| 00:00.06 | cr2_ | VERS ? |
| 00:00.25 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:00.27 | captnoord | possible |
| 00:00.27 | cr2_ | 0x3000005B 0x1A, 0x0 pdsm_xtra_set_data |
| 00:00.37 | cr2_ | hm. what was the 1a on 6125 ? |
| 00:00.50 | cr2_ | phh: how are they shifted ? |
| 00:01.27 | captnoord | 0x1a,frag topaz:9,1f40,a,1000,... |
| 00:01.33 | captnoord | PDAPI 0x3000005b pdsm_* |
| 00:01.44 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.44 | captnoord | thats what the upper table says |
| 00:01.51 | cr2_ | probably this one |
| 00:02.13 | captnoord | cr2_: you like? |
| 00:02.14 | captnoord | :P |
| 00:03.09 | cr2_ | captnoord: sure |
| 00:03.39 | cr2_ | NetRipper: hm. nmea over com4. |
| 00:12.11 | NetRipper | cr2_, told ya |
| 00:12.12 | NetRipper | :D |
| 00:13.28 | cr2_ | no fix at home anyway |
| 00:15.44 | NetRipper | no? |
| 00:15.56 | NetRipper | i even got a fix inside my home |
| 00:16.07 | NetRipper | also with the help of agps of course |
| 00:16.08 | cr2_ | hate agps :) |
| 00:16.11 | NetRipper | but it's very rapid |
| 00:16.22 | NetRipper | agps is a must for phone-based gps :p |
| 00:16.37 | cr2_ | works without it too |
| 00:16.44 | NetRipper | yea but only outside |
| 00:16.46 | NetRipper | and not so fast |
| 00:16.53 | cr2_ | then you need to crack the ephemeris format |
| 00:17.06 | NetRipper | have fun with that :) |
| 00:17.12 | NetRipper | lol i'll just enable agps |
| 00:17.29 | cr2_ | hehe |
| 00:17.55 | NetRipper | cr2_, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581382 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=605731 |
| 00:18.00 | NetRipper | my additions for hd2 ;p |
| 00:18.54 | captnoord | lol |
| 00:18.59 | captnoord | add a beer licence |
| 00:19.00 | captnoord | :P |
| 00:19.09 | NetRipper | good idea |
| 00:19.36 | NetRipper | nah i have a subtile donation link in my signature but i'm not really aiming for donations ;) |
| 00:19.39 | NetRipper | even if its for beer :p |
| 00:19.53 | captnoord | hehe |
| 00:21.07 | NetRipper | it's a little funny though.. i've received donations for keypadledcontrol, which was just a days work.. but not for torchbutton, which was a whole lot more work :p |
| 00:21.20 | cr2_ | Your TorchBright-app is brighter than the max. setting on the HTCs own app |
| 00:21.34 | cr2_ | lol |
| 00:22.07 | NetRipper | well there are enough warnings about the bright mode |
| 00:22.08 | NetRipper | :p |
| 00:23.22 | cr2_ | keypad backlight ? |
| 00:23.31 | cr2_ | it's also on microp? |
| 00:23.36 | NetRipper | http://blog.netripper.nl/2010/01/keypadledcontrol.html |
| 00:23.38 | NetRipper | there's a pic there |
| 00:23.38 | NetRipper | yes |
| 00:23.40 | NetRipper | uh |
| 00:23.44 | NetRipper | actually i dont know |
| 00:23.47 | NetRipper | but i suspect yes |
| 00:23.56 | cr2_ | i'll try the i2c trace |
| 00:23.59 | NetRipper | i just set an event, the driver picks it up |
| 00:25.23 | NetRipper | reading that post back i can actually laugh.. the way i blog is like a diary |
| 00:25.39 | cr2_ | at@svn=1 |
| 00:26.09 | NetRipper | whats that? |
| 00:26.21 | cr2_ | at@agpsfeature=0 |
| 00:26.30 | cr2_ | in my AT fifo |
| 00:26.36 | cr2_ | don't know |
| 00:26.37 | NetRipper | ah |
| 00:26.49 | NetRipper | alternative way to talk to amss instead of rpc? |
| 00:27.34 | captnoord | subversion |
| 00:27.35 | NetRipper | hm actually agps can come from the network so its not illogical that it goes over AT channel |
| 00:27.36 | captnoord | lol |
| 00:27.44 | cr2_ | @system_time: garbage_count=0 |
| 00:27.49 | NetRipper | lol? |
| 00:28.05 | NetRipper | almost sounds like debug |
| 00:28.08 | cr2_ | NetRipper: it's difficult to sayx if it's an alternative channel |
| 00:28.26 | NetRipper | ok |
| 00:28.33 | cr2_ | +radiover is amss version |
| 00:29.07 | NetRipper | time for bed |
| 00:29.11 | NetRipper | night guys :) |
| 00:29.16 | captnoord | k |
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| 00:31.09 | captnoord | cr2_: i've pm'ed you the script |
| 00:31.19 | captnoord | its generic |
| 00:31.42 | captnoord | but it works only well for calls where the argument init is close to the call |
| 00:31.54 | cr2_ | captnoord: ok |
| 00:32.01 | captnoord | and it doesn't resolve the arguments |
| 00:32.19 | captnoord | it just searches back for the registers |
| 00:32.22 | captnoord | thats all |
| 00:32.29 | captnoord | now I need some sleep |
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| 01:12.10 | AstainHazHD2 | hiya! |
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| 01:20.06 | makkonen | Astain: ...so how is it? |
| 01:22.15 | makkonen | well... dropbox functioned for a full 2 days before I got shutdown for excessive traffic. I guess that it doesn't really suit my needs after all. :-p |
| 01:22.28 | AstainHazHD2 | makkonen its nice |
| 01:22.37 | AstainHazHD2 | the capactive screen is kinda.... |
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| 01:31.40 | Reefermattness | makk, it took me about 2 hours for drop to cut me off ;) |
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| 01:46.55 | makkonen | reefermattness: well we can't all be as POPULAR as you, now, can we? |
| 01:46.57 | makkonen | pouts. |
| 01:47.28 | makkonen | 4shared been good, then? |
| 01:48.13 | Reefermattness | LOL didnt mean it that way, more meant welcome to the club ;) 4shared is much slower, but it always works for me. Have been using it a LONG time. |
| 01:48.55 | makkonen | yeah, I'm just playin'. More downloaders/responders means more stupid questions in the thread, so I'm ok with less. :-) |
| 01:49.12 | makkonen | trying mediafire now. we'll see. |
| 01:49.22 | makkonen | it's neat how much you can do for free on the internet these days. |
| 01:49.43 | makkonen | although I guess you always could. with a geocities account or whatnot. |
| 01:49.43 | Zeman4323 | indeed:) |
| 01:50.11 | Zeman4323 | yea, things are just easier now |
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| 01:57.38 | makkonen | astainhazhd2: capacitive screen is kinda what? good? bad for winmo? |
| 01:59.20 | stinebd | inconsequential? |
| 02:02.55 | Reefermattness | finally played with a nexus1 for more than just a few minutes, that thing runs SO NICE |
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| 03:24.30 | parmaster | lol no android on hd2.. |
| 03:24.35 | parmaster | yah, that won't last long |
| 03:28.12 | AstainHazHD2 | makkonen capacitive is... |
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| 04:13.49 | mcdull | oh... google voice is still not removed from the 7.2.10 release. |
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| 05:06.16 | makkonen | astain: just tell us! |
| 05:07.50 | gehzumteufel | Tell us! |
| 05:07.57 | gehzumteufel | is unaware what he is asking to be told |
| 05:09.05 | makkonen | :-) |
| 05:09.16 | gehzumteufel | lol |
| 05:09.23 | makkonen | he's got a new hd2, and he keeps saying the capacitve touch screen is... |
| 05:09.25 | makkonen | and then he trails off. |
| 05:09.27 | gehzumteufel | Ahh |
| 05:09.39 | gehzumteufel | I am still unsure...hd2 or n1 |
| 05:09.44 | gehzumteufel | lol |
| 05:09.53 | gehzumteufel | HD2 has just such a beautiful screen |
| 05:10.10 | stinebd | i'll tell you what |
| 05:10.17 | stinebd | you can buy both and whichever one you don't want, send to me |
| 05:10.34 | gehzumteufel | HAHAHA |
| 05:10.36 | makkonen | perfect. problem solved. |
| 05:10.43 | gehzumteufel | which device you have now stinebd? |
| 05:10.48 | stinebd | raph110 |
| 05:10.50 | makkonen | then I'll come in the night and steal the one you do like. |
| 05:11.00 | gehzumteufel | I haven't even had my tp2 for a year yet |
| 05:11.06 | makkonen | it'll be even sweeter because I know I'm taking something you love. |
| 05:11.09 | gehzumteufel | lol |
| 05:11.19 | gehzumteufel | I have a gun |
| 05:11.29 | gehzumteufel | Not really but lol |
| 05:11.30 | stinebd | i'm sure makkonen will have some use for that too |
| 05:11.34 | gehzumteufel | hahaha |
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| 05:14.03 | makkonen | I wonder why so many people on us cellular have trouble getting data connections. I don't really understand APNs at all. |
| 05:14.20 | makkonen | especially as they relate to cdma. or don't, as the case may be. |
| 05:18.17 | tmzt | they don't |
| 05:18.51 | makkonen | yeah |
| 05:19.17 | gehzumteufel | The apn is just the gateway |
| 05:19.45 | gehzumteufel | And depending on the apn, depends on if it is for general data, mms, or whatever |
| 05:20.22 | tmzt | but cdma doesn't use that |
| 05:21.27 | gehzumteufel | Yeah |
| 05:21.45 | gehzumteufel | I knew that, but I was just referring to the GSM side, since that is the only side that uses them |
| 05:22.38 | makkonen | what are MCC and MNC? |
| 05:23.03 | makkonen | identification codes for the mobile networks? |
| 05:23.23 | gehzumteufel | Mobile Network Code and Mobile Country Code |
| 05:23.36 | makkonen | got it |
| 05:24.22 | tmzt | not sure they are used either |
| 05:24.30 | gehzumteufel | They are |
| 05:24.34 | tmzt | in cdma? |
| 05:24.37 | gehzumteufel | Yep |
| 05:24.47 | makkonen | they are used in something... I know marketenabler spoofs them so you can get paid apps to show up. |
| 05:24.58 | gehzumteufel | They are called something else though |
| 05:25.01 | gehzumteufel | I just can't remember what |
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| 05:28.48 | makkonen | so these USCC phones connect, and ppp0 gets a correct IP address, but they can't do anything. I assume there's something that needs to be set in the APN settings... maybe a proxy server... but I have no idea. |
| 05:29.00 | tmzt | rnot apn |
| 05:29.02 | tmzt | not |
| 05:29.13 | tmzt | might be default route or bad lcp/ipcp |
| 05:29.20 | tmzt | dns |
| 05:29.28 | tmzt | try pinging the ptp |
| 05:29.38 | gehzumteufel | Yeah dns is probably it |
| 05:31.15 | gehzumteufel | SID and NID are the CDMA equivalent of the MNC. The NID is a subset ID of the SID. |
| 05:31.47 | makkonen | where do dns settings even go in android? |
| 05:31.58 | tmzt | setprop |
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| 05:36.25 | makkonen | and what normally puts them there? |
| 05:45.59 | AstainHazHD2 | anyone in here anygood with pdocread? |
| 05:48.59 | makkonen | Not I |
| 05:49.17 | gehzumteufel | Me either |
| 05:49.19 | AstainHazHD2 | I found my issue thanks though |
| 05:49.31 | AstainHazHD2 | when it says DSK1: I need to include the : |
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| 06:00.13 | makkonen | ok, not dns... how do you set defaultroute? |
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| 06:03.52 | tmzt | route |
| 06:03.59 | tmzt | but you need a non broken copy |
| 06:04.03 | gehzumteufel | lol |
| 06:05.19 | randomblame | mrpippy, somebody screwed with my git repository and I'm having the same machtype problem I was having the other day where on compile it says undeclaired identifier for new mach type do you remember the solution |
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| 06:06.26 | makkonen | tmzt: the one we have is broken? |
| 06:07.15 | makkonen | ok, not route... what on earth is lcp/ipcp |
| 06:10.29 | MrPippy | they're protocols that ride on top of ppp, ipcp is how the client gets its ip address, default router, dns |
| 06:11.51 | makkonen | ok. don't think it's that, since the ppp connection is supplying an ip address and dns servers. |
| 06:13.08 | makkonen | definitely seems like there's some sort of proxy server or something on USCC's end that's just not feeding data over the regular connection. |
| 06:14.59 | MrPippy | yeah probably, i wonder if they can ping the dns servers |
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| 06:17.01 | makkonen | I will ask |
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| 06:18.16 | makkonen | There's a bug in the rootfs that's setting the default Android APN... missing an entry in the sql insert command, right? I think that's why data's not working by default on new cdma installs, and an apn has to be manually added. |
| 06:18.39 | makkonen | hmm. Nope, can't ping the dns servers. |
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| 06:19.06 | MrPippy | that would explain all the people in my thread who have to put it an apn...i had no idea why |
| 06:19.57 | makkonen | I kept seeing a little thing about 17 values, expects 18 or something... and hadn't really given it much thought. |
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| 06:23.40 | MrPippy | yeah i don't even know how android could be set to use a proxy, i'm sure its possible but i've never seen it |
| 06:24.37 | makkonen | there's a proxy setting in the APN fields. |
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| 06:24.54 | makkonen | not that I'm sure that'd work. |
| 06:24.59 | makkonen | but can't ping dns servers, so I don't think it's that anyway. |
| 06:27.29 | MrPippy | hmm look at this http://www.berry4all.com/uscellular_config |
| 06:35.20 | AstainHazHD2 | hmm I should flash this vogue |
| 06:35.36 | makkonen | yes. |
| 06:36.36 | AstainHazHD2 | hmm need to download a build to flash it with |
| 06:37.09 | mcdull | can anyone teach me how to compile a kernel with working wifi module? |
| 06:38.05 | gehzumteufel | lol |
| 06:38.13 | gehzumteufel | compiling a kernel is not some easy process |
| 06:38.45 | mcdull | I have set up the environment to compile the zImage already.. but without the wifi module, wifi wont work |
| 06:39.16 | gehzumteufel | Have you successfully compiled a working kernel? |
| 06:39.55 | mcdull | almost forgetton, but at least it boot to some stage in very earlier time.. I can try my recent one. |
| 06:41.42 | makkonen | if you've got a working kernel build, the steps to build tiwlan are not that tough. |
| 06:42.05 | mcdull | it is now booting.. |
| 06:42.10 | mcdull | seems ok.. |
| 06:42.16 | gehzumteufel | Well, I would say, until you can have a properly functioning kernel, not to attempt at the modules, since that won't really help till all the issues are fixed elsewhere |
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| 06:43.08 | mcdull | since I pull from the git, it should work the same as the autobuild. |
| 06:43.29 | mcdull | anyway, 3D is not working in my blackstone of course. |
| 06:44.23 | mcdull | but I would say, it may be working in some extend with old build.. a game named light racer 3d did managed to get started with 3D |
| 06:44.31 | mcdull | neocore does not. |
| 06:45.04 | mcdull | http://android.selfip.info:9999/Android/screen/3d01.jpg |
| 06:45.28 | mcdull | check out the screen capture. the 3d screen is not sync correctly. (works fine in donut) |
| 06:45.53 | makkonen | if you have a wave account, the android on htc wave has instructions for building the wlan module. Though I haven't actually checked how accurate they are. |
| 06:46.04 | mcdull | ok.. I will check with that. |
| 06:46.18 | makkonen | if you don't have a wave account, I'm sure someone here has an invite. I might, actually. |
| 06:47.40 | mcdull | thx.. I have the wave account. Just that the google wave consume too much of the bandwidth, and I am in office with very limited bandwidth. Thanks for your kindness. |
| 06:48.03 | makkonen | I can /msg you the relevant part. |
| 06:48.26 | mcdull | I actually have no idea on how to use wave.. yet. |
| 06:48.41 | makkonen | Once you understand it... it's not really that great. |
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| 06:49.13 | mcdull | but I will try it out.. (I uses my own private network, so it only time that matter) |
| 06:50.08 | makkonen | bleh. sending you the info won't help. there's a packag with tiwlan and compcache all together, and instructions for it, but you'll have to get it directly from the wave. |
| 06:50.12 | gehzumteufel | It is fantastic for highly collaborative environments, but that is all |
| 06:50.56 | gehzumteufel | If you aren't collaborating, it just has no purpose |
| 06:50.58 | makkonen | yeah. If you actually need to all be editing one monolithic piece of text simultaneously, it's very well suited to that. |
| 06:51.05 | makkonen | though still with problems. |
| 06:51.18 | gehzumteufel | Yeah |
| 06:51.20 | mcdull | how to search the thread in wave? |
| 06:51.27 | gehzumteufel | up at the top |
| 06:51.29 | makkonen | as a replacement for forums, it's weak. as a replacement for irc, it's completely broken. |
| 06:51.30 | gehzumteufel | in the center |
| 06:51.41 | gehzumteufel | It isn't a replacement for forums or IRC |
| 06:51.43 | AstainHazHD2 | wave pisses me off |
| 06:51.46 | AstainHazHD2 | pain in ass |
| 06:51.47 | mcdull | I guess using firefox would be fine, right? |
| 06:51.53 | makkonen | should be. |
| 06:52.14 | mcdull | It keeps "no response" under ubuntu. |
| 06:52.17 | gehzumteufel | It is for collaborating on documents and things that could use other user input to build that document. Or planning an event |
| 06:52.24 | mcdull | is google browser available under linux? |
| 06:52.29 | gehzumteufel | Yes |
| 06:52.39 | gehzumteufel | What *nix you using? |
| 06:52.43 | makkonen | also, wave should not be a web app. It's a needless constraint. It makes it harder to use... when as an actual application for a real computer, it would be more functional. |
| 06:53.43 | mcdull | ubuntu |
| 06:53.44 | gehzumteufel | meh, I have wave but I am just not in an environment to use it. |
| 06:54.06 | gehzumteufel | mcdull: There are deb's for Chrome. |
| 06:54.14 | gehzumteufel | http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/landing.html?hl=en&platform=linux |
| 06:54.25 | gehzumteufel | http://www.google.com/chrome/eula.html?platform=linux&hl=en |
| 06:54.28 | gehzumteufel | That is a better link |
| 06:54.39 | gehzumteufel | And I am off to eat |
| 06:54.40 | gehzumteufel | bbl |
| 06:54.43 | mcdull | bb |
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| 07:48.50 | makkonen | hello there, ssh login. |
| 07:49.31 | gehzumteufel | ssh is working now?! |
| 07:49.42 | makkonen | with more than a little work, yes. |
| 07:50.11 | gehzumteufel | w00t |
| 07:55.54 | makkonen | now to forward it over adb so I don't have to enable wifi for it to work. |
| 07:56.31 | gehzumteufel | heh yeah |
| 07:56.46 | gehzumteufel | Does wifi finally work on the rhodium do you know? |
| 07:56.51 | makkonen | and that works, too. gorgeous. |
| 07:57.02 | makkonen | (not wifi on the rhodium. i don't know about that.) |
| 07:57.07 | makkonen | (the forwarding thing. |
| 07:57.10 | makkonen | ) |
| 07:57.39 | makkonen | now if I could get it to use the busybox shell as the login shell, it'd be perfectly seamless. |
| 07:57.45 | gehzumteufel | Yeah I knew you meant the adb forwarding |
| 07:58.25 | mcdull | umm.. any other means to access adb now? I am using blackstone. |
| 07:58.26 | makkonen | last I heard, it was still busted. |
| 07:58.39 | mcdull | I cannot do it with ubuntu via vmware. |
| 07:58.55 | makkonen | yeah, I had no luck with virtuals. |
| 07:59.03 | makkonen | it's working via windows. |
| 07:59.11 | mcdull | windows? native you mean? |
| 07:59.12 | mcdull | how? |
| 07:59.21 | makkonen | yeah. |
| 07:59.46 | makkonen | you have to have it connected, activesync, 'enable advanced network functionality' turned off from winmo |
| 07:59.47 | mcdull | no need to change usb mode to single from composite? |
| 07:59.53 | makkonen | and yeah |
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| 08:00.02 | mcdull | ok.. let me try |
| 08:00.03 | makkonen | need to change to single. echo 2 > /sys/devices/platform/msm_hsusb/usb_function_switch |
| 08:00.13 | makkonen | but it's working on my end with that. |
| 08:00.22 | mcdull | oh.. of need to change to single .. no need to use activesync |
| 08:00.28 | mcdull | it always works. |
| 08:00.47 | makkonen | ok. then I'm confused as to what you're looking for. |
| 08:01.05 | makkonen | a more elegant implementation? |
| 08:01.06 | mcdull | whenever you connect the usb (whatever mode, not usb storage of course) and boot haret, it works. |
| 08:01.26 | mcdull | if change to mode 2.. it breaks linux adb |
| 08:01.32 | makkonen | yes |
| 08:01.47 | mcdull | I always has to add it via the conf file. but I cant recommend it to others. |
| 08:02.15 | makkonen | it's not the biggest hack we're doing. I don't feel bad recommending it to others. :-) |
| 08:02.16 | mcdull | and I would like to support both linux and windows ... still figuring out the situation. |
| 08:02.25 | makkonen | yeah. that would be nice. |
| 08:02.46 | makkonen | and simultaneous adb/rndis/usb mass storage would also be nice. |
| 08:03.28 | mcdull | ha... that would be a dream. if we can easily change from adb to storage, should be good enough.' |
| 08:04.21 | makkonen | as I've mentioned, last time I enabled mass storage in the kernel, everything broke. so I don't have high hopes at the moment. adb push and pull are good enough for now. better than having to reboot to add files. |
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| 08:05.28 | Paul_Ishenin | hi |
| 08:06.12 | Paul_Ishenin | am using the latest zimage autobuild and my diamond sometimes feels crazy :) |
| 08:06.29 | gehzumteufel | What does "feels crazy" mean? |
| 08:07.07 | Paul_Ishenin | back and menu buttons acts as arrows |
| 08:07.42 | Paul_Ishenin | and accelerometer seems reporting wrong state so phone rotate the screen to landscape |
| 08:08.01 | Paul_Ishenin | this happened just now after I finished the call |
| 08:10.09 | Paul_Ishenin | sometimes that happen after another actions. for example yesterday I edited apn settings and menu button changed it action to left arrow |
| 08:10.52 | makkonen | sure that wasn't just the lack of precision on the capactive panel? |
| 08:10.56 | Paul_Ishenin | I moved back from the settings and menu button worked again as a menu button |
| 08:11.20 | makkonen | god I hate that capcitive panel. |
| 08:11.30 | Paul_Ishenin | I'm sure that is not a precision problem |
| 08:11.35 | makkonen | ok |
| 08:17.52 | mcdull | sometimes my screen is totally inverted. |
| 08:17.59 | mcdull | up and down, left and right. |
| 08:18.14 | mcdull | I've got to sleep and wake to bring it back. |
| 08:18.52 | Paul_Ishenin | sometimes this happens and android show me some error |
| 08:19.03 | Paul_Ishenin | just after the ocaional rotation |
| 08:19.14 | Paul_Ishenin | I press OK and it rotates it back |
| 08:20.36 | makkonen | screen rotation... you should be able to just go to settings -> sound and display -> orientation and turn it off. |
| 08:20.44 | makkonen | it's not stable enough to be useful, anyway. |
| 08:21.01 | Paul_Ishenin | yes, thats true |
| 08:21.50 | Paul_Ishenin | another problem I have is adb |
| 08:21.59 | Paul_Ishenin | I can't get my device in list of devices |
| 08:22.12 | makkonen | windows/linux/mac? |
| 08:22.15 | Paul_Ishenin | windows |
| 08:22.24 | Paul_Ishenin | but same was on linux |
| 08:22.47 | mcdull | haha... help me to sort out vmware as well. |
| 08:22.48 | Paul_Ishenin | I used phh adb for linux but had no luck |
| 08:23.42 | Paul_Ishenin | I read that I need to use "echo 2 > /sys/devices/platform/msm_hsusb/usb_function_switch" command |
| 08:23.57 | mcdull | you need to modify the "eclair.user.conf" (stored in the conf/ folder on your SD card), at the bottom, add this line to the custom_shells section: |
| 08:23.58 | mcdull | echo 2 > /sys/devices/platform/msm_hsusb/usb_function_switch |
| 08:24.17 | mcdull | this is for "WINDOWS" only. |
| 08:24.21 | Paul_Ishenin | thanks |
| 08:24.27 | Paul_Ishenin | I will try right now |
| 08:24.36 | mcdull | and of course you need to start haret with usb connected. |
| 08:25.22 | mcdull | makkonen, I compiled the kernel and found wifi works using the module from autobuild... |
| 08:25.33 | makkonen | yay, I'm helpful! |
| 08:25.53 | makkonen | ...but I don't like the look of that ellipsis. |
| 08:26.03 | mcdull | but I still dunno how to compile the module. |
| 08:26.10 | mcdull | which ellipsis? |
| 08:26.23 | makkonen | at the end of your last line. the ... |
| 08:26.25 | makkonen | nevermind. |
| 08:26.34 | makkonen | I guess I'm not helpful. :-p |
| 08:26.39 | gehzumteufel | lol |
| 08:27.12 | mcdull | ha. nevermind. I am not English speaker. |
| 08:27.23 | mcdull | so I didn't mean anything. |
| 08:28.04 | makkonen | I know. My jokes don't often go over well here, for just that reason. |
| 08:28.11 | makkonen | where are you from? |
| 08:28.35 | makkonen | did you get the tiwlan_compcache_for_android_modules.tar.gz file from the wave? |
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| 08:28.44 | mcdull | Here from HK. |
| 08:28.44 | mcdull | hong kong |
| 08:28.52 | playdo | hey mcdull |
| 08:28.57 | mcdull | GMT+8.. bad time zone |
| 08:29.02 | mcdull | hi playdo |
| 08:30.00 | playdo | dont get the new build to work. gotta wait for a new release with fixe |
| 08:30.02 | playdo | s |
| 08:30.03 | JairunCaloth | hey guys, do you know where adbd determines what shell to run? |
| 08:30.11 | playdo | why? |
| 08:31.07 | JairunCaloth | I'd like to change it |
| 08:31.26 | makkonen | JairunCaloth: I don't, and I'd like to. because the busybox shell (/bin/sh) is much better than the default shell (/system/bin/sh) |
| 08:31.39 | JairunCaloth | I wasn't able to find a config file. I'm wondering if it's something I'd have to change in source. |
| 08:31.52 | makkonen | workaround: just run /bin/sh from your login shell. seems to improve things. |
| 08:31.59 | gehzumteufel | http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/funny-facebook-txt-haiti.png |
| 08:32.05 | JairunCaloth | makkonen: I want to run /bin/bash with it in debian. |
| 08:32.08 | MrPippy | makkonen: phh: leobaillard: here's my stab at a wifi loadit script that should work for diam500 and hopefully raph800 http://bash.pastebin.com/m1817c22a |
| 08:32.46 | JairunCaloth | current workaround was to make a /system/bin dir and symlink sh to bash |
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| 08:33.01 | makkonen | is bash somewhere? I couldn't find it. |
| 08:33.08 | JairunCaloth | wich works great. But I was hoping there would be an easy way to change it. |
| 08:33.27 | JairunCaloth | makkonen: not in android. I'm running debian. on my phone |
| 08:33.31 | makkonen | ah |
| 08:38.41 | Paul_Ishenin | hurray, echo 2 > ... do the trick :) |
| 08:38.59 | makkonen | I don't know. root in /etc/passwd has its shell listed as /bin/sh, but that's not what actually gets loaded on login. |
| 08:42.17 | Paul_Ishenin | how does regular android phone whorks when usb connection is started? |
| 08:42.39 | Paul_Ishenin | does it run some dialog to choose an action? |
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| 08:42.58 | Paul_Ishenin | like: usb drive, adb, ... ? |
| 08:47.21 | Paul_Ishenin | I think it must be rather easy to write an android application which will popup on usb connect and allow to choose an action: to be usb storage, to use adb interface |
| 08:48.33 | mcdull | playdo, the new build lacks of 3D.. you need to start winmo without 3D.. so no touchflo. |
| 08:49.11 | playdo | mcdull: it isnt enough to just deactivate touchflo? also a restart is needed? |
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| 08:49.42 | mcdull | yes... if touchflo is being loaded in advanced, 3D is initialized and not working. |
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| 08:50.55 | playdo | phew gotta try this |
| 08:52.19 | playdo | ok i restart and try android, brb mcdull |
| 08:53.41 | ThersiT | Hello all, I've been running an older android build on my kaiser for a few months now and I'm wanting to upgrade it. Has anyone here got any experience with this? |
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| 08:55.25 | ThersiT | Really I'm just wondering where to get up to date basefiles.. |
| 08:56.57 | MrPippy | wow file attachments don't seem to work on xda at all |
| 09:02.18 | mcdull | ar.. need help.. I cannot add my arm-2008q1 to path for cross compiling. Any though? |
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| 09:05.31 | mcdull | export PATH=$PATH:/home/blackstone/mydroid/arm-2008q1/bin/ seems work.. but I need to do it every time? |
| 09:08.01 | makkonen | MrPippy: that loadit script looks good to me. the diam500 offset works fine for raph800, I have confirmed. |
| 09:08.17 | MrPippy | ok cool |
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| 09:09.59 | mcdull | oo. compiling in progress. |
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| 09:16.56 | Paul_Ishenin | why logcat shows me this line once per 5 secs: |
| 09:16.56 | Paul_Ishenin | E/keystore( 2135): chdir: /data/misc/keystore: Permission denied ? |
| 09:17.34 | mcdull | just leave it .. or chmod 777 /data/misc/keystore |
| 09:18.33 | Paul_Ishenin | chmod is better I suppose? |
| 09:19.32 | mcdull | just to get rid of the error message anyway. In vogue forum, they did it in init. |
| 09:20.33 | Paul_Ishenin | using eclair.user.conf ? |
| 09:20.41 | makkonen | 'keystore' sounds like something that shouldn't be world-readable. but whatever. |
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| 09:23.05 | Paul_Ishenin | who do this event broadcast? I/BatteryBroadcastHandler( 1497): Received Broadcast ACTION_BATTERY_CHANGED |
| 09:24.07 | Paul_Ishenin | I believe nothing bad happen if it will be broadcasted once per 15 secs instead of once per 2 seconds as now |
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| 09:44.25 | playdo | mcdull ping |
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| 10:00.31 | mcdull | see if the kernel successfully compiled. |
| 10:03.56 | playdo | mcdull i cant start linux |
| 10:04.00 | playdo | no way |
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| 10:11.19 | mcdull | ok.. the kernel works.. at least it can boot. |
| 10:11.33 | playdo | :( i cant boot mcdull |
| 10:11.40 | playdo | what are u doing to boot? |
| 10:12.02 | mcdull | you have to disable touchflo in home. (use defult home screen) and reboot. |
| 10:12.14 | mcdull | and start haret as usual. I am using the newest build. |
| 10:12.15 | playdo | no, that doesnt work for me |
| 10:12.21 | mcdull | at what stage you hang? |
| 10:12.40 | playdo | just before boot screen, the phone now wents totally blank |
| 10:12.46 | playdo | even no backlight on |
| 10:13.03 | playdo | what kernel do u use? |
| 10:13.58 | mcdull | I build from git. |
| 10:14.20 | mcdull | it shouldn't totally blank, it should have backlight. |
| 10:14.35 | playdo | freak |
| 10:14.36 | playdo | :D |
| 10:14.37 | mcdull | did you use the 7.2.10 build? |
| 10:14.41 | Paul_Ishenin | btw, should I use linux in order to build from git ? |
| 10:14.57 | mcdull | of course.. |
| 10:14.59 | playdo | the 08.02. one from babijoee's thread |
| 10:15.12 | mcdull | umm.. let me see. |
| 10:15.34 | Paul_Ishenin | mcdull, I need to use cross binutils? |
| 10:15.45 | playdo | got the link? |
| 10:15.48 | mcdull | I am not sure what has changed.. I uses 7.2.10. |
| 10:16.09 | mcdull | It should always be placed in the same uri. |
| 10:16.31 | mcdull | Paul_Ishenin, I have no idea.. coz I am no expert in it. |
| 10:16.46 | mcdull | I can place the scripts in pastebin for your reference. |
| 10:17.03 | Paul_Ishenin | if you are about build scripts then please do |
| 10:17.40 | playdo | mcdull i just wait for another release. atm its not working |
| 10:18.06 | pitillo | hello, can someone give me a hand or a clue to see where can I look to get a rootfs working? Custom kernel for a prophet with custom toolchain and custom rootfs too, but it stops when if finds the root partition and seems it can't load init. Any clue about what I must review? |
| 10:18.15 | mcdull | http://pastebin.com/ma546dce |
| 10:18.44 | mcdull | Paul_Ishenin, it calls another build scripts and may need to modify the path. |
| 10:19.20 | Paul_Ishenin | big thanks |
| 10:19.38 | pitillo | I have another device (non htc) which stops in the same point, and both uses the device mmcblk0p2. Sorry if I disturb someone with this question. |
| 10:21.02 | playdo | i'm going to lunch :P |
| 10:21.21 | mcdull | I will try the 8.2.10 build tonight.. I have slow connection here |
| 10:27.33 | tmzt | stops where? |
| 10:28.13 | tmzt | disable touchflo??? that's new |
| 10:28.44 | mcdull | disable touchflo, for devices not supporting hw3d only. (not yet supported) |
| 10:28.55 | tmzt | ah |
| 10:29.46 | pitillo | tmzt: at VFS: detected root file system (ext2) and then freeing init memory: X, here stops (not sure if it's something related to the device node in the rootfs which uses udev, but rules seems fine) |
| 10:30.24 | tmzt | what image is this? |
| 10:30.36 | tmzt | who's using udev with android? |
| 10:30.46 | pitillo | tmzt: it's a custom rootfs |
| 10:30.53 | tmzt | what's the commandline? |
| 10:30.57 | tmzt | non-android? |
| 10:30.58 | pitillo | tmzt: it's isn't related to android, sorry |
| 10:31.05 | tmzt | no that's fine |
| 10:31.09 | tmzt | I just needed to know |
| 10:31.13 | pitillo | sorry if I disturb here with a non topic |
| 10:31.14 | tmzt | I don't really do android |
| 10:31.19 | mcdull | yes... htc-linux <> android... ha |
| 10:31.44 | tmzt | but I have to assume that everybody is asking about it because they always do |
| 10:31.48 | tmzt | anyway |
| 10:31.49 | pitillo | ah ok, it's a custom kernel, built from wing-linux (taken from linwizard) using haret to boot it without initrd, directly trying to enter the rootfs |
| 10:31.59 | mcdull | did your rootfs probably packaged as ext2? |
| 10:31.59 | tmzt | on omap850? |
| 10:32.11 | mcdull | properly.. |
| 10:32.12 | mcdull | sorry. |
| 10:32.14 | tmzt | mcdull: packaged? |
| 10:32.19 | pitillo | tmzt: yes, htc-prophet (and if it can be done there, it will be ported to elf too) |
| 10:32.42 | mcdull | the rootfs.img or you are working in nand? |
| 10:32.42 | tmzt | dark was interested in supporting non-android with his images I think |
| 10:32.59 | tmzt | mcdull: he's not using loop or nand I think |
| 10:33.07 | pitillo | last thing I saw yesterday was the eabi support in kernel, but not in the toolchain, removed and rebuild the kernel, but same effect |
| 10:33.27 | tmzt | you use your own toolchain? |
| 10:33.28 | mcdull | rootfs in partition? |
| 10:33.33 | pitillo | tmzt: well, we are trying to make a port of a linux distro to arm (atm it's working fine in a jornada 720) |
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| 10:33.43 | tmzt | what distro? |
| 10:33.43 | pitillo | tmzt: yes |
| 10:33.45 | tmzt | slight: hey |
| 10:33.47 | slight | http://groups.google.com/group/android-platform/browse_thread/thread/331d5f5636f5f532 |
| 10:33.52 | slight | http://groups.google.com/group/0xlab-devel/browse_thread/thread/1edef26f4e5b7427 |
| 10:33.54 | slight | hey :) |
| 10:33.54 | pitillo | tmzt: it's a CRUX port for arm devices |
| 10:33.56 | tmzt | I asked you something but you left |
| 10:34.01 | slight | oh sorry |
| 10:34.01 | tmzt | interesting |
| 10:34.04 | slight | what was it? |
| 10:34.06 | pitillo | yo slight |
| 10:34.10 | tmzt | you might check logs |
| 10:34.14 | tmzt | I forget |
| 10:34.16 | slight | ok :) |
| 10:34.50 | tmzt | hmm, if no direct rendering that means very little |
| 10:34.57 | tmzt | maybe that was it |
| 10:35.03 | tmzt | hmm |
| 10:35.29 | tmzt | pitillo: it should work, you are using candidate-android? |
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| 10:36.09 | pitillo | tmzt: sorry my lack of knowledge, what's cadidate android? |
| 10:36.09 | slight | can['t see a question to me. you were talking with phh and brilliantmistake (about bshuttleworth ;) |
| 10:36.44 | slight | i wrote this then left: Feb 09 20:36:37 <slight> hello... "AIGLX enabled"..."Loading extension GLX" |
| 10:36.47 | pitillo | seems to be the defconfig |
| 10:37.00 | tmzt | that's the current kernel for omap850 |
| 10:37.29 | tmzt | you might have to disable some android stuff but it's in better shape than either candidate for-tony or the old linwizard tree |
| 10:37.39 | pitillo | tmzt: yes, we are using it, modified yesterday the option to don't use kernel EABI |
| 10:37.42 | tmzt | slight: yep, read the response after mine |
| 10:37.54 | pitillo | tmzt: yes it is |
| 10:37.54 | tmzt | what option? why? |
| 10:38.04 | slight | no response in my logs, must have been some latency |
| 10:38.08 | pitillo | 1 seg |
| 10:38.09 | tmzt | does crux not have eabi? |
| 10:38.26 | tmzt | if so enable oabi compat |
| 10:38.41 | tmzt | I use a static strace to check what's going on |
| 10:38.49 | pitillo | tmzt: crux really is focused in i686 arch, we are porting it to arm, and our toolchain hasn't support for eabi |
| 10:38.49 | tmzt | or hack up ld.so to do it |
| 10:39.02 | slight | http://pastebin.com/m215d5535 |
| 10:39.09 | tmzt | oabi has major performance issues with software fp |
| 10:39.17 | tmzt | you don't really want tot use that |
| 10:39.36 | tmzt | slight: they said that aiglx can be enabled without hardware support |
| 10:39.38 | pitillo | ummmm atm without this kind of optimization, using plain tc to start |
| 10:39.44 | tmzt | remind me what you're doing? |
| 10:39.53 | tmzt | tc? |
| 10:40.06 | slight | tmzt, ah ok thanks |
| 10:40.07 | tmzt | just enable oabi compat |
| 10:40.11 | slight | feared as much |
| 10:40.25 | pitillo | tmzt: tc=toolchain, sorry |
| 10:40.28 | slight | did say that the GLX module was loaded too but i guess that could just be mesa |
| 10:40.30 | tmzt | if your libraries are right it should work fine |
| 10:40.37 | tmzt | yep |
| 10:40.52 | tmzt | and they also said there's no direct rendering possible on msm7x0x |
| 10:40.56 | tmzt | which is sad |
| 10:41.50 | slight | bah |
| 10:41.55 | slight | i so wanted the hildon ui :) |
| 10:42.01 | tmzt | yeah |
| 10:42.11 | slight | guess i'll just have to wait til i can afford an n990 for real ;) |
| 10:42.29 | slight | android is doing nicely for the tiem being, at least i finally have a decent ssh client |
| 10:42.33 | tmzt | you'll have to go with the egl trick probably |
| 10:42.42 | tmzt | putty is decent :) |
| 10:42.46 | tmzt | what device? |
| 10:43.07 | slight | putty won't work for me, chars all show up as blocks |
| 10:43.10 | slight | raph100 |
| 10:43.28 | tmzt | hmm |
| 10:43.29 | tmzt | weird |
| 10:43.36 | slight | been using pocketty but it's a bit horrid |
| 10:43.39 | tmzt | try the htc version of pocketpitty |
| 10:43.49 | slight | using a 6.5.x branch though |
| 10:43.51 | tmzt | hmm, what were you using? |
| 10:44.30 | slight | what what was i using? :p |
| 10:45.06 | tmzt | pocketputty or putty |
| 10:45.12 | tmzt | with broken fonts |
| 10:45.30 | tmzt | I'm using pocketputty htc right now |
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| 10:46.13 | slight | oh i'd not seen that |
| 10:46.15 | slight | gah |
| 10:46.32 | tmzt | you were using the ppc2003 version? |
| 10:46.36 | slight | yeah :p |
| 10:46.39 | slight | well |
| 10:46.42 | slight | i tried it |
| 10:46.50 | slight | but unsurprisingly it didn't work ;) |
| 10:47.00 | tmzt | I wish somebody would patch public sockets into it |
| 10:47.02 | slight | close though, it connected, but couldn't read anything |
| 10:47.03 | tmzt | on 6.5? |
| 10:47.06 | slight | yeah |
| 10:47.16 | tmzt | things might have changed |
| 10:47.19 | slight | ok well that's good to know, thanks for the link |
| 10:47.24 | tmzt | sounds like a unicode issue |
| 10:47.32 | slight | currently i'm managing to work in android |
| 10:47.35 | slight | yes most likely |
| 10:47.50 | tmzt | also, wish they would fix cut and paste and siable scroll like opera does |
| 10:48.05 | slight | i'm keeping android from crashing by running my sip client constantly, so it never goes into deep sleep for more than about 5 mins, so it doesn't hang :p |
| 10:48.39 | tmzt | ah |
| 10:48.46 | tmzt | just disable sleep in the kernel |
| 10:48.52 | tmzt | or on the command line |
| 10:48.54 | slight | and connectbot is quite nice |
| 10:49.38 | slight | ah i didn't know you could |
| 10:50.08 | tmzt | isn't raph100 suppose to be working pretty well? |
| 10:50.27 | slight | for most people |
| 10:50.43 | slight | a significant minority seem to have this issue to one degree or another |
| 10:50.51 | slight | however no one seems to have it as bad as me |
| 10:51.09 | slight | i've tried all sorts, can only assume it's a hardware issue. possibly sdcard? dunno |
| 10:51.16 | tmzt | could be radio version |
| 10:52.50 | slight | i wondered about that |
| 10:53.08 | slight | asked in here if anyone had any recommendations but got a general "whatever works best" response :p |
| 10:53.48 | slight | when winmo roms are put out i've heard suggestion that particular rilphone.dlls go with particular radios |
| 10:54.04 | slight | but i presume that's just a case of "this rilphone and this radio shipped together on tihs device" |
| 10:55.37 | tmzt | in theory |
| 10:55.47 | tmzt | but radio matters because it does the power save |
| 10:56.20 | slight | odd thing is it goes into sleep, i get the 'sliding' led effect |
| 10:56.27 | slight | and it's fine for a while, but then dies |
| 10:56.37 | tmzt | battery issue? |
| 10:56.41 | slight | i've wondered if it might actually be when something wakes it up under certain conditions |
| 10:56.42 | tmzt | bad start vector |
| 10:56.47 | tmzt | could be all those things |
| 10:56.52 | slight | yeah |
| 10:56.58 | slight | i'll try another radio |
| 10:57.03 | tmzt | like a boot reason not matching? |
| 10:57.16 | slight | what's that? |
| 10:57.32 | tmzt | not sure how spl resumes us anyway |
| 10:57.33 | slight | would be nice to be able to let it sleep properly and get more than 4 hours out of it ;) |
| 10:57.46 | tmzt | that's more of an android thing |
| 10:57.53 | tmzt | on android hardware |
| 10:58.17 | tmzt | easiest to not let it deep sleep |
| 10:58.25 | slight | i see loads of warnings about a timer in my kmsg |
| 10:59.00 | slight | forget the exact error |
| 11:00.21 | tmzt | that might be related it might not |
| 11:00.44 | tmzt | we can't really fix this stuff until we can replace bootloader I think |
| 11:01.02 | tmzt | or at least parse the messages from the radio that ce uses at resume |
| 11:01.05 | slight | here it is: |
| 11:01.10 | slight | printk(KERN_ERR "msm_timer_enter_idle: timer late %d, " |
| 11:01.10 | slight | 321 |
| 11:01.10 | slight | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:01.21 | slight | in my case %d = -32 |
| 11:01.28 | tmzt | timers are crazy |
| 11:01.49 | slight | k, just thought it might be something known, all this stuff is way outside my area :) |
| 11:02.05 | tmzt | it's know but we don't have a solution really |
| 11:02.12 | slight | k |
| 11:02.14 | tmzt | we work around ce and what it does |
| 11:02.51 | tmzt | if we'd get into jtag and seriously just doing our own bring up it might help |
| 11:02.57 | tmzt | but we can't fix the radio |
| 11:03.02 | slight | sven k in his report on phh's redmine tracker said something about improved stability regarding "crashes (timer)" using nand |
| 11:03.24 | tmzt | are you using nand? |
| 11:03.28 | slight | no |
| 11:03.37 | tmzt | proabably not it then |
| 11:03.48 | slight | i'd like to try but info is thin on the ground. phh said to ask chamonix if he had notes on how he set it up |
| 11:04.36 | slight | no i mean sven k seemed to be suggesting that switching to nand had improved some sort of timer related issue. but anyway never mind, i'll wait until there's an 'official' solution for installing on nand |
| 11:05.02 | tmzt | there is sort of |
| 11:05.09 | tmzt | using a modified windows mobile |
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| 11:16.28 | slight | wish i could flash winmo roms from linux :) |
| 11:16.41 | tmzt | use htcflasher |
| 11:17.38 | slight | oh you're full of useful information :D |
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| 12:42.16 | randomblame | the msm 2.6.29 branch seems dead has it's development moved elsewhere? |
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| 12:48.03 | mcdull | hi |
| 12:48.25 | playdo|lunch | hey |
| 12:48.33 | playdo|lunch | blackstone working |
| 12:50.08 | randomblame | bah msm 2.6.29 has no htc_fb_console |
| 12:50.46 | playdo|lunch | ?? |
| 12:51.55 | mcdull | playdo|lunch, what is the difference? |
| 12:52.29 | playdo|lunch | why dont u take .27? |
| 12:52.29 | mcdull | new kernel or what? |
| 12:53.06 | playdo|lunch | no, the 2.6.27 is our kernel i think. are u online with ur blackstone mcdull? |
| 12:54.00 | mcdull | no .. I am at home right now... my phone is sitting with winmo.. As I am expecting a call |
| 12:54.34 | playdo|lunch | [13:45:42] mcdull [~blackston@061093132071.ctinets.com] |
| 12:54.37 | playdo|lunch | thats why i ask |
| 12:55.04 | mcdull | I have name my *nix account as blackstone. |
| 12:55.41 | mcdull | this *nix box was decided to work with blackstone stuff only. And intentionally to share with others initially. |
| 12:55.43 | playdo | :D |
| 12:55.55 | mcdull | but now I work on it too much. |
| 12:56.04 | randomblame | no one seems to be working on a .29 kernel I thought there was work on a .32 kernel as well |
| 12:56.23 | randomblame | that's going to make my life more difficult |
| 12:56.34 | playdo | hmm i just see the most work on the .27 kernel or not? |
| 12:56.38 | mcdull | ha.. life is always difficult. |
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| 12:57.00 | randomblame | yeah the .27 kernel is very mature and I'm basing my kernel off it |
| 12:57.02 | mickey|office | fwiw, there's .32 in gitorious, search for leviathan-incoming, but it's targetted @ GNU/Linux and mainly the dream, hopefully though supporting other msm7 as well |
| 12:57.20 | randomblame | yeah I know leviathan is on my watch list |
| 12:57.28 | mickey|office | right |
| 12:57.30 | randomblame | but I need a straight up htc port to work off |
| 12:58.44 | randomblame | I thought android was limited to 1.5 with .27 |
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| 13:02.11 | randomblame | oh snap found the right branch |
| 13:02.45 | playdo | which one was is? |
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| 13:04.06 | randomblame | there's wince and tmzts branch on leviathan, not much work has been done on them lately but they should be a good starting point for me |
| 13:07.07 | playdo | wow fennec 1.0 final is out, gotta check this |
| 13:07.50 | randomblame | lame and I don't get to play with it |
| 13:08.01 | randomblame | just more motivation |
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| 13:09.31 | mcdull | fennec 1.0? for winmo? |
| 13:09.51 | playdo | mcdull i'm still reading the article, wait |
| 13:10.19 | playdo | %$%&*#'§%§ dammit |
| 13:10.28 | playdo | just for maemo 5, such a crap |
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| 13:10.47 | randomblame | it's not coming to winmo anytime soon |
| 13:11.01 | mcdull | umm.. in what system? |
| 13:11.10 | randomblame | maemo, with a user base of 38 was a bad platform for them to prioritize |
| 13:12.30 | mcdull | umm......... not my cup of tea. |
| 13:13.49 | playdo | user base? whats that? |
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| 13:15.19 | randomblame | the number of people who use it |
| 13:16.00 | randomblame | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke |
| 13:16.42 | randomblame | it's far too late good night guys |
| 13:17.10 | playdo | jokes dont work |
| 13:17.17 | playdo | just for native speakers |
| 13:18.07 | Paul_Ishenin | that american humor. nobody understands :) |
| 13:18.12 | playdo | :D |
| 13:20.05 | Paul_Ishenin | what git brunch do I need to build the kernel? this one enough? git://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm.git |
| 13:22.04 | mcdull | for kernel only, yes. |
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| 13:25.42 | Paul_Ishenin | what files I will get in result? |
| 13:26.33 | Paul_Ishenin | only zImage? |
| 13:32.18 | mcdull | yup |
| 13:33.07 | Paul_Ishenin | what is arm-2008q1? |
| 13:33.27 | Paul_Ishenin | where to get that? I see the build script uses it |
| 13:33.44 | mcdull | arm toolkit to for compiling the kernel. |
| 13:34.00 | mcdull | it should be downloadable in some where. |
| 13:34.04 | Captnoord | wiki |
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| 13:37.49 | Paul_Ishenin | sorry. nothing here: http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Kernel |
| 13:38.51 | Captnoord | what phone? |
| 13:39.09 | Paul_Ishenin | diamond |
| 13:39.25 | Captnoord | then use the wiki |
| 13:39.33 | Captnoord | not that wiki |
| 13:39.37 | Captnoord | the xda wiki |
| 13:45.55 | Paul_Ishenin | thanks. found |
| 13:52.25 | Paul_Ishenin | how you work on camera and gps? do you have some open source drivers to start from? |
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| 13:55.17 | GNUtoo|oeee | leviathan, are the patch ok? |
| 13:55.21 | GNUtoo|oeee | *patches |
| 14:11.46 | Captnoord | GNUtoo|oeee: how's life? |
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| 14:18.58 | Paul_Ishenin | is this datasheet somehow useful or every component is already known? http://www2.electronicproducts.com/HTC_Diamond_P3700-whatsinside_text-73.aspx |
| 14:21.24 | Captnoord | Paul_Ishenin: you know what blackbox programming is? |
| 14:22.01 | Captnoord | there are no official doc's for the internal chips |
| 14:22.25 | Paul_Ishenin | and no opensource drivers too? |
| 14:22.35 | Captnoord | and because we don't have the circuit diagram |
| 14:22.48 | Captnoord | if we had the chip's doc's they would be pretty useless... |
| 14:22.52 | Captnoord | and yes |
| 14:22.54 | Captnoord | no os drivers |
| 14:23.01 | Captnoord | loads of drivers that are kinda similar |
| 14:23.08 | Captnoord | but different in some ways |
| 14:23.15 | Paul_Ishenin | at least that's good |
| 14:23.17 | Captnoord | nope |
| 14:23.21 | Captnoord | thats not good.... |
| 14:23.30 | Captnoord | its like searching for a needle in a haystack |
| 14:23.30 | Captnoord | :P |
| 14:23.31 | Paul_Ishenin | why we can use that drivers to build our own |
| 14:23.46 | Captnoord | your experienced? |
| 14:23.58 | Paul_Ishenin | no in drivers writing |
| 14:24.02 | Paul_Ishenin | not* |
| 14:25.15 | Captnoord | for this.. you only need presistance and knowlage to think out of the box |
| 14:25.15 | Captnoord | and a bit of coding |
| 14:25.57 | Captnoord | I take my heaven in reverse enginering the wince drivers.... |
| 14:26.08 | Captnoord | which I usualy fail to come up with useable info |
| 14:26.21 | Captnoord | but it gets me the info I need... from time to time |
| 14:26.39 | Captnoord | phh does it in the implementation and trial and error... related to the wince haret logs... |
| 14:26.55 | Captnoord | cr2 does major thingy's with the haret logs... |
| 14:27.08 | Captnoord | and there are loads of other people |
| 14:27.16 | Captnoord | supplying just a single patch |
| 14:27.43 | Paul_Ishenin | I see :) |
| 14:27.57 | Paul_Ishenin | most of your needs are research |
| 14:28.15 | Captnoord | nope... most of our needs are research + implementation..... |
| 14:28.21 | Captnoord | no research no implementation |
| 14:28.31 | Captnoord | but if there is research and no implementation |
| 14:28.34 | Captnoord | its still useless |
| 14:28.43 | Captnoord | your a windows coder aren't ya |
| 14:28.44 | Captnoord | :P |
| 14:28.49 | Captnoord | loves to curse |
| 14:28.56 | Paul_Ishenin | I'm a pascal coder |
| 14:29.05 | Captnoord | lol......... okey... |
| 14:29.06 | Paul_Ishenin | no matter windows or linux or osx |
| 14:29.10 | Captnoord | then your university breed |
| 14:29.12 | Captnoord | good |
| 14:29.31 | Paul_Ishenin | I'm a freepascal and lazarus developer |
| 14:29.36 | Captnoord | k |
| 14:29.40 | Captnoord | then learn C |
| 14:29.41 | Captnoord | :P |
| 14:29.45 | Captnoord | if you want to help |
| 14:30.09 | Paul_Ishenin | C is not a big problem |
| 14:30.47 | Captnoord | then I suggest you wait for lets say... 5 hours or so |
| 14:30.56 | Captnoord | then the people will be here who actualy make it happen |
| 14:31.33 | Paul_Ishenin | if I wait for 5 hours or so then I will not be able to wakeup tomorow |
| 14:31.41 | Captnoord | hehe.... |
| 14:31.43 | Paul_Ishenin | anyway, thanks for your help |
| 14:31.49 | Captnoord | living in a diff time zone sucks bigtime |
| 14:36.13 | mcdull | yup.. any of you from asia? |
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| 14:53.04 | Paul_Ishenin | me from russia |
| 14:53.07 | Paul_Ishenin | krasnoyarsk |
| 14:58.50 | mcdull | is it very cold in russia now? |
| 14:59.10 | Paul_Ishenin | yeah -30C -> -40C here |
| 14:59.33 | Paul_Ishenin | btw, what problems do we have with camera? I see we already have a driver |
| 14:59.49 | Paul_Ishenin | drivers/i2c/chips/mt9t013.c |
| 15:02.16 | rzk | mcdull: Moscow -> -11C |
| 15:04.40 | mcdull | ow. that's crazy. |
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| 15:14.28 | rzk | oh, loquens created repo for htc quartz, http://gitorious.org/~loquens/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm-quartz , thats interesting. |
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| 15:25.16 | slight | hey quick question. can anyone tell me what the default sleep mode is in the current xdandroid builds? |
| 15:29.32 | slight | ah sorry i found it, assuming the raph/eclair page on xda wiki is up to date |
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| 15:56.22 | mcdull | boring these days |
| 15:58.11 | AstainHellbring | anyone up that would be willing to help me understand the methods for flashing android to vogue nand? |
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| 16:07.54 | mcdull | dont even have a vogue. But I guess there are many howtos in the forum already |
| 16:11.33 | AstainHellbring | the howtos are crazy |
| 16:11.44 | AstainHellbring | having a hard time wrapping my head around it all |
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| 16:14.48 | rzk | AstainHellbring: just flash nbh and place androidinstall.tar on sdcard, thats all for cupcake. for others - run from haret your favourite build, flash nbh and place on sdcard datafstonand, systemfstonand and rootfstonand initrd will copy everything to nand. |
| 16:15.12 | AstainHellbring | rzk looking at the newest eclair stuff |
| 16:16.10 | BlastuR | hey. im trying to get android running on my HTC touch HD / blackstone phone. are there any prebuilt binaries i can try out while I build my own kernel? |
| 16:18.06 | BlastuR | also, what phones has NAND boot support? so you dont need Haret (or windows mobile) |
| 16:18.21 | AstainHellbring | vogue does for sure |
| 16:18.36 | rzk | AstainHellbring: vilord now working on norootfs method - same nbh's with new initrd - with menu installer and without rootfs needed. process is same too - place androidinstall.tar in sdcard/andboot/, flash nbh and enter installer by following onscreen prompt. |
| 16:18.58 | AstainHellbring | how do I know which nbh to use? |
| 16:19.11 | mcdull | BlastuR, checj it out ..http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=621498 |
| 16:19.13 | AstainHellbring | I see the vogueimg.nbh - 320 420 480 |
| 16:20.01 | rzk | that is screen resolution, 320 - 240*320, 428 - 320*428, 480 - 320*480 |
| 16:20.11 | AstainHellbring | ahh ok |
| 16:20.12 | rzk | it is hardcoded to cmdline in tinboot. |
| 16:20.33 | AstainHellbring | so at the 480 one it will look fuzzy but more apps will run right? |
| 16:20.40 | rzk | yup |
| 16:20.43 | AstainHellbring | cool |
| 16:21.38 | rzk | AstainHellbring: latest files are here http://sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/ |
| 16:21.41 | AstainHellbring | guess I better go dig out an sd card for vogue |
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| 16:23.36 | rzk | BlastuR: old 7200 devices have, htc vogue, nike, polaris, kaiser. |
| 16:23.46 | BlastuR | cool |
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| 16:38.46 | AstainHellbring | what do I want sd formatted to? |
| 16:44.05 | rzk | fat32 |
| 16:50.14 | AstainHellbring | hmm what would cause a waiting for sd loop? |
| 16:53.43 | rzk | sd is not detected |
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| 16:59.41 | AstainHellbring | wierd got it working now |
| 17:00.51 | rzk | nand boot can be weird. |
| 17:01.15 | rzk | on nike i got full boot from nand to android from third time |
| 17:01.49 | rzk | on first and second yaffs2 driver segfaulted. |
| 17:05.43 | AstainHellbring | wow android runs really nicely on vogue |
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| 18:05.29 | phh | funny, SE xperia X10 has a front camera and handles video calls. |
| 18:05.35 | phh | maybe there is something for us in there :D |
| 18:05.51 | Captnoord | phh you where correct about the clocks... |
| 18:05.56 | Captnoord | I should learn to listen to ya |
| 18:06.01 | Captnoord | 0xa80 |
| 18:06.06 | Captnoord | got the part now... |
| 18:06.17 | Captnoord | funny thing is that the ensure its enabled before they disable it |
| 18:06.18 | Captnoord | :P |
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| 18:22.39 | leobaillard | hi there ! |
| 18:22.56 | Captnoord | yo |
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| 18:31.50 | phh | NetRipper: have you got some GPS dumps for leo ? |
| 18:31.57 | phh | is the prog id the same as us ? |
| 18:32.17 | phh | or it's 0x3100008c ? |
| 18:32.17 | AstainHellbring | phh I can do gps dumps if you want |
| 18:32.21 | AstainHellbring | I have an hd2 now too |
| 18:32.48 | phh | you can do if you know how to :p |
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| 18:33.32 | AstainHellbring | no idea how |
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| 19:17.27 | phh | [12:17:08] <slight> wish i could flash winmo roms from linux :) <---- it needs a windows as rescue, but you can just put your roms as <boardID>img.nbh, and start in flashing mode (vol down + press right on the capacitive pad), and do what it says |
| 19:21.02 | Captnoord | phh when grp clock is enabled |
| 19:21.05 | Captnoord | more stuff is going on |
| 19:21.08 | Captnoord | not only grp clock |
| 19:21.23 | phh | yes I know, the question is what :p |
| 19:21.30 | phh | and can you also check imem clock ? |
| 19:21.30 | Captnoord | I know what... |
| 19:21.33 | phh | it should be quite the same |
| 19:21.52 | Captnoord | http://pastebin.com/m55177262 |
| 19:21.52 | phh | [16:25:59] <slight> hey quick question. can anyone tell me what the default sleep mode is in the current xdandroid builds? <--- don't know if wiki is up to date, it's mode 0 |
| 19:22.31 | Captnoord | 0x80 is a clock field |
| 19:22.48 | Captnoord | which got bit 1 cleared |
| 19:23.29 | phh | what's 0x80 ? |
| 19:23.33 | Captnoord | I dono |
| 19:23.34 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 19:23.37 | Captnoord | I haven't got a clue |
| 19:23.43 | phh | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:23.50 | phh | oh wait no |
| 19:23.54 | phh | oh wait yes |
| 19:24.08 | phh | what the hell is that -_-' |
| 19:24.12 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 19:24.51 | phh | they unset bit 1 of 0x80 ?!? |
| 19:24.57 | Captnoord | yup |
| 19:25.00 | phh | but but.... this bit has no meaning according to all docs I have -_-' |
| 19:25.07 | Captnoord | # |
| 19:25.08 | Captnoord | *(R2 + 0x208) = * (R2 + 0x208) | 0x20; |
| 19:25.08 | Captnoord | # |
| 19:25.08 | Captnoord | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:25.12 | Captnoord | and those are strange to |
| 19:25.26 | phh | no |
| 19:25.29 | phh | it's some reste |
| 19:25.40 | Captnoord | I think its some lock |
| 19:25.45 | Captnoord | as they get unset at the end |
| 19:26.03 | Captnoord | *(R2 + 0) = *(R2 + 0) | 8; .... first field for 8 orred |
| 19:26.10 | Captnoord | *R2 = *(R2 + 0x290) & ~ 4; |
| 19:26.17 | Captnoord | bit 3 cleared |
| 19:26.20 | Captnoord | 0x290 |
| 19:26.48 | phh | *cleared* ? |
| 19:26.57 | phh | and you start counting at 0 or 1 with your "bit 3" ? |
| 19:26.58 | Captnoord | unset |
| 19:27.05 | Captnoord | 4 = bit 3 |
| 19:27.07 | Captnoord | but |
| 19:27.11 | phh | damn. |
| 19:27.13 | phh | it's vfe -_-' |
| 19:27.14 | Captnoord | I mean |
| 19:27.20 | Captnoord | if 1 = bit 0 |
| 19:27.30 | phh | yes ok. |
| 19:27.34 | Captnoord | k |
| 19:27.58 | phh | and nothing about bit 2 ? |
| 19:28.08 | phh | wait |
| 19:28.09 | phh | 4 = bit 2 |
| 19:28.11 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 19:28.12 | phh | not bit 3 |
| 19:28.16 | Captnoord | k |
| 19:28.19 | Captnoord | yea |
| 19:28.20 | Captnoord | sorry |
| 19:28.24 | phh | Captnoord: 1= bit 0, 2=bit1, 4=bit2 :p |
| 19:28.25 | Captnoord | got ya confused |
| 19:28.28 | Captnoord | hahahahaha |
| 19:28.40 | phh | that's wwwaaaayyyyyyy better |
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| 19:28.58 | Captnoord | disable is a bit stranger |
| 19:29.03 | Captnoord | it first gets enabled |
| 19:29.06 | Captnoord | and then disabled |
| 19:29.13 | Captnoord | but differently |
| 19:29.22 | phh | maybe bit =1 => off |
| 19:29.28 | Captnoord | possible |
| 19:29.40 | phh | I'd have to check with haret then |
| 19:29.44 | phh | or devmem :D |
| 19:29.48 | Captnoord | heh |
| 19:31.14 | phh | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:31.14 | phh | hehe. |
| 19:31.40 | Captnoord | + 0 to make the thingy look more generic |
| 19:31.41 | Captnoord | :P |
| 19:31.46 | Captnoord | crap |
| 19:31.55 | phh | 8 =bit3. |
| 19:32.03 | Captnoord | yup |
| 19:32.10 | phh | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.19 | Captnoord | hmm..... |
| 19:32.29 | phh | no idea what it means :p |
| 19:32.32 | phh | but that could be the problem |
| 19:32.54 | Captnoord | axi auxiliary power? |
| 19:32.55 | Captnoord | :P |
| 19:33.00 | Captnoord | no clue |
| 19:33.22 | phh | video/graphics ? |
| 19:33.26 | Captnoord | yup |
| 19:33.29 | Captnoord | possible |
| 19:33.40 | phh | I guess I have to try setting this bit then. |
| 19:33.43 | phh | well first see if it's enabled |
| 19:33.44 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 19:33.46 | Captnoord | yup |
| 19:33.50 | phh | Captnoord: can't you try that ? :p |
| 19:33.57 | Captnoord | I wish I can... |
| 19:34.02 | Captnoord | no linux installed |
| 19:34.07 | phh | han |
| 19:34.09 | phh | you sux. |
| 19:34.11 | Captnoord | my laptop is finaly beeing repaired |
| 19:34.14 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 19:34.15 | Captnoord | I know |
| 19:35.58 | Captnoord | 0x0290 MSM_RAIL_CLAMP_IO |
| 19:36.03 | Captnoord | maybe the 0x290 |
| 19:36.06 | Captnoord | nah |
| 19:36.10 | Captnoord | you already had that one |
| 19:37.35 | Captnoord | GRP_NS_REG has a clock select field |
| 19:37.42 | Captnoord | check the 7200a docs |
| 19:37.50 | phh | I know, but amss is supposed to take care of that |
| 19:37.54 | phh | especially according to your asm. |
| 19:37.55 | Captnoord | k |
| 19:37.58 | Captnoord | k |
| 19:38.16 | phh | I'll try your asm as is. |
| 19:38.19 | phh | (well, coded in C :p) |
| 19:38.52 | Captnoord | 3 AXI_LI_VG_CLK_ENA Enable video/graphics subsystem AXI local interconnect clock |
| 19:38.58 | phh | cccchhhhhh |
| 19:39.01 | phh | we're not supposde to have these docs :p |
| 19:39.06 | Captnoord | woeps |
| 19:39.09 | Captnoord | I don't have them |
| 19:39.13 | phh | and anyway, it doesn't help at all -_-' |
| 19:39.13 | Captnoord | I just make this all up |
| 19:39.26 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 19:40.31 | Captnoord | doesn't work? |
| 19:40.38 | phh | don't know. |
| 19:40.40 | phh | too lazy to try it today :p |
| 19:40.41 | Captnoord | k |
| 19:40.57 | Captnoord | come on.... you want 3d working properly to |
| 19:40.58 | Captnoord | :P |
| 19:41.08 | phh | I have a TF3D rom :p |
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| 19:41.15 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 19:43.07 | Captnoord | hmmm in the disable the grp rail gets enabled |
| 19:43.18 | Captnoord | I wonder if they disable it on init |
| 19:43.30 | phh | bah it's just that bit setted = device off |
| 19:43.52 | Captnoord | 0x04 |
| 19:44.11 | Captnoord | thats setting the grp delay |
| 19:44.30 | Captnoord | pm..... |
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| 20:33.12 | GNUtoo | hi leviathan |
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| 20:42.45 | BrilliantMistake | quick question for you linux geeks!.... |
| 20:43.45 | BrilliantMistake | if I unsquash a file on Ubuntu, and modify a few files (add or remove files), can I just resquash and deploy on android without any special measures? |
| 20:44.13 | makkonen | as long as you're careful not to mess with file ownership or permissions, you should be able to. |
| 20:44.23 | makkonen | (hint: do everything with sudo) |
| 20:44.27 | BrilliantMistake | right but if I add some apk... |
| 20:44.42 | BrilliantMistake | I don't know what permissions I need to set for a new file |
| 20:44.58 | makkonen | neither do I. look at the ones that are already there and copy theirs. |
| 20:45.09 | BrilliantMistake | lol, sounds like a plan for the moment ;-) |
| 20:45.19 | BrilliantMistake | that'll do for me :-) |
| 20:45.24 | BrilliantMistake | thanks |
| 20:45.59 | BrilliantMistake | There's some famous names in here ---> |
| 20:46.35 | BrilliantMistake | *takes a photo to show I once mingled with the stars* |
| 20:46.47 | makkonen | :-p |
| 20:46.51 | BrilliantMistake | toodle pip! |
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| 21:17.50 | cr2_ | NetRipper: ping |
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| 21:22.51 | MrPippy | palm posted their kernel patches for pixi/msm7627 |
| 21:23.59 | cr2_ | MrPippy: link ? |
| 21:24.06 | MrPippy | http://palm.cdnetworks.net/opensource/1.3.5.2/linuxkernel-2.6.24-patch(pixi).gz |
| 21:24.41 | cr2_ | .24 ? weird |
| 21:25.18 | Captnoord | hehe maybe to fuck with the minds |
| 21:25.19 | Captnoord | or |
| 21:25.25 | phh | aaaahhhhhhh |
| 21:25.26 | Captnoord | force us to do extra backporting |
| 21:25.26 | phh | it's metter. |
| 21:25.28 | Captnoord | to make it useble |
| 21:25.37 | MrPippy | yeah seems like a lot of work to backport all their omap and msm stuff |
| 21:25.37 | phh | this time it seems quite everything's there |
| 21:25.39 | Captnoord | forward porting |
| 21:25.45 | GNUtoo | lol |
| 21:25.54 | phh | anyway they use msm7227 |
| 21:25.57 | phh | which isn't really useful to us |
| 21:26.07 | GNUtoo | ah not 7002A |
| 21:26.13 | phh | uh ? |
| 21:26.16 | phh | never heard of this one |
| 21:26.26 | GNUtoo | 7001A |
| 21:26.27 | GNUtoo | sorry |
| 21:26.30 | GNUtoo | the dream one |
| 21:26.36 | phh | 7201A then :p |
| 21:26.41 | GNUtoo | ok sorry |
| 21:27.08 | chamonix | hey guys |
| 21:27.11 | cr2_ | phh: does wifi/bt work on rhod ? |
| 21:27.16 | phh | cr2_: not yet |
| 21:27.23 | phh | I'll work on it asap as I get mine |
| 21:27.29 | cr2_ | ok |
| 21:27.40 | chamonix | salut phh |
| 21:27.45 | phh | well, some maths and physics homework will prevent me from doing that really quickly though. |
| 21:28.09 | phh | chamonix: anything new ? :) |
| 21:28.34 | stinebd | phh: get the camera working yet? |
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| 21:28.47 | phh | stinebd: I have to retry |
| 21:28.53 | phh | I haven't done any test on it for a while |
| 21:28.58 | chamonix | well yes, my raph started hanging again :-/ |
| 21:29.10 | phh | chamonix: arf |
| 21:29.15 | phh | chamonix: and still on nand ? |
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| 21:40.11 | cr2_ | known |
| 21:41.13 | cr2_ | icodec rx 0001fffa fffb5b4c |
| 21:41.20 | phh | we need their power_debug |
| 21:42.12 | cr2_ | ecodec,sdac unused |
| 21:42.49 | Captnoord | // Qualcomm's Software Interface Manual (80-VF815-2 Rev C) doesn't |
| 21:42.50 | Captnoord | +// have these registers bit values defined but according to |
| 21:42.51 | Captnoord | hmmmmmmmmm |
| 21:42.53 | Captnoord | nice |
| 21:43.25 | phh | cr2_: hum, do you understand something to modem_notifier ? |
| 21:43.39 | MrPippy | hehe the only reason they released this code is because i emailed them last week and asked |
| 21:43.48 | phh | thanks MrPippy then :p |
| 21:44.20 | MrPippy | surprised no one else had tried it...too bad htc isn't this responsive |
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| 21:45.22 | phh | there way to handle gpio is interesting. |
| 21:46.58 | GNUtoo | trying a fix...fixed_info->fix |
| 21:47.09 | cr2_ | icodec rx. 24.576 |
| 21:47.14 | cr2_ | mahimahi ? |
| 21:48.07 | cr2_ | analog_audio.c:#define GPIO_HEADSET_AMP 157 |
| 21:48.08 | cr2_ | hm |
| 21:49.00 | chamonix | can anyone suggest an xmpp client as a good replacement for GTalk, ideally with source so that I can add broadcast of incoming IM to ledeffects? |
| 21:49.04 | xUmaRix | hi guys |
| 21:49.21 | cr2_ | phh: q6 code looks more sane |
| 21:49.47 | cr2_ | icodec_rx_clk = clk_get(0, "icodec_rx_clk"); |
| 21:49.59 | xUmaRix | anyone on blackstone rise up o/ |
| 21:50.00 | GNUtoo | mmm [ 1763.887359] msmfb unknown ioctl: 1074032001 |
| 21:50.12 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:50.13 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:50.15 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:50.16 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:50.27 | phh | chamonix: I'm pretty sure gtalk has some. |
| 21:50.28 | cr2_ | phh: hm. but i get 2x speed on leo. |
| 21:50.44 | cr2_ | 12.288 vs 24.576 |
| 21:50.45 | phh | cr2_: there might be different speeds |
| 21:50.48 | phh | depending on what's done |
| 21:51.06 | Captnoord | maybe you miss a >> 1 |
| 21:51.07 | cr2_ | phh: rx on nexus is hardcoded |
| 21:51.07 | Captnoord | :P |
| 21:51.39 | cr2_ | Captnoord: 1,5,1,2,4 |
| 21:51.55 | cr2_ | Captnoord: should be the same as 1,a,0,2,4 |
| 21:51.58 | cr2_ | for SD |
| 21:52.07 | Captnoord | we'r talking leo |
| 21:52.13 | Captnoord | or we'r talking 7201a |
| 21:52.26 | cr2_ | clock management is very similar |
| 21:52.48 | cr2_ | leo is 8250B |
| 21:53.08 | xUmaRix | yeah |
| 21:53.32 | cr2_ | MSM_CLK just shows the different register locations |
| 21:54.06 | Captnoord | I see... the math behind is should be pretty similar |
| 21:54.10 | Captnoord | then |
| 21:54.36 | chamonix | phh: there used to be an api and there's a service that can be bound to.... but no doc and without code it's trickier than I thought.... I was able to win info on k9-mail from sources but here I'm stuck.... I'll try logs and strace |
| 21:55.02 | cr2_ | Captnoord: mpll aka pll0 has the same divisors |
| 21:55.27 | GNUtoo | which was the kernel that worked with xf86-video-msm? |
| 21:55.28 | Captnoord | but you don't get the same freq |
| 21:55.47 | Captnoord | 2x difference would be possible with a shift of 1 |
| 21:55.50 | Captnoord | left or right |
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| 21:59.16 | xUmaRix | blackstone user anyone |
| 21:59.41 | polyrhythmic | oh no, 502 on XDA again |
| 22:00.06 | polyrhythmic | must be too much awesome clogging the tubes |
| 22:00.58 | Captnoord | acpuclock.c contains loads of nice info.... cr2_ I suggest you look at it... |
| 22:01.01 | Captnoord | or not |
| 22:01.14 | Captnoord | i'm talking about the palm patch off course |
| 22:01.55 | Captnoord | +pr_info("Turbo mode not supported.\n"); |
| 22:01.56 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 22:02.03 | Captnoord | makes me think og 386e's |
| 22:02.06 | Captnoord | of* |
| 22:02.07 | xUmaRix | patch palm for what device ? |
| 22:02.23 | Captnoord | read log |
| 22:02.28 | Captnoord | backlog |
| 22:03.11 | xUmaRix | yeah im on it |
| 22:03.17 | xUmaRix | since 9th log |
| 22:04.08 | phh | Captnoord: cdma-only devicesh as 196MHz pll0 ?!? |
| 22:04.21 | Captnoord | yea |
| 22:05.38 | phh | the only new things in there are about these pll stuff |
| 22:05.45 | phh | which is already known |
| 22:06.04 | Captnoord | k |
| 22:06.17 | phh | turbo mode oO |
| 22:06.33 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 22:06.40 | phh | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:06.41 | phh | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:06.41 | phh | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:06.43 | phh | "no problem here" |
| 22:08.07 | phh | MrPippy: can you ask for xperia X10's source code ? :D |
| 22:08.31 | MrPippy | heh is that shipping yet? |
| 22:08.33 | cr2_ | hm. how do i record sound ? |
| 22:08.39 | phh | MrPippy: I don't think so |
| 22:08.56 | xUmaRix | lol X10 |
| 22:09.05 | phh | they have front camera |
| 22:09.07 | phh | might be interesting |
| 22:09.29 | xUmaRix | samsung dont have ? |
| 22:09.47 | Captnoord | hmmm |
| 22:09.52 | Captnoord | got more clock defines |
| 22:09.52 | Captnoord | +#define MDP_LCDC_PCLK_CLK 42 |
| 22:09.52 | Captnoord | +#define MDP_LCDC_PAD_PCLK_CLK 43 |
| 22:09.52 | Captnoord | +#define MDP_VSYNC_CLK44 |
| 22:10.07 | Captnoord | +#define GRP_PCLK51 /* Graphics pbus clock */ |
| 22:10.26 | Captnoord | unsure if its 7k and bigger |
| 22:10.28 | cr2_ | Captnoord: enum |
| 22:10.31 | phh | lcdc is only for msm7227 |
| 22:10.35 | Captnoord | k |
| 22:10.44 | phh | grp_pclk is just a kernel-side stuff, not hardware |
| 22:11.30 | cr2_ | phh: is there a sound record app ? |
| 22:11.39 | phh | cr2_: playwav can do that |
| 22:11.56 | cr2_ | onenote mobile ? |
| 22:12.02 | phh | uh ? |
| 22:12.57 | cr2_ | some silly ms program |
| 22:13.18 | cr2_ | aa. tools :) |
| 22:14.06 | phh | cr2_: I think we missed something in available source code |
| 22:14.13 | phh | all the stuff about modem reset notifier |
| 22:15.12 | cr2_ | maybe |
| 22:15.50 | phh | i'm still trying to understand how this is triggered though. |
| 22:16.16 | cr2_ | the smsm_cb ? |
| 22:16.28 | cr2_ | ok. icodec tx 0001ffc3 ffc40b4c |
| 22:16.46 | GNUtoo | leviathan, please fix backilight |
| 22:16.50 | phh | don't know what it is |
| 22:16.58 | GNUtoo | http://pastebin.com/d73cd1f4d |
| 22:17.45 | cr2_ | n=3c |
| 22:18.02 | cr2_ | 1,0x3c,1,2,4 |
| 22:18.37 | cr2_ | awk '{print 245760/0x3c/2}' |
| 22:18.39 | cr2_ | 2048 |
| 22:18.45 | cr2_ | mahimahi? |
| 22:19.21 | cr2_ | clk_set_rate(icodec_tx_clk, tx_clk_freq * 256); |
| 22:19.40 | cr2_ | clk_set_rate(ecodec_clk, 2048000); |
| 22:20.06 | Captnoord | 256? |
| 22:20.08 | Captnoord | << 8 |
| 22:20.09 | Captnoord | or |
| 22:20.11 | Captnoord | << 7 |
| 22:20.25 | Captnoord | or from logs |
| 22:20.46 | cr2_ | 8kHz for a voice note ? |
| 22:20.49 | phh | hum, I need palm pixi's binary stuff to |
| 22:20.54 | Captnoord | yup |
| 22:20.57 | cr2_ | tx_clk_freq * 256=2048 |
| 22:21.01 | Captnoord | thats default rate for voice |
| 22:21.10 | cr2_ | ok, sounds good. |
| 22:21.26 | Captnoord | up to 4khz is about what people call 'voice' |
| 22:21.47 | Captnoord | and sample 2x.. the max bandwidth |
| 22:21.48 | Captnoord | 8khz |
| 22:22.47 | cr2_ | ecodec and sdac are not used. hm. |
| 22:23.08 | cr2_ | only icodec |
| 22:24.24 | cr2_ | phh: what about raph/topa/rhod ? |
| 22:24.28 | Captnoord | icodec is integer codec? |
| 22:24.36 | phh | cr2_: about what ? |
| 22:24.38 | cr2_ | internal |
| 22:24.44 | Captnoord | k |
| 22:24.45 | cr2_ | ecodec is external |
| 22:24.54 | cr2_ | sdac is stereo DAC |
| 22:25.31 | phh | ah these clocks. |
| 22:25.31 | cr2_ | but it's all black magic |
| 22:25.31 | phh | edac isn't used by bluetooth ? |
| 22:25.31 | phh | and sdac for headset ? |
| 22:25.32 | cr2_ | because done via dsp firmware |
| 22:25.32 | phh | (just thinking.) |
| 22:25.32 | Captnoord | for voice stereo of course isn't used.... |
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| 22:54.09 | Captnoord | lol |
| 22:54.20 | phh | cr2_: does rhod has a ds2482 ? |
| 22:54.22 | cr2_ | bah. 64MB for the kernel |
| 22:54.29 | mastermerlin | cr2_:just let me know how to edit the logs for all your needs |
| 22:54.31 | Captnoord | 0x30 == 00110000 >> 1 .... 00011000 |
| 22:54.35 | cr2_ | phh: unlikely. |
| 22:54.36 | Captnoord | 0x18 |
| 22:54.39 | phh | cr2_: ok |
| 22:55.03 | phh | what's this stupid 0X18 dev uh ? |
| 22:55.16 | phh | kxsd9 and ds2482 aren't enough -_-' |
| 22:55.25 | cr2_ | mastermerlin: if you trace the i2c, trace only the write and read registers |
| 22:55.47 | cr2_ | phh: is there a dex battery call on rhod ? |
| 22:55.52 | phh | cr2_: don't know |
| 22:55.56 | mastermerlin | <- back to documentation reading |
| 22:56.12 | cr2_ | phh: mastermerlin can trace it too |
| 22:56.50 | cr2_ | mastermerlin: 013665: mmutrace 02184ec4: e5975000(ldr) b2300008 00008701 (00000000) |
| 22:56.56 | cr2_ | mastermerlin: this is status spam |
| 22:57.08 | phh | 0x30>>1 seems to get some init registers |
| 22:57.24 | cr2_ | mastermerlin: use +0x0 4 , and +0xc 4 |
| 22:57.38 | phh | set almost all registers from 0x00 to 0x1d (and even more actually) |
| 22:57.40 | phh | in this ordr |
| 22:57.42 | phh | oreder* |
| 22:57.43 | phh | order* |
| 22:58.24 | cr2_ | 027248: mmutrace 02185638: e5933000(ldr) b230000c 00000016 (00000000) |
| 22:58.30 | phh | could be audience chip then. |
| 22:58.47 | cr2_ | 026496: mmutrace 02185634: 05852000(str) b2300000 00000200 (00000000) |
| 22:59.40 | phh | 014803: mmutrace 02185290: e5863000(str) b2300000 000001f4 (00000000) |
| 22:59.42 | phh | you're kidding me. |
| 22:59.55 | phh | new device, 0x7a |
| 23:00.06 | dcordes | cr2_, are you good at proof reading? |
| 23:00.28 | tmzt | micbias and mute yet? |
| 23:00.32 | mickeyl | dcordes: do you have edit rights for the main page of htc-linux.org? |
| 23:00.35 | cr2_ | dcordes: right now ? |
| 23:00.44 | dcordes | cr2_, yes |
| 23:00.45 | tmzt | learned something interesting yesterday |
| 23:01.36 | tmzt | seems it's possible to play two pcm+mp3 streams from different outputs simulataneously on nexus one |
| 23:01.41 | dcordes | mickeyl, yes but I didn't see anything new to add lately. do you want to have something changed? |
| 23:02.03 | mickeyl | dcordes: i was wondering whether it would make sense to add some links, i.e. could you add something wrt. 'infrastructure' and link to the mailing list, git, etc.? perhaps even 'related projects' where you could link to fso and the fso mailing lists |
| 23:02.39 | dcordes | mickeyl, similar things are on the http://htc-linux.org mainpage |
| 23:02.41 | cr2_ | 1fdbf000 |
| 23:02.43 | cr2_ | 20002000 |
| 23:03.28 | mickeyl | dcordes: ah right, now i see. should add links to the mobile-linux mailing list though and fso |
| 23:03.36 | cr2_ | dcordes: what do you want me to read ? |
| 23:03.46 | dcordes | cr2_, I'll upload it |
| 23:03.52 | cr2_ | hm. i need to check this magic area... |
| 23:03.56 | cr2_ | dcordes: ok |
| 23:08.45 | cr2_ | omg. it's wince dmesg |
| 23:08.54 | cr2_ | in the middle of sram ;) |
| 23:09.27 | tmzt | what device is this? |
| 23:10.15 | mastermerlin | http://pastebin.com/m7ff5b240 |
| 23:10.22 | mastermerlin | thx cr2_ |
| 23:10.29 | cr2_ | np |
| 23:10.49 | dcordes | mickeyl, but nevertheless it might be good to add that infrastructure wikipage |
| 23:10.55 | dcordes | mickeyl, I'll link it to the main |
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| 23:12.01 | IceBone | Feckin identify... |
| 23:12.11 | IceBone | Can't even change nicks to identify while in chan. |
| 23:12.14 | IceBone | *grumble* |
| 23:17.01 | dcordes | IceBone, at least the channel isn't in quiet mode any longer |
| 23:17.13 | makkonen | yeah, and no awful spam. it could be worse. |
| 23:18.50 | dcordes | yep |
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| 23:19.11 | makkonen | I'm looking at htc_acoustic.c, and mic_offset is set the same for raphael/diamond/raphael_cdma/diamond_cdma all use the same htc_acoustic_vir_addr and mic_offset. Since on CDMA audio output works without any tricks, but mic does not, would it be reasonable to assume that htc_acoustic_vir_addr is correct, but mic_offset needs to be changed? |
| 23:19.57 | makkonen | and... how do I determine where the correct offset is for cdma? |
| 23:20.39 | makkonen | I assume just looking at memory dumps isn't really that helpful, since I'm just looking for a few bits. |
| 23:20.45 | Captnoord | true |
| 23:21.09 | Captnoord | I wonder if the raph100 htc_acoustic.dll is cdma compatible |
| 23:22.00 | makkonen | so... I need to trace what's being done by the phone when a call is connected? Or when any mic-using function is called? This is way out of my league. |
| 23:22.30 | Captnoord | let me check the gsm dll |
| 23:22.55 | Captnoord | if I can find the 'normal' numbers |
| 23:23.17 | mastermerlin | ok guys gotta go ... |
| 23:23.24 | MrPippy | what is the dll called? i don't see an htc_acoustic.dll |
| 23:24.07 | Captnoord | true |
| 23:24.14 | Captnoord | wasn't it called util |
| 23:24.17 | Captnoord | htc_util |
| 23:24.19 | Captnoord | or something |
| 23:24.39 | MrPippy | htcservices.dll? |
| 23:24.50 | makkonen | oh, wait... is htc_acoustic even being used now? |
| 23:24.51 | Captnoord | dono |
| 23:25.27 | MrPippy | its getting compiled, but i wasn't sure that its the problem |
| 23:25.54 | MrPippy | i thought it was an audio routing problem, that code is in qdsp5/ |
| 23:26.04 | makkonen | ah |
| 23:26.15 | makkonen | 1c53616c699d92a926e6b99964edc3f3ab5d9376 says it's just bailing out. so I'm probably looking in the wrong place. |
| 23:28.01 | makkonen | oh, MrPippy, can you just add something to the main tree? drivers/input/keyboard/microp-keypad.c, line 170, switch from KEY_FN to KEY_LEFTALT (it's raph800-specific, so a pretty low-impact change) |
| 23:28.42 | makkonen | also the changes to htc_battery_smem.c would be awesome. I'm fairly certain there's no other device that will be negatively afffected. |
| 23:29.13 | MrPippy | yeah, its just us with the 4-byte fields |
| 23:30.12 | makkonen | and then it's just finding out about the enum of the capslock and fn LEDs, and I can divest myself of a clone repository. |
| 23:30.27 | MrPippy | is the microp-keypad fix in your tree now? |
| 23:30.51 | makkonen | yeah, but it looks messy as hell. |
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