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| 00:22.15 | Cablekevin | omfg... |
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| 01:26.43 | ToAsTcfh | <4>[ 3.457916] msm_cpufreq_target 528000 r 0 (528000-595200) selected 595200 |
| 01:26.45 | ToAsTcfh | <7>[ 3.457977] acpuclock: Switching VDD from 0 -> 7 |
| 01:26.47 | ToAsTcfh | <7>[ 3.458068] acpuclock: VDD switched |
| 01:26.48 | ToAsTcfh | <6>[ 3.458068] acpuclock: Switching from ACPU rate 480000000 -> 595200000 |
| 01:26.50 | ToAsTcfh | <7>[ 3.458099] acpuclk_set_rate: STEP khz = 595200, pll = 2 |
| 01:26.52 | ToAsTcfh | <7>[ 3.458648] acpuclk_set_rate: ACPU speed change complete |
| 01:26.54 | ToAsTcfh | phh: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
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| 02:42.33 | ToAsTcfh | phh: my issue is here > <4>[ 2.831604] Suboptimal up stepping for CPU freq 245760 KHz. |
| 02:42.57 | ToAsTcfh | <6>[ 2.832580] 245760 0 1 81920 3 61440 -1 7 |
| 02:42.59 | ToAsTcfh | <6>[ 2.832580] 320000 1 3 107000 3 120000 2 6 |
| 02:43.46 | ToAsTcfh | i need to jump up to this in stead. but its not allowing my to decide that from acpuclock |
| 02:45.12 | ToAsTcfh | { 245760, ACPU_PLL_0, 4, 0, 81920, 2, VDD_4, 61440, 0, 0, 5 }, |
| 02:45.13 | ToAsTcfh | { 352000, ACPU_PLL_2, 2, 2, 88000, 3, VDD_5, 128000, 0, 3, 7 }, |
| 02:46.04 | ToAsTcfh | im stuck at 245760 |
| 02:46.36 | ToAsTcfh | but the funny think is im getting everything else saying im at 600 |
| 02:46.50 | ToAsTcfh | well 600mhz |
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| 03:52.38 | tmzt_ | ToAsTcfh: did you fix that writel stuff? |
| 03:52.48 | tmzt_ | it's just syntax, not too much different from math |
| 03:56.41 | tmzt_ | [acl]: there's logs, this place is pretty busy at times |
| 03:56.45 | tmzt_ | what are you looking for? |
| 04:04.46 | [acl] | im reading logs now and catching up. been away for a while |
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| 15:44.19 | leviathan | heyo |
| 15:44.35 | leviathan | does someone have an idea, why jffs2 doesnt work on htcdream? |
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| 16:15.26 | phh | leviathan: block size I think |
| 16:15.42 | phh | jffs2 might need 512byte block size, and your nand provides only with 2048 ones |
| 16:15.56 | phh | but I can be wrong |
| 16:16.27 | leviathan | hmm |
| 16:16.28 | leviathan | ok |
| 16:16.47 | leviathan | I know cr2 and you had the same error once again |
| 16:16.52 | leviathan | found it in irc logs |
| 16:16.59 | leviathan | anyway |
| 16:17.07 | leviathan | I'm try'n squashfs for now |
| 16:17.10 | leviathan | hope it works |
| 16:17.11 | leviathan | >_< |
| 16:17.33 | AstainHellbring | morning |
| 16:17.44 | gauner1986 | gevening |
| 16:23.44 | phh | http://gitorious.org/+kovsky-linux-msm/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm-xdadev/commit/5afc680a980d5d1b0a29c603a4b71b20661027a5.diff <------ why can't people do clean commits ? |
| 16:26.05 | leviathan | phh: is there a possibility to make jffs2 use the hardwares runnable parameters? |
| 16:26.19 | leviathan | or short term: can I use jffs2 somehow in htcdream? |
| 16:27.14 | phh | I can't think of any way |
| 16:29.28 | leviathan | is there a way of using ubifs on htcdream? |
| 16:29.58 | phh | I don't know |
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| 16:30.19 | phh | I think it can since it has some glue around mtd |
| 16:30.30 | phh | but I wouldn't bet on it |
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| 16:39.07 | leviathan | ok |
| 16:39.24 | leviathan | it seems they wrote such bloody minimalistic code |
| 16:39.40 | leviathan | that the driver for mtd only allows f**n uncompressed yaffs2 images |
| 16:39.42 | leviathan | right? |
| 16:39.49 | leviathan | who should I shoot for that? |
| 16:41.30 | leviathan | perhaps I should force mkfs.ubifs to this blocksize you told me |
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| 17:26.41 | ToAsTcfh | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:29.26 | phh | sure |
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| 18:24.22 | bombenbach | phh: concerning your kernel builds on glemsom.anapnea |
| 18:24.29 | phh | yup ? |
| 18:24.34 | bombenbach | do they boot on Kovsky? |
| 18:24.40 | phh | I don't know |
| 18:24.51 | phh | it should |
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| 18:25.19 | phh | kovsky users have their own community, and almost never talked to me |
| 18:25.33 | phh | sometimes I get some report and I know what to do, so there are some patches for them |
| 18:26.00 | phh | so now afaik it boots but with wrong screen orientation |
| 18:26.20 | phh | bombenbach: btw, did you see the link I pasted for flashlite 3.1 on firefox arm ? |
| 18:26.21 | bombenbach | phh: thx, I'd like Rhobuntu to support more devices |
| 18:26.35 | phh | me too |
| 18:26.39 | phh | not specially rhobuntu |
| 18:27.09 | bombenbach | phh: yes, but flash with Kdrive? do you think it might work well? |
| 18:27.14 | phh | no clue |
| 18:28.05 | bombenbach | that xandroid init script is really nice. it detects the device used and activates bcm4329 or wl1251 |
| 18:28.39 | bombenbach | because there are also some blackstone people out there using rhobuntu ... |
| 18:28.59 | bombenbach | phh: btw, what about kaiser+ your kernel builds? |
| 18:29.08 | phh | no way |
| 18:29.24 | bombenbach | is there a similar kaiser kernel build? |
| 18:29.31 | phh | don't know |
| 18:29.49 | phh | (i'm not really useful there uh ?) |
| 18:30.46 | bombenbach | phh: without you this channel would be too frustrating ;) |
| 18:31.09 | bombenbach | for all the people with their special htc hacking questions |
| 18:32.38 | phh | hum it seems flashplayer needs Xshm, which isn't handled by Kdrive |
| 18:32.42 | phh | but it's still worth a try. |
| 18:33.19 | phh | (and you can fallback to xorg server) |
| 18:44.22 | ToAsTcfh | phh:what up |
| 18:44.52 | ToAsTcfh | did u see the messages i sent> |
| 18:47.23 | ToAsTcfh | phh: will this stop it from stepping? |
| 18:47.28 | ToAsTcfh | <4>[ 2.368774] Suboptimal up stepping for CPU freq 245760 KHz. |
| 18:48.06 | ToAsTcfh | i know its an error but is it some ur stuck till u get a optimal step up |
| 18:50.43 | ToAsTcfh | anyhow i got the readl lines in there. but still havent enabled /dev/mem for the dumping |
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| 19:01.48 | bombenbach | phh: thanks, I'll give it a try. |
| 19:01.56 | bombenbach | I might also try this http://tinyurl.com/yd4l3sq though |
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| 19:14.36 | ToAsTcfh | phh: ok i enabled demem |
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| 21:08.38 | dcordes | knock knock |
| 21:08.47 | dcordes | drops 2 hands full of pins |
| 21:09.38 | ToAsTcfh | lol |
| 21:09.52 | AstainHellbring | screams as pins hit foot |
| 21:10.02 | ToAsTcfh | rofl |
| 21:10.20 | Captnoord | re |
| 21:11.09 | dcordes | ^^ |
| 21:11.27 | Captnoord | hmmm got viewbin working.... |
| 21:11.38 | dcordes | AstainHellbring, very sorry |
| 21:11.46 | Captnoord | in a way I hate pudn as they don't offer downloads |
| 21:11.48 | Captnoord | but I love them |
| 21:11.48 | AstainHellbring | lol eh no biggie |
| 21:11.53 | Captnoord | because they offer the files |
| 21:11.55 | Captnoord | bleh |
| 21:11.58 | Captnoord | its hell to find them |
| 21:11.59 | ToAsTcfh | viewbin? |
| 21:12.11 | Captnoord | yea microsoft rom tool |
| 21:12.16 | ToAsTcfh | :/ |
| 21:12.18 | ToAsTcfh | lol |
| 21:12.19 | Captnoord | easier to read than itsme stuff |
| 21:12.28 | Captnoord | sorry... I love the guy for developing it |
| 21:12.32 | ToAsTcfh | ah i see |
| 21:12.33 | Captnoord | but hell... please clean it up |
| 21:12.49 | dcordes | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms938075.aspx |
| 21:12.50 | Captnoord | itsme... if you read this... we could do it together.... |
| 21:12.58 | AstainHellbring | anyone have a windshield mount for hd2 they like? |
| 21:13.00 | ToAsTcfh | lol |
| 21:13.01 | Captnoord | dcordes: yea |
| 21:13.43 | ToAsTcfh | so i take it everyone has given up or getting the camera to work |
| 21:13.51 | Captnoord | nah.... |
| 21:13.54 | dcordes | ToAsTcfh, which? |
| 21:13.57 | Captnoord | I didn't even start to try |
| 21:13.57 | ToAsTcfh | any |
| 21:14.35 | ToAsTcfh | i just wanna see msm_camera backported to .27 |
| 21:14.49 | ToAsTcfh | well .29 msm_camera |
| 21:14.59 | dcordes | second google result on viewbin query: "Instant View: Bin Laden threatens Americans with execution | Reuters" |
| 21:15.03 | Captnoord | ToAsTcfh: why not use the .32 stuff |
| 21:15.07 | Captnoord | dcordes: hehe |
| 21:15.15 | Captnoord | I can wrap it up for ya |
| 21:15.17 | Captnoord | if you like |
| 21:15.54 | ToAsTcfh | idk i used the .29 and ended up with what phh commited |
| 21:16.11 | dcordes | ToAsTcfh, so you use the 2.6.27 phh because it's theo nly one available but need features from the updated camera driver? |
| 21:16.24 | ToAsTcfh | but vfetask isnt the no |
| 21:16.25 | dcordes | s/phh/phh kernel/ |
| 21:16.35 | Captnoord | dcordes: pm |
| 21:17.01 | ToAsTcfh | i use .27 because i ave a hero and its the only source i have |
| 21:18.01 | ToAsTcfh | i need the .29 msm_camera for eclair libs |
| 21:18.27 | ToAsTcfh | or .32 whatever is easier |
| 21:19.09 | ToAsTcfh | i backported .29 camera already and ended up with the same thing maejrep and phh did |
| 21:19.20 | dcordes | ToAsTcfh, hero support dropped in newer kernels?? |
| 21:19.35 | ToAsTcfh | no even in them yet |
| 21:20.02 | ToAsTcfh | i have a .29 kernel that wa leaked but i want source and dont have it |
| 21:20.49 | ToAsTcfh | so i figure get the drivers into .27 because i have that source |
| 21:21.00 | dcordes | gpl violation!!1 |
| 21:21.05 | ToAsTcfh | lol |
| 21:21.31 | dcordes | sue them or wait |
| 21:21.54 | ToAsTcfh | yeah htc sux for releasing source in a timely manner |
| 21:22.08 | dcordes | well there's a reason you are running into problems with newer android version on older phone |
| 21:22.15 | dcordes | get it |
| 21:22.51 | ToAsTcfh | well htc has made a eclair for the hero already |
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| 21:23.31 | ToAsTcfh | and will be releasing it soon. but that still leaves us waiting like 8 months for source |
| 21:24.31 | ToAsTcfh | we managed to backport every other driver for eclair to .27. all thats left is camera for us |
| 21:25.13 | ToAsTcfh | plus i hope i can get this damn overclocking deal to work |
| 21:25.17 | dcordes | it sucks big time that there is any need for that |
| 21:25.36 | ToAsTcfh | yeah |
| 21:26.09 | dcordes | if they would be using linux standards there would be no need for any hassle like this |
| 21:26.12 | ToAsTcfh | also htc messed up and made our .29 kernel not compatible with aosp touch drivers |
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| 21:26.39 | dcordes | but as you see it gives them some level of control |
| 21:26.47 | ToAsTcfh | yep |
| 21:26.49 | dcordes | so it's not without reasons |
| 21:28.15 | ToAsTcfh | yeah i know . i backported the synaptics driver from .29 with no issues and got full ultitouch and all with .27 in eclair. is obvious that htc did this touch thing on purpose |
| 21:29.13 | ToAsTcfh | so although we have a .29 binary kernel. its useless unless were gonna use it in a htc leaked build |
| 21:30.46 | dcordes | mickey|bbl, any groundbreaking progress with dream gnu/linux ? |
| 21:32.02 | ToAsTcfh | anyone know any thing about the code in the new acpuclock.c u guys use? |
| 21:32.41 | ToAsTcfh | <4>[ 3.025726] Suboptimal up stepping for CPU freq 245760 KHz. |
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| 21:33.04 | ToAsTcfh | will this error stop the cpu from stepping up |
| 21:33.05 | mickeyl | dcordes: hmm, yes and no |
| 21:33.09 | mickeyl | the good: |
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| 21:33.22 | mickeyl | wifi comes up and works like a charm |
| 21:33.29 | mickeyl | alsa audio is almost ok |
| 21:33.36 | mickeyl | the bad |
| 21:33.48 | mickeyl | wifi crashes the whole machine on ifconfig wlan0 down |
| 21:33.51 | mickeyl | the ugly |
| 21:34.01 | mickeyl | suspend/resume is completely broken, reason unknown |
| 21:34.11 | ToAsTcfh | damn |
| 21:34.13 | dcordes | do you use the normal driver? |
| 21:34.16 | dcordes | for wifi |
| 21:34.24 | mickeyl | wl12xx, yes |
| 21:34.30 | dcordes | nice |
| 21:34.31 | mickeyl | not the proprietary TI thing |
| 21:34.33 | mickeyl | well |
| 21:34.37 | mickeyl | the hang is not nice |
| 21:34.41 | dcordes | does aireplay work? :) |
| 21:34.43 | mickeyl | need to remove battery |
| 21:34.49 | mickeyl | what's that? |
| 21:34.51 | mickeyl | bbiab |
| 21:35.02 | ToAsTcfh | monitor mode?! |
| 21:35.24 | dcordes | monitor mode is not as difficult as injection |
| 21:35.52 | ToAsTcfh | i seen the cliq guys were going for monitor mode and couldnt do it |
| 21:36.00 | dcordes | well should be documented somewhere |
| 21:36.10 | dcordes | cliq ? |
| 21:36.23 | ToAsTcfh | a phone |
| 21:36.38 | ToAsTcfh | moto |
| 21:37.07 | ToAsTcfh | heh im bored ill try monitor mode |
| 21:37.24 | ToAsTcfh | overclocking has stressed me the hell out |
| 21:38.28 | ToAsTcfh | mickeyl: are u guys booting it like they do on the nexus? |
| 21:38.33 | ToAsTcfh | fastboot |
| 21:38.44 | ToAsTcfh | put the build on the sd |
| 21:39.08 | ToAsTcfh | they got debian running natively |
| 21:39.18 | ToAsTcfh | wifi working and such |
| 21:39.34 | tmzt_ | dcordes: why is that? they both use radiotap |
| 21:40.01 | dcordes | tmzt_, unqualified rant as always ;) |
| 21:40.13 | dcordes | tmzt_, well somebody told me. |
| 21:40.36 | dcordes | ToAsTcfh, didn't mean to misinform |
| 21:40.45 | ToAsTcfh | :/ |
| 21:40.56 | ToAsTcfh | so it cant be done? |
| 21:41.10 | tmzt_ | the hard part is multi interfaces for the injection to work |
| 21:41.20 | tmzt_ | is this is a mac80211 driver? |
| 21:41.27 | tmzt_ | and does the firmware support it? |
| 21:41.31 | ToAsTcfh | id be happy just for monitor mode |
| 21:41.40 | tmzt_ | which driver? |
| 21:41.45 | mickeyl | ToAsTcfh: yes, right now we use fastboot w/ rootfs on SD |
| 21:42.14 | mickeyl | well, until we don't get the wifi to survive up/down, there's little interest in trying out monitor mode |
| 21:42.17 | ToAsTcfh | mickeyl: tru yeah i was gonna try that on the hero |
| 21:42.35 | tmzt_ | why doesn'i it? |
| 21:42.55 | tmzt_ | is userspace being used to load the firmware? |
| 21:42.57 | mickeyl | kernel crash |
| 21:43.00 | mickeyl | yes |
| 21:43.11 | mickeyl | like i say, everything works like a charm |
| 21:43.18 | mickeyl | except shutting down the interface |
| 21:43.22 | mickeyl | let me dig out a log |
| 21:43.48 | ToAsTcfh | mickeyl: yeah id prolly never use monitor mode on the hero but it would just besweet to have. but yeah i guess u gotta have wifi workin first:P |
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| 21:44.28 | mickeyl | http://pastie.org/913206 |
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| 21:44.45 | ToAsTcfh | mickeyl: so does touch and a lot of other stuff work yet? |
| 21:44.47 | mickeyl | ifconfig wlan0 up @ Apr 10 19:42:40 |
| 21:45.02 | mickeyl | ifconfig wlan0 down @ Apr 10 19:43:09 |
| 21:45.20 | ToAsTcfh | my issues would be no keyboard i guess |
| 21:45.25 | mickeyl | ToAsTcfh: framebuffer, touchscreen, buttons, leds, audio, phone, keyboard |
| 21:45.28 | mickeyl | all fine |
| 21:45.40 | ToAsTcfh | hmmm |
| 21:45.45 | mickeyl | umts |
| 21:45.55 | ToAsTcfh | out the box or u had to fix it up |
| 21:45.56 | mickeyl | no bluetooth, no gps, wifi crashes |
| 21:46.08 | mickeyl | ToAsTcfh: small tweaks to the android hell |
| 21:46.21 | mickeyl | to make the kernel more GNU-alike |
| 21:47.06 | ToAsTcfh | yeah i seen some small tweeks needed on the nexus thread. is that all u did? |
| 21:47.47 | ToAsTcfh | all kernel stuff from what i seen |
| 21:47.49 | mickeyl | dunno, never looked into nexus |
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| 21:47.56 | dcordes | ToAsTcfh, they got the dream |
| 21:47.59 | mickeyl | what we did was small things like |
| 21:48.09 | mickeyl | fixing the display backlight to be a backlight |
| 21:48.15 | mickeyl | fixing the msmfb to feature BLANK UNBLANK ioctl |
| 21:48.23 | mickeyl | injecting alsa |
| 21:48.27 | mickeyl | and stuff like that |
| 21:48.29 | ToAsTcfh | dude they didnt have neer as much working as u guys do |
| 21:48.47 | dcordes | mickeyl, didn't see that blank thing |
| 21:48.55 | tmzt_ | alsa works? |
| 21:48.59 | mickeyl | almost |
| 21:49.07 | tmzt_ | pcm or routing as well? |
| 21:49.20 | mickeyl | pretty much both |
| 21:49.22 | dcordes | oh wow http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Dream#Standard_GNU.2FLinux wiki seems uptodate |
| 21:49.25 | ToAsTcfh | all they had was like wlan.ko recompile and filesystem support stuff |
| 21:49.28 | mickeyl | muting is a bit bogus, but works |
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| 21:50.13 | mickeyl | so we need help with suspend/resume and wifi, bt, gps |
| 21:50.20 | mickeyl | but other than that, things are pretty much working |
| 21:51.53 | dcordes | mickeyl, you get gps data from smd device? |
| 21:52.24 | ToAsTcfh | mickeyl: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631389 |
| 21:52.45 | mickeyl | dcordes: never tried |
| 21:52.51 | mickeyl | gps we avoided yet |
| 21:52.59 | mickeyl | as we think wifi and bt is more important |
| 21:53.28 | dcordes | mickeyl, I'm just wondering because wiki says it needs to be decoded |
| 21:53.54 | mickeyl | gnutoo wrote that |
| 21:53.58 | dcordes | I only know gps from the kaiser with wince amss. there we had serial device with nmea |
| 21:54.17 | mickeyl | luxury :) |
| 21:54.30 | mickeyl | no idea where gps is supposed to come out on dream |
| 21:54.40 | ToAsTcfh | mickeyl: look at that nexus thread. they got wifi working for them |
| 21:55.20 | mickeyl | ToAsTcfh: wl1251? |
| 21:55.40 | ToAsTcfh | mickeyl: im not sure what the nexus driver is |
| 21:55.46 | mickeyl | apparantly not |
| 21:55.53 | mickeyl | bcm4329 |
| 21:56.09 | ToAsTcfh | oh nm then sorry |
| 21:56.15 | mickeyl | i'm sure someone of the kernel guys could fix it in a minute |
| 21:56.18 | ToAsTcfh | same diver as me though |
| 21:56.19 | mickeyl | but our guys have no idea |
| 21:56.35 | mickeyl | it's just a kernel oops when the stack gets shut down |
| 21:56.39 | mickeyl | can't be a big issue |
| 21:56.44 | mickeyl | but still.... blocker now |
| 21:56.57 | ToAsTcfh | u may have to rebuild the wlan.ko |
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| 21:57.20 | dcordes | Todo: ... -Get the CodeAurora MSM/QSD X driver working. .... hehe lamers |
| 21:58.21 | AstainHellbring | nows ts on hd2 coming? |
| 21:58.35 | dcordes | ToAsTcfh, I will point him to the wiki |
| 22:00.17 | ToAsTcfh | lol ok |
| 22:00.55 | tmzt_ | dcordes: on nexus? |
| 22:01.48 | dcordes | tmzt_, yes that's from the debian on nexusone thread ToAsTcfh linked to |
| 22:04.16 | mickeyl | i thought the dream was more wide spread |
| 22:04.24 | mickeyl | but apparantly except me only two guys working on it |
| 22:04.27 | mickeyl | strange... |
| 22:04.45 | mickeyl | ah well, probably all are satisfied with android |
| 22:07.50 | dcordes | mickeyl, no, wrong. it's obsolete :D same old problem. |
| 22:08.57 | dcordes | and yes everybody's satisfied with android as long as they don't get confronted with the availability of alternatives |
| 22:09.24 | mickeyl | well |
| 22:09.28 | mickeyl | i no longer buy the obsoletion argument |
| 22:09.36 | mickeyl | there was no movement either when it was brand new |
| 22:09.46 | mickeyl | so there's no movement to be expected for newer devices |
| 22:10.26 | mickeyl | and the availability of alternatives is a chicken and egg problem :) |
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| 22:11.02 | mickeyl | well, at least pavel machek doesn't give up |
| 22:11.14 | mickeyl | but he has completely different goals |
| 22:11.21 | mickeyl | so that brings us not really forward |
| 22:13.35 | ToAsTcfh | mickeyl: i tried a few times to help out the dream guys with getting the eclair drivers working like opengl and such. but really they werent to interested. they only wanted a quick fix and not to have to fool with it. so they gave up :( |
| 22:13.47 | dcordes | mickeyl, to leave the metaphor thing... :D you gnutoo and leviathan must provide the availability and I see many thousands running around with SHR dreams tomorrow |
| 22:14.09 | mickeyl | heh |
| 22:14.27 | ToAsTcfh | if u build it they will comme |
| 22:14.31 | mickeyl | ToAsTcfh: what are eclair drivers? |
| 22:14.46 | dcordes | yep |
| 22:15.01 | mickeyl | well, i don't need much |
| 22:15.04 | mickeyl | but a working kernel |
| 22:15.05 | ToAsTcfh | opengl driver for 2.x |
| 22:15.21 | mickeyl | ah. while that's cool, it certainly is of very low priority |
| 22:15.28 | mickeyl | my interest is day-to-day phone |
| 22:15.34 | mickeyl | and i can't deliver that when the wifi crashes |
| 22:15.43 | mickeyl | :) |
| 22:15.45 | ToAsTcfh | so does the phone actually work or no |
| 22:15.54 | mickeyl | "the phone" |
| 22:15.59 | ToAsTcfh | make a call |
| 22:16.02 | mickeyl | telephony and data connectivity works |
| 22:16.12 | ToAsTcfh | holly shit hell yeah |
| 22:16.21 | dcordes | haha |
| 22:16.23 | mickeyl | but no suspend/resume... |
| 22:16.27 | ToAsTcfh | :/ |
| 22:16.31 | mickeyl | so 7h battery life |
| 22:16.35 | mickeyl | which doesn't quite cut it |
| 22:16.39 | tmzt_ | does suspend/resume work without wifi? |
| 22:16.42 | mickeyl | no |
| 22:16.47 | ToAsTcfh | yeah thats getting close though |
| 22:16.48 | mickeyl | it immediately resumes |
| 22:16.51 | mickeyl | no matter what we're doing |
| 22:17.05 | tmzt_ | of course dream we have multiple full working kernels |
| 22:17.18 | tmzt_ | so it has to be something that can be bisected or otherwise determined |
| 22:17.30 | tmzt_ | does panic make it to ramconsole? |
| 22:17.42 | mickeyl | what's ramconsole? |
| 22:17.54 | mickeyl | userland guy, you should rather talk with lev and gnutoo |
| 22:17.57 | tmzt_ | same as you have on fr, it writes the dmesg to ram |
| 22:18.06 | mickeyl | ah, the panic for wifi crash? |
| 22:18.09 | mickeyl | that i have in the log |
| 22:18.10 | ToAsTcfh | cat /proc/last_kmsg |
| 22:18.18 | mickeyl | which i pasted |
| 22:18.23 | tmzt_ | except google also has a driver for writing the full panic and ram dump |
| 22:18.44 | tmzt_ | where? |
| 22:18.52 | dcordes | tmzt_, http://pastie.org/913206 dream wifi shutdown crash |
| 22:18.58 | mickeyl | <mickeyl> let me dig out a log |
| 22:18.59 | tmzt_ | right, but you said that suspend/resume doesn't work without wifi either |
| 22:19.01 | mickeyl | <mickeyl> http://pastie.org/913206 |
| 22:19.07 | mickeyl | <mickeyl> ifconfig wlan0 down @ Apr 10 19:43:09 |
| 22:19.17 | mickeyl | ah suspend/resume now |
| 22:19.28 | mickeyl | suspend/resume does not panic |
| 22:19.36 | mickeyl | <mickeyl> it immediately resumes |
| 22:19.36 | mickeyl | <mickeyl> no matter what we're doing |
| 22:20.02 | mickeyl | first we thought the refresh thread was guilty, but even without it resumes immediately |
| 22:20.09 | mickeyl | then we killed all wakelocks to be sure |
| 22:20.11 | mickeyl | same situation |
| 22:20.33 | dcordes | mickeyl, did you try it with bare android kernel? |
| 22:20.40 | mickeyl | no, never, |
| 22:20.45 | tmzt_ | yeah, that's what I mean |
| 22:20.50 | mickeyl | i started with linux-leviathan 2.6.32 |
| 22:20.55 | dcordes | not good |
| 22:20.58 | tmzt_ | ah, 2.6.32 |
| 22:21.05 | tmzt_ | very far from what google uses |
| 22:21.07 | mickeyl | well, these guys seem to be reluctant to move back to an older version |
| 22:21.09 | mickeyl | and I'm as well |
| 22:21.12 | tmzt_ | right |
| 22:21.13 | mickeyl | since i want devtmpfs |
| 22:21.35 | tmzt_ | can you try with the upstream 2.6.32 from google? |
| 22:21.44 | tmzt_ | which lev is based on |
| 22:21.57 | mickeyl | how do i get that? |
| 22:22.08 | mickeyl | is that just the master branch? |
| 22:22.15 | dcordes | mickeyl, wiki has most of all the kernels |
| 22:23.02 | tmzt_ | http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/experimental.git;a=log;h=refs/heads/android-msm-2.6.33-rc8-test1 |
| 22:23.04 | dcordes | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Kernel#Kernel_for_QCT_MSM7xxxA_based_devices |
| 22:23.06 | ToAsTcfh | mickeyl: do u guys have a thread somewhere? |
| 22:23.07 | tmzt_ | hmm |
| 22:23.08 | tmzt_ | hold on |
| 22:23.30 | tmzt_ | 2.6.32 seems to no longer be in experimental.git |
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| 22:23.41 | dcordes | ToAsTcfh, afaik they releasd nothing personally on xda |
| 22:23.57 | mickeyl | ToAsTcfh: i'm afraid we are not much into forums |
| 22:24.16 | mickeyl | unfortunately almost no one uses mobile-linux mailing list from ltg |
| 22:24.43 | mickeyl | old fashioned email guy |
| 22:25.08 | tmzt_ | if there were more kernel developers they probably would |
| 22:25.37 | mickeyl | right, there is probably a general lack of kernel developers |
| 22:25.54 | dcordes | tmzt_, do you use it? |
| 22:26.06 | tmzt_ | haven't had anything to say |
| 22:26.24 | tmzt_ | is it worth just getting a dream? |
| 22:26.39 | tmzt_ | was hoping they'd get cheaper now |
| 22:26.49 | dcordes | mickeyl, did you see the link? I propose to use the android-msm-2.6.32 branch as it is linked in wiki |
| 22:27.28 | mickeyl | dcordes: sounds good, lets recommend that to the gnu and lev |
| 22:27.37 | mickeyl | probably just a handfull of fixes to port |
| 22:27.42 | mickeyl | _if_ it works at all |
| 22:27.43 | tmzt_ | what android-msm-2.6.32 branch? |
| 22:27.49 | mickeyl | i'm afraid it's hardly tested on dream |
| 22:27.57 | mickeyl | as google doesn't care about old devices |
| 22:28.00 | dcordes | mickeyl, I'm talking about debugging your suspend problem |
| 22:28.07 | mickeyl | ah, right |
| 22:28.13 | mickeyl | good, lets recommend that |
| 22:28.22 | dcordes | if you think it's better just checkout older one too |
| 22:28.28 | ToAsTcfh | mickeyl: yeah i know what u mean. i posted a thread with a link to my git hub and the thread just filled up with requests for the binary lol |
| 22:28.37 | tmzt_ | http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/experimental.git;a=commitdiff;h=d22e4a7f173060fa2ffb97adf2df4ba5906b4c0c |
| 22:28.45 | tmzt_ | don't we have a fix like that for cdma devices? |
| 22:28.49 | tmzt_ | funny google needs the same thing |
| 22:29.05 | ToAsTcfh | tmzt_:? |
| 22:29.32 | tmzt_ | CDMA revisions have non-linear volume control. |
| 22:29.35 | tmzt_ | this is qsd |
| 22:29.46 | ToAsTcfh | ah i see |
| 22:29.48 | Captnoord | most volume controls are non-linear |
| 22:29.53 | Captnoord | lets say |
| 22:29.54 | Captnoord | ALL |
| 22:30.01 | Captnoord | something todo with human ear stuff |
| 22:30.02 | Captnoord | :P |
| 22:30.04 | tmzt_ | ToAsTcfh: checking that first one, that's msm though |
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| 22:31.02 | ToAsTcfh | heh |
| 22:31.18 | ToAsTcfh | dude i wish google would add the hero in |
| 22:31.37 | ToAsTcfh | make life a housand times easier for me |
| 22:32.51 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 22:33.48 | ToAsTcfh | i could add my work to htc-linux.org. i see when clicking on the hero it says it doesnt exsist yet |
| 22:34.08 | ToAsTcfh | but id be all alone there |
| 22:34.46 | Captnoord | you never know |
| 22:35.44 | ToAsTcfh | yeah i do... no one who owns a hero really even cares to do anything but flash a new rom |
| 22:35.56 | ToAsTcfh | one da maybe |
| 22:36.14 | Captnoord | ToAsTcfh: hmmm someone has to be the first |
| 22:36.33 | ToAsTcfh | Captnoord: tru |
| 22:36.54 | ToAsTcfh | Captnoord: u fix camera yet man?! whats taking so long |
| 22:37.03 | Captnoord | lol |
| 22:37.19 | Captnoord | nah i'm bussy studying for my exam |
| 22:37.28 | Captnoord | and working on creating a custom diag image |
| 22:37.31 | ToAsTcfh | so u think .32 would be better to port from? |
| 22:37.43 | Captnoord | yup |
| 22:37.47 | ToAsTcfh | why |
| 22:37.49 | ToAsTcfh | :P |
| 22:37.51 | Captnoord | more that we can start from scratch |
| 22:37.55 | Captnoord | cleaner |
| 22:38.01 | dcordes | Captnoord, yes the human ear doesn't work so linear. I have interesting pdf on that if you like. but it's german |
| 22:38.14 | Captnoord | lol |
| 22:38.27 | Captnoord | I am a electronic guy |
| 22:38.30 | Captnoord | I know all about it |
| 22:38.50 | Captnoord | not everything |
| 22:38.53 | Captnoord | but anough |
| 22:39.05 | ToAsTcfh | Captnoord: uhg... i guess its time to download yet another kernel source |
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| 22:40.28 | ToAsTcfh | im just thinking alot more has changed in .32 from .27 then changed in .29 form .27 |
| 22:40.39 | ToAsTcfh | but again idk |
| 22:42.41 | mickeyl | i for one would welcome a clean start. although we have slightly different goals, there are so few developers that it would make much sense to cooperate |
| 22:42.46 | mickeyl | s/slightly// |
| 22:42.47 | mickeyl | ;) |
| 22:48.30 | ToAsTcfh | mickly: so there is no documentation anywhere of the progress u guys have made and or fixes? i ask because id like to try |
| 22:50.17 | tmzt_ | mickeyl: the only way that is likely is if android and X can coexist with the same kernel |
| 22:50.26 | tmzt_ | and something rhodubuntu is doing that I think |
| 22:51.12 | tmzt_ | since the reinventing/backporting kernel apis to match userspace endemic to android development for msm devices isn't going to change there's going to have to be a workaround |
| 22:51.35 | tmzt_ | qdsp and alsa can work together for instance, and userspace can use the api it prefers |
| 22:51.54 | tmzt_ | we just need to use tssc in X and change the refresh thread to a sysfs handle |
| 22:52.06 | tmzt_ | android uses KD_GRAPHICS doesn't it? |
| 22:52.09 | mickeyl | ToAsTcfh: i'm about to release a demo image for the dream with a blog entry |
| 22:52.22 | ToAsTcfh | link me |
| 22:52.26 | ToAsTcfh | when ever |
| 22:52.28 | mickeyl | k |
| 22:53.01 | ToAsTcfh | id like some insite to build my kernel right though |
| 22:53.02 | tmzt_ | can both wifi drivers be implemented as kernel modules? |
| 22:53.02 | mickeyl | tmzt_: well, if we can litter the kernel with #ifdefs we should be able to do some things |
| 22:53.13 | tmzt_ | nah, we need the same zImage to work |
| 22:53.18 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 22:53.20 | tmzt_ | or these testing issues are going to keep coming back |
| 22:53.29 | dcordes | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=GNU/Linux |
| 22:53.31 | mickeyl | that's going to be very tough |
| 22:53.37 | mickeyl | concurrency problems |
| 22:53.38 | mickeyl | all over |
| 22:53.39 | tmzt_ | why? |
| 22:53.41 | mickeyl | one example |
| 22:53.42 | mickeyl | backlight |
| 22:53.52 | mickeyl | we don't want it to be LED |
| 22:53.56 | ToAsTcfh | decords: thanx |
| 22:54.00 | mickeyl | that's why we did it as backlight class device |
| 22:54.22 | tmzt_ | how is that a concurrency problem? |
| 22:54.40 | tmzt_ | isn't backlight class already wrapping a led? |
| 22:54.50 | mickeyl | i'm not confident that exporting kernel facilities over two concurrent interfaces will work for all cases |
| 22:55.11 | mickeyl | backlight being a very simple example, but showing the problem IMO. |
| 22:55.18 | mickeyl | then again, i don't care as long as we can have the backlight :) |
| 22:55.20 | tmzt_ | I'd favor a clean kernel if it was possible |
| 22:55.26 | tmzt_ | but upstream is android, not linux |
| 22:55.40 | tmzt_ | so it's going to be porting every fix from one to the other |
| 22:55.46 | ToAsTcfh | uhg no cdma support yet :P |
| 22:55.49 | mickeyl | well |
| 22:55.54 | mickeyl | we don't want to follow upstream forever |
| 22:55.58 | tmzt_ | or just getting these issues solved |
| 22:56.04 | mickeyl | i guess we can stop when all peripherals work |
| 22:56.08 | tmzt_ | with the help of enough devs |
| 22:56.11 | tmzt_ | like camera? |
| 22:56.20 | tmzt_ | that's going to be next to impossible unless there's working v4l2 |
| 22:56.30 | ToAsTcfh | yes |
| 22:56.34 | ToAsTcfh | we need it |
| 22:56.43 | ToAsTcfh | for everything |
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| 23:06.42 | ToAsTcfh | im out... gotta watch a cheesy movie with the wife. |
| 23:07.17 | mickeyl | tmzt_: well, at the end of the day, you kernel guys have to come to terms. i'm in no position to do much here, except express my wishes. I need to take everything i get from the kernel devs |
| 23:08.53 | Captnoord | who's good at chineese? |
| 23:08.54 | Captnoord | http://www.armce.com |
| 23:11.14 | ToAsTcfh | google translate :P |
| 23:11.35 | makkonen | no no, he said GOOD at chinese |
| 23:12.21 | Captnoord | google translate fucksup the register stuff |
| 23:12.21 | Captnoord | :S |
| 23:13.05 | ToAsTcfh | oh |
| 23:13.11 | ToAsTcfh | lol |
| 23:13.37 | ToAsTcfh | i was reading through it i didnt know u needed to sign up |
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