IRC log for #htc-linux on 20100317

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00:12.16eval-also, my weather widget clock gets its time frozen at the time of first power collapse
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00:12.43eval-i don't think this used to happen before (but suspends were not lasting long)
00:15.11eval-stinebd: if i find the $$$ to get a nexus before moving to europe, will i want the AT&T 3G or t-mobile 3G bands?
00:15.50stinebdeval-: hell if i know. last time i went to europe i couldn't afford cell service
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00:16.23eval-stinebd:  well i'll get a local contract... but yeah it looks outrageous the low limits on data on many carriers
00:16.25stinebdi think tmo might be more common over there
00:17.05makkonenATT definitely isn't.
00:17.57eval-"unlimited" 3G data for 10euro really means <200mb base.de
00:19.44eval-makkonen:  ok yeah i see GSM1900 is north america, brazil... guatemala, el salvador.  a bunch of latin/south americas
00:22.48eval-makkonen:  ugh so the at&t pure has this problem too.  3G 850/1900 is NOT what i want
00:23.26eval-welp, glad i didn't bid on any of those
00:24.52eval-bzo:  your tssc patch is good =)
00:25.50bzoglad to hear it, double tap has been very annoying
00:26.35eval-bzo:  haha yup why i wasted saturday on it!  it was bigger block for me than battery, gps, or camera
00:27.56bzonow if we can just get some better battery life
00:28.37eval-bzo:  yes.  i am befuddled by the suspend/collapse stuff now
00:29.25eval-but i really shouldn't/can't waste more time on this.  i will log my kmsg and try patches tho
00:29.35bzoso are you still seeing the better suspend behavior with the bluetooth irq turned off?
00:29.57eval-bzo:  seems that way.  but i don't know what other commits i pulled in since fri
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00:30.29eval-i doubt the smd or battery indicator changes would do much right
00:31.17bzono doesn't seem like it
00:32.13eval-ok i will be methodical and switch to a version without that comment, go for a few hours with each
00:33.50bzoyeah, would be good to confirm. Sometimes the system gets into a weird state which may have nothing to do with the change you thought was causing it
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00:34.20eval-bzo:  agreed.  wouldn't want anyone else to wast time on this
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00:35.46eval-plus it's good, it forces me to not play with my phone and write my thesis =)
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00:39.19eval-bzo: should screen dimming (off is fine, of course) work?
00:39.28eval-is that a Q of auto settings in windows mobile or something
00:40.02bzoI'm not too knowledgeable about that
00:40.19bzobut I think some fixes were made a while back so that it didn't matter what wm was set too
00:41.05eval-i don't believe it works at all on my diam500.  what do you have, same?
00:42.02bzoyep
00:42.22eval-and?  nothing, right?  constant max-bright?
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00:43.43bzodunno never played with it. It can't be set in android settings?
00:44.22eval-bzo:  when i set it, the dimmer setting appears for a sec, then max bright again.  only time i see some dimming is going to/fro suspend.  to be fair i wasn't watching kmsg when i was doing all that, i haven't dug into it at all
00:46.10bzosounds like it is broken then :)
00:46.45bzoI would ask phh
00:47.21eval-what is pjorrtr?  i think chamonix told me his parser.pl for suspend was up there when he sent it to me
00:47.28eval-i remember making an account but not finding any info in the forums
00:50.13makkonendimmer works if you have autodimming turned off... at least, it does for me. are you saying it doesn't work at all for you, in any circumstance?
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00:50.37eval-oh here it is: http://pjottrr.no-ip.org:81/redmine/boards/1/topics/show/151
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00:52.23eval-makkonen:  i don't know.  i've been using fancy solutions in winmo (lumos or glight)
00:52.30eval-makkonen:  i will disable them and all auto-dimming and see
00:52.40eval-makkonen:  or you mean auto-dimming in android turned off
00:55.20eval-makkonen:  and do you experience that seconds.nanoseconds in your dmesg is 'frozen' during suspend?  doesn't reflect time passed
00:56.11eval-hmm all of chamonix's tests are xdandroid 2/8 and i am running 3/1 ...
00:58.28bzothe nanosecond thing probably has to do with the cpu running at 32khz during suspend and not getting incremented as expected
01:00.49eval-yea it is not that important if we are aware and don't analyze based on those stamps... wonder if it is specific to our branch or other androids do it too
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01:06.17makkoneneval-: yes to time being suspended during collapse. I assumed it was a general thing, but I've not confirmed that.
01:07.10makkonenand I just use the dimmer switch in the 'power controls' widget in android, and it works. haven't tried auto-dimming in android -- don't know how, don't think it'd work. I use lumos in winmo, and it doesn't interfere.
01:07.21mackiehave a forum user on ppcgeeks thread saying his rhod. is charging now
01:07.22makkonenI think I might be having trouble expressing myself clearly tonight.
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01:18.56eval-any reason i shouldn't ebay a US cellular TP2?  will still have gsm for europe?
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01:43.44Hoochsterwhatup bishes!
01:46.08eval-Hoochster:  yo yo
01:48.36Hoochsterhey thesis boy
01:49.12eval-wow, nexus one as a 'flop' http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/03/16/flurry-more-droid-devices-than-iphones-sold-in-first-74-days-on-the-market/
01:49.28eval-Hoochster:  yeah i need to GTFO
01:49.51eval-Hoochster:  play with chamonix's parser on your dmesg, let's figure out power next
01:50.20Hoochsterheh you act like I would know what to look at lol
01:50.51Hoochsterwill read up and see what you are mumbling bout, I can def do dmesg heh
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01:53.08ToAsTcfhphh: u still up?!
01:53.47Hoochsterunlikely heh
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02:33.38eval-ok i got a phone call and checked the dmesg.  no effect of that BT irq change.
02:34.06eval-in fact, i think it slept more, (98%!) and i even hit my first >5min suspend epoch
02:47.35eval-with the BT commented out i slept 75% and had far fewer 1-10min sleeps
02:47.38eval-anyway.
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04:31.34Hoochsterhi
04:31.56AstainHellbringHoochster whats up?
04:32.02Hoochsternotta just playing
04:32.24AstainHellbringI been busy looking at s^3
04:34.34Hoochstermakkonen, http://pastebin.com/tJcauvcG
04:34.49Hoochsters^3?
04:35.58AstainHellbringHoochster http://developer.symbian.org/wiki/index.php/Symbian%5E3
04:37.57makkonenhoochster: thanks. I never bothered cuz I run on a virtual with only one processor.
04:38.27Hoochstereval-, helped with it, so he deserves the credit, just thought would give you a patch to apply to update it if you like
04:39.16makkonenmaybe I'm confused, but shouldn't zImage be on one line and modules and modules_install on the other?
04:40.54makkonenor... nevermind.
04:40.56HoochsterI am no expert but modules I believe just defines the compiling of them, and modules_install is the creation
04:41.20makkonenmodules builds the modules. modules_install just copies them to the other directory.
04:41.52Hoochsterya what I said in a better way lol
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04:43.11HoochsterAstainHellbring, symbian has come a long way heh
04:43.53Hoochsterfinally catching up to the bond phones lol
04:44.29AstainHellbringaye
04:44.39AstainHellbrings^3 finally looking really cool
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06:14.13HoochsterMrPippy, you around?
06:15.39AstainHellbringslaps Hoochster with MrPippy
06:15.51Hoochsterheh
06:15.56Hoochsterwell for when you read the logs
06:16.55HoochsterMrPippy, dunno if it helps at all but doing testing, with the rhodium speaker enabled, of course get static crap for normal stuff but for grins I did a phone call and turned speaker phone on and that audio actually is working, no mic mind you but speaker is working, quiet and no volume control but works?  so dunno if that helps you guys troubleshoot but in case you didn't know
06:17.16Hoochstergo back to researching tv's AstainHellbring heh
06:17.31AstainHellbringlol Hoochster I'm done with that its making me too anxious
06:17.36AstainHellbringI dont have the check yet
06:17.37Hoochsterlol
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06:18.34AstainHellbringstupid att n1 making me want that
06:18.40Hoochsterlol eww
06:18.41Hoochsteratt
06:19.30AstainHellbringHoochster I have att and sprint so the att n1 is nice to me
06:19.48Hoochsterheh blows my mind you are paying for 2 carriers heh
06:20.01AstainHellbringI am not
06:20.06AstainHellbringmy work pays for 1
06:20.10Hoochsterahh ok
06:20.13AstainHellbringand sprint is cheap for me
06:20.21Hoochsterya I had a tilt through work but got tired of carrying 2 phones lol
06:20.24AstainHellbringcause I have a few others paying a good chunk of my bill
06:20.34makkonengood ole sprint, losing money on their plans.
06:20.44Hoochsternot from me heh
06:20.48AstainHellbringgood ole citi discounts
06:20.50HoochsterI pay them so you guys don't have to lol
06:21.25HoochsterI might need your citi discount when supersonic comes out heh
06:21.43AstainHellbringwonder how much supersonic will be from sprint
06:21.51Hoochsterno clue probably way overpriced
06:22.10makkonenhard to figure out their pricing.
06:22.16Hoochsteryup
06:22.22Hoochsterif I was guessing $350
06:22.23Hoochsterheh
06:22.32Hoochsterseems to be the average for a new power phone lol
06:23.00makkonenif it's aimed at business users... yeah, something like that. but most phones they release seem to come up well below that.
06:23.28AstainHellbringseems like they aim android below business
06:23.35Hoochstertrue
06:23.36makkonenyeah.
06:23.55AstainHellbringseems like they push business to BB
06:25.07MrPippyoh cool, so when you click 'speaker' in a phone call the speaker works?
06:25.21Hoochsteryes
06:25.21AstainHellbringhey there MrPippy
06:25.36HoochsterMrPippy, didn't expect it to lol but was testing and playing with things and BOOM
06:25.41Hoochsterwas like wtf don't think that was supposed to happen
06:25.58HoochsterMrPippy, the mic doesn't but guessing that is a different reroute when in speakerphone
06:26.02Hoochsterto use the secondary mic
06:26.20Hoochsterso does that give you something to go on I hope heh
06:26.23AstainHellbringtp2 should use both mics on speaker
06:26.38Hoochsteryes I know but I doubt it is setup to map yet
06:27.00MrPippyyeah the speaker mic uses two i2c chips (audience and the TI adc)
06:28.47AstainHellbringMrPippy what you currently working on and heard anything from no2chem?
06:29.16HoochsterMrPippy, I did not even attempt this before putting the rhod speaker switch on, but assume that would be needed regardless
06:29.27ReefermattnessAstan, get a Samsung TV  :P  No need for research!
06:29.37AstainHellbringReefermattness I dunno as I can afford the samsung
06:29.42HoochsterReefermattness, 100% agree
06:29.49Hoochsterhave a 61" DLP myself
06:30.05ReefermattnessMy brother just picked up a 46" 530 LCD for $900
06:30.18ReefermattnessI have a 52" 650 120hz
06:30.24Reefermattness5 year warranty
06:30.28MrPippyhaven't seen no2chem in a week i think
06:30.28Reefermattness:)
06:30.45AstainHellbringReefermattness I have about 500ish to spend
06:30.49Hoochsterdunno what my warranty is heh did get the extended heh, but it is 120hz now they have 240hz of course lol
06:31.07ReefermattnessCan get a nice plasma for that much
06:31.26ReefermattnessHooch if its a Samsung it should be 5 years from them.
06:31.48Hoochsterunderstood
06:31.51HoochsterI love the TV
06:32.08AstainHellbringI am looking for a 37inch 1080p tv
06:32.17Hoochsterwoulda got the 65" but didn't have room in my entertainment center heh
06:32.22Hoochsterthe 61 goes wall to wall lol
06:32.27MrPippyand i'm gonna test out/commit bzo's tssc patch, then take a look at rhod audio/adsp
06:32.46Hoochsterk I am up for a little bit if you need anything from me but only cuz I can't sleep now that I saw that work heh
06:32.59ReefermattnessHad a samsung 19" square monitor go out, and 4 years 8 months into my warranty they sent me a 21" widescreen replacement, no questions asked.
06:33.08Hoochsternice
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06:33.20ReefermattnessAnyone have a GSM Rhodium and want to try something?
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06:34.53AstainHellbringwow so all samsungs have 5 year warrenty?
06:36.04ReefermattnessI think the 5 year is only extended to certain types of failures, but yes as far as I know.
06:36.37HoochsterMrPippy, not sure what might or might not be when it turned the speaker on:
06:36.39Hoochster[  158.402526] snd_set_device 0 0 0
06:37.11Hoochster[  158.402526] snd_set_device 0 0 0
06:37.15Hoochsterwrong paste sorry
06:37.23Hoochstersnd_set_device 1 0 0
06:37.35Hoochsterabove that snd_ioctl set_device: device 1
06:38.37MrPippyyeah '1' is where it sets to the speaker
06:38.59Hoochster[  158.402526] snd_set_device 0 0 0
06:39.01Hoochstershit
06:39.36Hoochstersnd_set_device 1 1 0 is when pandora plays
06:40.04ReefermattnessMrPippy, I had a question for you too.  How hard would it be to link the keyboard backlight, to the on/off for the screen backlight?  Its never really something I think about, but I happen to be sitting in the dark trying to text right now and its really freakin hard.   ;)
06:41.29MrPippythat should be doable
06:41.50Hoochsterheh I wish it worked as well Reefermattness but wasn't gonna complain about that heh
06:41.56Hoochsterit is a pain though lol
06:42.01MrPippykb backlight on when (keyboard open) && (screen on), i guess
06:42.17MrPippyanyone know how the g1 or droid handle it?
06:42.28Hoochsterfor now ya, unless there is a way to put a timeout on till key press again
06:44.25ReefermattnessHonestly Ive been using Android so much I kinda forget I even have a backlight for my keyboard. I see it in WM rarely and Im like "oooooooh, oh yah i have that!"   lol
06:44.43Hoochsterya snd_set_device 1 1 0 is when pandora hits, phone in-call speaker is 0 0 0 and speakerphone in-call is 1 0 0
06:45.05Hoochsterheh Reefermattness
06:47.04Hoochsterthen when it goes idle out of call it goes to 0 1 0, so not sure what the correlation to the 3 digits are
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06:50.17MrPippyheres the src for a android app that changes kb backlight http://code.google.com/p/darkkeys/source/browse/trunk/src/nl/steffann/darkkeys/DarkKeysService.java
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06:55.24Hoochsternight AstainZZZZZZ
06:55.34Hoochsternot too far off myself heh
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06:58.36MrPippytrout kb backlight is gpio, ours is almost certainly microp
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07:24.20Hoochstergonna try and sleep now heh, night all!
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08:22.03Allaunhello
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08:24.12Allaunhows everyone
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08:28.54FR^2hiho
08:31.32Allaunhows u?
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08:34.29FR^2fine.
08:35.08FR^2I'm just a bit ... confused about the wide variety of "linux based" mobilte phones and phones that can run linux.
08:37.47FR^2I'm planning to buy a new mobile in the next three or so months, and I'm just overwhelmed by the possibilities.
08:38.19eval-FR^2:  =)  yea
08:38.55FR^2Of course, right now there's some kind of "battle" going on, isn't it? LiMo, Maemo, Android, ...
08:39.54FR^2(I "cheaply" bought a htc s730 "wings" and found out there's no way (for me) to install or run linux on it, so next time I want to be better-informed)
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08:41.33eval-FR^2:  check out the status of the various projects at forums.xda-developers.com or http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
08:42.00FR^2Okay, thank you :) I will :)
08:42.02eval-FR^2:  but these are all still works in progress, i think only the HTC Vogue / Kaiser /Polaris has a more or less mature port
08:42.24eval-FR^2:  the rest are kind of 'for fun' and if you want a fully working linux phone you might want to buy one that ships like that :p
08:42.31FR^2Yes, I'm aware of the work-in-progress state. Hmmhmm. HTC Vogue/Kaiser/Polaris?
08:43.58FR^2Before I forget again: Is there any j2me VM for htc linux? I assume it's not that simple, is it?
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08:47.17eval-I don't know.  I know Dalvik (Android) VM is not
08:47.39eval-But people are getting full linux on htc phones, debian/ubuntu, openembedded, etc
08:48.16eval-http://www.assembla.com/wiki/show/j2ab
08:48.54FR^2That's interesting enough :) Of course, simply compiling applications for the cpu etc. doesn't suffice in order to use them on the phone. The most important thing is the gui that has to be adapted to the special environment, so I'm not that blue-eyed that all my dreams will come true.
08:49.53FR^2Ah, j2ab seems to follow an interesting approach.
08:50.35eval-it looks sort of unmaintained?  :/
08:50.57FR^2Seems so, indeed.
08:53.20AllaunWhen chosing a phone make sure you look at the update history and hardware specs. Some of the android phones seem to be left behind <.<
08:55.24sniverihow do I get debug.log from kernel when I`m booting with haret.exe?
08:56.08eval-sniveri:  i don't know why debug.log is but you can use dmesg, cat /proc/kmsg, use adb logcat and you can also do dmesg via ramconsole
08:56.15eval-but don't ask me about the last one i've never done it
08:58.26sniverihmm.. but how to do that if I do not have access to console? is there some trigger that I can turn on when I`m compiling the kernel or something?
08:59.06FR^2Allaun: yes, that "battle" doesn't always have just positive effects, at least not short-term ;)
09:00.23eval-sniveri:  if you can not be certain that you bring up usb0 and run telnetd via /init or /etc/rc.local or something, then i would look into ramconsole which (i believe) requires only kernel support
09:03.18sniveriok.. have to try find it out.. just started to work with HTC Shift trying to build basic busybox setup with buildroot toolset.. I do not know if this is way to go :D
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09:28.02sniveriso ramconsole is "turned on" with CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=y? anything else?
09:28.24eval-i couldn't tell you... maybe someone else it awake...?
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10:14.31TigerzenBoot angstrom linux on Leo !!!
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10:39.16TigerzenI makes boot angstrom linux in Leo but its hungs now on big one Logo loading angstrom
10:39.38Tigerzenwere i can find logo loader and uncomment that to see boot dump ?
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13:19.03Hoochstermornin
13:19.30AstainZZZZZZmorning Hoochster
13:19.51HoochsterI wish I was still ZZZZing
13:19.59AstainZZZZZZme too
13:20.06AstainZZZZZZstupid brain and body
13:20.18Hoochsterheh mine is stupid work heh
13:20.28AstainHellbringlol
13:20.32AstainHellbringI work from home today
13:20.35Hoochsterif it weren't for that silly stuff interferring with my personal life all would be much better lol
13:20.50HoochsterI worked from home all last week heh prob should be in the office occasionally heh
13:21.01AstainHellbringand any day my work is flexible enough that I can come in when I want leave when I want and as long as I get shit done they dont care
13:21.02Hoochstertoday big TVDay?
13:21.37Hoochsternice, they are pretty flexible with me as well, but of course others bitch bout it so I do it for the politics of it all heh
13:23.22AstainHellbringno today not tv day
13:23.25AstainHellbringno got the check yet
13:24.17Hoochsterthis tax check?
13:28.02AstainHellbringHoochster no reimbursement check from work
13:28.55Hoochsterahh
13:30.40AstainHellbringa large chunk of it is milage reimbursement
13:34.50HoochsterI see, they unfortunately rent us cars heh.  but should get some good mileage coming up soon for a local office move heh
13:35.50AstainHellbringnice
13:35.59AstainHellbringHoochster this is just for driving into office on off hours
13:36.11AstainHellbringor to data center from office
13:36.37Hoochsternice, kinda part of the job here heh, data center is on-site so can't use that excuse lol
13:37.47AstainHellbringlol ic
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15:03.02AstainHellbringwhats up here?
15:06.20Hoochsterthe sky usually everywhere?
15:08.42AstainHellbringnah
15:10.22Hoochstertis true
15:10.37AstainHellbringnah ceiling is up here
15:11.28Hoochsterbut if you keep going up you end up in the sky
15:11.39Hoochsterand if you know the ceiling is up then why you asking fool!
15:11.47AstainHellbringlol
15:11.51AstainHellbringcause I bored
15:12.13Hoochstercome do my job
15:12.14Hoochsterlol
15:16.22AstainHellbringwhats your job?
15:16.35HoochsterI don't know anymore
15:16.36Hoochsterlol
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15:16.50HoochsterTelecom Engineer heh
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15:27.07AstainHellbringeww telcom hell no
15:27.12AstainHellbringwell what phone system?
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15:34.40HoochsterNortel
15:35.46Hoochsteractually what I am doing should be up your alley heh, configuring DHCP server in Winblows Server heh, something I never had to deal with lol but tired of waiting on server guys to do it for me so doing it in my lab lol
15:36.02IceBoneFinally installed the drivers for the htc dream from android sdk!
15:37.12AstainHellbringahh yah thats easy shit
15:37.40IceBoneWell, nobody told me I have to go select it manually. :P
15:37.43IceBoneThen read phh's post.
15:37.44AstainHellbringlol
15:37.48IceBoneI need busybox?
15:37.54AstainHellbringwhat version of windows server Hoochster?
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15:44.26IceBoneOk, I've got droid explorer, phone's connected to usb, usb debugging is on.
15:44.28IceBoneNow what?
15:44.36IceBoneDroid Explorer doesn't detect any devices.
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16:02.24IceBoneDamn, the new rootfs/zimage is fast!
16:03.15AstainHellbringIceBone which one?
16:03.58IceBoneI just downloaded them.
16:03.59IceBoneSo...
16:04.23IceBonerootfs-20100314-02071a1.zip
16:04.30IceBonehtc-msm-android@20100317_005013
16:08.26AstainHellbringon which msm device?
16:08.38IceBonediam100
16:08.45AstainHellbringcool
16:08.51IceBoneHmm, this is odd...
16:09.15IceBoneI have 2 all day events set, but even after sync, only 1 is showing.
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17:12.55balsatI want to exchange my Diamond and Arena, with a new one.... someone have some good or bad to say about the Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10?
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17:26.53chamonixhey guys
17:29.54that0n3guyJust thought I'd through up that the tssc patch is work'n good
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17:31.54AstainHellbringtssc?
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17:37.45that0n3guyyeah thats what people were calling, the double tap screen fix
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17:38.03AstainHellbringahh ic
17:38.08AstainHellbringthat0n3guy tp2?
17:38.33that0n3guyyes, sorry.  tp2 = so sick w/ android
17:38.49AstainHellbringhuh
17:38.54that0n3guyI just got my tp2 yesterday, started messing w/ android today
17:39.08AstainHellbringahh gotcha now
17:39.10that0n3guy"sick" as in wicked/awesome/fantastic
17:39.21AstainHellbringstupid slang :)
17:39.34that0n3guyha, yeah
17:40.27AstainHellbringwants good power management and sound support
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17:40.56that0n3guyha, my power managment has been working "ok"
17:41.08that0n3guyhavent tried charging yet though
17:41.08AstainHellbringtoo bad it wont charge for you
17:42.35that0n3guyyeah
17:42.56that0n3guyis the devel on this much like regular linux driver devel?
17:43.09AstainHellbringI believe so
17:43.16AstainHellbringthat0n3guy you done linux driver dev?
17:43.38that0n3guyyeah, but very very little
17:44.12that0n3guymostly messing w/ it to get an old modum to work on an old lappy I had
17:44.46that0n3guyI use linux everyday, at home and on web servers... but not so much devel
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17:46.16that0n3guyI was just wondering, see if I could flip switches and help
17:49.42Hoochsterwhatup
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17:54.10AstainHellbringthat0n3guy download the git and see what you can do
17:54.31that0n3guyI'll mess w/ it
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18:15.26BoominSVXI've been seeing reports of people saying that the RHOD400 won't charge
18:15.46AstainHellbringBoominSVX its cause it wont
18:15.52AstainHellbringin android
18:15.54BoominSVXthey don't all seem to according to the forums
18:16.02BoominSVXbut mine does?
18:16.10AstainHellbringit doesnt I'll bet
18:16.21BoominSVXi'll take that bet
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18:16.34BoominSVXlast 4 kernels or so
18:17.21BoominSVXwhat do you need to see? I'm not changing anything
18:17.46BoominSVXand i'm not here to antagonize. just trying to help out.
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18:29.28sektorNBAhi
18:29.34sektorNBAdid HTC T2223 supports android?
18:29.40TigerzenUP !!!
18:29.43sektorNBAdoes
18:31.01TigerzenMarkinus : i modified initrd for leo and find trick to boot on now Android but need some one to make it compatible Leo
18:31.27MarkinusTigerzen: hi
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18:31.36Tigerzenlo
18:31.39gauner1986hi
18:31.50MarkinusTigerzen: what du you mean with make it compatible?
18:32.01Tigerzendont have cam to take screen shot
18:32.06Tigerzeni make android boot
18:32.14Tigerzenwith progress barre Angstrom see
18:32.22sektorNBACan i install android at HTC T2223 ?
18:32.25AstainHellbringBoominSVX so you run android for 1 hour and batter is not less that it was before?
18:32.37gauner1986Tigerzen: did you get the angstrom initrd working?
18:32.41TigerzenAnd boot all time now no problem
18:32.43Tigerzenyes yes
18:32.49MarkinusTigerzen: cool, can you put it somewehre?
18:32.53Markinusthe initrd?
18:32.54gauner1986Tigerzen: how did you make it work?
18:33.12gauner1986Tigerzen: i always had a problem with the kernel modules
18:33.18gauner1986Tigerzen: with some modules.dep file
18:33.28Tigerzenive do a thread how to its wing linux version you can see on xda android hd2
18:33.47Tigerzengauner yes this is we need to adapte to Leo i suppose
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18:34.39BoominSVXyes. I can leave it on plugged into my computer all night and when I wake up the battery is full again.
18:35.22TigerzenEdit for new page 82$
18:35.49BoominSVXtrying to get shake and save installed to get some pics showing time and batt level
18:36.04BoominSVXbut market doesn't work on this kernel for some reason.
18:37.04TigerzenNeed a uploader ftp or onther one megaupload doesnt work for me
18:37.14BoominSVX...and neither does megaupload for that matter. nothing downloads.
18:37.34gauner1986try rapidshare
18:37.49gauner1986i have a premium acc and will make it permanent
18:38.02Tigerzenmy account its finished
18:38.11gauner1986you can upload without acc
18:38.38Tigerzenok its runing
18:38.51Tigerzenlooks on thread page 82 i porting last edit before wait
18:39.18gauner1986more interesting is: how did you solve the modules.dep problem?
18:39.38AstainHellbringBoominSVX interesting
18:39.54AstainHellbringI haven't tried the latest kernel so that could be some diffs
18:39.59AstainHellbringBoominSVX what rom you running?
18:40.06Tigerzengauner modules.dep problem its because its not right for leo nop ?
18:40.54BoominSVXthe one i'm using now is junk. it was posted on ppc last night
18:41.18TigerzenHTC sens make segmentation fault
18:41.20BoominSVXsupposedly an alpha screen patched version for better touch sensitivity
18:41.24Tigerzenneed kill before
18:42.28gauner1986Tigerzen: it's because the kernel built outside the angstrom tree isn't adapted correctly to the initrd
18:42.43gauner1986Tigerzen: therefore the kernel looks at the wrong modules.dep file
18:43.06Tigerzengauner then what a kernel in boot/Zimage
18:43.16Tigerzenmaybe i changed it from our kernel
18:43.20gauner1986does zImage work now?
18:43.24Tigerzennop
18:43.32gauner1986i always have to take Image
18:43.44BoominSVX<AstainHellbring> Energy leo. Rom doesn't seem to matter, and I noticed about 4 kernels ago.
18:44.10TigerzenI makes one my image with change defconfig and now doesnt blocked
18:44.50AstainHellbringintersting BoominSVX
18:45.43BoominSVXbattery monitor shows voltage increase as well. chages to 4.8v before holding steady.
18:45.46Tigerzenupdate : i put initrd links in xda
18:45.53BoominSVXstays cool if left alone too.
18:47.14that0n3guyBoominSVX: does it show its plugged in?
18:48.54BoominSVXon the front screen it shows the plug and says charged.
18:48.59BoominSVXno change in taskbar icon
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18:50.51Tigerzengauner : boot dump says modprobe: could not parse modules.dep
18:50.58gauner1986yes
18:51.05gauner1986thats the problem
18:51.31Tigerzenyou sure its not on distro ?
18:51.37Tigerzenyou think ist in intrd ?
18:52.03gauner1986i don't know.. i always compiled my kernel seperate from the angstrom toolchain
18:52.24gauner1986because within the angstrom toolchain i always got a kernel panic: /dev/ram cold not be found
18:52.41Tigerzenok i need to compile it with angstrom too to ported wing
18:52.48Tigerzengauner this problem its initrd
18:52.54Tigerzennot right zipped
18:52.55Tigerzen;)
18:52.56gauner1986hm
18:53.07Tigerzennow i work with cpio
18:53.34gauner1986i used the cpio commands from your thread on xda
18:53.42Tigerzeni upload my Image its great all time boot
18:54.01Tigerzenmy one too doesnt work finaly i use this
18:54.26Tigerzenfirst i gunzip ...cpio.gz
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18:55.10gauner1986my angstrom toolchain doesnt create an initrd..
18:55.26gauner1986how do i properly create an initrd for angstrom?
18:55.32that0n3guyBoominSVX: wierd, I'm running the kernel from ppc post (last nightish - says KERNEL2010317...TSSFIX), rootft from first page ppcgeeks and everything else from xandroid010310
18:55.34gauner1986just unzip console and boot image?
18:55.41gauner1986and modules to one dir?
18:56.11that0n3guyBoominSVX: and mine does't appear to be charging
18:56.26Tigerzenworks on root
18:56.56BoominSVXlike i said, some say it does, some say it doesn't.
18:57.10BoominSVXi figured the one that does may hold the secret for the one that doesn't
18:57.14Tigerzencpio -id < .....cpio
18:57.21that0n3guyyeah, Just wanting to compare "stuff"
18:59.04Tigerzenthen i touch file after i do like this "find bin etc init lib mnt_tmp sbin usr dev initrd.d tmp -print0 | cpio -ov -0 --format=newc > ....cpio"
18:59.43BoominSVXwierd part is i've done 3 fresh installs now and downloads wont work on that kernel.
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19:03.07HoochsterI am running that kernel and can get to market and data just fine
19:03.15that0n3guysame w/ me
19:03.19Hoochsterlots others reported no issues either from what I saw
19:03.22that0n3guyI just installed like 10 apps w/ it
19:03.43that0n3guybut I gotta tell ya, I'd rather have your charging boominsvx :)
19:04.32BoominSVXlol, i'm copying my backup data img over. if i can get that I can use shootme to snap a few shots off.
19:05.31HoochsterI believe you on the charging, that could be a number of different things, things that your wm build carried over that it is trickle charging of some sort but it isn't doing a normal charge.  overnight no doubt it would be charged but not in an hour or two like a normal charge would be
19:06.10MarkinusNetRipper: ping
19:06.15Hoochsterand btw shootme is on the storage card under androidapps/media I believe
19:07.11TigerzenUpdate : Image file modified
19:07.14that0n3guyshootme do screenshots?
19:07.20Hoochsteryes
19:07.23that0n3guycoo
19:07.39BoominSVXyea, but i don't have astro yet so I can't see it.
19:07.53BoominSVXthe charge time is actually about equivelent to wm
19:10.10Markinusis here a linuxtogo git specialist? I get on push always this error:
19:10.10Markinusfatal: unable to create 'refs/heads/htc-qsd8k-2.6.29.lock': File exists
19:10.10Markinusdid someone know how to fix that?
19:10.32MarkinusMarkinus: I think this file in on the server
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19:19.11dcordesMarkinus, can you try again?
19:19.31BoominSVXjust used my backup data image and got market back.
19:19.53BoominSVXseems it's just when I do a fresh install using the patched kernel.
19:20.05Markinusdcordes: ahh, ok. No error msg but push is hanging . . hmmm
19:20.31dcordesMarkinus, hanging?
19:20.32HoochsterBoominSVX, that doesn't sound like the kernel then, sounds like your mobile network wasn't registered
19:20.50Markinusdcordes:Writing objects: 100% (7/7), 1.82 KiB, done.
19:20.51MarkinusTotal 7 (delta 5), reused 0 (delta 0)
19:20.57Markinusthen nothing . .
19:21.01Markinushanging
19:21.09Markinushmmm
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19:25.39dcordesMarkinus, can you retry pushing?
19:25.53MarkinusMarkinus: this is what happend the first time too. If I abbort then the lock error is comming again.
19:26.30Markinusdcordes: yes, lock error again
19:26.49dcordesdisconnect
19:27.08BoominSVXwell I got it back now. whatever the reason was is not important.
19:27.13Markinusdcordes: could you fix it? I restart my linux
19:27.32dcordesok try again after a restart
19:27.37BoominSVXlet the log file show that my phone is charging.
19:27.49BoominSVXIf anyone needs me, my name on ppc is the same.
19:28.06dcordesppc geeks website sucks.
19:28.26dcordesxda is better
19:28.47BoominSVXif I had a gsm phone maybe
19:29.21BoominSVXcmda is all ppc. I AM on xda as well though
19:29.32BoominSVXbeen there longer
19:29.36Markinusdcordes: yes, xda is very good
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19:30.16BoominSVXbut it all started with my nextel on HoFo. lol
19:30.30BoominSVXK guys, gotta run. you know how to find me if you need anything or testing.
19:30.39Markinusdcordes: same error . . .hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
19:31.00Markinushanging
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19:31.53dcordesmickeyl, are you there? there are severe problems with linuxtogo git
19:32.46dcordesmickeyl, I think it's some file mode errors, can you have a look?
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19:33.09Markinusdcordes: hmm, I see I cannot ssh to linuxtogo.org. Same error after login the chdir message then haning
19:33.15Markinusdcordes: can you ssh connect?
19:33.18dcordesyes
19:34.03Markinusoh, then is the error maybe here. . . ok, could you finx it again? I will now test with a normal ssh connection
19:34.21Markinusdcordes: thx!
19:34.26dcordesworks ??
19:34.40mickeyldcordes: you have to query florian, it seems they didn't grant me any admin privs since the server move
19:35.14Markinusdcordes: no, but thx for help! :)
19:35.22mickeylas a matter of fact, he just arrived in #oe
19:35.36dcordesMarkinus, oh no problem did you try with that different ssh connection now?
19:35.54Markinusdcordes: yes, same
19:36.03dcordesI will remove the lockfile again
19:36.08Markinusdcordes: will now restart my win7 wirt and my router . .
19:36.48dcordesmickey|tv, ok thx
19:37.02mickey|tvwe should ask him where my admin privs are :)
19:37.15mickey|tvi used to have when we had the old server
19:37.18mickey|tv*shrug*
19:37.19phh[00:48:37] <eval-> OK, so seconds.nanoseconds is not changing during suspend.  Is this expected? <------- yup.
19:37.29that0n3guyso yeah, had my tp2 for 1 day so far... Freezes: WM6.1=1, Android=0.... and I'ved used android about twice as much :)
19:38.00phh[00:50:37] <eval-> and I now have 8 times I slept >5min (as opposed to 0 before), so maybe phh telling me to comment line 347 of board-htcdiamond.c did something? <------- any confirmation yet ?
19:38.39phh[01:17:44] <eval-> stinebd: if i find the $$$ to get a nexus before moving to europe, will i want the AT&T 3G or t-mobile 3G bands? <----- which one is 2100MHz ?
19:38.53phhbut ATT phones might support 2100 too (like TP2 does)
19:39.25Scepterrthey both have 2100
19:39.38Scepterrhttps://www.google.com/phone/choose?hl=en&gl=US&s7e=
19:40.08phh[02:01:02] <bzo> the nanosecond thing probably has to do with the cpu running at 32khz during suspend and not getting incremented as expected <------ A11 CPU is totally stopped, even if it still has a 32kHz
19:40.40phh[02:55:43] <ToAsTcfh> phh: u still up?! <----- sure.. just not when you asked :D
19:40.56Captnoordphh I think I know what todo to make arm9 survice a reset
19:41.04dcordesmickey|tv, he replied florian hat die verbindung getrennt or something
19:41.04phhCaptnoord: oO
19:41.07Captnoordyea....
19:41.08gauner1986Markinus: still unable to commit?
19:41.09CaptnoordoO
19:41.15phhCaptnoord: tell me :p
19:41.24Captnoordits related to the power manager
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19:41.28Captnoordwhen the arm9 boots
19:41.33Captnoordit needs to set a bit high
19:41.40Captnoordso the power manager doesn't reset it
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19:41.50Captnoordotherwise while arm 9 tries to boot
19:41.56Captnoordand settle the voltages
19:41.59Captnoordit gets reset again
19:42.01phh[07:19:32] <Hoochster> MrPippy, dunno if it helps at all but doing testing, with the rhodium speaker enabled, of course get static crap for normal stuff but for grins I did a phone call and turned speaker phone on and that audio actually is working, no mic mind you but speaker is working, quiet and no volume control but works?  so dunno if that helps you guys troubleshoot but in case you didn't know <------ doesn't help at all, as I
19:42.02phh<PROTECTED>
19:42.05Captnoordbecause the voltages are to low
19:42.39phhCaptnoord: uh ?
19:42.45Captnoordpm
19:43.49gauner1986Markinus: still unable to commit?
19:43.52Markinusdcordes: I restarted all pcs and connecting now from win with putty, Exactly the same error, ssh is hanging after connect
19:44.10Markinusgauner1986: yes :(
19:44.25dcordesMarkinus, ok I will try to have somebody fix it and will notify you
19:44.36gauner1986you could maybe send dcordes your diff and let him commit?
19:44.37Markinusdcordes:  thx!
19:44.42dcordesMarkinus, until then I can try commiting with your author data if you want.
19:45.24gauner1986Markinus: did you get usbnet up?
19:46.08eval-phh:  no confirmation on your comment in board-htcdiamond
19:46.09Markinusdcordes: it's not so importand in the moment . .I have a protiotype for a keypad drvier
19:46.21phheval-: ok
19:46.21eval-phh:  i was more methodical and i actually have better sleep profile without the comment
19:46.29eval-phh:  so i don't think it had any effect
19:46.33phhok
19:46.43Markinusgauner1986: sry, I didn'T tried it still now . .
19:46.45eval-phh:  i am increasing to massive 4mb dmesg and will do a full drain today.
19:47.19eval-also, i think it's t-mobile with 2100mhz
19:47.21gauner1986Markinus: hmm.. how did you test usb then?
19:47.26eval-does it matter for me to have UMTS on 900mhz in europe?
19:47.31phheval-: or you could do cat /proc/kmsg > /sdcard/dmesg.
19:47.42phheval-: they are starting to use UMTS on 900MHz
19:47.45phh(higher range)
19:47.52eval-phh:  it looks like timers and alarms are annoying.  would running crontab screw up my suspend?
19:48.01Markinusgauner1986: I see the device connecting with my PC and PC installing the drivers. I missing a right initrd to check all the other things
19:48.07phheval-: don't know :/
19:48.08eval-erm, crond
19:48.14phhI think it won't
19:48.18dcordesMarkinus, ok
19:48.28gauner1986hmm
19:48.45gauner1986Tigerzen said he got angstrom somehow working
19:48.48eval-i think i will be lazy for now.  when i have time to debug why so many suspends fail maybe i will get crond up and test it
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19:49.11Markinusgauner1986: But I'm on USBstuff
19:49.23Markinusgauner1986: need some time
19:49.35phheval-: haha.
19:49.40phhtracing why it fails is awful
19:49.47gauner1986Markinus: don't want to nag you :) take your time.
19:49.49eval-oh?  joy joy
19:49.50phheval-: but you still have vsync always on
19:49.51phh?
19:50.40eval-phh: uhm, well we don't trust powertop completely but yes i think when screen is off without suspend i have vsync
19:51.10phheval-: there is no problem trusting powertop while idling
19:51.13phhnot sleeping
19:51.15eval-phh:  if you have easy suggestion i can compile with changes for that but i don't have time to debug code
19:51.28eval-right.
19:51.36eval-well, there should be no wakeups while suspended
19:51.46phhtell me again what is your mddi client ? :p
19:51.53phheval-: it would explain failed sleeps
19:51.55eval-phh:  mrpippy says epson
19:52.06phhok
19:52.20eval-phh:  your toshiba GPIO changes are also in epson
19:52.23eval-so unless ours differs i don't know what is up
19:52.39gauner1986Markinus: doesn't wifi work with the stock drivers? :)
19:53.00Markinusgauner1986: wifi is not easy
19:53.00eval-i have a lot of mddi_remote_read: failed if that matters
19:53.13Markinusgauner1986: but the same as nexus
19:53.22Markinuswe have all things for it
19:53.25eval-ok i can confirm it's epson
19:53.28gauner1986Markinus: but connected differently?
19:53.40dcordesleo is the easiest msm port in the world
19:53.54Markinusgauner1986: we need the right rootfs and the right system file
19:53.58eval-wait sometimes i see 'init hitachi panel'
19:54.11Markinusgauner1986: no hard, only work
19:54.14phhdcordes: "only" AMSS annoys you.
19:54.21phhdcordes: like on raph/diam now.
19:54.25eval-and later deinit epson panel and epson_unblank
19:54.39Markinusdcordes: :)
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19:55.37Markinusgauner1986: but we have MUCh stuff befor wifi to do
19:56.05gauner1986Markinus: yeah.. i thought if wifi worked out of the box, we could better use that... or maybe bt works out of the box or sth.
19:56.34Markinusgauner1986: we have all things for this  . . .  this is good
19:56.46gauner1986Markinus: but i think you would have thought about this before :P
19:57.08Markinusgauner1986: Rhod has almost the same chip
19:57.33Markinusgauner1986: nexus exact this, so we have the formware and the other stuff
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19:59.46mrquickmy sprint contract is up in june, I just don't know how I can possibly make it that far without a nexus one
20:00.16eval-mrquick:  sell me your old phone :p  which is it?
20:00.26mrquickraph800
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20:00.38eval-mrquick:  herm.  but not gsm
20:00.48mrquicknope!!! argh!!!
20:00.49eval-mrquick:  *t-mobile gsm
20:00.49phhReefermattness: ok, you actually had 15hours of sleep ?
20:00.56phhI hadn't been able to check that yet :p
20:01.20Tigerzengauner : i upload my Image kernel you can test it
20:01.45eval-phh:  more notes re: short sleeps.  i see msm_i2c error, status 43c8, Error during data xfer (-5) and "Couldn't send ch id 00"
20:01.52TigerzenWhat about git Markinus ?
20:02.00TigerzenFix ya ?
20:02.10eval-phh:  also, between exit & enter suspend i often see just two lines: wake lock SMD_DS, expired
20:02.10eval-<PROTECTED>
20:03.07MarkinusTigerzen: no :(
20:03.08phheval-: they are explicit no ?
20:03.20phhthe I2C error is annoying and I still have no clue how to fix it.
20:03.21eval-phh:  ??
20:03.23phhI'm not even sure of the problem
20:03.29eval-what is explicit
20:03.39TigerzenI know the responsable !!!
20:03.53TigerzenIts Dcordes  with here keyboard !! ^^
20:03.58phheval-: it just means that SMD_DS (the mobile data stream), prevents from sleeping for some seconds once it received data
20:04.00phhsame for mmc
20:04.29MarkinusTigerzen: The connection over ssh to linuxtogo isn'T working anymore for me
20:04.36Markinusits hanging after login
20:04.55gauner1986Tigerzen: link?
20:04.57Tigerzenits maybe corrupted ssh key
20:05.01MarkinusTigerzen: this is the reason mhy git isn'T working too, is over ssh too
20:05.11Tigerzenneed admin to clear your user on server
20:05.19dcordesphh, you ltg username is phh ?
20:05.26MarkinusTigerzen:  yes, dcordes is on it
20:05.26gauner1986Markinus: maybe you could try committing without ssh?
20:05.31phhdcordes: yup
20:05.36dcordesMarkinus, annnd yours markinus right?
20:05.41eval-phh:  ok, so basically my carrier sprint is waking up my phone?  who originates the data stream.  the mmc we have more power over fixing?  they always occur together
20:05.47Markinusdcordes: yes
20:05.53phheval-: no, data is the IP network
20:05.55phhnot the cdma thing
20:06.04eval-IP network?
20:06.04Tigerzengauner pages 82 xda Android
20:06.06eval-like, wifi?
20:06.20phheval-: like data on cdma ?
20:06.25eval-okok
20:06.40Reefermattnessphh: Yeah, its more like an average  :P   I've gotten 7 hours on 50% batt of low use (push mail and only a few calls/texts).
20:06.42eval-so my phone running sync or something
20:06.43Markinusgauner1986: I tkink this is working only over ssh ..
20:06.54eval-Reefermattness:  i am jealous
20:06.54Markinussecurity
20:06.56phhReefermattness: ok
20:07.08phhReefermattness: I get ~ 30% of batt for those 7hours :p
20:07.19eval-phh:  i am more jealous
20:07.20eval-wtf
20:07.23ReefermattnessOf course, if I USE my phone constanty I can also kill it in 2 hours.  :P
20:07.24phheval-: lol
20:07.29eval-i get ~6hrs on 70%+
20:07.31phhReefermattness: no way :p
20:07.36phhexactly the same here
20:07.41phhnow the funny part.
20:07.49phhtoday my phone last less than 4hours in wimo.
20:07.51phhI still don't know why.
20:08.01phh(without anything running I believe)
20:08.07gauner1986Markinus: mhm.. at least i can check out without ssh, dunno about commits
20:08.09eval-is it possible android is destroying my battery?
20:08.14phhno
20:08.22eval-i do not feel it is normal for my phone to feel like hot toast all day
20:08.33Reefermattnesswow maybe something got stuck running and didnt close right phh?  Windows in general is very bad about that.
20:08.53phhReefermattness: don't know, it was at 5% before I realized that :p
20:08.56eval-yeah i have lost crazy battery when i leave SIP clients open in winmo for example
20:09.24phheval-: weird
20:09.34phhSIP sends keep alive only once every hour...
20:09.41eval-how warm are your phones?
20:09.50Reefermattnessphh, also on the days i tested for batt length, i made sure no apps were running at all.
20:09.53eval-only once an hour?  wow.  maybe the client was poorly programmed
20:09.58Reefermattnesseval- sometimes my phone is cold  :p
20:10.05Reefermattnesssomething im not used to
20:10.08phhReefermattness: I haven't felt it as cold as my diam
20:10.28phhseriously, when deep sleep first worked on my diam, it felt as cold as a stone
20:10.47eval-oh??  what changed??
20:10.51Reefermattnessyeah i bet, my GF uses my Fuze and its that way.
20:11.06Reefermattnesslittle upset I killed her G1, and had to give it to her  :)
20:12.03Reefermattnessunless someone in here can jtag it  :P  I bricked it like a total noob.
20:12.35AstainHellbringReefermattness what did you do to break the g1?
20:12.56ReefermattnessI dont like to talk about it.  :P
20:13.08AstainHellbringyou sure its bricked?
20:13.21Reefermattnesspretty darn sure.
20:13.31Reefermattnessill tell you what i did, 1 sec  :)
20:13.40AstainHellbringk
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20:17.53MrPippy(!!!!) nexus one coming to sprint "soon"
20:18.12NetRipperReefermattness, i think there are jtag instructions on forum for diamond or raphael.. probably identical for fuze
20:18.48ReefermattnessNetRipper:  Its the g1 i killed, the Fuze I had to give to her to replace it.  :)
20:18.54phhMrPippy: na you stay here helping rhod/raph.
20:18.57Reefermattnessnot a fair trade
20:19.08NetRipperahh
20:19.09NetRipperok
20:19.10dcordesMrPippy, *_*
20:19.32NetRipperReefermattness, put android on your fuze, it'll be fair again
20:19.32NetRipper;)
20:19.53ReefermattnessI did, if it had a bigger screen, I would want it back.  lol
20:20.02NetRipperhehe
20:24.07sniveriI have one stupid question: if I compiling kernel and have enabled it to generate initrd where does it go? :D
20:27.51phhsniveri: in the kernel... ?
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20:29.02dcordesMarkinus, ok I hope it will be fixed soon. somebody is taking care
20:29.11dcordesphh, hope you'll get the access back as well
20:29.31phhdcordes: Markinus has the same problem as me ?
20:29.43Markinusdcordes: thx!
20:29.53sniveriyes I have enabled CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y and CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE="/someplace/rootfs.arm.initramfs_list".. is this the correct way?
20:30.11dcordesphh, seems like it. additionally he's unable to ssh at all
20:30.11Markinusphh: ssh is hanging on login on linuxtogo
20:30.28dcordesphh, initially he was only unable to push
20:31.02dcordesthere will probably be some version update so maybe it's best not to login for a while
20:36.14sniverihmm.. there is just created file at: ~/linux-2.6/usr/initramfs_data.cpio.gz <--is it this?
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20:54.03NetRippersniveri, the initrd created by the kernel only contains modules.. it doesnt contain a shell like bash
20:57.34sniverihmm.. I`m using buildroot to create kernel+uclibc+busybox.. buildroot creates initramfs_list for kernel or maybe I have misunderstood it
21:02.39NetRipperi dont know buildroot
21:03.26sniveriwell.. it did not work out.. I`m in same situation as I was at the morning
21:05.22makkonenwhat device are you building for?
21:05.33sniverihtc shift
21:05.55sniverithere is not much memory to run android or anything fancy
21:06.04makkonenyeah
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21:06.32makkonen...wait. it runs vista.
21:06.51sniveriit runs winmo and vista
21:07.12eval-i notice there are a few winmo wifi sniffers.  are any of these chipsets in our HTCs?  is monitor/promiscuous mode an option with proper driver hacking?
21:07.13sniverithere is msm7200 and normal x86 sides
21:07.49sniveriand I trying to make something for msm7200
21:09.29MrPippyare there any android wifi sniffers? we use the same drivers as all the other htc android phones
21:10.16phhMrPippy: TI driver doesn't handle monitor mode
21:10.41phhwl1251 might though
21:10.56phhMrPippy: btw, in codeaurora's kernel there is master mode for bcm4329... :D
21:11.08dcordessniveri, are you using the kernel from the htc-vogue branch?
21:13.17cr2_+# CONFIG_MSM_DEBUG_UART3 is not net
21:13.49cr2_is not net :)
21:13.52cr2_+CONFIG_CMDLINE="mem=128M"
21:13.57cr2_i think we have more
21:13.57eval-what is disadvantage of wl1251?
21:14.08eval-how hard would putting monitor mode in TI's driver be
21:15.03sniverino I was not using it.. I grabbed a copy straight from kernel.org
21:15.05dcordeshi cr2_
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21:15.17phheval-: really hard.
21:15.24phheval-: wl1251 doesn't integrate well with android
21:15.44eval-but if i understand the various aireplay-ng injection attacks are even more work to support
21:15.55eval-i just think airdrop would be really, really fun :)
21:17.08makkonensniveri: have you tried the initramfs used by the android ports (or the angstrom build that's somewhere on linuxtogo)? it's got all the busybox stuff... might give you more of a leg up than trying to put it together from scratch
21:17.58sniverihave to try that..
21:18.02eval-what is bcm4329?  yet another wifi driver we can use?
21:18.15makkonenit's the nexus one wifi chip
21:18.21eval-ah
21:18.22makkonenrhodium has bcm4325, I think
21:18.29phhmakkonen: yup
21:18.44eval-so there is more chance for rhodium?  or bcm4325 4329 driver code is vastly different
21:19.25phh?
21:19.33phhbcm4325 driver IS the bcm4329 driver
21:19.38phhactually it's called bcm4329
21:19.52phhbut I can't see why would it change anything ?
21:19.55eval-oh.  so codeaura's changes can work
21:20.03phhyes
21:20.06eval-i don't know anything!  i just started this a week ago
21:20.10eval-i am sorry to annoy you :-(
21:20.27phhI don't think wl1251 would handle monitor/Master mode
21:20.44phhbut with nl80211 stack I won't assert anything
21:26.18dcordessniveri, this is not a good idea to use some kernel.org kernel on shift
21:26.45dcordessniveri, http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Kernel#Kernel_for_QCT_MSM7xxx_.28non-A.29_based_devices
21:26.52sniveriwell had to start somewhere ;D
21:28.08dcordesthe problem about kernel.org for the msm based devices is google doesn't care much to go mainline
21:28.43sniverifigured that out as there was some missing files for msm..
21:29.07IceBonehttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/Sephirius/toyota.jpg
21:30.46dcordessniveri, do you have haret already?
21:31.31sniveriyes I have it but I do not know if it is up-to-date.. 0.5.2?
21:32.35dcordeshttp://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=HaRET
21:37.40dcordessniveri, I just added a link for more recent builds there
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21:40.04sniverihave to try those also
21:41.05sniveriand something happened with the new kernel and initrd.. now I`m getting about 3 pixel thick beam of some graphics on screen when booting :D
21:42.40dcordessniveri, with the htc-vogue branch ?
21:42.43dcordeskernel
21:43.05sniverino this is from kernel.org.. sorry
21:43.35sniverihave to try it from htc-vogue branch tonight
21:45.43dcordessniveri, if you do you should use the correct defconfig. I think htcvogue_defconfig or vogue_defconfig. and see default-kaiser.txt in kernel root
21:47.28sniveriok, thank for the info
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21:49.27dcordessniveri, just added a wiki page if you need some room for documentation http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Clio
21:50.39dcordeshmmm. wasn't there some progress specific to the shift? iirc somebody was research the display
21:51.06dcordessniveri, you might search this channel's logs for shift to avoid double work
21:51.22sniveriyep Neutron83 was working on it but never released his job
21:51.58sniveriI have been asking him about it but never got any answers
21:54.29dcordesnow I remember..
21:54.29dcordeswell that's a pity. everything you can do is try avoiding the same mistake
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22:00.19MarkinusNetRipper: I wrote a keypad driver and activated it. But if I press on any button, the device is crashing witherror message. Then I tested a GPIO IRQ request for USB detection, but then .. nothing happend (tested some GPIOS).  The DEX calls are not working too, maybe a IRQ problem too. It seems we have somewhere a problem . .
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22:00.47NetRippereh? hm
22:00.53NetRipperat least some irqs are working now
22:01.01NetRipperare they specific irqs?
22:01.11NetRipperlike demuxed gpio irqs or SIRC irqs?
22:01.57MarkinusNetRipper: GPIO to IRQ (87+)
22:02.14MarkinusGPIO_IRQS
22:10.20cr2_evil wiki
22:10.43dcordescr2_, what's wrong?
22:10.52cr2_it seems i have blocked some image in firefox, so the page does not load
22:11.12dcordesthe htcl tux?
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22:11.21cr2_no
22:11.35cr2_the page is loaded, but is not rendered
22:11.42NetRipperMarkinus, maybe we need to patch GPIO irqs as well
22:11.51cr2_i can click "see page source"
22:11.56k_linuxhi
22:12.05k_linuxphh: around ?
22:12.10phhyup
22:12.17cr2_Markinus: do you configure alt I3 for gpio irqs ?
22:12.19phhk_linux: sorry for your blac :/
22:12.20k_linuxhow it goes
22:12.31MarkinusNetRipper:  this could be
22:12.44k_linuxphh: well he is dead as a good soldier :)
22:12.47Markinuscr2_: hmm, good question
22:12.49cr2_Markinus: there are 3 dex calls used, and 2 dex irqs received
22:13.06k_linuxphh: will play with diam now
22:13.32k_linuxphh: did 3D supported on topaz/rhod ??
22:13.32cr2_ioctl 40 -> vibra on/off -> 0x17/0x18 (motor afair)
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22:14.03cr2_ioctl 54 -> acdb update -> 0x1c,1
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22:14.34cr2_ioctl 68 -> arm9 reboot
22:14.57cr2_ioctl 74 -> dex 0x8a -> don't know what it is
22:15.10phhk_linux: I don't think so
22:15.14phhI'm still not totally sure though :p
22:15.25cr2_and the dex 0x81 -> pick the arm9 rtc value. without rpc
22:15.39Markinuscr2_: no vregs?
22:15.40cr2_hm. one more
22:15.42k_linuxphh: I want to mod init to detect which device is and enable/disable it
22:15.53cr2_dex 0x22 -> restart arm9
22:16.18phhk_linux: you can't
22:16.25k_linuxphh: why ??
22:16.29phhyou can enable 3D only once system is booted
22:16.31phhnot before
22:16.47phhfor blackstone at least
22:17.01cr2_Markinus: hm. good question...
22:17.10k_linuxbut I can chmod hw3dc on init.rc !?
22:17.37k_linuxthis  should enable/disable it no ??
22:17.38phhk_linux: ?!?
22:17.49phhyou can activate 3D with doing correct chmod in init.rc ?
22:17.56phhI can't see how this could possibly work
22:18.52Markinuscr2_: 0x8a in the old pcom is PCOM_GET_BATTERY_DATA
22:18.56k_linuxI will create two init.rc one with chmod 000 and other with chmod 666 and select which one will be loaded on device detection
22:19.03k_linuxwhat do u think ??
22:19.12phhk_linux: does that work on blackstone ?
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22:19.37k_linuxphh: what chmod ??
22:19.42k_linuxif so yes
22:19.43phhchmod 666 /dev/msm_hw3dc
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22:20.08cr2_Markinus: hm. weird. it may be unused though. but this ioctl is in the oem_misc driver
22:20.11k_linuxphh: blac stuck at galloc something
22:20.23cr2_Markinus: what is 8a
22:20.24phhk_linux: thanks, that's what I'm saying.
22:20.33k_linux??
22:20.36cr2_heh. i should use w3m to browse wiki
22:20.39phhk_linux: if you do the chmod only AFTER the system is started
22:20.42phh3D works.
22:21.11Markinuscr2_ : 0x8a: PCOM_GET_BATTERY_DATA
22:21.20eval-hmmm $215 for a gsm diamond2?  how is topaz android, do you need people to test/debug?
22:21.41cr2_Markinus: DEX_* not PCOM_*
22:21.44phheval-: we only need working sound.
22:21.59eval-phh:  so everything same as rhod?  no major diffs
22:22.04cr2_we should end this confusion
22:22.07phheval-: yes
22:22.11phhrhod has some other fun stuff
22:22.22eval-phh:  that are work $100?  like what
22:22.35eval-or you mean 'fun' ;)  as in work
22:22.36k_linuxphh: really!?  I tried the inverse chmod 000 after system stucks and it was ok but never what u said
22:23.18phheval-: it's only a <10hours work
22:23.29phhk_linux: chmod 000 in init.rc, chmod 666 once the system is started
22:24.23eval-huh?  yes i don't mind debugging i would be happy to buy a (cheap) phone i can be useful with (in may.)  i am wondering if rhodium is that much better to topaz (besides keyboard) to be worth $100 more
22:24.36phheval-: definitely.
22:24.44eval-phh:  because?
22:24.50Markinuscr2_ : they are so named in the Headerfile  .PCOM* . .and it is exactly this:
22:24.50MarkinusPCOM_RESET_ARM9 = 0x22
22:24.50MarkinusPCOM_UPDATE_AUDIO = 0x1c
22:24.50MarkinusPCOM_VIBRA_ON = 0x17,
22:24.50MarkinusPCOM_VIBRA_OFF = 0x18,
22:24.51MarkinusPCOM_GET_BATTERY_DATA = 0x8a
22:24.51MarkinusPCOM_READ_RTC = 0x81
22:24.53phh3W speaker
22:25.00phhnoise cancelation stuff
22:25.03phhbetter Wifi/BT chip
22:25.10phhbetter battery
22:25.20phh(nice weapon since it's really heavy...)
22:25.23eval-hahaha
22:25.39cr2_Markinus: ok, it has historical reasons.
22:25.45eval-why is bt/wifi better?  range?
22:25.53eval-or back to the bcm4329 'options'
22:26.06phheval-: better PM at least
22:26.08k_linuxphh: well will try that on oone of blac's testers :)
22:26.16eval-oooh. that matters
22:26.17cr2_Markinus: so these are probably all possible wince dex calls
22:26.28cr2_Markinus: and there are 2 dex irqs (on leo)
22:26.37phheval-: you use wifi in PM ?
22:26.38phhhum.
22:26.40phhin sleeping i mean
22:26.41Markinuscr2_: then we have for vregs something else
22:26.42cr2_Markinus: vbus change, and acdb change
22:26.55cr2_Markinus: yes, i will think about it
22:27.01eval-phh:  very good question.  i disable wifi tho so i presume it's killed?
22:27.06cr2_Markinus: do you detect the board id ?
22:27.10phheval-: yes
22:27.17k_linuxphh: it's really ignoying to have all google's apps running on 1st boot
22:27.18Markinuscr2_: vregs . .
22:27.21cr2_Markinus: because the lcd panel depends on it
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22:27.37MarkinusI need vregs for the LCD id
22:27.41phhk_linux: I know.
22:27.41Markinusboard Id?
22:27.45phhand not only google apps it seems
22:27.55k_linuxphh: that's kernel stuff ?
22:28.06phhno
22:28.06cr2_there are =1 auo, =4 samsung, and =10 sharp panels, + 3 auo options depending on the board id
22:28.08Markinuscr2_: 0xef248
22:28.16Markinussmem? yes?
22:28.25cr2_i think so
22:28.54cr2_if board is !bcc4 then auo normal
22:29.07cr2_if board !bcs 3 then auo 2.8
22:29.12cr2_else auo 3.0
22:29.44Markinusok
22:29.46k_linuxphh: I'm not so sure, I saw that on all android ver from a month or so
22:29.56Hoochsterevening party people
22:30.10cr2_Markinus: i have the full spi triple tables
22:30.24cr2_Markinus: just need to format them, and add to wiki
22:30.35cr2_Markinus: and we need to check the spi send routine
22:30.58dcordesHoochster, good evening party Hoochster
22:31.04Markinuscr2_: is there something missing in mine?
22:31.06cr2_in wince it's spi_send_r0bytereg_r1byteval
22:31.22cr2_which one ?
22:31.33Markinuswiki., all three from SPL
22:31.37k_linuxphh: really I don't know how people can try the rosie package on diam100 and they report it's faster than eclair !!
22:31.47Markinusand the samsung one
22:31.52phhk_linux: DETU.
22:32.05eval-k_linux:  rosie is that 2.1 build you put up on xda?
22:32.10eval-k_linux:  it is most definitely NOT faster.
22:32.13phhI might complete this one with a "TAFI"
22:32.22k_linuxeval: yes
22:32.29phheval-: rosie is another home launcher
22:32.31cr2_Markinus: we have auo
22:32.32phhit's not just 2.1
22:32.42eval-that home++ thing?
22:32.45cr2_Markinus: and you tables do not have 3rd parameter ?
22:32.48k_linuxno
22:32.49eval-or yet another
22:32.56Markinuscr2_: yes, I know, I put the samsung Table and deeper are the three AUO tables
22:32.56phheval-: no, rosie
22:33.03phhhtc's home
22:33.04k_linuxeval: it's TF3D on android
22:33.26eval-k_linux:  ooh sense.  yea i was wondering if sense was a waste on our devices.  is there a donut sense out there?
22:33.30cr2_Markinus: why do you hvae 3 columns ?
22:33.37cr2_s/3/4
22:33.39cr2_s/3/4/
22:33.44cr2_hehe
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22:34.42k_linuxeval: I wish it could exist especially on vga/wvga resolution ! :)
22:36.13cr2_Markinus: samsung is 40,0,0; 41,0,0; 42,0,0; 43,30,0; and so on
22:36.15Markinuscr2_: the first both are the Reg right? then Value? Then sleep? right?
22:36.27cr2_reg,val,sleep
22:36.28k_linuxphh: I found a better security to not load custom files with wrong system
22:36.37cr2_sleep if != 0
22:37.04eval-k_linux:  oh b/c hero's is hvga?
22:37.23Markinuscr2_: I thing I did it right in our panel file . . take a look
22:37.23k_linuxeval: yes 320x480
22:37.36eval-k_linux:  boo.  and we have no sources?
22:37.37k_linuxvs 640/800x480
22:37.44eval-k_linux:  sense is all closed?
22:37.52Markinus*think
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22:37.58cr2_Markinus: what is your table length ?
22:38.03k_linuxeval: I think so
22:38.31cr2_should be 0x162 for normal, and 0x168+3 for 2.8 and 3.0
22:38.32Markinuscr2_: 118 lines
22:38.40eval-i am so cheap.  i am very tempted to grab this topaz for $200 and stop wasting time on ebay
22:38.49Markinuscr2_: hmm
22:39.02k_linuxeval: if only someone point me on how to apk especialy htc desire ones to make them work on blac
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22:39.43cr2_Markinus: ok, i'll think about vregs
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22:41.18eval-k_linux:  sorry i am just as (probably more) clueless than you for now.  if htc released sense on same android release for devices with two different resolutions, it might be possible to look at diffs or disassemble / hex edit to make for new resolutions but i would not be your man
22:42.50k_linuxeval: I should ask scanny he did some mod on apk and he is working on port it to blac
22:43.03Markinuscr2_: the lenghts are 0x162, 0x16b, 0x16b,
22:43.51Markinuscr2_: means: 0x162 + 3*3
22:44.08k_linuxphh: did u take a look at connecting android to htc sync ?
22:44.17phhk_linux: yes.
22:44.21k_linuxand
22:44.21phhand windows on desktop totally sucks.
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22:44.30phhIt didn't even succeeded in installing this software.
22:44.57k_linuxu mean on your windows desktop ?
22:45.02phhyes
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22:46.08k_linuxphh: I installed it before but not succeded to connect it, I should give it a second try
22:48.09diiishe-awayhey eval- u still want to buy a TP2?
22:50.54cr2_Markinus: 0x168|3
22:51.11cr2_=0x16b, ok
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22:52.48Markinuscr2_: ahh, ok.
22:52.53Markinuscr2_: board ID  00000004
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22:53.26k_linux1phh: I confirm diam guys have a lot of patience to try rosie package more than 1/2 hour from 1st to rosie !!
22:53.40phhhuhu
22:53.42eval-diiishe-away:  yea
22:53.51eval-diiishe-away:  i'm almost ready to bust $200 on a topaz
22:54.06eval-diiishe-away:  b/c most TP2 are going >$275 on ebay :-/
22:54.11diiishe-awayLOL
22:54.19diiishe-awayif you're going to spend 200 anyway, I'll sell u mine
22:54.24eval-http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120541676633#ht_500wt_1165
22:54.35eval-diiishe-away:  what carrier
22:54.48diiishe-awaySprint
22:54.52diiishe-awayI told u about it, remember?
22:55.04eval-i think so
22:55.05k_linux1phh: will activate swap to help it booting faster
22:55.10diiishe-awayThe corner of the plastics started to come up
22:55.13phhk_linux1: I don't think so.
22:55.20phhk_linux1: but maybe set ramzswap to a "normal" value
22:55.22phhlike 20MB
22:55.33k_linux1ok
22:55.47gauner1986Markinus: what are you working on currently? :)
22:57.03dcordesI don't know if the ebay links are so cool
22:57.13Markinusgauner1986: we are working on panel and board detection, and much other stuff . . . we have very meny small things to do
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23:04.41gauner1986Markinus: is it really that complicated to get it running?
23:05.39k_linux1phh: where can I set it :)
23:05.46phhk_linux1: sdcard/conf/blabla
23:05.54k_linux1thx
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23:07.31k_linux1cc_disksize=100 <= is it that ?
23:07.51phhyes
23:07.55phhthat's 100MB
23:08.09k_linux1should be 20
23:08.16phhchose :p
23:08.26phhI'm not sure of what would be right
23:09.05k_linux11/4 of ram I think 25
23:11.09k_linux1well will go home now see u
23:15.38eval-yes why is our ramzswap so high
23:15.43eval-which we never use b/c we set swappiness 0
23:15.50eval-i say we make it much lower and up the swapiness
23:16.12phheval-: it's used.
23:16.34phheval-: swapiness is the tendency to use swap...... if there is a choice !
23:16.57eval-phh:  only time i see swap touched was when i increased swappiness.  even when apps were being killed left and right, acore crashing, etc, i never saw swap get touched.  maybe android is too 'smart' about killing off apps before swappiness 0 swap would be used?
23:17.07eval-phh:  you've seen it used on your phones?
23:17.12phheval-: yes
23:17.18phhmostly diamond
23:17.20phhnot sure for rhod
23:17.25eval-hmm i'm on diamond
23:17.30phhdiam100.
23:17.37eval-diam500.  are they so different?
23:17.43eval-well, i guess obviously they cannot sleep together
23:17.49eval-or, the same
23:18.00phhdiam500 has 288MB of ram
23:18.05phhdiam100 has 196
23:18.09eval-ooooh big diff
23:18.18eval-what is 196 in real terms?  100?
23:18.23eval-after all the mem holes
23:18.28eval-that must be tough for android no
23:18.53phh107
23:19.34Markinuscr2_: cr2_   Markinus: do you configure alt I3 for gpio irqs ? --> I dodn't know what you mean, how can I do it?
23:19.47eval-are diam100 & 500 only cdma/gsm models that differ in ram?
23:20.02eval-a diamond2 and an at&t diamond2 will be same
23:20.14phhat&t is gsm "a diamond2" too -_-'
23:20.18phhbut still, yes
23:20.21eval-ooh just like rhodium?
23:20.24eval-double radio?
23:20.25phhonly diam has different cdma/gsm devices
23:20.35phhno, at&t network IS gsm.
23:20.44eval-yes but annoying gsm bands
23:20.45eval-right duh
23:20.48eval-i'm dumb
23:20.59phhna, ATT tilt2 is world phone
23:21.07phhit handles most (all?) 3G/GSM frequencies
23:22.50eval-but at&t pure does UMTS 850 & 1900
23:22.55eval-that is mostly useless abroad right
23:23.02phhyes
23:26.08eval-ok i think potential bcm4329 magic has convinced me to hold out for a cheap TP2 if possible
23:26.13eval-oh yes, and use as deadly weapon :p
23:27.02Markinusphh: any new Ideas for sound?
23:27.13phhMarkinus: no :/
23:27.26phhi'll retry dumping/tracing clocks and rail things
23:27.50Markinusphh: :(
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