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00:27.33ToAsTcfhdcordes thats right the EVO and the LEO use the new multitouch displays. herm i wonder if this is already in the htc source or not
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00:29.44ToAsTcfhdcordes : linux/synaptics_t1007.h in my source tree for the EVO on github. could help the guys on the LEO
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01:46.33rafyvittoyo phh hows the froyo liquid test going :P
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03:53.05qubitshey guys
03:54.08qubitsso what can your os do
03:54.13qubitscan it dial?
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04:44.02IncognitoManlolwat?
04:47.50qubitsIncognitoMan,
04:47.54qubitswhat can htc-linux
04:47.55qubitsdo
04:48.05qubitsyay my g1 thinks its a hero now
04:48.14qubitsit sure is taking a long time to boot the first time
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05:10.02IncognitoManerm....O_o?
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05:11.02IncognitoManhas a hard time figuring out how to answer that one considering #htc-linux isnt a "os" and more of a channel directed to htc devices that can run linux....
05:11.58CoYoTe-here they develop linux to make it run on htc
05:12.10IncognitoManyea
05:12.34CoYoTe-no android issues here.. only kernel and related
05:13.50IncognitoManim guessing the android issues are handled ( or already documented ) in their appropiate threads anyway
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05:40.28T-Junkmoin ppz
05:42.48T-Junkwhat can htc-linux do..
05:42.51T-Junkhmm
05:43.09T-Junkmaybe someone can draw ascii?
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06:43.48tmztT-Junk: hello
06:43.51tmztwhat are you asking?
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07:34.46T-Junk[06:48:04] <qubits> what can htc-linux
07:34.46T-Junk[06:48:04] <qubits> do
07:34.53T-Junksounded funny
07:36.17qubits:)
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08:40.18ZepiiiHi all
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10:14.52pitillohello good morning, can someone give a hint about how to make a debug on hw6915 (htc-sable) which freeze on haret boot screen (logs shows the go go go sentence, which jumps to the kernel), and sitted on the craddle and letting it some minutes I get no output in host's dmesg (to see if fb was broken and I could get serial/usb output)
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14:40.23kalemashi all. how could i find latest system.sqsh for htc diamond with android 2.1?
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15:58.51chamonixhey guys
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16:46.27phh[00:18:39] <aatreya> phh: any parameters we can change in the filesystem?  something with rootfs, maybe? <--- i'm not sure... just check where it is :p
16:46.42phhyou can mount --bind
16:46.45phhbut that's not really advised.
16:48.25AndyM3hey guys.
16:48.32AndyM3need a little help here...
16:49.20phhAndyM3: yup ?
16:49.29AndyM3I'm trying to run Myn's Warm Donut on my diam100, but it hangs and gives lots of errors about suspend...
16:49.45AndyM3thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=674358
16:50.04phhdoesn't myn have a diam100 ?
16:50.22phhI thought he wanted to port his donut to diam at some point
16:51.42AndyM3last relevant line is "init: cannot find '/setupmodem.sh'" if I recall correctly
16:52.10phhno it's not
16:52.14phhlogcata ?
16:53.17AndyM3sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
16:54.15AndyM3and then "request suspend state: wakeup(3->0) at 22960000000" or something like that
16:54.29phhstill not releavant
16:54.31phhsomething else ?
16:54.34AndyM3no
16:54.38phhthen logcat.
16:54.43AndyM3the last one repeats endlessly
16:54.58AndyM3...logcat?
16:55.09AndyM3(sorry, not a dev here)
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16:55.43phhgoogle (or xda search? ) adb  logcat then
16:56.46AndyM3oh, adb
16:57.04AndyM3do I need a Linux box for that?
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16:58.24phhno
16:58.33ToAsTcfhphh : progress?
16:58.39phhToAsTcfh: on what ?
16:58.45phhanyway no
16:58.46ToAsTcfhfroyo liquid
16:59.01ToAsTcfhthe markey?
16:59.08ToAsTcfhmarket
16:59.39phhwhat about the market ?
16:59.47phhah the market bug in AOSP ?
16:59.59phhyeah no clue. I just came back from school, and I left IRC before you so ...
17:00.19ToAsTcfhlol
17:00.27ToAsTcfhok
17:00.49ToAsTcfhthey have some app for aosp called market enabler
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17:01.21ToAsTcfhstupid htc and there hboots
17:01.44ToAsTcfhu cant flash a older hboot version its bullshit
17:02.33ToAsTcfhwell fuck
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17:04.04ToAsTcfhphh: why did u pick the hardest device in android? :P
17:04.13phhToAsTcfh: it was the cheapest one !
17:04.17ToAsTcfhlol
17:04.22ToAsTcfhok good call
17:04.24phhand I hadn't thought it was that hard -_-'
17:04.33ToAsTcfhoops
17:04.47ToAsTcfhi bet u fix it up
17:04.58ToAsTcfhbecome god to the liquid guys
17:05.12ToAsTcfhthey arent on xda?
17:05.22ToAsTcfhwhy modaco forums?
17:05.55ToAsTcfhis that where the liquid base is? :P
17:06.20ToAsTcfhi know they bought devices for two or three guys that never did shot for them
17:06.28ToAsTcfhshit
17:06.52ToAsTcfhi believe the guys gave up
17:06.55ToAsTcfh:-/
17:08.59DomZ~seen dcordes
17:09.24aptdcordes <~dccordes@unaffiliated/dcordes> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 5h 57m 53s ago, saying: 'hrw, I think the stuff that fails (so far udevd, dropbear.. ) doesn't even have neon optimization'.
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17:32.24tids2k@ phh , did you find the working touch driver for hd2 yet >
17:32.42tids2ksomeone posted the elan.i2c from supersonic is it any good ?
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17:33.04ToAsTcfhits synaptics i thought
17:33.22tids2kbut thats taken from nexus
17:33.31ToAsTcfhwait a second
17:33.38tids2kanyone tried the evo driver ?
17:33.40tids2kk
17:33.59phhtids2k: I don't work for hd2 :p
17:34.06phhbut yes supersonic's driver would be good
17:34.38ToAsTcfhsynaptics_t1007
17:34.48ToAsTcfhthats what supersonic ues
17:34.50phh(I think)
17:34.56phhToAsTcfh: you're sure ?
17:34.59ToAsTcfhcheck my source on github
17:35.01phhI was pretty sure it was an elan
17:35.02ToAsTcfhyeah
17:35.06tids2kelan yes ...
17:35.07ToAsTcfhits in the board
17:35.12tids2kwait have a look here
17:35.17tids2kupdating link
17:37.31ToAsTcfhphh: it in my board files
17:37.40ToAsTcfhsynaptics_t1007
17:38.18tids2khttp://rapidshare.com/files/391825373/touchscreen.zip.html
17:38.34tids2kthis has synaptics as well as elan .. and atmel as well ;)
17:38.44tids2kfrom evo
17:38.49phhatmel ? lol ?
17:39.02phhperhaps evo has sensitive keys ?
17:39.10ToAsTcfhi think so
17:39.32ToAsTcfhstatic struct kobj_attribute supersonic_virtual_keys_attr = {
17:39.33ToAsTcfh.attr = {
17:39.33ToAsTcfh.name = "virtualkeys.atmel-touchscreen",
17:39.33ToAsTcfh.mode = S_IRUGO,
17:39.42tids2ktouchwin.c --> this is interesting :D
17:39.50phhtids2k: anyway, even if it's not used for evo it's good for you :p
17:39.53tids2kseems like its twoway driver
17:40.00tids2khaha .. ya
17:40.12tids2kgood to brick the bread ;)
17:40.29ToAsTcfhalso htc has been known to mess up the synaptics drivers in the eclair kernels
17:40.39ToAsTcfhwere touch doesnt work in aosp
17:40.47ToAsTcfhonly in htc builds
17:40.52phhToAsTcfh: oh I'll have the problem on the liquid too.
17:40.59ToAsTcfhto improve htc_ime
17:41.09tids2kwell in that case it would be a good option to use the elan driver or modify it before testing it on hd2
17:41.18ToAsTcfhi reverted this by using the synaptics from the nexus
17:41.24tids2kor u meant update htc_imie ;)
17:41.46ToAsTcfhwel to make it better the file mentions
17:42.09ToAsTcfhto improve multitouch and rapid touching
17:42.13tids2k@phh can u please have a look at the link
17:42.22ToAsTcfhits got comments all in it
17:42.24phhtids2k: what do you want me to look at ?
17:42.39phhagain i'm no HD2 guy :p
17:42.40ToAsTcfhlook at my commits to the heroc .29 kernel on github
17:42.41tids2kthe elan8232.i2c.c ;) in it .
17:43.16ToAsTcfhim out bbl
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17:43.23tids2ki thought hd2 didnt had multi touch toast
17:43.25tids2ksee ya
17:44.17ToAsTcfhi think it does
17:44.36phhtids2k: perhaps no driver
17:44.39phhdoesn't mean it can't do it
17:44.41ToAsTcfhin the .27 kernel multitouch wont work in eclair
17:44.56phhToAsTcfh: do you know anything about this ".32 is needed for froyo" thing ?
17:45.07ToAsTcfhno i doubt it
17:45.23phhok, me too :p
17:45.24ToAsTcfhall the drivers in .32 are in .29
17:45.33ToAsTcfhas of now
17:45.40ToAsTcfhit could change i guess
17:45.41phhI don't know if I should move to .32 for the liquid or not
17:45.48ToAsTcfhdo it
17:46.01ToAsTcfhbetter io and sched
17:46.09phhit's a total pain to do :p
17:46.20ToAsTcfhi know im doing it for the heroc
17:46.31ToAsTcfhtry using cyanogens source
17:46.35ToAsTcfhon github
17:46.40tids2kbetter stick with .29 as the drivers still seem compatible
17:46.46ToAsTcfhyeah
17:46.48tids2kjust a thought
17:46.57ToAsTcfh.32 is good though
17:47.06ToAsTcfhdrivers are just .29
17:47.07tids2kyeh but not stable as of yet
17:47.08tids2k:P
17:47.10ToAsTcfhmerged
17:47.16tids2kwith .29 drivers :D
17:47.19ToAsTcfhyeah it is
17:47.24tids2kreally
17:47.32ToAsTcfhthey are working on .34 already
17:47.43ToAsTcfhcyanogen is merging now
17:47.53ToAsTcfhits just better kernel
17:48.00tids2kfor a december release ?
17:48.04ToAsTcfhbut the android drivers are the same
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17:48.18ToAsTcfhna they will do it in no time.
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17:48.28tids2khmnn ...
17:48.31ToAsTcfhthey got like 20 people on that project
17:48.40tids2kwow
17:48.51ToAsTcfhyeah cm-kernel is no joke
17:49.05ToAsTcfhif it can be done tweak wise they do it
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17:49.14ToAsTcfhlots of branches too
17:49.17tids2kok
17:49.23ToAsTcfhidk i g2g
17:49.29tids2ksee ya man !
17:51.10tids2kim outta here as well ... chao
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18:02.09[acl]wow all this froyo talk.. exciting
18:02.20phh[acl]: nothing for you, sorry :D
18:02.56[acl]phh: haha.. im fine beating my head on a wall with the rhod for now
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18:03.17phh[acl]: hehe, nothing new ?
18:03.19phhno new questions ?
18:05.24[acl]i tried the pmem changes. android comes up but the screen is blank. I can tell its up from logcat. So its back to wince snooping i suppose
18:05.48phhperhaps it's not pmem problem, but I've no clue now :/
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18:06.41[acl]ok brain storming time. What else could it be? or what else should i do on wince to get info out
18:07.28phhno clue, no clue, and no clue.
18:07.30[acl]which reminds me i tried the wince dmesg address from the topaz and i cant get anything. I get an exception error on haret
18:07.49phhuh ? you must have missed phys/virt addr ?
18:08.52[acl]phys 17200000 . Thats whats on the topaz mem map on the wiki
18:10.30[acl]i guess the only other thing i can think of is to make an app and load the qcom driver on android and see if i can begin debugging that.
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18:12.07phh[acl]: ourgh
18:12.17phhwell, why not.
18:12.23rafyvittoso phh whos working on the liquid froyo port you and who else? xian from modaco was looking for ya, seems hes working or trying to get it froyo working on the liquid also
18:12.42[acl]phh: i got good with those Ahi functions. if i can make crap pop up on wince how hard could it be on android?
18:13.10phh[acl]: yeah you're right ...
18:13.26phhrafyvitto: vache and malez, and xian are already on #acer-liquid
18:13.52rafyvittooh dint know about that channel
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18:35.01hfctsaotphh I was gonna mention u should prolly work to merge into a eclair .29 kernel to get latest drivers working then maybe move to .33
18:35.24phhhfctsaot: perhaps
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18:39.54hfctsaotDo u guys use qdsp_comp?
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18:40.42phhgood question.
18:40.44phhI'd say no.
18:40.48phhit should be qdsp6
18:40.59phhc'mon, I know almost nothing about this board -_-'
18:41.40hfctsaotBut yeah eclair .29 all drivers changed pretty much
18:42.25hfctsaotSensors I2c synaptics hw3d ect
18:43.03hfctsaotCupcake drivers worked in donut If that says anything
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18:44.54hfctsaotWell except hw3d and cam
18:45.42phhI'm too young for donut
18:45.46phhI've never seen it :p
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18:56.46hfctsaotWell welcome to android home of the kang
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19:02.50dassamshi
19:03.12dassamsis anyone here with a Htc Magic od Dream?
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19:22.42dassamsCould anyone help me g_ether and Xorg driver on shr /htc magic/dream  thanks
19:24.04phhwhat about it ?
19:24.11phh(and why not function ? sitll not working ?)
19:26.45dassamson boot it says: Could not open kernel/driver/usb/gadget/g_ether.ko
19:26.52dassamsbut the file is there
19:27.14phhwhat does dmesg say ?
19:27.16phhand relative path ?
19:28.47dassamsmy htc magic has no keyboard, so i cant run dmesg /or login
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19:31.01dassamsIf I g_ether integrate directly into the kernel (not as module) I get the same message
19:32.17dassamscould this be a problem of the SHR-Version from the Openmoko-Wiki (OpenMoko_on_HTC-Dream) ?
19:32.42phhpff I don't know much about openembedded itself :/
19:32.48phhask leviathan or GNUtoo
19:33.08Tigerzenyou can put dmesg in script init
19:33.16Tigerzendmesg &
19:33.19GNUtoohi
19:33.46GNUtoodassams, hi what's the issue
19:33.48klinuxhi
19:33.54dassamsTigerzen, thanks, good idea, i will give it a try
19:34.12klinuxphh: congrat on gettinng froyo work on liquid
19:34.46phhklinux: thanks
19:34.49dassamsGnutoo, i can get no ethernet-connection
19:35.05phhklinux: and no it doesn't work at all on my TP2.
19:35.07dassamsthe message is something like: Could not open kernel/driver/usb/gadget/g_ether.ko
19:35.18klinuxphh: :D
19:35.20GNUtoodassams, do you have gether in the kenrel
19:35.21GNUtoo?
19:35.24dassamsbut it's to fast to read
19:35.28phhklinux: but I've read there are roms for other msm7k devices
19:35.33phhI don't know how they did, but I could take their stuff
19:35.36klinuxphh: cause of kernel ver ?
19:35.37phh(I guess they used some libs from sdk)
19:35.42phhklinux: because of neon instruction set
19:36.13dassamsyes, whether as module od directly -the same message
19:36.42dassamsI use the version from the openmoko-wiki (http://gitorious.org/htc-msm-2-6-32/)
19:36.47klinuxphh: kernel related I suppose (still noob :) )
19:36.59phhklinux: not at all
19:37.15GNUtoodassams, you have an htcdream right?
19:37.25phhklinux: neon is an instruction set that doesn't require any permission, so it runs as is from userland
19:37.28phhwell it tries to for us.
19:37.29GNUtoodassams, http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Dream has status and new address
19:37.39dassamsGNUtoo, htc magic, so no keyboard
19:38.32klinuxphh: how did it work on liquid then ?
19:38.45phhklinux: liquid do have this instruction set
19:38.48klinuxbtw where is the release posted
19:38.55klinuxI mean the liquid one
19:38.56phhliquid has the exact same SoC as N1
19:38.59phhklinux: nowhere
19:39.02phhthere is nothing releasable
19:39.03dassamsGNUtoo, that's the kernel I use
19:39.05phhit just boots
19:39.06phhthat's all
19:39.12klinuxphh: qsd CPU
19:39.20phhklinux: yup
19:39.55GNUtoodassams, ah ok magic
19:40.09GNUtoodassams, what's the differences between dream and magic apart the keyboard?
19:40.18rafyvittoits sad that acer devices are so unknown to most people on the scene
19:40.23rafyvittosad panda =[
19:40.31phhGNUtoo: memory ?
19:40.36GNUtoook
19:40.43GNUtooso the usb gadget is the same?
19:40.56dassamsGNUtoo, they have different motherboards (sapphire)
19:41.11phhGNUtoo: yup
19:41.21GNUtooah ok
19:41.41klinuxphh: which libs handles this neon set ? or it's dalvikvm related ?
19:41.52phhklinux: I don't know
19:41.58GNUtoodassams, so is usb gadget in the kernel,if so which options related to it did you choose,more precisely:
19:42.04phhI guess you have to try every libs until it works ? :p
19:42.25klinuxphh: easy to say very hard to do :D
19:42.29GNUtoo*did you choose msm7k driver
19:43.10GNUtooMSM 72K Device Controller (USB_GADGET_MSM_72K)
19:43.10GNUtooand also:
19:43.17GNUtooEthernet Gadget (with CDC Ethernet support) (USB_ETH) with RNDIS
19:43.19[acl]klinux: this is why we need to get more devs involved. Just brute force our way through .. lol
19:43.40GNUtoothen ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 on your workstation
19:43.47GNUtooand ssh root@192.168.0.202
19:43.50klinuxphh: I already tried to mix many bin/libs from the froyo releases on msm devices no luck !
19:43.57dassamsmy config is based on the defconfig from the OM-Wiki:   http://pastebin.com/Nzp2GGSu
19:44.08phhklinux: yeah just wait for some roms for the dream
19:44.08klinux[ACL]: hi btw
19:45.01[acl]klinux: hey man. no luck on the 3d... im about to jump off my window. i cant let it beat me
19:45.22dassamsGNUtoo, no luck, "Ignoring unknown interface 192.168.0.200=192.168.0.200."
19:46.00klinux[acl]: let it for an other time and join me on froyo side :P
19:46.22GNUtoommm
19:46.32GNUtoodassams, what program says that?
19:47.22[acl]klinux: i want to .. but im afraid phh will make fun of me for giving up .. lol :-p
19:47.38phh[acl]: uh? why would I ?
19:47.47klinux[acl]: btw at last I figured out that using system.ext2 allow me to mod things without rebooting system ! :D
19:47.55phhklinux: err.
19:48.05dassamsGNUtoo, sorry, the message is from ifconig:SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
19:48.08phhI hadn't explained that you months before ?
19:48.18GNUtoodassams, cat /proc/net/dev ?
19:48.26GNUtooon your workstation
19:49.14klinuxwell reboot to ubuntu to play again, see u in some mins
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19:49.24dassamshttp://pastebin.com/UTibgnwy
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19:50.51dassamsGNUtoo, That should be no problem with my computer. I have already tried Meego, where it has operated with the same kernel (january 2010)
19:51.20[acl]phh: lol.. i was kidding. its just that i poured so much time into it and harassed you with all the questions. I want something to come out of it.
19:51.36GNUtoodassams, cat /proc/net/dev was for seeing which device it appeard as
19:51.51GNUtoodassams, also look at your kernel configurations options
19:51.58GNUtoodassams, the ones that I posted
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19:55.46dassamsGNUtoo, I have just seen that has crept in at the last trial a error, I am now building a new kernel
19:56.02GNUtoook
19:56.37k_linuxI'm back :)
19:56.44[acl]http://www.amazon.com/Minute-Manager-Ph-D-Kenneth-Blanchard/dp/0425098478
19:56.47[acl]oops
19:56.50[acl]wrong window
19:59.21hfctsaotAnyone here got ideas for getting around nand protection?
20:03.39k_linux[acl]: froyo's vold doesn't mount the sdcard so I use sense one,  other than that I'm stuck here http://pastebin.com/QjAxQFAm
20:04.14k_linux[acl]: android_runtime doesn't run
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20:04.40[acl]phh: damnit i just realized that the qcom driver for android only has the gl fuctions. the ahi2dati on wince needs a wrapper.
20:06.03[acl]k_linux: it just stop there ? no real crash log?
20:08.15k_linux[acl]: I got more weird with heroc dbus-daemon take a look http://pastebin.com/4ScXKz7u
20:10.03[acl]k_linux: This is from which port again? the hero one?
20:10.05k_linux[acl]: the log remind me when I try to use bin/lib from qsd device
20:10.26k_linux[acl]: yeah
20:10.29[acl]k_linux: yes it looks familiar to when we ran the desire framework
20:10.54[acl]k_linux: do you know what kernel they were using ?
20:11.16k_linux[acl]: no I will take a look
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20:16.12[acl]k_linux: yeah im sure they are using a diff kernel. I'll take a break from 3d and see if i can download it tonight.
20:16.34k_linux[acl]: it seems so
20:16.41dassamsGNUtoo, do you have a working. config file? maybe I just made too many misstakes ...
20:17.32GNUtoodassams, ok
20:17.39GNUtooI've one but for the dream
20:18.30dassamsno problem, should be only one parameter
20:19.14GNUtoodarkstar62, http://pastebin.com/sBEqH8jE
20:19.17k_linux[acl]: it seems 2.6.29
20:20.39[acl]ahh i wonder if some drivers changed.
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20:21.57GNUtoophone ringing...
20:22.11dassamsthank you. my version compiles atm, then I'll try yours
20:23.11GNUtooback
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20:40.24fineztso this driver ain't compatible with the leo? elan8232_i2c
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20:53.16hfctsaotphh I forgot winmo doesn't support multitouch. So maybe the hd2 doesn't
20:54.16hfctsaotWell winmo doesn't support it yet I guess
20:54.34hfctsaotI guess
20:55.59hfctsaotBut synaptics supports both non and multitouch in the same driver so I guess the may still use the touch driver from the evo
20:56.00MacDrunkhey which is the best htc phone
20:56.10hfctsaotLol
20:56.19MacDrunkwhat
20:56.31hfctsaotNothing
20:56.57LeTamahfctsaot: hd2 does multitouch in winmo with htc extension
20:57.04ZepiiiWithout keyboard. WinMo -> HD2 | Android -> Desire in europe / EVO 4G USA. BUT it's linux kernel channel
20:58.53hfctsaotAh tru well I wonder if its the new display or the old
20:59.45hfctsaotLike if its the new mtouch chip like the evo
21:00.26hfctsaotAnd incredible
21:00.42LeTamano clue on that, probably an older one
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21:07.42hfctsaotCaptnoord nand protection... ideas?
21:08.09phhhfctsaot: perhaps ask cmonex or olipro ?
21:08.52hfctsaotXda
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21:17.52Captnoordre
21:17.54Captnoord[23:07] <hfctsaot> Captnoord nand protection... ideas?
21:17.58Captnoordwhat do you mean?
21:18.02Captnoordnand is protected?
21:18.11phhCaptnoord: on htc evo
21:18.15Captnoordhmmm k
21:18.19phhwell for us too
21:18.24phhyou can't read modem nand
21:18.30phhwell yes you can, but no :p
21:19.04Captnoordhmmm......
21:19.18Captnoordmaybe its something simple done by the bootloader
21:19.48ToAsTcfhit is i believe
21:20.03CaptnoordI want to believe
21:20.08ToAsTcfhi think hboot or the spl locks things down somehow
21:20.22ToAsTcfhspl=hboot on android
21:20.22Captnoordor unlocks it
21:20.32ToAsTcfhyeah
21:20.53ToAsTcfhitll write to it if u have the correct keys with no problem
21:21.00ToAsTcfhhtc keys that is
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21:55.52ToAsTcfhholly shit
21:55.54ToAsTcfhlol
21:56.11ToAsTcfhi get 3.5 on my best day with the heroc
21:56.12phhToAsTcfh: JIT + 1GHz.
21:56.22phh(froyo on liquid)
21:56.41ToAsTcfhdid u get any hardware working yet?
21:57.34phhToAsTcfh: touchscreen ? :D
21:57.52ToAsTcfheasy peasy huh
21:58.01phhdisplay ? :p
21:58.16ToAsTcfhna sensors
21:58.20ToAsTcfh:P
21:58.26ToAsTcfhlights
21:58.29ToAsTcfh:P
21:58.46phhdon't know
21:59.04ToAsTcfhu can prolly use stuff from the nexus im sure
21:59.34ToAsTcfhor the hero if ur hardware is older
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21:59.43Paul_Isheninhi
21:59.46ToAsTcfhone of the two
22:00.04Paul_Isheninphh, nice to see that you bought the same phone as me
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22:00.29phhPaul_Ishenin: you shouldn't have gave my reputation on modaco ! :p
22:00.34phhit would have been funnier
22:00.42phhToAsTcfh: no
22:00.48phhToAsTcfh: oh well sensors perhaps it's a  goold old bma150
22:00.54phhhum no different kernel driver
22:00.57phhand leds well...
22:01.03Paul_IsheninI don't like when ppl warry too much
22:01.05phhnexus has a "mail", "call" and "battery" led ? :p
22:01.10Paul_Isheninsome can accidentaly die
22:01.35ToAsTcfhherm i never looked at the liquid
22:01.51ToAsTcfhdoes it look like any other phone
22:01.58phhToAsTcfh: no.
22:02.03ToAsTcfhlike hardware buttons and shit
22:02.05phhit's ugly as hell.
22:02.09ToAsTcfhlol
22:02.14phhmy phones are uglier at every new generation -_-'
22:02.21phhdiamond was quite nice
22:02.22ToAsTcfhlol
22:02.28phhTP2 was a brick
22:02.33phhliquid is well
22:02.37phhI can't qualify it
22:02.43ToAsTcfhkeyboard?
22:02.51phhno
22:02.54ToAsTcfhwvga
22:02.58phhyup
22:03.02ToAsTcfh\o/
22:03.04Paul_Ishenindid you sold your diamond, btw?
22:03.14phhToAsTcfh: it's a nexus one, with no amoled screen, and less memory
22:03.17phhfor half of the price
22:03.18phhPaul_Ishenin: no
22:03.23ToAsTcfh:-/
22:03.37Paul_IsheninI sold mide. who need a winmobile device today
22:03.41phhToAsTcfh: and awesome dev(s)! :D
22:03.50ToAsTcfhlol
22:03.50tmztwhat device is?
22:03.51phhPaul_Ishenin: my sister i'd like one
22:03.57phhtmzt: acer liquid ?
22:04.03ToAsTcfhphh those guys are really lucky
22:04.04tmztsnapdragon?
22:04.25Paul_Isheninthose guys already have 2.1
22:04.37phhPaul_Ishenin: and they'll get 2.2 soon =)
22:04.50Paul_Isheninon an old kernel?
22:04.54ToAsTcfhthe cdma side of thing not so much. no one relly gets dirty. im as dirty as it gets and i suck
22:04.58phhPaul_Ishenin: sure
22:05.17phhToAsTcfh: tell that to makkonen or bzo :p
22:05.22phhthey'll agree
22:05.39phhPaul_Ishenin: hey, we've got eclair on .27 for xdandroid
22:05.41phhso what ?
22:05.42ToAsTcfhwell they need to come to android then
22:06.00ToAsTcfhi had it on .27 for the heroc
22:06.02ToAsTcfh:P
22:06.15ToAsTcfhwell all but camera :(
22:06.23Paul_Isheninphh, as you remember I tried to make that camera to work.
22:06.30phhPaul_Ishenin: yup
22:06.34Paul_Isheninbut failed and sold that diamond
22:06.40phhok
22:06.42ToAsTcfhstupid camera
22:06.44Paul_Isheninnow I need to sell the battery
22:06.53phhPaul_Ishenin: oO
22:06.58phhyou didn't sell it with the battery ?
22:07.01Paul_Isheninextended battery
22:07.03ToAsTcfhlol
22:07.21Paul_Isheninnobody want to buy it :)
22:07.23ToAsTcfhthe hero battery fits in the EVO woot
22:07.42phhPaul_Ishenin: that's why I'd have sell it with the phone -_-'
22:07.59makkonenphh: Are you saying I'll say I suck? cuz I will.
22:08.26ToAsTcfhme too
22:08.27phhmakkonen: more that you'd like more skilled devs on your side
22:09.00makkonendesperately.
22:09.14ToAsTcfhwe need more good android devs on the adroid cdma side
22:09.36phhgive me free cdma cellphones and cells
22:09.36ToAsTcfhmakkonen what device?
22:09.41phhand i'll work for you.
22:09.44ToAsTcfhlol
22:09.47makkonenthough the only thing keeping me from running android pretty much all the time on my CDMA TP2 is sound... and that's not a cdma issue.
22:10.06ToAsTcfhEVO
22:10.11ToAsTcfhcome to us
22:10.14ToAsTcfhplease
22:10.16ToAsTcfh:P
22:10.19ToAsTcfhlol
22:10.38ToAsTcfhmaejrep got a EVO from google i/o \o/
22:10.42makkonennot paying 2x my monthly bill for it.
22:10.43makkonennice.
22:10.52phhToAsTcfh: I need to get to google I/O one day :p
22:10.57ToAsTcfhme too
22:11.09ToAsTcfhhe got a friggin EVO and a droid
22:11.13phhdroid ?
22:11.14ToAsTcfhfor free
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22:11.20ToAsTcfhmoto :(
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22:11.22phhi thought they'd get N1
22:11.28mbg19hello
22:11.28ToAsTcfhme too
22:11.34phhToAsTcfh: I just don't know how to go to google I/O :p
22:11.47ToAsTcfh$500
22:11.50ToAsTcfh:-/
22:11.52phhhaha.
22:11.52phhright
22:12.06ToAsTcfhthey got their moneys worth i guess
22:12.10mc44didn't they get an N1 beforehand and then an EVO too :o
22:12.14ToAsTcfhsome sold the evos on ebay
22:12.27phhToAsTcfh: well it depends on where you live
22:12.28ToAsTcfhna a mto droid
22:12.35ToAsTcfhyeah tru
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22:12.54phhI'm at quite at the opposite side of the eartth
22:12.56phhso ... :p
22:13.00ToAsTcfhlol
22:13.01phhtime to sleep.
22:13.04ToAsTcfhnite
22:13.20mbg19could anyone help me, im trying to boot up balsat build from an EXT2 partition from my sd card
22:15.24mbg19im sorry if it looks like im just here to beg for help
22:21.07mbg19or.. does anyone know a forum where i can find information on this because on xda theres just a bunch of noobs asking stupid questions
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22:24.18CoYoTe-mbg19, this channel is for kernel issues no android issues
22:24.41mbg19well im not even booting into android, isnt that kernel issue?
22:24.57CoYoTe-in xda dev there is a tutorial of installing android in a ext2 partition
22:26.11CoYoTe-sorry here all we are a bunch of noobs developing kernel only =)
22:26.47mbg19lol noobs??
22:27.13mbg19developing a kernel is such a noob thing =P
22:28.38mickeylit would not be so hard if it wasn't about reverse engineering closed systems
22:29.25CoYoTe-mickeyl, easy is boring
22:29.42mickeylhmm
22:29.52mickeyldepends on the goals
22:29.55mbg19yeah i have always keep thinking how you develop something when you have nothing to start with
22:30.19ToAsTcfhmickeyl hows progress
22:30.44mickeylToAsTcfh: nothing from my side, completely busy with non-foss work this month :/
22:31.04ToAsTcfhtrue
22:31.07mickeylgnutoo's X doesn't resume
22:31.12mickeylno idea why
22:31.19ToAsTcfh:-/
22:31.22mickeyli'm using pure framebuffer where everything resumes fine
22:31.27ToAsTcfh32a?
22:31.45ToAsTcfhna dream
22:31.47ToAsTcfhnm
22:31.49mickeyldream, yep
22:32.13ToAsTcfhi found eclair board files for the 32a/b
22:32.25ToAsTcfhfrom htc
22:32.40mbg19haha well thanks for the clarification guys ill continue my hunt for information!
22:33.01ToAsTcfhthey were unfinished but with a little tweaking it booted
22:33.43mickeylhmm, btw. how does the desire compare to the nexus one accessibility wise?
22:33.59mickeyllike... can you fastboot your own stuff there as well or is it more closed?
22:34.34ToAsTcfhits sux at the moment
22:34.45mickeylreally? why?
22:34.52ToAsTcfhthey had issues with root the nand is protected
22:35.07mickeylugh
22:35.09mickeylfun
22:35.10ToAsTcfhits root but risky from what i hear flashing roms
22:35.23ToAsTcfhim facing the same thing on the EVO
22:35.39ToAsTcfhwe have system root but no recovery write
22:36.09ToAsTcfhu know anything about nand security ? :P
22:37.17ToAsTcfhit sux but yeah there forum has a halt on flashing till they figure out the random bricking
22:37.46ToAsTcfhlike some will just brick after the first flash
22:37.56mickeylok i see
22:37.59ToAsTcfhi think they have a eng sl and all
22:38.03ToAsTcfhspl
22:38.17mickeyli have someone who wants a fully free stack on either nexus or desire and it looks like i should recommend the nexus
22:38.18ToAsTcfhbut htc is fucking us all hard
22:38.32ToAsTcfhnexus for sure
22:38.38mickeylok, will pass that, thanks
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22:38.56mickeylit will still be enough work to remove the androidisms, but we can't afford wasting time to get access
22:39.08ToAsTcfhyeah
22:39.35ToAsTcfhwell i know on the nexus they already run debian natively a
22:39.40ToAsTcfhwell
22:40.01ToAsTcfhnot inside android but straight up boot into debian
22:40.15mickeylyep, sounds good
22:40.18ToAsTcfhdo it via fastboot
22:40.28ToAsTcfhthere is a thread on xda
22:40.29mickeyland one of my french colleagues already did a phonecall with FSO2
22:40.41mickeylso i guess a lot already works
22:40.43mickeylout-of-the-box
22:40.48ToAsTcfhsweet
22:41.37mickeylok, bed time
22:41.40mickeylg'night folks
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23:04.48tmztToAsTcfh: why no recovery write?
23:05.04tmztyou can boot a kernel though?
23:05.08ToAsTcfhnope
23:05.21ToAsTcfhcant write anything
23:05.27ToAsTcfhnand protected
23:05.33ToAsTcfhwhere is cmonex
23:05.44ToAsTcfhi heard she can help
23:05.47ToAsTcfhmaybe
23:06.09ToAsTcfhshes on irc somewhere i know
23:08.49tmztwe haven't seen her much
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23:09.17tmzthow did they get root?
23:09.24ToAsTcfhsome exploit
23:09.29ToAsTcfhapp i think
23:09.39ToAsTcfhbut its only for the seasion
23:09.53ToAsTcfhit has to be applied every reboot
23:09.55tmztmtd devices aren't exposed or just are read only?
23:10.07ToAsTcfhread only
23:10.45tmztI wonder if the old tricks from g1 would help
23:10.54ToAsTcfhlike what
23:10.58ToAsTcfhgoldcard no
23:11.02ToAsTcfhbut
23:11.07ToAsTcfhyeah no
23:11.10ToAsTcfh:-/
23:11.16tmztnot goldcard
23:11.28tmztthere was an addressing thing with mtd
23:11.37tmztI think that was required to dump the rom when we started
23:11.54ToAsTcfhherm
23:12.15ToAsTcfhlike exsplain and ll try
23:12.27tmztyou'll have to find the logs
23:12.31tmztI don't even remember
23:12.34ToAsTcfhuhg
23:12.45ToAsTcfhlogs for here
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23:15.00tmztyeah, but if you can get me some date ranges I can pull #xda-devs too
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23:24.17XzZyHello
23:24.43DalinuxmanXzZy: hi :D
23:25.44hfctsaotTmzt ok man I'm looking
23:26.55DalinuxmanBtw question...
23:27.22Dalinuxmanwhat is up with the HD2 does it run linux gui or only the terminal ?
23:27.40tmztwas the timer problem solved?
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23:29.19Dalinuxmangoodnight peeps, dont work to hard
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