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00:02.13jonpryargh, how do we get it to handle A9 resets?
00:02.43jonprytoolbox is short on tools
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01:10.10AstainHellbringhi how goes it?
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01:27.50xsachahey guys.. is there any app for turning your phone in to a wireless keyboard
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01:42.22xsachaoh i found GRemote :)
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02:07.26jonpryhow can i get very last console messages when a9 dies?
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06:37.04zipperhi
06:37.09zipperi got a question
06:37.34zipperhow can i get my linux to connect with htc mobile device?
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07:12.01jonpryphh: i commented out all of handle_modem_crash(). this keeps everything running post gps. but rpc is down, so i can't try again. looks like msm_hw_reset_hook is supposed to actually get arm9 running again. Enabling this freezes my phone
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07:50.45NetRipper~leo-ramconsole
07:50.46aptleo-ramconsole is probably pwf myramconsole 0x2FFC0000 0x40000
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07:58.56Captnoordre
07:59.02Captnoordyo NetRipper
07:59.05Captnoordgoeie morgen
07:59.30Captnoordjonpry: hmmmm yea.....
07:59.39Captnoordthere is something similar in the nk.exe
07:59.45Captnoordregarding this
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08:05.20Captnoordyo
08:05.48Markinuscodeaurora has a new .32 tree with tv drivers etc. https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/le/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/android-msm-2.6.32
08:06.39Captnoordhmmmm
08:06.41Captnoordcool
08:08.19Markinusto much repos .. . argh
08:28.49Captnoordhmmmmmmmmmmm
08:28.53Captnoorduber hmmmm
08:29.11CaptnoordSMD_PORT_LOOPBACK,
08:29.24Captnoordseems to be behind SMD_PORT_CS_MODEM_DSP,
08:29.45Captnoordresulting in the modem sdm id
08:29.51Captnoordbeeing wrong
08:29.56CaptnoordI dono
08:29.58Captnoordmaybe its something
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10:20.52Captnoordbleh.... when I try to put the modem in suspend.... it reboots
10:20.53Captnoordbleh
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13:56.29GNUtoo|oeeehi mickey|office
13:56.45GNUtoo|oeeedo you still have something for sierra modems
13:56.55GNUtoo|oeeeor it disapeared in fso1?
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14:06.33hfctsaot\o/
14:07.01hfctsaotHTC took all that source down
14:07.12hfctsaot:-(
14:08.04GNUtoo|oeeewhich source?
14:08.09GNUtoo|oeeecodeaurora?
14:09.34hfctsaotNo the Eris legend and other stuff
14:09.58GNUtoo|oeeeah
14:10.09hfctsaotDeveloper.htc.com
14:10.39GNUtoo|oeeeah k
14:10.48hfctsaotWhat's happening here today? The logs don't say much
14:13.12GNUtoo|oeeeI don't know
14:13.42GNUtoo|oeeebtw mickey|office did you made the wl1251 ti(non kernel.org) driver work?
14:13.58GNUtoo|oeeealso mickey|office do images compile now?
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15:14.14mickey|officemorning GNUtoo
15:14.23GNUtoohi
15:14.31mickey|officei have little time these days
15:14.35mickey|officei only did more tests with ad-hoc
15:14.38mickey|officebut everything failed
15:14.43mickey|officeno time to try TIWLAN
15:15.22GNUtoook
15:15.27mickey|officebut i really don't like the idea of a custom 802.11 stack
15:15.52mickey|officeperhaps we can ask on the linux-wireless list about ad-hoc on wl1251
15:15.58mickey|officefor wl1271 it can be done
15:16.22GNUtoook
15:16.31GNUtooI'll ask then I'm suscribed
15:16.39GNUtoobut let me send an oe mail
15:16.40GNUtoobefore
15:16.59mickey|officecool, thanks
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15:59.46jonpryCaptnoord: according to the logs phh and cr2 sort of got it working. RPC is supposed to work but DEX dies. Which is weird because DEX should be require to get it running again :-)
16:01.00jonpryHow is rebooting A9 for gps not a bug. Like wouldn't that kill any phonecalls, sound, gprs, 3g.....
16:02.49jonpryand it so hard to find everything that was in progress and get it running again. Every driver will need support for that (once they all work)
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16:38.06lgirolamihi
16:38.44lgirolamianybody here working in the htc-vogue branch at linuxtogo ?
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16:56.56Captnoordjonpry:gps or modem suspend
16:59.55jonprycaptnoord. i'm working on gps. which seems to reboot A9. when A9 comes back up, i need RPC, could careless about DEX
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17:05.06phh[23:34:35] <stinebd> phh: that seems reasonable. i was rather surprised that they put stuff that simple in a proprietary library, actually. <-------- perhaps you can make a repo so I'll just have to code ? :D
17:05.11phh(or you can code too.)
17:05.28phh[02:07:52] <jonpry> argh, how do we get it to handle A9 resets? <---------- are you really sure we are supposed to ?
17:05.48phhjonpry: on -gps-workaround branch I've some stuff for surviving A9 resets
17:06.06phhbut it seems to me DEX and RPC won't come back to life
17:06.38phhjonpry: google ramconsole to get last messages
17:06.39phhand
17:06.40phh~ramconsole
17:06.41aptwell, ramconsole is pwf dm 0x8e0000 0x20000
17:07.21phh(command to do in haret)
17:09.03phhI guess I could trace DEX registers to see wether it resets or not
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17:14.16Captnoordloooool
17:14.20Captnoordwritel(1,MSM_SHARED_RAM_BASE+0xfc100);
17:14.20Captnoordwritel(readl(MSM_SHARED_RAM_BASE+0xfc108)+1,MSM_SHARED_RAM_BASE+0xfc108);
17:14.32Captnoordthe modem is already beeing notified about the suspend
17:14.32phhwhat's that ?
17:14.33Captnoordlol
17:14.33phhDEX code ?
17:14.36Captnoordthats a dex call
17:14.48Captnoordlol
17:14.58Captnoordin pm.c
17:14.59phhwhy is it lol ?
17:15.07phhpm.c ?!?
17:15.20Captnoordits to notify the modem about the suspend
17:15.49Captnoordbut I think we need more than that to make it work
17:15.56Captnoordwe need to fake irq shit
17:16.06Captnoordso no notify int6 shit
17:16.19Captnoordsame code is in nk.exe btw
17:16.26Captnoordonly some extra shit about VIC
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17:21.16chamonixhey guys
17:21.29Captnoordyo
17:21.35chamonixphh: same modified kernel with SIM but no data and AOSP : 16 hours
17:21.44phhoO
17:21.47chamonixtesting without SIM tonite
17:21.49phhmight I say that's weird ?
17:21.53phhah *with* sim
17:21.54phhlala.
17:21.57chamonixlol
17:22.07Captnoordphh
17:22.08Captnoordmaybe not
17:22.09Captnoord:P
17:22.13chamonixyea, I know that's inconsistent to change two params at once :P
17:22.17phhCaptnoord: maybe not what ?
17:22.28Captnoordnvm
17:22.30phhCaptnoord: so you've seen the modification chamonix is talking about ?
17:22.35Captnoordnope
17:22.36chamonixlol
17:22.42Captnoordthat was I wanting to ask
17:22.45Captnoordbut my brain farted
17:22.46phhCaptnoord: your averaging battery stuff
17:22.53phhI replaced it with only one read without msleep.
17:22.53Captnoordhehe
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17:23.13Captnoorddoes the battery driver sleep?
17:23.16Captnoordsuspend?
17:23.17phhdon't worry, I've no clue why it works.
17:23.21phhdon't know
17:23.23phhsounds likely
17:23.31Captnoordhmmmm
17:25.40phhCaptnoord: could you trace wether A9 resets on wince ? :p
17:26.06CaptnoordI was just bussy with a9 suspend
17:26.07Captnoordadding
17:26.08Captnoordwritel(readl(VIC_INT_MASTEREN) & ~1, VIC_INT_MASTEREN);
17:26.08Captnoordwritel(readl(VIC_INT_SELECT_0) | 0x40, VIC_INT_SELECT_0);
17:26.08Captnoordwritel(readl(VIC_INT_EN_0) | 0x40, VIC_INT_EN_0);
17:26.08Captnoordwritel(readl(VIC_INT_MASTEREN) | 2, VIC_INT_MASTEREN);
17:26.13Captnoordas its not done on linux
17:26.16Captnoordbut done on wince
17:26.19Captnoordwill do in a moment
17:26.32phhshouldn't change a thing.
17:26.37Captnoorddono
17:27.30Captnoord[19:25] <phh> Captnoord: could you trace wether A9 resets on wince ? :p
17:27.31Captnoordhow?
17:27.41phhI don't realy know
17:27.47Captnoordhehe
17:27.52phhwell, you can loop dump the SMSM_RESET reg
17:28.34Captnoordtrue
17:29.36Captnoordhmmm
17:29.39Captnoordit doesn't crash
17:29.45Captnoordnow measure if it does anything at all
17:30.06Captnoordin a way the code I pasted is some sort of int6 notify
17:30.11Captnoordwithout the hashle
17:30.17phhmeh ?
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17:37.00Captnoordphh lol
17:37.47Captnoordhmmm I would say....
17:37.51Captnoordguess what the battery drain is
17:38.30Captnoordwierd shit
17:38.31Captnoordlooooool
17:38.37CaptnoordI think I just got spec battery drain
17:39.15Captnoordas in....
17:39.22Captnoordlol
17:39.24Captnoordloooool
17:39.26Captnoordcheers
17:39.33CaptnoordI still can't believe it
17:40.17Captnoordhmmmmmm
17:40.38Captnoordlemme boot another kernel
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17:50.05Wouthappy time? Captnoord?
17:50.37Captnoordnah
17:50.38Captnoorddono
17:50.41Captnoordcrappy equipment
17:50.44Captnoordhard to say
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17:54.50Captnoordyea
17:54.52Captnoordits lower
17:54.56Captnoordbattery drain is lower
17:55.01phhreally ?
17:55.02Captnoordbut not device spec
17:55.03Captnoordyup
17:55.08phhhow much ?
17:55.15Woutby changing what?
17:55.19phhand do you have any explanation ? :p
17:55.22phhWout: disabling VIC
17:55.27Captnoordnah
17:55.29phhhum not exactly
17:55.30Captnoordnot disabling vic
17:55.35phhnot at all ok.
17:55.44Woutwhat's vic?
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17:55.49Captnoordlooooool
17:55.50Captnoordcrap
17:55.52phhWout: interrupts that interrupt interrupts
17:55.54Captnoordmy battery popwed out
17:55.56Captnoordhahahahahahahah
17:55.59phh(I swear)
17:56.02Captnoordneeds to boot again
17:56.02phhCaptnoord: lol
17:56.03Captnoordlolz
17:58.22Captnoordhooks his multimeter directly to the resistor
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18:01.54Captnoordwhile booting varying from 30mV to 60 mV
18:02.00Captnoord60ma to 120 ma
18:02.20phhwho cares about booting ? :p
18:02.23Captnoordlol
18:02.24Captnoordtrue
18:02.26Captnoordso true
18:02.48Captnoordthe problem I now face is that the core I am using contains also some mods on the mmc side
18:03.02Captnoordbut I will build a kernel without it
18:03.02Captnoord:P
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18:03.42Captnoordaaahhh crap
18:03.45Captnoordcurses
18:03.50phhback to old consumption ?
18:04.00Captnoordbattery popped out again
18:04.18phhlol
18:04.20Captnoordthe system is wrong
18:04.21Captnoordbleh
18:04.30Captnoordneed to buy a broken battery
18:04.33Captnoordand use that
18:04.44phhwell, working one aren't really costly.
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18:09.23Captnoordnothing a bit of superglew can't fix
18:10.09Woutso, if your readings are correct, this would improve battery life?
18:10.10Captnoordit was roughly 2.5 - 5mV less
18:10.20Captnoordyup
18:10.25Captnoordbut I need to verify it bigtime
18:10.37Woutand might it also fix the wakeup/suspend issue?
18:10.44Captnoordnope
18:10.59Captnoordactualy I don't know
18:11.09Captnoordwe dont have anough docs
18:11.10Captnoordbleh
18:11.38Woutwe really need to befriend someone at qualcomm or htc :P
18:11.48Captnoordhehe
18:11.59CaptnoordI had my traineeship talk yesterday
18:12.03Captnoordwent pretty good
18:12.19Captnoordthere 'technical' man started to ask me questions
18:12.21CaptnoordI was like
18:12.22Captnoordwtf
18:12.28Captnoorddidn't expected that
18:12.50Captnoordgot a awnser for all of them
18:12.52Captnoordso thats good
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18:13.44Woutwhat company?
18:13.44phhCaptnoord: perhaps you're not a genius, but still, there are way more people worst than you, than better.
18:14.41Captnoordits mainly the lack of docs and equipment....
18:14.43Captnoordand experience
18:14.46Captnoordhehe
18:14.50CaptnoordI just started....
18:14.57CaptnoordWout.... bleh can't remember the new name
18:16.04Woutwhat kind of company? big one?
18:16.07Captnoordsmall
18:16.11Captnoordsmall team
18:16.16Captnoord2 coders
18:16.19Captnoord2 hw guys
18:16.37Captnoordno men in black
18:16.37Captnoord:D
18:16.41Woutnice
18:16.52Captnoordthey create a device the cops use....
18:16.58Captnoorda recording thiungy
18:17.09WoutI might write about it some day :P
18:17.12Captnoordhehe
18:17.13Captnoord:D
18:17.16Woutis journalism intern
18:17.18Captnoordcool
18:17.27Captnoord[20:13] <phh> Captnoord: perhaps you're not a genius, but still, there are way more people worst than you, than better.
18:17.35Captnoordi'm not scared of beeing crap at all
18:17.44Captnoordas I know exactly what I can and can't do
18:18.02dcordeshi
18:18.08Captnoordyo
18:18.31Captnoordphh
18:18.32Captnoordhttps://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/le/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=commit;h=7b63197e2a63920ee285d34b88f41b7d701f2eaf
18:18.35Captnoordinteresting shit
18:18.44Captnoordbecause they can't use the bootloader dma init stuff
18:18.45Captnoordso
18:18.52Captnoordthey have to reinit everything themselfs
18:18.52phhit is ?
18:18.56phhah.
18:20.16Captnoordhttps://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/le/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=commit;h=a7283d5c6df3f48f49b45239e683a622fc2b5c6e
18:20.45Captnoordnot so related to our stuff
18:20.49Captnoordbut still interesting
18:21.21phhO.M.F.G.
18:21.58phhoh sdio has nothing to do with mmc
18:22.01phhfiou
18:23.03hfctsaotWifi
18:23.19Captnoordanything
18:23.24phhhfctsaot: bluetooth
18:23.32hfctsaotOh
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18:23.52jonpry2hi all
18:23.57phhhey jonpry2
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18:24.23hfctsaotPhh stick around when I get off work I have something for guys
18:24.23jonpry2may i suggest that looping for the MSMS_RESET reg won't work. perhaps wirq M2A_NEEDS_RESET would work better
18:24.26jonpry2hi phh
18:24.39ZepiiiHi all.
18:24.45phhM3A_NEED_RESET ... ?
18:24.48phhM2A*
18:24.55phhnever heard of that one, which one is it ?
18:26.03jonpry2ummm, found it in wiki earlier...
18:28.03jonpry2there is IRQ_SOFTRESET on raphael
18:28.23lgirolamiMarkinus: ping
18:28.34lgirolamiMarkinus: any leo news ?
18:28.40ZepiiiAre you working on the Android port for the HD2 ?
18:31.57Captnoordlol
18:31.58jonpry2phh: i have the log open at home. will check when i get there. The kernel is spinning whenever MSMS_RESET is happening, so there is no user time for HaRET
18:32.01Captnoordhow to fixate superglew
18:32.03Captnoordbaking soda
18:32.07lgirolamiZepiii: yes
18:32.41lgirolamiZepiii: well there is some stall situation. we have a problem and nobody knows how it is caused
18:33.14jonpry2at this point i am 99% sure that Vial is sending the right rpc data. There is one little thing i don't know about. But it is so unlikely to be killing A9, that it must be rebooting
18:33.29phhok
18:34.30jonpry2anyone know if it is possible to use the phone while gps is active?
18:34.47Captnoordhmmm
18:34.52CaptnoordI would say its possible
18:35.03Captnoordits what I consider normal use
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18:35.17Captnoorddo tom tom on the road
18:35.22Captnoordand get a call along the way
18:35.30jonpry2it definetely would kill the call if a9 reset
18:35.50Captnoordyup
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18:36.17Captnoordfirst try without the vic code
18:36.20jonpry2maybe that could be the test. make call, startup gps
18:36.55Captnoordyup
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18:38.19jonpry2there is also some question as to when exactly GPS_Init runs. Could be on boot
18:39.17Captnoord17.30 mV on suspend...... without the vic thingy
18:40.20jonpry2call does not die when gps is activated
18:40.30Captnoordk
18:40.40phhso A9 is not supposed to reset
18:40.41WoutCaptnoord: what was it before?
18:40.42phhnext try :p
18:41.27CaptnoordWout: that was without it.... so yes... before
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18:41.47jonpry2phh: so when a9 calls the all callbacks, should a11 send something back?
18:41.51phhCaptnoord: and after it's ?
18:41.59Captnoordbooting
18:42.06phhjonpry: ACKs but I'm pretty sure that's already done
18:42.32jonpry2like when we call one of the gps procs, it always returns a uin32
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18:43.40Captnoordwon't change a thing
18:43.41Captnoordbleh
18:43.44phhtrace it but I'm pretty sure we send ACKs
18:43.44Captnoordbangs his head
18:43.50phhCaptnoord: that's better.
18:44.43Captnoordnow its time for me to kill the battery shit
18:45.08Captnoordi'm sure its something very small
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18:59.04ZepiiiJust wanted to say one time again : Thank you for your hardwork to everyone working for the port of Android on the Leo/HD2. I have no skill to help you, so I simply wish you GOOD luck and don't listen to the bastard flaming on XDA ! See you. Zepiii
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19:03.43hfctsaotBTW did that HTC incredible source help the hd2 guys any?
19:04.29phhI'm not sure they even read it atm.
19:04.54hfctsaotphh did u check out the .29 Eris source?
19:05.23phhhu ?
19:05.24phhno
19:05.34dcordesGNUtoo, mickey|zzZZzz  http://lists.arm.linux.org.uk/lurker/search/20380101.000000.00000000@ml:linux-arm-kernel,dream.en.html
19:05.37hfctsaotIt has qdsp_comp
19:05.52GNUtoodcordes, ok reading
19:05.52phhhfctsaot: and ?
19:06.00phhit uses it ?
19:06.17Kensandcordes: hi
19:06.40dcordesI didn't expect anybody is still working on mainlining dream.
19:06.51dcordesKensan, hi there
19:07.16phhdcordes: I think they are
19:07.24phhtheir .33 tree has alternatives to wakelock
19:07.26Captnoordphh
19:07.30phhCaptnoord:
19:07.30Captnoordbattery code disabled
19:07.32GNUtoodcordes, the page doesn't load
19:07.35Captnoord16.13 mV
19:07.37GNUtootakes ages
19:07.47Captnoordnah not disabled
19:07.47Kensandcordes: cool stuff
19:07.49phhCaptnoord: it's the constant charge which change ?!?
19:07.58Captnoordbut I removed my loop
19:08.14Kensandcordes: Pavel intermittently posted about things like that in his blog if I recall correctly.
19:08.16dcordesGNUtoo, http://lists.arm.linux.org.uk/lurker/list/linux-arm-kernel.html just type in dream
19:08.27Parad0XUAdcordes: they should be working on hd2 instead :)
19:08.35Kensandcordes: didn't know he was actively working on mainlining though...
19:08.45Captnoordhmmmm
19:08.48Captnoordwierd shit
19:08.58KensanGNUtoo: hello there
19:09.34Captnoordlol
19:09.41GNUtoohi
19:09.42CaptnoordI already did 2 things at the same time
19:09.47CaptnoordI change the panel to diamonds one
19:09.50Captnoordso I can't say
19:09.51Captnoordbleh
19:09.54phhCaptnoord: pfff
19:10.13Captnoordslaps himself
19:10.17Captnoordi'll never learn
19:10.20hfctsaotphh: yes it uses it
19:10.29Kensandcordes: I should be getting a Nexus One next week...
19:11.01dcordesmost importantly they should keep in mind that there are six other very well supported msm7xxxA devices, five msm7xxx (non-A) and plenty of QSD to come
19:11.06hfctsaotI'm trying to make Eris source heroc source
19:12.50hfctsaotAnd this chat is the best on Freenode :-P
19:12.54GNUtoook
19:16.05Captnoord16.27mV constant
19:16.22Captnoorddiamonds panel code saves another .14 mV
19:16.31Captnoordwoeps
19:16.32Captnoordnope
19:16.38Captnoordbattery code shit
19:16.41Captnoordsaves .14 mV
19:16.52Captnoorddiamonds panel code does most
19:17.00GNUtoodcordes, still not accessible...I tried with other mirrors,so dream stays in staging and has a lot of patches?
19:18.16dcordesGNUtoo, for me the website works flawlessly
19:18.41GNUtooI bet so,I can ping but not see
19:20.06Captnoordchamonix: dude.....
19:20.08dcordesGNUtoo, still trying to find out where they have the code
19:20.14GNUtoo|oeeeI'll try here
19:20.17Captnoordwhat where the kernels with the best time
19:20.19Captnoordold kernels
19:20.44GNUtoook
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19:22.11dcordesGNUtoo, does it work?
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19:23.23GNUtoono I'll work arround it
19:26.30dcordesZepiii, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Operating_system_placement.svg
19:28.53GNUtoodcordes, works now,using tor
19:29.02dcordesZepiii, kernel is the blue thing
19:29.27dcordesZepiii, and android mostly the green thing. so you can see it is depending on the kernel
19:29.59Zepiiidcordes, Yeah I understood that
19:30.34GNUtooI wonder how it performs with  linus tree
19:30.43GNUtoois there another way than serial?
19:30.53Parad0XUAdcordes is inredible's kernel any helpful?
19:30.55dcordesserial?
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19:32.51WoutCaptnoord: according to chamonix, zImage.20100328_224950 was the last one working correctly
19:33.12phhWout: there is already a workaround in the pipeline for that
19:33.15dcordesZepiii, you can't tell how long it takes. you're welcome.
19:34.13dcordesParad0XUA, I downloaded the sources from developer.htc.com
19:34.35dcordesParad0XUA, didn't look at it closely yet
19:34.41dcordesParad0XUA, you? any findings?
19:35.46Captnoordthanks Wout
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19:39.36dcordes~seen LeTama
19:39.38aptletama <~IceChat7@vau06-1-82-228-252-90.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 2d 6h 4m 18s ago, saying: 'I've just tested my initrd on diamond, works fine. so something is definitely wrong in process creation'.
19:40.01Zepiii_@All, thank you very much ! Really cool people here ! See you. Zepiii !
19:40.04dcordesParad0XUA, do you get any output in the codeaurora kernel?
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19:47.01Parad0XUAdcordes: I didn't have time to mess with it either... compiled it but obviously it didn't even start :)
19:47.24Parad0XUAwhich branch from codeaurora? Markinus' stuff you mean?
19:47.41dcordesyep markinus' gitorious branch
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19:54.38diiishe-awaytalk about a bunch of whiners:
19:54.39diiishe-awayhttp://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=120041
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19:55.44Captnoordlolz
19:55.55diiishe-awayI'm fairly certain none of the actual devs from this channel have contributed to that discussion. It sounds like a bunch of spoiled whiney impatient kids
19:55.55dcordesah the makkonen forum
19:56.34dcordesit makes no sense to use ppcgeeks for android rom posting
19:56.40dcordeswhile there is xda
19:57.00diiishe-awayyeah, but at least in the beginning most of the CDMA progess was on PPCG
19:57.18dcordesthe progress was there?
19:57.23diiishe-awayI guess now that they've merged its a non issue, but I had that show up on my RSS feed, and got a great big WTF
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19:58.32diiishe-awaywell, generally PPCG was a more CDMA crowd. MrPippy, etc, had a whole thing going on with more lively discussion there than XDA, at least at first.
19:59.57diiishe-awayI haven't checked it in a while, but I saw that and couldn't beleive how many people agreed with the OP. WTF- the Vogue wasn't fully working until long after its EOL!
20:00.50diiishe-awayThen I got nervous that maybe people really were giving up, until I noticed that I don't think any of these people have ever contributed anything to the project in the first place
20:01.10diiishe-awaythey're the early-adopter type who like to jump to the next big thing.
20:01.15Captnoordphh: 15 mV
20:01.44Captnoordby messing with the mmc gpio shit
20:01.45phhCaptnoord: with what ?
20:01.48phhah
20:01.50phhweird
20:01.51Captnoordas its using pullup resistors
20:01.55Captnoordand if you set it to 0
20:02.08Captnoordthere runs a current
20:02.13CaptnoordI mean
20:02.16phhright
20:02.16Captnoordthere is a small current drain
20:02.46Captnoordbut i'll gonna check if enabling the vregs does anthing
20:02.53Captnoord14 mV even now
20:02.55Captnoordlol
20:03.34Captnoordthere is a clock fucking up something
20:03.36CaptnoordI think
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20:11.26makkonenhey! the ppcgeeks crowd is not my fault! :-p
20:12.05Captnoordlol
20:12.05Captnoord:P
20:12.06hfctsaotWTF ToAsTcfh connection timed out o_0
20:12.57hfctsaotAh ppcgeeks those were the days
20:13.03hfctsaotLol
20:13.38hfctsaotXda is becoming ppcgeeks
20:14.10hfctsaotWell the cdma forums at least
20:15.01hfctsaotCaptnoord any luck?
20:16.18Captnoordnah
20:16.20Captnoordnot anough
20:18.10hfctsaotLol
20:18.58hfctsaotWell I got .29 Eris source so now I'm trying to make it cdma hero source
20:19.37hfctsaotWhich is a bigger pain then I thought
20:21.10hfctsaotI still need to see what the board file looks like for the heroc to get it to init
20:21.45hfctsaotIt compiles so that's a plus
20:22.15diiishe-awayonly goes back to ppcgeeks because of some friends and nostalgia.
20:22.56diiishe-awayUsed to be XDA is where its at for generic WM stuff, and PPCG was good for CDMA-specific stuff (since we're a smaller crowd in comparison)
20:23.25diiishe-awaynow, I find most of the conversation on PPCG infuriatingly imbecile
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20:40.13CaptnoordMarkinus: I think if we would add the panel code.... the fb_console would work.....
20:40.19Captnoordits more of a feeling
20:40.26Captnoordcan't explain
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21:07.14ToAsTcfhCaptnoord: u still here
21:08.02chamonixCaptnoord: 0328 was in the row the last one with battery > 20 hours, the commit that broke that are in battery_smem
21:08.38chamonixthe fix that works is to a) remove the loop < 5 for caculating the avg _plus_ get rid of the sleep
21:10.17Captnoordi'm still here
21:10.30chamonixhttp://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/commit/0958a2031641c4bf359f59cb4523014f55deb462 line 669 and 679
21:11.28chamonixof course the fix is dirty as it removes the purpose of the commit
21:11.32Captnoordyea yea I know its my code
21:11.41Captnoordthe purpose is crap anyway
21:11.58CaptnoordI now got nice results with the diamond panel code
21:12.04Captnoord16.25 mv lowest
21:12.13Captnoord18.88 mv highest
21:12.21Captnoord./ 0.5
21:12.21chamonixonly diam or raph too?
21:12.22Captnoordor
21:12.25Captnoordx 2
21:12.26phhand before it was 17mV ?
21:12.31Captnoordyup
21:12.37Captnoord17.4
21:12.52CaptnoordI copy pasted the diamonds to the raph panel
21:13.03Captnoordmy hw is exactly the same so it works
21:13.10phhhttp://www.hardkernel.com/store.php
21:13.12phhwwwwwwwwwwwhhhhhhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
21:13.38phhjust when I got enough money to get one
21:13.45Captnoordhahahahahhahahahahaahahah
21:14.07Captnoordphh I pushed a commit to re-enable mmc vreg switching
21:14.15phhCaptnoord: meh ?
21:14.18phhand it helps ?
21:14.19Captnoordbut I disabled the vreg voltage stuff
21:14.29Captnoordso it only enables / disables the vreg
21:14.35Captnoordyup it helps
21:14.43phhah ok
21:15.06Captnoordin my build I also disabled the sleeping led effect
21:15.08phhit will end with an acer liquid perhaps
21:15.10phhnot same price.
21:15.42Captnoordhmmmm
21:16.07Captnoordso my build would give me a battery life ( suspended only ) off 35 - 41 hours
21:16.18phhhum
21:16.23phhgive that to chamonix.
21:16.27chamonix:)
21:16.33chamonixmy phone does nothing but sleep
21:16.36Captnoordk
21:17.27jonpryCaptnoord, you realize that the power supply will trade volts for amps. So voltage variation from draining/sitting or whatever will cause a proportional change in current. Your shunt thing is probably not accurate to the 5% or so you are looking at
21:18.01Captnoordjonpry: my shunt is 4x a 1% resistor
21:18.04jonpryor 2%
21:18.34Captnoordand it will roughly result in a beeing 0.25% accurate
21:18.40Captnoordnah
21:18.56jonprythats not the point. say pack voltage is 4.00 volts, because it has been sitting for along time, and has surface charge. And current says 15mv across the shunt
21:18.58ToAsTcfhCaptnoord as long as my board file is right it should at least init correct?
21:19.15ToAsTcfhphh: check ur mail
21:19.19Captnoordjonpry: don't worry I study electronics
21:19.21CaptnoordI know what i'm doing
21:19.26phhToAsTcfh: not now
21:19.27Captnoordand I know all about measurement erros
21:19.30Captnoorderrors
21:19.31jonprythen later pack drops to 3.9volts. Current will go up to 15.4mv
21:19.37Captnoordplease
21:19.39Captnoordstop
21:19.46CaptnoordI know that what I am doing is crap
21:20.11Captnoord[23:19] <jonpry> then later pack drops to 3.9volts. Current will go up to 15.4mv
21:20.12Captnoordhmmm
21:20.13Captnoordwhy?
21:20.18ToAsTcfhphh: look what i found. check ur mail it could help
21:20.30Captnoordi'm really hoping you have a idea how I measure it....
21:20.33Captnoordas I think you don't have a clue
21:21.08Captnoordthe battery power supply circuit
21:21.11Captnoordis floating
21:21.26Captnoordresulting in my measurements beeing based on the voltage differencial of the 2 points
21:21.29phhToAsTcfh: funny commit but how would that help me ?
21:21.39Captnoordwhen 'current' runs trough the resistor
21:21.43Captnoordit results in a voltage
21:21.46jonprycaptnoord, because watts are constant in a switchmode device
21:22.12ToAsTcfhphh: idk just thought there was enough code there to do u some good
21:22.18Captnoordjonpry: DUDE....... I know that all... stop talking crap like I don't have a clue what i'm doing
21:22.19phhToAsTcfh: bee ? buzz ? firestone ? latte ? paradise ? orca ?
21:22.20jonpryso for instance, though quite an exaggeration. if pack voltage dropped to 2v. Then the current would double to 30ma
21:22.26jonpryyeah asked why
21:22.31ToAsTcfhi know right
21:22.31jonpryer you
21:22.39CaptnoordI know this all
21:22.46phhCaptnoord: he is right, you're always stating "it's doing XXX mV where mV is the tension on the resistance" ...
21:22.49phheven if you know it
21:22.52phhyou don't give enough infos
21:23.12CaptnoordI know I can only compare 2 readings from small periods of time
21:23.33phhToAsTcfh: we could list of unknown devices with their capability :p
21:24.10ToAsTcfhwell the gsm hero and the evo are in there as well
21:24.16jonpryyou should just measure the current and pack voltage at the same time to normalize it
21:24.24phhCaptnoord: without knowing correctly the charging logic, the voltage can change fairly quickly
21:24.34Captnoordphh true
21:24.44Captnoordbut I do not measure when the battery is fully charged
21:25.01Captnoordcausing the battery to be in the so called 'linear' area
21:25.05Pandemic187anyone know if incubus from XDA is here?
21:25.08Captnoordthe area that isn't linear
21:25.10Captnoordbut hey
21:25.24Captnoord[23:24] <jonpry> you should just measure the current and pack voltage at the same time to normalize it
21:25.25Captnoordtrue
21:25.34Captnoordif I had the correct battery voltage graph
21:25.36Captnoordbut I don't
21:25.58jonprywhy do you need a graph to attach a volt meter?
21:26.08ToAsTcfhbah this stupid eris kernel
21:26.16Captnoordnot only does SMPS have different efficiency on different levels
21:26.22Captnoordlol
21:26.23Captnoordnah
21:26.29ToAsTcfhits close to a heroc but a guess not enough to init
21:26.38CaptnoordI can't compare u * i
21:26.52jonprythat is precisely what you should be doing
21:26.55Captnoordbecause the PSU have variable efficiency
21:26.57Captnoordnope
21:27.04Captnoordi'm only comparing i
21:27.35jonpryso what, right now your numbers are going to be off by ~5%. The difference in efficiency is much smaller. and most importantly monotonic
21:27.36Captnoordand only within a small time moments
21:28.12Captnoordjonpry: instead of talking like that..... come up with a sollution that would be usefull
21:28.18Captnoordnot constantly saying i'm wrong
21:28.20Captnoordor I do shit wrong
21:28.24Captnoordor what ever
21:28.29Captnoordif you don't like it
21:28.31Captnoorddo it yourself
21:28.37Captnoordfor now....
21:28.38Captnoordfor me
21:28.42jonprydude, i'm just trying to give you a suggestion. by all means do it however you like
21:28.43Captnoordits good anough
21:29.05Captnoordjonpry: your pointing out that I have loads of errors in my measurement
21:29.08Captnoordwhich I already knew
21:29.22phhToAsTcfh:  so latte board has bma150, synaptics, akm8973, 3.5mm jack, has espresso names ?!? (espresso = latte it seems), flaslight, s5k4e1gx, proximity sensor (cm3602), curcial... no clue what this is,  600MHz clock,  256MB of memory I think, full qwerty keypad,
21:29.22jonpryjust one. you got all offended about me pointing out what you already know
21:29.25phhand that's all I've got.
21:29.37Captnoordand the sollution you pointed out... won't bring me accurate results
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21:29.45Captnoordas when I do u * i
21:29.55phhright, latte is still 320x480
21:29.56phhcrappy resoltuion
21:30.03CaptnoordI am multiplying 2 variable that are inaccurate in the firstplace
21:30.13Captnoordso I am increasing my error
21:30.30jonprybut they have inverse relationships.
21:30.35Captnoorddo they?
21:30.45jonpryi goes up, v goes down
21:30.54Captnoordi'm not talking about that
21:30.55phhwhat the hell is curcial
21:31.00Captnoordi'm talking about the error
21:31.04Captnoordthe error stays the same
21:31.11Captnoordor fluxuate like hell
21:31.17Captnoordit would result in beeing
21:31.19ToAsTcfhphh: find me a device really close to the heroc
21:31.24ToAsTcfhnot the hero
21:31.26ToAsTcfh:P
21:31.30Captnoord+- 5% * +- 5%
21:31.32phhToAsTcfh: htc won't release any new msm7201 device ...
21:31.35Captnoordin my world
21:31.37Captnoordno matter what
21:31.41Captnoordresults in a error
21:31.45Captnoordof 10%
21:32.13phhCaptnoord: either you assume tension is constant, and you can average your tension result and so give it a <1% error
21:32.22phhor it's not, and it's still not as bad as your current computation
21:32.57jonpryif you want to have a discussion about the mathematics of this, i would be happy to oblige. but if you don't care i don't want to be telling you that you are wrong
21:33.23Captnoordjonpry: i'm not really in the mood for this
21:33.37jonprythen lets not do it :-)
21:33.44phhI haven't done error maths for a while hum
21:33.55phhbut my bed is calling me
21:34.01Captnoordand besides all my screaming about what I measure
21:34.08CaptnoordI don't actualy use it
21:34.30CaptnoordI don't write a paper on it
21:34.31Captnoordwhat ever
21:34.32Captnoordbleh
21:34.34Captnoordcome on
21:34.37Captnoordits DIY
21:34.50Captnoordif I really want to fuck about accuracy
21:34.52Captnoordthe resistor
21:34.56Captnoordthe multimeter
21:34.58Captnoordthe cables
21:35.06Captnoordthe DIY battery dummy
21:35.23Captnoordthe loss on the HF current drain
21:35.41Captnoordbecause of the long lines between the battery and the dummy
21:36.06Captnoordthere is no way to get accurate results in this setup
21:36.09jonpryits a good idea
21:36.39jonprymuch better than nothing
21:36.50jonprywhich is what i have
21:36.53Captnoordif I want accurate results I fix everything to a constant voltage supply
21:37.08jonpryyes, that would do it:-)
21:37.12jonprylike usb?
21:37.17Captnoordlol
21:37.21Captnoordnope.....
21:37.26CaptnoordI need to be on the battery side
21:37.36stinebdnuclear reactor?
21:37.40Captnoordyup
21:37.45Captnoordarc reactor
21:37.54jonpry? my rhod keeps running if i take the battery out and have it attached to usb
21:38.22Captnoordhttp://anta40.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/iron_man_arc.jpg
21:38.27Captnoordyea
21:38.38Captnoordbut that doesn't mean I can use it like its a battery
21:38.43Captnoordbleh
21:38.53Captnoordshould go to bed
21:39.05Captnoordwill give more love the the panel file tomorrow
21:39.15Captnoordmaybe I can merge the diamond and the raphael panel file
21:39.36Captnoordchamonix: sorry .... this discussion took forever
21:39.41Captnoordstill want the kernel?
22:03.16ToAsTcfhuh i left my phone running a non booting kernel for a few minutes and... well now no boot even on a battery pull
22:03.18ToAsTcfh:/
22:03.46ToAsTcfhok nm
22:03.51ToAsTcfhbattery died
22:03.53ToAsTcfhlol
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23:54.46jonpryi got a position report :-)
23:55.03jonpryhaven't managed to decode it yet
23:55.13AstainHellbringnice jonpry
23:55.29jonprythanks
23:58.52jonpryits just sending me thousand upon thousands of bytes that i have no idea what to do with
23:59.50jonpryoh the humanity

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