| 00:02.09 | MrPippy | its in the rootfs in lib/ |
| 00:05.14 | stinebd | probably old leftovers |
| 00:06.02 | stinebd | the stuff in /system/lib is what's used now (with wifi modules bound in /system/lib/modules) |
| 00:08.58 | MrPippy | ok, i'm trying out some ril changes, guess i can just mount --bind it to /system/lib |
| 00:09.49 | stinebd | you can either do that or change init.eclair.rc |
| 00:10.09 | stinebd | the rild service accepts a path to the lib |
| 00:11.47 | tmzt | somebody get ril to build standalone? |
| 00:12.44 | MrPippy | i'm building it but its using the android build system |
| 00:13.21 | tmzt | how much of it? |
| 00:14.26 | MrPippy | looks like libcutils, libutils, and libril all need to be there |
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| 00:26.18 | MrPippy | hmm /system/lib has libhtc_ril.so (a giant file) and libhtcgeneric-ril.so |
| 00:29.10 | MrPippy | yeah [rild.libpath]: [/system/lib/libhtc_ril.so] |
| 00:29.23 | Hoochster | Go Pippy, Go Pippy! |
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| 03:08.52 | Unholy | sup ppls |
| 03:10.03 | Ondalf | http://kuvaton.com/browse/14218/meanwhile_in_finland.jpg |
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| 03:38.16 | polyrhythmic | OpenEclair 1.2.2 polymod 2.1g gamma for Kaiser/Vogue/Polaris now available in Light & Dark themes! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600154 |
| 03:41.23 | myn | nice poly :) |
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| 03:49.01 | polyrhythmic | thanks myn :> |
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| 03:52.38 | Unholy | do they work on the raph? |
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| 04:03.43 | polyrhythmic | Unholy: RAPH still uses rootfs.img AFAIK, my build is no-rootfs |
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| 04:03.52 | polyrhythmic | Unholy: it's probably not hard to port though |
| 04:04.07 | Unholy | ah |
| 04:04.25 | Unholy | yea but dunno how to do that heh XD |
| 04:04.28 | Unholy | i* |
| 04:08.25 | polyrhythmic | well in the spirit of OpenEclair anyone is welcome to port with credit to OE, but it's probably best to port from the original OE anyway |
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| 04:15.39 | karafa | I read someone saying that disabling debugging and putting android on an exf2 partition speeds it up. is this a signifigant increase? |
| 04:18.05 | polyrhythmic | depends on what you're using now |
| 04:18.17 | polyrhythmic | NAND > ext2 partition > .img file |
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| 04:18.42 | karafa | yeah im using the img file |
| 04:19.04 | Spirits-Sight | Hi, I am wondering how long should it take to get a GPS fix for kaiser running Android? |
| 04:19.22 | polyrhythmic | data is a lot more stable on ext2, the FAT causes corruption of the .img |
| 04:19.35 | polyrhythmic | Spirits-Sight: depends, sometime 30 seconds, sometimes 3 minutes |
| 04:19.39 | karafa | Im not exactly sure how to do that, i guess. I suspect that winmo cant read ext2 |
| 04:20.03 | karafa | and i cant just slap the img file on a separate partition |
| 04:20.07 | karafa | any guides anywhere? |
| 04:20.08 | polyrhythmic | karafa: there are guides on XDA but if you're never partitioned before it's a PITA |
| 04:20.34 | karafa | I have, that much is easy for me, Im just not sure what to put where |
| 04:20.35 | polyrhythmic | Spirits-Sight: use the GPSTest app free from the market |
| 04:20.55 | karafa | this is for raph800, i suspect the process is the same for all though? |
| 04:21.23 | polyrhythmic | Spirits-Sight: I just updated my polymod build, it includes GPSTest and GPS is solid on polymod 2.1g |
| 04:21.40 | polyrhythmic | karafa: I think it's the same but I'm not sure. I recommend using gParted in Linux |
| 04:21.49 | polyrhythmic | Windows partition programs tend to screw it up |
| 04:21.56 | karafa | im on osx actually |
| 04:22.09 | polyrhythmic | hmm I've never partitioned on OSX |
| 04:22.09 | Spirits-Sight | Hi Poly great job much more responsive however I had to do three resets to get it to not have any FC first time it froze after next reboot was little faster and it gave two FC and would not response to touch next reset toke battery out and wait a min or two then reset and it allowed touch and after that restarted one more time and now its wonderful |
| 04:23.02 | polyrhythmic | Spirits-Sight: yes this build needs a lot of rest on the first boot, I'm glad you got it working! It was frustrating for me at first but once I got it running good I made a backup and now it runs solid |
| 04:23.22 | polyrhythmic | ok, time for dinner, cheers y'all!! |
| 04:24.02 | Spirits-Sight | polyrhythmic: I still don't have connection to GPS I have the phone on the pooch out side |
| 04:24.58 | Spirits-Sight | oops I am using the latest from your thread :-) enjoy dinner Poly |
| 04:33.48 | AstainHellbring | hi |
| 04:36.55 | Hoochster | whatup stain |
| 04:39.41 | AstainHellbring | not much Hoochster you? |
| 04:40.25 | Hoochster | ohh just a chillin |
| 04:40.31 | Hoochster | hows the Harmony? |
| 04:40.57 | AstainHellbring | very nice |
| 04:41.03 | AstainHellbring | needs some tweaking still |
| 04:41.06 | AstainHellbring | but I likes it |
| 04:41.25 | Hoochster | cool cool! heh yup on the tweaking takes a bit to get it perfect but worth it in the end |
| 04:41.45 | AstainHellbring | mostly its my stupid tv |
| 04:41.53 | Hoochster | heh time to upgrade |
| 04:42.12 | AstainHellbring | been that way for a while |
| 04:42.22 | AstainHellbring | tv takes forever to start responding to inputs |
| 04:42.55 | AstainHellbring | just need $ to be able to upgrade tv |
| 04:43.05 | AstainHellbring | I'd love to get a nice 37" 1080p lcd |
| 04:44.09 | Hoochster | heh I understand all that |
| 04:44.33 | AstainHellbring | would be a hell of an upgrade from my current 24" crt |
| 04:44.44 | karafa | anyone around who can help me with installing android on ext2? |
| 04:46.01 | Hoochster | heh AstainHellbring get you a projector they are more fun! and good for the 360 heh |
| 04:46.20 | AstainHellbring | lol |
| 04:46.29 | Hoochster | I have one in my office |
| 04:46.35 | AstainHellbring | yah projectors are fun but I dont have wall space to project onto |
| 04:46.38 | Hoochster | 100" diag screen |
| 04:46.49 | Hoochster | you can go as big or small as you want it. at least that is what she said |
| 04:47.02 | AstainHellbring | lol |
| 04:47.09 | AstainHellbring | also renting current place |
| 04:47.36 | Hoochster | no biggie when I first got my pj, I ran it on a good quality thread white sheet |
| 04:47.47 | Hoochster | I finally got a good screen and it was cheap on amazon |
| 04:47.58 | Hoochster | you can run the pj off a table |
| 04:48.04 | Hoochster | I hung mine but since you rent |
| 04:48.20 | AstainHellbring | lol nice |
| 04:48.33 | ToAsTcfh | anyone know anythiing about removing a watermark? |
| 04:49.01 | Hoochster | got my pj when I got my first 360 heh, couldn't have a 360 without HD heh |
| 04:49.32 | AstainHellbring | yah my poor ps3 has to be played without hd |
| 04:49.38 | Hoochster | heh |
| 04:49.47 | AstainHellbring | biggest problem with pj is 1080p pj is very $$$ |
| 04:49.51 | Hoochster | that's ok, my ps3 just sits under the tv and looks pretty lol, |
| 04:50.19 | AstainHellbring | lol me loves my ps3 |
| 04:50.44 | Hoochster | you don't need 1080p, ya a high dollar pj would be nicer I am sure, but I got one from Sams wanna say it was like $800 or so at the time way back when, and it does 1024x768 or simulated 1080i, but it looks plenty pretty! |
| 04:50.56 | Hoochster | got the ps3 when I got my tv heh |
| 04:51.22 | AstainHellbring | yah my inlaws have a similar one does 720p 1080i |
| 04:51.24 | Hoochster | was one of those get so much off a BR player with the purchase, and that was when ALL br players were $399, so I figured either $399 for a normal one or $399 for a PS3, bonus heh |
| 04:51.39 | Hoochster | son liked it heh, he loves 360 more but he is a MGS fan heh so it came with MGS4 |
| 04:51.51 | Hoochster | ya mine does the 720p |
| 04:52.02 | Hoochster | but I find native 1024x768 in Widescreen mode looks better overall |
| 04:52.22 | Hoochster | and seriously it is worth it, I am sure a more $$ one would be better but it is just my office so didn't need much heh |
| 04:52.33 | Hoochster | I can tell a diff on darks and such on my TV in the living room |
| 04:52.45 | Hoochster | but it cost a little over twice as much too heh |
| 04:53.20 | AstainHellbring | yah for my setup a 37" is what should fit about perfectly in my entertainment center |
| 04:53.30 | Hoochster | understood |
| 04:53.55 | Hoochster | watch Woot.com and Sellout.com they have some good TV's occasionally. |
| 04:54.05 | Hoochster | obviously Samsung or something would be ideal but they def will cost ya more |
| 04:54.10 | Hoochster | but they have Panasonic and such a lot |
| 04:54.19 | AstainHellbring | yah hell I'm looking at getting a vizio atm |
| 04:54.26 | Hoochster | they are fine |
| 04:54.30 | Hoochster | from what I hear at least heh |
| 04:54.35 | Hoochster | I have considered one many times |
| 04:54.39 | AstainHellbring | yah seem fine from what I see in the stores |
| 04:54.49 | Hoochster | I need a new TV for our Family room, it is an old tube tv |
| 04:54.50 | AstainHellbring | as long as I am willing to take the time to tweak it a bit should be fine |
| 04:54.55 | Hoochster | thinking 42in in there |
| 04:55.16 | Hoochster | if you don't have anything HD now, anything you get is going to be wonderful no doubt |
| 04:55.29 | AstainHellbring | got a 21.5" pc monitor that does 1080p in my bedroom with a sony 5.1 surround sound system |
| 04:55.57 | Hoochster | nice |
| 04:56.25 | Hoochster | ya I have a Dell 21" Widescreen in our bedroom I would like to have a little larger, our room is decent size and that is ok but bigger would be a little better there heh |
| 04:56.56 | AstainHellbring | works well for the bedroom I got the surround sound system for $50 cause of no remote or cables harmony fixed remote and I made my own cables with better guage wire than stock would have been |
| 04:57.07 | Hoochster | nice |
| 04:57.56 | Hoochster | I had a nice SS rx but it finally crapped out on me. Brought one from my parents house that they no longer use, but it has no hdmi input or anything so wondering if I wanna mess with it or just use it in my shop for music heh |
| 04:58.12 | AstainHellbring | yah I'm happy just need to replace the living room tv and I'll be happy for a bit |
| 04:58.14 | AstainHellbring | SS rx? |
| 04:58.25 | Hoochster | Surround Sound Receiver heh sorry |
| 04:58.54 | AstainHellbring | ahh nice |
| 04:59.24 | Hoochster | It is a Sony DTS. I might hook it up till I decide to do something else, I do miss it, I have SS in my office, running a Creative Labs ohh can't remember model but it handles the SS decoding and outputting to a Logitech Sound system heh. works pretty good. |
| 05:01.02 | Hoochster | just to give you an idea of some of the deals on Woot: http://mywoot.net/past/details.php?id=2247 |
| 05:01.13 | Hoochster | that was from a bit back but wasn't a bad deal |
| 05:01.28 | AstainHellbring | damn nice deal there |
| 05:01.37 | AstainHellbring | seems like I typically end up missing out on those |
| 05:01.50 | Hoochster | so keep an eye on it, I use wooters.us it has a link to check all of the woot sites |
| 05:01.56 | Hoochster | changes daily if you aren't familiar with them |
| 05:02.06 | Hoochster | I never miss out on them I just never have money to spend on em lol |
| 05:02.09 | AstainHellbring | yah I am subscribed to woots rss feed |
| 05:02.27 | Hoochster | I have the wooters.us mobile app installed on the phone heh |
| 05:03.23 | AstainHellbring | nice |
| 05:03.48 | Hoochster | aight I feel like we are hijacking the channel with TV talk heh. should use your chan for that lol |
| 05:03.54 | AstainHellbring | lol go for it |
| 05:04.21 | Hoochster | was getting stoked, MrPippy was working on the RIL for the TP2 CDMA heh |
| 05:04.29 | Hoochster | looked like he was finding some files to compare |
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| 05:12.49 | aatreya | do you remember what the problem was? |
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| 05:25.49 | tehtrk_home | Sweet, just found the thread posted by cyanogen for e2fsprogs |
| 05:26.22 | tehtrk_home | it seems I'm not the only one nervous about having to reset a device running on ext2 filesystem |
| 05:32.57 | karafa | anyone know why i get a kernel panic when I use haret to boot android from an ext2 partition? |
| 05:33.03 | karafa | something about 'tried to kill init' |
| 05:36.34 | tehtrk_home | what size sdcard? |
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| 05:37.42 | karafa | 2 gigs |
| 05:37.47 | karafa | partitioned in half |
| 05:39.13 | tehtrk_home | make sure your card reader is seeing the card as 2gb and not 1gb |
| 05:39.27 | karafa | it is. shows up as 1.9 |
| 05:39.30 | karafa | i'm on osx |
| 05:39.37 | karafa | it's got ext2 support installed |
| 05:39.48 | karafa | formatting and partitioning go fine in disk utility |
| 05:39.53 | tehtrk_home | k, I can't remember what caused that issue for me |
| 05:40.00 | karafa | reading/writing all good |
| 05:40.07 | karafa | maybe it just wasnt unmounted properly |
| 05:40.12 | tehtrk_home | I thought it was the card reader issue but that may not have been the case |
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| 06:05.46 | karafa | I'm having a hell of a time getting this booting on ext2 |
| 06:05.48 | tehtrk_home | can someone tell me what the difference is between the .nbh files? I see files named KAISIMG-PANEL1-428.NBH and KAISIMG-PANEL1-480.NBH all with the same date on sourceforge |
| 06:07.36 | tehtrk_home | oh nvm, got it, different displays ( I had a hunch ) ... now to determine what I have :) |
| 06:08.00 | tehtrk_home | and bam, if anyone cares: http://www.androidonhtc.com/boot_options#board-htckaiser.panel_type |
| 06:13.27 | goxboxlive | hi, what is the web site for comparing mobile phone? It's something db.com |
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| 07:19.43 | mcdull | phh, if you asked about the adb fix by Glossy Theme v1.9, it is actually the edit of eclair.user.conf and change the usb to single interface. So it will break linux adb. |
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| 08:22.02 | goxboxlive | kiozen: are you there? |
| 08:22.31 | goxboxlive | Do you remeber the databae where all the phones are listed, where we can compare phones to eachother? |
| 08:26.27 | kiozen | goxboxlive: yes |
| 08:26.48 | kiozen | hm, wait... |
| 08:28.15 | kiozen | goxboxlive: wasn't it that anadux site? |
| 08:28.19 | kiozen | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Xanadux |
| 08:28.57 | kiozen | or handhelds org |
| 08:30.39 | kiozen | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/FrontPage?action=show&redirect=StartSeite |
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| 09:05.25 | goxboxlive | kiozen: no, it's a big webiste whohass all phones in their database. In example, htc, iphone, google you nake it. |
| 09:05.39 | goxboxlive | name |
| 09:05.59 | goxboxlive | i got the page from cr2 a long time ago |
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| 11:00.08 | goxboxlive | BabelO: are you there? |
| 11:02.01 | BabelO | goxboxlive: yes but only few minutes before lunch :) |
| 11:02.03 | BabelO | what happen |
| 11:06.37 | goxboxlive | Hi BabelO, do you remeber the website with all the phones. The one you can compare phones to eachother? |
| 11:06.53 | goxboxlive | I just bought a new phone, i am going to outsort my iPhone |
| 11:07.00 | goxboxlive | Google Nexus One :-) |
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| 11:25.57 | goxboxlive | forget it, i got it pdadb.net |
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| 11:40.15 | Captnoord | [ 3.395782] GetBatteryIDDetection, batt_id_kohm = 339 |
| 11:40.16 | Captnoord | [ 3.402038] GetBatteryIDDetection, vendor = 2, capacity: 1340 |
| 11:40.17 | Captnoord | whooo |
| 11:40.20 | Captnoord | totaly owned |
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| 13:56.56 | stamppot | Question: on a HTC diamond, when the USB is not connected during bootup, it is not possible to enter USB mode in android afterwards. It will detect charger state, but it does not infer that a USB cable is connected to the device |
| 13:57.28 | stamppot | Would it be hard to fix this, as in: are we dependent on the state of a GPIO during bootup, as set by WinCE? |
| 13:57.35 | Captnoord | usb init is not perfect yet |
| 13:57.56 | Captnoord | and I think its hard to fix |
| 13:58.02 | Captnoord | everything that is left is hard to fix.... |
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| 13:58.15 | stamppot | Captnoord: do you have a pointer to the source? |
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| 13:58.49 | Captnoord | 0xAE27BED1 |
| 13:59.00 | Captnoord | or you mean somewhere to start |
| 13:59.01 | Captnoord | :P |
| 13:59.06 | stamppot | :-P |
| 13:59.19 | Captnoord | je bent nederlands toch? |
| 13:59.25 | stamppot | Klopt. |
| 13:59.31 | Captnoord | dan pm k je ff |
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| 14:22.31 | Wout | nog meer nederlanders hier? :P |
| 14:31.54 | FuZi0n | hier nederlander |
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| 14:43.51 | sowfeast | hi all. what's the latest on usb dev for the leo? is it working yet? |
| 14:44.05 | sowfeast | irq issues the last i looked... |
| 14:45.54 | Captnoord | lol |
| 14:46.07 | Captnoord | leo is very very early on the development roadmap |
| 14:46.08 | Captnoord | give it time |
| 14:46.09 | Captnoord | :P |
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| 15:00.53 | Captnoord | hehe |
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| 15:08.37 | NeoMatrixJR | Same problem as yesterday: mounted a rootfs.img file and I'm trying to copy everything out of it into a folder on a linux box to examine it. cp -rf <mount folder> <new folder> keeps giving me a bunch of 'cp: cannot create symbolic link '<filename>': Operation not supported. |
| 15:08.38 | NeoMatrixJR | yesterday was on fat32...today I'm on NTFS. Same issue |
| 15:34.11 | makkonen | neomatrixjr: try cp -a |
| 15:34.44 | makkonen | though I'm not really sure if ntfs supports all that jazz either. |
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| 15:40.59 | balsat | NeoMatrixJR , Why ntfs on a linux box? |
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| 15:57.53 | chamonix | hey guys |
| 15:59.13 | Markinus | hi |
| 15:59.14 | nemasu | hmm, how do you go about making an initrd for a different arch? |
| 15:59.22 | nemasu | hi |
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| 16:01.18 | phh | [23:45:28] <Alka> phh: will be rhod tilt2 mapped "CTRL" to OK key <---- I have to find how we are supposed to do that... with android it's always hard. |
| 16:04.44 | Captnoord | phh I think the irq inbalance comes from navi... you pressing the power button to make it awake |
| 16:04.58 | Captnoord | possible it only registers the trigger up |
| 16:05.06 | Captnoord | causing the inbalance |
| 16:05.12 | phh | oh wait |
| 16:05.14 | phh | they are inbalance ? |
| 16:05.18 | phh | I thaught they were only slow pathes |
| 16:05.39 | Captnoord | [ 161.992767] Unbalanced enable for IRQ 158 |
| 16:05.39 | Captnoord | [ 161.992797] Modules linked in: |
| 16:05.39 | Captnoord | [ 161.992828] [<c023963c>] (dump_stack+0x0/0x14) from [<c00560c8>] (warn_slowpath+0x64/0x80) |
| 16:05.39 | Captnoord | [ 161.992950] [<c0056064>] (warn_slowpath+0x0/0x80) from [<c007fd9c>] (__enable_irq+0x3c/0x6c) |
| 16:05.50 | Captnoord | [ 161.993225] [<c0080138>] (enable_irq+0x0/0x6c) from [<c0044bd0>] (navi_resume+0x48/0x50) |
| 16:05.50 | Captnoord | [ 161.993286] r5:00000000 r4:00000003 |
| 16:05.50 | Captnoord | [ 161.993316] [<c0044b88>] (navi_resume+0x0/0x50) from [<c007da74>] (late_resume+0xc4/0x11c) |
| 16:05.52 | Captnoord | maybe |
| 16:05.53 | NeoMatrixJR | makkonen, balsat: thanks for the suggestions but I found the problem. I had mounted a folder via VMWare's shared folder option so it was actually a VMHGFS |
| 16:05.58 | Captnoord | I don't know if it really matters |
| 16:06.01 | Captnoord | just mentioning it |
| 16:06.24 | phh | [23:52:59] <Captnoord> the battery has a internal limit of 150 mA <--- noway, full use of wifi makes more than that. if you had TV on wifi, it would just not work |
| 16:06.47 | Captnoord | yea |
| 16:06.50 | Captnoord | your correct |
| 16:07.12 | Captnoord | it has something todo with the charging system of wince |
| 16:07.15 | Captnoord | limiting the power |
| 16:07.35 | Captnoord | btw I enabled mmc powerdown... |
| 16:07.38 | Captnoord | and it works |
| 16:09.07 | phh | [01:33:01] <MrPippy> hmm /system/lib has libhtc_ril.so (a giant file) and libhtcgeneric-ril.so <-------- inspite of the rild.libpath, we use libhtcgeneric-ril.so, libhtc_ril.so is the RIL from android devices (useful to see how to fix some broken stuff) |
| 16:10.21 | phh | [06:19:30] <aatreya> phh: A while back you added a commit to htc-ril to fix a problem with +/00 dialing <---- no sorry :/ read the commit message+patch. If that still doesn't help, ask me again and I'll try to understand |
| 16:10.37 | phh | [08:26:31] <mcdull> phh, if you asked about the adb fix by Glossy Theme v1.9, it is actually the edit of eclair.user.conf and change the usb to single interface. So it will break linux adb. <---- thanks |
| 16:11.25 | phh | NeoMatrixJR: only damn recent NTFS has symlink |
| 16:11.29 | phh | I don't think linux handles it. |
| 16:11.53 | phh | Captnoord: vreg powerdown ? clock powerdown ? |
| 16:12.10 | Captnoord | vreg |
| 16:19.23 | phh | you have a gitorious account ? |
| 16:19.29 | phh | you have so many things to commit these days :po |
| 16:25.00 | Wout | phh: thx for adding the keyboard layouts |
| 16:25.06 | phh | it works ? |
| 16:25.36 | Wout | well, I saw that someone added it to the latest rootfs in the thread on xda, I'm using that one |
| 16:25.41 | Wout | but I assume your commit does the same? |
| 16:29.16 | phh | I added its keymaps, but don't know if I did it correctly, I changed the init script on my own |
| 16:30.00 | Wout | this one works |
| 16:30.01 | Wout | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5780830&postcount=1126 |
| 16:30.18 | Wout | so if you want to be sure, you could check that rootfs to see if you commit is the same |
| 16:39.54 | NeoMatrixJR | anyone know much about editing the system.sqsh file? Is it possible to unsquish/edit/resquish or mount and edit this? |
| 16:40.25 | phh | it's *squash* not squish |
| 16:40.29 | phh | and yes it's possible |
| 16:40.37 | phh | search for unsquashfs and mksquashfs |
| 16:42.06 | [acl] | lol squish |
| 16:42.37 | [acl] | install squashfs-tools in ubuntu and you should be able to unsquash the goodies |
| 16:43.07 | NeoMatrixJR | well..once you squish something it's squashed. I've never heard of someone squashing something...english != computer |
| 16:43.27 | chamonix | lol |
| 16:43.27 | NeoMatrixJR | I think?...or I'm crazy...or something :S |
| 16:43.35 | phh | who cares about english ? :D |
| 16:43.42 | chamonix | right |
| 16:43.45 | chamonix | :) |
| 16:44.12 | chamonix | <= phh> chamonix: you're trying the whole day @ 19.2MHz ? <-- actuall 420 for now, stepping down each day |
| 16:44.26 | phh | chamonix: ok |
| 16:44.30 | phh | chamonix: it changes anything ? |
| 16:44.33 | makkonen | neomatrixjr: I'm going to say you're crazy. people squash things all the time. |
| 16:45.04 | phh | on topaz' android thread, some peoples worry because we had no kernel commit in the last 2 days. |
| 16:45.10 | [acl] | NeoMatrixJR: Here is a link where you can download the one that allows you to re-squash everything. http://htcandroid.xland.cz/squashfs-tools_3.3-7_i386.deb |
| 16:45.22 | Wout | phh: could it be that androids clock runs slightly slower than it should? |
| 16:45.29 | chamonix | phh: 420 does not change responsiveness after boot.... the first minute is really slow tho..... I couldn't notice any effect on battery yet and I don't blieve there will be any |
| 16:45.31 | phh | Wout: uh ? |
| 16:45.35 | NeoMatrixJR | ok, ran unsquash, but a number of files were skipped. http://pastebin.com/cC6syFxu |
| 16:45.53 | phh | NeoMatrixJR: permission denied |
| 16:45.55 | phh | sounds explicit. |
| 16:45.56 | NeoMatrixJR | [acl] do I need to get that to have a specific version |
| 16:45.59 | Wout | phh: I noticed yesterday that the clock was running a few mins behind at the end of the day |
| 16:46.05 | NeoMatrixJR | ran as sudo |
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| 16:46.24 | phh | Wout: yeah timers have always been a tough issue, that's why we rely on RIL :p |
| 16:46.31 | chamonix | Wout: that's rather due to poor cmos clock and OS relying on the network operators to hide that |
| 16:46.33 | Wout | and I'm pretty sure that it was running on time when I booted |
| 16:46.48 | Wout | is there anything I can do about that settings wise? |
| 16:46.59 | chamonix | Wout: I' m working on ntpd |
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| 16:47.18 | chamonix | for ppl who have poor operators like be not sending time |
| 16:47.21 | Wout | ok, cool :) |
| 16:47.30 | chamonix | poor operator = vodafone |
| 16:47.41 | chamonix | NATed IPs and no clock |
| 16:48.16 | NeoMatrixJR | phh: would there be some kind of permission in the system.sqsh file? I ran the unsquash as sudo and got that permission denied. don't know what more I can do |
| 16:48.17 | nemasu | so, ive noticed the initrd im currently using for my htc device is basically busybox i think, how did they do that? just grab bb source and cross compile? |
| 16:48.18 | makkonen | my operator sends time... maybe not often enough, but it sends it... still goes off in android after a day. and I don't know any manual way in android to update from the network. |
| 16:48.26 | phh | NeoMatrixJR: oO |
| 16:48.36 | phh | makkonen: uh ? |
| 16:48.40 | chamonix | nemasu: yes |
| 16:48.41 | phh | AFAIK it's the default setting |
| 16:48.52 | chamonix | I did it for dropbear e.g. |
| 16:48.58 | [acl] | NeoMatrixJR: I think all the files by default are owned by root. You should be able to modify anything |
| 16:49.03 | makkonen | yeah, it updates on boot from the network. |
| 16:49.49 | makkonen | but it still eventually lags behind. |
| 16:50.47 | phh | makkonen: maybe we don't know how to do that on cdma ? |
| 16:50.59 | makkonen | hmm. I guess that's possible. |
| 16:51.10 | chamonix | ntpd is trick to compile so I tried with bb but it's old protocol and I can't seem to find any server supporting it anymore |
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| 16:51.55 | phh | wow. |
| 16:52.02 | makkonen | I'm pretty sure it is doing it on boot, though. i.e. when network time is enabled, it boots up with the correct time, when it's off, my clock ends up 6 hours off (since I'm in GMT-6) |
| 16:52.05 | phh | make states that one of my source files is not recognized |
| 16:52.07 | phh | a C file. |
| 16:52.17 | phh | and the file command states it's a C file... |
| 16:52.20 | phh | what the hell could that be ? |
| 16:52.32 | phh | makkonen: hum ok |
| 16:52.50 | phh | I think there are some sleeps command we do only on gsm and not cdma |
| 16:53.20 | aatreya | phh: i read the patch you mentioned |
| 16:53.34 | phh | aatreya: and still not explicit ? |
| 16:53.39 | aatreya | it seems like it was trying to swap "+" for 00 in the dialer string |
| 16:53.52 | NeoMatrixJR | [acl]: looks like all the files aren't owned by root. I dumped the .sqsh file to my local linux disk instead of my VMWare share (again with the VM pain) and it all dumped just fine. I went and checked the files that missed before and they're owned by user '1001' or '1002' or etc... |
| 16:53.55 | aatreya | the reason i ask is that on the RAPH800, we can't dial any number that starts with a + sign |
| 16:53.59 | aatreya | it fails immediately |
| 16:54.04 | aatreya | it works fine without the + |
| 16:54.08 | aatreya | same for SMS |
| 16:54.19 | phh | aatreya: and what about 00 ? |
| 16:54.24 | aatreya | let me try |
| 16:54.45 | phh | it just properly replaces "+" with 00 |
| 16:55.18 | phh | NeoMatrixJR: why using a VM ? |
| 16:55.28 | aatreya | 00 doesn't fail at the RIL level, but the network gives a voice error message |
| 16:55.32 | [acl] | NeoMatrixJR: well as root you should be able to mod anything. Make sure you use version of 3.3 of squashfs-tools if you are going to resquash. The latest version uses a compression not supported by the kernel. |
| 16:55.43 | phh | [acl]: then this won't be the fix for youi |
| 16:55.53 | phh | aatreya: maybe just try to remove this '+' check |
| 16:55.54 | aatreya | could we add some code to remove the + sign if the number starts with +1? |
| 16:56.05 | phh | aatreya: just removing it works ?!? |
| 16:56.06 | aatreya | I think it's tied to US network routing |
| 16:56.09 | aatreya | yeah |
| 16:56.13 | aatreya | it works fine without the + |
| 16:56.13 | phh | ?!? |
| 16:56.37 | aatreya | I have no idea why |
| 16:56.41 | phh | like calling just 33606656706 works ? |
| 16:56.44 | chamonix | -sudo unsquashfs system.sqsh |
| 16:56.44 | chamonix | -make changes |
| 16:56.44 | chamonix | -sudo mv ./squashfs-root ./system |
| 16:56.44 | chamonix | -sudo genext2fs -d ./system -b 100000 -a system.ext2 |
| 16:56.44 | chamonix | -mkdir ext2mount |
| 16:56.46 | chamonix | -sudo mount -o loop ./system.ext2 ./ext2mount |
| 16:56.49 | chamonix | -sudo mksquashfs ./ext2mount newsystem.sqsh |
| 16:57.09 | aatreya | dialing 1-123-555-1212 works |
| 16:57.21 | phh | aatreya: it's outside the US ? |
| 16:57.27 | aatreya | that number is inside the us |
| 16:57.38 | aatreya | have a good international number i should try? |
| 16:57.46 | phh | the number I gave should work :p |
| 16:57.48 | aatreya | k |
| 16:57.52 | chamonix | lol phh |
| 16:57.56 | phh | and yes, AFAIK the + is supposed to be for internal calls |
| 16:58.23 | phh | I don't really know much about phone stuff though. |
| 16:58.34 | phh | stupid make. |
| 16:58.41 | phh | ah no |
| 16:58.42 | phh | stupid me |
| 16:58.55 | phh | it won't generate a ".c" file from a ".c" file. |
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| 16:58.59 | phh | only .o. |
| 16:59.08 | chamonix | back in the 80s some operator were not supporting the ISO prefix + as intl prefix, it's part of the spec tho |
| 16:59.32 | phh | chamonix: is '+' supposed to be the same thing as '00' ? |
| 16:59.35 | NeoMatrixJR | chamonix: so I can't just mksquashfs from the folder, I have to genext2fs first? |
| 16:59.46 | phh | NeoMatrixJR: no |
| 16:59.52 | phh | genext2fs is just for chamonix's fun |
| 16:59.55 | chamonix | well as long as the country u are in is using 00 yes phh, back in the 80s france e.g. didn't |
| 16:59.56 | phh | or to have RW system |
| 17:00.07 | phh | chamonix: ah 00 doesn't work everywhere ? |
| 17:00.08 | aatreya | phh: Just looked this up online |
| 17:00.21 | aatreya | in the US, the "+" sign is equivalent to "011" |
| 17:00.40 | phh | aatreya: and in the US '+' means something else than international call ? |
| 17:00.49 | chamonix | NeoMatrixJR: I dunno if it work some other way but as I pasted it it works as long as you have "old" sqfs implementation |
| 17:00.52 | aatreya | the problem is, dialing any US phone number starting with 011 fails - they must be dialed without any international code whatsoever |
| 17:01.00 | aatreya | in the US, + means international call |
| 17:01.04 | [acl] | NeoMatrixJR: I think thats the recommended method. At least its recommended on xda somewhere. But i managed to just do without it with no issues. |
| 17:01.04 | aatreya | just like everywhere else |
| 17:01.25 | phh | aatreya: "international" means interstate or intercountry ? |
| 17:01.29 | aatreya | it's just that + gets translated at some level to the international access code for the local country |
| 17:01.31 | aatreya | intercountry |
| 17:02.02 | aatreya | aka, if i use my phone in europe, i should be able to dial +1-555-555-1212 to dial a US number |
| 17:02.18 | aatreya | and i should be able to use the exact same string to dial that same number from anywhere else in the world |
| 17:02.29 | aatreya | but the way it is translated by the network may be different |
| 17:02.34 | phh | ok |
| 17:02.41 | phh | dump wince's at command, and compare with what we do |
| 17:02.54 | aatreya | good idea |
| 17:02.58 | aatreya | i don't know how to do that, though |
| 17:03.10 | phh | there is a register setting somewhere |
| 17:03.29 | phh | or you can use haret, see the wiki to know which memory address to dump |
| 17:03.49 | aatreya | um - makkonen, do you know how to do this? |
| 17:04.05 | chamonix | phh: no http://www.multilingualbooks.com/countrycodes.html |
| 17:04.30 | makkonen | I do not, unfortunately. |
| 17:05.21 | phh | chamonix: most countries do 00 |
| 17:05.23 | phh | I'll keep it :D |
| 17:05.30 | phh | (me lazy ? noway.) |
| 17:05.52 | makkonen | what baffles me is that my phone, in the US, on Sprint, dials + before all Google Voice calls, and it works fine. |
| 17:05.54 | aatreya | from that page, it seems the USA and Canada do things differently from everywhere else |
| 17:06.11 | aatreya | makkonen: I have the exact same situation, but it doesn't work for me |
| 17:06.17 | chamonix | phh: sure |
| 17:06.21 | makkonen | yeah. that's the baffling part. |
| 17:06.31 | phh | so there are 4 bluetooth gpios |
| 17:06.44 | phh | which have more or less meanings, and which meaning isn't easy. |
| 17:06.48 | makkonen | I wonder if it's something on the carrier's backend. like if you have international calling set up through sprint or something. |
| 17:06.49 | aatreya | phh: could we add a check in the code to drop the + sign if the number starts with +1 (USA/Can) |
| 17:06.51 | phh | I think I'll just roll a dice. |
| 17:07.02 | aatreya | makkonen: Called sprint. no dice. |
| 17:07.17 | makkonen | ...well then I'm out of ideas. |
| 17:07.32 | aatreya | makkonen: Here's the weird part. In winmo, if you turn off "plus code dialing", then it fails just like in android. |
| 17:07.44 | phh | aatreya: non-US/Can won't be able to call US/Canada if we do ... |
| 17:07.45 | makkonen | huh. |
| 17:07.52 | aatreya | problem is, i have no idea what "plus code dialing" means. |
| 17:07.58 | aatreya | (it's an option in the phone settings in Winmo |
| 17:08.04 | makkonen | well, that sounds like an awesome A/B test for what to do to the AT commands. |
| 17:08.06 | phh | aatreya: dump AT cmds with and without it :p |
| 17:08.10 | phh | makkonen: :) |
| 17:08.13 | aatreya | phh: oh, right. |
| 17:08.35 | makkonen | I just don't remember how to get the at command log. |
| 17:09.24 | phh | pfw ATcmds 0x1ff0000 0x800 |
| 17:09.46 | aatreya | makkonen: if you get a chance, can you try that option in winmo and see if you have the issue? I can't understand why it magically works for you |
| 17:11.11 | makkonen | what do you want me to test? manually entering a + in winmo? |
| 17:11.34 | aatreya | makkonen: dial some number with +1-areacode-phonenum, with and without "plus code dialing" enable |
| 17:11.35 | aatreya | d |
| 17:12.18 | Captnoord | re |
| 17:12.18 | makkonen | works both ways |
| 17:12.35 | aatreya | wow; that's crazy |
| 17:12.50 | aatreya | what area code are you in? |
| 17:12.52 | phh | loves cdma |
| 17:12.54 | makkonen | 512 |
| 17:13.21 | aatreya | well, at least that explains why it works in android |
| 17:13.27 | makkonen | yeah |
| 17:13.52 | phh | makkonen: now see what the "plus code dialing" does |
| 17:14.10 | makkonen | yeah, alright |
| 17:14.15 | phh | unless you have a different ril/radio depending on your area -_-' |
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| 17:33.00 | Wout | phh: does android in any way influence the quality of reception? or is that all done by the radio? |
| 17:33.45 | phh | haha |
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| 17:33.50 | phh | not sure |
| 17:34.01 | Reefermattness | Hi guys |
| 17:34.49 | Wout | getting the feeling that reception on winmo is better in some places |
| 17:35.04 | Captnoord | mine is better on android |
| 17:35.08 | Captnoord | lot clearer |
| 17:35.25 | Wout | ok, maybe just imagining things |
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| 17:35.44 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 17:35.49 | Captnoord | its all how we feel stuff |
| 17:36.03 | makkonen | neat. the atdbglog function in winmo works. no need for haret. |
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| 17:38.29 | makkonen | 11:28:26 Tx:ATD15125531551;\r |
| 17:38.29 | makkonen | 11:28:59 Tx:ATD+15125531551;\r |
| 17:38.45 | makkonen | ...not a super interesting result. |
| 17:38.52 | tehtrk | OK please forgive my ignorance, but is there any information about or screenshots of the different resolutions in the various .nbh files on the android HTC sourceforge page? |
| 17:38.55 | Wout | just put haret link in my winmo startup folder, goodbye winmo! |
| 17:39.50 | NeoMatrixJR | ok, I'm a little confused. Both the rootfs.img and the system.sqsh have a /lib/libhtcgeneric-ril.so. which one gets used and why? |
| 17:40.08 | phh | NeoMatrixJR: system |
| 17:40.28 | makkonen | north american dialing enabled: no +. disabled: yes +. |
| 17:40.30 | tehtrk | I've obviously picked the wrong one (320 , type1) for my kais100. It has artifacts all over the place, but surely there's some info. Trial and error sucks with this many differentnbh's |
| 17:41.09 | [acl] | NeoMatrixJR: bloated rootfs? |
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| 17:42.45 | nemasu | charmonix: thanks! |
| 17:43.04 | makkonen | tehtrk: I assume all you need to try are the 3 different panel types. the resolution should not introduce artifacts, just change the apparent resolution of the screen. |
| 17:43.33 | NeoMatrixJR | [acl]: I only pretend to know what i'm doing. I'm just hacking up XDANDROID and 95-civic's remix to get everything I want out of it. |
| 17:43.45 | makkonen | tehtrk: of course, I could be completely wrong about all that. |
| 17:43.56 | Reefermattness | anyone in here good with VS2008? :) |
| 17:45.05 | NeoMatrixJR | I think I checked on this before, but updating the zImage and modules doesn't require re-creating the data.img does it? |
| 17:45.14 | phh | NeoMatrixJR: no |
| 17:45.21 | NeoMatrixJR | phh: thanks |
| 17:45.21 | [acl] | NeoMatrixJR: i did the same in the past. But it broke during the last wifi enabled kernel. Something about the libhardware_legacy that my old system.sqsh didnt like. |
| 17:46.15 | NeoMatrixJR | [acl]: I think I have a theory on why updating the zImage/modules in civic's build is breaking...but I'll need to test |
| 17:46.18 | tehtrk | makkonen: damn, so maybe it has to do with the opengl hw accel. in the polymod that I have |
| 17:47.36 | makkonen | I have no idea |
| 17:48.38 | NeoMatrixJR | [acl]: when you update civic's zImage/modules, do you rename either of the files or the startup.txt? |
| 17:50.10 | [acl] | NeoMatrixJR: the startup should point to the zimage files you are using. I always try to use the glemson autobuilds since they get updated more often and it lets us send feedback to the kernel gurs. |
| 17:50.43 | makkonen | such useful feedback. :-p |
| 17:51.03 | [acl] | lol .. we try. |
| 17:51.11 | tehtrk | I think I need to try panel type 3 |
| 17:51.47 | makkonen | I shouldn't be mean. there is useful feedback there. usually of the 'holy shit everything's broken' variety. there's just also a lot of not useful feedback. |
| 18:08.58 | phh | wow. |
| 18:09.08 | phh | there are two bluetooth rfkill on samsung I7500. |
| 18:09.42 | phh | and both are registered *and* used |
| 18:10.34 | NeoMatrixJR | need to re-do data.img for upgraded rootfs.img? |
| 18:11.01 | phh | ..... |
| 18:11.10 | phh | only major system/rootfs updates needs new data.img |
| 18:11.21 | NeoMatrixJR | what is considered major? |
| 18:11.23 | phh | basically, if it crashes, change your data.img. |
| 18:11.33 | NeoMatrixJR | ok |
| 18:12.20 | [acl] | NeoMatrixJR: So what did you change out of Civics image? the generic ril he built? |
| 18:13.31 | NeoMatrixJR | so far all I've changed that's working is added the correct sensors .so file from system.sqsh from XDA latest to his to get the gsensor working. |
| 18:13.45 | NeoMatrixJR | I'm still working on looking at other stuff |
| 18:13.51 | phh | NeoMatrixJR: civic's image don't even have gsensor ... ? |
| 18:14.00 | NeoMatrixJR | has it, but it don't work |
| 18:14.11 | phh | ok an old one if you want. |
| 18:14.16 | NeoMatrixJR | yeah |
| 18:14.27 | phh | what's the point of doing a whole new build if you don't maintain it ... |
| 18:14.43 | NeoMatrixJR | to learn! |
| 18:15.04 | NeoMatrixJR | this all is helping me understand how the builds are set up and actually run |
| 18:15.07 | phh | NeoMatrixJR: I'm talking about civic's one. |
| 18:15.44 | NeoMatrixJR | oh. I dunno. I think he'd maintain it if he had the time. As it is he only seems to sign on about once a month. |
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| 18:16.05 | NeoMatrixJR | from what I can tell so far all of his changes are compiled into the libhtcgeneric-ril.so |
| 18:16.08 | phh | then why don't he just give his sources .. |
| 18:16.13 | NeoMatrixJR | too bad we can't decompile it. |
| 18:16.25 | NeoMatrixJR | dunno. I've asked for them multiple times |
| 18:16.50 | makkonen | he said he'd send them to me... but I don't know if he's been on since then. |
| 18:17.25 | NeoMatrixJR | last time he was on was like 2/27 or 2/28. (right before RHOD gsensor fixes) |
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| 18:18.14 | phh | hi MrPippy |
| 18:18.26 | MrPippy | hi |
| 18:19.56 | [acl] | MrPippy: quick question.. the libhardware_legacy.so you compiled for the rhod. Is the source available somewhere? |
| 18:22.00 | MrPippy | i didn't change the source, just compiled it with different defines: i did make -j5 WIFI_DRIVER_MODULE_PATH=/system/lib/modules/bcm4329.ko WIFI_DRIVER_MODULE_ARG='firmware_path=/etc/wifi/bcm432x/bcm4325-rtecdc.bin\ nvram_path=/data/wifi-nvram.txt' WIFI_DRIVER_MODULE_NAME=bcm4329 |
| 18:22.15 | [acl] | this was in the boardconfig? |
| 18:22.32 | phh | MrPippy: ho, that's all ? |
| 18:22.51 | phh | you could have tried doing it properly with a single libhardware_legacy ... but well. |
| 18:22.54 | [acl] | i did the same but my file was no where near the same size as yours .. maybe i missed something |
| 18:24.10 | phh | MrPippy: seeing rhod's gpio entries, I'd bet wifi oob irq is 92. |
| 18:24.38 | MrPippy | have you ever seen that fire? |
| 18:24.43 | phh | no :( |
| 18:24.52 | phh | does wince handles in any way, wifi while in sleep ? |
| 18:26.05 | phh | I've seen such an option, but I don't think wince sleeps with it |
| 18:26.48 | aatreya | makkonen: can you tell me how you extracted the AT commands? I can try it on my device and see if i get the same result |
| 18:26.55 | stinebd | in my experience with raph, it either stays awake with screen off or shuts down wifi before sleeping |
| 18:27.18 | MrPippy | yeah i think rhod wince turns off wifi on sleep, it always takes a little while to restart |
| 18:27.18 | phh | stinebd: there is an option in registry for BCM driver to let it stay alive |
| 18:27.22 | aatreya | in my case, enabled: dialing +1-xxx-xxx-xxxx works; disabled: fails with a loud beep |
| 18:27.53 | makkonen | aatreya: get a registry editor, go to HKLM/software/HTC/ATDbgLog/ |
| 18:27.58 | phh | I think I'll try with usb unplugged + pocketputty + haret. |
| 18:28.38 | makkonen | turn enable to 1, log mode to 1, and restart. make the two calls, restart again, and find /atdbg/atdbg0.txt or some such file name. not looking at it at the moment. |
| 18:30.21 | [acl] | MrPippy: Ahh.. ok.. i missed the nvram path. I did it straight at the wifi.c file and completely missed that part. Ill try that later |
| 18:30.57 | MrPippy | cool, why are you rebuilding libhardware_legacy? |
| 18:32.34 | [acl] | remember i told you i had a custom system.sqsh. I thought it was based of xandroid but it turns out i built it straight from the source. So when the wifi patch came out on the kernel it never booted. So now i wanna rebuild it with the proper libs. |
| 18:33.14 | [acl] | plus its fun |
| 18:36.01 | NeoMatrixJR | ok, can someone educate me on libhtcgeneric-ril.so vs. libhtc-ril.so? |
| 18:36.18 | aatreya | makkonen: same results as you |
| 18:36.28 | makkonen | the former is the one built by the community. the latter is the binary one from htc. |
| 18:36.39 | aatreya | for the log file. the call still fails |
| 18:36.54 | aatreya | it seems my RIL can't handle + signs, while yours can |
| 18:36.57 | makkonen | aatreya: oh well. dead end. though it does mean your problem is a network one, I guess. |
| 18:37.10 | makkonen | which is really weird |
| 18:37.11 | aatreya | what radio do you have? |
| 18:37.22 | aatreya | mine is 1.12.34F |
| 18:37.23 | makkonen | stock sprint. went from 1.03 to 1.12 or whatever |
| 18:37.32 | makkonen | sounds like the same one |
| 18:37.42 | MrPippy | phh: so /system/lib/libhtcgeneric-ril.so is the one that gets used? |
| 18:38.13 | aatreya | phh: it seems that the "plus code dialing" feature just removes the + sign if you dial a north american number |
| 18:38.29 | aatreya | could we emulate this for the RAPH800 only, since that's a US device? |
| 18:38.57 | nemasu | whats RIL? |
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| 18:39.05 | aatreya | nemasu: radio interface layer |
| 18:40.26 | phh | MrPippy: yup |
| 18:40.30 | nemasu | aatreya: ah, thanks |
| 18:41.22 | NeoMatrixJR | MrPippy,phh: oddly enough it looks like civic's libhtcgeneric-ril.so is just a copy of libhtc-ril.so |
| 18:41.25 | phh | aatreya: and bye bye international phones. |
| 18:41.32 | phh | NeoMatrixJR: ah. |
| 18:41.36 | phh | that explains why you have no data. |
| 18:41.39 | stinebd | oy |
| 18:42.12 | [acl] | NeoMatrixJR: No, i think he just renamed it. His prior build they were diff sizes. |
| 18:42.13 | NeoMatrixJR | dear freaking gosh...somone please tell me that everything we need for RHOD cdma isn't already in the standard XDANDROID kernel and libhtc-ril.so...... |
| 18:42.36 | phh | NeoMatrixJR: just try it :p |
| 18:42.48 | phh | [acl]: yet it means he doesn't use our ril at all |
| 18:42.53 | NeoMatrixJR | phh...I will...testing something right now. |
| 18:42.59 | phh | and I understand why he has no source to share. |
| 18:43.27 | NeoMatrixJR | [acl]: no, I did a binary compare...his generic and the regular libhtc-ril.so are identical |
| 18:43.31 | stinebd | i guess he doesn't know what he's doing? |
| 18:43.44 | phh | stinebd: could be |
| 18:43.56 | NeoMatrixJR | I'll test in a while...I'm past due to grab lunch.... |
| 18:44.06 | phh | ok |
| 18:46.30 | aatreya | phh: is there a way to make it a kernel parameter? |
| 18:46.47 | phh | baaaaaahhhh |
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| 18:46.56 | phh | yes ... |
| 18:47.18 | MrPippy | for some reason his rootfs also loads modules from modules.tar.gz (no version string)... |
| 18:47.31 | aatreya | yeah, i don't like the idea either |
| 18:47.37 | phh | I guess it's because he doesn't know how to get properly the modules name |
| 18:47.51 | aatreya | but it's better than the alternatives, it seems |
| 18:47.52 | [acl] | phh: I dont think he has made his own mods to the generic rl. and is using that. |
| 18:47.57 | phh | aatreya: oh it was more a "baaaaahhhh think about my lazyness" than "baaaaaah it's dirty" :p |
| 18:48.03 | phh | [acl]: yup. |
| 18:49.20 | stinebd | phh: there's a saying for that. "patches welcome" ;) |
| 18:50.52 | MrPippy | i was working on ril yesterday, trying to get it to do AT logging (to logcat) but i just didn't see anything |
| 18:51.13 | MrPippy | so i just hacked it into smd_tty |
| 18:51.23 | phh | MrPippy: htc_ril ? |
| 18:51.47 | phh | I use strace to trace rild, but smd_tty hack works too I guess |
| 18:52.12 | MrPippy | i was building the community one, but i'm definitely going to try htc_ril now |
| 18:52.31 | phh | hum community one has AT logging by default AFAIK |
| 18:52.40 | phh | just do adb logcat -b radio and you'll get it |
| 18:54.41 | MrPippy | makes me wonder if theres something more keeping the ril from running on rhod |
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| 18:56.10 | MrPippy | ok nice, logcat -b radio did it |
| 18:56.22 | phh | but not for libhtc_ril |
| 18:56.38 | nemasu | curious, which device are you guys working with? |
| 18:57.28 | phh | rhod300 (or something like that) + diam100 |
| 18:58.02 | makkonen | 210, I thought |
| 18:58.35 | phh | mmm |
| 18:59.33 | phh | na tilt2 is rhod300 |
| 19:00.52 | makkonen | ah. rhod210 is US T-Mo |
| 19:00.54 | makkonen | sorry |
| 19:01.23 | phh | I need BT. |
| 19:02.02 | MrPippy | really? you need BT? |
| 19:02.20 | nemasu | all msm7200A? |
| 19:02.22 | phh | *or* sound |
| 19:02.39 | makkonen | I need BT on my computer... and it's a complete disaster. I don't know how anyone puts up with it. |
| 19:02.54 | bzo | phh: I thought sound didn't work on BT? |
| 19:03.03 | phh | bzo: I know how to fix it :p |
| 19:03.27 | bzo | hehe, I was excited about fixing the cdma bt until you told me sound wouldn't work :) |
| 19:03.39 | phh | I mean A2DP |
| 19:03.55 | phh | for call sounds, you'll have to play with klinux's build |
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| 19:04.31 | bzo | did klinux ever do anything with your info? |
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| 19:04.41 | phh | don't know |
| 19:05.14 | phh | I should try on my diamond I guess, with 100MB of swap to be able to boot. |
| 19:05.33 | bzo | is the info you sent him in the logs? |
| 19:05.50 | phh | na I sent him by mail |
| 19:05.51 | phh | you want it ? |
| 19:06.02 | bzo | sure |
| 19:06.15 | bzo | maybe a good thing to mess with this weekend |
| 19:09.20 | phh | bzo: http://pastebin.com/jGq5gck2 |
| 19:09.53 | bzo | ok, thx! |
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| 19:12.12 | bzo | phh: once you fix the a2dp, we'll have to increase the hciattach uart rate as well, right? |
| 19:12.26 | phh | bzo: ?!? |
| 19:12.32 | phh | we already have it @ 4Mbps |
| 19:12.45 | bzo | hmm, I thoght the init configured it for 115k |
| 19:13.03 | phh | the syntax of hciattach is maybe not obvious |
| 19:13.16 | phh | we do hciattach -n -s 115200 ttyHS1 texas 4000000 |
| 19:13.27 | phh | -n means do not detach so that android is happy |
| 19:13.32 | phh | -s means startup speed |
| 19:13.54 | phh | then uart port, then hciattach driver, then the speed once loaded |
| 19:13.59 | Captnoord | hmmmmm.... |
| 19:14.12 | bzo | phh: stinebd added this to init.eclair.rc: |
| 19:14.13 | bzo | service hciattach /system/bin/hciattach /dev/ttyHS1 texas 115200 |
| 19:14.17 | phh | ah. |
| 19:14.18 | phh | right. |
| 19:14.21 | makkonen | texas? |
| 19:14.21 | phh | then it's 115200. |
| 19:14.36 | phh | makkonen: non-rhod devices has TI BRF6350 yes why ? |
| 19:14.40 | MrPippy | i just did a mount --bind to link htc_ril to htcgeneric-ril, voice seems to work but nothing else does....95civic could have just told us thats what he did |
| 19:14.46 | bzo | phh: also, I think we hae to up the current to 8ma to support 4mb |
| 19:14.52 | makkonen | oh. just didn't associate texas and TI. |
| 19:15.02 | phh | bzo: oO |
| 19:15.03 | phh | why ? |
| 19:15.20 | stinebd | i was gonna use california but texas sounded better |
| 19:15.22 | phh | makkonen: ah, texas instrument :p |
| 19:15.33 | makkonen | yeah, I get it now. :-) |
| 19:15.51 | phh | bzo: a serial port doesn't need higher power current for higher speed ... and it works fine in donut |
| 19:16.01 | bzo | bzo: dunno, but I saw dzo do that when he fixed the high speed uart for vogue |
| 19:16.05 | makkonen | mrpippy: yeah, it's weird. I don't get if he's being intentionally obtuse or what. |
| 19:16.08 | bzo | heh, talking to myself |
| 19:16.25 | phh | bzo: if BT worked in donut for you, then 8mA isn't needed :p |
| 19:16.45 | bzo | ok |
| 19:17.11 | phh | but maybe you don't have the same config as us, don't know |
| 19:19.37 | makkonen | why on earth would htcgeneric-ril be failing for voice and the htc one not? that's gotta be some sort of fundamental problem, no? all the at commands for simple voice stuff aren't going to change. |
| 19:19.53 | phh | makkonen: yeah :( |
| 19:20.03 | phh | and I'm pretty sure this ril isn't even supposed to work on cdma ... |
| 19:20.20 | phh | (I can be wrong on that one.) |
| 19:21.42 | makkonen | I wonder if the binary ril from the droid eris (another msm7600 device) might get farther... but spending time on the binary stuff seems like a waste of time in general. |
| 19:22.02 | phh | what doesn't work ? |
| 19:22.26 | Wout | phh: any idea on how turning off gps could improve battery life? seeing that gps isn't even working yet |
| 19:22.37 | phh | Wout: DETU ? |
| 19:22.38 | Wout | but since turning it off by battery life has improved |
| 19:22.40 | Wout | :P |
| 19:22.40 | makkonen | in the binary? data. in the community? voice and data. apparently -- I still haven't got a rhod400 to use. |
| 19:22.47 | MrPippy | probably the network registration AT cmds, i think i know what they are (from the wince AT log) |
| 19:23.00 | phh | makkonen: what about sms and friends ? |
| 19:23.04 | Wout | well, it's battery life and location services, could constant tries to triangulate positions using cell towers drain the batt? |
| 19:23.18 | phh | Wout: not triangulate, but yes |
| 19:23.24 | phh | Wout: there are two options, GPS, and localisation |
| 19:23.24 | MrPippy | on rhod400 the community ril doesn't work at all |
| 19:23.29 | phh | which are two different ones. |
| 19:23.40 | MrPippy | and data is never going to work on a binary htc ril |
| 19:23.43 | makkonen | binary -- sms works exceptionally poorly. they don't arrive, but the network thinks they do, so they're lost in the ether. |
| 19:24.04 | phh | makkonen: huhu |
| 19:24.16 | phh | MrPippy: oh well, data can be worked around I think |
| 19:24.34 | phh | I guess the AT commands are the same, just use qmnet instead of ppp |
| 19:24.38 | phh | so we can fake the qmnet interface |
| 19:24.41 | phh | but it's not worth the effort. |
| 19:25.28 | makkonen | yeah, if it's just the network registration stuff that needs to be updated (not surprising I guess with the cdma+gsm radio) that might not be tough to get up to speed with in the community ril. |
| 19:25.41 | makkonen | but that's me being optimistic... and I try not to do that. |
| 19:26.52 | bzo | phh: where do I get btipsd? |
| 19:27.18 | phh | bzo: it's already in klinux's build |
| 19:27.48 | bzo | ok, I'll copy it from there. Wanted to get it working on the xdandroid one |
| 19:28.33 | bzo | phh: also, does the hciattach service have to be turned off? They can't share the serial port can they? |
| 19:28.51 | phh | I think I haven't been explicit enough |
| 19:29.12 | phh | only a rom from an android device can do that |
| 19:29.25 | phh | for our devices, the only such rom available is klinux's espresso |
| 19:29.45 | phh | and you won't be able to use hciattach on it if you'd want to |
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| 19:30.04 | phh | Unholy: ? |
| 19:30.11 | phh | why pocketputty doesn't work ? :'( |
| 19:30.29 | bzo | phh: ok. bah :( |
| 19:33.11 | [acl] | makkonen: I think more than one person already tried to run the binary ril off the Eris.No luck from what i can tell. |
| 19:33.25 | makkonen | ok. not surprising. |
| 19:34.15 | Unholy | windows 7 aUDIO |
| 19:34.31 | phh | Unholy: I think your keyboard or your mouse's broken. |
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| 19:42.40 | Unholy | omfg |
| 19:42.43 | Unholy | so sorry |
| 19:42.50 | Unholy | i was in another computer |
| 19:43.00 | Unholy | had my monitor hooked up to it |
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| 19:47.08 | Alka | good morning everyone in america, good afternoon on europa and good night in asia |
| 19:47.21 | Wout | almost got it |
| 19:47.30 | Wout | it's 19.47 gmt :P |
| 19:47.34 | Wout | but appreciate the effort |
| 19:47.54 | phh | :) |
| 19:54.32 | Wout | actually, it's about beer o'clock here |
| 19:54.33 | Wout | later ppl |
| 19:54.41 | phh | lol |
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| 20:05.09 | Unholy | phh im trying out klinux's expresso 2.1 but wifi is not working, im using latest zimage,rootfs.img,initrz |
| 20:05.25 | phh | which board ? |
| 20:05.34 | Unholy | raph110 |
| 20:05.39 | phh | ah. |
| 20:07.04 | Alka | :) |
| 20:07.16 | phh | don't know then |
| 20:07.35 | Unholy | atleast hw3d works =D |
| 20:07.56 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 20:08.17 | phh | Unholy: :'( |
| 20:08.51 | Unholy | have you tryed it? |
| 20:08.57 | Unholy | its alot smoother than xandroid |
| 20:09.07 | phh | uh ? |
| 20:09.09 | phh | not for me /o\ |
| 20:09.12 | Unholy | but that could be me running at 700mhz |
| 20:09.16 | phh | . |
| 20:09.17 | phh | could be. |
| 20:09.30 | Unholy | menus overall ui feels faster |
| 20:10.16 | Alka | Unholy: where can get expresso 2.1 build |
| 20:10.24 | Unholy | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641021 |
| 20:10.30 | Unholy | its form klinux |
| 20:10.32 | Unholy | from* |
| 20:10.58 | bzo | wow, it is slow to boot up, 10 minutes to first boot |
| 20:11.12 | Unholy | first boot is slow |
| 20:11.25 | Unholy | rest are fast like always or well as fast as eclair 2.0 |
| 20:11.26 | Unholy | XD |
| 20:11.49 | Alka | Unholy: let me try, thank for the tips and link |
| 20:12.03 | Unholy | gl |
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| 20:23.31 | NeoMatrixJR | Yep, copied libhtc-ril.so to libhtcgeneric-ril.so in an xdandroid build and lo and behold CDMA voice works! |
| 20:23.42 | NeoMatrixJR | so....95-civic has pretty much done...? |
| 20:24.01 | NeoMatrixJR | lemmie guess... libhtc-ril.so is closed source.... |
| 20:24.57 | phh | how you guessed it ? :p |
| 20:25.27 | NeoMatrixJR | phuck.... |
| 20:26.11 | NeoMatrixJR | Well...playing with tons of setups was enlightening anyways. |
| 20:26.54 | phh | :) |
| 20:27.05 | NeoMatrixJR | I can't test wifi where I am 'cause there's no access points but did the latest zImage and modules screw up RHOD wifi? |
| 20:27.23 | phh | rootfs maybe ? |
| 20:27.32 | NeoMatrixJR | I get a 'unable to scan networks' error when I turn it on. |
| 20:27.39 | phh | I broke it for 2 or 3 days, but should be fixed now |
| 20:28.49 | NeoMatrixJR | phh: where? zImage+mod or rootfs (or both)? |
| 20:29.48 | phh | you mean where to get updates ? |
| 20:30.35 | NeoMatrixJR | naw...wondering what component you changed that broke it |
| 20:30.59 | NeoMatrixJR | I'm running latest autobuilds of zimage+mods & rootfs and it doesn't work |
| 20:31.08 | phh | really latest ? |
| 20:31.10 | phh | bbaah |
| 20:31.41 | NeoMatrixJR | zImage-modules-20100302_215006.tar |
| 20:31.43 | NeoMatrixJR | rootfs-20100301-711ac2e.zip |
| 20:31.44 | NeoMatrixJR | initrd-20100301-069da21.gz |
| 20:31.55 | phh | I uploaded something yesterday to rootfs |
| 20:31.58 | phh | so it's not latest |
| 20:32.08 | MrPippy | i've been talking to someone on ppcgeeks who has had the same problem, "unable to scan networks" |
| 20:32.11 | phh | and I pushed the fix yesterday |
| 20:32.23 | IceBone | phh: anything about my annoyance yet? |
| 20:32.29 | MrPippy | really weird error, i'd like to see a dmesg+logcat from it |
| 20:32.37 | NeoMatrixJR | ...had to clear my browser cache.... now I see new rootfs |
| 20:32.45 | Captnoord | hmmm |
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| 20:32.52 | Captnoord | initial battery driver patch is almost done |
| 20:32.54 | Captnoord | bleh |
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| 20:34.36 | bzo | hmm, the espresso build doesn't run so well on the diam500 |
| 20:34.44 | bzo | no voice/data, and screen gets stuck |
| 20:34.48 | Captnoord | maybe I know a way to get the current measurements checked....... |
| 20:35.07 | Unholy | works fine in my raph110 exept for gsensor and wifi |
| 20:35.22 | Unholy | and bt |
| 20:35.26 | bzo | do you see any errors like this in dmesg? |
| 20:35.27 | bzo | msm_proc_comm_wince: DEX cmd timed out. status=0x0, A2Mcntr=5b, M2Acntr=8 |
| 20:35.27 | IceBone | What's espresso, really? |
| 20:36.23 | bzo | Captnoord: how about soldering a .1 ohm resistor between your phone and battery, hehe :P |
| 20:36.39 | Captnoord | that was exactly my plan |
| 20:36.41 | Captnoord | but |
| 20:36.46 | Captnoord | not in that matter |
| 20:36.47 | Captnoord | :P |
| 20:36.57 | Captnoord | but kinda like that yea |
| 20:37.42 | bzo | I was joking, but maybe you could rig something like that less destructively |
| 20:41.04 | tmzt | Neo31: voice works without booting in a call? |
| 20:41.09 | tmzt | is this from heroc/iris? |
| 20:41.25 | tmzt | and data doesn't work because that ril uses qmi/rmnet and we need ppp |
| 20:41.37 | tmzt | it's possible we could wrqap it though and use it just for voice |
| 20:41.58 | Neo31 | !!! |
| 20:42.19 | phh | tmzt: wasn't it NeoMatrixJR ? |
| 20:42.20 | Neo31 | ping tmzt ! |
| 20:42.28 | tmzt | NeoMatrixJR: |
| 20:42.28 | Neo31 | lol, ok i c :p |
| 20:42.30 | tmzt | yep |
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| 21:04.19 | NeoMatrixJR | phh, tmzt: wait...what did I do? |
| 21:04.30 | phh | NeoMatrixJR: htc's ril. |
| 21:04.55 | phh | NeoMatrixJR: I guess mic works only if in call when booting ? |
| 21:05.06 | NeoMatrixJR | yeah. it's htc's RIL. |
| 21:05.28 | NeoMatrixJR | um...dunno about mic. so far I've just been checking call connection |
| 21:06.25 | Captnoord | GNUtoo: got a question for ya |
| 21:06.28 | Captnoord | if your up to it |
| 21:06.29 | GNUtoo | yes? |
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| 21:06.37 | NeoMatrixJR | phh: updated rootfs.img (did not reset data.img) and still can't scan wifi. |
| 21:06.41 | dcordes | GNUtoo, yo |
| 21:06.58 | Captnoord | could you change your original battery code so it dumps the raw value's.. |
| 21:07.08 | Captnoord | or at least |
| 21:07.13 | Captnoord | the value's it sends to android |
| 21:07.23 | Captnoord | I want to know them..... |
| 21:07.26 | phh | Captnoord: AFAIK they don't have the smem values as us |
| 21:07.31 | Captnoord | I know |
| 21:07.42 | Captnoord | he can send me the stuff he can get his handson |
| 21:07.45 | [acl] | NeoMatrixJR:You sure thats htcs ril? i could have sworn i tried the binary before with no luck. Or did you get that file from Civics build? |
| 21:08.06 | Captnoord | if its smem or not |
| 21:08.09 | Captnoord | I don't care |
| 21:09.03 | GNUtoo | Captnoord, if it's only dumping and it's not risky and I only do testing it's ok |
| 21:09.16 | Captnoord | its not risky |
| 21:09.21 | Captnoord | I just want to know the numbers |
| 21:10.01 | NeoMatrixJR | [acl]: pretty sure it's HTC's. I used Beyond Compare 3 to do a binary comparison of the libhtcgeneric-ril.so in civic's build to the libhtc-ril.so in an XDANDROID build. It's the same file down to the 1's and 0's |
| 21:11.46 | GNUtoo | Captnoord, ok so what should I do exactly? |
| 21:12.18 | GNUtoo | btw I've now full access to the serial connector,I must investigate more |
| 21:12.27 | Captnoord | I want to know the numbers of |
| 21:12.27 | Captnoord | struct battery_info_reply { |
| 21:12.30 | [acl] | NeoMatrixJR: What device? im uring rhod400 and i had no luck with the binary ril. Whats the size of the file? |
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| 21:15.22 | MrPippy | yeah i did a mount --bind for libhtc-ril to libhtcgeneric-ril, so my rhod400 booted with the htc ril and calls worked, antenna status didn't |
| 21:16.39 | NeoMatrixJR | [acl] 271kb |
| 21:16.58 | NeoMatrixJR | MrPippy: no, antenna/signal has never worked |
| 21:18.24 | NeoMatrixJR | so who's going to let the poor forum members know that they can quit the cult of 95-civic and all he's done is use the HTC binary RIL? |
| 21:19.27 | MrPippy | i'll keep working on the community ril, i can see where the error is right now (its on AT+CFUN=66) |
| 21:19.38 | MrPippy | maybe don't burst their bubble until we have something better to show |
| 21:20.21 | MrPippy | also, 95civic resurfaced last weekend, maybe he'll show up this weekend (with some patches haha) |
| 21:21.29 | phh | the patches seems unlikely now. |
| 21:21.33 | NeoMatrixJR | MrPippy: I think I'd rather see you open up a new thread then burst the bubble and let them follow your new thread. |
| 21:22.29 | NeoMatrixJR | phh: fixed wifi. Needed to dump data.img after upgrading rootfs.img |
| 21:22.38 | phh | NeoMatrixJR: ooh |
| 21:22.39 | phh | right. |
| 21:22.54 | MrPippy | yeah thats true, its his thread but he's rarely posting any updates anyway |
| 21:23.07 | NeoMatrixJR | damnit killed the send button though... |
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| 21:24.35 | MrPippy | maybe i'll send him a PM and ask if he'd rather one of us make a new thread and take the lead |
| 21:24.40 | NeoMatrixJR | Also, for whoever it was that asked, my mic works even w/o calling out + haret |
| 21:25.58 | MrPippy | how about earspeaker? |
| 21:26.23 | phh | MrPippy: maybe you could add mount -o bind /system/lib/libhtc-ril.so /system/lib/libhtcgeneric_ril.so if cdma rhod is detected ? |
| 21:26.29 | NeoMatrixJR | I haven't used android enough to even pay attention before, but is RHOD supposed to have proper battery reporting? Does it charge at all while on USB? |
| 21:26.30 | phh | until it's fixed |
| 21:26.44 | phh | NeoMatrixJR: mic works ? |
| 21:26.48 | phh | that is weird. |
| 21:26.50 | phh | we don't power up audience |
| 21:27.19 | NeoMatrixJR | worked for me. I'll properly test when I'm not at the office. |
| 21:27.29 | MrPippy | i'm not sure its a good idea, calls would work but any SMS recv just go into a black hole |
| 21:27.36 | phh | MrPippy: ah |
| 21:27.38 | [acl] | NeoMatrixJR: I have an old build and the htc_ril.so is about 453Kb. |
| 21:27.39 | phh | ok |
| 21:28.04 | NeoMatrixJR | brb |
| 21:28.18 | tmzt | mic works? |
| 21:28.19 | [acl] | im checking others too. |
| 21:28.51 | GNUtoo | Captnoord, where is this struct used(it's defined in htc_battery.c) |
| 21:28.51 | tmzt | phh: do you think we could wrap bthat so and use generic's ppp implementation? |
| 21:29.09 | phh | tmzt: if they don't even have sms working, it's not worth trying |
| 21:29.19 | tmzt | sms is binary |
| 21:29.23 | tmzt | it's not hard |
| 21:29.44 | phh | yes and ... ? the ril has something to do for sms on cdma |
| 21:30.03 | tmzt | it just doesn't use the sim, the sms init is probably failing just because it's putting it in non sim mode and the commands fail |
| 21:30.12 | tmzt | hmm, it's all rilj I think |
| 21:30.19 | tmzt | maybe we need eris 2.1's rilj |
| 21:30.25 | phh | would be too hard to work around all problems |
| 21:30.37 | tmzt | does sms work otherwise? |
| 21:31.03 | phh | on GSM ? yes |
| 21:31.15 | tmzt | I can't see how, if a certain ril command comes in that we don't handle pass it to the dlopen'd binary ril |
| 21:31.30 | tmzt | rilj==java ril |
| 21:31.44 | phh | ah. |
| 21:31.58 | tmzt | most of the logic is in there |
| 21:32.03 | phh | tmzt: in the ril library driver whatever we build |
| 21:32.05 | phh | there is sms logic |
| 21:32.13 | phh | which is different for gsm and cdma |
| 21:32.21 | tmzt | yeah but we just need binary mode |
| 21:32.33 | phh | and android>=1.6 already supports cdma |
| 21:32.34 | tmzt | cdma just dumps the sms in binary on the at channel |
| 21:32.36 | phh | so I guess it's the rilj. |
| 21:32.37 | mung | ? |
| 21:32.40 | tmzt | there's no smsc |
| 21:32.42 | phh | tmzt: yes but on GSM ... |
| 21:32.44 | phh | not* |
| 21:33.04 | tmzt | we handle sms as a unsol |
| 21:33.06 | phh | that makes way to many problems to workaround |
| 21:33.10 | MrPippy | i think it'll be easier and cleaner to just get the community ril working |
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| 21:33.22 | phh | yes, I don't think we have much missing things |
| 21:33.24 | tmzt | I'm only talking of voice |
| 21:33.39 | tmzt | the part that makes lo level calls |
| 21:33.54 | tmzt | we can replace the stub with re'd code when cr2/etc. docs it |
| 21:34.10 | GNUtoo | Captnoord, ok seem used only in htc_battery.c |
| 21:36.34 | Captnoord | yea |
| 21:36.42 | Captnoord | but I need to know the value's |
| 21:36.51 | Captnoord | so I can get a idea what these should be |
| 21:37.19 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 21:39.57 | NeoMatrixJR | don't think anyone saw this: I haven't used android enough to even pay attention before, but is RHOD supposed to have proper battery reporting? Does it charge at all while on USB? |
| 21:40.24 | Captnoord | it does charge even when its not reporting |
| 21:40.29 | tmzt | NeoMatrixJR: does mic work without booting in a call? |
| 21:40.30 | makkonen | I believe that it does charge, but does not report. |
| 21:41.15 | tmzt | phh: another appproach, can we add printk's to the kernel for acoustic or bother devices? |
| 21:41.18 | NeoMatrixJR | tmzt: I believe so. I can't give it a proper test right now as I'm in cubeland at my office. |
| 21:41.31 | tmzt | when you can |
| 21:42.57 | NeoMatrixJR | good...'cause my phone's about dead. |
| 21:46.40 | NeoMatrixJR | tmzt: could also be that I needed to call in when building data.img then it sticks? I always call out before running haret on my first load of a build, then I don't after that. |
| 21:47.14 | tmzt | hmm |
| 21:47.21 | tmzt | not sure how that works |
| 21:47.32 | tmzt | logcat might tell you |
| 21:47.34 | tmzt | hmm |
| 21:47.45 | tmzt | it could just put it in cdma mode at that point |
| 21:48.11 | makkonen | neomatrix: that shouldn't matter. nothing about that persists. |
| 21:48.19 | tmzt | so that at gsm calls through cdma since it can only register on one technology or bnetwork at a time |
| 21:48.31 | tmzt | right, it makes no sense |
| 21:49.01 | NeoMatrixJR | anyone know what /dev/input/event3 is? running getevent and it's going nuts |
| 21:49.30 | makkonen | touchscreen? |
| 21:49.40 | makkonen | 'cat /sys/class/input/input3/name' |
| 21:49.46 | tmzt | cat /sys/class/input/input*/name |
| 21:49.47 | tmzt | yep |
| 21:50.42 | NeoMatrixJR | bma150 |
| 21:50.51 | makkonen | gsensor |
| 21:50.54 | NeoMatrixJR | ah. |
| 21:51.14 | NeoMatrixJR | any way to shut it off? |
| 21:51.29 | tmzt | power it down? |
| 21:51.31 | tmzt | why? |
| 21:51.48 | NeoMatrixJR | so I can run getevent and actually see what I'm doing on the keyboard |
| 21:52.20 | makkonen | find the right input for the keyboard, and 'getevent /dev/input/event#' |
| 21:53.07 | tmzt | cat /sys/class/input/input*/name |
| 21:53.50 | NeoMatrixJR | man I can't wait until I get my keymaps done for the RHOD400. : and / are swapped |
| 21:55.00 | tmzt | android keymaps? |
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| 21:56.36 | NeoMatrixJR | keymaps in init.etc/keymaps |
| 21:56.57 | tmzt | which is android |
| 21:57.15 | tmzt | how is Fn mapped? as KEY_FN? |
| 21:57.16 | dcordes | haret broken |
| 21:57.36 | dcordes | No rule to make target `include/s3c24xx.h', needed by `out/arch-s3.o'. |
| 21:58.12 | NeoMatrixJR | tmzt: ALT_LEFT I believe |
| 21:58.24 | makkonen | tmzt: I think it's mapped as KEY_LEFTALT across the board now. |
| 21:58.25 | NeoMatrixJR | tmzt: currently using RHOD210 keymap |
| 21:58.38 | NeoMatrixJR | unless it's been updated.... |
| 21:58.43 | tmzt | leftalt? |
| 21:58.49 | tmzt | that breaks alt |
| 21:58.55 | tmzt | and therefore irssi |
| 21:59.02 | dcordes | ~seen NetRipper |
| 21:59.04 | apt | netripper <~netripper@tikkie.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 23h 1s ago, saying: 'some still empty'. |
| 21:59.15 | NetRippah | ya? |
| 21:59.23 | NetRippah | im here but im like in a game |
| 21:59.27 | dcordes | yoh |
| 21:59.32 | dcordes | what you gaming? |
| 21:59.34 | [acl] | NeoMatrixJR: I thought the keymaps for the rhod400 out already. |
| 21:59.36 | NetRippah | eve online |
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| 21:59.51 | dcordes | NetRippah, does latest haret compile for you? |
| 22:00.05 | NetRippah | err it should yes |
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| 22:00.19 | dcordes | it is crying about the s3c |
| 22:00.24 | dcordes | see above |
| 22:00.31 | dcordes | for me at least |
| 22:00.38 | NetRipper | lol i was banned in #sql |
| 22:00.41 | NetRipper | couldnt change nick |
| 22:00.48 | NetRipper | that should only be a warning |
| 22:00.48 | NetRipper | ;x |
| 22:00.59 | NetRipper | do a git status |
| 22:01.02 | NetRipper | make sure you dont have files |
| 22:01.03 | Captnoord | lol |
| 22:01.05 | NetRipper | that it doesnt update |
| 22:01.06 | Captnoord | hwat did you do |
| 22:01.13 | makkonen | hmm. I take it back. looks like it's mapped as key_fn for rhodium, with a note '//Doesn't do anything?' |
| 22:01.14 | dcordes | -i ? |
| 22:01.52 | dcordes | NetRipper, got a clean git even put the BASE in command line |
| 22:02.03 | NetRipper | compiles for me :x |
| 22:02.08 | NetRipper | hm |
| 22:02.19 | NeoMatrixJR | key 464 ALT_LEFT. Should I change this in my map to match a standard? |
| 22:02.22 | dcordes | do you have the link to the mingw32ce you use'? |
| 22:02.35 | tmzt | does 464 even work? |
| 22:02.42 | tmzt | it doesn't for linux |
| 22:02.45 | tmzt | it's too high |
| 22:02.54 | NeoMatrixJR | just ran getevent and that's what I got |
| 22:02.57 | NeoMatrixJR | 01d0 |
| 22:03.03 | makkonen | neomatrixjr: I'm talking about at the kernel level, I'm not sure about the keymap level. |
| 22:03.05 | NetRipper | dcordes, ermm no but i'll give the filename |
| 22:03.14 | NeoMatrixJR | oh, I dunno |
| 22:03.16 | NeoMatrixJR | sorry |
| 22:03.30 | makkonen | does your fn key do anything? |
| 22:03.47 | NeoMatrixJR | oh yeah. It works with the fn symbols on the keyboard |
| 22:03.57 | NeoMatrixJR | they're just mapped a bit different on the RHOD210 |
| 22:03.57 | makkonen | ok |
| 22:03.58 | dcordes | NetRipper, ok. it's just that the site is a total mess. a complete maze |
| 22:05.29 | NetRipper | err dcordes actually.. i dont know which i'm using lol |
| 22:05.33 | NetRipper | i can pack up mine |
| 22:05.37 | NetRipper | and put it on my site |
| 22:05.46 | NetRipper | dunno from which tar.gz it came |
| 22:06.00 | NetRipper | i think its mandriva-cegcc-mingw32ce-0.51.0.tar.gz |
| 22:07.39 | NetRipper | 21 mb man ;x |
| 22:07.45 | NetRipper | hope i dont disconnect from game |
| 22:08.25 | dcordes | :/ thx |
| 22:08.49 | dcordes | it's nice that the samsung stuff is in btw |
| 22:08.52 | dcordes | was it easy? |
| 22:09.06 | dcordes | any problems with commits in the mean time? |
| 22:09.43 | NetRipper | it was alright, but there were some comments from kevin... but i checked it in anyway |
| 22:09.54 | NetRipper | it can be cleaned up if needed |
| 22:10.54 | NetRipper | dcordes, http://www.netripper.com/leo/haret-mingw32ce.tar.gz |
| 22:11.11 | NetRipper | thats just my /opt/mingw32ce |
| 22:11.17 | NetRipper | if you unpack it, it should be good |
| 22:13.59 | MrPippy | hmm something is making rild either crash or close smd0 |
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| 22:16.43 | dcordes | NetRipper, thx0rz |
| 22:17.02 | NetRipper | let me know if that one works |
| 22:18.20 | NeoMatrixJR | how do I get android kcm useable? do I run kcm on the phone, or compile it somehow on a linux machine? |
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| 22:19.16 | MrPippy | and after smd0 bounced up and down 10+ times i got a OOPS - smd_tty_buffer mismatch?! from smd_tty |
| 22:19.18 | GNUtoo | Captnoord, http://pastebin.com/cqPHUJ5E |
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| 22:20.02 | dcordes | heidi likes the doppel push up effekt for her hair |
| 22:22.17 | NetRipper | too much alcohol dcordes? |
| 22:22.46 | dcordes | NetRipper, no that was yesterday |
| 22:22.53 | NetRipper | hangover much? |
| 22:22.54 | NetRipper | :) |
| 22:23.03 | dcordes | not really. but ultimate boredom |
| 22:23.20 | NetRipper | :P |
| 22:23.26 | NetRipper | so does the toolchain work |
| 22:23.30 | NetRipper | can you build haret now? |
| 22:23.57 | GNUtoo | Captnoord, http://pastebin.com/cqPHUJ5E |
| 22:24.57 | dcordes | NetRipper, no I suspsect something went wrong while creating your tar |
| 22:25.41 | tehtrk | for some reason, all soft resets of my NAND kaiser install hang at the subsequent boot. I have to pull the battery at bootloader screen every time I reset in order to get a successful boot. Is this a known issue |
| 22:26.19 | dcordes | NetRipper, with the directory structure. because it can't find paths inside your extracted mingw dir |
| 22:28.50 | NeoMatrixJR | anyone know how to use kcm to get a kcm.bin file? |
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| 22:32.33 | tmzt | tehtrk: not to us |
| 22:32.40 | tmzt | you might ask vogue channel |
| 22:33.35 | tehtrk | Would that be #vogue ? |
| 22:34.44 | dcordes | NetRipper, mandriva-gdb-mingw32ce-arm-0.55.tar.gz ? |
| 22:35.01 | NetRipper | i created the tar with paths i think |
| 22:35.07 | NetRipper | it'll extract to /opt |
| 22:35.09 | myn | is there even a vogue channel? |
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| 22:35.14 | Ondalf | hmm... random bug with my kaiser. just while ago "o" button from keyboard jammed cause loooooong set of "o" and whole keyboard stopped working. i was using ConnectBot and after boot with battery-out everything works like it should... some random bug with kaiser-keyboard? |
| 22:35.36 | tehtrk | Was it really loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong? |
| 22:36.06 | bzo | dcordes: I setup a new haret compile env last week using the mingw32ce that you just listed and it worked fine for me |
| 22:36.12 | tehtrk | you may have filled up the keyboard buffer (if there is one on these devices). |
| 22:36.25 | Ondalf | took a while to remove from screen those "o"'s ;) probably 2 minutes. i do not require any action taken, just informing. |
| 22:36.36 | tehtrk | oh I see |
| 22:38.27 | Captnoord | GNUtoo: THANKS A LOT^2 |
| 22:39.13 | NeoMatrixJR | MrPippy: you still online? |
| 22:39.18 | MrPippy | yeah |
| 22:40.13 | NeoMatrixJR | MrPippy: what did you have to do to compile my kcl the other day into .kcl.bin? |
| 22:40.24 | NeoMatrixJR | I have a final change I want to make |
| 22:40.57 | MrPippy | i just ran kcm on it |
| 22:41.21 | NeoMatrixJR | how did you run kcm...what command? |
| 22:41.28 | NeoMatrixJR | i have a kcm.cpp file |
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| 22:41.47 | tmzt | Ondalf: kaiser that's very unlikely |
| 22:41.53 | tmzt | it's a matrix keyboard |
| 22:42.11 | tmzt | tehtrk: try #android-vogue |
| 22:42.32 | Ondalf | tmzt: that's what i wondered too... so it was some random soft-lockup caused by another random thing |
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| 22:43.17 | myn | no its #vogue-android |
| 22:43.21 | MrPippy | kcm is part of the android source, kcm.cpp is the source file |
| 22:43.25 | myn | whats the question? |
| 22:43.36 | cr2_ | MrPippy: which gpios do you use for bt ? |
| 22:43.44 | IceBone | Hey, some friend of mine just updated his Magic to Sense and now his data connection won't stick. He puts in an APN, but it won't save. Any clues as to why? |
| 22:43.46 | MrPippy | on diam500? |
| 22:44.51 | cr2_ | MrPippy: yes |
| 22:45.22 | NeoMatrixJR | MrPippy: so do I have to compile all of the android source to get kcm that I can run on a .kcm file? I'm not sure how this works. or should I just post the file again and have you compile it and not waste time? |
| 22:45.26 | MrPippy | bzo got BT working yesterday, it was a clock problem since pll0 is different on cdma vs. gsm and the BT/uart2 clock is derived from pll0 |
| 22:45.48 | cr2_ | MrPippy: ok |
| 22:45.48 | bzo | we are still missing the BT reset gpio pin though |
| 22:46.11 | cr2_ | MrPippy: what are the pll0 settings ? |
| 22:46.26 | MrPippy | i don't know that we have a bt reset pin, there's just that one gpio that shows up on power up/down |
| 22:46.34 | cr2_ | bzo: i see the usual 13,14,15,6c and 52/67 |
| 22:47.13 | MrPippy | this is the patch bzo posted yesterday http://pastebin.com/tGUEbuH5 |
| 22:47.52 | MrPippy | NeoMatrixJR: do you have a linux install? i can send you the kcm binary, i don't think it has any dependencies on the rest of android |
| 22:48.18 | bzo | cr2_: the dll is using 67? didn't see that used in the haret trace |
| 22:48.38 | cr2_ | MrPippy: you may add your MSM_CLK area dump to wikik |
| 22:48.52 | cr2_ | bzo: yes |
| 22:49.05 | NeoMatrixJR | MrPippy: yes, I have a linux VM |
| 22:49.45 | bzo | cr2_: hmm, 52 definately is power. Maybe 67 is being used as the reset |
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| 22:51.04 | MrPippy | http://opus.homelinux.com/public_files/kcm |
| 22:52.14 | cr2_ | bzo: WIFI/BT power says wiki for gsm |
| 22:53.00 | NeoMatrixJR | thanks MrPippy! I'll have to git the rootfs files when I'm home then submit my changes. |
| 22:53.31 | bzo | cr2_: yes, using that didn't work for cdma, and using the gsm reset pin killed usb on cdma |
| 22:54.37 | MrPippy | with the clk patch BT is working on diam500, right? |
| 22:54.53 | bzo | yes, as far as I can test |
| 22:55.17 | bzo | I only have a bt headset, and audio doesn't work for us currently |
| 22:55.33 | MrPippy | does the BT reset pin matter then? |
| 22:55.52 | bzo | perhaps not, it seems like wince doesn't use it |
| 22:56.06 | bzo | I did a high speed irq triggered gpio test and only the usual ones were picked up |
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| 23:23.54 | Captnoord | got loads of floating point emu functions... |
| 23:24.00 | Captnoord | why didn't I think of it before |
| 23:24.01 | Captnoord | bleh |
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| 23:49.18 | ToAsTcfh | bzo i suck!!! i still havent got oc to work :P |
| 23:50.11 | bzo | maybe you should try some simple tests, like just trying to set the pll speed |
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