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| 00:52.26 | randomblame | hey hey hey |
| 00:57.23 | AstainHellbring | hi randomblame |
| 00:58.04 | randomblame | hey astain |
| 00:58.08 | randomblame | what's new |
| 01:00.10 | AstainHellbring | not much |
| 01:00.14 | AstainHellbring | hoping to get an evo soon |
| 01:00.50 | randomblame | 4g |
| 01:00.54 | randomblame | shiny |
| 01:01.01 | AstainHellbring | aye |
| 01:01.41 | AstainHellbring | randomblame you gonna get one? |
| 01:01.52 | randomblame | naw I'd have to change carriers |
| 01:02.01 | AstainHellbring | vzw? |
| 01:02.17 | randomblame | I'm going through at&t |
| 01:02.22 | randomblame | sprint is simless |
| 01:02.32 | AstainHellbring | ahh ic |
| 01:02.35 | AstainHellbring | get n1 then |
| 01:02.39 | randomblame | and at&t doesn't have the infrastructure for the 4g anyhow |
| 01:02.42 | AstainHellbring | or what do you have now? |
| 01:02.49 | randomblame | I've got my shiny new rhod |
| 01:02.53 | randomblame | but it's irritating me |
| 01:03.13 | randomblame | buggy roms and lack of sound in linux |
| 01:03.18 | AstainHellbring | lol |
| 01:03.21 | AstainHellbring | sell it get n1 |
| 01:03.36 | randomblame | n1 is too much |
| 01:03.45 | AstainHellbring | randomblame no desire is |
| 01:04.20 | randomblame | I like winmo phones better, more room to play |
| 01:04.43 | randomblame | then I can run winmo and whatever else |
| 01:05.09 | AstainHellbring | I have an hd2 and haven't put my sim back in it since I got desire |
| 01:05.12 | AstainHellbring | desire is soo fast |
| 01:05.24 | randomblame | desire is beautiful |
| 01:05.32 | randomblame | do you like sense? |
| 01:05.53 | randomblame | I've been wondering why we haven't gotten that hacked and redistributed yet |
| 01:05.55 | AstainHellbring | LOVE it |
| 01:07.03 | randomblame | I got a new incite from at&t warranty and I got the rhodium new for 200 on ebay |
| 01:07.08 | AstainHellbring | eww incite |
| 01:07.10 | randomblame | now I must sell them |
| 01:07.34 | randomblame | yes incite has pissed me off |
| 01:07.51 | randomblame | and those assholes in the incite community keep bugging me to finish the kernel |
| 01:08.00 | AstainHellbring | lol |
| 01:08.02 | randomblame | I told them no they won't help and I don't care |
| 01:08.23 | randomblame | because there is no way in hell I will ever use an incite over the rhod |
| 01:09.39 | AstainHellbring | lol |
| 01:09.43 | randomblame | I love rhodiums form factor though, the keyboard, screen, everything is great. It needs more ram, higher resolution screen (though this is ridiculously better than incite) and it needs a modern soc |
| 01:12.26 | randomblame | when my upgrade comes I'll get desire, since at&t is so slow to get new phones I'm sure it will be the best available still. |
| 01:12.54 | AstainHellbring | lol |
| 01:13.01 | AstainHellbring | att doesnt offer desire yet |
| 01:13.10 | randomblame | I know |
| 01:13.19 | randomblame | but they will this summer |
| 01:13.35 | randomblame | I think my upgrade will be in november |
| 01:13.47 | randomblame | so that will probably be it |
| 01:16.01 | AstainHellbring | nice |
| 01:16.41 | randomblame | for now I'll be "suffering" with the rhod :D |
| 01:17.20 | randomblame | going from incite to rhodium was like upgrading from an apple II to a new core I7 rig |
| 01:17.26 | AstainHellbring | lol |
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| 02:56.49 | mike150 | anyone workin on the HD2? lol |
| 03:12.47 | randomblame | hd2 is still misbehaving as far as I know |
| 03:14.24 | mike150 | how so |
| 03:14.37 | randomblame | segmentation faults |
| 03:21.20 | mike150 | ugh i thought that got fixed |
| 03:21.32 | randomblame | I'm not sure that was the last I'd heard |
| 03:21.46 | randomblame | I don't have one so I don't really keep up to date on it |
| 03:21.56 | mike150 | ah its cool |
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| 06:52.49 | tucemiux | anyone saw the froyo developments ?? |
| 06:53.38 | tucemiux | i guess no one from europe logs in to the channel and most of the guys in the US are sleeping |
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| 09:40.59 | Captnoord | bleh my ril changes didn't caused any big changes on the battery life.... |
| 09:41.00 | Captnoord | bleh |
| 09:41.03 | Captnoord | like phh expected |
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| 11:12.29 | Razzee | to bad |
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| 11:19.54 | Captnoord | maybe is the improvement to little |
| 11:24.07 | Razzee | its really fun to programm apps for android, i'm getting sucked into it far to often |
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| 11:52.27 | Razzee | is the reason for the the keyboard force close we get at start known? |
| 11:56.10 | Captnoord | ? |
| 11:56.31 | Razzee | i'm getting a force close for the keyboard process at every boot |
| 11:56.44 | Captnoord | the keyboard driver of android? |
| 11:56.46 | Captnoord | I dono |
| 11:56.50 | Razzee | since the first build i used if i remember right |
| 11:57.18 | Captnoord | what phone? |
| 11:58.26 | Razzee | diam300 |
| 11:59.31 | Captnoord | hmmmm |
| 11:59.35 | Captnoord | t-mobile? |
| 11:59.58 | Captnoord | hmmm I dono |
| 12:00.04 | Captnoord | shouldn't be anything important |
| 12:00.10 | Captnoord | if it doesn't bother you |
| 12:02.51 | Razzee | o2 |
| 12:03.06 | Captnoord | k |
| 12:03.07 | Razzee | yeah, just curious |
| 12:03.21 | Captnoord | I think its a android thingy |
| 12:03.30 | Captnoord | not really related to the linux implementation |
| 12:03.46 | Razzee | yeah, probably |
| 12:03.55 | Razzee | for sure |
| 12:07.23 | tief | i get it too |
| 12:07.32 | Razzee | german? |
| 12:07.35 | tief | i dont think its everytime though |
| 12:07.38 | tief | no |
| 12:07.50 | Razzee | device? |
| 12:08.02 | tief | someone mentioned before it may be related to slow io making android think its unresponsive |
| 12:08.06 | tief | diam100 |
| 12:08.57 | Captnoord | possible |
| 12:09.39 | Captnoord | phh: http://ertos.nicta.com.au/research/power/ |
| 12:09.46 | tief | i *think* it pops up occasionally when system is loaded |
| 12:09.52 | tief | i dont relaly pay much attention to it |
| 12:09.55 | Captnoord | a version of this manages the current htc line power management |
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| 14:24.21 | Captnoord | http://www.htc-linux.org |
| 14:24.27 | Captnoord | bandwidth? |
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| 14:38.08 | dcordes | NetRipper, ping |
| 14:38.21 | AstainHellbring | hey dcordes how goes it |
| 14:38.40 | dcordes | not too bad. u? |
| 14:38.49 | AstainHellbring | doing well |
| 14:38.56 | dcordes | nice |
| 14:38.58 | AstainHellbring | excited for a few changes in froyo |
| 14:39.07 | dcordes | what do they do? |
| 14:39.17 | AstainHellbring | big one for me is better exchange support |
| 14:39.29 | dcordes | is that the name for the sync function in android? |
| 14:39.38 | AstainHellbring | no froyo is 2.2 |
| 14:40.00 | dcordes | I mean exchange |
| 14:42.44 | NetRipper | dcordes, |
| 14:42.46 | NetRipper | pong |
| 14:42.59 | AstainHellbring | microsoft exchange |
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| 14:43.44 | Captnoord | yea..... nexus pro |
| 14:43.44 | Captnoord | :P |
| 14:44.29 | Captnoord | hmmm navi code seems to have a crc field |
| 14:44.30 | Captnoord | lol |
| 14:55.12 | NetRipper | lol dcordes what's your bandwidth limit? |
| 14:55.13 | NetRipper | :) |
| 14:55.36 | dcordes | NetRipper, want to setup oe? |
| 14:55.40 | dcordes | NetRipper, 1GB |
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| 15:12.20 | NetRipper | dcordes, im at work still |
| 15:12.28 | NetRipper | dcordes, do you have all requirements of oe now? |
| 15:13.58 | dcordes | NetRipper, no. and we need to install them interactively |
| 15:14.17 | dcordes | NetRipper, cause packages containing stuff needed vary along distros |
| 15:25.39 | dcordes | NetRipper, but it's not urgent. I setup oe locally again |
| 15:26.00 | NetRipper | you can set it up on there |
| 15:26.02 | NetRipper | i installed git |
| 15:26.09 | NetRipper | i sent you a mail about that |
| 15:27.16 | dcordes | NetRipper, I'm still working on fixing the udev thing |
| 15:28.18 | NetRipper | thats probably unrelated to the basic stup of oe |
| 15:28.20 | NetRipper | setup* |
| 15:28.32 | dcordes | what do you mean? |
| 15:28.56 | dcordes | it's problem armv7 vs udev I think |
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| 15:39.34 | dcordes | NetRipper, also need to do some work. maybe we can install oe later so you can also do some builds |
| 15:39.41 | dcordes | bbl |
| 15:40.08 | NetRipper | oki |
| 15:40.22 | AstainHellbring | hey there NetRipper how goes it |
| 15:40.30 | NetRipper | im alright |
| 15:48.36 | NetRipper | :) |
| 15:48.46 | NetRipper | gtg drive home :) |
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| 17:26.54 | DomZ_work | Hi guys, sorry to ask (surely a stupid question) but how oe can help us to port android on HD2 ? |
| 17:30.31 | phh | fix the bugs ? |
| 17:37.39 | AstainHellbring | DomZ_work ssh access to test hardware |
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| 18:20.38 | spetrillo | phh: any luck in adding machid 2514 back into the kernel? |
| 18:21.10 | phh | hum well. |
| 18:21.13 | phh | the machid is here. |
| 18:21.17 | phh | just no board file atm. |
| 18:23.15 | spetrillo | Ahhh ok...I think you were going to make it a copy of the Topaz board? |
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| 18:23.48 | spetrillo | BTW Google I/O was very informative. |
| 18:24.03 | phh | was it ? |
| 18:25.20 | spetrillo | Yes...very much enjoyed it. First time I took a dive into the deep end of the Android pool so to speak. I am trying to get up to speed quickly. |
| 18:25.58 | spetrillo | Thus why I would love to see Whitestone be able to run Android. I think its a terrific device. |
| 18:27.28 | chamonix | hey guys |
| 18:28.46 | spetrillo | phh: been following the git commits...so hopefully will have a kernel to test with. |
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| 18:35.02 | chamonix | phh: I have a reasonable baseline with SIM but no apps doing anything in bg: 19 hours |
| 18:35.16 | chamonix | 3G is on of course |
| 18:37.32 | chamonix | means SIM being active and so ril costs 6 hours = 25% |
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| 18:42.02 | chamonix | now what dimension should I follow first? RIL, kernel or userland/apps |
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| 18:42.50 | chamonix | (I need a better tool to document the tests) |
| 18:51.44 | chamonix | and I like talking to myself too |
| 18:52.05 | Wout | hehe |
| 18:52.10 | chamonix | hey Wout |
| 18:52.12 | chamonix | :P |
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| 19:05.57 | DomZ | ok thanks AstainHellbring |
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| 19:11.10 | Captnoord | chamonix: with the latest rootfs |
| 19:11.14 | Captnoord | with my power changes |
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| 19:20.59 | Tigerzen | Ouhaaa !!! |
| 19:25.31 | chamonix | hey Captnoord |
| 19:25.34 | chamonix | ok, will do |
| 19:26.13 | chamonix | should I just replace the ril lib or the whole rootfs? |
| 19:26.54 | Captnoord | the whole rootfs |
| 19:26.56 | Captnoord | I dono |
| 19:27.02 | Captnoord | its just a small change |
| 19:27.10 | Captnoord | and I don't know if it actual does something |
| 19:27.20 | Captnoord | but you can see that |
| 19:27.31 | Captnoord | as you have actual test results to compare |
| 19:28.00 | chamonix | ok, I'll replace just the lib then to be sure as mine is quite old and the test may get distorted by other stuff |
| 19:28.19 | Captnoord | yea |
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| 19:59.16 | k_linux | Hey guys |
| 19:59.34 | k_linux | anyone got an evo on google IO ? :) |
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| 20:02.33 | mike150 | whos workin on the HD2 in here? hit me up lol, lets get started on porting android if anyone hasnt already.. |
| 20:07.56 | PSPdemon | ahh the youth |
| 20:08.15 | phh | PSPdemon: yeah. |
| 20:17.47 | chamonix | all set, battery's loading |
| 20:19.35 | stinebd | k_linux: i was watching it on youtube but i still have yet to receive mine ;) |
| 20:21.12 | k_linux | stinebd: but vic said already sorry for u guys who r watching on youtube ! :P |
| 20:21.28 | stinebd | i said watching, not listening :D |
| 20:22.02 | k_linux | ah ok :D, btw did u begin to play with sdk 8 ? |
| 20:22.20 | stinebd | nope, i don't really touch the SDKs at all |
| 20:22.30 | stinebd | i will definitely play with aosp 2.2 when it's pushed |
| 20:23.00 | k_linux | I hope it will be soon |
| 20:23.06 | stinebd | from what i heard, though, the sdk pretty much only features the new launcher and frameworks changes |
| 20:23.13 | phh | k_linux: can you try it to see if JIT works ?* |
| 20:23.16 | phh | and perhaps V8 |
| 20:23.26 | phh | stinebd: meh. |
| 20:23.26 | k_linux | it's very promising ! |
| 20:23.27 | k_linux | especially with JIT |
| 20:23.50 | k_linux | I'm running it on emulator right now |
| 20:24.05 | k_linux | I even try to run it hd but no luck |
| 20:24.10 | stinebd | current aosp doesn't build for me, so i can't release a JIT system image |
| 20:24.46 | k_linux | don't know why sdcard is not detected when system boots |
| 20:26.20 | phh | stinebd: pfff |
| 20:26.26 | phh | when will they stop breaking everything ? |
| 20:26.34 | k_linux | it's a pain to have 10" laptop and I choosed wvga ... |
| 20:27.13 | phh | WVGA 10" laptop ? |
| 20:28.11 | k_linux | no I choosed to emulate wvga android on my 10" laptop |
| 20:28.37 | k_linux | so I rotated left to see the whole android screen :P |
| 20:29.51 | phh | ok |
| 20:30.59 | phh | k_linux: I need to port desire rom on my acer liquid I think. |
| 20:31.20 | chamonix | phh: u got an acer? |
| 20:31.28 | phh | chamonix: yes |
| 20:31.31 | chamonix | cool |
| 20:31.36 | k_linux | phh: u changed your device ? :) |
| 20:31.41 | phh | k_linux: no |
| 20:31.43 | phh | I got a new one |
| 20:31.51 | phh | my phone is still my TP2 |
| 20:32.19 | phh | but a snapdragon phone needs flash :p |
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| 20:32.55 | chamonix | don't u have central heating? :P |
| 20:33.01 | k_linux | phh: np I hope it's wvga |
| 20:33.09 | phh | k_linux: yes it is |
| 20:33.16 | phh | chamonix: why would I need any ? :p |
| 20:33.21 | chamonix | rofl |
| 20:33.38 | phh | chamonix: two computers, three phones. I just need to make them run folding @ home to heat. |
| 20:34.13 | chamonix | ol, same here, my office is always warm, the cabinet as well as the servers r there |
| 20:35.17 | chamonix | Captnoord: to what part of RIL does ur commit apply? |
| 20:35.33 | chamonix | I mean what functionality |
| 20:37.23 | chamonix | and where is the commit? |
| 20:38.14 | chamonix | got it |
| 20:38.54 | chamonix | looks promising |
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| 20:44.35 | stinebd | make: *** No rule to make target `out/target/common/obj/JAVA_LIBRARIES/core_intermediates/javalib.jar', needed by `out/target/common/docs/api-stubs-timestamp'. Stop. |
| 20:44.36 | stinebd | :/ |
| 20:44.58 | stinebd | screw docs |
| 20:45.04 | phh | lol |
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| 21:04.04 | chamonix | ok test started with new RIL |
| 21:04.49 | chamonix | who wants to bet? |
| 21:05.08 | Captnoord | 2 hours |
| 21:05.18 | chamonix | more? |
| 21:05.23 | Captnoord | nah |
| 21:05.40 | chamonix | u mean my battery is dead in 2 hrs? |
| 21:05.42 | chamonix | :-D |
| 21:05.49 | Captnoord | lol |
| 21:05.51 | Captnoord | +2 hours |
| 21:06.00 | chamonix | k, so tomorrow 20:00 |
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| 21:06.36 | chamonix | that would be cool |
| 21:07.18 | bzo | google i/o tweet: Froyo will be made available to OEMs and the open source community in the coming weeks |
| 21:08.01 | chamonix | I'm still running the best kernel ever Captnoord, kernel_capnoord_20100507 |
| 21:08.11 | chamonix | :) |
| 21:09.01 | chamonix | phh: have u seen anything about the security model for remote intents? |
| 21:09.08 | phh | chamonix: lol |
| 21:09.11 | phh | no |
| 21:09.15 | chamonix | cool |
| 21:09.16 | phh | but you're not the first one asking me p: |
| 21:10.09 | chamonix | rofl, I was imagining the biggest mobile botnet ever |
| 21:10.14 | phh | chamonix: still working on XtreMePP ? |
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| 21:10.18 | phh | ah. |
| 21:10.22 | chamonix | phh: sure |
| 21:10.52 | chamonix | but last weeks I didn't have really time besides work |
| 21:11.08 | chamonix | now I am a week off so I'll try to catch up a little |
| 21:11.34 | chamonix | waiting for my desire |
| 21:11.37 | chamonix | :) |
| 21:12.07 | ToAsTcfh | \o/ |
| 21:12.28 | parmaster | thats my concern with all these new binary distros |
| 21:12.37 | phh | parmaster: ? |
| 21:12.50 | parmaster | well anyone could have anything in them |
| 21:13.55 | phh | ah google stuff. |
| 21:14.46 | stinebd | phh: fyi, i have a mediawiki in progress for xdandroid.com |
| 21:14.47 | Captnoord | chamonix: i'm honored |
| 21:14.50 | chamonix | :) |
| 21:14.52 | stinebd | phh: keep it super secret |
| 21:14.55 | phh | stinebd: you have xdandroid.com ? |
| 21:15.06 | stinebd | had it for a while |
| 21:15.12 | stinebd | well just the nameservers for now |
| 21:15.21 | chamonix | for my part I have at least added a pref for switching remote XMPP command on/off, and default is off |
| 21:15.28 | parmaster | yaay xdandroid |
| 21:15.38 | phh | stinebd: ok cool |
| 21:15.43 | chamonix | as opposed to e.g. gtalk that u can't switch off |
| 21:15.57 | stinebd | right now it goes to my mirror of the files |
| 21:16.15 | stinebd | i'm working on some early content for the wiki and when i get enough there for it to be useful, i'll set that to be xdandroid.com |
| 21:16.23 | phh | stinebd: ok cool |
| 21:17.07 | chamonix | it reminds me that I want php and microapache for android |
| 21:17.20 | chamonix | so I can run dokuwiki |
| 21:18.04 | phh | :) |
| 21:18.12 | phh | I love the crazy people here. |
| 21:18.47 | chamonix | I was told my new network provider doesn't NAT so that could be pretty cool |
| 21:20.42 | phh | chamonix: huhu |
| 21:20.48 | phh | sounds hard to believe :p |
| 21:21.09 | chamonix | I'll blieve it when I can see it |
| 21:21.44 | chamonix | if not we can still write a http2intent gateway |
| 21:21.50 | chamonix | HeHeHe |
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| 21:22.05 | chamonix | maximum overkill |
| 21:22.52 | chamonix | it reminds me of the old j2ee days when devs were looking at using as many frameworks as possible, implementing full stacks for making local calls |
| 21:23.23 | chamonix | with abstraction, webservices for everything, etc. |
| 21:24.00 | phh | :p |
| 21:24.08 | phh | http2intent... I like th idea :p |
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| 21:24.21 | chamonix | but the more I think about remote intents the more I get ideas about mobile cloud computing |
| 21:24.37 | phh | chamonix: but perhaps you can do something more simple like wiki application that is synced with a distant media wiki ? |
| 21:25.03 | phh | that would be really cool :p |
| 21:25.19 | phh | one day I'll have to learn android programming |
| 21:25.32 | phh | there are many things I'd love to have |
| 21:25.33 | chamonix | mdos :-D |
| 21:25.38 | phh | mdos ? |
| 21:25.47 | chamonix | mobile denial of service |
| 21:25.51 | phh | -_-( |
| 21:26.09 | chamonix | bluekacking is out, intentjacking is in |
| 21:26.17 | chamonix | s/ka/ja |
| 21:26.43 | parmaster | i'm still running a winmo 6.1 thats vuln to the ftp obex exploit |
| 21:27.11 | chamonix | does it implement sms xss too? |
| 21:27.56 | parmaster | why is there no really strong sms encryption app |
| 21:28.44 | chamonix | no idea |
| 21:28.48 | phh | parmaster: you have something to hide ! ? :p |
| 21:29.56 | chamonix | I forgot if the java crypto libs r in the SDK |
| 21:31.46 | chamonix | http://developer.android.com/intl/zh-CN/reference/javax/crypto/package-summary.html |
| 21:31.50 | parmaster | i was talking to acidbitchez and we decided that only intellience and drug cartels probably are running really strong sms encryption lol |
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| 21:36.26 | chamonix | that's the reason mms was invented |
| 21:36.40 | chamonix | too stong crypto |
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| 22:03.39 | ToAsTcfh | anyone have a config for a sapphire? |
| 22:03.54 | ToAsTcfh | a defconfig maybe? |
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| 23:05.06 | templis | hi |
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