IRC log for #htc-linux on 20100209

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00:02.40Unholyhey guys
00:05.12makkonenhowdy
00:08.03Unholyany of you know c++? i need help with a home work, having a hard time finding a tutorial that is clear enof to help me
00:13.15MrPippyyeah some c++, whats the question
00:14.32Unholyok i have some variables declared, each of them has cout for user imput, what i want to do is tell the progam to multyply or divide the 2 imputs fro my variables
00:14.38Unholydid that come out right?
00:14.54Oliprovariablea * variableb
00:15.03Oliprodo you need to write it to console?
00:15.05Oliproprintf!
00:15.25Unholyyes i just need to know the code to do that
00:15.31Paul_awaythat's C . he needs C++
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00:15.41Oliprohow is that C?
00:16.04Oliproit will compile as C++ or C
00:16.15Paul_awaywhere is some C++ class around :)
00:16.32OliproUnholy: go Google scanf and printf
00:16.36Oliproknock yourself out laddo
00:16.40Unholycout << "email" << email << endl; something like this to print out the result
00:16.58Unholyhuh?
00:17.09Oliprowell, you could sprintf it to a char array and the pipe that to cout
00:17.14Oliprobut printf would be simpler
00:17.33Oliproint numberA, numberB;
00:17.51Oliproprint("Enter a number bitch\n");
00:18.00Unholylol
00:18.05Oliproscanf("%d", numberA);
00:18.12Oliproprint("and another, bitch");
00:18.15Unholywait
00:18.20Oliproscanf("%d", numberB);
00:18.23Unholydont tell the hole program dude
00:18.26Unholyi want to make it
00:18.30UnholyXD
00:18.34Oliprothen go google scanf and printf like I told you
00:18.35Oliprojesus
00:18.40Oliproif you want to look REALLY clever
00:18.43Oliproyou can use sprintf
00:18.44Unholyi did 1 sec
00:18.47Oliproand allocate a char* pointer using new
00:19.03Oliprochar *stringPtr = new char[50];
00:19.20Olipro50 means you'll allocate 50 bytes for char storage
00:19.31Unholywhats "%d" for?
00:19.42OliproGOOGLE SCANF AND YOU'LL FUCKING FIND OUT
00:19.50Unholyah k
00:19.55Unholyno need to use caps
00:20.02MrPippyc++ way is cin and cout instead of scanf and printf
00:20.11Oliprono need to make me repeat myself numerous bloody times
00:20.25OliproMrPippy: says who?
00:21.15Oliprowhat sort of moron would deliberately use cin and then pass it to sscanf rather than call scanf right off the bat
00:21.58Oliprojust because c++ has cin doesn't mean it's automatically the best method of accessing stdin
00:22.11Oliproit really does depend on what you're doing
00:23.00Unholycin  and scanf same thing right
00:23.15Oliprono
00:23.17Oliproscanf is a function
00:23.26Oliprocin is something you pipe
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00:24.12Unholyhmm im getting realy confused, im taking this class in spanish, terminology not the same
00:24.33OliproC++ in spanish
00:24.34Oliprojesus
00:24.41Unholyno dude
00:24.56Unholynvm
00:25.01Oliproor rather
00:25.07Olipromadre de la dios
00:25.22Oliproanyway
00:25.33Oliprocin/cout are objets of the istream class
00:25.45Oliprowhereas scanf and printf are functions
00:25.49Unholyyea i have to do it woth iostram
00:25.54Unholystream*
00:26.03Oliproyou have to use <iostream>
00:26.08Unholyyes
00:26.17Oliprothen there's no problem with using scanf and printf
00:26.26Unholybut il get conffused
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00:26.36Oliprook then
00:26.37Oliprouse cin
00:26.39Oliproand use sscanf
00:26.45Oliproyou're not getting out of this either way
00:27.06Unholywitch is the simplest?
00:27.28Oliproscanf and printf because it saves you having to create additional variables to save the input/output strings into
00:27.38Unholyolipro mind if i pm you so we dont flood this with c++ stuff
00:27.44OliproI bet you don't even understand pointers
00:27.50Unholyprobly XD
00:28.01Oliprowhat is a pointer?
00:28.04Oliprofor example
00:28.25Oliprochar *myPointer = "Hello";
00:28.42Oliprodo you understand why that variable is a pointer?
00:29.01Oliproa pointer points to a number, that number is a RAM memory address
00:29.10OlipromyPointer's value might be 0x12230
00:29.22Oliproand, if we were to look at address 0x12230 in our computer's RAM
00:29.25Oliprowe would see the letter H
00:29.39Oliproand if we look at the next byte, we see an e
00:30.12Unholyi think thats like to advance for me right now 0o
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00:31.31Olipropointers are pretty fundamental to C and C++
00:31.38Oliproso I suggest you get it into your head boy
00:31.53Oliproespecially because bad things happen if you declare a pointer and don't allocate it
00:32.01Oliprofor example
00:32.09Oliprochar *myPointer;
00:32.17Oliprostrcpy(myPointer, "Hello");
00:32.41Oliprothat'll cause big problems because myPointer will very probably not point to a valid RAM address
00:32.54Oliproso strcpy will try to write RAM that doesn't exist
00:32.58Oliproand the computer won't like that
00:33.02Oliproand your program will crash
00:33.04Unholyhmm
00:33.11MethoS-Unholy: i honestly suggest you to use std::string std::cin and std::cout, if you to learn c++
00:33.22MethoS-*if you try to learn c++
00:33.50Oliproah yes, std::string, that makes life easy
00:33.53Oliproit does everything for yoy
00:33.55Olipro*you
00:33.58MethoS-right
00:34.19Unholyi am , im like my 3 day of this class
00:34.21Oliproalthough you can still declare a pointer to an std::string
00:34.24Oliproso...
00:35.02MethoS-pointers are maybe a bit to early to deal with after day three
00:35.31Unholyso if i want to scan the variable in cout that the user input, i have to use scanf?
00:35.50Unholyscanf "%d", int
00:35.56Unholy;
00:35.59Oliprono
00:36.02Oliproyou have to use sscanf
00:36.08Oliproyou cin to a variable
00:36.13Oliprothen you pass the string to sscanf
00:36.32Unholyso i ned the cin before sscanf?
00:36.39Unholyneed*
00:36.58Oliproactually nope, cin can write to an integer just fine
00:37.10Oliproalthough your program will do a poo if someone doesn't enter a number
00:37.21Oliproint numberA;
00:37.25Oliprocin >> numberA;
00:37.27Unholyok then cin "%d", int; ?
00:37.52Oliprono
00:37.54OliproI just told you
00:37.59Oliprocin >> numberA;
00:38.08Unholyok i got that
00:38.11Unholyi had that before
00:38.23Oliproand cin >> numberB
00:38.28Oliprothen
00:38.35Unholywhat i want is the program to for example multyply numbera and numberb
00:38.48Oliprocout << "A times B = " << (numberA * numberB);
00:39.20Oliprocout << "A over B = " << (numberA / numberB);
00:40.29Unholybut before that how i have to cout the number a and b values
00:40.42Unholyfrom the user imput
00:41.16MethoS-cout is for output
00:41.44Unholycin then
00:41.59Oliproint numberA, numberB;
00:42.04Unholycout << "Entre el nombre de la persona: " ;
00:42.04Unholycin >> nombre ;
00:42.05MethoS-[01:37:25] <Olipro> cin >> numberA;
00:42.09Oliprocout << "gimme a goddamn number";
00:42.15Oliprocin >> numberA;
00:42.23Oliprocout << "well done, now gimme another fucking number";
00:42.28Oliprocin >> numberB;
00:42.33Oliprocout << "A times B = " << (numberA * numberB);
00:42.36Oliprocout << "A over B = " << (numberA / numberB);
00:42.46MethoS-return 0;
00:42.48MethoS-}
00:42.50MethoS-:D
00:42.54Unholyah ok
00:42.55Oliprounless your main function is void
00:43.03MethoS-which would be C
00:43.04MethoS-:D
00:43.10Olipromaaaaaybe
00:43.11Unholyi got that
00:44.21MethoS-void main()
00:44.22MethoS-{
00:44.24MethoS-}
00:44.25Unholytyping the program let me see if can do it without looking to much
00:44.26UnholyXD
00:44.27MethoS-gcc compiles it
00:44.31MethoS-c++ doesn't
00:44.38MethoS-main.c:1: error: '::main' must return 'int'
00:45.08MethoS-Olipro: so, void main() is definetly C
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00:45.10Oliproyou and your primitive linux compilers
00:45.28MethoS-which one do you use?
00:45.29Olipromy superior MS compiler can do void main and zero sized arrays
00:45.42Olipro(note, I'm joking)
00:45.44MethoS-my c compiler takes it as well
00:45.51MethoS-only the c++ doens't
00:45.57MethoS-->no problems
00:46.01MethoS-:PP
00:47.12Unholyolipro can i have your msn or email?
00:47.16Unholyfor future questions
00:47.19UnholyXD
00:47.32Oliprohave I have ten quid?
00:47.36Olipro*can I have ten quid
00:47.42Oliprohow do I shot web?
00:47.48stinebdhow is babby formed?
00:47.50OliproI accidentally the whole bottle
00:51.18Unholyolipro can separate the procces with // procces? you know to make look cleaner
00:51.32Olipro/ is for comments
00:51.40Oliprostupid IRC
00:51.49Olipro// is for comments
00:51.58Unholyi know under that i would cout theprocces
00:52.01Oliproanything you write after // will be completely ignored by the compiler
00:52.08Unholyoh
00:52.12Unholythen i cant
00:52.25Oliprothe only purpose of comments is for humans to get some information on what you're doing
00:52.36Olipro/here we cout the information
00:52.40Olipro*//
00:52.55Olipro/ only applies to a single line
00:53.01Unholyi see
00:53.08Olipro<PROTECTED>
00:53.13Olipro*/ ends it
00:53.37Oliproif you want to make it look cleaner, do whatever you like
00:53.57Oliproyou can stick stuff on newlines if you want
00:54.03Oliproso long as the ; is in the right place it's fine
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00:56.42Unholyand if i want to print that information to the console to like say, count "sum result ": ; to show me the result of the sum or the multyplication
00:57.28Oliprowell, if you were writing sums on paper
00:57.32Oliproyou'd use + wouldn't you
00:57.33Oliproso
00:57.36Oliprowhat do you think C++ uses
00:57.47Oliproor pretty much any computer language for that matter
01:00.12Unholynvm the it prints the result nice
01:00.14Unholyit worked
01:00.15Unholyi love you
01:01.52Unholyholy shit this is so nice
01:02.47Oliprocongratulations on making a poor man's calculator
01:03.01Unholyjajaja
01:03.08Unholyerm ups its hahaha
01:03.32OliproI could write that shit in assembler
01:03.38Oliprobecause I'm fucking hardcore
01:03.40OliproHARDCORE
01:09.48Unholyolimpro what if i want to be creative and add like a sort of wait time before the result, something like     wait 1.0ms
01:15.55Unholyolipro my masta were you go
01:17.23Oliprocall sleep
01:17.28Oliprosleep(100);
01:17.30Oliprothat's 100 ms
01:17.36Olipro1000ms is 1 second
01:18.35Unholycount "plz wait:" ;
01:18.35Unholysleep(1000);
01:18.38Unholylike that?
01:24.01Unholyolipro compler says sleep is not a valid identifier
01:24.11Unholycompiler.
01:27.51makkonenMrPippy: do you have wifi working in the latest kernel? I hear something happened with the wireless module, but I'm not seeing what exactly.
01:30.26MrPippyi haven't tried it lately but yeah, it should be working
01:31.15MrPippyi haven't tried the latest xdandroid though, maybe thats the problem
01:32.50MrPippyohhh...latest xdandroid pulls calibration from nand instead of using a stock one
01:32.59MrPippyif they aren't using the right offset, its not gonna work
01:33.54makkonenah
01:34.13MrPippyi know the offset for diam500, hopefully its the same for raph800
01:34.14makkonenso it's clearly not the right offset. how do I determine it?
01:34.33makkonenand where does it go? I saw a few things changed in the rootfs.
01:36.05MrPippyyeah i'm grabbing it now to see how they did it, the commands i use to get the cal are at http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=WL1251
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01:36.54MrPippyfound it by dumping nand and searching for the header--in my nand it appeared twice, but the 2nd one is the right one
01:37.04makkonenah
01:39.07makkonenyeah, it's in init.etc/wifi/loadit
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01:39.58makkonenunfortunately, it uses the same offsets you do.
01:41.26MrPippyreally? weird, someone in my thread is having a problem
01:42.15mcdullHi,
01:42.26bzoI can't get wifi to start on my diam500, using the latest xdandroid with the included kernel and modules
01:43.07MrPippyinteresting
01:43.21MrPippyis it working for other devices (like diam100)?
01:43.36bzopresumably, since that is what phh is using :)
01:43.44makkonentrying to run the commands from the wifi-calibration script from an adb shell, insmod /lib/modules/mtdchar.ko fails to load saying 'invalid module format'...
01:44.03bzolet me fire up adb and see if there is anything in the log
01:44.49MrPippyohh...now we have to include the mtd modules with our kernels?
01:44.51makkonenyeah, just failing because the module is the wrong version.
01:44.55makkonenyup.
01:48.55bzoaw shoot, adb is not working for me with this kernel. I think phh enabled usb massstorage in his kernel which breaks adb for the diam500
01:49.18bzobut since I'm running with the included kernel and modules, you would think I couldn't have the mtd module problem
01:50.45makkonencan't you just echo 2 > /sys/devices/platform/msm_hsusb/usb_function_switch
01:51.20makkonenwell, maybe glemsom hasn't been updated about the change, and his system isn't building the mtd modules yet either.
01:51.27bzomaybe for windows adb, but linux adb expects to see a composite device
01:51.31makkonenah
01:51.57makkonenlast time I enabled mass storage, it killed data and ground the whole thing to a halt, so I haven't bothered with it in a while. :-)
01:54.24bzothere does seem to be some unexplained conflict... though it may be less dramatic now
01:56.14makkoneneven on the vogue they don't have simultaneous mass storage and adb working. that was disappointing.
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01:57.03bzoI guess it must be another one of these cdma quirks
01:57.54bzospeaking of which, I sure wish we could figure out the mic init problem
01:58.06Unholyolipro you here?
01:59.19MrPippyyeah, mic and battery status are the biggest features left i think
01:59.50bzoMrPippy: is the mic controlled directly by the MSM, or is there another chip/driver?
02:00.13makkonendid you ever take battery status from my tree? it's... better than nothing. that's about all the praise I'll give it.
02:01.02MrPippyyeah the mic is all msm, more arm11/arm9 rpc fun
02:01.14bzomakkonen: I was running with your battery tweaks for a while. Huge improvement over the constant 5% status. At least you had some hint as to the charge state
02:01.27Oliproyes Unholy
02:01.28MrPippyhaven't tried your battery status but i've got it open, should really try it
02:02.20Unholythat sleep identifier dosent work, compiler complains its not valid, i also found another one voidsleep() is that the same?
02:02.24makkonenbzo: yeah. it's not good, but it's good enough that I don't really have to think about it all the time.
02:02.45MrPippydoes charge status show up right?
02:03.02makkonenas in whether the charger is connected? no.
02:03.12bzoMrPippy: I was thinking about what we chatted about the other day about the heroc differences. They must have crammed everything into the a9 firmware they weren't allowed to open source, and just exposed a single rpc call to the a11
02:03.44makkonenI don't really understand what's up with that. I'm pretty sure all the fake_charger stuff has been disabled at this point, but it's still wrong. I haven't looked at it at all closely, though.
02:04.05MrPippyyup thats what they did, shove everything into amss and you don't have to open source it
02:04.33bzowonder why the battery stuff is proprietary though?
02:04.47MrPippyyeah the charger status should be easy, its a gpio and we know what it is
02:05.17Unholyolipro can pm me your msn?
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02:06.15MrPippybattery status isn't really proprietary, we have access to the voltage/current/temp values, but they're uncorrected raw values
02:06.43bzoI mean the battery calculations
02:07.03bzoperhaps they are using someone else's library
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02:15.44mcdullconfirmed that 3D completely broke in Blackstone.
02:16.34mcdullfun thing is that, the phone "restart" inself when I try a 3d game.  So acutally the phone could be restarted by some means.
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02:36.06Unholyanyone here  know c++? i need help with colotext()
02:36.59MrPippynever heard of that function
02:38.10Unholycolortext sorry
02:39.28MrPippystill never heard of that, is it windows or linux?
02:39.28Unholyi just want to color a the comment of one of my cout
02:39.35Unholywindows  heh
02:39.41tmzt?
02:39.41Unholyits a homework
02:39.48tmztcolor?
02:39.59Unholyyea change the color fo the font
02:40.04Unholyfrom black to w/e i want
02:40.05UnholyXD
02:40.09tmztansi?
02:40.10Unholyof*
02:40.30tmztI bet your overloading an operator and that's the homework
02:40.41Unholy0o
02:40.42Unholylol
02:41.05Unholynah i just finished this calculating program witch olipro helpd me with
02:41.17Unholyi want to color a comment
02:41.22Unholyil shwo what imean
02:41.25Unholyshow*
02:42.02Unholycout << "Please Wait While  Your Problem is Processing: " << endl; you see the commented are i want it to come ot in the console green not blue
02:42.07Unholyi mean black*
02:42.08Unholyomfg typos
02:42.23Unholyarea*
03:26.49makkonenok, built the mtd modules... inserted the mtd modules... mknod'ed the mtd0ro device... but when I dd from it, I get ENODEV
03:28.31adamwmakkonen: i used the regular (i.e. not read-only node), worked for me...
03:28.49MrPippyi think the ro device is provided by mtdblock_ro, is that inserted?
03:28.49makkonenscary.
03:29.02adamwmakkonen: i never liked my phone that much anyhow :P
03:29.03makkonenah. that's the problem.
03:29.43makkonenhmm. device or resource busy.
03:30.02adamwunload the modules and just reload the ones you need?
03:30.07adamw(and remove the device node you created)
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03:30.35makkonenit'd be cool if depmod worked here.
03:30.43makkonenit'd also be cool if rmmod worked here.
03:32.17adamwoh yes I forgot that.
03:32.28adamwmodinfo would also be handy. :P
03:32.33adamwthough at least you can run that on your build system.
03:32.37adamw(to figure out the deps)
03:32.57makkonenfortunately pushing the stylus in the bottom of the phone works. that unloads the modules.
03:33.25adamwalong with some other small side effects i guess
03:34.01makkonenturning on animations sort of makes the phone feel faster. stupid brain, getting all confused by shiny things.
03:35.24makkonenok. guess I'm just going to add all these insmod commands to the rootfs script. see what happens.
03:38.19makkonenwait, the script has rmmod in it. does it work at some point, and then break when android comes up? or is this script just overly optimistic?
03:43.08MrPippyi think phh was confident that android wouldn't mess with nand
03:43.30MrPippybut i don't know...it probably wouldn't be hard to write and compile a rmmod replacement that actually works
03:44.57makkonenso before this change, was every android raph/diam/topa/rhod reporting the same mac address?
03:45.17MrPippyyeah
03:45.42makkonencute.
03:47.02makkonenhm... I'm also reporting 102392 B of swap now. maybe that should be changed in eclair.user.conf
03:47.14makkonenalthough... everything seems to be running fine.
03:47.22makkonenAnother thing I don't understand.
03:54.15makkonenall modules inserted successfully, still ENODEV. is the non-readonly device on a different minor number for mknod?
03:55.41makkonen0 vs 1, looks like.
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04:06.37makkonenmtd0, also ENODEV
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08:34.47MrPippydoes the current xdandroid wifi loadit script work for gsm (is the calibration offset in nand right)?
08:36.01makkonenhow come no one's been here to answer that question today?
08:36.09makkonenhave we been ditched by the community?
08:37.08makkonendo you have it working on your side?
08:37.20MrPippydiam500 and raph800 need a different offset (skip=4048 instead of skip=4736)
08:37.37MrPippyhaven't tried it yet, but its the commands i used months ago, so it should work
08:38.04makkonenI just had trouble accessing the mtd device. Couldn't even get to the point where that would've failed.
08:38.28MrPippyworked for me, i just put mtdchar.ko into the modules tarball
08:38.50MrPippythe calibration was just wince garbage though
08:39.02makkonenhuh
08:39.14makkonendon't know what's going on on mine, then.
08:39.35makkonenyou just let the regular script run from the rootfs?
08:39.45MrPippyyeah didn't modify it
08:39.47MrPippyit wasn't able to remove mtdchar though, i still don't think rmmod is working
08:40.40makkonenI don't see what's different between my build and yours that would cause mine to report no device.
08:41.05MrPippyyou have the msm nand built in?
08:41.36makkonenmaybe I missed it.
08:41.40makkonenthat would certainly explain it.
08:42.30MrPippyCONFIG_MTD_MSM_NAND=y
08:43.10MrPippythe driver does have a hardcoded list of flash chips (256MB and 512MB ones), its possible the raph800 one isn't listed
08:43.18makkonenI've got it as a module for some reason. which I assume I'm failing to insert.
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08:43.44MrPippyyeah just build it in
08:44.07makkonenhmm. depends on something that's a module, blah blah blah
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08:44.33MrPippyCONFIG_MTD=y also
08:47.08MrPippynice i changed loadit and it worked
08:48.56MrPippyargh i don't want to have to post a rootfs on my forum thread, the file uploader never works with big files
08:49.26makkonenxda-devs seems pretty shaky.
08:49.52makkonennot a great sign when you click a link and don't really ever trust it to load.
08:54.28makkonenI've just started uploading complete packages with dropbox. Hoping to eliminate some of the more aggressively stupid user error.
08:55.04MrPippymaybe loadit can just grep cpuinfo for "CDMA" and then use 4048
08:56.38MrPippyhehe i kinda want to get out of the kernel-uploading business altogether, i only have a few out-of-tree patches that i should really push anyway
08:58.19makkonenyeah. seems like all the raph800/diam500 stuff that matters is in the mainline linux-msm repo.
08:58.45MrPippyi've thought about starting a thread on ppcgeeks (since there's so much more cdma traffic there) but i don't want to deal with the users
08:59.37makkonenyeah. I was just thinking about it. there's a lot of hassle, and really no benefit. you get people to find bugs, I guess.
09:00.13makkonenand you get lauded. But that's not really worth much.
09:05.19MrPippyhehe maybe i'll just make a thread with a link to your thread
09:06.46makkonenyou spend your time actually poring over patches and improving the code. I spend my time responding to idiots.
09:07.17makkonenhmm. something still failed on my end.
09:09.59makkonencreated wifi-calibration file, though.
09:11.31makkonen...and it is entirely null bytes?
09:13.53makkonenoh, I reverted the skip= value change. wtg, me.
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09:50.56makkonenonly the truly foolish.
09:51.53lilsnoopYeah me too, loving android on my touch pro/fuze
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09:54.28lilsnoopYes that is true, I'm running the 2/4 build and it is quite stable...still love it more than win mo on it
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10:09.55Paul_Isheninthanks
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12:06.11Captnoordhmmm why always when I found something interesting I can't test it....
12:06.12Captnoordbleh
12:06.16Captnoordhate beeing on windows
12:06.31Captnoordmaybe found why 3d shit isn't working out of the box
12:06.39Captnoordonly when you run a 3d app before booting
12:07.31Captnoordcr2: #define GRP_CLK8   /* Graphics clock */
12:07.47Captnoordif I check the ati dll it tells me that the clock is 54
12:07.49Captnoordand not 8
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12:28.51Captnoordbalans
12:28.55Captnoordwakker?
12:30.28mcdullmay I know which irc client best for ubuntu?
12:30.53mcdullI am using X-Chat gnome...
12:31.23CaptnoordI always tought that was the best... but its related to what you call 'best'
12:31.28Captnoordas its related to what you need
12:31.45mcdullcan I show user list always?
12:31.58CaptnoordI clue
12:32.02Captnoordno clue*
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12:32.32mcdulland it doesn't enter password automatically... I need /msg every time I login
12:32.59CaptnoordI don't know
12:33.06Captnoordmaybe you can google for a feature comparisment
12:33.21mcdullanyway, at least it works/
12:33.29Captnoordtrue
12:33.56Captnoordmcdull: have you the kernel compile stuff setup? do you compile your own kernels?
12:34.22mcdullI tried.. but I don't know how to compile the wifi module.
12:34.42Captnoordnah... not talking about the wifi module
12:34.48Captnoordthe kernel
12:35.06mcdullnot recently. may be I can try it now.
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12:35.25Captnoordcould you build me a kernel
12:35.32Captnoordwhich some changes
12:35.35Captnoord1 actualy
12:35.55mcdullI need to confirm my kernel compiled working first.
12:36.03Captnoordclock.h in the arch/arm/msm directory
12:36.04Captnoordk
12:36.24Captnoordchange #define GRP_CLK8  /* Graphics clock */
12:36.25Captnoordto
12:36.26Captnoord#define GRP_CLK54  /* Graphics clock */
12:44.39Captnoordlol
12:44.42Captnoordnvm that won't work
12:44.45Captnoordbleh!!!!!
12:46.29mcdullso I don't need to try?
12:46.42Captnoordnope
12:46.54GNUtoo0x405ca0b0 <MSMProbe+256>:movwr1, #17922; 0x4602
12:46.55CaptnoordI need to actualy code stuff to make it work
12:47.03GNUtooI'll look
12:47.04Captnoordhugs GNUtoo
12:47.08mcdullok.. then I take time to set up environment including wifi module.
12:47.12Captnoordk
12:47.29GNUtooCaptnoord, ?
12:47.45Captnoordnvm
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12:55.47GNUtoowhat kind of instruction is that
12:55.59GNUtooa grep in ARM Architecture Reference Manual didn't find it
12:56.03GNUtooI'll look at mov
12:56.36GNUtoobecause it could be a condition
12:57.03mcdullany one knows the howto in compiling a wifi enabled kernel?
12:57.09Captnoordmovw
12:57.12Captnoordis
12:57.14Captnoordmove word
12:57.17Captnoordor
12:57.19Captnoordmove wide
12:57.21Captnoordlemme check
12:57.34mcdullgit://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/compat-wireless-msm.git
12:57.43mcdullis it the only git I need for wifi?
12:58.19GNUtoonot in condition
12:58.25GNUtoook
12:58.27GNUtoothanks
12:58.32Captnoordk
12:59.36GNUtoomaybe neon then
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13:01.43CaptnoordGNUtoo: if it was movmi then it was conditional
13:01.52Captnoordmovwr1, #17922; 0x4602
13:01.58Captnoordthe asm talks for itself
13:02.01Captnoordthis is just
13:02.15Captnoorduint16 r1 = 0x4602;
13:02.52GNUtooI forgetten to tell my problem:
13:03.34GNUtooProgram received signal SIGILL, Illegal instruction.
13:03.49GNUtoo0x405ca0b0 in MSMProbe () from /mnt/embedded_rootfs/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/msm_drv.so
13:04.21Captnoordsend me the .so
13:04.22Captnoord:P
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13:05.04GNUtoook
13:05.33Captnoordi'll flush it trough ida.... maybe I can see what this is
13:06.06GNUtoohttp://ftp.o2s.ch/pub/openmoko/ipk/armv6-novfp/xf86-video-msm_1.1.0%2br9d%2bgitr5f7df59155ae301a3ebc40aec22ed16d203cb5fc-r9d.4_armv6-novfp.ipk
13:06.26GNUtooI've gdb setup
13:06.28GNUtooand running
13:06.35GNUtoogdbserver->gdb
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13:06.46Captnoordis a slave of windows atm
13:06.48Captnoord:S
13:07.13GNUtooah: 0x405ca218 <MSMProbe+616>:undefined instruction 0xffffeb30
13:07.17GNUtooI didn't see that
13:07.32GNUtooI'll pastebin the disass
13:07.52Captnoordthe file you send me is the .so?
13:07.53Captnoordk
13:08.10GNUtoohttp://pastebin.com/d41a49753
13:08.12GNUtoono
13:08.15GNUtooit was the ipk
13:08.18GNUtoocontaining the so
13:08.31CaptnoordI don't think I can extract ipk on windows
13:08.35slightam i right in thinking there's no 3d driver for xorg for raphael?
13:09.02CaptnoordGNUtoo: Backtrace stopped: previous frame identical to this frame (corrupt stack?)
13:09.05GNUtooah ok
13:09.05Captnoordcan't trust it
13:09.27GNUtoook nice...mmm
13:09.36GNUtooso I'll give you the file
13:09.36Captnoordusualy you need to go up one stack call
13:09.42GNUtoook
13:09.44GNUtoohere I can't
13:10.02Captnoordk
13:11.35Captnoordstrheq  lr, [r0], -r4
13:11.39Captnoordis tricky
13:11.52Captnoordhalf if equal
13:12.11Captnoord*(( r0 - r4 )) = lr
13:12.15Captnoordlr = link register
13:12.22Captnoordso if you do a bl...
13:12.25Captnoordbranch link
13:12.37Captnoordyou can change lr so you can make the functions like a linked list
13:12.58CaptnoordI think its borked because the offset where its pointing
13:13.04Captnoordisn't a function
13:13.17Captnoordso would suggest the problem is somewhere related to those functions
13:13.17Captnoordor
13:13.32Captnoordwhere the functions would be located
13:13.54GNUtoohttp://gnutoo.homelinux.org/debug/msm_drv.so
13:14.19GNUtoook
13:14.24GNUtoothanks a lot
13:14.42mcdullthe git repo is very slow... 1k/s
13:14.58CaptnoordGNUtoo: but what I just sayd can be related to the stack corruption
13:15.07GNUtoook
13:15.17Captnoordstack corruption is like allocating a single byte in memory
13:15.24GNUtooI don't know why but everytime I bt now I've stack coruption
13:15.27Captnoordand typecasting it as a short
13:15.36Captnoordand then store a value in that short
13:15.48GNUtoocan it be codesourcey's toolchain?
13:15.48Captnoordresulting memory beeing written outside the allocated space / stack...
13:15.57Captnoordpossible.... but I don't know......
13:16.04GNUtoook
13:16.14GNUtooI'll try another toolchain
13:16.24GNUtoobecause I have it everytime
13:16.25CaptnoordI personaly hate stack corruptions because its almost impossible to debug them properly
13:16.30GNUtooI'll ask in oe
13:16.33Captnoordk
13:16.41Captnoordand they are always something very small
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13:22.54Captnoordphh the stackpointer has been corrupted
13:23.02CaptnoordGNUtoo: the stackpointer has been corrupted
13:23.03Captnoordwoeps
13:23.05Captnoordsorry phh
13:24.27GNUtoook
13:26.06Captnoordfrom my point of view it can be amost everything
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13:28.11Captnoordhmmmm
13:28.30Captnoordyup
13:28.38Captnoordthe sp is 0x10 bigger than it needs to be
13:28.42Captnoordso it ends up
13:28.50Captnoord.text:00002218 off_2218        DCD dword_EFAC - 0x1047C ; DATA XREF: MSMProbe+1Cr
13:28.51Captnoordhere
13:29.08Captnoord00002218  30 EB FF FF
13:29.16Captnoord#
13:29.16Captnoord0x405ca218 <MSMProbe+616>:      undefined instruction 0xffffeb30
13:29.21Captnoordsee
13:29.50Captnoordotherwise it would have ended up at
13:29.51Captnoord.text:00002208 loc_2208                                ; CODE XREF: MSMProbe+250j
13:29.56Captnoordwhich is the exit function
13:30.09Captnoordhow this all is possible I can't explain
13:33.50GNUtoook
13:33.54GNUtoothanks a lot
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14:30.23GNUtoonice I've no more symbols...but I've frames
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14:38.06The_Eccentricwin!
14:38.51Paul_Ishenincongratulations. but in what game?
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14:52.14slighthttp://www.myriadgroup.com/Media-Centre/News/MYRIAD-BRINGS-3x-FASTER-APPLICATIONS-RICHER-GAME-GRAPHICS-AND-BETTER-BATTERY-LIFE-TO-ANDROID.aspx
14:52.18slighteww ugly url
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15:00.50GNUtoohi leviathan
15:02.09Paul_Isheninslight, very nice info
15:06.13slightlooks interesting doesn't it
15:06.29slightsuspect it might be hard to get hold of though
15:07.27mcdullhi
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16:01.31GNUtooleviathan, ping I need your xf86-video-msm modifications else I can't debug it
16:12.16slightGNUtoo, can you tell me if there's 3d accel with xorg for raphael? i've found some bits in logs that seem to imply there might be, but nothing concrete
16:12.38GNUtooslight, it's just memory management...there is no 3d
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16:13.30slightsaw leviathan refer to some binary that could be "linked in to get 3d-acceleration"
16:13.53slightbut he was probably talking about something else
16:14.02GNUtooat the beginning I thought there was but someone corrected me telling me that there isn't because it was only for memory management
16:14.08slightk
16:14.10slightbugger
16:14.15GNUtooslight, maybe the android lib for 3d
16:14.22slighti really want n900 ui :)
16:14.34slightbut it looks like i'll have to buy an n900 ;)
16:14.39GNUtooslight, we have a nice ui with enlightenment
16:14.58slightoh i saw raster was doing phone oriented stuff
16:15.02GNUtooslight, there is a test app that has great performance
16:15.07GNUtooon the htcdream
16:15.42slighti guess having it usable as a day to day UI is probably a long way off though?
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16:27.48GNUtooslight, no it's easy as changing the config of enlightenment
16:27.58GNUtoojust that nobody did it
16:29.20GNUtooleviathan, ping
16:29.28GNUtooI won't re-do your work
16:29.39GNUtooand I *NEED* your oe diff
16:32.13GNUtoo-mfpu=neon
16:32.18GNUtooneon is for armv7
16:32.30GNUtoook I'll do something else....
16:32.38GNUtoono patches no debugging
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16:35.05slightillume for e17 looks nice
16:35.58GNUtooyes
16:36.06GNUtooit has a test app
16:36.10GNUtoothat is even nicer
16:36.13slightheh :D
16:36.45slightcan mer do 3g on raph et al?
16:37.13slighti would have tested by now myself but i've not got the keyboard enter key working right or the touch screen
16:37.27GNUtooslight, you'll have some problem for replacing the non-free libs
16:38.32slightfrom maemo?
16:40.06GNUtooyes maemo could depend on some non-free libs for the telefony
16:40.19GNUtoohttp://wiki.maemo.org/Free_Maemo
16:40.21slightright
16:40.59slightwow
16:41.12slighti knew there were closed bits but i didn't realise there were that many
16:41.13GNUtooindeed there is a lot of non-free stuff
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16:51.58CaptnoordGNUtoo: progress?
16:52.06GNUtooCaptnoord, I need leviathan
16:52.18GNUtooCaptnoord,  I bet he built it with neon
16:52.18Captnoordslight 3d works on raph.... before booting run a 3d app and it will enable the 3d clock
16:52.39Captnoordhehe
16:52.43Captnoordhe did yea
16:52.58GNUtoowe have no neon
16:53.09GNUtooneon is armv7 no?
16:53.24Captnoordneon_memcopy
16:53.27CaptnoordI don't know
16:53.32GNUtoomaybe he doesn't know what neon is so it didn't trigger something
16:53.36GNUtooin his mind
16:53.44Captnoordpossible
16:54.13GNUtooI tried first with debugger but it was broken...so I looked at the sources
16:54.27GNUtooand found that it was very trivial things that were made in neon
16:54.39Captnoordhehe
16:55.19GNUtooso easy to replace
16:55.48Captnoordyup... only you need to rebuild... hehe
16:55.57Captnoordor rework the .so
16:55.57Captnoord:P
16:56.18Captnoorddon't be scared I won't even do it
16:57.09GNUtoomickeyl, would a mailing list be usefull? I think so... where can I find one?
16:57.30GNUtoohow could I rework the so
16:57.46Captnoordyour really interested?
16:57.46GNUtooI only change the branch and link but to what address?
16:57.48GNUtooyes
16:57.59Captnoordyou can rip out the neon functions
16:58.03Captnoordand replace them with the correct ones
16:58.07GNUtoook
16:58.10mickeylGNUtoo: htc linux hackers are not interested in mailing lists
16:58.11Captnoordbut... its very time consuming
16:58.12GNUtoobut they aren't inlined
16:58.13mickeylwe have one since ages
16:58.16mickeylbut it's not being used
16:58.18GNUtoomickeyl, I am
16:58.25GNUtoook
16:58.27mickeylGNUtoo: excellent, lets start making use of it
16:58.31GNUtoowhere it is?
16:58.39GNUtooit's mainly for leviathan and me
16:59.23mickeylhttp://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/mobile-linux-discuss/
17:00.13GNUtoothanks a lot
17:00.23GNUtoobtw did you hear about leviathan after fosdem?
17:00.32mickeylnp, guys like dcordes and cr2 should be subscribed there as well IIRC
17:00.40mickeylGNUtoo: not really, no
17:00.59mickeylalthough he seems to talk in #neo1973-germany
17:00.59GNUtoook
17:01.18Captnoordhttp://fosdem.org/2010/
17:01.20Captnoordthat one?
17:01.29GNUtooyes
17:02.34GNUtoodoes someone has leviathan's oe patches for building xf86-video-msm?
17:02.48GNUtoomickeyl, btw gdb is half broken in oe
17:03.03GNUtoomaybe I should send a mail
17:03.17GNUtoono symbols but assembly works fine
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17:04.10GNUtooin codesourcey the symbols work...but not the rest(frame coruption)
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17:12.11slightCaptnoord, regarding 3d, is that just for android or for 'regular' linux running xorg too?
17:12.34slighti have 3d working in android which is great but i had my eyes on hildon
17:14.43Captnoordthats regardless linux
17:14.48Captnoordnot related to android
17:14.54Captnoordbut that the 3d part
17:14.57Captnoordxorg
17:15.01Captnoordis something entirely different
17:15.05Captnoordcheck netrippers log for it
17:15.11Captnoordthere are some people working on it or not
17:15.34slight3d is usually handled by a kernel driver rather than an xorg driver?
17:16.15slightanyway, cheers, i'll poke through the logs :)
17:27.37mcdullany good news today?
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17:56.33GNUtooleviathan, ping
17:58.43MrPippycool froyo will be 2.6.32 and gingerbread will be .33 or .34
17:58.51phh[21:56:53] <bzo> phh: have you seen the qualcomm gps source? http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/hardware/qcom/gps.git;a=summary <----- baaaahhhhhhh I think it's too late for these infos now -_-'
17:58.54phhstill it's good to have.
17:59.20phh[22:13:33] <makkonen> I guess it could be... but it looks like just the higher level tie-in stuff for android to talk to the lower level drivers. I imagine what we need is better source for those lower level parts. <-------- nope, it's direct access to A9
17:59.45phhwell, there is the rpc layer around it, but it only helps readability (and we have rpc sources)
18:01.08phh(I have seen only few code lines of these sources yet)
18:02.20phh[23:15:36] <Captnoord> how I think the batt driver should be coded like <----- I'd prefer a stateless battery reading :/
18:03.47phh[04:43:28] <MrPippy> i think phh was confident that android wouldn't mess with nand <----- I insmod then read then rmmod and delete the device
18:03.57phhit can't kill anything
18:04.01MrPippyhas rmmod ever worked right for you?
18:04.04phhor if it can't, it's murphy, and I can't do anything against it.
18:04.16phhMrPippy: there is a little mkdir to do, see the loadit script
18:04.30phh(and yes, it still gives an error when calling rmmod, but it works.)
18:04.50MrPippyyeah, mtdchar was still loaded for me
18:04.55phharf
18:06.27MrPippymaybe we should delete mtd0 and mtd0ro just in case it doesn't unload right
18:07.26babijoeetoo sleepy :p
18:07.49babijoeei'll be on tommorow :)
18:08.47phhyyyyaaaaaayyyyyy
18:08.54phhthe libgps has a totally new rpc from us.
18:08.58phhso totally useless.
18:13.39DarkMasterHalo:(, I only get 8hours of battery,  I want more !, but hey, the battery status seems to be reporting fine now :D
18:13.42MrPippyswetland: We've already moved to 2.6.32 (final cleaned up branches should be online this week)
18:15.06mickeyl.32 for which machines?
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18:16.41MrPippyits the common android tree, i don't know if it supports any machines  (maybe the emulator)
18:24.21phhMrPippy: 2.6.32 has huge changes
18:24.30MrPippyfor what?
18:25.01phhmsmfb
18:25.33mcdullGood night / morning / evening and bye.
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18:51.39leobaillard[19:23] <phh> MrPippy: 2.6.32 has huge changes <-- what do they imply ?
18:51.52phhlot of time :p
18:52.33leobaillardyeah, but you mentionned msmfb, what does it change for this for example ?
18:52.56phhnew texture format
18:53.06phhsupport of their X driver
18:53.15leobaillardoh ! that's great !
18:53.47phh<PROTECTED>
18:53.48phh7k*
18:54.19leobaillardoh... :(
18:54.26tmztcaptnoord: that's interesting
18:55.18tmztcaptnoord: 7zip ccan extract ipk, it's ar+tar.gz
18:57.33tmztGNUtoo: xorg? :)
18:58.03GNUtootmzt, yes...I strongly hesitate from stoping to wait
18:58.07GNUtoofor leviathan
18:58.23tmztslight: you should be able to adapt the android libhgl to a egl wrapper like kristen's and use that
18:58.35tmztbut that probably means leaving pmem in place
18:59.08phhtmzt: AFAIK pmem stuff is handled by the stuff for which we have source code
19:00.14tmztslight: I think the best choice is to work on mer (#mer) which has similar goals such as replacing the non-free stuff and supporting less capable hardware
19:00.16slightinteresting. but way over my head unfortunately :)
19:00.37phhtmzt: someone wrote egl wrappers to android egl ?
19:00.39phhcool
19:00.47slighti'm just an interested linx user (of many years, but still ;)
19:00.47tmztwhat is msm_drv?
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19:06.26tmztMrPippy: android on 2.6.32?
19:06.51tmztoh, that's not quite what lev was doing with upstream
19:08.07tmztphh: libagl is such a wrapper
19:08.17tmztbut Xorg really needs a mesa port
19:08.50phhyou might port Xegl on this lib
19:08.59tmztthe webos-internals people have wrappers in both driections now for the sgx chip
19:09.04tmztXegl is dead
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19:09.55tmztso all this eclair-specific stuff with logic in the kernel is coming to 2.6.32 now?
19:10.04tmztwhere is gnu project going?
19:10.26phheclair specific logic ?
19:10.31tmztis there just no interest
19:10.49tmztlike the msm driver, tssc server, gps/rpc?
19:11.02phh"msm driver" ?
19:11.05BrilliantMistakeTest for echo
19:11.08phhtssc server ?
19:11.23phhgps/rpc ?
19:11.26tmzthmm, hw3d_eclair, tssc calibration
19:11.37phhtssc calibration has no link with android
19:11.43phhit's just a better driver than our
19:11.49tmztcoding kernel abi to match android userspace
19:11.59tmztbut why is calibration in the kernel?
19:12.03phhhw3d_eclair is because they improved their API, if we had to handle DRI2, such things would happen
19:12.12BrilliantMistakeAnybody got 2 mins private to discuss rebuilding system.sqsh?
19:12.13tmztthat's good
19:12.26phhBrilliantMistake: unsquashfs3 && mksquashfs3
19:12.28tmztprogress is of course good
19:12.39BrilliantMistakemore complicated than that!
19:12.39phhtmzt: ok, calibration in kernel is no good.
19:12.45phhat least the calibration UI is no longer in the kernel :p
19:12.48phhBrilliantMistake: no it's not :p
19:12.50BrilliantMistakeI'll be shot for this, but it's on win32!
19:12.59phhBrilliantMistake: then get a linux :p
19:13.11tmztyou can't do permissions on windows
19:13.21tmzttry colinux or ubuntu server vm
19:13.56tmztphh: and the alsa driver?
19:13.57BrilliantMistakeif I could I would... don't ask... no room, I'm messing with osx86!
19:14.18tmztsound works on rhod100 now? any reason that shouldn't work in a gnu environment?
19:14.21phhtmzt: I let people with working devices playing with that.
19:14.37phhno, still no sound on rhod
19:14.37BrilliantMistakeI think it's the permissions that are failing, but not certain... setting all files owned by root
19:14.42tmztBrilliantMistake: use case-sensitive fs and compile squash tools for it
19:14.51tmztdon't do that
19:14.58BrilliantMistakejust don't wanna hog this thread
19:15.26tmzthmm, how is diam? have you exhausted it's potential yet?
19:15.50phhtmzt: no it's actual android problems with diam.
19:15.56phhnot enough ram :'(
19:16.04phhwell, I guess it has enough, but not correctly used.
19:16.13tmztyeah
19:16.38phhI tried to use some memory from SMI, but it just crashed
19:16.44phhI didn't make any further tries after that
19:18.04slightBrilliantMistake, you could get an amazon ec2 account and boot a server on it
19:18.22slightthey're pay as you go, just remember to shut it down when you're done
19:18.24BrilliantMistakeoooh didn't know about that
19:18.44slighthttp://aws.amazon.com/ec2/
19:19.02slightonce you're signed up you can use this to manage instances:
19:19.04slighthttps://console.aws.amazon.com/ec2/home
19:19.13BrilliantMistakealso, whilst I'm here... is compression on squashfs worthwhile on msm?
19:19.21slighti booted a windows server 2008 install to test a website in ie8 the other day ;p
19:19.44BrilliantMistakeI've got squashfs tools on windows... just finding my sqsh ain't working!
19:20.07phhBrilliantMistake: makkonen tried ext2, it wasn't smoother
19:20.15slight<tmzt> you can't do permissions on windows
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19:21.37BrilliantMistakeright, VM here I come.... I hate Mark Shuttleworth, but Ubuntu will just have to do
19:23.00tmztbecause he tried to give the world real crypto?
19:23.41slighthey man you're runnign windows, you can't bitch about ubuntu being impure ;p
19:24.03BrilliantMistakeharsh, but fair
19:24.23slighttmzt's answer was better though heh
19:25.08BrilliantMistakeI'm just packaging up the releases in a cab for the XDA users...it's going really nicely and widely adopted, but I'm discovering the 'content' (apps) etc are a mess
19:25.49BrilliantMistakeso trying to clean it up.... while you lot figure out where the 3rd dimension actually went (HW3D)!
19:25.55tmztwhat's the reason, I'm curious
19:27.45BrilliantMistakethe apps are duplicated in the system.sqsh and 'AndroidApps' folder... total waste
19:28.03tmzthmm, I mean Shuttleworth
19:28.43BrilliantMistakeah...long story... 5 interviews with Canonical
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19:29.05tmzthmm
19:29.19tmztso it's personal reason not generic
19:29.29tmztokay, at least that's rational
19:30.07BrilliantMistakewell, he's young (ish), good looking (ish), smart, wealthy.... what's to LIKE?
19:30.27slightlol
19:30.51phhBrilliantMistake: you should make an android kitchen :p
19:32.24BrilliantMistakeSadly, I'm not a Linux guy.... I'm an ex Symbian, Sony Ericsson, Nokia, Motorola guy
19:32.48BrilliantMistakebut my dev days are long behind me
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19:36.38slighthello... "AIGLX enabled"..."Loading extension GLX"
19:38.12slightthat's promising
19:39.00slightright i'm off. night o/
19:39.11phhhas anyone tried sense ui since we got 3D accel back ?
19:40.11BrilliantMistakeresounding chorus of negative there
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19:48.30tmztphh: sense only works on 1.6
19:48.36phhtmzt: ah ok
19:48.52tmzthmm, if no direct rendering that means very little
19:48.57tmztoh, he left
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19:49.22phhtmzt: msm chip just can't do direct rendering
19:49.34phhstill, it's not ridiculous as performances
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19:58.53BrilliantMistakeRight, life beckons.... great work chaps... keep it up. That damn HW3D's a pain, but you'll get it working on my Blackstone eventually! Take care!
19:59.20phhBrilliantMistake: it will wait for my rhod to come
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20:06.15MrPippythe spy shots of the htc incredible show sense ui on 2.1, it probably isn't too far away
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20:14.14adamwis just waiting for phh's rhodium to arrive, in general
20:14.17adamwahh, laziness.
20:14.20phh:D
20:16.30phhI still haven't tried all the games I downloaded -_-'
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20:35.13chamonixhey guys
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20:39.03babijoeehey chamonix
20:39.12babijoeeits abit quiet eh
20:39.29GNUtoook I was fedup and found a hack
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20:43.36chamonixheya babijoee :) hows u?
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21:09.05Spirits-SightHello, anyone the status with the kasier and android?
21:10.49tmzthey
21:11.03tmztseems everything works with dzo's images
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21:14.06phhhow to kill mmc ? just synchronize spotify.
21:14.29tmztmmc?
21:14.38phhinternal storage of my diam
21:15.06MrPippydid you find an improvement with the noop iosched?
21:15.27phhMrPippy: oh i forgot that one.
21:15.35phhactually I think it's actually worst than before :p
21:15.51MrPippyyeah i think it might be
21:15.52phhbut I think it's because of memory, not mmc
21:16.22MrPippyyour diam's lack of memory?
21:16.26phhyes
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21:16.59cr2_NetRipper: ping
21:19.41Spirits-Sightwhere can I find dzo's image for the kasier?
21:19.58Spirits-Sightalso does it have gmail access & market?
21:20.20playdosome improvements with blackstone hw3d done?
21:20.21Spirits-Sighttmzt:  ^^
21:20.30phhplaydo: wait ~ a week :p
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21:21.14playdoi have time phh :D
21:21.24cr2_phh: from haret
21:21.32cr2_hi dcordes
21:21.36cr2_Detected machine Leo/QSD8xxx (Plat='PocketPC' OEM='HTC_HD2')
21:21.38cr2_CPU is Qualcomm ARM arch 7 stepping 2 running in system mode
21:21.39tmztSpirits-Sight: I don't know much about nonA
21:22.01dcordescr2_, others, hi
21:22.05tmztpretty sure some images will have the config to support market and sync
21:22.14cr2_dcordes: ^^
21:22.18tmztcr2_: you have a leo?
21:22.23cr2_yes
21:22.39cr2_just patched haret to support my oem id
21:23.02dcordesnice
21:23.40NetRippersend the patch cr2_
21:23.41NetRipper:)
21:23.47dcordeshi NetRipper
21:23.50Spirits-Sighttmzt: do you know where the dzo keeps his images?
21:23.51NetRipperhi
21:24.10cr2_NetRipper: could not find you at weekend
21:24.26makkonenphh: so you're really getting a rhodium? Have I mentioned to you yet how you should get one with the cdma+gsm radio? :-)
21:24.26NetRipperi've been catching up on work this weekend
21:24.46Spirits-Sightanyone know when a AT&T phone is coming with Android with a nice keyboard is coming?
21:25.00phhmakkonen: AFAIK for rhodium, cdma is the same as gsm but AT commands
21:25.11cr2_NetRipper: patch
21:25.15cr2_-Leo,        QSD8xxx ,HTC HD2 T8585,               HTCLEO
21:25.16cr2_+Leo,        QSD8xxx ,HTC HD2 T8585;HTC_HD2,               HTCLEO
21:25.21dcordesSpirits-Sight, http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/
21:25.22tmztdo we know how to switch the mode yet?
21:25.23NetRipperalright
21:25.24NetRipperta
21:25.35makkonenphh: oh, so many fewer issues than we've had on this generation?
21:26.02cr2_NetRipper: what about vfp ? does it have hw fp support ?
21:26.12NetRipperyes
21:26.18MrPippyso cdma is gonna be all ril? no smd_7500 hack needed?
21:26.21NetRippercr2_, you need android toolchain to build with
21:26.22phhmakkonen: I might be wrong thouogh
21:26.31NetRippercr2_, most other toolchains dont have vfp support
21:26.36cr2_NetRipper: what i really hate is the lameass eiphone like interface and controls ;)
21:26.49adamwSpirits-Sight: you can use a tilt2 or fuze with the keymap for the touch pro or touch pro 2, and relabel the keys :)
21:26.51Spirits-Sightdcordes: which files do I use?
21:26.52NetRippercr2_, lol put hspl on it and flash a bare rom
21:26.54NetRipperbut i like it
21:26.55cr2_NetRipper: ok
21:27.01phhcr2_: captnoord doesn't agree with your RPC values :p
21:27.15cr2_phh: for which amss ?
21:27.16captnoordhehe
21:27.20phhcr2_: 5225
21:27.28captnoordmost are correct
21:27.30cr2_impossible :)
21:27.30captnoordsome are not
21:27.33captnoordhehee
21:27.34makkonenphh: so, in case you're wrong... you should get a RHOD400. :-) There's no downside. You can use it if you travel to the US... or slovenia... or china.
21:27.41captnoord[22:26] <captnoord> 0x26 = clk_regime_sec_sel_vfe_src  -> correct
21:27.47adamwmakkonen: phh is getting a tilt2, cos that's what reefermattness could get him cheap
21:27.50captnoord[22:25] <captnoord> 0x27 would be
21:27.50captnoord[22:25] <captnoord> clk_regime_sec_msm_sel_camclk
21:27.57makkonen(man is there not much of a good argument for cdma)
21:28.10phhmakkonen: there is just no cdma network around me anyway
21:28.17cr2_captnoord: don't have the second notebook now
21:28.20captnoordand clk_regime_sec_msm_get_clk_freq_khz is also correct
21:28.24captnoord0x25
21:28.25cr2_captnoord: so can't check
21:28.27captnoordk
21:28.57adamwyou generally can't roam with cdma even if you go from the u.s. to...slovenia...anyway
21:29.04cr2_NetRipper: german version has 2GB SDcard included, with the navigon software
21:29.05adamwas cdma operators won't usually authorize phones from other cdma networks
21:29.22makkonenphh: yeah, I know, but if you had a raph800 I wouldn't have to be trying to find fixes for all the ways it's different from the RAPH100... someone else would have to be finding fixes for all the ways the raph100 was different from the raph800.
21:29.32adamwer, you can roam. you can't pay the other network directly. doh.
21:29.38phhmakkonen: lol
21:29.39NetRippercr2_, i think i had 2gb included as well
21:29.45cr2_adamw: slovenia is so retarded, and uses cdma ?
21:29.53adamwcr2_: makkonen claims so
21:29.58cr2_hm
21:30.01adamwi refer all enquiries to him :)
21:30.20captnoordi'll list the rpc thingy's
21:30.23makkonensomeone from slovenia was on here a few days ago, and I think he had a cdma device. I might be misremembering.
21:30.27cr2_maybe some strange provider
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21:30.47cr2_captnoord: split between 5225, 6125 and 1550
21:30.53phhmakkonen: isn't them the ones who cry because their internet connection doesn't work ?
21:30.56captnoordk
21:30.58dcordescr2_, did you buy from vodafone?
21:30.59adamwi think china's isn't really like the cdma in the us/canada anyway, right?
21:31.22cr2_dcordes: no
21:31.31cr2_dcordes: it's tmob branded device
21:31.44cr2_NetRipper: it has tmc dll, but i don't know if it works
21:31.45makkonenI don't know. there are some people in my thread who have raph800s on china mobile.
21:31.55dcordescr2_, ebay?
21:32.09MrPippyyeah i've gotten some chinese PMs too
21:32.15cr2_NetRipper: too much spyware on the phone to check first
21:32.19adamwcr2_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CDMA2000_networks
21:32.20adamwwow, who knew
21:32.21cr2_dcordes: 7mobile
21:33.09cr2_dcordes: ebay is too risky for me :)
21:33.13makkonenwhy is my logcat littered with /data/misc/keystore: permission denied errors?
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21:33.14adamwyou too can hit such exciting destinations as...kazakhstan
21:33.19NetRippercr2_, yea i love that part
21:33.22NetRipperexploring your phone
21:33.24NetRipperand ruining it
21:33.27NetRipper:)
21:33.48cr2_adamw: lol. 450 MHz band
21:35.54cr2_NetRipper: haret .rc needs some fixes
21:36.06dcordesmickey|tv, ping
21:36.21cr2_NetRipper: this is the logon
21:36.24cr2_Detected machine Leo/QSD8xxx (Plat='PocketPC' OEM='HTC_HD2')
21:36.26cr2_CPU is Qualcomm ARM arch 7 stepping 2 running in system mode
21:36.27NetRippercr2_, but i don't want to break haret for older 320x320 devices
21:36.32NetRippercr2_, yep thats good
21:36.39cr2_NetRipper: 240x240 too
21:36.40NetRippernice huh
21:36.46NetRipperthat it detects that it's a Qualcomm
21:36.51NetRipper*boasts his ego*
21:37.03cr2_NetRipper: yes, even with the wrong OEM entry
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21:37.20NetRipperyep it reads the manufacturer id from the arm register
21:37.21NetRipper:)
21:37.57cr2_NetRipper: but the gpio number is wrong in this case
21:38.08NetRippernnnoooooooooo
21:38.09NetRipperwhich one?
21:38.13cr2_NetRipper: i get a lot of gpio spam. are these from LCD ?
21:38.23NetRipperyes, hold on
21:38.25NetRipperi have a pastebin with ignores
21:38.34NetRippermight put that in haret source
21:38.36cr2_NetRipper: 'ibit gpios ' is limited with 64
21:38.38NetRipperspamming stuff
21:38.49cr2_spamming needs to added to wiki
21:39.38cr2_NetRipper: the htc ceo said "there will be no android on hd2", i'm reading on google :)
21:40.56MrPippyuh oh, he might send assassins to take you all out ;-)
21:40.58NetRipperyea it was leaked by accident
21:41.01NetRipperoh no wait
21:41.22cr2_MrPippy: we are not working on android, so he is right :)
21:41.31NetRipperthat was the official response by htc... as some taiwan htc twitter account leaked that android might come to hd2
21:41.35NetRipper:)
21:41.50makkonenwhatever. sprint's got the supersonic coming, which is basically an android-running-hd2 (with wimax).
21:42.13cr2_makkonen: wimax is not hd2 by definition
21:42.30cr2_makkonen: nexus is even closer to hd2
21:42.51NetRipperhttp://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo_HaRET
21:42.54cr2_it's all about amss and it's fsck'd interfaces
21:42.55makkonenwell, no, not technically. but it's a 4.3" screen device, in basically the same cladding as the hd2, with a snapdragon processor.
21:42.57NetRipperive put it on there
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21:43.22cr2_NetRipper: ok, i may edit the gpio list too
21:43.54cr2_NetRipper: there is a red/green led on the front ?
21:44.16cr2_NetRipper: what are the 2 holes left from the green/red led ?
21:44.30NetRipperlight sensor
21:44.40NetRipperi only see one hole though?
21:45.08cr2_NetRipper: the reset button is located in a wrong place. for a device marketed as a wince phone, i mean :) "running in system mode"
21:45.10makkonengsm diam/raph users: your devices don't accurately report whether the phone is connected to a charger, do they?
21:45.13NetRipperhmm there might be something barely visible
21:45.25NetRipperit's probably the proximity sensor then
21:45.30cr2_NetRipper: i see 2
21:45.41NetRipperyes so then its probably light sensor + proximity sensor
21:45.42NetRipperor so..
21:45.44cr2_proximity ?
21:45.47stinebdmakkonen: er, yes
21:45.49NetRipperyes
21:45.59NetRipperit detects when you hold the phone to your head
21:46.04NetRipperor when you put it in your pocket
21:46.24makkonenstinebd: oh. cool. I thought it was everyone. so it's just cdma that needs that fixed.
21:46.26NetRipperlol don't you read tech specs before you buy a 400 euro device?
21:46.26cr2_hm. how does it work ?
21:46.27NetRipper:)
21:46.35NetRipperdon't know the inner workings
21:46.40cr2_NetRipper: of course not
21:46.40NetRipperyou're the disassemble expert;)
21:46.40dcordesoptically?
21:47.05NetRipperdcordes, i usually check what i buy on the internet, before buying it :p no need to do it optically;)
21:47.23cr2_NetRipper: i never read tech specs :)
21:47.42cr2_NetRipper: the device should be user-friendly
21:48.01cr2_NetRipper: but i still didn't find out how to enable wifi
21:48.09dcordesNetRipper, I mean the pocket/ear detector
21:48.22cr2_and see a lot of spyware too
21:48.25NetRippercr2_, slide all the way to the right (config tab) then communications
21:48.37NetRipperoh sorry, 'wireless controls'
21:48.38dcordescr2_, gps, ... ?
21:48.44cr2_NetRipper: the wifi entry is grey
21:48.50NetRippercr2_, because you're connected via usb
21:49.01cr2_dcordes: gps is probably even more complex
21:49.13cr2_NetRipper: WTF ?
21:49.15NetRipperif you disconnect usb, it's ungrayed.. but yes.. that's htc's poor judgement
21:49.20dcordescr2_, what's the spyware?
21:49.21cr2_hehe
21:49.36NetRipperhtc made more mistakes.. :)
21:49.56cr2_dcordes: sending reports to m$ and telling your location to google and whatever else.
21:50.21NetRipper(read: <cr2_> im paranoid)
21:50.22NetRipper:)
21:50.52NetRipperanyway cr2, wait till you set an alarm
21:50.57NetRipperand it goes off in the morning
21:50.59|Jason8|no
21:51.05|Jason8|That's not HTC's
21:51.07|Jason8|the wifi thing
21:51.12|Jason8|it's an activesync setting
21:51.18cr2_NetRipper: ask dcordes about requesting money from google for streetview :)
21:51.34NetRippereh?
21:51.43NetRipper|Jason8|, it worked perfectly fine on my hermes
21:51.44cr2_|Jason8|: evil microsoft decision ?
21:51.47|Jason8|eh
21:51.50|Jason8|just uncheck a box
21:51.56NetRipperah
21:52.04NetRipperhavent found the box yet then :)
21:52.07|Jason8|um
21:52.09|Jason8|it's in connection settings
21:52.11cr2_|Jason8|: what is the last USB option ?
21:52.37cr2_ethernet,usb_storage,modem, ?
21:52.44|Jason8|1sec
21:52.59|Jason8|k
21:53.07|Jason8|open up connection settings in activesync/device center
21:53.16NetRippercr2_, you have a 4th choice??
21:53.22|Jason8|check the "allow data connections on device when connected to PC"
21:53.22cr2_NetRipper: yes
21:53.27NetRippercr2_, what does it say
21:53.30dcordescr2_, I'm not sure but I think I know what you mean
21:53.34cr2_it's in german
21:54.08NetRippertranslate it ;)
21:54.19cr2_dcordes: Ratingen asks for money from google for showing it in streetview. as much as i hate this spyware company, it's odd ;)
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21:55.02|Jason8|then connect your wifi
21:55.05|Jason8|and plug the phone in
21:55.11dcordescr2_, I don't have anything to do with that.
21:55.16cr2_lol
21:55.43dcordesnot even remotely
21:55.47cr2_NetRipper: let me check. need to switch off haret first
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21:57.03cr2_NetRipper: 4th option -> "device companion. manuals and tools"
21:57.44NetRipperahhhh awesome
21:57.54NetRipperon our roms its disabled and there's a registry setting that suggests it
21:58.18NetRippermy guess is that it enables a hidden "usb stick" with your device manual on it
21:58.22NetRipper:)
21:58.22Spirits-SightOK, is it still possiable to run android off of SD card?
21:58.26Spirits-Sightkaiser?
21:58.47cr2_NetRipper: hm. one more partition ? let me check.
21:59.09NetRipperyea or maybe some directory that gets exposed
21:59.10NetRipperdunno :)
21:59.21NetRipperyou might want to dump and put that rom on xda for the cooks :)
21:59.34NetRipperunless they got it already.. havent been keeping an eye on it
22:00.13cr2_NetRipper: the manuals are on the SD
22:00.24NetRipperalright so just try the companion thing
22:00.27NetRippersee what happens
22:00.52cr2_TFAT_HIDDEN_ROOT_DIR is nounted
22:00.57cr2_s/nou/mou/
22:01.04NetRippernice :)
22:01.13cr2_Detected machine Leo/QSD8xxx (Plat='PocketPC' OEM='HTC_HD2')
22:01.15cr2_CPU is Qualcomm ARM arch 7 stepping 2 running in system mode
22:01.16cr2_err
22:01.18NetRipperlol
22:01.33cr2_sprite backup something
22:01.43cr2_was wrong paste :)
22:02.18cr2_LEO_TMO_DE_SpriteBackup_6.5.3
22:02.40Spirits-Sightcan we still install the latest on SD for kasier and also where can I find the latest info about android for kaser as androidonhtc seems to be outdated
22:02.44cr2_and SetupSpriteBackup
22:03.41cr2_NetRipper: the right partition to install linux :)
22:04.01cr2_NetRipper: 15MB only
22:04.37NetRipperlol
22:05.17cr2_maybe uboot
22:07.53mickeyldcordes: pong
22:08.25Spirits-Sightdoes anyone have the instruction for the new process for android on the kaiser? thanks for hte aissistance
22:09.01mickeyldcordes: safely back at home?
22:09.19dcordesmickeyl, yep, hope you too?
22:09.23mickeylsure
22:09.52NetRippersorry i dont Spirits-Sight.. i think there's a wiki page on the kaiser that might explain some stuff for you and get you going
22:10.02cr2_NetRipper: they say navigon is a demo version
22:10.03dcordesmickeyl, sunday was rather busy for you? didn't see you after your lecture
22:10.21mickeyldcordes: yeah, sorry, it was. i had some additional meetings and one more presentation in the embedded room
22:10.33mickeylthen i left @ 17:00 towards trainstation
22:10.39Spirits-SightNetRipper: which wiki these so may different places now
22:10.40NetRipperSpirits-Sight, like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782
22:10.48NetRipperSpirits-Sight, i'm just guessing though
22:11.06mickeyldcordes: read my blog entry?
22:11.22dcordesmickeyl, what was the other talk about? no let me check
22:11.23mickeyldcordes: i think we should try to rekickstart mobile-linux mailing list
22:11.32mickeyldcordes: OE
22:13.04cr2_NetRipper: IRQS     IRQ1: SIRC_1(63)=1 ?
22:13.32cr2_NetRipper: have you added sirc demux aka IRQ2 ?
22:13.46NetRipperno
22:13.54cr2_NetRipper: any TS touch produces SIRC_1 interrupts
22:14.01NetRipperyou're welcome to write a patch :p
22:14.08cr2_ok
22:14.18cr2_it should be easy
22:14.38cr2_the leds may be on the microP gpios
22:14.49cr2_need to check too
22:15.07NetRipperbtw t-mobile's rom had a flashlight tool embedded
22:15.13NetRipperit can regulate the brightness of the flashlight
22:15.41cr2_also microp ?
22:15.47NetRipperor voltage via amss
22:16.07NetRipperi think someone disassembled it and came to msm_clk.dll
22:16.12NetRipperso that sounds like amss
22:17.08cr2_ok
22:17.19cr2_not very important now
22:18.00dcordesmickeyl, good idea to use ML. who's that andy green guy and why does he think our projects will die?
22:18.22cr2_NetRipper: the qsd patch is not merged into uboot tree ?
22:18.25Spirits-SightNetRipper: saddly this also seems to be outdated, the date of the heading is very old and I have been following it for a while and it seem not to be talking much about the updates and so on
22:18.27mickeyldcordes: don't bother... just someone who I worked with @ openmoko who hates cross compiling
22:19.20cr2_lol
22:20.02cr2_mickeyl: he enjoys compiling on the moko phone itself ?
22:20.08tmztSpirits-Sight: there is plenty of work, get a new vogue image and current kais kernel
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22:20.35tmztmickeyl: nobody has a motorola milestone?
22:20.58cr2_tmzt: you need to ask in the US section
22:21.09tmztwhy?
22:21.15tmztmilestone is eu
22:21.21mickeylcr2_: hehe, yeah
22:21.27NetRippercr2_, which qsd patch?
22:21.31mickeylcr2_: well by now he hates Openmoko, so...
22:21.34Spirits-Sighttmzt: thats the thing in the past when it was on code.google.com I could find and access wht was needed now its on this other site I don't know where the find the latest kernel, or systems
22:21.45mickeyltmzt: hmm, i think playya in #openmoko-cdevel has one
22:21.56tmztwhy don't you ask vogue channel Spirt
22:22.16cr2_tmzt: never heard about such phonbe here
22:22.24tmztthey are very similar to Pre but the baseband interface is just muxed AT
22:22.35tmztit's the gsm version of droid/sholes
22:22.39tmztomap3 based
22:22.39cr2_NetRipper: the uboot patch
22:23.15NetRippercr2_, i'm not getting it... which qsd patch? which uboot tree? i can't merge? :)
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22:23.37cr2_NetRipper: codeaurora has an ubot patch for 8250
22:23.45NetRipperaha
22:24.26cr2_NetRipper: long time ago
22:24.26NetRipperahh right
22:24.26NetRipperso what should i do with it?
22:24.26cr2_we may patch it too, and try to boot on leo
22:24.27tmztthink it will chain?
22:24.33cr2_but i need to get a better understanding of irq/gpio et al. first
22:24.45tmztalso, it will probably need serial to be useful
22:24.46dcordesmickeyl, he prefers android over openmoko?
22:24.51cr2_tmzt: why not.
22:25.15tmztplayya does?
22:25.37tmztcr2_:it's very low level
22:25.40cr2_NetRipper: you have the decoded gpio numbers for spam ?
22:25.45tmztseems to do everything from ram init on
22:25.47NetRipperno
22:25.50NetRippermight be microp?
22:25.56tmztwhich is awesome but overkill for a chainloader
22:26.01NetRipperseems to be some bits wide though
22:26.06Spirits-Sighttmzt:  the android-vogue channel does not have any activity in side it unless I am the wrong room
22:26.09tmztseems there's a snapdragon port of lk already
22:26.19cr2_NetRipper: wifi/sd ?
22:26.28tmztNetRipper: spi?
22:26.34cr2_NetRipper: wifi/sd and lcd come to my mind
22:26.40NetRippercr2_, yep might be.. but i didnt do anything with wifi/sd, yet it spams like crazy
22:26.41cr2_tmzt: spi is 3 pins
22:26.54tmzthow wide?
22:26.58cr2_tmzt: and they are known
22:27.10dcordesmickeyl, by the way, who were the guys handing handing you business cards right after the freesmartphone.org talk?
22:27.12cr2_17  0x11 0 1c4    SPI_CLK
22:27.12tmzthmm, I meant the width of the writes actually
22:27.14cr2_18 0x12 0 1c4 SPI_MOSI
22:27.15cr2_19 0x13 (SPI_MISO) 35MM_KEY_INT_SHUTDOWN
22:27.26tmztwide spi usually indicates hardware rather than client on an soc
22:27.34tmzt16bit for instance
22:27.54cr2_in1-25(313)
22:28.05cr2_in1-15(303)
22:28.48cr2_NetRipper: these are probably the kpad pins
22:29.04cr2_NetRipper: you've killed the bit number column in Leo_GPIO
22:29.18mickeyldcordes: CTO of LiMo
22:29.20mickeylquite amazing
22:29.28mickeyllets hope he contacts me
22:29.39polyrhythmichey linux dudes, quick question
22:29.54polyrhythmicI'm trying to set permissions on a file on my desktop, but it won't take
22:30.01polyrhythmicI can't chown or chmod them, but I can delete them
22:30.04cr2_in5-10(426)
22:30.15polyrhythmicany guesses why
22:30.18cr2_in6-2(450)
22:30.21polyrhythmic? I've never seen this before
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22:31.15cr2_NetRipper: will you add the bit numbers to wiki ?
22:31.31NetRippercr2_, that's just because the bit numbers aren't aligned with the haret bit numbers... as the gpio banks are not in perfect order
22:31.36NetRipperthere's some bytes betweent hem
22:31.43NetRippersame thing with raphael :p
22:31.55NetRipperharet seems to count from the first bank up
22:32.01NetRipperinstead of each bank seperately or so
22:32.08cr2_NetRipper: hm. strange
22:32.23cr2_the numbers are from bank 5 and 6
22:32.32cr2_the bit numbers should be ok
22:32.42cr2_the () number is not that interesting
22:33.03cr2_ok, i'll add them for 5 and 6
22:34.11cr2_NetRipper: most are marked mfg test, so we know their alt values
22:34.15mickeyldcordes cr2_ did you decide on an attack strategy wrt. revitalizing mobile-linux?
22:34.18cr2_in theory :)
22:35.30cr2_mickeyl: i'll write the portable gpio_alt, dex, vreg and clk driver first. it will cover msm7x01A and qsd8x50
22:36.01mickeylawesome plan
22:36.06mickeylmsm7x01A will cover which devices exact?
22:36.07cr2_mickeyl: nothing needs to be tested here anymore, it's just pure kernel programming
22:36.33cr2_mickeyl: g1/adp1 and the raph/diam/blac/topa/rhod
22:36.44mickeylcr2_: splendid, good set
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22:42.58dcordesmickeyl, I don't know. maybe inject epinephrine locally :) we could put a link on htc-linux.org
22:43.56mickeylheh
22:44.00mickeylya, worth a try
22:44.41mickeylif there are any GNU/Linux interested ones, it might help to post on xda as well... if you think it's worth it
22:45.48dcordeswhy not
22:46.21dcordesthe LiMo persons, how can they be of help?
22:46.47mickeylLiMo is huge, they have $$$.
22:46.59mickeylapparantly they're struggling with their middleware, perhaps that keeps them interested in ours
22:47.08mickeylbut i have yet to get an answer to my mail
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22:48.50dcordesmickeyl, they have "limo economic analysis.pdf"
22:49.24mickeylthat as well
22:50.04dcordesit's actually interesting
22:50.35cr2_NetRipper: add them to haret, looks like lcd-related gpios
22:51.44NetRippergood idea, you're very welcome to make a patch ;)
22:52.16Markinuscr2_: hi, do you have I Idea what the problem is when the device isn't waking up on call from sleep (pm 0 and 2 tested)?? Is there a irq comming?
22:52.18NetRipperi won't be working on leo at least till this weekend
22:52.31dcordesmickeyl, wondering about ? in "It would cost $?M to develop htc-linux from scratch"
22:53.39Markinuscr2_: we can call to the device, but it's quite, no message is comming, and nothing of a missed call
22:53.50makkonenanyone here played with dropbear on android?
22:56.46captnoordhmmmm
22:56.56captnoordmade me a script do dump all the rpc thingies
22:57.01captnoordloves ida
22:57.09captnoordMessage( GetFunctionName( x ) + "    " + GetRegisterValue(x, "R1") + "    " + GetRegisterValue(x, "R2") + "    " + GetRegisterValue(x, "R3") + "\n");
22:57.10captnoord:D
22:58.58*** join/#htc-linux M_CC (~chatzilla@ANice-257-1-101-193.w92-143.abo.wanadoo.fr)
23:01.19captnoordcr2_: wanne have it?
23:01.24captnoordor should I add it to the wiki
23:04.15dcordeswiki is always good
23:09.16*** join/#htc-linux Vito89 (~quassel@gw.loccal.net)
23:09.45cr2_Markinus: no idea
23:10.15*** join/#htc-linux jumoit (~samuel@121.77.87.145)
23:10.45cr2_NetRipper: 48  0x30    5 I? periodic
23:10.53cr2_NetRipper: something new
23:11.05NetRipperperiodic?
23:11.20cr2_yes
23:11.33cr2_119.219    GPIOS     out2: out2-14(78)=1
23:11.35cr2_119.219    GPIOS      in2: in2-14(334)=1
23:11.38NetRipperas in? timer?
23:11.38cr2_this is bt power. ok
23:12.00cr2_some external signal with about 23 sec period
23:12.07NetRipper23 sec hm ok
23:13.20cr2_NetRipper: i'll wait a bit more
23:13.33captnoordis going to messup the wiki... kinda...
23:13.57captnoordmake a 5225 section for the rpc
23:14.18captnoordnow to make my script generate wiki output
23:15.16cr2_NetRipper: some strange external signal though
23:15.48cr2_NetRipper: no phone related gpios. that's good
23:16.03NetRipperso no watchdog or so?:P
23:16.15NetRipper"we'll teach those bastards to boot linux on hd2"
23:16.20cr2_NetRipper: all the buttons are matrix keypad
23:16.27cr2_LOL
23:16.44NetRipperah ok that makes it easy
23:16.45cr2_should be easy to write a driver
23:16.47cr2_ok
23:17.01tmztNetRipper: what did they do?
23:17.11cr2_can't check wifi, because of the usb
23:17.41NetRippertmzt, nothing.. i was speculating
23:17.41NetRipper:)
23:18.05cr2_tmzt: they said 'no linux on hd2'
23:18.22captnoordcall            prog            proc           msg
23:18.22captnoordgsdi_get_sim_capabilities                                                  0x30000016    #4    #0
23:18.22captnoordgsdi2_enable_fdn                                                           0x30000016    #0x10    #0
23:18.22captnoordgsdi2_disable_fdn                                                          0x30000016    #0x11    #0
23:18.47cr2_captnoord: is it used in real life (tm) ?
23:18.55captnoordyup
23:18.56cr2_captnoord: or just the api_*.dll dump ?
23:19.00cr2_ok
23:19.01captnoordhehe
23:19.07captnoordits api dump
23:19.08captnoord+
23:19.11cr2_:)
23:19.12captnoordreal life check
23:19.20captnoordI read the value's of the registers
23:19.45captnoordi'll send you the script when i'm done with the wiki
23:19.48cr2_ok
23:20.57cr2_omg. sd gpio spam too
23:21.51cr2_NetRipper: evil
23:21.55cr2_HaRET(172)# ibit irqs 339 340 341 342 343 344
23:21.56cr2_Bit 339 is past max of 63
23:22.16cr2_argh
23:22.37NetRippereh?
23:23.01cr2_oh. spammed by the cam too
23:23.10cr2_bank0
23:23.56cr2_so it's the same as nexus
23:24.36*** join/#htc-linux The_Eccentric (~ablack7@unaffiliated/theeccentric/x-737283)
23:26.15cr2_NetRipper: can i assign a serial port to gps ?
23:30.29NetRipperuh im not sure what you mean
23:31.01cr2_how do i configure gps ?
23:33.44tmztsim access is direct?
23:33.49tmztuh, on ce?
23:34.06tmztyou can use the proxy or your program can access the gps port directly
23:34.54tmztif those irq bits are worng it's probably something not defined correctly in haret
23:34.57tmztlike the muxer
23:35.01tmztdemuxer
23:42.50NetRippercr2_, yes, com4 = gps
23:44.45cr2_NetRipper: ibit gpios 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271
23:44.49cr2_NetRipper: for cam
23:45.05cr2_ibit gpios 339 340 341 342 343 344
23:45.09cr2_for SD
23:46.32NetRipperalright
23:46.36NetRipperput it on wiki if you would pls :)
23:49.34cr2_7 remappings of dex. hm
23:50.07cr2_HaRET(212)# addlist mmutrace 0xae800000 0x100000
23:50.12cr2_crashes wince ;)
23:50.53tmztdcordes: you in contact with Marco from #oe ?
23:53.24IceBonehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-8PBx7isoM
23:54.44NetRippercr2_, lol, not just haret?
23:55.19cr2_NetRipper: wi after that crashes the machine
23:55.34captnoordcr2_: http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=MSM_RPC
23:56.38cr2_NetRipper: com1 com2 BT
23:56.42cr2_captnoord: looking
23:57.30cr2_NetRipper: com9 ?
23:57.39cr2_NetRipper: no gps on com4
23:58.05NetRipperits on com4 for me
23:58.13cr2_ts sucks ;)
23:58.15NetRipperarg this rom im using is buggy
23:58.19captnoordhehe
23:58.31NetRipperts?
23:58.46cr2_no stylus ;)
23:58.46captnoordI think he is scrolling down on the wiki
23:59.00NetRipperah
23:59.03NetRippertouchscreen
23:59.28captnoord<PROTECTED>
23:59.29captnoord0x3000000E 0x09, 0xD10CA2DA nv_cmd_remote
23:59.34captnoordthese are the only wierd ones
23:59.44captnoordand I don't know what
23:59.45captnoord0xD10CA2DA
23:59.45captnoordis
23:59.51captnoordI guess its a address I know

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