00:02.13 | jonpry | argh, how do we get it to handle A9 resets? |
00:02.43 | jonpry | toolbox is short on tools |
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01:10.10 | AstainHellbring | hi how goes it? |
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01:27.50 | xsacha | hey guys.. is there any app for turning your phone in to a wireless keyboard |
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01:42.22 | xsacha | oh i found GRemote :) |
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06:37.04 | zipper | hi |
06:37.09 | zipper | i got a question |
06:37.34 | zipper | how can i get my linux to connect with htc mobile device? |
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07:12.01 | jonpry | phh: i commented out all of handle_modem_crash(). this keeps everything running post gps. but rpc is down, so i can't try again. looks like msm_hw_reset_hook is supposed to actually get arm9 running again. Enabling this freezes my phone |
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07:50.45 | NetRipper | ~leo-ramconsole |
07:50.46 | apt | leo-ramconsole is probably pwf myramconsole 0x2FFC0000 0x40000 |
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07:58.56 | Captnoord | re |
07:59.02 | Captnoord | yo NetRipper |
07:59.05 | Captnoord | goeie morgen |
07:59.30 | Captnoord | jonpry: hmmmm yea..... |
07:59.39 | Captnoord | there is something similar in the nk.exe |
07:59.45 | Captnoord | regarding this |
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08:04.13 | NetRipper | mogge |
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08:05.11 | Markinus | hi |
08:05.20 | Captnoord | yo |
08:05.48 | Markinus | codeaurora has a new .32 tree with tv drivers etc. https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/le/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/android-msm-2.6.32 |
08:06.39 | Captnoord | hmmmm |
08:06.41 | Captnoord | cool |
08:08.19 | Markinus | to much repos .. . argh |
08:28.49 | Captnoord | hmmmmmmmmmmm |
08:28.53 | Captnoord | uber hmmmm |
08:29.11 | Captnoord | SMD_PORT_LOOPBACK, |
08:29.24 | Captnoord | seems to be behind SMD_PORT_CS_MODEM_DSP, |
08:29.45 | Captnoord | resulting in the modem sdm id |
08:29.51 | Captnoord | beeing wrong |
08:29.56 | Captnoord | I dono |
08:29.58 | Captnoord | maybe its something |
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10:20.52 | Captnoord | bleh.... when I try to put the modem in suspend.... it reboots |
10:20.53 | Captnoord | bleh |
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13:56.29 | GNUtoo|oeee | hi mickey|office |
13:56.45 | GNUtoo|oeee | do you still have something for sierra modems |
13:56.55 | GNUtoo|oeee | or it disapeared in fso1? |
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14:06.33 | hfctsaot | \o/ |
14:07.01 | hfctsaot | HTC took all that source down |
14:07.12 | hfctsaot | :-( |
14:08.04 | GNUtoo|oeee | which source? |
14:08.09 | GNUtoo|oeee | codeaurora? |
14:09.34 | hfctsaot | No the Eris legend and other stuff |
14:09.58 | GNUtoo|oeee | ah |
14:10.09 | hfctsaot | Developer.htc.com |
14:10.39 | GNUtoo|oeee | ah k |
14:10.48 | hfctsaot | What's happening here today? The logs don't say much |
14:13.12 | GNUtoo|oeee | I don't know |
14:13.42 | GNUtoo|oeee | btw mickey|office did you made the wl1251 ti(non kernel.org) driver work? |
14:13.58 | GNUtoo|oeee | also mickey|office do images compile now? |
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15:14.14 | mickey|office | morning GNUtoo |
15:14.23 | GNUtoo | hi |
15:14.31 | mickey|office | i have little time these days |
15:14.35 | mickey|office | i only did more tests with ad-hoc |
15:14.38 | mickey|office | but everything failed |
15:14.43 | mickey|office | no time to try TIWLAN |
15:15.22 | GNUtoo | ok |
15:15.27 | mickey|office | but i really don't like the idea of a custom 802.11 stack |
15:15.52 | mickey|office | perhaps we can ask on the linux-wireless list about ad-hoc on wl1251 |
15:15.58 | mickey|office | for wl1271 it can be done |
15:16.22 | GNUtoo | ok |
15:16.31 | GNUtoo | I'll ask then I'm suscribed |
15:16.39 | GNUtoo | but let me send an oe mail |
15:16.40 | GNUtoo | before |
15:16.59 | mickey|office | cool, thanks |
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15:59.46 | jonpry | Captnoord: according to the logs phh and cr2 sort of got it working. RPC is supposed to work but DEX dies. Which is weird because DEX should be require to get it running again :-) |
16:01.00 | jonpry | How is rebooting A9 for gps not a bug. Like wouldn't that kill any phonecalls, sound, gprs, 3g..... |
16:02.49 | jonpry | and it so hard to find everything that was in progress and get it running again. Every driver will need support for that (once they all work) |
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16:38.06 | lgirolami | hi |
16:38.44 | lgirolami | anybody here working in the htc-vogue branch at linuxtogo ? |
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16:56.56 | Captnoord | jonpry:gps or modem suspend |
16:59.55 | jonpry | captnoord. i'm working on gps. which seems to reboot A9. when A9 comes back up, i need RPC, could careless about DEX |
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17:05.06 | phh | [23:34:35] <stinebd> phh: that seems reasonable. i was rather surprised that they put stuff that simple in a proprietary library, actually. <-------- perhaps you can make a repo so I'll just have to code ? :D |
17:05.11 | phh | (or you can code too.) |
17:05.28 | phh | [02:07:52] <jonpry> argh, how do we get it to handle A9 resets? <---------- are you really sure we are supposed to ? |
17:05.48 | phh | jonpry: on -gps-workaround branch I've some stuff for surviving A9 resets |
17:06.06 | phh | but it seems to me DEX and RPC won't come back to life |
17:06.38 | phh | jonpry: google ramconsole to get last messages |
17:06.39 | phh | and |
17:06.40 | phh | ~ramconsole |
17:06.41 | apt | well, ramconsole is pwf dm 0x8e0000 0x20000 |
17:07.21 | phh | (command to do in haret) |
17:09.03 | phh | I guess I could trace DEX registers to see wether it resets or not |
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17:14.16 | Captnoord | loooool |
17:14.20 | Captnoord | writel(1,MSM_SHARED_RAM_BASE+0xfc100); |
17:14.20 | Captnoord | writel(readl(MSM_SHARED_RAM_BASE+0xfc108)+1,MSM_SHARED_RAM_BASE+0xfc108); |
17:14.32 | Captnoord | the modem is already beeing notified about the suspend |
17:14.32 | phh | what's that ? |
17:14.33 | Captnoord | lol |
17:14.33 | phh | DEX code ? |
17:14.36 | Captnoord | thats a dex call |
17:14.48 | Captnoord | lol |
17:14.58 | Captnoord | in pm.c |
17:14.59 | phh | why is it lol ? |
17:15.07 | phh | pm.c ?!? |
17:15.20 | Captnoord | its to notify the modem about the suspend |
17:15.49 | Captnoord | but I think we need more than that to make it work |
17:15.56 | Captnoord | we need to fake irq shit |
17:16.06 | Captnoord | so no notify int6 shit |
17:16.19 | Captnoord | same code is in nk.exe btw |
17:16.26 | Captnoord | only some extra shit about VIC |
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17:21.16 | chamonix | hey guys |
17:21.29 | Captnoord | yo |
17:21.35 | chamonix | phh: same modified kernel with SIM but no data and AOSP : 16 hours |
17:21.44 | phh | oO |
17:21.47 | chamonix | testing without SIM tonite |
17:21.49 | phh | might I say that's weird ? |
17:21.53 | phh | ah *with* sim |
17:21.54 | phh | lala. |
17:21.57 | chamonix | lol |
17:22.07 | Captnoord | phh |
17:22.08 | Captnoord | maybe not |
17:22.09 | Captnoord | :P |
17:22.13 | chamonix | yea, I know that's inconsistent to change two params at once :P |
17:22.17 | phh | Captnoord: maybe not what ? |
17:22.28 | Captnoord | nvm |
17:22.30 | phh | Captnoord: so you've seen the modification chamonix is talking about ? |
17:22.35 | Captnoord | nope |
17:22.36 | chamonix | lol |
17:22.42 | Captnoord | that was I wanting to ask |
17:22.45 | Captnoord | but my brain farted |
17:22.46 | phh | Captnoord: your averaging battery stuff |
17:22.53 | phh | I replaced it with only one read without msleep. |
17:22.53 | Captnoord | hehe |
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17:23.13 | Captnoord | does the battery driver sleep? |
17:23.16 | Captnoord | suspend? |
17:23.17 | phh | don't worry, I've no clue why it works. |
17:23.21 | phh | don't know |
17:23.23 | phh | sounds likely |
17:23.31 | Captnoord | hmmmm |
17:25.40 | phh | Captnoord: could you trace wether A9 resets on wince ? :p |
17:26.06 | Captnoord | I was just bussy with a9 suspend |
17:26.07 | Captnoord | adding |
17:26.08 | Captnoord | writel(readl(VIC_INT_MASTEREN) & ~1, VIC_INT_MASTEREN); |
17:26.08 | Captnoord | writel(readl(VIC_INT_SELECT_0) | 0x40, VIC_INT_SELECT_0); |
17:26.08 | Captnoord | writel(readl(VIC_INT_EN_0) | 0x40, VIC_INT_EN_0); |
17:26.08 | Captnoord | writel(readl(VIC_INT_MASTEREN) | 2, VIC_INT_MASTEREN); |
17:26.13 | Captnoord | as its not done on linux |
17:26.16 | Captnoord | but done on wince |
17:26.19 | Captnoord | will do in a moment |
17:26.32 | phh | shouldn't change a thing. |
17:26.37 | Captnoord | dono |
17:27.30 | Captnoord | [19:25] <phh> Captnoord: could you trace wether A9 resets on wince ? :p |
17:27.31 | Captnoord | how? |
17:27.41 | phh | I don't realy know |
17:27.47 | Captnoord | hehe |
17:27.52 | phh | well, you can loop dump the SMSM_RESET reg |
17:28.34 | Captnoord | true |
17:29.36 | Captnoord | hmmm |
17:29.39 | Captnoord | it doesn't crash |
17:29.45 | Captnoord | now measure if it does anything at all |
17:30.06 | Captnoord | in a way the code I pasted is some sort of int6 notify |
17:30.11 | Captnoord | without the hashle |
17:30.17 | phh | meh ? |
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17:37.00 | Captnoord | phh lol |
17:37.47 | Captnoord | hmmm I would say.... |
17:37.51 | Captnoord | guess what the battery drain is |
17:38.30 | Captnoord | wierd shit |
17:38.31 | Captnoord | looooool |
17:38.37 | Captnoord | I think I just got spec battery drain |
17:39.15 | Captnoord | as in.... |
17:39.22 | Captnoord | lol |
17:39.24 | Captnoord | loooool |
17:39.26 | Captnoord | cheers |
17:39.33 | Captnoord | I still can't believe it |
17:40.17 | Captnoord | hmmmmmm |
17:40.38 | Captnoord | lemme boot another kernel |
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17:50.05 | Wout | happy time? Captnoord? |
17:50.37 | Captnoord | nah |
17:50.38 | Captnoord | dono |
17:50.41 | Captnoord | crappy equipment |
17:50.44 | Captnoord | hard to say |
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17:54.50 | Captnoord | yea |
17:54.52 | Captnoord | its lower |
17:54.56 | Captnoord | battery drain is lower |
17:55.01 | phh | really ? |
17:55.02 | Captnoord | but not device spec |
17:55.03 | Captnoord | yup |
17:55.08 | phh | how much ? |
17:55.15 | Wout | by changing what? |
17:55.19 | phh | and do you have any explanation ? :p |
17:55.22 | phh | Wout: disabling VIC |
17:55.27 | Captnoord | nah |
17:55.29 | phh | hum not exactly |
17:55.30 | Captnoord | not disabling vic |
17:55.35 | phh | not at all ok. |
17:55.44 | Wout | what's vic? |
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17:55.49 | Captnoord | looooool |
17:55.50 | Captnoord | crap |
17:55.52 | phh | Wout: interrupts that interrupt interrupts |
17:55.54 | Captnoord | my battery popwed out |
17:55.56 | Captnoord | hahahahahahahah |
17:55.59 | phh | (I swear) |
17:56.02 | Captnoord | needs to boot again |
17:56.02 | phh | Captnoord: lol |
17:56.03 | Captnoord | lolz |
17:58.22 | Captnoord | hooks his multimeter directly to the resistor |
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18:01.54 | Captnoord | while booting varying from 30mV to 60 mV |
18:02.00 | Captnoord | 60ma to 120 ma |
18:02.20 | phh | who cares about booting ? :p |
18:02.23 | Captnoord | lol |
18:02.24 | Captnoord | true |
18:02.26 | Captnoord | so true |
18:02.48 | Captnoord | the problem I now face is that the core I am using contains also some mods on the mmc side |
18:03.02 | Captnoord | but I will build a kernel without it |
18:03.02 | Captnoord | :P |
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18:03.42 | Captnoord | aaahhh crap |
18:03.45 | Captnoord | curses |
18:03.50 | phh | back to old consumption ? |
18:04.00 | Captnoord | battery popped out again |
18:04.18 | phh | lol |
18:04.20 | Captnoord | the system is wrong |
18:04.21 | Captnoord | bleh |
18:04.30 | Captnoord | need to buy a broken battery |
18:04.33 | Captnoord | and use that |
18:04.44 | phh | well, working one aren't really costly. |
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18:09.23 | Captnoord | nothing a bit of superglew can't fix |
18:10.09 | Wout | so, if your readings are correct, this would improve battery life? |
18:10.10 | Captnoord | it was roughly 2.5 - 5mV less |
18:10.20 | Captnoord | yup |
18:10.25 | Captnoord | but I need to verify it bigtime |
18:10.37 | Wout | and might it also fix the wakeup/suspend issue? |
18:10.44 | Captnoord | nope |
18:10.59 | Captnoord | actualy I don't know |
18:11.09 | Captnoord | we dont have anough docs |
18:11.10 | Captnoord | bleh |
18:11.38 | Wout | we really need to befriend someone at qualcomm or htc :P |
18:11.48 | Captnoord | hehe |
18:11.59 | Captnoord | I had my traineeship talk yesterday |
18:12.03 | Captnoord | went pretty good |
18:12.19 | Captnoord | there 'technical' man started to ask me questions |
18:12.21 | Captnoord | I was like |
18:12.22 | Captnoord | wtf |
18:12.28 | Captnoord | didn't expected that |
18:12.50 | Captnoord | got a awnser for all of them |
18:12.52 | Captnoord | so thats good |
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18:13.44 | Wout | what company? |
18:13.44 | phh | Captnoord: perhaps you're not a genius, but still, there are way more people worst than you, than better. |
18:14.41 | Captnoord | its mainly the lack of docs and equipment.... |
18:14.43 | Captnoord | and experience |
18:14.46 | Captnoord | hehe |
18:14.50 | Captnoord | I just started.... |
18:14.57 | Captnoord | Wout.... bleh can't remember the new name |
18:16.04 | Wout | what kind of company? big one? |
18:16.07 | Captnoord | small |
18:16.11 | Captnoord | small team |
18:16.16 | Captnoord | 2 coders |
18:16.19 | Captnoord | 2 hw guys |
18:16.37 | Captnoord | no men in black |
18:16.37 | Captnoord | :D |
18:16.41 | Wout | nice |
18:16.52 | Captnoord | they create a device the cops use.... |
18:16.58 | Captnoord | a recording thiungy |
18:17.09 | Wout | I might write about it some day :P |
18:17.12 | Captnoord | hehe |
18:17.13 | Captnoord | :D |
18:17.16 | Wout | is journalism intern |
18:17.18 | Captnoord | cool |
18:17.27 | Captnoord | [20:13] <phh> Captnoord: perhaps you're not a genius, but still, there are way more people worst than you, than better. |
18:17.35 | Captnoord | i'm not scared of beeing crap at all |
18:17.44 | Captnoord | as I know exactly what I can and can't do |
18:18.02 | dcordes | hi |
18:18.08 | Captnoord | yo |
18:18.31 | Captnoord | phh |
18:18.32 | Captnoord | https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/le/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=commit;h=7b63197e2a63920ee285d34b88f41b7d701f2eaf |
18:18.35 | Captnoord | interesting shit |
18:18.44 | Captnoord | because they can't use the bootloader dma init stuff |
18:18.45 | Captnoord | so |
18:18.52 | Captnoord | they have to reinit everything themselfs |
18:18.52 | phh | it is ? |
18:18.56 | phh | ah. |
18:20.16 | Captnoord | https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/le/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=commit;h=a7283d5c6df3f48f49b45239e683a622fc2b5c6e |
18:20.45 | Captnoord | not so related to our stuff |
18:20.49 | Captnoord | but still interesting |
18:21.21 | phh | O.M.F.G. |
18:21.58 | phh | oh sdio has nothing to do with mmc |
18:22.01 | phh | fiou |
18:23.03 | hfctsaot | Wifi |
18:23.19 | Captnoord | anything |
18:23.24 | phh | hfctsaot: bluetooth |
18:23.32 | hfctsaot | Oh |
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18:23.52 | jonpry2 | hi all |
18:23.57 | phh | hey jonpry2 |
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18:24.23 | hfctsaot | Phh stick around when I get off work I have something for guys |
18:24.23 | jonpry2 | may i suggest that looping for the MSMS_RESET reg won't work. perhaps wirq M2A_NEEDS_RESET would work better |
18:24.26 | jonpry2 | hi phh |
18:24.39 | Zepiii | Hi all. |
18:24.45 | phh | M3A_NEED_RESET ... ? |
18:24.48 | phh | M2A* |
18:24.55 | phh | never heard of that one, which one is it ? |
18:26.03 | jonpry2 | ummm, found it in wiki earlier... |
18:28.03 | jonpry2 | there is IRQ_SOFTRESET on raphael |
18:28.23 | lgirolami | Markinus: ping |
18:28.34 | lgirolami | Markinus: any leo news ? |
18:28.40 | Zepiii | Are you working on the Android port for the HD2 ? |
18:31.57 | Captnoord | lol |
18:31.58 | jonpry2 | phh: i have the log open at home. will check when i get there. The kernel is spinning whenever MSMS_RESET is happening, so there is no user time for HaRET |
18:32.01 | Captnoord | how to fixate superglew |
18:32.03 | Captnoord | baking soda |
18:32.07 | lgirolami | Zepiii: yes |
18:32.41 | lgirolami | Zepiii: well there is some stall situation. we have a problem and nobody knows how it is caused |
18:33.14 | jonpry2 | at this point i am 99% sure that Vial is sending the right rpc data. There is one little thing i don't know about. But it is so unlikely to be killing A9, that it must be rebooting |
18:33.29 | phh | ok |
18:34.30 | jonpry2 | anyone know if it is possible to use the phone while gps is active? |
18:34.47 | Captnoord | hmmm |
18:34.52 | Captnoord | I would say its possible |
18:35.03 | Captnoord | its what I consider normal use |
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18:35.17 | Captnoord | do tom tom on the road |
18:35.22 | Captnoord | and get a call along the way |
18:35.30 | jonpry2 | it definetely would kill the call if a9 reset |
18:35.50 | Captnoord | yup |
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18:36.17 | Captnoord | first try without the vic code |
18:36.20 | jonpry2 | maybe that could be the test. make call, startup gps |
18:36.55 | Captnoord | yup |
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18:38.19 | jonpry2 | there is also some question as to when exactly GPS_Init runs. Could be on boot |
18:39.17 | Captnoord | 17.30 mV on suspend...... without the vic thingy |
18:40.20 | jonpry2 | call does not die when gps is activated |
18:40.30 | Captnoord | k |
18:40.40 | phh | so A9 is not supposed to reset |
18:40.41 | Wout | Captnoord: what was it before? |
18:40.42 | phh | next try :p |
18:41.27 | Captnoord | Wout: that was without it.... so yes... before |
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18:41.47 | jonpry2 | phh: so when a9 calls the all callbacks, should a11 send something back? |
18:41.51 | phh | Captnoord: and after it's ? |
18:41.59 | Captnoord | booting |
18:42.06 | phh | jonpry: ACKs but I'm pretty sure that's already done |
18:42.32 | jonpry2 | like when we call one of the gps procs, it always returns a uin32 |
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18:43.40 | Captnoord | won't change a thing |
18:43.41 | Captnoord | bleh |
18:43.44 | phh | trace it but I'm pretty sure we send ACKs |
18:43.44 | Captnoord | bangs his head |
18:43.50 | phh | Captnoord: that's better. |
18:44.43 | Captnoord | now its time for me to kill the battery shit |
18:45.08 | Captnoord | i'm sure its something very small |
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18:59.04 | Zepiii | Just wanted to say one time again : Thank you for your hardwork to everyone working for the port of Android on the Leo/HD2. I have no skill to help you, so I simply wish you GOOD luck and don't listen to the bastard flaming on XDA ! See you. Zepiii |
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19:03.43 | hfctsaot | BTW did that HTC incredible source help the hd2 guys any? |
19:04.29 | phh | I'm not sure they even read it atm. |
19:04.54 | hfctsaot | phh did u check out the .29 Eris source? |
19:05.23 | phh | hu ? |
19:05.24 | phh | no |
19:05.34 | dcordes | GNUtoo, mickey|zzZZzz http://lists.arm.linux.org.uk/lurker/search/20380101.000000.00000000@ml:linux-arm-kernel,dream.en.html |
19:05.37 | hfctsaot | It has qdsp_comp |
19:05.52 | GNUtoo | dcordes, ok reading |
19:05.52 | phh | hfctsaot: and ? |
19:06.00 | phh | it uses it ? |
19:06.17 | Kensan | dcordes: hi |
19:06.40 | dcordes | I didn't expect anybody is still working on mainlining dream. |
19:06.51 | dcordes | Kensan, hi there |
19:07.16 | phh | dcordes: I think they are |
19:07.24 | phh | their .33 tree has alternatives to wakelock |
19:07.26 | Captnoord | phh |
19:07.30 | phh | Captnoord: |
19:07.30 | Captnoord | battery code disabled |
19:07.32 | GNUtoo | dcordes, the page doesn't load |
19:07.35 | Captnoord | 16.13 mV |
19:07.37 | GNUtoo | takes ages |
19:07.47 | Captnoord | nah not disabled |
19:07.47 | Kensan | dcordes: cool stuff |
19:07.49 | phh | Captnoord: it's the constant charge which change ?!? |
19:07.58 | Captnoord | but I removed my loop |
19:08.14 | Kensan | dcordes: Pavel intermittently posted about things like that in his blog if I recall correctly. |
19:08.16 | dcordes | GNUtoo, http://lists.arm.linux.org.uk/lurker/list/linux-arm-kernel.html just type in dream |
19:08.27 | Parad0XUA | dcordes: they should be working on hd2 instead :) |
19:08.35 | Kensan | dcordes: didn't know he was actively working on mainlining though... |
19:08.45 | Captnoord | hmmmm |
19:08.48 | Captnoord | wierd shit |
19:08.58 | Kensan | GNUtoo: hello there |
19:09.34 | Captnoord | lol |
19:09.41 | GNUtoo | hi |
19:09.42 | Captnoord | I already did 2 things at the same time |
19:09.47 | Captnoord | I change the panel to diamonds one |
19:09.50 | Captnoord | so I can't say |
19:09.51 | Captnoord | bleh |
19:09.54 | phh | Captnoord: pfff |
19:10.13 | Captnoord | slaps himself |
19:10.17 | Captnoord | i'll never learn |
19:10.20 | hfctsaot | phh: yes it uses it |
19:10.29 | Kensan | dcordes: I should be getting a Nexus One next week... |
19:11.01 | dcordes | most importantly they should keep in mind that there are six other very well supported msm7xxxA devices, five msm7xxx (non-A) and plenty of QSD to come |
19:11.06 | hfctsaot | I'm trying to make Eris source heroc source |
19:12.50 | hfctsaot | And this chat is the best on Freenode :-P |
19:12.54 | GNUtoo | ok |
19:16.05 | Captnoord | 16.27mV constant |
19:16.22 | Captnoord | diamonds panel code saves another .14 mV |
19:16.31 | Captnoord | woeps |
19:16.32 | Captnoord | nope |
19:16.38 | Captnoord | battery code shit |
19:16.41 | Captnoord | saves .14 mV |
19:16.52 | Captnoord | diamonds panel code does most |
19:17.00 | GNUtoo | dcordes, still not accessible...I tried with other mirrors,so dream stays in staging and has a lot of patches? |
19:18.16 | dcordes | GNUtoo, for me the website works flawlessly |
19:18.41 | GNUtoo | I bet so,I can ping but not see |
19:20.06 | Captnoord | chamonix: dude..... |
19:20.08 | dcordes | GNUtoo, still trying to find out where they have the code |
19:20.14 | GNUtoo|oeee | I'll try here |
19:20.17 | Captnoord | what where the kernels with the best time |
19:20.19 | Captnoord | old kernels |
19:20.44 | GNUtoo | ok |
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19:22.11 | dcordes | GNUtoo, does it work? |
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19:23.23 | GNUtoo | no I'll work arround it |
19:26.30 | dcordes | Zepiii, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Operating_system_placement.svg |
19:28.53 | GNUtoo | dcordes, works now,using tor |
19:29.02 | dcordes | Zepiii, kernel is the blue thing |
19:29.27 | dcordes | Zepiii, and android mostly the green thing. so you can see it is depending on the kernel |
19:29.59 | Zepiii | dcordes, Yeah I understood that |
19:30.34 | GNUtoo | I wonder how it performs with linus tree |
19:30.43 | GNUtoo | is there another way than serial? |
19:30.53 | Parad0XUA | dcordes is inredible's kernel any helpful? |
19:30.55 | dcordes | serial? |
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19:32.51 | Wout | Captnoord: according to chamonix, zImage.20100328_224950 was the last one working correctly |
19:33.12 | phh | Wout: there is already a workaround in the pipeline for that |
19:33.15 | dcordes | Zepiii, you can't tell how long it takes. you're welcome. |
19:34.13 | dcordes | Parad0XUA, I downloaded the sources from developer.htc.com |
19:34.35 | dcordes | Parad0XUA, didn't look at it closely yet |
19:34.41 | dcordes | Parad0XUA, you? any findings? |
19:35.46 | Captnoord | thanks Wout |
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19:39.36 | dcordes | ~seen LeTama |
19:39.38 | apt | letama <~IceChat7@vau06-1-82-228-252-90.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 2d 6h 4m 18s ago, saying: 'I've just tested my initrd on diamond, works fine. so something is definitely wrong in process creation'. |
19:40.01 | Zepiii_ | @All, thank you very much ! Really cool people here ! See you. Zepiii ! |
19:40.04 | dcordes | Parad0XUA, do you get any output in the codeaurora kernel? |
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19:47.01 | Parad0XUA | dcordes: I didn't have time to mess with it either... compiled it but obviously it didn't even start :) |
19:47.24 | Parad0XUA | which branch from codeaurora? Markinus' stuff you mean? |
19:47.41 | dcordes | yep markinus' gitorious branch |
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19:54.38 | diiishe-away | talk about a bunch of whiners: |
19:54.39 | diiishe-away | http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=120041 |
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19:55.44 | Captnoord | lolz |
19:55.55 | diiishe-away | I'm fairly certain none of the actual devs from this channel have contributed to that discussion. It sounds like a bunch of spoiled whiney impatient kids |
19:55.55 | dcordes | ah the makkonen forum |
19:56.34 | dcordes | it makes no sense to use ppcgeeks for android rom posting |
19:56.40 | dcordes | while there is xda |
19:57.00 | diiishe-away | yeah, but at least in the beginning most of the CDMA progess was on PPCG |
19:57.18 | dcordes | the progress was there? |
19:57.23 | diiishe-away | I guess now that they've merged its a non issue, but I had that show up on my RSS feed, and got a great big WTF |
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19:58.32 | diiishe-away | well, generally PPCG was a more CDMA crowd. MrPippy, etc, had a whole thing going on with more lively discussion there than XDA, at least at first. |
19:59.57 | diiishe-away | I haven't checked it in a while, but I saw that and couldn't beleive how many people agreed with the OP. WTF- the Vogue wasn't fully working until long after its EOL! |
20:00.50 | diiishe-away | Then I got nervous that maybe people really were giving up, until I noticed that I don't think any of these people have ever contributed anything to the project in the first place |
20:01.10 | diiishe-away | they're the early-adopter type who like to jump to the next big thing. |
20:01.15 | Captnoord | phh: 15 mV |
20:01.44 | Captnoord | by messing with the mmc gpio shit |
20:01.45 | phh | Captnoord: with what ? |
20:01.48 | phh | ah |
20:01.50 | phh | weird |
20:01.51 | Captnoord | as its using pullup resistors |
20:01.55 | Captnoord | and if you set it to 0 |
20:02.08 | Captnoord | there runs a current |
20:02.13 | Captnoord | I mean |
20:02.16 | phh | right |
20:02.16 | Captnoord | there is a small current drain |
20:02.46 | Captnoord | but i'll gonna check if enabling the vregs does anthing |
20:02.53 | Captnoord | 14 mV even now |
20:02.55 | Captnoord | lol |
20:03.34 | Captnoord | there is a clock fucking up something |
20:03.36 | Captnoord | I think |
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20:11.26 | makkonen | hey! the ppcgeeks crowd is not my fault! :-p |
20:12.05 | Captnoord | lol |
20:12.05 | Captnoord | :P |
20:12.06 | hfctsaot | WTF ToAsTcfh connection timed out o_0 |
20:12.57 | hfctsaot | Ah ppcgeeks those were the days |
20:13.03 | hfctsaot | Lol |
20:13.38 | hfctsaot | Xda is becoming ppcgeeks |
20:14.10 | hfctsaot | Well the cdma forums at least |
20:15.01 | hfctsaot | Captnoord any luck? |
20:16.18 | Captnoord | nah |
20:16.20 | Captnoord | not anough |
20:18.10 | hfctsaot | Lol |
20:18.58 | hfctsaot | Well I got .29 Eris source so now I'm trying to make it cdma hero source |
20:19.37 | hfctsaot | Which is a bigger pain then I thought |
20:21.10 | hfctsaot | I still need to see what the board file looks like for the heroc to get it to init |
20:21.45 | hfctsaot | It compiles so that's a plus |
20:22.15 | diiishe-away | only goes back to ppcgeeks because of some friends and nostalgia. |
20:22.56 | diiishe-away | Used to be XDA is where its at for generic WM stuff, and PPCG was good for CDMA-specific stuff (since we're a smaller crowd in comparison) |
20:23.25 | diiishe-away | now, I find most of the conversation on PPCG infuriatingly imbecile |
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20:40.13 | Captnoord | Markinus: I think if we would add the panel code.... the fb_console would work..... |
20:40.19 | Captnoord | its more of a feeling |
20:40.26 | Captnoord | can't explain |
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21:07.14 | ToAsTcfh | Captnoord: u still here |
21:08.02 | chamonix | Captnoord: 0328 was in the row the last one with battery > 20 hours, the commit that broke that are in battery_smem |
21:08.38 | chamonix | the fix that works is to a) remove the loop < 5 for caculating the avg _plus_ get rid of the sleep |
21:10.17 | Captnoord | i'm still here |
21:10.30 | chamonix | http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/commit/0958a2031641c4bf359f59cb4523014f55deb462 line 669 and 679 |
21:11.28 | chamonix | of course the fix is dirty as it removes the purpose of the commit |
21:11.32 | Captnoord | yea yea I know its my code |
21:11.41 | Captnoord | the purpose is crap anyway |
21:11.58 | Captnoord | I now got nice results with the diamond panel code |
21:12.04 | Captnoord | 16.25 mv lowest |
21:12.13 | Captnoord | 18.88 mv highest |
21:12.21 | Captnoord | ./ 0.5 |
21:12.21 | chamonix | only diam or raph too? |
21:12.22 | Captnoord | or |
21:12.25 | Captnoord | x 2 |
21:12.26 | phh | and before it was 17mV ? |
21:12.31 | Captnoord | yup |
21:12.37 | Captnoord | 17.4 |
21:12.52 | Captnoord | I copy pasted the diamonds to the raph panel |
21:13.03 | Captnoord | my hw is exactly the same so it works |
21:13.10 | phh | http://www.hardkernel.com/store.php |
21:13.12 | phh | wwwwwwwwwwwhhhhhhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy |
21:13.38 | phh | just when I got enough money to get one |
21:13.45 | Captnoord | hahahahahhahahahahaahahah |
21:14.07 | Captnoord | phh I pushed a commit to re-enable mmc vreg switching |
21:14.15 | phh | Captnoord: meh ? |
21:14.18 | phh | and it helps ? |
21:14.19 | Captnoord | but I disabled the vreg voltage stuff |
21:14.29 | Captnoord | so it only enables / disables the vreg |
21:14.35 | Captnoord | yup it helps |
21:14.43 | phh | ah ok |
21:15.06 | Captnoord | in my build I also disabled the sleeping led effect |
21:15.08 | phh | it will end with an acer liquid perhaps |
21:15.10 | phh | not same price. |
21:15.42 | Captnoord | hmmmm |
21:16.07 | Captnoord | so my build would give me a battery life ( suspended only ) off 35 - 41 hours |
21:16.18 | phh | hum |
21:16.23 | phh | give that to chamonix. |
21:16.27 | chamonix | :) |
21:16.33 | chamonix | my phone does nothing but sleep |
21:16.36 | Captnoord | k |
21:17.27 | jonpry | Captnoord, you realize that the power supply will trade volts for amps. So voltage variation from draining/sitting or whatever will cause a proportional change in current. Your shunt thing is probably not accurate to the 5% or so you are looking at |
21:18.01 | Captnoord | jonpry: my shunt is 4x a 1% resistor |
21:18.04 | jonpry | or 2% |
21:18.34 | Captnoord | and it will roughly result in a beeing 0.25% accurate |
21:18.40 | Captnoord | nah |
21:18.56 | jonpry | thats not the point. say pack voltage is 4.00 volts, because it has been sitting for along time, and has surface charge. And current says 15mv across the shunt |
21:18.58 | ToAsTcfh | Captnoord as long as my board file is right it should at least init correct? |
21:19.15 | ToAsTcfh | phh: check ur mail |
21:19.19 | Captnoord | jonpry: don't worry I study electronics |
21:19.21 | Captnoord | I know what i'm doing |
21:19.26 | phh | ToAsTcfh: not now |
21:19.27 | Captnoord | and I know all about measurement erros |
21:19.30 | Captnoord | errors |
21:19.31 | jonpry | then later pack drops to 3.9volts. Current will go up to 15.4mv |
21:19.37 | Captnoord | please |
21:19.39 | Captnoord | stop |
21:19.46 | Captnoord | I know that what I am doing is crap |
21:20.11 | Captnoord | [23:19] <jonpry> then later pack drops to 3.9volts. Current will go up to 15.4mv |
21:20.12 | Captnoord | hmmm |
21:20.13 | Captnoord | why? |
21:20.18 | ToAsTcfh | phh: look what i found. check ur mail it could help |
21:20.30 | Captnoord | i'm really hoping you have a idea how I measure it.... |
21:20.33 | Captnoord | as I think you don't have a clue |
21:21.08 | Captnoord | the battery power supply circuit |
21:21.11 | Captnoord | is floating |
21:21.26 | Captnoord | resulting in my measurements beeing based on the voltage differencial of the 2 points |
21:21.29 | phh | ToAsTcfh: funny commit but how would that help me ? |
21:21.39 | Captnoord | when 'current' runs trough the resistor |
21:21.43 | Captnoord | it results in a voltage |
21:21.46 | jonpry | captnoord, because watts are constant in a switchmode device |
21:22.12 | ToAsTcfh | phh: idk just thought there was enough code there to do u some good |
21:22.18 | Captnoord | jonpry: DUDE....... I know that all... stop talking crap like I don't have a clue what i'm doing |
21:22.19 | phh | ToAsTcfh: bee ? buzz ? firestone ? latte ? paradise ? orca ? |
21:22.20 | jonpry | so for instance, though quite an exaggeration. if pack voltage dropped to 2v. Then the current would double to 30ma |
21:22.26 | jonpry | yeah asked why |
21:22.31 | ToAsTcfh | i know right |
21:22.31 | jonpry | er you |
21:22.39 | Captnoord | I know this all |
21:22.46 | phh | Captnoord: he is right, you're always stating "it's doing XXX mV where mV is the tension on the resistance" ... |
21:22.49 | phh | even if you know it |
21:22.52 | phh | you don't give enough infos |
21:23.12 | Captnoord | I know I can only compare 2 readings from small periods of time |
21:23.33 | phh | ToAsTcfh: we could list of unknown devices with their capability :p |
21:24.10 | ToAsTcfh | well the gsm hero and the evo are in there as well |
21:24.16 | jonpry | you should just measure the current and pack voltage at the same time to normalize it |
21:24.24 | phh | Captnoord: without knowing correctly the charging logic, the voltage can change fairly quickly |
21:24.34 | Captnoord | phh true |
21:24.44 | Captnoord | but I do not measure when the battery is fully charged |
21:25.01 | Captnoord | causing the battery to be in the so called 'linear' area |
21:25.05 | Pandemic187 | anyone know if incubus from XDA is here? |
21:25.08 | Captnoord | the area that isn't linear |
21:25.10 | Captnoord | but hey |
21:25.24 | Captnoord | [23:24] <jonpry> you should just measure the current and pack voltage at the same time to normalize it |
21:25.25 | Captnoord | true |
21:25.34 | Captnoord | if I had the correct battery voltage graph |
21:25.36 | Captnoord | but I don't |
21:25.58 | jonpry | why do you need a graph to attach a volt meter? |
21:26.08 | ToAsTcfh | bah this stupid eris kernel |
21:26.16 | Captnoord | not only does SMPS have different efficiency on different levels |
21:26.22 | Captnoord | lol |
21:26.23 | Captnoord | nah |
21:26.29 | ToAsTcfh | its close to a heroc but a guess not enough to init |
21:26.38 | Captnoord | I can't compare u * i |
21:26.52 | jonpry | that is precisely what you should be doing |
21:26.55 | Captnoord | because the PSU have variable efficiency |
21:26.57 | Captnoord | nope |
21:27.04 | Captnoord | i'm only comparing i |
21:27.35 | jonpry | so what, right now your numbers are going to be off by ~5%. The difference in efficiency is much smaller. and most importantly monotonic |
21:27.36 | Captnoord | and only within a small time moments |
21:28.12 | Captnoord | jonpry: instead of talking like that..... come up with a sollution that would be usefull |
21:28.18 | Captnoord | not constantly saying i'm wrong |
21:28.20 | Captnoord | or I do shit wrong |
21:28.24 | Captnoord | or what ever |
21:28.29 | Captnoord | if you don't like it |
21:28.31 | Captnoord | do it yourself |
21:28.37 | Captnoord | for now.... |
21:28.38 | Captnoord | for me |
21:28.42 | jonpry | dude, i'm just trying to give you a suggestion. by all means do it however you like |
21:28.43 | Captnoord | its good anough |
21:29.05 | Captnoord | jonpry: your pointing out that I have loads of errors in my measurement |
21:29.08 | Captnoord | which I already knew |
21:29.22 | phh | ToAsTcfh: so latte board has bma150, synaptics, akm8973, 3.5mm jack, has espresso names ?!? (espresso = latte it seems), flaslight, s5k4e1gx, proximity sensor (cm3602), curcial... no clue what this is, 600MHz clock, 256MB of memory I think, full qwerty keypad, |
21:29.22 | jonpry | just one. you got all offended about me pointing out what you already know |
21:29.25 | phh | and that's all I've got. |
21:29.37 | Captnoord | and the sollution you pointed out... won't bring me accurate results |
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21:29.45 | Captnoord | as when I do u * i |
21:29.55 | phh | right, latte is still 320x480 |
21:29.56 | phh | crappy resoltuion |
21:30.03 | Captnoord | I am multiplying 2 variable that are inaccurate in the firstplace |
21:30.13 | Captnoord | so I am increasing my error |
21:30.30 | jonpry | but they have inverse relationships. |
21:30.35 | Captnoord | do they? |
21:30.45 | jonpry | i goes up, v goes down |
21:30.54 | Captnoord | i'm not talking about that |
21:30.55 | phh | what the hell is curcial |
21:31.00 | Captnoord | i'm talking about the error |
21:31.04 | Captnoord | the error stays the same |
21:31.11 | Captnoord | or fluxuate like hell |
21:31.17 | Captnoord | it would result in beeing |
21:31.19 | ToAsTcfh | phh: find me a device really close to the heroc |
21:31.24 | ToAsTcfh | not the hero |
21:31.26 | ToAsTcfh | :P |
21:31.30 | Captnoord | +- 5% * +- 5% |
21:31.32 | phh | ToAsTcfh: htc won't release any new msm7201 device ... |
21:31.35 | Captnoord | in my world |
21:31.37 | Captnoord | no matter what |
21:31.41 | Captnoord | results in a error |
21:31.45 | Captnoord | of 10% |
21:32.13 | phh | Captnoord: either you assume tension is constant, and you can average your tension result and so give it a <1% error |
21:32.22 | phh | or it's not, and it's still not as bad as your current computation |
21:32.57 | jonpry | if you want to have a discussion about the mathematics of this, i would be happy to oblige. but if you don't care i don't want to be telling you that you are wrong |
21:33.23 | Captnoord | jonpry: i'm not really in the mood for this |
21:33.37 | jonpry | then lets not do it :-) |
21:33.44 | phh | I haven't done error maths for a while hum |
21:33.55 | phh | but my bed is calling me |
21:34.01 | Captnoord | and besides all my screaming about what I measure |
21:34.08 | Captnoord | I don't actualy use it |
21:34.30 | Captnoord | I don't write a paper on it |
21:34.31 | Captnoord | what ever |
21:34.32 | Captnoord | bleh |
21:34.34 | Captnoord | come on |
21:34.37 | Captnoord | its DIY |
21:34.50 | Captnoord | if I really want to fuck about accuracy |
21:34.52 | Captnoord | the resistor |
21:34.56 | Captnoord | the multimeter |
21:34.58 | Captnoord | the cables |
21:35.06 | Captnoord | the DIY battery dummy |
21:35.23 | Captnoord | the loss on the HF current drain |
21:35.41 | Captnoord | because of the long lines between the battery and the dummy |
21:36.06 | Captnoord | there is no way to get accurate results in this setup |
21:36.09 | jonpry | its a good idea |
21:36.39 | jonpry | much better than nothing |
21:36.50 | jonpry | which is what i have |
21:36.53 | Captnoord | if I want accurate results I fix everything to a constant voltage supply |
21:37.08 | jonpry | yes, that would do it:-) |
21:37.12 | jonpry | like usb? |
21:37.17 | Captnoord | lol |
21:37.21 | Captnoord | nope..... |
21:37.26 | Captnoord | I need to be on the battery side |
21:37.36 | stinebd | nuclear reactor? |
21:37.40 | Captnoord | yup |
21:37.45 | Captnoord | arc reactor |
21:37.54 | jonpry | ? my rhod keeps running if i take the battery out and have it attached to usb |
21:38.22 | Captnoord | http://anta40.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/iron_man_arc.jpg |
21:38.27 | Captnoord | yea |
21:38.38 | Captnoord | but that doesn't mean I can use it like its a battery |
21:38.43 | Captnoord | bleh |
21:38.53 | Captnoord | should go to bed |
21:39.05 | Captnoord | will give more love the the panel file tomorrow |
21:39.15 | Captnoord | maybe I can merge the diamond and the raphael panel file |
21:39.36 | Captnoord | chamonix: sorry .... this discussion took forever |
21:39.41 | Captnoord | still want the kernel? |
22:03.16 | ToAsTcfh | uh i left my phone running a non booting kernel for a few minutes and... well now no boot even on a battery pull |
22:03.18 | ToAsTcfh | :/ |
22:03.46 | ToAsTcfh | ok nm |
22:03.51 | ToAsTcfh | battery died |
22:03.53 | ToAsTcfh | lol |
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23:54.46 | jonpry | i got a position report :-) |
23:55.03 | jonpry | haven't managed to decode it yet |
23:55.13 | AstainHellbring | nice jonpry |
23:55.29 | jonpry | thanks |
23:58.52 | jonpry | its just sending me thousand upon thousands of bytes that i have no idea what to do with |
23:59.50 | jonpry | oh the humanity |