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02:04.05jonpryphh: i have the same problem. can't get a fix anymore. works fine on winmo.
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02:08.31obelisk79anyone available to help me figure out a kernel compile error?
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02:10.14tmztwhose source are you using?
02:10.18obelisk79pokes ToAsTcfh
02:10.23tmztjust post your question somebody will see it
02:10.28tmztpaste
02:10.33obelisk79ok
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02:12.40obelisk79when compiling my kernel I get the following error: /drivers/mmc/card/sdio_emapi_util.c:418: undefined reference to `get_wifi_nvs_ram'
02:12.51obelisk79anyone have an idea of how to fix that?
02:18.11jonprysomebody else was getting that error when they were trying to upgrade to 2.6.29
02:19.44obelisk79yeah, I've taken the 2.6.29 eris source and ported the 2.6.27 hero bits into it... after taking a look through the device specific source files from each build everything looks like it should work
02:20.30jonpryyour using the sdio_emapi_util.c from 2.6.29?
02:20.31obelisk79but I get that error each time. I know the value is defined in /arch/arm/mach-msm/htc_wifi_nvs.c
02:21.01obelisk79the stdio_emapi_util.c from 2.6.29 is identical from the one in 2.6.27
02:21.11obelisk79but yes
02:22.59jonpryis that a compiler or linker error?
02:23.35ToAsTcfhwhat device
02:24.36obelisk79htc hero
02:24.46ToAsTcfhgsm
02:24.55obelisk79cdma
02:25.05ToAsTcfhoh
02:25.06obelisk79I think it's a compiler error
02:25.11obelisk79not linker
02:25.19ToAsTcfhherm
02:26.08jonprycan you pastebin the build messages?
02:26.17obelisk79already working on it
02:26.26ToAsTcfh.29 im guessing
02:26.44obelisk79attempting .29
02:26.47obelisk79http://pastebin.com/vsBK8N9Z
02:26.50tmztthat's a linker error, but it's more of a user thing
02:26.53tmztusage thing
02:27.25ToAsTcfhive already finished it
02:27.30ToAsTcfh:D
02:27.53obelisk79what am I missing in the puzzle?
02:27.58obelisk79and I'm jealous btw
02:28.20obelisk79:)
02:28.29ToAsTcfhi had to change a few things
02:28.45obelisk79you get full device functionality?
02:28.50ToAsTcfhyep
02:28.59ToAsTcfhsource will be out soon
02:29.01ToAsTcfh:P
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02:29.14ToAsTcfhive been finished for 3 days
02:29.23obelisk79dang, always one step ahead of the rest
02:29.31obelisk79you put in the cpu scaling patch also?
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02:42.03tmztToAsTcfh: it's not in git?
02:42.23ToAsTcfhnot yet
02:42.33ToAsTcfhi just finished cleaning it up
02:42.48ToAsTcfhwell still cleaning out all my comments
02:42.49ToAsTcfhlol
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05:55.14parmasterwow wired is finally writing about this
06:15.05ToAsTcfhwhat
06:22.41parmasterdo-it-yourself linux/android on various handzets
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07:24.09chamonixhey guys
07:24.26phhhey chamonix
07:24.33chamonixhey phh
07:25.09chamonixI reached 25 hrs yesterday but I have to re-run because I inadvertedly attached the phone to USB for 10 minutes within this time
07:25.59chamonixbut I blieve I owe Capnoord a beer or two :)
07:26.08phh10min @ 500mA that makes 90mAh
07:26.19phhthat shound account for less than 10%.
07:26.29phh(and 500mA is optimistic)
07:26.49chamonixyea but I don't like umprecise conds :P
07:27.38chamonixbut I can already tell his changes broke the battery scale
07:28.04chamonixit goes down to 25% in 8 hours
07:28.21chamonixand stays at 5% for 5-6 hours
07:28.32chamonix10 minutes of loading brought it back to 100%
07:29.26chamonixand I'm fed up with having no SIM
07:29.28chamonix:)
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08:14.58Captnoordchamonix: hehe..... you can send them atm to bemmel
08:15.03Captnoordas 'm at a lan
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08:47.26Captnoordchamonix: did the sleep led work during the test?
08:47.29CaptnoordI think I didn't disable it
08:47.48Captnoordwould give you additional hour or 2 or more
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09:42.46chamonixCaptnoord: not during sleep but it lights up from time to time, I guess at transitions
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09:43.47chamonixbut I can turn the blinking off with ledeffects so I'll do so
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09:46.08chamonixCaptnoord: a LAN, u mean where ppl actually meet to sit at their computer? ;)
09:52.46Captnoordyea party
09:55.26chamonix\o/
09:57.54Woutoi
09:59.09Captnoordoi
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11:12.59mickeylGNUtoo: morning
11:13.04GNUtoohi
11:13.25GNUtoomickeyl, how's fso status? you got no time to work on it?
11:13.44GNUtooI'll do some gps testing soon....let me finish something and eat before
11:13.55mickeylyep, this month will only be able to do very little
11:14.02GNUtoook
11:14.02mickeylya, wanted to ask you that
11:14.04mickeylok, bon appetit
11:14.45GNUtooleviathan has disapeared?
11:14.56mickeylno, he's on #openmoko-de
11:14.56KensanGNUtoo: hello
11:14.56GNUtoohi
11:14.56mickeylhe almost gave up with NAND
11:14.56GNUtoook
11:14.56mickeylseems very hard
11:14.56GNUtooah ok
11:14.57mickeyli told him to perhaps look into the other open issues
11:15.05mickeyl(BT, Cam)
11:15.07GNUtoomickeyl, tell him to do xorg rotation
11:15.16mickeylya, good as well
11:15.38GNUtoobecause without that the phone is not very usable
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11:17.22KensanGNUtoo: that's for fbdev right?
11:17.27GNUtoono
11:17.33GNUtooxf86-video-fbdev
11:17.42KensanGNUtoo: yes, that's what I meant.
11:17.44GNUtoook
11:17.46GNUtoosorry then
11:17.59KensanGNUtoo: well sorry for not being clear enough ;)
11:18.18GNUtoonp
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11:41.30shu8iquestion: is the evo 4g screen the same elan screen as the hd2?
11:47.14LeTamashu8i: Not sure, but I think it's not the same chip, source code has different reference
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11:50.20shu8iLeTama: hm... well we've to wait then :) but it sure could help getting the touchscreen drivers working...
11:54.43LeTamashu8i: well, not really, if we can't fix this segmentation fault on user mode, it won't do much
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12:00.13KensanGNUtoo: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=389433
12:00.32KensanGNUtoo: there was an issue with fbdev rotation some time ago which was fixed...
12:00.48KensanGNUtoo: but it seems the driver should properly support rotation
12:02.40GNUtoook with CW?
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12:04.23GNUtooKensan, by rotation I mean dynamic one,like xrandr -o 1
12:04.31GNUtoonot changing xorg.conf
12:04.35GNUtoowhich works but has bugs
12:04.41GNUtoolike exiting when resuming
12:06.11KensanGNUtoo: yeah, I will take a closer look once I finally get my dream...
12:06.19KensanGNUtoo: still waiting :/
12:09.47GNUtoook
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15:19.00zuleanyone here able to tell me where the pthread library is to link to for android?
15:20.20phh<PROTECTED>
15:20.32zuleI mean in the android build tree
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15:20.59phhbionic ?
15:21.09zuleI got the full GIT pull, and am trying to compile a separate app linked to bionic
15:21.10zuleyes
15:21.15zulehere:
15:21.32zuleshadowmite@dm3t:~$ agcc -o gayros gayros.c
15:21.32zule/tmp/cc3nADxk.o: In function `trigger':
15:21.33zulegayros.c:(.text.trigger+0xa8): undefined reference to `clone'
15:21.33zulecollect2: ld returned 1 exit status
15:21.36zuleI need pthread
15:21.44zulebut just adding -lpthread doesn't find it
15:21.55phh???
15:21.56phhclone needs pthread ?
15:22.00zuleI'm a little new to cross compiling
15:22.07zuleok, if not, what does it need?
15:22.08zulelol
15:22.21phhI'd say android just doesn't support it
15:22.35phhclone is a system call anyway
15:22.37zulecrap... it's called in a lot of the bionic .c files though
15:22.52phhreally ?
15:22.53phhweird
15:22.54zuleI'm working with some exploit code. trying to root a device
15:23.06phhman 2 syscall
15:23.06phhiirc.
15:24.35dcordeszule, maybe try #android-root
15:24.57zulethanks guys
15:27.00dcordeszule, hope they can help
15:28.19phhzule: right it's man 2 _syscall actually
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15:46.54AstainHellbringhows it going?
15:54.56mynI ported XDAndroid 2.1 to the vogue
15:55.29mynGonna add some stuff to it to make it faster
15:55.33mynand much nicer looking
15:55.42mynspeed wise it's not bad but there are some tweaks to be done
15:56.50AstainHellbringnice myn
15:56.59AstainHellbringI havent touched my flashed vogue in so long
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16:06.12jonpryi think i set off the sound under linux detector :P. won't boot anymore
16:08.46jonpryhas anyone seen that weird screen with a red,green,blue and white stripes. Gives SPL version and stuff.
16:09.19phhyes
16:10.04jonpryis tha related to sound under linux detection. that thing came up when i rebooted from linux the last time it worked
16:10.18phhhum
16:10.25phhI'm not sure when it appears
16:10.34phhwell it appears when vol down is pressed when booting
16:10.36phhbut not only
16:11.02jonpryright before/after it wipes your sd-card?
16:11.10phhno
16:12.11jonpryseems to do some kind of  hardware testing
16:14.01AstainHellbringthats the bootloader screen
16:15.06jonpryinteresting
16:15.29jonpryphh: you get a fix from gps yet? any idea why it won't work anymore?
16:15.53phhI haven't tried again yet
16:16.10jonpryi downloaded some source for this wince gps software. qlandkarteM
16:16.17jonpryit does not used com4
16:16.59phhah, could help then
16:17.15PSPdemon<jonpry> phh: you get a fix from gps yet? any idea why it won't work anymore?
16:17.29PSPdemongps in winmo doesnt work anymore?
16:17.33jonpryi have not seen anything to suggest com4 works under wince
16:17.38phhPSPdemon: works fine in winmo
16:17.57PSPdemonphh, i was asking if his gps doesnt work anymore in winmo
16:18.05jonpryworks in winmo
16:18.09phhPSPdemon: we're both speaking about linux
16:18.09PSPdemoncause i know mine stopped working after using android
16:18.15PSPdemonahh k phh
16:18.16PSPdemonsorry
16:18.29PSPdemoni was hoping that maybe if someone else had that problem they could tell me if they came up with a fix
16:18.43Captnoordhave you turned off the device completely?
16:18.56phhPSPdemon: how long do you wait ?
16:19.04PSPdemonphh, ive waited up to 30 min
16:19.04phhwith buggy wince it can take a LONG while.
16:19.05PSPdemonlol
16:19.45PSPdemonit does seem that reflashing hardspl fixes
16:19.59PSPdemon( as well as hardreset )
16:20.15jonpryphh: i went through pa_reg,pd_reg,ext_reg, blah blah. no possibilities there. if it can work, it is in get_position()
16:20.17PSPdemonbecause then 8-10 min after i reflash/hardreset it syncs back in
16:20.23PSPdemonand gps works
16:23.14jonpryphh: impossible to debug, even when we could get a fix after 20 minutes
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16:23.27jonpryeasier when it crashed the phone
16:23.44phhlol
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16:33.44Guest95363hi
16:34.38Guest95363this is my first time in here lol, im looking to help dev linux on hd2
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16:44.58Guest95363no hd2 devs in here huh..?
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16:58.56leviathan_GNUtoo: do you also have problems with building OE?
16:59.16GNUtooleviathan_, I didn't upgrade yet,I still have old gcc
16:59.23leviathan_hmmm
16:59.28leviathan_its not that
16:59.34GNUtooin other words I don't have toolchain-desuck changes
16:59.38GNUtoook
16:59.39leviathan_hmm
16:59.40leviathan_oh
16:59.50leviathan_seems to break coreutils-native
16:59.51leviathan_...
16:59.51GNUtooif it's fso no I didn't manage to build it in weeks
17:00.01leviathan_hmm, okee
17:00.20leviathan_btw wifi is getting too warm >_<
17:00.26phhget psm ? :p
17:00.46leviathan_phh: you ment gsm?
17:00.52phhno psm
17:00.57leviathan_whats psm?
17:00.59phhpower whatever management
17:01.00phhfor wifi
17:01.10phhthe thing GNUtoo has been trying to get
17:01.10leviathan_ohhhhhh, ok
17:01.59GNUtooleviathan_, I'll retry when newer compat-wireless will be out
17:02.41Razzeehey, any new clues about freezing at splashscreen?
17:03.14phhRazzee: on the forum they say to use newer rootfs and/or zimage
17:03.44Razzeealways updating zimage
17:03.52Razzeebut there isn't a newer rootfs?
17:04.40phhwe haven't done updates for a while but I don't know what's in babijoee's package
17:04.59Razzeekk, i'll try it
17:05.25chamonix2010-04-23
17:05.41Razzee:(
17:06.59chamonixI suggest u rety with most recent rootfs+zImage... I had the locking once but not since even when restarting from scratch
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17:10.47Razzeei'm updating all kernel, initrd and rootfs as of now
17:14.36Razzeelooping again
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17:27.08leviathan_GNUtoo: compat-wireless???
17:27.16leviathan_which kernel are you using?
17:27.47GNUtooI use my branch + compat-wireless
17:27.55leviathan_okeee
17:28.00GNUtoomy branch is the one with reverts on msm_fb.c
17:28.10leviathan_hmm, okee
17:28.18leviathan_I'm using msm-gnuconform
17:28.22leviathan_its working well
17:28.26leviathan_but it gets warm
17:28.35leviathan_anyway
17:28.59GNUtoobasically there are 3 options:
17:29.09GNUtoo*use it without PSM
17:29.18GNUtooit's what you're doing
17:29.26GNUtooit doesn't last a lot battery wise
17:29.37GNUtoo*use it with PSM,the connection doesn't last long
17:29.47GNUtoo*port the ti wireless module
17:29.54GNUtoo(sounds very hard)
17:30.10GNUtooso better fix compat-wireless
17:30.16GNUtoosome people have similar chips
17:30.28GNUtoo*open pandora has wl1251_sdio
17:30.38GNUtoo*archos has wl1271_something
17:30.49leviathan_hmm, ok
17:30.51GNUtooI bet nokia has wl1271 or 51 not shure
17:30.56GNUtooso not without hope
17:31.26phhGNUtoo: they are the one writing wl1251 driver because they are fed up of ti's driver
17:31.27phhafaik.
17:31.45GNUtooI know
17:31.59GNUtoobut I didn't know which driver/chip they have on n900
17:32.13GNUtooand I bet older tablets are not maintained
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17:36.59Razzeecan i use the standard usb driver for windows for adb or is there a custom one?
17:39.49phhnormal one should work
17:44.29Razzeehrm, still no return after adb devices :(
17:45.40phhlol, my diamond on wince can't get a fix either
17:45.43phhthat's not going to help -_-'
17:45.55Razzeelol
17:45.59phh(I wanted to compare satellites position estimation on rhod with the "correct" ones)
17:52.56Razzeegot logcat running
17:54.51AstainHellbringmmm love my desire'
17:56.35Razzeehrm
17:57.50RazzeeE/System ( 1255): Failure starting core service
17:57.58phhwhat's before ?
17:58.13Razzeescanning app dir
17:58.37phhdelete the last app he talks about
17:58.56Razzeehe isnt talking about one
17:59.04phhah.
17:59.23RazzeeD/PackageManager( 1255): Scanning app dir /data/app
17:59.46Razzeehrm
17:59.59Razzeehave no linux here at the moment
18:00.11Razzeewould like to get the xda app out of the build
18:00.26Razzeethere are 12 rows with errors from that
18:01.14RazzeeW/PackageParser( 1255): No actions in intent filter at /system/app/xdaforum.apk Binary XML file line #16
18:01.29Razzee11 more with other #numbers
18:02.31Razzeebut after:  E/System ( 1255): Failure starting core service
18:02.54RazzeeE/System ( 1255): java.lang.NullPointerException
18:04.01RazzeeE/System ( 1255): at com.android.server.PackageManagerService.scanDirLI(PackagemManagerService.Java:1971)
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18:04.53RazzeeE/System ( 1255): at com.android.server.PackageManagerService.<init><PackageMangerService.java:590)
18:05.10obelisk79good morning
18:05.47RazzeeE/System ( 1255): at com.android.server.ServerThread.run(systemServer.java:116)
18:06.18RazzeeE/AndroidRuntime( 1255): Crash logging skipped, no checkin service
18:08.01Razzeeseems like there is an exception thats not getting caught
18:08.58Razzeeanything changed from the connectivity service?
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18:17.05RazzeeE/AndroidRuntime( 1880): *** EXCEPTION IN SYSTEM PROCESS. System will crash.
18:24.46chamonixRazzee: do u happen to have some files (e.g. music) with non-utf8 names on the SD?
18:25.36phhRazzee: give full logs ...
18:26.44Razzeecharmonix: could be possible
18:27.02Razzeethe log is looping but this should cover the crash
18:27.03phhchamonix: I don't think that would kill it so soon
18:27.10phhiirc it's only android.process.media that whines
18:27.39chamonixI dunno what the scan error is but it's either something that can't be read from data.img or from the SD
18:28.29Razzeehttp://www.razze.reigninblog.de/logcat.txt
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18:29.50phhsucking copy paste eh.
18:29.58Razzeey
18:30.01Razzeeyes
18:30.22chamonixI found one similar problem and it was due to currupt dalvik cache
18:30.54chamonixRazzee: r u using an old data.img with a new system.sqsh?
18:31.01Razzeenope
18:31.13Razzeedeleted the data image very often
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18:31.25Razzeeeven tried that 4 times as a problem solve
18:31.26chamonixhmmmm, this is weird: I/PackageManager( 1880): /system/app/XXXXXX.apk changed; collecting certs
18:31.44mike150hey guys, anyone working on the hd2?
18:31.50chamonixthat happens when data is inconsistent with the cache
18:32.01chamonixs/data/system
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18:36.59Razzeeanything i can try/do?
18:37.06Razzeeor deliver?
18:38.14phhnew data.img again ? :p
18:39.37mike150what you guys working on lol?
18:40.35Razzeei can try if the log differs then
18:54.40Razzeehttp://www.razze.reigninblog.de/logcat.txt
18:54.45Razzeegot it updated
18:54.57Razzeefrom a boot with no data.img
18:55.02Razzeeseems to be the same
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19:02.48templisdid anybody know if a working Android exists for topaz (working means with(!) external speaker. I've an build but there won't work the external speaker.
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19:10.06mike150still waiting on any hd2 devs....
19:10.22phhwhat do you want them ?
19:10.42phhtemplis: any kernel that has less than 1month should have external speaker working
19:11.04phhbut only for speakerphone
19:11.51mike150im looking to help them lol, but i can never seem to find any in here
19:12.19templisyeah but it is necessary that my phone rings on incoming calls, you know? ;)
19:12.38phhtemplis: no I don't
19:13.35templishmm how did you know, that anybody calls you, without a ringtone?
19:13.55mike150vibrate..lol
19:14.10phh1.when I'm in mood to receive a call, the phone is on my desk
19:14.14phh2.vibrate.
19:15.01templishmm ok :)
19:15.06mike150phh: do you know how i can contact any hd2 devs?
19:15.28phhmike150: here or linuxtogo's ml
19:15.29Captnoordwww.htc-linux.org
19:15.49mike150linuxtogo's ml? lol
19:15.57mike150i mean ive been on here for the past 3 days and still cant get in contact
19:16.03Captnoordlol
19:16.05Captnoordcome on
19:16.10Captnoord3 days is nothing
19:16.31Captnoordya got coding skills?
19:16.39mike150lol, for me it is. i thought this was an active project lol
19:16.45phhit is ...
19:16.50Captnoorddefine active?
19:16.53Captnoordpeople work dude
19:16.57Captnoorddon't always have time
19:17.01Captnoordwelcome to the real world
19:17.08templishmm how can i pull up a console on android?
19:17.29Captnoordconsole
19:17.32mike150well of course i know that lol, but 3 days without a single dev..come on now. plus its a weekend
19:17.40Captnoordlol
19:17.43phhtemplis: dev tools
19:17.48Captnoordyou mean you can't start on your own?
19:18.02phhmike150: there have been HD2 devs here in the last 3days
19:18.12templisthank you
19:18.40mike150damn ive been asking every day lol, but these guys seem to have a lead so it would be pointless to start on my own. it seems like there missing one compenent or something so i wanted to see if i could help
19:19.11Captnoordhmmmm all there world is public
19:19.19phhtheir words*
19:19.27phh(I guess ?)
19:19.35phh(or it's a weird sentence)
19:20.06mike150lol, with sooo much demand for linux on the hd2. i thought there would be alot more people workin on it
19:20.12mike150i guess people are more talk then action
19:20.19phhit's not users that code, but devs.
19:20.20Captnoordhmmmm all there work is public*
19:20.36phhah that works too.
19:20.39Captnoorddemand.... users........
19:20.47Captnoordnot dev like phh sayd
19:20.48Captnoordcome on
19:20.57Captnoordhave some patience
19:21.03Captnoordrome wasn't build in one day
19:21.34mike150lol im not here begging for it to work, just to see if i can help...
19:21.44Captnoordlike I sayd.......
19:21.45Captnoordyou can
19:21.47Captnoordbuild your own
19:21.50Captnoordand start developing
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19:22.44mike150hah, thats an option. these guys seem like there missing just a small piece tho
19:23.01phhsmall piece before some other big pieces.
19:23.11Captnoordphh ever tried restarting the radio?
19:23.17Captnoordrebooting*
19:23.26phhCaptnoord: no why ?
19:23.30CaptnoordI dono.......
19:23.32Captnoordbecause we can
19:23.38Captnoordnah I dono
19:23.38phhok
19:23.44phhthe problem is to survive it
19:23.47phh(ie reset RPC DEX and co)
19:23.56Captnoordrilphone got a safe reboot radio
19:24.13phhok
19:24.20CaptnoordSafeRebootRadio
19:24.24phhjonpry: btw, do you have ioctrl IDs of DEX calls ?
19:24.29phhsome are in the wiki
19:25.13Captnoordhmmm rebooting only seems needed when the connection errors
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19:25.46jonpry0x90000054
19:26.10CaptnoordSet_Power_Level2_Lock = 0x90000090
19:27.02phhjonpry: update audio
19:27.11phh( http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=RaphaelDEX )
19:27.12jonpryah
19:27.37jonpryit also IOcontrols something called SPM
19:27.51Captnoordsystem power manager?
19:28.15jonpryyou guys know everything!
19:28.25Captnoordnope
19:28.30Captnoordif we did.....
19:28.35jonpryit would work...
19:28.35phhjonpry: cr2 does.
19:28.36Captnoordwe would have a working kernel
19:28.38Captnoordyea
19:28.42Captnoordhe knows everything
19:28.45Captnoordhe is god
19:28.57Captnoordor a library
19:28.57Captnoord:P
19:29.16jonprythen why doesn't cr2 make it work?
19:29.39jonpryi think the goal with Vial/sound should be to get the magic interrupt to trigger
19:30.24phhwell, not exactly everything.
19:30.38jonpryat that point we should be able to get qdsp5 working
19:30.40phhonly almost everything :p
19:30.46phhjonpry: yup.
19:30.55phhi've no clue what this stupid trigger is thouogh
19:30.56phh-o
19:31.24jonprythe queue empty/update trigger?
19:31.42phhperhaps
19:32.36jonpryiirc that is the problem. ADSP has a queue of 2 8000 byte packets, and it never empties the data
19:33.03jonpryor generates the CFG_MSG_RUNNING or whatever
19:34.10jonprypresumably those are all the same problem
19:34.29jonprycurrent hurdle is wce_rex
19:34.46jonpryi don't get what it is. limited info suggests that it is some kind of realtime kernel
19:38.28jonprymaybe what we need is usermode linux for wince?
19:39.53Captnoordhmmmm U suspect the camera beeing a possible drain
19:40.07CaptnoordI had a talk here with one of the fellow dev's about mobile phone camera systems
19:40.27Captnoordhe told me that one of the things on the mobile platform was a fast cam
19:40.28Captnoordso
19:40.37Captnoordmaybe on wince the cam is already on
19:40.39Captnoorddoing idle
19:41.48phhanother thing, I don't think we ever power up/down *DSP
19:42.09Captnoordalso possible
19:43.40phhand perhaps linked to our sound problem :p
19:44.19Captnoordhehehehhhe
19:44.25CaptnoordI know what your doing phh
19:44.32phhno way.
19:44.45jonpryi really need a way to do mmutrace on some memory i've allocated
19:44.48jonpryin linux
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19:44.59phhjonpry: gdb + breakpoint ?
19:45.49jonpryexactly like that, but without gdb
19:46.00jonpryjust printf and run
19:49.53jonpryalso, i'm using the Topaz sound driver. thats probably ok for RPC, but GPIO is going to be different
19:51.01phhand i2C.
19:51.25phhhaha and I2S
19:52.20phhjonpry: basically, just wait for ADSP interrupt don't worry about not having sound output.
19:52.58jonprywell, it could fail to power on the ADSP without using the proper driver
19:53.19phhna, adsp is inner of qualcomm stuff
19:53.47jonpryno GPIO involved?
19:54.04phhi've never  seen such a thing at least
19:55.34leviathan_mickey|away: seems to be a known issue
19:55.37leviathan_http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2010-April/019413.html
19:57.22jonpryis there a DEX userspace library?
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20:01.55phhno
20:02.08phhjonpry: you can safely recode it through access to /dev/mem
20:02.12phhmore or less safely.
20:03.54jonpryhmmm
20:06.34jonpryany ideas on pmem_malloc?
20:06.42phhwhat about it ?
20:06.43phhhow to code it ?
20:08.37jonpryanything would be good
20:08.51jonpryparms, return, function?
20:09.18jonprylooks like the same thing as sharedvirtualalloccopy(), and setkmode()
20:09.19phhsize, perhaps an enum for an area
20:09.24phhreturns phys address
20:09.31phhperhaps virt addr too
20:10.27jonpryouch
20:12.06jonpryso it actually allocated some physical memory?
20:13.03phhyup
20:13.09phhwell that's what pmem is on linux
20:20.55mynis there any direction towards going to a writable /system in the future?
20:21.10mynsimilar to vogue/kaiser/polaris with multiple ext2 partitions
20:21.13mynone for system, one for data?
20:22.37phhnot really useful, but users just have to convert .sqsh to .ext2
20:22.48mynhow not so useful?
20:22.50myntheming?
20:22.55mynmetamorphing
20:23.02phhtheming needs changing frameworks ... ?
20:23.09mynyeah
20:23.14mynframework-res
20:23.16mynservices.jar
20:23.20phhandroid is that badly made ?
20:23.37mynI wrote an application
20:23.39myncalled RogueTools
20:23.50mynIt needs rw acccess
20:24.08mynI actually have the code written to work with diamond/touch/rhodium
20:24.15mynbut until the system is writable
20:24.17mynI am SOL
20:24.34mynhttp://www.xda-developers.com/android/roguetools-v1-for-vogue-android/
20:25.31phhyou need R/W access to system to change O/C speed and lcd.density ?
20:26.12mynyeah
20:26.26mynI just think rw access would open it up
20:26.33mynandroid update system would be better to
20:26.45mynso a user releases base 1 rom
20:26.53myn.1 release comes out. today they release an entire new sqsh
20:27.00mynwhen they can just release an update
20:27.06mynand the update is applied to the /system
20:27.08mynon start
20:27.13mynsimilar to how it is in vogue
20:27.17mynworks really well
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20:27.41mynlook at how many updates I have included in my Warm Donut rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619980
20:27.44mynlike 30 or so
20:28.26mynand it allows better customization
20:28.29mynanother example
20:28.48mynincubus made a seperate thread for my rom that allows you to customize it to exactly how you want it with updates
20:28.48mynhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654852
20:30.12jonpryphh: why did you think it was the time that was killing gps?
20:30.28phhjonpry: it's one of the things that you need to get a fix
20:30.32phhamongst others.
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20:30.45phhbut time is the simpliest :p
20:31.34jonpryseemed to me that UTC on my phone was off by 12 hours, according to NMEA
20:32.36mynphh: read this more about the update system
20:32.37mynhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625014
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20:35.11phhjonpry: and works better now ?
20:36.51jonpryno, its doesn't work at all
20:36.56phhlol ok
20:38.46jonpryi am not convinced the gps receivers are very good at not doing agps. If i turn agps off in winmo. I will never get a fix at locations where i know it works. With agps on, i get 10 sats.
20:38.58leviathan_mickey|away: I found a workaround
20:39.28phhjonpry: right
20:43.11jonpryi can probably find the IOControls for saving/reading the almanac, but i can
20:43.21jonpryt find the existing almanac on windows
20:47.53jonprythis is the only rpc i have got out of the sound driver so far. i'm guessing you already have it http://pastebin.com/5jTdaXzu
20:50.41phhjonpry: haha
20:50.41phhno.
20:51.21phhoh wait
20:51.26phhyou didn't cpu_to_be32
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20:52.45phhright that's plain old snd_set_volume()
20:55.54jonpryargh
20:56.19jonprythe thing claims to have played my sound
20:56.27jonprybut i got no interrupt
20:56.52phhouch
20:57.13phh(and haret in wince do get ADSP irqs)
20:58.17jonpryi haven't implemented dex, spm, or a bunch of stuff in wce_rex
20:58.55jonprysometimes when you don't implement something it will crash, other times, it will just trail off the path of execution
20:59.43phhbut you said there are two dex calls no ?
21:00.12jonprytheres 2 iocontrols that i completely ignore
21:00.36phhdon't you have IDs ?
21:00.54jonpryyeah, there is some issue about the parms
21:01.02jonpryi don't know where they are as of yet
21:01.45jonpryand i need to add iocontrollable support stuff to the openfile code
21:01.59jonprythat might not actually be hard
21:01.59phhok
21:02.22jonpryits just code, there is always more to write
21:03.00jonpryi suspect wce_rex is a terribly complicated beast
21:03.30phhdo you somehow know what it does ?
21:03.38phhi've never heard of it
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21:05.34jonpryhttp://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CBUQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdongeui.ac.kr%2F~hgjeon%2Fspboard%2Fboard.cgi%3Fid%3Dqna%26action%3Ddownload%26gul%3D149&ei=v9HlS4nIHIT-tAOfkLHRCw&usg=AFQjCNHNbHThNufm4-CqrXUblqQJSMxMTg&sig2=UCNIa3hKg2lYsuAL0lCN_w
21:05.55jonpryhttp://khei.tistory.com/19
21:06.47phhhum.
21:06.54phhon DSP side perhaps .?
21:08.05jonprythe function pointer it gives as a parm is an address inside of wavedev
21:08.42jonpryi have no idea what TCB* is though
21:10.46jonpryi made a pthread for it, and it runs something that want to make a bunch of rex_deftimer
21:11.21jonprynever does make a PPAUD task and such
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21:21.47jonprystupid trace of execution http://filebin.ca/rfwt/trace
21:23.12jonprydesigned for easy reading
21:23.50phhcool :p
21:29.55phhyou really need to find how to trace memory access :/
21:31.14jonprythats potentially more important after the sound comes out
21:34.55randomblamestill working on rhod jonpry?
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21:35.07jonpryrandomblame: yes
21:35.44jonpryonce upon a time i got a fix from gps
21:37.39jonprydid you get your own rhod?
21:43.31randomblameyep I did
21:44.47randomblameone day i'll have time to work on it
21:48.01jonpryphh: so i had this other idea. don't really want to start on it yet, but think VirtualCE
21:48.37jonpryload up an arm emulator at some unused address, and more or less execute the instructions as is
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21:50.16Unholyhey guys any news on getting hw3d working on donut again?
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