IRC log for #htc-linux on 20100221

00:00.46NetRipperhm possibly
00:01.01NetRipperi'd think a seperate .dll that implements these processor-specific instructions
00:01.04cr2_how does it start ?
00:02.02cr2_wtf is MSFT section tables ?
00:02.09NetRipperno idea
00:02.59cr2_phh: [K] FIXME!! DEX_NOTIFY_ARM9_REBOOT_Kernel()...
00:03.55cr2_NetRipper: ok. what is the problem with i2c ?
00:04.25NetRipperwhat do you mean? the tracing in haret?
00:04.37cr2_no, in linux
00:04.49NetRippersame problem as mdp
00:04.51NetRipperhandle_bad_irq
00:05.02cr2_hm
00:05.08NetRipperbut i havent chedked out the interrupt handler there
00:05.17NetRippermight just be bad memory accesses
00:05.19cr2_have you looked at the experimental git ?
00:05.38NetRipperno but im thinking of switching to it before we do major work
00:06.01cr2_maybe they have some patches
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00:35.01aptsomebody said leo-ramconsole was pwf myramconsole 0x2FFC0000 0x40000
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01:22.08Spirits-SightHello anyone able to help with flashing nbh to a kaiser?
01:27.12AstainHellbringstick nbh on a sd card
01:27.20AstainHellbringrename to kaisimg.nbh
01:29.49JD[a]and cross your fingers :P
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01:56.14Spirits-SightAstainHellbring: but don't I need to do a hardSPL first?
01:57.11AstainHellbringSpirits-Sight ahh you dont have hspl'd
01:57.14AstainHellbringyes you need that
01:57.26Spirits-Sightwhich is best?
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01:57.53AstainHellbringthe newest
01:58.44Spirits-Sightfirst do the hardSPL, then update radio then do the nbh?  where is the newest and greatest for android for the hardSPL
02:00.36rzkSpirits-Sight: update to any radio that ships with stock 6.1 rom, old radios from 6.0 roms are not supported
02:02.02Spirits-Sightso the radio that is with my rom would be fine since its a winmo6.1
02:02.49rzkthen, format card to fat32 and copy androidinstall.tar from any build to andboot folder on card
02:03.30rzkthen charge battery and flash nbh for your panel type and favourite resolution
02:03.55rzknbhs - http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/?C=M;O=D
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02:04.05Spirits-SightOK, I right now am trying to find the latest hardSPL
02:05.48rzkdo this if you are really know what are you doing, this can kill your phone.
02:06.13rzkhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=621001 - manuals from JeckyllHavok
02:06.52Spirits-Sightthanks
02:08.13Spirits-Sightthis is after I do the hardSPL correct?  this is the same one I ready a little while ago.
02:08.35AstainHellbringSpirits-Sight flash a 6.1 stock rom then hspl
02:09.37Spirits-SightAstainHellbring: my phone has the stock rom, I just got a replacement because my screen crapped out a few weeks ago so I have to do the hardSPL stuff again :(
02:12.19Spirits-Sightthe sercurty lock is the thing that normal prevents the changing of the OS / rom correct?
02:19.02Spirits-SightAstainHellbring: is this good still or is there a better way now? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
02:20.44AstainHellbringSpirits-Sight http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498320
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02:28.44Spirits-Sightthanks
02:28.57Spirits-SightOK going to a windows system now be back
02:35.29leobaillardgrrr I hate deadlines :/
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04:05.22kupojust tried the raph800 kernel with my old mogul and treo pro
04:05.26kupoboth froze
04:05.28Spirits-Sightwill I be able to do SIM unlock through Android once its flashed to NAND?
04:06.38Spirits-Sightor is that only needed in the stock windows mobile
04:07.22AstainHellbringkupo of course they did
04:07.29AstainHellbringSpirits-Sight do it from wimo
04:08.57Spirits-Sightdo you know if it will be able to be done in Android at a later date?
04:10.49AstainHellbringdoubt it
04:11.11AstainHellbringits always possible but sim unlock is easy and only needs done once/device
04:12.13Spirits-Sightthe problem is I don't have another SIM card from other company to do it other wise AT&T gave me the unlock code
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04:32.06Spirits-SightAstainHellbring: Do you know of a way to do it with out puting another SIM card in ?
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04:33.16ToAsTcfhali1234: thanx brother, i guess ill look into it.
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04:48.52Spirits-SightOK, I used a program called Kasierunlocker.exe to unlock the SIM/CID it did this through a patched radio, so can I update the radio now without losing the sim unlock?
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05:07.31Spirits-SightHello, I am not sure which nbh to use for my kaiser its a AT&T 8925
05:07.48Spirits-SightI know I want the 240x320 res
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05:52.01ToAsTcfhdid anyone ever get android on the x50 low?
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06:16.56Spirits-SightAnyone here? I need assistance!  I was following the howto for flashing nbh for kaiser and it says the utilty is invalid please get updated verision any help would be greatful
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07:13.09Spirits-Sighthi Zoolooc do you know about flashing nbh for android?
07:13.48AstainHellbringSpirits-Sight what tut you following?
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07:24.49Spirits-SightI was able to flash the nbh based off of  http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=621001 methed one
07:26.03Spirits-SightAstainHellbring: I was able to get into the install menu and boot part way now it seems to be staying at save exist isCheckpointed
07:26.24AstainHellbringcool
07:28.44Spirits-Sightwhat would the reason of it staying at that one point be?
07:28.52Spirits-SightAstainHellbring:  ^
07:30.07kupoAstainHellbring: what would I need to do to get it working on either?
07:30.20kupotreo pro or old mogul
07:30.33kupoor are they still unsupported
07:30.35AstainHellbringSpirits-Sight no idea
07:30.49AstainHellbringkupo mogul is supported you will need the titan kernel
07:30.55kupoahh ok
07:31.03AstainHellbringkupo treo pro isnt supported fully yet
07:31.12AstainHellbringits started though
07:31.17kupoAstainHellbring: whats the best way to keep track of the status?
07:31.31kupoxda?
07:36.05Spirits-Sightta/property erro: 2 what am doing wrong?
07:36.14Spirits-Sightoops
07:36.49Spirits-SightI am geting Unable to open persistaeny property erro: 2"  what am I doing wrong?
07:37.02Spirits-SightAstainHellbring: ^
07:44.20Spirits-Sightany one able to help me PLEASE :-) I am getting a erro "Unable to open persistancy property erro: 2" ???
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08:32.00Spirits-SightI just got done installing android and all I get is the splash screen playing over and over about 50ish to don't even know times what is wrong with the setup?
08:32.34Spirits-Sightits been doing this for about 10ish min?
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08:56.50randomblamegood grief virtualbox is unstable
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09:03.13ale_____hello!
09:04.25ale_____I have a qtek and I would like install Titchy
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10:47.31phh[00:40:37] <cr2_> phh: did you switch on the cam, and played music ? <---- good point.
10:48.51phh[01:06:30] <cr2_> phh: [K] FIXME!! DEX_NOTIFY_ARM9_REBOOT_Kernel()... <----- why is that a fixme ?!?
10:51.45randomblamewhy don't I get any console messages from msm_fb
10:51.51randomblameunless it's not encountering an error
10:52.07phhrandomblame: I had the same problem sometimes, but no clue where does that come from :/
10:52.51randomblamedoes it printk something if it successfully inits, say from mddi.c
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11:00.21phhno
11:00.37phh[    1.757537] msmfb_probe() installing 480 x 800 panel
11:00.37phh[    1.780639] Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 60x100
11:00.38phhthat's all
11:00.46randomblameah
11:01.04randomblameconsole [htc_fb-1] enabled
11:01.04randomblame[    0.332153] Console: colour dummy device 80x30
11:01.13phhhtc_fb ?
11:01.14randomblameI get that crap even when htc_fb is disabled
11:01.19phhuh
11:01.24phhthen you didn't disabled it -_-'
11:01.40randomblamehold up that could be the wrong log
11:01.46phh.
11:03.10randomblameno that is the correct log
11:03.17phhthen wrong kernel config ? :p
11:03.35randomblamethat was with defconfig set to htc_fb_console=n
11:03.45phh=n or not defined ?
11:03.49randomblameshould I also have removed it from makefile
11:03.51randomblame=n
11:03.54phh-_-'
11:04.03phhthat's not the normal way to do that
11:04.10phhjust unset it from make menuconfig
11:04.39randomblame:D I usually just edit the defconfig by hand, it's quicker
11:04.50randomblamebut just comment it and set it to not set
11:05.24phhbah comment != =n
11:05.33randomblamelol
11:05.54randomblameyou know how furious I will be if that is why it doesn't work
11:06.14randomblamehow much time would be wasted just due to a lack of a "#" symbol
11:06.15phhthe other method is to add return 0; in the probe function
11:06.32randomblamein mddi.c?
11:06.38phhna in htc_fb_generic.c
11:07.29randomblamewoah where is that?
11:07.38phharch/arm/mach-msm
11:08.12randomblameno..
11:08.16phhno what ?
11:08.29phhsorry, htc_fb_console.c
11:08.30randomblamehtc_fb_console.c
11:10.15randomblamehmm wouldn't htc_fb_console unregister it self if it detected fb_msm?
11:10.28phhtheorically.
11:10.32phhbut I never got this switch working
11:10.52randomblameshould add that as a comment to that function :D
11:11.20phhna, because I'm not sure if I activated the right options in the config :p
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11:41.59randomblameodd with htc fb commented the kernel doesn't seem to work at all, no flashlight
11:42.07randomblameI have to check ramconsole
11:48.38phhhaha
11:48.39phhI love cr2.
11:51.16randomblamewow kernel doesn't start with that setting, nothing in ramconsole
11:51.19phhhuhu
11:51.27phhimpressive.
11:51.38phhthis time it's maybe worth a make clean.
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11:55.57randomblameworth a try
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12:02.00randomblamenutin
12:02.07phhnutin ?.
12:02.12randomblamenothing
12:02.16randomblameno workie
12:02.36randomblameI'm gonna redo the panel init stuff
12:02.54randomblamethough that shouldn't cause it to do nothing at all
12:06.03randomblamehahaha wrong mtype
12:06.11phhlol
12:06.22phhI forgot that one.
12:06.28phhthat's the most usual reason of such crashes :p
12:07.05randomblameserves me right for switching to that eve branch again
12:07.09randomblameit's a waste of time
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12:08.33randomblamethere we go, nothing on screen but a working flashlight
12:09.00randomblameso I should have some printk's from my frame buffer error now
12:10.46randomblamethe little things always waste the most time
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12:16.17randomblamethat time it didn't print htc_fb_device=1 but same console dummy device and no output from fb_msm
12:16.26randomblameso it must not be starting
12:18.25phhmaybe kernel is killed before fb is starting
12:20.56randomblamekernel continues all the way to freeing init memory
12:21.19randomblameso that's not it
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12:28.45Woutphh, which linux distro do you use?
12:28.49phhmandriva
12:31.04randomblamehmm well something cleared the bottom portion of the screen
12:31.34randomblamethat's new
12:34.23Spirits-SightI nstalled android and all I get is the splash screen playing over and over about 50ish to don't even know times what is wrong with the setup? ithis went on for a long time, then went to bed and woke up to the phone screen off and had to do reset to get it back on
12:35.07Spirits-Sighton this is on NAND
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12:45.15Spirits-Sightanyone around that can help I would love to get my phone start with Android so I can go out today with a phone :-)
12:49.10phhyou don't even say which board you have /o\
12:55.54Spirits-Sightsorry, its a kaiser (AT&T 8925)
12:56.05Spirits-Sightphh: ^
12:56.12Woutphh, ok thank, trying that distro as a last resort
12:56.20phhWout: why ?
12:57.09WoutBecause I've tried using ADB on three different systems now,both windows and linux (ubuntu), and it just wont see the device.
12:57.21phhWout: you're using which adb ?
12:57.34phhand running it as root without any adb daemon remaining as user ?
12:57.44Woutyeah
12:57.49Woutas far as I can tell
12:58.49WoutI'm a linux n00b, but 'sudo ./adb shell' should do the trick, right?
12:59.04phhnot if you launched adb as non root before.
13:00.11phhand you didn't answer to the question of which adb you use
13:00.20Woutwill boot into mandrive in a sec (burning live cd) and will make sure I run it as root
13:00.29makkonendoes the sdk version of adb not work on linux?
13:00.29Woutversion? just the one from the latest sdk
13:00.32phhseriously, it's not distrib related AT ALL.
13:00.39phhmakkonen: there are multiple versions of the sdk ...
13:00.50phhWout: I've never got that one working.
13:00.54Woutwell, the problem seems to be the connection between the phone and the system
13:00.59phh(but I didn't tried for a while now)
13:01.06Woutthe usb0 connection keeps dropping
13:01.15phhWout: that's just plain stupid ubuntu, don't care about that
13:01.31phhWout: try with http://husson.hd.free.fr/adb
13:01.41phhand do sudo killall -9 adb ; sudo ./adb shell
13:03.47Woutok, is that adb file an executable or archive? (cant see any extension on windows)
13:04.27phhan executable
13:04.46Spirits-SightI am trying to get Android to boot on my kaiser100 / AT&T Tilt (8925) I right now can not get passed the splash screen, I am using Marton's nbh v1, polymod's eclar (latest a4) any help would be grateful!!!
13:05.03Woutk, switching to mandrive, see you guys in a little bit
13:05.13phh.....
13:05.22makkonenSpirits-Sight: Since you've asked 4 or 5 times and no one's had an answer, I'm gonna guess that no one really knows.
13:05.53makkonenwhen I've had a working image but a hang on the splash screen, it usually comes down to something being messed on my data partition, and clearing that fixes it.
13:06.15Spirits-SightOK thanks
13:06.20makkonenbut since I assume you've never had it working, it might be something in your system.
13:07.00makkonenI would be fairly confident that it's NOT your kernel or nbh or flashing, since it's getting to the android boot.
13:09.11Spirits-Sightwell whatever it is its annorying me right now :-) just want to get android up so I can leave with a phone :-)
13:09.38makkonenunderstandable.
13:10.40Spirits-Sightright now its appears to be siting at save exit: isCheckpointed 1
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13:15.57Woutok, here goes nothing
13:17.37Spirits-Sightmakkonen: OK I did a wipe /data in the install menu, then it sat at the screen with the save exit... msg then it just switch to splash screen which is blank hten it soon will show animation (OK I hope it did before)
13:18.12Woutphh: Konsole is saying 'bash: sudo: command not found'
13:18.24phh...
13:18.30makkonenthen use 'su'
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13:22.33Wouti feel really dumb at the moment, when using su ./adb shell it outputs: su: user ./adb does not exist
13:22.48phhsu -c './adb shell'
13:23.31Woutok, got it
13:23.48Woutwoohoo, finally :D
13:24.50Woutwell, if anyone wants me to provide debug/dump info from a rhod100, I'm here :P
13:25.23makkonenwout: sudo does a command as root (get it? do?) whereas su just makes you root. so 'su' makes you root, and then until you 'exit' all the commands are executed as root. I gather su -c emulates the function of sudo, though, so don't worry about it.
13:25.53phh"emulates" sounds really weird -_-'
13:26.12makkonenapproximates?
13:26.22makkonenmimics?
13:26.22Woutthx makonnen, found that out by mistake :)
13:26.29IceBonephh: 40 minutes to 4 days uptime. :D
13:26.36Paul_awayphh, did you have any luck with camera yesterday?
13:26.36IceBone<3 02.04.
13:26.49phhmakkonen: su has been existing for way longer than sudo, including the -c parameter
13:26.55phhPaul_Ishenin: no
13:27.06phhmight be wrong video task id
13:27.14makkonenphh: true.
13:27.41makkonenactually... I wasn't aware that the -c switch had been around.
13:27.58Woutso, are all devvers here on linux? :)
13:28.05Paul_Isheninphh, what was your logcat?
13:28.15phhPaul_Ishenin: hangs on opening frame0
13:28.15IceBonelogcat is loooooooooooog :P
13:28.31phhIceBone: ?
13:28.36IceBonelongcat :P
13:28.47IceBoneruns
13:28.49Paul_Isheninframe0 is something more interesting than my errors
13:28.50phhok.
13:29.01IceBoneCome one, lighten up, grumpy linux geek!
13:29.38Paul_Isheninphh, did you use suggested memory layout?
13:29.46phhdon't know
13:30.08phhI used 14 for pmem, 8 for adsp, 2 for fb, and 8 for camera
13:30.33Paul_Isheningood enough to make it work
13:30.39Spirits-SightOK, is there any screenshot of the kaiser with NAND for boot splash? mine has a small part this is white on the bottom and the image is not look like the X clear, its like part top half streched?
13:32.02Paul_Isheninphh, did you check that camera and adsp devices was not read-only?
13:32.10phhPaul_Ishenin: ?
13:33.12Paul_Isheninhw3d was not usable until we changed chmod to 777
13:33.41phhah that problem
13:33.48phhit hangs, it doesn't exit...
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13:42.12Spirits-Sighthow easy is it to update nbh using the SD card? what do I change the name of the nbh to?
13:48.45Woutwhich device?
13:49.58makkonenmaybe KAISIMG.NBH?
13:50.09makkonenI think the vogue one is similar to that form.
13:50.18makkonenI have no idea, though. never touched a kaiser.
13:51.07WoutKAISIMG.nbh, yeah
13:52.43makkonenaw, man.
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13:54.29makkonenheh. turning touchscreen debugging on and then getting live kmsg output is sorta fun. that's a lot of output.
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14:00.00cr2_phh: they did a good job this time.
14:00.08phhcr2_: who ?
14:00.20phhand I still can't get audpp working, no clue why.
14:00.41cr2_phh: htc. the axi mpu flags are readable but not writable
14:00.46phhwow.
14:01.01phhcr2_: they are shadowed, and you have to write it in another location you mean ? :p
14:01.02cr2_the nand and pbus are not even readable
14:01.21cr2_no, they probably setup the mpu this way
14:02.18phhso how do they update radio ?
14:02.22cr2_to do everything properly i need to know which bytes to strip from oemsbl
14:02.29cr2_don't know.
14:03.18cr2_btw, in ida you can load segments manually
14:03.43cr2_so if amss is dumped from ram, it can be glued together
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14:04.20cr2_phh: can the mpu be disabled on rhod ?
14:04.54cr2_phh: in leo kernel they use the axi traffic analyzer!
14:05.03phhoO
14:05.15phhcr2_: well, writing 0 to the same address as for raph doesn't crash
14:05.16cr2_i wish to embed it into haret.
14:05.29cr2_is it really written ?
14:05.43cr2_leo does not crash too, but the value is not written
14:05.46phhbaah
14:05.56phhmight be the cause of many of my problems, I have to check
14:06.30makkonenbleh. nothing obvious in the touchpanel debug info as to why it does so many accidental double-clicks.
14:08.03phhHaRET(2)# pfw 0xA8250800 1 0
14:08.03phhHaRET(3)# pd 0xA8250800 1
14:08.03phha8250800 | 00000000                            | ....
14:08.03phhHaRET(4)#
14:10.17phhcr2_: is that what you want ?
14:12.28cr2_a824 works too ?
14:12.39phhbah I already rebooted to linux -_-'
14:12.41cr2_and a0b ?
14:12.54phhwhat's a0b ?
14:12.57cr2_then you can dump nand, oemsbl and amss
14:13.03cr2_0xa0b00000
14:13.08cr2_the nand mpu bit
14:13.13phhok
14:13.25phhand you want me to dump them I guess ?
14:14.02cr2_not nand
14:14.12phhso that's a yes.
14:14.12cr2_the oemsbl and amss
14:14.28cr2_we need to disassemble amss
14:14.37cr2_for gps rpc
14:14.43cr2_handler
14:14.57cr2_or for a9 rpc in general
14:15.06phh(while you're playing with that, you might write a free amss ? :p)
14:15.15cr2_hehe
14:15.42cr2_we may patch away the unneeded code
14:15.53phhoemsbl is the lower 1MB SMI ?
14:15.53cr2_and free some more ram :)
14:16.08cr2_it's appsbl
14:16.14cr2_it's readable anyway
14:16.16phhok, just tell me which memory space to dump.
14:16.39cr2_pwf rhod_oemsbl 0x90000000 0x100000
14:16.49cr2_oh
14:16.51Spirits-SightI just put the KAISIMG.nbh on the sd card then restart phone holding cam / power for hte kasier to load the nbh?
14:16.53phhShort write detected while writing to file
14:17.09cr2_phh: the oemsbl is at 9MB, and amss at 10MB
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14:17.25phhcr2_: in SMI ?
14:17.32cr2_phh: yes
14:17.46cr2_phh: there is a second amss part in ebi too ?
14:17.47phhyou putted too many 0 :p
14:17.51phhI think so
14:18.01phhafter 115MB EBI
14:18.08cr2_ok
14:18.16cr2_then amss_smi and amss_ebi
14:18.24rafyvittotmzt: you there?
14:24.28Spirits-SightOK I read somewhere that the newest nbh should allow touch screen for the install, however I don't have this ability with the one I downloaded from dzo? where can I get the nbh that has this ability?  also does someone know where there is a video or screenshot of kaiser booting up with NAND
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14:28.37phhcr2_: I love doing something as simple as the strings command on these files
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15:33.08vilordedvard pointed me here... any XDAndroid folks on?
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15:36.30phhvilord: yes ?
15:36.52phhvilord: where is your ril now ? I've lost its track after github
15:36.54vilordi've been trying to figure a way to align the 7x00 and 7x00a porting projects... could reasonably easily switch xdandroid to use the non-rootfs installer
15:37.15Markinusphh: Hi, I see you did some changes on rpc init for ausmgr. Is the sound now working on RHod or not?
15:37.25phhMarkinus: na that was a total mistake
15:37.40Markinusphh: ahh, ok
15:37.44vilordah its on sourceforge... http://androidhtc.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb-index.cgi
15:37.57vilordthe ril.git has two branches, one for donut, one for eclair
15:39.18Markinusphh: do you have the same problem? hanging on sound output without events or IRQs from DSP?
15:39.36phhMarkinus: yes
15:41.14phhvilord: I haven't really looked at this no-rootfs stuff, how does it work ?
15:41.34phhhum, right, rootfs is currently mostly readonly
15:42.15vilordthe basic idea is to move the contents of the rootfs into the system where it belongs, and to strip down the initrd.
15:42.33vilordit also switches from sqsh format for the /system to an ext2 file (partition still supported)
15:42.51vilordand lastly it adds an installer menu that supports updater packages
15:43.27vilordwhat i had in mind was that any system package could be used on any phone, and a different updater package could drop in the device-specific files/modules
15:43.54phhsounds right.
15:44.06phhactually the only thing I can think of that is different for msm7x00 and msm7x00a is the sensors lib
15:44.38vilordshouldn't we be able to have them as libsensors-rhodium and such so have them both on at the same time?
15:44.54vilordor doesn't it work that way? (i've never tried)
15:45.13phhthe "board type detection" is done through build.prop
15:45.23vilordah. so it isn't really detection
15:45.23phhbut that would do the trick
15:45.57phhhum, maybe that wouldn't do it because of the weird sharing mmm
15:46.13vilordhmm?
15:47.01phhvilord: there is only three levels of components, boardname (rhodium, vogue, raphael, kaiser, etc), brand (htc), platformtype (msm7k)
15:47.21phhand the sensors lib must have a name with sensors.$boardname.so or sensors.$brand.so or sensors.$platformtype.so
15:47.39phhwe can't change brand and platformtype because of propriatary libs/app relying on it
15:47.49phhand having one sensors lib per board seems crazy (even with a link)
15:48.34phhanyway that's a minor problem.
15:48.51vilordagreed, that could simply be pushed via an update package for now
15:49.41phhor a single release for everyone
15:49.58vilord(an update package is just a .tar or .tgz file... if you want to update one of the libs, you'd just put it into an empty system/lib folder, and create a tar of that)
15:50.11vilordthat would be the end goal
15:50.28phhif the difference is only a sensors lib, I think it's doable :p
15:50.33phhI just don't know how you handle wifi modules
15:50.53phhwell, all modules
15:51.05vilordyes
15:51.16phhwhat I've done is using a modules-$(uname -r).tar.gz
15:51.20phhin the root of the sdcard
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15:51.44vilordand it extracts that to where?
15:51.50phh<PROTECTED>
15:52.17vilordah okay. that is basically the same idea as the updates package, but without any detection
15:52.30vilord(i don't have detection for the updates packages i mean)
15:52.44vilordi could really quickly add that to the installer
15:53.09vilordit could handle the libs too
15:53.22phhso basically, you release a system.tar.gz, and something in the initramfs creates the proper ext2 from it ?
15:53.31vilordexactly
15:54.00phhstill separate data.img ?
15:54.45vilordyeah. it creates two .img files if you run with files, but if you have a partitioned SD card it gives you a menu to decide where to put things
15:55.02phhah, problem here.
15:55.07vilord(and once you get nand working, it gives the option to install on nand)
15:55.12phhvilord: most of our boards has no arrow to use the menu :p
15:55.23vilord:D I know
15:55.28vilordi fixed that last night
15:55.41vilordit uses the touchscreen as a fake dpad
15:56.08phhI'd prefer a graphical menu :/
15:56.21vilordyeah well... you write one then :P
15:57.11vilordthe menu just calls scripts, so if there was a graphical menu it could call the same scripts
15:57.20phhok
15:57.38phhso, what do you want me to do more precisely for that ?
15:57.52vilordmy goal was to fit it into the initrd so we wouldn't need an extra recovery tool
15:58.02vilordthe menu works out to about 80k
15:58.13phhyou have initramfs size limit ?
15:58.38vilordon vogue the limit is about 1.5 megs compressed
15:58.47phhok
15:58.57vilordwe could rearrange things to use a larger file, but that just fills up ram
15:59.53vilordso i guess i wanted to get a feeling how others felt about dumping rootfs
16:00.27phhit's more the "common build with msm7x00" that I like :p
16:00.32vilordfor vogue we have a small enough developer base that after talking with dzo i was able to just do it and everyone else just worked with it
16:00.58phhvilord: hum, how is TS calibration done for you ?
16:01.24phhah you have an external I2C TS controler, so that would be another difference mmm
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16:01.44phhstill not a major problem thouogh
16:01.45vilordtheres a very basic tool written by srwalter, it reads and dumps to some class files exposed in /sys/class
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16:02.39vilordthats mostly just kernel-side stuff, right?
16:02.55phhyes
16:03.25vilordwe'll need to align the class naming... you use /sys/class/htc (which i like) we use mostly /sys/class/vogue_hw (which i don't)
16:03.38phhnot for TS
16:03.58vilordours is something else for TS too...
16:04.13vilordts calibration also only works on vogue, polaris/nike/kaiser get nothing
16:04.39phhhtc_hw class is quite useless
16:04.58vilordah
16:05.00phhah, just enables sound in calls, forgot that one.
16:05.15vilordright, thats one of our RIL differences
16:06.07phhyou also have this htc_acoustic shared memory area to write ?
16:06.17vilordi don't think it is used
16:06.50vilord(or created), i think its just stuff in the regular msm audio libs
16:06.59vilordmostly commented out
16:07.16phh<PROTECTED>
16:07.19phhyou have it too
16:07.36vilordokey there it is
16:07.48phhwe should do that in userland like htc does, with a libhtc_acoustic
16:08.31vilordwe should...
16:08.55vilordits another bit that nobody's wanted to work on, and we've already got so many of those
16:10.27vilordaudio just barely works, and thats good enough that people start focusing on other aspects
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16:10.47phhright.
16:10.51vilordso i suppose we have different audio libraries too?
16:11.00phharf
16:11.09phhI think so
16:11.15vilordhow nice...
16:12.01mcdullis the new rootfs fixed the detection of media folder?
16:12.01vilordwe'll definitely need that .tgz detected autoloading
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16:12.45mcdullit used to default to $card/android <-- which is quite impossible for our build to be put in root.
16:13.14vilordwhat?
16:14.23vilordvogue now uses /sdcard/andboot for the installation stuff, haret, zImage, initrd.gz
16:14.46vilordthe media folder goes in /sdcard/media
16:14.57vilordand its up to the system to look at it
16:15.50mcdullumm.. our raph / topoz / etc rootfs looks up the media folder in /android/media.
16:15.50tmztthe android build will wipe your p2 and p3 be careful
16:16.15vilordwhy /android?
16:16.32mcdullno idea.. the error message showing the path.
16:16.38phhmcdull: it's only an error...
16:16.39vilordand why's rootfs have anything to do with media
16:16.40phhno consequence
16:16.50vilordhmm
16:16.57mcdulloh really? it doesn't related to no ringtone issue?
16:17.02tmztvilord: can you fix ril for the 95civic build? they could really use some help
16:17.03phhmcdull: not at all
16:17.22phhtmzt: has anyone tried htc_hw.force_cdma=1 with the normal ril ?
16:17.30vilordpossibly, what's happening with it?
16:18.10vilordand what is force_cdma, i missed that...
16:18.38phhvilord: we can't do (or I don't know.) kernel-land detection of cdma vs gsm radio
16:18.44phhand the RIL relies on the kernel to tell him which one to use
16:19.47vilordis there a common mtype between gsm and cdma?
16:19.55phhyes
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16:20.30phhthe only known difference from the linux point of view between those two are ... well one handle gsm, the other cdma, the other both ...
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16:21.08tmztphh: the theory is the cfun is needed but waiting for sim is nor
16:21.21tmztalso, data needs to be #777 and ppp on smd7
16:21.30tmzti've done that in debian before
16:21.30phhAH !
16:21.33phhtotally forgot that one !
16:21.42phhtmzt: it works in debian ?
16:22.08tmztyeah
16:22.15tmztI used my script from raph
16:22.20phhweird
16:22.41tmztI really want this to work I think I can switch to it
16:22.52tmztbut data is neccessary
16:22.53phh<PROTECTED>
16:22.53phh<PROTECTED>
16:22.54phh<PROTECTED>
16:22.56tmztand a working term
16:22.57phhwe have this in the kernel.
16:23.20phhtmzt: can you test with a recent kernel if cdma data still works ?
16:23.33tmztsmd7 should be the right one
16:23.40tmztnot smd1 like on cdma raph
16:23.45tmzthmm
16:23.50phhah ?
16:24.02phhI never know who is where -_-'
16:24.03tmztnot 100% sure
16:24.12ToAsTcfh\o/ the cable dude fixed my internet
16:24.19tmztlost my debian to that installer
16:24.23phh\o/ someone did his job today \o/
16:24.28phh(sorry.)
16:24.32vilordit would be better if we could set the kernel to use the same smd number for all devices
16:24.40ToAsTcfhlol
16:24.41phhvilord: that's what is done actually
16:24.43tmztit should be 7
16:24.47tmzt1 should be diag
16:24.59phhtmzt: right, that's what is done then
16:25.10vilordwhy 7?
16:25.17phhvilord: no idea.
16:25.28phhask qualcomm
16:25.31ToAsTcfhhe didnt know whatt to think about my linux box though. he was kinda lost :P
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16:26.23phhtmzt: so I'm pretty sure that with htc_hw.force_cdma it should work
16:26.25vilorddo the official devices use 7?
16:26.35phhvilord: official devices doesn't use smd_tty
16:26.46phhthey use qmi
16:26.54vilordphh: so we can use whatever number we like
16:27.17phhvilord: this number has a meaning in the communication between A9 and A11
16:27.28vilordah
16:27.42phhbut still, we put everyone's data connection on /dev/smd1
16:27.54vilordthats good
16:28.13vilordcomms between a9 and a11 is kernel/hardware layer, shouldn't affect userspace
16:28.21phhvilord: yes
16:28.39Woutphh: does automatic backlight control need to be off in winmo for backlight adjusting in android to work?
16:28.45phhWout: yes
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16:28.57phhWout: I haven't figured out how to disable it yet.
16:28.59Woutah, ok
16:29.05phhreboot, brb
16:30.04vilordtmzt: what is this 95civic build?
16:30.27vilordis it a sqsh for use on raph?
16:32.19tmztit's for cdma/gsm rhod
16:32.21vilordToAsTcfh: treading a fine line, showing the cable dude you're running linux :) I usually just get them to make it work with my 8 yo windows laptop
16:32.22ToAsTcfhwhat advantages are there to squashfs on android devices? i mean i see that its compressed and that makes it smaller but when u use apps2sd system size really makes no difference. or does it?
16:32.33tmztppcgeeks.com rhod forum
16:32.44vilordi agree, there's no advantage to sqsh
16:32.52vilordthats why i got rid of it
16:32.56phhToAsTcfh: might be quicker
16:33.46vilordthere's a bottleneck between the SD card and the system, but we also don't have the fastest processors in the world
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16:34.19vilordso forcing our processor to uncompress stuff all the time makes things slow too. really, a partitioned card is the way to go
16:34.31tmztyep
16:34.33vilord(or nand once you get there)
16:34.49tmztwhy did people use sqsh to begin with?
16:35.03phhvilord: I tried partitioned card, and it wasn't any better
16:35.14phhit was actually worst, it lost more often data
16:35.35bzohi vilord, good to see you here :)
16:36.18vilordwe used compressed systems because the data interface out to the SD was unreliable... compressed meant less data over the wire, so less chance of it getting corrupted or something... i never really understood
16:36.37tmztvilord: doesn't seem to be anything really special about 95civic it just needs a modified ril so for cdma data (#777)
16:36.38vilordphh: where are you losing data?
16:36.45tmztvoice works already
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16:36.50phhvilord: unproper stop
16:36.54vilordwhy a modified RIL?
16:36.59tmztuse ext4 :)
16:37.11ToAsTcfheh im tryin to get the squashed system to work but im having issues. wish i had haret at this point :P
16:37.13tmztbecause it doesn't use pdp contexts
16:37.23phhtmzt: just forcing cdma with my kernel param should be enough again
16:37.25tmztI'm using it on cdma networks
16:37.36vilordhah. ext4 any better than ext3 at destroying sd cards?
16:37.40tmztwhy doesn't it detect that?
16:37.59tmzthmm just put that in default.txt?
16:38.00phhtmzt: no clue how to detect it
16:38.01tmztcmdline
16:38.04phhyes
16:38.08tmztmtype?
16:38.13phhsame mtype as usual
16:38.16tmztwhat's the line
16:38.22phhhtc_hw.force_cdma=1
16:38.27tmztno, I mean can't we detect based on mtype?
16:38.32tmztok
16:38.41phhtmzt: and how we do for GSM+CDMA devices ? :p
16:38.56phhand another mtype when the only difference is the ril, I don't really like that.
16:39.00vilordwhat gsm+cdma devices are there?
16:39.17phhrhod400
16:39.20vilordah
16:39.27Woutwow, android looks even better with brightness to max
16:39.28tmztrhod500
16:39.39IceBoneIt'll look even better with Sense.
16:40.02WoutIt'll be slower with Sense ;)
16:40.09phhWout: not sure.
16:40.14phhIceBone: diam hasn't enough memory
16:40.17phhWVGA devices has no hw3d
16:40.18vilorddoes it just use one serial control channel for both cdma and GSM?
16:40.21IceBoneWout: yes, but that's not what I said. :P
16:40.25IceBonephh: I know. :(
16:40.28phhthe only device that could possibly have sense is raphael :p
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16:40.30phhvilord: use
16:40.32phhyes*
16:40.48WoutI like the look of sense, but after being on winmo for so long I really like the speed of regular android
16:40.54IceBoneAre there at least any programs that would make it more sense-like? I'd want the... weather widget and dialer. Maybe flickr integration. That's it.
16:41.11mcdullopen home.
16:41.19phhIceBone: google GlobalWeather.apk
16:41.25IceBoneThanks.,
16:41.28phhand home++ has the clocks
16:41.38vilordin winmo do you have to choose cdma or GSM?
16:41.50IceBoneWell, you can get the clocks from the market.
16:41.55IceBoneApart from the flipclock+weather
16:42.11IceBonephh: global weather = widget or full app?
16:42.17phhIceBone: widget from acer liquid
16:42.28vilordif you are activated on both, how can the radio tell which to use for sending a call?
16:42.34vilordhmm
16:42.42ToAsTcfhphh: any luck on the cam?
16:42.59phhToAsTcfh: no
16:43.02IceBoneright...
16:43.19ToAsTcfhdamn it man the internet is still fudged errr
16:44.23phhToAsTcfh: I have the same as problem as for audio on amss 6125 -_-'
16:44.24IceBoneAw, great... now I'm gonna have to start wireless. And when I turn it off, it'll reboot the phone. :(
16:44.28IceBoneAfter 4 days of uptime!
16:45.20ToAsTcfhso its adsp or even the whole qdsp5 port?
16:45.30phhToAsTcfh: adsp
16:45.39ToAsTcfherr
16:45.45phhIceBone: why ?
16:45.49phhIceBone: google + adb install :p
16:46.00IceBoneadb?
16:46.36ToAsTcfhthat shit we had to really hack. even when i attemped it the second go round i still ended up using to much code from .27 i think
16:47.42IceBoneno get :(
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16:48.19phhIceBone: you have no adb ?
16:48.25IceBoneI don't even know what that is!
16:48.29phhah.
16:48.34phhandroid debugger bridge
16:48.35IceBoneThat's why I asked. 17:46:14 <IceBone> adb?
16:48.40IceBoneOh.
16:48.41IceBoneNo.
16:49.13vilordphh: so what do we still need to figure out for dumping rootfs and getting closer to a common image? modules, audio & sensor libs, RIL
16:49.20mcdullADB: that's the interface to communication with android device with your OS (windows / *nix)
16:49.30phhvilord: I think that's all
16:50.22Paul_Isheninphh, made a fresh checkout of the camera branch and indeed I see not errors after the VFE init (which I had yesterday)
16:50.30phhok
16:50.53Paul_Isheninprobably merge of the main brang has gone wrong
16:51.19IceBone4 days 2 hours
16:51.26phhIceBone: that sucks :p
16:51.50IceBoneand poof
16:51.51IceBone:(
16:52.03vilordphh: ok i'll look at making a couple more changes to the installer to work with detected modules files...
16:52.16tmztso force_cdma breaks calls
16:52.21phhtmzt: oO
16:52.52vilordtmzt: does 95civic have the RIL source out there somewhere?
16:53.22vilordwe need to get back to a common RIL...
16:53.25phhtmzt: and no data connection I guess ?
16:53.26tmztvilord: we know wm can switch modes
16:53.34tmztwould htc log help here?
16:53.40phhyes
16:53.46tmztsomebody remind me how to do that?
16:53.58tmztno registration
16:54.14tmztvilord: his checkout instructions are on the second post of the thread
16:54.15IceBonehttp://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6456/snap20100109163552.png <-- this one looks to have 5 home screens, but nothing extra. What is this?
16:54.19Paul_Isheninphh, did you notice any differences between your and mine camera.apk?
16:54.19tmztbut I think it's xd
16:54.26phhpwf at-dump 0x1f1c210 0x4096
16:54.28phhI'd say.
16:54.40tmztnot atcmdlog?
16:54.43vilordi'll check it out tonight
16:54.55phhtmzt: it's just an output file, you can call it the way you want.
16:54.59tmzthmm I should haret port forwarded through putty
16:55.08IceBoneIs it an Acer Liquid thing?
16:55.09tmztnah, that's a registry key
16:55.17phhah that.
16:55.22phhdon't know how it works
16:55.29IceBoneI'd like 5 screens too. :(
16:56.01xJDxLauncher2 has 5 screens
16:56.02phhIceBone: home++ is nice. but its' not the basic android launcher with 5 screens.
16:56.12IceBoneYeah, that's what I'm looking for.
16:56.15IceBoneJust 2 more home screens.
16:56.15phhxJDx: it doesn't work, don't know why
16:56.21xJDxheh
16:56.22IceBoneNo extra garbage.
16:56.24xJDxI could fix that
16:56.53mcdullLauncher2 need 3D I guess.
16:57.07xJDxyeh, or it's slow
16:57.15phhmcdull: IceBone has a diam100 :p
16:57.32xJDxphh: Are you running a midp?
16:57.32IceBoneYeah, sucks to be me. :P
16:57.36phhxJDx: midp ?
16:57.52IceBonehttp://hpp.intuitit.mobi/news/launcherbetapublished
16:57.55IceBoneOooh, let's try this!
16:58.04xJDxmdpi* (screen)
16:58.10xJDxmediums display
16:58.21phhI can't see what this is
16:58.36xJDxYou've got 3d, right?
16:58.38vilordtmzt: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1134752&postcount=1
16:58.42phhxJDx: yes
16:58.53xJDxWhat version Android? 2.1?
16:58.56tmztvilord: and ppcgeeks touchpro 2
16:59.06phhxJDx: a weird mix.... let's say 2.0.
16:59.23vilord(that link is the atdbglog registry stuff)
16:59.29xJDxGive me a minute
16:59.34xJDxIll compile a new Launcher2
16:59.56vilordk gtg, i'll look at the RIL differences tonight, hopefully we can get back to a common one.
17:00.26mcdullenvy the diam100
17:00.40phhmcdull: seriously I have no clue why 3D doesn't work on WVGA devices :'(
17:00.46vilordat least you don't have raph500
17:01.36mcdullphh, the best guess would be pmem issue, right?
17:01.42phhmcdull: yes
17:01.51IceBoneok, downloading launcher+ beta from market
17:02.00adamwgoddamnit phh if you don't fix stuff faster we're gonna have to confiscate your rhod ;)
17:02.07phhadamw: nianiania.
17:02.26phhthis sound stuff is driving me crazy
17:02.46mcdullphh, then let me keeps on trials and errors. I do picked up a book from public library , to learn from basic.. ha..
17:03.13phhI need a raph100 user, any around ?
17:03.20adamwphh: it sounds like pretty much the same problem markinus hit, maybe it's the same as topaz?
17:03.27phhadamw: it is the same yes
17:03.36adamwah k, fun
17:03.44adamwso at least if either of you figures it out we're ok for both :)
17:03.50phhadamw: na.
17:03.58Markinusadamw: but no fun :(
17:04.02phheven if this audpptask problem is fixed, rhod will have a lot of troubles after that
17:04.09xJDxdamn it
17:04.11phh(but easily fixable though)
17:04.13xJDxhave to do a make clean
17:04.17xJDxmight take a while
17:04.22phhxJDx: of android tree ?
17:04.27mcdulldoes the sign of  /*    */ works with sh script?
17:04.27xJDxshould have something working for you soon though phh
17:04.34phhmcdull: no
17:04.37xJDxyeh, have to rebuild android completely
17:04.41phhxJDx: hehe, have fun
17:04.46xJDxfor some reason it takes forever on here :(
17:04.48mcdullok. thx.
17:04.57adamwphh: just for audio, I meant.
17:05.03phhadamw: yes, just for audio.
17:05.05adamwmcdull: for shell scripts comment with # .
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17:05.20phhadamw: you know all the double mic, noise cancellation and friends stuff
17:05.22adamwyou can't really do a 'comment block' though, you just have to comment each line.
17:05.32adamwphh: oh that crap, heh.
17:05.46phhadamw: it should be quite easy still
17:06.07adamwi kinda assumed it would all be done in hardware and just look like a regular sound interface to the kernel? guess not
17:06.19phhit's all done in hardware
17:06.22IceBoneHey, cool!
17:06.27phhbut you have to tell the hardware to set the sound on :p
17:06.28IceBoneLauncher+ does exactly what I want!
17:06.34adamwphh: hmm, true :)
17:06.40mcdulladamw, yeah, I got 50 lines to comment, just check if there are any better ways.
17:06.42IceBoneNow to just customize it the way I had before.
17:07.12adamwmcdull: for a shell script? nope.
17:07.32mcdulladamw, ok, its just time.
17:07.44adamwmcdull: i just bet emacs has a shortcut for 'comment out these fifty lines', though ;)
17:08.26mcdulladamw, ar.. still a lot of basic stuff to learn.
17:08.35adamwoh, i don't go near emacs
17:08.39adamwuses nano. or gedit.
17:08.47xJDxnano ftw.
17:08.53adamwbut i tend to work on the principle that emacs is capable of doing anything. it's usually true.
17:09.01IceBone7 screens! :o
17:09.01phhMarkinus: I wonder if we should try qdsp5v2 or qdsp5_comp :/
17:09.20mcdullactually I tried to use vim, but never got used to .
17:09.23xJDxphh: You have ADB, yeh?
17:09.30phhxJDx: sure
17:09.34AstainZZZZZZmorning
17:09.40xJDxWhen the app is built, use adb to install it
17:09.49xJDx(to avoid dependancy issues)
17:10.10xJDxbut give me an hour to build it, lol
17:10.10phhok
17:10.15phhhehe
17:10.29xJDxam I the only one that it takes that long for :(
17:10.39phhxJDx: android is a hgue monster
17:10.43phhone hour is quite short to build it
17:10.49xJDxreally?
17:10.56mcdullphh, which machine you are going to try the launcher2 on?
17:11.03xJDxThere's a few dudes saying it takes 20~40 minutes
17:11.03phhmcdull: diam100
17:11.07phhxJDx: oO
17:11.16phhxJDx: well if there tree hasn't beel cleaned then ?
17:11.25IceBonephh: I'm up for that too, if it works.
17:11.31IceBoneAlso... the acer weather widget doesn't. :(
17:11.32xJDxIf I havn't cleaned it takes <1min
17:11.41phhIceBone: hum, what do you mean with doesn't work ?
17:11.48IceBoneKeeps force closing.
17:11.51IceBoneWhen I try to add it.
17:11.53xJDxAthlon X2 x64 - 2.1Ghz Mobile
17:11.55IceBoneCould be the launcher+
17:11.57IceBoneOne moment.
17:12.01phhxJDx: only one hour with that ?
17:12.03phhwaw.
17:12.06xJDxYeh
17:12.09xJDxapprox one hour
17:12.13phhIceBone: you're not in landscape mode ?
17:12.21xJDxand I build more shit in it than most do
17:12.24IceBoneno
17:12.59xJDxI should try and get an "open" sapphire version up, there's not too much need for all this proprietry shit like there was before
17:13.07IceBoneDamn, shouldn't have ticked don't ask me again... for home selection. :(
17:13.19IceBoneHow do I get that dialog back?
17:13.20phhIceBone: haha.
17:13.23phhIceBone: I did that on Launcher2.
17:13.30phhwhich just doesn't start
17:13.32phhthat's quite funny.
17:13.35IceBoneApart from uninstalling.
17:13.48phhIceBone: somewhere in settings => applications
17:15.09IceBoneAh yeah, manage application, launcher+, clear defaults
17:15.36xJDx[04:13] <phh> IceBone: I did that on Launcher2.
17:15.42xJDxLol and it FC'd?
17:15.49phhxJDx: FC ?
17:15.53phhwell it just looped crashing
17:15.54xJDxforce closed
17:15.58phhyes
17:16.01xJDxhahaha
17:16.03xJDxowned :P
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17:16.20phhand the only way I found to come back from that was to reset my data -_-'
17:16.21xJDxand you cant even use settings.apk without it (which sucks really)
17:16.38xJDxYou can change it if you can get into settings
17:16.44phhor with a sqlite3 command
17:16.49phhanyway I had no real data
17:16.52xJDxor you probably could have removed the Launcher2
17:16.56phhah
17:17.01phhI did that once too.
17:17.07phh(yes I got tricked three times.)
17:17.11xJDxlmao
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17:17.16IceBonephh: first time trying to add acer weather, it force closed, second, just did nothing.
17:17.17xJDxI've done it by accident
17:17.24phhIceBone: third ? :p
17:17.26xJDxfirst boot, phone lags, wrong buttons, lol
17:17.26phhxJDx: me too ...
17:17.28IceBonetrying
17:17.35phhnot because of lags, because of big fingers
17:17.46xJDxI bet you say that to all the girls
17:17.52xUmaRixopenhome 4.5 work on hd with latest kernel
17:17.58IceBoneFirst white screen, then black.
17:18.01IceBoneThen back to home.
17:18.11phhI ticked the box and then pressed on home++.
17:18.13mcdullxUmaRix, is it stable?
17:18.17phhbut it moved in the meantime
17:18.20phhand bam, launcher2
17:18.25xUmaRixso far so good mcdull
17:18.46mcdullxUmaRix, good to learn this.
17:18.50xUmaRixadding some widgets may crash the appz
17:19.02xJDxlol phh
17:19.51IceBoneAny other weather widget? :(
17:20.42Markinusphh: maybe . . . I tested the stuff from Hero but this was crashing on audio start
17:20.57phhMarkinus: ok
17:21.02mcdullxUmaRix, is it speedy? my previous experience is that it keeps me to wait with no response.
17:21.24xUmaRixi managed to run android on 4 part sdcard p1 (FAT32) p2(ext2) p3(ext2) p4(swap)
17:21.40IceBone4.9 mb app and it's broken! :'(
17:21.45xUmaRixswap enabled on 580MB linux swap partitioned
17:22.10xUmaRixp2(ext2) = /data p3(ext2) = /system
17:22.50xUmaRixi posted a screenshot at blackstone thread at xda
17:23.04phhswap ? on SD ?
17:23.09phhtell me when your SD dies :p
17:23.13xJDxlol
17:23.19xUmaRixlol
17:23.24xJDxWhy do people insist on using SD?
17:23.32xUmaRixjust testing
17:23.42phhxJDx: well, on diamond that wouldn't be that stupid.
17:23.59xJDxWhy?
17:24.15xUmaRixelaborate more on swap phh
17:24.18phhxJDx: 107MB.
17:24.20xJDxI think it's stupid either way, unless you have lots of spare SD's
17:24.31xJDx107MB Data partition?
17:24.37phhxUmaRix: swaps does a lot of I/O
17:24.42xUmaRixshud i disable swap on blackstone
17:25.27xUmaRixi understand swap tends to store actively use apps in it to speed up app launcher
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17:25.54Woutwould moving android to internal storage in the future speed everything up? or would it only affect load times?
17:25.59phhxUmaRix: just don't expect your SD to live longer than 6months
17:26.13phhWout: ask chamonix.
17:26.16phhhe has android on nand
17:26.39xUmaRixguess swapoff /dev/block/mmcblk0p4
17:26.42xUmaRixthx phh
17:26.43Woutcool, didn't know it was possible already
17:26.56xUmaRixso the best setup is running without swap ?
17:27.06mcdullsomeone claims a temp fix for wake up issue for HD.
17:27.09phhWout: we just have to talk loudlier than wince to the nand :p
17:27.15phhmcdull: oh a temp fix is easy
17:27.21phhrevert the backlight off patch.
17:27.52xJDxphh: up to opencore now
17:27.54mcdullphh, after revert, will the system goes deep sleep?
17:27.59xJDxGonna go have a shower :-)
17:27.59Woutphh, could you give me that link to ADB again?
17:28.05phhmcdull: sure, deep sleep is not related to backlight at all
17:28.10phhWout: http://husson.hd.free.fr/adb
17:28.20mcdullphh, that work around is to use an app "SetCPU"
17:28.27phhmcdull: lol ?
17:28.34xUmaRixphh the best is to switch off swap ?
17:28.35mcdullbut I have no idea on how it can works.
17:28.46phhxUmaRix: bah if you don't care about your SD card, do as you want
17:28.48xUmaRixi have swap partitioned on my sdcard
17:28.53phhmcdull: I'd bet on kills suspend
17:28.57mcdullphh, 4) Set Max at 528MHz and Min at 245MHz, enable "Set on Boot" and let CPU Governor as "On demand"
17:29.09phhmcdull: and it really works ?
17:29.11xUmaRixyep already set using setCPU
17:29.16xUmaRixsometimes it works
17:29.21mcdullnot sure.. I need to check...
17:29.32mcdullxUmaRix, if you says sometimes, means it doesn;t work.
17:29.35phhxUmaRix: so as without it
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17:29.56mcdullsometime I got it to wake after a days.. sometimes not after 2 minutes.
17:29.58xUmaRixim afraid to confirm on this as other stuff tend to mess around with deep sleep
17:30.45mcdullso the backlight off patch may somehow kills the i2c?
17:31.03xUmaRixwell im confused on ramzswap compcache backingswap etc
17:31.31phhmcdull: yup
17:31.59tmztnothing
17:32.12xUmaRixdid u set swap on ur android phh ?
17:33.39phhxUmaRix: only ramzswap
17:33.57xUmaRixlet say i have swap partitioned on my sd
17:34.05xUmaRixi set ramzswap dev to mmcblk0p4
17:34.16phhI don't know much about this ramzswap feature :/
17:34.50xUmaRixramzswap is backingswap in compcache issit?
17:34.57phhramzswap=compcache
17:35.43IceBoneOk, set up launcher+ :)
17:35.45IceBoneIs nice!
17:36.43mcdullphh, where did you get those values for the blackstone backlight management?
17:36.51phhmcdull: I didn't
17:36.55phhit's yoyey
17:37.02phhbut they are easily dumpable
17:37.06phhjust mmutrace the i2c registers
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17:37.31mcdullI see.. that's interesting.
17:41.16tmztwrong address?
17:41.47phhtmzt: no, timing problems I think
17:42.31phhmcdull: if you want to compare with yoyey's patch I can explain you how to do this dump
17:42.47tmztphh: comp is for a composite module image?
17:42.57phhtmzt: compatibility I think
17:43.16xUmaRixphh could u share ur userinit.sh
17:43.23phhxUmaRix: ?
17:43.25phhI have standard one
17:43.27tmztcan't get at log
17:43.29xUmaRixim trying to enable ramzswap
17:43.38tmztcan somebody strings the settings program?
17:43.49xUmaRixcant get disksize up to 32MB
17:43.51tmztvil: find it?
17:43.56tmztuhh
17:43.58phhmcdull: board-htcblackstone-panel.no_blk_off=1
17:44.11phhb*kl*
17:44.13tmztshould lcd density be 240 on wvga?
17:44.19mcdulltmzt, yes
17:44.24tmztwhy?
17:44.31mcdullphh, where to set this?
17:44.34phhmcdull: cmdline
17:44.40phhmcdull: but wait for new kernel first :p
17:44.49mcdullo.
17:44.51mcdullok
17:44.57mcdullwhat does that do?
17:45.06phhdisables yoyey's patch
17:45.07phhtheorically.
17:45.24mcdullok, will try that.
17:45.29phhpushed, will be at glemsom's soon
17:45.40mcdullI will pull and compile myself.
17:46.50mcdullerr, I got this, >> error: Entry 'arch/arm/mach-msm/pmem.c' not uptodate. Cannot merge.
17:47.09phhgit reset --hard
17:47.12phhbut you'll lost your changes
17:47.24tmztumm
17:47.30mcdullI remembered I didn't change any of the file.
17:47.33tmztdon't do all of the files
17:47.36tmztjust the one
17:47.39phhmcdull: seems you did :p
17:47.45phhtmzt: how ?
17:47.48Paul_Isheningit diff will help to see
17:47.53tmztappend the path
17:48.01phhtmzt: didn't work when I tried it
17:48.13tmzthmm
17:48.24phhit thaught it is a commit name
17:48.27tmztis there diff junk in that file?
17:48.32tmzttry --
17:49.33tmztwhat's the rhod400/500 at buffer?
17:49.46tmztor is it just pwd doesn't like the file
17:50.27tmztI'll try opera
17:52.06IceBoneAnyone know what the pure grid calendar .apk is called?
17:52.17tmztnothing there either
17:52.22tmztIceBone: #android ?
17:52.53IceBoneall right, all right
17:54.23tmztphh: what's the buffer?
17:54.58phhpwf at-dump 0x1f1c210 0x4096
17:56.15tmztdidn't work
17:56.19tmztempty
17:56.27tmzthmm
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17:57.41tmztwhy does it say 16k
17:57.57Paul_Isheninphh, what can be the reason of i2c_write_w failed, addr = 0x301a, val = 0x1009! after I merge the htc-msm-2.6.27 branch into camera branch?
17:58.08phhPaul_Ishenin: no clue
17:58.16Paul_IsheninI see the changes and I can't figure out
17:58.29Paul_Isheninwith the pure camera branch my adb does not work
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18:02.09mcdullphh, the patch was not disabled with your new kernel.
18:02.29mcdullphh, added board-htcblackstone-panel.no_blk_off=1 to the command line.
18:02.53phhyou mean that backlight goes totally off with it ?
18:03.17mcdullyes
18:03.37phhyou're sure of that ? it isn't easily visible wether it is totally off or not
18:03.48mcdullI switched off the light.
18:03.54mcdull(I mean my house)
18:04.19bzomcdull: do you have a typo? it is no_bkl_off not no_blk_off
18:04.27xJDxmaybe it's gonna take more than an hour phh... its doing other stuff, but I'm at webkit now
18:04.34phhxJDx: hehe
18:04.38phhbzo: eh right.
18:04.40mcdullumm... sorry.. I just copy and paste..
18:04.51mcdullso could be this case.. I would amend it.
18:04.51phhmcdull: I corrceted myself after -_-'
18:05.18phhmaybe not clearly
18:10.00IceBoneFecking rapidshare...
18:10.18phhpreventsharing you mean ? :;p
18:10.26IceBoneya...
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18:10.41IceBonefound a nice calendar widget and also trying beautiful widgets, but noooo
18:10.42IceBoneno slots free
18:10.45IceBoneeugh...
18:11.59IceBoneOh, come fucking on, it's only 200 kbs!!
18:12.24phhhehe
18:12.32phhthe slowest 200kbs ever
18:12.43IceBoneglances at his fully available 10 mbps...
18:12.45xJDxlol
18:12.54xJDxI have 8mbps
18:13.04xJDxshould soon have about 20 :)
18:13.12IceBoneWon't matter anyway, no slots free,
18:13.19xJDxlol
18:13.24phhmy connection isn't able to give me more than 18Mbps :(
18:13.42mcdullphh, woo.. reverted backlight is a lot nicer.
18:13.52xJDxWhat sort of connection phh? and where?
18:13.54mcdullwake up at once.. no wait.
18:13.55phhxJDx: ADSL
18:13.57phhFrance
18:14.01xJDxADSL2+ ?
18:14.07phhyes
18:14.28xJDxSame here, but I'm 2902 metres from exchange :(
18:14.37phhmcdull: yes I noticed the same trhing with my rhodI
18:14.45phhI wonder if I shouldn't disable panel off on diam.
18:14.54phhxJDx: 1800 :p
18:15.06mcdullthe patch seems to hard code everything that I have no way to understand.
18:15.27xJDxHeh, Soon ill be within a few hundred metres from the exchange :P
18:15.30xJDxso 20mbps+
18:15.47phhmcdull: just find lcm's datasheet
18:16.45mcdullis it publicly available ?
18:16.55IceBoneAnyone got any other sources for beautiful widgets?
18:16.57jamenlang1sorry to interject, what does AMSS stand for?
18:17.04xJDxphh: Have you got any live wallpapers yet?
18:17.24phhxJDx: yes they work
18:17.33tmztadvanced mobile subscriber software
18:17.33xJDxWhat processor you have?
18:17.35xJDxARM EABI?
18:17.43phhxJDx: as everyone :p
18:17.45xJDxI mean, type od*
18:17.46xJDxof
18:17.57xJDxisn't the Snapdragon not Eabi?
18:18.10phheabi isn't a type of processor, it's... an abi :p
18:18.17phhand I think it uses eabi as well
18:18.21tmzthuh
18:18.27phhwell, just assume I have a hero that'd be enough.
18:18.29tmztyeah
18:18.32xJDxHeh
18:18.33phhan hero with a WVGA screen and a keyboard :p
18:18.40phhand nice looking
18:18.47xJDxhas HVGA :(
18:18.51IceBoneah hero? :P
18:19.04IceBoneYou've been spending too much time on 4chan. :P
18:19.22phhIceBone: ?
18:19.35phhMarkinus: adsp's irq registration is correct.
18:19.46xJDxIceBone?!?
18:19.55xJDx4chan is for kiddie porn.
18:20.05xJDx;\
18:20.13IceBone"an hero"
18:20.22xJDxoh lol
18:20.38xJDx"a hero"
18:20.45phhah.
18:20.47xJDxbut you wrote "ah hero"
18:20.47Markinusphh: ok
18:20.49IceBoneAnd no, 4chan is quite against kiddie porn. 7chan is for kiddie porn.
18:21.00IceBoneAnd gurochan is just... fucked up.
18:21.01phhMarkinus: so that leaves... well... pretty much nothing I can see left.
18:21.16xJDxIceBone: They don't allow it, but we all know that's what half of 4chan is
18:21.24Markinusphh: yes, I know this . .. a bit frustrating . .
18:21.24xJDxHence, why I don't go on 4chan anymore
18:21.33phhMarkinus: tried comparing clocks before/after ?
18:21.48Markinusphh: no, I did nothing with clocks
18:22.59phhI wondered why so many rhod/topa people want so badly the power off to work.
18:23.01phhNow I know why.
18:23.10Markinusphh: Are on Rhod the ADIE changes too?
18:23.30phhMarkinus: AFAIK, ADIE are only analogic parameters, so not related to our problem yet
18:23.43Markinusphh: ahhh, ok
18:23.53Woutphh, why then? I just pop out the battery
18:24.01phhWout: with usb plugged in ? :p
18:24.08phhyou also have to unplug usb
18:24.11phhit's really annoying
18:25.16phhcr2_: is the AXIGS/AXIGE mapped in wince ?
18:25.18xJDxlol I hate that the phone goes off when it's USB only, let alone that it comes back on auto when it has USB + Battery
18:25.43cr2_phh: ioremapped maybe
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18:25.51phhcr2_: hard to trace then.
18:25.52cr2_phh: yes, i think they are in wiki
18:26.03phh? i don't remember of it mmm
18:26.18cr2_a bit innacurately though
18:27.39cr2_uh. rtecdc.bin on leo is different from rhod is different from s200
18:27.49phhcr2_: do you think 3D engine needs special axi care ?
18:28.18cr2_rhod and leo have rtecdc1.bin too
18:28.26xJDxphh: Are you running your own System.img ?
18:28.31cr2_phh: axivg ?
18:28.32phhxJDx: no
18:28.41phhcr2_: uh ?
18:28.50phhcr2_: 3D engine access to EBI/SMI
18:30.23xJDxphh: Can you pastebing me an "adb shell getprop" please
18:33.24phhxJDx: http://en.pastebin.ca/1804866
18:33.34xJDxty
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18:33.41cr2_phh: it's a separate subsystem on axi bus
18:33.50phhcr2_: ah ?
18:33.56phhcr2_: do you know anything about it ?
18:34.16cr2_no, but i've seen the cpu diagramm somewhere
18:35.34cr2_lol. they say wince is fast on leo
18:35.44cr2_i did cd \windows
18:35.58cr2_waited 3 minutes for something to happen
18:36.31Markinuscr2_: I have a leo now too . .  .very nice. .
18:36.51xJDxphh: are you running in emulator?
18:36.57phhxJDx: no
18:36.58Markinuscr2_: If you need something for test or so . . .
18:37.14phhxJDx: it looks like it ?
18:37.17cr2_Markinus: need to fix the 'mrc' problems
18:37.43phhneed to fix sound first :'(-
18:37.47xJDxphh: The properties don't show a network... eg. [gsm.sim.operator.numeric]: []
18:37.50cr2_phh: btw, i've added the audio queue numbers as they were in raph100
18:37.59phhxJDx: yes this phone has no sim
18:38.11xJDxphh: CDMA?
18:38.23phhxJDx: no, GSM, but still  no sim :p
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18:38.40phhhi chamonix.
18:38.40xJDxphh: Fair enough, but market etc wont work with that :P
18:38.43phhtime to eat
18:38.43Markinusphh: I'm working in the moment only for Topaz, . . till now my Leao is a Linux virgin . .
18:38.46phhxJDx: what about wifi ?
18:38.52phhMarkinus: lol
18:39.09phhxJDx: and who cares about android's market, I have my own market :D
18:39.16xJDxphh: Not unless you set the properties to a network operator...
18:39.25xJDxphh: Your own?
18:39.58cr2_Markinus: backup the *.bin abd *.acdb from \windows
18:40.05mcdullwhy gpu1 must be in EBI?
18:40.06cr2_Markinus: we will need them
18:40.26mcdulljust becoz SMI has no space left? or can it be put in EBIN?
18:40.52cr2_mcdull: wtf is EBIN ?
18:41.27Markinuscr2_: ok
18:42.14mcdullcr2_,  the second bank of EBI I guess, the variable name taken from the peme.c
18:42.21mcdullpmem.c
18:44.28cr2_mcdull: ok
18:46.28mcdullbut that's it for today.. need to start working for the week tomorrow. time to sleep. Good night / morning / evening to all of you.
18:50.19IceBoneStill nothing on those 200 kbs.
18:50.30IceBoneIf they had faxed me the 1s and 0s, it'd be done by now.
18:51.07adamwleaving you with merely the trivial task of rescanning it all!
18:53.31IceBoneIt would still be faster than rapidshare.
18:54.01AstainHellbringmorning cr2_ whats new?
18:56.27Markinuscr2_: I've the files, http://www.multiupload.com/MEEPJARKJ7
18:58.44cr2_AstainHellbring: nothing groundbreaking
18:58.47cr2_Markinus: ok
18:59.32phhxJDx: ~/AndroidApps :p
18:59.47xJDxIt failed build ;\
19:00.07phh[19:44:09] <mcdull> just becoz SMI has no space left? or can it be put in EBIN? <---- according to hero's source, it can be in EBIN
19:00.14phhaccording to some raph's test, it can't
19:00.19phhI guess it has something to do with this axivg
19:00.20xJDxphh: Soon
19:00.25phhxJDx: soon failed ? :p
19:00.36xJDxYeh, gimme another hour or so
19:00.40phh-_-'
19:00.47xJDxre gitting.
19:00.57xJDxthe whole O/S
19:00.58xJDxlol
19:01.29xJDxShould help me avoid some proprietry stuff, anyway
19:04.49cr2_Markinus: no wifi/bt firmware ?
19:05.55Markinuscr2_: This are all files in /windows, searched with Resco . .
19:06.22mynexcellent :)
19:06.27mynmy wife just won an ebay auction for a diamond
19:06.42Markinuscr2_: seems not . .
19:06.43myngonna start putting more time into diamond now
19:06.48mynport Warm Donut to it
19:07.18Markinuscr2_: But I mean Rhod has no firmware too, same chip ..
19:07.20madCoder-your wife buys diamonds from ebay??
19:07.22madCoder-:p
19:07.25mynyeah
19:07.35phhmyn: and you'll play with it ? :p
19:07.37mynwe are both on sero
19:07.37Markinuscr2_ I mean under win in /windows
19:07.45madCoder--_-
19:07.48mynso we are limited
19:07.54madCoder-was supposed to be a pun :p  nevermind
19:07.58mynhehe
19:11.27chamonixhey phh
19:11.33phhhi chamonix
19:12.13chamonixhows life?
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19:15.39UnfriendlyI have a question about htc sense
19:17.27Unfriendlyanyone here have a phone with that stuff on it?
19:17.59xJDxMight be better to just ask the question....
19:19.39Unfriendlycan you configure the homescreens to jump to the logical next homescreen if you go all the way to one side, or are you stuck with that "wall" you hit?
19:20.14madCoder-with sense, you're stuck when you hit one end or the other
19:20.27madCoder-unless you're using 2.1 sense, which has a "Leap" feature, as HTC calls it
19:20.42xJDxphh: Now im starting on PLATFORM_VERSION=2.1-update1 anyway, Just starting a new make, will try launcher2 if this goes works :-)
19:20.50madCoder-which lets you pinch-zoom out to see all 7 home screens, and pick the one you want to jump to
19:21.12Unfriendlydamn.. I was afraid of that
19:21.36Unfriendlyseems silly to me
19:21.40xJDxI hate the virtual wall in the normal android launcher, maybe I should change that.
19:21.46madCoder-Sense is silly :)
19:21.49Unfriendlythank you Coder
19:22.03madCoder-I haven't used it since I got the Hero
19:23.09Unfriendlymaybe it's not such a big deal in everyday use.. I just saw a vid of the htc desire and noticed the guy hitting the wall and having to go the other way.. struck me as very stupid
19:24.19xJDxIf you hit the home button, does it take you to the middle screen on the hero launcher?
19:24.30xJDx(when you're already at home)
19:24.55ToAsTcfhxJDx: yes
19:24.57madCoder-yes
19:25.36xJDxSo Launcher, Launcher2 or HeroLauncher? (what's your preferences)
19:26.04Unfriendlyis HTC the kind of company you can write to and they actually listen? or would it be a waste of e-paper?
19:26.04ToAsTcfhi use senseUI
19:26.27xJDxUnfriendly: HTC does listen, but don't expect immediate results
19:26.41ToAsTcfhbut the pinch zoom home is very useless
19:27.52UnfriendlyI am going to write them and ask that they give the option to have it jump over the wall.. wish me luck :)
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19:27.56madCoder-yeah, the HTC design guy who talked at MWC specifically said that the PR people are in the same office as them, and they do read the feedback (including tweets)
19:28.23madCoder-just tweet to @htc
19:28.23xJDxYeh, i'd use twitter to contact em :p
19:28.41xJDxI was kinda impressed with AndroidVNC... something similar for a Launcher app would be awesome - With say 9 home screens (in a square)
19:28.44madCoder-it's less official, but more public :p
19:28.52Unfriendlywill do
19:30.11xJDxphh: Starting build now ;\ (6:30AM here) - I wanna see how long it takes now, using -j6
19:30.19phhxJDx: on a X2 ?
19:30.22phhhow much memory you have ?
19:30.23xJDxYeh
19:30.30xJDx3.6 or something
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19:30.38xJDx4 but Integrated Video
19:30.40xJDx(laptop)
19:31.12xJDxI could do it on my server, and it would take alot less time, but it means I have to transfer and shit
19:31.24phh-j6 will be too much imho :p
19:31.32xJDxNah -j6 works nicely
19:31.37xJDxI've played with it a bit
19:31.41xJDx-j is too much :P
19:31.50phhno way ! :p
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19:32.03phhI won't ever try make -j on a project with more than 10 files :p
19:32.04xJDxMy memory never fills up, even on -j, it's just the CPU that can't handle it
19:32.19xJDxI've done it on -j, it became unstable near the end
19:32.30xJDxVideo drivers started to fail ;\
19:32.59xJDx(Using closed source NVidia drivers)
19:33.40Markinusphh: I commited the keypad led on/off with early suspend on topaz
19:33.46phhMarkinus: ok
19:33.58phhxJDx: oO
19:34.00xJDxI'm still only using 1.7GB ram max. It's the CPU that holds it back it, lol
19:34.02xJDx-it
19:34.41xJDxphh: I love it when shit breaks on Linux (CTRL+ALT+F1)
19:34.49xJDxMakes me so happy I don't use Winblows, lol
19:34.59Paul_Isheninphh, all ok with the git merge. the problem was with my hands
19:35.05phhlol ok
19:35.46xJDxPaul_Ishenin: as punishment for them, cut 2 fingers off each (don't forget to upload the video)
19:35.46Paul_IsheninI did "adb shell dmesg > dmgsg.1" and then "adb pull dmesg.1 c:\dmesg.1"
19:36.15Paul_Isheninthe first command saved me dmesg on my hard drive already, not on the phone
19:36.34xJDxheh
19:36.36Paul_Isheninas result I always looked at the old dmesg file
19:36.47Paul_Isheninwhich was created long ago on the phone
19:36.48xJDxhaha
19:36.51xJDxThat's funny as.
19:37.21xJDxI couldn't work out what the problem was when you first wrote the commands you did Paul_Ishenin
19:38.21Paul_IsheninI thought adb shell dmesg > dmesg.1 will create a file on the phone, not on my pc
19:38.22phhif anyone doesn't know what to do, there is the msm7200.zip on http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=119186 that I'd like to get.
19:38.42Paul_IsheninI already have it somewhere
19:38.42madCoder-Paul_Ishenin: adb shell "dmesg > dmesg.1" will run the piped output on thep hone
19:38.49phhPaul_Ishenin: gimme.
19:38.49xJDxPaul_Ishenin: Not unless you enter interactive most with adb shell
19:39.03phhwell, only MSM6500 Chipset Training MSM6500 Device 80-V7076-6 Rev. D Dec, 2006
19:39.04xJDxPaul_Ishenin: Not unless you enter interactive mode* with adb shell
19:39.05madCoder-without the quotes, it takes the result of $(adb shell dmesg) and pipes it to your local machine/cwd
19:39.28phhmadCoder-: even in windows ?
19:39.30AstainHellbringhiya madCoder-
19:39.35Paul_Isheninphh, what exactly do you want?
19:39.35madCoder-yes, windows supports > redirection
19:39.45Paul_Ishenin6500 or 7200 ?
19:39.52phhoops
19:39.53phhwrong paste
19:39.55phh80-VE263-2
19:39.56phhthis one.
19:40.14phh(and this paste is right)
19:41.37madCoder-phh: i've been trying to get that for over a year :p
19:41.50phhmadCoder-: there is another one to get that will be even tougher
19:41.53phhdoc of the PM chip
19:41.59phhit's on some chinese forum
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19:42.14phhbut you have to be active or pay 40$ to get access to it
19:43.18UnfriendlyI did the twitter thing.. here is hoping HTC removes the wall :)
19:43.32phhUnfriendly: hoping's good.
19:43.58Unfriendlyhave a really nice day everyone, bye bye :)
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19:57.43madCoder-phh: that russian captcha is pretty difficult ;x
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19:57.58phhmadCoder-: Paul_Ishenin got it for me :p
19:58.13madCoder-87 плюс 78 paвно
19:58.32madCoder-even with the translation, I can't seem to enter what it wants :p
19:58.34Paul_Ishenin165
19:58.40madCoder-yeah I got that much :)
19:58.41mynso does the Diamond come with 4gb of internal mem?
19:58.51madCoder-but it doesn't like that for some reason
19:59.25Paul_Isheninif you want I can register you there
19:59.33phhmyn: 4GB yes
19:59.40mynso the 4gb is not microsd?
19:59.41Woutwas busy copy pasting from the Russian alphabet wiki
19:59.41phhmyn: +256MB
19:59.47phhmyn: it's soldered microsd
19:59.50phhbasically
19:59.51Woutstupid captcha
19:59.55mynahh okay
20:00.00myndoes it have a microsd slot?
20:00.05phhno.
20:00.08madCoder-Wout: hah, me too
20:00.13IceBoneHey, phh, do you have a logitech wireless mouse?
20:00.17madCoder-hmm, it accepted it like after 5 attempts
20:00.23phhIceBone: somewhere yes, why ?
20:00.33IceBonePut your phone next to it and then call it. :D
20:00.47IceBoneWell, you have to plug it in first.
20:00.47myndoes the TP1 have microsd?
20:01.00phhIceBone: "call it" ?
20:01.02IceBoneThe mouse, that is.
20:01.07phhmyn: yes
20:01.15phhmyn: and TP has more RAM than TD
20:01.22mynahh
20:01.24IceBoneBah, nvm, it messes with the scroll command.
20:01.30phhIceBone: lol ok
20:01.34Paul_Isheninphh, do you have msm_camera device?
20:01.40Paul_IsheninI don't
20:01.43IceBoneWhen the phone gets an incoming call or an sms, the mouse scrolls up.
20:01.45phhPaul_Ishenin: yes, you have to create it by hand
20:01.48IceBoneIf it's close enough.
20:01.51phhPaul_Ishenin: cat /sys/class/msm_camera/*/dev
20:02.02mynis the touch diamond as fast as the touch pro with android on it?
20:02.08IceBoneAaaand rapidshare is still cockblocking me.
20:02.16phhmyn: no
20:02.25phhmyn: so lack of memory is really a big problem
20:02.29phhPaul_Ishenin: adb wait-for-device shell mkdir /dev/msm_camera; adb shell mknod /dev/msm_camera/config0 c 250 1;adb shell mknod /dev/msm_camera/control0 c 250 0 ;adb shell mknod /dev/msm_camera/frame0 c 250 2
20:03.04Paul_Isheninwhere did you get this?
20:03.32cr2_NetRipper: ping
20:03.40phhPaul_Ishenin: reading /sys/class/msm_camera/*/dev
20:04.11madCoder-phh: the driver creates the dev nodes automatically for me
20:04.20phhmadCoder-: which driver ?
20:04.27phhmadCoder-: I think it depends on the init used
20:04.27madCoder-msm_camera
20:04.31IceBoneAaah, phone won't wake up!
20:04.34phhmadCoder-: you mean the kernel driver ?
20:04.37madCoder-yes
20:04.41phha kernel driver can't create nodes in /dev
20:04.44phhonly userland can
20:04.51IceBoneAll the pwoer button does is interrupt the breathe animation... ffs...
20:04.54madCoder-it does heh
20:05.26phhIceBone: means it wakes up
20:05.30cr2_madCoder-:
20:05.42cr2_madCoder-: what is your amss version ?
20:05.43madCoder-well, in as much as they show up automatically when its working, and if init fails, they don't :p
20:05.43IceBonephh: no, it just restarts it.
20:05.45madCoder-4410
20:05.52IceBonethe animation
20:05.54cr2_weird
20:05.58phhIceBone: uh ?
20:06.05phhmadCoder-: for heroc ?
20:06.11madCoder-phh: may be something in the init that automatically creates dev entries from sys entries
20:06.12madCoder-yes
20:06.26IceBoneWell, the lights "rise". If I press the power button it just goes blank and starts at the bottom again.
20:06.29phhmadCoder-: android init hardcodes such things
20:06.32cr2_madCoder-: how did you find it out ?
20:06.39phhIceBone: ah right
20:06.52madCoder-cr2_: heroc source code ;p  it's also in amss and fastboot
20:06.52IceBonereset, I guess?
20:06.53phhIceBone: press it repeatidly and also press home button
20:07.06IceBonenothing
20:07.14IceBoneFirst time this has happened to me, though.
20:07.16madCoder-phh: hardcodes what things?
20:07.17cr2_madCoder-: hmm
20:07.24phhmadCoder-: devices
20:07.29IceBoneI'll just reset.
20:08.33Markinuscr2_: In the hero's source is a nice header file with AMSS defines for many AMSS version. .  if you don't know this  --
20:08.34madCoder-like i said, it's automatic in the sense that the directory and files show up when the driver is initialized.  if it's not the driver itself, :x
20:08.52cr2_Markinus: paste
20:09.00madCoder-cr2_: it's in Kconfig actually
20:09.04phhmadCoder-: yes but not all versions of the init does it
20:09.08cr2_madCoder-: or post a link
20:09.18cr2_madCoder-: the leo version is 1550
20:09.28madCoder-http://xda.privatepaste.com/d50c7255cc
20:09.35madCoder-i see
20:09.42cr2_i'm wondering about nexus. need to check the source
20:09.47cr2_thanks
20:10.12Markinusphh: http://www.pastebin.com/m3dd1ec14
20:10.16cr2_aha. cryptic
20:11.02Markinusphh: ehh this was for cr2_ :)
20:11.08phhMarkinus: I noticed :p
20:12.22tmztkernel sends uevents to tell userland to create nodes
20:12.27phhcr2_: Paul_Ishenin got PM6650 docs, it's not as fresh as we would want it to be, but might be interesting
20:12.32phhtmzt: yeah. not with android.
20:13.05Paul_IsheninmadCoder, if it is in the init script then maybe you will show how they are created there?
20:13.13phhPaul_Ishenin: you don't happen to speak chinese btw ? :)
20:13.16phhwell read.
20:13.18cr2_phh: ok
20:13.36Paul_Isheninno, I don't speed chineese
20:14.10Paul_Isheninphh, you found a forum with more docs?
20:14.21tmztqualcomm docs?
20:14.31phhPaul_Ishenin: just a doc that we haven't, not sure how useful it is
20:15.02phhjust in case, noone has an account for https://prodsso.cdmatech.com/sso/pages/login.jsp ? :p
20:15.17tmztphh: android init seems to create some of the nodes
20:15.21tmztthat's weird
20:15.26phhtmzt: yes, but it's hardcoded in their sources
20:15.30cr2_Markinus: ok, 1550 is not in the list. there are not only ADSP irq differences, but also UARTDM differences
20:16.19phhtmzt: ah no they use uevent
20:17.15Markinuscr2_: yes, it's good to see that they changed much things. ..
20:24.37xJDxphh: Dosn't look like imma make the 1 hour deadline :( Damn WEBKIT!
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20:24.44phhxJDx: haha
20:24.58xJDxphh: It's been going for the last 20 mins (webkit)
20:25.21xJDxphh: yet, it still dosn't have proper scrollbars.
20:26.17phhlet's try wifi. I still haven't since I got this phone
20:28.41phhah no, I've already the easy things like gsensor and pad light buttons.
20:29.32Woutyou fixed those already?
20:29.37tmztscrollbars?
20:29.42phhah no, it has to be done
20:30.21Markinuscr2: btw, I made the Topaz backlight off working. But we didn't disable the display vregs. It's correct to say that if we disable this too, we have longer battery life?
20:31.58phhMarkinus: getting the panel back up is way harder
20:32.53Markinusphh:? You mean to get the correct vreg values?
20:33.30tmztyeah you need display init
20:33.30phhMarkinus: no, in the "display vregs", there is most notably the panel (ie lcd controler)
20:33.35phhand initing it isn't easy
20:33.37tmztnot  just power
20:33.46tmztwhat device?
20:33.49phhtopaz
20:34.06tmztwhat panel?
20:34.10Markinusphh: it'S working. . I can disable this . .  and init with the values from wiki . .
20:34.22phhMarkinus: "this" is backlight, not panel
20:35.42Markinusphh: I mean the LCD vregs . . gp2 and gp4
20:35.51phh?!?
20:35.52phhwow
20:36.13phhthere is noway it is that easy
20:36.41Markinusphh: I disable the hole display on BL off, and init it completly new
20:36.53Markinusso I can disable thze vregs too
20:37.10phhyou disable backlight, not display
20:37.24phhor it's a weird display which communicates through SPI instead of MDDI
20:37.53phhpad keys of rhodium are handled by microp-ksc ?!?
20:38.01Markinusphh: On topaz is the whole init over microp/SPI
20:38.25cr2_Markinus: if the vreg works only for lcd, then you will save some power
20:39.15cr2_phh: did you check 2 mddi bkl regs on rhod ?
20:39.33phhcr2_: I don't know how to do that
20:39.55xJDxphh: Still going - I think the end is near though.
20:39.59phhxJDx: lol
20:40.11tmztpad keys?
20:40.22tmztkeypad? yes
20:40.22phhtmzt: the 4keys at the bottom of the screen
20:40.23Markinuscr2_: ok, thx . .
20:40.29tmzthmm
20:40.34cr2_phh: i think i've told you the numbers
20:40.38tmztI thinkall but power and volume
20:40.44phhcr2_: only one of them
20:40.51cr2_2
20:40.53tmztthey're in the driver and they do work
20:40.57phhtmzt: that's really weird
20:41.06tmztwhy?
20:41.11tmztthose are gpio keys
20:41.17tmztalso mute probably
20:41.26phhthat means more cables to put between keyboard and screen part
20:41.33Markinuscr2_: It's enough to creg disable/enable or I have to set set correct level after enabling too?
20:41.37Markinusvreg
20:41.44tmzthmm maybe that's wrong
20:41.51tmztvol is on cpu part
20:42.01cr2_[D:DISP] mddi_write: Index = 0x6a17, Value = 0x0
20:42.22cr2_Markinus: i think if you leave the level at 0, the old one will be used
20:42.29IceBone3 hours I've been waiting now for rapidshare....
20:42.33cr2_Markinus: we don't know how to ask for the level...
20:42.34Markinuscr2_: thx
20:42.44cr2_[D:DISP] mddi_write: Index = 0x6a17, Value = 0x1
20:42.56tmztask what?
20:42.58Markinuscr2_: yes. . I thought maybe the values from wiki . .
20:43.05cr2_Index = 0x5303, Value = 0x80
20:43.21cr2_Markinus: yes, the wiki values are "known"
20:43.57cr2_[D:DISP] mddi_write: Index = 0x5304, Value = 0x0
20:44.38cr2_phh: need to check the 5304, but the 5303 and 6a17 are bkl-related
20:44.43phhok
20:44.43xJDxphh: Odd, my cores were set to 1.05 lol, so thats X2 @ 1.05 (not 2.1Ghz)
20:44.54xJDxLike, manually set
20:45.09xJDxrecovery image is done
20:45.13cr2_[D:DISP] mddi_write: Index = 0x5303, Value = 0x0
20:45.45cr2_<PROTECTED>
20:45.55cr2_[D:BKL] [MDDI_Write] API is not ready! address: 0x5303, data: 0x0
20:46.05cr2_this is probably for bkl on
20:46.23cr2_phh: but you can use linux function to query the wince state
20:46.38phhright
20:47.08phhcr2_: how do you dump wince dmesg btw ?
20:47.18cr2_22:53:50 [D:BKL] Enable LightSensorM
20:47.20cr2_22:53:50 [D:DISP] mddi_write: Index = 0x6a17, Value = 0x0M
20:47.21cr2_22:53:50 [D:BKL] [MonitorBacklightForWMPThread] Got g_hBackLightOnEventM
20:47.29cr2_phh: wiki ?
20:47.34cr2_phh: hmm.
20:47.37tmztfor wmp thread?
20:47.39tmztyuck
20:47.46phhwell there is the address in nand, but I don't know how to read nand from haret
20:47.46cr2_phh: search on xda-dev. i forgot the numbers
20:48.03cr2_not nand, ram buffer is bigger
20:48.17cr2_you can't read nand from haret yet
20:48.28cr2_we need to implement some custom ioctls
20:48.32phhoh right it's in memorymap
20:48.40phhI thaught it was only in nand infos
20:48.43cr2_it's pretty easy, but nobody done it so far
20:53.00phhcr2_: the address (both virtual and physical) in http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=TopazMemoryMap are wrong :/
20:54.13phhpwf topa100_dmesg 0x16f00000 0x100000
20:54.25phhthis one's right
20:54.35tmztapt
20:55.11cr2_phh: cut'npaste from raph ?
20:55.19phhcr2_: the wiki? it seems so
20:55.40phhapt: 6125_wince_dmesg is pwf dmesg 0x16f00000 0x100000
20:55.40aptokay, phh
20:56.00tmzttopa100 also?
20:56.13phhboth rhod300 and topa100, I guess it's for all topa and rhod
20:56.36Markinusphh: the wince_dmesg on topaz is there . .
20:56.38Markinus100
20:56.50xJDxSmoke time: When I get back it'd better be complete.
20:56.56phhxJDx: lol
20:57.04xJDxIt's DEXing now ;\
20:57.34xJDxI've fixed Calender and CalenderProvider while it built as well ;\
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21:24.05Markinusphh: I would disable the 6125 audmgr again, it's killing Topaz call . .
21:24.09Markinusok?
21:24.14phhyes ok
21:24.35phhI expected to succeed somehow today :/
21:25.07cr2_phh: can you locate the adspsvc.dll in ram ?
21:25.20phhthat's totally out of my knowledge
21:25.23Markinusphh: yeah . . . . .
21:25.51tmztps
21:26.01tmztlsmod
21:26.06phhoh. right. forgot that one
21:26.12tmztmod2addr
21:26.31tmztpmemmap
21:26.42cr2_lsmod and then vdump
21:26.49tmztwhy do you need it in ram?
21:26.53tmztand not on disk
21:27.00cr2_this is very bruteforce approach, but it should work
21:27.03phhcr2_: adsprtossvccore.dll ?
21:27.09xJDxphh: Try this...
21:27.10xJDxhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/1193926/Launcher2.apk
21:27.21xJDxBBS gotta take daughter to school
21:27.34cr2_tmzt: then he can mmutrace the beginnng of .text, and see which queue ids are used
21:27.35tmztsomebody know where to get apk for betterterm?
21:27.37cr2_phh: yes
21:27.44tmzthmm
21:27.49tmztinteresting
21:28.09phhtmzt: http://husson.hd.free.fr/com.magicandroidapps.betterterm.apk
21:28.25tmztthanks
21:29.03cr2_tmzt: yeah, very bruteforce, but i don't know a better way to do it
21:29.25phh0x22b3000 | 011000 | 0x8f9228d4 |     4 | adsprtossvccore.dll <----- I should do vwf adspdll 0x22b3000 0x011000 ?
21:30.10cr2_no
21:30.13cr2_do
21:31.03cr2_vd first. of 0x100 bytes or so
21:31.33phhHaRET(10)# vd 0x22b3000 0x100
21:31.33phh022b3000 |EXCEPTION while reading from address 0x22b3000
21:31.54cr2_phh: post the lsmod line
21:32.08phhI already pasted it -_-'
21:32.20phh0x22b3000 | 011000 | 0x8f9228d4 |     4 | adsprtossvccore.dll
21:32.31cr2_vd 0x8f9228d4 0x100
21:32.46phhit's the handle not the address
21:32.54phhsaid to be.
21:33.19phhok.
21:33.48karafathe rhodium is the touch pro 2 on sprint, right?
21:33.55phhs/on sprint//
21:34.36phhcr2_: http://pastebin.com/m75dbe2cf
21:34.40AstainHellbringkarafa sprints rhodium is rhod400
21:35.12karafaahh ok. you guys seem to like that better then the raph? i've heard good and bad about it.
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21:35.39phhkarafa: not specially better
21:35.40cr2_phh: ok, looks very good
21:35.50phhcr2_: to you maybe.
21:36.16Wout_karafa, bigger screen, better keyboard, better speaker, what's there not to love?
21:36.21cr2_phh: now we need to find the description of the MODULE struct. in the evil internet of course :)
21:36.31phhcr2_: I'll let you have fun
21:36.43cr2_phh: searching
21:36.49phhcr2_: can't ida do that ?
21:36.58phhcr2_: maybe I should dump the whole area and put it in ida ?
21:37.03cr2_you need the offset
21:37.46karafatrue, those things seem awesome, i just heard some bad things, like the lack of LED for the camera
21:37.53karafaplus android isnt as far along on it
21:38.19cr2_phh: the intenetz is evil
21:38.24cr2_phh: http://hubpages.com/hub/hackingwindowsce
21:38.46Wout_karafa, both true, but once android works completely this phone will be hard to beat
21:38.47phhbah, my trackball is disconnected (i need an usb hub), can't click.
21:38.57phhWout_: yup, it will be the best android msm7k device.
21:39.11cr2_phh: typedef struct Module {
21:39.13Wout_still havent found a smartphone with a better keyboard
21:39.27cr2_phh: that's what you dumped
21:39.31karafais development for it somewhat easier then the raph/diamond ?
21:39.37phhkarafa: not at all.
21:39.43phhbut development is shared
21:39.49cr2_phh: LPVOID BasePtr; /* 0x54 Base pointer of dll load (not 0 based) */
21:40.31cr2_phh: what is its value ?
21:40.51cr2_btw, LPVOID lpSelf; /* 0x00 Self pointer for validation */
21:40.55cr2_is a good check
21:41.05phh0x54 is the offset ?
21:41.10cr2_yes
21:41.15IceBoneOh, fucking finally!
21:41.18IceBoneThank you, rapidshare!
21:41.24IceBoneOnly waited 5 hours to download 200 kbs!
21:41.31phhIceBone: hehe
21:41.37phhIceBone: what for again ?
21:41.43phhcr2_: self is right
21:41.43IceBonepure grid calendar
21:41.51IceBonecalendar widget
21:41.53cr2_8f9228d4 | 8f9228d4
21:41.54phhcr2_: baseptr=022b3000
21:42.31cr2_phh: are there any other mappings ?
21:42.48phhof the dll ? no
21:43.08phhxJDx: looping
21:43.13cr2_i think the first page will be enough
21:43.18phhxJDx: http://pastebin.com/m23530bc9
21:43.28cr2_phh: actually using this struct, you can dump the whole dll :)
21:44.25IceBoneSo, phh... android debug bridge? :)
21:44.38phhIceBone: what about it ?
21:44.47IceBoneI guess I should look in the forums?
21:45.06phhIceBone: ah you want it working ?
21:45.08cr2_phh: hmm. maybe this is the right one: unsigned long e32_vbase; /* 0x7c Virtual base address of module */
21:45.12phhIceBone: which OS you're using ?
21:45.15IceBoneXP
21:45.18phhIceBone: bah
21:45.20phhcan't help.
21:45.24IceBoneIt better not be console.
21:45.27IceBoneBah...
21:45.29Wout_icebone: give up
21:45.36phhcr2_: it's the same as baseptr
21:45.38Wout_tried for two days to get ADB working on windows
21:45.54cr2_phh: ok
21:46.06cr2_phh: can you mmutrace it ?
21:46.13IceBoneGreat... now my webserver isn't working...
21:46.14phhwhich size ?
21:46.16IceBonerouter reboot
21:46.18cr2_phh: and 'playsound'
21:46.28cr2_phh: i think 1 page is enough
21:46.51cr2_phh: the tables are at the beginning of .text
21:47.00phhcr2_: is playsound supposed to output any sound ?
21:47.17cr2_phh: btw, you can dump this page, and see the numbers
21:47.28cr2_phh: then you will know the exact range
21:47.52Captnoordre
21:47.53cr2_phh: it plays some hardcoded name ;)
21:47.55Captnoordyo all
21:48.19cr2_phh: need to change it, so it has a commandline parameter.
21:48.20Captnoordgot amss dump?
21:48.32cr2_Captnoord: ready for ida ?
21:48.44Captnoordbit tired
21:48.51Captnoordbut I have a hour left before I want to sleep
21:48.52Captnoordhit me
21:48.53Captnoord:P
21:49.09cr2_Captnoord: get your raph, dump amss
21:49.24Captnoordgimme how to
21:49.24Captnoord:P
21:49.26cr2_then you'll have 2 "segments"
21:49.39Captnoordsegment importing....
21:49.40Captnoordhehe
21:49.49cr2_yeah. manual
21:50.04phhCaptnoord: set AXIGS and AXIGE protection to 0 and phys dump the areas :p
21:50.50cr2_Captnoord: the full virtual mapping is in the elf header. hmm. but we know at least the mapping for these 2
21:51.33cr2_bb in 20min
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21:52.24Captnoordphh what are the offsets?
21:52.41phhCaptnoord: AXIGS/AXIGE or AMSS ?
21:52.46Captnoordboth
21:53.02CaptnoordI know you must have mentioned them
21:53.08Captnoordbut if you have them ready
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21:53.10Captnoordits easier
21:53.18IceBoneAw, crap
21:53.20phhwhat's the haret command to write a byte again ?
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21:53.34Captnoordpfb
21:53.59phhharetlog-20100221_151621.log:HaRET(1)# pfw 0xA8250800 1 0
21:53.59phhharetlog-20100221_151621.log:HaRET(2)# pfw 0xA8240800 1 0
21:54.21IceBoneIt doesn't work properlly... >_<
21:54.25phhHaRET(5)# pwf rhod_oemsbl 0x900000 0x100000^M
21:54.25phhHaRET(6)# pwf rhod_amss_smi 0xa00000 0x1600000^M
21:54.25phhHaRET(7)# pwf rhod_amss_ebi 0x17300000 0xD00000^M
21:55.12Captnoordthanks
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21:55.48Captnoordits including the ^M?
21:55.53phhno
21:55.55Captnoordk
21:55.57phhthat's only DOS stuff
21:56.07Captnoordk
21:57.24Markinusphh: could you explain me what AXIGS/AXIGE is?
21:57.50phhMarkinus: not really
21:58.08phhMarkinus: it's the thing that enables every devices to access to the memory
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21:58.25phh(I mean A11, A9, ADSP, QDSP, etc)
21:58.44Markinusphh: ok, thx!
21:58.51CaptnoordAXI is global interconnection bus
21:59.01phhCaptnoord: and that's supposed to help? :p
21:59.04Captnoordyou can compare it to a PSI bus
21:59.06CaptnoordPCI*
21:59.14phhoO
21:59.14Captnoordsome sort
21:59.18Captnoordits not the same
21:59.26Captnoordbut its 'like'
21:59.46phhif you want.
22:00.10Captnoordsometimes its better not to talk in tech talk
22:00.11phhCaptnoord: and I think that for 3D you might have to figure out how AXIVG (AXI video graphic) works :p
22:00.33phhit might be an issue for WVGA devices
22:01.01MarkinusCaptnoord: thx!
22:01.16LargePrimeHello
22:02.03LargePrimeI understand there is no nand for the titan?
22:02.34LargePrimeIs it possible I may assist in its creation?
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22:05.49IceBonephh, this is what I waited 5 hours for: http://img.phyrefile.com/icebone/2010/02/21/snap20100221_225603.png
22:06.10phhIceBone: is it me or it's kind of buggy ?
22:06.37IceBoneYeah, it is, like 75% of the apps for the diamond.
22:06.59phhhum, i've almost no problem on my diam
22:07.22IceBoneCould be something to do with the dpi I have set?
22:07.35phhmaybe
22:07.40Captnoordhmmm ida is playing nice!!!
22:08.08IceBoneset cmdline "lcd.density=210 msmts_calib=0x7a.0x5e.0x35a.0x37f clock-7x00.a11=500 msmvkeyb_toggle=off pmem.extra=1 gsensor_axis=2,-1,3 board-htcraphael-navi.wake=0"
22:08.13IceBoneAnything wrong there?
22:08.40phhjust useless stuff
22:08.46IceBone:D
22:09.03phh(what's not useless there ? lcd.density and... bah that's all.)
22:09.15MarkinusThe clock-7x00.a11=500 is the cpu clock or? Why is this in the most files 500 and not 528?
22:09.25phhMarkinus: it's nothing
22:09.32phhit's cpu clock on vogue.
22:09.45Markinusahh, only on vouge? ok.
22:09.55phhwell, and its friends, but not for us
22:09.56Markinusphh: it's in all default.txt  . .
22:10.01phhI know.
22:10.27Markinusphh: ok :)
22:10.37IceBonephh: let me upload another screenshot.
22:10.45phhIceBone: even better ? :p
22:10.52IceBoneTo show you what a lot of apps do on my diamond.
22:11.31phhMarkinus: I'm moving your microp bma150 driver to an i2c+microp bma150 driver
22:11.33phhit's plain boring.
22:12.04Markinusphh: ok, your right, it's better to have only one code . .
22:12.12ToAsTcfhphh: boring like camera?!
22:12.20ToAsTcfh:P
22:12.23IceBonephh: http://img.phyrefile.com/icebone/2010/02/21/snap20100221_231001.png
22:12.25phhToAsTcfh: na, camera is just not understandable
22:12.28IceBoneSee the black border left and right?
22:12.31IceBoneI think that's the cause.
22:12.37ToAsTcfhlol
22:12.42phhMarkinus: at least, i2c part is easier than microp part
22:12.47IceBoneFor the calendar widget breaking, I mean.
22:12.58Markinusphh: yes, much overhead . .
22:12.59phhIceBone: you can try changing lcd density
22:13.16IceBoneYeah, but to what? This bug makes the Sense keyboard break too.
22:13.24IceBoneIt resizes it to that so it looks all funky.
22:13.38Wout_slaps Ubuntu around with a large trout
22:13.45IceBoneWhat's yours set to?
22:14.17Markinusphh: We have now a good stand on Topaz, we missing Sound, GPS, Camera, a bit better PM . . nice
22:14.20IceBoneThis doesn't happen everywhere, though.
22:14.27ToAsTcfhphh: did u ever make the camera more verbrose to try and help u out?
22:14.29IceBoneNo idea what's going on.
22:14.29Markinusphh: sound . .. arghhhh
22:14.35phhMarkinus: yeah ...
22:14.40phhMarkinus: PM is also killing me
22:14.43phhrhod has no PM
22:14.47phhwell, worst than that.
22:14.49Wout_how different are the topaz and rhod internals anyway? seems like they have the exact same functionality, just different exteriors
22:14.56Markinusphh: ahhh, ok.
22:15.12phhWout_: different wifi, bt, sound
22:15.18adamwWout_: really quite different. for no obvious reason.
22:15.25phhdifferent accelerometer control
22:15.29Wout_weird, makes no sense
22:15.32Captnoordhmmmm nice... if only I had more experience with entrypoint shit
22:15.33adamwthey were marketed as more or less the same thing except for the keyboard, but they appear to have all kinds of hardware differences.
22:15.34phhdifferent led handling
22:15.45MarkinusWout_: different display controll
22:15.48phhadamw: well, the TP2 has more "pro" devices
22:15.53Wout_seems to me it would be cheaper to produce one board and 2 casings
22:15.59phhlike the BCM wifi/bt/fm chip
22:16.05phhand the audience
22:16.41phhbtw, if someone finds specs of the bcm4325, let me know, I still haven't found any power consumption.
22:18.08adamwphh: http://www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/pdf/175095/BOARDCOM/BCM4325.html any use?
22:18.45phhadamw: not at all.
22:19.02adamwphh: d'oh :)
22:19.05phhseriously these specs are just ridiculous
22:19.27phhthey say "SDIO 802.11b/g+FM+BT2.1 chipset"
22:19.31phhand all is said.
22:19.47adamwthe PDF has slightly more. but doesn't look like stunning detail.
22:20.11IceBonephh: who's we in "We already have better battery life than winmo when it comes to smartphone usage."? o_O
22:20.38phhIceBone: all devs, that's just a guess so
22:20.43stinebdme!
22:20.51IceBoneI'd love to have that too!
22:20.53phhstinebd: you're still working on that ?
22:20.58phhIceBone: you're a dev ? :p
22:21.05phhah right
22:21.05IceBoneNo. :P
22:21.08stinebdphh: workign on what?
22:21.10phhI didn't see your quote correctly
22:21.20cr2_phh: bac to business
22:21.28phhIceBone: compare push mail battery life between android and wince
22:21.32phhand laugh.
22:21.48cr2_phh: can you vd the page starting with base address ?
22:22.01IceBoneBattery life drops dramatically in wince if you have mail push?
22:22.05Wout_aaaargh, I just can't figure out why ADB works on Mandriva but not on Ubuntu
22:22.12phhIceBone: oh yes.
22:22.19adamwWout_: because mandriva is awesome. next question?
22:22.24IceBoneRighto.
22:22.31adamwphh: looks like iphone hackers have the same problem - http://www.theiphonewiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=BCM4325
22:22.37adamw"The 'datasheet' provided is rubbish and we need the actual datasheet before any real development can be done... "
22:22.37phhadamw: I know
22:22.46phhadamw: but we have drivers :D
22:22.54adamwif they've been looking for it since july and have nothing i'm guessing it ain't easy to find
22:22.57Wout_adamw, I've been using Linux for 3 days now, Ubuntu seems to be n00b friendlier :P and couldn't find a quick way to get Mandriva to run off a USB drive
22:23.10phhWout_: it seems to be, but it's not.
22:23.15cr2_phh: int ret=PlaySound(L"\\Windows\\chord.wav", 0, SND_LOOP|SND_ASYNC|SND_FILENAME);
22:23.22phhcr2_: \\windows ?
22:23.23phhbaaaah
22:23.24adamwphh: well, they seem to be wanting to enable the FM radio feature, I don't think we have a driver for that. anyways.
22:23.29IceBoneGuess I'll just have to get used to having the phone plugged in all the time and not go anywhere without a charger.
22:23.38phhadamw: yes we have
22:23.41IceBoneOr switch to winmo. >:P
22:23.49adamwWout_: that's because mdv kinda wants to get people to pay for that feature (it's not hard to do for free, but they don't give free USB image downloads for that reason)
22:23.51adamwphh: oh neat.
22:24.01stinebdor carry a car battery and jump your phone with it
22:24.01Wout_phh, ok, but still, not ready to switch over, so would like a USB drive version which actually saves settings
22:24.02phhadamw: BUT
22:24.06adamwphh: so we can tune in the radio and, um...not listen to it? :P
22:24.07phhadamw: we still have to reverse it :p
22:24.16phhbecause it's no free driver
22:24.29Wout_adamw, any tips or links on how to get mandriva on a usb drive then?
22:24.41Markinusphh: Did you fine the wlan firmware under winmo? How is winmo loading wlan?
22:24.45Markinusfind
22:24.52phhMarkinus: I think I did
22:24.55adamwWout_: i would've said http://www.mcnlive.org/ , but they appear to be dead now. hmm. research time.
22:25.00phhphh @ phh-desktop ~/fur/d % ls Windows |grep -Fi wav
22:25.02phhit's still waiting :p
22:25.25Wout_adamw, found that one too, no updates in 2 years
22:25.36adamwWout_: you can try just 'installing' mdv onto a flash drive
22:25.41Captnoordcr2_: have you done work on entrypoint finding and stuff?
22:25.44adamwi dunno how well that works with recent versions but it used to do fine
22:25.52Captnoordits a bit new even that I know some shit
22:26.04adamwif you have a usb stick plugged in when you run the installer it'll see it just like any other drive in the system
22:26.05Wout_adamw, hmm, and will the drive be bootable then?
22:26.28adamwi don't remember, tbh.
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22:27.27cr2_Captnoord: load the smi seg at 0xa00000. i think it's code. the "reference" map is in the wiki
22:27.32phhMarkinus: for BT there is the .hcd
22:27.36Markinusphh: ahh okay, :)
22:27.36Captnoordk
22:27.45Captnoordnot talking about smi seg....
22:27.50Markinusphh: ahh, I asked me what this is . .
22:27.54cr2_Captnoord: http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=RaphaelMemoryMap
22:27.58Captnoordk
22:28.01phhMarkinus: and we have rtecdc1.bin and rtecdc.bin for wifi firmware
22:28.20cr2_0xf0000000  -  -  +0xa00000  rwx, code, entry pistachio
22:28.21cr2_0xf0020000 - - +0xa20000rw-, data
22:28.23cr2_0xb0100000 - - +0xa26000r-x, code
22:28.24cr2_and so on
22:28.32Markinusphh: They aren't on Leo . .
22:28.38Captnoordthanks
22:28.50Wout_adamw,  will give it a shot, thanks for the help
22:28.52cr2_Markinus: i have then in the dumped rom
22:29.00adamwWout_: np.
22:29.02cr2_s/then/them/
22:29.09adamwused to work for mandriva but hasn't been keeping up lately
22:29.26cr2_phh: vd ?
22:29.59Markinuscr2_: hmm inrresting . . . maye on a other place on a 6.55 Rom? Hmmmmmm I search one times more
22:32.39Markinuscr2: sorry . . .I forgot to change the visible options for files after refrashed my ROM .. now I see the files
22:32.45phhcr2_: wait a minute, I finish the bma150 driveR.
22:32.57IceBoneWhere is babijoee?
22:33.24phhthat makes me think that now we have a free GNU/Linuxish bma150 driver, replicant people might be interested.
22:33.39cr2_Markinus: do you know some soundfile name in \windows ?
22:34.01phhcr2_: bootuphtc ?
22:34.08phhDefault.wav ?
22:34.26cr2_heh. i need to implement "ls" in haret ;)
22:34.46cr2_phh: something else ?
22:34.59Markinusphh: akarn-clasic.wav
22:35.13phhMarkinus: I don't have it
22:35.40cr2_hm. strange
22:36.04Markinuscr2_: cr2_: I have much but I don't know is standard or not
22:36.07xJDxphh: How did you go with the APK i linked you to?
22:36.16MarkinusLoudest.wav
22:36.20phhxJDx: wget && adb install
22:36.22MarkinusInfend.wav
22:36.23phhMarkinus: I have it too.
22:36.26phhboth
22:36.31xJDxphp: Did it install?
22:36.48phhxJDx: yes
22:36.55xJDxphh: Did it work?
22:36.56Markinussilent.wav, tick,wav, splat.wav, RecEnd.wav . . .etc . . ..
22:37.12phhxJDx: the install ? yes
22:37.14xJDxphh: Nicely?
22:37.24xJDxSo it's not running?
22:37.28phhwhat do you call nicely ?
22:37.31phhand no it's not running
22:37.44xJDxwhat did logcat say when you ran it?
22:37.50cr2_int ret=PlaySound(wname, 0, SND_LOOP|SND_ASYNC|SND_FILENAME);
22:37.52phhthat's what I pasted
22:38.00cr2_does not respect the name ?
22:38.47phhMarkinus: do you remember which microp version is the one you added for rhod ?
22:38.59Captnoorddamn the strings... the strings......
22:39.28xJDxphh: Where did you paste it?
22:39.28phhCaptnoord: so many of them uh ? :p
22:39.32Captnoorddamn
22:39.40Captnoordits almost like a candy store...
22:39.48Captnoordtomorrow i will give it some more love...
22:40.00Markinusphh: 0x0a88
22:40.09phhMarkinus: that's the only one ?
22:40.16phhxJDx: http://pastebin.com/m23530bc9
22:40.17Markinusphh: yes, the other one is pure
22:40.32phhMarkinus: pure = topaz ?
22:40.37xJDxphh: Sorry i've been AFK for last hour or more, can't find your paste
22:40.46Markinusphh: not for microp ...
22:40.56phhMarkinus: yes right, but it's a topaz ?
22:41.01Markinusyes
22:41.32phhMarkinus: do you think we can do anything with the zoombar ?
22:42.04Markinusphh: Someone is writing in the past a driver for thos . .only the userapp was missing
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22:42.15phhMarkinus: yes the driver is no problem
22:42.17xJDxgah stupid wine.
22:42.20phhthe problem is to make userapp use it
22:42.32CaptnoordO soo sexy...
22:42.32cr2_If it cannot find the specified sound, PlaySound uses the default system event sound entry instead.
22:42.33Captnoordreset_cntr.bin
22:42.53Markinusphh: phh: you mean to integrate in android like gmaps? would be cool ..
22:43.02phhMarkinus: yes
22:43.15phhMarkinus: I'm not sure it's worth the work though
22:43.21phh*and* it's not my field at all
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22:43.50Markinusphh: me not too :) But is there maybe a andoid device with one?
22:43.56noisyzeng'day :)
22:44.08phhMarkinus: afaik no
22:45.12noisyzenMarkinus: I'm just about to flash a ROM, but when that's all setup let me know if you need anything from TOPA210.
22:45.14Markinusphh: can you maybe zoom with a other keyo n your keyboard? meybe the arrows=
22:45.16Markinus?
22:45.32phhMarkinus: that wouldn't be universal in all apps
22:45.41Markinusphh: right
22:46.03Markinusnoisyzen: thx, but in the moment no :)
22:46.06phhsomeone proposed to set it as a vertical-only jogbal
22:46.32Markinusphh: yes . . would be good
22:46.38noisyzenMarkinus: just let me know :)
22:47.44cr2_heh. most code examples these days are for .njet
22:50.31cr2_wee
22:50.35cr2_HaRET(1)# playsound 1 Splat.wav
22:50.36cr2_Playing Splat.wav for 1 seconds
22:51.54cr2_hehe. wince is user-friendly
22:51.59cr2_HaRET(7)# playsound 2 Alarm5
22:52.01cr2_Playing Alarm5 for 2 seconds
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22:52.41cr2_HaRET(8)# playsound 1 Alert-Twitter
22:52.43cr2_Playing Alert-Twitter for 1 seconds
22:52.45cr2_lol
22:57.36cr2_phh: on leo this struct seems to have a different layout
22:57.46phhwhich struct ?
22:57.52phh_MODULE ?
22:57.56cr2_phh: not surprising actually. on jornada820 it was different too
22:57.58cr2_yes
22:58.46Markinuscr2_: Do you need the fimware bin files and the hcd bt frimware?
22:58.53cr2_the offset looks like +0x5c
22:59.11cr2_Markinus: check md5sum
22:59.26Markinuscr2_: ok
23:00.20cr2_phh: how do i untar the .img file ?
23:00.31phhcr2_: wince .img ?
23:00.48Captnoord7z?
23:01.03Markinus567f2c0b1a6f3af708ae4a4c757ee9fb  rtecdc.bin
23:01.03Markinusfbc0eb93b9316ea1945e65d51dc10a48  rtecdc1.bin
23:01.03Markinus10dc6108fb17f21ccc4582535c904e43  BCM4329B1_002.002.023.0157.0168.hcd
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23:01.14Markinuscr2_: this was for you . ..
23:01.50cr2_Markinus: ok.
23:02.18cr2_BCM4329B1_002.002.023.0157.0168.hcd
23:02.29cr2_BCM4325D1.hcd
23:02.36cr2_BCM4325D1_004.002.004.0074.0000.Cl1.5.38.4Mhz.BuBrd.AMK.hcd
23:02.47cr2_BCM4325D0_004.001.007.0072.0000_38_4Mhz_Class1_Bringup_HTC.hcd
23:02.52Markinusphh: a other wlan chip in Leos?!?
23:02.57cr2_BCM4325D1_004.002.004.0083.0084.hcd
23:03.04phhMarkinus: yes
23:03.10cr2_Markinus: 4329
23:03.11phhMarkinus: leo has bcm4329, rhod has bcm4325
23:03.22phhbcm4329 has 802.11n and FM transmit
23:03.59cr2_phh: with the right firmware ;)
23:04.05phhcr2_: and right userland.
23:04.24cr2_for .11n ?
23:04.25AstainHellbringfm transmit would be nice to have
23:04.33phhcr2_: ah no for FM TX
23:04.37cr2_AstainHellbring: for the battery
23:05.25AstainHellbringcr2_?
23:05.35Markinusphh: I thought the 4325 was from a other leo . .
23:08.30cr2_AstainHellbring: to shorten the battery life
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23:08.45phhcr2_: tss, for in car use
23:09.21phhsure there is no other use for such feature.
23:09.54Markinusphh: is this working on other devices? like dia?
23:10.03phhMarkinus: what is working ?
23:10.07Markinusfm
23:10.34phhMarkinus: using propriatary userland, and I got it working only from commandline
23:11.01phhthe only use of that is it's easy to trace.
23:11.24phhMarkinus: you don't need audpptask for that, so you should be able to get it working too
23:11.29phhsearch for btilp and btilp_cli
23:11.32Markinusphh: ahh, ok, but you right, I never used it except for traffic informations for Navi (TMC)
23:12.27Markinusphh: ok, I will look on it . .
23:12.35cr2_Markinus: it's different chipset
23:13.03phhwell I was speaking for topa.
23:13.06phhwhich has same chipset as diam
23:13.22Markinusyes
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23:14.06phhkernel with rhod's gsensor built, how much chances it works mmm
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23:14.11phh5%.
23:15.06Markinus:)
23:15.22phhkernel panic \o/
23:15.47adamwhey, at least it did something =)
23:15.53phhbah I have to reactivate ramconsole
23:16.01adamwwhen you break it more, that's called 'progress'
23:16.05cr2_lol
23:16.19phhadamw: I'm no MS tech.
23:16.27adamwhehe
23:17.26phhok, stupid *(0)
23:18.24NetRippercr2_, about your patch, wouldnt it be nicer to be able to do dump msmclkkhz 0 255
23:18.29NetRipperand that it prints all those clocks?
23:18.32WoutRunning anchat (irc client)on android, more usable than I thought :)
23:18.36phhNetRipper: I agree.
23:18.44phhWout: I want a quassel client :'(
23:18.49cr2_NetRipper: ok
23:18.57WoutQuassel?
23:19.02cr2_NetRipper: i've written playwav patch
23:19.05cr2_err
23:19.11cr2_playsound
23:19.12phhWout: quassel, it's a set of client + daemon
23:19.19NetRippercr2_, alright
23:19.23phhthe daemon connects to IRC as normal, but then speaks a weird protocol to the clinet
23:19.25cr2_so it can play files from windows sound path
23:19.43cr2_NetRipper: for you
23:19.46cr2_[23:52] <cr2_> HaRET(8)# playsound 1 Alert-Twitter
23:19.48cr2_[23:52] <cr2_> Playing Alert-Twitter for 1 seconds
23:19.52NetRipperok old behaviour is still working?
23:19.52phhlol
23:20.08phhnot paniced \o/
23:20.21cr2_NetRipper: it's wince feature. if the file not found, it plays standard sound
23:20.34NetRippercr2_, ok but you can still call without filename without haret error? :)
23:20.48cr2_no
23:20.54cr2_but you can change it
23:21.02cr2_should i post the patch ?
23:21.11NetRipperyep send a mail
23:21.15phhand... it's .... a total fail :'(
23:21.31phhah no :
23:24.13adamwphh: just use an irc proxy instead? i don't really see why quassel bothers with a separate protocol for its clients
23:24.28adamwphh: i just run bip and have all my clients connect to the bip server
23:24.30phhadamw: infinite scrolling ?
23:24.48phh(simple example.)
23:24.56adamwoh, didn't know it did that. well, you can do that on bip, theoretically. probably eats a big chunk of memory somewhere, though :)
23:24.58Woutadamw, using mandriva's live install tool to write to usb, so far so good
23:25.14phhadamw: yes eats a lot of memory :p
23:25.31phhadamw: and it's better handled
23:25.37phhwith an irc proxy, multiple servers is weird
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23:26.20adamwphh: ? i don't have a problem with how bip handles it
23:26.29phhbip is a real irc proxy name ?
23:26.32adamwyeah
23:26.36phh-_-' ok
23:26.43adamwhttp://bip.t1r.net/
23:26.53phhanyway quassel is awesome as irc client too :p
23:27.31ToAsTcfhi use xchat but on linux. i cant see paying for it
23:28.13ToAsTcfhi havent found a good free one for windows yet :P
23:28.38cr2_NetRipper: sent
23:28.48MarkinusToAsTcfh: I'M using miranda, it'S nice ..
23:28.59cr2_NetRipper: btw, there is a possibloe problem with your switch to 0x118*
23:28.59phhToAsTcfh: quassel's good ! :p
23:30.06ToAsTcfhyeah my wife just got a new lappy from dell so that means i get my old lappy back. so ill prolly start using it more
23:30.47ToAsTcfhive been stuck compiling on my old socket 478 with 1 g of ddr :/
23:31.02WoutOuch
23:31.15phhlol ?
23:31.23ToAsTcfhyeah 45 minute after a make clean ;/
23:31.48WoutMy media center is faster than that :P
23:31.56phhbaaahhhhh
23:31.58phhstupid userland
23:32.04phh(even if I wrote it.)
23:32.06Markinusouch . . I need some minuts in my vbox on my Overclocked Q9560 ..
23:32.36ToAsTcfhmy lappy is dual core though 2.4 amd with 4g ddr 2 so its a major jump from myold beater
23:32.59Markinusyeah
23:33.04cr2_are there any 8G notebooks in real life ?
23:33.20ToAsTcfhnot in mine :P
23:33.23ToAsTcfhlol
23:33.50cr2_4G is too lame :)
23:34.12cr2_because of pci bus and the dumb bios writers
23:34.29cr2_with
23:34.37ToAsTcfhhey its all i got :P 3 kids and a wife fix me from get much more :P
23:34.43cr2_8G they are forced to do the right thing
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23:35.13phhbaaaaaaahhhh
23:35.16cr2_ToAsTcfh: i'm just interested if >4G notebooks exist
23:35.17phhI have to debug sensors driver
23:35.20phhI hate that.
23:35.33WoutThey do, the high end ones
23:35.33cr2_phh: let's debug sound
23:35.43phhcr2_: ok
23:35.50phhah and I can't multitask that
23:35.57cr2_Wout: link ? dell ?
23:36.48phhMarkinus: I commit my changes, please check if I broke anything for you
23:37.06WoutDon't know any type from the top off my head,  but I work at a computerstore and have seen them in the stocklisting
23:38.03WoutBut I really, really don't get high-end notebooks
23:38.36Markinusphh: ok
23:38.40phhcr2_: what should I mmutrace again ?
23:38.58phhah right first page of adsp dll
23:38.58NetRippercr2_, what problem is that?
23:39.21cr2_phh: dump it first
23:39.47phhcr2_: http://husson.hd.free.fr/adspdll
23:39.48cr2_NetRipper: arch/arm/mach-msm/Makefile.boot
23:39.58cr2_<PROTECTED>
23:39.59cr2_params_phys-$(CONFIG_ARCH_QSD8X50)              := 0x20000100
23:40.01cr2_initrd_phys-$(CONFIG_ARCH_QSD8X50)              := 0x21000000
23:40.23cr2_# Note: the following conditions must always be true:
23:40.25cr2_#   ZRELADDR == virt_to_phys(PAGE_OFFSET + TEXT_OFFSET)
23:40.26cr2_#   PARAMS_PHYS must be within 4MB of ZRELADDR
23:40.28cr2_#   INITRD_PHYS must be in RAM
23:40.45cr2_NetRipper: why don't you just change TEXT_OFFSET ?
23:40.50NetRipperhmm i think those are defaults
23:41.01NetRipperi.e. params is set in fixup
23:41.27cr2_NetRipper: what if there is no 0x2* ?
23:41.47NetRipperthis information is all passed by the bootloader i think
23:41.51NetRippercr2_, well on leo we do have 0x2*
23:42.05cr2_but it's nt a must
23:42.08cr2_# for now, override for QSD8x50
23:42.12NetRipperbut i don't know about this
23:42.46NetRipperits a good find :p
23:43.19phhcr2_: that's weird.
23:43.26cr2_NetRipper: i've dumped all mrc -related fucntions in nk.exe
23:43.42phh000.034 8002945c: e8d07ff8(ldmia)       # 8f9a8070==80035afc (8f9a8070)
23:43.42phh000034: giving up - clearing mapping
23:43.43NetRipperi wonder when Makefile.boot is used.. never seen it before
23:43.52cr2_phh: 404 ?
23:43.58cr2_phh: 403 :)
23:44.11phhcr2_: better now.
23:44.26NetRippercr2_, i'm curious abou tthe mrc
23:44.29cr2_argh
23:44.31cr2_not pd
23:44.46NetRippercr2_, did you find flush cache?
23:45.15phhMarkinus: you send no EV_SYN ?!?
23:45.36cr2_phh: looking
23:45.44phhMarkinus: ah yes you do.
23:46.18cr2_NetRipper: what is 'dsb sy' and 'isb sy' ?
23:46.37NetRipperi don't know about 'sy' but dsb and isb are data barrier and instruction barrier
23:47.11Markinusphh: yes  . . .
23:47.12NetRipperyou call that to synchronize data/instruction cache i believe
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23:47.29NetRipperacross cores, wild guess
23:47.55NetRipperi'm not exactly sure but it's 'barrier' that im sure of :p
23:48.05cr2_NetRipper: called at top, before enabling mmu
23:48.16NetRipperyea sounds about right
23:48.41NetRipperin armv6 this was an mrc instruction, in armv7 they introduced isb and dsb for ease
23:48.53cr2_NetRipper: which mrc is interesting for you ? there are about 20 functions
23:49.03NetRipperflush cache.. ermm
23:49.04NetRipperhold on
23:50.00NetRippercr2_, see if you can find this instruction: p15, 0, r0, c7, c14, 0
23:50.16NetRipperi'll be surprised if you can
23:50.35NetRipperbut in that regard, any c14 mrc instruction
23:51.11cr2_phh: don't see the numbers. strange
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23:52.16cr2_c7, c14
23:52.40cr2_NetRipper: no c7
23:52.59cr2_NetRipper: and no c14
23:53.09NetRipperno c14 at all? then you're not looking right
23:53.15NetRipperor it is really in a seperate dll
23:53.27Markinusphh: the gsensor is still ok
23:53.29NetRipperwould mean they do nothing with cache
23:53.35phhMarkinus: cool
23:53.58phhcr2_: I'll let yo work on that. And I'll work on sleeping.
23:54.14phh(and I mean sleeping of my body.)
23:54.55cr2_phh: ok
23:55.14Markinusgood night
23:55.41cr2_NetRipper: all mrc/mcr are ending in dsb/isb
23:56.26cr2_NetRipper: mrc or mcr ??
23:56.39NetRipperi think you're probably only finding mmu mapping stuff
23:56.40cr2_MCR     p15, 0, R11,c7,c14, 2
23:56.51cr2_MCR     p15, 0, R0,c7,c14, 1
23:56.56NetRippermcr = set, mrc = read
23:56.58NetRipperah
23:57.01cr2_yes
23:57.01NetRipperthat's better
23:57.18NetRipperdo you find any c14, 0?
23:57.19cr2_3 occasions
23:57.24cr2_no
23:57.25NetRipperthats the instruction that crashes
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23:57.27NetRipperok
23:57.53NetRippercan you pastebin these regions where c7,c14,* are used? including other mrc/mcr's?
23:58.14cr2_NetRipper: dsb and dmb
23:58.21cr2_yes

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