| 00:00.00 | Hoochster | heh get busy bud that needs to come first |
| 00:01.34 | eval- | Hoochster: i know i know =( |
| 00:02.00 | eval- | Hoochster: i am trying to decide whether to find a refurb gsm topaz or rhodium for europe |
| 00:02.02 | Hoochster | eval-, did you finish it, or still working on it? |
| 00:02.14 | eval- | Hoochster: ie, still procrastinating. of course, if i don't graduate, i don't have a job in europe |
| 00:02.17 | eval- | oh, the irony |
| 00:02.24 | Hoochster | lol |
| 00:02.54 | Hoochster | well minimize the irc chat window or close it all together and take care of numero uno first |
| 00:03.07 | eval- | =( |
| 00:03.18 | Hoochster | I know it isn't as much fun, but much less stressful |
| 00:05.51 | eval- | ok you be my advocate, get MrPippy or makkonen to kill an hour and find out why clearing sample_count & queue_index & returning before doing touch_input_up to enable_irq again and then immediately start over spares us from the smd_7500 hardware(software?) 'noise' |
| 00:06.05 | eval- | Hoochster: haha yea, not much fun. you mean i shouldn't try to boot ubuntu.img on my diamond? :p |
| 00:06.18 | Hoochster | I made a patch, and still have the pastebin of your patch last night so will try and get them to look at it |
| 00:06.55 | Hoochster | get your job first then you can worry bout diamonds! :) |
| 00:08.35 | eval- | that only CDMAs seems to have big problems, that we have no problem in airplane mode, and that doing nothing for one entry to touch_input_up are all big clues. i think this could be solvable 'correctly' by someone with a better understanding of tssc_manager. at the least we can rip out the touch_average junk (or make it work?) and do better debounce/filter than what i have |
| 00:09.12 | Hoochster | thanks to the hack I can successfully use Touchdown and enter my work security pin without having to backspace all the time lol |
| 00:09.25 | eval- | Hoochster: i was getting multiple backspaces! |
| 00:09.30 | eval- | Hoochster: it was driving me crazy |
| 00:09.40 | eval- | Hoochster: i began to care less how my hack worked than that it did |
| 00:09.42 | Hoochster | haven't tried airplane mode, so it didn't do it at all there? |
| 00:09.54 | eval- | Hoochster: nope. that was phh's insight last night |
| 00:10.03 | eval- | b/c he says on gsm they don't have such an issue |
| 00:10.12 | eval- | tho makkonen seemed unsure |
| 00:10.15 | Hoochster | hmm, that explains why a user on the forums with metropcs said he didn't have an issue either, maybe it is an ril thing |
| 00:10.32 | eval- | Hoochster: yes, it might go away when parts of smd_7500 get fixed |
| 00:11.00 | eval- | Hoochster: it is still unclear to me whether it's physical radio interference or some funky buffer / irq funniness |
| 00:11.42 | eval- | Hoochster: but i do think tssc_status.penirq_status & tssc_status.busy give spurious pen up indication |
| 00:11.46 | Hoochster | ya didn't relaize it didn't happen with radio off |
| 00:11.51 | eval- | question is why |
| 00:12.02 | eval- | Hoochster: confirm it for us if you like. so far n=2 just me and makkonen |
| 00:12.35 | eval- | I used to think it was CPU |
| 00:13.17 | Hoochster | might have to throw the reg kernel on and see |
| 00:14.53 | eval- | is US 'cdma' the only dual gsm/cdma htc out there? |
| 00:15.03 | eval- | erm, US cdma rhodium |
| 00:15.31 | Hoochster | not sure on that one |
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| 00:29.52 | Hoochster | ok had to take care of some things first, but now bout to put the autobuild kernel on and will report back |
| 00:31.56 | noisyzen | phh: I saw you guys talking about GSM losing connection and rootfs. Is that better to use a pre-3/6 rootfs? |
| 00:33.06 | noisyzen | phh: After I am on a call, the signal bars show unconnected, and then I get a network error if I try to make a call (displayed in an error box). The phone network settings are then greyed out. |
| 00:34.10 | eval- | i thought the pre 3/6 was the 3G dropping on sms? |
| 00:34.20 | eval- | then again my 3G drops all the time nowadays =( but im CDMA |
| 00:34.27 | noisyzen | hmm. |
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| 00:35.21 | eval- | is anything special about rhobuntu zImage or can i use any |
| 00:35.36 | Hoochster | that doesn't sound like a thesis question |
| 00:35.47 | noisyzen | eval-: I've gotten some sms messages okay without dropping, but after a phone call, it drops. |
| 00:36.03 | noisyzen | Hoochster: lol. eval- supposed to be doing a thesis, I take it? |
| 00:36.07 | Hoochster | ohh how I DIDN'T miss doubletap |
| 00:36.11 | Hoochster | noisyzen, yup |
| 00:36.28 | eval- | noisyzen: hmm haven't noticed. i notice my disconnect on sms send |
| 00:36.37 | eval- | yeah =( i was supposed to hand in last week |
| 00:36.42 | eval- | but my professor is too lazy to give me comments! |
| 00:36.45 | eval- | so i am being lazy too |
| 00:36.48 | Hoochster | eval-, confirmed no dt with airplane mode |
| 00:36.51 | Hoochster | so def a radio issue |
| 00:37.07 | eval- | yeah. that may explain why cdma/smd_7500 people are afflicted |
| 00:37.23 | MoonShadow | Hoochster, that's weird as. Any idea of the cause? |
| 00:37.25 | Hoochster | what exactly is smd_7500? |
| 00:37.26 | eval- | i guess many of the devs are gsm? |
| 00:37.49 | Hoochster | lots are but MrPippy isn't and neither is makkonen I don't believe but could be wrong there |
| 00:38.20 | makkonen | bzo as well |
| 00:38.31 | Hoochster | there's the freaky deak! :) |
| 00:38.36 | makkonen | dzo and a lot of the vogue people. |
| 00:38.41 | Hoochster | cool |
| 00:39.15 | eval- | sdm_7500 is our radio driver i guess that all cdma data goes through for diamond and raphael |
| 00:39.22 | eval- | i haven't looked at it |
| 00:39.30 | Hoochster | trying with data off and just wifi on |
| 00:39.42 | eval- | Hoochster: i had no probs with just wifi... |
| 00:39.42 | Hoochster | well phone just rebooted ol |
| 00:39.44 | Hoochster | lol |
| 00:39.51 | Hoochster | so ONLY have issues with 3g then |
| 00:40.00 | eval- | Hoochster: did you compile your own tiwlan? |
| 00:40.05 | Hoochster | negative |
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| 00:40.31 | eval- | ? where are you getting your wlan.ko |
| 00:40.40 | makkonen | I should get on fixing the build instructions |
| 00:40.48 | Hoochster | heh |
| 00:40.49 | eval- | haha i was about to say |
| 00:41.11 | Hoochster | I only built as per the existing instructions after patching tssc_manager.c heh |
| 00:41.14 | Hoochster | but had wifi |
| 00:41.17 | Hoochster | with that kernel |
| 00:41.23 | eval- | makkonen will soon have a tiwlan FAQ for commenting out lines 111 & 113 of tnetw_stdio.c |
| 00:41.41 | Hoochster | what do those lines cause my reboot issue heh |
| 00:42.14 | makkonen | if you built a kernel and didn't build modules, you'll have that problem. didn't you just use the kernel that eval- uploaded? |
| 00:42.16 | Hoochster | I take it those comments haven't been committed yet? |
| 00:42.37 | eval- | Hoochster: so you compiled tiwlan once upon a time? |
| 00:42.38 | Hoochster | no I compiled my own via your build script, and all was working there, I am using autobuild kernel at moment with it's modules |
| 00:42.49 | Hoochster | was verifying dt wasn't affected in airplane mode |
| 00:42.53 | makkonen | ok |
| 00:42.53 | Hoochster | and was gonna test wifi |
| 00:43.06 | makkonen | if you built from my build script, it didn't have the fixes to tiwlan, so you'll get the crash on turning off wifi. |
| 00:43.09 | Hoochster | so the built kernel I did with your script worked fine |
| 00:43.13 | Hoochster | at least the one time I used it |
| 00:43.18 | Hoochster | which was about 30 mins ago |
| 00:43.22 | eval- | Hoochster: if you got git://android.git.kernel.org/platform/system/wlan/ti.git |
| 00:43.32 | eval- | Hoochster: it has an unfortunate erroneous commit from a long time ago |
| 00:43.34 | makkonen | (that crash is not 100% of the time, just often) |
| 00:43.36 | Hoochster | well I didn't manually turn on wifi when I built it turned it on, on boot |
| 00:43.41 | Hoochster | ok that explains |
| 00:43.43 | Hoochster | so |
| 00:43.49 | Hoochster | is there a reason it isn't committed? |
| 00:43.50 | eval- | yes if you try to turn it off you will crash |
| 00:44.17 | eval- | i don't know whose repo that is |
| 00:44.28 | makkonen | that's the official android repo. maintained by google. |
| 00:44.34 | eval- | it's actually this that needs to be rolled BACK |
| 00:44.35 | Hoochster | so ya makkonen just so I get it proper if you get a new build script I will grab it heh |
| 00:44.38 | eval- | http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/system/wlan/ti.git;a=commitdiff;h=849c |
| 00:44.38 | eval- | 6d4186a7fcd4d25bcff6cc2e6bc25f8c4696 |
| 00:44.39 | makkonen | we have no control over it, and they do what they do. |
| 00:44.51 | Hoochster | understood |
| 00:45.14 | eval- | the "(do not merge)" being the key word in his commit |
| 00:45.15 | eval- | woops |
| 00:45.37 | eval- | i dunno how MrPippy finds this stuff |
| 00:45.43 | Hoochster | heh |
| 00:46.34 | Hoochster | so |
| 00:46.54 | Hoochster | I just need to reverse that commit before building my own? or just comment out those 2 lines you referenced? |
| 00:47.52 | stinebd | bah |
| 00:47.58 | Hoochster | bah ha! |
| 00:48.03 | stinebd | almost got a nice tilt2 for like 220 on ebay |
| 00:48.07 | Hoochster | doh |
| 00:48.21 | stinebd | not sure what i would've used it for other than android |
| 00:48.25 | eval- | stinebd: haha we will be in competition soon |
| 00:48.26 | Hoochster | get a tp2 instead heh better looking kbd heh |
| 00:48.31 | eval- | i want a gsm phone for europe |
| 00:48.42 | eval- | i do not want to pay $500 for a nexus |
| 00:48.46 | Hoochster | get a sprint and unlock the radio if you want gsm |
| 00:48.50 | Hoochster | but you know that lol |
| 00:48.56 | eval- | only sprint? |
| 00:48.59 | stinebd | eval-: no competition from me, i was only after it because the bids were so low |
| 00:49.02 | Hoochster | sprint for usa gsm |
| 00:49.12 | Hoochster | well all give you usa gsm unlocked don't they? |
| 00:49.18 | eval- | i thought all the US CDMAs also had gsm radio |
| 00:49.39 | makkonen | sprint or verizon |
| 00:49.41 | Hoochster | eval-, they do, but Sprint for sure has the GSM Radio/SIM card locked for International only |
| 00:49.50 | makkonen | I don't know if other carriers have their own... |
| 00:49.55 | Hoochster | not sure on the Verizon, seemed like they did something diff |
| 00:49.57 | makkonen | anyway, yeah, rhod400 and rhod500 both have gsm radios |
| 00:50.05 | eval- | stinebd: hehe yes well i will be esnipe.com my way to a $200-250 phone hopefully, unless i wimp out and go for a $15-180 topaz. how much did it go for |
| 00:50.21 | stinebd | 255 i think |
| 00:50.23 | Hoochster | but eval- if you are using internationally you don't need to unlock the sim slot |
| 00:50.28 | makkonen | verizon's might be better... it doesn't block US GSM bands, I think. But needs to be unlocked. |
| 00:50.44 | eval- | Hoochster: i will be living in germany ... |
| 00:50.48 | stinebd | http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Unlocked-HTC-Tilt-2-Phone_W0QQitemZ220568165755QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item335ae31d7b#ht_500wt_1146 |
| 00:50.52 | stinebd | yeah, 255 |
| 00:50.53 | Hoochster | makkonen, once you unlock the sim card does it not open us up for sprint as well? |
| 00:51.01 | stinebd | plus shipping of course |
| 00:51.25 | eval- | yah |
| 00:51.29 | makkonen | I think there's a lower level thing done on the sprint one, so it doesn't even see US gsm carriers. unlocking might fix that, but it might require something else. |
| 00:51.31 | eval- | i am always nervous about 'no returns' |
| 00:51.37 | eval- | if they send DOA, will paypal save me? |
| 00:51.54 | makkonen | paypal will never do anything good for you |
| 00:52.03 | makkonen | you are not paypal's customer. the seller is. |
| 00:52.04 | eval- | nor ebay? |
| 00:52.10 | eval- | that makes sense |
| 00:52.25 | makkonen | I mean, in theory, paypal has buyer protection. but... I wouldn't trust it. |
| 00:53.09 | Hoochster | so what was the jist on the wifi stuff, do I need to reverse that commit or comment out a couple lines, or makkonen are you updating the script? |
| 00:53.17 | eval- | oh well. i have 6weeks to troll ebay, hopefully i find something |
| 00:53.26 | makkonen | I would pay paypal with an american express card, and then if you get something DOA, you've got another line of defense. |
| 00:53.29 | eval- | oh putting a patch in the script that's not a bad idea |
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| 00:54.02 | makkonen | hoochster: I'm just going to upload an updated version of the ti source. script won't change. and basically all I'm doing is reverting that commit. |
| 00:54.07 | eval- | maybe a separate grab_modules .sh |
| 00:54.22 | eval- | makkonen: ok that is much easier |
| 00:54.59 | eval- | so, rhobuntu zImage is vanilla or tweaked? |
| 00:55.19 | Hoochster | ok makkonen let me know when you get that up and I will test it |
| 00:55.21 | Hoochster | thanks |
| 00:56.46 | makkonen | hoochster: sounds good. |
| 00:58.29 | eval- | is topaz development on par with rhodium, specs similar |
| 00:58.49 | makkonen | essentially. |
| 00:59.07 | makkonen | oh. another argument in favor of rhod400/500... I don't think any others have a built in 3.5mm jack |
| 00:59.07 | eval- | and the at&t "pure" hasn't done anything too diff |
| 00:59.18 | Hoochster | true that |
| 00:59.26 | eval- | makkonen: that, is seriously annoying |
| 00:59.34 | Hoochster | I just can't stand the Tilt2's keyboard |
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| 00:59.37 | makkonen | which is... pretty much the biggest improvement over the raphael |
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| 00:59.46 | Hoochster | why have a hardware keyboard but have to use Function button to get numbers |
| 00:59.47 | Hoochster | gay |
| 00:59.48 | eval- | with my diamond i am constantly frustrated |
| 00:59.54 | eval- | but do you have sound on rhodium? |
| 01:00.00 | eval- | is it just speaker that's an issue |
| 01:00.02 | makkonen | not yet |
| 01:00.15 | makkonen | I'd probably put money on it being working by may, though. |
| 01:00.18 | Hoochster | according to the forums it should be any minute LMAO |
| 01:01.08 | eval- | okok you guys convinced me. :p plus the dual gsm/cdma is too cool for when i come back to visit family, full choice of prepaid |
| 01:01.17 | eval- | tho they're like an extra 75-100 on ebay =/ |
| 01:01.43 | Hoochster | dunno if there is an advantage 400 vs 500, Verizon used to gimp their phones but I think the 500 they didn't this time |
| 01:01.48 | makkonen | you could get one with a bad ESN |
| 01:02.06 | makkonen | 400/500 are nearly identical. it's a real step up for vzw |
| 01:02.17 | Hoochster | heh |
| 01:02.26 | NetRipper | ~leo-dmesg |
| 01:02.27 | apt | it has been said that leo-dmesg is pwf mywincedmesg 0x1fe00000 0x200000 |
| 01:02.33 | Hoochster | I am a Sprint lover personally, but it all matters where you live and such |
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| 01:02.59 | makkonen | yeah. I'm a long time sprint supporter. sero ftw |
| 01:03.04 | eval- | Hoochster: i have SERO. transferring contract to my sister-in-law, sniff, sniff |
| 01:03.14 | makkonen | hoochster: build instructions updated with link to the file. |
| 01:03.15 | eval- | doubt i will find as nice a plan in germany |
| 01:03.31 | Hoochster | every carrier has issues but out of all that I have tried I have been the most satisfied with Sprint |
| 01:03.40 | Hoochster | don't have Sero, but I am on family plan wouldn't pay off for me heh |
| 01:03.50 | makkonen | gonna update build.sh now, too... somehow accidentally removed the command to clear out the old modules.tar.gz |
| 01:03.59 | eval- | Hoochster: uh, i have reception issues. in my kitchen, bathroom, bedroom. and i live by NYC! |
| 01:04.02 | Hoochster | cool makkonen |
| 01:04.23 | Hoochster | heh eval- again matters where you live, Verizon might do better for ya |
| 01:04.26 | eval- | makkonen: bad ESN? |
| 01:04.35 | eval- | how do they go 'bad' ? |
| 01:04.53 | Hoochster | brb |
| 01:05.11 | eval- | oh. stolen |
| 01:05.59 | eval- | i suppose amex might be able to help me there |
| 01:06.05 | makkonen | stolen, lost -> insurance claimed -> found... |
| 01:06.29 | MoonShadow | What's an ESN? Some kind of unique hw identifier, like an IMEI? |
| 01:07.00 | makkonen | actually, I think esn is the old type, and now they use IMEIs |
| 01:07.10 | makkonen | er, no... they use something else for cdma. |
| 01:07.16 | makkonen | but, yes, same idea. |
| 01:07.32 | eval- | hohum but the point is the same, i will need time to check this, unlock, and deal with potential worst-case before i go |
| 01:07.38 | eval- | very very helpful heads up |
| 01:07.50 | MoonShadow | Ah, I get it. I've never bothered to research cdma, because I live in Australia :P |
| 01:08.26 | makkonen | eval-: I was saying you could seek out a bad esn (MEID... that's what they're called now) one, cuz it'll be cheaper, and the gsm side should still work fine. |
| 01:08.55 | Hoochster | eval-, as always, any buy on ebay make sure their rep is up, not always accurate mind you but at least better chance getting what you are after |
| 01:09.34 | eval- | makkonen: now we're talking =) though i don't particularly like the idea of buying stolen things, if it was insurance fraud i'm all for it ;) |
| 01:09.43 | eval- | i almost went to malvinas market in lima when i was in peru |
| 01:10.23 | MoonShadow | makkonen, eval-: I was under the impression that you can change IMEIs with just a little hacking, like a MAC address. Could the same be true for ESN/MEID? |
| 01:10.24 | eval- | tens of thousands of extremely uh, affordable phones. but i was told if you buy a phone there though you have to jump in a cab and GTFO ASAP or you 'new' phone will be for sale again really soon |
| 01:11.10 | eval- | MoonShadow: implying they just check a blacklist? there are no checks for collisions, two handsets claiming same? |
| 01:11.37 | makkonen | moonshadow: yes, though if you mention it in any of the forums, they'll call you the devil and turn their nose up |
| 01:12.21 | makkonen | no, you'd have to get another phone and clone its number onto your new illegitimate one. collisions would be a big problem, since it's how the phone registers on the network. |
| 01:13.10 | eval- | hum. if i ever give my two old phones to sprint to 'recycle' will they enter the imeis? |
| 01:13.18 | MoonShadow | You might be able to pick up a dirt-cheap 2nd-hand old cdma phone and steal its number |
| 01:13.22 | eval- | i have an old at&t gsm and another sprint phone |
| 01:13.31 | eval- | no i have a phone i dropped into the sea when i was on shrooms |
| 01:13.40 | eval- | i mean, i made it work agian but the lcd never quite recovere |
| 01:13.46 | MoonShadow | wow. |
| 01:13.47 | eval- | hence i got a diamond |
| 01:14.09 | MoonShadow | Therefore, shrooms -> new phone XD |
| 01:14.21 | eval- | this is also useful, i will try to get those #s out before i toss them |
| 01:14.29 | eval- | man, this channel rocks |
| 01:17.07 | MoonShadow | ...hm. I have a box full of old gsm phones. Knew I was saving them for something :P |
| 01:17.07 | eval- | ugh they are still expensive http://cgi.ebay.com/BRAND-NEW-IN-BOX-SPRINT-HTC-TOUCH-PRO-2-BAD-ESN_W0QQitemZ300405498804QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCell_Phones?hash=item45f19023b4#ht_2435wt_1158 |
| 01:17.29 | makkonen | uf |
| 01:17.41 | eval- | are the IMEI/ESN/MEID on the physical body somewhere? or will i need to find my chargers |
| 01:17.50 | eval- | thank god for htc using standard microusb |
| 01:18.39 | eval- | i guess the bulk of a keyboard is compensated by the fact i do not lose 50% of my screen to type |
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| 01:18.49 | makkonen | I just got 3 ext-usb -> 3.5mm adapters in the mail yesterday. $2.88 shipped from hong kong. amazing. |
| 01:18.51 | MoonShadow | You'll have to find chargers. For finding out IMEI, type in *#06# |
| 01:19.05 | MoonShadow | That should work on just about any phone that has an IMEI |
| 01:19.09 | maejrep | ESN is on the device, under the battery |
| 01:19.12 | makkonen | MEID/ESN is listed under the battery |
| 01:19.14 | maejrep | don't know about IMEI/MEID |
| 01:19.31 | Hoochster | I am bad about the recycle thing, I think I still have all my old cell phones, and as old as I am getting that is a lot of phones lol |
| 01:19.42 | maejrep | Hoochster: same ;x |
| 01:19.57 | Hoochster | they are part of my history lol |
| 01:20.11 | Hoochster | I can't part with them heh, I still have my old Commodore Vic20 and 64 as well lol |
| 01:20.17 | maejrep | I still have my old A900, Mogule, Touch, and Touch Pro, all from about the last 7 years on sprint |
| 01:20.32 | Hoochster | I go back much further than that lol |
| 01:20.58 | maejrep | I only had one cell phone before that :p and I probably have it somewhere too, but no idea where. |
| 01:21.07 | maejrep | didn't get my first cell phone till 2002 |
| 01:21.20 | MoonShadow | As a matter of interest, could someone with a cdma phone tell me what happens when you enter *#06# in the dialer? |
| 01:21.28 | maejrep | i'd say nothing |
| 01:21.31 | maejrep | but i'll check |
| 01:21.38 | jamenlang2 | what are you guys doing with old MEID/ESN's? |
| 01:21.49 | maejrep | no, nothing |
| 01:22.00 | MoonShadow | damn |
| 01:22.01 | maejrep | CDMA (sprint at least) uses ##____# codes |
| 01:22.03 | eval- | moonshadow: nada |
| 01:22.09 | Hoochster | I think I still have an old bag phone |
| 01:22.24 | MoonShadow | Hoochster: awesome |
| 01:22.28 | Hoochster | heh |
| 01:25.32 | noisyzen | Hoochster: I had a VIC20 in 1985. I was 8. lol. |
| 01:26.06 | makkonen | I've still got my original Danger Sidekick somewhere. but I sold my treo 600 and 650...and sprint replaced my apache with a vogue, which I gave to my father when I got a touch pro... I've done pretty well at keeping the phone buildup down. |
| 01:26.18 | Hoochster | was 13 in 85 heh. |
| 01:27.54 | MoonShadow | I was -7 |
| 01:28.15 | maejrep | I was 2 |
| 01:28.20 | Hoochster | heh I am so far the oldest heh! :) dunno if i wanna brag about that |
| 01:28.22 | Hoochster | lol |
| 01:28.44 | noisyzen | LOL i think i'm the only girl in here. |
| 01:28.49 | noisyzen | although at 33, not sure I'm still a 'girl' |
| 01:28.53 | Hoochster | heh 117 people surely not |
| 01:28.56 | noisyzen | but what the hell. i'm a girl. |
| 01:28.58 | maejrep | ah right, I had a treo 650 too, which I did end up giving to someone else |
| 01:29.07 | noisyzen | well the only girl that talks maybe? :) |
| 01:29.12 | Hoochster | brag about it heh, for a girl to be interested in the tech it is a plus as is |
| 01:29.22 | noisyzen | lol |
| 01:30.27 | eval- | haha i'm glad it's only age that stands in the way of you still being a 'girl' |
| 01:30.32 | makkonen | I think when the wave had about 125 subscribers (?) it looked like there was 1 or maybe 2 girls, so I wouldn't be surprised. |
| 01:30.51 | noisyzen | oh nice. |
| 01:31.10 | eval- | so there's this statistician i was checking out, amazed that he and his wife published so many books as a team, who thought statisticians would make such a good couple, hardcore |
| 01:31.24 | noisyzen | i wonder what their arguments were like. |
| 01:31.28 | eval- | then i found the old bell labs/lucent page with his/her photo |
| 01:31.52 | eval- | i guess a trip to the OR in thailand didn't stop the good statistics work |
| 01:32.23 | makkonen | heh |
| 01:32.37 | noisyzen | haha uh oh. |
| 01:33.16 | makkonen | I was having a discussion with my girlfriend last night... life must just be very difficult for transsexuals, all around. There's really no place where there isn't a significant stigma. |
| 01:33.38 | eval- | i went to thailand once and i was actually fooled by street vendors (shoes! food!) who weren't ladies |
| 01:33.44 | eval- | makkonen: no apparently in thailand it's harder to be gay |
| 01:33.47 | noisyzen | Yeah. That has to be rough. |
| 01:33.53 | eval- | telling your parents you want your balls chopped off goes better |
| 01:34.11 | eval- | but i guess they are amongst a few places where there is a long cultural tradition |
| 01:34.23 | eval- | noisyzen: i think it must be super, super hard =/ |
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| 01:34.51 | MoonShadow | We sure do get off topic :P |
| 01:35.04 | eval- | but i think white men have a harder time passing as women |
| 01:35.16 | eval- | MoonShadow: hehe just a little |
| 01:35.19 | Hoochster | heh |
| 01:35.34 | Hoochster | must be what eval-'s thesis is about lol |
| 01:35.44 | eval- | no, it's about dead rats =/ |
| 01:35.52 | MoonShadow | Ew |
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| 01:36.07 | eval- | well, they died painlessly |
| 01:36.12 | eval- | in the same of science? or something |
| 01:36.18 | eval- | speaking of which, wtf am i doing here |
| 01:36.45 | MoonShadow | In a general sense, or in a homework sense? |
| 01:37.14 | noisyzen | ok folks. i'm outta here. and just for the record, i think the latest rootfs.img fixed my gsm thing. |
| 01:37.24 | noisyzen | eval-: get to work on your thesis. now. :P |
| 01:38.30 | stinebd | i wonder if noisyzen meant the ril crash on sms send |
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| 01:42.07 | makkonen | stinebd: so your little xdandroid-vendor project would lead to being able to compile a working android system build from the aosp repo? In theory? |
| 01:42.34 | stinebd | makkonen: it's not really needed anymore. with the ril and sensors libs in rootfs we can just use a generic build |
| 01:42.50 | makkonen | ok |
| 01:43.23 | makkonen | I was thinking I'd like to have everything specific to our devices available for community tweaking. |
| 01:43.38 | stinebd | that's pretty much what rootfs is these days |
| 01:44.25 | makkonen | I guess the addition of the cdma apn maybe should go back in to the rootfs at some point, then. since that won't be out there in generic builds |
| 01:44.47 | makkonen | and I'm not sure the apns-conf.xml should be in the rootfs. |
| 01:45.28 | stinebd | apns-conf.xml isn't device specific |
| 01:45.44 | eval- | rootfs could use a little housekeeping |
| 01:45.57 | eval- | we have 4 copies of libhtcgeneric-ril.so ? |
| 01:46.07 | eval- | only one of which (/lib/eclair) doesn't crash me |
| 01:46.18 | eval- | (doesn't matter whether i use donut or eclair) |
| 01:47.46 | stinebd | have you used the eclair one with donut? |
| 01:47.55 | eval- | stinebd: it's the only one i can |
| 01:48.03 | stinebd | and it works? |
| 01:48.04 | eval- | stinebd: i presume the api/abi hasn't changed |
| 01:48.08 | stinebd | nice |
| 01:48.20 | eval- | yeah, it was nice to figure out why donut couldn't boot!! |
| 01:48.38 | eval- | also, that different rootfs look in /system/lib vs /lib is strange to me |
| 01:48.40 | stinebd | i didn't know they were abi compatible |
| 01:48.49 | eval- | sometimes we trust the squashfs, sometimes we trust rootfs? |
| 01:48.55 | stinebd | ? |
| 01:48.58 | eval- | stinebd: i didn't either |
| 01:49.05 | eval- | commits changing the init.donut.rc |
| 01:49.50 | eval- | stinebd: mrpippy said he thinks it's all dlsym/dlopen |
| 01:49.50 | stinebd | i've been away since wednesday so i haven't been able to keep up with commits |
| 01:50.05 | eval- | it shouldn't be too hard to check, i guess, whether the exported symbols are the same |
| 01:50.14 | eval- | i've never looked at generating a rootfs i don't know that build tree |
| 01:52.16 | stinebd | there's a generator script in scripts/ |
| 01:52.45 | stinebd | you can grab the blob from gitorious web, change the options as needed and it'll check out and build a copy |
| 01:53.06 | stinebd | or you can check out a local repo, make your changes, then pass the path to the repo as the repo url |
| 01:53.53 | makkonen | (but make sure you commit your changes before building, because when it clones the local repo to build, it doesn't clone uncommitted changes. Ask me how I know.) |
| 01:54.10 | stinebd | heh |
| 01:54.13 | Hoochster | heh |
| 01:54.26 | stinebd | git is fun :) |
| 01:54.43 | Hoochster | update that page yet makkonen or is that a todo for another day? heh |
| 01:55.14 | makkonen | git is magical and intuitive. just as soon as you get past the point where it's arcane and baffling. |
| 01:55.29 | makkonen | (I am past that point. some days. Most days, I'm not.) |
| 01:55.32 | stinebd | thankfully that doesn't take long |
| 01:56.03 | makkonen | hoochster: the wiki page? I updated it a while ago. |
| 01:56.13 | Hoochster | doh you didn't tell me heh |
| 01:56.38 | eval- | wow i had no idea lxde could look so non-ugly |
| 01:56.50 | eval- | makkonen; haha |
| 01:56.55 | Hoochster | so just grab those 2 modules, and nothing else changed? |
| 01:57.01 | makkonen | hoochster: I so mentioned it. |
| 01:57.07 | eval- | makkonen: definitely still arcane to me |
| 01:57.12 | Hoochster | I musta been sleeping lmao |
| 01:57.21 | makkonen | just one module link is changed. that's it. |
| 01:57.37 | Hoochster | just the ti one |
| 01:57.43 | makkonen | yup |
| 01:57.47 | Hoochster | just grab it and ideally all is fixed |
| 01:57.59 | Hoochster | or did you change anything in the script too |
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| 02:00.34 | eval- | to rhobuntu cmdline has msmts_calib in it, but i thought we moved to ts-calibration & tssc ? is that all done in initrd? |
| 02:07.08 | eval- | nope looks like rootfs |
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| 02:15.55 | eval- | hum. 120mb of locale & 50m of logs in ubuntu.img |
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| 02:17.32 | eval- | and a slew of .deb |
| 02:18.21 | Hoochster | again, this isn't sounding like thesis work |
| 02:24.18 | stinebd | could be thesis work |
| 02:24.35 | stinebd | if the thesis is about porting android to htc windows mobile devices |
| 02:24.44 | stinebd | or rather linux in general |
| 02:24.50 | eval- | aha they put it all in rc.local |
| 02:27.11 | eval- | uh where they load modules that don't exist |
| 02:27.24 | eval- | ohno my bad |
| 02:28.01 | eval- | this is all still wl1251 based |
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| 02:37.13 | AstainHellbring | randomblame |
| 02:37.14 | AstainHellbring | yo |
| 02:45.49 | eval- | maybe we should write a new initrd for rhobuntu that tweaks their /etc/rc.local and allows us to use our newer kernels and module fixes |
| 02:53.58 | mcdull | umm.... after comparing the init, the only script missing for partition support is to call the installer script. Any reason of not including it? |
| 02:57.37 | eval- | mcdull: ? you mean the rootfs? |
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| 03:02.10 | mcdull | eval-, yes |
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| 03:03.19 | mcdull | and, can anyone please explain this script to me? what's the purpose and how does it work? |
| 03:03.20 | mcdull | /bin/grep -o "rel_path=.*" /proc/cmdline | /bin/sed -e "s/.*rel_path=//g" -e "s/ .*//g" |
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| 03:04.12 | stinebd | checks for ril_path=<whatever> in the kernel command line, extracts <whatever> from the command line |
| 03:04.21 | stinebd | err |
| 03:04.22 | stinebd | rel_path |
| 03:05.07 | mcdull | oic, so it means the output would determined by the kernel command line? |
| 03:05.29 | stinebd | the kernel command line is always available in /proc/cmdline |
| 03:05.53 | stinebd | do you understand the regexp parts? |
| 03:06.09 | mcdull | no.. sorry |
| 03:06.46 | eval- | you're just pulling out the continuous block following rel_path= right |
| 03:06.55 | stinebd | right |
| 03:07.14 | eval- | this would give us so much power if integrated |
| 03:07.18 | stinebd | on the assumption that the argument to rel_path cannot contain spaces |
| 03:07.33 | eval- | i could play with different libhtcgeneric-ril.so from the command line |
| 03:07.43 | eval- | instead of mounting rootfs, copying on and off, etc |
| 03:08.05 | mcdull | ok.. things clear now. Thanks. |
| 03:08.09 | eval- | well i guess it doesnt save me that much for the time it would take |
| 03:08.13 | stinebd | rel, not ril |
| 03:08.21 | eval- | i know, but you just triggered the memory |
| 03:08.33 | eval- | of remounting rootfs four times until i discovered i had to use eclair ril with donut :p |
| 03:09.00 | eval- | well more than four really, i wasn't bright enough to figure it out that fast |
| 03:09.10 | stinebd | another thing you could do is edit init.eclair.rc or init.donut.rc (whichever you need to) and change the rild service to load from /sdcard/libhtcgeneric-ril.so (or wherever) |
| 03:09.24 | stinebd | then just copy ril to sdcard when you update/rebuild it |
| 03:09.33 | eval- | ../that/ would have been much smarter |
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| 03:10.47 | eval- | can you make a whole ghost tree to mount over the current /lib /etc and so forth? (but just with the individual files you tweak) |
| 03:11.39 | eval- | or would i need a script to loop over subdirs in /sdcard/ghostfix and mount --bind each individually ? |
| 03:12.01 | stinebd | could use find to do it |
| 03:12.07 | stinebd | find -type f -exec ... |
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| 03:16.37 | eval- | oh very nice! it'd be a one liner |
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| 03:21.14 | eval- | i could maintain a whole tree against the current sqsh & rootfs and know exactly what i've done |
| 03:21.35 | eval- | plus then i don't really need any custom sqsh to get what i want in /system and so forth |
| 03:30.10 | makkonen | I think that might be what they do on the vogue side |
| 03:30.29 | makkonen | they have androidupdate.tar files that you can just drop in, and they overwrite files in the base system. |
| 03:31.20 | makkonen | they don't have a rootfs image anymore. just initramfs, which never changes, and system images, which can then be customized with lightweight updates. |
| 03:31.50 | stinebd | ext2 based system? |
| 03:32.07 | makkonen | no, I think they use squashfs, too. |
| 03:32.25 | makkonen | which is why I assume there must be some parallel tree. I'm not exactly sure how it works. |
| 03:32.38 | stinebd | hmm |
| 03:32.52 | makkonen | it's low on my list of things to investigate. |
| 03:34.10 | eval- | ask myn |
| 03:34.15 | eval- | he's all about this 'nomorootfs' |
| 03:34.27 | eval- | i'm not really sure what freedom it provides, i think mostly to rom devs |
| 03:34.38 | eval- | and i like the idea that proper changes get pushed to rootfs for everyone to try |
| 03:35.29 | eval- | but a one-line add to /init in order to mount their custom tree on top would be fine, and expose the changes they make. plus then it'd be very easy to test what breaks things... you could have a cmdline="trustromtree=0" and grep it out |
| 03:37.27 | eval- | anyone know the the source of the first reboot is on new install? |
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| 03:48.03 | Hoochster | quiet evening |
| 03:48.32 | AstainHellbring | Hoochster I'm busy kicking my own ass with an lg expo rom dump |
| 03:48.41 | Hoochster | heh |
| 03:48.50 | AstainHellbring | fucking pain in the ass |
| 03:48.56 | AstainHellbring | that will teach me to buy lg |
| 03:49.01 | Hoochster | did you get you a perty pj for it heh |
| 03:49.15 | stinebd | lg is only good for two things: TVs and fridges with TVs in them |
| 03:49.26 | AstainHellbring | Hoochster nope no projector |
| 03:49.39 | Hoochster | heh |
| 03:49.58 | Hoochster | if it didn't need more dark lol would be a neat streaming tv to have heh |
| 03:50.05 | AstainHellbring | yah |
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| 03:50.37 | tmzt_ | flip phones |
| 03:55.35 | Hoochster | ok MrPippy is sure quiet tonight heh, taking Sunday off lol |
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| 04:08.20 | mcdull | what is the block size of the rootfs.img? |
| 04:17.27 | eval- | 1K? |
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| 04:23.27 | mcdull | ar... sorry.. I mean the total black size.. I got error in making the ext2 |
| 04:24.51 | mcdull | I increased it to some what like 20M solved it.. |
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| 04:29.33 | randomblame | hello |
| 04:29.44 | randomblame | I have to tie my son up |
| 04:29.52 | mcdull | for what? |
| 04:29.58 | randomblame | he unplugged my router |
| 04:30.15 | mcdull | ha.. he wants you to play with him? |
| 04:30.19 | mcdull | how old is he? |
| 04:30.25 | randomblame | no he wants to eat the power cord |
| 04:30.29 | randomblame | hes 7 months |
| 04:30.41 | mcdull | so you tie him with the cat5? |
| 04:31.02 | randomblame | yes, with the bad cords |
| 04:31.12 | randomblame | I don't want to tie him up with the good stuff |
| 04:31.21 | randomblame | he'd chew through it |
| 04:31.36 | mcdull | ha.. those cat5 are poison.. |
| 04:32.11 | randomblame | yessssss |
| 04:32.26 | randomblame | handhelds.org needs some help |
| 04:32.30 | randomblame | cvs wtf |
| 04:32.36 | randomblame | what is this 2002? |
| 04:33.27 | mcdull | what do you mean? |
| 04:34.25 | randomblame | their source is hosted on a cvs server |
| 04:34.27 | eval- | 165m 92.5 0 39.9 com.android.browser |
| 04:34.36 | eval- | oh hello web browser. nice of you to eat my phone |
| 04:35.30 | randomblame | is confuzzled |
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| 06:31.04 | eval- | 1033 |
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| 10:12.01 | Captnoord | hmmm |
| 10:12.15 | Captnoord | who knows if its possible to create a android app that hooks to a linux debug file? |
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| 10:17.11 | Captnoord | leviathan: you know its its possible for me to write a android app to read some native linux debug fs? |
| 10:17.37 | leviathan | uhm sure |
| 10:17.46 | leviathan | you can use standart io of java |
| 10:17.48 | Captnoord | you know a example? |
| 10:17.51 | leviathan | and open sys-nodes |
| 10:17.55 | leviathan | uhmn |
| 10:17.57 | leviathan | nope |
| 10:18.03 | Captnoord | hmm.... |
| 10:18.04 | Captnoord | crap |
| 10:18.16 | leviathan | I'm SHR developer concerning userspace :) |
| 10:18.21 | leviathan | not android |
| 10:18.26 | Captnoord | k |
| 10:18.40 | leviathan | but you can use a basic android gui example |
| 10:18.44 | Captnoord | nah I will be searching some more... |
| 10:18.50 | leviathan | and then fill the output with readings from sysnodes |
| 10:19.03 | leviathan | I can search an example for you, if you wish |
| 10:19.05 | leviathan | mom |
| 10:19.06 | Captnoord | i'm totaly not a java dev..... |
| 10:19.08 | Captnoord | please |
| 10:19.16 | Captnoord | and not a android dev what so ever |
| 10:20.20 | Captnoord | all I want is to display the discharge mA's in a app... |
| 10:20.27 | leviathan | Captnoord: http://www.datasprings.com/Resources/ArticlesInformation/AndroidSDKExampleApplicationSampleCode.aspx |
| 10:20.31 | leviathan | you can use this |
| 10:20.35 | leviathan | as example |
| 10:20.41 | Captnoord | thanks a lot |
| 10:20.49 | leviathan | you can then input text from reading the sysnode files |
| 10:20.52 | Captnoord | bookmarked |
| 10:20.53 | leviathan | with standart io |
| 10:22.09 | leviathan | Captnoord: http://www.java-tips.org/java-se-tips/java.io/how-to-read-file-in-java.html |
| 10:22.33 | Captnoord | thanks |
| 10:22.54 | leviathan | for example for File("/sys/power/state") |
| 10:22.59 | leviathan | :) |
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| 10:23.11 | leviathan | Captnoord: np |
| 10:23.26 | leviathan | ^^ |
| 10:23.52 | Captnoord | i'll take a picture of my setup.... its a very funny one.... |
| 10:23.58 | Captnoord | the battery outside the phone |
| 10:24.00 | Captnoord | booting... |
| 10:24.04 | Captnoord | and measuring the current |
| 10:24.05 | Captnoord | :P |
| 10:28.57 | Wout | huh, so connected with cables? |
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| 13:09.51 | bombenbach | may I ask, why is android-kernel compiled with mesh-networking disabled |
| 13:10.08 | bombenbach | in mac80211 |
| 13:10.40 | bombenbach | I guess that's why Ad-Hoc connections don't work in Ubuntu, |
| 13:10.45 | bombenbach | or am I wrong? |
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| 13:31.40 | swc|666 | because android sucks? |
| 13:31.42 | swc|666 | lol |
| 13:36.14 | Ondalf | that was most awesome comment for a while -.-;; |
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| 13:40.46 | swc|666 | Ondalf, yea i'm just a bit let down that i see more ref's to android than anything in here now |
| 13:44.09 | swc|666 | ha http://pastie.org/870261 |
| 13:44.11 | swc|666 | lol |
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| 14:06.56 | mickey|office | swc|666: there's still some people who rather want to see GNU/Linux running |
| 14:07.59 | mickey|office | but alas, we don't have enough kernel devs, we are mostly userland guys |
| 14:08.41 | swc|666 | mickey|office, yep unfortunately :/ |
| 14:09.38 | mickey|office | i've been begging and hoping to see some more agnostic kernel development in here |
| 14:09.47 | mickey|office | but alas, everyone does what he or she wants in FOSS :) |
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| 14:10.39 | mickey|office | last time i checked, the raph100 was in relatively good shape, minus suspend/resume and some RF things |
| 14:10.52 | mickey|office | (wifi, bluetooth, gps) |
| 14:11.06 | swc|666 | yea i've been too overjoyed with my n900 as of late to play with my raph |
| 14:11.22 | swc|666 | but i think i will again soon |
| 14:11.27 | mickey|office | would be cool |
| 14:11.49 | mickey|office | apart from the Palm Pre and the HTC Dream, I'd love to see the Raph being supported by FSO as well |
| 14:12.11 | mickey|office | right now the dream and the pre are more rewarding targets |
| 14:12.28 | mickey|office | as lots of things are already done there and in mainline compatible approaches |
| 14:12.36 | swc|666 | true |
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| 16:56.04 | eval- | hmm, how much to pay for a user TP2 |
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| 16:59.46 | diiishe | is planning to put his on ebay soon |
| 16:59.59 | eval- | diiishe: what provider? |
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| 17:00.02 | diiishe | just got a replacement. Sprint. |
| 17:00.09 | eval- | replacement? ie upgrade? |
| 17:00.13 | eval- | i'm bidding on a sprint now |
| 17:00.19 | eval- | it's at $130 |
| 17:00.23 | diiishe | nice. |
| 17:00.45 | eval- | what do you think you'll get for it? it works fine? |
| 17:01.03 | diiishe | it works 100% fine. Only problem with it is the corner plastic started to peel up |
| 17:01.13 | diiishe | and it gets caught on my jacket pocket when pulling it out |
| 17:02.02 | diiishe | so I reported it, paid the deductible and got a new one sent to me |
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| 17:02.22 | diiishe | I'm hoping to sell the old one to make back some lost money on this |
| 17:02.59 | diiishe | I'm to get something closer to $200 |
| 17:03.03 | diiishe | dunno yet |
| 17:03.04 | eval- | uh oh, auction is climbing |
| 17:03.12 | eval- | yea i think we'll see this hit $200 in the last 5min |
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| 17:03.23 | diiishe | is it in perfect condition? |
| 17:04.17 | makkonen | wait, they're going for ~$200 unsubsidized? can't I sell a touch pro 1 for like 170? |
| 17:04.41 | eval- | oh boooo esnipe won't allow you allow you to update offer in last five mins |
| 17:04.44 | Ondalf | tp1 as in raphael? |
| 17:04.47 | eval- | makkonen: these are used |
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| 17:05.38 | makkonen | yeah; so's the one I'd be selling. I have no problem with used. I get insurance/TEP |
| 17:06.03 | diiishe | last I checked, a brand new unsubbed TP2 on Sprint via ebay was over $300 |
| 17:06.33 | diiishe | I bought one for a friend overseas (who wanted the GSM part- apparently out there they wanted $600-800 for it!) |
| 17:06.41 | eval- | he'd have to put in the description if it was subbed right |
| 17:06.47 | diiishe | I think it was about $320 or $350, brand new in box |
| 17:06.59 | diiishe | wouldn't matter if it was |
| 17:07.09 | eval- | diiishe: yea im about to move to europe, would love to snag a TP2 for ~$150 before i go |
| 17:07.16 | diiishe | the person who bought it would be the one responsible for paying the subscription |
| 17:07.27 | eval- | diiishe: wait till i have like, pay checks before i venture into a nexus-style thing |
| 17:07.36 | diiishe | eval, LOL |
| 17:07.40 | diiishe | where are u moving to |
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| 17:07.56 | eval- | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280477592123#ht_500wt_1156 |
| 17:07.57 | eval- | hamburg |
| 17:07.59 | diiishe | well, does the corner plastic peeling thing bother u? |
| 17:08.02 | diiishe | Germany? |
| 17:08.05 | diiishe | interesting |
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| 17:08.25 | eval- | oh wow it just jumped from $150 to $200 |
| 17:08.28 | eval- | and still didn't meet reserve |
| 17:08.37 | diiishe | haha |
| 17:08.37 | eval- | ok, damn you ebay, setting my heart aflutter |
| 17:08.46 | eval- | $100 for a TP2 with like 20min |
| 17:08.51 | diiishe | understand that this phone is $300 with a contract |
| 17:08.57 | eval- | still? |
| 17:09.02 | diiishe | when it was released, Sprint wanted $350 |
| 17:09.07 | diiishe | now I think it dropped $50 |
| 17:09.09 | makkonen | yeah, I'd figure it'd go for 250 used. |
| 17:09.16 | MACKIEFROMWORK | i paid 379 for mine off ebay brand new in dec |
| 17:09.22 | MACKIEFROMWORK | sprint |
| 17:09.28 | diiishe | if you're a business account, I think they offer it for $200 through their channels |
| 17:09.29 | eval- | i might just cheap out and get a topaz then i guess |
| 17:09.33 | diiishe | but its still alot of money |
| 17:09.40 | diiishe | or, you can buy mine |
| 17:09.41 | diiishe | :) |
| 17:10.37 | diiishe | when r u moving |
| 17:11.10 | diiishe | Mackie, that sounds about right. That's when I bought one for my friend also. Think his was around $350 |
| 17:11.57 | MACKIEFROMWORK | plus i got it in one day overnight shipping |
| 17:12.01 | MACKIEFROMWORK | no problems whatsover |
| 17:12.05 | diiishe | nice |
| 17:12.52 | MACKIEFROMWORK | everything was sealed like i woulda got it from sprint, screen protector, everything was there |
| 17:13.06 | eval- | =) i will consider it.. watching about 20 on ebay, the 'completed listings' indicate only like 20/200 went less than $200 |
| 17:13.12 | eval- | diiishe: may 3rd |
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| 17:13.39 | eval- | diiishe: prolly gonna transfer-of-liability my SERO to bro's wife & gift him my phone sooner though and pick up a prepaid |
| 17:15.10 | eval- | wonder what the deal was with this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/SPRINT-HTC-TOUCH-PRO-WINDOWS-MOBILE-USED-2-MONTHS_W0QQitemZ380211822676QQcmdZViewItem |
| 17:16.22 | stinebd | not unlocked |
| 17:16.38 | makkonen | not a rhodium |
| 17:16.42 | stinebd | well that too |
| 17:16.58 | stinebd | but even unlocked raphs go for more than that usually |
| 17:17.31 | eval- | is unlocking such a big deal? we can't do it for free? |
| 17:17.48 | diiishe | yeah, but some people don't know how |
| 17:18.04 | diiishe | also, right now I'm going through unlocker hell with the rhodium |
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| 17:18.20 | makkonen | is there a free unlocking solution for the rhod? or cdma rhod? |
| 17:18.34 | makkonen | (never had gsm phones, don't really know the story) |
| 17:18.35 | MACKIEFROMWORK | heard about all that hell with the rhod , such garbage |
| 17:19.05 | diiishe | yeah, cmonex and olipro made good stuff, but the whole security and forced donation thing is a PITA |
| 17:19.38 | diiishe | now I got a replacement device, and I can't unlock it without donating again, unless I beg them and get them to let me go at it. They sometimes take weeks to respond. |
| 17:19.42 | diiishe | :/ |
| 17:19.42 | MACKIEFROMWORK | they didnt do that for the hspl for the treo pro i had |
| 17:19.59 | diiishe | no, or any phone that predates the Rhodium as far as I know |
| 17:20.11 | makkonen | hspl != unlock |
| 17:20.16 | droid4halloween | lol |
| 17:20.19 | diiishe | yes |
| 17:20.20 | diiishe | true |
| 17:20.38 | droid4halloween | I hope I never have to unlock my phone again |
| 17:20.43 | droid4halloween | or relock it |
| 17:21.04 | MACKIEFROMWORK | shouldnt really ever need to |
| 17:21.04 | ravishi | how can you tell if my rhod is unlocked. i bought mine off ebay and the guy said unlocked but then again i don't really trust him |
| 17:21.11 | diiishe | I'm referring to the hardSPL, although the same would be true of the gsm unlock |
| 17:21.24 | droid4halloween | well if I take it back to sprint I prob will |
| 17:21.33 | diiishe | droid, u don't really need to |
| 17:21.40 | droid4halloween | ok |
| 17:21.44 | diiishe | just put a stock rom on it |
| 17:21.50 | droid4halloween | prob wont need to take it back to sprint |
| 17:21.50 | diiishe | they don't normally check the bootloader |
| 17:22.05 | eval- | the gsm part will be unlocked right? i would only have to pay/donate (?? there is no free solution?) if i wanted cdma on an alternate carrier? |
| 17:22.26 | diiishe | I've never heard of anyone getting in trouble for that- the only thing I saw was people being told custom roms void the warranty. So flash a normal rom back on, and they don't know/care |
| 17:22.44 | droid4halloween | i actually got the leaked hspl a few hours before it was released and since i deleted it and dont know how to unlock otherwise |
| 17:22.49 | MACKIEFROMWORK | throwing it in the ocean works too lol |
| 17:22.52 | diiishe | eval, the GSM is unlocked on Sprint for all but US carriers |
| 17:22.53 | droid4halloween | i havent unlocked gsm |
| 17:23.02 | diiishe | they don't want you buying their subbed phone then using it on AT&T |
| 17:23.06 | stinebd | you could call the carrier to get an unlock code |
| 17:23.13 | diiishe | but they do allow you to travel with it, that was the point of the "world phone" |
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| 17:23.33 | stinebd | tell them you're going overseas and getting a prepaid plan for a couple weeks in some bizarre country |
| 17:23.38 | eval- | stinebd: that works? |
| 17:23.40 | diiishe | the unlocker only matters if you wanted to use US carriers, like Tmo or ATT |
| 17:23.44 | stinebd | usually |
| 17:23.49 | eval- | stinebd: some bizarre country with cdma? |
| 17:23.56 | droid4halloween | lol |
| 17:23.56 | diiishe | Stine, they don't lock other countries on this phone |
| 17:24.20 | diiishe | and CDMA can't be "locked" |
| 17:24.33 | diiishe | its up to the carrier to support it. They're not locked out |
| 17:24.38 | eval- | oh i see |
| 17:25.03 | diiishe | I can take this Sprint phone, and bring it to Cricket and they'll activate it just fine on CDMA |
| 17:25.16 | diiishe | but I can't bring a Cricket phone to Sprint |
| 17:25.20 | stinebd | i wasn't aware we were talking about sprint |
| 17:25.27 | eval- | so how's that work? verizon blacklists sprint phones or something? |
| 17:25.34 | makkonen | stinebd: cdma is TAKING OVER |
| 17:25.37 | eval- | diiishe: ok, that's annoying |
| 17:25.44 | diiishe | Eval- they have a list of their phones that they've sold |
| 17:25.55 | diiishe | if your phone isn't on the list, its not one of theirs and they won't activate it |
| 17:26.00 | eval- | gotcha |
| 17:26.08 | diiishe | Cricket, meanwhile, doesn't care |
| 17:26.11 | makkonen | verizon lets anything get activated, if you push. sprint only allows phones they've sold. |
| 17:26.12 | diiishe | they'll activate anything |
| 17:26.21 | makkonen | or so I hear |
| 17:26.33 | diiishe | makkonen, I've heard that, but have yet to see a success story |
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| 17:26.50 | diiishe | with the Tp1, the Verizon version was gimped, so people wanted the Sprint ones activated |
| 17:26.50 | eval- | that's funny, given that sprint is the one supposedly hemorrhaging customers |
| 17:26.54 | diiishe | everyone I know who tried failed |
| 17:26.58 | diiishe | so... :/ |
| 17:27.54 | diiishe | well, Verizon, Sprint and Alltel used to all work like that. They only supported their own phones. Verizon recently said they would be more lenient on it |
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| 17:27.58 | diiishe | but I haven't seen the proof |
| 17:28.04 | diiishe | its all talk, as far I'm concerned |
| 17:28.32 | diiishe | I mean, we're talking about a company who traditionally gimped phones so that you couldn't have features they didn't approve of |
| 17:28.59 | diiishe | That VZ would allow other ESNs seems out of character |
| 17:29.43 | droid4halloween | i would think sprint would want to except all cdma phones and just require a data plan or something since gsm can buy and gsm phone and just put their sim card in |
| 17:30.30 | droid4halloween | sprint doesnt want your money unless you buy their phone, retarded |
| 17:30.44 | diiishe | See, they can't afford to do that |
| 17:30.55 | diiishe | right now, Sprint is trying to market themselves as the cost-effective provider |
| 17:31.28 | droid4halloween | I am so afraid of teired data plans |
| 17:31.48 | droid4halloween | thats crap, hope I can stay on 3g |
| 17:31.50 | diiishe | Verizon and AT&T can technically afford to accept whatever phones they want because they charge more for the same services |
| 17:32.08 | diiishe | T-mobile, well T-mobile isn't doing very well either |
| 17:32.47 | diiishe | Sprint is trying to entice people with their phone lineup and exclusive services, and they need to keep their ecosystem closed for that to work |
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| 17:33.21 | diiishe | Like when the palmPRe came out, and they were forcing people onto the new "everything plans" even if you already had unlimited data for less money currently |
| 17:33.31 | droid4halloween | last year was a good lineup for sprint, nothing this year |
| 17:33.36 | diiishe | I know. |
| 17:33.42 | diiishe | Its sad. They'd better do something |
| 17:34.48 | eval- | hah yea it's funny that i have any emotional investment in their success as i bilk out gigs of data for $30/mo |
| 17:36.05 | diiishe | SERO for the win |
| 17:36.20 | droid4halloween | sero rocks but sprint is getting more money from me than they would have if I decided to go prepaid |
| 17:36.42 | diiishe | I just don't like it when the big companies boss around consumers. That's why I want Sprint to do well. VZ and AT&T are evil, as far as I'm concerned |
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| 17:36.46 | araknos | hi all |
| 17:36.54 | araknos | what is the state of xf86-video-msm |
| 17:36.59 | araknos | and where can i get it |
| 17:37.00 | araknos | pleas |
| 17:37.15 | droid4halloween | i have sero500 and havent talked 500 mins total since I started 2 years ago |
| 17:37.26 | eval- | araknos: what is rhobuntu using? |
| 17:38.28 | diiishe | Droid, but data- |
| 17:38.32 | araknos | fbdev |
| 17:38.35 | diiishe | what prepaid has unlimit data? |
| 17:38.53 | droid4halloween | none, thats the only reason i got sero |
| 17:39.42 | droid4halloween | not sayin im not happy but with prepaid I would only be spending about $100 year |
| 17:39.54 | droid4halloween | without data |
| 17:40.06 | diiishe | yeah but data plans alone usually cost at least 30 a month |
| 17:40.32 | diiishe | so you wouldn't be saving anything. Plans aren't always just about minutes |
| 17:40.51 | eval- | araknos: some mention on http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Dream but not much |
| 17:40.51 | Ondalf | gosh |
| 17:41.25 | Ondalf | diiishe: you got expensive dataplans! 9.90eur per month for 384kbit in Finland |
| 17:41.44 | diiishe | http://www.sprintrelaystore.com/data_only_plan.htm |
| 17:42.06 | eval- | diiishe: what's the deal with using voip on those, do they catch you? |
| 17:42.08 | diiishe | Ondalf, that's the whole plan tho |
| 17:42.14 | eval- | diiishe: have been playing with SIP a lot lately |
| 17:42.25 | diiishe | I've always done extensive SIP |
| 17:42.30 | diiishe | not as much lately as I used to |
| 17:42.32 | Ondalf | what's the idea of that plan? |
| 17:42.41 | eval- | Ondalf: you're deaf |
| 17:42.47 | diiishe | Ondalf- only data- no minutes. For people who can't use voice anyway |
| 17:42.50 | eval- | Ondalf: or, you use VOIP ;) |
| 17:42.54 | diiishe | right |
| 17:42.55 | diiishe | :) |
| 17:42.59 | droid4halloween | just sayin, sprint would prob get about $10 a month from me instead of $30 |
| 17:43.09 | diiishe | droid, again, how do you figure? |
| 17:43.09 | eval- | droid4halloween: but they wouldn't. b/c you want data |
| 17:43.23 | diiishe | if you're using just voice, maybe. But you're not |
| 17:43.25 | Ondalf | so thats anti-phone plan for datause only? |
| 17:43.37 | diiishe | basically, Ondalf, yeah |
| 17:43.38 | diiishe | :) |
| 17:43.44 | droid4halloween | well if i did prepaid i wouldnt use data |
| 17:43.44 | Ondalf | i still cannot see why its so damn expensive |
| 17:44.05 | makkonen | I used 170mb of data and 65 anytime minutes last month. they've gotta be making money off me at $30/mo |
| 17:44.07 | eval- | droid4halloween: you would own a fancy htc to use wifi? |
| 17:44.21 | makkonen | ondalf: less competition and more landmass. it's why everything like that is more expensive here. |
| 17:44.23 | eval- | makkonen: i think we'd be surprised by the overhead |
| 17:44.33 | Ondalf | makkonen: oic... that explains a lot |
| 17:44.46 | Ondalf | its like our internet connections. no competitors here in lapland :/ |
| 17:45.12 | eval- | Ondalf: that $14 data of yours is on TOP of a base plan right |
| 17:45.30 | Ondalf | umm, top? |
| 17:45.44 | eval- | Ondalf: like, you pay something for phone service, then another 10E for data |
| 17:46.20 | Ondalf | yep. 1.99eur for phone service i guess... i'll check from bills. sec |
| 17:46.23 | eval- | Ondalf: also, do you know if the european gsm providers catch VOIP users? |
| 17:46.42 | eval- | Ondalf: 2E but no included minutes.. just a flat per-minute call? |
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| 17:46.58 | ali1234 | three.co.uk gives you unlimited skype to skype calls which doesn't even affect your internet allowance |
| 17:46.59 | eval- | i guess the weirdness in europe is also that people have to pay 2-4x extra to call a mobile |
| 17:47.04 | ali1234 | so no, they don't |
| 17:47.16 | Ondalf | lol |
| 17:47.27 | diiishe | nice. |
| 17:47.29 | ali1234 | also we don't have to pay to receive marketing calls, which is nice |
| 17:47.38 | eval- | marketing calls?? |
| 17:47.46 | parmaster | is it all pay to receive there? |
| 17:47.55 | eval- | we have a cell blocklist, i've never gotten a marketing call |
| 17:47.59 | eval- | parmaster: where is there |
| 17:48.02 | ali1234 | we don't have to pay to receive any kind of call |
| 17:48.04 | parmaster | europe |
| 17:48.21 | Ondalf | hmm, 370mb data at Jan |
| 17:48.23 | eval- | oh wait so if someone calls YOU you can talk on your cell as long as you want? |
| 17:48.23 | parmaster | in usa on sprint plan i have free incoming |
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| 17:48.33 | ali1234 | yeah of course |
| 17:48.34 | parmaster | unlimited |
| 17:48.43 | eval- | parmaster: that is rare. not with my SERO |
| 17:48.46 | parmaster | plus also a data plan |
| 17:48.55 | ali1234 | there is no such thing as paying for incoming calls in the UK, never has been afaik |
| 17:49.00 | parmaster | unlimited (truly unlimited) |
| 17:49.13 | eval- | ali1234: well we just get monthly minute quotas, incoming or outgoing is irrelevant |
| 17:49.24 | parmaster | let me put it this way. i'm never ever changing myplan |
| 17:49.24 | eval- | ali1234: but if our cell # is local for someone in the US they don't pay to make the call |
| 17:49.40 | parmaster | i could only possibly change to a worse plan.. (ever) |
| 17:49.56 | parmaster | plus i get 20% employee discount |
| 17:50.09 | Ondalf | answering phone doesn't cost. i got 250min plan for 13.90e and 100sms for 1.99e and internet for 9.89e |
| 17:50.22 | parmaster | i'm just regular 500 peak time minutes. |
| 17:50.38 | parmaster | unlimited night and weekend |
| 17:50.39 | Ondalf | so its total 25.78eur per month for almost unlimited usage of phone atleast for me, who enjoys usage of SSH and MSN Live Messenger |
| 17:50.42 | parmaster | unlimited data |
| 17:50.47 | eval- | parmaster: so how'd you get free incoming? |
| 17:50.48 | parmaster | unlimited free incoming |
| 17:50.49 | Ondalf | ah, and 1e sundays |
| 17:51.55 | parmaster | when i signed up it was a plan |
| 17:51.55 | ali1234 | cheapest UK contract is £10/month and that gets you 1GB of 3G data and then unlimited 2G data |
| 17:51.56 | droid4halloween6 | will they get rid of 3g when 4g comes out? |
| 17:51.56 | eval- | Ondalf: that is pretty nice, ~$35/mo |
| 17:51.56 | eval- | Ondalf: are your internet plans secretly capped? in germany it seems they tier 100,500,3000mb |
| 17:52.01 | eval- | even 'unlimited' is not for real |
| 17:52.12 | Ondalf | eval-: i've thought of dropping those call packets off for minute based bills since i don't use 250mins per month. last month like 30 mins |
| 17:52.13 | parmaster | mine can'tbe |
| 17:52.27 | parmaster | there was no fine print for 5gb when i signed up |
| 17:52.27 | Ondalf | Siirretty data yhteensä 481,543 Mt |
| 17:52.32 | Ondalf | October 481Mb |
| 17:52.46 | parmaster | i have the Sprint Free Incoming 500 plan |
| 17:53.13 | Ondalf | 19.7.2009-16.8.2009 Siirretty data yhteensä 743,171 Mt |
| 17:53.19 | Ondalf | 743mb |
| 17:53.27 | parmaster | wait so who's got the SERO? |
| 17:53.38 | Ondalf | so i dunno, if there's any limit other than 384kbit |
| 17:53.46 | droid4halloween6 | sero = me |
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| 17:53.57 | parmaster | how many minutes do you get.? |
| 17:54.01 | droid4halloween6 | 500 |
| 17:54.04 | eval- | that's impressive, i never go above 400mb |
| 17:54.10 | parmaster | do you get unlimited anything? |
| 17:54.20 | droid4halloween6 | i have data & text |
| 17:54.27 | parmaster | ah ok |
| 17:54.28 | eval- | yeah my base SERO rate is $25/mo |
| 17:54.31 | Ondalf | we got plan for totally unlimited too, but its like 50eur per month |
| 17:54.35 | droid4halloween6 | well 5gig "unlimited" data |
| 17:54.49 | Ondalf | it counts also to sms and mms and calls |
| 17:54.50 | eval- | unlimited text & data, nights @7pm, 500min |
| 17:54.51 | parmaster | yeah, mine i've gone over 5 gig before.. and no one said anything |
| 17:55.00 | parmaster | 7 gig one monthi think |
| 17:55.18 | parmaster | but my contract didn't stipulate the 5gig cap |
| 17:55.20 | eval- | Ondalf: totally unlimited... so there probably is some limit, but >1gb |
| 17:55.20 | parmaster | so... |
| 17:55.24 | eval- | Ondalf: cool |
| 17:55.27 | droid4halloween6 | same here eval, $27/mo |
| 17:55.36 | parmaster | i pay $62 a month |
| 17:55.44 | parmaster | (with my discount) |
| 17:55.51 | eval- | after taxes i'm at $30.02 |
| 17:56.07 | eval- | but i never use up my 500min so i think free incoming would be a waste on me |
| 17:56.09 | Ondalf | hahahahahaha |
| 17:56.12 | Ondalf | now i found it |
| 17:56.36 | parmaster | ah ok.. well for me honestly its the number everyone has for me |
| 17:56.38 | Ondalf | 12.10.2008-16.11.2008 Tiedonsiirto yhteensä 1590,009 Mt atleast i lol'd |
| 17:56.41 | parmaster | and its the one i give out |
| 17:56.42 | Ondalf | over one gb |
| 17:56.43 | droid4halloween6 | I have 2 sero plans actually, $30/mo + fees/taxes minus $6/mo |
| 17:56.50 | parmaster | so i'm never worried how many calls i get |
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| 17:57.06 | eval- | Ondalf: daymn what are you doing with your phone |
| 17:57.19 | droid4halloween6 | so I pay sixy something total |
| 17:57.20 | parmaster | for outgoing i use skype i loaded on it |
| 17:57.26 | eval- | Ondalf: tether? |
| 17:57.28 | parmaster | call hong kong for freee :) |
| 17:57.29 | parmaster | lol |
| 17:57.39 | parmaster | plus on data i teather |
| 17:57.44 | Ondalf | eval-: i learned that tether word after i installed Android to my Kaiser |
| 17:57.47 | droid4halloween6 | my call history is empty |
| 17:57.58 | Ondalf | i've used it only for "Internet Sharing", not "Tether" ;) |
| 17:58.05 | droid4halloween6 | I wish I could sell my unused mins |
| 17:58.36 | parmaster | using skype i honestly could have all unused minutes every month |
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| 17:58.49 | parmaster | but well i like to use a circuit once in a while :) |
| 17:59.16 | parmaster | i'm never ever getting rid of this plan |
| 17:59.21 | Ondalf | hmm... and actually that was time when 3G was broken so that was moved from internet thru EDGE :/ |
| 18:00.04 | droid4halloween | sprint might force sero out eventually |
| 18:00.28 | eval- | droid4halloween: they already make it difficult for us |
| 18:00.46 | droid4halloween | thats why im here, trying to get android lol |
| 18:00.51 | parmaster | i don't think they can force me onto a different plan right? |
| 18:01.01 | parmaster | its a regular customer account |
| 18:01.05 | eval- | droid4halloween: i was only able to get my htc diamond by escalating support after support issue, when i got my samsung instinct and they couldn't activate it b/c i was on SERO |
| 18:01.10 | eval- | thank GOD for that |
| 18:01.21 | eval- | wtf was i think. so young and naive |
| 18:01.32 | parmaster | cuz honestly everything's grandfathered in on this account so no way i would ever want to change from it.. i would only change to something wors |
| 18:01.39 | parmaster | e |
| 18:02.00 | eval- | parmaster: they can just block you from any deals or discounts on phones, new services, etc |
| 18:02.05 | parmaster | so you guys have swapped phones and stayed on your existing plans right? |
| 18:02.08 | eval- | parmaster: but no i think you're safe if you stick with wha tyou have |
| 18:02.31 | parmaster | i've already swapped from an apache to a vogue on this account... keeping the same plan |
| 18:02.43 | eval- | araknos: any reason video-msm > fb? |
| 18:02.46 | parmaster | just gave them the esn to switch my equipment |
| 18:03.03 | droid4halloween | parmaster, they could prob force us out by not allowing us to upgrade without changing plans |
| 18:03.17 | parmaster | ah i see ... thats on SERO right? |
| 18:03.26 | makkonen | parmaster: yeah. sero is blocked from all android and webos phones, and the instinct. dont' know about your plan. |
| 18:03.34 | parmaster | i have a regular subscriber account |
| 18:03.56 | droid4halloween | who knows whatll happen when wp7 and 4g come around |
| 18:03.58 | parmaster | mine is a normal plan with REAL unlimited data, free incoming calls unlimited. |
| 18:04.03 | chamonix | hey guys |
| 18:04.20 | parmaster | and i already swapped an apache for a vogue on it last year |
| 18:04.21 | eval- | any reason to expect wp7 not to flop and suck the hairy goat balls? |
| 18:04.29 | eval- | erm, wm7 |
| 18:04.30 | makkonen | hello chamonix |
| 18:04.38 | parmaster | i should never change from the vogue probably |
| 18:04.41 | Ondalf | 4g seemed a bit slow what they tested at Sweden |
| 18:04.43 | MACKIEFROMWORK | nope, sure it will |
| 18:04.46 | parmaster | i'd like to get a rhod400 though honestly |
| 18:05.07 | xawen | eval: it sucked the moment they said no multitasking |
| 18:05.14 | droid4halloween | wm7 mite be ok if you can really game on it |
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| 18:05.28 | chamonix | heya makkonen |
| 18:05.29 | araknos | eval-: video-msm driver for xorg might be better |
| 18:05.48 | AstainHellbring | parmaster how come a rhod400? |
| 18:05.49 | araknos | i have seen something in chromium tree |
| 18:05.53 | eval- | xawen: what? doesn't wm6.5 have multitasking? |
| 18:06.01 | eval- | araknos: i was about to ask if this was chromium motivated :) |
| 18:06.20 | Ondalf | currently our networks here in finland have up to 21mbit 3G |
| 18:06.22 | parmaster | well that way i could swap the esn on my plan |
| 18:06.23 | stinebd | windows mobile has historically had multitasking. it's been removed for winphone7 |
| 18:06.26 | eval- | xawen: i saw bada made that decision too. disappointing. much less interested to explore bada now |
| 18:06.41 | parmaster | and i'd have the rhod400 with that plan |
| 18:06.46 | eval- | stinebd: except for a class of sysapps, like bada is doing? |
| 18:06.51 | xawen | eval: yeah, but they're saying WM7 will have iPhone style "notification" multitasking. They have to be doing it in the shell though since it's still got a CE base. |
| 18:06.57 | parmaster | also be able to roam on a prepaid sim in asia when i'm there |
| 18:06.59 | eval- | stinebd: ie, can people still background their SIP apps, etc |
| 18:07.01 | xawen | so I'm sure it can be hacked in |
| 18:07.22 | Ondalf | and you can get usb-stick with sim-card as cheap as 13.99eur per month with unlimited dataplan with networks fastest technique they got which is usually either 3.6mbit, 5mbit or 7.2mbit |
| 18:07.23 | droid4halloween | will there be hspl for wm7? |
| 18:07.25 | stinebd | eval-: no concrete information about it, other than apps can't multitask |
| 18:07.58 | Ondalf | and atleast i found one flaw at those plans |
| 18:08.22 | parmaster | i'm happy with the vogue's ability |
| 18:08.24 | eval- | these multitasking design decisions baffle me, b/c no one can seriously expect phone hardware to get slower right? is such a large % of mobile sales still puny phones w/ low ram, etc |
| 18:08.43 | parmaster | so, i'm stil waiting on rhod's progress before i buy one though. vogue is awesome at the moment |
| 18:08.59 | droid4halloween | I tried to get a vogue but couldnt find one so got a diamond |
| 18:09.11 | eval- | araknos: in what way? |
| 18:09.20 | xawen | eval-: they keep using battery as the excuse. Kinda hard to say it'll be slow when it's got a 1ghz proc behind it |
| 18:09.21 | stinebd | i think it's more a decision to make the OS have more full control over the user experience |
| 18:09.24 | eval- | araknos: are you thinking of making chromium msm? |
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| 18:09.34 | araknos | for rhobuntu |
| 18:09.56 | araknos | eval-: i might try to |
| 18:10.10 | droid4halloween | Id think GOOGLE would make it easy to put android on any wm device |
| 18:10.27 | eval- | droid4halloween: ? do they sell android for a profit? |
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| 18:10.41 | droid4halloween | do they? Didnt think so |
| 18:11.01 | droid4halloween | thought it was free and they only made money from ads and marketplace |
| 18:11.05 | eval- | droid4halloween: right. so why would they step between htc or whomever and MS on their deals |
| 18:11.08 | ShdwDrake | No, google provides android free of charge I believe |
| 18:11.27 | eval- | yes yes that was rhetorical |
| 18:11.31 | ShdwDrake | I'm a bit late :) |
| 18:11.57 | Hoochster | Afternoon! |
| 18:12.01 | chamonix | eval-: have u had any time to graph ur sleep profile? |
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| 18:12.09 | chamonix | good evening Hoochster |
| 18:12.17 | droid4halloween | why wouldnt they, they could only make money from it |
| 18:12.35 | eval- | chamonix: my personal sleep? sure, <5hrs per night, pretty constant :p |
| 18:12.43 | Hoochster | guess I should say Morning.. afternoon and evening with our assortment heh! |
| 18:12.44 | chamonix | lol |
| 18:12.45 | chamonix | :P |
| 18:12.59 | stinebd | good morrow abbott! |
| 18:13.19 | Hoochster | well we know that lack of sleep has nothing to do with staying up to work on a thesis |
| 18:13.54 | ShdwDrake | droid: it's against google's morales, I guess. They know they don't need to make money from it. By making it free they can get more copies of it out there, and make more money from ads |
| 18:14.06 | eval- | chamonix: no, my dmesg overflowed with errors from mdp.c =( |
| 18:14.27 | chamonix | eval-: I have some interesting findings I need to reproduce but by battery life is down from 20 hours to 12 hours by just activating google mail sync and google latitude.... and the interesting part is that there is no big difference in the sleep profile, means my phone sleeps regularily 30 minutes |
| 18:14.53 | droid4halloween | yea I guess eventhough they'd steal marketshare they would also pissoff M$ |
| 18:15.00 | eval- | in general i have a lot of mdp/mdp_ppp and mddi errors and traces in my dmesg |
| 18:15.05 | droid4halloween | I didnt know they where such good friends |
| 18:15.08 | eval- | chamonix: so that 20hrs was with sync off! |
| 18:15.15 | parmaster | i paid $90 for my vogue on ebay some guy was selling his daughters phone :) |
| 18:15.32 | chamonix | eval-: only google mail sync off, contacts and cal were on |
| 18:15.56 | parmaster | i need to update my android on it though, i think i'm still running 1.5 |
| 18:16.42 | parmaster | its great, its a tiny phone that really packs a punch ;) |
| 18:17.10 | eval- | chamonix: any reason your parser can't just cat /proc/kmsg and store in a file as they happen |
| 18:18.17 | chamonix | eval-: the only two reason I can come up with would be: a) there is no perl parser pre-installed and b) the reading would disturb the measurement if started on a timer base |
| 18:18.18 | eval- | chamonix: i mean, it's not a big deal for me to sleep 3600; dmesg > /sdcard/dmesg-timestamp; in a loop, just curious if a pipe on kmsg would affect sleep problems |
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| 18:18.45 | eval- | chamonix: a timer base? |
| 18:18.58 | droid4halloween | anybody planning to get TP3? |
| 18:19.05 | MACKIEFROMWORK | no |
| 18:19.22 | chamonix | eval-: well, like every 5 minutes..... if the phone is sleeping 30 minutes it would be woken up too often |
| 18:20.09 | araknos | eval-: what is going on about dsp on htc linux |
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| 18:20.22 | droid4halloween | I mite get it for my gf if it doesnt cost $200+ |
| 18:20.33 | chamonix | eval-: what I do is dmesg > /sdcard_`date +blabla` by hand, using ApplyEffects to run the shell command whenever it's convenient for me |
| 18:21.18 | chamonix | s/ApplyEffects/ApplySettings |
| 18:23.01 | IceBone | Rofl, just got a call and the phone froze. |
| 18:23.45 | IceBone | Ringtone played, screen turned on, vibrating was on continuously, no button responded. |
| 18:25.49 | eval- | chamonix: i'm wondering if cat /proc/kmsg | parse wouldn't just do its duty normally when awoken |
| 18:27.02 | eval- | araknos: dsp? as i understand they have asdp issues (external speaker) with rhod but diam/raph are ok... i really know very little about this project, started playing for real before the weekend |
| 18:28.19 | araknos | eval-: i am trying to build ubuntu kernels from linux-2.6.27-linux-msm |
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| 18:28.43 | araknos | if i am successfull we might better try kernels out |
| 18:28.55 | eval- | araknos: 'ubuntu' kernels? applying ubuntu-specific kernel patches against linux-msm? |
| 18:29.03 | araknos | no |
| 18:29.06 | araknos | .debs |
| 18:29.10 | araknos | just .debs |
| 18:29.12 | eval- | araknos: i booted rhobuntu with a modified linux-msm kernel of mine yesterday |
| 18:29.26 | araknos | what then |
| 18:29.28 | eval- | araknos: but i wasn't able to get touchscreen working right |
| 18:29.47 | araknos | did you get wifi working out of the box |
| 18:29.49 | eval- | araknos: some tssc vs. msmts issue? i put the right calibration loop in rc.local |
| 18:30.08 | eval- | araknos: that was my motivation, since i came too recently to know anything about wl### |
| 18:30.21 | eval- | araknos: and i know the last ti wlan module i built works... |
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| 18:30.36 | araknos | works, means wifi autodetection |
| 18:30.39 | araknos | iwlist wlan0 scan |
| 18:30.49 | araknos | iwconfig wlan0 essid key s |
| 18:30.51 | eval- | araknos: i'd have to put in some usbnet / adbd style stuff in to actually debug that |
| 18:30.56 | araknos | etc etc |
| 18:31.00 | eval- | araknos: since i have no keyboard or working touchpad :p |
| 18:31.17 | araknos | well how did you try wifi |
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| 18:31.22 | eval- | i didn't! |
| 18:31.25 | eval- | that's what i'm saying |
| 18:31.32 | araknos | but module did build |
| 18:31.54 | araknos | ok can you hint me to your branch |
| 18:31.56 | eval- | huh? you mean did it insmod ok? do i have an ifconfig? |
| 18:32.13 | eval- | my branch is nothing special, i'm just saying rhobuntu boots with straight linux-msm |
| 18:32.32 | eval- | all i did was rip out the tssc loop out of init and throw it in /etc/rc.local to try and get touchscreen |
| 18:32.40 | araknos | i mean did you build the module against kernel?? |
| 18:32.54 | eval- | my linux-msm patch is just some ugly hack specific to my cdma touchscreen issues. |
| 18:33.01 | eval- | yes, wlan.ko from ti wlan |
| 18:33.01 | araknos | ok.. |
| 18:33.22 | araknos | ok, tought you had some juicy thing to try |
| 18:33.40 | eval- | araknos: no. but i don't think it should be much work to boot |
| 18:33.52 | eval- | araknos: what is the rhobuntu zImage they package built from? i didn't even try it |
| 18:34.07 | parmaster | anyway the free incoming plan i just view as having protection from anyone force calling my phone or other dipshit stuff like that |
| 18:34.17 | parmaster | hmmm. time to go get f00d |
| 18:34.21 | araknos | eval-: ask phh |
| 18:34.34 | eval- | araknos: i saw msmts so i figured it must be old? |
| 18:34.55 | araknos | figured that too |
| 18:35.21 | araknos | rc.local loads at boot |
| 18:35.38 | araknos | sorry* |
| 18:35.46 | eval- | araknos: yea? so i have no idea why my calibration failed |
| 18:36.30 | eval- | when i have time i will try to get usbnet & adbd in rhobuntu and debug it |
| 18:36.34 | eval- | but that will not be soon |
| 18:36.56 | eval- | i think rhobuntu could be improved, besides shrinking the image 200-500mb, like you suggest, getting a newer kernel |
| 18:37.05 | eval- | i know nothing of the fb vs video-msm improvement |
| 18:37.21 | eval- | does wifi work for it out of the box on rhod? |
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| 18:41.10 | araknos | eval-: no needs to be insmodded |
| 18:41.22 | araknos | eval-: we kinda hacked wicd to make it work |
| 18:41.30 | araknos | still no network autodetect |
| 18:41.51 | araknos | iwlist wlan0 wont do |
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| 18:42.09 | araknos | scan* |
| 18:42.49 | eval- | is usbnet up? can i ssh in to it on boot? if so i can tell you whether the ti wlan module does better in amin |
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| 18:44.31 | araknos | eval-: you dont have a proper screen? |
| 18:44.54 | araknos | i mean usbnet is up, you can ssh in |
| 18:44.56 | eval- | araknos: i don't have a proper touch, my calibration is all funky |
| 18:45.22 | araknos | we might revert to xorg for that |
| 18:45.31 | eval- | AFAIK the new kernel uses tssc but something must not be right about calibration? |
| 18:45.36 | araknos | we are using a light fb x server |
| 18:45.52 | eval- | so i don't think a msmts on cmdline will save me but i honestly didn't play very much with it |
| 18:45.58 | makkonen | if you're not using the android rootfs, it won't set the calibration for tssc manager |
| 18:46.10 | makkonen | you can do it manually |
| 18:46.11 | eval- | makkonen: that's why i put those loops into rc.local |
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| 18:47.35 | dcordes | hi |
| 18:48.24 | Markinus | hi |
| 18:50.02 | dcordes | Markinus, I get same black screen problem with your kernel. people on xda get same problem with my kernel |
| 18:51.11 | Markinus | dcordes: intresting. Did you replace you radio? |
| 18:51.50 | dcordes | I think it is something about http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=commit;h=7165675e5231d0bd1916b488eea91450080b5217 |
| 18:51.55 | dcordes | because before I didn't get it |
| 18:52.00 | dcordes | no didn't replace the radio |
| 18:52.55 | dcordes | I'll revert those workarounds manually see what happens |
| 18:53.08 | Markinus | dcordes: but why did it work on other devices, like my or NetRippers . . hmm |
| 18:55.00 | Markinus | dcordes: I would say try the other Radio. Then we know is this comming from or not . . |
| 18:55.49 | [1]Captnoord | phh: 3d is still broken somehow as it couldn't get a pointer while using texture mapping.... |
| 18:59.51 | dcordes | Markinus, ok. are you registered in the mobile-linux mailing list? |
| 18:59.53 | eval- | araknos: what is default ip on rhobuntu usbnet |
| 19:00.33 | Markinus | dcordes: no, I didn't know this |
| 19:00.39 | dcordes | eval-, check /etc/network/interfaces |
| 19:02.11 | eval- | erm, i don't have enough free space to extract ubuntu.img anywhere but my phone =( |
| 19:02.18 | dcordes | Markinus, http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mobile-linux-discuss |
| 19:02.21 | eval- | i guess i could reboot it any mount |
| 19:02.24 | eval- | maybe it's in xda-dev someplace |
| 19:02.43 | ali1234 | if it works line real ubuntu it will be doing dhcp |
| 19:02.50 | dcordes | eval-, then check it on the phone |
| 19:03.06 | eval- | dcordes: catch-22 :p |
| 19:03.28 | eval- | oh, what's another click on haret or two at this point. fine |
| 19:03.30 | dcordes | well there has to be some way. |
| 19:04.07 | Markinus | dcordes: done |
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| 19:05.54 | Markinus | dcordes: hmm :) we have to get the keys work, cannot enable the display after standby on linux . . . :) |
| 19:06.32 | dcordes | Markinus, i2c mapping is same as on nexus?= |
| 19:07.23 | chamonix | eval-: I just realized my last reading conditions were wrong... freaking gtalk was on.... |
| 19:07.36 | Markinus | dcordes: I didn't tried so right i22 till now |
| 19:07.41 | Markinus | dcordes: as first USB |
| 19:08.07 | Markinus | dcordes: it'S working but seems not with all initrds . . . I testing |
| 19:09.46 | eval- | chamonix: yea i am really thinking i want a resident auto-kill daemon, something like advanced task manager should spawn and destroy all but the apps i check off... this 'always on' process stack is cute and potentially good if it all works, but also really a pain |
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| 19:11.34 | chamonix | eval-: I added that to my todo list :) |
| 19:11.47 | dcordes | Markinus, it's affected by initrd ? |
| 19:12.40 | chamonix | ... I was thinking of womething like a blicklist but also a whitelist to have only what I want running, nothing else |
| 19:12.41 | Markinus | dcordes: This boots to fast and USB isn'T ready |
| 19:12.48 | chamonix | s/bli/bla |
| 19:12.59 | dcordes | Markinus, that makes sense |
| 19:13.01 | Markinus | dcordes: we need 1,2 seconds to boot, it isn'r realy long :) |
| 19:14.01 | Markinus | Markinus: If I use ubunto, then this make a fsck on sd, in this time is USB comming and I can see it in win |
| 19:14.22 | Markinus | *Ubuntu |
| 19:14.26 | stinebd | oh geez he's talking to himself now |
| 19:14.33 | NetRipper | dcordes, are you lukas? |
| 19:14.38 | dcordes | yes |
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| 19:14.39 | NetRipper | ok |
| 19:14.51 | NetRipper | did you try a kernel that one of us built? instead of building your own? |
| 19:15.25 | dcordes | :P if you are martijn |
| 19:15.27 | NetRipper | yes |
| 19:15.59 | dcordes | ^^ yes I booted a build from Markinus with his default.txt |
| 19:16.05 | dcordes | same problem |
| 19:16.07 | NetRipper | (i just wondered as i saw your mail :p) |
| 19:16.08 | NetRipper | ok |
| 19:16.53 | NetRipper | Markinus, maybe you could compare mdp config data? the stuff you used to get our panel.c working |
| 19:16.56 | NetRipper | see if there are differences? |
| 19:16.59 | eval- | uhm, i am not seeing that rhobuntu starts a usb0 interface at all |
| 19:17.14 | eval- | has someone here successfully telnet or ssh'd to their rhobuntu over usb? |
| 19:17.17 | NetRipper | dcordes, did you dump your wince dmesg already (from a cold boot)? |
| 19:17.29 | dcordes | yes yesterday I have the panel id 1 |
| 19:17.46 | dcordes | cr2 said he thinks we all got the same hw |
| 19:18.23 | dcordes | [D:DISP] g_CurrentPanelType=1 |
| 19:19.09 | Markinus | NetRipper: Hi, is all in wiki, I will compere it a second time |
| 19:19.44 | Markinus | NetRipper: it seems you'Re iniotrd is to fast :) The usb isn'i inited completly. . |
| 19:19.51 | NetRipper | Markinus, if you already checked tahts fine ;) |
| 19:19.54 | NetRipper | Markinus, ah hehe |
| 19:20.10 | NetRipper | i can add a sleep |
| 19:20.17 | NetRipper | 10 sec or so |
| 19:20.27 | dcordes | that's it |
| 19:20.35 | dcordes | Markinus, in cmdline add "rootwait=10" |
| 19:20.38 | Markinus | NetRipper: yes, I think this would be good, bevor mounting usb . . |
| 19:20.38 | NetRipper | ah |
| 19:20.46 | NetRipper | see dcordes :) |
| 19:20.50 | Markinus | ahh :) |
| 19:21.00 | NetRipper | thats a better way |
| 19:21.21 | NetRipper | dcordes, i dont have that line in my wince dmesg :x |
| 19:21.37 | dcordes | NetRipper, so you referred to something else? |
| 19:21.49 | NetRipper | oh |
| 19:21.49 | NetRipper | i do |
| 19:21.54 | NetRipper | also 1 |
| 19:22.04 | dcordes | NetRipper, I only have it in one where I dumped reeeaal fast after boot |
| 19:22.09 | dcordes | using dump command in a default.txt |
| 19:22.18 | Markinus | dcordes: this isn'T work here . . is ignoring this line . .. |
| 19:22.18 | Markinus | ahhh |
| 19:22.46 | NetRipper | dcordes, yes i even see the header of windows ce in console ;) |
| 19:23.05 | dcordes | which console? |
| 19:23.05 | NetRipper | A[A[A[A[A[A[A00:00:00.000 Windows CE Kernel for ARM (Thumb Enabled) Built on Oct 8 2009 at 20:35:04 |
| 19:23.08 | NetRipper | ramconsole |
| 19:23.09 | dcordes | ^^ |
| 19:23.21 | dcordes | as you know ramconsole hates my leo |
| 19:23.27 | NetRipper | yes thats weird too |
| 19:23.29 | NetRipper | ohhhh |
| 19:23.30 | NetRipper | but |
| 19:23.32 | NetRipper | it may be related |
| 19:23.39 | NetRipper | i put ramconsole at the end of memory |
| 19:23.42 | NetRipper | i also put MDP at the end somewhere |
| 19:23.44 | NetRipper | i think |
| 19:23.48 | NetRipper | framebuffer at leats |
| 19:24.01 | dcordes | Markinus, I'm sorry. "rootwait" is without parameter. I confused "rootdelay=n" n seconds with it |
| 19:24.14 | dcordes | Markinus, rootwait will wait until the drive is ready |
| 19:24.33 | Markinus | ok |
| 19:24.34 | NetRipper | so you need rootdelay=10 |
| 19:24.35 | dcordes | Markinus, e.g. if you boot from /dev/mmcblk0p1 it will wait until that device is present |
| 19:24.43 | NetRipper | dcordes, nice to know |
| 19:24.44 | NetRipper | :) |
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| 19:25.17 | NetRipper | dcordes, let me change the memory layout a bit |
| 19:25.54 | phh | [01:37:49] <noisyzen> eval-: I've gotten some sms messages okay without dropping, but after a phone call, it drops. <------ hum |
| 19:25.55 | dcordes | do not git pull. patient is undergoing surgery |
| 19:26.00 | phh | I have some clues I'll have to see. |
| 19:26.08 | phh | but please post a bug on the bugtracker |
| 19:26.13 | NetRipper | eh? kernel in git is broken? |
| 19:26.20 | dcordes | nevermind just kidding |
| 19:26.29 | NetRipper | bad joke :P |
| 19:26.31 | NetRipper | lol |
| 19:26.40 | dcordes | as you know I only have bad jokes |
| 19:26.49 | NetRipper | i do now :p |
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| 19:29.39 | Tigerzen | Entrez le texte ici...run Ubuntu with last compil |
| 19:29.56 | Tigerzen | What about you talk i running ubuntu on now |
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| 19:31.30 | phh | hey people, stop flooding my backlog :p |
| 19:31.46 | phh | [08:21:24] <mcdull> phh, fyi, I have disabled hw3dc coz blac100 doesnt work with it. Feel free to leave it enabled. <---- really ? |
| 19:31.56 | phh | can you be more specific maybe ? |
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| 19:32.13 | phh | [11:14:23] <Captnoord> who knows if its possible to create a android app that hooks to a linux debug file? <---- chamonix ! :p |
| 19:33.04 | phh | [14:12:01] <bombenbach> may I ask, why is android-kernel compiled with mesh-networking disabled |
| 19:33.04 | phh | [14:12:50] <bombenbach> I guess that's why Ad-Hoc connections don't work in Ubuntu, |
| 19:33.09 | phh | I haven't much to say but..... LOL |
| 19:33.45 | eval- | phh: why doesn't rhobuntu bring up usb0 & telnetd |
| 19:34.02 | Markinus | NetRipper: do you have something else as rootdelay=10 ? isn'T working too . . .. |
| 19:34.42 | phh | lol ? |
| 19:34.45 | Tigerzen | Markinus its working with rootdelay=20 sometime |
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| 19:34.48 | Tigerzen | somtime not |
| 19:34.51 | phh | eval-: I've almost nothing to do with rhobuntu ... |
| 19:35.02 | NetRipper | dcordes, can you try applying this diff? http://netripper.pastebin.com/DH90dKit |
| 19:35.06 | eval- | phh: ok. i bother who, bombenbach? |
| 19:35.07 | phh | I bring up usb0 by hand and I use the included sshd if I want to do anything with it |
| 19:35.11 | phh | eval-: don't knwo |
| 19:35.12 | phh | ow |
| 19:35.13 | Tigerzen | But on img file you should be have just set cmdline"" and ist working great |
| 19:35.33 | eval- | phh: well i have no touchscreen :p i guess i will play with the .img |
| 19:35.44 | dcordes | NetRipper, in order to get rid of mm/slab.o oops ? |
| 19:35.48 | phh | eval-: no touchscreen keyboard you mean ? |
| 19:35.51 | dcordes | NetRipper, or black screen? |
| 19:35.52 | NetRipper | dcordes, for the panel = black thing |
| 19:36.00 | dcordes | ok |
| 19:36.12 | phh | eval-: just add /sbin/ifconfig usb0 192.168.20.1 somewhere |
| 19:36.13 | NetRipper | dcordes, but maybe also the slab.. it seems the "back" of your physical memory is not very usable (looking as your ramconsole isnt working) |
| 19:36.14 | phh | it should be enough |
| 19:36.17 | phh | and find the root password. |
| 19:36.23 | NetRipper | dcordes, so this memory map puts all devices in front of memory instead of at the back of it |
| 19:36.26 | eval- | phh: no, my touchscreen is all un-calibrated. i was trying to use a newer kernel w/ tssc (mostly for wifi, with the tssc-calib stuff in rc.local) |
| 19:36.28 | Markinus | Tigerzen: you run ubunto yes? |
| 19:36.41 | Markinus | *Ubuntu |
| 19:36.44 | phh | eval-: hum, I don't know their calibration stuff |
| 19:36.59 | eval- | phh: it's all msmts AFAIK |
| 19:37.07 | eval- | phh: which makes me wonder what their zImage is built from |
| 19:37.08 | Tigerzen | Markinus : i run and have controle-D cause its ubuntu version for Rhodium |
| 19:37.12 | phh | eval-: ?!? |
| 19:37.22 | phh | eval-: uname -r ? |
| 19:37.26 | Tigerzen | ubuntu.img mounted kernel driver loaded |
| 19:37.35 | eval- | phh: soon... sooon..! i need access. |
| 19:37.41 | phh | lol right |
| 19:37.45 | Markinus | Tigerzen: I tried it too, but it'S comming till fsck for sd card .. than waiting waiting . . . do you have this too? |
| 19:37.53 | phh | eval-: it's weird, tssc_manager should work |
| 19:37.56 | NetRipper | yea the lpj= isnt needed anymore |
| 19:37.56 | phh | well, it does work actually |
| 19:38.02 | Tigerzen | wait i give you right start.txt |
| 19:38.20 | dcordes | Markinus, you could just disable it in /etc/fstab |
| 19:38.22 | Tigerzen | lol |
| 19:38.54 | Markinus | dcordes: yes, but I will boot ubuntu from it |
| 19:39.01 | eval- | phh: yes i don't know why it doesn't, i added the touchscreendir & calibration_points stuff to rc.local |
| 19:39.09 | dcordes | Markinus, huh? |
| 19:39.10 | phh | eval-: don't |
| 19:39.12 | phh | it's useless with tslib |
| 19:39.17 | eval- | tslib? |
| 19:39.47 | phh | [19:36:06] <eval-> araknos: what is the rhobuntu zImage they package built from? i didn't even try it |
| 19:39.48 | phh | [19:36:35] <araknos> eval-: ask phh <-------- lol ? |
| 19:40.20 | phh | [19:39:18] <eval-> i know nothing of the fb vs video-msm improvement <------- oh... nothing.... just make it usable, including for videos. |
| 19:40.21 | Markinus | dcordes: I thought they are mounting the ubuntu.img on boot, or not? |
| 19:40.23 | NetRipper | you know everthing phh :D |
| 19:40.36 | Tigerzen | Markinus yesssss and boottttt !!!! |
| 19:40.42 | phh | NetRipper: maybe, but my teachers aren't aware of that :p |
| 19:40.46 | NetRipper | :D |
| 19:40.53 | NetRipper | they're old, they're slow |
| 19:41.05 | Tigerzen | Markinus old ? |
| 19:41.08 | dcordes | NetRipper, did you diff against clean HEAD ? |
| 19:41.12 | phh | NetRipper: me too then, since I don't know I know everything either :p |
| 19:41.24 | NetRipper | dcordes, it should apply no problems |
| 19:41.31 | phh | [20:12:00] <eval-> chamonix: yea i am really thinking i want a resident auto-kill daemon, something like advanced task manager should spawn and destroy all but the apps i check off... this 'always on' process stack is cute and potentially good if it all works, but also really a pain <----- oh I have one. |
| 19:41.35 | NetRipper | i didnt check but nobody modified memory map it hink |
| 19:41.46 | Markinus | Tigerzen: ?!? |
| 19:41.59 | NetRipper | oh |
| 19:42.02 | NetRipper | someone did update .h |
| 19:42.06 | eval- | phh: didn't your mommy teach you? |
| 19:42.10 | eval- | phh: share! :p |
| 19:42.25 | phh | eval-: well I'm not totally sure of what you want |
| 19:42.27 | dcordes | Markinus, no matter if it is trying to fsck the sd card you can just disable that in fstab. |
| 19:42.32 | phh | wait for the end of the backlog first :p |
| 19:42.39 | eval- | phh: why is fb not usable? |
| 19:42.44 | Markinus | dcordes: ahh, the fsck check, right :) |
| 19:42.46 | Tigerzen | Markinus i use Rhodium Ubuntu not wifi version put ubuntu.img on root and Ubuntu folder |
| 19:42.56 | phh | eval-: everything is done in software |
| 19:43.06 | Tigerzen | Then i uncomment set cmdline ".... |
| 19:43.10 | phh | and software rendering is slow. |
| 19:43.44 | Markinus | Tigerzen: I taked only the initrd and the img file . . |
| 19:43.53 | NetRipper | dcordes, it patches cleanly over latest head for me |
| 19:43.54 | Tigerzen | change script initrd and uncomment e2fsck cause its not good version then compile your initrd |
| 19:44.06 | NetRipper | dcordes, if you got problems i'll up it somewhere else |
| 19:44.06 | Tigerzen | e2fsck hungs |
| 19:44.10 | Markinus | ok |
| 19:44.42 | dcordes | NetRipper, what about mailing list ?? |
| 19:44.52 | NetRipper | dcordes, www.netripper.com/leo/dcordes_memmap.diff |
| 19:44.55 | eval- | phh: ok |
| 19:45.07 | NetRipper | dcordes, isnt it just faster for you to test this than go through mailing list |
| 19:45.13 | stinebd | oy winphone7... |
| 19:45.14 | NetRipper | overhead, overhead |
| 19:45.17 | stinebd | just keeps getting worse |
| 19:45.30 | Tigerzen | and set cmdline "" |
| 19:45.35 | phh | eval-: ok. I'm pretty sure I misunderstood what you want |
| 19:45.59 | Tigerzen | now the problem its sometime boot all sometime small boot, i supposed its sdcard driver problem |
| 19:46.02 | phh | even thaught I could be able to code it. |
| 19:46.04 | eval- | phh: and tslib? why do we ts-calibration >/sys/bla/bla if we do not need to? i'm confused |
| 19:46.14 | phh | eval-: android doesn't use tslib |
| 19:46.19 | dcordes | NetRipper, yes yes you're right but I think the ml is a good tool to have the information more focused and easier accesible than irclog. |
| 19:46.20 | phh | s/thaught/thouogh/ |
| 19:46.22 | NetRipper | dcordes, besides that annoying linuxtogo.org mailserver isnt accepting mails from my server.. i have to re-reg with another email account :| |
| 19:46.31 | NetRipper | dcordes, yes, just test if it works first |
| 19:46.32 | dcordes | hrrm |
| 19:48.28 | Tigerzen | MArkinus : If you want nice boot you need reset Leo and dont plug usb just run haret |
| 19:49.04 | Tigerzen | Markinus when usb plug and unplug ubuntu doesnt boot |
| 19:49.09 | NetRipper | aw we had that problem with htcraphael and diamond too |
| 19:49.19 | bzo | phh: the mmc vdd switch patch breaks mmc on my diam500 |
| 19:49.20 | NetRipper | something about the init |
| 19:49.28 | phh | bzo: great. |
| 19:50.20 | bzo | phh: different gpios or something? |
| 19:50.21 | Markinus | Tigerzen: I test it with a usb kernel . . |
| 19:50.31 | dcordes | Markinus, it's possible that "rootdelay=n" isn't supposed to affect initrd |
| 19:50.33 | phh | bzo: just stupid hardware I'd say |
| 19:50.43 | phh | bzo: only diam500 is affected ? |
| 19:50.43 | dcordes | NetRipper, that worked. building. |
| 19:50.58 | Markinus | Tigerzen: but the last thing what I see is switching to rootfs . .. |
| 19:51.03 | bzo | phh: I would think raph800 would be too. makkonen? |
| 19:51.08 | dcordes | bzo, are you dzo's nephew or anything? |
| 19:51.18 | NetRipper | i gtg in a minute dcordes, let me know if that patch works... if it doesn't boot to anything at all, try modifying arch/arm/mach-msm/include/mach/memory.h and set 0x11800000 -> 0x17200000 |
| 19:51.20 | Markinus | is this what happens with USB in? |
| 19:51.22 | phh | bzo: you have movinand right ? |
| 19:51.28 | NetRipper | dcordes, but first try it like you have it now |
| 19:51.34 | phh | bzo: not uSD ? |
| 19:51.38 | bzo | dcordes: nah, just a coincidence I guess |
| 19:51.40 | dcordes | NetRipper, yea alright I will let the mailing list know ;= |
| 19:51.44 | NetRipper | ok |
| 19:51.47 | NetRipper | gtg |
| 19:51.48 | bzo | phh: the internal 4gb flash |
| 19:51.50 | dcordes | cya |
| 19:52.12 | Tigerzen | Markinus : reboot Leo and run haret dont plus usb |
| 19:52.19 | phh | bzo: right that thing is called movinand. I think the problem is that this thing doesn't provide correct vdd infos |
| 19:52.52 | Tigerzen | its verry strange |
| 19:52.58 | Tigerzen | maybe sdcard driver ? |
| 19:53.05 | Tigerzen | some time works great |
| 19:53.36 | Markinus | Tigerzen: ok |
| 19:53.57 | Tigerzen | verry verry strange |
| 19:54.12 | dcordes | NetRipper, Markinus maybe black screen is clock related? |
| 19:54.24 | bzo | phh: shouldn't the diam100 have the same problem then? |
| 19:54.24 | Tigerzen | I reboot Leo and change set cmdline "" to #set cmdline "" and its boot |
| 19:54.30 | phh | bzo: could be |
| 19:55.34 | dcordes | boozdelay, typo of day |
| 19:56.39 | dcordes | Markinus, btw, bootdealy=n milliosconds is also very useful cmdline parameter. but it has to be enabled in the kernel configuration first in hacking menu |
| 19:56.52 | dcordes | Markinus, it will have the kernel pause after each printk |
| 19:57.06 | Tigerzen | dcordes ive use it just for ext partition for great boot |
| 19:57.29 | Tigerzen | with ubuntu.img not nead just "" |
| 19:57.34 | Markinus | dcordes: ahh, ok |
| 19:57.51 | dcordes | Tigerzen, I can help you make phone work in ubuntu once we get to a useful driver state |
| 19:58.08 | Tigerzen | ok Markinus i understood probleme |
| 19:58.27 | Tigerzen | When you write something on sdcard and boot haret ubuntu boot right |
| 19:58.35 | Tigerzen | ???? |
| 19:58.42 | dcordes | arrrrrrr wtf where's = on leo keyboard |
| 20:01.09 | Markinus | Tigerzen: strange . . |
| 20:01.19 | Tigerzen | got a boot ? |
| 20:01.23 | Tigerzen | yes strange |
| 20:01.33 | Tigerzen | its seems activated sdcard write |
| 20:01.35 | Markinus | Tigerzen: with usb in no, I will now test without |
| 20:02.16 | Tigerzen | ok there's write on sdcard probleme |
| 20:02.33 | Tigerzen | cause ubuntu boot small sometime and bigger sometime |
| 20:02.37 | Markinus | Tigerzen: hmm, but I wanted to test usb . . I think it works only with USB in on boot . . . ( no usb detection yet ) hmm |
| 20:03.14 | dcordes | Markinus, usb detect gpio unknown? |
| 20:04.07 | Tigerzen | just write something on sdcard and save it its activated write on sdcard with haret but after boot ist not during |
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| 20:04.29 | Markinus | dcordes: yes, we have some gpios for USB, and nexus function is hidden in pwr supply stuff what didn'T work. I didn't have time for this till now |
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| 20:04.52 | Markinus | dcordes: hmm, maybe I check the stand in and you all can look to it too |
| 20:05.14 | dcordes | Markinus, leo gpio wiki page is totally nexus based ? |
| 20:05.36 | dcordes | history makes it not look like it |
| 20:05.44 | Markinus | dcordes: the gpios there are for leo and nexus there |
| 20:06.15 | dcordes | Markinus, ok too fast ^^ |
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| 20:06.32 | dcordes | 16 0x10 0 O +charger related (none=0,ac=1,usb=0?) looks interesting |
| 20:06.56 | Tigerzen | oh my god my english sucks !!! |
| 20:07.01 | dcordes | 104 0x68 0 O usb related (ac=1,0) |
| 20:07.09 | Tigerzen | sorry for arabien english |
| 20:07.11 | dcordes | 109 0x6d 5 O usb related (usb=0,ac=0,none=1) |
| 20:07.23 | dcordes | aringlish? |
| 20:07.31 | Markinus | dcordes: yes, I know, one of them! |
| 20:07.49 | Markinus | dcordes: 22 0x16 6 O + charger related (usb=0,none=1) |
| 20:08.34 | dcordes | how come nexus side doesn't have any usb detect entries? |
| 20:08.57 | phh | dcordes: do you know the current xf86-video-msm state for msm7k ? |
| 20:09.18 | Markinus | dcordes: MAHIMAHI_GPIO_DOCK |
| 20:09.19 | dcordes | phh, never tried it on non-A |
| 20:09.28 | phh | dcordes: I want it on A :p |
| 20:09.44 | dcordes | msm7k sound like non-A sorry |
| 20:09.52 | dcordes | it works to some extent |
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| 20:10.04 | Markinus | dcordes: 106 |
| 20:10.05 | phh | ah really ? |
| 20:10.13 | dcordes | yes but there are some problems |
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| 20:11.00 | phh | dcordes: something else than the rotation problem ? |
| 20:11.15 | dcordes | phh, yes like gtk drawing problems |
| 20:11.20 | phh | dcordes: ouch |
| 20:11.21 | dcordes | those 2 |
| 20:13.24 | stinebd | heh |
| 20:13.36 | stinebd | someone other than chamonix with 18 hours on battery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5889509&postcount=5063 |
| 20:13.54 | stinebd | never thought i'd see such a post on there ;) |
| 20:14.10 | phh | lol |
| 20:15.31 | [1]Captnoord | nope |
| 20:15.34 | [1]Captnoord | 8 hours on battery |
| 20:15.39 | [1]Captnoord | like 40% loss |
| 20:15.44 | [1]Captnoord | without using it |
| 20:16.20 | phh | bzo: according to glemsom's comments (DETU as usual though.), diam100 works |
| 20:16.30 | stinebd | i don't think i'll ever get to test mine for real. i keep rebooting for new kernels |
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| 20:16.54 | stinebd | and new broken system.sqsh's |
| 20:16.59 | bzo | bzo: I guess it must be a cdma problem then (as usual) |
| 20:17.00 | stinebd | god damn calendar and music |
| 20:17.10 | phh | bzo: I don't think it's cdma specific |
| 20:17.11 | phh | just diam500 :p |
| 20:17.46 | bzo | phh: blech, even better :P |
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| 20:21.59 | dcordes | Tigerzen, it's a great idea running ubuntu btw :) |
| 20:22.25 | dcordes | Tigerzen, because leo it's fast enough |
| 20:23.10 | Tigerzen | yes i see |
| 20:23.12 | MrPippy | phh: whats the diam500 problem? still mmc? |
| 20:23.31 | phh | MrPippy: why "still" ? |
| 20:23.35 | phh | it's not new ? |
| 20:23.44 | Tigerzen | i looks for modifie this ubuntu to ported on leo but first we need to find why sometime boot and other time no boot |
| 20:23.54 | MrPippy | just looking through logs, saw that something broke diam500 mmc yesterday? |
| 20:24.06 | phh | MrPippy: yeah vdd switching |
| 20:25.28 | MrPippy | is that fixed now? |
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| 20:25.34 | phh | no |
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| 20:25.52 | phh | I'm still empting my logs |
| 20:25.55 | phh | mails/forums |
| 20:25.57 | gauner1986 | hi |
| 20:26.23 | phh | "I can now report that my battery last for 18-20 hours with moderat using on my DIAM100." |
| 20:26.24 | phh | omfg |
| 20:26.26 | phh | on *diam* |
| 20:26.32 | phh | *100* |
| 20:26.42 | phh | the thing which battery has less capacity than my finger. |
| 20:26.45 | Tigerzen | MArkinus : what about htcleo_sdslot_switchvdd: Error setting level (15) |
| 20:27.46 | bzo | MrPippy: I think I have a fix for the touchscreen problem |
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| 20:27.56 | dcordes | phh, hope this not supposed to have any perverted connotation! |
| 20:28.11 | Tigerzen | haha |
| 20:28.20 | MrPippy | oh cool, what is it? |
| 20:28.24 | gauner1986 | dcordes: were you able to fix your booting issue? |
| 20:28.43 | dcordes | gauner1986, black screen? |
| 20:28.47 | gauner1986 | yeah |
| 20:28.50 | bzo | MrPippy: when polling for data, there is a case where the flag indicating there is data is not set |
| 20:28.57 | dcordes | gauner1986, not yet. did you get the black screen once? |
| 20:28.59 | bzo | currently the driver just zeros all the data and adds it to the queue |
| 20:29.10 | MrPippy | yeah i've been suspicious of that |
| 20:29.13 | bzo | sometimes this is the correct thing to do |
| 20:29.13 | dcordes | gauner1986, with the most recent kernel? |
| 20:29.19 | Tigerzen | dcordes : differente hardware Leo ? |
| 20:29.23 | bzo | but when it isn't, you get a double tap |
| 20:29.30 | gauner1986 | no.. not really.. but i have only tried yesterdays kernels |
| 20:29.40 | bzo | MrPippy: hold on, generating a patch |
| 20:30.52 | eval- | bzo: wow nice |
| 20:31.06 | eval- | bzo: and i was just about to litterl smd_7500 with printks =) |
| 20:31.12 | eval- | bzo: is that what you're patching? |
| 20:31.18 | bzo | MrPippy: http://pastebin.ca/1841591 |
| 20:31.26 | bzo | eval-: no, tssc_manager |
| 20:31.40 | bzo | eval-: though I think smd_7500 exacerbates the problem |
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| 20:32.00 | bzo | the touchscreen has been working perfect for me all day now |
| 20:32.15 | gauner1986 | ok, yes.. it was the most recent kernel |
| 20:32.16 | makkonen | do you still have averaging on? |
| 20:32.19 | gauner1986 | no changes since then |
| 20:32.20 | dcordes | Tigerzen, I don't know if there are component differences . cr2 says no |
| 20:32.24 | eval- | bzo: i had an uglier fix: http://pastebin.com/q8w9s3Tf |
| 20:32.36 | bzo | makkonen: dunno, whatever the tree has it set to now |
| 20:33.04 | makkonen | yeah, it's on in the tree. I think it's better off. |
| 20:33.09 | Tigerzen | dcordes : when you got black screen after boot, after what exactely ? |
| 20:33.11 | MrPippy | i'll post my smd_7500 patch to use memcpy for read(), i haven't done send() yet |
| 20:34.15 | bzo | eval-: yeah I saw yours. Motivated me to take another look at it :) |
| 20:34.17 | Markinus | Tigerzen: we have to get vregs working . .. |
| 20:34.58 | Tigerzen | i suppose vdd its voltage |
| 20:35.06 | [1]Captnoord | yup |
| 20:35.06 | phh | Tigerzen: yes |
| 20:35.18 | [1]Captnoord | okey... cracked some stupid program |
| 20:35.19 | [1]Captnoord | bleh |
| 20:35.20 | Tigerzen | then problem boot right sometime its near |
| 20:35.23 | [1]Captnoord | hates delpi |
| 20:35.30 | MrPippy | http://pastebin.com/a5p7YtT8 |
| 20:36.00 | Tigerzen | because some time ubuntu boot says fs error need e2fsck and some time not |
| 20:36.15 | dcordes | Tigerzen, after panel printks |
| 20:37.17 | Tigerzen | dcordes : didnt see logo ? |
| 20:37.26 | eval- | bzo: i'm confused why your patch works... it seems on spurious pen up events i get into the final if statement of polling func and then finish_queue/input_up.. so penirq_status was 1 and status.busy was 0 |
| 20:37.34 | dcordes | Tigerzen, no it never gets to the logo |
| 20:37.40 | [1]Captnoord | re |
| 20:37.48 | parmaster | rehi captnoord |
| 20:37.51 | bzo | eval-: I think those statuses change between the initial detection of no data, and when it checks for pen up event |
| 20:38.09 | Markinus | ths sd card is now configured from wince, I think this sould work too |
| 20:38.19 | Markinus | the VDD |
| 20:38.23 | MrPippy | bzo: makkonen: eval-: could you test out that smd_7500 patch, its worked fine for me but i want to make sure nothing weird happens on raph/other radio versions |
| 20:38.34 | Tigerzen | did you try last haret and put it in windows root not sdcard |
| 20:38.54 | eval- | MrPippy: yea i have been wondering if radio versions matter b/c some sprint cdma diamond users tell me they haven't had tap issues |
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| 20:39.10 | Captnoord | [21:33] <MrPippy> i'll post my smd_7500 patch to use memcpy for read(), i haven't done send() yet |
| 20:39.12 | bzo | MrPippy: ok will do, testing out a hunch on the mmc problem at the moment |
| 20:39.14 | Captnoord | arm spec memcpy? |
| 20:39.36 | gauner1986 | Markinus: any success on your usb thingy? :) |
| 20:39.44 | eval- | MrPippy: i actually don't have time to do this right now unfortunately :/ but i can look tomorrow |
| 20:39.50 | MrPippy | my last kernel from the thread might have had the smd_7500 patch in, i can't remember |
| 20:39.54 | MrPippy | sure no problem |
| 20:40.14 | MrPippy | Captnoord: regular memcpy(), just like smd.c uses |
| 20:40.16 | Markinus | gauner1986: partialy |
| 20:40.26 | Spirits-Sight | when I connect my device (Kaiser100-Tilt) to computer (Ubuntu) it does not show that its connect on the screen, sometimes it does but alot of times it connect then disconnect and does this on & off any ideas? |
| 20:40.43 | Tigerzen | dcordes : were i can you send file to test ? |
| 20:41.00 | dcordes | Tigerzen, what file? |
| 20:41.04 | bzo | MrPippy: I think we should do something about the excessive notify_other_smd() calls as well |
| 20:41.14 | Tigerzen | haret initrd Image start.txt |
| 20:41.16 | eval- | bzo: i'm still confused because i was getting spurious ups also without z1/z2 = 0 |
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| 20:41.35 | Captnoord | MrPippy: I think there is a patch for a special memcpy using arm asm.... |
| 20:41.38 | eval- | bzo: implying data flags were ok |
| 20:41.53 | twitter_notoriou | hello |
| 20:41.56 | dcordes | Tigerzen, I already booted a markinus Image amongside default.txt |
| 20:41.59 | MrPippy | notify_other_smd is just a single writel |
| 20:42.27 | Tigerzen | strange |
| 20:42.34 | Tigerzen | try it on win root ? |
| 20:42.47 | makkonen | bleh. why does git apply complain about so many patches? |
| 20:42.53 | dcordes | NetRipper, with that other difference you asked me to add manually: freeze in haret 100% |
| 20:42.56 | Tigerzen | suppose yes |
| 20:43.19 | bzo | eval-: hmm, dunno |
| 20:43.27 | dcordes | Tigerzen, check the xda thread. others tried my built and got same problem, some didn't. |
| 20:43.46 | MrPippy | i know the iomem version of memcpy just uses single-byte read/write on arm, but i've seen arm asm for memcpy() to do 4-word read/write |
| 20:43.49 | bzo | MrPippy: doesn't that trigger more work on the other smd channel? |
| 20:43.52 | dcordes | but I can try booting from nand |
| 20:44.10 | Tigerzen | my haret 158208 octets Image 4278720 octets look for your file octects |
| 20:44.24 | Captnoord | MrPippy: for that it would be like... |
| 20:44.25 | Captnoord | http://www.danielvik.com/2010/02/fast-memcpy-in-c.html |
| 20:44.30 | Captnoord | but i'm searching for something different |
| 20:44.52 | Tigerzen | maybe sdcard comtability |
| 20:45.24 | dcordes | bbiab |
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| 20:46.49 | MrPippy | notify_other_smd seems channel-specific, i thought it was the signal to radio that arm11 is about to read/just wrote to the ptrs |
| 20:47.24 | Tigerzen | dcordes : same octects ? |
| 20:47.51 | MrPippy | the BURST_SIZE is huge, i don't think its possible for that if to ever get executed |
| 20:48.01 | bzo | MrPippy: could be, I'm shooting in the dark on that. However, I seem to recall that smd.c only calls notify_other at the end of a read or write operation |
| 20:48.33 | eval- | bzo: PS, do you know what is up with the //hrtimer_cancel in the last if there? |
| 20:48.53 | MrPippy | thats what smd_7500 does, the one inside the while loop never gets called (at least for read) |
| 20:49.04 | eval- | bzo: and why do we normally generate two up events, one of which gets ignored in touch_input_up (the if >0) |
| 20:49.07 | MrPippy | too bad we can't do dma for smd |
| 20:49.32 | bzo | eval-: I think only the author can explain that to you :P There is a bunch of commented out code in there |
| 20:50.13 | MrPippy | another thing in tssc that doesn't make sense--the irq handler starting a workqueue which starts the timer (to run immediately) |
| 20:50.30 | araknos | where can i find .config for htc-linux |
| 20:50.37 | MrPippy | i've had the irq handler just starting the timer, don't think i notice any difference but it makes more sense |
| 20:51.01 | eval- | bzo: yeah i tried playing with all those commented things but oh 95% broke my touchscreen and i realized i had other things to do |
| 20:51.26 | Markinus | Ok, I check the USB changes in, maybe someone can do a USB initrd whitch is working with our fast boot |
| 20:51.27 | gauner1986 | dcordes: can't find your howto for building an angstrom initrd.. |
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| 20:52.52 | eval- | bzo: well, thanks for the clean patch. if it works, that's awesome =) i will test it and mr pippy's new radio tomorrow. |
| 20:53.11 | bzo | the tssc_manager is a bit of a mess. I think the HTC dev was trying to address a similar issue as my patch with the commented out "Trigger next operation" |
| 20:53.32 | bzo | eval-: hopefully it works on phones other than mine :) |
| 20:53.54 | eval- | it's disgusting code |
| 20:53.59 | eval- | trigger next operation did nothing for me |
| 20:54.20 | eval- | and yea, i guess the key is we don't break anything for gsm or those people who no doubletap |
| 20:54.41 | eval- | and don't rely on ugly timestamps which might return funny if our clocks or ticks go all silly ;) |
| 20:54.53 | araknos | eval-: where can i find htc_msm_android_defconfig link |
| 20:55.39 | stinebd | ~seen babijoee |
| 20:55.41 | apt | babijoee <~babijoee4@d110-33-175-95.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 2d 1h 47m 9s ago, saying: 'i use n1 for everything but development'. |
| 20:55.43 | eval- | ok. alas, i have to finish my real work. |
| 20:55.51 | eval- | araknos: /configs/htc_msm_android_defconfig i think |
| 20:55.53 | stinebd | gonna need his microp-keypad.kcm |
| 20:56.08 | stinebd | * and # don't work on the dialer for physkeyboard=raph |
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| 20:57.33 | araknos | tnx |
| 20:58.56 | bzo | MrPippy: the first issue with the mmc stuff seems to be in init_mmc where the diamond_cdma is getting assigned the gsm config |
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| 20:59.14 | bzo | assigning it to the raph_cdma config gets it further, but something is still broken |
| 20:59.44 | eval- | araknos: makkonen has a nice build script here http://www.androidonhtc.com/wiki/Get_Involved |
| 20:59.56 | bzo | instead of the mmc not being found and aborting, I get into an endless waiting for mmc loop |
| 21:00.53 | MrPippy | thats a problem we've always had with the raph cdma pdata |
| 21:01.13 | bzo | ah, so that was done intentionally? |
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| 21:01.27 | MrPippy | yeah |
| 21:01.31 | Spirits-Sight | anyone able to help with geting phone to stay connected to USB and working on Ubuntu? its kaiser running elcair. |
| 21:01.55 | bzo | hmm, so I guess we need a specific pdata just for the diam500 then |
| 21:01.58 | Markinus | I checked the first USB stuff in . . |
| 21:02.50 | dcordes | gauner1986, http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom |
| 21:03.14 | gauner1986 | yeah.. but that instructions don't come up with an initrd somehow |
| 21:03.25 | araknos | i like the build script, gonna debianize it a little bit |
| 21:03.42 | gauner1986 | in addition they compile an kernel zImage instead of an Image |
| 21:04.37 | dcordes | gauner1986, build tgz image and create initrd manually |
| 21:05.01 | gauner1986 | i'm currently trying that |
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| 21:06.18 | MrPippy | have you tested whether its the wider ocr_mask or the vdd switching that breaks it? |
| 21:06.49 | gauner1986 | though i have to get a kernel Image instead of a zImage.. |
| 21:06.55 | bzo | no, not yet, I'll give it a try |
| 21:06.59 | gauner1986 | dunno how to tell the angstrom toolchain that |
| 21:08.08 | Markinus | gauner1986: And the kernel and angrstrom have to be < 25 MB uncompressed .. this was my problem |
| 21:08.22 | gauner1986 | why is that? |
| 21:08.41 | MrPippy | and Captnoord the entire arm memcpy() is in arch/arm/lib/memcpy.S and copy_template.S, its all asm |
| 21:08.42 | Markinus | gauner1986: it's comming from Haret, don'T know why |
| 21:09.03 | gauner1986 | hmmmm |
| 21:09.09 | Captnoord | MrPippy: I know... but its old arch... as I remember |
| 21:09.17 | Markinus | gauner1986: I've 28 together |
| 21:09.20 | Captnoord | but... doesn't relly matter |
| 21:09.34 | gauner1986 | maybe some shit could be removed from there |
| 21:09.41 | Markinus | maybe . . |
| 21:09.52 | cr2_ | 25MB should be enough for everybody |
| 21:10.03 | phh | 640kB* |
| 21:10.07 | Captnoord | Wout: first try estimated battery discharge level |
| 21:10.08 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 21:10.08 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 21:10.28 | cr2_ | phh: lol, if you will remove the symbols |
| 21:10.34 | gauner1986 | should be.. if you want to get into a mess when testing and gzip compression doesnt work in the kernel @cr2 |
| 21:10.36 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 21:11.13 | cr2_ | i don't really understand why gz is not working |
| 21:11.34 | cr2_ | actually i have compiled the zimage, and it was bootable |
| 21:11.37 | bzo | MrPippy: problem appears to be translate_vdd |
| 21:11.45 | Captnoord | blah failed |
| 21:11.53 | gauner1986 | cr2: i havent tried it myself |
| 21:11.56 | Tigerzen | Markinus if i change clock rate on write delay and compile ? |
| 21:11.59 | cr2_ | so something in our setup must be fucked up |
| 21:12.15 | gauner1986 | cr2: i just relied on netrippers saying that it does not work |
| 21:12.23 | Wout | Captnoord: failed altogether? or just wrong results? |
| 21:12.30 | Captnoord | wrong results |
| 21:12.35 | cr2_ | gauner1986: yes, it stopped working later |
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| 21:13.20 | gauner1986 | mhm |
| 21:13.48 | Markinus | cr2_: I'm testing it now . . . moved UART ->3 as first |
| 21:14.10 | cr2_ | ok |
| 21:14.26 | Wout | windows phone 7 sdk is looking supereasy |
| 21:14.50 | cr2_ | Wout: for compiling haret ? |
| 21:14.51 | phh | Wout: you mean restrained |
| 21:15.20 | Wout | I'd rather call it n00b friendly :P |
| 21:15.31 | phh | ok. |
| 21:18.09 | cr2_ | Captnoord: have you sorted out the battery math ? |
| 21:18.53 | Hoochster | whatup! |
| 21:18.55 | cr2_ | Markinus: a leo usb2serial converter would be cool |
| 21:19.14 | Hoochster | reading back I see we have what might be a real tssc fix? |
| 21:19.42 | Captnoord | cr2_: a bit |
| 21:20.13 | Markinus | cr2_: ohh, yes |
| 21:20.17 | phh | cr2_: the usb transceiver model you gave me, it's diamond one's only, or it's also raph's one ? |
| 21:21.11 | cr2_ | phh: it may be not exactly the same model |
| 21:21.26 | cr2_ | phh: but the most regs make sense |
| 21:21.35 | phh | cr2_: I meant about the usb otg feature ... :p |
| 21:21.36 | cr2_ | phh: but there are several undocumented regs too |
| 21:21.47 | bzo | Hoochster: awaiting confirmation from testers, but it is working great for me now |
| 21:21.53 | cr2_ | phh: yes, the ulpi chip |
| 21:21.54 | Markinus | cr2_: I activated USB, I can see the device under win after boot, but we didn'T have a worked USB initrd yet |
| 21:22.14 | gauner1986 | Markinus: are you saying usb should work atm? |
| 21:22.15 | phh | cr2_: ok, I wondered wether it was diam-specific or not (since only diam's SPL handles it AFAIK) |
| 21:22.29 | cr2_ | Markinus: afair there is 1 different register in the ulpi init |
| 21:22.53 | Markinus | cr2_: ahh, ok, did you have this? |
| 21:22.54 | Hoochster | as soon as I get home I will throw the 2 patches on as well great to hear |
| 21:22.57 | cr2_ | phh: raph has the code to update from usb stick |
| 21:23.10 | cr2_ | Markinus: i need to dig for my notes |
| 21:23.57 | cr2_ | Captnoord: how many input and output params do you have ? |
| 21:24.17 | phh | cr2_: oh ok |
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| 21:24.26 | cr2_ | Markinus: here are my ulpi notes |
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| 21:24.31 | cr2_ | 31 - c |
| 21:24.35 | cr2_ | 32 - 30 |
| 21:24.39 | cr2_ | d 1d |
| 21:24.45 | cr2_ | 10 - 1d |
| 21:24.54 | cr2_ | 140|1 |
| 21:24.57 | Captnoord | cr2_: like I told you before relax |
| 21:25.07 | cr2_ | Captnoord: ok |
| 21:25.09 | Captnoord | I don't have everything sorted yet |
| 21:25.12 | cr2_ | Markinus: and |
| 21:25.13 | Captnoord | now working on discharge |
| 21:25.19 | Captnoord | charging is a entire different story |
| 21:25.28 | cr2_ | usb 170 = 40|40000 |
| 21:25.34 | cr2_ | 39 - 34 |
| 21:25.37 | cr2_ | 30 - 1 |
| 21:25.41 | cr2_ | 9 - 8 |
| 21:25.53 | cr2_ | usb 184|800000 |
| 21:26.01 | cr2_ | clk10c=3e00 |
| 21:26.59 | araknos | damn ! dpkg-architecture: warning: Specified GNU system type arm-linux-gnueabi does not match gcc system type i |
| 21:27.03 | araknos | 486-linux-gnu. |
| 21:27.06 | araknos | wtf! |
| 21:27.07 | Markinus | cr2_: thx! |
| 21:27.17 | tmzt_ | ARCH= |
| 21:27.37 | tmzt_ | hmm that's for packages |
| 21:28.08 | araknos | yeah indeed |
| 21:28.23 | araknos | i tried to modify build.sh to |
| 21:28.33 | cr2_ | static int mahimahi_phy_init_seq[] = { |
| 21:28.34 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.35 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.37 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.38 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.50 | araknos | MAKEFLAGS="ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=$TOOLCHAIN_PATH INSTALL_MOD_PATH=$MODULES_PATH/kernel-modules" make-kpkg --arch armel --append-to-version=-rhobuntu-01 --cross-compile=/home/raul/rhobunu/arm-2008q3/bin/arm-linux-gnueabi- --zimage binary kernel_image modules --initrd |
| 21:28.58 | araknos | still i dont understand what i am missing |
| 21:29.15 | Markinus | cr2_: yes, the 2nd 0x31 is a 0x30 |
| 21:29.16 | cr2_ | Markinus: so it's 0x30, 0x32 and not 0x31, 0x32 like on nexus |
| 21:29.20 | cr2_ | ok |
| 21:29.33 | cr2_ | phh: are these regs documented ? |
| 21:29.37 | cr2_ | phh: afair , no |
| 21:29.47 | phh | cr2_: I don't think so |
| 21:30.18 | Wout | chamonix: is your radio log tool anywhere near release quality? |
| 21:30.30 | cr2_ | Markinus: the second set was for ulpi_low_power |
| 21:30.46 | cr2_ | [22:25] <cr2_> usb 170 = 40|40000 |
| 21:30.48 | cr2_ | [22:25] <cr2_> 39 - 34 |
| 21:30.49 | cr2_ | [22:25] <cr2_> 30 - 1 |
| 21:30.51 | cr2_ | [22:25] <cr2_> 9 - 8 |
| 21:30.52 | cr2_ | [22:25] <cr2_> usb 184|800000 |
| 21:30.54 | cr2_ | [22:26] <cr2_> clk10c=3e00 |
| 21:31.04 | stinebd | ~ramconsole |
| 21:31.05 | apt | [ramconsole] pwf dm 0x8e0000 0x20000 |
| 21:31.12 | Markinus | cr2_: I have to find out where this is configured |
| 21:32.50 | cr2_ | Markinus: maybe you don't need it. at least now. |
| 21:33.03 | cr2_ | but the 0x30 -> 0x31 change may make sense |
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| 21:34.05 | Captnoord | hmmmm |
| 21:34.24 | Captnoord | I do realy wonder why the linux batt->current is very small |
| 21:34.28 | Captnoord | and the windows is large |
| 21:35.13 | cr2_ | Captnoord: do they correlate ? |
| 21:35.29 | Markinus | cr2_: ok, I changed it already. |
| 21:35.34 | Captnoord | nope..... |
| 21:35.41 | Captnoord | I think its related to get_batt_id |
| 21:35.44 | Markinus | cr2_: the uboot source is very nice :) |
| 21:36.05 | cr2_ | Markinus: but not very helpful for usb, i guess |
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| 21:36.47 | Markinus | cr2_: no, but for clocks etc |
| 21:36.54 | Markinus | we have all register |
| 21:37.17 | cr2_ | yes |
| 21:37.28 | cr2_ | not all, but most |
| 21:38.10 | Markinus | cr2_: 27000 lines are not bad :) |
| 21:39.14 | cr2_ | mdp_busy in the syslog again |
| 21:40.04 | Markinus | cr2_: but yes, I couldn't find some clock IDX, different names |
| 21:40.49 | cr2_ | dcordes: lol, who has put such gay mascot instead of a friendly penguin ?? |
| 21:41.08 | Ondalf | http://album.buzer.net/i/irc/93986600e94f89d43145b557fb647f6b8b2380258caef3f7304f620a18838cabca75d26c.jpg xD |
| 21:41.16 | Ondalf | grr, wrong chat :S |
| 21:41.29 | dcordes | cr2_, I don't know but it's really ridiculous |
| 21:41.35 | Markinus | :) |
| 21:41.39 | cr2_ | yeah |
| 21:42.20 | dcordes | but it's even worse I can't boot |
| 21:42.21 | cr2_ | Markinus: looks like a rat |
| 21:42.30 | dcordes | can't get to see the super mascot :( only seen it on a screenshot |
| 21:43.05 | Markinus | cr2_: yes, was not there a discussion on a kernel version? and they replaaced for some time this? Ididn't know more the reason |
| 21:43.37 | cr2_ | Markinus: it may be some android penguin |
| 21:43.58 | dcordes | speaking of tux have you seen this ? http://img688.imageshack.us/i/tuxgoogle.jpg/ |
| 21:44.26 | cr2_ | dcordes: http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/8840/dsc0683r.jpg |
| 21:44.33 | Markinus | cr2_: no, it's from tasmania, |
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| 21:44.48 | cr2_ | dcordes: there are still some mdp problems there, btw |
| 21:45.49 | cr2_ | dcordes: get x11 running first |
| 21:46.39 | Markinus | cr2_: it's to show the people this problem: http://tassiedevil.com.au/ Linus T. named this kernel "Temporary Tasmanian Devil" |
| 21:46.48 | cr2_ | Markinus: btw, to shutdown wifi, you need to disable the vreg1 only |
| 21:47.04 | Markinus | cr2_: ok |
| 21:47.19 | cr2_ | but for powerup there are 3 vregs |
| 21:47.42 | cr2_ | otherwise the cpu will loose power |
| 21:47.58 | dcordes | tazdevil angry |
| 21:48.00 | dcordes | fella |
| 21:48.14 | cr2_ | and i'm not sure about this one too |
| 21:48.18 | cr2_ | -#define HTCLEO_GPIO_WIFI_SHUTDOWN_N 127 |
| 21:48.20 | cr2_ | +#define HTCLEO_GPIO_WIFI_SHUTDOWN_N 129 |
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| 21:50.56 | cr2_ | Markinus: the usb has cdc_ether id ? |
| 21:50.57 | Markinus | cr2_: ok, I changed it because I saw that 127 is wrong. But ok, I think we have to dump it if we'Re working on wifi later |
| 21:51.54 | gauner1986 | Markinus: my kernel+initrd is 18mb |
| 21:51.55 | cr2_ | Markinus: 129 is set to 1 on powerup |
| 21:51.55 | gauner1986 | *trying now* |
| 21:51.55 | PSPdemon | cuious, does the HTC Touch Pro 2 ( Rhodium ) have usb host capabilities beyond that of the bootloader allowing usb flashdrives for flashing rom images |
| 21:51.55 | Tigerzen | Markinus : last compile makes boot right ubuntu now but says sdcard only read |
| 21:51.55 | cr2_ | Markinus: hm. maybe shutdown_n |
| 21:51.55 | Markinus | cr2_: ahh, ohk :) |
| 21:52.03 | Captnoord | how is the gpio config after wince has been unloaded? |
| 21:52.04 | Tigerzen | wont write on sdcard |
| 21:52.22 | cr2_ | PSPdemon: maybe, but you need an external 5V vbus support anyway |
| 21:52.38 | Markinus | Tigerzen: I tinkt it says a bit more, that this ignore thos, or? |
| 21:52.58 | PSPdemon | true and i already knew that |
| 21:53.14 | cr2_ | Tigerzen: eh ? microSD can't be readonly |
| 21:53.41 | Tigerzen | ok i thinks its same error before i reboot once time again to see if same error |
| 21:53.48 | Markinus | gauner1986: ok :) |
| 21:53.51 | cr2_ | Markinus: the usb vbus detection is known |
| 21:54.01 | cr2_ | + /* TODO: detect vbus and correctly notify USB about its presence |
| 21:54.03 | cr2_ | + * For now we just declare that VBUS is present at boot and USB |
| 21:54.04 | cr2_ | + * copes, but this is not ideal. |
| 21:54.32 | Markinus | cr2_: I put it in, because we have to do it . . |
| 21:54.45 | cr2_ | Markinus: it's readl() |
| 21:54.48 | gauner1986 | mh |
| 21:54.53 | gauner1986 | it says it cannot open /dev/ram |
| 21:55.00 | cr2_ | like on 7201A, just the different base SMEM offset |
| 21:55.02 | gauner1986 | do i have to create /dev/ram in initrd? |
| 21:55.12 | cr2_ | gauner1986: you have it in .config ? |
| 21:55.16 | Markinus | cr2_: ok, I will look to it |
| 21:55.25 | gauner1986 | cr2_: it works with netrippers initrd |
| 21:55.36 | gauner1986 | cr2_: with same Image |
| 21:55.42 | cr2_ | gauner1986: ok |
| 21:55.55 | MrPippy | in htc_battery_smem we read fc00c and set vbus based on that |
| 21:56.08 | Markinus | cr2_: do you know, do we have a GPIO for phys USB reset? |
| 21:56.17 | cr2_ | MrPippy: the smem location is different on qsd |
| 21:56.34 | cr2_ | Markinus: i have not seen it. |
| 21:56.42 | cr2_ | Markinus: it seems no. |
| 21:57.40 | cr2_ | 0x4000, which bit is that ? |
| 21:57.54 | cr2_ | 14 ? |
| 21:57.54 | Markinus | cr2_: maybe RPC like Sapphire? |
| 21:58.02 | NetRipper | dcordes, did the panel work _without_ the 2nd adjustment that i gave you? |
| 21:58.19 | cr2_ | Markinus: should work directly like in uboot |
| 21:58.23 | Markinus | cr2_: yes |
| 21:58.35 | Markinus | cr2_: ok |
| 21:58.46 | cr2_ | Markinus: it's just about a new sane proc_comm implementation |
| 21:59.09 | dcordes | NetRipper, freezes with the last panel init printks on the screen. and before it shows LSD pixel screen for some 50ms |
| 21:59.11 | Markinus | ahhh, ok :) |
| 21:59.21 | dcordes | as I said |
| 21:59.30 | cr2_ | dcordes: the mdp error needs to be clarified |
| 21:59.31 | NetRipper | LSD? |
| 21:59.51 | dcordes | NetRipper, like writing /dev/urandom to framebuffer |
| 21:59.55 | NetRipper | dcordes, ah |
| 21:59.59 | dcordes | colourful pixel arts |
| 22:00.01 | NetRipper | yes |
| 22:00.08 | dcordes | so something changed with that patch |
| 22:00.18 | NetRipper | yes, it uses a different memory area |
| 22:00.20 | gauner1986 | cr2_: okay.. it doesnt boot.. somehow the config must be altered after htcleo_defconfig by the angstrom toolchain.. damn. what's the .config entry for /dev/ram ? |
| 22:00.24 | NetRipper | which isnt blanked out by default |
| 22:00.33 | NetRipper | because it is written by wince |
| 22:00.39 | NetRipper | the other area is less likely to be written by wince |
| 22:00.44 | NetRipper | hence black i guess |
| 22:00.51 | NetRipper | (i guess 0x00000000 = black?) |
| 22:01.02 | cr2_ | NetRipper: 16bit |
| 22:01.06 | Tigerzen | ok its just same random error with sdcard |
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| 22:01.23 | NetRipper | 0x0000 then |
| 22:01.24 | NetRipper | :p |
| 22:01.30 | dcordes | the funniest thing is to add the cmdline "bootdelay=300" and watch the screen fade to black concentrically (in unpatched current kernel) |
| 22:01.32 | dcordes | looks very funny |
| 22:01.42 | dcordes | like witchkraft |
| 22:01.46 | cr2_ | lol |
| 22:01.48 | gauner1986 | with my old kernel it says it doesnt find some modules.dep file.. someone here said that i can configure the location of that file... how? |
| 22:02.35 | cr2_ | dcordes: can you dump the mdp regs and compare with wiki ? |
| 22:02.41 | dcordes | gauner1986, you got any modules? |
| 22:02.48 | gauner1986 | yeah |
| 22:02.51 | gauner1986 | inside the initrd |
| 22:02.58 | NetRipper | cr2_, lol make a movie :D |
| 22:02.59 | gauner1986 | modules.dep is also present |
| 22:03.01 | NetRipper | uh |
| 22:03.05 | NetRipper | s/cr2_/dcordes/ |
| 22:03.06 | NetRipper | almost the same |
| 22:03.10 | gauner1986 | but it looks at the wrong location |
| 22:03.15 | gauner1986 | for modules.dep |
| 22:03.27 | dcordes | NetRipper, ok after the mdp dump |
| 22:03.32 | dcordes | cr2_, what's the command :D ? |
| 22:03.35 | cr2_ | NetRipper: bit 14 |
| 22:03.40 | cr2_ | #else /* CONFIG_MSM_MDP31 */ |
| 22:03.41 | cr2_ | #define MDP_DMA_P_DONE (1 << 14) |
| 22:03.46 | gauner1986 | lib/modules/2.6.29/some-weird-path/modules.dep |
| 22:03.59 | cr2_ | dcordes: Leo_LCD wiki page |
| 22:04.15 | Tigerzen | wicth initrd used you gauner ? |
| 22:04.27 | gauner1986 | Tigerzen: my own angstrom compiled |
| 22:04.51 | Tigerzen | angstrom its for geek no sleep |
| 22:05.05 | dcordes | Tigerzen, whaaaaat?? |
| 22:05.11 | gauner1986 | Tigerzen: what do you use? |
| 22:05.13 | Tigerzen | 24Hours to compile |
| 22:05.20 | gauner1986 | :D yes |
| 22:05.24 | cr2_ | Markinus: btw, if you have gpio alt config now, add the panel detection routine |
| 22:05.26 | gauner1986 | but i have my own server running here |
| 22:05.29 | gauner1986 | so no problem |
| 22:05.41 | cr2_ | Markinus: it's just 4 gpio bits set to I, and read out. |
| 22:05.58 | Tigerzen | you can use a very fast this thread i do it for http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631216 |
| 22:06.04 | Markinus | cr2_: ok, I will look to it too |
| 22:06.05 | cr2_ | i promise to document the spi init properly |
| 22:06.34 | cr2_ | then we can shutdown the lcd in wince, and kick it back in linux. |
| 22:06.53 | cr2_ | good for the resume too. |
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| 22:07.13 | gauner1986 | yeah.. i saw that Tigerzen. but you dont mention where and how to get that initrd.gz from |
| 22:08.24 | Tigerzen | initrd its just script |
| 22:08.39 | Tigerzen | good working one its ubuntu rhodium |
| 22:08.50 | gauner1986 | and the binaries |
| 22:08.51 | gauner1986 | ? |
| 22:08.53 | gauner1986 | mhm |
| 22:08.53 | dcordes | gauner1986, check the wiki for initrd making |
| 22:08.59 | Tigerzen | its on initrd |
| 22:09.05 | gauner1986 | i know how to create an initrd |
| 22:09.12 | gauner1986 | not the problem |
| 22:09.13 | Tigerzen | take not wifi support |
| 22:10.14 | Tigerzen | I edit thread need to be user to works and compile initrd need root |
| 22:10.44 | gauner1986 | to what extend does it boot Tigerzen? |
| 22:11.08 | NetRipper | right |
| 22:11.17 | NetRipper | did you try the exciting things already gauner? |
| 22:11.19 | NetRipper | android? |
| 22:11.32 | Tigerzen | i try android and change script |
| 22:11.43 | gauner1986 | not really.. only angstrom.. until now ^^ |
| 22:11.45 | Tigerzen | but to mucht segmentation fault |
| 22:13.20 | Tigerzen | because random error on sdcard i have chance to see ubuntu once time running and kernel panic |
| 22:13.57 | Tigerzen | see a blue screen with installation |
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| 22:14.34 | cr2_ | Tigerzen: bsod sounds good |
| 22:14.44 | Tigerzen | yes like bsod |
| 22:15.02 | dcordes | cr2_, http://www.linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/misc/leo-lcd-dump-dcordes.txt |
| 22:16.17 | cr2_ | NetRipper: i'll add videolfb to haret now |
| 22:16.32 | NetRipper | cr2_, ok |
| 22:16.33 | chamonix | <Captnoord> who knows if its possible to create a android app that hooks to a linux debug file? <-- what exactly do u mean? |
| 22:16.54 | polyrhythmic | you mean like OSmonitor? |
| 22:17.13 | Captnoord | NAH |
| 22:17.24 | Captnoord | I want to display current from the battery sensor |
| 22:17.29 | Captnoord | but i think something is wrong anyway |
| 22:17.51 | dcordes | favorite apps for that purpose are cat less tail |
| 22:17.51 | cr2_ | dcordes: aa290008 is different |
| 22:18.03 | chamonix | Captnoord: ApplySettings is reading and writing from any file |
| 22:18.21 | cr2_ | dcordes: hm. it's the dma buffer address |
| 22:18.26 | cr2_ | dcordes: so it's ok |
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| 22:19.13 | cr2_ | dcordes: you setup is exactly the same. |
| 22:19.38 | dcordes | cr2_, hmhm |
| 22:19.47 | NetRipper | dcordes, radio rom 2.08 |
| 22:19.49 | NetRipper | go go go |
| 22:19.51 | chamonix | Captnoord: u want it as a widget or just an android app that does cat /whatever and displays it? |
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| 22:20.22 | Captnoord | widget |
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| 22:20.36 | myn | where is the file? |
| 22:20.53 | Captnoord | but I don't need it now.... |
| 22:21.02 | Captnoord | as I think something is wrong with the current sens |
| 22:21.10 | dcordes | NetRipper, but then I need to boot windows |
| 22:21.35 | dcordes | hm wait no |
| 22:21.39 | chamonix | k, I was looking for a reason to look at the widget part of the SDK anyway, so let's prototype wumthin |
| 22:21.45 | NetRipper | dcordes, errr? so? lol |
| 22:21.50 | NetRipper | dcordes, ohh like on your home pc |
| 22:21.51 | NetRipper | :P |
| 22:22.00 | NetRipper | dcordes, NO dont flash it via sdcard! |
| 22:22.06 | dcordes | why not? |
| 22:22.15 | NetRipper | i think something was up with that |
| 22:22.29 | dcordes | I've seen a cool exe that promises to not hard reset |
| 22:22.30 | NetRipper | im not sure |
| 22:22.46 | NetRipper | dcordes, ehh, the special exe _does_ do the hard reset |
| 22:22.52 | NetRipper | it was modded to do task 29 afterwards |
| 22:22.59 | NetRipper | the normal customruu doesnt hard reset |
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| 22:23.37 | chamonix | <= Wout> chamonix: is your radio log tool anywhere near release quality? <--- unfortunately not, my job doesn't allow me much hobby-time those days |
| 22:23.38 | NetRipper | dcordes, it was modded because windows 7/vista users have to do a lot of hassle before they can get MTTY if they want to hard reset after a flash :p |
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| 22:24.04 | NetRipper | (although i dont get why they just dont hold the volume up/down buttons, but ok) |
| 22:24.07 | dcordes | Rename the extracted file to "RUU_Signed.nbh" and flash with the CustomRUU: it won't hardreset your device. |
| 22:24.30 | Tigerzen | gauner : http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_rokdownloads&view=file&task=download&id=103:ubuntu-for-rhodium |
| 22:24.33 | NetRipper | ok |
| 22:24.58 | dcordes | NetRipper, well. that's a quote from the guy who says my leo Image killed his wince filesystem |
| 22:25.10 | gauner1986 | Tigerzen: how far does it boot? |
| 22:25.16 | dcordes | iirc |
| 22:25.22 | NetRipper | dcordes, lol, he's planning revenge, beware |
| 22:25.26 | NetRipper | dcordes, is it kholk? |
| 22:25.45 | NetRipper | i responded to it i think |
| 22:25.49 | bzo | MrPippy: vreg_set_level() is what is causing the mmc issue |
| 22:26.02 | dcordes | yes. maybe he replaced CustomRUU by zero-the-spl.exe |
| 22:26.06 | Hoochster | MrPippy, to test the tssc stuff, are you wanting both bzo's patch as well as your smd_7500 patch, or just the smd one? |
| 22:26.19 | bzo | makkonen: are you running the mmc vreg patch? |
| 22:26.20 | Tigerzen | gauner : just need ubuntu.img and initrd.gz unzipped but now sdcard problem randomely boot long and some time boot small but not hungs its just strange |
| 22:26.37 | bzo | Hoochster: just mine |
| 22:27.19 | MrPippy | i guess it doesn't matter, i just want to make sure the smd_7500 patch doesn't cause panics before i push it |
| 22:27.26 | MrPippy | and smd_7500 is cdma diam/raph only |
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| 22:27.33 | NetRipper | dcordes, nice idea for a virus |
| 22:27.56 | Tigerzen | gauner im sure if the problem about random error on sdcard its resolve ubuntu can be boot |
| 22:28.17 | bzo | Hoochster: right, MrPippy did want some testers for his smd patch. But if you only want to test the tssc, you only need mine |
| 22:29.03 | Hoochster | so the smd is separate than the tssc stuff, and not applicable to rhod then. ok, I will just test yours bzo |
| 22:29.17 | bzo | MrPippy: I think the vreg may be an RPC problem. Maybe it is different from gsm? After failing to boot I see a rpcrouter hang msg |
| 22:29.24 | Hoochster | unless MrPippy you want me to throw it in there to verify it doesn't affect rhod's heh |
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| 22:29.50 | Markinus | cr2_: Do we get a USB irq if we plug the cable in? |
| 22:29.50 | dcordes | NetRipper, hmmmm the nice stock roms :( |
| 22:30.09 | MrPippy | don't bother, won't do anything on rhod ;-) |
| 22:30.17 | cr2_ | Markinus: i don't think so |
| 22:30.29 | cr2_ | Markinus: you may get a gpio irq |
| 22:30.34 | Hoochster | MrPippy, np thanks, will report back on the tssc patch |
| 22:30.50 | NetRipper | dcordes? don't flash a stock rom via sd card, that will overwrite your hardspl |
| 22:30.50 | cr2_ | Markinus: look how they are configured in wince |
| 22:31.20 | dcordes | NetRipper, wait I thought with that customruu I just fash from wince |
| 22:31.21 | Markinus | yes, this I thoght as a second way too. I thing we need a small function what react to this gpio irq and set the vbus correctly |
| 22:31.29 | cr2_ | Markinus: uart1 ? |
| 22:31.33 | NetRipper | dcordes, if you flsah from windows thats fine |
| 22:31.34 | cr2_ | CONFIG_MSM_DEBUG_UART=1 |
| 22:31.36 | cr2_ | # CONFIG_MSM_DEBUG_UART_NONE is not set |
| 22:31.37 | cr2_ | CONFIG_MSM_DEBUG_UART1=y |
| 22:31.53 | cr2_ | Markinus: i think you can disable the debug uart for now |
| 22:32.00 | NetRipper | dcordes, if you flsh via sdcard (LEOIMG.NBH on sdcard) then it will overwrite hardspl if there's spl in the nbh |
| 22:32.22 | cr2_ | it's of no use without usb2serial gadget |
| 22:32.33 | Markinus | cr2_: I modified it localy, didn'T push it yet. Ok, I disable this completly |
| 22:32.34 | MrPippy | yeah maybe the mmc vreg (gp6) just doesn't work on diam, the voltage and card are fixed so why put an adjustable vreg on it |
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| 22:32.52 | dcordes | NetRipper, 2.08 TMOUS |
| 22:33.04 | dcordes | NetRipper, every provider will think I'm from the US and A |
| 22:33.09 | cr2_ | CONFIG_MSM_SERIAL_DEBUGGER=y |
| 22:33.10 | cr2_ | CONFIG_MSM_SERIAL_DEBUGGER_NO_SLEEP=y |
| 22:33.54 | dcordes | NetRipper, which radio and dll combo do you run?? |
| 22:34.03 | cr2_ | hm |
| 22:34.05 | cr2_ | CONFIG_CMDLINE="mem=64M console=ttyMSM,115200n8" |
| 22:34.13 | cr2_ | not very useful |
| 22:34.20 | bzo | MrPippy: odd thing is that diam100 users seem to have to issue with the latest glemsom kernel |
| 22:34.37 | bzo | s/to/no |
| 22:34.50 | cr2_ | eh? aout ? |
| 22:34.53 | cr2_ | CONFIG_HAVE_AOUT=y |
| 22:35.00 | dcordes | uh oh |
| 22:35.31 | cr2_ | dcordes: lol. CONFIG_ANDROID_PARANOID_NETWORK=y |
| 22:36.07 | Markinus | cr2_: nexus . . |
| 22:36.31 | NetRipper | dcordes, uhhhh i dont really use the dlls |
| 22:36.35 | cr2_ | # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM is not set |
| 22:36.53 | NetRipper | dcordes, i used a custom rom that said "you better first flash 2.08 or higher radio rom, otherwise my rom wont boot" |
| 22:36.57 | NetRipper | so i guess something proper is in there |
| 22:37.07 | AstainHellbring | hi |
| 22:37.18 | cr2_ | Markinus: ? CONFIG_SMC91X=y |
| 22:37.24 | Hoochster | whatup AstainHellbring |
| 22:37.31 | AstainHellbring | hey Hoochster |
| 22:37.36 | cr2_ | haha |
| 22:37.39 | cr2_ | CONFIG_NETDEV_1000=y |
| 22:37.40 | cr2_ | CONFIG_NETDEV_10000=y |
| 22:38.03 | cr2_ | androidisms everywhere |
| 22:38.06 | cr2_ | CONFIG_BCM4329_FW_PATH="/system/etc/firmware/fw_bcm4329.bin" |
| 22:38.08 | cr2_ | CONFIG_BCM4329_NVRAM_PATH="/proc/calibration" |
| 22:38.23 | dcordes | omg android paths |
| 22:38.32 | makkonen | bzo: what patch? |
| 22:38.33 | Markinus | cr2_: I tking we need the wlan chip as module |
| 22:38.44 | Markinus | *think |
| 22:38.47 | cr2_ | this is wrong too |
| 22:38.50 | cr2_ | CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_MSM=y |
| 22:38.52 | cr2_ | CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_SYNAPTICS_I2C_RMI=y |
| 22:38.58 | bzo | makkonen: commit phh pushed yesterday for mmc |
| 22:39.07 | cr2_ | we don't have either of them |
| 22:39.16 | makkonen | I'm running the latest kernel with mrpippy's smd thing and your touchscreen. everything seems good. |
| 22:39.27 | cr2_ | CONFIG_INPUT_CAPELLA_CM3602=y |
| 22:39.35 | cr2_ | is this confirmed ? |
| 22:39.48 | makkonen | except tssc_average is still bugging me. should be removed. |
| 22:39.56 | cr2_ | i think we have proximity sensr behind the microP |
| 22:40.11 | dcordes | scary how fast the leo usb is |
| 22:40.13 | bzo | makkonen: hmm, seems that the mmc issue is only on diam500 then. Are the dbl taps fixed for you? |
| 22:40.14 | makkonen | mrpippy: can you turn off averaging when you commit bzo's tssc patch? it makes the right side of the screen just slightly twitchy. |
| 22:40.23 | cr2_ | # CONFIG_DEVMEM is not set |
| 22:40.32 | makkonen | yeah, seems gone. haven't had a single one yet. |
| 22:40.43 | cr2_ | Markinus: these too |
| 22:40.46 | cr2_ | CONFIG_SERIAL_MSM=y |
| 22:40.47 | cr2_ | CONFIG_SERIAL_MSM_CONSOLE=y |
| 22:40.52 | Hoochster | I will confirm as well in a moment bzo finishing compiling |
| 22:41.09 | dcordes | I photographed a random person using kovsky |
| 22:41.11 | bzo | the torture test for dbl taps is scrolling through a market screen while it is updating the icons |
| 22:41.15 | Hoochster | we need ccache setup in the build script makkonen heh |
| 22:41.16 | cr2_ | Markinus: don't have this one CONFIG_VP_A1026=y |
| 22:41.20 | Hoochster | guess I can add that |
| 22:41.41 | cr2_ | Markinus: these are wrong too |
| 22:41.43 | cr2_ | CONFIG_W1_SLAVE_DS2784=y |
| 22:41.48 | makkonen | hoochster: what now? |
| 22:41.50 | cr2_ | CONFIG_BATTERY_DS2784=y |
| 22:42.00 | makkonen | is it not setting up compcache correctly? |
| 22:42.15 | Hoochster | makkonen, nothing, just giving you a hard time, needs ccache enabled to compile faster heh |
| 22:42.31 | makkonen | oh |
| 22:42.39 | dcordes | hspl ist keine gültige anwendung für pocket pc |
| 22:42.46 | makkonen | you should go in and enable multiple cores if you've got 'em, too. |
| 22:42.48 | cr2_ | LOL |
| 22:42.55 | Hoochster | ya thanks makkonen |
| 22:43.00 | dcordes | NetRipper, seems like I gotta boot windows to flash hspl |
| 22:43.16 | NetRipper | dcordes, you dont have hspl yet? |
| 22:43.20 | dcordes | no |
| 22:43.23 | NetRipper | ah |
| 22:43.24 | cr2_ | Markinus: you don't enable it # CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_EHCI is not set |
| 22:43.29 | dcordes | well yes I got it! got the exe |
| 22:43.54 | dcordes | if you say sd flashing can end up with pita |
| 22:43.59 | cr2_ | CONFIG_LEDS_CPLD=y |
| 22:44.01 | NetRipper | dcordes, then also try booting the kernel (the one without any of my patches) after hardspl |
| 22:44.04 | cr2_ | no cpld here |
| 22:44.07 | NetRipper | before you flash anything else |
| 22:44.12 | dcordes | why? |
| 22:44.20 | NetRipper | hardspl could make a difference as well |
| 22:44.28 | Markinus | cr2_: ok, all things changed, thx |
| 22:44.28 | NetRipper | cr2_, do you have hardspl? |
| 22:44.40 | cr2_ | Markinus: don't have this too CONFIG_REGULATOR_TPS65023=y |
| 22:44.44 | dcordes | NetRipper, that could explain the random black screen appearance on xda |
| 22:44.56 | dcordes | it's a try brb |
| 22:45.13 | NetRipper | dcordes, yes.. its easy for you to do now cos you need to go through all these steps.. so try to boot each time after you flash something :) |
| 22:45.17 | cr2_ | NetRipper: no, i never flash anything |
| 22:45.19 | NetRipper | then we can see if its spl, or radio |
| 22:45.29 | NetRipper | cr2_, pff, not a real nerd |
| 22:45.47 | cr2_ | NetRipper: can you disable the mpu with hspl ? |
| 22:46.00 | NetRipper | cr2_, i dont know how to |
| 22:46.00 | cr2_ | NetRipper: hate ms more than flashing |
| 22:46.03 | NetRipper | give me the instructions :p |
| 22:46.17 | dcordes | I have latest hong kong shipped roms on my kaiser :) |
| 22:46.32 | MrPippy | hmm i've never noticed the twitchy right side with averaging but if bzo's patch makes everything better then i don't mind taking it out |
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| 22:46.59 | Hoochster | looks good here bzo |
| 22:47.02 | cr2_ | NetRipper: try to write 0 to 0xa84c0000+0x800 |
| 22:47.03 | gauner1986 | strange.. |
| 22:47.11 | Hoochster | will use it a bit and see if it flakes out after time |
| 22:47.12 | cr2_ | NetRipper: but first read its value |
| 22:47.14 | NetRipper | cr2_, er ok what adress is that? |
| 22:47.15 | dcordes | gauner1986, oO |
| 22:47.15 | gauner1986 | i always get it can't open device "ram" |
| 22:47.33 | gauner1986 | though the ram thingy should be enabled |
| 22:47.37 | dcordes | x_x |
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| 22:47.56 | gauner1986 | when i compile the kernel seperatly that doesnt happen |
| 22:47.59 | cr2_ | NetRipper: ? |
| 22:48.06 | cr2_ | [23:47] <cr2_> NetRipper: try to write 0 to 0xa84c0000+0x800 |
| 22:48.07 | cr2_ | [23:47] <cr2_> NetRipper: but first read its value |
| 22:48.11 | NetRipper | yes i read it |
| 22:48.15 | NetRipper | cr2_, what reg is it? |
| 22:48.38 | cr2_ | NetRipper: mpu on/off |
| 22:48.50 | NetRipper | ok |
| 22:48.52 | NetRipper | hold |
| 22:48.54 | cr2_ | smi or ebi, don't rememebr |
| 22:49.31 | NetRipper | HaRET(1)# pd 0xa84c0800 0x4 |
| 22:49.31 | NetRipper | a84c0800 | 00000001 | .... |
| 22:49.36 | cr2_ | enabled |
| 22:49.40 | cr2_ | can you clean it ? |
| 22:50.05 | cr2_ | Markinus: we need to bash NetRipper to write a ts driver for leo :) |
| 22:50.19 | gauner1986 | Tigerzen: do i have to flash that ubuntu.img on a partition of my sd-card? |
| 22:50.43 | NetRipper | cr2_, no i cant |
| 22:50.56 | cr2_ | // Initrd will be put at the address of kernel + 5MB |
| 22:50.58 | cr2_ | #define PHYSOFFSET_INITRD (PHYSOFFSET_KERNEL + 0x500000) |
| 22:51.01 | cr2_ | is it ok ? |
| 22:51.25 | Tigerzen | just put it on root sdcard and Ubuntu folder with leo file haret image initrd |
| 22:51.41 | Tigerzen | start.txt |
| 22:51.43 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:51.45 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:51.46 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:51.53 | cr2_ | it seems android kernel hates that |
| 22:52.47 | NetRipper | cr2_, yes, just means kernel is max 5MB |
| 22:52.49 | Tigerzen | set cmdline "rootdelay=20" |
| 22:53.24 | NetRipper | cr2_, dont worry about that message.. :) |
| 22:55.02 | cr2_ | NetRipper: physical fbadrr for lfb ? |
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| 23:00.15 | cr2_ | NetRipper: they are global ? |
| 23:00.18 | cr2_ | // Screen width and height |
| 23:00.20 | cr2_ | uint videoW, videoH; |
| 23:00.32 | NetRipper | if they're not within any { } scope, then yes |
| 23:00.49 | cr2_ | looks like that. not very nice. |
| 23:01.23 | cr2_ | uint16 *vidGetVirtVRAM() |
| 23:01.35 | cr2_ | uint16. hm |
| 23:01.52 | NetRipper | you can then import them in another .c file by doing extern uint videoW; |
| 23:02.18 | cr2_ | yeah, but it's still not very nice. |
| 23:02.33 | NetRipper | true |
| 23:02.34 | cr2_ | uint32 vidGetVRAM() |
| 23:02.39 | cr2_ | this looks much better |
| 23:02.41 | NetRipper | do a grep on it, maybe its there for a reason |
| 23:03.08 | cr2_ | no, it's historica |
| 23:03.39 | cr2_ | hm. nothing for bpp |
| 23:03.57 | cr2_ | queried, but not used |
| 23:04.04 | cr2_ | i'll put 16 for now. |
| 23:04.20 | cr2_ | we have uint16 * there anyway. |
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| 23:05.22 | cr2_ | NetRipper: done. compiling |
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| 23:08.07 | cr2_ | NetRipper: testing left to the hackerz -> http://xda.privatepaste.com/ed2b17ea13 |
| 23:08.19 | cr2_ | NetRipper: at least it compiles for me |
| 23:09.02 | NetRipper | hmm videolfb does not have stride info? |
| 23:09.21 | cr2_ | not in the tag_videolfb |
| 23:09.28 | cr2_ | only lfb_linelength |
| 23:10.41 | MoonShadow384 | Okay, noob question. Where does Angstrom keep its startup scripts? |
| 23:11.04 | cr2_ | NetRipper: lfb_size seems to be redundant |
| 23:11.05 | Hoochster | MrPippy and bzo I have been trying to get it to dt for awhile now and it seems pretty solid |
| 23:11.12 | NetRipper | i don't really like the AMSS stuff in there, isn't it very qsd/msm/htc specific? |
| 23:11.35 | bzo | Hoochster: good to hear, thanks |
| 23:11.46 | bzo | MrPippy: ok, tracked down the mmc problem. The mmc was being initialized to 1.8v. According to the MoviNAND specs, the NAND runs at 3v |
| 23:11.54 | NetRipper | cr2_, i mean, wouldnt it be better to have a callback to the mach->addCustomAtags()? or something |
| 23:11.59 | Hoochster | bzo, no, thank you! :) |
| 23:12.02 | cr2_ | NetRipper: maybe |
| 23:12.14 | cr2_ | NetRipper: but it does not hurt on other platforms |
| 23:12.17 | MrPippy | had a feeling it was something like that, someone said movinand doesn't give valid voltage info (ocr) |
| 23:12.26 | bzo | when I hardcode the voltage to 3v, it boots fine. |
| 23:12.26 | cr2_ | NetRipper: because nobody forces you to parse it |
| 23:12.40 | cr2_ | NetRipper: and it's still some kind of board "revision" |
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| 23:13.03 | NetRipper | cr2_, true.. yea but could we detect AMSS version on, for example, samsung winmo devices? |
| 23:13.07 | bzo | MrPippy: I guess the fix is to put a if !isdiamondcdma() in front of the voltage adjustment part |
| 23:13.21 | MrPippy | yeah i'll see if theres a cleaner way to do it |
| 23:13.27 | cr2_ | NetRipper: i think so, because it'S some qualcomm "standard" |
| 23:13.51 | NetRipper | cr2_, ok bad comparison, how about a PXA320 device :P |
| 23:14.44 | cr2_ | NetRipper: i think on hermes (s3c) there is some board revision value |
| 23:14.56 | cr2_ | NetRipper: set by cpld bits |
| 23:15.01 | bzo | MrPippy: hmm, specs say the interface is "x1, x4, x8 bus & 26MHz, 52MHz". Remind me what speed we are running the interface? |
| 23:15.07 | NetRipper | cr2_, anyway you understand what im getting at.. i think its best to leave that bit out until there's the actual detection code (and like a default 0 when not able to detect) |
| 23:15.20 | cr2_ | NetRipper: and on pxa263/pxa270 there were boardid numbers too |
| 23:15.22 | NetRipper | in fact i think revision should be done by mach |
| 23:15.24 | NetRipper | yea |
| 23:15.32 | NetRipper | that just confirms it.. should be per mach then |
| 23:15.42 | NetRipper | /arch |
| 23:15.54 | MrPippy | hmm i can't remember...30 MHz? |
| 23:15.54 | Markinus | cr2_: for panel ID ok? |
| 23:15.54 | Markinus | DEX_GPIO_CFG(0x1d, 0, GPIO_INPUT, GPIO_NO_PULL, GPIO_4MA, 0 ), |
| 23:15.54 | Markinus | DEX_GPIO_CFG(0x72, 0, GPIO_INPUT, GPIO_NO_PULL, GPIO_4MA, 0 ), |
| 23:15.54 | Markinus | DEX_GPIO_CFG(0x79, 0, GPIO_INPUT, GPIO_NO_PULL, GPIO_4MA, 0 ), |
| 23:15.54 | Markinus | DEX_GPIO_CFG(0x82, 0, GPIO_INPUT, GPIO_NO_PULL, GPIO_4MA, 0 ), |
| 23:16.07 | cr2_ | NetRipper: i think it's better to add it here, than adding weird strsep() stuff into the kernel |
| 23:16.14 | cr2_ | NetRipper: it looks really ugly there. |
| 23:16.15 | NetRipper | cr2_, you feel like adjusting the htc_fb_console for VIDEOLFB as well? :p |
| 23:16.57 | cr2_ | NetRipper: then i'll remove othr weird code from there too :) |
| 23:17.06 | bzo | MrPippy: also, MoviNAND reporting 1.8v is not completely bogus. I can run the interface at 1.8v or 3.0v. However, it only supports a vcc of 3v on the NAND itself |
| 23:17.12 | NetRipper | cr2_, markinus has already added his amss_para.c, so we can detect the amss version |
| 23:17.14 | cr2_ | NetRipper: i think vsfb will need it too |
| 23:17.21 | NetRipper | vsfb? |
| 23:17.31 | NetRipper | you mean msm_fb? |
| 23:17.37 | cr2_ | NetRipper: hehe, good luck submitting that code to mainline ;) |
| 23:17.43 | cr2_ | vsfb too |
| 23:17.46 | MrPippy | so its tolerant of 1.8v signals? |
| 23:17.48 | cr2_ | used on s3c and pxa |
| 23:18.04 | cr2_ | like hermes and athena now. |
| 23:18.04 | NetRipper | cr2_, doh, you think any of our code ends up in mainline? |
| 23:18.12 | bzo | yep, Vccq : 1.8V/3.0V for I/O |
| 23:18.29 | cr2_ | NetRipper: yes, if we will stop writing crappy patches :) |
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| 23:18.39 | MoonShadow384 | Wouldn't it have told you that kind of thing on the datasheet? |
| 23:18.40 | NetRipper | i doubt it sincerely |
| 23:18.49 | MrPippy | do you have a datasheet? |
| 23:18.51 | cr2_ | NetRipper: i have a pretty good vision what we should do |
| 23:19.04 | cr2_ | NetRipper: and how we should push it on androids |
| 23:19.16 | bzo | no, just the marketing info: http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/products/fusionmemory/Products_MoviNAND.html |
| 23:19.27 | cr2_ | NetRipper: i'm concerned only about 1 thing on leo |
| 23:19.34 | cr2_ | NetRipper: it's the ts driver. |
| 23:19.39 | NetRipper | cr2_, write up your vision then please, add some pseudo to clearify.. i asked you before because its blurry to me.. i understand that proc_comm bit but not everything you're aiming at |
| 23:19.52 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:19.57 | NetRipper | cr2_, ok |
| 23:20.12 | NetRipper | why do you think touchscreen will be a problem then? |
| 23:20.17 | NetRipper | we cant trace it? |
| 23:20.40 | cr2_ | NetRipper: ok, i'll write a new proc_comm stub driver. it'll be as easy as this videolfb patch. |
| 23:20.52 | cr2_ | NetRipper: good things are always simple :) |
| 23:20.58 | NetRipper | cr2_, i agree |
| 23:21.10 | NetRipper | cr2_, but extend your descrption outside proc_comm as well |
| 23:21.10 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 23:21.16 | cr2_ | because it's a completely new development |
| 23:21.27 | NetRipper | yea just act like we never committed anything |
| 23:21.36 | cr2_ | and this strange multitouch thing. i don't really get it |
| 23:21.40 | NetRipper | ah |
| 23:22.00 | cr2_ | NetRipper: yes. i'm aiming for minimal possible patches to the google code |
| 23:22.12 | NetRipper | yes |
| 23:22.16 | cr2_ | then we have good chances to add it to the (android) mainline |
| 23:22.43 | NetRipper | we always have the opportunity to make things nice when we move to a new kernel branch |
| 23:22.48 | NetRipper | newer version |
| 23:22.50 | cr2_ | swetland had actually nothing against it, as long as we have sensible rationale |
| 23:23.00 | NetRipper | ok |
| 23:23.08 | cr2_ | and this code will work on g1 |
| 23:23.30 | cr2_ | maybe on nexus too, but we need somebody with nexus/desire to do the tests for us |
| 23:23.38 | MrPippy | it should work to just set ocr_mask back to its old value for diam500 |
| 23:23.46 | cr2_ | i think 500⬠just for testing is a bit too mcuh |
| 23:24.19 | AstainHellbring | cr2_ I know a guy with n1 that might be able to test for you |
| 23:24.38 | cr2_ | AstainHellbring: shell access + installing devmem2 ? |
| 23:24.53 | cr2_ | AstainHellbring: maybe adding /dev/mem driver, and recompiling the kernel ? |
| 23:24.59 | AstainHellbring | I know he's rooted his n1 so would be willing to do whatever most likely |
| 23:25.08 | cr2_ | AstainHellbring: it looked pretty difficult with g1 ;) |
| 23:25.15 | cr2_ | ok |
| 23:25.17 | AstainHellbring | what did? |
| 23:25.35 | cr2_ | getting this data from g1 people |
| 23:26.00 | MrPippy | but this switch() in init_mmc is starting to get pretty hard to read, don't know if i want to add it in here |
| 23:26.48 | bzo | MrPippy: yes, I agree that the old ocr_mask will fix it |
| 23:27.05 | bzo | there seems to be precendent to put specific cases in the functions themselves |
| 23:27.22 | bzo | for example, the status is hardcoded for diamond |
| 23:28.24 | MrPippy | true, but there wouldn't be any easy way to put that in the switch |
| 23:28.42 | MrPippy | the switch is where all the device-specific mods to the pdata are, and thats what we need |
| 23:28.56 | NetRipper | Markinus, did you check the new defconfig you committed? :) it just re-adds most of it when you make menuconfig and save ;) |
| 23:29.05 | NetRipper | because the parent nodes arent disabled |
| 23:29.43 | Markinus | NetRipper: arg, yes, .. I frogott . . |
| 23:29.48 | Markinus | forgott |
| 23:29.49 | Markinus | :( |
| 23:29.50 | NetRipper | :D |
| 23:29.53 | NetRipper | np |
| 23:30.11 | NetRipper | i just had a lot of questions when makign with new config :p |
| 23:31.02 | Markinus | NetRipper: I do it tomorror or so . . ups |
| 23:31.16 | Markinus | NetRipper: I'M looking now for the display ID |
| 23:31.41 | cr2_ | NetRipper: what will we do with the ts driver ? |
| 23:31.54 | cr2_ | NetRipper: the biggest PITA is that we can't mmutrace i2c |
| 23:32.02 | MrPippy | take a look at this http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/products/fusionmemory/downloads/applicationnote/eMMC_app_note_for_Power_up_rev0.pdf |
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| 23:32.48 | NetRipper | hmm yea quite some segmentation faults on the android initrd |
| 23:33.11 | MrPippy | i think its slightly different from regular mmc, since you have to send cmd1 before cmd58(which returns the ocr/voltage) |
| 23:33.46 | MoonShadow384 | You could try contacting samsung directly |
| 23:34.14 | NetRipper | cr2_, i cant find the reason for that still |
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| 23:34.30 | NetRipper | Markinus, display id? |
| 23:34.31 | cr2_ | NetRipper: something v7 specific ? |
| 23:34.40 | cr2_ | NetRipper: lcd id bits |
| 23:34.52 | NetRipper | cr2_, i guess so, the android image is probably for armv4 or armv5 |
| 23:34.56 | jafterdark | hi |
| 23:35.16 | NetRipper | cr2_, could also be differences in toolchain |
| 23:35.22 | cr2_ | ok |
| 23:35.31 | cr2_ | vfp maybe |
| 23:35.47 | cr2_ | but it should be backwards compatible too |
| 23:35.51 | bzo | MrPippy: on regular mmc is the IO voltage and vcc the same? |
| 23:36.15 | randomblame | bad day for me, just pulled off my cylinder head on my 280z, lost a valve and it went through the piston :( |
| 23:36.26 | NetRipper | cr2_, exactly |
| 23:36.36 | NetRipper | cr2_, could also be that cpu voltage is too low |
| 23:36.41 | jafterdark | is there any way to edit the apn |
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| 23:37.04 | cr2_ | NetRipper: do you dump the "spare" speed setting ? |
| 23:37.09 | NetRipper | spare? |
| 23:37.13 | Markinus | cr2_: Panel ID: 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x1 |
| 23:37.20 | cr2_ | TCSR_SPARE2 register |
| 23:37.37 | cr2_ | NetRipper: the mpu can be disabled ? i've missed it |
| 23:38.01 | cr2_ | Markinus: does it match the dmesg ? |
| 23:38.09 | cr2_ | Markinus: the wince dmesg |
| 23:38.18 | jafterdark | try to get US Cellular data service |
| 23:38.26 | jafterdark | to work |
| 23:38.31 | NetRipper | cr2_, no i couldnt set the bit to 0 |
| 23:39.06 | cr2_ | NetRipper: ok, same here |
| 23:39.07 | Markinus | cr2_: hmm not DetectA UO panel by reading, LCD_R0=1, LCD_G0=1,LCD_B0=1 |
| 23:39.13 | cr2_ | [SPL] BoardID>2, AUO panel by default. |
| 23:39.14 | cr2_ | [SPL] Turn on power first to detect panel type |
| 23:39.16 | cr2_ | [SPL] DetectA UO panel by reading, LCD_R0=1, LCD_G0=1,LCD_B0=1 |
| 23:39.25 | MrPippy | i think the mmc voltage spec is 2.7-3.6V, so if it accepts anything else thats just an extra |
| 23:39.27 | jafterdark | in a file |
| 23:39.30 | cr2_ | Markinus: hm, ok. need to fix that |
| 23:39.49 | cr2_ | Markinus: you need to set the gpio, and the vreg first |
| 23:40.11 | cr2_ | gpio 58=1 |
| 23:40.16 | cr2_ | msleep 2 |
| 23:40.22 | cr2_ | vreg 4 = a28 |
| 23:40.28 | cr2_ | msleep 10 |
| 23:40.40 | cr2_ | 1d=I3 (id3) |
| 23:40.49 | cr2_ | 72=I3 (id0) |
| 23:41.00 | cr2_ | 79=I3 (id1) |
| 23:41.02 | jafterdark | i edit the apn it just disappears like it delete |
| 23:41.08 | cr2_ | 82=I3 (id2) |
| 23:41.10 | cr2_ | sleep 1 |
| 23:41.16 | cr2_ | Markinus: then read |
| 23:41.27 | cr2_ | 1d,72,79,82 |
| 23:41.31 | Markinus | ok |
| 23:41.34 | NetRipper | jafterdark, i think its something you set in the cmdline.. but i dont know really as i dont use it |
| 23:41.56 | randomblame | jafterdark, us cellular is still around? |
| 23:42.00 | NetRipper | jafterdark, google on haret android apn cmdline or something, you should find something then |
| 23:42.19 | NetRipper | i need sleep |
| 23:42.21 | NetRipper | good night guys :) |
| 23:42.30 | Markinus | good night! |
| 23:42.41 | cr2_ | NetRipper: i have some notes on TS, but mmutrace will be better :) |
| 23:42.45 | cr2_ | good night |
| 23:42.57 | NetRipper | cr2_, alright just put em on wiki :) i'll read them |
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| 23:43.02 | NetRipper | cr2_, i'll trace anyway |
| 23:43.04 | cr2_ | ok |
| 23:43.12 | NetRipper | good to have 2 sources :) |
| 23:43.14 | NetRipper | night :) |
| 23:44.00 | cr2_ | need to sleep too |
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| 23:45.49 | jafterdark | thanks |
| 23:50.25 | jafterdark | i found some thing but how do i need to put this |
| 23:50.47 | jafterdark | ppp.username |
| 23:51.40 | jafterdark | 1xRTT username=%MIN%@uscc.net |
| 23:51.47 | jafterdark | like this |
| 23:52.00 | randomblame | anyone know how to use a spi only backlight/lcd driver? |
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| 23:52.34 | MrPippy | jafterdark: ppp username/password goes into pap-secrets in the rootfs |
| 23:53.01 | MrPippy | i tried that with a uscc user, didn't seem to work |
| 23:53.37 | jafterdark | not the DEFAULT.TXT: |
| 23:54.18 | jafterdark | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=TOPAZ_ANDROID |
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| 23:56.15 | randomblame | mrpippy: Is it possible to use one of the spi only drivers rather than an mddi client? |
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| 23:56.37 | MrPippy | i've never seen that ppp.username option before, afaik its not going to work for our rootfs |
| 23:57.05 | MoonShadow384 | Gah. xtscal runs, but doesn't respond to taps. Angstrom still non-functional. |
| 23:57.25 | randomblame | there is a very good match under backlight it's an earlier ilitech client, without mddi support. |
| 23:57.55 | MrPippy | so you want to hack the mddi support into the driver? |
| 23:58.08 | randomblame | if nessecary |
| 23:58.36 | randomblame | I was hoping I could spi it for now for some output, I could deal with slowness |
| 23:58.48 | randomblame | but msm7xxxx is build for mddi right |
| 23:59.00 | MrPippy | if its attached through mddi the spi isn't going to work |
| 23:59.11 | randomblame | yeah I figured as much |
| 23:59.19 | randomblame | ili9326 is my client |
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| 23:59.52 | randomblame | can't find anyone else using it |
