IRC log for #htc-linux on 20100330

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00:05.51domi007hello everyone!
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00:15.00domi007still fighting with kaiser
00:15.04domi007and touchscreen
00:15.12AstainHellbringbeats kaiser upside kaiser's head
00:15.30domi007AstaineHellbring: hey put it down, my TP2 is not here yet!:D
00:16.02domi007i didn't mean literally youuu :D
00:16.54domi007so that's all what i got: TS driver is there, it works because /dev/input/event0, event1, event2, and event3 are there
00:17.19domi007ubuntu uses kdrive as X server
00:17.44domi007so all i know is that kdrive is configured during compiling not running
00:17.54domi007so it looks like i have to compile it myself
00:18.37domi007still don't know how would i change it in ubuntu...i guess i have to chroot into my rootfs and then remove the kdrive package, and then copy the files...or build a packet
00:18.44domi007anyone any comments? :D
00:25.55domi007guys i just found a treasure, look at this: http://www.handhelds.org/minihowto/building-x.html
00:34.28domi007nope it is garbage, it states that xfbdev is free from every device specific drivers whatsoever so it should work on every device
00:37.11domi007all right, now i will check all the input devices with cat
00:37.20domi007let's see if it works at all :)
00:39.17domi007and it works, after running cat /dev/input/event0 and touching the screen i got some garbage printed out
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00:42.46domi007now the question is where does xfbdev expects to find the touchscreen?
00:44.46domi007hm, perhaps /dev/ts...sounds possible to me
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01:05.44*** topic/#htc-linux is Welcome to the http://htc-linux.org project! Please read the Wiki: http://htc-linux.org/wiki || Logs: http://irclog.netripper.com/?chan=htc-linux || This is no android support channel.
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01:16.29randomblamethank tux, I finally got vbox guest additions to work with uboobtu 10.4
01:16.47randomblame*10.04
01:19.30randomblamelife without guest additions isn't worth living
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01:27.50domi007hi randomblame, good to see you again
01:27.51domi007:)
01:30.31domi007good God in heavan, the Touchscreeen started to work!
01:30.49domi007it is way off, but it works
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01:32.16domi007randomblame, you are awesome!
01:34.01domi007now only one thing is not clear
01:34.05domi007how can i change the resolution
01:34.15domi007because half of the windows are out from the screen
01:37.21domi007how can i set an environmental variable during boot? i added a proper export command to the bootmisc.sh
01:37.30domi007but it doesn't change
01:47.36domi007guys
01:47.42domi007i need only one thing now
01:47.48domi007so please if you can help me
01:47.57domi007how the heck can i change the resolution
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02:00.09Jafterdarkanyone help me add a file to rootfs.img how to ??
02:01.23Jafterdarkjust what to and my Launcher.apk file in to it
02:03.49Jafterdarkor whats the cmd for that
02:04.21Hoochstergood evening people
02:04.42Jafterdarkhi
02:17.47domi007Jafterdark
02:17.57domi007where is your rootfs?
02:18.00domi007on your sd card?
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02:20.52Jafterdarkon my pc
02:22.07Jafterdarki know i cant add it if it runing
02:22.49Jafterdarki try push system/app/
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02:23.03Jef91Anyone here run Android on the HTC Kaiser know how to answer an incoming phone call on it?
02:23.54Jafterdarkso is ther a why to add it in on my pc
02:24.27Jafterdarki have window7 and ubuntu
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02:27.10Jafterdark1so i have to add it in some how
02:29.12domi007Jafterdark ao wait you are using an emulator?
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02:29.42domi007Jef91: you should be able to use the buttons, but also there should be a button on the screen which you can press
02:30.09Jef91domi007 negative on both
02:30.24Jef91The green button does not pick up however the red button rejects the call
02:30.34Jef91and there is nothing on screen to pick up...
02:30.52domi007Jef91 this is not an Android supoort channel, but I will answer now...so which build are u using?
02:31.35Jef91Warmdonut, eclair bogged the device too (also I was pointed here from #android, thanks for any help)
02:31.44Jafterdark1is that how i have to do it a emulator
02:31.44Jef91bogged the device too much*
02:35.30domi007Jafterdark1: i don't know, what you can certainly do is shut down the emulator and try to add files to the img itself using WinImage (i am not sure if the program supports ext2 volumes)
02:36.06domi007Jef91: in that case i have no idea, looks like  a bug to me...
02:36.08Jafterdark1ok thanks
02:36.40Jafterdark1here a like of what im trying to do
02:36.50Jafterdark1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErpwzkImXqk
02:45.37Jafterdark1how can i do that
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02:58.12domi007_okay
02:58.16domi007_I don't know
02:58.26domi007_what is your error message (if u get any)
03:01.15Jafterdark1so im runing this on me htc pro 2
03:01.37Jafterdark1ailed to copy 'Launcher.apk' to '/system/app/Launcher.apk': Read-only file syst
03:01.50Jafterdark1Failed to copy 'Launcher.apk' to '/system/app/Launcher.apk': Read-only file syst
03:02.47Jafterdark1brb wife wants taco bell
03:17.49Jafterdark1ok back
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05:21.32eval-questions
05:22.07eval-interesting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6021486&postcount=937    ... plausible?
05:22.49eval-what's up with this: http://balsat.hopto.org/  ... all our logs go to RAM, right?  are a few printk()'s slowing us down or is there something i'm missing
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05:42.26tiefi dont think so eval-
05:44.49eval-tief:  re the new ROM from HTC fixing our issues?  or that some 'debugless' zImage increases performance
05:45.05eval-tief:  i guess i could just test both of those for myself... but lazy :p
05:46.31tiefi meant i dont think you're missing anything
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07:42.50gauner1986hi all
07:50.15Tigerzenhi you
07:51.18Tigerzengood sleep ?
07:54.24Tigerzenall the time before i suspect usb code im sure there's problem sync
07:55.16Tigerzenusb pm sleep suspend...
07:59.52gauner1986hm
07:59.54gauner1986not really
08:00.02gauner1986stayed too long awake that day before
08:00.07gauner1986like on every sunday
08:00.08gauner1986:)
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08:06.38cr2_hehe. it works :)
08:07.07Tigerzenwho ? what ?
08:07.20cr2_irc from here
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08:12.46M900:) hi
08:13.09M900im in machine init =) clocks are ok...
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08:34.03Tigerzengauner1986, i touch init.rc on p2 but now he says failed to ron init.rc then i reback and same did you thinks there's user problem ?
08:35.49Tigerzenchmod a+x same
08:40.47Tigerzenchmod 644  same he dont like date change !!!
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08:43.32Tigerzenhow touch file and date no change ?
08:43.42Tigerzenwithout date change
08:45.30Tigerzennow im sure can boot but fucking init.rc have's some service i need uncomment, problem if i touch it then he dont wont executed !!
08:46.37Tigerzensos
08:53.46Tigerzendate change same pfff
08:54.57Tigerzenhow its possible ?
08:56.38Tigerzeneinstein ?
08:59.23gauner1986try setting it up again from scratch
08:59.24gauner1986:P
08:59.48Tigerzenif i unzip the file its ok
09:00.05Tigerzenuid ?
09:01.11gauner1986hm
09:01.13gauner1986dunno
09:01.29Tigerzennot normal way
09:01.30gauner1986i'm at the university atm.. so cant experiment
09:01.47Tigerzenits happen just on leo
09:01.51Tigerzenok
09:15.27Tigerzenmodified and replaced on tar.gz same its incredible  !!!
09:16.42Tigerzencr2_, got an idea ?
09:17.12Tigerzenprofessor cr2
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09:22.15Tigerzenim so stupid
09:22.28Tigerzenfound
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10:00.27balsateval, I have run a benchmark from softweg this is the result with glemsom build http://pastebin.com/dYgrr0SY
10:00.40balsatThis is mine Balsat http://pastebin.com/9HECKK7K
10:01.17balsatNot that big a diff, except form sdcard read write
10:09.01Captnoordstrange
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10:39.47babijoeelong time no see anyone :p
10:39.59IceBoneHey, babijoee!
10:40.06babijoeehey icebone
10:40.22babijoeewhats happening
10:40.47IceBoneTrying to find out what exactly it was that was bogging down my diamond.
10:40.52IceBoneI think it was the weather widget.
10:40.59babijoeebogging?
10:41.04IceBoneslowing down
10:41.08babijoeegenie widget?
10:41.17IceBoneLike the messaging app taking 20-40 seconds to open, also the contacts.
10:41.21babijoeeooo
10:41.24babijoeethats no good
10:41.50IceBoneYeah, now I'm running a very light build, only 5 apps installed, no home app, 1 calendar widget and it's instant.
10:42.07babijoeereally?
10:42.07babijoeelol
10:42.24babijoeei find it still decent
10:42.37IceBoneA few threads are approaching 200 messages, too.
10:43.31babijoee?
10:43.39babijoeesorry lol i'm not following you :p
10:43.41IceBoneI sms too much.
10:43.47babijoeeooo
10:43.48babijoeei see
10:43.49babijoeelol
10:43.49IceBonethe sms threads in the messaging app
10:44.20babijoeei'm always updating so i lose my sms
10:44.22babijoee:(
10:44.26IceBonesms backup & restore
10:44.31babijoeenah
10:44.32IceBonedaily backups at 5 am.
10:44.38IceBonestandard xml format
10:44.43babijoeenot really needed
10:44.43babijoeelol
10:44.49IceBoneThen don't complain. :P
10:45.04babijoeebut sometimes i cant prove i get some sms's
10:45.09babijoeelol
10:45.44babijoeeany interesting apps you've seen on market
10:45.57IceBoneaCar
10:46.02babijoeei'm planning on just updating to latest files and adding a few new things
10:46.02IceBonemobisle notes
10:46.37IceBoneAlso that sms backup & restore.
10:46.40IceBoneI don't use any others.
10:46.49IceBoneI'll start playing with the apps again when I get a Desire.
10:46.54babijoeeooo
10:48.26IceBoneAnd will probably remove Sense.
10:48.32babijoeelol
10:48.35babijoeeget a n1 then
10:48.42IceBoneIt's 680 euro here.
10:48.45IceBoneWhich is 800 bucks.
10:48.46babijoeei want sense
10:49.01babijoeehow much is desire coming out for then?
10:49.06IceBone479 euro
10:49.10babijoeewoah
10:49.14babijoeebuy it on ebay?
10:49.21IceBoneNot there yet.
10:49.25babijoeeooo
10:50.14babijoeei've tried the sense ui of desire
10:50.16babijoeeits really good
10:50.23IceBoneI don't like the design that much.
10:50.24babijoeebut too bad its not complete
10:50.26babijoeeah k
10:50.41babijoeei think its better than the stock launcher though
10:50.41IceBoneI like the social network integration, but the design of 2.1 is very slick.
10:50.48IceBoneMaybe if I find a way to replace the icons.
10:50.51babijoeeah k fair enough
10:51.02babijoeethere are plenty of apps for that :)
10:51.17IceBoneTried one, wouldn't work on the diamond.
10:51.27IceBoneKept blinking, couldn't do anything.
10:51.38babijoeeah k
10:51.49babijoeehave you had a chance to try the espresso build?
10:52.07IceBoneIs that with sense lite?
10:52.19babijoeethink so
10:52.24babijoeeits in the raphael thread
10:52.40babijoeeespresso build 2.1 with and without rosie
10:52.40IceBoneNah, that's even uglier. :D
10:52.45babijoeelol
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10:52.50IceBoneI'm quite ok with this for the moment.
10:52.55babijoeekool
10:53.05babijoeeso you're using normal launcher
10:53.10babijoeewhat do you think of hone__
10:53.12babijoeehome++
10:53.21IceBoneDidn't like it.
10:53.26IceBoneI was using Launcher+ before.
10:53.30babijoeeah k
10:54.01IceBoneWhich gave me more screens and a thumbnail view of the home screens (like the new sense leap, but no pinch) and I think that's also what was slowing it down.
10:54.52babijoeelol
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13:03.21k_linuxhi
13:03.36k_linuxbabijoee: here ?
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14:43.33kholkre all :)
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15:22.35gauner1986hi
15:33.59AstainHellbringhi
15:39.02kholkhi :>)
15:39.06gauner1986so now..
15:39.10gauner1986tell me some good news
15:39.11gauner1986:)
15:39.28gauner1986like: hey.. freezing problems are gone
15:39.30kholkthere is a new kernel
15:39.37kholkouh, so no news :P
15:39.42gauner1986or: hey.. usbnet shell works
15:39.58kholkI'm trying with ADB
15:40.00gauner1986you dont mean 2.6.32? :)
15:40.12kholkI mean 2.6.32
15:40.21gauner1986so i already have that
15:40.25gauner1986usb doesnt work there
15:40.26gauner1986:(
15:40.29kholktoday's update
15:40.30kholklol
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15:41.49Tigerzenfreezing problem are gone and shell works !!!
15:41.55kholkhahah :)
15:42.01gauner1986hahaha
15:42.24Tigerzenoops sorry im mistake irc canal were's wm7 ?
15:43.00kholklol
15:43.50Tigerzenbut splashscreen works right for the moment if you compile 2days before
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15:44.12gauner1986uuuh
15:44.15kholkmaybe I've found a trick
15:44.16gauner1986splashscreen!
15:44.22kholkfor enabling and making ADB to work
15:44.30kholkthe same mass storage shit
15:44.31Tigerzenyessssssssss you see android progress animation and hangs
15:44.46Tigerzenadb works right here but same after hangs
15:44.46kholkTigerzen: why are you testing fundroid
15:44.59kholkif we don't have anything for making it to work?
15:45.01kholkhuh?
15:45.02kholkadb works?
15:45.08Tigerzeni test to many things i dont know what i test
15:45.21kholkdo you remember how did you make it to work=
15:45.22kholk?
15:45.32Tigerzenoh i know i use wing linux and extract it on p2
15:45.38Tigerzenwith image 2days before
15:45.44kholkmmh
15:45.51kholkokay, so nothing important
15:47.19Tigerzenthey guys plays with earth to reproduct bing bag
15:47.33Tigerzenbig bang
15:49.10Tigerzenbecause they dont wont accept God exist...they cant accept God existe because there's 6 milliard invesstissement money...
15:49.29kholkhahahahahahahahahahahahahah
15:49.35kholkif I disable mass storage function
15:49.37kholkin the kernel
15:49.40kholkit won't boot
15:49.42kholkLOL!
15:49.46gauner1986i always do that
15:49.54Tigerzenyes
15:50.03kholkthese things are making me laugh and cry
15:50.05kholkat the same time
15:50.06kholkLOL
15:50.09kholkç_ç
15:50.12kholkLOL! ç_ç
15:50.13Tigerzenits seems usb...
15:50.13kholkXD
15:50.30Tigerzenusb sync problem hangs randomly
15:50.52Tigerzeni dont understand about that
15:51.05kholkyeah
15:51.57Tigerzenthere's ingenior payed 5000€ per month to make sd attached hardware with usb interface
15:54.26Tigerzenlinks for fundroid ?
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16:02.22Tigerzenhttp://rapidshare.com/files/369988406/Image.html
16:04.19Tigerzenkholk,
16:05.45dcordesTigerzen, if you give me 6 billion euros I will prove that your god does not exist in no time.
16:06.49Tigerzenyes money make's blind
16:07.17gauner1986Tigerzen: you should rather invest that into a working leo kernel
16:07.19gauner1986:P
16:07.35Tigerzengauner1986, know fundroid links ?
16:07.54Tigerzenor its one joke again kholk
16:08.02gauner1986never heard that
16:12.30dcordesgauner1986, I wanted to propose buying HTC. but that figure is nearly their 2009 revenue...
16:13.12gauner1986dcordes: hmmm
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16:15.49gauner1986hey Markinus :)
16:16.40MarkinusHi!
16:16.49gauner1986throw something in the bottle, we're buying htc
16:17.32Markinusha! ;D
16:17.54Markinusgauner1986: how much do you have yet? ;)
16:18.19gauner1986dcordes got 6 billion from Tigerzen, which he threw in
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16:23.35dcordesgauner1986, no sorry. I only put 5999999960. and now I can finally go to the grocery story :D so see you later guys
16:23.46gauner1986dcordes: lol
16:23.49dcordes*store
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16:26.56Tigerzendcordes, dont forget close the store
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16:42.34vinz0rbalsat, are you there?
16:43.49balsatvinz0r, Yep
16:44.33vinz0rbalsat, hey i installed your ext2 version of xdandroid yesterday, and it gave me an extraordinary speed boost, it's fantastic
16:44.49balsatThats great
16:44.51vinz0rbut now, I was wondering if it would be possible to port 2.1 to ext2 also
16:45.08vinz0rand for that, I wanted to know what you had to modify to get it working on ext2
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16:46.47balsatSome changed to the /init and some other minor change
16:47.59vinz0rbalsat, I also still have the android market issue, hanging at 'starting download'. (i left a message on your site, earlier today)
16:48.26balsathave you tryed to chmod 777 /cache
16:48.58vinz0ri'd like to see my logs, to see what's going on in the market, but adb won't connect to my phone (and 'debugging interface' is activated in the phone, but doesn't show a usb connection... )
16:49.02vinz0ryup, tried that
16:49.16vinz0rI tried your 26 march build, and 27 march build
16:49.27balsattry to telnet
16:49.32balsatsudo ifconfig usb0 192.168.20.2
16:49.38balsattelnet 192.168.20.1
16:49.55vinz0rwill try that
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16:50.42vinz0rbalsat, on my linux host you mean? gives me: usb0: unknown interface: No such device
16:50.53vinz0ralso, lsusb doesn't show my phone
16:51.00vinz0rdo i need to modprobe usbnet or something first?
16:51.18balsatyes
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16:52.10balsatand maybe rndis_wlan rndis_host cdc_ether cant remember
16:53.45vinz0rbalsat, the roosfs.img, is it unpacked into the ext2 system also? and how can I unpack it?
16:54.18balsatjust mount it mount -o loop rootfs.img /mount/point
16:54.24vinz0rok great
16:54.44balsatand yes the rootfs is included in my build
16:56.14Tigerzenohhhhhhhhhhhhhh
17:00.05TigerzenMarkinus, omap4 same hardware yet ?
17:03.34MarkinusTigerzen: no,
17:03.51MarkinusTigerzen: cortex A9 and Dual Core
17:03.58Tigerzenok
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17:06.04MarkinusTigerzen: The 8X72 from quallcom is nice too, dual core till 1,5 GHz
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17:06.36Tigerzenthen we can compile on phone
17:07.15MarkinusTigerzen: for this is our platform good enugh . .500 MB RAM and 1 GHz. . .  ( if I think so what I had in the past .  .)
17:07.54MarkinusTigerzen: My first Linux PC was a i486 with 2 MB ram! ;)
17:08.19Markinus25 Mhz, yeah!
17:08.27Tigerzensame i played king quest
17:08.40Tigerzenega
17:08.56Markinushehe
17:09.14Tigerzenfirst pc i sell it remeber 300€
17:09.22Markinuskernel building some hours :)
17:09.41Tigerzenremember need memory on video card
17:09.55Tigerzensram ?
17:10.50vinz0rbalsat, what does /sys/devices/platform/msm_hsusb/usb_function_switch do?
17:10.54MarkinusI bought it for 2000 DM (1000 € ) .. heah ..
17:12.17Tigerzenits got a daimond ?
17:12.32MarkinusTigerzen: ha! :)
17:12.51Markinusthis was absolutly HIGH-TECH :)
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17:13.55MarkinusTigerzen: I miss the HDMI output on leo
17:14.07MarkinusTigerzen:: it's a nice feauture on the new one
17:14.25Tigerzenyeah but need hardware intervention
17:14.31balsatecho 2 > /sys/devices/platform/msm_hsusb/usb_function_switch enables the adb, i'm not sure it works anymore
17:15.01Tigerzensome toolchain doesnt wont compile adb
17:15.47Tigerzenarm-cortex_a8.. to compile it
17:16.01MarkinusTigerzen: no, you can compile it with older too . .
17:16.06MarkinusTigerzen: had no problems ..
17:16.13MarkinusTigerzen: onour old devices too
17:16.40phh<PROTECTED>
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17:18.33balsatphh, ok
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17:32.53phhlol, samsung I7500, sucks that much that it costs only 188euros new, without any subscribtion
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17:33.28phh*in france*
17:34.00Woutthinks has found a device better suited for android than rhod
17:34.15phhWout: uh ?
17:34.20Woutsamsung galaxy s pro, 4.1" cap. screen, super amoled, 1ghz cortex a8
17:34.22Wout*drool*
17:34.27Woutrelease this summer
17:34.32Woutand hw qwerty
17:34.39phhkeyboard ?
17:34.41phhah.
17:34.46phhpoor laggy brain
17:34.54ReefermattnessYeah Ive been looking at that samsung too Wout.
17:35.01Woutthe powervr gpu in that thing is crazy fast
17:35.02phhWout: and 196MB of RAM !
17:35.04phh:p
17:35.12ReefermattnessStill gonna wait for HTC tho  :P
17:35.58balsatWhat about the se x10 is it any good?
17:36.17Woutno
17:36.17phhbalsat: obsolete android version ?
17:36.24Woutwell, the hardware is ok
17:36.28Woutreally fast boot
17:36.30balsatAndroid 1.6
17:36.33Woutbut the software is pretty sucky
17:36.53balsatI just order one
17:36.56phhWout: well if you can run AOSP it's right.
17:37.05balsathope it will run 2.1
17:37.17Reefermattnessgood luck  :P
17:38.53Woutbtw phh, tried running android fulltime again today, but still experiencing this http://pjottrr.no-ip.org:81/redmine/issues/show/80
17:39.04Woutis there any way I can give you guys more feedback so it's fixable?
17:39.15Wouta smartphone isnt much good without 3g
17:39.55phhWout: you know someone reported exactly the opposite btw ? :p
17:40.02phh3G working better on linux than wimo
17:40.07Woutaargh :/
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17:40.27Woutwell, the reception is ok btw, the 3g shows up a lot
17:40.40Woutit's just that the connection dies
17:40.46phhok
17:40.55phhmaybe we don't restart ppp when we're supposed to
17:41.03Woutso maybe its a problem between android and the ril
17:41.06phhbut I don't think modem is supposed to crash ever.
17:42.10phhbut stupid amss as usual
17:42.13Woutare those logs of any use to you?
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17:42.37phhI'm reading.
17:42.44phhbut it's painful to read without proper timing :/
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17:44.53tomeffhello, any ideas how to run linux on htc hero ? i can boot any kernel but a only get bootloader screen with "hero"
17:45.27Woutphh: if it's any help, this files were logged in a period of about 10-15 secs
17:46.03phhWout: the thing is that it gives logs of before you actually started logcat
17:46.38phhso it's a total pain to see.
17:48.10Wout:/
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17:48.49phhall I can see is:
17:48.52phhE/RILC    ( 9141): RIL_onRequestComplete: invalid RIL_Token
17:48.55phhwhich wouldn't explain it
17:48.56phhI think.
17:49.34phhWout: take a look, maybe you'll find something
17:51.16Woutdoes this mean anything? umts css not supported?
17:51.17Wout
17:51.17WoutD/GSM     ( 1272): Poll ServiceState done:  oldSS=[0 home Ben Netherlands  Ben-NL 20416  UMTS CSS not supported -1 -1RoamInd: -1DefRoamInd: -1] newSS=[0 home Ben Netherlands  Ben-NL 20416  UMTS CSS not supported -1 -1RoamInd: -1DefRoamInd: -1] oldGprs=0 newGprs=0 oldType=UMTS newType=UMTS
17:51.32phhno clue either
17:53.44Captnoordre
17:53.58Woutphh: know of any other dev here that might know more about ril?
17:54.23Captnoordphh is god.....
17:54.27Captnoordbut I can check the asm
17:54.28Captnoord:P
17:54.31phhlol
17:54.45phhWout: some vogue people are more qualified for that
17:54.47Woutprays to phh then
17:55.04Captnoordimports battery level test cvs
17:55.09Captnoordto plot a graph
17:55.10Captnoord:P
17:55.14phhcsv* ?
17:55.25Woutgets all giddy when he reads stuff about battery :P
17:55.33Captnoordlol
17:55.35Captnoordwhat ever...
17:55.50phhWout: that makes me think I've several things to test.
17:56.10Woutlike?
17:56.11Captnoordcsv
17:56.13Captnoord:P
17:56.15tomeffhttp://content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net/atoms/37/14/47/34/3714473436c5252c94276d9dfe3f495a.jpg
17:56.18phhRPC vbatt_read
17:56.19tomeffups
17:56.21Captnoordlol
17:56.37Captnoordphh there is a nice battery patch
17:56.55Captnoordon codeaurora
17:56.58Captnoordpatch directory
17:57.01Captnoorddirectory
17:57.02phhmmmm ?
17:57.05Captnoordusing diff rpc stuff
17:57.07phhurl ? :p
17:57.33Captnoordhttps://www.codeaurora.org/wiki/QAEP_Patch_Releases
17:57.42CaptnoordPATCH_carrot.cupcake_1138_BatteryDriver_20090601.tar (2).gz
18:00.45Woutphh: any dev in particular you think I could ask about it?
18:00.50phhno
18:02.11phhCaptnoord: no stuff for us
18:02.19phhwe don't have 3000...001a stuf
18:02.19phhf
18:02.31Captnoordk
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18:04.37Wout:/
18:06.21Woutlast question, any other kind of logging/dumping I can do when it occurs again?
18:07.18phhnot that I can think of
18:07.46phhCaptnoord: for RPC.... blind tries, or wince reverse ? :D
18:08.46Captnoordbattery isn't done trough rpc on wince
18:08.55Captnoordso blind tries I guess
18:12.20vinz0rCaptnoord, how is it done then, in wince?
18:12.57Captnoordtemperature correction
18:13.01Captnoorddischarge correction
18:13.18balsatis this the Xdandroid home http://htcandroid.xland.cz i cant see latest build?
18:13.27Captnoordand a voltage to level function which uses about 4 points
18:13.35balsator isent it uploaded yet
18:13.41phhCaptnoord: it's not done through rpc on rhod ?
18:13.52CaptnoordI don't know....
18:13.54phhok
18:13.55CaptnoordI don't have batt.dll
18:14.01phhit's in batt.dll ?
18:14.02phhok
18:14.02Captnoordas that one wraps all the real stuff
18:14.04Captnoordyea
18:14.11CaptnoordWout: can you gimme batt.dll
18:14.16Captnoordand oem_misc.dll
18:14.53stinebdbalsat: did you read the thread? http://www.4shared.com/file/252941964/11b95fa6/XDANDROID31310.html
18:15.20balsatnice, thanks
18:15.49Woutsure, one sec
18:16.02phhstinebd: how is android building coming along ?
18:16.16stinebdphh: i've been working, haven't been able to do any android stuff
18:16.36phhstinebd: ok, all of your work about it is on gitorious  ?
18:16.53Woutstinebd: do you happen to know anything about ril? :P
18:18.04stinebdphh: xdandroid-vendor isn't useful yet. i've been using generic builds with settings in buildspec.mk
18:18.20stinebdwhich makes more sense now that we have most of the hardware support stuff in rootfs
18:18.40WoutCaptnoord: where are those dll's located?
18:18.51stinebdWout: no, sorry
18:19.02stinebdi have to go to the dentist now, probably be back in like 2 hours
18:19.11CaptnoordWout I don't know
18:19.16Captnoordsomewhere in the windows dir I guess
18:19.35Woutprolly hidden, lemme check again
18:19.57CaptnoordDCW 4047                ; DATA XREF: sub_10008504+B0o
18:19.58Captnoord.data:1000F1F8                                         ; sub_10008504+110o ...
18:19.58Captnoord.data:1000F1FA                 DCW 3976
18:19.58Captnoord.data:1000F1FC                 DCW 3895
18:19.58Captnoord.data:1000F1FE                 DCW 3839
18:19.58Captnoord.data:1000F200                 DCW 3775
18:19.58Captnoord.data:1000F202                 DCW 3738
18:19.59Captnoord.data:1000F204                 DCW 3711
18:19.59Captnoord.data:1000F206                 DCW 3694
18:19.59Captnoord.data:1000F208                 DCW 3678
18:19.59Captnoordlol
18:20.01Captnoordits even easier
18:20.13phhCaptnoord: they use hardcoded values too ?
18:20.19Captnoordyup
18:20.32Captnoordon the raph and diamond they are fuckedup within a function
18:20.43Captnoordon the topaz and stuff
18:20.47Captnoordits just that list
18:20.48Captnoordlol
18:21.16Captnoordbut its not fun
18:21.23Captnoordreally not fun to reverse that
18:21.28Captnoordnah lets do first the raph
18:21.32phhlol
18:21.52CaptnoordI got that one almost finished
18:21.59Captnoordjust need to double check
18:22.03Captnoordits a simple version
18:22.07Captnoordwithout the temperature correction
18:22.11Captnoordand the current correction
18:22.51phhgroumpf
18:22.56phhcan't copy battdrvr.dll
18:25.16WoutCaptnoord, can give you the batt.dll on msn
18:25.35Captnoordk
18:25.36Captnoordsure
18:28.02Captnoordwince 37%
18:28.10CaptnoordI think it would really fuckup everything
18:28.17Captnoordbecause I don't use the corrections
18:28.21Captnoordbut what the hell
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18:30.05phhthere is one thing I've also been wondering.
18:30.12phhwhy is ELF library really quick to scan in ida
18:30.17phhbut PE ones, slow as hell ?
18:30.33phhI've some theory about wince guys, but well.
18:30.37CaptnoordI don't know
18:33.03Captnoordokey first try is failk
18:33.05Captnoordfail
18:33.05Captnoordlol
18:33.19phh-8926% ?
18:33.31Captnoordnah less than 5%
18:33.48CaptnoordI keep the check so it doesn't fuckup when its < 5 %
18:34.17phhunfair :p
18:34.48Captnoordhehe
18:37.49Captnoordphh btw your way of setting mic bias in htc_accoustic is good
18:37.55Captnoordits done about the same in wince
18:38.19vinz0rCaptnoord, I've been trying to fix some of the battery stuff on diamond too, but i never found that hardcoded lookup table you just showed...
18:38.20phhI would have guess so since cr2 reversed that too.
18:38.48Captnoordvinz0r: because thats not the way its done on the diamond
18:38.56vinz0roh well :)
18:39.02Captnoordplease reread it
18:39.28vinz0ri did a lot of charges / discharges and noted the values that showed up in ram via haret, but never found any good function to fit it...
18:39.47Captnoordhehe
18:39.52Captnoordas its extremely hard todo
18:41.04vinz0ri'm quite into batteries, but even the temperature readout wasn't fitting anything the htc battery test read out ... :s
18:41.07phhCaptnoord: hey genius wince guy. would it be hard to replace htc's rpc libs with one made by us with some tracing ?
18:41.46Captnoordvinz0r: ?
18:41.54Captnoordthe temperature readout I reversed
18:42.07Captnoordthe current implementation only uses a lookup table
18:42.12Captnoordas we don't have float math
18:42.13vinz0rreally? i haven't check up on the code since at least two moths!
18:42.21vinz0rmonths*
18:42.25Captnoordphh I don't know
18:42.29phhok
18:42.30CaptnoordI really don't know
18:42.57vinz0rCaptnoord,  i'll check your code out!
18:43.04Captnoordhehe
18:43.14Captnoordits correct
18:43.22Captnoordunless I just simply suck at reversing
18:43.32Captnoordnah I double checked everything with the raw numbers from haret
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18:55.14MrPippymakkonen: can you test out a RIL patch?
19:03.36makkonennot right at this moment, but I should be able to later in the afternoon. what's up?
19:07.22Captnoordphh what we could do is create a wrapper dll
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19:07.31Captnoordand rehook all the dll procs
19:07.40Captnoordflash it into a rom
19:07.50MrPippyi've got a patch to bring rhodium into the ril tree, it all works on my diam but its not activated so i can't test everything
19:08.36Captnoordphh
19:08.37Captnoordhttp://hawksoft.com/gltrace/
19:08.46Captnoordexample on how its done with opengl32.dll
19:08.56kholkis wondering why is this damn linux freezing. it's like msm_fb does something wrong.
19:08.57Captnoordexactly the same we could do with the rpc dlls
19:09.23dcordeskholk, I doubt it's related
19:09.41kholkI've noticed a thing
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19:09.47kholkwhen the kernel hangs
19:09.54kholkthe screen flashes!
19:10.04Scepterrhey kholk, still uling builds ? havent checked in a while
19:11.05kholkheh
19:11.06kholkyes
19:11.17kholkwhen there is an update my server automatically builds a kernel
19:11.40kholkbut there's a problem on the USB thing
19:11.42kholkand on msm_fb
19:11.52kholkwhen I try to use USB the kernel hangs
19:12.00kholkand sometimes hangs flashing the screen
19:12.10kholkit's like that there is something wrong with msm_fb
19:12.12makkonenMrPippy: ok. if you send the patch or the RIL, I'll try to run it through its paces later.
19:12.13kholkor most likely IRQs
19:12.52Tigerzenthen why udev and sleep command hangs
19:12.58Tigerzenjust this one
19:13.29Tigerzenudev hangs all time
19:13.48kholkTigerzen: I wonder why it doesn't hang with the old kernel
19:13.48kholklol
19:14.14Tigerzeni think there's instruction miss or erro stack memory writing
19:14.20gauner1986kohlk: because hanging is a feature
19:14.26Tigerzenhahaha
19:14.37kholkouh!
19:14.37kholkXD
19:14.54kholkTigerzen: it's better saying "there's an error!"
19:14.55kholkXD
19:15.30kholkanyway, jokes apart, we need someone that has got an HTC Evo
19:15.34MrPippymakkonen: cool thanks, binary is at http://opus.homelinux.com/public_files/libhtcgeneric-ril.so src is at http://opus.homelinux.com/public_files/htcgeneric-ril.c
19:15.57kholkto see if the multitouch controller is the same
19:15.59Tigerzenthere's an error buying leo
19:16.02kholkbecause even the LCD is the same :P
19:16.17phhkholk: hdmi out too ? :p
19:16.31kholkno, but it would be funny to have XD
19:16.34kholklet's solder it!
19:16.37kholklol :P
19:16.58kholkanyway, I was meaning.. if the LCD is the same
19:17.09kholkmaybe even the multitouch controller is the same
19:17.11phhah evo's hdmi out isn't on micro usb ?
19:17.19Tigerzennop
19:17.24Captnoordhmmm it won't be really usefull untill I code the temperature / current correction
19:17.25kholkno, it isn't a native HDMI port
19:17.26Captnoordbut at least
19:17.26Tigerzenjust near
19:17.30Captnoordits kinda correct
19:17.33kholkHDMI can't just communicate through USB
19:17.49phhkholk: why ?
19:17.51Tigerzenyou can put vga usb card !!^^
19:17.53kholkoups
19:17.53phhthey are just pins ...
19:17.56kholkI wanted to say
19:18.01kholk"it IS a native HDMI port" :P
19:18.07kholkyes they're just pins but
19:18.09Captnoordusb can do like 480 mbs
19:18.17phhhdmi can do 1Gbps
19:18.19Captnoordwith those pins
19:18.20kholkthe USB pins aren't equal to HDMI
19:18.21phhor even more.
19:18.22Captnoordyea
19:18.38phhanyway if evo hasn't hdmi out on micro usb, it's a dead end for htc leo I guess.
19:18.41M900its analog
19:18.44M900TV out
19:18.54M900there is analog on hdmi too
19:18.56Captnoordphh i'll cleanout my battery function after I finished my bath
19:18.57Captnoord:P
19:18.58M900like DVI
19:19.02phhM900: OO
19:19.04kholkevo has got a native HDMI port
19:19.05Captnoordmaybe i'll commit
19:19.14phhI've never seen analog on hdmi
19:19.14kholkeven because the HDMI port needs 20 pins
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19:19.27kholkand HDMI doesn't support analog -_-"
19:19.30M900there is hdmi on every new chinese gadgets
19:19.33M900mp4 players
19:19.42Tigerzenthere's exist usb vga card can some one make's driver too !!!
19:19.50M900its not a real numeric output
19:19.57kholkHDMI -> High Definition Multimedia Interface.......... I don't see the point of analog in "High Definition"
19:19.57kholk:P
19:20.24phhMarcLandis: concerning sound, I'm in topaz' wavedll.dll, it uses some RPCs we don't use at all
19:20.29phhMarkinus: *
19:20.43phhsome names are interesting, like audmgr_suspend_event_rsp_apps
19:20.52phhand snd_compact_sound_stop_modem_reset
19:20.56Tigerzenyes kholk you know just a cable its hdmi
19:20.59phhbut IMHO the first one is the most interesting one.
19:21.14phhif you can suspend events... maybe you have to resume them at some poinjt
19:21.20kholkI can only say..
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19:21.28M900hdmi = peritel + numeric
19:21.37kholk"WOW. Everything has got HDMI... and I haven't got any HDMI TV or monitor. lol."
19:21.43phhkholk: haha
19:21.47kholk:P
19:21.55kholkI'm full of LCD TVs
19:21.59kholkand monitors
19:22.05phhnone has hdmi ?!?
19:22.06kholkand I'm on DVI-I
19:22.06kholklol
19:22.10Markinusphh: hmm it's intresting
19:22.12Tigerzeni got hdmi before 7years now
19:22.12phhhuhu.
19:22.17phhMarkinus: possibly.
19:22.23kholkops, dvi-a
19:22.24kholklol
19:22.29phhMarkinus: I tried to see how this rpc is being called, but it's really not easy ....
19:22.39Tigerzenmy 24pouce does 1980x1980
19:22.54kholklol
19:22.54phhinch*
19:22.54Tigerzenbeat hdmi
19:22.58Markinusphh: why we didn'T see it in the RPC fifo . .hmm
19:23.00kholkI'm on 1440x900, 19"
19:23.17Tigerzen16/9 yeah after 16/9 ?
19:23.19phhMarkinus: don't know
19:23.23kholk16:10
19:23.24phhI hadn't any clean RPC fifo dump
19:23.55phhI want 2560x1440.
19:24.02kholkbluesky monitor by carrefour group
19:24.04kholkhahah :D
19:24.26Tigerzenpicture its picture
19:24.29Markinusphh: I had this one whitch we copared with lin. . .
19:24.42kholksincerely I don't see the need of a too much high resolution
19:24.48Markinusphh: But maybe thay do it very early on system start
19:24.51Tigerzenrealy interessting its pojector
19:25.01phhkholk: put many things on your screen.
19:25.21kholkI've seen the video quality of my PC on HDMI 1080p
19:25.23Tigerzeneasy to works phh
19:25.33kholk48" TV (my uncle rocks)
19:25.41phh52"
19:25.42phhNA.
19:25.43kholkbut sincerely I prefer my 19" LCD
19:25.43kholklol
19:26.06kholkand for the "putting things on screen" thing..
19:26.19kholkwell, using two monitors is better.
19:26.20kholk:P
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19:26.36kholktwo LCD monitors and a 14" CRT TV
19:26.40kholkXD
19:26.47Tigerzeni prefered ega tv with green typo and black font
19:26.52kholk(CRT TV for server works.. XD)
19:26.54M900its maybe componet out
19:26.58M900component
19:27.07M9003 lines analog
19:27.11M900r v b
19:27.15kholkhahah :)
19:27.58Tigerzenwho nows MO5 ?
19:28.02Tigerzenknow
19:28.09M900me :)
19:28.13M900and TO9D
19:28.15M900:p
19:28.27Tigerzenive ported mattel games on it
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19:28.42Markinusphh: did you found the VBUS usb command?
19:28.47Markinus(wince)
19:28.53phhMarkinus: I found one possible name
19:29.00kholkgoin' to eat
19:29.04kholkbrb in 15 mins
19:29.11Tigerzengood eat
19:29.16k_linuxHi there
19:29.23phhhey k_linux
19:29.30k_linuxhow it goes
19:29.38Tigerzenkholk udev hangs for you to ?
19:29.50Hoochsterafternoon
19:30.06k_linuxphh: still fighting with sound on rhod ?? :)
19:30.16phhk_linux: among other things
19:30.25phhi'm also trying to see some stuff for gps
19:30.48k_linuxphh: I shared the new system everything is sized now
19:30.52k_linuxcool
19:30.53phhi've seen
19:30.59phhand i've seen a video, it looks great
19:31.03phhbut I'm still not sure I want it
19:31.32M900the n200 ?
19:31.38phhM900: ?
19:31.47M900or s200 ?
19:31.57phhwhat are you talking about ?
19:31.59M900erfh, the acer android...
19:32.05k_linuxphh: really
19:32.09phhM900: what about it ?
19:32.12M900dont remember the ref...
19:32.13phhacer liquid :p
19:32.15phhS200 I think
19:32.17M900yea :)
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19:32.25Woutk_linux: played around with it some more today, sense is pretty sweet :)
19:32.27M900qsd one
19:33.00k_linuxthe naw system had no FC anymore
19:33.12k_linuxbut setting FC :(
19:33.16k_linuxnew*
19:33.30phhM900: the one that is really cheap, and that I'd like to buy as a game console ? :p
19:33.40M900:)
19:33.47M900buy a tablet pc :p
19:33.51M900to do that
19:33.56phhI've one.
19:34.01phhbut I can't see the link ... ?
19:34.20M900you dont need a phone to play games :p
19:34.43unitypunkcan i put android on mah vzw diamond?
19:35.01phha tablet pc has no accelerometer, doesn't fit in my pocket, doesn't have a huge app market
19:35.13phhand doesn't sleep properly and fast
19:35.15M900i mean a "new" tablet pc
19:35.16k_linuxwell see u later
19:35.17unitypunktablet pc's were made for starcraft :(
19:35.22M900"tablet mid"
19:35.28M900the 7" ones
19:35.37M900or 5"
19:35.39phhM900: you put 7" stuff in your pocket ?
19:35.47phhI can barely take my rhod ...
19:35.55M900yea, 7" is possible
19:35.56Markinusphh: nexus?
19:36.08phhMarkinus: for usb host, hsu_api_init_phy, hsu_api_vbus_powerup, hsu_api_vbus_shutdown
19:36.13M900almost a PSP
19:36.23phhMarkinus: not really the same price.
19:36.34Markinusphh: ohh, very nice . . maybe we have luck!
19:36.41Markinusphh: hmmm right
19:36.44phhMarkinus: this one exists in rhod's rpc stuff
19:37.10M900:) buy a PSP slim ;) its 160€
19:37.32phhM900: they have gsensor ?
19:37.33phhgps ?
19:37.43phhcompass ? camera sensor ?
19:37.51Markinusphh: or a Leo then you can help us! :)
19:38.02phhMarkinus: yeah.... no.
19:38.02M900make a usb driver :p
19:38.03M900http://www.pixmania.com/fr/fr/sony_playstation/cmr27_cmp2963_cm.html?srcid=165
19:38.06Tigerzenlol
19:38.12phhonly if I can get a leo for as cheap as my rhod :p
19:38.26phhif I'd 300€ to spent, it will be for an acer liquid :p
19:38.46Tigerzenif you help us well we give you present
19:39.14phhI want at least sound working on 6125 before moving on
19:39.24M900na.... ok :) i prefer my SmartQ 5 at 130 euros
19:39.33dcordesphh, Tiger will donate 6 billion euros
19:39.38Tigerzenvilliv x70
19:39.38phhwoooot
19:39.40M900there is 2 usb ports (1 host and 1 normal)
19:39.48Tigerzenno juts my presence
19:39.57M9001 normal for the bluetooth inside
19:40.12phhnormal = slave ?
19:40.13phhhum
19:40.23M900no
19:40.38M900oups, no its the reverse
19:40.45M900inside its the host one
19:41.03phhsmartq7 has external host I think
19:41.13M900yes, but smartq5 is to little
19:41.30M900maybe...
19:41.52M900someone have made a mod to put a real usb port :))
19:42.01M900(host)
19:43.06M900in fact, the 2 ports seems capable of host mode
19:43.08Tigerzensmartq5 does can phone ?
19:43.31M900nop
19:43.39M900except skype ;)
19:43.42phhwho cares about phone *ahum*
19:43.54Tigerzenmany people
19:43.57M900there is a micro inside
19:44.26M900Thanks to the USB Host 2.0, the SmartQ 5 MID works with USB EDGE modem. The MID will probably support 3G HSDPA USB modem as well. It supports alsoWiFi 802.11b/g connectivity.
19:44.54M900<PROTECTED>
19:45.03M900its a real SD card
19:45.07M900not a micro one :)
19:45.27Tigerzenhttp://www.journaldugeek.com/files/2009/03/q5_3.jpg
19:46.18Markinushmmm very nice . .. ehh . . .. device :)
19:46.18Tigerzenreally pretty mid
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19:46.43phhM900: how is 3D on it ?
19:46.47phhi mean drivers.
19:46.51M900and there are patchs for for last kernel mainline
19:47.01M900... thats a good question
19:47.03Tigerzendepend what the chip
19:47.12Tigerzenu915 ?
19:47.13M900its the S3c6410
19:47.20Tigerzenah
19:47.22M900it has 3D inside
19:48.12Tigerzenverry good chip
19:48.14phhI should play with clk regime rpc stuff from userland.
19:48.17phhthat'd be funny :D
19:49.24M900http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org/maillist.html
19:49.39M900mayne patches for 2.6.34 kernel
19:49.44M900many
19:51.03M900ive a big problem i dunno if i can resolve with memory allocation...
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19:51.32M900i set the kernel_offset at 0x6000.0000 (where i can upload from wince without problems) (64MB)
19:51.44M900and i want to allocation banks at 0x5000.0000
19:51.59M900the 64 other mb of my phone...
19:52.03M900to allocate erfg
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19:52.16phhhave you seen the fixup stuff ?
19:52.20M900yes
19:52.27phhit doesn't fit your needs ?
19:52.36M900but linux tell me bad vmalloc
19:52.46M900in fact because its before the 0x6000 offset
19:52.50M900of kernel
19:53.38M900the problem... there is a DMA lock for the framebuffer
19:53.44M900at 0x5200 0000
19:53.59M900if i shut down that.. i cant have logs during boot
19:54.35M900its why i use the 0x6000 0000 area from haret and in kernel config
19:55.26M900i can allocate 0x5100 0000 and zone after 0x5200 + 768Kb of FB
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19:55.47Tigerzenkholk udev passed ?
19:55.49M900but that make a "BUG:" bad mem vmalloc
19:56.21M900because the PA is "negative"
19:56.24M900VA
19:57.42M900(i mapped in asm the 0x5200 0000 VA to at 0x5200 0000 PA to have frame buffer output)
19:58.56M900i tried with the DISCONTINGMEM... and HIGHMEM
19:59.10*** join/#htc-linux M1DLGpc (~M1DLGpc@bb-87-81-252-83.ukonline.co.uk)
19:59.35M900but ... i think there is no real support for that in arm kernel branch
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20:01.28M900... will try again...
20:02.40M900CONFIG_DISCONTIGMEM_MANUAL
20:05.03M900hmm in fact, that is not a problem... i will play with the 64MB...
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20:09.29Tigerzengauner1986, what news ?
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20:14.50Tigerzenok guys ive got news !!!!!!
20:15.02Tigerzensleep working !!!!!!!!!
20:15.22phhtell that to your doctor.
20:15.27phhI'm not sure he'll tell you it's a good new.
20:15.28Tigerzenlol
20:15.40phhso what did you do ?
20:15.47phhflush timers ?
20:15.55Tigerzeni try to many time touch defconfig
20:16.00phhah.
20:16.07phhI hope you know what you changed ? :p
20:16.11Tigerzenadd some line
20:16.32Tigerzenand output some one
20:23.25Captnoordlol
20:23.43Captnoordnn all
20:24.04chamonix[20:10:38] PUBMSG #htc-linux: <= phh> I'll wait for chamonix's report :) <--- tell me what to do :P
20:24.14phhchamonix: test new kernel
20:24.37chamonix\o7
20:24.38phhbut I'm not sure it changed anything actually.
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20:24.47gauner1986Tigerzen: stop early aprils fool
20:24.48gauner1986:P
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20:25.57Tigerzenhahaha
20:26.20chamonixphh: do I need rootfs as well or is it "just" vbus wakelock?
20:26.28Tigerzenlook at that
20:26.28phhchamonix: vbus + vdd changes
20:26.36Tigerzenhttp://rapidshare.com/files/370074140/Image.html
20:26.54Tigerzencommand works all time no hangs
20:27.20MarkinusTigerzen: what did you change?
20:27.53phh"booted on my TP"
20:28.03Tigerzen#CONFIG_TICK_ONESHOT=y
20:28.03Tigerzen#CONFIG_NO_HZ=y
20:28.03Tigerzen#CONFIG_HIGH_RES_TIMERS=y
20:28.03Tigerzen#CONFIG_GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS_BUILD=y
20:28.03Tigerzen#CONFIG_VMSPLIT_3G=y
20:28.04Tigerzen# CONFIG_VMSPLIT_2G is not set
20:28.06Tigerzen# CONFIG_VMSPLIT_1G is not set
20:28.08Tigerzen#CONFIG_PAGE_OFFSET=0xC0000000
20:28.14chamonixkk, I'll test with default VDDs first, then try my own
20:28.59MarkinusTigerzen: commented all ? hmmm
20:29.07Tigerzenuncomment
20:29.22Tigerzenyeah comment
20:30.33stinebdphh: i'm going to upload the new android bundle to htcandroid.xland if that's ok
20:30.34gauner1986Tigerzen: did you just randomly do things or what?
20:30.35gauner1986:P
20:30.42phhstinebd: sure
20:31.10gauner1986Tigerzen: what about the other hangs?
20:31.14Tigerzengauner1986, fnot realy but i can upload mine defconf
20:31.18Tigerzennot hangs gauner never
20:31.30gauner1986then it boots up android? :D
20:31.44Tigerzennot realy now i test whit initrd modif
20:31.49MarkinusTigerzen: but than there is something else rong . .this have to work . . hmm
20:31.58Markinus*wrong
20:32.07Tigerzengauner1986, says you vode with your feet
20:32.10Tigerzencode
20:32.30Tigerzen^^
20:32.38Tigerzenneed time to test other way
20:34.08chamonixphh: do u prefer me to stay on old xdadroid build or do u prefer result with current?
20:34.18phhchamonix: don't care
20:34.58chamonixkk, then I stay on the old one till WE and will compare with the new one starting from end of week
20:35.39Tigerzenhttp://rapidshare.com/files/370076700/htcleo_defconfig.html
20:36.06gauner1986Tigerzen: no need to put that on rapidshare - use pastebin :)
20:37.07Tigerzenhttp://pastebin.com/upmQpuVX
20:37.13Tigerzenare you happy :p
20:38.31vinz0rbalsat, i just installed your new build, and it's significantly slower than previous one... any idea why?
20:38.33rojohacker1hey guys have u seen this Sprint releases HTC EVO 4G Developer2019s Guide for eager Android devs
20:38.52rojohacker1i found it 2 hours ago
20:38.58gauner1986Tigerzen: yeah :P
20:39.40rojohacker1check this out http://docs.google.com/View?id=dhtsnvs6_57d2hpqtgr
20:41.29Tigerzengood rojohacker
20:43.41rojohacker1no problem
20:43.46TigerzenMArkinus what about alignement trap ?
20:43.51rojohacker1i tought maybe helpfull
20:44.03Tigerzensource more help us
20:44.29rojohacker1anytime i love android OS :)
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20:49.10balsatvinz0r, I think is because the default ramswap is 100mb, the old build was 25mb
20:50.55Tigerzengauner1986, what news ?
20:51.35gauner1986Tigerzen: none on my side.. sorry.. currently involved in studying for exams and shit.. >.<
20:51.46Tigerzenok
20:52.16chamonixup-and-running
20:52.47phhchamonix: good sleep :p
20:53.07balsatvinz0r, try to change cc_disksize in /conf/eclair.user.conf
20:53.13chamonixty :) unfortunately I've to charge first
20:53.22vinz0rbalsat, alrighty, thanks for the pointer!
20:53.36vinz0rbalsat, why is it bigger now? if it slows things down...
20:53.38M900http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nMMzcHhvbM&feature=related
20:53.42M900the smartq :)
20:53.48chamonixphh: have u had time to test any of my apps yet?
20:53.54balsatvinz0r, i forgot to change it ;>)
20:53.59phhchamonix: I stopped at led effects
20:54.00phhearly versions
20:54.01phh:D
20:54.03chamonixlol
20:54.14vinz0ralso, I looks like the new build is constantly starting a lot of apps in background (email, gmail, battery indicator, ...) old build doesn't do that!
20:54.14chamonixhave a look at CommandCenter plz
20:54.19chamonixU'll like it
20:54.26phhok
20:54.30vinz0rhehe ok :)
20:55.11balsatAre you on the first run, or have you rebooted android?
20:55.55vinz0rbalsat, all those apps were on the first run
20:56.06vinz0ralso, it was left at 100 mb indeed :)
20:56.22vinz0ri'm rebooting the old build now, but maybe I should put the new one on again... :)
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20:57.03balsatThe apps is installed on the first run
20:57.12balsatand keept in ram
20:58.18vinz0rand second boot, they're not started anymore?
20:59.08balsatI think not
21:00.28vinz0rbalsat, i'm booted into the 27 march build again, and it's _really_ fast. I will try the 25 mb swap setting for the new build in a while
21:00.40vinz0rare there other tweaks I need to know about?
21:01.22balsatNot what i can remember right now
21:01.51chamonixhas anyone tested ThickButtons?
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21:02.01stinebdwhat's that?
21:02.16chamonixa concurrent to swype = rapid entry system
21:02.39chamonixhttp://www.journaldugeek.com/2010/03/29/thickbuttons-un-concurrent-a-swype-sous-android/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LeJournalDuGeek+%28le+Journal+du+Geek%29
21:02.45stinebdeh, i'll stick with swype, i fear change
21:02.49phhchamonix: french :p
21:02.50chamonixlol
21:03.09chamonixwell, is it a problem for u phh ? ;-D
21:03.11phhi'll stick to default android vkeyboard
21:04.04chamonixI'll test because the on-screen keyboard is not precise enuff while driving
21:04.14Markinusphh: the nexus vdds changings are on a i2c regulator. We didn't have this one . .hmm intresting how to change them . . .
21:04.16balsatMost useded keys are fat?
21:04.47stinebdthe most likely keys you need to use next are fat
21:04.57stinebdit predicts which word you're typing
21:05.15phhMarkinus: pmic rpc ?
21:05.24chamonixthe big question is: how to switch language? I type alternatively english, french and german...
21:06.11stinebdscrew them all and use latin
21:06.11chamonixlol
21:06.11phh-_-'
21:06.11chamonixhow do u say CPU in latin?
21:06.14phhMarkinus: I'll play with pmic rpc on 6125 anyway
21:06.21rojohacker1procesador
21:06.26stinebdcentrus processus unitus
21:06.46Markinusphh: cr2 mean it isn'T used
21:06.52phhMarkinus: I know
21:07.02phhMarkinus: it doesn't mean it won't work
21:07.16phhwe already have such a declared, non used rpc in our kernel
21:07.20phhthe CDMA mic bias
21:07.25Markinusphh: right :)
21:07.25gauner1986Tigerzen: tried to boot up android in the meantime?
21:07.30gauner1986:P
21:07.32phhalso the get_khz clk regime functions
21:07.41M900you dont say cpu in latin :p
21:07.57phhMarkinus: oh and I found that rhod might have a rpc for usb init phy
21:08.07Tigerzennop i work on initrd
21:08.22Markinusphh: like sapphire?
21:08.26phhMarkinus: yes
21:09.03vinz0rbalsat, i set compcache to 10, to see what that does :)
21:09.03Markinushmnmm, maybe is there more used as we thought . .
21:09.10MarkinusRPC servers . .
21:09.31TigerzenMarkinus, boot android message msmfb_start_dma
21:09.37Tigerzenkernel panic
21:09.46chamonixpretty cool.... phh that's something for classical keyboards adepts.... it just dynamically changes the size of the keys
21:09.54phhchamonix: oO
21:10.09chamonixtake a look, it's on markets
21:10.20phhthickbuttons ?
21:10.23MarkinusTigerzen: on my device hangs too, same kernel panics as with the old one, signals
21:10.24chamonixyes
21:12.00balsatvinz0r, Running on Diamond
21:12.02balsat?
21:13.45Tigerzenbut last kernel msmfb work right...humm
21:14.01Tigerzenbefore defconf
21:14.06Tigerzeni try other way
21:16.08balsatvinz0r, second boot, and with 25mb swap is alot faster
21:16.24vinz0rbalsat, yes i'm on diam100
21:16.51balsatthen 25 mp swap should be good for you
21:17.06vinz0ralrighty, thanks for the tip!
21:17.36chamonixwant a laugh? http://www.journaldugeek.com/2010/03/29/le-nexus-one-sous-windows-mobile-6-5/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LeJournalDuGeek+%28le+Journal+du+Geek%29
21:20.02Tigerzencomme quoi ça prouve que les gars ils ne savent même pas ce qu'ils vendent
21:20.14chamonix:)
21:20.31vinz0rbalsat, booted your newest build, it's really fast with the tweaked compcache
21:20.48vinz0ri'm using 10 mb right now, i'll try with your suggested 25 mb's
21:20.56vinz0rcompcache is swap memory in ram, right?
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21:23.00Markinusphh: nexus is using for sound (pmic):
21:23.00Markinuspmic_spkr_en_mute(LEFT_SPKR, 0);
21:23.00Markinuspmic_spkr_set_gain(RIGHT_SPKR, SPKR_GAIN_PLUS12DB);
21:23.00Markinusmic_set_spkr_configuration(&scm);
21:23.00Markinuspmic_mic_set_volt(MIC_VOLT_1_80V);
21:23.00Markinuspmic_spkr_en(LEFT_SPKR, 0);
21:31.27dcordes_Tigerzen, ou est la gars du nord, s'il vous plait?
21:31.50Tigerzenhahahaaaaaaa
21:31.56gauner1986could we switch to german or english please :P
21:32.06Tigerzenarmenian ?
21:32.30Tigerzengauner1986,  just read
21:33.19Tigerzenim gonna came crazy now no hangs on sleep and udev but msmfb dont work
21:33.40gauner1986i'm getting crazy on university shit
21:33.44gauner1986i need vacation
21:33.47Tigerzenwhat about ?
21:33.54gauner1986machine learning
21:33.59gauner1986reinforcement learning
21:34.19gauner1986and some statistical shit
21:34.25gauner1986i hate math :)
21:34.40Tigerzeneinstein too
21:35.04M900http://www.journaldugeek.com/files/2010/03/29mar10oub234tcds-540x396.jpg
21:35.08M900wow....
21:35.42gauner1986no big surprise ^^
21:35.51M900RIM is blackberry ?
21:35.54Tigerzenyes
21:36.05M900i dunno this name
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21:36.48Tigerzenwho wait w7
21:37.01Tigerzenhahahaaaaaa
21:37.08M900no :p i wait the end of winmo :p
21:37.10dcordes_journaldegeek? geek? english word! bof
21:37.11TigerzenTigerzen6
21:37.24gauner1986as soon as its possible to flash back to winmo 6.5 i'll give it a try :)
21:37.46Tigerzenfor atm they says no back
21:37.53M900dcordes_: a nice french site about geek gadgets :p
21:37.55gauner1986thats why i wont flash it then
21:37.56gauner1986:P
21:38.20dcordes_M900, I see that. but you seriously need an own french word for geek
21:38.38M900its guik :)
21:38.53dcordes_^^
21:39.14M900and nerd yea...
21:39.23M900no word for that neither
21:39.36spikebikeM900 heh, I wish I could click refresh on that chart to see it in realtime
21:39.45Tigerzendcordes_, rootdelay hangs too  on cmdline ?
21:39.50dcordes_yes
21:40.05balsatThis word comes from English dialect geek, geck: fool, freak; from Low German geck, from Middle Low German. The root geck still survives in Dutch gek: crazy, and in the Alsatian word Gickeleshut: geek's hat, used in carnivals
21:40.06M900came from this page
21:40.07M900http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/03/iphone-os-still-dominates-mobile-web-android-on-the-way-up.ars
21:40.16balsatGerman
21:40.23M900<PROTECTED>
21:40.33spikebikeM900 ya, I saw it hit the blogs, that's pretty amazing
21:40.46dcordes_Tigerzen, rootwait didn't always hang. that might be because it's shorter duration than 1 or 2 sec whatever you put
21:41.01spikebikeseems like android will have a decent lead till the next iphone comes out
21:42.05M900:) but a geek speek english on irc in every country :p
21:42.22balsattrue
21:42.29M900(or try)
21:42.39M900tries
21:42.41M900?
21:43.59dcordes_lol webos pwnd
21:44.49Markinusdcordes: hmmm, what du you think about it? http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0906.2/00980.html
21:45.35gauner1986this sounds like our issue ^^
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21:45.55Markinusgauner1986: I'M not sure . .
21:46.07dcordes_Markinus, do we get any HUNG situation?
21:46.23dcordes_I mean any detectable
21:46.56dcordes_we should run that test thing!
21:47.07Markinusdcordes_: maybe we didn't saw this right. .
21:47.21Markinusdcordes_: yes, I think too
21:47.23dcordes_I'm preparing something
21:47.28Markinusdcordes_: ok
21:47.39dcordes_http://posixtest.sourceforge.net/
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21:48.32Tigerzenyeah champagne !!!
21:49.26TigerzenWho's that one play with my user name lol
21:49.35gauner1986dcordes_, Markinus, maybe we can have a beer or two together, when this stuff is finished :D
21:49.59dcordes_yes on next international htc-linux meeting
21:50.08Markinusright! :)
21:50.22gauner1986depends on where that meeting is :P
21:50.57dcordes_last one was in brussels
21:51.02Tigerzengauner1986,  want know if there's girl too
21:51.15gauner1986Tigerzen: yeah! would of course be nice! :D
21:51.38gauner1986maybe we can get cmonex or someone :D
21:52.04Tigerzenyou can get one yes if you talk with your finger
21:52.20Tigerzenjust ask
21:53.44M900interresting article about AMOLED screens : http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/03/secrets-of-the-nexus-ones-screen-science-color-and-hacks.ars
21:54.19M900resolution is not the real one on this amoled screen... dunno if its the same thing on all amoled ones
21:54.36dcordes_Tigerzen, so I heard rumours you bringing all the armenian girls?
21:54.54Markinusha! ;)
21:55.03gauner1986:D
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21:55.12TigerzenOne its all no thank you !!!!!
21:55.28TigerzenOh my god!!!
21:55.36M900but... on amoled, black doesnt drain power
21:55.59M900the problem is the white...
21:57.58dcordes_Markinus, oh didn't see that guy had builds posted. now I built it from the sourceforge tarball
21:58.27Tigerzendcordes_, are you jalous ?
22:00.25M900Only when compared with an extremely high-res LCD screen like on the Droid .... same screen on my M900 :p
22:01.44M900but.... now there will be more... the Iphone HD screen is 960 * 600
22:02.20Markinusdcordes_:  ohh, yes .. . sorry I didn'T said that . .
22:02.21M900960 x 640
22:02.37dcordes_Markinus, and there were some problems with the build
22:02.59M9001.5 ratio ?? weird
22:03.10dcordes_apple=weirdos
22:03.34M90013.5/9e 15/10e
22:03.36vinz0rbye all, and thx again!
22:04.11M900yea... i weirdos... why not 2 half screens like DS ;p
22:06.07Tigerzenappel all time whant make's difference
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23:31.36randomblamehehehe april 1st is coming
23:32.24IceBoneAnd I'll be busy all day working on a paper.
23:32.26IceBoneHooray!
23:33.04randomblameI have a good ten perfect fake pictures of the incite running android, I'm going to make those assholes who want to run it but don't want to help cry
23:33.22randomblameI also have one of it running wp7s lol
23:33.32IceBoneYeah, quite easy.
23:33.37randomblameyes
23:33.40IceBoneTake a screenshot of OS, transfer to phone, open in full screen.
23:33.43randomblamebut some people are quite stupid
23:33.43IceBoneTake picture.
23:33.58IceBoneI did that with the Desire Sense UI and my diamond.
23:34.16randomblamewww.incite.glitchyrobot.com/foolsday/april1stnum1.jpg
23:34.20randomblamewww.incite.glitchyrobot.com/foolsday/april1stnum1.JPG
23:34.36randomblamewww.incite.glitchyrobot.com/foolsday/april1stnum3.JPG
23:34.53IceBoneDude... if you're gonna use flash, take them at an angle.
23:35.08IceBoneJust a few degree is enough to avoid that ghastly white spot.
23:35.12randomblameno way it makes them look more real, less photoshoped
23:35.21randomblamewww.incite.glitchyrobot.com/foolsday/april1stnum5.JPG
23:35.30randomblamethere's an angled one
23:35.35IceBoneAlso, you might want to rename those files.
23:35.39randomblamewww.incite.glitchyrobot.com/foolsday/april1stnum6.JPG
23:36.16randomblamenaw can't go too far with it
23:36.23randomblamegotta let them figure it out
23:36.28randomblameotherwise I'll be shot
23:36.36IceBonehttp://img.phyrefile.com/icebone/2010/02/17/_ICE8433.jpg
23:36.48IceBoneHere's the new Sense on my Diamond.
23:37.19randomblamehere it is on incite www.incite.glitchyrobot.com/foolsday/april1stnum7.JPG
23:37.27IceBone:D
23:37.32IceBoneAlso, your camera sucks.
23:37.42randomblameit sure does
23:37.58randomblameI shrunk the pics tho so it's not all the cameras fault
23:38.10randomblameit takes high rez pics out of focus
23:38.13IceBoneNo, it never focused on what you were taking.
23:38.19IceBoneYeah.
23:38.42randomblameyep every digital cam I've ever owned has done that
23:38.53IceBoneYou sure you didn't move too close?
23:39.00randomblamethis is a nikon coolpix and I want to kick it sometimes
23:39.02IceBoneTry turning on the macro function.
23:39.15IceBoneIt's that flower thingy.
23:39.31randomblameflower aha I see it
23:39.34randomblamelemmie try
23:39.44IceBoneI haven't used a point & shoot in years, so I've no idea how it would work on your cam.
23:40.20randomblame<PROTECTED>
23:40.25randomblamegod damnit all to hell
23:40.46IceBoneTry reading the instructions manual next time. :D
23:40.47randomblamewhy do they need a mysterious flower labled button to make it take good pictures, can't that just be default
23:40.55IceBoneEven the "getting started" leaflet has that sometimes.
23:41.07IceBonerandomblame: it's to switch the autofocus mode.
23:41.08randomblamethe manual is like 900 pages I have a life
23:41.38IceBoneNormally it focuses from about a metre to infinity, in macro mode it focuses nearer.
23:41.54IceBoneIt's to make the camera focus quicker so it doesn't hunt in the range it doesn't need to.
23:42.31randomblamepoorly implemented when a nerd can't figure it out without the manual
23:43.05IceBoneA proper nerd will know to read at least the "getting started" section. :P
23:43.17IceBoneNow you know, go take better pics.
23:43.40randomblamehmm now it's grainy
23:43.49IceBoneYou set it to Auto ISO?
23:44.08randomblameyup
23:44.27IceBoneWhen you use the flash, set it to lowest ISO.
23:44.40IceBoneIf you don't use the flash, the cam will automatically boost the ISO, if there's not enough light.
23:44.45randomblamethere's little glittery specs floating around everywhere, it's like fairly land
23:44.51IceBoneHigher ISO = shorter time, but grainier photo.
23:45.04IceBoneWipe the lens. :P
23:45.33randomblamelens is clean
23:45.40randomblamelol flash does not turn off
23:45.58randomblameI have been all through the menu finally found the setting to turn it off but it doesn't work
23:46.00IceBoneThen the cam thinks there's enough light if it's set to automatic flash.
23:46.26IceBoneShouldn't one of the directional keys on the back control the flash?
23:46.57randomblameyeah, but when you set it off it stays on, when you set it auto it's always on etc
23:47.23IceBoneThat's odd.
23:47.37IceBoneIs the cam in auto (idiot) mode?
23:48.16randomblameprobably, it acts like an idiot
23:48.30IceBoneDo you have the PSAM modes?
23:48.56randomblamedon't think so
23:49.08randomblamethere may be a firmware update for it, it's my wifes I hardly use it
23:49.32IceBoneI can't really tell you why... sometimes the idiot mode overrides certain settings. Put it in portrait mode or something.
23:50.48randomblameduct tape over the flash - fixed
23:51.01IceBone:D
23:51.10IceBone7 of 9 would say Crude, but effective.
23:51.27randomblameI'm nothing if not crude
23:51.30IceBoneLuckily my cam does what I tell it to and it's a Nikon, too. :D
23:51.47randomblamewhat model so I know how what to replace this with
23:51.55randomblameha
23:52.13IceBonehttp://www.pma-show.com/news_images/00298_nikon-d300-dslr.jpg <-- that one...
23:52.14IceBone>_>
23:52.15IceBone<_<
23:52.39randomblamedslr - out of my price range
23:52.55randomblamewhat are you a member of the paparazi?
23:53.04IceBoneNo, I'm a proper photographer.
23:53.17randomblamethey still have those?
23:53.23IceBoneI can walk up to chicks and ask them to pose for me and they'll do it, don't need to be sneaky.
23:53.37randomblamedoesn't that take all the fun out of it?
23:53.45IceBonehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/icebone/
23:53.46IceBoneNo. :D
23:54.18randomblamenice
23:54.25randomblamethis is taking much better close ups now
23:54.33randomblamemaybe I can take a proper video with it now too
23:54.43IceBoneYeah, just don't forget to turn that function off when you want to take normal photos.
23:54.55randomblamekk
23:56.00randomblamedang I can literally count the pixels on my screen
23:58.34randomblamehere it is on incite www.incite.glitchyrobot.com/foolsday/april1stnum4.JPG
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23:58.46randomblamethere's a nice picture
23:58.55IceBoneThere you go.

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