| 00:00.25 | Markinus | what is under /etc/wifi? |
| 00:00.47 | adamw | just the wpa_supplicant config file |
| 00:00.55 | Markinus | ahh ok |
| 00:01.02 | adamw | nothing exciting in that |
| 00:01.13 | adamw | i'll upload the files for you, just a sec |
| 00:02.05 | adamw | http://www.happyassassin.net/extras/bcm4329.hcd |
| 00:02.15 | adamw | http://www.happyassassin.net/extras/fw_bcm4329.bin |
| 00:02.20 | adamw | notes that was totally illegal...oh well |
| 00:02.28 | adamw | COME GET ME, BROADCOM |
| 00:02.47 | Markinus | ha! :) thx |
| 00:02.59 | adamw | apparently it's right that all this stuff is 4329 |
| 00:03.04 | adamw | the 4329 driver covers 4325 and 4329 |
| 00:03.54 | Markinus | ok |
| 00:04.35 | adamw | i think someone else (i forget who, could be mrpippy) said sdio registration comes before firmware load so it shouldn't matter...but it doesn't look like that from dhd_linux.c . i dunno, imbw. |
| 00:05.16 | MrPippy | the calibration file is probably stored in nand flash |
| 00:06.02 | MrPippy | if its like tiwlan, calibration is unique per-phone (it has mac address in it), and its in nand flash at an offset that we probably don't know |
| 00:06.24 | adamw | dhd_bus_start does the firmware / calibration loading, dhd_module_init does the sdio registration |
| 00:06.37 | adamw | so i guess it depends which gets called first |
| 00:07.37 | adamw | MrPippy: how did we get the calibrations for other phones? |
| 00:07.58 | Markinus | adamw: we read thios from nand |
| 00:08.02 | MrPippy | someone just dumped theres and its the one distributed with xdandroid |
| 00:08.16 | Markinus | we know what we have ti search there |
| 00:08.19 | adamw | if someone walks me through it i can do the dump from my phone, i guess. |
| 00:08.51 | adamw | but if the sdio registration problem isn't actually because of the firmware/calibration loading i guess we should fix that bit first, heh |
| 00:09.11 | Markinus | we could dump /proc/calibration on a nexus . . |
| 00:09.32 | adamw | i think that may not work |
| 00:09.36 | adamw | the nexus one actually has the BCM4329 |
| 00:09.40 | adamw | so the calibration may not be the same? |
| 00:09.48 | Markinus | meaybe the header |
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| 00:09.54 | Markinus | so we know what we have to find |
| 00:09.58 | adamw | ah, i see |
| 00:10.07 | adamw | i don't know anyone who has a nexus one though, heh |
| 00:10.17 | Markinus | I too . . |
| 00:10.21 | adamw | is trying to find if there's any official android phones with bcm4325 |
| 00:10.33 | Markinus | galaxi |
| 00:10.57 | MrPippy | yeah, dump calibration on the nexus, look at the first few bytes, then search for them in a dump of your nand |
| 00:11.06 | adamw | the samsung one? |
| 00:11.10 | Markinus | samsung Galaxy |
| 00:11.12 | Markinus | yes |
| 00:11.34 | adamw | MrPippy: okay, how do we dump stuff exactly? is there an idiot's guide somewhere? |
| 00:11.46 | adamw | i can probably find someone with a nexus one or galaxy if i try hard enough |
| 00:11.55 | Markinus | dd |
| 00:12.01 | MrPippy | or, the bcm code might check the calibration file first, if it looks for a magic number then we can just search for that |
| 00:12.23 | Markinus | this could be . . . |
| 00:12.33 | MrPippy | yeah, load the mtd modules for nand and dd /dev/mtd0 to a file |
| 00:12.53 | MrPippy | afaik you just don't want the modules loaded while android is running |
| 00:13.45 | adamw | so, what can i do it from? is there a way to get just a boot to a console? or can I do it from haretconsole? |
| 00:14.00 | adamw | i got haretconsole running the other day so if i can do it from there it should be okay |
| 00:14.24 | adamw | looking at the bcm code btw i don't think it does any checks |
| 00:14.28 | MrPippy | pretty sure the only way is from linux |
| 00:15.44 | adamw | http://fpaste.org/irup/ - seems to be the fw/calibration loader |
| 00:15.53 | adamw | it just loads it blindly and poops out if it doesn't work |
| 00:16.17 | adamw | (as far as I can see anyway, heh, imbw again) |
| 00:16.51 | adamw | MrPippy: ah, so what should i boot to have enough running to be able to do the dd? |
| 00:17.48 | Captnoord | lol |
| 00:17.57 | Captnoord | I think its related to the keymap I selected |
| 00:18.13 | Markinus | MrPippy: I cannot find any magic check |
| 00:18.22 | Markinus | its a simply read . . |
| 00:18.31 | adamw | yay markinus agrees with me, i'm probably not wrong :P |
| 00:20.01 | MrPippy | just don't want to boot android, so you'll have to mount rootfs and edit /init to take out the init.android at the bottom |
| 00:20.10 | adamw | oh okay and that'll dump me to the console |
| 00:20.17 | adamw | then i have to hope i can enter enough characters to do the dump, heh |
| 00:20.25 | adamw | > might be tricky |
| 00:20.35 | MrPippy | yeah, or get usbnet and telnet working |
| 00:21.04 | adamw | or wait, i'm being dumb |
| 00:21.09 | adamw | just put the commands in the init script, no? |
| 00:21.17 | adamw | tell it to do the modprobe and then the dd |
| 00:21.39 | MrPippy | i guess you could, it just gets tiring if you don't have it right the first time |
| 00:22.08 | adamw | might be less tiring than making usbnet work, is that complex? as i said earlier, 'ifconfig' already shows a usb0 interface with an ip address but i'm not entirely sure what that means |
| 00:23.47 | makkonen | MrPippy: there's a bunch of rabble in your thread because calibration doesn't work without an update to the kernel. |
| 00:24.02 | MrPippy | heh yeah i just saw that, so calibration is in the latest build and runs automatically? |
| 00:24.17 | adamw | MrPippy: yeah, with a new enough xdandroid image and new enough kernel it all works properly |
| 00:24.28 | makkonen | yeah. finally. |
| 00:24.46 | MrPippy | so i should take my hardcoded |
| 00:24.51 | MrPippy | cal out of eclair.user.conf? |
| 00:25.26 | makkonen | yep |
| 00:25.38 | makkonen | though i don't THINK it breaks anything if it stays there. |
| 00:25.46 | adamw | which of the mtd drivers need to be loaded exactly? is just mtd_blkdevs and mtdblock_ro enough? that looks like the safest combo |
| 00:26.15 | adamw | heh, module author david woodhouse...I know him. |
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| 00:27.20 | Boydell | no you dont |
| 00:27.31 | adamw | eh? |
| 00:27.39 | Boydell | I'm just messing with yah lol |
| 00:27.42 | adamw | hehe |
| 00:28.10 | adamw | MrPippy: okay, well, i'll poke the nand dump later and let you know if i get it. right now i have been in this house for like three days straight, i'm going to go and hit stuff with sticks for a bit |
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| 00:28.24 | MrPippy | hehe good call |
| 00:28.37 | adamw | i'll just do it via the initscript and yell if i get stuck |
| 00:29.19 | Boydell | not sure if yelling helps |
| 00:29.25 | Boydell | your the only one in victoria |
| 00:29.30 | Boydell | :D |
| 00:30.59 | adamw | vancouver :P |
| 00:31.08 | Boydell | w/e |
| 00:31.10 | Boydell | same place |
| 00:32.00 | adamw | hehe |
| 00:34.27 | Boydell | jesus why do apps keep loading without me telling them to!!!!!!! |
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| 00:57.53 | Markinus | adamw: I think I found the nvram file . . |
| 01:01.03 | noisyzen | Markinus: your gsensor and power button fixes are awesome. |
| 01:01.50 | Markinus | :) . . the terrible thing is the sound . . |
| 01:01.56 | noisyzen | Only odd thing is that when my phone goes to sleep, i stop receiving calls - it'll ring for the person calling the entire time but it never wakes my phone up and there's no calls in the log |
| 01:02.20 | Markinus | hmm, I will test it tomorrow . .I know this worked |
| 01:02.21 | noisyzen | Yah, sound would be nice :) But I know you're working on it |
| 01:02.28 | noisyzen | I noticed it on another build, too. |
| 01:02.30 | noisyzen | I forget which one... |
| 01:03.01 | noisyzen | I have finally started making logs of each test run (what files, etc) and results. |
| 01:03.19 | noisyzen | i actually noticed it on monday with one of the older builds. |
| 01:09.29 | Markinus | ohh, great! :) |
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| 01:15.43 | bzo | MrPippy: I found that my diam500 was not stable with the new 2 bank changes until I added the hero smd_tty |
| 01:16.23 | MrPippy | ok |
| 01:16.35 | MrPippy | i'll push that then |
| 01:16.49 | bzo | constant crashes in market |
| 01:17.02 | bzo | now I just downloaded about 10 apps in a row successfully |
| 01:17.15 | noisyzen | yeah :) |
| 01:17.34 | MrPippy | i was gonna ask some other people (maejrep, cr2) what they thought of it, but i've been using it successfully so it can't be too bad |
| 01:18.07 | bzo | what? you need more than 2 data points? hehe |
| 01:18.28 | MrPippy | the version in the desirec code was very similar, but had a giant glaring bug, either they didn't ship that kernel or they use the tty layer very very little |
| 01:18.48 | bzo | I suppose there is not hurry to push it though until you put a new build out |
| 01:18.59 | bzo | helps cdma only, right? |
| 01:19.25 | MrPippy | it's going to affect everyone, but there's nothing cdma specific about it |
| 01:19.50 | MrPippy | i think cdma might be more sensitive about smd channels than the other chips though |
| 01:20.29 | bzo | right, seems like no one else was reporting stability problems |
| 01:21.30 | bzo | I think some people did report some reboots in makkonen's ppc thread, maybe this issue |
| 01:22.02 | MrPippy | yeah |
| 01:22.48 | bzo | so, why is it that the hero doesn't use channels 1 or 7 |
| 01:22.48 | MrPippy | its really stable, i've been running pandora without any problem for the last 20 minutes, usually it would have crashed before one song was done |
| 01:23.15 | MrPippy | all the native android phones use rmnet for data, instead of smd_tty+ppp like we do |
| 01:23.47 | bzo | ah, ok thx |
| 01:23.54 | MrPippy | so we push the tty layer a lot harder than them |
| 01:24.35 | bzo | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:25.47 | MrPippy | yeah |
| 01:26.48 | bzo | wonder under what other circumstance they saw issues, if not data |
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| 01:27.24 | bzo | before the smd_tty change, my setup was actually stable for everything but data |
| 01:28.44 | MrPippy | i think they only use smd_tty for the AT command port, gps, and some other stuff that should be low bandwidth |
| 01:29.11 | bzo | the other interesting thing is that the data transfer rate has gotten better. Apps are downloading much faster now. |
| 01:29.31 | MrPippy | maybe a lot of sms traffic or a fast-refreshing gps stream during heavy cpu load was crashing |
| 01:29.51 | bzo | was stuttering quite a bit before, so maybe it was blocking on full buffers or something |
| 01:30.19 | MrPippy | yeah during a browser speed test i was running top, the tty workqueues were taking 16% of the CPU |
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| 01:32.50 | MrPippy | makkonen: i just pushed a patch for smd_tty that helps stability for us |
| 01:33.17 | Markinus | adamw: Here I made a package for you, http://www.multiupload.com/JEH6YX40O0 I compiled the kernel with the bcm driver as modul. It's better. Replace the zImage, put the other files to sdcard. Then start android, connect via telnet/adb and run: |
| 01:33.20 | MrPippy | i think our biggest stability issue right now is probably turning off wifi |
| 01:33.49 | Markinus | adamw: insmod /sdcard/bcm4325.ko firmware_path=/sdcard/fw_bcm4325.bin nvram_path=/sdcard/nvram.txt |
| 01:34.27 | Markinus | adamw: bcm4329.ko . . |
| 01:35.45 | Markinus | adamw: in the old configuration the kernel try to load the firmware but the filesystem wasn't there . . this couldn't work . . |
| 01:37.38 | bzo | MrPippy: seems like you are pretty much there with the goal you stated a few weeks ago regarding stability and extra memory :) |
| 01:39.28 | MrPippy | heh yeah i think we finally did it |
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| 01:50.06 | noisyzen | quick question - i'm looking at the htc-wiki ... developer quick start guide. It's a bit sparse. I'm a perl developer, but I want to know what resources I should read to learn how to get started working on things... |
| 01:50.11 | noisyzen | ha, maybe it's not a quick question :) |
| 01:57.14 | Markinus | the quastion is, what du you will do? If you will work on the kernel you need C and a bit about the Kernel . . . |
| 01:58.32 | noisyzen | Ok... What are all the options? I know there's apps (which I'm not all that interested in)... I'd like to do something related to getting Android on our phones. :) of course, maybe that's a bit general |
| 02:02.50 | Markinus | :) Kernel or user land, the connection between kernel - android |
| 02:03.14 | noisyzen | user land seems interesting. |
| 02:04.08 | Markinus | there a many configuration files in the rootfs.img / system.sqsh |
| 02:04.19 | noisyzen | yeah i unpacked those last night and was digging around in them. |
| 02:04.49 | Markinus | e.g. Wha does Bluetooth working on 1.6 but not on 2.01 .. where is the difference . . |
| 02:05.00 | noisyzen | right... i find that very interesting. |
| 02:06.39 | noisyzen | i'm assuming that maybe the android developer's guide over at developer.android.com would probably be a good place to start? |
| 02:08.38 | Markinus | test it if you like it I think this is a bit different from dev to dev, what we find intresting what not! :) There are much informations .. |
| 02:09.11 | noisyzen | yeah, what are the best sources for information? it's daunting to read 300 posts on forums. :) |
| 02:09.34 | Markinus | so, time to sleep . . good night! |
| 02:09.41 | noisyzen | good night :) |
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| 02:36.24 | Boydell | was off playin a game :) |
| 02:36.26 | Boydell | anything new? |
| 02:53.09 | noisyzen | not that i know of. messing around with different kernels and rootfs.imgs and system.sqshs and stuff |
| 02:53.18 | noisyzen | trying to see if i can find the magic combo for my phone |
| 02:53.32 | Boydell | ehhh |
| 02:53.39 | Boydell | its that girl from last night? |
| 02:54.25 | noisyzen | yup :) |
| 02:54.28 | noisyzen | it's that girl from last night :P |
| 02:54.33 | Boydell | haha |
| 02:54.36 | Boydell | what you have ? |
| 02:54.43 | noisyzen | htc topaz (at&t pure) |
| 02:54.53 | Boydell | hm no clue then |
| 02:54.56 | noisyzen | heehee |
| 02:55.09 | Boydell | I have some idea with the Raph and Diam, but not that one |
| 02:55.26 | noisyzen | had a 1.6 build on earlier that was working great except once the phone went to sleep it's like my phone went off the network |
| 02:55.29 | noisyzen | no incoming calls |
| 02:55.37 | noisyzen | every once in a while a voice mail icon would appear |
| 02:55.38 | Boydell | ah |
| 02:55.43 | Boydell | 1.6 is shit |
| 02:55.45 | noisyzen | kinda screwy |
| 02:55.52 | noisyzen | thing is, same thing happened on monday with 2.0.1 |
| 02:56.11 | Boydell | hm |
| 02:56.26 | noisyzen | so, i'm about to diff files and see if i can see anything obvious |
| 02:56.28 | noisyzen | learning by doing i suppose |
| 02:56.47 | Boydell | the 02.0.2 package doesnt work for you? |
| 02:57.00 | Boydell | ***02.02 |
| 02:57.05 | noisyzen | i pretty much have that. |
| 02:57.09 | noisyzen | gosh what did i jsut put on there... |
| 02:57.10 | Boydell | from XDANDROID |
| 02:57.12 | noisyzen | 02.02 |
| 02:57.17 | Boydell | thats the only build I know of.. |
| 02:57.47 | noisyzen | and then kernel 20100204_030416 |
| 02:57.54 | noisyzen | the stuff with that kernel from msm |
| 02:58.06 | Boydell | bah |
| 02:58.09 | noisyzen | bah? :) |
| 02:58.10 | Boydell | not a clue with your phone |
| 02:58.12 | noisyzen | hehehehehe |
| 02:58.21 | noisyzen | the gsensor worked on 1.6 earlier. |
| 02:58.29 | noisyzen | i see the changelog i think has the gsensor fix. |
| 02:58.40 | Boydell | dont know lol |
| 02:58.43 | noisyzen | i'm not sure if the phone thing comes from user land or if it comes frmo the kernel |
| 02:58.46 | Boydell | the gsensor on mine is wacky |
| 02:58.49 | Boydell | turned it off |
| 02:59.07 | noisyzen | as in the phone buzzing/not buzzing part |
| 02:59.16 | noisyzen | i say buzzing since there's no external sound on me phone |
| 02:59.17 | noisyzen | lol |
| 02:59.39 | Boydell | buxzzing? |
| 02:59.46 | Boydell | the hell are you talking about |
| 03:00.23 | noisyzen | you know, phone on vibrate mode? |
| 03:00.27 | Boydell | oh |
| 03:00.31 | noisyzen | i can't say ringing |
| 03:00.32 | noisyzen | since it doesn't ring |
| 03:00.38 | Boydell | i dont know if it works on yours |
| 03:00.58 | noisyzen | well, ext. sound does not. but, when i first turn on the phone, i get calls. then it goes to sleep, and no more calls will come through |
| 03:01.11 | Boydell | thats weird |
| 03:01.16 | noisyzen | called it earlier today from land line and just kept ringing and ringing... went to voice mail... looked on phone, no missed calls, nothin' |
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| 03:02.39 | Boydell | thats weird |
| 03:02.40 | noisyzen | yeah |
| 03:02.45 | Boydell | No one calls me, so I dunno haha |
| 03:02.47 | noisyzen | haha |
| 03:02.48 | noisyzen | yeah |
| 03:02.55 | noisyzen | i looked and my phone had a voice mail icon on it |
| 03:03.05 | Boydell | On ours, we have to call out first before launching haret for the mic to work |
| 03:03.07 | Boydell | I never too |
| 03:03.08 | Boydell | *doo |
| 03:03.10 | noisyzen | so, i called my phone and didn't feel it ring... |
| 03:03.11 | Boydell | too lazy |
| 03:03.12 | noisyzen | oh wow. |
| 03:03.20 | Boydell | yah |
| 03:03.25 | Boydell | pain in the arse |
| 03:03.27 | noisyzen | yeah |
| 03:03.42 | Boydell | more motavation to keep it on all the time and not reboot |
| 03:03.51 | noisyzen | haha yeah. |
| 03:03.57 | Boydell | but every morning i always find it booted back into winmo |
| 03:04.01 | noisyzen | weird. |
| 03:04.18 | noisyzen | do you know which files are donut/eclair specific? as in, rootfs.img? system.sqsh? |
| 03:04.19 | Boydell | very. Im hoping with some of the latest mem stuff it fixes that |
| 03:04.25 | Boydell | erm |
| 03:04.26 | noisyzen | i know the zImage and the modules can go either way |
| 03:04.27 | Boydell | both |
| 03:04.29 | noisyzen | okay |
| 03:04.33 | Boydell | I think |
| 03:04.37 | noisyzen | yeah I think you are right |
| 03:06.47 | noisyzen | part of me wishes i didn't find out that i could run android on my phone. |
| 03:06.52 | noisyzen | now it's taking up all of my time lol |
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| 03:07.42 | Boydell | guh shitty internet |
| 03:08.22 | noisyzen | ack |
| 03:08.36 | noisyzen | i had said part of me wishes i didn't find out that i could run android on my phone. |
| 03:08.40 | noisyzen | now it's taking up all of my time lol |
| 03:09.03 | Boydell | haha |
| 03:09.17 | Boydell | I've been following the devolopment for about a year |
| 03:09.27 | Boydell | just in the last 2 months i decided to try and contribute |
| 03:13.04 | noisyzen | oh wow nice. |
| 03:13.06 | noisyzen | what are you doing? |
| 03:13.20 | Boydell | trying to understand wtf is going on most of the time ahha |
| 03:14.10 | noisyzen | hehehe |
| 03:14.12 | noisyzen | how are you contributing? |
| 03:14.16 | noisyzen | i've been wanting to do that. |
| 03:14.20 | noisyzen | contribute, that is. |
| 03:14.31 | noisyzen | it's my bedtime so going to sleep soon and not articulating well. lol |
| 03:14.46 | Boydell | well I dont know much about the linux kernal which make it tough |
| 03:14.53 | Boydell | but most of the phones are GSM |
| 03:15.09 | Boydell | so when it comes time to compiling to the CDMA stuff, it will bugger up |
| 03:15.14 | noisyzen | ahhh |
| 03:15.15 | noisyzen | gotcha |
| 03:15.20 | Boydell | so right now I just try and track down why |
| 03:15.28 | noisyzen | ah okay |
| 03:15.42 | Boydell | there is alot of stuff I dont understand |
| 03:15.45 | noisyzen | whee. now syncing in winmo doesn't work. (active sync) |
| 03:16.03 | Boydell | active sync is useless |
| 03:16.12 | Boydell | it works sometimes and doesnt other days |
| 03:16.49 | noisyzen | it was working for me |
| 03:17.21 | noisyzen | hm. so looks like the gsensor stuff and being able to turn off power that i had in 1.6 is now not working with 2.0.2 and the kernel i'm using. |
| 03:17.29 | noisyzen | oh well. i'm tired. |
| 03:17.35 | noisyzen | another 6:30am wake up |
| 03:17.40 | noisyzen | so gotta go to sleep. |
| 03:17.51 | Boydell | yah i think the gsensor for eclair is on its way |
| 03:17.54 | noisyzen | tomorrow i'd like to hear how you're tracking stuff down |
| 03:17.57 | Boydell | anyways, later |
| 03:18.04 | noisyzen | i know markinus got the gsensor working |
| 03:18.14 | noisyzen | on donut |
| 03:18.14 | Boydell | some of the debug tools your mean |
| 03:18.15 | Boydell | ? |
| 03:18.16 | noisyzen | yeah |
| 03:18.19 | Boydell | ah ok |
| 03:18.20 | noisyzen | i gotta go to sleep, but yeah |
| 03:18.23 | Boydell | adb is a good one |
| 03:18.25 | noisyzen | tomorrow night if you're around |
| 03:18.30 | Boydell | i prob will be lol |
| 03:18.34 | noisyzen | lol okay sounds good |
| 03:18.37 | noisyzen | i probably will be too |
| 03:18.38 | Boydell | aight later |
| 03:18.44 | noisyzen | this stupid phone is taking away all my sleep and time! :) |
| 03:18.49 | noisyzen | have a good night eh :) |
| 03:18.52 | Boydell | ha |
| 03:19.00 | Boydell | you too |
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| 03:19.05 | noisyzen | night :) |
| 03:19.08 | Boydell | night |
| 03:58.53 | adamw | ooooh |
| 03:59.02 | adamw | i think i have something that could help for the bcm4325 |
| 03:59.16 | adamw | the lg gw620 seems to have the bcm4325, and the source for that is available... |
| 03:59.19 | adamw | goes pokey poking |
| 03:59.35 | Boydell | haha |
| 03:59.35 | Boydell | nice |
| 04:00.01 | adamw | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5312665 is a definite keeper |
| 04:02.04 | Boydell | is this for your wifi chip? |
| 04:02.52 | adamw | yeah |
| 04:03.18 | adamw | so far we've been trying to use the bcm4329 driver ripped from the nexus one |
| 04:03.26 | adamw | which claims, in the source, to support the bcm4325 as well |
| 04:03.35 | adamw | but the gw620 seems to have its own (version of) the driver |
| 04:03.41 | Boydell | bo |
| 04:03.43 | Boydell | *boo |
| 04:03.43 | adamw | so i'ma take a look at that |
| 04:03.48 | adamw | MrPippy: still around? |
| 04:04.38 | adamw | hey, one of the gw620 guys is in vancouver too |
| 04:04.45 | adamw | maybe I can yank him in to look at my phone, heh |
| 04:05.18 | Boydell | lmao |
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| 04:10.39 | adamw | hmm, the 620 driver may just be an earlier version of bcm4325 - but at least we might find good firmware and calibration in their root image... |
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| 04:26.05 | adamw | okay, so since I know people read logs: |
| 04:26.38 | adamw | the source code for teh LG GW620, which has the bcm4325 that's in rhodium (and a couple other htc models), is at http://depositfiles.com/files/zibqndg0g |
| 04:26.54 | adamw | the system files for the GW620 are at http://depositfiles.com/en/files/uygt3aqx0 |
| 04:27.30 | adamw | the system files contain etc/wl/nvram.txt , etc/wl/rtecdc.bin , etc/wl/rtecdc-mfgtest.bin and bin/BCM4325D0_004.001.007.0168.0169.hcd (I have no idea what that is) |
| 04:29.15 | adamw | the kernel source contains kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm4325 |
| 04:29.29 | adamw | which looks like possibly an earlier version of the driver that's now known as bcm4329 in the nexus one source, but i'll confirm that |
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| 04:31.36 | stinebd | firmware maybe? |
| 04:43.22 | tmzt | is N the only lacking feature? |
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| 04:52.42 | adamw | stinebd: the rtecdc.bin should be the firmware |
| 04:52.54 | adamw | stinebd: the mfgtest is probably an alternative firmware |
| 04:53.02 | adamw | nvram.txt should be the 'calibration' data |
| 04:53.10 | adamw | but the BCM4325blahblah i don't know what that is. |
| 04:56.32 | adamw | looks like it's essentially the same driver but the gw620 version is quite different |
| 04:57.00 | adamw | the gw620 is versioned 4.217.27.0 , the bcm4329 from n1 is versioned 4.218.161.0 |
| 04:57.06 | adamw | they have rather different layouts... |
| 04:57.11 | adamw | now to see if I can make this build, heh. |
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| 05:05.27 | MrPippy | haha wow i was just talking about that phone last night with randomblame |
| 05:05.46 | MrPippy | i should grab that source to see if it maybe uses a wince-style amss |
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| 05:09.33 | adamw | MrPippy: awesome you're there. i'm seeing if i can dump the source for this version of the driver into our tree and build it and see how that goes |
| 05:10.39 | adamw | MrPippy: even though it's an earlier version, it may work better I guess. I did notice the gw620 people are trying to get 2.6.29 working and the wireless isn't working, presumably they're using that driver code |
| 05:10.49 | adamw | so perhaps somehow that code's better for 2.6.27, and the n1 code is better for 2.6.29... |
| 05:11.21 | adamw | MrPippy: I guess we could look at their board- code too |
| 05:11.48 | adamw | MrPippy: the posts around http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5312665 have a list of changed files in the lg code. |
| 05:13.59 | MrPippy | yeah, this should be a really interesting tree |
| 05:14.17 | MrPippy | i already see a bunch of changes in msm_touch, i guess they're using the onboard resistive controller |
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| 05:16.52 | adamw | hey, joee. |
| 05:18.42 | adamw | MrPippy: arch/arm/mach-msm/board-adam.c seems to have the control gpio |
| 05:18.54 | MrPippy | yeah |
| 05:19.03 | MrPippy | you can find the control gpio on your phone pretty easy with haret |
| 05:19.28 | adamw | i think you put what should be the right one in the msm tree already though, right? or was that a guess? |
| 05:19.33 | adamw | i can do the haret test if that'd help |
| 05:19.38 | adamw | just lemme know what to do |
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| 05:20.27 | babijoee | yo guys |
| 05:21.31 | adamw | babijoee: http://www.happyassassin.net/keymaps/current/ has a keymap for the non-tilt2 rhodiums, if you're interested |
| 05:21.44 | adamw | babijoee: (and an init with a little bit of added code to load it, same as for tilt2) |
| 05:22.03 | adamw | it's labelled rhod210 but it's close enough for most rhodiums except the oddball azertys etc. |
| 05:22.55 | MrPippy | there's a gpio in the board- file already, i'd assume thats the one |
| 05:23.21 | adamw | well it has a todo on it. |
| 05:24.21 | adamw | /TODO: use platform data |
| 05:24.26 | MrPippy | yeah i think thats just because doing in the board- file isn't real clean, it'd be better to put it with all the other wifi gpio stuff in mmc.c |
| 05:24.53 | babijoee | adamw: where are the fiels? |
| 05:24.56 | babijoee | files* |
| 05:25.08 | babijoee | opps |
| 05:25.08 | babijoee | nvm |
| 05:25.28 | babijoee | i'll add em now |
| 05:25.36 | adamw | babijoee: just needs the rhod210* files to go to init.etc/keymaps and the change from init to go into xdandroid's init. |
| 05:25.43 | babijoee | yeah i know |
| 05:25.49 | babijoee | are you able to test it? |
| 05:25.56 | adamw | babijoee: a few people have |
| 05:26.02 | babijoee | confirmed working? |
| 05:26.08 | adamw | babijoee: yeah |
| 05:26.10 | babijoee | okay |
| 05:26.16 | babijoee | i'll add them now |
| 05:26.27 | adamw | see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627997 - it's in that build already |
| 05:26.44 | adamw | that's the new thread for rhodium android (yeah, like we didn't have enough already, heh) |
| 05:26.59 | adamw | reefermattness started that one so the first couple of posts would be owned by active people who can update 'em. |
| 05:28.51 | stinebd | babijoee: if you're interested, i've got a conceptual start at a rootfs git (if it ever becomes useful) http://gitorious.org/xdandroid-eclair/eclair-rootfs |
| 05:29.10 | stinebd | it gets complicated with git involved because you have to reset all the perms when you roll it up |
| 05:29.21 | stinebd | thems the breaks i suppose |
| 05:29.33 | adamw | you could script that? |
| 05:29.39 | stinebd | yeah |
| 05:30.01 | stinebd | see the scripts dir for some rudimentary stuff |
| 05:30.16 | adamw | nice |
| 05:30.25 | adamw | i'll take a look when i've failed hideously with this wireless stuff, heh |
| 05:31.45 | babijoee | so i see rhod and tilt2 |
| 05:31.50 | babijoee | which one am i meant to use? |
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| 05:32.07 | stinebd | rhod for wwe rhod, tilt2 for att rhod? |
| 05:32.19 | babijoee | okay |
| 05:32.23 | babijoee | i'll just implement both |
| 05:32.36 | adamw | babijoee: the tilt2 stuff is in already |
| 05:32.59 | adamw | babijoee: leob added it to the new build he did |
| 05:33.08 | adamw | just the rhod210 isn't in yet |
| 05:33.11 | babijoee | ooo |
| 05:33.13 | babijoee | thanks |
| 05:33.30 | adamw | tilt 2 has a completely different layout from other rhodiums which is why you need two - same deal as with the fuze from the last gen |
| 05:33.37 | adamw | at&t still addicted to their weird layouts... |
| 05:33.39 | stinebd | last gen :( |
| 05:33.42 | stinebd | my fuze feels so old |
| 05:33.53 | adamw | sorry stine |
| 05:33.58 | adamw | sorry stine's fuze :) |
| 05:35.03 | stinebd | i think someone broke the extra mem bank |
| 05:35.21 | adamw | someone landed a big commit which is meant to enable it by default for all phones that can handle it |
| 05:35.34 | adamw | that could be it |
| 05:35.40 | stinebd | phh |
| 05:35.47 | stinebd | but i don't see any obvious reason why it would be broken from that commit |
| 05:39.22 | makkonen | live wallpapers are super dumb. but pretty cool, too. |
| 05:39.27 | stinebd | heh |
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| 05:40.24 | MrPippy | is bank2 broken for someone? |
| 05:40.33 | stinebd | me atm |
| 05:40.43 | stinebd | at least i think it's the bank |
| 05:40.46 | makkonen | MrPippy: can I get a copy of your latest .config? I assume I've got something building that's causing problems with power collapse. |
| 05:41.20 | stinebd | i'm bisecting now |
| 05:42.24 | MrPippy | yeah heres mine http://pastebin.com/m7c520cef |
| 05:42.30 | MrPippy | stinebd: what happens? |
| 05:42.31 | makkonen | thanks |
| 05:42.44 | stinebd | MrPippy: freezes in the home screen some minutes after boot |
| 05:43.40 | MrPippy | hmm and its stable with 1 bank? |
| 05:44.08 | stinebd | it was stable with 2 banks before today |
| 05:44.17 | randomblame | hmm every time I try to compile my kernel for amss version 6225, board-htcraphael-gps.c throws up errors |
| 05:44.36 | stinebd | crap i was touching the navipad |
| 05:44.42 | babijoee | anyone here confirm tilt2 kb working? |
| 05:45.21 | stinebd | anyway, i'm testing now, i'll let you know for sure if it's the extra bank |
| 05:45.47 | adamw | babijoee: yeah, i test that one myself |
| 05:45.51 | adamw | babijoee: i use it every day, heh |
| 05:45.56 | randomblame | is there anyway to quickly disable the raph gps driver or do I have to go through and cut it out of everything |
| 05:45.57 | adamw | babijoee: reefermattness uses it too. |
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| 05:46.29 | stinebd | raph gps driver? |
| 05:46.32 | babijoee | okay |
| 05:46.56 | randomblame | yeah it throws up errors when I compile my kernel for any amss version other than 5200 |
| 05:47.08 | adamw | babijoee: just make sure the permissions on the files are okay, leob broke them at first and that makes apps crash as soon as you press a key, hehe |
| 05:47.12 | randomblame | I could care less about gps at this point |
| 05:48.06 | babijoee | adamw: are they doing that now? |
| 05:48.08 | MrPippy | randomblame: did you add amss 6225 into our tree or something? its not an option |
| 05:48.20 | adamw | babijoee: i've lost track of all the xdandroid revs, I believe he fixed it todayt |
| 05:48.22 | babijoee | i never had problems with permission b4 |
| 05:48.26 | MrPippy | ~seen titanmkd |
| 05:48.27 | apt | titanmkd <n=aa@vaf26-4-88-176-72-126.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 55d 6h 49m ago, saying: 'and thanks for reply to my questions ;)'. |
| 05:48.27 | randomblame | orly? then why is it in the defconfig and kconfig |
| 05:48.33 | babijoee | where is the fix? |
| 05:48.47 | adamw | babijoee: just need to be sure the keymap files are world readable |
| 05:48.58 | randomblame | I'm working off the msm 2.6.27 branch |
| 05:49.15 | adamw | babijoee: when leo first added tilt2 he had the .kcm.bin file as 711 (rwx--x--x) and that don't work |
| 05:49.24 | babijoee | ooo |
| 05:49.29 | babijoee | well i'll upload new one |
| 05:49.33 | babijoee | let me know if it works |
| 05:49.37 | adamw | i'll check |
| 05:49.37 | babijoee | anyone here with rhod210? |
| 05:49.44 | babijoee | you have that device too? |
| 05:49.56 | adamw | no, but i can boot with that keymap and check it behaves as it should |
| 05:50.04 | adamw | the physical keys are all the same they're just mapped totally differently |
| 05:50.12 | adamw | so i just check the keys behave as if my phone was a rhod210, heh |
| 05:50.20 | babijoee | ooo |
| 05:50.27 | babijoee | okay also let me know if its any smoother |
| 05:50.47 | adamw | http://www.wmexperts.com/sites/wmexperts.com/files/articleimages/George%20Ponder/2009/10/Tilt%202%20keyboard.jpg is a tilt2 |
| 05:50.50 | adamw | http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2009/08/t-mobile-touch-pro2-review-10.jpg is a typical rhodium |
| 05:50.54 | babijoee | can't remember who told me |
| 05:50.54 | adamw | same keys, different labels :) |
| 05:50.58 | adamw | will do |
| 05:51.06 | adamw | smoother than what, though? i'm already on a build from yesterday |
| 05:51.47 | stinebd | is this about cpufreq? |
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| 05:53.12 | babijoee | tilt2 = rhodium right? |
| 05:53.24 | adamw | yeah it's a variant rhodium |
| 05:53.29 | babijoee | ooo |
| 05:53.32 | adamw | looks slightly different, and the different key layout |
| 05:53.36 | adamw | hardware's all the same, though. |
| 05:53.38 | babijoee | so it needs a new folder in startup config right |
| 05:53.55 | stinebd | it has ptt too :> |
| 05:54.00 | stinebd | i think |
| 05:54.12 | adamw | stinebd: yeah, it has that. |
| 05:54.16 | adamw | not that i ever used it, heh. |
| 05:54.22 | stinebd | probably not mapped in the kernel yet |
| 05:54.38 | adamw | it acts like pressing the e key |
| 05:54.44 | adamw | *exactly* like pressing the e key |
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| 05:54.49 | babijoee | uhh |
| 05:54.50 | adamw | so, not super-useful |
| 05:54.50 | stinebd | haha wow |
| 05:55.02 | randomblame | damn virtual box booted me again |
| 05:55.18 | adamw | babijoee: it needs its own startup config, yeah. it needs to have the physkeyboard=tilt2 parameter. |
| 05:55.20 | stinebd | let me look through the board to see how it might be handled |
| 05:55.27 | babijoee | bah i'm confused :p |
| 05:55.42 | adamw | babijoee: ok, let's take it from the top :p |
| 05:55.44 | randomblame | mr.pippy what amss versions are supported on the msm 2.6.27 branch? I wonder why 6225 left as an option in the config |
| 05:55.48 | babijoee | okay |
| 05:55.51 | randomblame | probably just to annoy |
| 05:56.02 | babijoee | rhodium = |
| 05:56.11 | MrPippy | oh yeah it is there, i don't know if we have any phones that use 6225 |
| 05:56.27 | randomblame | maybe thats' why it's broken lol |
| 05:56.29 | adamw | babijoee: rhodium is the htc codename for all Touch Pro 2 and Tilt 2 |
| 05:56.38 | babijoee | ah k |
| 05:56.52 | babijoee | so majority will use which layout |
| 05:56.56 | adamw | babijoee: the Tilt 2 is AT&Ts version with a different keyboard layout, a shiny shiny chrome surround, and a ptt button |
| 05:56.58 | adamw | babijoee: rhod210 for sure |
| 05:57.05 | adamw | tilt2 is *only* for the at&t variant |
| 05:57.06 | babijoee | okay |
| 05:57.07 | babijoee | got it |
| 05:57.27 | stinebd | adamw: have you tried using haret to see what the ptt button does in winmo? |
| 05:57.31 | babijoee | so i have a rhodium and tilt2 folder |
| 05:57.36 | adamw | stinebd: hadn't got to it yet |
| 05:57.41 | adamw | babijoee: sounds good |
| 05:57.46 | babijoee | okay |
| 05:58.03 | adamw | stinebd: on android with getevent, it emits three events on press and three on release |
| 05:58.13 | adamw | stinebd: one of the three is totally empty - all zeroes |
| 05:58.18 | stinebd | adamw: that's a sync event |
| 05:58.22 | stinebd | ignore it |
| 05:58.34 | adamw | stinebd: the second event is a keyboard event, which is exactly the same as pressing e on the keyboard |
| 05:58.43 | stinebd | first event is also useless |
| 05:58.49 | adamw | a keycode (I forget which, but the same one), and value 00000001 for press and 00000000 for release |
| 05:59.00 | stinebd | but anyway, it's the kernel's job to differentiate it from the e key |
| 05:59.03 | stinebd | so geteven won't be helpful |
| 05:59.08 | adamw | the first event is a 'generic' event or something, and that's different between the ptt button and the e key. |
| 05:59.09 | adamw | ah, k. |
| 05:59.17 | adamw | i shall annoy markinus again then |
| 05:59.24 | adamw | and tell him it's all his fault :P |
| 05:59.33 | adamw | the up arrow and left arrow key have the same problem, they give the same eventcode |
| 05:59.41 | stinebd | really? |
| 05:59.43 | adamw | yup |
| 05:59.54 | adamw | all other buttons / keys are unique, but those two pairs |
| 05:59.55 | babijoee | okay all done |
| 06:00.00 | adamw | babijoee: thanks! |
| 06:00.01 | babijoee | i'll upload new pack soon |
| 06:00.11 | adamw | k, i'll check it all worked out okay |
| 06:00.16 | babijoee | thanks |
| 06:00.52 | adamw | stinebd: what could I check in haret? i can do that if it'd help. |
| 06:01.25 | stinebd | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET_20Documentation |
| 06:01.36 | stinebd | use haret console and see the polling gpios section on that page |
| 06:02.09 | adamw | k |
| 06:02.13 | stinebd | it's pretty much a matter of filtering out all the output until you square in on the data you get when pressing the button |
| 06:04.08 | mcdull | babijoee: could you modify the config file so that ADB could be enabled by default? |
| 06:04.19 | babijoee | it is mcdull |
| 06:04.26 | stinebd | usb must be plugged in at boot |
| 06:04.48 | babijoee | afaik thats the only way right |
| 06:05.15 | mcdull | yes.. but the driver couldn't be loaded properly in windows right now. |
| 06:05.25 | mcdull | need to change the usb to single ADB interface. |
| 06:05.48 | babijoee | mcdull hmm i dunno about windows :p |
| 06:05.56 | babijoee | it works perfectly in linux :) |
| 06:06.23 | adamw | stinebd: seems to be http://fpaste.org/xV8n/ |
| 06:06.54 | makkonen | has power collapse stopped causing the LEDs to breathe since the changes were pushed to allow userspace to access them? |
| 06:06.59 | stinebd | adamw: can you compare that with something like voldown? and then defer to someone who knows more about the kernel stuff :D |
| 06:06.59 | mcdull | echo 2 > /sys/devices/platform/msm_hsusb/usb_function_switch |
| 06:07.13 | mcdull | add this one to conf would fix the problem. |
| 06:07.20 | adamw | stinebd: sure |
| 06:07.26 | mcdull | custom shell command. |
| 06:07.52 | makkonen | probably better to add it in the /init script. less messy. |
| 06:08.21 | mcdull | yes I think so. but I am afraid that this may break the adb function for non-windows user. |
| 06:08.28 | adamw | uhh that's fun |
| 06:08.38 | adamw | the PTT button's gpio output really looks like the e key |
| 06:08.58 | makkonen | shouldn't break adb for anyone -- might break usbnet, though. |
| 06:09.03 | adamw | stinebd: http://fpaste.org/GFOQ/ |
| 06:09.06 | randomblame | argh dex hates me |
| 06:09.14 | makkonen | adamw: it wouldn't need debugging if it were easy. |
| 06:09.20 | adamw | makkonen: :P |
| 06:10.45 | adamw | yeah, they're the frickin' same. huh. |
| 06:11.03 | adamw | makkonen: did you see the stuff about the lg gw620 source tree I found btw? seems to have another version of the driver for bcm4325 |
| 06:11.21 | adamw | and that one actually has the 4325, not 4329 like n1 |
| 06:11.25 | adamw | anyhoo. |
| 06:11.34 | makkonen | I did see that. It's pretty far outside my realm of expertise. |
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| 06:11.54 | stinebd | crazy att with their nonsense keypads |
| 06:11.59 | makkonen | there seems to be a rumor going around that I know what the hell I'm doing. I should probably disabuse anyone of that notion. |
| 06:12.14 | stinebd | makkonen: welcome to the club. i'm member #1 |
| 06:12.17 | adamw | makkonen: you can't possibly know what you're doing any less than I do |
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| 06:12.31 | makkonen | stinebd: yeah. see, I totally had the impression you knew what you were doing. |
| 06:12.41 | adamw | stinebd: i think now the only mystery is why the frickin' ptt button doesn't type an 'e' in winmo :) |
| 06:12.56 | bzo | makkonen: when phh moved the led stuff to userspace, i believe the sleep breathe got disabled until the new userspace app is created |
| 06:13.14 | bzo | if you monitor adb logcat, you can see when it goes in and out of sleep |
| 06:13.23 | mcdull | do anyone has an idea on how to debug a blackstone which don't wake (it is actually functioning but failed to wake the touch screen) |
| 06:13.35 | makkonen | ok. because everything looks like power collapse is working, but not breathing LEDs. |
| 06:13.46 | adamw | well, let's see if the up and left arrows look different anyway. sigh. |
| 06:14.06 | makkonen | bzo: adb. don't talk to me about adb. |
| 06:14.07 | makkonen | sobs |
| 06:14.07 | bzo | hehe |
| 06:14.14 | bzo | mcdull: setting adb to single interface breaks it for linux. |
| 06:14.48 | makkonen | oh. ok. I was wrong. |
| 06:15.33 | leobaillard | hi there ! what did I miss ? |
| 06:15.36 | mcdull | bzo: oh really. So it is difficult... I remember with an old kernel, it has ADB composite interface and windows works well. However, later kernels broke it. |
| 06:16.02 | makkonen | gah. windows sees the device. when I disconnect and reconnect, it shows up in the device manager like a totally reasonable thing. but adb devices shows nothing. Just like the old days. It worked for like 4 days. |
| 06:16.12 | bzo | MrPippy looked at the adb source, it expects a multi interface for some reason |
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| 06:16.25 | adamw | oh. well in a way this makes more sense. apparently all you get on *any* keypress is that same GPIOS(6) change |
| 06:16.34 | mcdull | makkonen, add this line to config. echo 2 > /sys/devices/platform/msm_hsusb/usb_function_switch |
| 06:16.43 | adamw | it's always 92e00c20=07b45006 (00000800) then 92e00c20=07b45806 (00000800) , whatever the key. still, doesn't help a lot. |
| 06:16.44 | makkonen | MrPippy: you had a fix for adb... did it ever get pushed to the main tree? |
| 06:17.08 | makkonen | mcdull: shouldn't be necessary. I already disabled everything but adb for usb_functions |
| 06:17.19 | adamw | stinebd: what's your NEXT bright idea, huh, mister? :) |
| 06:17.22 | makkonen | goes to check that that is actually true. |
| 06:17.52 | MrPippy | at the moment, the xdandroid init and eclair.user.conf don't set usb_function_switch, so it should be usbnet+adb by default |
| 06:17.54 | makkonen | ...that is no longer true. |
| 06:17.56 | stinebd | adamw: watch irqs :D |
| 06:18.01 | mcdull | makkonen: but I can always to adb with no problem. |
| 06:18.13 | adamw | stinebd: oh, you actually had one. I wanted a snappy comeback, not useful and productive advice, damnit :) |
| 06:18.24 | stinebd | that's a mix of both |
| 06:18.54 | adamw | nothing on irqs, for ptt button or keyboard keys. |
| 06:19.10 | makkonen | there's no < or > on the keyboard, is there? stupid non-posix-friendly smartphone; what were they thinking? |
| 06:19.38 | MrPippy | a keyboard without SysRq? have they gone mad? |
| 06:19.59 | stinebd | and no any key |
| 06:20.05 | makkonen | I don't see any any key |
| 06:20.38 | randomblame | MrPippy do you know of a method of getting amss version and possibly dex memory address through a haret dump? |
| 06:21.03 | mcdull | the implementation with the composite ADB function in this kernel seems to work fine.. how can I check out the source? zImage-modules-20091222_210627.tar |
| 06:21.51 | adamw | that's interesting. you seem to get a GPIO event that looks much like a keypress event on opening/closing the keyboard... |
| 06:21.52 | MrPippy | you could dump all of smem and just go through it with strings or a hex editor |
| 06:22.09 | makkonen | hey, echo 2 > /sys/devices/platform/msm_hsusb/usb_function_switch works on this kernel. keen. sorry to doubt you, mcdull. |
| 06:22.18 | stinebd | adamw: got a linux-msm checkout? |
| 06:22.21 | randomblame | the dex address isn't in smem |
| 06:22.30 | adamw | stinebd: i gots three of 'em |
| 06:22.41 | adamw | is reinventing git in directory structures |
| 06:22.46 | makkonen | adamw: that's a little... opulent, isn't it? |
| 06:22.56 | mcdull | makkonen: actually all latest kernel in these few weeks works. |
| 06:22.59 | adamw | hell, I got nothing else to do with this hard disk space |
| 06:23.07 | adamw | and I still suck too much at git to use it for what it's actually meant for |
| 06:23.16 | bzo | mcdull: src to adb daemon/client? |
| 06:23.17 | adamw | so when I need to screw with a tree I just make a copy. :P |
| 06:23.21 | stinebd | adamw: ok, pick your favorite one, look in arch/arm/mach-msm/board-htcrhodium-keypad.c (and maybe msm-gpio-keys.c for good measure) and start adding buttons randomly. if ptt works, you win |
| 06:23.31 | adamw | stinebd: it sounds so easy! :) |
| 06:23.38 | mcdull | bzo: the kernel source "device.c" as I remembered |
| 06:23.39 | stinebd | adamw: that's how i did it with raph |
| 06:23.44 | adamw | stinebd: oh joy. |
| 06:23.45 | stinebd | but it was much easier since there's raph_navi_pad |
| 06:23.51 | stinebd | no such luck on rhod |
| 06:23.55 | adamw | there's a navipad for rhodium too |
| 06:23.59 | adamw | but it has almost nothing on it |
| 06:24.08 | adamw | and this button seems to be part of the keyboard, so, yeah. i lose. |
| 06:24.08 | makkonen | adamw: you'd be better served by actually learning how git works. It's only impenetrable and baffling for the first... well, I've been using it for about 5 months now, so I'm going to guess... 2 years. |
| 06:24.15 | adamw | makkonen: heh |
| 06:24.30 | stinebd | adamw: i mean in the kernel, board-htcraphael-navi.c |
| 06:24.38 | adamw | makkonen: i've had to deal with it more or less since it first existed and i still don't get it. i understand enough at an intellectual level to realize it's totally awesome for smart people. but i still can't use it. |
| 06:24.42 | adamw | stinebd: oh. gotcha. |
| 06:24.46 | bzo | mcdull: http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm |
| 06:25.01 | stinebd | basically i tried adding PTT at various places on the navipad layout in the kernel and eventually one of them worked |
| 06:25.12 | adamw | stinebd: looks like I have another fun-filled evening ahead of me! |
| 06:25.23 | adamw | still, I have a better chance of success at this than the wireless crap., |
| 06:25.30 | stinebd | which was nice because i didn't really feel like doing the haretconsole dance |
| 06:25.30 | mcdull | bzo: I have this git clone already. But I would like to check out an old version of the source (zImage-modules-20091222_210627.tar) |
| 06:25.37 | makkonen | adamw: I call myself smart, and I both know and can FEEL that it's awesome... but most of the time it's just beyond me. I think I started to really understand merging for the first time at 4am last night/this morning. Then I went to sleep and forgot it all. |
| 06:25.38 | adamw | is just planning to dump the gw620 source tree on markinus whenever he shows up, and tell him to fix it |
| 06:25.52 | adamw | makkonen: ah, one of the famous 'git dreams' :) |
| 06:26.12 | MrPippy | heh i don't really know what the dex address is, but the amss version might be somewhere in smem |
| 06:26.14 | makkonen | but I did wake up feeling like I should rebase everything before I push it to keep the commit log linear. and I think that's actually true. |
| 06:26.29 | stinebd | i have git dreams too, but i always end up waking up right before git push |
| 06:26.33 | adamw | i seem to remember reading a smart person saying something vaguely like that. somewhere. some time. |
| 06:26.35 | bzo | mcdull: just browse the tree in the web site, go to device.c and look at the commits to it |
| 06:26.41 | randomblame | maybe I'll dig |
| 06:27.02 | adamw | makkonen: the -msm tree does have some 'buried' commit messages, where you took stuff from upstream and it got the upstream commit date. i noticed. |
| 06:27.04 | makkonen | stinebd: that's so unsatisfying. |
| 06:27.11 | randomblame | the dex address is the location in memory that arm9 and arm11 use for communication |
| 06:27.49 | mcdull | The latest change for the usb part would be changing the deviceID: productID to match with HTC Dream. |
| 06:28.01 | makkonen | mcdull: that's been done. |
| 06:28.08 | makkonen | hasn't it? |
| 06:28.53 | makkonen | it's been done unless there's something else that has to be changed and hasn't. It shows up as an HTC Dream and automatically gets drivers in windows now. |
| 06:28.58 | mcdull | makkonen, yes, its done. but I am not very sure if it is a good idea. |
| 06:29.17 | MrPippy | proc_comm_wince writes dex commands to shared_ram_base+fc100, thats smem |
| 06:29.24 | makkonen | It's not pretty, but it's useful. |
| 06:29.51 | randomblame | yeah I know it doesn't seem to work |
| 06:30.23 | bzo | makkonen: you were looking at the mic problem before your merge snafu yesterday right? Ever get back to looking at it? |
| 06:30.34 | randomblame | proc_comm.c writes it to rambase + 0 |
| 06:30.46 | randomblame | but that doesn't work either |
| 06:31.13 | mcdull | bzo: I am sorry that I am not familar with the git tree. Where I can see the old commits? |
| 06:31.23 | MrPippy | you could use haret and mmutrace smem to see all the accesses |
| 06:31.38 | randomblame | or maybe it does and these dex timeouts are a symptom of another problem |
| 06:31.51 | adamw | stinebd: i note this in your fuze keymap |
| 06:31.52 | adamw | key 115 VOLUME_UP |
| 06:31.52 | adamw | key 169 CAMERA # Push to talk |
| 06:31.56 | randomblame | good idea |
| 06:32.06 | adamw | stinebd: so it didn't turn out to be, oh, the next key after volume_up or anything needlessly sane like that |
| 06:32.37 | makkonen | bzo: 'looking at' is strong. I was asking if anyone had an idea what I should look at. and i never got any farther than that. |
| 06:32.47 | stinebd | adamw: well that's just the userland part. it wasn't generating an input event at all before i added it to the kernel |
| 06:33.06 | adamw | stinebd: oh right. what did it turn out to be in the kernel? |
| 06:33.14 | adamw | stinebd: anything sensible in relation to other keys? |
| 06:33.24 | bzo | mcdull: what is the path to device.c? |
| 06:34.27 | stinebd | adamw: in board-htcraphael-navi.c line 121. that driver is laid out very nicely, dividing the navi pad into "rows and columns" and i was able to brute force it to the right location |
| 06:35.04 | adamw | stinebd: yeah, just saw it. |
| 06:35.18 | mcdull | bzo, arch/arm/mach-msm/device.c |
| 06:35.20 | stinebd | (KEY_PHONE used to be KEY_RESERVED) |
| 06:36.18 | stinebd | adamw: at a quick glance, board-htcrhodium-keymap is similar and you might get away with the same thing |
| 06:36.45 | adamw | stinebd: just throw it in under KEY_VOLUMEDOWN ? |
| 06:37.53 | stinebd | adamw: pay attention to the KEYMAP_INDEX(x,y) macro where x and y relate to rhodium_[col|row]_gpios as defined above |
| 06:38.18 | stinebd | the weird thing is that it already generates an event, though |
| 06:38.42 | adamw | yeah i was wondering about that. it seems different to your case |
| 06:38.53 | bzo | mcdull: go to the url I posted earlier, hit tree link, navigate to device .c to view file. Then scroll to bottom and hit the "blob history" link |
| 06:38.55 | adamw | for both of the keys...it's not that they're not there, they just work exactly like another key... |
| 06:39.40 | bzo | makkonen: so the advice was to do an rpc trace in winmo? |
| 06:40.01 | mcdull | bzo: thanks. |
| 06:40.14 | stinebd | adamw: does normal rhod have the same arrow key issue? |
| 06:40.47 | adamw | stinebd: yes |
| 06:41.50 | babijoee | uploading now guys :) |
| 06:42.34 | makkonen | MrPippy: I don't know if you have any interest, but in the interim, while no one's got an actual respectable way to get battery data, there's a few lines in htc_battery_smem.c in my tree that makes it report semi-sane data on raph800/diam500. |
| 06:42.44 | makkonen | bzo: yeah. doesn't sound like a lot of fun. :-) |
| 06:43.41 | MrPippy | ok thanks, i'll give it a try until i can go back to disassembling battery.dll |
| 06:45.45 | adamw | stinebd: probably a very silly question, but why does KEYMAP_INDEX(0, 2) get used three times? |
| 06:45.53 | stinebd | adamw: hell if i know :( |
| 06:45.56 | bzo | makkonen: yeah, i guess the reason this isn't already fixed is because it is hard :) |
| 06:46.02 | stinebd | i was wondering that too |
| 06:46.20 | adamw | oh good, it's not a really dumb question then. or if it is, at least i'm not the only dumb one :) |
| 06:46.43 | leobaillard | who uploaded the 4.02.10 build and what does it changes ? |
| 06:47.09 | adamw | leobaillard: babijoee did |
| 06:47.29 | adamw | leobaillard: has my new rhodium keymap plus some change to make things smoother or something |
| 06:47.46 | leobaillard | okay, he didn't change the first post :) |
| 06:47.55 | stinebd | adamw: i'm still trying to figure out how your keyboard works at all :D |
| 06:48.05 | adamw | babijoee: ooh. i just remembered, the tilt2 keymap in the same directory is actually updated from the version you have in xdandroid atm. nothing major, just adds a couple of convenience keys. you can pull the updated files if you like |
| 06:48.17 | adamw | stinebd: :P |
| 06:48.24 | mcdull | is the keymap modified in rootfs or in the system.sqsh? |
| 06:48.28 | adamw | stinebd: i'm thinking - is KEY_MENU the task switcher? |
| 06:48.40 | adamw | stinebd: because the power key is used as HOME on a short press and task switch on a long press |
| 06:48.46 | adamw | mcdull: rootfs |
| 06:48.48 | stinebd | adamw: at the kernel level, i have no idea where events are being generated |
| 06:48.54 | adamw | mcdull: rootfs, init.etc/keymaps |
| 06:49.03 | babijoee | leobaillard: uploading now :) |
| 06:49.12 | leobaillard | oh okay |
| 06:49.21 | stinebd | adamw: android home long press = task switcher |
| 06:49.26 | leobaillard | what changes did you do babijoee ? |
| 06:49.26 | stinebd | power = android home |
| 06:49.31 | adamw | stinebd: okay, so that's just an android thing. |
| 06:49.34 | stinebd | yeah |
| 06:49.47 | adamw | sigh. /me = confused |
| 06:49.59 | adamw | i can throw in extra lines for all the other possible KEYMAP_INDEX pairs i guess |
| 06:50.07 | adamw | lord knows what that'd do |
| 06:50.17 | mcdull | adamw, I see. Thanks. I checked the init. Several paths have hardcoded /sdcard/ which I always had my android put into the android folder, so I got to change the init. |
| 06:50.32 | babijoee | new apns_xml, smoother scrolling, rhod210 keymap, shootme app |
| 06:50.43 | leobaillard | loves the personas in Firefox 3.6 o/ |
| 06:50.52 | stinebd | babijoee: smoother scrolling = cpufreq change? |
| 06:50.59 | adamw | babijoee: i could probably send you Telus info for apns_xml if i ever get around to it, if it's not in there yet |
| 06:51.08 | babijoee | yeah cant remember who told me |
| 06:51.12 | babijoee | but i added it |
| 06:51.24 | babijoee | i'm using nexus one apns |
| 06:51.29 | babijoee | it should me most updated |
| 06:51.40 | stinebd | cpufreq was me. does it make any difference for you? |
| 06:51.54 | babijoee | yeah it does |
| 06:52.08 | babijoee | but with double the ram it seems the same |
| 06:52.09 | babijoee | :p |
| 06:52.25 | babijoee | besides battery drain is minimal |
| 06:52.48 | leobaillard | wants ssh tunneling on his Android :( |
| 06:52.48 | stinebd | i'm getting roughly 16 hours lately |
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| 06:53.14 | playdo | morning guys |
| 06:53.15 | babijoee | adamw: could i get the names of people who made the tilt2 and rhod210 keymaps? |
| 06:53.24 | babijoee | need to give them credit |
| 06:53.36 | stinebd | tilt2 = adamw |
| 06:53.50 | adamw | babijoee: i did them both. i credited stinebd in my READ_ME for helping me out with some stuff |
| 06:53.58 | adamw | babijoee: reefermattness tested for me |
| 06:54.14 | babijoee | awesome |
| 06:54.36 | babijoee | calibration tool ? |
| 06:54.42 | stinebd | keymaps were a lot more fun when we didn't have any kcm source :) |
| 06:54.52 | adamw | babijoee: calibration stuff is phh's i think? |
| 06:54.55 | babijoee | ok |
| 06:55.02 | adamw | stinebd: you can hexedit the .bin can't you? it looks vaguely readable |
| 06:55.05 | babijoee | stinebd: true :p |
| 06:55.08 | leobaillard | and makkonen iirc |
| 06:55.20 | stinebd | adamw: oh god that would be a pain |
| 06:55.28 | adamw | definitely easier working from the source though haha :P |
| 06:55.33 | babijoee | calibration by makkonen? |
| 06:55.54 | stinebd | yeah makkonen |
| 06:55.55 | leobaillard | well he gave me a diff for the init so I guess |
| 06:55.57 | babijoee | ok |
| 06:56.07 | stinebd | that calibration program is really nice too |
| 06:56.14 | leobaillard | indeed |
| 06:56.42 | babijoee | and last but not least the LED effects apk |
| 06:56.49 | leobaillard | unfortunately I won't be able to test the new build quite yet... I'm in a 18h hours mission for phh :p |
| 06:56.51 | stinebd | that was leob |
| 06:56.55 | leobaillard | no |
| 06:56.57 | leobaillard | chamonix: |
| 06:56.58 | babijoee | hahah |
| 06:56.59 | stinebd | ah |
| 06:57.05 | babijoee | okay |
| 06:57.07 | stinebd | leob made the rootfs hen |
| 06:57.08 | leobaillard | I just added it in the package |
| 06:57.08 | stinebd | then* |
| 06:57.16 | leobaillard | and the squashfs |
| 06:57.20 | stinebd | yeah |
| 06:57.24 | stinebd | partial credit |
| 06:57.26 | stinebd | ;) |
| 06:57.28 | playdo | what about calibration for blackstone? |
| 06:57.28 | leobaillard | ^^ |
| 06:57.35 | playdo | still got some issues with the ts |
| 06:57.37 | leobaillard | I used to build a lot for the 1.6 |
| 06:57.38 | babijoee | does it not work ? |
| 06:57.40 | adamw | stinebd: so what do you think, should I just throw in all the other theoretical pairs and call them KEY_PHONE and see what happens? |
| 06:58.03 | playdo | babijoee: almost working, but sometimes the touchpoint "jumps" |
| 06:58.12 | babijoee | ah k |
| 06:58.23 | stinebd | adamw: you can try, but i'm weary of the voodoo going on behind the scenes with the keypad and msm gpio drivers. the worst that can happen is you get a lot of PTT keys |
| 06:58.34 | mcdull | yes. any idea of why the tssc not being impletemented in blackstone? |
| 06:58.37 | adamw | stinebd: yeah, as long as it doesn't melt anything i don't care. |
| 06:59.21 | mcdull | according to phh, the commit he did does not include blackstone.... no idea... |
| 07:00.06 | playdo | yeah i know, but he said it shouldn't be hard to make calibration for blackstone |
| 07:00.46 | adamw | stinebd: btw, are these docs out of date? the 'ibit GPIOS foo' commands for ignoring GPIOS doesn't seem to work |
| 07:00.57 | mcdull | actually the screen position is quite accurate in blackstone. but it sometimes has some weired reaction when touched. |
| 07:01.02 | adamw | even if i do 'ibit GPIOS 9', the next 'watch GPIOS 10' shows GPIO 9 events just the same |
| 07:01.28 | MrPippy | adamw: are you using the right number? the one in parenthesis? |
| 07:01.31 | adamw | yup |
| 07:01.38 | bzo | mcdull: because buttons are part of touchscreen and not accounted for by driver and/or calibration |
| 07:01.40 | MrPippy | hmm maybe don't do caps? |
| 07:01.52 | playdo | mcdull: thats what i mean. thought this weird actions could be fixed by calibration |
| 07:02.07 | leobaillard | rah ! my nautilus crashed and I can't kill the parent without closing all the apps... damned you Gnome ! |
| 07:02.15 | adamw | MrPippy: nope, still. |
| 07:02.38 | mcdull | playdo: I don't think they are related. It may be somehow related to the multi-touch I guess. |
| 07:03.05 | playdo | multitouch? Oo |
| 07:03.54 | mcdull | playdo, of course we dont have it, the weired action is like jumping of position. So it is just my wild guess. |
| 07:04.58 | mcdull | we have multitouch driver compiled as well. so it may be a burden as we all have no capacitive screen. |
| 07:05.30 | playdo | sounds weird |
| 07:05.40 | playdo | but could be an explanation |
| 07:06.20 | makkonen | phh built the calibration tool, I just debugged and updated it, and did the init script stuff. |
| 07:06.35 | mcdull | playdo, did you try the "virtual" multitouch for a game emulator for windows mobile? |
| 07:06.52 | babijoee | NEW BUILD IT UP |
| 07:07.06 | makkonen | and tssc_manager isn't running on blackstone yet because the blackstone keys are part of the touchscreen, and that part hasn't been ported into the tssc_manager code. |
| 07:07.10 | babijoee | http://htcandroid.xland.cz/XDANDROID.4.02.10.7z |
| 07:07.11 | mcdull | some reactions are quite similar. |
| 07:07.19 | playdo | mcdull ehm, yeah i think so, but thats some hard resets and rom flashes ago |
| 07:07.53 | playdo | so e.g. when u touch 2 points, it emulates a third? |
| 07:08.14 | playdo | babijoee: what are the changes to the new build? |
| 07:08.41 | babijoee | check the first post |
| 07:08.52 | mcdull | playdo, when touch points , the cursor jump in mid between them and software calculated the second pointer. |
| 07:09.13 | mcdull | babijoee, can you remove google voice from the system.sqsh? |
| 07:09.31 | babijoee | its needed |
| 07:09.41 | babijoee | for people who need it |
| 07:09.44 | mcdull | it was non-function and cant be removed as it was installed in /system/app |
| 07:09.58 | playdo | hmm fucking hate it atm, cause when i'm typing blackstone jumps to space every third touch or so |
| 07:10.11 | babijoee | huh |
| 07:10.16 | mcdull | and prevented the working version to be installed from market. |
| 07:10.16 | babijoee | i remember google voice working |
| 07:10.25 | babijoee | you just need to play sound or call someone |
| 07:10.28 | babijoee | then its functional |
| 07:10.43 | mcdull | there should be an icon showing google voice, can you see it? |
| 07:11.00 | playdo | wooohooo more ram implemented |
| 07:11.04 | playdo | *dance* |
| 07:11.16 | playdo | gotta try that |
| 07:11.19 | mcdull | I need todo the mksquash everytime to remove this google voice. |
| 07:11.47 | makkonen | I wonder if that's why I keep getting an 'updates available' message, then nothing when I go to the market. |
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| 07:12.10 | makkonen | I think I had google voice installed, and there's also a version in the system.sqsh? |
| 07:12.50 | mcdull | makkonen, yes, it is shown installed, but you have no way to start the application. Say, to send a text message via google voice. |
| 07:13.03 | makkonen | oh, it works fine on my system. |
| 07:13.17 | makkonen | but I haven't trashed my data.img in a while, so I don't know how it got set up the way it is. |
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| 07:13.45 | mcdull | makkonen, which build are you using? where you got it downloaded? |
| 07:13.56 | mcdull | I mean the system.sqsh |
| 07:14.10 | makkonen | xdandroid.02.02 |
| 07:14.25 | makkonen | but gvoice has worked on every xdandroid build for me. |
| 07:14.44 | makkonen | or, at least, the 16th, the 24th/25th, and the most recent one. |
| 07:14.56 | mcdull | you got the gvoice icon? |
| 07:15.10 | mcdull | or you just call with "+" |
| 07:15.11 | makkonen | (have been using the same data.img on all of them, though, and did install from the market at some point) |
| 07:15.40 | makkonen | gvoice icon, toggle gvoice icon, integration where it automatically dials thru gvoice |
| 07:15.57 | stinebd | who was talking about battery reporting before? |
| 07:16.09 | babijoee | mcdull it work :) |
| 07:16.11 | mcdull | I did try to figure out how to use gvoice and for that particular reason, I learn how to use sqsh. |
| 07:16.25 | makkonen | stinebd: me? |
| 07:16.27 | babijoee | anyways it doesn't take up much memory |
| 07:16.28 | mcdull | babijoee, thanks for checking, I will do it again. |
| 07:16.47 | stinebd | makkonen: was it something that needed testing on other devices? |
| 07:16.49 | mcdull | it is just the problem to prevent it from upgrade / overwritten. |
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| 07:17.34 | makkonen | stinebd: you've got flaky but semi-accurate battery status on the fuze, right? |
| 07:17.40 | stinebd | makkonen: yeah |
| 07:17.49 | stinebd | flaky as in it loves to jump up and down like a six-year-old on caffeine |
| 07:17.55 | makkonen | then nah, nothing worth testing. |
| 07:18.01 | stinebd | ok |
| 07:18.44 | adamw | stinebd: well, that made no damn difference at all. |
| 07:18.45 | makkonen | raph500/800/diam400/500 use a different set of fields for battery data, and the main tree has completely broken reporting for them. I tweaked the values so it's sorta accurate, six-year-old-on-caffeine-ish. |
| 07:19.20 | stinebd | ah ok |
| 07:19.20 | adamw | makkonen: feel like making it work on rhodium for an encore? |
| 07:20.29 | makkonen | adamw: remember when i said I have no idea what I'm doing? I can feel my way through on a device that's sitting in front of me. it's orders of magnitude harder when I've got nothing to get my bearings with as I stumble blindly along. |
| 07:20.37 | adamw | makkonen: heh, okay. |
| 07:20.40 | adamw | no worries |
| 07:21.30 | makkonen | I took a quick glance, and it looks like the rhodium uses the same values as the gsm diamond/raphael. so I'm not sure where it's falling apart. |
| 07:22.20 | adamw | oh well, it's not that important |
| 07:22.48 | makkonen | hmm. just locked up my phone. wonder what did it this time. |
| 07:22.55 | MrPippy | wow so gsm battery status works fine? |
| 07:23.18 | makkonen | not fine. but it works. |
| 07:23.53 | stinebd | it gives you a general idea of where it's at |
| 07:25.48 | babijoee | adamw: can you confirm the rhod210 kb working? |
| 07:29.21 | babijoee | anyone confirm it working? |
| 07:33.07 | adamw | babijoee: in the new build? i'll check |
| 07:33.30 | babijoee | yeah |
| 07:36.49 | playdo | testing ram fix on blackstone |
| 07:36.52 | playdo | booting |
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| 07:45.05 | adamw | babijoee: still downloading here... |
| 07:45.19 | babijoee | lol |
| 07:45.20 | babijoee | ok |
| 07:45.55 | playdo | ram is at 178mb, confirmed on blackstone |
| 07:53.45 | babijoee | woah |
| 07:53.52 | babijoee | 178mb @.@ |
| 07:54.04 | babijoee | how much ram is on blackstone? |
| 07:54.32 | makkonen | 288 I believe, like most of 'em (except gsm diamond) |
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| 07:54.41 | babijoee | ah k |
| 07:54.49 | babijoee | havent seen anyone with that much ram :p |
| 07:54.55 | babijoee | lucky you |
| 07:54.57 | makkonen | yeah, it's new today. |
| 07:55.18 | playdo | :-D i'm happy |
| 07:55.22 | leobaillard | no need to remind that makkonen :( |
| 07:55.30 | makkonen | leobaillard: sorry. |
| 07:55.33 | leobaillard | :p |
| 07:55.51 | playdo | is there some possibility for implementing a shutdown function? |
| 07:55.53 | leobaillard | I thought I had a great phone, now I'm jealous... :( |
| 07:56.00 | makkonen | time to start seriously considering a rhodium/topaz. |
| 07:56.05 | babijoee | haha get a nexus leobaillard |
| 07:56.08 | playdo | i thought that too, till i saw touch hd2 :( |
| 07:56.13 | leobaillard | don't have the money for that... |
| 07:56.28 | playdo | 1gb rom, 512mb ram *dreaming* |
| 07:57.00 | playdo | and first capacitive ts with winmo |
| 07:57.02 | babijoee | 1 gb ROM? |
| 07:57.08 | babijoee | i think its 512 |
| 07:57.10 | playdo | hd2 |
| 07:57.22 | playdo | in usa it seems to be twice as much |
| 07:57.31 | babijoee | its 512 playdo |
| 07:57.49 | playdo | http://www.pmptoday.com/2010/01/24/htc-hd2-coming-to-t-mobile-usa-with-1gb-rom-576mb-ram/ |
| 07:57.52 | babijoee | http://www.htc.com/www/product/hd2/specification.html |
| 07:58.25 | babijoee | woah i dont see the point |
| 07:58.27 | babijoee | =/ |
| 07:58.49 | makkonen | yeah, i don't get it. |
| 07:58.55 | playdo | http://www.htc.com/us/products/t-mobile-hd2#tech-specs |
| 07:58.56 | makkonen | what do you do with 1gb ROM? |
| 07:59.07 | playdo | installing android to it ^^ |
| 07:59.27 | babijoee | playdo: lol |
| 07:59.34 | babijoee | that would be aweseom |
| 07:59.35 | adamw | winmo 6.5 / winmo 7 / android / maemo quad boot? :P |
| 07:59.35 | makkonen | except build a kitchen that has all your favorite songs in ROM? |
| 07:59.36 | stinebd | babijoee: you made the keymaps world-writeable. was that intentional? |
| 07:59.45 | playdo | adamw: this ^^ |
| 07:59.50 | babijoee | yeah |
| 07:59.59 | makkonen | adamw: ok, that sounds pretty cool. |
| 07:59.59 | adamw | they don't need to be writeable |
| 08:00.02 | adamw | but it won't break anything |
| 08:00.04 | babijoee | i know |
| 08:00.11 | babijoee | i cbb changing perms |
| 08:00.15 | adamw | heh |
| 08:00.15 | babijoee | i just made it read/write |
| 08:00.23 | stinebd | i hope android is secure |
| 08:00.25 | stinebd | heh |
| 08:00.29 | makkonen | the image isn't writeable anyway, right? |
| 08:00.34 | babijoee | yeah |
| 08:00.43 | babijoee | you cant write to system.sqsh |
| 08:00.50 | stinebd | it's in rootfs.img |
| 08:00.53 | stinebd | which is writeable |
| 08:00.54 | playd|breakfast | yumyum |
| 08:00.55 | makkonen | ...is it on system.sqsh or... yeah, that |
| 08:00.57 | babijoee | -.-" right |
| 08:01.13 | babijoee | well if something happens |
| 08:01.17 | babijoee | i'll change perms :p |
| 08:04.25 | babijoee | adamw: is it working? |
| 08:04.41 | stinebd | i doubt it's a risk |
| 08:04.51 | stinebd | we need not issue a CVE about it |
| 08:04.54 | adamw | babijoee: i can't extract the archive |
| 08:05.00 | adamw | getting these stupid freaking 'permission denied' errors |
| 08:06.05 | adamw | i really dunno where they come from |
| 08:07.19 | adamw | don't use 7zip files much, heh |
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| 08:07.39 | gehzumteufel | ReeferMattness You there? |
| 08:08.13 | adamw | hey gehz |
| 08:08.16 | gehzumteufel | Sup |
| 08:08.31 | makkonen | hmm. I seem to be having that same old apns problem with xdandroid.4.02 |
| 08:08.33 | ReeferMattness | actually I just sat down, strange timing gehz |
| 08:08.34 | gehzumteufel | I just came in to see if reefer was around. He needs to change the first post in the new thread |
| 08:08.39 | gehzumteufel | haha awesome |
| 08:08.44 | gehzumteufel | So in your first post in the new thread |
| 08:08.49 | gehzumteufel | It needs a slight change |
| 08:09.15 | makkonen | haven't confirmed yet, but it's not managing to get a data connection. |
| 08:11.09 | gehzumteufel | Well, I would be happy to test, but I can't stay up tonight |
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| 08:11.52 | babijoee | makkonen: i'm using nexus one apns |
| 08:11.55 | gehzumteufel | And I am off. Talk to yalls later |
| 08:12.01 | babijoee | i'll need to merge it with xda one |
| 08:12.08 | babijoee | i forgot to merge them :p |
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| 08:12.36 | makkonen | ah |
| 08:12.44 | makkonen | so the same problem as back in mid-january. |
| 08:12.55 | babijoee | yeah |
| 08:13.02 | babijoee | APNS are so gay |
| 08:13.05 | babijoee | too many |
| 08:13.07 | stinebd | hah |
| 08:13.13 | makkonen | hmm. |
| 08:13.22 | babijoee | i'll merge them later |
| 08:13.24 | makkonen | booted one more time to play around with apns... and data works. |
| 08:13.28 | babijoee | i'm looking for snes roms :) |
| 08:13.36 | babijoee | lol |
| 08:13.38 | babijoee | awesome |
| 08:14.00 | stinebd | what a coincidence, i think my brother in law has every snes rom ever dumped |
| 08:14.24 | babijoee | hahah |
| 08:14.34 | babijoee | does he even own a 1/4 of them? |
| 08:14.52 | stinebd | he doesn't even own an snes |
| 08:14.59 | babijoee | roflmao |
| 08:15.08 | makkonen | I used to have all of them. because my friend had all of them, and brought over his hard drive. |
| 08:15.22 | babijoee | other day i saw EB selling a snes system for $180. more than a ps2 |
| 08:15.23 | makkonen | I, however, do still own an snes. and SMW and simcity 2000. |
| 08:15.33 | makkonen | wow. maybe I should sell mine. |
| 08:15.37 | stinebd | i have some pretty rare cartridges |
| 08:15.54 | stinebd | chrono trigger, final fantasy III/VI, earthbound, etc |
| 08:15.57 | ReeferMattness | I still have my Sega and Sega CD |
| 08:16.02 | stinebd | i have no need for roms :) |
| 08:16.10 | makkonen | nice. youtube works with the extra ram. |
| 08:16.19 | babijoee | really? |
| 08:16.24 | babijoee | watchable? |
| 08:16.25 | makkonen | this is totally becoming a usable phone. |
| 08:16.27 | makkonen | yeah. |
| 08:16.36 | babijoee | cool |
| 08:16.40 | babijoee | i'm trying now |
| 08:16.44 | leobaillard | wooocha : [ 7781.708740] Rebooting in 7 seconds..<3>ARM9 has CRASHED >> that doesn't seem good at all :p |
| 08:16.45 | makkonen | I've got the sound turned down, but the video seems fine. |
| 08:16.59 | leobaillard | makkonen: I hate you :( |
| 08:17.11 | babijoee | leobaillard: during boot? |
| 08:17.30 | makkonen | leobaillard: uf. bad timing. I feel your pain. |
| 08:18.04 | leobaillard | my investigation for phh : I was trying to get a hold on what could be this ~18h problem, this was just after a kernel oops and the system restarted |
| 08:18.22 | babijoee | ooo |
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| 08:18.27 | leobaillard | but the message is scary :p |
| 08:18.38 | stinebd | the caps make it scary |
| 08:18.46 | leobaillard | if someone want to have a look at it : http://leobaillard.org/partage/gnux/kmsg |
| 08:18.48 | stinebd | replace it with some ascii hearts and it's a friendly message |
| 08:19.04 | ReeferMattness | LOL |
| 08:19.10 | leobaillard | that time it did it before 18h but I think the problem is the same, or at least, related |
| 08:21.26 | MrPippy | wow another panic in htc_battery_smem, this one looks like wakelocks though |
| 08:22.39 | leobaillard | I'm gonna update and see if it goes for 18h or so |
| 08:22.49 | leobaillard | and see if the problem is the same |
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| 08:26.40 | makkonen | mrpippy: my panic in htc_battery_smem was fixed by turning off rhodium in the defconfig |
| 08:28.43 | MrPippy | ok, i guess i've never built kernels with rhod enabled |
| 08:28.53 | MrPippy | what a weird bug, maybe i'll look at that |
| 08:29.45 | adamw | i've built+booted a few kernels today obviously with rhodium enabled and they work, so it doesn't break actual rhodiums, heh |
| 08:29.58 | makkonen | :-) |
| 08:30.19 | makkonen | lots of things break these cdma devices. not sure why. |
| 08:30.36 | adamw | is happy to be off frickin' cdma |
| 08:30.52 | makkonen | I love it. |
| 08:31.39 | makkonen | I hate the sound of gsm. "ca--u--er---me now?" |
| 08:31.49 | makkonen | it amazes me that that's the technology that took over the world. |
| 08:32.03 | leobaillard | oh crap... it's not my day, my desktop is making oopses now :/ |
| 08:32.09 | adamw | not noticed any difference in call quality... |
| 08:32.39 | adamw | well, i'm not actually on gsm. telus' network is all hspa, no gsm at all. |
| 08:33.16 | makkonen | mrpippy: was this your change to fix adb in htc_battery_smem? |
| 08:33.18 | makkonen | - msm_hsusb_set_vbus_state((source==CHARGER_USB) || (source==CHARGER_AC)); |
| 08:33.19 | makkonen | - if ((source == CHARGER_USB) || (source==CHARGER_AC)) { |
| 08:33.19 | makkonen | + msm_hsusb_set_vbus_state(source==CHARGER_USB); |
| 08:33.19 | makkonen | + if (source == CHARGER_USB) { |
| 08:33.40 | MrPippy | not just adb, but usb overall |
| 08:33.48 | makkonen | ok |
| 08:34.11 | makkonen | seems like it broke adb for me. possibly I'm just going crazy. |
| 08:34.39 | makkonen | everything breaks adb for me, though. what I get for using windows. |
| 08:35.25 | adamw | noticed a usb icon in his notification tray on boots with recent kernels |
| 08:35.32 | adamw | so uh yay and stuff. |
| 08:35.43 | adamw | though that may just be because I was booting with the PC connected, thinking about it. |
| 08:35.59 | MrPippy | yeah that patch shouldn't break adb, unless maybe your charge_current gpio actually works (mine doesn't), you unplug from an ac charger and plug into a computer and it doesn't realize theres a change |
| 08:36.24 | MrPippy | it's been months since i've seen the usb debugging icon in android, i wonder what happened to it |
| 08:36.34 | makkonen | so strange. |
| 08:36.48 | makkonen | for a while it was appearing, and I couldn't connect. then it wasn't, and I could... |
| 08:37.36 | mcdull | I am just booting the new build.. hope everything is good. |
| 08:38.16 | mcdull | confirmed the hack for adb over windows still works. |
| 08:38.18 | makkonen | mrpippy: oh, I'm back to having usb drop during the boot animation. I don't even remember what used to cause that. |
| 08:38.49 | mcdull | are there any file manager for adb that works good? |
| 08:39.02 | makkonen | droid explorer seems alright |
| 08:39.06 | leobaillard | does someone else than me has issues with cell tower localisation ? |
| 08:39.18 | leobaillard | I get this message from radio : E/RILC ( 1176): RIL_onRequestComplete: invalid RIL_Token |
| 08:39.44 | leobaillard | the towers are found, but it seems it's unable to complete the request or something |
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| 08:40.24 | leobaillard | here's the complete log : http://pastebin.com/d56ccadb6 |
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| 08:41.31 | MrPippy | stinebd: what is the smoother scrolling in latest xdandroid? |
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| 08:43.44 | mcdull | test |
| 08:43.56 | mcdull | oh.. finally being able to connect again. |
| 08:45.14 | mcdull | my blackstone halt in 3 minutes after first boot. |
| 08:45.29 | adamw | hmm. xdandroid extracts fine on a machine running mandriva. i guess fedora's p7zip is broken. |
| 08:45.54 | playdo | mcdull: whats the problem? |
| 08:46.00 | playdo | phone just freezes? |
| 08:46.21 | mcdull | playdo, as usual all bottons / screen got no response. |
| 08:46.23 | makkonen | sweet. adb working, got logcat spewing like crazy... life is good. |
| 08:46.27 | makkonen | and as I type that... |
| 08:46.36 | makkonen | SystemServer( 1213): Battery Service |
| 08:46.38 | mcdull | playdo, but I can still connect it to adb. |
| 08:46.45 | makkonen | and adb dies. weird. |
| 08:46.50 | makkonen | usb dies, in fact. |
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| 08:47.09 | playdo | mcdull: weird, mine was running fine |
| 08:47.25 | playdo | mcdull: i boot again |
| 08:47.38 | adamw | heh, .tar.lzma beats .7z by...9kB. go lzma! |
| 08:47.44 | mcdull | playdo, it happens randomly. sometimes I can have it on for more than 2 days. |
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| 08:48.04 | mcdull | sometimes it just stopped working in few minutes. |
| 08:48.27 | playdo | mcdull: sounds weird. i just got the problem with the hibernation |
| 08:48.41 | mcdull | what problem? |
| 08:48.45 | playdo | but didn't try running android longer than a few minutes |
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| 08:49.10 | leobaillard | makkonen: I take back what I said, I can watch youtube videos too !, the video quality is real shit, but the audio's great and the video is fluid |
| 08:49.20 | playdo | mcdull: when i set the phone to sleep and will power on again, is jumps back to sleep after 1 second displaying the screen |
| 08:49.36 | makkonen | sounds about like it is here. |
| 08:49.50 | playdo | or it even doesn't respond to wake up button |
| 08:49.53 | mcdull | playdo, so you never have the phone freezing? |
| 08:49.53 | leobaillard | so nothing about the new mem bank ;) |
| 08:49.59 | leobaillard | I'm releved |
| 08:50.11 | makkonen | glad I can avoid the hate -- until I mention something else about RAM :-) |
| 08:50.16 | leobaillard | ^^ |
| 08:50.18 | playdo | mcdull: no, til now the phone didn't freeze after a few minutes |
| 08:50.49 | playdo | but it didn't wake up any more from sleep several times with older builds |
| 08:50.56 | mcdull | playdo, it randomly happens. |
| 08:51.20 | mcdull | playdo, it is actually the same issue. when you feel the machine not waking, and the machine start a bit warm, that's it. |
| 08:51.22 | playdo | no idea where it comes from? app usin or so? |
| 08:51.32 | playdo | ah ok |
| 08:51.49 | playdo | just boots android |
| 08:51.50 | mcdull | the adb logcat can tells alot. but I have no idea of what it means. |
| 08:52.31 | mcdull | playdo, if I boots with usb on, the phone freeze alot. |
| 08:52.35 | playdo | dont have adb here. can i connect to windows xp somehow? |
| 08:52.41 | mcdull | yes. |
| 08:52.51 | playdo | you mean with plugged in usb? |
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| 08:52.56 | playdo | i try that |
| 08:53.02 | adamw | can you make the usb connection do tethering? that would be sweet. |
| 08:53.06 | mcdull | yes. connect to windows before haret. |
| 08:53.23 | playdo | god dammit >.< say that 5 seconds earlie xD |
| 08:53.26 | playdo | +r |
| 08:53.37 | playdo | gonna reboot ^^ |
| 08:53.40 | mcdull | playdo, not that simple... |
| 08:53.46 | mcdull | you need to add a line to your conf |
| 08:54.04 | playdo | what should i do? connect with windows via active sync or tethering? |
| 08:54.28 | mcdull | echo 2 > /sys/devices/platform/msm_hsusb/usb_function_switch |
| 08:54.46 | mcdull | activesync.. |
| 08:54.53 | mcdull | it actually doesn;'t matter. |
| 08:54.57 | playdo | k |
| 08:55.12 | playdo | how do i add this line? which config? |
| 08:55.14 | mcdull | put the line into your conf in the custom command section. |
| 08:55.29 | playdo | ? |
| 08:55.35 | playdo | dont get it, sry ^^ |
| 08:55.41 | mcdull | eclair.user.conf |
| 08:55.50 | mcdull | edit this file in your conf folder |
| 08:55.55 | mcdull | at the last part. |
| 08:55.58 | playdo | k wait, rebooting winmo |
| 08:56.56 | mcdull | shit.. my phone freeze again. may because of sleep while some background job is running that break the use input interface. |
| 08:57.36 | playdo | how can i set, that phone sleeps after a few minutes? |
| 08:57.49 | playdo | and not instantly after a few secs |
| 08:57.58 | mcdull | it is default in 1 minutes |
| 08:58.02 | mcdull | in setting. |
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| 08:59.26 | playdo | changed it to 10min but didn't work last time |
| 08:59.52 | playdo | where do i have to add the line? |
| 09:00.02 | mcdull | eclair.user.conf |
| 09:00.08 | mcdull | can you find this file? |
| 09:00.12 | mcdull | under conf folder |
| 09:00.22 | mcdull | and the last part |
| 09:00.35 | playdo | i have opened the file |
| 09:00.54 | playdo | hmm better change it from notepad. on the phone there too much confusion |
| 09:01.11 | mcdull | there is a custom_shells section |
| 09:01.31 | playdo | yeah saw it, but there are too many sign on that small screen ^^ |
| 09:01.31 | mcdull | just add the line there. HOWEVER. |
| 09:01.57 | mcdull | this line may break the adb under linux. so.. choose the os you want. |
| 09:03.30 | playdo | ok i added the line |
| 09:03.34 | playdo | now starting haret? |
| 09:03.53 | playdo | while plugged to usb and synced with windows |
| 09:04.16 | mcdull | yes. |
| 09:04.22 | mcdull | in activesync mode.. |
| 09:04.37 | mcdull | coz in storage mode you wont be able to start haret. |
| 09:04.55 | mcdull | babijoee, are you there? |
| 09:05.07 | babijoee | yes |
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| 09:05.20 | mcdull | I confirmed Google Voice is not working on my machine... |
| 09:05.21 | playdo | booting |
| 09:05.21 | babijoee | Markinus: ping |
| 09:05.28 | babijoee | hmmm |
| 09:05.32 | babijoee | ah well :p |
| 09:05.35 | Markinus | babijoee: pong |
| 09:05.36 | babijoee | it works for me |
| 09:05.37 | playdo | new hardware found ^^ |
| 09:05.46 | babijoee | you have some files for me? |
| 09:05.48 | mcdull | if you use old data.img, then it should be fine. |
| 09:06.09 | mcdull | I just use your new package with my startup only. |
| 09:06.19 | babijoee | hmmm |
| 09:06.19 | mcdull | and I see no google voice icon. only GTalk icon |
| 09:06.21 | Markinus | babijoee: We need some modifications in the systemfiles, I wrote you a PC in XDA, did you read this? |
| 09:06.27 | babijoee | yes |
| 09:06.27 | playdo | mcdull: my pc doesnt connect cause of admin rights. but that should simulate ur situation too, or not? |
| 09:06.29 | Markinus | PM |
| 09:06.34 | babijoee | i need the actual driver |
| 09:06.45 | Markinus | okay, Moment, I give you this . . |
| 09:07.03 | babijoee | i'll add it in next release as i just released a new build earlier |
| 09:08.12 | adamw | Markinus: heya |
| 09:08.21 | leobaillard | babijoee: you can update it |
| 09:08.22 | adamw | Markinus: the wireless doesn't work with the stuff you left for me |
| 09:08.32 | adamw | Markinus: however, i did find quite a bunch of new possibilities |
| 09:08.41 | Markinus | adamw: could you load the driver? Eny errors in dmesg? |
| 09:09.01 | babijoee | leobaillard: i dont want to atm :p |
| 09:09.06 | babijoee | still looking for games |
| 09:09.10 | adamw | Markinus: it's exactly the same as without the firmware |
| 09:09.24 | adamw | Markinus: what I found is that lg gw620 uses bcm4325, and has a complete system and code dump available |
| 09:09.38 | adamw | Markinus: so if you have a look at that you may be able to get something going...i tried to build that driver but couldn't manage it yet |
| 09:09.43 | adamw | Markinus: let me dig out the links for you |
| 09:10.33 | mcdull | babijoee, did you start a new data.img with your new build? |
| 09:10.38 | adamw | 03-02-2010 20:26:37 > adamw: the source code for teh LG GW620, which has the bcm4325 that's in rhodium (and a couple other htc models), is at http://depositfiles.com/files/zibqndg0g |
| 09:10.38 | adamw | 03-02-2010 20:26:53 > adamw: the system files for the GW620 are at http://depositfiles.com/en/files/uygt3aqx0 |
| 09:10.38 | adamw | 03-02-2010 20:27:30 > adamw: the system files contain etc/wl/nvram.txt , etc/wl/rtecdc.bin , etc/wl/rtecdc-mfgtest.bin and bin/BCM4325D0_004.001.007.0168.0169.hcd (I have no idea what that is) |
| 09:10.42 | adamw | Markinus: ^^^^ |
| 09:10.53 | babijoee | mcdull: i always do |
| 09:11.10 | Markinus | babijoee: http://www.multiupload.com/9JLRK2I6V7 |
| 09:11.20 | adamw | Markinus: there's an nvram.txt and a firmware (rtecdc.bin) in the system image, as i said. I don't know what the BCM4325D0_004.001.007.0168.0169.hcd file is for at all |
| 09:11.33 | mcdull | that's weired... for most of the pass version, gvoice not working... I need to extract the gvoice out and reinstall from market. |
| 09:12.12 | Markinus | adamw: the files from we are from a LG .. |
| 09:12.21 | mcdull | playdo, did you phone die after it sleep with the usb connected? |
| 09:12.27 | adamw | babijoee: tilt2 keymap is fine in current xdandroid btw, i'll try rhod210 in a minute |
| 09:12.29 | playdo | wait i try |
| 09:12.35 | Markinus | that in the package, I renamed this . . |
| 09:12.40 | adamw | Markinus: oh, the ones you left for me this morning were from an lg? didn't know |
| 09:12.41 | playdo | with market running in the back |
| 09:12.49 | Markinus | adamw: yes |
| 09:12.50 | adamw | Markinus: did you have the driver source though? that may help |
| 09:13.03 | adamw | it seems like an older version of bcm4329, but with a lot of differences... |
| 09:13.13 | mcdull | playdo, it could be caused by my SD Card.. I have lots of photo in my card. It will index the photo and take a lot of time. |
| 09:13.23 | adamw | but yeah, loading the bcm4329 driver with those files behaves exactly like loading it with the other files, or with no files |
| 09:13.26 | playdo | mcdull: shall i try directly to go back from sleep? |
| 09:13.40 | adamw | 10 second wait, then the 'sdio init failed' (or whatever it is) error |
| 09:14.02 | mcdull | playdo, you just leave your machine and let it shut off itself.. and wait 2 more minutes to try to bring it up, |
| 09:14.33 | playdo | mcdull: ok, switching back to 1min to hibernation and first installing andchat ^^ |
| 09:15.22 | Markinus | adamw: Hmm,. maybe is there a vreg for the chip what we have to activate .. . |
| 09:15.32 | playdo | is waiting zzzZZzzZZZ |
| 09:15.47 | mcdull | playdo, did you do the most important part in winmo? |
| 09:15.57 | babijoee | mcdull: try calling out |
| 09:16.04 | babijoee | and then see if it works |
| 09:16.11 | mcdull | playdo, I mean , to disable ALL power management. |
| 09:16.19 | adamw | Markinus: I noticed in bcm4329 the id for the chip is set to 0x000, but someone (i think phh or mrpippy) told me that was normal |
| 09:16.34 | mcdull | babijoee, gvoice should have its own application icon.. but I can never find it. |
| 09:16.44 | babijoee | application icon? |
| 09:16.57 | playdo | mcdull: which power management? auto screen light? |
| 09:17.02 | mcdull | yes.. Say "Google Voice" , white in color |
| 09:17.15 | playdo | or sleep modes too? |
| 09:17.24 | mcdull | playdo, yes, the sleep mode.. |
| 09:17.34 | mcdull | playdo, 1 minutes to sleep .. etc |
| 09:17.44 | playdo | dammit, no |
| 09:17.45 | babijoee | google voice = voice search? |
| 09:17.50 | mcdull | playdo, you have to disable ALL of them. |
| 09:17.57 | mcdull | babijoee, of course NOT. |
| 09:17.58 | playdo | *_____* |
| 09:18.01 | adamw | Markinus: the nvram.txt in the gw620 dump is definitely different from the one you sent me, btw |
| 09:18.03 | adamw | Markinus: i did check |
| 09:18.07 | babijoee | hmmm |
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| 09:18.09 | adamw | neither seesm to work, though. heh |
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| 09:18.12 | babijoee | wat do i use to check its working |
| 09:18.14 | playdo | why do i have to disable it mcdull? |
| 09:18.15 | mcdull | playdo, or your android will NEVER goes into deep sleep |
| 09:18.35 | playdo | but it does Oo |
| 09:19.03 | mcdull | babijoee, no idea.. it simiply not working.. coz when you start the application, it let you choose the dialer to use. |
| 09:19.15 | playdo | hmm just got back from sleep now with power button (not end call button) |
| 09:19.18 | babijoee | what application/ |
| 09:19.19 | babijoee | ? |
| 09:19.28 | mcdull | babijoee, Google Voice App |
| 09:19.41 | babijoee | i dont see the program at all |
| 09:19.50 | mcdull | babijoee, that is the problem. |
| 09:20.12 | babijoee | hmmm |
| 09:20.17 | babijoee | its not even on my nexus |
| 09:20.18 | mcdull | babijoee, just remove it would be fine. This program can be easily find in market and it works fine after install |
| 09:20.24 | babijoee | i'll dl it now and see what it does |
| 09:20.29 | babijoee | ooo |
| 09:20.33 | babijoee | then just install it :p |
| 09:20.40 | adamw | babijoee: rhod210 seems fine too |
| 09:20.50 | babijoee | adamw: awesome |
| 09:20.50 | mcdull | when you have it in system... market wont let you install |
| 09:20.57 | fleixius | bah laptop battery is about to die |
| 09:20.58 | fleixius | not fun |
| 09:21.02 | babijoee | mcdull: duly noted |
| 09:21.08 | babijoee | if i cant get it working |
| 09:21.11 | ReeferMattness | aye adam, tested that one earlier on a friend phone, he had just left, and I came back to report just that :) |
| 09:21.15 | babijoee | i'll remove in next build and place in others folder |
| 09:21.19 | playdo | mcdull: what program do u mean? google voice? |
| 09:21.24 | mcdull | babijoee, thx.. coz I need it for free SMS. |
| 09:21.29 | babijoee | LOL |
| 09:21.33 | mcdull | playdo, yes.. google voice.. |
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| 09:22.28 | playdo | mcdull what does it do? i have google voice installed. should i replace it with the one from market? |
| 09:22.29 | adamw | heh. i like stupid dumb keymap tricks |
| 09:22.33 | fleixius | lol you dont get free sms? |
| 09:22.33 | playdo | for testing? |
| 09:22.35 | mcdull | babijoee, my though is that, if the software is available from market, it should not be put in system. Coz it will prevent it from unload or update. |
| 09:22.37 | fleixius | Oh man thats lame |
| 09:22.42 | adamw | i mapped the one of the useless keys on the rhodium keyboard to ctrl-c |
| 09:22.42 | adamw | :P |
| 09:22.48 | babijoee | mcdull: must be old version |
| 09:22.55 | babijoee | i'll see if an updated version is detected |
| 09:22.57 | adamw | AHAHAH FEEL MY WRATH, ONGOING CONSOLE PROCESSES |
| 09:23.06 | mcdull | babijoee, no, the version is the same .. 0.3 |
| 09:23.09 | fleixius | adamw, ha I'd have to do that - also map a tab key. |
| 09:23.11 | babijoee | ah k |
| 09:23.16 | babijoee | i'll remove it :) |
| 09:23.29 | adamw | flex: i'm not sure it's possible, there needs to be an ascii code for whatever you want to map |
| 09:23.32 | mcdull | babijoee, and I just used your apk to install back after removal. |
| 09:23.43 | adamw | flex: if there's an ascii code for tab you can stick that in the .kcm and it should work |
| 09:23.45 | stinebd | tab has an ascii code |
| 09:23.49 | adamw | then you can do it |
| 09:23.57 | stinebd | 0x09 or something |
| 09:24.07 | adamw | hmm, i think i put that in somewhere |
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| 09:24.24 | fleixius | adamw, Ahh excellent - which kcm file? |
| 09:24.28 | mcdull | babijoee, would you care to update the astro explorer as well? it expired... of course we can replace it by our own. |
| 09:24.38 | adamw | fleixius: well, whichever one you're using. i thought you were doing your own keymapping? |
| 09:24.52 | adamw | stinebd: oh yeah I did. the good news - it 'works'. the bad news - android's shell apparently has no tab completion. heh. |
| 09:25.06 | babijoee | hmmm i'll try to find one that doesn't have an expire |
| 09:25.19 | fleixius | adamw, Oh I didnt realize you could place them directly in that file. I figured the keyboard had a separate map file outside o the hard buttons. |
| 09:26.11 | mcdull | babijoee, thx. I guess I will do some editing tonight on the rootfs, to enable me to put everything into "android" folder. It is partially implemented in the init, but not complete. |
| 09:26.29 | adamw | fleixius: well it sorta depends. there are two drivers, for most hardware, yeah. some 'hard buttons' are really part of the keyboard though. what's your hardware again? |
| 09:26.38 | babijoee | mcdull: why would you want to do that? |
| 09:26.42 | adamw | fleixius: you probably want the microp-keypad file for whatever it is you're playing with |
| 09:26.43 | fleixius | adamw, rap100 fuze |
| 09:26.43 | stinebd | he has a raph110 |
| 09:26.54 | fleixius | bah 110 * |
| 09:27.38 | fleixius | I'll brb I have to get my charger. |
| 09:28.08 | babijoee | anyways i'm out. |
| 09:28.13 | babijoee | cya guys |
| 09:28.18 | stinebd | fleixius: if you're going to change the character map, i suggest you base it off of my original: http://maduin.southcape.org/~bryan/android/fuze.kcm |
| 09:28.37 | playdo | mcdull: cant emulatu ur problem atm |
| 09:28.49 | adamw | fleixius: then you want the fuze microp-keypad file, yeah. |
| 09:29.02 | adamw | stinebd: do the ctrl-c hack, you know you want to :P and map | as well. heh |
| 09:29.02 | playdo | mcdull what doesnt work with google voice? |
| 09:29.11 | adamw | damnit. we don't have iptables in this kernel? |
| 09:29.12 | mcdull | playdo, everything. |
| 09:29.38 | mcdull | playdo, if you cant go into deep sleep.. there will be no problem.. so you got to disable every power management in winmo first. |
| 09:29.46 | stinebd | adamw: i don't plan to support any keys that aren't drawn on the actual keyboard |
| 09:29.52 | stinebd | it confuses users |
| 09:30.02 | adamw | stinebd: just don't tell 'em! |
| 09:30.02 | playdo | how do i see that it isnt deep sleep? mcdull |
| 09:30.30 | adamw | oh, it's a module. sigh. |
| 09:30.33 | mcdull | playdo, if you can wake the machine with home button. |
| 09:30.34 | adamw | too late, i'll do this tomorrow. |
| 09:30.40 | fleixius | stinebd, yeah I agree it would confuse people - but us power users need functionality. |
| 09:30.46 | mcdull | playdo, then it wont be deep sleeping. |
| 09:30.51 | adamw | Markinus: if you have any more wireless ideas for me to test overnight, leave a message and i'll give it a shot in the morning |
| 09:31.04 | playdo | mcdull: then it is in deep sleep if i can only wake with power button? |
| 09:31.09 | stinebd | fleixius: that's why i provide the source. you're free to change your system however you like |
| 09:31.11 | fleixius | I'd really like to see a tab key as I always use SSH and other tools where tab completion would work wonders. |
| 09:31.22 | fleixius | stinebd, thanks for your map |
| 09:31.35 | mcdull | playdo, not vice versa.. but more likely. |
| 09:32.00 | adamw | fleixius: does whatever app you're using actually do tab completion? the terminal i'm using doesn't, it seems. |
| 09:32.05 | playdo | mcdull: i can start google voice |
| 09:32.15 | stinebd | tab is pretty easy to implement, i suggest setting it to fn+space |
| 09:32.16 | playdo | but im not activated for it |
| 09:32.22 | fleixius | adamw, I'm not sure - Ive never had the ability to test. |
| 09:32.24 | mcdull | playdo, did you use old data.img |
| 09:32.25 | mcdull | ? |
| 09:32.39 | playdo | no, took the build from today this morning |
| 09:32.42 | stinebd | actually it's probably already set to that |
| 09:32.44 | playdo | few hours ago |
| 09:32.49 | adamw | stinebd: yeah i think it's in your map |
| 09:33.08 | fleixius | stinebd, I was going to map it to the windows key |
| 09:33.10 | mcdull | playdo, I mean your data file.. a fresh data store or with your old settings and program? |
| 09:33.28 | playdo | phew |
| 09:33.33 | playdo | could be old |
| 09:33.42 | fleixius | I'm afraid to turn wifi on |
| 09:33.51 | mcdull | playdo, that's the reason that you can start. |
| 09:33.53 | playdo | w00t Oo got 10 programs running |
| 09:33.54 | fleixius | Last time I couldnt turn it off without my device locking up |
| 09:33.57 | playdo | what the hell |
| 09:33.57 | fleixius | :( |
| 09:34.31 | mcdull | playdo, anyway, babijoee agreed to take it out.. I won't have to do it myself.. |
| 09:34.31 | playdo | how do i create new data storage? cant format my card here mcdull |
| 09:34.38 | mcdull | delete data.img. |
| 09:34.43 | playdo | alright, k |
| 09:34.49 | mcdull | and you will LOST ALL settings and program |
| 09:34.54 | playdo | shall i try ? |
| 09:35.02 | mcdull | you should. |
| 09:35.19 | playdo | i deleted everything from my card before copying the new build |
| 09:35.27 | playdo | so it should be new storage or not? |
| 09:35.55 | mcdull | in that case , yes... but if you see old settings, like the google account is still there, the adata.img is not removed. |
| 09:36.05 | playdo | no, wasnt there |
| 09:36.31 | mcdull | so you need to setup the google account again? in that case, yes, it is new. |
| 09:36.41 | playdo | and i can wake from sleep with home button. so youre right mcdull |
| 09:36.41 | mcdull | and you can still start google voice? |
| 09:36.46 | playdo | yep |
| 09:36.55 | playdo | installed version 0.3 from market |
| 09:36.55 | mcdull | you got the google voice icon? |
| 09:37.15 | mcdull | market should not allow you to install. |
| 09:37.21 | playdo | yep "voice" with the white bubble icon |
| 09:37.31 | playdo | what? i installed it from there Oo |
| 09:38.02 | mcdull | umm.. let me try again now |
| 09:38.25 | playdo | k, i will star winmo an shut off the power settings |
| 09:38.35 | mcdull | my experience is that the market says "Google Voice" was installed but disabled the option for uninstall. |
| 09:38.43 | fleixius | playdo, Is it recommended to disable all power management from wm? |
| 09:39.16 | mcdull | fleixius, not recommended but you should have done so for power management in android to work.. at least for blackstone |
| 09:39.16 | playdo | market said "this version will replace google voice on ypur phone with version 0.3" or so |
| 09:40.01 | mcdull | playdo, no .. cant be.. unless you was using my custom build. |
| 09:40.16 | fleixius | mcdull, Define it working on android...it appears to be working and I havnet done anything to wm |
| 09:40.19 | mcdull | playdo, which is downloadable in blackstone forum. |
| 09:41.11 | mcdull | fleixius, in blackstone, you would never goes into deep sleep if you do not disable all of them. and can you test if you can adjust the screen brightness in android? |
| 09:42.02 | fleixius | mcdull, Yep brightness can be adjusted properly |
| 09:42.48 | mcdull | fleixius, if that is the case, it might be board specific.. you are not using blackstone, right? |
| 09:43.03 | stinebd | you don't need to do that stuff for raph100/110 |
| 09:43.27 | playdo | mcdull: i downloaded the version from babijoee's thread at xda-devs |
| 09:43.55 | fleixius | mcdull, Nope Im not...Im just making sure I get the most potential out of my fuze. I do need to compile a new kernel to enable more ram. |
| 09:43.56 | playdo | mcdull: is that what u mean? and how should i make power settings? |
| 09:44.36 | mcdull | playdo, anyway.. I have tried many times with different build. The markets refused to update. |
| 09:45.19 | mcdull | playdo, for blackstone user, you need to turn off ALL power management, and auto lighting (<-- for this one, I actually tried and had no effect at all, but it was recommended by others) |
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| 09:45.34 | playdo | mcdull like i said, i use this one (http://htcandroid.xland.cz/XDANDROID.4.02.10.7z) at the moment and i downloaded it from market |
| 09:45.40 | fleixius | I think everything works as it should other than GPS / Camera. |
| 09:45.57 | stinebd | and BT |
| 09:46.06 | fleixius | stinebd, yeah well I dont use BT any who. |
| 09:46.41 | mcdull | playdo, are you sure you started a fresh installation? coz I have just tried again couple minutes ago. |
| 09:47.11 | mcdull | fleixius, light sensor not working >.< |
| 09:47.20 | mcdull | I don't know why it was removed. |
| 09:47.39 | fleixius | mcdull Yeah thats probably the best feature to conserve battery power |
| 09:47.48 | playdo | mcdull: yes, is just "delet" all data on my card and i had to reenter my google account. but i didnt format my card |
| 09:48.13 | playdo | mcdull: i'm now waiting for deep sleep |
| 09:48.41 | mcdull | playdo, remove your usb cable .. it prevents the blackston from sleep |
| 09:49.13 | fleixius | Ahh sweet so far 15% battery life used over the course of 15 minutes |
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| 09:49.32 | mcdull | fleixius, also, the software mic does not works completely.. some program does not record sound from it. |
| 09:49.58 | fleixius | mcdull, I rarely use the mic - I havent found a good reason for it at least. I guess I should be more hands free ;-P |
| 09:50.17 | playdo | mcdull: thought i should test it with usb cable ^^ |
| 09:50.21 | mcdull | Its bad that I am in GMT +8.. cannot sync with other developer. |
| 09:50.36 | mcdull | playdo, then the machine will not sleep. |
| 09:50.52 | mcdull | fleixius, you will love the new voice keyboard. |
| 09:50.55 | playdo | ok, waiting again for sleep |
| 09:51.51 | fleixius | mcdull, Ha Im sure I would but I can never get around to actually using the voice options ina ndroid. |
| 09:52.10 | fleixius | Im always in a place where I cant speak freely and my best option is to just type it out my self |
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| 09:52.44 | mcdull | fleixius, ha.. sometiems voice search is very useful as well. |
| 09:52.53 | fleixius | Im just waiting for a visual voice mail app that works with att |
| 09:53.09 | fleixius | Without requiring me to redirect/forward my calls. |
| 09:53.19 | adamw | Markinus: oh, yeah, I almost forgot - stinebd and I thought about the two key pairs on the rhodium (the ptt button and the e key, and the up arrow and left arrow) but couldn't figure anything out |
| 09:53.38 | adamw | Markinus: I had a look with haretconsole at the GPIOs but it seems like *every* keypress gives the same GPIO |
| 09:53.54 | stinebd | i don't consider what i did as thought - it was mostly mindless rambling |
| 09:54.04 | adamw | Markinus: and we couldn't really figure out exactly how board-htcrhodium-keypad.c works |
| 09:54.08 | fleixius | Im just waiting for the battery fix mcdull - thats all I really care about. I'd like to know how much time left i have. |
| 09:54.12 | adamw | stinebd: that's my favourite kind of thought! |
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| 09:54.39 | adamw | Markinus: like, why keymap index 0,2 is used three times, fr'instance |
| 09:54.39 | playdo | mcdull: i think i'm in deep sleep. cant wake with soft buttons |
| 09:54.46 | Markinus | adamw: the keypad file is only for the keypad .. |
| 09:54.58 | Markinus | use the GPIOS to build a matrix . . |
| 09:55.07 | playdo | mcdull: waking with power button is possible |
| 09:55.25 | Markinus | you have very time a combination of some gpios when you press a keypad key |
| 09:55.40 | adamw | Markinus: as far as haretconsole could see, every key gives the same gpio |
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| 09:56.05 | adamw | they all seem to be mem GPIOS(6) 92e00c20=07b45006 (00000800) then mem GPIOS(6) 92e00c20=07b45806 (00000800) |
| 09:56.10 | adamw | no matter what key you press |
| 09:56.30 | playdo | mcdull: google voice has disappeared Oo |
| 09:56.41 | Markinus | no:) you send me a log with the unmapped keys, and there wware 3.1, 0.1, 1.0 .. etc. |
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| 09:56.47 | Markinus | this are diffrerent GPIOS |
| 09:57.09 | adamw | Markinus: well, that's what haretconsole saw. anyway, remember, the unmapped keys weren't the ones we thought |
| 09:57.27 | adamw | Markinus: it's not the ptt button or the up/left arrows that cause the 'unmapped key' messages |
| 09:57.34 | mcdull | playdo, may be you remembered the old days. |
| 09:58.02 | mcdull | playdo, coz I have tried it for a long long time and for this reason I build my own system.sqsh |
| 09:58.10 | Markinus | if this wouls be one, you had on every key the same function. . . maybe this is both. A GPIO for every key as event and the other GPIOS to differ which . . |
| 09:58.25 | adamw | Markinus: yeah it seems odd to me too but i really can't see any other gpio in haretconsole |
| 09:58.36 | playdo | mcdull: thats crazy, market says google voice is installed, but i cant open it |
| 09:58.37 | adamw | maybe it's the problem the haretconsole docs mention with very very short gpios? |
| 09:58.43 | adamw | oh well, i'll try again tomorrow maybe |
| 09:58.46 | adamw | just wanted to mention it |
| 09:58.50 | playdo | mcdull: so ure right in the end, something doesnt work |
| 09:59.01 | mcdull | playdo, that is not crazy... that is what I tested for the past month.. |
| 09:59.23 | Markinus | adamw: you can di a wirq and joinlist GPIOS, then you see the short one too |
| 09:59.24 | playdo | but why could i intall it, open it and after reset it is gone? |
| 09:59.35 | mcdull | playdo, it will goes right.. after the googlevoice being removed.. or you can do it by yourself. |
| 09:59.40 | Markinus | read about this in the docu . . |
| 09:59.55 | adamw | Markinus: i saw the wirq thing but didn't see anything about joinlist |
| 10:00.06 | adamw | Markinus: also I couldn't get the ibit thing for filtering results to work, so wirq is way too noisy |
| 10:00.26 | leobaillard | hey folks, I'm exploring the data.img databases and I see that the provider for the market is set to T-Mobile, do you think this have any implication on the market behavior or available apps ? |
| 10:00.29 | mcdull | playdo, no idea.. I have tried many times and cannot get it to work until I remove it. And I guess you didnt actually try to use it. |
| 10:00.48 | Markinus | adamw: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET_20Documentation |
| 10:00.59 | playdo | mcdull: no because i have no working account |
| 10:01.00 | adamw | Markinus: yup that's where I am |
| 10:01.15 | Markinus | search: High frequency polling |
| 10:01.18 | adamw | Markinus: oh, just saw it - way down below the other gpio bit. sigh |
| 10:01.32 | mcdull | you want one? |
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| 10:01.49 | adamw | Markinus: okay, i'll see if i can get anything out of that tomorrow |
| 10:02.01 | Markinus | ok |
| 10:02.11 | adamw | Markinus: off to bed now - like i said, leave a message if you have anything else for me to test. thanks again |
| 10:02.13 | cairnz | what could be causes for haret refusing to run? |
| 10:02.41 | Markinus | adamw: ok, gn! |
| 10:02.44 | adamw | night all |
| 10:02.47 | cairnz | my raphael says "cannot open file haret. either not signed with a cleared certificate, or one of the components doesn't exist. install this file again or restore it if problems persist" (loosely translated) |
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| 10:02.59 | cairnz | thing is i ran it like 20 minutes ago and it was no problem |
| 10:03.13 | Markinus | cairnz: did you export you sd card over usb?? :) |
| 10:03.24 | cairnz | i have a m2 card in the raphael |
| 10:03.30 | cairnz | and just copied it over through usb cable |
| 10:03.39 | cairnz | (it did work a couple of boots ago) |
| 10:04.06 | Markinus | dou you see the sd card in explorer? |
| 10:04.10 | cairnz | yes |
| 10:04.32 | Markinus | hmm, maybe filesystem wrong . . |
| 10:04.32 | cairnz | i see the phone, and inside phone is \ and \storage card |
| 10:05.16 | cairnz | it's fat32, and like i said, it did run it (and launch that eclair androind thing) - then i was going to reboot to show it off to some dude here and then haret.exe didn't want to run |
| 10:05.47 | cairnz | just removed battery to see if "such a boot" would help :p |
| 10:06.09 | mcdull | cairnz, check if you got activesync.exe running and eat all your cpu.. if so.. kills it. |
| 10:06.34 | mcdull | cairnz, I mean in your handset.. not the PC |
| 10:06.38 | playdo | mcdull: i have no need for google talk :( just wanted to help |
| 10:06.51 | cairnz | mcdull - i just booted the phone now, it's not connected |
| 10:06.57 | mcdull | playdo, that's okay.. The problem is sorted out anyway. |
| 10:07.29 | mcdull | cairnz, sometimes the activesync process goes wrong and prevent all other process to run.. that's real bad. |
| 10:07.56 | mcdull | off working... see you guys. |
| 10:08.08 | cairnz | there should be nothing running on it now - hmm |
| 10:10.51 | fleixius | What browser do you guys recommend thus far? |
| 10:12.31 | leobaillard | the T-Mobile stuff may impact MMS among other things ! look what I've found : http://www.google.com/oha/rdf/ua-profile-kila.xml |
| 10:12.42 | leobaillard | this is in a settings databse of android |
| 10:22.37 | fleixius | oh bad my batter is getting raped. |
| 10:22.46 | fleixius | bah* |
| 10:27.04 | cairnz | Markinus: i removed the sd card, and did a factory reset on phone, now it boots again |
| 10:27.24 | Markinus | cairnz: ohhh |
| 10:31.36 | leobaillard | crosses his fingers and hope not to have broken it all : |
| 10:34.01 | sektorNBA | morning |
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| 11:33.24 | IceBone | phh, here? |
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| 11:50.56 | playdo | re |
| 11:51.11 | playdo | where stands the development of the camere atm? |
| 11:54.56 | leobaillard | w00t ! I just had a porn ad in an android application !! :O |
| 11:55.56 | playdo | w00t xD |
| 11:56.09 | playdo | was it the popup with the videos? |
| 11:57.12 | leobaillard | nope, a text at the bottom saying "Click here for free amateur sex videos" |
| 11:57.30 | playdo | nice one ^^ |
| 11:57.40 | playdo | pr0ndroid |
| 11:58.24 | leobaillard | and before you guys ask, no I didn't click |
| 11:58.49 | playdo | sure |
| 11:58.52 | playdo | rolleyes |
| 12:00.12 | leobaillard | great ! my cell location now works after I deleted my data.img |
| 12:00.16 | leobaillard | weird... |
| 12:00.33 | leobaillard | waow, quite accurate :) |
| 12:00.43 | playdo | same here with google voice ^^ but vice verca |
| 12:00.59 | playdo | google voice worked --> restart --> doesnt wark |
| 12:01.01 | playdo | -a +o |
| 12:01.12 | playdo | is cell location an app? |
| 12:02.14 | leobaillard | nope |
| 12:02.52 | leobaillard | it's a feature, and it's not even named like that |
| 12:02.58 | leobaillard | but I can't remember the name |
| 12:03.16 | playdo | ah now i know what u mean. is diabled it |
| 12:03.17 | leobaillard | it gives you your approximate location by triangulating from cell tower positions |
| 12:03.23 | leobaillard | oh... |
| 12:03.26 | playdo | where can i look if it works? |
| 12:03.37 | leobaillard | google maps |
| 12:03.42 | playdo | its the one you can disable at the first boot or not? |
| 12:03.47 | leobaillard | yes |
| 12:03.57 | playdo | k, got the same on winmo for weather |
| 12:04.44 | IceBone | Geolocation. |
| 12:05.25 | leobaillard | thanks IceBone, my mind saviour :) |
| 12:05.33 | playdo | ^^ |
| 12:05.46 | IceBone | I'm leaving it on since GPS isn't working and it's quite good as it is for certain stuff (not navigation, of course). |
| 12:06.04 | playdo | e. g. if u get lost? :-D |
| 12:06.22 | IceBone | Nah, flickr has an option to look for pics "near you". |
| 12:06.24 | IceBone | Etc. |
| 12:07.37 | playdo | yep, that works on winmo too, but with gps i think |
| 12:08.24 | IceBone | Is there a footprints ap? |
| 12:08.45 | IceBone | Or is that Sense UI only? |
| 12:13.21 | playdo | footprint app i think |
| 12:13.25 | playdo | wait i look icebone |
| 12:13.30 | IceBone | Can't find it in the market. |
| 12:13.33 | IceBone | Only 8 footprints. |
| 12:13.35 | IceBone | Whatever that is. |
| 12:13.55 | IceBone | Wow, the new build is really fast! |
| 12:13.58 | playdo | aqh you mean for android? |
| 12:14.08 | IceBone | Yush. |
| 12:14.44 | playdo | got footprint on winmo with sense |
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| 12:15.18 | IceBone | Yeah, figures. |
| 12:15.32 | playdo | nothing similar for droid? |
| 12:16.28 | IceBone | I guess it is that 8 footprints thing. |
| 12:16.51 | playdo | yep googled it. seems to be |
| 12:17.26 | playdo | argh |
| 12:17.34 | playdo | wants to go home |
| 12:27.53 | IceBone | Wow, that was weird... |
| 12:28.04 | IceBone | I just got a warning on android that the battery is at only 63%. |
| 12:28.36 | playdo | take caution, it will explode at 100% |
| 12:34.50 | leobaillard | ah it feels great to have a fresh data.img and everything that is supposed to work, actually works :) |
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| 12:35.39 | IceBone | Hmm... when android becomes flashable, will we need a haret for winmo? |
| 12:36.22 | playdo | roflmao |
| 12:36.30 | playdo | saved my day icebone :D |
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| 12:36.43 | IceBone | I still need winmo as a backup, damn it :P |
| 12:37.48 | playdo | why? |
| 12:37.50 | ToAsTcfh | phh: http://pastebin.com/d3d2426df |
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| 12:37.57 | leobaillard | I hope I'll be able to get rid of winmo soon, now that I solved my calendar and contacts problem |
| 12:38.12 | leobaillard | the only things that prevents me from getting rid of it are gps and bluetooth |
| 12:38.25 | IceBone | Freezes during the night, mostly. I need the phone to be on in the morning for various reasons. |
| 12:38.45 | leobaillard | ToAsTcfh: ? |
| 12:39.11 | leobaillard | oh yeah, there is this bug... I'm investigating for phh on this one |
| 12:39.49 | playdo | icebone. winmo sucks too in the morning. i set alaram to 6am but my phone wrecked my time and it was suddenly pm |
| 12:39.56 | playdo | so no alarm at all ^^ |
| 12:40.04 | IceBone | :D |
| 12:40.17 | IceBone | 24h time ftw. |
| 12:40.42 | leobaillard | I don't trust my phone for the hard task of waking me up on time |
| 12:40.56 | leobaillard | nothing can replace a good old alarm clock |
| 12:41.00 | ToAsTcfh | i got to get to work. this is our source > http://github.com/jhansche/htc-2.6.27-heroc |
| 12:41.05 | IceBone | I love it when Android messes up the time and you fix it, then go into recent calls and they're from the future. |
| 12:41.58 | playdo | my fcuking alarm clock didnt work too and i got 24h time argh |
| 12:42.01 | leobaillard | ToAsTcfh: you're talking about camera ? |
| 12:42.21 | IceBone | playdo: works for me *shrug* |
| 12:42.43 | ToAsTcfh | yes |
| 12:42.50 | ToAsTcfh | msm_camera |
| 12:43.00 | leobaillard | waow ! gg and congrats :) |
| 12:43.06 | playdo | icebone: i think my location does fuck up some time |
| 12:43.20 | playdo | wahts with camera |
| 12:43.21 | playdo | ? |
| 12:43.44 | IceBone | Your location? |
| 12:43.54 | IceBone | Oh, ffs... pro/engineer crashed again. |
| 12:44.06 | IceBone | Fucking useless piece of shit multithousand euro worth of software... |
| 12:44.08 | playdo | location app from sense i mean |
| 12:44.18 | playdo | pro/engineer? |
| 12:44.29 | IceBone | You know Catia or SolidWorks? |
| 12:44.38 | playdo | got it |
| 12:44.47 | playdo | studying mech engineer |
| 12:44.59 | IceBone | Same thing. |
| 12:45.05 | playdo | but i dont know every bloody cad software ^^ |
| 12:45.09 | IceBone | :P |
| 12:45.28 | playdo | working on autodesk (autocad/inventor) |
| 12:45.29 | IceBone | I prefer it cause it comes with a good library. |
| 12:45.39 | playdo | and of course catia (ford ^^) |
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| 12:45.52 | playdo | autodesk got some good lib too |
| 12:46.17 | IceBone | And there's a module for building with standard I-profiles. |
| 12:46.55 | playdo | Oo dont know that |
| 12:47.07 | playdo | where are u from? |
| 12:47.10 | IceBone | For basic construction. |
| 12:47.11 | IceBone | Slovenia. |
| 12:47.30 | playdo | do u got so called "Normteile"? |
| 12:47.45 | IceBone | *shrug* |
| 12:47.51 | IceBone | :D |
| 12:48.06 | playdo | hmm dont know how to explain. we got "german industrial standard" |
| 12:48.17 | IceBone | Yeah, DIN and ISO. |
| 12:48.18 | playdo | for nearly everything, like I-profiles |
| 12:48.34 | playdo | right, so i just grab a I-profile and build ^^ |
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| 12:49.21 | IceBone | Yeah, but this is more advanced, builds its own reinforcements and connections. |
| 12:49.36 | IceBone | Then, depending on how much weight you put on it, it modifies everything. |
| 12:49.43 | IceBone | static calculations on the fly. |
| 12:49.56 | playdo | nice |
| 12:51.07 | IceBone | It does cost an extra 2 grand. :D |
| 12:51.33 | playdo | ^^ that not much compared to full price, is it? |
| 12:51.44 | IceBone | 4 grand for the basic package. |
| 12:51.48 | IceBone | 750 for sheetmetal. |
| 12:51.52 | IceBone | That's what I have now. |
| 12:52.47 | playdo | hmm thats quite cheap. i think inventor professional cost about 12 grand for a comopany |
| 12:52.48 | IceBone | And like a grand for support (new version upgrades, 24/7 tech support). |
| 12:52.57 | IceBone | Yeah, Pro/Engineer is quite cheap. |
| 12:53.12 | IceBone | So I'm willing to go along with its niggles. |
| 12:53.54 | playdo | u use it for ur job or what? |
| 12:54.35 | IceBone | Yes. |
| 12:56.24 | IceBone | Asphalt plants. |
| 12:56.36 | IceBone | Screens mostly, and other components if the client so desires. |
| 12:58.13 | playdo | not at work now? |
| 12:58.29 | IceBone | Am. :D |
| 12:58.34 | IceBone | But dual screen ftw. :D |
| 12:58.44 | IceBone | Plus, I work from home. |
| 12:58.47 | IceBone | Work for my dad. |
| 12:58.53 | IceBone | So, it's a lot more relaxed. |
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| 13:07.01 | playdo | i'm relaxed too, cause its a big company ^^ |
| 13:07.12 | playdo | like dilbert |
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| 13:13.58 | playdo | tries poking the boringness |
| 13:14.26 | playdo | was hit back by boringness |
| 13:14.38 | leobaillard | ^^ |
| 13:14.43 | playdo | cant defeat boringness |
| 13:14.50 | playdo | such a crap |
| 13:15.04 | leobaillard | lawl |
| 13:15.17 | playdo | gotta have to play with android ^^ dont want to write on my diploma thingy |
| 13:15.55 | leobaillard | will be better when we'll have 3D :) |
| 13:16.26 | leobaillard | have a look at this : |
| 13:16.27 | leobaillard | 13] * playdo tries poking the boringness |
| 13:16.29 | leobaillard | [14:14] * playdo was hit back by boringness |
| 13:16.31 | leobaillard | oops |
| 13:16.35 | leobaillard | http://www.journaldugeek.com/2010/01/26/50-jeux-android-dans-une-seule-video/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+LeJournalDuGeek+(le+Journal+du+Geek) |
| 13:17.21 | playdo | yep 3D is gonna be awesome |
| 13:17.51 | playdo | should have brought my eeepc with me to work |
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| 13:19.16 | playdo | the games look awesome |
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| 13:20.01 | playdo | leobaillard is it very likely that 3d drivers are developed in the near future? |
| 13:20.12 | IceBone | Please connect the charger, the battery is getting low: 45% remaining. WTF? |
| 13:20.30 | playdo | thats some weird bug |
| 13:20.43 | leobaillard | IceBone: still the battery problem you know... nobody managed to correct it yet |
| 13:21.29 | IceBone | Yes, but it's getting worse, isn't it? |
| 13:21.32 | IceBone | 45% |
| 13:21.39 | IceBone | Before it told me that it's 63%. |
| 13:22.28 | playdo | didnt got any message above 15% |
| 13:23.03 | IceBone | Both were during phone calls, though. |
| 13:23.23 | IceBone | Maybe it refreshed the screen after the phone call was over and it displayed what it was getting then. |
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| 13:30.33 | playdo | mcdull: what program do u use? |
| 13:30.45 | playdo | ^^ down |
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| 13:46.03 | IceBone | Off to class. |
| 13:46.15 | IceBone | 8-15 = work, 16-19 = class |
| 13:46.18 | IceBone | And my day is fuckt. |
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| 16:23.14 | Taypen | как веÑнÑÑÑ? |
| 16:23.24 | Boydell | english? |
| 16:24.19 | Taypen | sorry wrong tab :) |
| 16:24.41 | Boydell | oh lol |
| 16:24.42 | Boydell | ok |
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| 17:14.45 | noisyzen | & |
| 17:14.55 | Boydell | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:18.58 | noisyzen | it means i'm here, but i'm kinda away |
| 17:19.09 | Boydell | ah. never knew that. |
| 17:19.47 | noisyzen | a friend of mine taught me that |
| 17:19.55 | Boydell | nice. |
| 17:20.06 | noisyzen | Just looked it up and found it here: http://pound.perl.org/RTFM/pound.perl.guide.html |
| 17:20.16 | noisyzen | if you search for /me & |
| 17:20.16 | makkonen | doesn't it only mean that if everyone knows it means that? |
| 17:20.17 | noisyzen | lol |
| 17:20.26 | Boydell | ha |
| 17:20.30 | Boydell | was thinking that too |
| 17:20.33 | Boydell | oh well |
| 17:20.35 | noisyzen | ha, probably |
| 17:20.47 | Boydell | makkonen: glad to see you fixed power colapse, what was the problem? |
| 17:21.00 | noisyzen | it's the same concept as the age old question, "If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, does it still make a sound?" |
| 17:21.17 | noisyzen | ok, back to lurking. :) |
| 17:21.31 | makkonen | wait, you're going by what perl hackers consider good etiquette? Of course & has a whole meaning. %$%$#%^#$ probably means 'I hope you have a pleasant afternoon, good sir' to those freaks. |
| 17:22.10 | makkonen | I'm just kidding. I love the perl hackers. |
| 17:22.19 | noisyzen | LOL. I'm writing in perl as we spseak. but not hacking :) |
| 17:22.36 | noisyzen | and come to think of it, the person who told me about that does a ton of perl... |
| 17:23.01 | Boydell | makes sense then doesnt it? |
| 17:23.13 | makkonen | boydell: I don't know that it was actually broken. did you check the dmesg? the breathing stopped because of the change to the way LED effects were handled, I gather. |
| 17:24.12 | makkonen | anyway, I got MrPippy's .config, and built with that. It had the power collapse settings different, as well as a bunch of other things. That fixed it. |
| 17:24.30 | Boydell | I looked at it, but wasnt sure what is called/needed to see if its working. It just seems to wake up too fast for me to believe it was working. I havent tried the new package and kernal yet though |
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| 17:25.26 | makkonen | well, I ran it for 4 hours last night and it went down to 15% battery... which is about what I get with power collapse... so I couldn't tell. |
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| 17:25.46 | Boydell | Do you leave your phone booted into android all the time? |
| 17:26.11 | dcordes | GNUtoo, ping |
| 17:26.46 | GNUtoo | dcordes, hi |
| 17:27.58 | makkonen | nah. but I wanted to see how it was doing last night. new smd_tty workqueue thing from mrpippy seems to make cdma data... legitimately stable. I downloaded 3 or 4 podcasts and the worst that happened was at the end the radio went crazy, but the phone still didn't crash. |
| 17:28.18 | Boydell | nice! |
| 17:28.38 | Boydell | I've been leaving my phone on, and every morning I wake up to it booted back into winmo |
| 17:28.42 | Boydell | I dont know why |
| 17:28.51 | makkonen | ramconsole |
| 17:28.56 | dcordes | GNUtoo, any news? did your build work? |
| 17:29.05 | makkonen | and leave logcat running overnight. |
| 17:29.10 | Boydell | yah but they dont have timestamps do they? |
| 17:29.10 | GNUtoo | dcordes, what build? |
| 17:29.17 | dcordes | GNUtoo, x image |
| 17:29.52 | GNUtoo | dcordes, ah? I didn't know I was building x-image...I'm building e-image right now but for bug device |
| 17:30.51 | Boydell | makkonen: not sure what logcat is or what it does |
| 17:31.17 | dcordes | GNUtoo, then I misunderstood. I thought you were building an image with the purpose of testing xf86-video-msm on dream |
| 17:31.18 | makkonen | adb logcat |
| 17:31.32 | makkonen | heavy duty userspace logging. |
| 17:31.38 | makkonen | if android crashes, it will tell you why. |
| 17:31.41 | Boydell | hm |
| 17:31.48 | Boydell | Ill have to take a look at that |
| 17:31.54 | GNUtoo | dcordes, ah yes I was waiting for leviathan's work to be commited |
| 17:32.03 | GNUtoo | dcordes, I forgot that |
| 17:32.07 | GNUtoo | sorry |
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| 17:32.42 | Boydell | morning babijoee |
| 17:32.42 | dcordes | GNUtoo, the patch is already in pastebin |
| 17:32.46 | babijoee | hi |
| 17:32.47 | dcordes | GNUtoo, I have it saved locally |
| 17:33.10 | dcordes | GNUtoo, and the kernel headers thing requires a hack too and I don't know if it's good to commit that |
| 17:33.27 | dcordes | leviathan, ping |
| 17:33.31 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 17:33.39 | GNUtoo | the libc header hack |
| 17:33.40 | GNUtoo | lol |
| 17:33.46 | dcordes | yes |
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| 17:33.54 | dcordes | btw did you get rid of the ugly alsa hack thing? |
| 17:34.02 | GNUtoo | maybe we could do that: |
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| 17:34.38 | GNUtoo | dcordes, not yet...I had some exams and I was unshure of the result until yesterday |
| 17:35.04 | GNUtoo | so I had to study for the next exam time |
| 17:35.14 | GNUtoo | which would have been very soon after the firt one |
| 17:36.09 | dcordes | stupid exams... |
| 17:36.12 | GNUtoo | lol |
| 17:36.28 | GNUtoo | I'm glad there are more than one time slot for passing them |
| 17:36.57 | GNUtoo | also how would be as good at contributing at free software as now without the university |
| 17:37.01 | GNUtoo | I would only know perl |
| 17:37.13 | GNUtoo | and without object oriented programming |
| 17:37.16 | GNUtoo | lol |
| 17:38.29 | chamonix | hey guys |
| 17:38.39 | Boydell | hey chamonix |
| 17:39.31 | dcordes | GNUtoo, I will prolly learn some java in the 3rd semester. |
| 17:39.51 | dcordes | instead doing some good C from the beginning we do nothing but matlab |
| 17:39.57 | GNUtoo | strange...java is the first thing I learned at university |
| 17:40.01 | babijoee | hi chamonix |
| 17:40.17 | Boydell | first thing i learned was c# ... |
| 17:40.35 | Boydell | stupid universtiy |
| 17:40.44 | chamonix | hey Boydell & Boydell |
| 17:40.50 | chamonix | oops |
| 17:40.52 | chamonix | & babijoee |
| 17:40.54 | chamonix | :) |
| 17:40.58 | babijoee | :3 |
| 17:41.08 | chamonix | how were the penguins babijoee ? |
| 17:41.16 | babijoee | awesome lol |
| 17:41.29 | babijoee | had a awesome trip |
| 17:41.32 | chamonix | cool |
| 17:41.42 | babijoee | nice work on led effects :) |
| 17:41.44 | chamonix | did u get ur nexus fixed? |
| 17:41.52 | babijoee | yes i did :) |
| 17:41.58 | babijoee | involved updating radio |
| 17:41.59 | dcordes | GNUtoo, I guess we have very different programmes |
| 17:42.02 | chamonix | ty, it's still work in progress but it's a good start |
| 17:42.10 | dcordes | GNUtoo, I'm not studying CS |
| 17:42.10 | babijoee | definantly |
| 17:42.23 | GNUtoo | dcordes, ok...what are you studying? |
| 17:42.27 | chamonix | I'll add prefs and custom timers today/tomorrow |
| 17:42.31 | GNUtoo | Boydell, lol |
| 17:42.39 | babijoee | when i got a call, i thought my dpad was dirty as the ringer and center was flashing |
| 17:42.53 | babijoee | but then i thought it was intentional :) |
| 17:43.10 | Boydell | is there any progress with the while mic issue right now? |
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| 17:43.20 | babijoee | mic issue? |
| 17:43.28 | Boydell | having to call first |
| 17:43.45 | babijoee | or you can play a sound file |
| 17:44.10 | Boydell | while launching haret? |
| 17:45.17 | babijoee | we just need proper initialisation |
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| 17:45.41 | Captnoord | lol |
| 17:45.41 | Captnoord | k |
| 17:45.42 | makkonen | does someone know what happened to fix it on rhodium? (I'm not sure if it was the same issue... might've been that the speaker didn't work unless you made a call before booting on rhodium, whereas it's mic on raph800/diam500) |
| 17:45.44 | chamonix | babijoee: it is indeed :) for ringer and charge I've not much to change except selecting the effect, for notifications I have the problem of ending the effect..... I'm tying to detect when the corresponding app is being opened (e.g. SMS app) but the API is quite limited.... when I'll do for now is limit it to a certain time (e.g. 10s) with an optional repetition |
| 17:45.46 | Captnoord | got the bastard.... |
| 17:45.58 | Captnoord | char c9[]={MICROP_I2C_WCMD_MISC,0x08}; |
| 17:45.58 | Captnoord | printk("Something used micropklt_lcd_ctrl. This function should no longer be used.\n"); |
| 17:46.08 | Captnoord | microp-klt.c |
| 17:46.20 | Captnoord | I really like the debug message |
| 17:46.27 | Captnoord | but.... it spams the system atm |
| 17:46.44 | Captnoord | and I also think its one of the reasons the battery is draining |
| 17:47.06 | Captnoord | mainly because of the spamming |
| 17:47.13 | Captnoord | linux-msm\drivers\i2c\chips\microp-klt.c |
| 17:47.28 | chamonix | from my experience overflowing dmesg is not causing any drain |
| 17:47.50 | Captnoord | i'm totaly fine with that |
| 17:47.52 | chamonix | preventing sleep is on the other hand |
| 17:47.58 | makkonen | holy crap, the htc supersonic on sprint looks like the perfect phone. wtg sprint. |
| 17:48.18 | Boydell | link? |
| 17:49.02 | makkonen | http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/01/18/htc-supersonic-to-hit-sprint-with-wimax-on-board/ |
| 17:49.45 | makkonen | and I'll never get it because it'll be $600 and not on SERO. oh well. |
| 17:50.30 | makkonen | I was hoping it'd come with winmo and end up on the sero list. |
| 17:50.57 | Boydell | ok what is sero? |
| 17:51.04 | adamw | good sprint data plan |
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| 17:51.14 | adamw | which they're trying like hell to get people off |
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| 17:51.26 | graziano | leviathan, ping |
| 17:51.26 | Boydell | ha |
| 17:51.27 | makkonen | the best cell phone plan ever. which apparently loses sprint money like whoa. |
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| 17:52.16 | makkonen | $30/mo, 500 minutes, unlimited data, free roaming on verizon, unlimited m2m, etc. |
| 17:52.45 | babijoee | US has great plans |
| 17:53.01 | babijoee | AU internet is slow growing and expensive |
| 17:53.04 | Boydell | holy shit! |
| 17:53.04 | adamw | ahaha free roaming on verizon? that's just insane |
| 17:53.08 | babijoee | i pay 8$ for 500mb |
| 17:53.09 | adamw | i hadn't heard that bit before |
| 17:53.17 | adamw | wonders how much verizon screws them over on that |
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| 17:54.07 | makkonen | I think sprint has done a lot of dumb things in the past to try to stop the bleeding... and has left them with some stupid plans out there. I'm not complaining. |
| 17:54.10 | babijoee | chamonix: any recent development for android nand? |
| 17:54.42 | phh | [00:16:09] <adamw> is the LED stuff expected to work on all phones or just specific ones? <----- only raph/diam |
| 17:54.59 | adamw | phh: ok |
| 17:55.00 | babijoee | hi phh |
| 17:55.04 | phh | hi babijoee |
| 17:55.06 | adamw | morning phh |
| 17:55.22 | adamw | has another shot at doing usb tethering |
| 17:55.22 | phh | it's 7pm :p |
| 17:55.29 | adamw | no, it's not. |
| 17:55.30 | adamw | :P |
| 17:55.32 | babijoee | its 4:55 -.-" |
| 17:55.34 | babijoee | am* |
| 17:55.41 | makkonen | no, it's not |
| 17:55.44 | phh | adamw: you mean an automated way or manual one ? |
| 17:56.06 | adamw | phh: i was fiddling with iptables. there's an automated way? or are you talking about that pdanet crap? |
| 17:56.12 | Boydell | its 1pm :) |
| 17:56.15 | phh | doing scripts ? :p |
| 17:56.28 | phh | (that's what I mean with "automated".) |
| 17:57.25 | Captnoord | spams phh with his micropklt_lcd_ctrl message |
| 17:57.25 | Captnoord | :P |
| 17:57.31 | phh | [00:27:36] <adamw> like I said, though, if wifi's different on topaz and rhodium, won't BT be different too? <---- basic bluetooth (ie 115200 bauds.) should easily works |
| 17:57.42 | phh | Captnoord: that much ? |
| 17:57.46 | phh | I'll have to take a look at it. |
| 17:57.46 | Captnoord | yup |
| 17:57.54 | Captnoord | it uberly spams... |
| 17:57.59 | Captnoord | making my phone not booting |
| 17:58.05 | Boydell | makkonen: adb working with new build? Im getting device offline? |
| 17:58.12 | Captnoord | many users.. of the raph series have this |
| 17:58.22 | Captnoord | many people use a diff base files to fix this |
| 17:58.27 | phh | [00:28:45] <adamw> i suspect the bcm4329 is supposed to do BT on rhodium as well, though, so it won't work until that driver's going <------ same chip, but not same driver, BT is done through serial port, and should be easy to get working |
| 17:58.36 | Captnoord | diff rootfs stuff |
| 17:58.37 | phh | Captnoord: "base file" ? |
| 17:58.54 | adamw | phh: ooh, I see. d'oh, shoulda realized I didn't see any BT stuff in the driver file :) |
| 17:58.58 | Captnoord | its of course related to how micropklt module works |
| 17:59.09 | makkonen | boydell: add echo 2 > /sys/devices/platform/msm_hsusb/usb_function_switch to your custom shell commands in eclair.user.conf... or just write it in the terminal. |
| 17:59.33 | Boydell | i did |
| 17:59.33 | adamw | goddamnit i'm tired of playing iptables module dependency bingo |
| 17:59.40 | phh | adamw: and you have bcm4325 not bcm4329 |
| 17:59.40 | Boydell | the devies is "there" |
| 17:59.45 | phh | which has wwwwwaaaaaaayyyyyy less features. |
| 17:59.48 | adamw | phh: yeah, we know |
| 17:59.53 | adamw | phh: keep reading the scrollback :D |
| 17:59.56 | phh | ok |
| 18:00.09 | adamw | phh: I found a rom / source dump for the lg gw620, which has the 4325 as well |
| 18:00.11 | Boydell | makkonen: adb devices shows 00000000000000000 offline |
| 18:00.18 | phh | adamw: samsung i7500 too |
| 18:00.19 | makkonen | hmm |
| 18:00.31 | adamw | phh: so it has firmware and an nvram file and an excitingly old version of the driver, heh |
| 18:00.46 | phh | I guess N1's one is the newest available ? |
| 18:00.47 | Boydell | got it working |
| 18:00.54 | adamw | phh: haven't found anything newer, yeah |
| 18:01.01 | adamw | i posted the versions somewhere in scrollback |
| 18:01.14 | makkonen | boydell what'd you need to do? |
| 18:03.21 | Boydell | makkonen: well i have two different adb's, one for xda or something, and one that came with the adnroid sdk |
| 18:03.41 | Boydell | makkonen: the one from xda will start the daemon but not connect |
| 18:03.47 | Boydell | then the sdk one connects |
| 18:03.49 | makkonen | ah |
| 18:03.52 | Boydell | idk its fucked |
| 18:03.55 | phh | [01:17:59] <adamw> MrPippy: how did we get the calibrations for other phones? <----- we used android phone's calibration files :D |
| 18:04.07 | phh | (we know how to read it from nand too thuogh) |
| 18:04.40 | adamw | phh: yeah we were looking at the nand thing a bit later, but with the n1 and gw620 dumps i guess it really shouldn't be needed |
| 18:04.48 | phh | [01:19:34] <Markinus> we could dump /proc/calibration on a nexus . . <------- babijoee provided you with it ? |
| 18:04.57 | makkonen | boydell: if you're in windows, grab droid explorer. little (ok a lot) buggy, but pretty file explorer and shell/logcat both have nice colors and everything. |
| 18:05.18 | adamw | man, watching phh play catchup is like some kinda awesome Yesterday Morning Wayback Machine :P |
| 18:05.23 | babijoee | ooo need me to dump something from my nex? |
| 18:05.39 | phh | adamw: iirc there is someone here with a samsung galaxy which also has bcm4325 |
| 18:05.47 | phh | babijoee: dd if=/proc/calibration of=/sdcard/plouf |
| 18:05.54 | makkonen | adamw: protip: you can just read his responses to scrollback instead of actually reading scrollback yourself. way more efficient. |
| 18:06.01 | adamw | makkonen: ooh. nice one. |
| 18:06.03 | Boydell | makkonen: yah i have that. keep forgetting i do |
| 18:06.15 | adamw | makkonen: I should convince him to join #fedora-qa , it'd save me so much time |
| 18:06.38 | phh | [01:32:31] <adamw> might be less tiring than making usbnet work, is that complex? as i said earlier, 'ifconfig' already shows a usb0 interface with an ip address but i'm not entirely sure what that means <----- usbnet just works for me :/ |
| 18:07.09 | adamw | phh: yeah I realized late last night that actually it just works for me too |
| 18:07.15 | phh | [01:36:09] <adamw> which of the mtd drivers need to be loaded exactly? is just mtd_blkdevs and mtdblock_ro enough? that looks like the safest combo <------ iirc only mtdchar works if you're not using yaffs2 |
| 18:07.16 | phh | adamw: lol ok |
| 18:07.18 | babijoee | uhh not sure what that means |
| 18:07.21 | adamw | phh: well, I can ping one from the other, so i'm assuming it works |
| 18:07.42 | adamw | haven't installed an sshd yet |
| 18:07.49 | phh | and to read with mtdchar, do dd if=/dev/mtd/mtd0ro bs=4096 of=/sdcard/plouf |
| 18:07.58 | phh | (bs has to be a multiple of 2048 at least) |
| 18:08.00 | phh | adamw: use telnetd |
| 18:08.06 | adamw | phh: right. we probably don't need that yet though. |
| 18:08.19 | phh | adamw: having a full dump is still nice to have :p |
| 18:08.29 | adamw | phh: if you want it i'll do it then |
| 18:09.00 | adamw | is not quite sure why he's wasting so much time on wifi when he never frickin' uses it anyway |
| 18:09.06 | adamw | oh well. other people want it. |
| 18:09.37 | makkonen | adamw: higher good. nice. |
| 18:09.38 | adamw | oh yay i'm telnetted in. well this will make shit easier. |
| 18:10.22 | babijoee | someone explain to me how to : dd if=/proc/calibration of=/sdcard/plouf |
| 18:10.35 | adamw | babijoee: it's just a command you run in a terminal on the phone (or logged into the phone) |
| 18:10.41 | babijoee | ooo |
| 18:10.51 | adamw | it reads the 'file' /proc/calibration and dumps it to /sdcard/plouf |
| 18:11.05 | adamw | then you upload plouf somewhere |
| 18:11.27 | babijoee | ok thanks |
| 18:11.30 | adamw | dd is great, I use it for backups when markinus wants me to install some 1.6 crap to test something |
| 18:11.40 | adamw | dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=myandroid.img |
| 18:11.46 | adamw | makes an exact dump of my sdcard partition |
| 18:11.58 | adamw | then i do whatever i need, then do the reverse dd...and I have my android back. |
| 18:13.02 | chamonix | babijoee: no, nand is still working like a charm... phh gave me a few hints but it still required a kernel with yaffs support compiled-in for now, once effects service is feature complete that's definitely what I'll work on |
| 18:13.48 | phh | adamw: btw, did you try using lg gw620 or samsung galaxy's bluetooth stack ? |
| 18:13.57 | chamonix | hey phh |
| 18:14.10 | adamw | phh: no, as I was still thinking we'd need bcm4325 before bluetooth would work |
| 18:14.15 | adamw | (aka being an idiot) |
| 18:15.19 | phh | hi chamonix |
| 18:15.20 | phh | chamonix: I'll make you a script to use glemsom's kernel. |
| 18:15.20 | phh | adamw: well you might have some problems with gpio. |
| 18:15.24 | adamw | by 'stack' you just mean the userspace stuff? or their kernel bluetooth modules too? |
| 18:15.32 | phh | they have bluetooth modules ? |
| 18:15.41 | phh | I mean apart the network protocol itself |
| 18:15.44 | adamw | well, kernel bluetooth code. however they build it. i didn't look. |
| 18:16.07 | phh | but I meant about userland. |
| 18:16.38 | adamw | ah. no, i didn't |
| 18:16.45 | adamw | ok hit me with one thing at a time here :P |
| 18:16.49 | adamw | still working on the dump |
| 18:21.58 | chamonix | phh: sure I'd be happy with that, on the other hand I still want to understand the at least the ramzswap and initrd in order to be able to load mtd* at fron for testing my homebrew kernels :P |
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| 18:24.24 | adamw | i think i'm killing my cheapo android sd card, i get a Mysterious Random Boot Failure about one boot out of three now. heh. |
| 18:24.30 | Boydell | keystore( 1570): chdir: /data/misc/keystore: Permission denied |
| 18:24.35 | Boydell | whats up with that? |
| 18:24.49 | adamw | well, you don't have execute permission on /data/misc/keystore ? |
| 18:25.23 | Boydell | I guess not? but its not something IM tryin to do |
| 18:25.26 | Boydell | thats android |
| 18:25.30 | Boydell | not having permission |
| 18:25.39 | tmzt | it probably lacks +x |
| 18:26.46 | babijoee | hmmm cannot open for write: permission denied |
| 18:27.18 | Captnoord | babijoee: do you know if you still use "micropklt_lcd_ctrl" stuff in your releases |
| 18:27.45 | babijoee | Captnoord: i wouldn't have a clue :p |
| 18:27.51 | Captnoord | k |
| 18:28.03 | Captnoord | as its spamming most raph users.. with your release |
| 18:28.09 | Captnoord | using your release* |
| 18:28.13 | babijoee | you'll have to ask others |
| 18:28.15 | babijoee | hmmm |
| 18:28.31 | babijoee | it is just spamming messages? |
| 18:28.40 | Captnoord | majorly |
| 18:28.54 | babijoee | but not affecting functionality? |
| 18:29.26 | makkonen | just on raph100, or what? |
| 18:29.54 | Captnoord | forum is full of it |
| 18:29.58 | Boydell | I think i see it, but only on startup, ill tell you in a minute |
| 18:29.59 | Captnoord | only seems to be raph |
| 18:30.13 | adamw | if you're talking about stuff like: [ 395.704284] microp-klt: Setting lcd-backlight brightness to: 0x10 |
| 18:30.16 | adamw | i get that. |
| 18:30.24 | Boydell | no no |
| 18:30.27 | adamw | oh kay. |
| 18:30.41 | phh | [07:17:21] <makkonen> has power collapse stopped causing the LEDs to breathe since the changes were pushed to allow userspace to access them? <---- theorically, no |
| 18:30.42 | makkonen | something about using the wrong function for microp-klt |
| 18:30.58 | makkonen | phh: it's been moved to LEDEffects, right? (which I didn't have installed at the time) |
| 18:31.04 | phh | no |
| 18:31.07 | phh | the sleep part is still in kernel |
| 18:31.27 | phh | but if sleep_effects is written, then it overrides the sleep_leds |
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| 18:31.35 | phh | (well actually the last written overwrites the other) |
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| 18:33.22 | Boydell | is there a way to tell in the dmesg weather its going to sleep? |
| 18:33.38 | phh | just read it :p |
| 18:33.59 | adamw | well that's fucking dandy |
| 18:34.10 | adamw | if i don't boot to android, i can't telnet in |
| 18:34.26 | makkonen | ... |
| 18:34.30 | adamw | http://fpaste.org/2gXg/ |
| 18:34.41 | adamw | that's what i get trying to telnet in if I just boot to a console and run telnetd |
| 18:34.51 | adamw | if i boot to android and run telnetd, i can connect fine |
| 18:34.57 | adamw | sigh. |
| 18:34.59 | makkonen | it's like it hates you, isn't it? |
| 18:35.07 | adamw | i just want to be loved |
| 18:35.10 | adamw | *weeps* |
| 18:35.11 | Boydell | phh: i didnt know if something got written. I see sending arm9_low_speed 2 |
| 18:35.25 | Boydell | im assuming thats parts of sleep |
| 18:35.28 | phh | that's done on early_suspend, not true suspend |
| 18:35.45 | adamw | personally i blame google. heh. |
| 18:35.48 | adamw | okay, planb |
| 18:35.49 | phh | (early_suspend ~= screen off) |
| 18:35.57 | makkonen | hmm. I might've built it with the wrong suspend. |
| 18:36.03 | MrPippy | adamw: you probably have to make some special device nodes first |
| 18:36.16 | Boydell | this was one i built but off your repo. |
| 18:36.32 | Boydell | after that, active wake lock PowerManagerService |
| 18:36.33 | phh | [08:05:19] <adamw> babijoee: calibration stuff is phh's i think? <------ me and makkonen |
| 18:36.36 | Boydell | thats about it |
| 18:36.52 | babijoee | ok |
| 18:37.07 | makkonen | beams |
| 18:37.10 | babijoee | updating that now |
| 18:37.46 | adamw | MrPippy: uh, really? i can't think of any that telnet needs offhand. then it's been about 15 years since i used telnet, heh. |
| 18:37.49 | makkonen | boydell: it probably didn't work when I used the defconfig from the repo. try the one I posted, it was built with a different config. |
| 18:37.59 | phh | [08:07:55] <playdo> what about calibration for blackstone? <----- yeah... not today :p |
| 18:38.01 | MrPippy | its some device nodes, ptmx i think |
| 18:38.15 | phh | makkonen: who has latest calibration's code ? you or me ? |
| 18:38.16 | adamw | maybe it needs ttys? |
| 18:38.29 | makkonen | phh: I do, I think. |
| 18:38.34 | phh | [08:09:01] <mcdull> yes. any idea of why the tssc not being impletemented in blackstone? <------- buttons are handled by touchscreen -_-' |
| 18:38.47 | MrPippy | yeah i'll look at my rootfs and see |
| 18:38.54 | adamw | thanks |
| 18:38.56 | phh | makkonen: mind pasting it somewhere ? |
| 18:38.59 | adamw | for now i'm doing what i suggested yesterday |
| 18:39.07 | adamw | just sticking the commands to do the dump into the init script |
| 18:39.23 | makkonen | phh: http://pastebin.com/f71e14a69 |
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| 18:39.58 | phh | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.19 | phh | ok I see makkonen already answered everything actually. |
| 18:41.19 | makkonen | I didn't answer anything about multitouch. I think I missed reading that line. multitouch? c'mon. I've seen how resistive screens handle multiple touches. |
| 18:41.55 | Boydell | makkonen: how many reboots before data worked? |
| 18:42.02 | makkonen | ~3 |
| 18:42.03 | apt | 3 is a number, silly |
| 18:42.14 | makkonen | hush, you. |
| 18:42.15 | Boydell | wtf? |
| 18:42.21 | Boydell | ~3 |
| 18:42.22 | apt | 3 is a number, silly |
| 18:42.31 | makkonen | apt takes commands starting with ~. |
| 18:42.39 | Boydell | I dont get that bot. I need to find all its commands |
| 18:43.15 | babijoee | lol funny bot |
| 18:45.55 | MrPippy | adamw: put these before the telnet commands http://pastebin.com/f731ffa02 |
| 18:46.19 | adamw | doh, /dev/pts wasn't there? heh. the things you assume. |
| 18:47.18 | Boydell | 3 reboots, data is still dead. :( |
| 18:47.54 | MrPippy | yeah init.android makes pts |
| 18:47.56 | babijoee | Boydell: data working for you before? |
| 18:48.05 | Boydell | yup it was |
| 18:48.06 | babijoee | i used apns from nexus one |
| 18:48.14 | babijoee | i haven't merged it with xda version |
| 18:48.22 | Boydell | thats why. im on telus |
| 18:48.22 | babijoee | i'll get on it tommorow |
| 18:48.39 | babijoee | hehe |
| 18:48.44 | Boydell | where are the APN's stored? |
| 18:48.46 | makkonen | I don't understand why it didn't work for a bunch of reboots and then did. that's really baffling to me. |
| 18:48.54 | adamw | Boydell: you can do it graphically in the settings |
| 18:49.06 | adamw | Boydell: just poke around, it's the bottom entry in one of the wireless settings lists |
| 18:49.13 | babijoee | in /system/etc/apns-conf.xml |
| 18:49.45 | makkonen | settings > wireless & network > mobile networks or something |
| 18:49.51 | Boydell | adamw: I have NO idean what to put though lol |
| 18:50.04 | adamw | telus cdma or gsm? |
| 18:50.08 | adamw | uh, hspa |
| 18:50.15 | Boydell | telus cdma |
| 18:50.20 | makkonen | go look at it and see what it says. I'm curious. |
| 18:50.36 | Boydell | look at what makkonen? |
| 18:50.40 | makkonen | basically it just needs to be a placeholder apn, |
| 18:51.00 | adamw | i think you just set it to like 'internet.com' or something |
| 18:51.05 | adamw | but i'm on hspa so dunno for sure |
| 18:51.19 | makkonen | settings > wireless & networks > mobile networks > access point names |
| 18:51.30 | babijoee | hspa? |
| 18:51.33 | adamw | MrPippy: i'm in, thanks |
| 18:51.43 | adamw | babijoee: yknow, 3.5G. |
| 18:51.48 | babijoee | ooo |
| 18:52.09 | babijoee | isnt it hspda |
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| 18:52.32 | babijoee | hsdpa* |
| 18:52.42 | Boydell | well I set APN to internet.com, lets see if that works |
| 18:52.56 | babijoee | entering APN manually works also |
| 18:53.20 | adamw | babijoee: opinions differ :P hsdpa is downstream, hsupa is upstream, hspa is both. i think. anyway |
| 18:53.24 | makkonen | boydell: was there anything in there? |
| 18:53.26 | ToAsTcfh | phh: u ever look at the camera stuff? |
| 18:53.35 | adamw | phh: after loading the modules I have no /dev/mtd* , do I have to manually create the nodes? |
| 18:53.55 | Boydell | makkonen: no, everything was "not set" pretty much. changed name to "telus" and APN to "internet.com" |
| 18:53.56 | babijoee | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:54.02 | Boydell | and it rebooted |
| 18:54.03 | Boydell | ha |
| 18:54.27 | makkonen | boydell: I think it's supposed to be name: Android: APN: internet |
| 18:54.40 | Boydell | maybe? |
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| 18:54.54 | makkonen | huh. made mine reboot too. |
| 18:54.58 | makkonen | interesting. |
| 18:56.01 | MrPippy | which modules did you load? |
| 18:56.15 | babijoee | well i'm off guys :) gnite |
| 18:56.26 | Boydell | night babijoee |
| 18:56.28 | makkonen | me? compcache and tiwlan |
| 18:56.38 | adamw | MrPippy: started with just mtdchar as phh recommended . then I tried the others. |
| 18:56.52 | makkonen | oh. not me. that makes more sense. |
| 18:57.44 | Boydell | makkonen: those settings I put in seem to have worked |
| 18:57.47 | MrPippy | did you load msm_nand? |
| 18:57.51 | makkonen | cool. |
| 18:59.13 | adamw | MrPippy: no. my kernel config doesn't actually build that...maybe it's built in, lemme check |
| 18:59.20 | adamw | it's built in |
| 18:59.34 | adamw | oh, /proc/mtd shows it... |
| 18:59.35 | adamw | dev: size erasesize name |
| 18:59.35 | adamw | mtd0: 20000000 00020000 "msm_nand" |
| 18:59.39 | adamw | i guess i just need an mknod |
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| 19:01.47 | MrPippy | anything in /dev/block ? |
| 19:02.04 | adamw | MrPippy: loops and mmcblks |
| 19:02.08 | adamw | and ramzswap |
| 19:02.34 | phh | [09:26:38] <makkonen> nice. youtube works with the extra ram. <----- that seems really weird ... |
| 19:02.49 | adamw | MrPippy: I did an mknod and the dd is now running. no idea if it's doing what it should be, though. |
| 19:03.30 | makkonen | phh: leobaillard confirmed it worked even without. I'd just never bothered to try before because everything was so slow I imagined it would be terrible. |
| 19:03.58 | phh | strange, it doesn't work for me, I run in some copybits errors |
| 19:04.04 | phh | makkonen: both lowres and highres works ? |
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| 19:04.24 | adamw | MrPippy: how big should the dump wind up being? |
| 19:04.28 | makkonen | huh. didn't try high res. I would doubt it works. |
| 19:04.37 | MrPippy | 512mb i think |
| 19:04.39 | stinebd | i had lowres youtube (and my own streaming) working before as well |
| 19:05.19 | ToAsTcfh | phh: i seen u discussing multitouch. i just wanted to let it be known also that .27 multitouch driver doesnt seem to work in 2.x android. well it does kinda... it sees it when u multitouch. but it doesnt register on the apps. prolly cuz the multitouch was hacked into 1.5 and its native in 2.x. also backporting .29 driver looked to be a pain. again this is all on my hero and other android devices |
| 19:05.43 | phh | ToAsTcfh: strange, backporting should be easy |
| 19:06.06 | ToAsTcfh | yeah it looked to be kinda deep in the kernel to me |
| 19:06.10 | adamw | MrPippy: yikes, only at 95mb so far, gonna take a bit :) |
| 19:06.25 | adamw | phh: does this look okay to you? (/proc/mtd showed the device after loading the modules, but I had to manually mknod /dev/mtd0 ) |
| 19:06.39 | ToAsTcfh | like i was gonna be changing stuff that was breaking other stuff kinda thing |
| 19:06.56 | phh | [09:49:35] <leobaillard> does someone else than me has issues with cell tower localisation ? <----- ask chamonix for help |
| 19:07.11 | ToAsTcfh | any how camera man? |
| 19:07.22 | ToAsTcfh | did u ever look? |
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| 19:10.27 | ToAsTcfh | i know its something to do with the loading of vfe. (ie its just not doing it) it registers fine though |
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| 19:11.30 | ToAsTcfh | something is missing in the backport somewhere that will alow for vfe to be loaded |
| 19:12.04 | ToAsTcfh | qcam goes off without an issue |
| 19:12.47 | ToAsTcfh | vfe is always failing to start before write of something else |
| 19:13.09 | phh | [13:46:10] <IceBone> Hmm... when android becomes flashable, will we need a haret for winmo? <--- if it's truly flashable there won't be any remaining wimo -_-' |
| 19:13.22 | phh | ToAsTcfh: what's in dmesg again ? |
| 19:13.43 | ToAsTcfh | http://pastebin.com/d3d2426df |
| 19:14.31 | ToAsTcfh | # |
| 19:14.31 | ToAsTcfh | <6>[ 813.504882] msm_camera: vfe_7x_release:235:Calling vfe_7x_stop() |
| 19:14.31 | ToAsTcfh | # |
| 19:14.31 | ToAsTcfh | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:14.31 | ToAsTcfh | # |
| 19:14.33 | ToAsTcfh | <3>[ 813.505340] adsp: module VFETASK not enabled before write |
| 19:14.35 | ToAsTcfh | # |
| 19:14.36 | phh | ToAsTcfh: mmm might sound like wrong qdsp5 backport then |
| 19:14.37 | ToAsTcfh | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:14.39 | ToAsTcfh | # |
| 19:14.41 | ToAsTcfh | <6>[ 813.507019] msm_camera: vfe_7x_stop:216: failed rc = -19 |
| 19:14.51 | ToAsTcfh | yeah idk |
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| 19:15.52 | ToAsTcfh | its killing me because ive tried to compare with .29 and it gets ugly when trying to compare qdsp5 with qdsp_comp |
| 19:16.21 | phh | [14:30:32] <playdo> leobaillard is it very likely that 3d drivers are developed in the near future? <----- we do have 3D drivers (and it's even working in donut), but eclair borke everything. |
| 19:16.33 | phh | ToAsTcfh: you tried comparing the vfe_task activation ? |
| 19:16.44 | stinebd | clearly the answer is to revert to donut |
| 19:16.48 | ToAsTcfh | yeah |
| 19:16.50 | adamw | that's what markinus does |
| 19:16.59 | adamw | every frickin' thing he asks me to test is a 1.6 image, heh |
| 19:17.03 | phh | stinebd: yeah... I don't want to support two builds at a time |
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| 19:17.18 | phh | what's new in eclair again |
| 19:17.25 | phh | pretty much nothing. right. |
| 19:17.27 | stinebd | stuff |
| 19:17.34 | stinebd | voice something or other |
| 19:17.38 | stinebd | who knows |
| 19:17.47 | ToAsTcfh | lots of stuff |
| 19:17.48 | phh | stinebd: yes voice control, but I think that's pretty much everything. |
| 19:17.50 | stinebd | slower app drawer |
| 19:17.59 | phh | stinebd: memory eater |
| 19:18.07 | ToAsTcfh | dex optimising |
| 19:18.09 | adamw | that neat slide-to-unlock thing |
| 19:18.10 | stinebd | can we back port all that stuff? ;) |
| 19:18.14 | adamw | i can't live without it! |
| 19:18.17 | phh | ToAsTcfh: hum, for me dex is kernel stuff. |
| 19:18.21 | phh | so I can't see the link :p |
| 19:18.32 | ToAsTcfh | no dex in the apps |
| 19:18.37 | ToAsTcfh | odex |
| 19:18.51 | ToAsTcfh | turned into classes.dex |
| 19:18.58 | phh | mmm ? |
| 19:19.01 | phh | what's that ? |
| 19:19.46 | ToAsTcfh | the odex of each apk is smali up and made into a classes.dex file |
| 19:20.08 | ToAsTcfh | then used by android for dex-opt |
| 19:20.10 | Boydell | anyone know what apps randomly load all the time in the backround without me opening them? and after i kill them? |
| 19:20.48 | ToAsTcfh | suppose to make for better app management |
| 19:20.57 | ToAsTcfh | phh:^^^^ |
| 19:21.03 | Boydell | there has to be a way to stop that though |
| 19:21.12 | ToAsTcfh | its better in al;ot of ways |
| 19:22.21 | ToAsTcfh | phh: when i was working on hacking androids frameworks i had to deodex it to get the smali files i needed to edit |
| 19:22.42 | ToAsTcfh | then smali it back |
| 19:22.44 | phh | <adamw> phh: after loading the modules I have no /dev/mtd* , do I have to manually create the nodes? <----- you should get a /dev/mtd folder, but read /proc/devices if it doesn't appear |
| 19:22.49 | phh | I'm not sure how android's device creation works |
| 19:23.22 | phh | Boydell: I'd like to know too. |
| 19:23.40 | ToAsTcfh | phh: so qdsp5 is prolly whats wrong for us? |
| 19:23.48 | phh | don't know |
| 19:23.52 | Boydell | phh: it annoys the shit out of me. things load i would/will never use |
| 19:23.54 | phh | that's what I can think of. |
| 19:24.06 | adamw | phh: /proc/devices shows 90 mtd |
| 19:24.07 | ToAsTcfh | ok |
| 19:24.16 | adamw | phh: and I did mknod /dev/mtd0 c 90 0 |
| 19:24.19 | phh | adamw: for char or block ? |
| 19:24.25 | adamw | char |
| 19:24.29 | phh | should work then |
| 19:24.32 | phh | anyway reading is safe |
| 19:24.34 | adamw | so is that okay, or should it have been /dev/mtd |
| 19:24.37 | adamw | yeah, it can't break anything |
| 19:24.45 | adamw | i just don't want to dump a gigantic file on you which isn't any use :P |
| 19:24.47 | phh | adamw: still, you might want mtd0ro |
| 19:24.52 | phh | find /sys -name mtd0ro |
| 19:24.56 | phh | and read the "dev" file in this folder |
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| 19:25.11 | adamw | 90:1 |
| 19:25.12 | phh | adamw: having the whole file might be useful for some things. |
| 19:25.15 | ToAsTcfh | qdsp5 is way different in .29 though when being compared to .27. alot of changes have been made |
| 19:25.24 | adamw | phh: i mean, if i'd done the dump wrong, it'd be useless |
| 19:25.30 | phh | ToAsTcfh: warn me when you got it working then :p |
| 19:25.34 | phh | adamw: oh yes right. |
| 19:26.14 | phh | done reading irc logs \o/ |
| 19:26.22 | phh | (you're killing me guys -_-') |
| 19:26.27 | adamw | i think i'm just gonna be dangerous and leave it running off mtd0 |
| 19:26.31 | chamonix | lol phh |
| 19:26.36 | adamw | it's a totally bare boot so 'surely' nothing will write to it |
| 19:26.40 | adamw | Nothing Can Possibly Go Wrong! |
| 19:27.18 | ToAsTcfh | ok so on to investigate qdsp5 :( |
| 19:27.37 | phh | that's funny. I can resolve names, I can ping hosts (like google.fr), I can do requests with telnet on it |
| 19:27.39 | adamw | it's up to 305MB now... |
| 19:27.41 | phh | but no browser works. |
| 19:27.43 | phh | (on my desktop) |
| 19:27.49 | phh | adamw: 512MB ROM ? |
| 19:28.12 | phh | (I need a raph or rhod :'() |
| 19:28.15 | adamw | phh: that's what the specs pages say. |
| 19:28.25 | adamw | phh: well we're working on that ;) reefermattness may pm you soon |
| 19:28.29 | phh | (I might even take a touch HD or topaz.) |
| 19:28.40 | phh | (just anything that's not gsm diam -_-') |
| 19:28.59 | phh | adamw: you got me a lower price ? :) |
| 19:29.18 | adamw | phh: we're gonna try and get a donation drive running. we need a dev to have a rhodium so you will fix it, and you need a better phone |
| 19:29.21 | adamw | it's a marriage made in heaven :P |
| 19:29.26 | ToAsTcfh | phh: do u own a native android device yet? |
| 19:29.30 | phh | ToAsTcfh: no |
| 19:29.35 | ToAsTcfh | lol |
| 19:29.44 | ToAsTcfh | u love the struggle |
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| 19:30.15 | Boydell | phh: that must be brutal with WinMo then! |
| 19:30.21 | phh | adamw: I can pay up to 130⬠for it (that's around the donations I already received basically :p) |
| 19:30.44 | phh | ToAsTcfh: do you know how to get WVGA android devices with keyboards and msm7k maybe ? |
| 19:30.59 | phh | I'm pretty sure there is no such thing. |
| 19:31.46 | ToAsTcfh | phh: wow so i grep for vfe_task just to make sure and found its not in .29 at all but it is in .27. wtf |
| 19:31.57 | phh | ToAsTcfh: mmmmmmmuh ? |
| 19:32.04 | ToAsTcfh | try it then |
| 19:32.10 | phh | yeah... another day :p |
| 19:32.12 | ToAsTcfh | im tellin u |
| 19:32.20 | phh | first I have to write the script for chamonix |
| 19:32.57 | ToAsTcfh | bah... |
| 19:33.22 | ToAsTcfh | anyhow i guess ill figure that out after work. for now i g2g |
| 19:33.28 | ToAsTcfh | good luck |
| 19:33.58 | adamw | phh: that should actually be enough to swing it, reefermattness is gonna poke you now :) |
| 19:34.21 | phh | yes I got it :p |
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| 19:39.37 | makkonen | should there be a gitorious repo for the rootfs? there's a bunch of little fixes that should go into the init script, but they never make their way out of my personal copy because it's I have no idea where to direct the fixes. I don't really know how it'd handle all the permissions and binary files, though. I assume git is made to handle that sort of stuff. |
| 19:39.50 | adamw | makkonen: stinebd started one I think |
| 19:39.54 | phh | makkonen: we would need a whole clean android tree. |
| 19:40.14 | adamw | makkonen: but you can send fixes to babijoee or leob and they should get into xdandroid... |
| 19:40.25 | makkonen | phh: we would? |
| 19:40.33 | phh | s/would// |
| 19:40.41 | adamw | phh: oh yay my dump stopped right on 512MB, so that seems right |
| 19:41.03 | phh | adamw: first 36MB are all 0xff ? |
| 19:41.17 | adamw | haven't got the sdcard out and looked yet |
| 19:41.45 | phh | ok |
| 19:42.26 | adamw | and my phone boots, so i didn't kill it. nice. |
| 19:42.34 | phh | lol |
| 19:42.41 | adamw | yes, a gigantic pile of <FF> at the start. |
| 19:42.52 | phh | it's the radio rom |
| 19:42.59 | phh | (it's not readable for """""""""security reasons""""""""") |
| 19:43.03 | adamw | so should I compress this and dump it somewhere? |
| 19:43.19 | phh | hum no |
| 19:43.38 | makkonen | adamw: yeah, I can send changes... but that usually means I download the latest rootfs, apply my fixes to it, make sure it works... then send a whole rootfs to one of them and hope they don't have to merge it with someone else's changes on their end. this is what git was MADE for. |
| 19:43.54 | phh | dd if=plouf of=plouf2 bs=1024 skip=36000 count=1k |
| 19:43.57 | adamw | makkonen: true. well, I usually just send the changed files (or a patch) within the rootfs. |
| 19:44.01 | phh | I guess this plouf2 should be enough |
| 19:44.09 | phh | (I'm no longer sure if it's 36000 or 36*1024 thouhg) |
| 19:44.09 | adamw | phh: ah, to cut out the radio rom. right. |
| 19:44.13 | makkonen | whatever... I'm jut complaining because... it's easier than making the fixes. |
| 19:44.19 | phh | adamw: and we need only the first MB |
| 19:44.22 | phh | the rest is just wince |
| 19:44.26 | adamw | gotcha |
| 19:44.42 | adamw | so, try it with 36000 first and see if there's still any FF there? |
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| 19:44.55 | phh | yes |
| 19:45.35 | adamw | still starts with FFs |
| 19:45.41 | adamw | so try with 36864? |
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| 19:45.53 | phh | yes |
| 19:46.07 | adamw | that looks like a bingo |
| 19:46.32 | adamw | starts with a page or so of ^@ and then 0.85.OliNex^@Rhodiu SPL EVT^@^@Shipped and data with some readable text in there |
| 19:46.37 | adamw | sound right? |
| 19:46.44 | phh | ah spl. |
| 19:47.19 | phh | adamw: count=4k |
| 19:47.21 | phh | not 1k |
| 19:47.23 | adamw | ok |
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| 19:49.41 | captnoord | radio rom.... interesting..... |
| 19:49.53 | captnoord | rare to share it with me? |
| 19:50.06 | captnoord | care* |
| 19:50.14 | adamw | phh: http://www.happyassassin.net/extras/plouf2.zip |
| 19:50.15 | phh | captnoord: it's not readable |
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| 19:50.22 | adamw | captnoord: sure. 0xFF |
| 19:50.24 | captnoord | not readable? |
| 19:50.27 | adamw | take that, multiply it by 36MB |
| 19:50.31 | adamw | there's your radio ROM |
| 19:50.31 | captnoord | totaly 0xFF |
| 19:50.45 | makkonen | did anyone (chamonix?) get any farther on dropbear? anyone know? |
| 19:51.32 | captnoord | its not totaly 0xFF |
| 19:51.42 | phh | captnoord: yes it is :p |
| 19:51.46 | phh | when you read it. |
| 19:51.49 | captnoord | 52748725 |
| 19:51.52 | phh | from A11 by default |
| 19:51.55 | mastermerlin | hi@all |
| 19:52.00 | adamw | phh: that look like the good stuff? |
| 19:52.15 | captnoord | 0xD9A00 |
| 19:52.22 | captnoord | offset |
| 19:52.33 | captnoord | and above that |
| 19:52.45 | phh | what about it ? |
| 19:52.50 | phh | captnoord: that's not radio dump |
| 19:52.51 | captnoord | bleh |
| 19:52.52 | captnoord | crap |
| 19:52.57 | captnoord | I understand |
| 19:53.42 | captnoord | Offset 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F |
| 19:53.42 | captnoord | 00380000 47 4F 4C 44 00 00 08 00 4E 4F 53 54 00 68 65 72 GOLD....NOST.her |
| 19:53.45 | captnoord | hmmm |
| 19:53.46 | adamw | captnoord: if you want anything out of the dump i can do it for you. |
| 19:53.58 | captnoord | nah... just interested |
| 19:54.18 | captnoord | I like to check if I can magicly get more out of it... |
| 19:54.19 | captnoord | but I can't |
| 19:54.32 | phh | adamw: I think I don't know how to calculate. |
| 19:54.36 | adamw | phh: heh |
| 19:54.46 | phh | ah no I forgot a translation |
| 19:55.15 | phh | adamw: if it's like raph/diam/cie do dd if=plouf2 of=calibration bs=1024 skip=1k count=1 |
| 19:55.17 | phh | and you should get it |
| 19:55.58 | adamw | wow, magic. yup. |
| 19:56.06 | adamw | let's see how that compares to the one I ripped out of gw620 |
| 19:56.25 | phh | right magic ? |
| 19:56.25 | phh | cool |
| 19:56.50 | adamw | ooh. it's pretty different. |
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| 19:56.54 | adamw | that's interesting. |
| 19:57.04 | phh | adamw: calibration isn't expected to be the same at all :p |
| 19:58.04 | adamw | phh: thanks |
| 19:58.11 | adamw | i'll try bcm4329 with this calibration |
| 19:58.18 | adamw | i fully expect it to fail anyway but it's something to do :P |
| 19:58.38 | adamw | when you get your rhodium you'll no doubt have everything working the next day anyway, right? ;) |
| 19:58.54 | phh | I think wifi should be pretty easy yes |
| 19:59.57 | adamw | working power management is the next big thing everyone wants i think |
| 20:00.00 | phh | chamonix: I'm taking care of your script I swear ! :p |
| 20:00.11 | phh | adamw: I'm pretty sure power management already works -_-' |
| 20:00.26 | adamw | phh: hum, well, to be fair i'm just going off what others have reported |
| 20:00.38 | adamw | haven't had time to run it unplugged without rebooting for a long time and see how it goes, yet |
| 20:00.51 | adamw | but for e.g. the screen backlight stays on even when the screen goes 'off' |
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| 20:01.08 | adamw | so that's obviously not optimal, heh |
| 20:01.22 | phh | adamw: shouldn't be a big problem |
| 20:01.39 | phh | on blackstone when the fix has been released, they got no huge improvement |
| 20:01.46 | adamw | oh k |
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| 20:02.07 | adamw | well, let's see...what kinda stuff should be in dmesg if power management is 'working'? |
| 20:02.18 | adamw | we could compare what it looks like on rhod to diamond/raph i guess |
| 20:02.46 | phh | give me yours, I know how to see that |
| 20:03.01 | adamw | okay, let me boot back into android |
| 20:03.07 | adamw | this shit will be so much easier now I can telnet, heh |
| 20:03.15 | phh | no adb ? |
| 20:03.25 | adamw | i haven't actually tried that at all |
| 20:12.42 | adamw | hmm, that's interesting - the usb only works if it's plugged in when android boots... |
| 20:13.09 | Boydell | yah thats known |
| 20:13.19 | Boydell | otherwise it doesnt iniltialize |
| 20:13.42 | makkonen | adamw: if you feel like fixing that, that'd be cool. |
| 20:13.43 | adamw | ah k. |
| 20:13.49 | adamw | makkonen: ah, you're a funny man :P |
| 20:14.03 | makkonen | thanks. I try. |
| 20:14.34 | adamw | once i've fixed everything else I'll fix that |
| 20:14.36 | adamw | how's that sound? |
| 20:14.54 | phh | :) |
| 20:15.20 | adamw | seriously, is it just something borked in the init process? or actual scary code-y stuff? |
| 20:15.40 | makkonen | for the usb? it's lower level than that. |
| 20:15.56 | phh | I did some little tries on it, no luck yet |
| 20:15.57 | makkonen | activesync needs to be running at boot to get the usb correctly initialized. |
| 20:16.01 | adamw | okay, nothing i'm gonna be fixing then. |
| 20:16.07 | makkonen | me neither. |
| 20:16.12 | phh | might be some dex calls |
| 20:16.22 | adamw | oh, so it's sort of abusing windows to do the initialization |
| 20:16.37 | adamw | like that phone where you have to be on a call in windows before booting android to get the mic to work, and stuff |
| 20:16.55 | Boydell | ha mine |
| 20:17.02 | adamw | heh, one of those funny ones that happens on the desktop too |
| 20:17.03 | Boydell | well the raph/diam |
| 20:17.06 | makkonen | phh: do you know what was done to get sound working on rhodium without having to make a call while booting? I'd like to do whatever they did for the mic on raph800. I assume it's not at all that easy. |
| 20:17.15 | adamw | some graphics cards work okay in Linux if you warm-boot after booting windows |
| 20:17.17 | adamw | but not from a cold boot |
| 20:17.18 | adamw | heh |
| 20:17.31 | phh | makkonen: mmutraced smem I guess |
| 20:17.39 | Boydell | adamw: really? wtf |
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| 20:17.43 | phh | adamw: my TV card does kind of the same. |
| 20:17.51 | phh | there is two antenna input |
| 20:17.56 | phh | "digital" and "analog" one |
| 20:18.03 | phh | if I boot in windows, they are in the correct order |
| 20:18.08 | phh | if i boot in linux, they are inverted :p |
| 20:18.27 | adamw | heh |
| 20:18.27 | phh | (if i boot in windows then warm reboot, it stays as in windows) |
| 20:18.41 | phh | it was driving me crazy before I understood that -_-' |
| 20:18.53 | adamw | yeah, os does quite a lot to initialize hardware these days |
| 20:18.58 | adamw | everything has firmware |
| 20:20.58 | captnoord | as long as my guitar doesn't have firmware i'm happy |
| 20:21.03 | chamonix | lol phh.... don't panic, I'm working in my emu fulltime anyway |
| 20:21.17 | phh | captnoord: eletrical one ? |
| 20:21.25 | chamonix | makkonen: dropbear runs fine with pub/privkey |
| 20:21.35 | captnoord | http://fatpenguinblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/01/IntelFender1.jpg |
| 20:21.38 | captnoord | hehe |
| 20:21.38 | Boydell | captnoord: I agree. |
| 20:21.47 | makkonen | chamonix: awesome. how do I get it? |
| 20:21.51 | adamw | phh: just getting you a few dmesg's now. |
| 20:22.20 | captnoord | its such a support atm because I don't have my laptop... and the pc i'm working on is way to slow.. |
| 20:22.37 | chamonix | makkonen: http://www.cri.ch/sven/doku.php/blog/running-dropbear-on-android |
| 20:22.50 | captnoord | Boydell: what kind of guitar ya have |
| 20:22.51 | captnoord | ? |
| 20:23.11 | adamw | really should have set telnet to listen only on usb0, thinking about it |
| 20:23.22 | makkonen | chamonix: thanks. looks keen. |
| 20:23.24 | Boydell | more bass |
| 20:23.28 | makkonen | adamw: that's how it's set by default. |
| 20:23.29 | chamonix | makkonen: I can provide u the binaries if u want to skip the building part |
| 20:23.32 | Boydell | bc rich and a yamaha |
| 20:23.33 | adamw | makkonen: oh. whew. |
| 20:23.39 | captnoord | 4 string? |
| 20:23.45 | Boydell | yah |
| 20:23.49 | captnoord | nice.... |
| 20:23.56 | Boydell | captnoord: used to have guitars |
| 20:23.59 | Boydell | got rid of them |
| 20:24.00 | captnoord | what do ya play? funk.... or more rock.. |
| 20:24.05 | captnoord | bass is nice |
| 20:24.11 | Boydell | more rock |
| 20:24.16 | Boydell | heavey rock |
| 20:24.17 | Boydell | lol |
| 20:24.18 | adamw | is very good at fake drums |
| 20:24.24 | Boydell | adamw: me too :P |
| 20:24.27 | captnoord | hehe... nice!!!... |
| 20:24.33 | adamw | Boydell: ahh, not the REAL fake drums though I bet |
| 20:24.33 | Boydell | and OK on real drums |
| 20:24.34 | makkonen | chamonix: it'll probably be good for me to build them myself. |
| 20:24.48 | adamw | Boydell: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DrumMania |
| 20:24.51 | captnoord | I simply can't drum.... |
| 20:24.58 | captnoord | not fake or real... |
| 20:24.59 | chamonix | I agree, learning by doing is always better ;) |
| 20:25.00 | captnoord | I suck |
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| 20:25.15 | adamw | captnoord: on the other hand, I sing *exactly* like a drummer |
| 20:25.15 | adamw | heh |
| 20:25.31 | captnoord | stacado.. |
| 20:25.37 | adamw | badly |
| 20:25.42 | captnoord | loooooool |
| 20:25.45 | adamw | :P |
| 20:25.52 | Boydell | adamw: i should set my rock band drums up like that |
| 20:25.56 | adamw | first rule of being in a band: never turn on the drummer's mic |
| 20:25.56 | captnoord | lemme see if I got some crap around |
| 20:26.02 | adamw | er, vocal mic, that is. |
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| 20:26.11 | chamonix | makkonen: if you have problems with pub/privkey just wave as I would like to extend the troubleshooting section.... ssh-keygen stuff tends to be tricky sometimes |
| 20:26.20 | adamw | Boydell: i've spent somewhere north of $4,000 on that game in the last few years |
| 20:26.27 | makkonen | will do |
| 20:26.28 | adamw | i could've bought two drum kits and a lot of lessons with that, heh |
| 20:26.30 | Boydell | :O |
| 20:26.37 | Boydell | adamw: what is WRONG with you |
| 20:26.43 | adamw | japanese arcade games, man |
| 20:26.48 | adamw | they have crack-like addiction down to a T |
| 20:27.01 | Boydell | ha |
| 20:27.08 | adamw | they measure like every single *iota* of your performance and analyse it sixteen different ways |
| 20:27.11 | Boydell | I loive in a small town, no arcade games here |
| 20:27.12 | adamw | there's always something to improve, heh |
| 20:27.33 | Boydell | adamw: its more ATV and field cars here :) |
| 20:27.36 | adamw | heh |
| 20:27.42 | adamw | vancouver's a very asian town |
| 20:27.45 | adamw | so we have awesome arcades |
| 20:27.51 | Boydell | adamw: building cars :) thats fun |
| 20:27.52 | Boydell | meh |
| 20:27.57 | Boydell | I think its a waste he |
| 20:27.59 | Boydell | *heh |
| 20:28.04 | adamw | doesn't drive |
| 20:28.12 | adamw | never learned, dunno how, scares the crap out of me |
| 20:28.17 | adamw | i can screw up enough stuff in front of a computer |
| 20:28.29 | adamw | letting me throw two tons of steel around at 70mph just seems like an award-winningly bad idea :P |
| 20:28.35 | Boydell | adamw: !!!!!!!! |
| 20:28.52 | phh | adamw: got some dmesg ? |
| 20:29.05 | adamw | phh: oh yeah i was just letting the phone sit for a while in case the messages when it goes idle are interesting |
| 20:29.06 | captnoord | lol |
| 20:29.13 | captnoord | use arcade games to improve your drumming |
| 20:29.14 | Boydell | adamw: gettin out on the lake with my snowmobile doing 100MPH, nothing like the feeling |
| 20:29.24 | captnoord | I wonder if I could use it to improve my singing |
| 20:29.25 | captnoord | http://deja.jails.nl/trashbin/no_way_to_know.ogg |
| 20:29.26 | captnoord | bleh |
| 20:29.27 | captnoord | :P |
| 20:29.55 | makkonen | snowmobile... 100mph.... <skin crawling> |
| 20:30.26 | Boydell | 150 horse power in a 400 pound machine. its fun. |
| 20:30.43 | adamw | you, sir, sound like a canadian |
| 20:30.44 | captnoord | but then the machine is doing all the work... |
| 20:30.46 | adamw | (and that's a high form of praise :>) |
| 20:30.52 | captnoord | adamw: and i'm kinda dutch |
| 20:31.01 | makkonen | yeah. I ride a motorcycle. Only 125hp and 500lb, but... also makes my skin crawl. |
| 20:31.15 | makkonen | s/Only/"Only" |
| 20:31.29 | Boydell | ah. i want a bike. no time/no money for it |
| 20:31.43 | adamw | phh: http://fpaste.org/SnNT/ |
| 20:31.46 | Boydell | rode dirt bikes all my life though. those are fun too. |
| 20:31.52 | captnoord | we always want stuff we don't have... or can't have |
| 20:32.04 | stinebd | like phh wish his rhodium |
| 20:32.10 | captnoord | yup |
| 20:32.11 | adamw | phh: i booted, let it sit for a minute so it hit the lock screen, unlocked, ran a terminal for no reason, telnetted in, turned the screen off with the button then on again, then let it sit for about five minutes. |
| 20:32.12 | stinebd | wish for* |
| 20:32.14 | phh | stinebd: I might get one :p |
| 20:32.17 | adamw | stinebd: he's getting one :P |
| 20:32.26 | Boydell | captnoord: its not that i CANT, im just being smart about cashflow right now :P |
| 20:32.32 | phh | [ 414.425781] active wake lock PowerManagerService |
| 20:32.32 | phh | [ 414.425872] active wake lock vbus_present |
| 20:32.38 | phh | adamw: you have to disconnect usb to get into suspend -_-' |
| 20:32.48 | adamw | phh: ah, i was gonna ask that then forgot :) |
| 20:32.51 | adamw | ok, will do that then |
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| 20:35.55 | phh | chamonix: http://husson.hd.free.fr/initramfs-updater.tgz |
| 20:36.08 | phh | the script takes the path to the modules.tar.gz |
| 20:36.16 | captnoord | if you ever think about wanting a broken leg |
| 20:36.17 | captnoord | http://deja.jails.nl/Data/Shared/Pictures/x-rays-2009/leg-under-right/been004_small_safe.jpg |
| 20:36.33 | captnoord | big badaboom |
| 20:36.34 | captnoord | :P |
| 20:36.37 | phh | adamw: anyway, you have an app that prevent the system from sleeping, see the "[ 414.425781] active wake lock PowerManagerService" |
| 20:36.57 | adamw | i'll kill everything, then |
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| 20:38.16 | phh | adamw: do you have some "media" on your sdcard ? |
| 20:38.30 | phh | there is a background android process that scans it, and it might be painfull for that |
| 20:38.45 | phh | adamw: what do you get know with wifi btw ? |
| 20:38.54 | adamw | phh: haven't tried it with the new calibration yet |
| 20:39.00 | phh | ok |
| 20:39.06 | adamw | that's interesting - it's suddenly decided my battery is under 5% |
| 20:39.34 | adamw | ok, i just killed the hell out of everything with atk |
| 20:39.52 | phh | yes we have really need a real battery driver |
| 20:40.02 | adamw | no, no media folder |
| 20:40.16 | adamw | heh, battery information claims it's at 201 mV |
| 20:40.21 | adamw | somehow I doubt that :P |
| 20:40.34 | phh | why ? :p |
| 20:41.23 | captnoord | http://www.limn2o4.com/battery/charger2.jpg |
| 20:41.33 | captnoord | mental note for battery voltage... |
| 20:41.41 | captnoord | voltage != power |
| 20:41.41 | stinebd | woo |
| 20:41.51 | phh | captnoord: basic physics :p |
| 20:41.55 | captnoord | yup |
| 20:42.03 | captnoord | u * i = w |
| 20:42.06 | captnoord | which is power |
| 20:42.21 | phh | LiMn_2O_4 ? I didn't know that |
| 20:42.31 | dcordes | captnoord, nice broken leg. |
| 20:42.37 | phh | I think they can't really make better (chemistry speaking) batteries than that -_-' |
| 20:42.40 | phh | well they could use fluor. |
| 20:42.50 | chamonix | ty phh.... just for my understanding as I have two initrd.gz right now and I don't really know the difference.... the initrd.gz produced will provide me with the mountpoint / in the nand as I have it right now, correct? |
| 20:42.51 | captnoord | dcordes: and its still bothering me... and it still a pain in tha ass |
| 20:43.03 | adamw | captnoord: yeah, I know, but phones always just monitor the voltage, because that's what drops over time in a battery. |
| 20:43.13 | phh | chamonix: yes, and it loads the modules from the modules-xxxxx.tar.gz so you can use GlemSom's kerneml |
| 20:43.18 | captnoord | adamw: please don't make me start.... |
| 20:43.29 | dcordes | gnutoo_, sorry was afk. medical engineering |
| 20:44.00 | phh | adamw: I think at least wimo do it clever |
| 20:44.02 | adamw | captnoord: roger :) |
| 20:44.06 | phh | (integral of u*i*dt) |
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| 20:44.42 | captnoord | phh u isn't needed |
| 20:44.48 | chamonix | that IS cool! ty phh....... |
| 20:44.50 | GNUtoo | dcordes, ok |
| 20:44.51 | captnoord | but for the people who doesn't have a clue... |
| 20:44.54 | phh | captnoord: r*i*i ? |
| 20:44.57 | captnoord | its the best way to explain |
| 20:44.57 | captnoord | nah |
| 20:45.00 | captnoord | i * dt |
| 20:45.11 | GNUtoo | dcordes, what is it exactly? like bio-engineering ? |
| 20:45.14 | phh | oh right. chemistry again. |
| 20:45.21 | captnoord | is how you calculate the amount of consumed current |
| 20:45.30 | captnoord | if you differenciate that |
| 20:45.45 | dcordes | GNUtoo, no more like technical. electrical engineering, physics.. only few bio lectures |
| 20:45.50 | captnoord | you get the total amount of used power |
| 20:45.56 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 20:46.10 | captnoord | in the end you get a graph similar to the picture.... |
| 20:46.16 | GNUtoo | dcordes, so what's medical in it? |
| 20:46.30 | stinebd | you guys should give up on this battery stuff and just make fuel cells for these phones |
| 20:46.39 | dcordes | GNUtoo, the name ;) |
| 20:46.41 | captnoord | which suck even more.... |
| 20:46.44 | phh | stinebd: <3 |
| 20:46.46 | captnoord | they have compared to there size |
| 20:46.50 | captnoord | a to low voltage |
| 20:46.58 | captnoord | they can produce more power |
| 20:47.05 | captnoord | but they generate lower voltage |
| 20:47.05 | phh | stinebd: I have a 60Wh battery for my laptop in my backpack anyway :p |
| 20:47.26 | stinebd | lol 60Wh |
| 20:47.51 | phh | oh that makes me thing I have to get ie recharged |
| 20:47.55 | captnoord | 24v 60wh |
| 20:47.57 | phh | bah it's too far. |
| 20:48.10 | adamw | haha, now it's decided the battery's full again. |
| 20:48.17 | adamw | fastest charge ever! and without a charger plugged in! |
| 20:48.21 | phh | adamw: :)) |
| 20:48.33 | adamw | captnoord: go ahead and explain THAT with your so-called science! ;) |
| 20:48.42 | ReeferMattness | wireless charging adam |
| 20:48.49 | captnoord | adamw because the system is crap |
| 20:48.51 | stinebd | oh, well actually mine is 58Wh as of last full |
| 20:48.54 | captnoord | uses the wrong fieldz |
| 20:49.02 | captnoord | I know its using the temp field |
| 20:49.04 | adamw | i was joking, but never mind :) |
| 20:49.06 | captnoord | instead of the correct one |
| 20:49.07 | captnoord | :P |
| 20:49.11 | captnoord | lolz |
| 20:49.15 | phh | captnoord: temp field ? |
| 20:49.16 | phh | huhu |
| 20:49.38 | captnoord | hmm.. you know MAF filters? |
| 20:49.40 | phh | captnoord: btw have you documented anything ? |
| 20:49.43 | captnoord | moving avarage |
| 20:49.52 | captnoord | phh no facts yet |
| 20:50.06 | captnoord | they use 2 fields... 1 stores the old value |
| 20:50.15 | captnoord | of the messurement before the current one |
| 20:50.21 | phh | captnoord: chamonix already implemented that -_-' |
| 20:50.29 | captnoord | then something is wrong |
| 20:50.36 | phh | implemented but not commited |
| 20:50.40 | captnoord | lolz |
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| 20:50.41 | captnoord | I see |
| 20:50.44 | phh | I was too lazy to check if it's correct or not |
| 20:50.45 | captnoord | then i'm happy |
| 20:50.50 | captnoord | gimme |
| 20:50.51 | captnoord | :P |
| 20:50.56 | captnoord | I can't compile it |
| 20:50.58 | captnoord | but I can check it out |
| 20:51.15 | captnoord | dcordes: have you asked that guy for me? |
| 20:51.23 | GNUtoo | dcordes, ok |
| 20:51.29 | adamw | phh: http://fpaste.org/1ew6/ |
| 20:51.33 | adamw | phh: i dunno why it's not complete, but anyway |
| 20:51.39 | phh | captnoord: http://pjottrr.no-ip.org:81/redmine/issues/show/9 |
| 20:51.41 | adamw | phh: seems like it keeps sleeping and waking up again? |
| 20:52.03 | phh | adamw: ouch yes |
| 20:52.22 | phh | what's the debuging flag again mmm |
| 20:52.27 | dcordes | captnoord, yes see query |
| 20:52.31 | adamw | phh: i guess that would explain the terrible battery life people see then |
| 20:52.36 | phh | yes. |
| 20:52.43 | adamw | wake/sleep/wake/sleep/wake/sleep every second is worse than just staying awake i expect heh |
| 20:52.54 | phh | adamw: oh every second should be fine. |
| 20:53.06 | adamw | oh yeah it's less than that even... |
| 20:53.08 | phh | :p |
| 20:53.49 | adamw | hehe |
| 20:54.16 | phh | adamw: echo 16 > /sys/module/pm/parameters/debug_mask |
| 20:54.21 | adamw | that's with everything showing in atk shut off, btw |
| 20:54.31 | adamw | so no non-default process should be waking it up |
| 20:54.45 | phh | when sleeping you'll get a flood of messages, the important one is SMEM_SMSM_INT_INFO |
| 20:54.48 | adamw | k |
| 20:54.55 | phh | trying to sleep I mean :p |
| 20:55.05 | captnoord | dev = abs((l1-l2)*100/l1); |
| 20:55.08 | captnoord | hmmm |
| 20:55.12 | captnoord | wierd stuff dude |
| 20:55.13 | captnoord | :S |
| 20:55.14 | chamonix | lol php.... for usre it's not correct, it's just a low pass filter fixing the jumping reading when temp varies too fast |
| 20:55.24 | chamonix | s/usre/sure |
| 20:55.33 | phh | chamonix: want to be killed hum ? |
| 20:55.54 | chamonix | errrrr |
| 20:55.59 | chamonix | no, not today :P |
| 20:55.59 | phh | (s/php/phh/.) |
| 20:56.09 | captnoord | chamonix: wouldn't that be |
| 20:56.10 | phh | captnoord: why ? |
| 20:56.12 | chamonix | rofl |
| 20:56.13 | chamonix | sry |
| 20:56.14 | adamw | should really add a sekrit keyboard map for > |
| 20:56.16 | phh | captnoord: that's called relative error -_-' |
| 20:56.17 | captnoord | (i1 + i2) / 2 |
| 20:56.21 | captnoord | I know |
| 20:56.25 | chamonix | déformation professionelle, désolé |
| 20:56.41 | phh | chamonix: wrong charset is that too ? |
| 20:56.51 | chamonix | nah, I have ISO8859-15 |
| 20:56.57 | phh | chamonix: no it's not :p |
| 20:57.00 | chamonix | sure |
| 20:57.09 | avengerpenguin_ | anyone got any advice when getting this error when trying to compile kernel "__LINUX_ARM_ARCH__" is not defined" |
| 20:57.11 | chamonix | or did I forget to set my screen..... |
| 20:57.13 | chamonix | maybe |
| 20:57.14 | phh | it looks like UTF8 casted as ISO-8859-15 coded to UTF8 |
| 20:57.30 | chamonix | then it's screen not being set right my irssi is |
| 20:57.43 | phh | captnoord: it might be called logarithmic differential or something like that too |
| 20:57.43 | captnoord | as now you are using the diff between 1 and 2 and use that to do magic calculations regarding i1 |
| 20:57.52 | captnoord | hehe |
| 20:57.57 | chamonix | phh: it's like SMS in android ;) |
| 20:58.03 | captnoord | nah its better than nothing |
| 20:58.08 | captnoord | I like |
| 20:58.12 | phh | chamonix: nah it's better I can still understand that :p |
| 20:58.17 | chamonix | HeHeHe |
| 20:58.49 | chamonix | well I've almost finished prefs for effects |
| 20:59.26 | phh | chamonix: you added sleep_effects ? |
| 21:00.23 | chamonix | not yet, I haven't tried how it works yet.... do I just have to write there like in effects for it to be applied when sleeping? |
| 21:00.40 | phh | adamw: if you don't get extra messages, you might have to reboot with pm.debug_mask=16 |
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| 21:00.48 | phh | chamonix: yup |
| 21:01.03 | chamonix | cool, I want it rotate when it sleeps :-D |
| 21:01.14 | adamw | phh: as a kernel param? |
| 21:01.19 | phh | adamw: yes |
| 21:01.21 | adamw | gotcha |
| 21:01.25 | chamonix | ok, let's add that straight away |
| 21:01.25 | adamw | i'm trying it with the echo now |
| 21:01.29 | phh | chamonix: and does it handle mail ? |
| 21:01.29 | adamw | if it doesn't work i'll do the param |
| 21:02.38 | chamonix | phh: I still have a problem with mail/im/sms because I can't figure a way to end the effect...... theoretically it's just one setting more but I first want to add timer+repeat for SMS, then I'll add mail+im |
| 21:02.52 | chamonix | and then I guess I have a RC |
| 21:02.53 | phh | pfff |
| 21:03.29 | chamonix | phh: by tomorrow u'll have it with all notifications android provides |
| 21:03.36 | chamonix | and the BRICK perm :-D |
| 21:03.42 | phh | lol |
| 21:03.45 | stinebd | ooh |
| 21:04.16 | chamonix | I'd like to know what the guy who invented that feature smoked that day |
| 21:04.38 | phh | captnoord: I don't understand why you get looping micropklt_lcd_ctrl errors |
| 21:04.43 | phh | it shouldn't be called at all on raph |
| 21:04.49 | adamw | phh: nope, no flood with the echo, I'll try with the param |
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| 21:05.12 | captnoord | phh I don't understand |
| 21:05.26 | captnoord | it shouldn't idd |
| 21:05.26 | phh | captnoord: didn't you say you had problems to boot because of micropklt_lcd_ctrl errors ? |
| 21:05.29 | captnoord | but it does |
| 21:05.35 | captnoord | yup |
| 21:05.36 | phh | ah ok |
| 21:05.38 | captnoord | that message |
| 21:05.47 | captnoord | I mean that I don't understand how its possible |
| 21:05.51 | captnoord | if I do a search |
| 21:06.01 | phh | captnoord: well, android userland do one write to it |
| 21:06.01 | captnoord | the function is used in several other things |
| 21:06.03 | phh | but only one. |
| 21:06.13 | captnoord | not in my world as it seems |
| 21:06.13 | captnoord | :S |
| 21:07.36 | phh | captnoord: maybe try commenting this line in rootfs /init |
| 21:07.54 | captnoord | phh I don't have a clue but would it be possible that that single user land fucks everything up |
| 21:07.55 | captnoord | k |
| 21:07.58 | captnoord | gimme |
| 21:08.16 | phh | don't know |
| 21:08.34 | phh | chamonix: don't foget to make the sleep_leds stuff only optional :p |
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| 21:09.49 | phh | hi Markinus |
| 21:10.04 | Markinus | Hi phh! |
| 21:10.18 | adamw | phh: okay, booted again, waiting for it to sleep |
| 21:10.36 | adamw | Markinus: heya. phh helped me dump the calibration from my rhodium, it's different from either of the others we tried. having tried loading it yet though... |
| 21:10.46 | captnoord | phh what line? |
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| 21:11.00 | phh | captnoord: echo 3 > /sys/class/htc_hw/test |
| 21:11.02 | Markinus | adamw: ahh, cool! |
| 21:12.14 | adamw | Markinus: http://www.happyassassin.net/extras/rhodium-calibration , if you're interested |
| 21:12.34 | phh | adamw: I think cr2_ might be interested too :p |
| 21:12.44 | Markinus | phh: do you have some GPS stuff? |
| 21:12.49 | phh | -_-' |
| 21:12.57 | stinebd | hey look at that |
| 21:12.59 | stinebd | slide to answer works now |
| 21:13.02 | phh | oh right for this one I told you I would help you doing that |
| 21:13.03 | phh | stinebd: oO |
| 21:13.12 | phh | stinebd: strange |
| 21:13.19 | Markinus | adamw: ahh like this what I send you from the Samsung phone |
| 21:13.23 | stinebd | ts calibration maybe? |
| 21:13.37 | phh | Markinus: find / -name libgps.so |
| 21:13.44 | phh | stinebd: mmm might be |
| 21:13.50 | phh | Markinus: and do a strings on the libgps.so |
| 21:13.55 | Markinus | phh: Ahh okay! :-) |
| 21:13.57 | phh | see if it uses /dev/vogue_gps or libcrpc |
| 21:13.58 | adamw | phh: mmmff...even with the kernel param, there's no flood in dmesg after waiting for the phone to sleep |
| 21:13.59 | phh | oncrpc* |
| 21:14.05 | stinebd | i haven't tried it in a loooong time so i don't know when it started to work |
| 21:14.08 | phh | adamw: no new messages at all ? |
| 21:14.14 | stinebd | i'll still just use the navipad buttons anyway |
| 21:14.27 | adamw | phh: doesn't look like it at a quick glace, but i'll take a copy |
| 21:15.49 | phh | 2^5=16 ? |
| 21:15.54 | adamw | Markinus: it's different from the one you sent me, though, look at 'em side by side |
| 21:16.01 | Markinus | ok |
| 21:16.06 | captnoord | phh yes |
| 21:16.34 | captnoord | its 32 |
| 21:16.46 | captnoord | 2^0 |
| 21:16.48 | adamw | phh: http://fpaste.org/KEEC/ |
| 21:17.01 | adamw | phh: you can see the pm.debug_mask=16 in the cmdline at the start... |
| 21:17.24 | captnoord | 2^5 = 32 |
| 21:17.29 | adamw | phh: i do see stuff like '[ 259.030273] Suspending console(s) (use no_console_suspend to debug)' , do I need that too? |
| 21:17.46 | phh | adamw: not if you're using dmesg |
| 21:17.49 | adamw | k |
| 21:17.51 | captnoord | doing that in hex is easier |
| 21:17.54 | adamw | yeah this is just dmesg > somefile |
| 21:17.57 | captnoord | 0x10 |
| 21:18.10 | captnoord | 0x20 |
| 21:18.12 | captnoord | woeps |
| 21:18.15 | captnoord | make the same mistace |
| 21:18.16 | captnoord | lolz |
| 21:18.28 | phh | yup its 32 not 16 -_-' |
| 21:18.31 | adamw | oh ok :) |
| 21:18.32 | captnoord | yup |
| 21:18.35 | adamw | new boot coming then :) |
| 21:18.38 | phh | o |
| 21:18.39 | phh | no |
| 21:18.45 | phh | try with the echo 32 > blabla |
| 21:18.48 | adamw | k |
| 21:18.49 | phh | I'd like to know if this actually works. |
| 21:21.52 | captnoord | phh works |
| 21:22.00 | phh | captnoord: weird. |
| 21:22.17 | captnoord | I hexedited the rootfs lolz |
| 21:22.23 | captnoord | yup wierds |
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| 21:23.41 | adamw | phh: okay, waiting for it to sleep. |
| 21:25.55 | phh | adamw: still not ? |
| 21:25.56 | adamw | phh: ohhh yeah there we go. that works. |
| 21:25.59 | phh | . |
| 21:26.30 | phh | Markinus: which wifi driver do you use in your donut release btw ? |
| 21:26.37 | phh | wl1251 or tiwlan ? |
| 21:27.06 | Markinus | phh: We have a problem with Topaz. If the one is sleeping, the call isn'T work. The device isn't waking up. There is no message about missing call or so. Only nothing. This is only working, when the USB cable is pluged in after start from winmo. Did you have a Idea?? |
| 21:27.12 | Markinus | wl1251 |
| 21:27.18 | adamw | phh: http://fpaste.org/I6OE/ |
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| 21:27.23 | phh | ok, I'll make a donut with tiwlan I think |
| 21:27.58 | phh | Markinus: the usb cable has to be still putted in for it to work I guess ? |
| 21:28.31 | captnoord | phh works.... I haven't got a clue how something like that can turn into a loop |
| 21:28.32 | captnoord | :S |
| 21:28.40 | Markinus | Yesm but if you pull it out and then again in, this isn'T work |
| 21:28.43 | phh | "[ 373.402587] SMEM_SMSM_INT_INFO 0 0 4" means "oh god I got awaken by a gpio so you have to debug gpio guy" |
| 21:28.59 | phh | captnoord: I can't see why either. |
| 21:29.08 | adamw | oh yay. back to haretconsole and watch GPIOs? or is this some exciting other form of GPIO debugging? |
| 21:29.12 | phh | no |
| 21:29.20 | phh | echo 1 > /sys/module/gpio/parameters/debug_mask |
| 21:29.26 | adamw | alllrighty |
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| 21:29.50 | adamw | if i boot with usb connected, then can I connect usb to telnet in and disconnect it to test sleeping? will that be okay? |
| 21:29.57 | adamw | because that would be so much easier than rebooting all the fracking time |
| 21:30.00 | phh | sure |
| 21:30.03 | Markinus | phh: only after winmo start, maybe when the USB network connection is working |
| 21:30.03 | adamw | k |
| 21:30.15 | phh | Markinus: just vbus detection actually. |
| 21:30.22 | phh | there is a wakelock on vbus detection |
| 21:30.54 | noisyzen | Markinus: I'm kinda here (working on somse other stuff) but are you saying that if you leave the phone plugged in on USB that it will not miss the calls? |
| 21:30.58 | noisyzen | (so i can test this later) |
| 21:31.10 | Markinus | noisyzen: yes |
| 21:31.12 | noisyzen | i'm digging around in my own little eval world right now, but wanted to clarify. |
| 21:31.41 | noisyzen | Markinus: okay, assuming i am not working late tonight, i will totally test and be available for testing |
| 21:31.52 | Markinus | phh: you mean the VBUS detection is blocking the wakup? |
| 21:32.03 | phh | Markinus: no, the sleep. |
| 21:32.14 | phh | the device won't sleep if vbus is present |
| 21:32.26 | Markinus | phh: ahhhhh, |
| 21:33.03 | Markinus | ok, the the problem is that it isn't waking up if the phone is deep sleeping .. |
| 21:33.03 | adamw | phh: alright, waiting for sleep. |
| 21:33.16 | phh | adamw: me too :p |
| 21:33.22 | phh | Markinus: try with pm.sleep_mode=2 |
| 21:33.34 | Markinus | phh: ok |
| 21:34.01 | adamw | phh: hehe =) |
| 21:34.12 | stinebd | uh oh |
| 21:34.14 | stinebd | time to add more udelays |
| 21:34.49 | phh | stinebd: maybe, maybe not. |
| 21:36.19 | adamw | phh: here's a few loops of what I get with gpio debugging |
| 21:36.20 | adamw | http://fpaste.org/hdhi/ |
| 21:36.41 | phh | adamw: also, do cat /proc/interrupts ; sleep 10;cat /proc/interrupts |
| 21:36.50 | phh | and if there is any device taking a lot of interrupts |
| 21:37.23 | phh | adamw: pfff I hate those gpio stuff |
| 21:37.39 | adamw | phh: interrupts: http://fpaste.org/VvwZ/ |
| 21:37.53 | adamw | looks like...gp_timer and vsync |
| 21:38.20 | phh | none of them awakes the system from sleep |
| 21:38.30 | phh | the problem is in an unhandled interrupt... yay. |
| 21:39.18 | adamw | phh: what else can I do? |
| 21:39.32 | phh | wait a second. |
| 21:39.36 | adamw | gotcha :) |
| 21:39.42 | adamw | we can totally do this tomorrow if it's late for you and you're sick of it |
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| 21:39.46 | adamw | i have work i'm supposed to be doing anyway |
| 21:40.02 | adamw | has been sitting in front of the computer 14 hours a day lately, poking android for 12 and working for 2 :P |
| 21:40.13 | phh | lol |
| 21:40.43 | phh | ok just one other. |
| 21:41.06 | phh | echo 63 > /sys/module/pm/parameters/debug_mask |
| 21:41.58 | captnoord | 0b11111 |
| 21:42.08 | phh | captnoord: I know :p |
| 21:42.11 | adamw | phh: then let it sleep again? |
| 21:42.14 | captnoord | hehe I know |
| 21:42.15 | phh | adamw: yes |
| 21:42.17 | captnoord | :P |
| 21:42.17 | adamw | kk |
| 21:43.37 | phh | groumpf I really hate this pm debugging |
| 21:44.52 | adamw | holy shit, that's verbose |
| 21:44.57 | phh | kind of. |
| 21:46.39 | adamw | gonna have to reboot to get this one off... |
| 21:47.30 | phh | echo 0 > /sys/module/pm/parameters/debug_mask |
| 21:47.32 | phh | to remove it. |
| 21:47.37 | adamw | phh: http://fpaste.org/8wbz/ |
| 21:47.55 | phh | argh |
| 21:47.57 | adamw | yeah i mean - i had to copy it to the sd card, and when i eject the sd card i always reboot (dunno if that's necessary but it feels like it should be) |
| 21:47.57 | phh | fucking swfi |
| 21:48.21 | adamw | before i was just pasting from scrollback, but that thing was huge... |
| 21:48.53 | adamw | seriously, though, you sound stressed, just take a break man :) it'll wait |
| 21:48.57 | phh | adamw: echo 55 > /sys/module/pm/parameters/debug_mask |
| 21:49.05 | adamw | kk |
| 21:49.18 | phh | don't worry :p |
| 21:49.38 | adamw | i think it's like matt said...now you're getting a rhodium you want to fix it, hehe :P |
| 21:52.14 | adamw | oh wow, android even saves command history across reboots. that's nice and civilized. |
| 21:53.56 | phh | adamw: I'm even trying to get backlight on/off working :p |
| 21:53.59 | phh | but it seems weird |
| 21:54.04 | adamw | huh. that's interesting. now i'm holding it - it keeps vibrating |
| 21:54.09 | adamw | while it's in 'sleep' |
| 21:54.17 | adamw | like whatever event is going on is triggering a vibrate |
| 21:54.41 | phh | oh yes |
| 21:54.45 | phh | that's the second bit of pm.sleep_mask |
| 21:54.48 | phh | don't take care of that |
| 21:54.50 | adamw | oh k |
| 21:56.01 | adamw | phh: http://fpaste.org/3ZTw/ |
| 21:56.06 | adamw | that's with 55 and gpio at 1 |
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| 21:58.01 | phh | adamw: hum ok, too hard to read it today. |
| 21:58.08 | adamw | phh: np np, like i said, go to bed :) |
| 21:58.22 | phh | I finish translating the logs mastermelin gave me first |
| 21:58.45 | adamw | phh: I will upload that log somewhere permanent for you because fpaste expires after an hour |
| 21:58.50 | adamw | phh: or should I just email it? |
| 21:59.03 | phh | as you want |
| 21:59.06 | phh | my mail is phhusson@free.fr |
| 21:59.32 | adamw | ok |
| 21:59.44 | phh | I read logs anyway |
| 21:59.51 | phh | so you can paste an url here |
| 22:00.45 | adamw | i'll email it |
| 22:01.34 | phh | yay. we've got a microp 0x84 command |
| 22:01.41 | adamw | phh: sent |
| 22:01.43 | phh | and cr2 said there was no command > 80 :p |
| 22:02.24 | phh | INT_CTL stuff, I'd bet keyboard position is handled through that. |
| 22:03.58 | ReeferMattness | oh god i hope so phh, that drives me CRAZY ;) |
| 22:04.39 | phh | so we have an unknown I2C device |
| 22:04.41 | phh | coool |
| 22:05.26 | Markinus | phh: maybe sound ??? ha! ;-) |
| 22:05.36 | phh | Markinus: no for rhod's backlight |
| 22:05.54 | adamw | phh: oh, the other thing that i guess needs figuring out for rhodium is the keyboard open / close |
| 22:05.59 | adamw | i don't think anyone's figured how that works yet |
| 22:06.09 | phh | they use both 0xcc>>1 (microp) and 0x70>>1 (unknown) devices for that |
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| 22:06.17 | adamw | (though when I was monitoring gpios in haretconsole yesterday it seemed to trigger an event like a keyboard press) |
| 22:06.23 | phh | adamw: that's what I was talking about with the "keyboard position" :p |
| 22:06.26 | adamw | ahh :) |
| 22:06.49 | adamw | it'd be cool if you could fix that for sure |
| 22:07.03 | adamw | btw, is it just an android bug that lots of apps seem to have trouble switching landscape -> portrait? |
| 22:07.11 | adamw | pulling the stylus out always switches portrait -> landscape |
| 22:07.24 | adamw | but putting it back in doesn't seem to switch back, unless you go to the home screen - then it does |
| 22:07.32 | ReeferMattness | yup, I can second that bug |
| 22:07.37 | adamw | (and when you go back to an app, it'll be portrait) |
| 22:07.51 | phh | chamonix: oh ! if you know how to unlock screen, please do something for the stylus out detection :p |
| 22:08.18 | phh | I already searched but no luck |
| 22:08.28 | adamw | anyway thanks for your efforts phh |
| 22:08.39 | adamw | anything you need me to provide just ask, sorry i can't do more of the actual work myself :( |
| 22:08.44 | adamw | hope your rhodium gets there soon |
| 22:09.10 | adamw | i'll try the wifi with the new nvram.txt but i don't honestly think it'll help, i think we decided it was failing before it even tries to load firmware / calibration didn't we? |
| 22:09.37 | phh | adamw: I did, but maybe I didn't looked at code right |
| 22:09.48 | adamw | kk, i'll give it a try anyhow, can't hurt |
| 22:10.10 | adamw | oh, i tried building it with the slightly updated nexus one code we talked about the other day |
| 22:10.19 | adamw | (which seems to try and make the error checking a bit more granular) |
| 22:10.23 | adamw | gets the exact same error |
| 22:10.43 | Markinus | phh: maybe we need a vreg for the bcm chip. There is nothing about this in the wiki . .. |
| 22:10.55 | phh | Markinus: cr2 said that none is needed |
| 22:11.03 | Markinus | phh: ahh, ok |
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| 22:11.21 | adamw | Markinus: the nand dump is at http://www.happyassassin.net/extras/plouf2.zip if it's of any use to you |
| 22:11.35 | adamw | that's what phh got the nvram.txt out from |
| 22:12.17 | phh | Markinus: seems to be at the same address as for raphael, see raphaelnand page on wiki |
| 22:14.32 | Markinus | phh: ahh, there a did not looked in yesterday . . |
| 22:14.59 | phh | Markinus: setlcd 4 in haret is for lcd on and setlcd 1 for lcd off right ? |
| 22:15.06 | Markinus | 4 is off |
| 22:15.43 | phh | ok. |
| 22:15.43 | phh | so it's rrrrrreeeeeeaaaaaallllllllyyyyy weird. |
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| 22:15.44 | Markinus | and 1 or 0 is on |
| 22:15.47 | phh | or it's damn logical ?!? |
| 22:16.21 | adamw | logic is overrated |
| 22:16.24 | phh | :p |
| 22:16.24 | Markinus | :) |
| 22:16.45 | chamonix | phh: I've read lots on screen stuff but noting on buttons/stylus... I don't think that's detectable from android..... is stylus exposed like a dpad key or a keyboard key? |
| 22:16.49 | phh | adamw: you know how to trace gpios/memory with haret ? |
| 22:17.06 | phh | chamonix: not exposed yet, since I don't know how to properly expose it |
| 22:17.18 | phh | chamonix: just take care of the "unlock" part :p |
| 22:17.28 | adamw | phh: i got the idiot's guide - WATCH GPIOs 5, poke some stuff, look at what you get |
| 22:17.51 | adamw | oh, shit, just remembered I have to flash this diamond and pack it up and send it off to the guy who bought it... |
| 22:18.00 | Boydell | lmfao |
| 22:18.12 | phh | adamw: addlist mmutrace 0xb2300000 0x20 |
| 22:18.19 | phh | trace that when opening/closing keyboard |
| 22:18.22 | phh | time to sleep. |
| 22:18.31 | adamw | phh: alright i'll give that a shot |
| 22:18.33 | adamw | night |
| 22:18.38 | Markinus | phh: gnight! |
| 22:18.45 | chamonix | nite phh |
| 22:21.32 | Boydell | bah |
| 22:21.41 | Boydell | my batt life is TERRIBLE |
| 22:24.06 | adamw | chamonix: android definitely detects the stylus somehow |
| 22:24.17 | adamw | chamonix: because on rhodium, ejecting / replacing stylus triggers landscape / portrait switch |
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| 22:25.09 | Boydell | adamw: check getevent? |
| 22:25.13 | Markinus | adamw: this is a GPIO |
| 22:25.27 | adamw | phh: sent that mmutrace by email. |
| 22:27.35 | makkonen | what's the short version of what to do to boot off an ext2 partition? |
| 22:28.01 | Boydell | there is no short version? |
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| 22:29.56 | Boydell | create partions, mount ext2 partion, copy /system/* to ext2 partition, mv system.sqsh to /sdcard/backupsystem/installedsystem/sqsh, chmod 777 dbus.conf |
| 22:30.09 | Boydell | i forget where dbus.conf is though one sec |
| 22:30.11 | stinebd | looks pretty short to me |
| 22:30.26 | Boydell | well it takes a few minutes |
| 22:30.37 | Markinus | adamw: did you watch GPIOS/IRQS with haret on slide in/out? |
| 22:30.40 | Boydell | and its a pain to do when a new system.sqsh comes out |
| 22:31.39 | stinebd | this ext2 partition is on the sd card? |
| 22:31.47 | adamw | Markinus: phh asked me for mmutrace, i emailed it to him |
| 22:31.48 | Boydell | chmod 777 /mnt/etc/dbus.conf |
| 22:31.49 | Boydell | yah |
| 22:31.51 | makkonen | copy over some of the stuff from the vogue rootfs that autocopies. |
| 22:31.56 | adamw | Markinus: watching gpios it seemed to give a keyboard-style gpio event |
| 22:32.01 | adamw | Markinus: i can send you the mmutrace if you like |
| 22:32.30 | adamw | Markinus: http://fpaste.org/COCC/ |
| 22:32.40 | adamw | the first set of mmutrace events showed up on opening keyboard, second set on closing |
| 22:32.42 | Markinus | adamw: ahh, okay . . . interesting . . take alook |
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| 22:33.29 | Boydell | anyone seen that massive storm in the states right now? |
| 22:33.30 | adamw | Markinus: quote from phh earlier - <phh> they use both 0xcc>>1 (microp) and 0x70>>1 (unknown) devices for that |
| 22:34.28 | Boydell | http://www.accuweather.com/ |
| 22:34.34 | Markinus | wasn't this for not for backlight? |
| 22:34.36 | Boydell | scroll down and look at the radar |
| 22:34.41 | Markinus | This is keaxboard or ont?! |
| 22:34.44 | adamw | Markinus: i think we were onto keyboard by then |
| 22:34.58 | stinebd | Boydell: that thing is heading right for me |
| 22:35.12 | Boydell | stinebd: where you at? |
| 22:35.16 | stinebd | eastern pa |
| 22:35.21 | stinebd | they only want about a foot of snow here though |
| 22:35.24 | adamw | Markinus: or it might be backlight |
| 22:35.25 | adamw | Markinus: heh |
| 22:35.30 | adamw | Markinus: best wait for phh for that one :) |
| 22:35.37 | adamw | Markinus: that dump I just sent you is definitely keyboard, though. |
| 22:35.39 | Boydell | stinebd: want? or predicting? |
| 22:36.06 | stinebd | Boydell: that's what they're predicting |
| 22:36.13 | Boydell | ah |
| 22:36.16 | Boydell | thats not enought |
| 22:36.19 | Boydell | *enough |
| 22:36.25 | MrPippy | a random patch for anyone looking at pm: "[ARM] msm: idle: add memory barriers, cache flush, TLB invalidation" https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/le/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=commitdiff;h=c307b720e772c461b3fa02c3199308ee29aad4ee |
| 22:36.31 | stinebd | nobody actually WANTS a foot of snow with the way people drive here |
| 22:36.38 | Boydell | ha |
| 22:36.46 | Boydell | I want like 3-4 feet right now |
| 22:36.49 | Boydell | I have none |
| 22:40.41 | Markinus | adamw: yeah, the is much I2C communication |
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| 22:53.07 | avengerpenguin_ | couple of quick questions if someone can help, 1. am I right in thinking that a defconfig has to be built rather than just using cp txt .config |
| 22:53.42 | Boydell | nope |
| 22:53.48 | makkonen | make ARCH=arm htc_msm_android_defconfig |
| 22:53.55 | Boydell | well, that. |
| 22:53.58 | Boydell | but i think he means |
| 22:54.03 | Boydell | runs the config |
| 22:54.07 | Boydell | *run |
| 22:55.02 | avengerpenguin_ | dont need to run it, I have a defconfig as a text file that cr2 sent me, but it fails during compile but until now I thought it was possible to copy and rename to .config |
| 22:55.28 | Boydell | have to compile it |
| 22:55.30 | Boydell | or w/e |
| 22:55.33 | Boydell | "make" it |
| 22:55.48 | makkonen | copy it over to .config, and then make ARCH=arm menuconfig, maybe? |
| 22:55.57 | avengerpenguin_ | how can I do that from a txt file? |
| 22:56.53 | makkonen | I feel like it should fix it during the regular make, but maybe it doesn't. |
| 22:57.08 | makkonen | avengerpenguin_: I don't really understand what you're asking. |
| 23:00.57 | avengerpenguin_ | sorry I am not being very clear, will try and explain a bit better, I am trying to make a .config file from a txt file I have, I have tried converting the file by "cp config.txt .config" this renames my txt to .config however it will not compile and I cannot run the command "make ARCH=arm" |
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| 23:16.20 | IceBone | phh? |
| 23:16.29 | IceBone | Bah, gone already. |
| 23:23.10 | makkonen | avengerpenguin_: does the txt file look like a .config file? i.e. it says at the top that it's an autoconfigured config file and not to edit it? because if so, unless it's somehow corrupted, that should work. |
| 23:23.14 | makkonen | ...bad timing. |
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