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00:02.40 | Unholy | hey guys |
00:05.12 | makkonen | howdy |
00:08.03 | Unholy | any of you know c++? i need help with a home work, having a hard time finding a tutorial that is clear enof to help me |
00:13.15 | MrPippy | yeah some c++, whats the question |
00:14.32 | Unholy | ok i have some variables declared, each of them has cout for user imput, what i want to do is tell the progam to multyply or divide the 2 imputs fro my variables |
00:14.38 | Unholy | did that come out right? |
00:14.54 | Olipro | variablea * variableb |
00:15.03 | Olipro | do you need to write it to console? |
00:15.05 | Olipro | printf! |
00:15.25 | Unholy | yes i just need to know the code to do that |
00:15.31 | Paul_away | that's C . he needs C++ |
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00:15.41 | Olipro | how is that C? |
00:16.04 | Olipro | it will compile as C++ or C |
00:16.15 | Paul_away | where is some C++ class around :) |
00:16.32 | Olipro | Unholy: go Google scanf and printf |
00:16.36 | Olipro | knock yourself out laddo |
00:16.40 | Unholy | cout << "email" << email << endl; something like this to print out the result |
00:16.58 | Unholy | huh? |
00:17.09 | Olipro | well, you could sprintf it to a char array and the pipe that to cout |
00:17.14 | Olipro | but printf would be simpler |
00:17.33 | Olipro | int numberA, numberB; |
00:17.51 | Olipro | print("Enter a number bitch\n"); |
00:18.00 | Unholy | lol |
00:18.05 | Olipro | scanf("%d", numberA); |
00:18.12 | Olipro | print("and another, bitch"); |
00:18.15 | Unholy | wait |
00:18.20 | Olipro | scanf("%d", numberB); |
00:18.23 | Unholy | dont tell the hole program dude |
00:18.26 | Unholy | i want to make it |
00:18.30 | Unholy | XD |
00:18.34 | Olipro | then go google scanf and printf like I told you |
00:18.35 | Olipro | jesus |
00:18.40 | Olipro | if you want to look REALLY clever |
00:18.43 | Olipro | you can use sprintf |
00:18.44 | Unholy | i did 1 sec |
00:18.47 | Olipro | and allocate a char* pointer using new |
00:19.03 | Olipro | char *stringPtr = new char[50]; |
00:19.20 | Olipro | 50 means you'll allocate 50 bytes for char storage |
00:19.31 | Unholy | whats "%d" for? |
00:19.42 | Olipro | GOOGLE SCANF AND YOU'LL FUCKING FIND OUT |
00:19.50 | Unholy | ah k |
00:19.55 | Unholy | no need to use caps |
00:20.02 | MrPippy | c++ way is cin and cout instead of scanf and printf |
00:20.11 | Olipro | no need to make me repeat myself numerous bloody times |
00:20.25 | Olipro | MrPippy: says who? |
00:21.15 | Olipro | what sort of moron would deliberately use cin and then pass it to sscanf rather than call scanf right off the bat |
00:21.58 | Olipro | just because c++ has cin doesn't mean it's automatically the best method of accessing stdin |
00:22.11 | Olipro | it really does depend on what you're doing |
00:23.00 | Unholy | cin and scanf same thing right |
00:23.15 | Olipro | no |
00:23.17 | Olipro | scanf is a function |
00:23.26 | Olipro | cin is something you pipe |
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00:24.12 | Unholy | hmm im getting realy confused, im taking this class in spanish, terminology not the same |
00:24.33 | Olipro | C++ in spanish |
00:24.34 | Olipro | jesus |
00:24.41 | Unholy | no dude |
00:24.56 | Unholy | nvm |
00:25.01 | Olipro | or rather |
00:25.07 | Olipro | madre de la dios |
00:25.22 | Olipro | anyway |
00:25.33 | Olipro | cin/cout are objets of the istream class |
00:25.45 | Olipro | whereas scanf and printf are functions |
00:25.49 | Unholy | yea i have to do it woth iostram |
00:25.54 | Unholy | stream* |
00:26.03 | Olipro | you have to use <iostream> |
00:26.08 | Unholy | yes |
00:26.17 | Olipro | then there's no problem with using scanf and printf |
00:26.26 | Unholy | but il get conffused |
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00:26.36 | Olipro | ok then |
00:26.37 | Olipro | use cin |
00:26.39 | Olipro | and use sscanf |
00:26.45 | Olipro | you're not getting out of this either way |
00:27.06 | Unholy | witch is the simplest? |
00:27.28 | Olipro | scanf and printf because it saves you having to create additional variables to save the input/output strings into |
00:27.38 | Unholy | olipro mind if i pm you so we dont flood this with c++ stuff |
00:27.44 | Olipro | I bet you don't even understand pointers |
00:27.50 | Unholy | probly XD |
00:28.01 | Olipro | what is a pointer? |
00:28.04 | Olipro | for example |
00:28.25 | Olipro | char *myPointer = "Hello"; |
00:28.42 | Olipro | do you understand why that variable is a pointer? |
00:29.01 | Olipro | a pointer points to a number, that number is a RAM memory address |
00:29.10 | Olipro | myPointer's value might be 0x12230 |
00:29.22 | Olipro | and, if we were to look at address 0x12230 in our computer's RAM |
00:29.25 | Olipro | we would see the letter H |
00:29.39 | Olipro | and if we look at the next byte, we see an e |
00:30.12 | Unholy | i think thats like to advance for me right now 0o |
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00:31.31 | Olipro | pointers are pretty fundamental to C and C++ |
00:31.38 | Olipro | so I suggest you get it into your head boy |
00:31.53 | Olipro | especially because bad things happen if you declare a pointer and don't allocate it |
00:32.01 | Olipro | for example |
00:32.09 | Olipro | char *myPointer; |
00:32.17 | Olipro | strcpy(myPointer, "Hello"); |
00:32.41 | Olipro | that'll cause big problems because myPointer will very probably not point to a valid RAM address |
00:32.54 | Olipro | so strcpy will try to write RAM that doesn't exist |
00:32.58 | Olipro | and the computer won't like that |
00:33.02 | Olipro | and your program will crash |
00:33.04 | Unholy | hmm |
00:33.11 | MethoS- | Unholy: i honestly suggest you to use std::string std::cin and std::cout, if you to learn c++ |
00:33.22 | MethoS- | *if you try to learn c++ |
00:33.50 | Olipro | ah yes, std::string, that makes life easy |
00:33.53 | Olipro | it does everything for yoy |
00:33.55 | Olipro | *you |
00:33.58 | MethoS- | right |
00:34.19 | Unholy | i am , im like my 3 day of this class |
00:34.21 | Olipro | although you can still declare a pointer to an std::string |
00:34.24 | Olipro | so... |
00:35.02 | MethoS- | pointers are maybe a bit to early to deal with after day three |
00:35.31 | Unholy | so if i want to scan the variable in cout that the user input, i have to use scanf? |
00:35.50 | Unholy | scanf "%d", int |
00:35.56 | Unholy | ; |
00:35.59 | Olipro | no |
00:36.02 | Olipro | you have to use sscanf |
00:36.08 | Olipro | you cin to a variable |
00:36.13 | Olipro | then you pass the string to sscanf |
00:36.32 | Unholy | so i ned the cin before sscanf? |
00:36.39 | Unholy | need* |
00:36.58 | Olipro | actually nope, cin can write to an integer just fine |
00:37.10 | Olipro | although your program will do a poo if someone doesn't enter a number |
00:37.21 | Olipro | int numberA; |
00:37.25 | Olipro | cin >> numberA; |
00:37.27 | Unholy | ok then cin "%d", int; ? |
00:37.52 | Olipro | no |
00:37.54 | Olipro | I just told you |
00:37.59 | Olipro | cin >> numberA; |
00:38.08 | Unholy | ok i got that |
00:38.11 | Unholy | i had that before |
00:38.23 | Olipro | and cin >> numberB |
00:38.28 | Olipro | then |
00:38.35 | Unholy | what i want is the program to for example multyply numbera and numberb |
00:38.48 | Olipro | cout << "A times B = " << (numberA * numberB); |
00:39.20 | Olipro | cout << "A over B = " << (numberA / numberB); |
00:40.29 | Unholy | but before that how i have to cout the number a and b values |
00:40.42 | Unholy | from the user imput |
00:41.16 | MethoS- | cout is for output |
00:41.44 | Unholy | cin then |
00:41.59 | Olipro | int numberA, numberB; |
00:42.04 | Unholy | cout << "Entre el nombre de la persona: " ; |
00:42.04 | Unholy | cin >> nombre ; |
00:42.05 | MethoS- | [01:37:25] <Olipro> cin >> numberA; |
00:42.09 | Olipro | cout << "gimme a goddamn number"; |
00:42.15 | Olipro | cin >> numberA; |
00:42.23 | Olipro | cout << "well done, now gimme another fucking number"; |
00:42.28 | Olipro | cin >> numberB; |
00:42.33 | Olipro | cout << "A times B = " << (numberA * numberB); |
00:42.36 | Olipro | cout << "A over B = " << (numberA / numberB); |
00:42.46 | MethoS- | return 0; |
00:42.48 | MethoS- | } |
00:42.50 | MethoS- | :D |
00:42.54 | Unholy | ah ok |
00:42.55 | Olipro | unless your main function is void |
00:43.03 | MethoS- | which would be C |
00:43.04 | MethoS- | :D |
00:43.10 | Olipro | maaaaaybe |
00:43.11 | Unholy | i got that |
00:44.21 | MethoS- | void main() |
00:44.22 | MethoS- | { |
00:44.24 | MethoS- | } |
00:44.25 | Unholy | typing the program let me see if can do it without looking to much |
00:44.26 | Unholy | XD |
00:44.27 | MethoS- | gcc compiles it |
00:44.31 | MethoS- | c++ doesn't |
00:44.38 | MethoS- | main.c:1: error: '::main' must return 'int' |
00:45.08 | MethoS- | Olipro: so, void main() is definetly C |
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00:45.10 | Olipro | you and your primitive linux compilers |
00:45.28 | MethoS- | which one do you use? |
00:45.29 | Olipro | my superior MS compiler can do void main and zero sized arrays |
00:45.42 | Olipro | (note, I'm joking) |
00:45.44 | MethoS- | my c compiler takes it as well |
00:45.51 | MethoS- | only the c++ doens't |
00:45.57 | MethoS- | ->no problems |
00:46.01 | MethoS- | :PP |
00:47.12 | Unholy | olipro can i have your msn or email? |
00:47.16 | Unholy | for future questions |
00:47.19 | Unholy | XD |
00:47.32 | Olipro | have I have ten quid? |
00:47.36 | Olipro | *can I have ten quid |
00:47.42 | Olipro | how do I shot web? |
00:47.48 | stinebd | how is babby formed? |
00:47.50 | Olipro | I accidentally the whole bottle |
00:51.18 | Unholy | olipro can separate the procces with // procces? you know to make look cleaner |
00:51.32 | Olipro | / is for comments |
00:51.40 | Olipro | stupid IRC |
00:51.49 | Olipro | // is for comments |
00:51.58 | Unholy | i know under that i would cout theprocces |
00:52.01 | Olipro | anything you write after // will be completely ignored by the compiler |
00:52.08 | Unholy | oh |
00:52.12 | Unholy | then i cant |
00:52.25 | Olipro | the only purpose of comments is for humans to get some information on what you're doing |
00:52.36 | Olipro | /here we cout the information |
00:52.40 | Olipro | *// |
00:52.55 | Olipro | / only applies to a single line |
00:53.01 | Unholy | i see |
00:53.08 | Olipro | <PROTECTED> |
00:53.13 | Olipro | */ ends it |
00:53.37 | Olipro | if you want to make it look cleaner, do whatever you like |
00:53.57 | Olipro | you can stick stuff on newlines if you want |
00:54.03 | Olipro | so long as the ; is in the right place it's fine |
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00:56.42 | Unholy | and if i want to print that information to the console to like say, count "sum result ": ; to show me the result of the sum or the multyplication |
00:57.28 | Olipro | well, if you were writing sums on paper |
00:57.32 | Olipro | you'd use + wouldn't you |
00:57.33 | Olipro | so |
00:57.36 | Olipro | what do you think C++ uses |
00:57.47 | Olipro | or pretty much any computer language for that matter |
01:00.12 | Unholy | nvm the it prints the result nice |
01:00.14 | Unholy | it worked |
01:00.15 | Unholy | i love you |
01:01.52 | Unholy | holy shit this is so nice |
01:02.47 | Olipro | congratulations on making a poor man's calculator |
01:03.01 | Unholy | jajaja |
01:03.08 | Unholy | erm ups its hahaha |
01:03.32 | Olipro | I could write that shit in assembler |
01:03.38 | Olipro | because I'm fucking hardcore |
01:03.40 | Olipro | HARDCORE |
01:09.48 | Unholy | olimpro what if i want to be creative and add like a sort of wait time before the result, something like wait 1.0ms |
01:15.55 | Unholy | olipro my masta were you go |
01:17.23 | Olipro | call sleep |
01:17.28 | Olipro | sleep(100); |
01:17.30 | Olipro | that's 100 ms |
01:17.36 | Olipro | 1000ms is 1 second |
01:18.35 | Unholy | count "plz wait:" ; |
01:18.35 | Unholy | sleep(1000); |
01:18.38 | Unholy | like that? |
01:24.01 | Unholy | olipro compler says sleep is not a valid identifier |
01:24.11 | Unholy | compiler. |
01:27.51 | makkonen | MrPippy: do you have wifi working in the latest kernel? I hear something happened with the wireless module, but I'm not seeing what exactly. |
01:30.26 | MrPippy | i haven't tried it lately but yeah, it should be working |
01:31.15 | MrPippy | i haven't tried the latest xdandroid though, maybe thats the problem |
01:32.50 | MrPippy | ohhh...latest xdandroid pulls calibration from nand instead of using a stock one |
01:32.59 | MrPippy | if they aren't using the right offset, its not gonna work |
01:33.54 | makkonen | ah |
01:34.13 | MrPippy | i know the offset for diam500, hopefully its the same for raph800 |
01:34.14 | makkonen | so it's clearly not the right offset. how do I determine it? |
01:34.33 | makkonen | and where does it go? I saw a few things changed in the rootfs. |
01:36.05 | MrPippy | yeah i'm grabbing it now to see how they did it, the commands i use to get the cal are at http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=WL1251 |
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01:36.54 | MrPippy | found it by dumping nand and searching for the header--in my nand it appeared twice, but the 2nd one is the right one |
01:37.04 | makkonen | ah |
01:39.07 | makkonen | yeah, it's in init.etc/wifi/loadit |
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01:39.58 | makkonen | unfortunately, it uses the same offsets you do. |
01:41.26 | MrPippy | really? weird, someone in my thread is having a problem |
01:42.15 | mcdull | Hi, |
01:42.26 | bzo | I can't get wifi to start on my diam500, using the latest xdandroid with the included kernel and modules |
01:43.07 | MrPippy | interesting |
01:43.21 | MrPippy | is it working for other devices (like diam100)? |
01:43.36 | bzo | presumably, since that is what phh is using :) |
01:43.44 | makkonen | trying to run the commands from the wifi-calibration script from an adb shell, insmod /lib/modules/mtdchar.ko fails to load saying 'invalid module format'... |
01:44.03 | bzo | let me fire up adb and see if there is anything in the log |
01:44.49 | MrPippy | ohh...now we have to include the mtd modules with our kernels? |
01:44.51 | makkonen | yeah, just failing because the module is the wrong version. |
01:44.55 | makkonen | yup. |
01:48.55 | bzo | aw shoot, adb is not working for me with this kernel. I think phh enabled usb massstorage in his kernel which breaks adb for the diam500 |
01:49.18 | bzo | but since I'm running with the included kernel and modules, you would think I couldn't have the mtd module problem |
01:50.45 | makkonen | can't you just echo 2 > /sys/devices/platform/msm_hsusb/usb_function_switch |
01:51.20 | makkonen | well, maybe glemsom hasn't been updated about the change, and his system isn't building the mtd modules yet either. |
01:51.27 | bzo | maybe for windows adb, but linux adb expects to see a composite device |
01:51.31 | makkonen | ah |
01:51.57 | makkonen | last time I enabled mass storage, it killed data and ground the whole thing to a halt, so I haven't bothered with it in a while. :-) |
01:54.24 | bzo | there does seem to be some unexplained conflict... though it may be less dramatic now |
01:56.14 | makkonen | even on the vogue they don't have simultaneous mass storage and adb working. that was disappointing. |
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01:57.03 | bzo | I guess it must be another one of these cdma quirks |
01:57.54 | bzo | speaking of which, I sure wish we could figure out the mic init problem |
01:58.06 | Unholy | olipro you here? |
01:59.19 | MrPippy | yeah, mic and battery status are the biggest features left i think |
01:59.50 | bzo | MrPippy: is the mic controlled directly by the MSM, or is there another chip/driver? |
02:00.13 | makkonen | did you ever take battery status from my tree? it's... better than nothing. that's about all the praise I'll give it. |
02:01.02 | MrPippy | yeah the mic is all msm, more arm11/arm9 rpc fun |
02:01.14 | bzo | makkonen: I was running with your battery tweaks for a while. Huge improvement over the constant 5% status. At least you had some hint as to the charge state |
02:01.27 | Olipro | yes Unholy |
02:01.28 | MrPippy | haven't tried your battery status but i've got it open, should really try it |
02:02.20 | Unholy | that sleep identifier dosent work, compiler complains its not valid, i also found another one voidsleep() is that the same? |
02:02.24 | makkonen | bzo: yeah. it's not good, but it's good enough that I don't really have to think about it all the time. |
02:02.45 | MrPippy | does charge status show up right? |
02:03.02 | makkonen | as in whether the charger is connected? no. |
02:03.12 | bzo | MrPippy: I was thinking about what we chatted about the other day about the heroc differences. They must have crammed everything into the a9 firmware they weren't allowed to open source, and just exposed a single rpc call to the a11 |
02:03.44 | makkonen | I don't really understand what's up with that. I'm pretty sure all the fake_charger stuff has been disabled at this point, but it's still wrong. I haven't looked at it at all closely, though. |
02:04.05 | MrPippy | yup thats what they did, shove everything into amss and you don't have to open source it |
02:04.33 | bzo | wonder why the battery stuff is proprietary though? |
02:04.47 | MrPippy | yeah the charger status should be easy, its a gpio and we know what it is |
02:05.17 | Unholy | olipro can pm me your msn? |
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02:06.15 | MrPippy | battery status isn't really proprietary, we have access to the voltage/current/temp values, but they're uncorrected raw values |
02:06.43 | bzo | I mean the battery calculations |
02:07.03 | bzo | perhaps they are using someone else's library |
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02:15.44 | mcdull | confirmed that 3D completely broke in Blackstone. |
02:16.34 | mcdull | fun thing is that, the phone "restart" inself when I try a 3d game. So acutally the phone could be restarted by some means. |
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02:36.06 | Unholy | anyone here know c++? i need help with colotext() |
02:36.59 | MrPippy | never heard of that function |
02:38.10 | Unholy | colortext sorry |
02:39.28 | MrPippy | still never heard of that, is it windows or linux? |
02:39.28 | Unholy | i just want to color a the comment of one of my cout |
02:39.35 | Unholy | windows heh |
02:39.41 | tmzt | ? |
02:39.41 | Unholy | its a homework |
02:39.48 | tmzt | color? |
02:39.59 | Unholy | yea change the color fo the font |
02:40.04 | Unholy | from black to w/e i want |
02:40.05 | Unholy | XD |
02:40.09 | tmzt | ansi? |
02:40.10 | Unholy | of* |
02:40.30 | tmzt | I bet your overloading an operator and that's the homework |
02:40.41 | Unholy | 0o |
02:40.42 | Unholy | lol |
02:41.05 | Unholy | nah i just finished this calculating program witch olipro helpd me with |
02:41.17 | Unholy | i want to color a comment |
02:41.22 | Unholy | il shwo what imean |
02:41.25 | Unholy | show* |
02:42.02 | Unholy | cout << "Please Wait While Your Problem is Processing: " << endl; you see the commented are i want it to come ot in the console green not blue |
02:42.07 | Unholy | i mean black* |
02:42.08 | Unholy | omfg typos |
02:42.23 | Unholy | area* |
03:26.49 | makkonen | ok, built the mtd modules... inserted the mtd modules... mknod'ed the mtd0ro device... but when I dd from it, I get ENODEV |
03:28.31 | adamw | makkonen: i used the regular (i.e. not read-only node), worked for me... |
03:28.49 | MrPippy | i think the ro device is provided by mtdblock_ro, is that inserted? |
03:28.49 | makkonen | scary. |
03:29.02 | adamw | makkonen: i never liked my phone that much anyhow :P |
03:29.03 | makkonen | ah. that's the problem. |
03:29.43 | makkonen | hmm. device or resource busy. |
03:30.02 | adamw | unload the modules and just reload the ones you need? |
03:30.07 | adamw | (and remove the device node you created) |
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03:30.35 | makkonen | it'd be cool if depmod worked here. |
03:30.43 | makkonen | it'd also be cool if rmmod worked here. |
03:32.17 | adamw | oh yes I forgot that. |
03:32.28 | adamw | modinfo would also be handy. :P |
03:32.33 | adamw | though at least you can run that on your build system. |
03:32.37 | adamw | (to figure out the deps) |
03:32.57 | makkonen | fortunately pushing the stylus in the bottom of the phone works. that unloads the modules. |
03:33.25 | adamw | along with some other small side effects i guess |
03:34.01 | makkonen | turning on animations sort of makes the phone feel faster. stupid brain, getting all confused by shiny things. |
03:35.24 | makkonen | ok. guess I'm just going to add all these insmod commands to the rootfs script. see what happens. |
03:38.19 | makkonen | wait, the script has rmmod in it. does it work at some point, and then break when android comes up? or is this script just overly optimistic? |
03:43.08 | MrPippy | i think phh was confident that android wouldn't mess with nand |
03:43.30 | MrPippy | but i don't know...it probably wouldn't be hard to write and compile a rmmod replacement that actually works |
03:44.57 | makkonen | so before this change, was every android raph/diam/topa/rhod reporting the same mac address? |
03:45.17 | MrPippy | yeah |
03:45.42 | makkonen | cute. |
03:47.02 | makkonen | hm... I'm also reporting 102392 B of swap now. maybe that should be changed in eclair.user.conf |
03:47.14 | makkonen | although... everything seems to be running fine. |
03:47.22 | makkonen | Another thing I don't understand. |
03:54.15 | makkonen | all modules inserted successfully, still ENODEV. is the non-readonly device on a different minor number for mknod? |
03:55.41 | makkonen | 0 vs 1, looks like. |
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04:06.37 | makkonen | mtd0, also ENODEV |
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08:34.47 | MrPippy | does the current xdandroid wifi loadit script work for gsm (is the calibration offset in nand right)? |
08:36.01 | makkonen | how come no one's been here to answer that question today? |
08:36.09 | makkonen | have we been ditched by the community? |
08:37.08 | makkonen | do you have it working on your side? |
08:37.20 | MrPippy | diam500 and raph800 need a different offset (skip=4048 instead of skip=4736) |
08:37.37 | MrPippy | haven't tried it yet, but its the commands i used months ago, so it should work |
08:38.04 | makkonen | I just had trouble accessing the mtd device. Couldn't even get to the point where that would've failed. |
08:38.28 | MrPippy | worked for me, i just put mtdchar.ko into the modules tarball |
08:38.50 | MrPippy | the calibration was just wince garbage though |
08:39.02 | makkonen | huh |
08:39.14 | makkonen | don't know what's going on on mine, then. |
08:39.35 | makkonen | you just let the regular script run from the rootfs? |
08:39.45 | MrPippy | yeah didn't modify it |
08:39.47 | MrPippy | it wasn't able to remove mtdchar though, i still don't think rmmod is working |
08:40.40 | makkonen | I don't see what's different between my build and yours that would cause mine to report no device. |
08:41.05 | MrPippy | you have the msm nand built in? |
08:41.36 | makkonen | maybe I missed it. |
08:41.40 | makkonen | that would certainly explain it. |
08:42.30 | MrPippy | CONFIG_MTD_MSM_NAND=y |
08:43.10 | MrPippy | the driver does have a hardcoded list of flash chips (256MB and 512MB ones), its possible the raph800 one isn't listed |
08:43.18 | makkonen | I've got it as a module for some reason. which I assume I'm failing to insert. |
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08:43.44 | MrPippy | yeah just build it in |
08:44.07 | makkonen | hmm. depends on something that's a module, blah blah blah |
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08:44.33 | MrPippy | CONFIG_MTD=y also |
08:47.08 | MrPippy | nice i changed loadit and it worked |
08:48.56 | MrPippy | argh i don't want to have to post a rootfs on my forum thread, the file uploader never works with big files |
08:49.26 | makkonen | xda-devs seems pretty shaky. |
08:49.52 | makkonen | not a great sign when you click a link and don't really ever trust it to load. |
08:54.28 | makkonen | I've just started uploading complete packages with dropbox. Hoping to eliminate some of the more aggressively stupid user error. |
08:55.04 | MrPippy | maybe loadit can just grep cpuinfo for "CDMA" and then use 4048 |
08:56.38 | MrPippy | hehe i kinda want to get out of the kernel-uploading business altogether, i only have a few out-of-tree patches that i should really push anyway |
08:58.19 | makkonen | yeah. seems like all the raph800/diam500 stuff that matters is in the mainline linux-msm repo. |
08:58.45 | MrPippy | i've thought about starting a thread on ppcgeeks (since there's so much more cdma traffic there) but i don't want to deal with the users |
08:59.37 | makkonen | yeah. I was just thinking about it. there's a lot of hassle, and really no benefit. you get people to find bugs, I guess. |
09:00.13 | makkonen | and you get lauded. But that's not really worth much. |
09:05.19 | MrPippy | hehe maybe i'll just make a thread with a link to your thread |
09:06.46 | makkonen | you spend your time actually poring over patches and improving the code. I spend my time responding to idiots. |
09:07.17 | makkonen | hmm. something still failed on my end. |
09:09.59 | makkonen | created wifi-calibration file, though. |
09:11.31 | makkonen | ...and it is entirely null bytes? |
09:13.53 | makkonen | oh, I reverted the skip= value change. wtg, me. |
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09:50.37 | lilsnoop | Anyone alive? |
09:50.56 | makkonen | only the truly foolish. |
09:51.53 | lilsnoop | Yeah me too, loving android on my touch pro/fuze |
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09:52.37 | makkonen | when it functions, it's quite nice. |
09:54.28 | lilsnoop | Yes that is true, I'm running the 2/4 build and it is quite stable...still love it more than win mo on it |
09:56.07 | lilsnoop | I wonder how revolutionary win mo 7 is going to be, haha |
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10:09.47 | makkonen | don't know. there's a log at http://irclog.netripper.com/?chan=htc-linux |
10:09.55 | Paul_Ishenin | thanks |
10:10.01 | Paul_Ishenin | found in the topic. |
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12:06.11 | Captnoord | hmmm why always when I found something interesting I can't test it.... |
12:06.12 | Captnoord | bleh |
12:06.16 | Captnoord | hate beeing on windows |
12:06.31 | Captnoord | maybe found why 3d shit isn't working out of the box |
12:06.39 | Captnoord | only when you run a 3d app before booting |
12:07.31 | Captnoord | cr2: #define GRP_CLK8 /* Graphics clock */ |
12:07.47 | Captnoord | if I check the ati dll it tells me that the clock is 54 |
12:07.49 | Captnoord | and not 8 |
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12:28.51 | Captnoord | balans |
12:28.55 | Captnoord | wakker? |
12:30.28 | mcdull | may I know which irc client best for ubuntu? |
12:30.53 | mcdull | I am using X-Chat gnome... |
12:31.23 | Captnoord | I always tought that was the best... but its related to what you call 'best' |
12:31.28 | Captnoord | as its related to what you need |
12:31.45 | mcdull | can I show user list always? |
12:31.58 | Captnoord | I clue |
12:32.02 | Captnoord | no clue* |
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12:32.32 | mcdull | and it doesn't enter password automatically... I need /msg every time I login |
12:32.59 | Captnoord | I don't know |
12:33.06 | Captnoord | maybe you can google for a feature comparisment |
12:33.21 | mcdull | anyway, at least it works/ |
12:33.29 | Captnoord | true |
12:33.56 | Captnoord | mcdull: have you the kernel compile stuff setup? do you compile your own kernels? |
12:34.22 | mcdull | I tried.. but I don't know how to compile the wifi module. |
12:34.42 | Captnoord | nah... not talking about the wifi module |
12:34.48 | Captnoord | the kernel |
12:35.06 | mcdull | not recently. may be I can try it now. |
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12:35.25 | Captnoord | could you build me a kernel |
12:35.32 | Captnoord | which some changes |
12:35.35 | Captnoord | 1 actualy |
12:35.55 | mcdull | I need to confirm my kernel compiled working first. |
12:36.03 | Captnoord | clock.h in the arch/arm/msm directory |
12:36.04 | Captnoord | k |
12:36.24 | Captnoord | change #define GRP_CLK8 /* Graphics clock */ |
12:36.25 | Captnoord | to |
12:36.26 | Captnoord | #define GRP_CLK54 /* Graphics clock */ |
12:44.39 | Captnoord | lol |
12:44.42 | Captnoord | nvm that won't work |
12:44.45 | Captnoord | bleh!!!!! |
12:46.29 | mcdull | so I don't need to try? |
12:46.42 | Captnoord | nope |
12:46.54 | GNUtoo | 0x405ca0b0 <MSMProbe+256>:movwr1, #17922; 0x4602 |
12:46.55 | Captnoord | I need to actualy code stuff to make it work |
12:47.03 | GNUtoo | I'll look |
12:47.04 | Captnoord | hugs GNUtoo |
12:47.08 | mcdull | ok.. then I take time to set up environment including wifi module. |
12:47.12 | Captnoord | k |
12:47.29 | GNUtoo | Captnoord, ? |
12:47.45 | Captnoord | nvm |
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12:55.47 | GNUtoo | what kind of instruction is that |
12:55.59 | GNUtoo | a grep in ARM Architecture Reference Manual didn't find it |
12:56.03 | GNUtoo | I'll look at mov |
12:56.36 | GNUtoo | because it could be a condition |
12:57.03 | mcdull | any one knows the howto in compiling a wifi enabled kernel? |
12:57.09 | Captnoord | movw |
12:57.12 | Captnoord | is |
12:57.14 | Captnoord | move word |
12:57.17 | Captnoord | or |
12:57.19 | Captnoord | move wide |
12:57.21 | Captnoord | lemme check |
12:57.34 | mcdull | git://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/compat-wireless-msm.git |
12:57.43 | mcdull | is it the only git I need for wifi? |
12:58.19 | GNUtoo | not in condition |
12:58.25 | GNUtoo | ok |
12:58.27 | GNUtoo | thanks |
12:58.32 | Captnoord | k |
12:59.36 | GNUtoo | maybe neon then |
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13:01.43 | Captnoord | GNUtoo: if it was movmi then it was conditional |
13:01.52 | Captnoord | movwr1, #17922; 0x4602 |
13:01.58 | Captnoord | the asm talks for itself |
13:02.01 | Captnoord | this is just |
13:02.15 | Captnoord | uint16 r1 = 0x4602; |
13:02.52 | GNUtoo | I forgetten to tell my problem: |
13:03.34 | GNUtoo | Program received signal SIGILL, Illegal instruction. |
13:03.49 | GNUtoo | 0x405ca0b0 in MSMProbe () from /mnt/embedded_rootfs/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/msm_drv.so |
13:04.21 | Captnoord | send me the .so |
13:04.22 | Captnoord | :P |
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13:05.04 | GNUtoo | ok |
13:05.33 | Captnoord | i'll flush it trough ida.... maybe I can see what this is |
13:06.06 | GNUtoo | http://ftp.o2s.ch/pub/openmoko/ipk/armv6-novfp/xf86-video-msm_1.1.0%2br9d%2bgitr5f7df59155ae301a3ebc40aec22ed16d203cb5fc-r9d.4_armv6-novfp.ipk |
13:06.26 | GNUtoo | I've gdb setup |
13:06.28 | GNUtoo | and running |
13:06.35 | GNUtoo | gdbserver->gdb |
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13:06.46 | Captnoord | is a slave of windows atm |
13:06.48 | Captnoord | :S |
13:07.13 | GNUtoo | ah: 0x405ca218 <MSMProbe+616>:undefined instruction 0xffffeb30 |
13:07.17 | GNUtoo | I didn't see that |
13:07.32 | GNUtoo | I'll pastebin the disass |
13:07.52 | Captnoord | the file you send me is the .so? |
13:07.53 | Captnoord | k |
13:08.10 | GNUtoo | http://pastebin.com/d41a49753 |
13:08.12 | GNUtoo | no |
13:08.15 | GNUtoo | it was the ipk |
13:08.18 | GNUtoo | containing the so |
13:08.31 | Captnoord | I don't think I can extract ipk on windows |
13:08.35 | slight | am i right in thinking there's no 3d driver for xorg for raphael? |
13:09.02 | Captnoord | GNUtoo: Backtrace stopped: previous frame identical to this frame (corrupt stack?) |
13:09.05 | GNUtoo | ah ok |
13:09.05 | Captnoord | can't trust it |
13:09.27 | GNUtoo | ok nice...mmm |
13:09.36 | GNUtoo | so I'll give you the file |
13:09.36 | Captnoord | usualy you need to go up one stack call |
13:09.42 | GNUtoo | ok |
13:09.44 | GNUtoo | here I can't |
13:10.02 | Captnoord | k |
13:11.35 | Captnoord | strheq lr, [r0], -r4 |
13:11.39 | Captnoord | is tricky |
13:11.52 | Captnoord | half if equal |
13:12.11 | Captnoord | *(( r0 - r4 )) = lr |
13:12.15 | Captnoord | lr = link register |
13:12.22 | Captnoord | so if you do a bl... |
13:12.25 | Captnoord | branch link |
13:12.37 | Captnoord | you can change lr so you can make the functions like a linked list |
13:12.58 | Captnoord | I think its borked because the offset where its pointing |
13:13.04 | Captnoord | isn't a function |
13:13.17 | Captnoord | so would suggest the problem is somewhere related to those functions |
13:13.17 | Captnoord | or |
13:13.32 | Captnoord | where the functions would be located |
13:13.54 | GNUtoo | http://gnutoo.homelinux.org/debug/msm_drv.so |
13:14.19 | GNUtoo | ok |
13:14.24 | GNUtoo | thanks a lot |
13:14.42 | mcdull | the git repo is very slow... 1k/s |
13:14.58 | Captnoord | GNUtoo: but what I just sayd can be related to the stack corruption |
13:15.07 | GNUtoo | ok |
13:15.17 | Captnoord | stack corruption is like allocating a single byte in memory |
13:15.24 | GNUtoo | I don't know why but everytime I bt now I've stack coruption |
13:15.27 | Captnoord | and typecasting it as a short |
13:15.36 | Captnoord | and then store a value in that short |
13:15.48 | GNUtoo | can it be codesourcey's toolchain? |
13:15.48 | Captnoord | resulting memory beeing written outside the allocated space / stack... |
13:15.57 | Captnoord | possible.... but I don't know...... |
13:16.04 | GNUtoo | ok |
13:16.14 | GNUtoo | I'll try another toolchain |
13:16.24 | GNUtoo | because I have it everytime |
13:16.25 | Captnoord | I personaly hate stack corruptions because its almost impossible to debug them properly |
13:16.30 | GNUtoo | I'll ask in oe |
13:16.33 | Captnoord | k |
13:16.41 | Captnoord | and they are always something very small |
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13:22.54 | Captnoord | phh the stackpointer has been corrupted |
13:23.02 | Captnoord | GNUtoo: the stackpointer has been corrupted |
13:23.03 | Captnoord | woeps |
13:23.05 | Captnoord | sorry phh |
13:24.27 | GNUtoo | ok |
13:26.06 | Captnoord | from my point of view it can be amost everything |
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13:28.11 | Captnoord | hmmmm |
13:28.30 | Captnoord | yup |
13:28.38 | Captnoord | the sp is 0x10 bigger than it needs to be |
13:28.42 | Captnoord | so it ends up |
13:28.50 | Captnoord | .text:00002218 off_2218 DCD dword_EFAC - 0x1047C ; DATA XREF: MSMProbe+1Cr |
13:28.51 | Captnoord | here |
13:29.08 | Captnoord | 00002218 30 EB FF FF |
13:29.16 | Captnoord | # |
13:29.16 | Captnoord | 0x405ca218 <MSMProbe+616>: undefined instruction 0xffffeb30 |
13:29.21 | Captnoord | see |
13:29.50 | Captnoord | otherwise it would have ended up at |
13:29.51 | Captnoord | .text:00002208 loc_2208 ; CODE XREF: MSMProbe+250j |
13:29.56 | Captnoord | which is the exit function |
13:30.09 | Captnoord | how this all is possible I can't explain |
13:33.50 | GNUtoo | ok |
13:33.54 | GNUtoo | thanks a lot |
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14:38.51 | Paul_Ishenin | congratulations. but in what game? |
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15:00.50 | GNUtoo | hi leviathan |
15:02.09 | Paul_Ishenin | slight, very nice info |
15:06.13 | slight | looks interesting doesn't it |
15:06.29 | slight | suspect it might be hard to get hold of though |
15:07.27 | mcdull | hi |
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16:01.31 | GNUtoo | leviathan, ping I need your xf86-video-msm modifications else I can't debug it |
16:12.16 | slight | GNUtoo, can you tell me if there's 3d accel with xorg for raphael? i've found some bits in logs that seem to imply there might be, but nothing concrete |
16:12.38 | GNUtoo | slight, it's just memory management...there is no 3d |
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16:13.30 | slight | saw leviathan refer to some binary that could be "linked in to get 3d-acceleration" |
16:13.53 | slight | but he was probably talking about something else |
16:14.02 | GNUtoo | at the beginning I thought there was but someone corrected me telling me that there isn't because it was only for memory management |
16:14.08 | slight | k |
16:14.10 | slight | bugger |
16:14.15 | GNUtoo | slight, maybe the android lib for 3d |
16:14.22 | slight | i really want n900 ui :) |
16:14.34 | slight | but it looks like i'll have to buy an n900 ;) |
16:14.39 | GNUtoo | slight, we have a nice ui with enlightenment |
16:14.58 | slight | oh i saw raster was doing phone oriented stuff |
16:15.02 | GNUtoo | slight, there is a test app that has great performance |
16:15.07 | GNUtoo | on the htcdream |
16:15.42 | slight | i guess having it usable as a day to day UI is probably a long way off though? |
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16:27.48 | GNUtoo | slight, no it's easy as changing the config of enlightenment |
16:27.58 | GNUtoo | just that nobody did it |
16:29.20 | GNUtoo | leviathan, ping |
16:29.28 | GNUtoo | I won't re-do your work |
16:29.39 | GNUtoo | and I *NEED* your oe diff |
16:32.13 | GNUtoo | -mfpu=neon |
16:32.18 | GNUtoo | neon is for armv7 |
16:32.30 | GNUtoo | ok I'll do something else.... |
16:32.38 | GNUtoo | no patches no debugging |
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16:35.05 | slight | illume for e17 looks nice |
16:35.58 | GNUtoo | yes |
16:36.06 | GNUtoo | it has a test app |
16:36.10 | GNUtoo | that is even nicer |
16:36.13 | slight | heh :D |
16:36.45 | slight | can mer do 3g on raph et al? |
16:37.13 | slight | i would have tested by now myself but i've not got the keyboard enter key working right or the touch screen |
16:37.27 | GNUtoo | slight, you'll have some problem for replacing the non-free libs |
16:38.32 | slight | from maemo? |
16:40.06 | GNUtoo | yes maemo could depend on some non-free libs for the telefony |
16:40.19 | GNUtoo | http://wiki.maemo.org/Free_Maemo |
16:40.21 | slight | right |
16:40.59 | slight | wow |
16:41.12 | slight | i knew there were closed bits but i didn't realise there were that many |
16:41.13 | GNUtoo | indeed there is a lot of non-free stuff |
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16:51.58 | Captnoord | GNUtoo: progress? |
16:52.06 | GNUtoo | Captnoord, I need leviathan |
16:52.18 | GNUtoo | Captnoord, I bet he built it with neon |
16:52.18 | Captnoord | slight 3d works on raph.... before booting run a 3d app and it will enable the 3d clock |
16:52.39 | Captnoord | hehe |
16:52.43 | Captnoord | he did yea |
16:52.58 | GNUtoo | we have no neon |
16:53.09 | GNUtoo | neon is armv7 no? |
16:53.24 | Captnoord | neon_memcopy |
16:53.27 | Captnoord | I don't know |
16:53.32 | GNUtoo | maybe he doesn't know what neon is so it didn't trigger something |
16:53.36 | GNUtoo | in his mind |
16:53.44 | Captnoord | possible |
16:54.13 | GNUtoo | I tried first with debugger but it was broken...so I looked at the sources |
16:54.27 | GNUtoo | and found that it was very trivial things that were made in neon |
16:54.39 | Captnoord | hehe |
16:55.19 | GNUtoo | so easy to replace |
16:55.48 | Captnoord | yup... only you need to rebuild... hehe |
16:55.57 | Captnoord | or rework the .so |
16:55.57 | Captnoord | :P |
16:56.18 | Captnoord | don't be scared I won't even do it |
16:57.09 | GNUtoo | mickeyl, would a mailing list be usefull? I think so... where can I find one? |
16:57.30 | GNUtoo | how could I rework the so |
16:57.46 | Captnoord | your really interested? |
16:57.46 | GNUtoo | I only change the branch and link but to what address? |
16:57.48 | GNUtoo | yes |
16:57.59 | Captnoord | you can rip out the neon functions |
16:58.03 | Captnoord | and replace them with the correct ones |
16:58.07 | GNUtoo | ok |
16:58.10 | mickeyl | GNUtoo: htc linux hackers are not interested in mailing lists |
16:58.11 | Captnoord | but... its very time consuming |
16:58.12 | GNUtoo | but they aren't inlined |
16:58.13 | mickeyl | we have one since ages |
16:58.16 | mickeyl | but it's not being used |
16:58.18 | GNUtoo | mickeyl, I am |
16:58.25 | GNUtoo | ok |
16:58.27 | mickeyl | GNUtoo: excellent, lets start making use of it |
16:58.31 | GNUtoo | where it is? |
16:58.39 | GNUtoo | it's mainly for leviathan and me |
16:59.23 | mickeyl | http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/mobile-linux-discuss/ |
17:00.13 | GNUtoo | thanks a lot |
17:00.23 | GNUtoo | btw did you hear about leviathan after fosdem? |
17:00.32 | mickeyl | np, guys like dcordes and cr2 should be subscribed there as well IIRC |
17:00.40 | mickeyl | GNUtoo: not really, no |
17:00.59 | mickeyl | although he seems to talk in #neo1973-germany |
17:00.59 | GNUtoo | ok |
17:01.18 | Captnoord | http://fosdem.org/2010/ |
17:01.20 | Captnoord | that one? |
17:01.29 | GNUtoo | yes |
17:02.34 | GNUtoo | does someone has leviathan's oe patches for building xf86-video-msm? |
17:02.48 | GNUtoo | mickeyl, btw gdb is half broken in oe |
17:03.03 | GNUtoo | maybe I should send a mail |
17:03.17 | GNUtoo | no symbols but assembly works fine |
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17:03.36 | mickeyl | ya, please report that |
17:03.39 | GNUtoo | ok |
17:04.10 | GNUtoo | in codesourcey the symbols work...but not the rest(frame coruption) |
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17:12.11 | slight | Captnoord, regarding 3d, is that just for android or for 'regular' linux running xorg too? |
17:12.34 | slight | i have 3d working in android which is great but i had my eyes on hildon |
17:14.43 | Captnoord | thats regardless linux |
17:14.48 | Captnoord | not related to android |
17:14.54 | Captnoord | but that the 3d part |
17:14.57 | Captnoord | xorg |
17:15.01 | Captnoord | is something entirely different |
17:15.05 | Captnoord | check netrippers log for it |
17:15.11 | Captnoord | there are some people working on it or not |
17:15.34 | slight | 3d is usually handled by a kernel driver rather than an xorg driver? |
17:16.15 | slight | anyway, cheers, i'll poke through the logs :) |
17:27.37 | mcdull | any good news today? |
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17:56.33 | GNUtoo | leviathan, ping |
17:58.43 | MrPippy | cool froyo will be 2.6.32 and gingerbread will be .33 or .34 |
17:58.51 | phh | [21:56:53] <bzo> phh: have you seen the qualcomm gps source? http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/hardware/qcom/gps.git;a=summary <----- baaaahhhhhhh I think it's too late for these infos now -_-' |
17:58.54 | phh | still it's good to have. |
17:59.20 | phh | [22:13:33] <makkonen> I guess it could be... but it looks like just the higher level tie-in stuff for android to talk to the lower level drivers. I imagine what we need is better source for those lower level parts. <-------- nope, it's direct access to A9 |
17:59.45 | phh | well, there is the rpc layer around it, but it only helps readability (and we have rpc sources) |
18:01.08 | phh | (I have seen only few code lines of these sources yet) |
18:02.20 | phh | [23:15:36] <Captnoord> how I think the batt driver should be coded like <----- I'd prefer a stateless battery reading :/ |
18:03.47 | phh | [04:43:28] <MrPippy> i think phh was confident that android wouldn't mess with nand <----- I insmod then read then rmmod and delete the device |
18:03.57 | phh | it can't kill anything |
18:04.01 | MrPippy | has rmmod ever worked right for you? |
18:04.04 | phh | or if it can't, it's murphy, and I can't do anything against it. |
18:04.16 | phh | MrPippy: there is a little mkdir to do, see the loadit script |
18:04.30 | phh | (and yes, it still gives an error when calling rmmod, but it works.) |
18:04.50 | MrPippy | yeah, mtdchar was still loaded for me |
18:04.55 | phh | arf |
18:06.27 | MrPippy | maybe we should delete mtd0 and mtd0ro just in case it doesn't unload right |
18:07.26 | babijoee | too sleepy :p |
18:07.49 | babijoee | i'll be on tommorow :) |
18:08.47 | phh | yyyyaaaaaayyyyyy |
18:08.54 | phh | the libgps has a totally new rpc from us. |
18:08.58 | phh | so totally useless. |
18:13.39 | DarkMasterHalo | :(, I only get 8hours of battery, I want more !, but hey, the battery status seems to be reporting fine now :D |
18:13.42 | MrPippy | swetland: We've already moved to 2.6.32 (final cleaned up branches should be online this week) |
18:15.06 | mickeyl | .32 for which machines? |
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18:16.41 | MrPippy | its the common android tree, i don't know if it supports any machines (maybe the emulator) |
18:24.21 | phh | MrPippy: 2.6.32 has huge changes |
18:24.30 | MrPippy | for what? |
18:25.01 | phh | msmfb |
18:25.33 | mcdull | Good night / morning / evening and bye. |
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18:51.39 | leobaillard | [19:23] <phh> MrPippy: 2.6.32 has huge changes <-- what do they imply ? |
18:51.52 | phh | lot of time :p |
18:52.33 | leobaillard | yeah, but you mentionned msmfb, what does it change for this for example ? |
18:52.56 | phh | new texture format |
18:53.06 | phh | support of their X driver |
18:53.15 | leobaillard | oh ! that's great ! |
18:53.47 | phh | <PROTECTED> |
18:53.48 | phh | 7k* |
18:54.19 | leobaillard | oh... :( |
18:54.26 | tmzt | captnoord: that's interesting |
18:55.18 | tmzt | captnoord: 7zip ccan extract ipk, it's ar+tar.gz |
18:57.33 | tmzt | GNUtoo: xorg? :) |
18:58.03 | GNUtoo | tmzt, yes...I strongly hesitate from stoping to wait |
18:58.07 | GNUtoo | for leviathan |
18:58.23 | tmzt | slight: you should be able to adapt the android libhgl to a egl wrapper like kristen's and use that |
18:58.35 | tmzt | but that probably means leaving pmem in place |
18:59.08 | phh | tmzt: AFAIK pmem stuff is handled by the stuff for which we have source code |
19:00.14 | tmzt | slight: I think the best choice is to work on mer (#mer) which has similar goals such as replacing the non-free stuff and supporting less capable hardware |
19:00.16 | slight | interesting. but way over my head unfortunately :) |
19:00.37 | phh | tmzt: someone wrote egl wrappers to android egl ? |
19:00.39 | phh | cool |
19:00.47 | slight | i'm just an interested linx user (of many years, but still ;) |
19:00.47 | tmzt | what is msm_drv? |
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19:03.23 | tmzt | is supscribed to moible-linux-discuss |
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19:06.26 | tmzt | MrPippy: android on 2.6.32? |
19:06.51 | tmzt | oh, that's not quite what lev was doing with upstream |
19:08.07 | tmzt | phh: libagl is such a wrapper |
19:08.17 | tmzt | but Xorg really needs a mesa port |
19:08.50 | phh | you might port Xegl on this lib |
19:08.59 | tmzt | the webos-internals people have wrappers in both driections now for the sgx chip |
19:09.04 | tmzt | Xegl is dead |
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19:09.55 | tmzt | so all this eclair-specific stuff with logic in the kernel is coming to 2.6.32 now? |
19:10.04 | tmzt | where is gnu project going? |
19:10.26 | phh | eclair specific logic ? |
19:10.31 | tmzt | is there just no interest |
19:10.49 | tmzt | like the msm driver, tssc server, gps/rpc? |
19:11.02 | phh | "msm driver" ? |
19:11.05 | BrilliantMistake | Test for echo |
19:11.08 | phh | tssc server ? |
19:11.23 | phh | gps/rpc ? |
19:11.26 | tmzt | hmm, hw3d_eclair, tssc calibration |
19:11.37 | phh | tssc calibration has no link with android |
19:11.43 | phh | it's just a better driver than our |
19:11.49 | tmzt | coding kernel abi to match android userspace |
19:11.59 | tmzt | but why is calibration in the kernel? |
19:12.03 | phh | hw3d_eclair is because they improved their API, if we had to handle DRI2, such things would happen |
19:12.12 | BrilliantMistake | Anybody got 2 mins private to discuss rebuilding system.sqsh? |
19:12.13 | tmzt | that's good |
19:12.26 | phh | BrilliantMistake: unsquashfs3 && mksquashfs3 |
19:12.28 | tmzt | progress is of course good |
19:12.39 | BrilliantMistake | more complicated than that! |
19:12.39 | phh | tmzt: ok, calibration in kernel is no good. |
19:12.45 | phh | at least the calibration UI is no longer in the kernel :p |
19:12.48 | phh | BrilliantMistake: no it's not :p |
19:12.50 | BrilliantMistake | I'll be shot for this, but it's on win32! |
19:12.59 | phh | BrilliantMistake: then get a linux :p |
19:13.11 | tmzt | you can't do permissions on windows |
19:13.21 | tmzt | try colinux or ubuntu server vm |
19:13.56 | tmzt | phh: and the alsa driver? |
19:13.57 | BrilliantMistake | if I could I would... don't ask... no room, I'm messing with osx86! |
19:14.18 | tmzt | sound works on rhod100 now? any reason that shouldn't work in a gnu environment? |
19:14.21 | phh | tmzt: I let people with working devices playing with that. |
19:14.37 | phh | no, still no sound on rhod |
19:14.37 | BrilliantMistake | I think it's the permissions that are failing, but not certain... setting all files owned by root |
19:14.42 | tmzt | BrilliantMistake: use case-sensitive fs and compile squash tools for it |
19:14.51 | tmzt | don't do that |
19:14.58 | BrilliantMistake | just don't wanna hog this thread |
19:15.26 | tmzt | hmm, how is diam? have you exhausted it's potential yet? |
19:15.50 | phh | tmzt: no it's actual android problems with diam. |
19:15.56 | phh | not enough ram :'( |
19:16.04 | phh | well, I guess it has enough, but not correctly used. |
19:16.13 | tmzt | yeah |
19:16.38 | phh | I tried to use some memory from SMI, but it just crashed |
19:16.44 | phh | I didn't make any further tries after that |
19:18.04 | slight | BrilliantMistake, you could get an amazon ec2 account and boot a server on it |
19:18.22 | slight | they're pay as you go, just remember to shut it down when you're done |
19:18.24 | BrilliantMistake | oooh didn't know about that |
19:18.44 | slight | http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/ |
19:19.02 | slight | once you're signed up you can use this to manage instances: |
19:19.04 | slight | https://console.aws.amazon.com/ec2/home |
19:19.13 | BrilliantMistake | also, whilst I'm here... is compression on squashfs worthwhile on msm? |
19:19.21 | slight | i booted a windows server 2008 install to test a website in ie8 the other day ;p |
19:19.44 | BrilliantMistake | I've got squashfs tools on windows... just finding my sqsh ain't working! |
19:20.07 | phh | BrilliantMistake: makkonen tried ext2, it wasn't smoother |
19:20.15 | slight | <tmzt> you can't do permissions on windows |
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19:21.37 | BrilliantMistake | right, VM here I come.... I hate Mark Shuttleworth, but Ubuntu will just have to do |
19:23.00 | tmzt | because he tried to give the world real crypto? |
19:23.41 | slight | hey man you're runnign windows, you can't bitch about ubuntu being impure ;p |
19:24.03 | BrilliantMistake | harsh, but fair |
19:24.23 | slight | tmzt's answer was better though heh |
19:25.08 | BrilliantMistake | I'm just packaging up the releases in a cab for the XDA users...it's going really nicely and widely adopted, but I'm discovering the 'content' (apps) etc are a mess |
19:25.49 | BrilliantMistake | so trying to clean it up.... while you lot figure out where the 3rd dimension actually went (HW3D)! |
19:25.55 | tmzt | what's the reason, I'm curious |
19:27.45 | BrilliantMistake | the apps are duplicated in the system.sqsh and 'AndroidApps' folder... total waste |
19:28.03 | tmzt | hmm, I mean Shuttleworth |
19:28.43 | BrilliantMistake | ah...long story... 5 interviews with Canonical |
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19:29.05 | tmzt | hmm |
19:29.19 | tmzt | so it's personal reason not generic |
19:29.29 | tmzt | okay, at least that's rational |
19:30.07 | BrilliantMistake | well, he's young (ish), good looking (ish), smart, wealthy.... what's to LIKE? |
19:30.27 | slight | lol |
19:30.51 | phh | BrilliantMistake: you should make an android kitchen :p |
19:32.24 | BrilliantMistake | Sadly, I'm not a Linux guy.... I'm an ex Symbian, Sony Ericsson, Nokia, Motorola guy |
19:32.48 | BrilliantMistake | but my dev days are long behind me |
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19:36.38 | slight | hello... "AIGLX enabled"..."Loading extension GLX" |
19:38.12 | slight | that's promising |
19:39.00 | slight | right i'm off. night o/ |
19:39.11 | phh | has anyone tried sense ui since we got 3D accel back ? |
19:40.11 | BrilliantMistake | resounding chorus of negative there |
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19:48.30 | tmzt | phh: sense only works on 1.6 |
19:48.36 | phh | tmzt: ah ok |
19:48.52 | tmzt | hmm, if no direct rendering that means very little |
19:48.57 | tmzt | oh, he left |
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19:49.22 | phh | tmzt: msm chip just can't do direct rendering |
19:49.34 | phh | still, it's not ridiculous as performances |
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19:58.53 | BrilliantMistake | Right, life beckons.... great work chaps... keep it up. That damn HW3D's a pain, but you'll get it working on my Blackstone eventually! Take care! |
19:59.20 | phh | BrilliantMistake: it will wait for my rhod to come |
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20:06.15 | MrPippy | the spy shots of the htc incredible show sense ui on 2.1, it probably isn't too far away |
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20:14.14 | adamw | is just waiting for phh's rhodium to arrive, in general |
20:14.17 | adamw | ahh, laziness. |
20:14.20 | phh | :D |
20:16.30 | phh | I still haven't tried all the games I downloaded -_-' |
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20:35.13 | chamonix | hey guys |
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20:39.03 | babijoee | hey chamonix |
20:39.12 | babijoee | its abit quiet eh |
20:39.29 | GNUtoo | ok I was fedup and found a hack |
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20:39.39 | GNUtoo | s/found/used |
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20:40.04 | tmzt | ? |
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20:43.36 | chamonix | heya babijoee :) hows u? |
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21:09.05 | Spirits-Sight | Hello, anyone the status with the kasier and android? |
21:10.49 | tmzt | hey |
21:11.03 | tmzt | seems everything works with dzo's images |
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21:14.06 | phh | how to kill mmc ? just synchronize spotify. |
21:14.29 | tmzt | mmc? |
21:14.38 | phh | internal storage of my diam |
21:15.06 | MrPippy | did you find an improvement with the noop iosched? |
21:15.27 | phh | MrPippy: oh i forgot that one. |
21:15.35 | phh | actually I think it's actually worst than before :p |
21:15.51 | MrPippy | yeah i think it might be |
21:15.52 | phh | but I think it's because of memory, not mmc |
21:16.22 | MrPippy | your diam's lack of memory? |
21:16.26 | phh | yes |
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21:16.59 | cr2_ | NetRipper: ping |
21:19.41 | Spirits-Sight | where can I find dzo's image for the kasier? |
21:19.58 | Spirits-Sight | also does it have gmail access & market? |
21:20.20 | playdo | some improvements with blackstone hw3d done? |
21:20.21 | Spirits-Sight | tmzt: ^^ |
21:20.30 | phh | playdo: wait ~ a week :p |
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21:21.14 | playdo | i have time phh :D |
21:21.24 | cr2_ | phh: from haret |
21:21.32 | cr2_ | hi dcordes |
21:21.36 | cr2_ | Detected machine Leo/QSD8xxx (Plat='PocketPC' OEM='HTC_HD2') |
21:21.38 | cr2_ | CPU is Qualcomm ARM arch 7 stepping 2 running in system mode |
21:21.39 | tmzt | Spirits-Sight: I don't know much about nonA |
21:22.01 | dcordes | cr2_, others, hi |
21:22.05 | tmzt | pretty sure some images will have the config to support market and sync |
21:22.14 | cr2_ | dcordes: ^^ |
21:22.18 | tmzt | cr2_: you have a leo? |
21:22.23 | cr2_ | yes |
21:22.39 | cr2_ | just patched haret to support my oem id |
21:23.02 | dcordes | nice |
21:23.40 | NetRipper | send the patch cr2_ |
21:23.41 | NetRipper | :) |
21:23.47 | dcordes | hi NetRipper |
21:23.50 | Spirits-Sight | tmzt: do you know where the dzo keeps his images? |
21:23.51 | NetRipper | hi |
21:24.10 | cr2_ | NetRipper: could not find you at weekend |
21:24.26 | makkonen | phh: so you're really getting a rhodium? Have I mentioned to you yet how you should get one with the cdma+gsm radio? :-) |
21:24.26 | NetRipper | i've been catching up on work this weekend |
21:24.46 | Spirits-Sight | anyone know when a AT&T phone is coming with Android with a nice keyboard is coming? |
21:25.00 | phh | makkonen: AFAIK for rhodium, cdma is the same as gsm but AT commands |
21:25.11 | cr2_ | NetRipper: patch |
21:25.15 | cr2_ | -Leo, QSD8xxx ,HTC HD2 T8585, HTCLEO |
21:25.16 | cr2_ | +Leo, QSD8xxx ,HTC HD2 T8585;HTC_HD2, HTCLEO |
21:25.21 | dcordes | Spirits-Sight, http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/ |
21:25.22 | tmzt | do we know how to switch the mode yet? |
21:25.23 | NetRipper | alright |
21:25.24 | NetRipper | ta |
21:25.35 | makkonen | phh: oh, so many fewer issues than we've had on this generation? |
21:26.02 | cr2_ | NetRipper: what about vfp ? does it have hw fp support ? |
21:26.12 | NetRipper | yes |
21:26.18 | MrPippy | so cdma is gonna be all ril? no smd_7500 hack needed? |
21:26.21 | NetRipper | cr2_, you need android toolchain to build with |
21:26.22 | phh | makkonen: I might be wrong thouogh |
21:26.31 | NetRipper | cr2_, most other toolchains dont have vfp support |
21:26.36 | cr2_ | NetRipper: what i really hate is the lameass eiphone like interface and controls ;) |
21:26.49 | adamw | Spirits-Sight: you can use a tilt2 or fuze with the keymap for the touch pro or touch pro 2, and relabel the keys :) |
21:26.51 | Spirits-Sight | dcordes: which files do I use? |
21:26.52 | NetRipper | cr2_, lol put hspl on it and flash a bare rom |
21:26.54 | NetRipper | but i like it |
21:26.55 | cr2_ | NetRipper: ok |
21:27.01 | phh | cr2_: captnoord doesn't agree with your RPC values :p |
21:27.15 | cr2_ | phh: for which amss ? |
21:27.16 | captnoord | hehe |
21:27.20 | phh | cr2_: 5225 |
21:27.28 | captnoord | most are correct |
21:27.30 | cr2_ | impossible :) |
21:27.30 | captnoord | some are not |
21:27.33 | captnoord | hehee |
21:27.34 | makkonen | phh: so, in case you're wrong... you should get a RHOD400. :-) There's no downside. You can use it if you travel to the US... or slovenia... or china. |
21:27.41 | captnoord | [22:26] <captnoord> 0x26 = clk_regime_sec_sel_vfe_src -> correct |
21:27.47 | adamw | makkonen: phh is getting a tilt2, cos that's what reefermattness could get him cheap |
21:27.50 | captnoord | [22:25] <captnoord> 0x27 would be |
21:27.50 | captnoord | [22:25] <captnoord> clk_regime_sec_msm_sel_camclk |
21:27.57 | makkonen | (man is there not much of a good argument for cdma) |
21:28.10 | phh | makkonen: there is just no cdma network around me anyway |
21:28.17 | cr2_ | captnoord: don't have the second notebook now |
21:28.20 | captnoord | and clk_regime_sec_msm_get_clk_freq_khz is also correct |
21:28.24 | captnoord | 0x25 |
21:28.25 | cr2_ | captnoord: so can't check |
21:28.27 | captnoord | k |
21:28.57 | adamw | you generally can't roam with cdma even if you go from the u.s. to...slovenia...anyway |
21:29.04 | cr2_ | NetRipper: german version has 2GB SDcard included, with the navigon software |
21:29.05 | adamw | as cdma operators won't usually authorize phones from other cdma networks |
21:29.22 | makkonen | phh: yeah, I know, but if you had a raph800 I wouldn't have to be trying to find fixes for all the ways it's different from the RAPH100... someone else would have to be finding fixes for all the ways the raph100 was different from the raph800. |
21:29.32 | adamw | er, you can roam. you can't pay the other network directly. doh. |
21:29.38 | phh | makkonen: lol |
21:29.39 | NetRipper | cr2_, i think i had 2gb included as well |
21:29.45 | cr2_ | adamw: slovenia is so retarded, and uses cdma ? |
21:29.53 | adamw | cr2_: makkonen claims so |
21:29.58 | cr2_ | hm |
21:30.01 | adamw | i refer all enquiries to him :) |
21:30.20 | captnoord | i'll list the rpc thingy's |
21:30.23 | makkonen | someone from slovenia was on here a few days ago, and I think he had a cdma device. I might be misremembering. |
21:30.27 | cr2_ | maybe some strange provider |
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21:30.47 | cr2_ | captnoord: split between 5225, 6125 and 1550 |
21:30.53 | phh | makkonen: isn't them the ones who cry because their internet connection doesn't work ? |
21:30.56 | captnoord | k |
21:30.58 | dcordes | cr2_, did you buy from vodafone? |
21:30.59 | adamw | i think china's isn't really like the cdma in the us/canada anyway, right? |
21:31.22 | cr2_ | dcordes: no |
21:31.31 | cr2_ | dcordes: it's tmob branded device |
21:31.44 | cr2_ | NetRipper: it has tmc dll, but i don't know if it works |
21:31.45 | makkonen | I don't know. there are some people in my thread who have raph800s on china mobile. |
21:31.55 | dcordes | cr2_, ebay? |
21:32.09 | MrPippy | yeah i've gotten some chinese PMs too |
21:32.15 | cr2_ | NetRipper: too much spyware on the phone to check first |
21:32.19 | adamw | cr2_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CDMA2000_networks |
21:32.20 | adamw | wow, who knew |
21:32.21 | cr2_ | dcordes: 7mobile |
21:33.09 | cr2_ | dcordes: ebay is too risky for me :) |
21:33.13 | makkonen | why is my logcat littered with /data/misc/keystore: permission denied errors? |
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21:33.14 | adamw | you too can hit such exciting destinations as...kazakhstan |
21:33.19 | NetRipper | cr2_, yea i love that part |
21:33.22 | NetRipper | exploring your phone |
21:33.24 | NetRipper | and ruining it |
21:33.27 | NetRipper | :) |
21:33.48 | cr2_ | adamw: lol. 450 MHz band |
21:35.54 | cr2_ | NetRipper: haret .rc needs some fixes |
21:36.06 | dcordes | mickey|tv, ping |
21:36.21 | cr2_ | NetRipper: this is the logon |
21:36.24 | cr2_ | Detected machine Leo/QSD8xxx (Plat='PocketPC' OEM='HTC_HD2') |
21:36.26 | cr2_ | CPU is Qualcomm ARM arch 7 stepping 2 running in system mode |
21:36.27 | NetRipper | cr2_, but i don't want to break haret for older 320x320 devices |
21:36.32 | NetRipper | cr2_, yep thats good |
21:36.39 | cr2_ | NetRipper: 240x240 too |
21:36.40 | NetRipper | nice huh |
21:36.46 | NetRipper | that it detects that it's a Qualcomm |
21:36.51 | NetRipper | *boasts his ego* |
21:37.03 | cr2_ | NetRipper: yes, even with the wrong OEM entry |
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21:37.20 | NetRipper | yep it reads the manufacturer id from the arm register |
21:37.21 | NetRipper | :) |
21:37.57 | cr2_ | NetRipper: but the gpio number is wrong in this case |
21:38.08 | NetRipper | nnnoooooooooo |
21:38.09 | NetRipper | which one? |
21:38.13 | cr2_ | NetRipper: i get a lot of gpio spam. are these from LCD ? |
21:38.23 | NetRipper | yes, hold on |
21:38.25 | NetRipper | i have a pastebin with ignores |
21:38.34 | NetRipper | might put that in haret source |
21:38.36 | cr2_ | NetRipper: 'ibit gpios ' is limited with 64 |
21:38.38 | NetRipper | spamming stuff |
21:38.49 | cr2_ | spamming needs to added to wiki |
21:39.38 | cr2_ | NetRipper: the htc ceo said "there will be no android on hd2", i'm reading on google :) |
21:40.56 | MrPippy | uh oh, he might send assassins to take you all out ;-) |
21:40.58 | NetRipper | yea it was leaked by accident |
21:41.01 | NetRipper | oh no wait |
21:41.22 | cr2_ | MrPippy: we are not working on android, so he is right :) |
21:41.31 | NetRipper | that was the official response by htc... as some taiwan htc twitter account leaked that android might come to hd2 |
21:41.35 | NetRipper | :) |
21:41.50 | makkonen | whatever. sprint's got the supersonic coming, which is basically an android-running-hd2 (with wimax). |
21:42.13 | cr2_ | makkonen: wimax is not hd2 by definition |
21:42.30 | cr2_ | makkonen: nexus is even closer to hd2 |
21:42.51 | NetRipper | http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo_HaRET |
21:42.54 | cr2_ | it's all about amss and it's fsck'd interfaces |
21:42.55 | makkonen | well, no, not technically. but it's a 4.3" screen device, in basically the same cladding as the hd2, with a snapdragon processor. |
21:42.57 | NetRipper | ive put it on there |
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21:43.22 | cr2_ | NetRipper: ok, i may edit the gpio list too |
21:43.54 | cr2_ | NetRipper: there is a red/green led on the front ? |
21:44.16 | cr2_ | NetRipper: what are the 2 holes left from the green/red led ? |
21:44.30 | NetRipper | light sensor |
21:44.40 | NetRipper | i only see one hole though? |
21:45.08 | cr2_ | NetRipper: the reset button is located in a wrong place. for a device marketed as a wince phone, i mean :) "running in system mode" |
21:45.10 | makkonen | gsm diam/raph users: your devices don't accurately report whether the phone is connected to a charger, do they? |
21:45.13 | NetRipper | hmm there might be something barely visible |
21:45.25 | NetRipper | it's probably the proximity sensor then |
21:45.30 | cr2_ | NetRipper: i see 2 |
21:45.41 | NetRipper | yes so then its probably light sensor + proximity sensor |
21:45.42 | NetRipper | or so.. |
21:45.44 | cr2_ | proximity ? |
21:45.47 | stinebd | makkonen: er, yes |
21:45.49 | NetRipper | yes |
21:45.59 | NetRipper | it detects when you hold the phone to your head |
21:46.04 | NetRipper | or when you put it in your pocket |
21:46.24 | makkonen | stinebd: oh. cool. I thought it was everyone. so it's just cdma that needs that fixed. |
21:46.26 | NetRipper | lol don't you read tech specs before you buy a 400 euro device? |
21:46.26 | cr2_ | hm. how does it work ? |
21:46.27 | NetRipper | :) |
21:46.35 | NetRipper | don't know the inner workings |
21:46.40 | cr2_ | NetRipper: of course not |
21:46.40 | NetRipper | you're the disassemble expert;) |
21:46.40 | dcordes | optically? |
21:47.05 | NetRipper | dcordes, i usually check what i buy on the internet, before buying it :p no need to do it optically;) |
21:47.23 | cr2_ | NetRipper: i never read tech specs :) |
21:47.42 | cr2_ | NetRipper: the device should be user-friendly |
21:48.01 | cr2_ | NetRipper: but i still didn't find out how to enable wifi |
21:48.09 | dcordes | NetRipper, I mean the pocket/ear detector |
21:48.22 | cr2_ | and see a lot of spyware too |
21:48.25 | NetRipper | cr2_, slide all the way to the right (config tab) then communications |
21:48.37 | NetRipper | oh sorry, 'wireless controls' |
21:48.38 | dcordes | cr2_, gps, ... ? |
21:48.44 | cr2_ | NetRipper: the wifi entry is grey |
21:48.50 | NetRipper | cr2_, because you're connected via usb |
21:49.01 | cr2_ | dcordes: gps is probably even more complex |
21:49.13 | cr2_ | NetRipper: WTF ? |
21:49.15 | NetRipper | if you disconnect usb, it's ungrayed.. but yes.. that's htc's poor judgement |
21:49.20 | dcordes | cr2_, what's the spyware? |
21:49.21 | cr2_ | hehe |
21:49.36 | NetRipper | htc made more mistakes.. :) |
21:49.56 | cr2_ | dcordes: sending reports to m$ and telling your location to google and whatever else. |
21:50.21 | NetRipper | (read: <cr2_> im paranoid) |
21:50.22 | NetRipper | :) |
21:50.52 | NetRipper | anyway cr2, wait till you set an alarm |
21:50.57 | NetRipper | and it goes off in the morning |
21:50.59 | |Jason8| | no |
21:51.05 | |Jason8| | That's not HTC's |
21:51.07 | |Jason8| | the wifi thing |
21:51.12 | |Jason8| | it's an activesync setting |
21:51.18 | cr2_ | NetRipper: ask dcordes about requesting money from google for streetview :) |
21:51.34 | NetRipper | eh? |
21:51.43 | NetRipper | |Jason8|, it worked perfectly fine on my hermes |
21:51.44 | cr2_ | |Jason8|: evil microsoft decision ? |
21:51.47 | |Jason8| | eh |
21:51.50 | |Jason8| | just uncheck a box |
21:51.56 | NetRipper | ah |
21:52.04 | NetRipper | havent found the box yet then :) |
21:52.07 | |Jason8| | um |
21:52.09 | |Jason8| | it's in connection settings |
21:52.11 | cr2_ | |Jason8|: what is the last USB option ? |
21:52.37 | cr2_ | ethernet,usb_storage,modem, ? |
21:52.44 | |Jason8| | 1sec |
21:52.59 | |Jason8| | k |
21:53.07 | |Jason8| | open up connection settings in activesync/device center |
21:53.16 | NetRipper | cr2_, you have a 4th choice?? |
21:53.22 | |Jason8| | check the "allow data connections on device when connected to PC" |
21:53.22 | cr2_ | NetRipper: yes |
21:53.27 | NetRipper | cr2_, what does it say |
21:53.30 | dcordes | cr2_, I'm not sure but I think I know what you mean |
21:53.34 | cr2_ | it's in german |
21:54.08 | NetRipper | translate it ;) |
21:54.19 | cr2_ | dcordes: Ratingen asks for money from google for showing it in streetview. as much as i hate this spyware company, it's odd ;) |
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21:55.02 | |Jason8| | then connect your wifi |
21:55.05 | |Jason8| | and plug the phone in |
21:55.11 | dcordes | cr2_, I don't have anything to do with that. |
21:55.16 | cr2_ | lol |
21:55.43 | dcordes | not even remotely |
21:55.47 | cr2_ | NetRipper: let me check. need to switch off haret first |
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21:57.03 | cr2_ | NetRipper: 4th option -> "device companion. manuals and tools" |
21:57.44 | NetRipper | ahhhh awesome |
21:57.54 | NetRipper | on our roms its disabled and there's a registry setting that suggests it |
21:58.18 | NetRipper | my guess is that it enables a hidden "usb stick" with your device manual on it |
21:58.22 | NetRipper | :) |
21:58.22 | Spirits-Sight | OK, is it still possiable to run android off of SD card? |
21:58.26 | Spirits-Sight | kaiser? |
21:58.47 | cr2_ | NetRipper: hm. one more partition ? let me check. |
21:59.09 | NetRipper | yea or maybe some directory that gets exposed |
21:59.10 | NetRipper | dunno :) |
21:59.21 | NetRipper | you might want to dump and put that rom on xda for the cooks :) |
21:59.34 | NetRipper | unless they got it already.. havent been keeping an eye on it |
22:00.13 | cr2_ | NetRipper: the manuals are on the SD |
22:00.24 | NetRipper | alright so just try the companion thing |
22:00.27 | NetRipper | see what happens |
22:00.52 | cr2_ | TFAT_HIDDEN_ROOT_DIR is nounted |
22:00.57 | cr2_ | s/nou/mou/ |
22:01.04 | NetRipper | nice :) |
22:01.13 | cr2_ | Detected machine Leo/QSD8xxx (Plat='PocketPC' OEM='HTC_HD2') |
22:01.15 | cr2_ | CPU is Qualcomm ARM arch 7 stepping 2 running in system mode |
22:01.16 | cr2_ | err |
22:01.18 | NetRipper | lol |
22:01.33 | cr2_ | sprite backup something |
22:01.43 | cr2_ | was wrong paste :) |
22:02.18 | cr2_ | LEO_TMO_DE_SpriteBackup_6.5.3 |
22:02.40 | Spirits-Sight | can we still install the latest on SD for kasier and also where can I find the latest info about android for kaser as androidonhtc seems to be outdated |
22:02.44 | cr2_ | and SetupSpriteBackup |
22:03.41 | cr2_ | NetRipper: the right partition to install linux :) |
22:04.01 | cr2_ | NetRipper: 15MB only |
22:04.37 | NetRipper | lol |
22:05.17 | cr2_ | maybe uboot |
22:07.53 | mickeyl | dcordes: pong |
22:08.25 | Spirits-Sight | does anyone have the instruction for the new process for android on the kaiser? thanks for hte aissistance |
22:09.01 | mickeyl | dcordes: safely back at home? |
22:09.19 | dcordes | mickeyl, yep, hope you too? |
22:09.23 | mickeyl | sure |
22:09.52 | NetRipper | sorry i dont Spirits-Sight.. i think there's a wiki page on the kaiser that might explain some stuff for you and get you going |
22:10.02 | cr2_ | NetRipper: they say navigon is a demo version |
22:10.03 | dcordes | mickeyl, sunday was rather busy for you? didn't see you after your lecture |
22:10.21 | mickeyl | dcordes: yeah, sorry, it was. i had some additional meetings and one more presentation in the embedded room |
22:10.33 | mickeyl | then i left @ 17:00 towards trainstation |
22:10.39 | Spirits-Sight | NetRipper: which wiki these so may different places now |
22:10.40 | NetRipper | Spirits-Sight, like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782 |
22:10.48 | NetRipper | Spirits-Sight, i'm just guessing though |
22:11.06 | mickeyl | dcordes: read my blog entry? |
22:11.22 | dcordes | mickeyl, what was the other talk about? no let me check |
22:11.23 | mickeyl | dcordes: i think we should try to rekickstart mobile-linux mailing list |
22:11.32 | mickeyl | dcordes: OE |
22:13.04 | cr2_ | NetRipper: IRQS IRQ1: SIRC_1(63)=1 ? |
22:13.32 | cr2_ | NetRipper: have you added sirc demux aka IRQ2 ? |
22:13.46 | NetRipper | no |
22:13.54 | cr2_ | NetRipper: any TS touch produces SIRC_1 interrupts |
22:14.01 | NetRipper | you're welcome to write a patch :p |
22:14.08 | cr2_ | ok |
22:14.18 | cr2_ | it should be easy |
22:14.38 | cr2_ | the leds may be on the microP gpios |
22:14.49 | cr2_ | need to check too |
22:15.07 | NetRipper | btw t-mobile's rom had a flashlight tool embedded |
22:15.13 | NetRipper | it can regulate the brightness of the flashlight |
22:15.41 | cr2_ | also microp ? |
22:15.47 | NetRipper | or voltage via amss |
22:16.07 | NetRipper | i think someone disassembled it and came to msm_clk.dll |
22:16.12 | NetRipper | so that sounds like amss |
22:17.08 | cr2_ | ok |
22:17.19 | cr2_ | not very important now |
22:18.00 | dcordes | mickeyl, good idea to use ML. who's that andy green guy and why does he think our projects will die? |
22:18.22 | cr2_ | NetRipper: the qsd patch is not merged into uboot tree ? |
22:18.25 | Spirits-Sight | NetRipper: saddly this also seems to be outdated, the date of the heading is very old and I have been following it for a while and it seem not to be talking much about the updates and so on |
22:18.27 | mickeyl | dcordes: don't bother... just someone who I worked with @ openmoko who hates cross compiling |
22:19.20 | cr2_ | lol |
22:20.02 | cr2_ | mickeyl: he enjoys compiling on the moko phone itself ? |
22:20.08 | tmzt | Spirits-Sight: there is plenty of work, get a new vogue image and current kais kernel |
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22:20.35 | tmzt | mickeyl: nobody has a motorola milestone? |
22:20.58 | cr2_ | tmzt: you need to ask in the US section |
22:21.09 | tmzt | why? |
22:21.15 | tmzt | milestone is eu |
22:21.21 | mickeyl | cr2_: hehe, yeah |
22:21.27 | NetRipper | cr2_, which qsd patch? |
22:21.31 | mickeyl | cr2_: well by now he hates Openmoko, so... |
22:21.34 | Spirits-Sight | tmzt: thats the thing in the past when it was on code.google.com I could find and access wht was needed now its on this other site I don't know where the find the latest kernel, or systems |
22:21.45 | mickeyl | tmzt: hmm, i think playya in #openmoko-cdevel has one |
22:21.56 | tmzt | why don't you ask vogue channel Spirt |
22:22.16 | cr2_ | tmzt: never heard about such phonbe here |
22:22.24 | tmzt | they are very similar to Pre but the baseband interface is just muxed AT |
22:22.35 | tmzt | it's the gsm version of droid/sholes |
22:22.39 | tmzt | omap3 based |
22:22.39 | cr2_ | NetRipper: the uboot patch |
22:23.15 | NetRipper | cr2_, i'm not getting it... which qsd patch? which uboot tree? i can't merge? :) |
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22:23.37 | cr2_ | NetRipper: codeaurora has an ubot patch for 8250 |
22:23.45 | NetRipper | aha |
22:24.26 | cr2_ | NetRipper: long time ago |
22:24.26 | NetRipper | ahh right |
22:24.26 | NetRipper | so what should i do with it? |
22:24.26 | cr2_ | we may patch it too, and try to boot on leo |
22:24.27 | tmzt | think it will chain? |
22:24.33 | cr2_ | but i need to get a better understanding of irq/gpio et al. first |
22:24.45 | tmzt | also, it will probably need serial to be useful |
22:24.46 | dcordes | mickeyl, he prefers android over openmoko? |
22:24.51 | cr2_ | tmzt: why not. |
22:25.15 | tmzt | playya does? |
22:25.37 | tmzt | cr2_:it's very low level |
22:25.40 | cr2_ | NetRipper: you have the decoded gpio numbers for spam ? |
22:25.45 | tmzt | seems to do everything from ram init on |
22:25.47 | NetRipper | no |
22:25.50 | NetRipper | might be microp? |
22:25.56 | tmzt | which is awesome but overkill for a chainloader |
22:26.01 | NetRipper | seems to be some bits wide though |
22:26.06 | Spirits-Sight | tmzt: the android-vogue channel does not have any activity in side it unless I am the wrong room |
22:26.09 | tmzt | seems there's a snapdragon port of lk already |
22:26.19 | cr2_ | NetRipper: wifi/sd ? |
22:26.28 | tmzt | NetRipper: spi? |
22:26.34 | cr2_ | NetRipper: wifi/sd and lcd come to my mind |
22:26.40 | NetRipper | cr2_, yep might be.. but i didnt do anything with wifi/sd, yet it spams like crazy |
22:26.41 | cr2_ | tmzt: spi is 3 pins |
22:26.54 | tmzt | how wide? |
22:26.58 | cr2_ | tmzt: and they are known |
22:27.10 | dcordes | mickeyl, by the way, who were the guys handing handing you business cards right after the freesmartphone.org talk? |
22:27.12 | cr2_ | 17 0x11 0 1c4 SPI_CLK |
22:27.12 | tmzt | hmm, I meant the width of the writes actually |
22:27.14 | cr2_ | 18 0x12 0 1c4 SPI_MOSI |
22:27.15 | cr2_ | 19 0x13 (SPI_MISO) 35MM_KEY_INT_SHUTDOWN |
22:27.26 | tmzt | wide spi usually indicates hardware rather than client on an soc |
22:27.34 | tmzt | 16bit for instance |
22:27.54 | cr2_ | in1-25(313) |
22:28.05 | cr2_ | in1-15(303) |
22:28.48 | cr2_ | NetRipper: these are probably the kpad pins |
22:29.04 | cr2_ | NetRipper: you've killed the bit number column in Leo_GPIO |
22:29.18 | mickeyl | dcordes: CTO of LiMo |
22:29.20 | mickeyl | quite amazing |
22:29.28 | mickeyl | lets hope he contacts me |
22:29.39 | polyrhythmic | hey linux dudes, quick question |
22:29.54 | polyrhythmic | I'm trying to set permissions on a file on my desktop, but it won't take |
22:30.01 | polyrhythmic | I can't chown or chmod them, but I can delete them |
22:30.04 | cr2_ | in5-10(426) |
22:30.15 | polyrhythmic | any guesses why |
22:30.18 | cr2_ | in6-2(450) |
22:30.21 | polyrhythmic | ? I've never seen this before |
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22:31.15 | cr2_ | NetRipper: will you add the bit numbers to wiki ? |
22:31.31 | NetRipper | cr2_, that's just because the bit numbers aren't aligned with the haret bit numbers... as the gpio banks are not in perfect order |
22:31.36 | NetRipper | there's some bytes betweent hem |
22:31.43 | NetRipper | same thing with raphael :p |
22:31.55 | NetRipper | haret seems to count from the first bank up |
22:32.01 | NetRipper | instead of each bank seperately or so |
22:32.08 | cr2_ | NetRipper: hm. strange |
22:32.23 | cr2_ | the numbers are from bank 5 and 6 |
22:32.32 | cr2_ | the bit numbers should be ok |
22:32.42 | cr2_ | the () number is not that interesting |
22:33.03 | cr2_ | ok, i'll add them for 5 and 6 |
22:34.11 | cr2_ | NetRipper: most are marked mfg test, so we know their alt values |
22:34.15 | mickeyl | dcordes cr2_ did you decide on an attack strategy wrt. revitalizing mobile-linux? |
22:34.18 | cr2_ | in theory :) |
22:35.30 | cr2_ | mickeyl: i'll write the portable gpio_alt, dex, vreg and clk driver first. it will cover msm7x01A and qsd8x50 |
22:36.01 | mickeyl | awesome plan |
22:36.06 | mickeyl | msm7x01A will cover which devices exact? |
22:36.07 | cr2_ | mickeyl: nothing needs to be tested here anymore, it's just pure kernel programming |
22:36.33 | cr2_ | mickeyl: g1/adp1 and the raph/diam/blac/topa/rhod |
22:36.44 | mickeyl | cr2_: splendid, good set |
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22:42.58 | dcordes | mickeyl, I don't know. maybe inject epinephrine locally :) we could put a link on htc-linux.org |
22:43.56 | mickeyl | heh |
22:44.00 | mickeyl | ya, worth a try |
22:44.41 | mickeyl | if there are any GNU/Linux interested ones, it might help to post on xda as well... if you think it's worth it |
22:45.48 | dcordes | why not |
22:46.21 | dcordes | the LiMo persons, how can they be of help? |
22:46.47 | mickeyl | LiMo is huge, they have $$$. |
22:46.59 | mickeyl | apparantly they're struggling with their middleware, perhaps that keeps them interested in ours |
22:47.08 | mickeyl | but i have yet to get an answer to my mail |
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22:48.50 | dcordes | mickeyl, they have "limo economic analysis.pdf" |
22:49.24 | mickeyl | that as well |
22:50.04 | dcordes | it's actually interesting |
22:50.35 | cr2_ | NetRipper: add them to haret, looks like lcd-related gpios |
22:51.44 | NetRipper | good idea, you're very welcome to make a patch ;) |
22:52.16 | Markinus | cr2_: hi, do you have I Idea what the problem is when the device isn't waking up on call from sleep (pm 0 and 2 tested)?? Is there a irq comming? |
22:52.18 | NetRipper | i won't be working on leo at least till this weekend |
22:52.31 | dcordes | mickeyl, wondering about ? in "It would cost $?M to develop htc-linux from scratch" |
22:53.39 | Markinus | cr2_: we can call to the device, but it's quite, no message is comming, and nothing of a missed call |
22:53.50 | makkonen | anyone here played with dropbear on android? |
22:56.46 | captnoord | hmmmm |
22:56.56 | captnoord | made me a script do dump all the rpc thingies |
22:57.01 | captnoord | loves ida |
22:57.09 | captnoord | Message( GetFunctionName( x ) + " " + GetRegisterValue(x, "R1") + " " + GetRegisterValue(x, "R2") + " " + GetRegisterValue(x, "R3") + "\n"); |
22:57.10 | captnoord | :D |
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23:01.19 | captnoord | cr2_: wanne have it? |
23:01.24 | captnoord | or should I add it to the wiki |
23:04.15 | dcordes | wiki is always good |
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23:09.45 | cr2_ | Markinus: no idea |
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23:10.45 | cr2_ | NetRipper: 48 0x30 5 I? periodic |
23:10.53 | cr2_ | NetRipper: something new |
23:11.05 | NetRipper | periodic? |
23:11.20 | cr2_ | yes |
23:11.33 | cr2_ | 119.219 GPIOS out2: out2-14(78)=1 |
23:11.35 | cr2_ | 119.219 GPIOS in2: in2-14(334)=1 |
23:11.38 | NetRipper | as in? timer? |
23:11.38 | cr2_ | this is bt power. ok |
23:12.00 | cr2_ | some external signal with about 23 sec period |
23:12.07 | NetRipper | 23 sec hm ok |
23:13.20 | cr2_ | NetRipper: i'll wait a bit more |
23:13.33 | captnoord | is going to messup the wiki... kinda... |
23:13.57 | captnoord | make a 5225 section for the rpc |
23:14.18 | captnoord | now to make my script generate wiki output |
23:15.16 | cr2_ | NetRipper: some strange external signal though |
23:15.48 | cr2_ | NetRipper: no phone related gpios. that's good |
23:16.03 | NetRipper | so no watchdog or so?:P |
23:16.15 | NetRipper | "we'll teach those bastards to boot linux on hd2" |
23:16.20 | cr2_ | NetRipper: all the buttons are matrix keypad |
23:16.27 | cr2_ | LOL |
23:16.44 | NetRipper | ah ok that makes it easy |
23:16.45 | cr2_ | should be easy to write a driver |
23:16.47 | cr2_ | ok |
23:17.01 | tmzt | NetRipper: what did they do? |
23:17.11 | cr2_ | can't check wifi, because of the usb |
23:17.41 | NetRipper | tmzt, nothing.. i was speculating |
23:17.41 | NetRipper | :) |
23:18.05 | cr2_ | tmzt: they said 'no linux on hd2' |
23:18.22 | captnoord | call prog proc msg |
23:18.22 | captnoord | gsdi_get_sim_capabilities 0x30000016 #4 #0 |
23:18.22 | captnoord | gsdi2_enable_fdn 0x30000016 #0x10 #0 |
23:18.22 | captnoord | gsdi2_disable_fdn 0x30000016 #0x11 #0 |
23:18.47 | cr2_ | captnoord: is it used in real life (tm) ? |
23:18.55 | captnoord | yup |
23:18.56 | cr2_ | captnoord: or just the api_*.dll dump ? |
23:19.00 | cr2_ | ok |
23:19.01 | captnoord | hehe |
23:19.07 | captnoord | its api dump |
23:19.08 | captnoord | + |
23:19.11 | cr2_ | :) |
23:19.12 | captnoord | real life check |
23:19.20 | captnoord | I read the value's of the registers |
23:19.45 | captnoord | i'll send you the script when i'm done with the wiki |
23:19.48 | cr2_ | ok |
23:20.57 | cr2_ | omg. sd gpio spam too |
23:21.51 | cr2_ | NetRipper: evil |
23:21.55 | cr2_ | HaRET(172)# ibit irqs 339 340 341 342 343 344 |
23:21.56 | cr2_ | Bit 339 is past max of 63 |
23:22.16 | cr2_ | argh |
23:22.37 | NetRipper | eh? |
23:23.01 | cr2_ | oh. spammed by the cam too |
23:23.10 | cr2_ | bank0 |
23:23.56 | cr2_ | so it's the same as nexus |
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23:26.15 | cr2_ | NetRipper: can i assign a serial port to gps ? |
23:30.29 | NetRipper | uh im not sure what you mean |
23:31.01 | cr2_ | how do i configure gps ? |
23:33.44 | tmzt | sim access is direct? |
23:33.49 | tmzt | uh, on ce? |
23:34.06 | tmzt | you can use the proxy or your program can access the gps port directly |
23:34.54 | tmzt | if those irq bits are worng it's probably something not defined correctly in haret |
23:34.57 | tmzt | like the muxer |
23:35.01 | tmzt | demuxer |
23:42.50 | NetRipper | cr2_, yes, com4 = gps |
23:44.45 | cr2_ | NetRipper: ibit gpios 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 |
23:44.49 | cr2_ | NetRipper: for cam |
23:45.05 | cr2_ | ibit gpios 339 340 341 342 343 344 |
23:45.09 | cr2_ | for SD |
23:46.32 | NetRipper | alright |
23:46.36 | NetRipper | put it on wiki if you would pls :) |
23:49.34 | cr2_ | 7 remappings of dex. hm |
23:50.07 | cr2_ | HaRET(212)# addlist mmutrace 0xae800000 0x100000 |
23:50.12 | cr2_ | crashes wince ;) |
23:50.53 | tmzt | dcordes: you in contact with Marco from #oe ? |
23:53.24 | IceBone | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-8PBx7isoM |
23:54.44 | NetRipper | cr2_, lol, not just haret? |
23:55.19 | cr2_ | NetRipper: wi after that crashes the machine |
23:55.34 | captnoord | cr2_: http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=MSM_RPC |
23:56.38 | cr2_ | NetRipper: com1 com2 BT |
23:56.42 | cr2_ | captnoord: looking |
23:57.30 | cr2_ | NetRipper: com9 ? |
23:57.39 | cr2_ | NetRipper: no gps on com4 |
23:58.05 | NetRipper | its on com4 for me |
23:58.13 | cr2_ | ts sucks ;) |
23:58.15 | NetRipper | arg this rom im using is buggy |
23:58.19 | captnoord | hehe |
23:58.31 | NetRipper | ts? |
23:58.46 | cr2_ | no stylus ;) |
23:58.46 | captnoord | I think he is scrolling down on the wiki |
23:59.00 | NetRipper | ah |
23:59.03 | NetRipper | touchscreen |
23:59.28 | captnoord | <PROTECTED> |
23:59.29 | captnoord | 0x3000000E 0x09, 0xD10CA2DA nv_cmd_remote |
23:59.34 | captnoord | these are the only wierd ones |
23:59.44 | captnoord | and I don't know what |
23:59.45 | captnoord | 0xD10CA2DA |
23:59.45 | captnoord | is |
23:59.51 | captnoord | I guess its a address I know |