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00:17.34AstainHellbringso that hd2 video deal is cool
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00:18.34finezttrue
00:19.03brandon2004Kensan, did you guys ever settle on a final toolchain
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00:36.15dontknowhello
00:36.36dontknowanyone use 2.1 +sense for the tc touch pro?
00:36.41dontknowhtc*
00:37.38AstainHellbringdontknow nope
00:40.07dontknowaww ty
00:40.50AstainHellbringdontknow my tp is dead waiting for repair center to fix
00:42.22dontknowwont they give you a tp 2 then?
00:42.36AstainHellbringdontknow hoping so
00:49.14dontknowu on sprint?
00:49.29AstainHellbringyep
00:49.56dontknowcool they should
00:50.08AstainHellbringyah thats my thoughts
00:50.09dontknowi want an evo though
00:50.15AstainHellbringbut they told me that they had to order something
00:50.18AstainHellbringI wants evo too
00:50.39dontknowi saw one in the wild
00:50.44dontknowit was sweet
00:50.47AstainHellbringoh yah?
00:51.01dontknowevo advocates
00:51.12AstainHellbringnice
00:51.41dontknowman i just love to be able to see all a webpage
00:51.59dontknowand it runs super fast
00:52.08AstainHellbringyah
00:52.10AstainHellbringI have a desire
00:52.21AstainHellbringsnapdragon is freaking amazing on android
00:52.25AstainHellbringI have hd2 here as well
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00:53.29dontknowyou have t-mobile also?
00:53.39dcordeshi
00:53.50AstainHellbringdontknow no, ATT
00:53.57AstainHellbringI have telstra desire and hd2
00:53.58AstainHellbringhi dcordes
00:54.02dcordesAstainHellbring, what's up ?
00:54.05AstainHellbringdcordes nice vid post
00:54.16dontknowwhy 3 phones?
00:54.31AstainHellbringdontknow I have like 10-20
00:54.53AstainHellbringdcordes charging my hd2 to see what other fun stuff you'll be posting
00:54.53dcordesah that vid zipfile. I didn't think it would cause so much excitement
00:55.11dontknowowhy so many?
00:55.28dcordeslol AstainHellbring that's quite a colelction
00:55.28dontknowcan the hd2 run andriod?
00:55.43AstainHellbringlol dcordes you have a large crowd thats been growing following hd2 project
00:56.16dcordeswe've created a monster :/
00:56.27AstainHellbringlol yep defiantely
00:56.50dontknowso why so many phones astian?
00:57.05dcordesdontknow, the question is why do you have so few
00:57.15AstainHellbringdontknow cause they are fun to collect
00:57.21AstainHellbringespically when you arent paying for them
00:57.26dcordeshtc is best hardware in the world
00:57.37dontknowoh i thought you had them all active?
00:57.45AstainHellbringin cdma I have atleast one from every generation
00:57.51AstainHellbringdontknow lol nope just two active lines
00:57.55AstainHellbringone sprint and one ATT
01:03.10dcordesguys
01:03.14dcordesenjoy
01:03.19dcordesI need a looonng sleep
01:03.31dcordescya
01:03.42AstainHellbringnight dcordes
01:08.46AstainHellbringdontknow got your evo preordered yet?
01:08.53dontknownot yet
01:09.11dontknowhave to wait till upgrade eligible
01:09.16dontknowyou?
01:09.54AstainHellbringsame
01:10.07AstainHellbringall my lines are either out of contract or waiting for upgraded
01:10.15AstainHellbringand the out of contract one is one I want to stay that way
01:11.16dontknowoh
01:11.24dontknowso no evo 4 you?
01:13.35drellisdeehow do you handle the rhodium's mtype since the gsm has 72xx processor and the rhodw(cdma) has a 76xx processor?
01:15.16drellisdeedifferent mtypes?
01:15.42AstainHellbringdrellisdee I think the kernel handles it on its own
01:15.45AstainHellbringdont recall
01:18.05drellisdeeI was trying to work on a msm7600 device and wanted to find a msm7600 mtype to try
01:18.50drellisdeeI see no2chem registed 2734 for cdma rhod but have never seen that mtype used
01:28.13AstainHellbringdrellisdee seems like it all runs under the 2292 one looking at the latest rars
01:29.03drellisdeei saw that but didn't understand given different processors
01:29.25AstainHellbringdrellisdee they arent that different
01:29.33AstainHellbring7600 just does the gsm and cdma radio
01:30.52drellisdeewhitestone will boot on dec kernels as topaz mtype but not past
01:30.54drellisdeedrellisdee: whitestone =! Topaz . .why do you think this should work there too? WHitestone has a 7600 processor
01:31.19AstainHellbringdrellisdee also I know a lot of time was spent to unify the kernel/userspace too
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01:53.14makkonenastainhellbring: How do you manage to get phones without paying for them?
01:54.13AstainHellbringgot a real nice hookup
01:54.37parmasterfell off the truck ? lol
01:54.54AstainHellbringlol no justa anonymous benefactor
02:08.48drellisdeemmc1 DMA error does that mean sd isn't mounting properly?
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02:27.40AstainHellbringmakkonen what you up to?
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06:12.29SirLinuxGood morning guys
06:13.07SirLinuxI have a HTC touch 3g ( Jade ) and i want to install linux on it
06:13.10SirLinuxis that posibile ?
06:16.27tmztI think it's been tried
06:16.37tmztnot sure there's a working kernel for it though
06:16.53SirLinuxi see some videos with dual boot
06:17.21tmztactually it might have been added to dzo's kernel last year
06:17.29tmztis this a msm7200?
06:17.50SirLinuxmsm7200 ?
06:18.00SirLinuxhtc t3232
06:18.14SirLinuxis a msm7225
06:18.57tmzthah interesting
06:19.04tmztsupposedly so if Wildfire
06:19.14tmztwhich is an android device
06:19.24SirLinuxdude
06:19.28SirLinuxi have this phone new
06:19.37SirLinuxlocked on vodafone spain
06:19.42SirLinuxbut doesn't matter the network
06:19.51tmztit's not very common here
06:19.56SirLinuxjust ask me what u want to know about it
06:20.04tmztif I remember right cmonex had one for a while
06:20.04SirLinuxi don't know so much about htc's phones
06:20.09SirLinuxfor that i joined here :P
06:20.41SirLinuxhave WM 6.1 on it
06:21.06tmztright
06:21.20tmztI'm just saying there aren't that many msm7225 devices
06:21.33SirLinuxhmm
06:21.49tmztbut now we may have another device which has a linux kernel
06:22.15SirLinuxif somebody have some ideeas
06:22.18tmztwe do have some source for msm7225
06:22.21SirLinuxi can test it on my smartphone :-)
06:22.41tmztI guess we'll need to see how similar this device is to others
06:22.58SirLinuxgreat
06:26.31SirLinuxi'm waiting
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07:27.19SirLinuxI have a HTC touch 3g ( Jade ) and i want to install linux on it
07:27.22SirLinuxideeas ?
07:30.11SirLinuxideeas ?
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07:48.01*** topic/#htc-linux is Welcome to the http://htc-linux.org project! Please read the Wiki: http://htc-linux.org/wiki || Logs: http://irclog.netripper.com/?chan=htc-linux || This is no android support channel.
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09:22.12brandon2004can anyone help me with the steps to finish the android boot process
09:23.10brandon2004Kensan, could you help me with a problem?
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10:05.09brandon2004could use some help got android to load on the hd2 to just before the boot animation any help
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10:11.00phhlol ? they can't even run the init
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10:17.35Captnoordhmmm phh the ril module seems to be leaking a bit of memory all over the place
10:17.51Captnoordnot mutch....
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10:18.01Captnoordbut anough to do harm I guess
10:18.01phhCaptnoord: how surprising.
10:18.09phhI'd bet on it :p
10:18.13Captnoordhee
10:18.14Captnoordhehe
10:18.19phhCaptnoord: same for sensors driver :p
10:18.37Captnoordkernel driver?
10:18.38Captnoordwhich?
10:18.47phhuserland driver
10:18.49Captnoordk
10:19.10Captnoordi'll check if I can partly finish a patch.....
10:19.12Captnoordstill can't test
10:19.13Captnoordbleh
10:19.16Captnoordi'm a moron...
10:20.12phhstill haven't found how to get build/envsetup.sh ?
10:20.14phhpf
10:20.35Captnoordlol
10:20.36Captnoordnah
10:20.37CaptnoordI did
10:20.47Captnoordcloned the build repo
10:20.53Captnoordbut doesn't seem to work
10:20.55CaptnoordI dono...
10:21.06CaptnoordI do . build/envsetup.sh
10:21.09Captnoordbut nothing happens
10:21.11Captnoordlinux noob
10:21.30phhnothing is supposed to happen
10:21.35phhit just gives back to the prompt
10:21.41Captnoordk
10:21.43phhbut no you have a "mm" command defined :p
10:21.45Captnoordthen I do build
10:21.52phhs/no/now/
10:21.53Captnoordor make
10:22.02Captnoordmm?
10:22.03Captnoord:S
10:22.06phhI do mm
10:22.12phhI think stinebd said make work
10:22.23Captnoordmm
10:22.26Captnoordi'll try mm
10:23.56CaptnoordCouldn't locate the top of the tree.  Try setting TOP.
10:23.57CaptnoordLOL
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10:24.23phhexport TOP=/where/is/your/android/tree then
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11:29.13brandon2004Markinus, I managed to boot android to right before the boot animation on the hd2 then it said it couldn't find the file is /system/ any ideas
11:32.02Markinusdo you have a right rootfs and initrd?
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11:51.50brandon2004I am not sure
11:52.22brandon2004Markinus, which would be the right one I extracted the ones from cyanogen's nexus one rom
11:52.43brandon2004and it didn't have a rootfs
11:53.07brandon2004just a kernel and initrd and I just used the latest leo kernel
11:53.16Markinustake maybe the stuff from the other devices like Rhod/Topaz/Dia
11:53.48brandon2004ok I will try that]
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11:56.38[acl]phh?
11:59.51[acl]phh: i started snooping around the processes that run when i lauch a 3d app in winmo. But there are like 40 dlls that load up. I'm not really sure which one to concentrate on. i'm assuming libgles_cm.dll? but there are tons more.
12:00.07[acl]ok gotta get to work.
12:08.53Captnoord[acl] if you read this.... don't focus on that dll....
12:08.58Captnoordthats only the opengl wrapper on itself
12:09.06Captnoordnot the hw driver
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12:10.07Captnoordfocus on ahi2dati.dll
12:10.41Woutoi
12:11.35Captnoordoi
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12:42.00hnsris it possible to run android on an htc touch hd?
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13:13.34Captnoordphh microp for kovsky very different?
13:13.47phhCaptnoord: it seems
13:13.55phh0x20 id is something else for us.
13:13.59Captnoordtrue
13:14.07Captnoord0x20 is misc_states
13:14.13Captnoordnavi shit
13:14.14Captnoordreset
13:14.23Captnoordfor us
13:14.30phhI hope it's not for them :D
13:14.36Captnoordi'm downloading the oem shit....
13:14.39Captnoordso I can take a look
13:16.21CaptnoordI think it would be smart to split it....
13:16.26Captnoordotherwise you get a lot of if's
13:20.11Captnoordthey call it microp1
13:25.55spetrillophh: would it be possible to get a generic kb added so we could test Whitestone compatibility? I believe its a 2514 kb.
13:26.30Captnoordyup there screwed
13:26.40Captnoordcompletely diff cmd's
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13:27.33Captnoordbut it has a suspend function
13:27.34CaptnoordMOV     R0, #3
13:27.34CaptnoordBL      LEDOFF
13:27.34CaptnoordMOV     R0, #6
13:27.34CaptnoordBL      LEDOFF
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13:34.24phhspetrillo: kb ?
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13:37.08Captnoordkeyboard
13:38.20spetrillokeyboard...
13:38.35spetrilloSorry bout that.
13:38.40phhwhat the hell is a 2514 keyboard ?
13:39.32spetrilloLemme check my notes....I thought that was the deviceid for the generic one you put in for Topaz...my apologies if I am wrong.
13:40.08phhah mach id you mean ?
13:40.14phhwhy the hell do you call it a keyboard ?
13:40.46spetrilloYes sorry...still trying to get the lingo...
13:41.47Captnoordhmmmm.......
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13:42.31spetrilloIf that is possible both Drellisdee and I think we should be able to make some progress on Whitestone compatibility. We are very keen to get this operational for Whitestone.
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13:43.49Captnoordlol.........
13:43.50Captnoordsure
13:44.06Captnoordwhy not
13:44.19Captnoordbut why don't you dump the rom or go sniff i2c
13:44.28Captnoorddo major haret tricks to get some data
13:44.36Captnoordor reverse it trough ida
13:45.35phhCaptnoord: why start so complicated .. ?
13:45.50CaptnoordI dono
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13:46.10Captnoordmaybe because I have trouble installing java 5 on my ubuntu 10
13:46.11Captnoordbleh
13:46.17phhanyway I don't even know the status with topaz or rhod id
13:46.22phhCaptnoord: lol
13:46.42phhCaptnoord: yup this java5 dependancy is awful.
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14:15.53brandon2004Markinus, I got further with the Nexus's files, but now I am getting a panic attempted to kill init after it launches adb
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14:18.19[acl]Captnoord: Got it.. ahi2dati.dll will be my beotch
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14:26.44AstainHellbringmorning!
14:28.59brandon2004anyone help with after android starts attempts to kill init
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14:42.18LeTamaHello brandon2004, your issue with adb is the usual one, launching a statically linked executable
14:43.00LeTamait segfaults and trashes the init process
14:43.26LeTamaresulting in the "attempts to kill ini"
14:43.29LeTamainit
14:43.52brandon2004LeTama well I stopped adb from running in the init.rc and now it says BUG: sleeping function called
14:44.04brandon2004from invalid context
14:44.34brandon2004at arch/arm/mm/fault.c
14:45.47LeTamaI saw it from time to time... What's launched after the adbd command ?
14:47.36brandon2004not sure the first thing it says is init: cannot find '/system/bin/playmp3' disabling bootsound
14:47.53brandon2004then the BUG then the kernel panic
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14:49.17LeTamainit probably tries to launch another executable that mess up memory.
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14:50.18LeTamathe only way I found to run executable is to rebuild them from source code, with same toolchain as kernel and no static library
14:50.44LeTamaany other binary segfaults or crashes
14:51.43brandon2004ok I did build the kernel with gcc 4.4.4 and I was just using the nexus version of android by cyanogen
14:52.05brandon2004is there anything I need to do special to build android for the leo?
14:52.31brandon2004it will only take a few I have a i7 running at 4.2 Ghz
14:54.24LeTamawell, I don't know how to rebuild android with another toolchain
14:54.55brandon2004I will just replace the binaries it uses with the one from gcc 4.4.4 lol
14:55.12LeTamayou can try :)
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14:56.10LeTamahowever adbd is still statically linked. I don't know if static link works with 4.4.4, but if it doesn't, you should remove it from init
14:56.52brandon2004ok do I need any special compiler flags
14:59.41LeTamacheck the one used for kernel build (make V=1 ...)
15:00.09LeTamaand adapt them...
15:00.56LeTamaor you could use the one I used for my init/helloworld: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/mobile-linux-discuss/2010-May/000087.html
15:01.06brandon2004ok
15:01.08LeTamabut for android, I'm not sure it will work
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15:43.54brandon2004LeTama, well there is no more kernel panic but it just keeps printing init: untracked pid exited and the each have a different number increasing by 2
15:47.32LeTamabrandon2004: hum, strange
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16:45.16hamagcsouthcape.org having some issues this morning?
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17:05.36Captnoordre
17:12.21Captnoordphh: http://deja.jails.nl/trashbin/0002-fix-mem-leaks.patch
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17:29.29phhCaptnoord: cool
17:30.08Captnoordyour welcome
17:30.12CaptnoordI hope it doesn't crash
17:30.13Captnoord:P
17:30.20Captnoordbut its all obviouse
17:30.24Captnoordthere are a couple of more...
17:30.34Captnoordbut for now
17:30.40Captnoordthis is good for the first go
17:30.40Captnoord:P
17:31.11CaptnoordI wonder who wrote the stuff
17:31.26Captnoordas in the original code the free's are also missing
17:31.27Captnoordbleh
17:32.09chamonixhey guys
17:32.28Captnoordyo chamonix
17:32.35chamonixheya Captnoord
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17:33.07chamonixI have a working SIM again so I'll retest the best kernels for having a diff baseline
17:33.30Captnoordhehe
17:33.42chamonixsee if I can break the 20 hours
17:33.44Captnoordi'm checking the ril driver
17:33.54Captnoordmaybe I can add another hour or 2 with it
17:34.04Captnoordphh already commited a patch of mine
17:34.18chamonixbtw did u see my result of debug vs. nodebug kernels? it's same when it comes to battery
17:34.30Captnoordhmmmm
17:34.31Captnoordokey
17:34.36Captnoordobviouse
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17:34.46chamonixdoesn't puzzle me
17:34.55Captnoordhehe
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17:35.08chamonixbecause the battery comsumption is inho not related to running kernel code anyway
17:35.20chamonixs/inh/imh
17:35.21Captnoordnot really
17:36.44bzoCaptnoord: is ril requestScreenState() relevent for cdma? I see it is not implemented
17:37.01chamonixI just need to get a clean 2.1, mine has too many apps included and I don't like that
17:37.25Captnoordbzo... I haven't checked the cdma dll
17:37.51Captnoordmaybe i'll check it tonight
17:38.00bzodo you have the dll already?
17:38.11Captnoordnope
17:38.24bzowhich one do you need?
17:38.48Captnoordrilphone.dll
17:38.51Captnoordif you got one
17:39.05bzook, let me look
17:45.29bzomeh, found it, but it won't let me copy it
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17:47.42Captnoordhehe
17:47.45Captnoordlike always
17:47.47Captnoord:P
17:47.54bzoguess I gotta dump the rom, blech
17:48.18Captnoordbleh
17:48.28chamonixwhy the fuck would someone restrict an online service to certain countries?
17:48.35Woutads
17:48.39Woutlicensing
17:48.47chamonixlol, it's a paying service
17:49.01chamonixmean I'm ready to spend money and I can't
17:49.25chamonixhow retarded is that?
17:49.32chamonixsry :-X
17:49.36chamonixit just came out
17:50.42chamonixI mean I don't mind spending money for getting music online but if I can't I'll get it illegally nayway so what's the point?
17:50.52Woutit's all licensing
17:51.03Captnoordand its all a way of controling the media
17:51.10Captnoordcontrol who listens
17:51.17Captnoordcontrol who can use it
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17:52.47chamonixin my eyes it's sponsoring all services where u can get the stuff illegally
17:53.57chamonixas long as it's easier to susbcribe to usenet as to an online music store
17:54.20Captnoordyup
17:54.27chamonixit being too expensive is really not the point
17:58.06chamonixbut foe now let's test :)
17:58.36Captnoordyea its more related to how easy it is to get i9t
17:58.37Captnoordit
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17:58.51Captnoordif it costs money
17:58.52bzoCaptnoord: ok, I got the dll, shall I email it to you?
17:58.56Captnoordsure
18:01.16bzofound a great utility for extracting module files
18:01.22bzoyou can do it right from winmo
18:01.24bzohttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1571715
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19:06.58KensanGNUtoo: hi
19:09.10GNUtoohi Kensan
19:09.52GNUtooKensan, I'm always curious about the freeable hardware even if I don't plan to buy it,you have nexus one no?
19:10.58KensanGNUtoo: yes
19:11.10KensanGNUtoo: but I got the second-hand HTC Dream today
19:11.30KensanGNUtoo: what's the easiest way to get a running image on that phone?
19:11.44GNUtoodid you root it?
19:11.47KensanGNUtoo: Do I need to "root" it somehow or some other steps?
19:11.56GNUtooyou need to root it
19:12.01KensanGNUtoo: nope, stock android image,  haven't done anything else.
19:12.04KensanGNUtoo: ok
19:12.05GNUtoothen you need fastboot and a sd card
19:12.35GNUtoofor routing it you need to find a howto on the web that works with your country
19:12.51GNUtooI used italian rooting guides and it worked
19:13.43GNUtooafter rooting it you'll need a blank ext3 sdcard,a rootfs, a kernel in fastboot image and fastboot
19:14.04GNUtoobtw do you know oe?
19:16.10GNUtoobecause if you know oe you could bitbake an image,else you could use someone else's image like mines or mickey's images
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19:16.43KensanGNUtoo: yes I do.
19:16.52GNUtoook nice
19:16.55KensanGNUtoo: I will look for a howto and do accordingly.
19:17.02GNUtoook nice
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19:18.27mickeylKensan: please document the process so you can walk me through afterwards
19:18.36Kensanmickeyl: will do
19:18.55mickeylcool, thanks. here's a G1 that wants to be equipped with a fastboot-capable bootloader as well :)
19:19.24Kensanmickeyl: I got mine today in the mail
19:19.44mickeylcongrats
19:19.45Kensanmickeyl: the phone got sent to a different person with same name (firstname and name!)
19:19.51mickeylheh, uh oh
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19:23.08GNUtoomickeyl, you already have fastboot enabled bootloader,you just need to unlock it,no need to flash an engineering bootloader
19:23.27mickeylok, or that
19:23.50GNUtooI don't have the engineering bootloader
19:24.08GNUtoothe only thing is that you can't flash a kernel with the normal bootloader but you can boot an image...
19:24.15GNUtooso you boot cm-recovery-1.4
19:24.19GNUtooand flash it from there
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20:11.57GNUtoomickeyl, do you have the required fastboot and adb?
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20:17.57GNUtoos/ mickeyl / Kensan
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20:24.00KensanGNUtoo: I am trying to downgrade the image but the bootloader simply states "Not an image"...
20:24.18KensanSomebody is having connection issues...
20:24.27GNUtooKensan, ah? use file on the image
20:24.30Kensanlooks in the general direction of Zepiii
20:24.56Kensanfile DREAIMG.nbh
20:24.58KensanDREAIMG.nbh: data
20:25.12GNUtoonbh?
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20:26.21GNUtoohexdump  ../bootimg/msmfb_new2_0001.fastboot -C | head
20:26.21GNUtoo00000000  41 4e 44 52 4f 49 44 21  b8 56 28 00 00 80 00 10  |ANDROID!.V(.....|
20:26.32GNUtoothen some space
20:26.36GNUtoo00000040  63 6f 6e 73 6f 6c 65 3d  74 74 79 31 20 72 6f 6f  |console=tty1 roo|
20:27.17GNUtooKensan, I'll look for my images
20:30.17GNUtooKensan, ok reading my howto again
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20:32.56GNUtooKensan, ^^^
20:35.28KensanGNUtoo: All the howto's I found so far tell me to downgrade with some DREAIMG.nbh file on the microsd card...
20:35.35GNUtoook
20:35.46GNUtooI bet you must put that file on the microsdcard
20:35.47GNUtooand then
20:36.01GNUtoogo in fastboot mode pressing some keys on the phone
20:36.14GNUtooand press other keys to boot or flash the image
20:36.30KensanGNUtoo: yes, I get to the bootloader but it will not accept the image or it says it does not find an image...
20:36.54GNUtoois the sdcard fat formated?
20:37.29GNUtoois the sdcard inserted correctly?
20:37.40KensanGNUtoo: yes
20:37.49Kensanand yes :)
20:38.44GNUtoohexdump -C DREAIMG.nbh | head ?
20:40.06KensanGNUtoo: 00000000  c0 93 ad 7c 14 b6 92 e9  b9 04 80 c5 cd a0 66 2e  |...|..........f.|
20:40.15KensanGNUtoo: 00000010  8a f6 96 2b fd 43 28 20  73 54 e8 fc 91 48 40 ff  |...+.C( sT...H@.|
20:40.19GNUtoostrange
20:41.15GNUtoomaybe DREAIMG.nbh is wrong?
20:41.30GNUtoothat is to say the file you downloaded is not correct or something like that
20:42.00GNUtooI've an italian guide otherwise
20:42.14GNUtooyou can try it without flashing if you want
20:42.29KensanGNUtoo: ok
20:43.40DomZ!users
20:44.35GNUtooKensan, give me a sec...I'll have to try a patch for another device
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20:47.28GNUtooKensan, do you have a roger dream or a normal one?
20:50.38KensanGNUtoo: How do I determine which one I have?
20:50.55GNUtooroger is a carrier
20:51.08GNUtoothe thread with fastboot images I got is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566669
20:51.08KensanGNUtoo: ah no I have a T1 european
20:51.11GNUtoook
20:51.27GNUtooI'll test the patch I was given and then come back
20:51.55KensanGNUtoo: alright, thank you
20:55.35parmasterwho runs the htc-linux twitte account?
20:57.03parmasteris it netripper?
20:57.11NetRipperdcordes
20:57.47parmasteroh ok, thanks for quenching my curiosity ;)
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21:03.15GNUtooKensan, try to fastboot http://rapidshare.com/files/387558151/recovery-RA-dream-v1.7.0.img
21:04.55GNUtoothen if it works and that adb works with it we're ok
21:11.56KensanGNUtoo: I can't simply flash an image because I am not root.
21:12.09GNUtooah
21:12.14GNUtoobut you can boot the image?
21:12.52Kensaneh.. I don't think so
21:16.00GNUtoook
21:16.06GNUtoommm can we see that tomorrow
21:16.11GNUtoobecause it's late here...
21:17.10KensanGNUtoo: yeah sure. I am trying a different way
21:17.20KensanGNUtoo: thanks for all your support.
21:17.32GNUtoook
21:17.34GNUtoothanks
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21:28.01ToAsTcfhanyone here know anything about compilers?
21:28.30KensanToAsTcfh: well that's a rather wide fishnet you are throwing out there ;)
21:28.52ToAsTcfhhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UClibc <<<i was told that using this compiler instead of gcc would give massive mprovements in speed
21:29.13ToAsTcfhbetter?
21:29.36ToAsTcfhits funny cuz i dont see it
21:29.55phhlol ?
21:29.55ToAsTcfhbut if someone can confirm that would be great
21:29.57phhuclibc is no compiler
21:30.09KensanToAsTcfh: I don't know about speed improvements but uclibc is just a differen libc
21:30.13phhit's just.... a libc ...
21:30.17ToAsTcfhok
21:30.28phhand I don't think android would work on anything else than bionic.
21:30.40ToAsTcfhwell i was told that it does
21:31.24ToAsTcfhthat if i compiled using rootwhatever and chose to configer for my cpu i would get massive speed increases
21:31.35ToAsTcfhidk it sounds dumb to me
21:31.39phh?
21:31.41phhrootwhat ?
21:31.43phhchose what where ?
21:31.51Captnoordre
21:32.30ToAsTcfhElaborating on what I said eariler, the Android SDK is designed for
21:32.30ToAsTcfhmany ARM processors, and only has optimizations for ARMv5! As we know,
21:32.30ToAsTcfhour Hero is an ARMv6.
21:32.31ToAsTcfhBased on my experiences with the moment, if toast is using the Android
21:32.31ToAsTcfhSDK, he can probably add about 13% performance increase by using a
21:32.31ToAsTcfhcustom uClibc Buildroot optimized for the Hero's ARM1136EJ-S
21:32.33ToAsTcfhprocessor.
21:32.35ToAsTcfhpaisted
21:33.08ToAsTcfhtru or no
21:33.14Captnoordphh tried my mem leak patch?
21:33.30ToAsTcfhbefore i burn up the next hours waisting my time
21:35.12ToAsTcfh"Believe it or not, compiling the kernel with Android SDK is the worse
21:35.12ToAsTcfhway, and will result in a slow kernel. The reason being is it has no
21:35.12ToAsTcfhCPU optimizations. Most of my success with the Samsung Moment involved
21:35.12ToAsTcfhbuilding a custom uClibc Buildroot toolchain with compiler flags
21:35.12ToAsTcfhspecific to the CPU in the Samsung Moment"
21:35.19ToAsTcfhanother paste
21:35.35ToAsTcfhanyone know? or do i gotta try this
21:36.16CaptnoordI think you got to try it
21:36.29ToAsTcfhlol
21:36.38ToAsTcfhjust to shoot it down
21:36.53ToAsTcfhfuck it ill do it for shits
21:37.40ToAsTcfhi dont beleave a compiler can make that much of a difference on a kernels performace over using gcc
21:37.52ToAsTcfhbut who am i
21:38.32Captnoordnah your correct
21:38.44Captnoordonly hand crafted asm can be faster.......
21:38.47Captnoordor even
21:39.05Captnoordasm that has been arranged into a special order
21:39.12Captnoordlike on the current x86 cpu's
21:39.15Captnoordyou can gain speed
21:39.27Captnoordto group all the math instructions
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21:44.57ToAsTcfhso even if the compiler is compiling for my cpu it wouldnt make a flip
21:45.13Captnoordnah it does
21:45.25Captnoordbut there are just to many special cases
21:45.31Captnoordto implement in a generic way
21:46.06phhToAsTcfh: I'm pretty sure android build their stuff with the correct optimisation
21:46.13phhthat would sound too stupid.
21:46.44ToAsTcfh"13% performance increase by using a
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21:46.56Captnoordit can be true
21:47.23Captnoordgcc is just a generic compiler
21:47.32Captnoordthere are guys focussing on the arm part of it
21:47.49Captnoordbut still..... there is loads more to optimize
21:47.56Captnoordif you really put effort into it
21:48.23ToAsTcfhok so if its possible and not been tried ill do it. but im gonna be pissed if it flops :P
21:48.44ToAsTcfhill use the precompiled to save my night
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21:50.38Captnoordbeen nice on the i2c chips
21:50.51Captnoordas people seem to notice its a bit more stable
21:51.00Captnoordstill working on my raph panel rewrite
21:51.08ToAsTcfhah tru
21:51.12Captnoorddid ril power management patch
21:51.15ToAsTcfhopengl yet?
21:51.18Captnoordnow working on a mem leak fix
21:51.26Captnoordopengl for raph?
21:51.29ToAsTcfhyeah
21:51.30Captnoordopengl for raph works
21:51.36ToAsTcfh\o/
21:51.38Captnoordor do you mean android 2.1
21:51.42ToAsTcfhyeah
21:51.44Captnoordnope
21:51.46CaptnoordI don't know
21:51.50ToAsTcfh:-/
21:51.51Captnoordcan't boot 2.1 for some reason
21:52.04Kensantrying to turn on the phone without the battery being inserted is a bad idea...
21:52.04ToAsTcfhfrustration
21:52.11Kensanmaybe I should go to bed.
21:52.28ToAsTcfhany luck on battery life?
21:52.40Captnoordyea
21:52.42Captnoorddoubled it
21:52.44Captnoordfrom 13 hours
21:52.49Captnoordto about 26 hours and more
21:52.52ToAsTcfhwoot
21:52.56ToAsTcfhwhat was it
21:53.05ToAsTcfhah ill go look at the commits
21:53.53ToAsTcfhwell i managed to get all the bugs worked out of .29
21:54.11ToAsTcfhnow the challenge of forward porting to .32
21:54.22ToAsTcfhi got it to compile but no boot
21:54.24ToAsTcfh:/
21:54.33KensanToAsTcfh: what phone?
21:54.39ToAsTcfhcdma hero
21:54.47ToAsTcfhandroid
21:54.52ToAsTcfhi know
21:54.55ToAsTcfhsadness
21:55.09ToAsTcfh.29 isnt much better then .27 though
21:55.21ToAsTcfhjust better drivers for eclair
21:56.25ToAsTcfhand a thosand times easier to port bfs too
21:56.54Kensandoes bfs actually improve responsivness etc?
21:57.08ToAsTcfhon our device
21:57.12ToAsTcfhit does
21:57.25stinebdheh
21:57.37ToAsTcfhbut i guess once u guys tried it. they found no improvement
21:58.01stinebdphh: what's the story on libh_l?
21:58.28ToAsTcfhstinebd hows aosp
21:58.39stinebdstill broken and crap
21:58.42phhstinebd: don't know
21:58.43ToAsTcfhlol
21:58.50phhstinebd: I just know GPS works before your bot
21:58.53phhand no longer does after :p
21:59.10stinebdphh: consistently doesn't work, like ril? or kinda works?
21:59.16phhdon't know
21:59.22stinebdk
21:59.26phhI should try instead of using users uh ? :p
21:59.36phhtrusting users*
21:59.54stinebdwell if i could get some time off from my job i'd try
22:00.11stinebdspeaking of which i should probably go home at some point today
22:00.57stinebdi would love to see google check froyo into the aosp repo's after i/o
22:01.14stinebdso we can build a new release and not have to worry about insane crap like what happened with ril
22:01.17phhbut as usual it will take months.
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22:02.06stinebdpeople seem to think there will be some amazing speedup with froyo for us
22:02.12stinebdbut i think they'll be quite disappointed
22:02.18phhdon't know
22:02.27phhI think diamond will run out of memory.
22:02.36stinebdi'm surprised it hasn't already
22:03.01phhtrue
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22:10.12ToAsTcfharm or armeb?
22:10.22ToAsTcfhmy new compiler
22:10.28ToAsTcfhof doom
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22:25.46Captnoordlibhtcgeneric-ril.so
22:25.47Captnoordfinaly
22:25.56Captnoordtook me 2 days
22:25.56Captnoord:P
22:26.00Captnoordon and off
22:29.54phhwhat does your battery o meter say ?
22:30.35Captnoordthat I have to goto bed
22:30.38KensanAnd the Dream is all mine :)
22:30.38Captnoordand try tomorrow
22:31.10Kensanrooted and ready to go
22:31.21KensanGuess that's enough for today
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