| 00:00.33 | tmzt | http://www.facebook.com/CodeAuroraForum |
| 00:05.02 | antonthegreek | thanks again |
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| 00:31.11 | tmzt | https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/chrome/?p=kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=506525c98a26164ef96b751e12a27c9c8bd2452e |
| 00:36.35 | tmzt | this might help our defconfig problems :) |
| 00:36.37 | tmzt | https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/chrome/?p=kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=d568529dbb34831c44a3aca78a76374a367e4e59 |
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| 01:12.25 | randomblame | tmzt: chromeos? |
| 01:12.28 | randomblame | really? |
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| 01:18.46 | tmzt | hmm |
| 01:18.55 | tmzt | well I mean the defconfig patches |
| 01:19.36 | randomblame | I thought you were trying to run chrome os |
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| 03:38.48 | jumoit | hey, here's a silly question about how to look up what drivers along with corresponding peripherals have been supported and then maintained in linux kernel. (i'm nothing else than a novice in the kernel development, by the way) |
| 03:40.19 | jumoit | PLEASE extend a hand to me, you guys. |
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| 03:45.17 | jumoit | celthunder: i mean i would like to get a checklist on what drivers from various vendors have been support in kernel. |
| 03:45.46 | celthunder | jumoit, probably doing a google search on the vender would be best then |
| 03:45.55 | celthunder | or check linuxquestions.org |
| 03:46.05 | celthunder | they have a pretty big list of supported/unsupported hardware |
| 03:47.13 | jumoit | celthunder: actually, i have resorted to "google" prior to asking here. but, unfortunately i failed to get such information. so... |
| 03:47.48 | celthunder | so what vendor in particular are you wondering about |
| 03:48.54 | jumoit | celthunder: there's really no any special. just to know such thing. |
| 03:49.18 | celthunder | linuxquestions.org's supported hardware list is fairly decent |
| 03:49.30 | celthunder | though like any such list it's not complete |
| 03:50.17 | jumoit | well, thanks. i will try later on. |
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| 03:59.08 | tmzt | jumoit: we are perfectly willing to answer questions |
| 03:59.15 | tmzt | but you'll have to explain what your asking |
| 04:00.57 | celthunder | tmzt, yeah...i get more and more confused by answering than i did when i started answering |
| 04:02.21 | tmzt | well, #htc-linux is about running the linux kernel and systems (like android) on HTC smartphones |
| 04:02.50 | tmzt | so the drivers that keep us all entertained are support for the weird stuff in these phones |
| 04:03.12 | tmzt | this isn't a general linux channel but I'm happy to answer if you ask a question |
| 04:06.02 | jumoit | tmzt/celthunder: simply put, i would like to be aware of what as shown as the section of "Device Driver Support" at linux-usb.org. |
| 04:06.16 | jumoit | http://www.linux-usb.org/ |
| 04:06.54 | tmzt | specifically? |
| 04:15.01 | jumoit | tmzt: not particularlly. just for getting the bird's eye view on all drivers/devices in kernel similar to what as mentioned earlier. |
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| 04:15.34 | hamagc | Anyone awake? |
| 04:16.15 | hamagc | Hmm |
| 04:23.22 | tmzt | just ask |
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| 04:25.25 | jumoit | celthunder/tmzt: forget it. and then, i will go "home" to "train" myself to go further on the way of kernel development. thanks for your help all the same, anyway. :) |
| 04:26.03 | celthunder | hamagc, if anyone answers no i'd think that'd imply we are lying and not worth asking anything in the first place if we answer at all then a yes is merely implied |
| 04:29.54 | tmzt | we are happy to help |
| 04:30.00 | tmzt | you just need to ask a question |
| 04:30.11 | tmzt | what kind of overview? |
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| 05:41.50 | CoYoTe- | hi ppl |
| 05:42.23 | tmzt | hello |
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| 06:23.23 | tmzt | anybody know jairun? |
| 06:23.29 | tmzt | http://www.irregular-expression.com/?p=30 |
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| 07:57.08 | majster | hi |
| 08:04.21 | tmzt | 04:04 < funman> jhMikeS: virtual cached address is the same as physical address, but virtual uncached address is different |
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| 09:01.06 | Captnoord | okey rhod temperature is confirmed to work correctly |
| 09:01.13 | Captnoord | \o/ |
| 09:01.52 | phh | cool |
| 09:02.13 | Captnoord | now gonna check if I can make some sort of table |
| 09:02.16 | Captnoord | that works |
| 09:02.21 | Wout | \O/ |
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| 09:05.45 | Captnoord | lol |
| 09:05.51 | Captnoord | I would almost say its linear |
| 09:05.53 | Captnoord | hmmm |
| 09:05.56 | Captnoord | lemme put it in a graph |
| 09:06.51 | Pelalil | I fancy giving android or debian a go on my blackstone, I found http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlackstoneLinux most of the instructions seems quite old, is there a easy place that has the latest builds avaliable to download? |
| 09:07.43 | phh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=601751 |
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| 09:15.38 | Captnoord | damn its linear |
| 09:15.39 | Captnoord | bleh |
| 09:15.48 | Captnoord | did those fuckers really didn't pay attention to it |
| 09:16.26 | Wout | is that a good or bad thing? |
| 09:16.32 | Captnoord | good thing.... |
| 09:16.40 | Captnoord | no need for log call |
| 09:16.43 | Captnoord | so no need for table |
| 09:16.51 | Captnoord | just simple math is good anough |
| 09:16.53 | Wout | \o/ |
| 09:17.42 | Captnoord | 'http://deja.jails.nl/trashbin/rhod_temp.png |
| 09:18.05 | Wout | hmm, yup, seems pretty damn lineair :P |
| 09:18.50 | Captnoord | really wierd shit is that parts of the code is never used |
| 09:18.51 | Captnoord | :S |
| 09:19.10 | Captnoord | if (dRaw_temp < 4096.0) { |
| 09:19.10 | Captnoord | temp = dRaw_temp / ( 4096.0 - dRaw_temp ); |
| 09:19.16 | Captnoord | can temp be negative? |
| 09:19.46 | Captnoord | wierd shit |
| 09:20.16 | Captnoord | it can only be negative if dRaw_temp is big anough |
| 09:20.22 | Captnoord | bigger then 4096 |
| 09:20.27 | Captnoord | hmmm |
| 09:20.29 | Captnoord | didn't check that |
| 09:20.31 | Captnoord | but still |
| 09:20.34 | Captnoord | why |
| 09:20.38 | Captnoord | lets have a look |
| 09:20.59 | Captnoord | 4095 == -83 degrease |
| 09:21.01 | Captnoord | damn cold |
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| 09:23.17 | Captnoord | thats why I need a padawa |
| 09:23.23 | Captnoord | to confirm my findings |
| 09:24.03 | Captnoord | Wout I will build you a kernel |
| 09:24.12 | Captnoord | you just have to check if the temp is kinda correct |
| 09:24.16 | Captnoord | if you have the time |
| 09:24.18 | Wout | ok, sure |
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| 09:34.33 | Captnoord | aaahhhh wtf |
| 09:34.41 | Captnoord | I didn't follow openoffice calc rulez |
| 09:34.42 | Captnoord | bleh |
| 09:35.02 | phh | ? |
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| 09:43.17 | Captnoord | nah |
| 09:43.23 | Captnoord | I have english crap set |
| 09:43.26 | Captnoord | so I can't use . |
| 09:43.30 | Captnoord | I need to use , |
| 09:43.31 | Captnoord | bleh |
| 09:44.05 | Captnoord | yup |
| 09:44.07 | Captnoord | thats better |
| 09:44.15 | Captnoord | not really better |
| 09:44.19 | Captnoord | but thats more like it |
| 09:44.24 | Captnoord | not linear |
| 09:46.01 | Captnoord | http://deja.jails.nl/trashbin/rhod_temp.png |
| 09:46.02 | Captnoord | like so |
| 09:46.20 | Captnoord | crap that asks for a table |
| 09:46.21 | Captnoord | bleh |
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| 10:02.24 | Captnoord | hmmm raph's and rhod's temp scale look alike |
| 10:02.26 | Captnoord | a bit |
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| 10:15.08 | Captnoord | yo Untouchab1e |
| 10:15.35 | Untouchab1e | Captnoord: hey mate |
| 10:15.50 | Captnoord | how's life? |
| 10:16.15 | Untouchab1e | Hectic these days, but still pretty great! How about you? |
| 10:16.38 | Captnoord | waiting on a grade....... |
| 10:16.43 | Captnoord | exams crap |
| 10:16.52 | Untouchab1e | Aha.. |
| 10:16.53 | Captnoord | did the laminate on my new appartment |
| 10:16.59 | Untouchab1e | Sounds good! |
| 10:17.04 | Captnoord | which was a bitch as I want it perfect |
| 10:17.14 | Captnoord | http://deja.jails.nl/Data/Shared/Pictures/laminate/IMAG0026.jpg |
| 10:17.15 | Captnoord | like so |
| 10:18.07 | Captnoord | but i'm waiting so I can start my traineeship |
| 10:18.16 | Untouchab1e | Sweet |
| 10:19.12 | Captnoord | and i'm now trying to find a way of merging raph/diam/topaz temperature scale with the rhod's |
| 10:19.26 | Untouchab1e | ooh, cool |
| 10:19.30 | Untouchab1e | how is that working out for you? |
| 10:19.43 | Captnoord | reverse enginering is not the easy part of it |
| 10:19.47 | Captnoord | now* |
| 10:19.55 | Captnoord | trying to find a way of merging them |
| 10:20.00 | Captnoord | takes some magic |
| 10:20.13 | Captnoord | as in a way... the formula's seem to be kinda the same |
| 10:20.19 | Captnoord | but its not exactly yet |
| 10:20.49 | Captnoord | its now like this |
| 10:20.49 | Captnoord | http://deja.jails.nl/trashbin/rhod_temp.png |
| 10:21.13 | Captnoord | colm A is rhod |
| 10:21.15 | Captnoord | b is raph |
| 10:22.08 | Captnoord | maybe I should force maple to do my bidding |
| 10:22.19 | phh | chamonix: did you implement something to do "on changing position" stuff ? |
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| 10:41.09 | Untouchab1e | Captnoord: I have a quick questionf or you |
| 10:41.12 | Untouchab1e | question for you* |
| 10:41.35 | Captnoord | ask |
| 10:41.52 | Untouchab1e | My bachelor paper is going to involve some reverse engineering of either a Windows Mobile application or an Android app.. Im thinking i should go with Android as Java should prove easier to reverse-engineer than .NET, right? |
| 10:42.13 | Captnoord | hmmm |
| 10:42.15 | Captnoord | hard question |
| 10:42.20 | phh | both will be boring. |
| 10:42.30 | Captnoord | yup |
| 10:42.38 | phh | Untouchab1e: you've open source implementation of both |
| 10:42.41 | Untouchab1e | lmao |
| 10:42.49 | Untouchab1e | phh: what do you mean? |
| 10:43.02 | phh | Untouchab1e: you have open source implementation of java and of .net. |
| 10:43.06 | phh | so tracing software is easy |
| 10:43.14 | phh | just rebuild these implementations with debug message |
| 10:43.15 | Captnoord | true |
| 10:43.19 | Untouchab1e | hmm.. |
| 10:43.38 | Captnoord | I think when it comes to if its easier to do one or the other |
| 10:43.41 | Captnoord | I think java is easier |
| 10:43.50 | Captnoord | because .net has all the fancy design patterns |
| 10:44.01 | Captnoord | which making reversing the design a bit harder than java |
| 10:44.09 | Untouchab1e | Right.. |
| 10:44.22 | Captnoord | points out that I THINK that |
| 10:44.27 | Captnoord | doesn't have to be correct |
| 10:44.31 | Untouchab1e | I dont know much about reverse engineering yet (will start courses during summer) but just curious.. As I will want to take an app that uploads something to a server and seek to change the server it uploads data to |
| 10:44.48 | LeTama | .net is easy to reverse engineer with reflector |
| 10:45.00 | Captnoord | hmmm |
| 10:45.01 | Captnoord | you see |
| 10:45.12 | Captnoord | I only know a lot about binairy shit |
| 10:45.18 | Captnoord | not scripting languages |
| 10:46.04 | Untouchab1e | well, this would involve some binary code.. at least that's what I was told |
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| 10:46.18 | Captnoord | yea |
| 10:46.23 | Captnoord | code in a binairy form |
| 10:46.33 | Captnoord | but not raw asm |
| 10:46.36 | Captnoord | nah |
| 10:46.46 | Captnoord | even java bytecode is as good as its bytecode compiler |
| 10:46.48 | Captnoord | same goes for .ne |
| 10:46.50 | Captnoord | .net |
| 10:47.08 | Captnoord | and the thing about reversing is that compilers are dumb |
| 10:47.38 | Captnoord | even the 'smart' compilers are a bit better in compiling |
| 10:47.39 | Untouchab1e | but bottom line.. given the task at hand.. take a Android or WM app and change the server to which it uploads data.. is it a fair task or can it prove insanely difficult? I have no idea as Ive never done anything like it before.. |
| 10:48.04 | Captnoord | its not that easy |
| 10:48.11 | Captnoord | the app reversing could be easy |
| 10:48.16 | Captnoord | the hack to |
| 10:48.24 | Captnoord | but what if you have to reverse the auth method |
| 10:48.30 | Captnoord | the way it uploads data |
| 10:48.56 | Captnoord | that would simply involve you writing a debug server |
| 10:48.59 | Captnoord | so connect to |
| 10:49.11 | Captnoord | and spend a lot of love on it |
| 10:49.15 | Captnoord | hack the shit out of it |
| 10:49.25 | Captnoord | maybe the app has hashes |
| 10:49.33 | Captnoord | or uses crypt |
| 10:49.43 | Untouchab1e | hmm.. |
| 10:49.43 | Captnoord | reversing crypt is not hard |
| 10:49.47 | Captnoord | but its just another task |
| 10:49.52 | Captnoord | which is hard to verify btw... |
| 10:50.29 | Captnoord | and do you deside to write the server in the same language as the app |
| 10:50.37 | Captnoord | or would you code it in c/c++ |
| 10:50.42 | Captnoord | or any other languages |
| 10:50.45 | Untouchab1e | I can see now that I will be asking you lots of questions the coming months |
| 10:50.45 | Untouchab1e | hah |
| 10:50.52 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 10:51.01 | Captnoord | in a way your talking to the correct person..... |
| 10:51.09 | Untouchab1e | Yeah, I realize that |
| 10:51.10 | Untouchab1e | :) |
| 10:51.13 | Captnoord | eve online protocol is not hard |
| 10:51.25 | Captnoord | but a bitch to implement in any other language than python |
| 10:51.35 | Captnoord | wow's protocol is easy..... |
| 10:51.42 | Captnoord | just need to find all the flags |
| 10:51.43 | Untouchab1e | Back to the initial question though.. if you had two versions of an app, one for WinMo and one for Android.. what would you go for? |
| 10:51.55 | tmzt | wire protocol? |
| 10:52.01 | Captnoord | for me it won't matter |
| 10:52.02 | tmzt | somebody has a wiki documenting that? |
| 10:52.16 | Captnoord | hmmmmm..... |
| 10:52.19 | Untouchab1e | heh |
| 10:52.42 | Captnoord | there is a java plugin for ida |
| 10:52.48 | Captnoord | which handles bytecode |
| 10:52.53 | Untouchab1e | Thanks for the help mate.. I got to get running, but see you around? |
| 10:53.00 | Captnoord | but I don't know how good it is |
| 10:53.03 | Captnoord | k |
| 10:53.06 | Captnoord | yup |
| 10:53.16 | Untouchab1e | I guess you're always on here anyways, but do you use Gtalk? :P |
| 10:53.26 | Captnoord | nope |
| 10:53.39 | Captnoord | I don't want to have to many communication forms bothering me |
| 10:53.55 | Untouchab1e | hehe, IRC it is then :) Have IRC on Android anyways :) |
| 10:53.57 | Untouchab1e | See you later mate |
| 10:54.16 | Captnoord | k |
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| 11:16.21 | Captnoord | sure |
| 11:16.26 | Captnoord | woeps |
| 11:30.33 | Wout | back |
| 11:32.44 | majster_ | i just wouldering why android on topaz working much smoother then on rhodium ? ( switching between screens... scroling menu.. etc. ) cpu and ram is the same... as it say on wiki rhod is similar to topaz... so why rhodium is slower ?? |
| 11:33.03 | Captnoord | if we would know |
| 11:33.08 | Captnoord | your the first to know |
| 11:33.22 | Wout | is it really smoother? |
| 11:33.25 | majster_ | ok :) |
| 11:33.38 | majster_ | Wout: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM6Nahx4tYY&feature=related |
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| 11:34.53 | Wout | looks about as smooth as on my rhodium |
| 11:37.40 | majster_ | not as mine... and any other on youtube... |
| 11:39.34 | majster_ | Wout: comper this two movis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa1Eu_hzX8Q when he is scroling menu.... rhod is slower. |
| 11:40.10 | Captnoord | majster_: please stop this.... |
| 11:40.27 | Captnoord | you have any idea how you do NOT know if Wout have made his own mods? |
| 11:40.43 | Captnoord | you simply can't compare 2 devices regarding speed |
| 11:40.48 | Captnoord | there are to many variables |
| 11:41.31 | majster_ | stoped |
| 11:42.39 | Wout | w00t |
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| 11:59.06 | Wout | Captnoord: need more readings? or is it all math now? |
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| 12:05.46 | Captnoord | its all math now |
| 12:06.47 | Wout | k |
| 12:07.53 | Captnoord | in a nutshell its |
| 12:08.06 | Captnoord | 0.1e-1*(2600*x/z*18)/(2600-2600*x/z) VS x*y/(4096-x) |
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| 12:08.25 | Wout | aj, of course :P |
| 12:08.26 | Captnoord | thats the difference |
| 12:08.34 | Captnoord | between the implementations |
| 12:11.28 | Captnoord | Wout its the hw implementation thats different |
| 12:11.36 | Captnoord | I even think its the same temp sensor |
| 12:11.38 | Captnoord | thermistor |
| 12:12.19 | Wout | ah |
| 12:13.06 | Captnoord | but is very tricky to do the table thingy |
| 12:13.13 | Captnoord | but I simply can't do the float shit |
| 12:13.29 | Captnoord | besides the fact thats its crap to just turn it on for such a thing |
| 12:14.04 | Captnoord | phh is there a change to use a userspace module for the battery convertion? |
| 12:14.15 | Captnoord | chance |
| 12:14.19 | Captnoord | or what ever |
| 12:14.20 | Wout | Captnoord: and the rhod is the only device that needs float cals? |
| 12:14.28 | Captnoord | nope |
| 12:14.29 | Captnoord | all |
| 12:14.34 | Wout | k |
| 12:14.39 | Captnoord | but I hackedup a lookup table for raph |
| 12:15.28 | Captnoord | hmmm now its a bit easier |
| 12:15.52 | Captnoord | 0.01 * a * 18 * x / (2600 - ( a * x)) |
| 12:15.53 | Captnoord | vs |
| 12:16.07 | Captnoord | x / (4096-x) |
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| 12:23.35 | Captnoord | hmmmm |
| 12:23.37 | Captnoord | cool |
| 12:23.46 | Captnoord | I think I can generate a table for rhod |
| 12:23.53 | Wout | \o/ |
| 12:23.54 | Captnoord | and use it with a correction for raph |
| 12:24.15 | Captnoord | y = (.1800000000*(-4096.+x))/(-1.*range+x) |
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| 12:24.53 | Captnoord | but I do wonder where my 2600 went |
| 12:24.54 | Captnoord | lol |
| 12:24.56 | ciko | Hi |
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| 12:25.40 | ciko | Anyone with experience of 'linuxing' a Pocket Loox (720) here? |
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| 12:29.30 | thont | guys |
| 12:29.43 | thont | I saw toolchains in the wiki page |
| 12:29.51 | thont | which one shud I use for htc touch pro? |
| 12:30.03 | thont | Codesourcey or the one from google? |
| 12:30.11 | Captnoord | codesourcery |
| 12:30.15 | thont | thanks |
| 12:32.41 | thont | target os shud be EABI rite? |
| 12:32.57 | thont | sorry for my nooby :P |
| 12:37.58 | Captnoord | arch=arm |
| 12:38.09 | Captnoord | make sure you apply the config |
| 12:38.20 | Captnoord | and you add the path to the codesourcery dir |
| 12:38.26 | Captnoord | export* |
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| 12:39.06 | thont | I know that from wiki already |
| 12:39.19 | thont | just there are 4 versions of the toolchain |
| 12:39.25 | thont | EABI, uClinux |
| 12:39.33 | Captnoord | eabi |
| 12:39.33 | thont | GNU/Linux and SymbianOS |
| 12:39.46 | thont | yep, just wanna make sure |
| 12:39.47 | thont | thx |
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| 12:47.22 | Captnoord | cheers |
| 12:47.22 | Captnoord | double rhod_prep = temp/(4096.0-temp); |
| 12:47.23 | Captnoord | double rhod_gen = temp_generic(rhod_prep)*10.0; |
| 12:47.23 | Captnoord | double y = (0.18 * (-4096.0 + double(i))) / ((-1.0 * 4096.0) + double(i)); |
| 12:47.23 | Captnoord | double raph_gen = temp_generic(rhod_prep * y)*10.0; |
| 12:49.38 | Captnoord | in short |
| 12:49.44 | Captnoord | I can now generate a table for rhod |
| 12:49.48 | Captnoord | and use it for raph |
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| 12:52.16 | Wout | nice :) |
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| 12:54.53 | hax0r | hello |
| 12:55.23 | hax0r | i'm trying to boot the msm kernel on my htc leo |
| 12:55.31 | hax0r | but i have no console after haret |
| 12:55.43 | Captnoord | hax0r: leo is in its early stages |
| 12:55.46 | hax0r | haret freeze after loading the kernel and there is no more action |
| 12:55.50 | Captnoord | don't expect a working kernel |
| 12:55.52 | hax0r | yes i know |
| 12:55.56 | Captnoord | in like at least 6 months |
| 12:56.13 | Captnoord | unless your a developer that wants to help |
| 12:56.18 | Captnoord | you can't do anything about that |
| 12:56.22 | hax0r | but i managed to have a early printk console with others binaries |
| 12:56.32 | hax0r | i want to help |
| 12:57.13 | hax0r | i want to test a busybox ramdisk just to see the matter of static library |
| 12:58.12 | hax0r | i don't find what i have to enable to have the console with the information about the boot of the kernel .. |
| 12:58.16 | hax0r | virtual console? |
| 12:59.38 | hax0r | i find , i didn't have enabled graphical support... |
| 13:08.52 | Markinus | hax0r: whitch repo are you using? The fb console is working well |
| 13:09.12 | Markinus | do oyu have the right default.txt? |
| 13:16.02 | hax0r | yes i m using this repo :http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-msm-2.6.32 |
| 13:16.19 | hax0r | but i found the problem : i didn't have enable the graphic support |
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| 13:37.40 | dcordes | hi |
| 13:37.46 | dcordes | hax0r, make htcleo_defconfig |
| 13:41.49 | thont | question |
| 13:41.50 | thont | :D |
| 13:41.57 | thont | for htc touch |
| 13:42.06 | thont | which config file shud I copy over to .config? |
| 13:42.15 | thont | touch pro |
| 13:42.38 | Markinus | not copy |
| 13:42.43 | Markinus | make htc_msm_android_defconfig ARCH=arm |
| 13:42.59 | thont | oh |
| 13:43.01 | thont | ic |
| 13:43.02 | thont | thanks |
| 13:44.10 | thont | compiling haha |
| 13:44.12 | thont | first step finished |
| 13:44.15 | thont | thanks all |
| 13:45.38 | thont | normally, how long does it take to finish compilation? |
| 13:46.36 | Markinus | dependend to the pc hardware |
| 13:46.53 | thont | I compile on VIrtualBox, 512Mb Ram |
| 13:46.59 | thont | slax |
| 13:47.40 | thont | okok, continue. just can't wait :) |
| 13:47.43 | thont | thx thx :-x |
| 13:48.32 | phh | [14:14:04] <Captnoord> phh is there a change to use a userspace module for the battery convertion? <------- no. |
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| 13:53.08 | hax0r | dcordes , there is no htcleo_defconfig in this repository |
| 13:57.57 | thont | lol |
| 13:58.24 | dcordes | thont, this is not the most massive build environment one can have |
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| 13:59.18 | thont | sorry |
| 13:59.25 | thont | I switch between 2 computers |
| 13:59.31 | thont | virtualbox and real one |
| 13:59.39 | thont | the keyboard cause that |
| 13:59.54 | thont | I've finished compilation |
| 14:00.01 | thont | got the vmlinux |
| 14:00.05 | thont | what shud I do next |
| 14:00.08 | thont | ? |
| 14:00.44 | dcordes | you need zImage |
| 14:01.03 | thont | make ARCH=arm zImage isn't it? |
| 14:01.18 | thont | then wat vmlinux used for? |
| 14:01.29 | thont | is it the squash file? |
| 14:01.33 | dcordes | hax0r, http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=blob;f=arch/arm/configs/htcleo_defconfig;hb=refs/heads/htc-msm-2.6.32 |
| 14:02.11 | dcordes | hax0r, did you put ARCH=arm ? |
| 14:02.18 | dcordes | hax0r, else it won't find it |
| 14:03.23 | hax0r | okay thank you i works |
| 14:03.28 | hax0r | it * |
| 14:04.10 | thont | got zImage |
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| 14:06.42 | thont | how can I get the modules file like the official release? |
| 14:07.13 | dcordes | thont, what official release? |
| 14:07.30 | thont | http://glemsom.anapnea.net/android/htc-msm-android/#12e1f9b75b92213a6b028b3ab35a6e22f7217f80 |
| 14:07.38 | thont | in each release file |
| 14:07.42 | thont | there are two file |
| 14:07.44 | thont | zImage |
| 14:07.51 | thont | and module....tar.gz |
| 14:07.59 | thont | I created zImage already |
| 14:08.08 | thont | how abt the other? |
| 14:08.36 | phh | thont: for a part of them, make modules |
| 14:08.47 | phh | for the other part, go on android.git.kernel.org and download system/wlan/ti |
| 14:08.53 | phh | and for the last one, google ramzswap |
| 14:09.01 | dcordes | what? |
| 14:10.17 | dcordes | phh, can you add a sample default.txt in http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/trees/htc-msm-2.6.27 ? |
| 14:10.32 | phh | dcordes: I'm not sure of what's needed in it .. |
| 14:10.40 | phh | like ramsize/ramaddr |
| 14:10.44 | phh | I don't know haret to do that |
| 14:12.03 | thont | no rule to make target 'module' |
| 14:12.08 | phh | module*s* |
| 14:12.12 | thont | oh |
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| 14:13.57 | thont | finished but dunno where is the modules file |
| 14:14.13 | thont | let me figure it out myself |
| 14:14.15 | thont | thx |
| 14:16.32 | dcordes | phh, what do you mean you don't know haret to do that? I think it would be a good idea to add it because you use one branch/config for plenty devices and set up a lot in the default.txt |
| 14:16.51 | phh | dcordes: I mean I don't know if ramaddr/ramsize are needed |
| 14:17.10 | dcordes | you never boot your kernels? |
| 14:17.30 | phh | I do, but if publish a startup.txt, it has to contain only what's needed |
| 14:17.41 | phh | and I don't know what is actually needed. |
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| 14:23.40 | dcordes | phh, if it is contained in some way in the many builds flying around on the net it can be added in some way in git |
| 14:23.51 | phh | right .. |
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| 14:39.42 | dcordes | phh, how to get commit access in the gitorious project. trying to find some join button |
| 14:40.16 | phh | AFAIK an admin needs to add you |
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| 15:01.26 | hax0r | haret hang after launching linux |
| 15:01.47 | phh | it can't. |
| 15:01.52 | phh | if linux has been launched, haret no longer runs |
| 15:01.55 | phh | it can't hang. |
| 15:02.15 | hax0r | it's look like the kernel have no console to speak |
| 15:03.17 | hax0r | i must copy uImage or others ? |
| 15:03.43 | hax0r | zimage? |
| 15:03.43 | phh | Image AFAIK |
| 15:04.13 | hax0r | i work too much with uboot ... |
| 15:05.22 | Captnoord | re |
| 15:10.41 | phh | stupid gps code. |
| 15:11.25 | phh | ' for(i=5;i;++i) if(!can_send) sleep(1);//Time out of 5 seconds on can_send |
| 15:11.32 | phh | who is the stupid monkey who wrote that uh ? |
| 15:12.03 | Captnoord | lol |
| 15:12.13 | GNUtoo | lol |
| 15:18.46 | hax0r | somebody manage to have a prompt with the ramdisk of tacoma? |
| 15:19.49 | hax0r | set cmdline "init=/bin/sh rw" it hang with this argument, the flashllight is switch on and the screen become black |
| 15:22.51 | LeTama | hax0r, it hangs sometimes on fb init. you must try multiple time, and keep the usb cable plugged in. |
| 15:23.29 | hax0r | ok thank you |
| 15:23.46 | dcordes | LeTama, AC usb cable? |
| 15:24.25 | dcordes | LeTama, is it a problem to boot without or a problem to remove the plug during boot |
| 15:26.26 | Kensan | phh: that's a good one. Where did you find that? So I know to stay away from which device... |
| 15:26.29 | LeTama | I know that I don't boot if I don't have usb connected to PC |
| 15:26.57 | Kensan | dcordes: hi there. Did you make any progress on your segfaulting problem on Leo? |
| 15:27.03 | LeTama | on .32 that is |
| 15:27.05 | hax0r | and you v got the error boot console disabled when it hang? |
| 15:27.42 | LeTama | hax0r, I have black or blue screen without usb |
| 15:27.55 | hax0r | ok |
| 15:28.03 | LeTama | even with usb, it hangs sometimes, but less often |
| 15:28.30 | hax0r | with set cmdline "init=/bin/sh rw lpj=8000000" and with set initrd myinitrd.img ?? |
| 15:28.53 | hax0r | i can't get it work with this args |
| 15:29.11 | LeTama | hax0r, remove lpj=800000 |
| 15:29.27 | hax0r | ok i try |
| 15:30.09 | dcordes | Kensan, we are still debugging: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/mobile-linux-discuss/2010-May/thread.html |
| 15:31.26 | Kensan | dcordes: thanks for the pointer. |
| 15:31.44 | Kensan | dcordes: finally got my shiny new Nexus One ;) |
| 15:31.54 | hax0r | same issue without lpj=800000, you used the htcleo_defconfig? |
| 15:32.00 | dcordes | Kensan, so you running SHR already :) ? |
| 15:32.16 | LeTama | hax0r: yes, but not this command line and init |
| 15:32.34 | LeTama | I'm using debug initrd |
| 15:32.41 | hax0r | LeTama: you use which commands? |
| 15:33.17 | LeTama | set cmdline "mem=128M debug loglevel=7 user_debug=65535" |
| 15:33.24 | LeTama | with my own init |
| 15:33.25 | Kensan | dcordes: haha no, toying around with Android for a bit before I start gutting it ;) |
| 15:34.13 | LeTama | hax0r: netripper initrd should give you the prompt |
| 15:34.16 | phh | Kensan: I found that in my GPS code. |
| 15:34.30 | dcordes | Kensan, ok nice. looking forward to your results. I bet it runs like on speed |
| 15:34.44 | dcordes | shr that is |
| 15:36.36 | hax0r | LeTama: ok thank you i will try and your ramdisk just boot on my leo |
| 15:36.48 | phh | stinebd: wait.. you do geoip on ipv6 ?!? |
| 15:36.51 | Kensan | phh: hehe |
| 15:37.26 | Kensan | dcordes: Yes, the stock android thing runs *really* smoothly and without dropping a beat. |
| 15:37.39 | Kensan | dcordes: obviously battery life is an issue but oh well. |
| 15:37.52 | phh | Kensan: it's not meant to be used as a phone, is it ? :p |
| 15:38.05 | Khaytsus | I do geoip on ipv4 but ipv6!? |
| 15:38.38 | Kensan | dcordes: well don't know yet where to start with the nexus. Will have to take a closer look at what's there and put some kind of "roadmap" together. |
| 15:38.53 | phh | Khaytsus: bah wget http://xdandroid.southcape.org/rootfs/rootfs-20100513-c5ce41f.zip resolves to 2001:470:8830::1, and then it redirects me to the european mirror |
| 15:39.13 | Kensan | phh: It is very usable as a phone actually. I ran it for 2 days constantly using wireless and doing a couple phone calls etc |
| 15:39.24 | Khaytsus | phh: aaah yes, that... Me too. wget -4 |
| 15:39.31 | phh | Kensan: that's what you call "battery life is an issue" ..... ? |
| 15:40.00 | Kensan | phh: well I am used to charging my phone once a week so *hehe* |
| 15:40.06 | phh | Kensan: ah. |
| 15:40.19 | phh | I'm used to charge my phone twice a day. |
| 15:40.26 | phh | (and once a day when I'm using it normally) |
| 15:40.33 | Khaytsus | I charge when I go to bed and for about an hour in the middle of the day |
| 15:40.55 | stinebd | phh: no, but it's available |
| 15:41.07 | phh | stinebd: ho does your mirror redirect me to xland then ? |
| 15:41.09 | Khaytsus | Since my Palm Treo's, online push email + IM + playing around = about 140% battery usage a day |
| 15:41.29 | stinebd | phh: geoip redirects all addresses *not* known to be from north america to xland |
| 15:41.34 | phh | stinebd: oh ok |
| 15:42.20 | Khaytsus | btw, what'st he automagic way to download the latest kernel? |
| 15:42.40 | Khaytsus | I wrote a 4 line script to download the latest stuff earlier but kernel I don't see a way to automate |
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| 15:44.46 | dcordes | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzH43gpMYLI this would make for a nice addon for leo/nexus |
| 15:45.51 | phh | ok. pdsm_get_position always timeout. |
| 15:45.57 | phh | my filter is wrong /o\ |
| 15:46.25 | mickeyl | morning |
| 15:46.56 | Kensan | dcordes: the mini-keyboard is quite nice but it's rather expensive imho |
| 15:46.58 | Kensan | mickeyl: hi |
| 15:47.19 | dcordes | Kensan, yes it's totally over expensive |
| 15:47.27 | dcordes | but I want one :) |
| 15:47.45 | Kensan | dcordes: which memory allocator are you using? |
| 15:48.03 | dcordes | Kensan, hm I have no clue. is it some kernel config? |
| 15:48.07 | Kensan | dcordes: (regarding the segfaulting issue) |
| 15:48.10 | Kensan | dcordes: yes |
| 15:48.16 | Kensan | dcordes: SLAB,SLOB etc |
| 15:48.32 | dcordes | http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=blob;f=arch/arm/configs/htcleo_defconfig;hb=refs/heads/htc-msm-2.6.32 |
| 15:48.43 | Kensan | dcordes: thanks |
| 15:48.51 | dcordes | can't find slab or slob there |
| 15:49.11 | dcordes | mickeyl, morning |
| 15:49.38 | dcordes | mickeyl, new FSO2 hungry devices on the horizon ^^ |
| 15:49.44 | mickeyl | really? which ones |
| 15:49.51 | mickeyl | (apart from iPhone) |
| 15:49.55 | dcordes | Kensan's nexusone |
| 15:49.59 | Kensan | dcordes: CONFIG_SLAB=y |
| 15:50.14 | Kensan | dcordes: haha |
| 15:50.16 | dcordes | Kensan, had case sensitive turned on in firefox search |
| 15:50.43 | Kensan | mickeyl: I just want to toy around with the stock installed android image before I take it apart ;) |
| 15:51.04 | mickeyl | *nod* |
| 15:51.14 | mickeyl | don't use it too long though, you may end up liking it ;) |
| 15:51.16 | hax0r | LeTama, : does the ethernet gadget over usb work ? |
| 15:51.22 | mickeyl | blames the curse of "good enough" |
| 15:51.54 | LeTama | hax0r: never managed to make it work, but I didn't put many time in it |
| 15:52.07 | hax0r | ok |
| 15:52.12 | hax0r | i will try |
| 15:52.53 | mickeyl | dcordes: i guess you don't know whether the .32 tree will work on the raphael |
| 15:52.57 | mickeyl | or do you? |
| 15:53.16 | dcordes | mickeyl, no way |
| 15:53.20 | Kensan | mickeyl: well yes, it's all very snappy and feels quite well integrated. |
| 15:53.33 | mickeyl | dcordes: will work no way, or you don't know? |
| 15:53.49 | dcordes | mickeyl, if you want the recent developments for raphael you need to use htc-msm-2.6.7 |
| 15:53.54 | Kensan | mickeyl: my plan was to screw up my dream before moving on to the nexus but since my dream has still not arrived... |
| 15:54.03 | mickeyl | dcordes: hmm, ok, still .27. |
| 15:54.20 | mickeyl | Kensan: where's it hanging? |
| 15:54.47 | dcordes | mickeyl, I'm not saying it's impossible but it will involve a lot of work |
| 15:55.08 | mickeyl | dcordes: sure. that's basically the dealbreaker though :) |
| 15:55.15 | dcordes | mickeyl, the main developers seem not too interested |
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| 15:58.03 | hamagc | good morning fellas |
| 15:58.51 | Kensan | mickeyl: I don't know. The ebay seller said he put it in the mail but it has not gotten here... |
| 15:59.11 | Kensan | moishaspb: so either there's a screw-up with the delivery or the seller is basically lying to me |
| 15:59.45 | Kensan | s/moishaspb/mickeyl/ |
| 16:00.01 | mickeyl | Kensan: ah well, we don't have any progress on kernel side atm., so there will be some issues left for you when you finally get the dream :) |
| 16:00.05 | Kensan | ~lart tab-completion |
| 16:00.05 | apt | executes killall -KILL tab-completion |
| 16:00.40 | Kensan | mickeyl: lol, don't get your hopes up to much. The kernelstuff I've done so far is in a completely different area |
| 16:00.48 | Kensan | (crypto) |
| 16:01.40 | mickeyl | i see, well at least you _have_ some kind of kernel experience. which is more than we can say from us other guys |
| 16:02.34 | Kensan | dcordes: might it be a libc/execve issue instead of kernel? |
| 16:05.51 | Kensan | dcordes: are the binaries that segfault dynamically linked? Another suspect could be the shared lib loader? |
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| 16:07.13 | LeTama | Kensan, see my last post here http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/mobile-linux-discuss/2010-May/thread.html |
| 16:07.47 | tief | is fast charging enabled by default in these builds? |
| 16:07.49 | LeTama | In fact, dynamically link works, but statically hangs |
| 16:10.14 | Kensan | LeTama: ah sorry, missed the last message. |
| 16:10.31 | LeTama | no problem :à |
| 16:11.19 | Kensan | LeTama: hm maybe stack-alignment issues? |
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| 16:13.15 | LeTama | Kensan: I don't know... |
| 16:20.16 | Kensan | LeTama: maybe this is related: http://sourceware.org/ml/libc-ports/2009-10/msg00028.html ? |
| 16:20.27 | Kensan | mind you, I am just randomly guessing basically ;) |
| 16:20.54 | Unknownforce | new here, hi and all that... question... on the battery meter for rhodium, is the only problem with it the "correction" calculations (much like the fix in htc_battery_smem.c for the topaz) or is it even reading from the battery properly? |
| 16:21.04 | dcordes | Kensan, thanks for the assistance. I'm not the best person to ask though |
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| 16:25.11 | Kensan | dcordes: well, I am basically just "brainstorming" and guessing randomly so I doubt it's much help... |
| 16:25.19 | Wout` | does anyone have a link to a version of the htc ime apk that works on rhod? |
| 16:25.26 | dcordes | I guess every thought on this is helpful |
| 16:25.56 | LeTama | Kensan, I have no clue either. Do you think it could explain that static crashes and not dynamic ? |
| 16:26.21 | [acl] | Wout: ime on aosp? |
| 16:26.39 | Kensan | LeTama: well it could be if it was the other way around (statically fine, dynamicall crashing)... |
| 16:27.08 | Wout` | [acl]: trying to get the htc keyboard on android 2.01 aosp |
| 16:27.20 | Kensan | LeTama: but I suspect it's an issue with the stack or the layout of the stack |
| 16:27.25 | Kensan | or something along these lines |
| 16:27.34 | Kensan | LeTama: I don't know enough about ARM though... |
| 16:27.47 | dcordes | Wout`, maybe it's best to ask in some #android channel where more people deal with these things |
| 16:28.05 | [acl] | Wout: i think i have it here. Let me see if i can quicly upload it. I'm not sure it it will work on aosp but worth a try. |
| 16:28.20 | Wout` | dcordes: i've found apk's, but they don't seem to work on aosp afaik |
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| 16:29.24 | [acl] | Wout: give this bad boy a try. Hope it works. http://hotfile.com/dl/42721445/87db1d5/HTC_IME.apk.html |
| 16:29.34 | Wout` | thx [acl] |
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| 16:31.21 | [acl] | Wout: this one is also one that was modified from the Desire. http://hotfile.com/dl/42721694/d1e0c7c/htc_ime_hires_custom_settings13.zip.html |
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| 16:36.24 | LeTama | Kensan: Don't know much about arm either. ARM is quite complex... |
| 16:36.58 | Khaytsus | Does charging while booting matter anykmore (XDAroid on Rhodium) |
| 16:37.04 | Wout` | hmm, [acl], it force closes on me |
| 16:37.20 | [acl] | try the other one then. Sorry i forgot which one is the one that works |
| 16:38.02 | Wout` | waiting for the 30min hotfile limit :P |
| 16:38.31 | Khaytsus | erm, guess it doesn't matter.. latest rootfs crashed first thing :/ |
| 16:40.50 | phh | Khaytsus: crashed what ? |
| 16:43.11 | Khaytsus | phh: I updated rootfs from yesterday, booted up into Android and I think about when it should have been up (launcher) it rebooted |
| 16:43.17 | Khaytsus | It's booting again to watch it closer |
| 16:47.48 | phh | Captnoord: why did you remove the GPIO stuff in diamond panel ? |
| 16:49.53 | Captnoord | phh because it was crap |
| 16:49.56 | Captnoord | it simulated i2c |
| 16:50.00 | Captnoord | in other words |
| 16:50.01 | hamagc | Captnoord: did you make changes to the dpad config? i have noticed less issues with it. lastnight i THINK it happened but it appeared to fix itself. happened so fast i couldn't tell what really happened lol. |
| 16:50.04 | Captnoord | it didn't do shit |
| 16:50.25 | phh | Captnoord: ok, any idea about the panel regression for diamond then ? |
| 16:50.36 | Captnoord | phh is there? |
| 16:50.37 | Captnoord | okey |
| 16:50.42 | phh | Captnoord: panel stays on. |
| 16:50.46 | Captnoord | stays on |
| 16:50.48 | Captnoord | hmmmmm |
| 16:50.49 | Captnoord | wierd |
| 16:51.52 | phh | (transflective screen helps detecting that :p) |
| 16:52.05 | Captnoord | hmmmmm |
| 16:52.14 | Captnoord | then I suggest you put the gpio shit back and verify |
| 16:52.24 | Captnoord | I will try to find a sollution in the meanwhile |
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| 16:52.32 | Captnoord | as I don't have a diamond I can't check of course |
| 16:52.39 | phh | Captnoord: raphael should be the same |
| 16:52.50 | Captnoord | maybe |
| 16:52.53 | Captnoord | but mine is off |
| 16:52.55 | Captnoord | :S |
| 16:53.01 | Captnoord | hmmmm |
| 16:53.02 | phh | Captnoord: you didn't change anything else in diamond's panel recently ? |
| 16:53.05 | Captnoord | nope |
| 16:53.21 | Captnoord | hmm maybe i2c gets suspended before the diam panel |
| 16:53.24 | Captnoord | I dind't check that |
| 16:53.43 | phh | and do you know what the "I2C simulation" is supposed to send as message ? |
| 16:53.54 | phh | perhaps we have another unknown I2C device |
| 16:53.58 | Captnoord | dude... nothing |
| 16:54.06 | Captnoord | its a large hack |
| 16:54.13 | Captnoord | it just simulates the i2c clock |
| 16:54.18 | Captnoord | :S |
| 16:55.10 | Captnoord | maybe its the adjusted timing |
| 16:55.41 | threexk | Is there a place to discuss efforts on rooting phones that have not yet been rooted? (Droid Incredible, etc.) |
| 16:55.49 | Unknownforce | does the battery fluctuate a lot under different load levels? I'm testing a "fix" for the rhodium battery meter, and it fluctuates a lot under different load levels. |
| 16:55.54 | phh | #android-root ? |
| 16:56.12 | threexk | cool, I was thinking web, but that works :) |
| 16:56.35 | Captnoord | Unknownforce: yup |
| 16:56.57 | hamagc | has anyone noticed that the performance seems to go down as the battery gets lower? |
| 16:57.04 | phh | hamagc: oO |
| 16:57.07 | Captnoord | phh but if it doesn't go off |
| 16:57.09 | tief | no |
| 16:57.14 | Captnoord | something else is going on |
| 16:57.22 | Captnoord | check the off thing I changed |
| 16:57.22 | hamagc | i'm assuming due to the mmc not getting the voltage to keep up with the processor? |
| 16:57.29 | Captnoord | I only replaced the microp function |
| 16:58.01 | Khaytsus | I think I need to give up on playing with Android today, secondt ime I've booted and it won't go past the dos fsck even though the microsd is clean. |
| 16:58.04 | tief | hamagc: have you actually tested this |
| 16:58.10 | Captnoord | phh brb |
| 16:58.17 | Captnoord | will tackle this in a moment |
| 16:58.18 | Unknownforce | okay so then I have somewhat of a fix for the rhodium battery meter. i'm still testing it, but it seems to be fairly close to accurate, it uses some of the code from the raph corrections |
| 16:58.35 | tief | seems more likely its gonna be something like low battery = long uptime = lots of crap running |
| 16:58.37 | Unknownforce | it's way better than reading 5% all the time. |
| 16:58.43 | hamagc | not sure how to check the voltage. but i have noticed every time my phone is about to die, everything seems to run slower. |
| 16:58.46 | Captnoord | don't use the raph corrections |
| 16:59.07 | phh | Unknownforce: you always read 5% ? |
| 16:59.10 | phh | funny, I don't |
| 16:59.15 | Unknownforce | as I said it uses SOME of the raph corrections, not all of them |
| 16:59.23 | Unknownforce | on the rhodium almost all the time ys |
| 16:59.24 | Unknownforce | yes* |
| 16:59.42 | phh | anyway, Captnoord RE wince's code |
| 16:59.48 | phh | so that'll be fine. |
| 17:00.19 | Unknownforce | ahh damn work, be back in an hour or so |
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| 17:04.03 | dcordes | LeTama, don't know if I suggested this already. did you think about asking about the problem on http://lists.arm.linux.org.uk/lurker/list/linux-arm-kernel.en.html ? |
| 17:10.03 | LeTama | dcordes: you did yes... I felt we didn't have enough info and me enough knowledge to be able to follow |
| 17:11.41 | Wout` | [acl]: the desire one force closes too :/ |
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| 17:11.53 | Wout` | tried about 5 different releases now, think i'll give up |
| 17:12.07 | [acl] | Wout: damn sorry. Now you see why i just decided to run the desire rom :-p |
| 17:12.19 | Wout` | yeah, but it's so slow :P |
| 17:12.50 | [acl] | take out rosie so u can go back to the default launcher. works same way. |
| 17:13.40 | [acl] | Wout: thats what i do. I can pick from the default or rosie or even the nexus one laucher depending on if i want to show off |
| 17:14.00 | Wout` | can you just switch off rosie in klinux' build? |
| 17:14.05 | Kensan | dcordes, LeTama: maybe there's some arm-knowledgable people on #oe? |
| 17:15.00 | [acl] | Wout: not from the one he has. you need to rebuild the system.sqsh |
| 17:15.27 | Wout` | hmm, sounds like a hassle, i'd better just adjust to the std keyb on 2.01 |
| 17:15.39 | [acl] | Wout: haha yeah.. |
| 17:18.23 | dcordes | Kensan, nobody I know personally to ask |
| 17:22.22 | Kensan | dcordes: maybe in #linux? |
| 17:23.02 | Kensan | dcordes: or #elinux? |
| 17:23.39 | Kensan | dcordes: otherwise the arm-kml seems like a good option. |
| 17:23.50 | Kensan | dcordes: those people will have some pointers I reckon |
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| 17:56.38 | phh | LOL |
| 17:56.45 | phh | stupid big endian vs little endian error |
| 17:56.46 | phh | pffff |
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| 18:09.05 | Captnoord | re |
| 18:09.36 | Captnoord | hmmm diamond panel |
| 18:10.00 | phh | mmmm gps rpc code. |
| 18:10.55 | Captnoord | phh don't forget to remove it from the kernel code |
| 18:10.55 | Captnoord | :P |
| 18:11.07 | phh | perhaps |
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| 18:13.22 | phh | ok. my brain is going out. |
| 18:13.24 | phh | uint32_t *data |
| 18:13.32 | phh | data+8; |
| 18:13.39 | phh | that makes &(data[2]) no ? |
| 18:13.54 | phh | in my code it appears to do &(data[8])?!? |
| 18:13.59 | Captnoord | nope |
| 18:14.10 | Captnoord | +8 will do 8x *uint32 |
| 18:14.17 | phh | meeeehhhhhh |
| 18:14.19 | Captnoord | unless you use char* |
| 18:14.24 | Captnoord | which is 8 char's |
| 18:14.37 | phh | it's not logical /o\ |
| 18:14.41 | Captnoord | it is |
| 18:14.42 | Captnoord | :P |
| 18:14.51 | phh | an uint32_t* is just a uint32_t that can be deferenced /o\ |
| 18:15.18 | Captnoord | [20:13] <phh> in my code it appears to do &(data[8])?!? |
| 18:15.20 | Captnoord | thats correct |
| 18:15.38 | phh | that sounds stupid to me, but nvm. |
| 18:16.02 | Captnoord | its a compiler thingy |
| 18:16.21 | Captnoord | same as the vdd thingy we had some time ago |
| 18:16.31 | phh | yeah I remember of it |
| 18:16.35 | phh | I was sure it was the opposite /o\ |
| 18:16.43 | phh | so at the end, &(data[2]); is the ebst |
| 18:16.49 | phh | at least there is no ambigous stuff. |
| 18:17.07 | Captnoord | you can typecast it as struct |
| 18:17.11 | Captnoord | will make your like easier |
| 18:17.18 | Captnoord | like=life |
| 18:17.43 | phh | I still haven't the full struct description |
| 18:17.47 | phh | and I don't really like padding |
| 18:17.56 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 18:17.57 | Captnoord | so true |
| 18:18.45 | Captnoord | booting |
| 18:18.50 | Captnoord | maybe your correct phh |
| 18:18.59 | phh | concerning what ? |
| 18:19.08 | Captnoord | but personaly I think there is no reason for the regression |
| 18:19.11 | Captnoord | diam panel |
| 18:19.14 | phh | Captnoord: panel not sleeping is something reported by users not me :p |
| 18:19.19 | Captnoord | I know |
| 18:19.27 | phh | and I agree, I can't see anything for regression in the recent changes |
| 18:21.39 | Captnoord | it seems pretty sleeping here...... |
| 18:23.06 | Captnoord | hmmm no possibility they are cmda users? |
| 18:24.12 | phh | no gsm has it too |
| 18:24.21 | Captnoord | oO |
| 18:24.45 | Captnoord | and if you check it? |
| 18:24.48 | Captnoord | you have it to |
| 18:25.30 | phh | yes I've seen it yesterday too |
| 18:26.02 | Captnoord | hmmmmm |
| 18:26.03 | Captnoord | wierd |
| 18:26.18 | Captnoord | got a ram console dump from it? |
| 18:26.43 | stinebd | nexus one <3 |
| 18:26.47 | stinebd | so smooth |
| 18:27.39 | phh | stinebd: you got one ? |
| 18:27.55 | stinebd | yeah |
| 18:27.57 | stinebd | just now |
| 18:27.57 | phh | pff |
| 18:28.21 | stinebd | i did it so i can work on my raph without worrying about what i can use to call people |
| 18:28.22 | stinebd | :D |
| 18:28.39 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 18:28.49 | Captnoord | so can you tell me why 2.1 doesn't boot on raph |
| 18:28.50 | Captnoord | :P |
| 18:28.54 | stinebd | not yet |
| 18:29.02 | stinebd | i can't reproduce |
| 18:29.11 | Captnoord | oO |
| 18:29.41 | Captnoord | hmmm time to get a diamond htcnavi.dll |
| 18:29.44 | Captnoord | and microp.dll |
| 18:29.50 | phh | stinebd: well I'll get an acer liquid, but I think the SIM will stay in my rhod |
| 18:29.59 | phh | how can you write SMSes without a keyboard ? :p |
| 18:30.07 | stinebd | swype |
| 18:30.29 | phh | I'll have to try with a capacitive screen, but it didn't convinced me at all. |
| 18:30.37 | stinebd | in my limited use of the OSK with n1, it's been very usable, though |
| 18:31.52 | phh | Captnoord: do we do some stuff on suspend we don't do in early_suspend ? |
| 18:32.22 | Captnoord | you mean panel? |
| 18:32.32 | Captnoord | there isn't a early suspend for panel |
| 18:32.34 | Captnoord | its blank |
| 18:32.36 | Captnoord | and unblank |
| 18:32.42 | Captnoord | we don't use blank |
| 18:32.52 | Captnoord | which we should use... but thats a diff story |
| 18:32.57 | phh | when do we shut down panel then ? |
| 18:33.04 | Captnoord | on power |
| 18:33.07 | Captnoord | as in.... |
| 18:33.14 | Captnoord | when the mddi power is turned off |
| 18:33.25 | Captnoord | htcdiamond_mddi_power_client |
| 18:33.29 | Captnoord | is just the power client |
| 18:33.30 | Captnoord | like in |
| 18:33.33 | Captnoord | on off switch |
| 18:33.43 | Captnoord | .power_client = htcdiamond_mddi_power_client, |
| 18:33.58 | Captnoord | but its wierd that it doesn't turns off |
| 18:34.07 | Captnoord | only possible when i2c is suspended before the panel |
| 18:34.14 | Captnoord | I think |
| 18:34.26 | Captnoord | in a way that will explain the i2c hack |
| 18:35.11 | phh | so that's on early suspend/resume |
| 18:35.17 | phh | (god that was hard to trace in msm video drive)r |
| 18:35.32 | phh | well late resume. |
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| 18:36.00 | Captnoord | not* |
| 18:36.01 | Captnoord | :P |
| 18:36.13 | phh | not what ? |
| 18:36.28 | Captnoord | not hard to get from the disp driver |
| 18:36.37 | phh | well there are many redirections. |
| 18:36.42 | Captnoord | true |
| 18:36.50 | Captnoord | but its rather self explaing |
| 18:36.53 | Captnoord | at least to me |
| 18:37.07 | Captnoord | atm got a raph panel 2 in the queue |
| 18:37.09 | Captnoord | wip |
| 18:37.12 | phh | yes it is, but you have to follow everything. |
| 18:37.14 | Captnoord | doing the blank |
| 18:37.17 | Captnoord | and unblank |
| 18:37.25 | drellisdee | I have a question for kernel devs if we from the imagio/whitestone community were to donate a whitestone device to HTC-Linux could you work on it to include it in the common device kernel? |
| 18:38.20 | phh | I'm not sure what whitestone is |
| 18:38.29 | Captnoord | blackstone..... |
| 18:38.33 | phh | cdma blackstone ? |
| 18:38.33 | Captnoord | variant |
| 18:38.52 | phh | hum no it looks like topaz |
| 18:39.36 | drellisdee | I had it booting android 2.0 with topaz mytpe in nov but will not boot on kernels since then |
| 18:40.04 | phh | different panel then |
| 18:40.21 | drellisdee | http://www.htc.com/us/products/imagio-verizon?view=1-1&sort=0#tech-specs |
| 18:40.28 | phh | drellisdee: this won't need big work, no need to donate I'd say |
| 18:40.36 | phh | well, perhaps bzo would take it :p |
| 18:40.48 | Captnoord | at least we need people to debug / test |
| 18:41.28 | phh | drellisdee: yup sounds like all normal device, should be easy |
| 18:41.34 | phh | just need testers like Captnoord says. |
| 18:42.19 | phh | drellisdee: no need to pm for that |
| 18:42.26 | drellisdee | ah ok |
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| 18:43.07 | phh | drellisdee: anyway, at first sight it really don't need a device donation |
| 18:43.19 | drellisdee | I'll open a thread asking for testers and I'll use mine too. What info if any might you need? |
| 18:43.40 | phh | just tests for starters :p |
| 18:44.08 | Captnoord | hmmm |
| 18:44.10 | Captnoord | phh need togo |
| 18:44.20 | Captnoord | maybe its interesting to check what suspends first |
| 18:44.21 | Captnoord | panel |
| 18:44.22 | Captnoord | or |
| 18:44.23 | Captnoord | i2c |
| 18:44.24 | phh | drellisdee: topaz mtype vibrates ? |
| 18:44.27 | phh | Captnoord: panel |
| 18:44.31 | phh | i2c is suspend |
| 18:44.34 | phh | panel is early suspend |
| 18:44.48 | Captnoord | your sure |
| 18:44.55 | phh | for i2c no. |
| 18:44.56 | Captnoord | because that can be my only explaination |
| 18:45.08 | drellisdee | yes it boot then hangs rpcpanel 120 secs |
| 18:45.09 | Captnoord | I removed i2c from wakeup source |
| 18:45.22 | phh | Captnoord: there is just no suspend for i2c |
| 18:45.26 | phh | clocks are on/off on need. |
| 18:45.30 | Captnoord | true true |
| 18:45.32 | Captnoord | thats true |
| 18:45.33 | phh | drellisdee: oh so panel works ? |
| 18:45.34 | hamagc | phh, what kernal do you prefer people to use? glemsom or balsat? |
| 18:45.36 | Captnoord | I did that patch |
| 18:45.42 | phh | hamagc: glemsom |
| 18:45.51 | hamagc | ok |
| 18:45.53 | phh | Captnoord: right :p |
| 18:46.09 | phh | drellisdee: ok, so screenshot of what happens |
| 18:46.20 | drellisdee | mtype 2292 and 2293 get to rootfs in haret and hangs kk will screen shot |
| 18:46.36 | phh | to rootfs ? wow that means SD card works too |
| 18:46.43 | phh | I can't see what can go wrong then |
| 18:47.18 | drellisdee | is there a way to dump haret log? |
| 18:47.30 | phh | it's not haret, it's kernel /o\ |
| 18:47.32 | phh | and yes there is |
| 18:47.35 | phh | I have to reenable it. |
| 18:49.24 | phh | pushed. |
| 18:49.29 | phh | ~ramconsole |
| 18:49.29 | apt | rumour has it, ramconsole is pwf dm 0x8e0000 0x20000 |
| 18:49.40 | phh | you get kernel messages with that in haret |
| 18:50.07 | phh | YAY \o/ |
| 18:50.09 | phh | my gps code works |
| 18:50.14 | phh | well |
| 18:50.15 | phh | better. |
| 18:50.54 | phh | now needs to wait for a fix. |
| 18:52.05 | phh | MEEEEEHHHH |
| 18:52.09 | phh | A9 killed :( |
| 18:53.33 | hamagc | anything on gps for cdma? |
| 18:53.51 | phh | hamagc: some progress. |
| 18:53.57 | phh | I've quite everything but position and speed :p |
| 18:54.00 | drellisdee | gets to switching to rootfs... then loops task rpcrouter: 15 blocked 120sec and loops |
| 18:54.06 | hamagc | ohh? i like that |
| 18:54.23 | Captnoord | phh I will add checks and shit later tonight |
| 18:54.25 | Captnoord | need togo |
| 18:54.33 | phh | Captnoord: ok |
| 18:54.42 | phh | drellisdee: ah so MMC doesn't work. |
| 18:54.48 | phh | drellisdee: hum snapshot ? |
| 18:55.02 | phh | hamagc: it's useful for gsm users too ;) |
| 18:55.03 | drellisdee | having a friend email it to me |
| 18:56.28 | hamagc | good deal, if you need me to test anything out, just let me know. currently i'm running tests on the cdma aio pkg to try to limit the surge of people with bootloops |
| 18:57.49 | phh | groumpf my tests programs aren't suited for 6150 |
| 19:00.24 | hamagc | 6150? |
| 19:00.29 | phh | your amss. |
| 19:00.39 | hamagc | you mean 6850? |
| 19:00.42 | phh | ?!? |
| 19:00.45 | phh | yours is 6850 ? |
| 19:00.48 | phh | I'd bet it's 6150 |
| 19:01.10 | hamagc | hrmm |
| 19:02.08 | hamagc | sprint htc 6850 touch pro |
| 19:02.31 | phh | that's not AMSS :p |
| 19:02.37 | hamagc | doh! |
| 19:04.11 | hamagc | n/m, 6150 |
| 19:04.34 | phh | well that's not actually amss version, more something like amss protocol |
| 19:04.35 | phh | but nvm. |
| 19:06.16 | drellisdee | I'll need to screen shot with a camera from home 3mp palm pre didn't give readable results. The mmcblkp01 mounted correctly |
| 19:06.33 | hamagc | lol well it's not the 5200 |
| 19:06.56 | phh | hamagc: 5225 is gsm TP/TD |
| 19:07.13 | hamagc | whats the 6550? |
| 19:08.02 | phh | this one is unknown |
| 19:08.07 | phh | perhaps not wince |
| 19:08.29 | phh | does it exist ? :p |
| 19:09.10 | hamagc | i'm seeing Qualcomm AMSS MSM6250A mobiles and qualcomm msm6550/6150 |
| 19:10.06 | hamagc | bah, lunch time. be back in a few. |
| 19:10.24 | phh | lol |
| 19:10.29 | phh | MSM6250 is a chip |
| 19:10.32 | phh | a prehistoric one. |
| 19:11.09 | phh | yay \o/ |
| 19:11.17 | phh | I kill android as soon as I get a fixed satellite |
| 19:11.21 | phh | god knows how. |
| 19:12.16 | phh | yay code handles only 16 tokens and GSV has >20 |
| 19:21.00 | phh | mais je ne le dirais pas parce que je suis gentil. |
| 19:22.00 | drellisdee | phh http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2250/11003579/23214298/387111438.jpg |
| 19:22.11 | phh | (wrong chan uh ?) |
| 19:22.12 | drellisdee | http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2250/11003579/23214298/387111426.jpg |
| 19:22.34 | phh | without the white stuff preventing me from reading ? :p |
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| 19:22.57 | stinebd | time to revamp the ril/hw/libh_l build bot |
| 19:23.08 | phh | stinebd: yeah I think I'm done with the massive commits. |
| 19:23.12 | stinebd | finally get it updated to xdaosp's repo |
| 19:23.30 | phh | almost. |
| 19:24.04 | stinebd | i love knowing how this stuff works now. makes it much easier to get stuff done. |
| 19:24.25 | phh | android build system ? |
| 19:24.33 | stinebd | and repo |
| 19:24.44 | tmzt | stinebd: what are you doing with ril/libhardware? |
| 19:25.07 | stinebd | nothing with ril, that's already done. i'm setting up a libhardware_legacy autobuilder now. |
| 19:28.11 | phh | tmzt: we have our own tree for them, so we need autobuilders for them |
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| 19:30.19 | tmzt | no more adapting kernel for android, now adapting android for kernel ? |
| 19:30.28 | tmzt | where is this tree? |
| 19:31.06 | drellisdee | phh here are better ones |
| 19:31.08 | drellisdee | http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2250/11003579/23214298/387111805.jpg |
| 19:31.09 | phh | same place as usual |
| 19:31.12 | phh | http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm |
| 19:31.17 | drellisdee | http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2250/11003579/23214298/387111774.jpg |
| 19:32.11 | phh | OUCH |
| 19:34.33 | phh | see the line after dosfsck blabla ? |
| 19:34.42 | phh | with Unhandled fault |
| 19:34.48 | phh | that one sounds REALLY funny. |
| 19:35.00 | drellisdee | yeah i see it |
| 19:35.06 | dcordes | drellisdee, what's that device? |
| 19:35.17 | drellisdee | whitestone |
| 19:35.38 | phh | drellisdee: can you check if that happens on many whitestones not just yours ? |
| 19:35.41 | phh | could be broken SD |
| 19:35.57 | phh | hum no can't be |
| 19:36.00 | phh | well check. |
| 19:36.08 | drellisdee | will do ill try another sd |
| 19:36.21 | phh | that works too. |
| 19:36.48 | dcordes | whitestone is cdma blac? |
| 19:36.53 | phh | dcordes: lol |
| 19:36.57 | phh | same thought as me. |
| 19:37.09 | phh | dcordes: no it looks like a cdma topaz |
| 19:37.11 | phh | but it's not. |
| 19:37.20 | drellisdee | no its msm 7600 more similair to rhodw then anything else |
| 19:37.25 | stinebd | oh nice, ramconsole is back |
| 19:37.29 | phh | stinebd: :p |
| 19:37.33 | phh | for drellisdee :p |
| 19:37.43 | stinebd | not for me? |
| 19:37.50 | phh | stinebd: bah if you want it you can use it. |
| 19:37.53 | stinebd | :D |
| 19:37.54 | dcordes | With the HTC Imagioâ¢, it's like having your TV and your computer in your pocket. Use your big screen anywhereâwhether typing or talking, watching or working. |
| 19:37.56 | tmzt | so this is just android libhardware with minor changes? |
| 19:38.23 | tmzt | yeah, it's a rhod-w topaz |
| 19:38.25 | phh | tmzt: minor like full gps driver, full sensors driver, and fixed wifi for TI and broadcom. |
| 19:38.41 | tmzt | okay, didn't see those in the log |
| 19:39.38 | dcordes | drellisdee, ah ok. I like the built in stand |
| 19:39.41 | phh | well there is libhardware and libhardware_legacy |
| 19:41.01 | drellisdee | same unhandled fault on new sd |
| 19:41.13 | phh | drellisdee: cool. |
| 19:41.16 | phh | no clue. |
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| 19:51.06 | stinebd | i have to get all my old ring tones on this thing |
| 19:51.36 | cmg29 | just wondering cause I've never seen it mentioned...is keyboard/button backlighting for rhod-w something that might come in the future? |
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| 19:54.52 | phh | cmg29: that's far from being a priority |
| 19:54.53 | phh | but why not |
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| 19:56.33 | hamagc | stinebd: no more ril changes? i know we're still having issues with the ril for picmail on cdma (sptin) |
| 19:56.39 | hamagc | sptin=sprint |
| 19:58.47 | tmzt | it's just through microp |
| 19:58.57 | tmzt | wouldn't tracing i2c me enough? |
| 19:59.08 | tmzt | how is the overall android/phone working on rhodw now? |
| 20:01.37 | cmg29 | lovely! |
| 20:01.39 | cmg29 | lol |
| 20:01.53 | cmg29 | I've been using it 95% of the time for the last two weeks I'd say |
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| 20:02.34 | tmzt | full phone support? full internet? sms? |
| 20:02.37 | Khaytsus | I use it quite a lot myself... Sound for hearing phone calls and other alerts would be nice, and when the GPS is polished that'll be awesome :) |
| 20:02.48 | hamagc | ok, after testing and testing and testing, i have come to the conclusion that most current bootloops are zimage and mods. downloaded makks aio pkg for a fresh boot, got bootloop. replaced only zimage and mods, and it booted. fyi. |
| 20:02.50 | tmzt | vibra is enough for me, it's all I use anyway |
| 20:02.55 | cmg29 | phh: yeah, I figured it wasn't a priority, I was just curious as to if it was a "Oh, that'll never happen because..." or a just a regular non-priority lol |
| 20:03.04 | Khaytsus | tmzt: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627997 |
| 20:03.19 | phh | Khaytsus: yeah GPS is killing me. |
| 20:03.24 | cmg29 | Yep, full phone, internet, sms...no issues with any of that |
| 20:03.27 | phh | it's crashing from every side. |
| 20:03.31 | Khaytsus | tmzt: Bluetooth, sound (except earpiece), camera, opengles, battery meter are not working, rest is |
| 20:03.44 | cmg29 | ^^ what he said :) |
| 20:03.44 | Khaytsus | phh: I'm not trying to pester you, promise. |
| 20:04.10 | tmzt | that's really all I need |
| 20:04.19 | tmzt | how does it handle shutdown on low battery? |
| 20:04.27 | Khaytsus | wonders if he should try to enable GPS on this fresh build install from files he grabbed a few hours ago ;) |
| 20:04.28 | phh | it doesn't ? |
| 20:04.35 | phh | Khaytsus: no. |
| 20:04.45 | stinebd | damn android build system |
| 20:04.51 | phh | stinebd: lol |
| 20:04.52 | stinebd | doesn't like symlinks |
| 20:05.16 | phh | use hardlinks :p |
| 20:05.22 | stinebd | for a directory? |
| 20:05.26 | Khaytsus | phh: heh, okay :) |
| 20:05.27 | phh | why not ? |
| 20:09.10 | tmzt | anyway to bypass the startup wizard or work without a touchscreen? |
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| 20:16.12 | Khaytsus | Are there any Android devices without a touchscreen? :) |
| 20:17.07 | phh | Khaytsus: android capable ones, yes. |
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| 20:26.59 | Khaytsus | I've seen some mixed rumours that AT&T is now getting the Desire but it's in the Oct timeframe. |
| 20:27.21 | Khaytsus | So I guess I'll be here playing with it on my Rhodium for a while yet |
| 20:28.47 | phh | :) |
| 20:31.21 | Khaytsus | One part of me says Nexus One, it'll get Froyo the soonest, it's the most flexible |
| 20:31.27 | Khaytsus | The other half of me for some reason adores Sense |
| 20:31.55 | Khaytsus | Anywho, has nothing to do with this channel I guess :) |
| 20:32.14 | Khaytsus | Besides it'll be interesting to see what Froyo does on Rhodium etc |
| 20:33.01 | cmg29 | <-- 4 weeks, 1 day until the Evo :) then bye-bye rhod |
| 20:33.07 | phh | Khaytsus: you can test it ? :p |
| 20:33.42 | Khaytsus | phh: 2.2 is available already? |
| 20:33.48 | phh | Khaytsus: leak image |
| 20:33.57 | phh | ah for rhod ? |
| 20:34.00 | phh | needs to be ported |
| 20:34.06 | Khaytsus | Yeah, Rhod |
| 20:34.11 | phh | should be straightforward with all our rootfs stuff |
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| 20:37.05 | cmg29 | phh: nice!!! |
| 20:37.13 | phh | cmg29: ? |
| 20:37.29 | hamagc | i thought the 2.2 was an emulator only?!? there is a leaked version out??! time to google! |
| 20:37.44 | cmg29 | froyo "phh: should be straightforward with all our rootfs stuff" |
| 20:37.49 | phh | ah. |
| 20:37.55 | cmg29 | delayed reaction |
| 20:37.56 | cmg29 | lol |
| 20:37.57 | phh | hamagc: that's what I heard at least |
| 20:38.07 | phh | cmg29: well I don't know the changes of froyo. |
| 20:38.10 | Wout | froyo is gonna rock |
| 20:38.38 | Wout | Dalvik JIT, auto updating from the market, builtin tehtering en wifi hotspot |
| 20:38.57 | phh | Wout: I don't think we will get apropriate firmware for that one. |
| 20:39.28 | Wout | what do you mean? |
| 20:39.38 | hamagc | lol there is no froyo yet, all i am seeing are april fools jokes that it's been released. |
| 20:39.40 | phh | SoftAP needs apropriate firmware |
| 20:40.19 | Wout | ah, well thats the feature I'm least interested in. Dalvik JIT and new market sound pretty good |
| 20:40.31 | phh | right. |
| 20:42.35 | hamagc | though i don't know why it isn't leaked yet. the dell phone with it has been leaked. doesn't look like anyone pulled the system off of it yet though. |
| 20:43.11 | hamagc | n/m, specs were leaked |
| 20:43.39 | phh | really ? |
| 20:43.44 | phh | so does it have app2sd ? |
| 20:43.55 | Wout | i might get hold of it next week |
| 20:44.29 | Wout | dont think i'll be in a position to dump it though |
| 20:44.41 | phh | pfff |
| 20:45.09 | phh | Wout: on which phone ? |
| 20:45.16 | Wout | nexus |
| 20:46.40 | phh | uh ? |
| 20:46.41 | phh | how ? |
| 20:46.47 | phh | you know someone working @ goog;e ? |
| 20:46.48 | phh | google* |
| 20:47.04 | Wout | adobe, showing off flash, and its reported thats being built into 2.2 |
| 20:47.07 | Wout | and not coming to 2.1 |
| 20:47.12 | Wout | nothing confirmed though |
| 20:47.37 | Wout | but lately, when adobe has been demoing flash for android it's been on 2.2 roms |
| 20:49.29 | hamagc | ya everything i've seen from adobe has been 2.2 |
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| 21:02.06 | dcordes | LeTama, is there anything we can try now? |
| 21:12.13 | chamonix | <= phh> chamonix: did you implement something to do "on changing position" stuff ? <-- yes, I wrote a prototype for switching profiles automatically when I enter my home zone of office zone e.g. |
| 21:38.45 | phh | chamonix: not in commandcenter? |
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| 21:40.05 | chamonix | nope, that app is not public yet because it's a collection of tests with and without google API for location stuff |
| 21:41.38 | chamonix | but if you need something for testing any specific feature be my guest |
| 21:42.53 | phh | OKAY. |
| 21:43.02 | phh | I definitely think I'll use libgps. |
| 21:43.12 | phh | I've no clue how to do an NMEA parser. |
| 21:45.18 | Unknownforce | for anyone that cares... here's a "hacky" battery meter fix for rhodium, I just guessed at some numbers... so it's not extremely accurate, but it's close and wayyy better than it currently is... http://pastie.org/959387 |
| 21:45.42 | Unknownforce | it also puts the temp a little closer to accurate too |
| 21:45.59 | chamonix | phh: what r u missing? the glue btwn Gps filesystem and userland? |
| 21:46.43 | Unknownforce | I left the old code in but commented out. |
| 21:49.36 | phh | chamonix: filesystem ? |
| 21:49.50 | phh | chamonix: basically I've NMEA (standard ascii protocol for gps) and I want to put that in android. |
| 21:51.23 | chamonix | http://developer.android.com/intl/zh-CN/reference/android/location/GpsStatus.NmeaListener.html |
| 21:51.29 | chamonix | :) |
| 21:52.42 | Captnoord | re |
| 21:53.07 | chamonix | hey Captnoord |
| 21:53.37 | Captnoord | yo chamonix |
| 21:53.41 | chamonix | Captnoord: the battery commit of 20100510 didn't improve the battery life, at least not under my test conditions |
| 21:53.49 | Captnoord | okey |
| 21:54.07 | Captnoord | then its panel code that needs the love |
| 21:54.22 | Captnoord | which i'm working on |
| 21:54.25 | Captnoord | but its going slow |
| 21:55.10 | chamonix | no problem, whenever u need some testing just tell me, my phone (brick for now) is happy to help :) |
| 21:55.17 | Captnoord | Unknownforce: rhod battery stuff is totaly different from raph's |
| 21:55.24 | Captnoord | that you get readings > 5% |
| 21:55.30 | Captnoord | doesn't say its accurate |
| 21:55.32 | Captnoord | or |
| 21:55.35 | Captnoord | even usefull |
| 21:56.21 | chamonix | Captnoord I must say that commit I mentioned was better from the point of view of a more linear decreast fo the meter |
| 21:56.23 | Captnoord | its even better todo it the linear way |
| 21:56.27 | chamonix | s/st/se |
| 21:56.35 | Captnoord | yea |
| 21:56.42 | Captnoord | I added voltage reading avaraging |
| 21:56.55 | Captnoord | simple moving avarage filter |
| 21:56.58 | chamonix | it ended at 5% after 15 hours instead of 5 |
| 21:57.08 | Captnoord | nice |
| 21:57.45 | chamonix | and today it reached the first warning at about 16 hrs |
| 21:57.56 | Captnoord | hmmmm |
| 21:57.57 | Captnoord | good |
| 21:58.01 | Captnoord | at least the idea is good |
| 21:58.06 | chamonix | right |
| 21:58.09 | phh | chamonix: we can send nmea |
| 21:58.18 | phh | but apps won't use it if they don't want to |
| 21:58.38 | Captnoord | but the raph battery code is just one hell of a complicated shit |
| 22:00.38 | chamonix | phh: there are 2 ways for apps to use gps as far as I understood... a) using the NMEA listener, or using the classical location provider (like with tower loc) but specifying "fine" instead of "coarse" location either as a requirement or as a preference.... that's the way the non-google api handles it |
| 22:00.59 | Unknownforce | Captnoord: I understand that, but the rhod's battery meter as the current code is doesn't read correctly at all, on a full charge it will say anywhere from 5-40% no higher, no lower, most of the time it's about15% the way I have it, it can at least be useful to the point that it will tell you that you're battery is somewhat CLOSE to dying or has somewhat CLOSE to a full charge. |
| 22:01.19 | phh | chamonix: I know |
| 22:01.25 | Captnoord | I understand |
| 22:01.33 | Captnoord | but the code your messing with |
| 22:01.38 | phh | chamonix: but NmeaListener and location provider are bouth passthrough |
| 22:01.44 | Captnoord | matches a certain hw design |
| 22:01.49 | Captnoord | with a diff hw |
| 22:01.50 | tmzt | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6470729 |
| 22:01.55 | Captnoord | there is different implementation |
| 22:01.56 | phh | chamonix: if we code nmealistener but not location provider, apps relying on location provider won't work |
| 22:02.11 | Captnoord | Unknownforce: for example |
| 22:02.13 | Captnoord | the rhod uses |
| 22:02.14 | Captnoord | temp = dRaw_temp / ( 4096.0 - dRaw_temp ); |
| 22:02.20 | Captnoord | as a ADC correction model |
| 22:02.32 | Captnoord | this applies to voltage as it does to temp |
| 22:02.51 | chamonix | phh: sure, so basically we need an underlying NDK layer complying to SDK standard API |
| 22:02.52 | Captnoord | in the case of voltage is would be something like |
| 22:03.02 | phh | chamonix: muh ? |
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| 22:03.05 | Captnoord | temp = ( 4096.0 - x ) / x; |
| 22:03.30 | aatreya | can you confirm that GPS is still not yet fixed for the RAPH800? |
| 22:03.31 | Unknownforce | I understand |
| 22:03.40 | Captnoord | I haven't looked into the matter because of my search of decreasing the drain on the battery |
| 22:03.51 | Captnoord | you know a bit or 2 about asm |
| 22:03.56 | Captnoord | you could use ida |
| 22:04.04 | Captnoord | and load the rhod battery.dll |
| 22:04.19 | Captnoord | as all the math on how todo the convertion is in the dll |
| 22:04.23 | Unknownforce | I know a little anyways |
| 22:04.52 | Captnoord | arm asm is way diff than x86 |
| 22:05.13 | Captnoord | you should have the arm.com site for lookups always open |
| 22:05.21 | chamonix | phh: for every piece of IO there are some underlying native layers deliverying the data from/to userland.... if u have those layers (JRIL e.g.) android understands RIL, if not it won't work. now the question is what do we miss regarding GPS? |
| 22:05.27 | Unknownforce | I'll check that out. But is there some kind of "spec sheet" or something I could look at on the battery specs? for formulae like u just mention? |
| 22:05.44 | phh | chamonix: translating NMEA to LocationProvider infos. |
| 22:05.55 | Captnoord | Unknownforce: if there was some kind of spec sheet |
| 22:05.57 | Unknownforce | or is it all just pulling directly from the dll |
| 22:06.01 | Captnoord | I wouldn't need to reverse it |
| 22:06.11 | Unknownforce | gotcha. |
| 22:06.12 | chamonix | ok, so let's go check the NDK |
| 22:06.33 | Captnoord | and sure... there are people way better at reversing |
| 22:06.41 | Captnoord | but its kinda getting to be a lost art |
| 22:07.02 | Unknownforce | I don't know much about arm asm, but I'm a quick study.. |
| 22:07.51 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 22:08.18 | Unknownforce | Thanks for the info though. |
| 22:08.40 | Captnoord | btw if your getting raw numbers on the float math functions |
| 22:08.48 | Captnoord | ./ double math functions |
| 22:09.08 | Captnoord | you can use something like this |
| 22:09.08 | Captnoord | void print_double(unsigned int a, unsigned int b) |
| 22:09.08 | Captnoord | { |
| 22:09.08 | Captnoord | double number; |
| 22:09.08 | Captnoord | unsigned int * pNumber = (unsigned int *)&number; |
| 22:09.09 | Captnoord | pNumber[0] = a; |
| 22:09.09 | Captnoord | pNumber[1] = b; |
| 22:09.10 | Captnoord | printf("%u, %u = %32.32Lf\n", a, b, number); |
| 22:09.10 | Captnoord | } |
| 22:09.15 | Captnoord | to read the double from it |
| 22:09.51 | Captnoord | a: 0x40B00000 |
| 22:09.54 | Captnoord | b: 0 |
| 22:09.57 | Captnoord | for examoke |
| 22:09.59 | Captnoord | ple |
| 22:10.04 | Captnoord | of was it switched |
| 22:10.08 | Captnoord | can't rememnber |
| 22:10.10 | Captnoord | remember |
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| 22:10.29 | Captnoord | but its usefull |
| 22:10.29 | Captnoord | also |
| 22:10.53 | Captnoord | if you got the number |
| 22:10.59 | Captnoord | use http://www.wolframalpha.com/ to search for it |
| 22:11.07 | Captnoord | sometimes its a known constant |
| 22:11.35 | Captnoord | like 0.003354016 = 1.0/(273.15 + 25.0) |
| 22:11.47 | Captnoord | 273.15 == kelvin |
| 22:11.55 | Captnoord | 25 is the termistor offset |
| 22:11.59 | Captnoord | aka working point |
| 22:12.36 | Unknownforce | Makes sense, I'll have to mess around with it |
| 22:14.19 | Captnoord | Unknownforce: you know a bit or 2 about circuits? |
| 22:14.23 | Captnoord | electronics? |
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| 23:16.06 | jonpry | hi all |
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| 23:23.26 | hamagc | hi jonpry! |
| 23:25.24 | jonpry | any news? |
| 23:25.59 | hamagc | i've been in and out but nothing new from what i've seen. every seems busy though lol |
| 23:28.23 | majster | don't know how but it looks like power_off works just need to be changed back from resetart... ( http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/commit/e6785d034370095ce9247e94fd2e4f9e2fd53ed4 ) tested on rhod |
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| 23:32.28 | hamagc | after updating the kernal, should we be rebuilding the data.img? or will new functions work out of the box? |
| 23:38.29 | hamagc | and is there a difference in the kernal from googlecode.com and glemsom? |
| 23:46.33 | jonpry | for rhobuntu? |
| 23:47.26 | hamagc | for xdandroid |
| 23:48.12 | jonpry | there is kernel on googlecode? |
| 23:48.23 | hamagc | i saw someone post a link to the googlecode kernal for eclair and it looks older than the glemsom kernal |
| 23:48.32 | hamagc | ya thats what i said, let me link it |
| 23:48.39 | hamagc | http://zimages.googlecode.com/svn/autobuild_system/htc-msm-android/zImage-modules-20100510_221351.tar |
| 23:53.46 | majster | glemsom googlecode.com.... exactly the same thing.... isn't it ? |
| 23:55.46 | jonpry | looks like it |
| 23:56.07 | majster | it is |
| 23:57.40 | hamagc | samething? |
| 23:57.58 | hamagc | ok, just making sure someone on xda isn't mixing and matching from different devs |
