IRC log for #htc-linux on 20100203

00:02.46dcordesMarkinus, seen job recently?
00:03.41dcordes~seen J0b0
00:03.47aptj0b0 <n=jobo@5ED40048.cable.ziggo.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 154d 5h 45m 37s ago, saying: 'i imagine there could be some kind of 'who is there' message that would have all devices report their IDs?'.
00:03.48dcordes~seen J0bo
00:03.48aptdcordes: i haven't seen 'j0bo'
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00:06.40adamwHeh, now I have terminal browser irc and market all running
00:06.52adamwNice stuff pippy :)
00:06.54Boydellok I'm goin try the bank2 shit now
00:07.06adamwBoydell: what phone?
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00:07.31Boydellraph800
00:07.55adamwmrpippy said it wouldn't work for diamond yet, not sure about raphael...
00:08.13BoydellI can try at least lol
00:09.10adamwi need more entry space in the task switcher :P
00:09.16bzoMrPippy and I are both on a diamond
00:09.28adamwoh must've misread
00:09.33adamwsrru
00:09.35adamwsrry
00:10.03bzothink he was talking about the kernel param being different/missing on the diamond
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00:11.19Boydelladamw: what di you have to do to get it working?
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00:13.29adamwBoydell: checked out latest kernel, flipped the default setting for use_extra_bank in arch/arm/mach-msm/pmem.c to 1, built the kernel
00:13.32adamwthat's it
00:14.03Boydellits the flipped setting i wanted thanks :)
00:14.41Boydellarch/arm/mach-msm/board-htcraphael.c:332: warning: passing argument 3 of 'msm_add_usb_devices' from incompatible pointer type
00:14.41Boydellarch/arm/mach-msm/board-htcraphael.c:334: warning: passing argument 3 of 'msm_add_usb_devices' from incompatible pointer type
00:14.49Boydellthose are BAD errors right? ahha
00:14.51adamwyou're supposed to be able to use a kernel param but we couldn't figure it out
00:16.13adamwoh, so I had a random question - what's the current expected status of gps? i'm assuming it's not working but don't really know the details
00:16.50stinebd228MB with ramzswap
00:22.04Boydelladamw: it doesnt work, hows that for you :) :P
00:23.13stinebdholy monkeys, so many things in task manager
00:23.31adamwBoydell: you are overwhelming me with details :P
00:23.51adamwBoydell: it's normal to have some gps-related stuff in dmesg and tester apps claiming that it's enabled, but it not actually doing anything?
00:24.01adamwstinebd: how can you make it list more than 6?
00:24.15BoydellI know :P I know its been pooked at, but nothing has really come of it
00:24.32Boydell*poked
00:24.43stinebdadamw: sorry, i meant advanced task killer (or also home++ task manager)
00:25.08adamwoh yeah that one.
00:25.44adamwhaha yeah i've never had atk scrolling off the bottom of the screen before :P
00:26.06adamwneeds mrpippy's address for beer-delivery purposes
00:29.20makkonenwow. sounds like good stuff has happened in the last few hours.
00:29.31Boydellyes
00:29.34makkonenadamw: I don't have the fixed calibration tool... fixed yet.
00:29.38makkonenboydell: you get it working?
00:29.48Boydellcompiling now
00:30.12BoydellI have baaaad feelings though lol
00:30.35Boydellwhats teh startup for dmesg debug again?
00:30.44Boydellpwf debug.txt ....
00:30.52stinebdit'd be nice if we could have some fancy 3d transitions and animations on that calibration tool
00:30.55stinebdruns
00:31.36makkonen~ramconsole
00:31.37aptfrom memory, ramconsole is pwf dm 0x8e0000 0x20000
00:31.47makkonenboydell: it's that.
00:31.53Boydellthank you :)
00:31.54makkonenkernel panic at boot?
00:32.05Boydellwe shall see. just gettin prepared
00:32.08makkonenhaha
00:32.14adamwmakkonen: can you point me at the broken one? maybe it'll help me figure out the numbers hackily myself.
00:33.38adamwmakkonen: and yeah, mrpippy's extra RAM access stuff is awesome.
00:34.55makkonengot an email address or someplace for me to send a rootfs? or are you on wave, I can send it there. I think this calibration tool should work.
00:35.46makkonen(the init script stuff is hacky, and might still fail. but calibration should work without that.)
00:36.21Boydellmakkonen: kernal panic..
00:36.34makkonenadamw: or we can try dcc over irc. it'll feel like 1998!
00:36.47ReeferMattnessLOL
00:37.14makkonenboydell: wasn't it kernel panicking from some earlier commit, though?
00:37.29Boydellyes
00:37.41makkonendid you figure out which one?
00:37.43Boydelldumping ramconsole now
00:38.27MrPippymakkonen: does the default ramconsole address work for you? i've found that the first 0x2fd0 bytes get cut off
00:38.58makkonenthat happens for me, too. I was going to change it, but it was close enough.
00:39.10makkonenI guess they're getting overwritten on reboot?
00:39.34MrPippyyeah i use start=0x8e2fd0 and size=0x1d030, that works perfectly
00:40.16MrPippyi probably would have changed it a while ago in-tree but i'm not sure the clean way to specify something just for one device in pmem.c
00:40.36BoydellKernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
00:41.30adamwmakkonen: sorry, went for a shower
00:41.37adamwmakkonen: email to adamwill@shaw.ca is fine
00:43.24BoydellUnable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000004
00:44.08Boydellbah any ideas on the kernal panic anyone?
00:44.23MrPippydo you have any more of the backtrace?
00:44.25makkonenadamw: sent. in 7z, sorry.
00:44.30adamwmakkonen: that's okay.
00:45.46Boydellhttp://pastebin.com/m24af1fea
00:46.16Boydelllooks like maybe from the batt changes?
00:48.14MrPippyyup
00:48.31adamwstinebd: what did it need to fix keyboard open/close triggering rotation on fuze?
00:49.12Boydellso is the last one the one that made it crash? so battery_charging_ctrl?
00:51.48MrPippyyeah its something in the last patch
00:53.02adamwmakkonen: watching hockey for a bit will test soon
00:53.29adamwMonitoring irc with my phone on the couch, hehe
00:53.43makkonenadamw: it's working on mine, I assume it will on yours, too. (aside from finding the correct input# for the device, in which case it won't correctly save the calibration)
00:54.09makkonen(but will work... you'll just have to manually save it, or recalibrate every boot until I get a better solution worked out)
00:54.16adamwIts input1 on tilt2
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00:54.24makkonenthat's how I have it set.
00:54.28makkonenso all should be good.
00:54.38MrPippyboydell, have you built a new kernel since the one that crashed?
00:54.40adamwOk, cool.
00:55.17BoydellMrPippy: ? This is the newest kernal I have built
00:55.23BoydellWith all the latest commits
00:55.43MrPippyok, can you go into the root of your kernel tree and run arm-none-eabi-gdb vmlinux
00:55.58Markinusadamw: I have here a test build with rotation. I will upload this, you can test then whether it's working on Rhod or not . . sould work . .
00:56.26stinebdadamw: that was working long before i did any work on the keyboard, so i don't know anything about it
00:56.30adamwMark: oh excellent
00:56.33BoydellMrPippy: arm-none-eabi-gdb: command not found
00:56.52adamwAw. No automatic completion on andchat, heh
00:56.53makkonenit's in your arm-2008q3 directory
00:57.06makkonenoh, actually, it might not be.
00:57.27Boydellits not
00:57.33adamwIf its running gdb something is wrong, I think.
00:57.44Boydellthey are all arm-none-linux*
00:58.05makkonenyeah, use arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gdb
00:58.23makkonen(I assume. I've never actually futzed with gdb)
00:59.10MrPippyyeah like makkonen said
00:59.11BoydellK, now what MrPippy
00:59.24MrPippynow do l *0xc004bba0
00:59.52Boydell0xc004bba0 is in battery_charging_ctrl (arch/arm/mach-msm/htc_battery_smem.c:239).
00:59.54Boydell234result = gpio_direction_output(htc_batt_info.resources->gpio_charger_enable, 0);
00:59.56Boydell235break;
00:59.59Boydell236case ENABLE_FAST_CHG:
01:00.00Boydell237if(debug_mask&DEBUG_CABLE)
01:00.02Boydell238BATT("charger ON (FAST)\n");
01:00.04Boydell239result = gpio_direction_output(htc_batt_info.resources->gpio_charger_current_select, 1);
01:00.06Boydell240result = gpio_direction_output(htc_batt_info.resources->gpio_charger_enable, 0);
01:00.09Boydell241break;
01:00.11Boydell242default:
01:00.12Boydell243printk(KERN_ERR "Not supported battery ctr called.!\n");
01:00.14Markinusadamw: you have to use the old default.txt (old TS driver in this testbuild), wlan isn'T working etc. This is only for Rotation testing. Start maps or browser or so and rotate your device. . .  Link is comming soon
01:00.42makkonendammit. now I need adb... and it's not working again. I hate adb.
01:00.58MrPippyok thanks, so its the gpio call
01:01.14Boydellok
01:01.20MrPippymakkonen: yesterday's htc_battery_smem patches killed usb for me, i'm using the old one
01:01.40makkonenno, this is weirder. I'm using a kernel from the 30th, which had working adb.
01:01.57makkonenand the device is showing up in win7. but 'device offline' when I run adb shell.
01:01.58BoydellI think I may revert the htc_battery_smem stuff
01:02.15Boydelldid it "start"
01:02.30MrPippyand boydell, its weird because i don't think there have been any changes to the gpio stuff lately
01:02.53BoydellI didnt think so
01:03.35adamwMarkinus: ah I see this is meant to make it work with *rotation*
01:03.40adamwMarkinus: not keyboard pullout
01:04.01adamwit's the stuff you committed earlier. got it
01:04.07Markinusadamw: yeah, but it sould help too! :)
01:04.11adamwyup
01:04.16adamwstill better than using the stylus :)
01:04.25Markinusand you can play nice games :P
01:04.30adamwwill test in a bit - watching the hockey, hehe
01:04.32adamwyep that too
01:04.35Boydellwhere is phh when you need him
01:05.06MrPippyboydell, does it crash consistently when you boot?
01:05.32Boydellat the same spot every time you mean?
01:05.35adamwooh. phone just...well, dunno, crashed i guess? was left looking at the dmesg output
01:05.40adamwi'll check the log in a bit
01:05.42MrPippyyeah
01:06.01Boydelllets have another look
01:06.45Markinusadamw: here some food: http://www.multiupload.com/YHCDFPNA84
01:07.00Boydelllooks like it did, dumping ramconsole and going to compare
01:09.20adamwMarkinus: dling, thanks
01:09.40Boydellyah it crashed at the same spot
01:10.43MrPippyok
01:11.17adamwdamn, the dmesg log on my sd card missed the crash somehow.
01:11.27Boydellouch
01:11.31adamwMarkinus: oh, how far did  you ever get with sound? have you given up on it for now?
01:11.44BoydellGoin try booting without it plugged in
01:11.51Boydellnot sure if itll make a difference
01:13.28Markinusadamw: sound is a big problem on Topaz, we tested very much thinks in very many sleepless nights . . but this isn'T working. . . cr2 helped much too but it isn't working :(
01:13.50adamwMarkinus: oh fun :/ any idea what's wrong or is it one of those mysterious things?
01:13.54BoydellNope, still crashes. makkonen feel free to download the latest and "greatest" patches :)
01:14.45MrPippyboydell: you're still using the old 2008q1 toolchain, we're using 2008q3, i don't think it makes a difference but give it a try
01:14.54Markinusadamw: it's very hard to find out what we need. I seems to be a AMSS software problem
01:15.14Boydelli have 2008q3
01:15.31adamwMarkinus: owch :( well good luck...i'd help but it sounds out of my league :( and i guess the hardware is the same with rhodium for sound?
01:15.36Boydelli have 2009q3 sitting here too butnotusing it
01:15.54Markinuscr2 meen it's a bit more difficoult . .
01:16.04MrPippyreally? have you installed patches for it? i have 2008q3 and the binaries are all arm-none-eabi-*
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01:16.31Boydellthats the way it was when i downloaded it
01:16.35Boydellhavent touched it
01:16.54MrPippyweird
01:17.02Boydellyah no kidding lol
01:17.54BoydellThe only thing i see changed there is the debug stuff
01:18.58Boydellbut im also using a new rootfs
01:20.04MrPippyyeah whatever is causing battery_charging_ctrl to be called is from /init, its writing to charger_state
01:20.08MrPippybut thats in the old rootfs i'm using also
01:20.22Boydellyours doesnt crash?
01:21.10MrPippyno but i'm using an old htc_battery_smem
01:21.43Boydelloh right, it killed usb for you
01:24.09MrPippybtw markinus i was getting a linking bug from bma150
01:24.47MarkinusMrPippy: ohh, what was missing?
01:24.51MrPippyWARNING: drivers/i2c/built-in.o(__ksymtab+0xf8): Section mismatch in reference from the variable __ksymtab_bma150_init to the function .init.text:bma150_init()
01:24.52MrPippyThe symbol bma150_init is exported and annotated __init
01:24.52MrPippyFix this by removing the __init annotation of bma150_init or drop the export.
01:25.20MrPippyprobably just need to get rid of the export
01:25.35adamwmakkonen: calibration worked perfect, nice job
01:25.35Markinusohh, yes, this was only a test, we don't need this
01:25.39MarkinusI remove this
01:25.50adamwstrangely it then re-ran the 'welcome to android' sequence after boot, but no problem
01:26.02adamwis it being used as a 'have you run android before' test?
01:26.55adamwoh wait never mind
01:26.59adamwi just copied the wrong file heh
01:27.16Markinus:p
01:27.35Markinuscat name
01:27.41BoydellMrPippy: Well I removed the stuff that was added in htc_battery_smem, lets see if that fixed it
01:27.52Markinusarght, ro many windows ;)
01:28.52MrPippyBoydell: it might just be that this code was always broken, but it just never got called before
01:29.47Boydellbut what is different that is calling it now?
01:31.55BoydellBut I think your right, because all that new stuff was just for debuggin, and I had that set to off, so..
01:33.06Boydellstill panicks
01:33.08Boydellshit
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01:35.37MrPippyits weird that the panic is in battery_charging_ctrl itself, and not the gpio function
01:35.58BoydellIt has to be something with the new rootfs/system.sqsf i downloaded
01:36.32MrPippyis it the latest xdandroid?
01:36.41Boydellnope
01:36.42Boydelllol
01:37.19BoydellIt was from leobaillard
01:37.54Boydellhttp://htcandroid.xland.cz/XDANDROID.02.02.10.7z
01:38.15Boydellhrm maybe it is XDANDROID
01:38.23adamwBoydell: i'm running that (slightly modified) with a current kernel and it works
01:38.45Boydelldifferent phone though?
01:38.48adamwyeah
01:39.02Boydellyah see it ran with HIS zImage
01:39.07Boydellbut not mine
01:39.09adamwah
01:40.58BoydellMrPippy: you try that build, see what happens?
01:41.06MrPippyi'm gonna try the latest kernel
01:41.24Boydellkernel as in zImage correct?
01:41.31MrPippyyeah
01:41.52adamwthe new touchscreen stuff seems fine with a proper calibration configuration
01:42.03makkonenis that new one working?
01:43.59adamwmakkonen: yup
01:44.01adamwworked 100%
01:44.10makkonensweet
01:44.11adamwutility ran on boot, saved the calibration, calibration works correctly
01:44.30adamwthe instructions and the calibration targets kinda overlap, but hey, that's icing hehe
01:44.37makkonenhuh
01:44.50makkonenthey don't on mine. I made a special point of it.
01:45.04makkonenmaybe I'll throw a few more linefeeds in there.
01:45.38adamwyeah, that could be it. the native res framebuffer gives teeny-tiny lines on tp2.
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01:48.44BoydellI'm downloading the old set-up right now. I'll see if that works or not..
01:49.11MrPippythat'd be good to know, either way the kernel shouldn't be crashing because something wrote to dbgfs
01:50.14Boydellya we'll see
01:51.39bzoMrPippy, poked around with the pmem settings. Running with 208mb now
01:52.09MrPippyhaha wow! what did you reduce?
01:52.57bzoreplicated the gsm diamond settings pmem 32->16, adsp 16->8
01:55.14MrPippycool
01:55.28MrPippythats more available ram than the hero has ;-)
01:55.54bzoheh, android would like even more memory I think. Only 2.5mb free, with 2mb used in buffers
01:56.19bzoremains to be seen whether this is stable - only running for about 20 minues :)
01:58.03BoydellMrPippy: the extra memory in the cmd line, where you looking for pmem.extra?
01:58.35MrPippyyeah that should be it
01:58.35makkonenI've been running with pmem.extra=1 for a while... I don't think it's sufficient to enable it.
01:58.52Boydellguess not, gotta do it manually :(
01:59.21MrPippymaybe just 'extra=1'?
01:59.44BoydellI duuno. I did it in my code
01:59.47adamwyeah we haven't figured out the param heh
02:00.05makkonenI don't get the cmdline. sometimes really obvious things that are listed in the code... you them in the cmdline... nothing.
02:00.37makkonenboydell: you getting anywhere?
02:00.53adamwi'm still not convinced you can pass parameters to 'modules' that have actually been built in to the kernel
02:01.02adamwi don't think i've seen it work
02:01.21Boydellmakkonen: no. Im downloading that latest package on XDANDROID thats in the forums.
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02:01.38adamwthe somemodule.someparameter=somevalue thing i've only ever seen work with modules actually compiled as .ko modules
02:02.13bzoMrPippy, are you running the smd_tty changes?
02:02.27MrPippyyeah
02:03.18bzostill seem to have some marketplace stability issues, may have to give it a try
02:03.36makkonenok. got calibration working elegantly now. Now I just have to give it to someone.
02:04.00adamwmarkinen: so to test the rotation thing - i'll need to boot it with an old kernel / userspace?
02:04.03Boydellanyone want to start a fund for me to get better internet :\
02:04.25BoydellI'm downloading at 25 KB/sec
02:04.26makkonen...you probably do.
02:04.34Markinusadamw: the ernel is in the package ,  ,
02:04.35makkonenbut I can't really think of anyone else.
02:04.46bzofirst I'll back out the pmem changes to make sure that's not the issue
02:04.48adamwmakkonen: owch, cold
02:04.52Markinusis a new one, newest sources, but old TS driver activate
02:05.00Markinus:)
02:05.05adamwMarkinus: ah, k
02:05.06makkonenadamw: thanks. I try.
02:05.16adamw:)
02:06.06adamwMarkinus: there's no kernel in the archive you sent me, just a rootfs
02:06.27MarkinusI have a error message with the calibration utility, calibration_screen no such file or directory . .
02:06.33MrPippyok i booted the current htc_battery_smem with my old rootfs and it seems to be working
02:06.34Markinusehh, 50 MB?
02:06.42adamwMarkinus: hell wait nm
02:06.42Markinusrootfs, system and zImage
02:06.46adamwMarkinus: I got crossed up
02:06.55adamwMarkinus: i was looking at the email from makkonen :)
02:07.18Markinusohh :)
02:07.21BoydellMrPippy: thats a start? lol
02:07.40MrPippyheh yeah i'm downloading your xdandroid link now
02:07.56Boydellmine?
02:08.03Boydellerm the 02.02?
02:08.34makkonenMarkinus: the posted rootfs has broken calibration on any device that isn't a raph/diam.
02:09.14makkonenI just put the finishing touches on a fix that I'm actually not embarrassed by. I can email or otherwise send if you'd like to be the guinea pig.
02:10.51Markinusmakkonen: ahh ok, if you have one than I can test it on my Topaz.
02:10.52adamwsecond guineau pig? :)
02:10.52adamwor different frm the one I got?
02:11.22makkonenslightly different. no hardcoded device directory.
02:11.30adamwah
02:11.41makkonenmarkinus: yeah, should work fine. email?
02:11.55makkonen(feel free to /msg if you're private.)
02:12.04makkonen(I would)
02:12.25Boydellbecasse i will SPAM YOU!
02:12.27Boydelllol jk
02:12.34adamwMarkinus: did I need anything special in STARTUP.TXT for the rotation?
02:12.45Markinusno
02:12.55adamwso just boot the files in the 7z and it should work? kk
02:13.03Markinusyes
02:13.08adamwit's booting now
02:14.22adamwMarkinus: nada :/
02:14.27Markinusit could be boot a bit longer . . . much debug stuff in this build
02:14.30adamwtipping around doesn't rotate screen
02:14.37adamwgetevent shows nothing if i throw it around
02:14.39Markinusdid you start a application?
02:15.10adamwjust loaded browser
02:15.41Markinusand give the device time 1 or 2 second to rotate
02:16.19adamwnope
02:16.22bzoMrPippy: interestingly, the hero only allocates 8mb for pmem. However, it allocates 16mb for the camera
02:16.49MrPippyhmm
02:16.49MrPippyw
02:17.05MrPippywe have a higher screen res so i don't mind a bigger pmem, 32mb is a lot though
02:17.10Markinushmm, maybe has rhod a other bma150 version,
02:17.11MrPippywe can ask phh if he has any opinion
02:17.32Markinusadamw: look in dmesg to "Initialized MicroP-LED chip revision"
02:17.38Markinuswhat behind this?
02:17.43Markinus0a0e?
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02:18.45adamwv0a88
02:18.58makkonenboydell: ok. I'm getting down to looking at all the new commits. anything I should know to get up to speed quicker?
02:19.00adamwMarkinus: ^^
02:19.17Boydelluh
02:19.26Boydellyou just merge right?
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02:19.50makkonenyeah. do you know which commits cause things to totally break down?
02:19.52Markinusadamw: ahh okay. . .  now I have to look
02:20.00Boydellno
02:20.05Boydellhow far back are you?
02:20.30adamwMarkinus: dmesg shows bma150 loading and registering as input3, but like I say, never gets any events afaict
02:20.36bzoMrPippy: in any case, I guess that accounts for memory difference with hero (8mb pmem+16mb camera) vs my 208 setup (16mb pmem + 1mb camera)
02:20.59adamwthe camera gets its own reserved memory? huh.
02:21.02Markinusadamw: yeah, becaus the Version is a other one . .a make a new file . .
02:21.14adamwMarkinus: okey dokey, lemme know when you're done :)
02:21.21Boydellmakkonen: up and including feb 1st is ok
02:21.30Boydellits something in the feb 2nd commits
02:21.37Boydellare you able to pull one commit at a time?
02:21.41Boydelland test?
02:22.41adamwisn't that bisecting? git-bisect
02:22.56BoydellI'm a got n00b
02:23.02Boydellso I have NO idea
02:23.05adamwme too but I know some buzzwords :P
02:23.15adamwman git-bisect will give you an idea (if you're on a linux system)
02:23.32Boydellgit work on other systems?
02:23.43adamwwhere else are you getting your kernel source tree?
02:24.06Boydelluh
02:24.26Boydellmakkonen and I work on a personal clone of the main tree
02:24.36Boydellsince things like to fudge up the raph800
02:24.52Boydellso we once and a while pull stuff from the main and test it
02:24.53adamwright but if you don't have git how are you working on it?
02:24.55Boydellthen commit it
02:25.01BoydellI do have it
02:25.04adamwoh.
02:25.06Boydellon a linux system
02:25.08adamwoh i see
02:25.12BoydellI was saying though
02:25.19Boydellgit can work on other systems?
02:25.42adamwi dunno
02:25.53Boydellme either
02:26.10adamwprobably, most stuff gets ported.
02:26.43stinebdwell there's cygwin or msysgit
02:28.41Boydellah windows. I love you. I hate you.
02:29.23adamwheh.
02:32.05adamwman, this is some good beer.
02:32.27Boydellwhat kind?
02:32.41adamwla fin du monde
02:32.49Boydellnever heard
02:32.50Boydelllol
02:32.54ReeferMattnesssounds fancy :)
02:32.59adamwhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Fin_du_Monde_%28beer%29
02:33.15Boydelllooks expensive
02:33.20Boydelltoo expensive for my taste
02:33.23adamwhe
02:33.24adamwh
02:33.30Markinusadamw: try this kernel http://www.multiupload.com/5G6W7678EG
02:33.50adamwMarkinus: will do when the game's over
02:34.25BoydellMrPippy: tried old build, the 24.01.10
02:34.32Boydellwith my zimage and modules
02:34.35Boydellstill panicks
02:34.40Boydellso its something in the kernal
02:34.47Boydellbut I don't get what
02:34.52Boydellmakkonen: you had any luck?
02:37.55MrPippyboydell: you're on the latest tree?
02:38.05MrPippytry do a 'make clean' and build again and see if it matters
02:38.10BoydellI believe so?
02:38.36Boydelli thought thats make -B .........
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02:40.18adamwMarkinus: booting
02:40.36noisyzenAbout to go to bed, but, I've got a Topaz, I'm relatively computer literate (perl dev and linux user for about 10 years) and a willing guinea pig.
02:40.59noisyzenAnd I've been digging around in the rootfs.img all night and am dying to learn this stuff now.
02:41.25adamwnoisyzen: markinus is the topaz guy :)
02:41.52noisyzenadamw: awesome, thanks :) i just read a few pages of the irc logs. had to come in here. :)
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02:44.47Markinusnoisyzen: Hi, in the moment there is no test stuff . .  but it's good to know if we have something new. .
02:45.23adamwMarkinus: doesn't work at first shot...behaves like the first
02:45.37noisyzenMarkinus: Awesome. I'm dealing with the touchscreen calibration issue right now. Just gonna boot into winmo and see what tomorrow brings.
02:46.09randomblamedoes anyone know if the dex cache's address is hardcoded on the msm7201a?
02:46.13Markinusadamw: hmmm, the we have to look deeper on Rhod . .maybe there is something more doferent . .
02:46.27adamwMarkinus: let me know what i can check for you
02:46.37adamwMarkinus: maybe noisyzen can check and verify it works on his topaz :)
02:46.45noisyzenadamw: her topaz :P
02:47.03adamwnoisyzen: ah sorry :(
02:47.08adamwnoisyzen: i hate doing that
02:47.15noisyzenadamw: haha it's okay. i know it's relatively rare.
02:47.16adamwbad to make assumptions but sadly it's usually true...
02:47.48randomblameno one knows? :D
02:47.53noisyzenadamw: yah, i hear ya, and yah it is usually true.
02:48.11Markinusadamw: did you have the first link what I posted?
02:48.19Markinusthis have to work on Topaz . .
02:48.29adamwMarkinus: um i can pull it out of my log, just a sec
02:48.56adamwhttp://www.multiupload.com/YHCDFPNA84
02:49.23Markinusnoisyzen: with this build the rotation on your Topaz has to work
02:50.35Markinusnoisyzen: till now its only verifyed on my Topaz . . if you have a bit Time you could test it . .
02:50.37noisyzenMarkinus: sweet. now, if i can get the touchscreen to work, i'm golden. I had the latest XDANDROID build but think I should wipe it out and put the last one on?
02:50.53noisyzenMarkinus: yeah, I've got a few. not too long, but i definitely have time to test this.
02:51.04noisyzenMarkinus: lemme format my sd and put my old build on.
02:51.32Markinusyou need the old dmesg, there is the old Touchscreen driver activated
02:51.38Markinusdefault.txt
02:51.38Markinussorry
02:52.44noisyzenMarkinus: I've got an old build that I had on this morning. I modified the system.sqsh. I need pwf dm.txt in there?
02:53.21Markinusno, take my files from the archive and replace your files ( system.sqfs, root.img and zImage )
02:53.29noisyzenah okay
02:53.40Markinusbut you have to use the default.txt with the TS calib parameters
02:55.20noisyzenMarkinus: what i've got on the phone right now is XDANDROID.02.02.10
02:56.06Markinusthis is based on this from 24.01
02:56.08noisyzenMarkinus: this is my STARTUP.TXT: set cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmts_calib=0x395.0x3d5.0x79.0xa0 clock-7x00.a11=500 msmvkeyb_toggle=off pmem.extra=1 gsensor_axis=-1,-2,3"
02:56.14Markinusbut with a new sensors driver
02:56.31noisyzenOkay. So, I should put 24.01 back on then?
02:56.43Markinustake the gsensor axis away, you don'T need this
02:56.47noisyzenokay
02:57.01adamwMarkinus: i have that in my startup.txt too, could it have affected my tests?
02:57.40noisyzenMarkinus: Okay, I took that out of my startup.txt. This is the 02.02 build. I'm going to replace the files in my sd with the ones in your archive.
02:57.47Markinusyeah, with this parameters you can change the directions of x/y/z
02:57.58Markinusyes
02:58.29Markinusmakkonen: The new calibration prog is working very well! :)
02:59.31noisyzenMarkinus: should I delete the ts-calibration file on my /sdcard?
02:59.42Markinusno, it isn'T needed
02:59.49noisyzenokay, here goes.
03:00.32noisyzenoops. Forgot to put pwf dm.txt in there.
03:00.49Markinusyou have to start the browser or maps, or settings, then you can rotate your device to left, 1 - 2 sek and this should the display rotate
03:00.59BoydellMrPippy: clean build. nothing.
03:01.06noisyzenbeautiful. It's booting up into the startup animation right now.
03:02.21noisyzengoing through the google account setup now
03:02.35Markinusther sould this work too
03:03.22noisyzenI'm on 02.02 build... but it is not working on the Signup screen. Let me go through this and will verify on browser.
03:03.50randomblameanyone know how arm9 and arm11 can communicate besides smd in a msm7201a it seems like there may be an alternate route because smd is not working properly but the cores are aware of each others state
03:04.00Markinusbut you replaced all three files?
03:04.24noisyzenYup.
03:04.52MrPippyrandomblame: what are you working on?
03:04.57randomblamelg-incite
03:05.06noisyzenas a side note, have you noticed that if your phone goes to sleep that you end up missing calls? that happened to me earlier... all of a sudden I had a voice mail icon and no phone notificatoin or missed call notification
03:05.11noisyzenokay opening browser.
03:06.06Markinushmm, no I didn't noticed this  .. .
03:06.10noisyzenfrozen
03:06.18Markinus?
03:06.18noisyzenbut a download from earlier also started going.
03:06.23noisyzenbut frozen when opened browser.
03:06.47noisyzenrebooting will try again
03:06.47Markinushmmmm
03:07.21Markinusopen the settings dialog, there this have to work too. The crash could be somethink else
03:07.39noisyzenok, then after this i go to sleep
03:08.27randomblameMrPippy : when I disable the radios in winmo before launching the kernel I get past my arm9 has crashed error which suggests to me that there is communication between the cores but I still get dex errors and an init kill panic
03:08.38Markinusyes, I too, 4am . ..
03:08.43BoydellMrPippy: any more ideas?
03:08.45noisyzenoh  man. it's only 10:00 pm here
03:09.24noisyzenmy poor sdcard. :)
03:09.26Boydell10:09
03:09.28Boydell")
03:09.43Boydellnoisyzen: where you from?
03:09.51noisyzenBoydell: Michigan. You? :)
03:09.55noisyzenBoydell: and 10:10 :)
03:09.57BoydellOntario
03:10.02noisyzenoh nice!
03:10.22Boydellyes sir :)
03:10.27noisyzenBoydell: ma'am :P
03:10.35Boydellma'am eh!
03:10.42noisyzenhaha, yup, eh
03:10.56Boydellwow. Think you MAY BE the first
03:11.14randomblameeh
03:11.15MrPippyrandomblame: i'm not sure, there's so much that could be different about lg's amss
03:11.39randomblameyeah I know the amss version id is stored in a different memory address
03:11.51randomblameso I don't know what version it is annoyingly enough
03:12.19noisyzenBoydell: :)
03:12.22noisyzenokay, opened browser.
03:12.25noisyzenrotating it to left...
03:12.59noisyzenMarkinus: nothing :( doesn't rotate... Gotta go to bed though, but I will be back tomorow for certain
03:13.02Boydellnoisyzen: btw who SLEEPS at 10PM?
03:13.10adamwnormal people do
03:13.11randomblame<PROTECTED>
03:13.18noisyzenBoydell: haha, people who wake up at 6:30am :P
03:13.20Markinusnoisyzen: ok, I have to make a clean build . . . Tommorow
03:13.40Boydellnoisyzen: haha True I guess.
03:13.42noisyzenMarkinus: ok awesome. Sounds good. I've got the HTC Pure, btw w/ at&t kinda topaz.
03:13.56noisyzenOkay. I'm out. Don't have this in a screen session, so will catch up on logs tomorrow :)
03:13.59noisyzeng'nite all.
03:14.01MarkinusP.S. I'M from Germany  ..  :)
03:14.08Markinusgood night!
03:14.14Boydellnight
03:14.17MrPippyi don't know if there's that many lg phones with the 7201a
03:14.17Markinusmaybe is pure a bit different. .
03:14.22noisyzenMarkinus: oh nice. :) my dad's family came over to the states from germany. rheinbach i think.. but not sure.
03:14.30noisyzenit's topa something or other on the back.
03:14.36noisyzenokay i'm going to sleep now.
03:14.37noisyzengnite
03:14.42Markinusbye
03:14.52randomblame7200a would be practically the same
03:15.29MarkinusI too, night
03:15.48MrPippyhmm lg does make the eve/gw620 which is 7200a
03:15.54MrPippyi don't know if they've released kernel source though
03:17.30randomblamewoah thanks for the tip I wasn't aware of that phone looks like they're getting some work done on it
03:18.26randomblameI know the lg gm750 uses the same memory structure as the incite because our kernel is working on it exactly the same and it has a 7200a only diff is some missing video capture abilities
03:19.04MrPippylooks like they have some of lg's code somewhere in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=585784&page=51
03:19.33randomblameplease god let it be proc_comm
03:20.37randomblameooh they have a wiki
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03:24.48MrPippyheres the code from page 56 of their thread http://depositfiles.com/en/files/zibqndg0g
03:25.24randomblameawesome
03:25.49randomblamelets hope lg kept things the same between their devices
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03:26.35MrPippyi guess its 2.6.27, and the people there haven't had much luck bringing it up to 2.6.29
03:27.18randomblameyeah I'm working of 2.6.27 anyways, I figure it's the most stable and best understood and I can always work on porting the changes later
03:27.33randomblamethis device probably wouldn't be happy with android 2.0 anyways
03:28.22MrPippyyeah, not much ram
03:28.22MrPippywei
03:28.26MrPippyweird screen res too
03:28.32randomblameyep
03:29.39randomblame128mb severely reduced by the nature of the arcitecture
03:30.13randomblamemaybe 30mb for applications after all is said and done
03:31.31stinebdit runs surprisingly well with that much though
03:31.43randomblame1.6 or 2.0?
03:32.09stinebdi've been running 2.0 on a raph with roughly 120mb or so (after ramzswap) until just today
03:32.35stinebdof course it runs better with more
03:33.06randomblameI'm just having fun with the kernel hacking
03:33.37randomblameby the time it's running properly I'll probably have a new phone haha
03:34.14randomblamebut if this source is complete and lg kept their memory structure the same I could have a bootable kernel tonite
03:35.10MrPippysomeone in that thread posted a list of files with LG change tags in them, its a lot of files
03:35.45MrPippyyay fixed the vbus/usb problem in the latest htc_battery_smem
03:35.55randomblamegrats
03:36.05Boydellyay
03:36.06Boydellnot
03:36.07Boydellnow
03:36.18Boydellfix my kernel panic :) lol
03:37.22randomblamelinus torvalds never read the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy
03:37.33MrPippyboydell you are raph800?
03:37.56Boydellyes
03:38.34MrPippydoes 'git status' in your tree show anything?
03:39.15Boydell# On branch htc-msm-2.6.27
03:39.17Boydell# Your branch is ahead of 'origin/htc-msm-2.6.27' by 40 commits.
03:39.19Boydell#
03:39.21Boydell# Changed but not updated:
03:39.23Boydell#   (use "git add <file>..." to update what will be committed)
03:39.25Boydell#   (use "git checkout -- <file>..." to discard changes in working directory)
03:39.27Boydell#
03:39.29Boydell#modified:   arch/arm/mach-msm/board-htcdiamond.c
03:39.31Boydell#modified:   arch/arm/mach-msm/board-htcraphael.c
03:39.33Boydell#modified:   arch/arm/mach-msm/htc_battery_smem.c
03:39.35Boydell#modified:   arch/arm/mach-msm/pmem.c
03:39.37Boydell#
03:39.39Boydell# Untracked files:
03:39.41Boydell#   (use "git add <file>..." to include in what will be committed)
03:39.43Boydell#
03:39.45Boydell#pull.sh
03:39.47Boydell#push.sh
03:39.48stinebdpastebin!
03:39.49Boydellno changes added to commit (use "git add" and/or "git commit -a")
03:39.51Boydelljamie@jamie-desktop:~/Android/linux-msm-cdma$
03:40.07Boydellit wasnt log enough to justify pastebin :P
03:40.10Boydell*long
03:40.11stinebdyes it was
03:40.17Boydellonly a few line, pfft
03:40.45MrPippywow how do you pull changes?
03:40.58Boydellfrom the main?
03:41.03MrPippyyeah
03:41.25Boydellgit pull git://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm.git htc-msm-2.6.27
03:41.43Boydellor pull.sh :)
03:41.47Boydellcuz im lazy
03:41.53stinebdjust edit the git config
03:42.06BoydellI dont want to pull from the main all the time though
03:42.18Boydellusually makkonen's tree
03:43.22randomblameWoot
03:45.21BoydellMrPippy: why do you ask?
03:45.49MrPippyyour branch ahead of origin by 40 commits is just weird to see
03:46.13Boydellyes It prob is ;p;
03:46.28MrPippyand its a really weird panic that no one can reproduce, so a known clean source tree would help
03:46.47makkonenalright. dinner over, nothing on tv... time to get down to bisecting.
03:47.39BoydellI did a clean tree off makkonen's. Built and booted fine. Grabbed the commits from main, it bugged up
03:47.40makkonenholy hell, my phone feels like a heating pad.
03:49.11makkonenMrPippy: do you have any idea where to look to fix the issue with the mic not working unless a call is in progress at boot? It's really one of the most annoying things on the (long) list of annoying things at the moment, I was thinking I should put some time into tracking it down.
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03:50.40MrPippyagreed, i can't think of a way other than tracing rpc calls in winmo while making a call
03:51.18MrPippyi don't know much about the audio routing, but i think its rpc and not just some bits flipped in smem (which would be too easy)
03:51.29makkonencan haretconsole get at that?
03:52.02MrPippyyeah
03:52.14makkonenwith wirq?
03:52.25MrPippyyeah and mmutrace
03:52.30MrPippydecoding the output is not easy though
03:52.31makkonenbleh
03:52.55MrPippyi think cr2 was talking this morning about writing python to decode rpc traces
03:53.09makkonenI saw that. I didn't understand, but I saw.
03:53.41MrPippyharetconsole is python, maybe it could be written to hook in there
03:53.54MrPippyi'll be back later
03:54.02makkonenadios
03:54.04randomblameodd this source is laid out so close but it differs in the important spots
03:54.19randomblameno proc_comm_wince
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04:11.45makkonenboydell: how far into the boot does it kernel panic? (if you're still around to answer)
04:11.56Boydellyah im here
04:12.05Boydelldid you see the pastebin?
04:12.20makkonenbefore the splashscreen, I assume?
04:12.32Boydell<PROTECTED>
04:12.58makkonenoh yeah, real early. ok.
04:13.05Boydellyah
04:13.14Boydellit looks like when it tries to hand over usb
04:13.17Boydellor enable it
04:13.18Boydellw/e
04:14.00makkonenI think my repo is confused. trying to run git bisect and it is... not testing reasonable things.
04:14.26Boydell:\
04:16.27makkonenI'm going to revert that thing about the dex debug messages, too. they don't seem very useful.
04:16.51BoydellThey can be. But I guess its just spamming.
04:17.22makkonenthey can be very useful, but only if something's already broken. At least, that's the impression I'm getting.
04:19.23BoydellI guess. I dunno
04:20.28BoydellI'm kinda just grabbin at limbs most of the time.
04:20.37makkonenhaha
04:21.00Boydelland they usually lead to dead ends
04:21.18makkonenthat sounds like a strong metaphor.
04:21.49Boydellummm?
04:22.02makkonendead... limbs... tree... falling. I don't know.
04:22.45makkonensomeone on the ppcgeeks thread asked if there was a way to switch from android to windows and back without soft resetting.
04:23.00makkonen...I really wish there was. my phone is so agonizingly slow to reboot.
04:23.30BoydellMine isnt too bad. It would be nice though. I've found android just too unstable rightn ow. after about 12 hours it reboots
04:24.31makkonenand it's slow. I want this extra ram.
04:24.38Boydellyes
04:24.41BoydellI want it tooooo
04:25.40Boydelland luck with the bisects yet though?
04:26.16makkonen3 more kernels to test before it tells me anything.
04:26.54Boydelllol
04:27.08makkonenI could've done thsi faster manually.
04:27.13Boydellthey are working though? what commit are you at?
04:28.38makkonen0e76791b851df4a02556d3d53178acd61e7b3b42
04:30.21Boydellso you've passed the battery stuff?
04:30.35makkonenyeah, seems so.
04:30.46Boydelland everything is working so far?
04:30.58Boydellhave you build each time?
04:31.03Boydell*built
04:31.20makkonenyeah.
04:31.29makkonenmaybe that's the build it's testing now, not the last one I tested.
04:32.15makkonenbut I'm pretty sure it's not, and that it booted fine.
04:32.28BoydellWell if it for some reason works for you. Then I'll be pissed
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04:32.34makkonenheh
04:33.22makkonenwell, if I get it working, you can just reset and pull my changes, make sure there's nothing weird in there.
04:33.56makkonenI do have an upsetting thing coming up in my builds. modpost: Found 1 section mismatch(es). To see full details build your kernel with: 'make CONFIG_DEBUG_SECTION_MISMATCH=y'
04:34.09BoydellI think i have that too
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04:34.57makkonenoh. my battery stuff got reverted. fuck you, git.
04:35.05Boydellwtf?
04:35.10Boydellgit is REALLY annoying
04:35.14Boydellit needs a gui
04:35.15Boydell:)
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04:35.30makkonenI'm sure there are guis for it. I love it most of the time.
04:35.38makkonenthe more little tricks I learn, the more impressed I am.
04:36.15bzomakkonen, are you using the y.gen dual boot?
04:36.23makkonenno.
04:36.34makkonenI'd like to, but... need to dial a call before booting android.
04:36.37bzoreally cuts down on the reboot time
04:36.54bzoyeah, needs that fix to be practical :)
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04:36.59makkonenI imagine. I guess I could use it for testing.
04:37.10randomblamewhat kernel versions do not include proc_comm_wince.c
04:37.11makkonenexcept I usually need to load files between boots, which requires winmo coming up.
04:37.30bzoI've been using adb push for that
04:37.49makkonenI don't think adb's working for me anymore. If I look at it funny, it breaks.
04:38.07bzoheh, probbaly because you're using it in windows
04:38.30BoydellI could never get it working in linux
04:38.31makkonenmore than likely.
04:39.13makkonenand I tried to put partitions on my sd card... and it caused it to be unreadable in windows. so I formatted the windows partition in windows... and now the ext2 partitions are gone again. everything is the worst.
04:39.54bzowas looking at irc logs and noticed your comment on the new vogue root/initfs scheme
04:39.56Boydellyou followed the inscructions? I got mine working. Once you partitin, the fat32 part shows up in windows np
04:40.05bzore: partitions - sounds like you put your ext2 first
04:40.08makkonenI didn't
04:40.26bzohmm
04:40.32makkonenI did, however, remove the 4mb of 'blank' space before the fat32 partition.
04:40.46makkonenwhich it clearly didn't like.
04:41.01Boydelldid you use gparted?
04:41.02bzoremove how?
04:41.26Boydellstuck your hand in and pulled it out?
04:42.07makkonenyes, used gparted. increased the size of the 2 ext2 partitions at the end to 514mb, and in the process, it decided to move the fat32 partition to the front and set the free space in front to 0. I figured less wasted space was a good thing.
04:42.35Boydellthe way i did it was
04:42.48makkonenI assume now that the first partition is recreated, I just need to go back in with gparted and recreate the ext2 partitions. make sure I don't touch the first part at all.
04:42.53makkonenI just don't want to boot up the livecd again.
04:42.56Boydellwipe the whole thing and delete all partition
04:43.11tmztit can only put things on an appropriate (usually cylandr) boundary
04:43.19Boydellthen create a fat32 leving 256 mb free
04:43.28Boydellthen format the 256 as ext2
04:43.46makkonenis the latest commit from linux-msm bailing out compiling board-htcraphael.c?
04:43.47Boydelland that worked for me
04:44.10Boydellcommit number?
04:44.45makkonenlooks like it might be my merge that's the culprit.
04:45.02BoydellOK? lol
04:45.52makkonenwhich... I don't really understand what that means, but I'm sure I'll figure it out.
04:46.43Boydellboard-raphael is need though
04:47.02makkonen...yes, it is somewhat important.
04:47.28luke-jris HTC HD2 completely open?
04:47.38makkonenopen?
04:50.29makkonenoh. I've been forgetting to update the defconfig with all these tests. that might've all been for naught. ugh
04:51.04Boydellyou dont make it everytime?
04:51.49makkonenI should. but I've gotten in the habit of not doing so, because I so rarely change it.
04:52.32Boydellyah true. i just make a script that does all the junk for me
04:52.56Boydellmakes deconfig, kernal, and modules, then places them in a nice folder for me
04:53.04Boydellcuz i hate going to get the zimage
04:59.08makkonenand then you put that script in your kernel folder. which makes my skin crawl a little. :-p
04:59.39Boydelleh
04:59.43Boydellits not a big deal
04:59.53Boydellgit isnt tracking them
04:59.56Boydelland doesnt care about them
05:01.01Boydellhow goes all the testing?
05:01.33makkonenthe merging of board-htcraphael got messed up, I guess.
05:02.18Boydellone of the functions gets declared twice?
05:03.28makkonenyeah.
05:03.56makkonenmerged in where linux-msm declared touchscreen, and already had it where I had put it in. tsk tsk, git. you should know better.
05:05.38Boydellyah
05:05.44Boydellare you going from the top down in commits?
05:06.05makkonenand, having seen the whole run of it... git bisect is really clever. it interleaved testing of both halves of the merge.
05:06.36makkonenof course, doesn't seem like I needed to do any of it, because everything I tested worked. probably should've just tried the latest commit before doing all that work.
05:06.56Boydellhm.
05:07.03Boydellwhy wouldnt it work with me then?
05:07.22makkonenwell, I'm 38 commits ahead, and you're 40... so I wouldn't be surprised if you've got something dirty in your tree.
05:07.38Boydellbut what?
05:07.42BoydellI mean
05:07.47Boydellyour only 2 off now
05:07.56makkonenwhat are those 2?
05:07.56BoydellI'm sure something wouuld have surfaced
05:08.04Boydellwell what are you at?
05:08.29makkonenwho knows. I might load up this last merged build and have everything go to hell. I wouldn't be surprised at all.
05:08.53makkonenif I don't, I'll push them, and you can see what's different.
05:09.24Boydellok
05:09.37Boydellhow do i reset back to your head right new
05:09.39Boydell*now?
05:10.17makkonenI'm sure there's an elegant way... possible 'git reset --hard origin/htc-msm-2.6.27'
05:10.55Boydellthat seems to have worked
05:10.57Boydellsweet
05:11.56makkonensee. that all those commands are pretty much intuitive, once you start to learn how they work... is why I really dig git.
05:12.20BoydellI dont understand how it works really
05:12.22Boydelloh well
05:12.27BoydellI'll just let it do its magic
05:12.34Boydelland bug others when I dont get something
05:13.48makkonendamn. merged and it went to hell.
05:14.30Boydellbah
05:26.17makkonenhtc_battery_smem.c got automerged and I guess something went awry.
05:26.28Boydell??
05:26.39Boydellare you getting a kernal panick now too or something?
05:26.44makkonenyeah
05:26.49Boydellphew
05:26.54Boydellwasn't just me
05:27.17Boydelldelete the file
05:27.21Boydellerm
05:27.22Boydellno
05:27.30Boydellmake the changes manually?
05:27.32makkonenI had an old modification in htc_battery_smem that fixed usb. that's probably where the problem lies.
05:28.02BoydellMrPippy was saying that it broke his usb so he is using his old one
05:28.03Boydellbut
05:28.20Boydellall thats in there is to make the bebug messages optional
05:28.37Boydellso it wasnt making sense that it was crashing there, other than a bad merge
05:28.39MrPippyi fixed my usb issue, gonna push it soon
05:28.53Boydellha your still here?
05:28.59makkonenyeah. Gonna test with the version from the main repo, if it works ok, I'll just reapply the tweaks for status reporting.
05:29.04stinebdMrPippy takes no time off
05:29.10MrPippyhehe just got back, saw you resolved your issue
05:29.33Boydellhaven't "resolved" it yet
05:29.44Boydellbut makkonen now gets the same panic
05:30.14makkonenhopefully not in about 2 minutes.
05:30.28makkonen1 minute if I was passing both cores to my virtual.
05:30.57Boydellyou think you know where the problem lies?
05:31.07makkonenyeah
05:31.13Boydelldo tell?
05:31.35makkonenI don't really want to look for it. some old commit to make usb and battery play nice together.
05:32.06Boydellbut not so much anymore?
05:32.36makkonenwell, usb never plays nice with anyone or anything, I've determined. I'd rather get it booting now, and deal with that later. or let mrpippy deal with it, as the case may be.
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05:33.55gehzumteufelwel well
05:34.00gehzumteufelLook what the cat dragged in
05:34.02gehzumteufellol
05:34.11Boydellmakkonen: leave it to MrPippy what a nice guy hah
05:34.25MrPippyyeah i found the problem with the current one: the smem bit for 500 mA (CHARGER_USB) or 900 mA (CHARGER_AC) stays stuck on charger_ac on my phone, but usb only gets turned on for CHARGER_USB
05:34.58makkonenhmm. fix attempt #1 failed.
05:35.01gehzumteufeloooh does that mean charging is getting fixed?
05:35.15gehzumteufelMrPippy: which device do you have?
05:35.20MrPippydiam500
05:35.25gehzumteufelah damn nm
05:35.32gehzumteufelhas the rhod210
05:37.39makkonenI love that in windows 7, if you have files named test1, test2, ..., test9, test10 in a folder... it knows that test10 doesn't go between test1 and test2. I'm sure it required a lot of ugly hacking on the back end... but it makes me quite happy.
05:38.03gehzumteufelWin7 is awesome
05:38.20gehzumteufel./end
05:39.24bzoMrPippy, looked at the nexus one source. pmem=32m, adsp=41mb. weird, and guess it has memory to burn
05:39.56MrPippyhaha yeah it has like a full bank thats being used just for pmem
05:40.29MrPippyother people have said google couldn't get it working with noncontiguous banks, although i haven't found anything official saying that
05:40.53makkonenfix attempt #2 failed. ok, someone help me out here. 2 branches, each with a working (but slightly different) htc_battery_smem.c... merge them, and both of them kernel panic on a battery function. how do I debug that?
05:41.03bzoyou mean, it's only using 1 256mb bank?
05:41.42MrPippyyeah i think so
05:42.10makkonenclearly the issue is not in htc_battery_smem.c... it's in something else in my tree that's conflicting with it... but I don't know how to compare my whole repo to another and find what's different, and where I might find the problem.
05:42.48MrPippy"In another post, a Google technician said that an upcoming OTA will recoup about 100-150mb of RAM for the N1 because of kernel issue. Even so, that's still a very small portion of the overall RAM available. So, you'll like see a 290-340mb of RAM available."
05:42.56MrPippyand a big ota update rolled out today...wonder if its in there
05:43.22bzohehe, source says nr_banks=1, bank size = 219mb
05:43.49MrPippymakkonen: you can compare branches with git diff
05:44.18bzoat least at the moment, we have almost as much avail ram as the nexus one
05:44.28MrPippylike i have your tree added as another remote, i can do 'git diff makkonen/htc-msm-2.6.27' and it shows everything
05:44.34makkonenah
05:44.58makkonenI think I have linux-msm added as a remote incorrectly. but that's cool.
05:45.11bzoman, I would be pissed if I bought a n1 and though I was getting 512mb and saw only 219mb
05:45.25gehzumteufelI would be really pissed too
05:45.39Boydellsame
05:45.41gehzumteufelNexus One or HD2. That is my conundrum.
05:46.25MrPippyhehe or like the hd2, everyone bought it thought they were getting like 448MB and now the new rom brings it to ~560
05:47.31gehzumteufelYeah but the US HD2 is better than the Euro HD2
05:47.47Boydellmakkonen: any luck?
05:48.05makkonennot yet
05:53.26Boydellhrm. :( leads or ideas?
05:53.57Boydellwhat commit finially broke it?
05:56.25makkonennone of them.
05:56.49Boydell??
05:56.53Boydellone of them had to?
05:57.03BoydellSOMETHING broke it
05:57.30makkonenthe merge broke it.
05:58.14Boydelleverytime you pull down a new commit to test, does it not merge with your currect tree though?
06:00.21makkonenit does. but I pulled them all at once. I suppose I could go back and pull each one and merge it individually. but my computer's not fast enough to deal with that many kernel builds.
06:00.37Boydelloh
06:00.45Boydellthats what I thought you were doing :|
06:00.51BoydellI guess I can do it tomorrow
06:00.55BoydellI'm not sure how
06:01.01Boydellbut eh ill figure something out
06:01.07stinebdcan you bisect it?
06:01.19Boydellthats what i though makkonen did
06:01.20makkonenI bisected it.
06:01.56Boydellbut didnt merge after each bisect?
06:02.22makkonenwhich eventually got to the point where the two latest heads to be merged both worked. so... not a great piece of information
06:02.45stinebdah
06:03.36Boydellit lookslike tomorrow I'll go back
06:03.43Boydelland start from the bottom
06:03.49Boydelland work my way up
06:03.52Boydellsee what breaks it
06:05.48makkonenthis is a fairly concise explanation of the problem. thanks, kernel.org. http://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git-core/docs/user-manual.html#bisect-merges
06:08.42Boydelltoo tired to even try to understand that
06:08.47BoydellI'm going crash now
06:08.53Boydellgl makkonen
06:08.55Boydellnight
06:09.06stinebdlol
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06:27.49playdogood morning guys
06:28.02gehzumteufelevening
06:28.27playdohey teufel ^^
06:28.55gehzumteufelwie gehts
06:29.27playdosomething new happened while i was asleep?
06:29.35playdomir gehts gut, und dir? :-)
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06:31.56gehzumteufelwhy und dir instead of und du?
06:36.09maejrepdir is the dative form
06:36.21maejrepdu/dich/dir
06:36.40gehzumteufelAh
06:36.47maejrepjust reasking the same question
06:36.54gehzumteufelRight
06:37.02maejrep"und dir" => "und wie geht es dir?", how goes it to you
06:37.25maejrep(the "to you" is what makes it dative)
06:37.27gehzumteufelYeah I remember learning that, but hell it has been close to 10 years now since I used it
06:37.40maejrepheh hasn't been much less than that for me ;x
06:37.49gehzumteufelhehe
06:37.56gehzumteufelAnd how old are you?
06:37.58maejrepprobably 01
06:38.01maejrep26
06:38.04gehzumteufelLOL wtf
06:38.05gehzumteufelSame
06:38.13gehzumteufel01 was the last I can remember
06:38.29maejrepthat was my junior year ..  i don't think I took any german senior year
06:38.39gehzumteufelexactly the same for me
06:38.45MrPippyhah same as me too
06:38.58maejrepcreepy @_@
06:39.03gehzumteufelAlthough for me it was other reasons. I was a smart but lazy git that hated school and failed all my classes except German
06:39.21gehzumteufelhalf way through jr year, I left to independent study to make up tons of classes
06:39.50gehzumteufelI came close, but still had 1 years worth of work to do in March of 2002. I ended up dropping out and getting my ged
06:40.01maejrepyeah, I sometimes miss using my german, and then I remember I spend most of my nights on IRC, and at a time when it's mostly europeans awake
06:40.06playdoits also very likely that i put some dialect into my writing
06:40.09playdoso dont bother ^^
06:40.40maejreplooked right to me ;o
06:40.55gehzumteufelplaydo: Well, that may be the case, but it was correct. I forgot about dative stuff
06:41.16playdogerman has some really hard grammar :-D
06:41.18maejrepit's easy to do, when you speak a language that doesn't actually use it
06:41.31maejrepwe barely have a concept of genetive
06:41.32playdostarting with der/die/das instead of "the" and so on
06:42.00gehzumteufelGerman is REALLY easy in my opinoon
06:42.02gehzumteufelopinion
06:42.08maejrepI actually agree
06:42.10playdosame with english for me ^^
06:42.17playdobetter than french
06:42.21gehzumteufelEnglish is such a shit language
06:42.32maejreplearning a language that actually uses all the forms of speech makes understanding english a lot better
06:42.44maejrepa majority of english speakers don't really know grammar anymore
06:42.45gehzumteufelSo many rules that are violated in the same sentence. And they are all "exceptions" to the rule. Yet there are like millions of those same exceptions
06:43.02gehzumteufelGrammar isn't taught past 5th grade anymore
06:43.32maejrepyeah, try explaining to someone when to use "I" and when to use "me"
06:43.37gehzumteufelGerman (and Russian in my experience) seem to follow, and hardly violate most of their rules
06:43.49gehzumteufelugh that is really hard. I have first hand experience trying to.
06:43.50maejrepin a language that actually requires the use of different tenses, it's so much easier to understand
06:44.11maejrepgerman has a few exceptions
06:44.19gehzumteufelRight
06:44.27gehzumteufelBut they are few and far between compared to English
06:45.03playdoi give a small example of violating rules:
06:45.03maejreplike dative prepositions when otherwise it should be a different part of speech, and certain verbs that don't conjugate the same as others
06:45.19playdoin the saarland u mostly say: ich habe kalt
06:45.27playdobut correctly its spelled: mir ist kalt
06:45.38maejrepyeah, ich habe kalt seems weird
06:45.55playdobut everybody around here uses it
06:45.57gehzumteufelBut that is a local thing, whereas English in and of itself, in all it's "proper" forms, violates TONS of rules
06:46.06maejrepbut then, ich habe seid drei Jahren deutsch gelernt is weird to an english speaker too
06:46.07playdoso u would be very confused coming here ^^
06:46.30playdowhy?
06:46.41randomblamewhat initiates htc_fb_console.c
06:46.46maejrep"i have learned German since 3 years"
06:46.49playdocause of "i have learned?
06:46.55gehzumteufelmaejrep: ONLY because there is a specific sentence structure in most other languages as opposed to English. Where there is no real specific structure.
06:46.58playdoah because the since...
06:47.04maejrepyes, more the "since"
06:47.36gehzumteufelWell, in English, you wouldn't use since at all
06:47.39gehzumteufelYou would use for
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06:47.43maejrep"i have learned" would be okay, but "since 3 years" is weird, and it would be translated as "I have taken German for 3 years"
06:47.46playdoyes that german grammar, that u use the thing u did before the verb
06:48.11maejrepgehzumteufel: i find it the opposite
06:48.15gehzumteufelThat is standard grammar in more than just German. It is the same in Russian too. And I would presume French and others
06:48.26playdoyep french too
06:48.31maejrepin German, it's acceptable to place the words in a variety of orders, as longa s everything is conjugated properly
06:48.53gehzumteufelI never learned that in the 3 years I took it.
06:49.12gehzumteufelAnd mind you, my teacher spoke it fluently and grew up with it.
06:49.21gehzumteufelSo she could be considered a native speaker
06:50.27gehzumteufelMan, now I really miss speaking German
06:50.58maejrephaha
06:51.17gehzumteufelIt is a fantastic language. I think anyway.
06:51.39maejrepfor about 3-4 years after high school I would still try to help people in german if they couldn't speak english
06:51.42gehzumteufelI am a bit partial to my heritage, but I speak very little of that too. (that being Russian)
06:51.50playdocome and visit germany, if u can stand the rain ^^
06:51.57gehzumteufelhaha
06:52.00gehzumteufelI want to visit
06:52.01maejrepi don't like rain, but I do wan't to go to germany
06:52.05gehzumteufelI will visit one day
06:52.05maejrepwant*
06:52.33playdoi want to visit usa too, just to have seen it
06:52.34gehzumteufelmaejrep why you connected via the Frankfurt, DE server?
06:52.49gehzumteufelSince you are in Penn st
06:52.51maejrepi have no idea, i just connect to irc.freenode
06:52.55gehzumteufelah
06:53.07gehzumteufellol I am connected via Stockholm
06:54.00playdoi'm connected via düsseldorf ^^
06:54.03gehzumteufelYeah
06:54.10gehzumteufelAt least it is in your country
06:54.14playdowhere is my ip situated
06:54.21gehzumteufelI am connected to a server 5000 miles away
06:54.31gehzumteufelYour IP says you are connected from Michigan
06:54.35gehzumteufelBut you are using the webchat
06:54.41playdoyep
06:54.50gehzumteufelReal Name: ncecc2.ford.com/136.1.1.154 - http://webchat.freen
06:54.52playdoit goes saarlouis - michigan - düsseldorf
06:55.04gehzumteufellol yeah
06:55.45playdojust imagine that every company intern email first goes to america and back
06:55.55maejreplol
06:56.00playdoi think we got the emails with the most miles :-D
06:56.05maejrepso be careful, you could be violating international law ;p
06:56.36playdodamn
06:56.39playdo^^
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06:58.40gehzumteufelhaha
07:03.30playdodammit, an online shop send me an confirmation mail about 2 orders i have places yesterday
07:03.39playdobut i didn't buy anything Oo
07:04.15gehzumteufelehh make sure your card was not stolen (I dunno if you guys have debit cards with visa/mastercard logos there)
07:04.47playdonono i was on their site and looked around and tried if my bonus coupon works
07:04.58playdobut actually didn't say buy
07:05.01playdothoso isiots
07:05.06playdo-s +d
07:05.42gehzumteufellol what idiots
07:06.31playdoneither gave credit card information or so ^^ maybe i should just wait if get something for free
07:11.13playdois fetching something to eat
07:12.39gehzumteufelI would!
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07:19.10playdo|breakfastnom nom
07:19.14playdo|breakfastnah quite useless to wait as i would get snowboard protection shorts and pants in L
07:19.20playdo|breakfastwhich wouldnt fit
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07:20.15gehzumteufelhaha
07:20.21gehzumteufelYou could sell them though!
07:21.04playdo|breakfasttempting ^^
07:21.07gehzumteufelDo you guys have atm cards with a visa/mastercard logo?
07:22.01playdo|breakfastyep
07:22.03playdo|breakfastwhy?
07:22.38gehzumteufelBecause in Canada where a bunch of my friends live, they do not. And here in the US, you never see someone that has just an atm card anymore. They rarely issue them.
07:23.24playdo|breakfastoh sorry, what means atm? just read visa, and i got a visa card if thats what u mean
07:23.58gehzumteufelATM = automatic teller machine. A cash machine basically that connects to your bank electronically over a modem or broadband connection
07:24.41playdo|breakfastOo
07:24.48playdo|breakfastwho needs?
07:24.48gehzumteufelYou have those I am sure
07:25.01playdo|breakfasthmm
07:25.05gehzumteufelhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/ATM_750x1300.jpg
07:25.22playdo|breakfastrofl
07:25.27gehzumteufelYou get cash from your bank account without going to your bank
07:25.51playdo|breakfastyeah sure we got these, why not ^^
07:26.26playdo|breakfastbut we use it with ec cards (electronic cash). visa card is just for vacation or gasoline in my case
07:26.48playdo|breakfasthttp://spark7.de/Images/Karten/vorn_gross.jpeg
07:26.51gehzumteufelYour visa card is a credit card is it not?
07:27.08playdo|breakfastyep, my visa card is a credit card
07:27.14playdo|breakfastis got visa and ec
07:27.14gehzumteufelYeah see my visa card is not
07:27.21playdo|breakfast???
07:27.27gehzumteufelIt is linked to my bank account. All money comes out of my bank account.
07:27.32playdo|breakfastsounds weird
07:27.39playdo|breakfastah i see
07:27.42playdo|breakfastlike my ec card
07:27.43gehzumteufelSo I can use it just like a credit card, but I just have to have the money in my account
07:27.46gehzumteufelPretty much
07:28.02gehzumteufelBut visa/mastercard is accepted worldwide
07:28.17gehzumteufelHere we can't use EC cards since we aren't setup for them
07:28.19playdo|breakfastmy visa card is inderictly linked with my account. every month, my expenses get booked
07:28.45gehzumteufellol yeah no that is different. This one, the money is your bank account. Not borrowed money
07:29.02playdo|breakfastgetting money from an atm costs a fee with visa. ec cards a free at dedicated "sparkasse" machines
07:29.51gehzumteufelYour EC card is our ATM/Debit card
07:29.58playdo|breakfastyep
07:30.28gehzumteufelBut our ATM/Debit cards, also have the Visa/Mastercard logos. So we can use it anywhere they accept those. So same like your EC/Maestro cards
07:30.32playdo|breakfastand my visa is for worldwide use, especially for hotels, booking and so on
07:31.04playdo|breakfastmy ec card looks 100% like this http://spark7.de/Images/Karten/vorn_gross.jpeg
07:31.05gehzumteufelI don't even know if Maestro is accepted anywhere in the US
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07:31.32playdo|breakfastbesides that i'm not ute mustermann from musterstadt ^^
07:31.54playdo|breakfastdont think so if there is maestro in the us
07:32.01playdo|breakfastthat there is i mean
07:32.55gehzumteufelYeah that is the beauty of ours. Visa is used mostly anywhere in the world
07:33.21gehzumteufelI wish ours had the smart cards though
07:33.37gehzumteufelWe have RFID in our cards now (I need to get a new one without it) and it has pretty much no security
07:34.11makkonenso now a thief doesn't even need to get into your wallet to steal all the money out of it?
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07:35.10gehzumteufelugh yes
07:35.17gehzumteufelAnd most people in the US don't know this
07:35.53gehzumteufelI was in the bank once, and the stupid manager tried to say "oh there is a limit on those transactions" Like fuck that isn't going to limit when you have the CC number, billing address, expiry, etc
07:36.00playdo|breakfastuh that suck
07:36.33playdo|breakfastwhat encryption does they use? besides the stupid rfid i mean
07:36.35playdo|breakfastRSA?
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07:37.15gehzumteufelNone
07:37.20gehzumteufelOr super weak stuff
07:37.26gehzumteufellike 12bit or something
07:37.36gehzumteufelStuff that can be cracked in 10 minutes with the cpus fo today
07:37.38gehzumteufelof*
07:39.24playdo|breakfastwe got rsa encryption, but thats not the point. merely online banking gives hackers access to our accounts
07:39.55playdo|breakfastand the argumentation is: its more likely that u get ur card an pin stolen than ous system gets hacked -.-
07:41.39gehzumteufelThat is somewhat true, but with how lazy companies have been (at least in the US) with security, I would not believe htat
07:43.16playdo|breakfastwe learned in school how to crack those things xD
07:43.28playdo|breakfastso classes were cool, like i said
07:43.36makkonenit doesn't matter if it's true. It sounds good (from their perspective)... that's all that matters.
07:44.01playdo|breakfastright
07:44.08gehzumteufelYeah it does, but all they care about is money in their pockets
07:47.34adamwgehzumteufel: did you check the keymap?
07:50.58gehzumteufelI haven't lol
07:51.01gehzumteufelbeen lazy
07:51.23adamwkk
07:51.38gehzumteufelgoing to copy it now and check
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07:51.51adamwi'm going to bed, but if any xdandroid folks come in can someone pass on a message? the tilt2 stuff I sent in got added with bad permissions
07:52.00adamwso if you enable it, apps crash as soon as you press a key
07:52.09adamwthe perms on the .kcm.bin file need to be 644 not 711
07:52.11adamwthanks.
07:52.42gehzumteufelOh so there is an even more updated rootfs than the one I got last night before bed?
07:54.49adamwuh, i forget. that one's probably the same
07:54.54adamwbut re-download if you want to be sure
07:55.20adamwmatt and I will do a shiny new full env tomorrow with tilt2 and rhod210 keymaps and calibration info for new kernels and a new kernel with the extra memory stuff. probably.
07:55.45makkonenthere's also touchscreen calibration that isn't yet integrated into the rootfs, but a few people have it now, so I'm not so worried.
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07:55.51playdo|breakfastdo u know who is developing for touch hd?
07:55.59babijoeenexus one fixed :)
07:56.00adamwoh hey there's an xdandroid guy
07:56.11babijoeehi adamw
07:56.15makkonenthere's THE xdandroid guy.
07:56.20gehzumteufelYeah the is right
07:56.21adamwbabijoee: the tilt2 keyboard map i sent in got added with bad permissions
07:56.25gehzumteufelAn Aussie nonetheless
07:56.31adamwbabijoee: the .kcm.bin file got 711 , it should be 644
07:56.32babijoeeadamw: np
07:56.45adamwbabijoee: with 711 it makes whatever app you're running crash as soon as you hit a key :D
07:56.53babijoeejust send me the file i should be able to fix it up
07:57.03babijoeesometime later
07:57.15babijoeei'm just checking up and letting people know my nexus lives on
07:57.17adamwbabijoee: well you don't need a new file, it's just the unix permissions on the file itself within rootfs.img
07:57.38adamwso you just need to mount the rootfs and do a chmod on it and it'd be good.
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07:57.46babijoeeooo
07:57.50babijoeeyou have new rootfs?
07:57.57adamwuhh, lemme rephrase :)
07:58.04adamwi submitted some tilt2 keymaps to leob
07:58.06adamwhe added 'em
07:58.27babijoeeooo
07:58.29babijoeewell i
07:58.38adamwyou guys rolled a new xdandroid
07:58.40babijoeewill look at it and release a new package soon
07:58.59adamwthe one at http://htcandroid.xland.cz/XDANDROID.02.02.10.7z
07:59.00babijoeeatm i'm about to go out for lunch
07:59.03babijoeethanks
07:59.20makkonenglad you fixed your nexus one.... didn't know it was broken.
07:59.26adamwi downloaded it, tried to use it, it crashed my apps, so i poked in rootfs and noted the tilt2_microp-keypad.kcm.bin file had wrong perms
07:59.31adamwthat's the whole story :P
07:59.49babijoeeokay
07:59.54babijoeei'll look at it later :)
07:59.58adamwmount -o loop rootfs.img root ; chmod 0644 root/init.etc/keymaps/tilt2_microp-keypad.kcm.bin ; umount root
08:00.01adamwthat's all it needs to fix it.
08:00.09babijoeehi makkonen: any recent development?
08:00.49makkonengot touchscreen calibration all worked out finally.
08:01.06babijoeenice
08:01.10babijoeenew rootfs?
08:01.13babijoeeor kernel?
08:01.30makkonenwhich I'll need to get to you in the form of a new rootfs or some things to put in the rootfs at some point.
08:01.37playdobabijoee: what changed in the new xdandroid from 02.02.2010
08:01.38babijoeeokay
08:01.42babijoeesometime tonight
08:01.44babijoeei'll be back on
08:01.45babijoeelater
08:01.58adamwalright, night all
08:02.03gehzumteufelnight adam
08:02.07makkonentime zones are CONFUSING
08:02.10adamw=)
08:02.14adamwmidnight here
08:02.17makkoneng'night.
08:02.19babijoeeplaydo: nothing so far
08:02.20makkonen2am here.
08:02.20playdoyeah good night ^^
08:02.20adamwsomething late morning in australia i think
08:02.26playdobabijoee. k thx
08:02.36playdo9 am here :-)
08:02.37leobaillardI built the new package
08:02.40babijoeehaven't been around for the last 4 days
08:02.48babijoeehey leobaillard
08:02.52babijoeewhats changed
08:02.52playdohey leo
08:02.59leobaillardbabijoee: I will have to tell you what changed so you can modify your first post
08:03.04adamwleobaillard: see above, just needs the permissions on the .kcm.bin fixing. probably my fault, i probably had 'em wrong on my webserver os omething - sorry
08:03.06babijoeeleobaillard: nps
08:03.14makkonenhey leobaillard... you want me to send you a new rootfs with fixed touchscreen calibration?
08:03.38leobaillardmakkonen: fixed ? what's wrong in mine ?
08:03.41makkonen(or just changes to make. either way.)
08:04.05leobaillardyep makkonen send me the modifications
08:04.12babijoeecool
08:04.19babijoeei'll update first post later tonight :)
08:04.23adamwleobaillard: i'll send you a slightly updated tilt2 map and a map for other touch pro 2s tomorrow as well.
08:04.24makkonenthere was a bug in the tssc-calibrate executable. and the init script didn't take account of different device number on topaz/rhodium.
08:04.33makkonenleobaillard: where should I send?
08:04.33babijoeeleobaillard: pm in xda as i'm logging out soon
08:04.58babijoeeany ftp?
08:05.12leobaillardbabijoee: I think it can wait till tonight if I have to modify some things
08:05.20makkonenI haven't got any web- or ftp-facing storage. it's been a problem.
08:05.34leobaillardmakkonen: either in pv or by mail, as you want
08:05.38gehzumteufelmakkonen www.getdropbox.com
08:06.18gehzumteufel2gb, online storage, acts like a folder within windows. You delete whats in there, it syncs with the server
08:06.26gehzumteufelEasy as pie
08:06.47gehzumteufelYou can link people directly to that file
08:17.40makkonennice. I'll try that.
08:18.06makkonenI have something like that through my online backup provider, but it requires a lot of jumping through hoops.
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08:21.34gehzumteufelYeah that is not the case with this. You literally copy it to a folder from within windows, the helper app synchs, and you right click the file, click "dropbox" cascading menu, and click "copy public link"
08:21.51gehzumteufelPaste the link to everyone you want with ease
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08:31.59leobaillardadamw: I corrected the perms, my bad sorry... I will update the build with makkonen modification and the right permissions for you .kcm.bin
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09:02.56leobaillardmodified build is uploaded ;) enjoy and don't forget to report ! (please hilight my name or pm me)
09:03.46makkonenis it still under xdandroid.02.02.10.7z?
09:03.55gehzumteufelI just started downloading a build. With an upload date of 02032010. Is that the new one?
09:04.11gehzumteufelThat is the one I am downloading now
09:05.37gehzumteufelI should be in bed now, but meh
09:10.23playdo|afkwhere is a link to the build?
09:10.31playdo|afkis it the one makkonen mentioned?
09:19.02playdo|afknobody here anymore?
09:19.10gehzumteufelI am here
09:19.41gehzumteufelhttp://htcandroid.xland.cz/XDANDROID.02.02.10.7z
09:20.57leobaillardsorry, I was afk, it is the same link yes :)
09:21.02leobaillardI just updated the file
09:21.13leobaillardwell, need to go in class,
09:21.15leobaillardbbl
09:21.34ReeferMattnessthanks leo
09:21.56playdo|afkthx
09:22.18playdo|afksaw the modification date: 03.02.2010 10:02
09:22.26playdo|afkdownloading
09:25.49playdo|afkgehzumteufel: dont u wanna sleep?
09:27.23gehzumteufellol I should be
09:27.29gehzumteufelBeing a nerd a fun though
09:27.43gehzumteufelI am actually booting my this Android build with the latest kernel
09:28.50playdo|afkwhat time is it?
09:29.00playdo|afki'm just downloading....
09:29.00gehzumteufel0128
09:29.12playdo|afkgotta raise early tommorrow
09:29.15playdo|afk?
09:30.01gehzumteufelI wake up at 9am and go to work whenever I choose
09:30.33gehzumteufelI usually work from about 10 or 11 to about 1900 or 2000
09:30.56playdo|afkthats awesome :-) whats your job?
09:31.30gehzumteufeluhh
09:31.31gehzumteufellol
09:31.39gehzumteufel"email marketing"
09:31.42gehzumteufel;)
09:31.51gehzumteufelw00t the screen calibration is correct now
09:31.56makkonenSPAMMER <hiss>
09:31.58gehzumteufelThe calibration tool runs properly
09:32.05gehzumteufelmakkonen LOL pretty much
09:32.39playdo|afksince when is "professional spambot" a job?
09:32.40makkonenyay, calibration works. and yay, my kernel is working again. now to find out how to enable extra memory, and I can go to sleep.
09:33.03gehzumteufelThe kernel that is up right now (935) is good
09:33.05gehzumteufelWorks well
09:33.06playdo|afkwants some awesome changes for touch hd too
09:33.20gehzumteufelLock screen is a big fail though
09:33.22ReeferMattnessno sleep makkonen  :)
09:33.40gehzumteufelhitting home just exits the lock screen
09:33.54makkonendeletes FSCK0000.REC - FSCK0014.REC. Sign of a solid evening's work.
09:34.16ReeferMattnesswell done
09:34.54gehzumteufelRam still says 101mb total
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09:37.39fleixiusanyone alive this time of night
09:37.54makkonenmore or less
09:38.07gehzumteufelsomewhat
09:38.08gehzumteufellol
09:38.41fleixiusmeh im just trying to find a place to get some decent knowledge for what im doing wrong...
09:38.59fleixiusThis might not be the best place - but android is linix and I have an htc ;-P
09:39.06playdo|afkits 10:38 am, so i'm awake ^^
09:39.21playdo|afkis unpacking the new build
09:39.34fleixiusplaydo|afk, meh I wish I could even begin unpackin / installing.
09:39.51playdo|afkwhats ur prob then? :)
09:39.52fleixiusI cant even connect my device to adb.
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09:40.01gehzumteufelWhat device?
09:40.09playdoinfo first
09:40.09fleixiusraph100 (htc fuze)
09:40.27fleixiusUsing xdandroid - eclair 2.0.1
09:40.34fleixiusWM6.5 of course
09:40.47playdogehzumteufel: does my startup.txt influence the memory available under android?
09:41.03playdoor is it just for haret
09:41.57gehzumteufelIt is the kernel that will control that
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09:42.19fleixiusgehzumteufel, Im using ubuntu 9.10 - with the appropriate udev rule.  I have developer debuggin enabled.  I connect it to usb, I can view the device under lsusb.
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09:42.36fleixiusBut for some unknown reason, adb device displays nothing.
09:42.54gehzumteufelI remember last night they were talking about this issue
09:43.00fleixiusI have tried adb on 3 computers - winxp sp3, win7, ubuntu 9.10 - bah
09:43.01gehzumteufelBut it is beyond my exptertise
09:43.10fleixiusIt's kicking my ass.
09:43.31gehzumteufelI don't think it is anything you can change. It seemed like they were thinking it was Android not being coded for it right
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09:43.40gehzumteufelFor the builds we have that is
09:43.40playdogehzumteufel: who got knowledge about that?
09:44.22gehzumteufelplaydo: For the memory thing? On the rhod it has been added to the code, but no kernel has been built with it.
09:46.11playdoyeah for memory. touch hd has no changes on that topic?
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09:46.30fleixiusHmm - what other way can I gain root access on my device then?
09:47.11gehzumteufelgood question. Turn on ssh and ssh into it
09:47.18makkonenthere is no ssh
09:47.19gehzumteufelThat is the only other way I can think of
09:47.24makkonenyet
09:47.26gehzumteufelah
09:47.29fleixiusYep - no ssh. :(
09:47.40fleixiusOr even telnet.
09:47.53fleixiusmakkonen, you were talking last night about your problems with adb right?
09:48.02makkonenfleixius: mount the rootfs, edit /init in it, search for busybox telnetd -b 192.168.20.1 -l /bin/sh
09:48.18makkonenremove the '-b 192.168.20.1'
09:48.49makkonenthen the telnet server will respond on all available IP addresses. you can telnet into a shell on the phone over wifi, or over usb ethernet, if you are able to get that working.
09:49.09makkonenI was talking about adb issues last night... and many other nights. adb hates me.
09:49.14makkonenand the feeling is mutual.
09:49.18fleixiusmakkonen, ahh alright.  Cant I run busyboxy telnetd wihtout having to mount the rootfs device?
09:49.36fleixiusmakkonen, yeah adb is kicking my ass with the current release I'm using.
09:49.39makkonenI would think so, but when I have tried, it has not worked right.
09:50.15fleixiusmeh let me mount it while im in winmo
09:50.30playdobooting
09:50.32makkonenand changing it in rootfs is nice because it comes up early in the boot process, so you can log the early boot process and such.
09:52.15fleixiusyeah I'll mount it
09:53.42playdogehzumteufel: where does android displays ram?
09:54.13playdoah got it
09:54.19playdo101MB
09:54.20fleixiusalright lets give this a try - booted android now
09:55.14ReeferMattnessthe command line for extra ram was not working for us earlier, had to go into the zimage and change it manually, now im at 178M for RAM on the Rhod
09:55.20fleixiusmakkonen, when modifying keymaps do I have to restart android?  Or is there a method to reload the configuration
09:56.04playdoReeferMattness: could that be changed for touch hd too?
09:56.05makkonenreefermattness: good timing. I just did the same on my raph800... rocking 182688b
09:56.49makkonenfleixius: I don't know. I'm not aware of any way to reload the config, but I'm not positive that there isn't one.
09:57.12makkonenoh my god, everything's so much faster.
09:57.14fleixiusmakkonen, gotcha
09:57.33fleixiusReeferMattness, How do you view the amont of ram given initially?
09:57.51makkonenopen a terminal and type 'free'
09:57.51fleixiusbah I guess that should go for playdo  ^
09:58.04gehzumteufeljust open android system info app
09:58.06gehzumteufelit is right there
09:58.06fleixiusmakkonen, <-- waiting for it to finish bootin.
09:58.11playdosomeone got an idea why barcode scanner isnt working with no camera present xDDD
09:58.14fleixiusforgot.  alright gotcha.
09:58.27ReeferMattnessisnt it nice makkonen?
09:58.34playdoso what about ram in touch hd?
09:58.35makkonenit really, really is.
09:58.36gehzumteufelI am rebooting from a kernel crash. Hopefully this modified kernel works on the rhod210
09:58.48makkonenplaydo: you have a build environment?
09:59.04ReeferMattnessMakkonen, the boot time is WAY shorter too after the first boot, its amazing
09:59.05playdonot at work ^^
09:59.58fleixiusMeh - where in zimage do you modify the ram allotment?  I've noticed my application sliding menu is slower then all hell.  I'm sure this would improve so much.
10:01.03makkonenmm. looks like everything's the same on blackstone. just hardcode the use_extra_bank line in arch/arm/mach-msm/pmem.c to 1 and you should have more memory.
10:01.38playdodoes this line enables the total amount of ram?
10:01.48makkonenseems so.
10:01.59playdocan u do it for me ?
10:02.05playdocause im at work
10:02.26fleixiusIve always wondered how does the ram become allocated if winmo is taking up 50% or more.
10:02.40gehzumteufelIt is kicked out of ram
10:02.42gehzumteufelThat is how
10:03.01playdo^^
10:03.04fleixiusgehzumteufel, Excellent - so I shouldnt worry about lowering my mem usage in winmo.
10:03.16playdono its the same
10:03.19gehzumteufelHaret loads a very small piece of code into memory that can jump to boot, it then kicks WM out of memory, and then uses the stuff wm used
10:03.28playdodone that before and its no difference
10:03.40playdoe. g. manilla gives about 20mb of ram
10:03.45fleixiusgehzumteufel, Thats what I expected just making sure.
10:04.10fleixiusplaydo, Yeah manilla is ridiculous
10:04.12gehzumteufel:)
10:04.29fleixiusNow to get the geny boot loader working properly.
10:04.37gehzumteufelI like manila but it needs a ton of work when it comes to memory usage
10:04.45playdosomeone could code this line makkonen mentioned?
10:04.52fleixiusOne thing Ive noticed is that in touch flo - if I specify my USB connection to be used for disk transfer, I cant place android in debug mode.
10:04.59makkonenplaydo: I'm not set up to build it here. All I've got set up is my own repo, with a bunch of changes for raph800, which won't work for you.
10:05.21playdoah thank you anyway
10:06.01playdoare u on in irc this afternoon makkonen? (middle european time)
10:06.11fleixiusmakkonen, Is your screen properly calibrated?
10:06.39ReeferMattnesshmmmm....  might have found a bug with the screen calibration.  Gonna see if it does it again.
10:06.43gehzumteufelMine properly allowed calibration on first boot
10:07.09fleixiusgehzumteufel, I don't think mine did, but I'm running the release on 01/25
10:07.26ReeferMattnessno yours didnt then fleix
10:07.30fleixiusI have yet to upgrade my kernel modules I guess I should do that.
10:07.46makkonenleobaillard: I just realized there is another issue with the touchscreen calibration -- it should not run at all if the device is a blackstone. maybe wrap all that code with a if [ "`cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep -o blackstone`" != "blackstone" ]; then
10:07.57gehzumteufelCalibration is fine now w00t
10:08.05makkonenReeferMattness: what's the bug?
10:08.07gehzumteufelfleixius run a newer build
10:08.08fleixiusMeh - I'll get mine to work tonight.
10:08.26gehzumteufelThe new build from today works fantastic
10:08.37playdomakkonen: there no prob with the calibration fix on blackstone. runs like a charm
10:08.37ReeferMattnesswell, calib worked 100%, until i rebooted, and now its off.  Gonna recalib and reboot and see if it does it again
10:08.59ReeferMattnesssame thing happened to gehz
10:09.07playdomakkonen: i mean it doesnt interfere with blackstone
10:09.24makkonenplaydo: great. with the xdandroid 02 02 package?
10:09.32playdotodays build
10:09.36makkonenok.
10:09.38gehzumteufelw00t 180mb of ram
10:09.41gehzumteufelFantastic
10:09.43playdoWANT
10:09.45makkonenleobaillard: nevermind that last thing, then.
10:09.53fleixiusI'm running a raph100 - hopefully I can get calibration fixed soon.  Are there any preparations I need to make after moving the new kernel over?
10:10.10gehzumteufelMuch more responsive
10:10.26makkonenfelixius: grab the new xdandroid package at the same time you grab the new kernel. you'll need to calibrate.
10:10.35ReeferMattnesskinda runs like its supposed to now and not like a g1 running 1.6  :p
10:10.35playdofeels separated with 101mb ram
10:11.16playdostartup.txt cannot change ramsize?
10:11.18makkonenreefermattness or gehzumteufel: can one of you send me the output of 'dmesg | grep touch_calibration' after you've rebooted and had the calibration go off?
10:11.47makkonenstartup.txt should be able to, but is in actuality not able to, enable the extra ram bank.
10:12.13playdodammit
10:12.29fleixiusmakkonen, wheres are the builds stored because I believe I am using the latest xdandroid build?
10:12.32ReeferMattnessplaydo the plan is eventually that the startup.txt will fix it, but right now something isnt working quite right and you have to change it manually
10:12.46playdocan u give me some help when i'm at home for setting up a build environment
10:12.54gehzumteufelmakkonen working on it now
10:13.29gehzumteufelugh can't do pipe
10:13.32makkonenfleixius: http://htcandroid.xland.cz/XDANDROID.02.02.10.7z
10:13.42ReeferMattnesspipe is mapped to something
10:13.50ReeferMattnessAdamW was sick of having to softkey it
10:13.53playdoreefermattnes: isnt it the plan, that these changes shall all be hardcoded in the end?
10:13.56ReeferMattnessits in the Rhod thread
10:14.00fleixiusmakkonen, Excellent - is there a thread about the builds?
10:14.13fleixiusReeferMattness, Ha - I wihs i had a tab key.
10:14.13playdohttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=601751
10:14.14makkonenhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=601751
10:14.19playdoFIRST
10:14.20playdo^^
10:14.20ReeferMattnessIndeed plado  :)
10:14.20makkonendamn. so close!
10:14.36gehzumteufelYeah but the fn key doesn't work
10:15.12fleixiusmakkonen, playdo ha thanks - I didnt see the 02.02 build there before.  Meh
10:15.20makkonenit's not there yet.
10:15.39makkonenbenefits of being on the bleeding edge here.
10:15.46playdoyep
10:15.59playdobabijoee will add it tomorrow. hes asleep ^^
10:16.08gehzumteufelYeah I know lol
10:16.14gehzumteufelbabijoee is at work
10:16.23gehzumteufelor class I forget which
10:16.26fleixiusmakkonen, :-P I'm getting there...shortly of course.
10:16.26ReeferMattnessIm jealous, I gave my GF my Fuze, and it has sound and full sleep  :p
10:16.59playdowork? thought he has gone to bed
10:17.14gehzumteufelLooking through the logs he said he was going to lunch
10:17.38fleixiusBah now I need to reload into winmo to access my sdcard.
10:17.42ReeferMattnessmakk you have any calib errors on your Rhaph?
10:17.58playdonope he doesnt sleep ^^ seems to be german provider
10:18.23gehzumteufelbabijoee?
10:18.28gehzumteufelHe is in Oz
10:18.29playdowhoppa
10:18.33playdoi saw
10:18.34makkonenreefermattness: no, but I haven't been using the rootfs from that package yet.
10:18.37makkoneninstalling now
10:18.40playdoso he sleeps o think
10:18.54fleixiusgehzumteufel, I'll let you know how it goes after my installation on my fuze.
10:19.00gehzumteufelmakkonen waiting for boot to see if calibration is fucked
10:19.25gehzumteufelAnd then I am off to bed. I should have been sleeping 2.5hrs ago lol
10:19.31makkonenme too.
10:19.33makkonenat least.
10:19.47playdois looking for the menu card
10:19.50fleixiusits 5am here - should have been in bed with the gf hourrrsss ago.
10:20.07makkonenbut I'm going to stay up a few minutes longer at least, to post this kernel up a few places.
10:20.36ReeferMattnessits 3:19 here, not too late, cant sleep with all this haxzoring going on  :p
10:20.59makkonenMountain Standard Time? People actually live there?
10:21.10ReeferMattnesssadly
10:21.14fleixiusDo we know yet if I can boot android from /android folde ryet
10:21.33makkonenheh, I'd say no, it's still a little busted.
10:21.51makkonenyou could probably fix it when you mount the rootfs.
10:22.43gehzumteufelgod damn navigating is fucking hard without the screen
10:22.56makkonenno adb?
10:23.05ReeferMattnessgehz, same thing?  bad calib after first boot?
10:23.16gehzumteufelYeah
10:23.30gehzumteufelAnd I am going to do that dmesg but I have to download the damn app
10:23.31gehzumteufellol
10:23.42ReeferMattnessso weird, because i used a ts-calibration file for hours before the tool was fixed and it didnt change after reboot.
10:23.43makkonenyou can actually read the numbers I'm looking for off the screen at boot time.
10:24.33fleixiusIs there a way to increase haret's font during boot.  Hard as hell to read from a normal distance.
10:24.48makkonennot sure
10:25.50makkonenok... my calibration is fine with my old ts-calibration file and the new rootfs. Let's see what happens when I make a new one.
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10:27.52makkonenoh. that was the old copy of the xdandroid build. hold on.
10:28.14fleixiusHopefully all goes well with the 02.02.10 release with the new rootfs.
10:28.46gehzumteufelI can't get it. And I am off to bed. Gotta wake up in 6hrs
10:30.08ReeferMattnesslater gehz
10:30.12fleixiusgehzumteufel, later
10:30.13gehzumteufellaters
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10:30.22fleixiusha - we waited for a good night.
10:33.55fleixiuss/we/he bah.
10:34.33ReeferMattnessmakk, u get the same thing on your raph?
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10:36.44fleixiusHas anyone noticed issues when rotating from landscape to portrait and back?  Sometimes its tremendously slow.
10:36.52fleixiusOr it doesnt even work at al
10:38.30ReeferMattnessRhod doesnt work at all yet :(
10:38.34ReeferMattnessso be happy  :p
10:38.35ReeferMattnesslol
10:38.52fleixiusReeferMattness, Oh man I'd die.
10:39.29ReeferMattnessonly with stylus in/out does it change to port/land
10:40.05fleixiusthat doesnt seem like it should be to hard to fix.
10:40.17makkonenreefermattness: any luck getting that log output?
10:40.56fleixiusSee you should be lucky, raph100 stylus' dont even get noticed.  But then again who uses a stylus
10:41.04fleixiusOther then calibrating
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10:41.49fleixiushopefully the battery meter is fixed in this release
10:42.00fleixiusOH MAN my location actually works.
10:43.27fleixiusnow to fix my keymaps.
10:43.41fleixiusI never understood why one would make the power button - the home screen as opposed to sleep.
10:45.00ReeferMattnessI think it has something to do with the android phones having the same end key/power key
10:45.18fleixiusReeferMattness, Man that makes no sense to me - they need more buttons apparently.
10:45.55ReeferMattnessyes I agree, i even have ATT with the extra PTT button to remap to my camera ;)
10:46.17fleixiusReeferMattness, BAH YOUR CAMERA WORKS?!
10:46.19fleixius:(
10:46.29ReeferMattnesserrr no not with android
10:46.46fleixiusGotcha - I thought I was unfortunate.
10:46.57fleixiusYeah I have ATT with the PTT button as well on my Fuze.
10:48.20fleixiusI need some good apps to check out
10:48.25fleixiusAny good weather widgets?
10:48.32ReeferMattnessweather bug
10:48.46ReeferMattnessbetter than weather channel app i think
10:49.02fleixiusIve used the wc app - didnt like it to much
10:49.27fleixiusSo much shit to fix on my phone bleh - damn gen.y dual boot isnt working.
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10:49.46fleixiusI wish the android dialer would actually search your contacts as your dial the numbers.
10:51.36ReeferMattnessyup, things you take for granted until you get away from WM  :)
10:52.04makkonenWM's searching used to be better.
10:53.56fleixiusAlright finally got everything set - calibrating with telnet enabled.
10:54.06fleixiusBah actually adb might work now - didnt try that.
10:54.17fleixiusOMG...
10:54.37fleixiusSo I'm on youtube and you know how they have some ads that show up randomly on your videos
10:54.51fleixiusI just saw a picture of my cousin under 'find local singles'
10:55.12ReeferMattnessLOL
10:55.18makkonenthat must ber distressing.
10:55.21makkonenbe*
10:55.22fleixiusrofl
10:55.38fleixiustakes screenshot.
10:55.51fleixiusI'll facebook - but im sure it wont be funny to her.
10:55.58ReeferMattnessHook me up Fleix  :p
10:56.05ReeferMattnesslolz jk jk
10:56.16fleixiusShe probably doesnt have he privacy settings on lock down.
10:56.22fleixiuslmao ReeferMattness - sure ;-P
10:56.31ReeferMattnessmaybe she really is desperate
10:57.16fleixiusReeferMattness, its not something she had put up I'm sure.  It's on those bullshit ads that scavenge photo's of users within an area.
10:57.29ReeferMattnessyoure gonna make fun of her for trying to find true love and she is going to get all emo
10:57.32fleixiusFacebook used to allow that to happen until they added their new privacy features.
10:57.40ReeferMattness:)
10:57.59fleixiuslmao
11:04.30fleixiusFor some reason I cant remount /system as rw
11:05.59makkonensquashfs is not rewritable like that.
11:08.19fleixiusIs there a way to shutdown haret without rebooting my device?
11:08.38fleixiusmakkonen, Ahh okay
11:13.54fleixiusdamnit - fscking file explorer opened in /windows.
11:14.42fleixiusmakkonen, Has anyone investigated the LED on the back of the raph100?  I'd be nice to use my handy dandy flashlight again
11:15.12makkonenalright. nice talking with everyone, but it is so far past my bedtime it's getting to be tmie to get up again, so I'm off.
11:15.27makkonennot sure about that LED. haven't heard anything.
11:15.49fleixiusmakkonen, Alright man - later.
11:29.13playdore
11:29.20playdohas a full stomach
11:32.03fleixiusjust had bliss chocolate.
11:32.04fleixiusmm
11:34.34playdowants more ram
11:34.48playdonobody here who can change the stupid thing
11:41.01fleixiusi would love more ram but you have to compile the kernel for that
11:41.02fleixiusright
11:43.24playdothink so
11:43.34playdoand i cant do that here
11:44.17fleixiusyou dont have ssh setup at your house?
11:45.59playdonot atm, but thats fast to establish
11:46.15playdobut not at work were i havent admin rights
11:46.50fleixiusoh man - i always have ssh out over 443.
11:46.56fleixiusRegardless - putty is an easy download.
11:47.13playdodont know if there are port restrictions here
11:47.28fleixius443 should be allowed out - https.
11:50.05playdoand what now? cant change the ram problem with or
11:50.08playdoor can i?
11:50.34fleixiuswell if you have a *nix box at home setup you could ssh in, download the source, compile, then download it to your work box.
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11:51.51playdonix box?
11:52.00fleixiusa linux / unix
11:53.34playdoah no ^^ dont got a running server at home
11:53.42playdoi'm saving energy ;)
11:55.54playdognutoo?
11:56.39fleixiusI always have my server up
11:56.42fleixius24/7
11:57.57fleixiusmm feels like my phone is running hot...grr
12:02.44playdomy server is too loud and eats energy
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12:47.55GNUtooplaydo, yes?
12:50.30playdohave u the time to implement some little change for touch hd?
12:52.33playdo[11:01] <makkonen> mm. looks like everything's the same on blackstone. just hardcode the use_extra_bank line in arch/arm/mach-msm/pmem.c to 1 and you should have more memory.
13:05.34GNUtooplaydo, how would I test it? I've only htcdream
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13:06.47grazianoleviathan: ping
13:07.11playdognutoo: i would test it. cause i want the change for my touch hd
13:07.16playdobut cant do it at work
13:07.37GNUtooplaydo, ok what change?
13:08.30GNUtooplaydo, if it's about pmem it's too low level for me...I didn't look into it yet
13:09.04playdognutoo: thats what makkonen said [11:01] <makkonen> mm. looks like everything's the same on blackstone. just hardcode the use_extra_bank line in arch/arm/mach-msm/pmem.c to 1 and you should have more memory.
13:09.27playdoits pmem i think, cause haret doesnt do the change with startup.txt
13:09.41GNUtooI'll look in my pmem and try
13:10.17playdomany thx
13:11.31GNUtooI've no pmem.c
13:11.56GNUtooplaydo, where's your kernel source tree?
13:12.32playdowait
13:12.56playdodammit, normally at http://connect-utb.com/
13:13.11playdobut it has a database error atm
13:13.14GNUtoook
13:13.16playdoor is it just me?
13:13.55GNUtooNew Kernel Image and Modules for the RAPH800
13:13.57GNUtoo?
13:14.21playdohttp://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/commits/htc-msm-2.6.27
13:14.45playdomy bad, this was for the full build http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_rokdownloads&view=folder&Itemid=68&id=51:htc-raphael-diamond-blackstone
13:15.01GNUtooah ok in download: Database Error: Unable to connect to the database:Could not connect to MySQL
13:15.58GNUtooI've git://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm.git
13:16.30playdoyes this should be the kernel http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/commits/htc-msm-2.6.27
13:16.36GNUtoook
13:16.45GNUtooI'm pulling now
13:16.45playdoor is there a newer one?
13:16.49playdothx
13:17.45GNUtooso you want me to guide you for making the change?
13:18.08playdono, it would be awesome if u could make the change now, if thats not too much work
13:18.09GNUtoobecause it seem so easy
13:18.21GNUtooI've no commit access to this tree
13:18.27playdomaybe in the afternoon (in 2 hours or so) you could guide me
13:18.38GNUtooit's realy easy
13:18.44GNUtooyou have to change that:
13:18.45GNUtooint use_extra_bank=0;
13:18.47GNUtooin that:
13:18.50GNUtooint use_extra_bank=1;
13:18.50playdoare u on around 1600?
13:18.57GNUtoomaybe
13:19.00GNUtooI have to go out
13:19.06GNUtooto buy some new smaller keyboard
13:19.12GNUtoobecause I broke my keyboards
13:19.24GNUtooand I can't stand using a too big one
13:19.24playdobeaten ur monitor with it?
13:19.27GNUtoono
13:19.29playdo^^
13:19.35playdowhere are u from? italy?
13:19.40GNUtoothe house phone rang
13:19.42GNUtooyes
13:19.56playdok then we dont got such time difference
13:20.12playdothen o hope i can do the change at home
13:20.18GNUtooand in a precipitation I went to the phone and my feet was in the keyboard's cable
13:20.30grazianoaz
13:20.52playdodang
13:20.56GNUtooand so it broke the keyboard...which gave me kernel panic and strange issues when connecting it
13:20.57playdopoor keyboard ^^
13:21.04GNUtooit was a good keyboard
13:21.22playdoi got a laptop, so no problem with that
13:22.37GNUtooand it was cool to have the button with the color that was gone because I typed too much with it
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13:22.56GNUtoo*the buttons with their color gone
13:23.11playdo:( thats that
13:23.22playdonot enoght skill to solder it?
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13:25.30playdobabijoee: hey
13:25.49grazianoGNUtoo: you could always buy the same keyboard and pu on it the used keys ;)
13:25.50playdogot time to change something in the kernel?
13:26.04playdograzione: xDD
13:26.11GNUtoolol
13:26.23babijoeeplaydo: i dont touch the kernel
13:26.41graziano:)
13:26.51babijoeeuserland only
13:26.53grazianoit's art after all :)
13:27.09playdoi was speaking about this memory change
13:27.44playdognutoo said its easy ^^
13:28.59babijoeebah my kernel is too outdated :p
13:29.17babijoeeif you know about it
13:29.20babijoeebuild it yourself
13:29.28babijoeeleobaillard: ping
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13:29.58playdoand the kernel at gitorious?
13:30.15GNUtooplaydo, I've no commit access,you have a text editor or the patch command so or you edit it with a text editor
13:30.19GNUtooor I provide a patch
13:30.33GNUtoobut I'm not in your computer so you would have to do something
13:30.49GNUtooplaydo, editing a text is easy
13:31.03GNUtooif I tell you what to do
13:31.17playdobut i think i need access too, or not?
13:34.28playdognutoo: and after the change? i have to build the kernel or not?
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13:35.09GNUtooyes you would have to build it
13:35.47playdothats the main problem ^^ cant do this here
13:36.50playdoand not at home without guidance
13:37.23GNUtoook
13:37.35GNUtooso me or someone else could guide you
13:37.50GNUtooor we could make the change and build it and give you a binary
13:38.10GNUtoobut we would need zcat /proc/config.gz on the phone
13:40.09playdoso that means? bootin my phone and copy this data from my phone?
13:48.28playdomeh
13:51.16IceBonehttp://blog.dyzplastic.com/2010/02/android-mini-collectibles.html
13:51.23IceBoneWEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! ^_^
13:52.21playdoWANTS
13:52.52IceBone12 designs, box of 16. I guess you get 5 standard greenies.
13:53.47playdowants the green one
13:54.21playdowill cost a fortune i think
13:54.42IceBoneShouldn't. They don't look that high quality. :P
13:55.19playdothat not the point :-D
13:59.40GNUtooplaydo, no
13:59.47GNUtooit means booting your phone
13:59.53GNUtooand running that command in your phone
13:59.53playdoexplain it pls ^^
14:00.02GNUtooor just copy /proc/config.gz from your phone
14:00.05GNUtooand give it to me
14:00.19GNUtooit's the compressed(.gz) kernel configuration
14:00.39GNUtoobecause I don't want to give to you something that doesn't work because badly configured
14:01.27playdoso if i run that command, it changes this thing permanently?
14:01.50GNUtoono
14:02.00GNUtooit will give me the infos necessary to compile you a kernel
14:02.21playdowait, just for explaining
14:02.27playdoi have to change that http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/blobs/htc-msm-2.6.27/arch/arm/mach-msm/pmem.c
14:02.37playdoand then put a new kernel together
14:02.47GNUtooThere are 2 ways:
14:03.04GNUtoo*you do the change yourself and compile yourself a kernel...
14:03.14babijoeeany idea how much those little android's cost?
14:03.16GNUtoo*someone else do the change for you and compile a kernel
14:03.23babijoeewould'nt mind one
14:03.23babijoee:p
14:03.46GNUtoobabijoee, I've only htcdream and I don't remember how much exactly but I bet between 300 and 400E
14:03.49playdowant one too :)
14:04.20playdognutoo: so either way, i nedd to compile a new kernel?
14:04.49GNUtoosomeone needs to
14:04.54GNUtoo1sec
14:05.03babijoeeGNUtoo: that much?
14:05.11babijoeei wonder if you can get them seperately
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14:05.53playdoyes, there is the possibility to buy the box or seperately
14:05.55playdoor not?
14:06.18babijoeeplaydo: device?
14:07.35playdotouch hd
14:08.10playdois eating a berliner
14:08.30playdo*nom* *nom*
14:08.56babijoeeplaydo: blackstone?
14:09.16playdoyeah
14:11.51playdoand now?
14:12.46babijoeewats your patch do?
14:13.37playdorelease more memory
14:13.38babijoeeare you 100% sure?
14:13.44playdochanging "int use_extra_bank" to 1 in http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/blobs/htc-msm-2.6.27/arch/arm/mach-msm/pmem.c
14:14.06playdodont know which idea it was
14:14.21playdoshould be the same like diam or raph
14:14.36babijoeehrmmm
14:14.48babijoeei think its set to 0 as setting it to 1 causes major instability
14:15.17playdo[11:01] <makkonen> mm. looks like everything's the same on blackstone. just hardcode the use_extra_bank line in arch/arm/mach-msm/pmem.c to 1 and you should have more memory.
14:15.33babijoeeMrPippy should be able to help out alot more as he was trying to get it working
14:15.45playdowith blackstone?
14:15.57babijoeefor all devices i think
14:15.58playdowas there some testing with it on blackstone?
14:16.05babijoeedont think so
14:16.10babijoeebut it was unstable on raph/diam
14:16.16playdomakkonen seemed very positive about that change
14:16.19babijoeei can't say for sure
14:16.29babijoeebut wait for either MrPippy or phhusson
14:16.43playdoi give it a try if one of u helps me implementing
14:16.45babijoeeGNUtoo: you have any idea on this?
14:17.13babijoeedo have the kernel setup?
14:17.47playdothe one from ur thread?
14:18.04GNUtoobabijoee, I don't know all the details about the changes....and I must go find a new small keyboard
14:18.32babijoeewhy?
14:18.50playdowrecked his one
14:18.57babijoeeplaydo: the tools and sources for kernel
14:19.03babijoeeah =/
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14:19.21playdojust know the git kernel and dont got the tools yet
14:19.28babijoeehmmm
14:19.28playdoso i was hoping for some guidance
14:19.40babijoeeyou'll need the sources and tools to build it
14:19.43babijoeehold on
14:19.59playdowriting an email now
14:21.00babijoeeplaydo: http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=285:get-started-with-development-on-android-for-the-touch-pro-and-diamond&catid=42:the-android-port
14:21.27playdo|afkmany thx
14:22.09babijoeehmmm it seems MrPippy has pushed a memory support
14:22.15babijoeei haven't tested it out
14:22.16babijoeehmmm
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14:23.00babijoeehmm i guess it should work then
14:23.08babijoeebut then you'll need it
14:23.34babijoeei think just wait for phh playdo as he'll implement it for all devices :)
14:23.55playdo|afkwhen is he probably online?
14:24.01playdo|afkor what time zone does he got ^^
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14:25.35babijoeehahah i dunno
14:25.46babijoeephh usually is on in about 3 hours from now
14:29.18playdo|afkok lets see it then
14:29.24playdo|afki'm driving home now
14:29.30playdo|afkcu l8r maybe
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14:31.39leobaillardbabijoee: pong
14:32.08babijoeehi whats changed in 2.02 pack?
14:32.21babijoeei'll update first post
14:33.03leobaillardtouch screen calibration tool, tilt2 keymap, sensors for rhod/topa, and....er....that's all iirc
14:33.16leobaillardah no !
14:33.29leobaillardforgot the LEdEffect included in apps for diam/raph
14:33.34leobaillardand that's it
14:33.59leobaillard(I put it in AndroidApps/Other/)
14:34.21babijoeeawesome
14:35.45leobaillard:)
14:40.49babijoeeledeffects do what?
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15:21.48leobaillardbabijoee: the same as in winmo, it's not complete yet, but currently sms led effect and call led effect are working
15:22.00leobaillardit runs as a service and can be run at launch
15:22.06leobaillardit's kinda cool actually
15:22.34babijoeeooo nice
15:23.05babijoeeis it built in?
15:23.14babijoeeor in androidapps folder?
15:23.46leobaillardjust read ;)
15:23.48leobaillard[15:33] <leobaillard> (I put it in AndroidApps/Other/)
15:23.59babijoeeooo
15:24.08babijoeei haven't had a chance to try it yet.
15:24.19babijoeeits way too hot in melbourne atm
15:24.28babijoeei cbb doing anything lol
15:24.39leobaillarderf don't talk about that...lucky you !
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15:25.08playdohey guys
15:25.12playdobabijoee: ping
15:25.31babijoeeplaydo: pong
15:25.40playdohey, i'm now at home
15:25.46babijoeehaha
15:25.49babijoeestill early days
15:25.49playdowas looking for some netbook with linux ^^
15:25.55leobaillardAustralia is the dreamed country for my school's students to go in foregin exchange : you leave France in the summer, during the hollidays and after enjoyin them, you arrive in australia, you wait several months and you're in summer and hollidays again !
15:26.03leobaillardsouth emisphere rocks
15:26.04playdoits 4:25 pm ^^
15:26.19babijoeehahahaah
15:26.27leobaillardplaydo: where do you come from ? we're in the same timezone
15:26.33playdogermany
15:26.39babijoeeplaydo: its 2.26 here. where you from
15:26.41babijoeeooo
15:26.42leobaillardwow, loads of germans around here
15:26.47playdoleo france?
15:26.50leobaillardyep
15:26.55playdowhere?
15:26.59playdonorth/south?
15:27.01babijoeeparis
15:27.05babijoee:)
15:27.07playdo:-D
15:27.16leobaillardcurrently in Paris for my studies, but my parents live in Metz, near germany actually
15:27.30playdowooow that just half an our or so from me :-)
15:27.35leobaillardhehe
15:27.35playdoi'm near saarlouis
15:27.42leobaillardoooh great !
15:27.44leobaillard:)
15:27.51playdonice, maybe we see each other some day
15:27.53leobaillardI happen to know quite well this area
15:27.57leobaillardmaybe :)
15:28.13babijoeebbl guys
15:28.28leobaillardtake a cold shower babijoee ;)
15:28.36babijoeewill do
15:28.37babijoeeXD
15:28.39playdogoing to read a bit of kernel building and so
15:28.43playdohf babijoee
15:28.56playdothx again for the link babijoee
15:29.01leobaillardthat's faily easy playdo, as long as you don't modify it
15:29.17babijoeenps
15:29.49playdojust want to add that memory fix makkonen suggested
15:30.50emwehi all
15:31.00leobaillardhi emwe
15:31.02playdohi emwe
15:31.24emwehiho
15:31.37playdois poking his lame inet connection
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16:05.21Boydellmakkonen: you around?
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17:30.11Boydellhey guys
17:30.32Boydellfor the breathing LED's when sleeping, do you need the pm.debug_mask=2?
17:30.43stinebdno
17:31.01stinebdthe breathing led is a dbgfs switch that init touches
17:31.15BoydellIs that for the vibration on wake?
17:31.18stinebdyeah
17:31.22Boydellbugger then
17:31.33Boydellthe new builds breaks deep sleep
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17:36.57MarkinusHi, all , who is making the xandroid builds? We need some changes in the rootfs.img and system.sqsh for Topaz gsensor?
17:37.11stinebdMarkinus: babijoee
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17:37.43Markinusahh, okay, thx., Then I write him a pm . .
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17:46.20Boydellis there something in the dmesg that gets sent when the device goes into deep sleep?
17:50.02phh[00:56:10] <MrPippy> android might want the space, but i don't know if the adsp area is used at all, and 32 MB for mdp is a lot <-- 32MB a lot ? I'm not sure of that :p. For adsp, we will need it for camera (and maybe hardware video accel who knows ? :p)
17:50.37phh[01:26:56] <stinebd> 228MB with ramzswap <------ :'(
17:50.52stinebdphh: 228MB > 120MB :)
17:51.00Boydellhaha
17:51.08phhstinebd: I have a stupid diam.
17:51.27stinebdah
17:51.33stinebdsee mrpippy's latest commits
17:51.39phh?
17:51.46stinebdhttp://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/commit/5b53ff05c9acf8d6a978e9bf156d9e1ba0f286b3
17:51.49phhgsm diam has no second memory bank.
17:51.55stinebdoh
17:51.57stinebdpoor you
17:52.34Boydellvery poor you
17:52.35stinebdyou really should get a rhodium
17:52.37stinebdruns
17:52.42Boydellthe extra RAM is very nice :)
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17:52.50grazianoleviathan, ping
17:53.14phhstinebd: get me one.
17:53.28stinebdphh: if i find a 2 for 1 deal i'll send you one ;)
17:53.44Markinusphh: Hi, the sensor driver is working with 1.6 too, but have to be compiled explicit for this ( there are some sensors missing, light, distance ). .
17:53.44phhso I have a 0,00001% chance of getting one, cool
17:53.52stinebdphh: don't worry, so do i
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17:54.49emwephh: the pmem.extra has no effect when it's evauluated in the [board]_fixup(). use_extra_bank gets set afterwards and then it's too late. i'd propose a "common-setup.[c,h]" (which might be extended with other setup stuff) for getting rid of code duplication. what do you think?
17:55.24phhemwe: hum how do you want to fix it then ?
17:55.33phheven if you make a new file
17:55.40phhthe "too late reading cmdline" problem will remain
17:55.41emwenot fix. just drop the use_extra_bank
17:55.58emweand have some common code switched by machine-type to do the setup
17:56.01emwein one place.
17:56.06ToAsTcfhphh: ok we got msm_camera and video20 but im gettin an error about VFETASK not being already open. have u gotten anything like this?
17:56.11emwephh: like your pmem module, just not as a module
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17:56.36phhemwe: how will you parse cmdline before fixup ?
17:57.15Captnoordyo phh..
17:57.17Boydellcan you not use the mach-types.h>
17:57.18Boydell?
17:57.20emwephh: regarding the bank-setup, not at all. in general... i assume the char** cmdline passed to fixup has a meaning. just haven't evaluated what's in it.
17:57.35phhBoydell: for what ?
17:57.41phhBoydell: we're speaking about cmdline parsing
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17:57.47Boydellfor the extra mem bank stuff
17:57.48phhemwe: so we will have to parse the cmdline by hand? no thanks.
17:58.47emwephh: the thing is, you don't need to (yet). at least not for the pmem.extra as it obviously has become superflouous
17:58.49phh[03:03:05] <bzo> replicated the gsm diamond settings pmem 32->16, adsp 16->8 <------- WVGA devices had problem with only 16MB....
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18:00.38phhor it was 8MB that lead to problems ?
18:00.50ToAsTcfhphh: if u havent had this issue then i guess i need to look at ur source. to see what uve done different
18:01.11phhanyway, the problems were really important, we couldn't even start keyboard in the market, so if it happens with 8MB, I'd guess 16MB wouldn't fit all apps needs
18:01.20emwephh: i can only tell i had topa100 running with 16, and it worked, though a tad bit laggier. 24 subjectively made no difference to 32
18:01.29phhToAsTcfh: I'm stuck before VFE is even started iirc
18:02.44phhemwe: N1 has 32MB by default
18:02.57phhso I think 16 will really not be enough
18:03.40emweyah, felt laggier. but hey, i think with the extra bank, and pmem as is, one is quite fine ;)
18:03.56emweahem. sorry... except you. :/
18:04.51phhanyway I have a fix in lowmemorykiller which will help a bit
18:05.13phh(I have to check it twice though as it seems really strange)
18:07.58emwephh: did i understand correctly, that only htcdiamond_cdma has a second bank, and htcdiamond has no, right?
18:08.18phhyes
18:08.45phh[06:50:39] <MrPippy> other people have said google couldn't get it working with noncontiguous banks, although i haven't found anything official saying that <----- source code: they declare only 221MB of memory.
18:08.55ToAsTcfhphh: eh that sux
18:09.17Captnoordyet
18:10.04Boydellphh: was it you who created the LED app?
18:10.09Captnoordthe real problem of a noncontiguous bank is somewhat similar to circular buffers
18:10.15phhno it's chamonix
18:10.18Boydellah ok
18:10.23phhI "only" did the kernel part
18:10.51Boydellok. got a text and it did the ring around the rosie thing. but after reading, it wouldnt stop :\
18:11.31ToAsTcfhphh: http://github.com/jhansche/htc-2.6.27-heroc <~~ this is what we got. if u wanna look to see if itll help u guys
18:12.33phhI didn't plan to work on camera today, but well, why not.
18:12.42ToAsTcfhlol.
18:13.44ToAsTcfhwell if ur see anything wrong with the qdsp that my cause the issue were having. please let me know
18:14.03adamwmorning folks
18:14.13Boydellmorning adamw
18:15.45ToAsTcfhi tried looking at what is different in .29 against what we got. but since .27 doesn't use qdsp5 and it uses qdsp5_comp. it gets kinda confusing
18:16.49phh<Markinus> Hi, all , who is making the xandroid builds? We need some changes in the rootfs.img and system.sqsh for Topaz gsensor? <----- leobaillard or babijoee, it depends on who is available
18:18.10adamwMarkinus: oh, did you go any further with the gsensor stuff? did it work for the other topaz user?
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18:18.40Markinusadamw: yes, I posted a new Version ion forum and it seems to work on other device
18:18.49Markinuss
18:19.04adamwMarkinus: nice, linky?
18:19.08Captnoordphh know when itsme drops by...
18:19.10adamwi'll try it here
18:19.22Markinusphh: I send babijoee a PM in forum with the changes which are needed ..
18:19.33Captnoordas I know he also works on dequire
18:19.42Captnoorddequirr*
18:19.48phhdequirr ?
18:19.57Captnoordarm decompiler
18:20.01Captnoorddesquirr
18:20.06phhah
18:20.27Captnoordif you might tell him i'm interested in a joined venture
18:20.54Markinusadamw: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5189949&postcount=602
18:21.00Captnoordor anyone.. hehe I don't care
18:21.01ToAsTcfhis desquirr better then ida?
18:21.05Captnoordits using ida
18:21.09Captnoordits a ide plugin
18:21.11Captnoordida*
18:21.11ToAsTcfhi see
18:21.24Captnoordmain problem is that its designed for x86
18:21.32Captnoordso the entire arm part is kinda a hack
18:21.42Captnoordand if itsme has done some work regarding that
18:21.55Captnoordits usefull to help each other
18:22.03Captnoordsaves him time and me work
18:22.53ToAsTcfhida seems to do an ok job without the plugin. does it improve the output of ida with kernels?
18:23.15Captnoordnah...
18:23.22ToAsTcfhah
18:23.29Captnoordall i'm interested in is fixing the math stuff
18:24.00ToAsTcfhjust wondering... im kinda trying to learn ida a little at a time
18:24.01Captnoordso I don't have to spend 10 minutes reseaching how I should intepetate a instruction
18:24.15Captnoordand then forget that I had researched the same one 2 days ago
18:26.24ToAsTcfhthanx to maejrep ive learned abit abot how to make a rom out of the dissasimbled kernel and clean it up to be readable by man. but im still learning how to build and use structures properly. thats kinda the hard part i guess
18:28.24ToAsTcfhim really no good at C (ask phh) but seeing and comparing makes things easier
18:32.06Captnoordyup
18:33.16adamwMarkinus: which of the changes from topazkernel15 do I actually need to test the gsensor? just the kernel and rootfs?
18:33.26Markinusall files ..
18:33.41Markinuswe have to change the system.sqsh too
18:34.11adamwoh everything dated 3 feb i guess, heh
18:34.32Markinusadamw: it's a 1.6 build . .
18:34.39adamwoh fun.
18:34.40adamwokay.
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18:42.46adamwMarkinus: something weird with that archive, it keeps giving 'permission denied' trying to extract haret.exe . huh.
18:43.13Markinusadamw: ehhh .?!? Don'T know ..
18:43.47adamwoh well, i'll just get a copy elsewhere. heh
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18:53.52adamwMarkinus: nope. still nothing
18:54.03adamwnothing when tilting in the browser, nothing from getevent
18:54.11Markinusadamw: Okay, then is somethink different on Rhod . .
18:54.34Markinuson pure it'S working now, this was only a other microp version
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18:55.33adamwif it's working getevent should show lots of output on one input* node when tilting the phone around, right?
18:55.50lkclping, ping, folks, has anyone got an email address for cr2?
18:55.59emweMarkinus: hi. we have to wait for an updated xdandroid to get bma150 working, understood correctly? (btw its "Bosch BMA150", not "Kionix BMA150"; see my comment on linux-msm)
18:57.16emweah... you just commited ;)
18:57.40Markinusemwe: I made a 1.6 build this is working correctly. I wrote to babijoee what we need.  Yes, I know, I corrected this . .
18:58.02Markinus:) yes
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18:59.45Markinusemwe: I could myke a 2.01 build too, but I think it's better to wait for a new clean Xandroid . .
19:00.13phhlkcl: cr2@htc-linux.org
19:00.18phhlkcl: but he reads logs.
19:00.51phh(btw, we need a real name for the android builds)
19:00.54emweMarkinus: from which tree do you build your android? official repo?
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19:02.10Markinusemwe: I don't build the whole android. Only the parts which have to be replaced . . and yes. . from official
19:02.36emweah, i see.
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19:05.44irlolcopterWhen trying to set up IMAP/POP3 why do i get asked to select a MODEM? like im actually going to dialup. why does it never give me the option of using WiFi?
19:05.54irlolcopterthis is on a touch pro
19:07.24phhno hi, no info of which os you run.
19:07.53irlolcopterim sorry, im not using linux but id like to. ive had untold problems since i bought the phone
19:08.51irlolcoptertouchflo aka bugflow
19:09.10phhwhy ask here then ?
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19:09.37irlolcopteri thought maybe someone could point me in the right direction, there wasnt anyone in #htc
19:09.57phhask on #xda-devs
19:10.30irlolcopterthanks, ill give it a go
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19:11.32Oliprowhich of you motherfuckers is directing retards to our channel?
19:11.59phhoops.
19:12.00Boydellthe language
19:12.09ali1234LOL
19:12.28Oliprolook, I've got a pair of box cutters here with the name of someone's testicles written on them
19:12.43BoydellI dont want kids anyways
19:12.56Oliproit's OK, I'm just kidding
19:12.58ReeferMattnessLOL
19:13.02OliproI don't even know what the guy wants yet
19:13.26phhOlipro: it's still noob, but it's more related to #xda-devs than #htc-linux :p
19:13.33phhyou know a better chan for that ?
19:13.50Olipro##autofellatio ?
19:14.08ali1234maybe there's a #windows-* subchannel for mobile?
19:14.16Olipro(Full disclosure: that channel may exist, don't blame me for trying)
19:15.28stinebdregistered
19:15.59Oliproahaha
19:16.41Oliproso, who here uses Linux on their HTC device formally
19:16.48Oliproand which device are you running ti on
19:16.49Olipro*it
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19:18.06phhwe have diam, raph, blac, topa, rhod users
19:18.15phhmabe there is some hidden people having a kaiser or a vogue
19:18.24ali1234don't forget the omap850 folks
19:18.59chamonixhey guys
19:19.00ali1234google were kind enough to give us some of their code which we are cleaning up now
19:19.21phhali1234: I'll have to try that on my old omap phone then :p
19:19.29phh(but with 64MB RAM on it i won't do many things.)
19:19.38ali1234it runs android already
19:19.43ali1234we only need a sound driver
19:19.53chamonix19:10:51] <Boydell> ok. got a text and it did the ring around the rosie thing. but after reading, it wouldnt stop :\ <--- I'll look into that, the problem with SMS is I need to recognise that you have read the text and/or add an option to limit the time of warning
19:20.16ali1234http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RzlJrOBUfU
19:20.48ali1234we're currently at a point where sound works and you can make calls if you boot while playing a sound
19:24.51Boydellchamonix: yah that sounds good. is there a list of what does what for that app right now? or still too early?
19:26.24chamonixBoydell: right now it's hard coded and therefore not part of the preferences but I can add a short description to the forum together with version 0.3..... I'll do that after dinner
19:26.47BoydellOk. I'm pretty sure I have version 0.1
19:26.48phhversion 0;3 ?
19:26.51phhthere is a 0.2 ?
19:27.03chamonix0.2 was "internal" :)
19:27.25BoydellIs deep sleep working for you guys with the new builds?
19:27.29chamonixI have tried different things for the a/c plugged to work around a limitation in the API
19:27.57chamonixBoydell: can't tell, I can't run the build right now, I have to build them myself and had no time
19:28.23BoydellOh? Well I build my own too, but I pull from makkonen
19:28.32Boydelland the main sometimes
19:28.40chamonixBoydell: are u using the defulat "messenges" app or a replacement?
19:28.49chamonixdefault*
19:28.53Boydellbut imnot getting the "breath" effect
19:28.59Boydelldefault messages app
19:29.13phhBoydell: kill everything with taskiller ?
19:29.19Boydelldid
19:29.22lkclphh: taaaaa
19:29.30phhlkcl: ?
19:29.37chamonixok... recognising that the SMS notification was consumed by another app to stop the effect is the tricky part, that's y I ask
19:29.51lkclcr2: o log-reader, i need your help, do you still have access to idapro on my server?
19:30.03lkclphh: hallooo
19:32.22lkclphh: saw the response with cr2's message, i said "taaaa" as in "ta very much".
19:32.23adamwhum
19:32.32adamwi think the new xdandroid userland still doesn't have the calibration stuff quite right
19:32.38adamwmakkonen: around?
19:32.48Boydellhaven't seem him
19:33.02adamwit still has /sys/class/input/input3 hardcoded in one line
19:33.27adamwguess it's just overlooked
19:33.31adamwlet me see if this fixes it...
19:40.24adamwyep.
19:43.13makkonenadamw: around now.
19:43.55makkonenand... yeah. I know about that bug. told leobaillard, have a fixed rootfs at http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4444968/rootfs.img
19:44.38makkonenthere sort of needs to be a git repo for the rootfs.
19:44.49adamwmakkonen: yes, that would be nice :)
19:44.52Boydellhey makkonen see you found what was causesing the kernal panic?
19:44.58stinebdi can arrange that
19:45.01makkonenyeah
19:45.11Boydelljust stuff in the deconfig?
19:45.12adamwman, android's keysym handling is either weird or broken or I'm an idiot.
19:45.14adamwlay your bets!
19:45.29Boydellall 3? ahah jk
19:45.31adamwtrying to get a euro into a keyboard layout
19:45.34adamwBoydell: probably :)
19:45.52makkonenthe first two are almost certainly true, given that everything's weird/broken or some combo in android.
19:46.00adamwactually, now I think about it, stinebd, you put the 'cent' keysym into your fuze keyboard layout, right? and it doesn't seem to work?
19:46.11stinebdcent works
19:46.16adamwhuh. doesn't on mine
19:46.17stinebdi think i had to use ascii hex
19:46.21adamwyeah I know
19:46.24stinebdlet me look at my kcm
19:46.28adamwi kept the exact same keysym from your kcm
19:46.30adamwand it doesn't work
19:46.48adamw0xa2 , right?
19:47.18stinebdyup
19:47.30adamwdoesn't work here
19:47.38adamwwhat android are you on?
19:47.42stinebdeclair
19:47.47adamwlemme just double check that. maybe it just doesn't work in the terminal app i'm on...
19:47.58stinebdooh, i haven't tried it in a terminal
19:48.03stinebdtry it in a text field
19:48.16adamwoh yeah that's all it is, the Terminal Emulator doesn't like it
19:48.19adamwworks in browseer
19:48.52Boydellmost terminal stuff uses the default kepmaps for some reason
19:49.00Boydellbetter terminal doesnt though
19:49.23adamw'better terminal'...roger, i'll look that up
19:49.29adamwthanks
19:49.39adamwnow if I could just get pgup / pgdown to work...grr
19:49.42adamwwhat keysym reference did you use?
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19:50.48stinebdfor pgup/down? i haven't done that
19:50.53adamwi meant in general
19:51.08stinebdandroid source
19:51.38stinebdmostly frameworks/base/include/ui/KeycodeLabels.h
19:52.00adamwhum - if the kcm really only takes ascii, maybe it's impossible
19:52.26adamwstinebd: on the rhodium keyboard, you can do fn+up for pageup
19:52.34stinebdsame with raph110
19:52.36adamwbut not sure if there's a way to map that for android...
19:52.52stinebdi doubt there is one
19:53.05adamwi figured the .kcm files took keysyms, but maybe it's just ascii codes and they match up with keysyms sometimes and that's the reason i got confused
19:53.30stinebdall the .kcm files do is map android keycodes (and modifiers like fn/shift) to character output in text fields
19:53.44adamwah. then yeah, i can't see how it could be done
19:53.52adamwlovely.
19:54.52adamwso afaik there's no way to map control (since android doesn't seem to have a keycode for it), or any fn combination that's not an ascii character...
19:55.30stinebdnot without modifications to android source code
19:55.43adamwhey, it's open source, i guess we should fix that and send it in ;)
19:56.02adamwguh, better terminal has ads.
19:56.17adamwis not used to this whole 'ad supported software' crap and would like it to go away
19:56.43Boydellyah
19:56.46Boydellforgot about that
19:57.31leobaillardgonna update the build to correct my mistake makkonen
19:57.40leobaillardsorry for the delay, I was in class
19:57.41phhI'm fed up of app starting automatically at start.
19:57.52leobaillardwhich app phh ?
19:58.12BoydellI have like 6 start up
19:58.14phhI'll have to reboot to know, but the taskiller applet was full.
19:58.29Boydellyah same issue
19:58.39phhand only one asked for the permission to do so.
19:58.42phh(chamonix's one :p)
19:58.53Boydellnot for me
19:58.56Boydell:|
19:59.02phh3 or 4 are android apps, so it's normal
19:59.07phhbut some has really nothing to do there
19:59.42phh(there is a remote VCR app.... seriously, how useful is it to launch it at start ?)
20:00.07BoydellI'm rebooting to find out now lol
20:00.54Boydellbtw, things are alot more stable now, after the 2nd mem bank stuff with the 02.02 rootfs and sqsh
20:01.23phhget me a second mem bank :p
20:01.50Boydelllol
20:01.51Boydell:P
20:02.06adamwyanks a RAM chip off an old DDR stick and mails it to phh
20:02.30adamwReeferMattness: maybe we should make phh the target of the rhodium donation drive, heh
20:03.29Boydellbut then he wont work on dai/raph
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20:04.29adamwBoydell: a plan with no drawbacks!
20:04.31adamw;)
20:04.31phhBoydell: what's left to do is likely to be shared with rhod/topa anyway
20:04.44Boydellpossibly
20:04.54phhand for a game console, diam is better because of real arrows :p
20:05.19makkonenI wouldn't call the d-pad on the diamond 'real'.
20:05.31phhwhatever you call it.
20:05.40phhit's usable to play at least
20:05.49Boydellhaha
20:05.55tmztit has hardware buttons of sorts
20:06.00Boydellmakkonen: is your deep sleep broke too?
20:06.08makkonenmaybe? I didn't test it.
20:06.22tmztphh: donation? you got full nand yet ? :)
20:06.37phhtmzt: no but they want to donate me a rhod :p
20:07.00phhOlipro: oh btw you might be useful.
20:07.17phhOlipro: do you know how to make a diag image and how does spl jumps to it ?
20:07.40Oliproyes
20:07.49Oliprobut it'll only be useful if you have a Hard-SPL'd device
20:07.58phhyes sure.
20:09.40phhI blindly tried to change the id from 0x400 to 0x500, but it didn't really work as expected.
20:10.44phhiirc, it just said "jump to diag"
20:11.31leobaillardupdated build is uploading...
20:11.47adamwohh i knew I knew olipro's nick from somewhere. kudos dude, you are awesome :)
20:12.05Olipro>_>
20:12.08tmztphh: you've tried the dzo method?
20:12.11tmztwith tinboot?
20:12.28tmztchange the xip from 0x100 to 0x200
20:14.15phhthe xip what ?
20:14.25tmztpartition
20:14.33tmztpartition type
20:14.39phhah.
20:14.45tmztOlipro: is that the right number?
20:15.16Oliproyou'd be better off asking cmonex
20:15.21Oliproshe knows the xip stuff
20:15.31tmztwhere is she?
20:15.33tmztah right
20:15.35Oliprojogging
20:15.37tmztxda
20:15.51Oliproand out jogging
20:15.53Oliproshe calls it running
20:15.56OliproI call it jogging
20:16.31phhOlipro: and is flashing from usb otg expected to work ?
20:16.49Oliprodo what?
20:17.13phhflashing through usb host
20:17.24Oliproyeah, what about it/
20:17.47phhit is supposed to work ? I get a "not allow" error
20:17.52phh(HSPL 1.37 on gsm diamond)
20:18.05Oliproare you sure you have Hard-SPL in that case
20:18.21Oliproif it really is Hard-SPLd then it would only say that if the ModelID didn't match
20:18.24phhyes, I can flash any ROM with the movinand or customruu
20:18.53phhwith the exact same nbh, one on the hard drive, one on the movinand, works from movinand, not from the hard drive
20:19.11Oliproso you can't flash it from RUU?
20:19.13Boydellapps that run on startup: settings, email, voice dialer, google voice, LedEffects V0.1, messaging, alarm clock, advanced task killer
20:19.43phhOlipro: I can, but it's a pain to use
20:19.58OliproI'm not exactly clear how you're trying to flash then
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20:20.36phhput a diamimg.nbh on a usb mass storage device, connecting an usb host cable (with external vbus), boot with vol down + right button
20:20.38tmztOlipro: he's trying to boot linux from an sd card as a diag image
20:20.48tmztoh
20:20.57f77[Diamond] > USB Cable > USB HDD
20:21.37Oliproah, USB mass storage
20:21.38phh(if I can get diag working I wouldn't need usb otg though)
20:22.00Oliprowhat would diag do for you?
20:22.13phheasy to test kernel boot from SPL
20:22.30Oliprodiag is basically an NBH with an MSBIN file inside
20:22.46OliproMSthe BIN file contains the loading address and execution address
20:22.55Oliprodepending on the execution address the SPL may or may not turn off the MMU
20:23.51Oliproanyway
20:23.57Oliprowhat is it you want to execute?
20:24.28phhlinux kernel
20:25.00Oliprodoes the kernel have to be loaded to a specific physical address?
20:25.50f77is there a debugger i can run on my diamond to log all messages?
20:26.05phhf77: for android ?
20:26.14f77for htc
20:26.18f77from boot to wince
20:26.23phhOlipro: it would be better if it's the base of ebi, but I can do without it
20:26.41Oliprothe base of ebi?
20:26.50Oliproyou mean the ebi register?
20:26.52Oliprothat's x86
20:27.05phhbase of the ebi ram
20:27.10Oliproso 0x0?
20:27.10phh0x10000000
20:27.15Oliproah
20:27.16phh0x0 is smi
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20:27.23Oliprohm, that should be possible
20:28.19phhf77: dump nand @0x02780000 (size 0x80000 )
20:29.16f77512kb?
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20:29.50phhf77: kB yes
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20:30.05f77btw, did you try to replace the diamimg on your usb mass storage?
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20:30.42phhno, but the same diamimg worked when flashed from movinand
20:33.25f77how many devices you have?
20:33.43phhjust my diamond
20:34.00phh(if you mean htc devices)
20:34.04f77yes
20:34.07adamwdo we have an 'official' location for kernel builds with the extra memory bank enabled, for now?
20:34.10adamw(since the kernel param doesn't work)
20:34.24phhadamw: hasn't MrPippy commited it as default setting for everyone ?*
20:34.29adamwor should I just send matt one via backchannels to put in our new rhodium pack?
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20:34.34adamwphh: has he? i didn't see such a commit
20:34.39adamwphh: you still have to flip the 0 to a 1
20:34.46phhok
20:34.51adamwgit diff still shows it as a diff in my tree
20:34.59adamweven after pulling latest changes
20:36.02phhok, let's see that.
20:37.37ReeferMattnessI have that zimage still Adam
20:37.45ReeferMattnesswith that changed already
20:37.46adamwReeferMattness: i just rebuilt it with latest upstream changes
20:37.50adamwsince yesterday
20:37.54phhadamw: why do you want to do a "rhodium pack" btw ?
20:37.59adamwprobably nothing particularly relevant to rhodiums but good to have the latest
20:38.08adamwphh: matt has been doing them for a while, it's just for convenience
20:38.22adamwphh: a known working kernel + userspace + rhodium boot config in a cab file for easy install
20:38.32phhah.
20:38.40phhisn't it possible to make a board autodetection ?
20:38.57adamwphh: and for now i'll add the rhod210 keyboard layout to it, since i didn't get that up to xdandroid yet
20:39.08adamwphh: probably. i dunno :)
20:39.38adamwphh: there's less reason to have it now markinus' rhodium/topaz fixes got resynced
20:40.07adamwphh: matt first did one because we needed a kernel from markinus with those fixes, rather than a straight build of msm
20:40.39Markinusadamw: there are all things checked in . .
20:40.47adamwMarkinus: yes now msm is fine
20:40.52adamwMarkinus: but when matt first did his .cab, it wasn't
20:40.59Markinusahh, okay
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20:41.33leobaillardupdated*
20:41.40IceBoneAny faster than the older one?
20:41.54phhI updated blac, raph, cdma diam, topa, rhod
20:41.58phhI think I forgot noone ? :p
20:42.02IceBonegsm diam :D
20:42.04Boydellleobaillard: what got updated from yesterday?
20:42.10adamwleobaillard: i'll send you the rhod210 keymaps as soon as i'm sure they're okay, probably tonight.
20:42.15phhIceBone: GRRRR no second ram bank
20:42.24leobaillardjust a mistake in the init script about the screen calibration
20:42.33IceBonephh: I've no idea what that means.
20:42.41makkonenphh: that rhodium donation's sounding better right about now eh? :-)
20:42.48Boydellah. It worked for mine still so I don't need it
20:42.58adamwBoydell: yeah if your touchscreen is input3 it'll make no difference
20:43.14phhIceBone: diamond has only 196MB, while you have 288MB
20:43.46phhsecond bank pushed.
20:44.07Boydellphh: with bank2 enabled, I only get 178 MB :S
20:44.14phhBoydell: poor you.
20:44.33leobaillardthat's so unfair...
20:44.39phhhum you should get 184MB
20:44.44phhoh well, kernel memory.
20:44.47IceBoneSo... is it worth me updating?
20:44.50leobaillardwhat do they need it and why don't we ??
20:45.06IceBoneI'm running the 24.01 with one of the 01.02 zimages.
20:45.33adamwhow'd you get calibration?
20:45.44adamwor is your zImage pre-new-calibration-stuff?
20:45.44phhTS or wlan ?
20:46.20phhadamw: ?
20:46.25makkonenadamw: or does he have a blackstone?
20:46.33makkonenicebone: or do you have a blackstone?
20:46.50adamwphh: was just wondering how he's getting calibration with old xdanroid but new zimage
20:47.03phhah.
20:47.40IceBoneI have a diam100.
20:48.01phhIceBone: ah cool :p
20:48.17IceBoneWith a bit of a scratched up screen and a creaky back plate.
20:48.27f770x02780000 with JTAG
20:48.34IceBone:(
20:48.36f77hmm so any wince kernel debuggers?
20:48.59phhIceBone: same here.
20:49.33IceBoneI was gonna buy a Hero, but that got put on the backburner while I save up for a Nikon D700.
20:50.16IceBoneIt's a tad pricier than a Hero.
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20:52.17leobaillardIceBone: I know what you mean, I bought myself a Canon EOS 500D with my first salary... it's great but it hurts quite a bit...
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20:52.52adamwi have a friend who has a 5d mk ii
20:52.52adamwhehe
20:53.07adamwhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/adamwill/4287125650/
20:53.53leobaillardnice ! but I don't have the money, nor enough skill for that...
20:54.09adamwyeah I know right? i tried to use it and I was just like 'holy crap, the buttons'
20:54.25adamwi have the s90
20:55.04Markinusphh: I'M thing so about what I could do as next, what's with GPS? Could I do somethink for this? You are working on this, or?
20:55.31adamwMarkinus: most people in the thread seem to be waiting for sound and power management...but you told me about sound already hehe
20:55.37phhMarkinus: there is something you can try (and if it works I'll hate you.)
20:55.39adamwpersonally i'd love gps
20:55.42phhadamw: what about power management ?!?
20:55.56adamwphh: well there doesn't seem to be much on the rhodium, it dies very fast.
20:56.00leobaillardadamw: imho, the 500D is great for amateurs that want a little more powerful camera
20:56.05chamonixdamn
20:56.07Markinusphh: :)
20:56.11phhMarkinus: use android devices's libgps, with some links in /dev/oncrpc and changes in smd_rpcrouter_device.c
20:56.16leobaillardaccording to canon, it's just before the pro range
20:56.35leobaillardchamonix: ?
20:56.35phhMarkinus: but I have to do some tries about 3D and memory on diamond first.
20:56.37adamwleobaillard: I didn't want a dslr because i probably wouldn't have the commitment to take it anywhere
20:56.42chamonixhey leobaillard
20:56.54Markinusphh: ahh, ok
20:56.59chamonixmy emu for whatever reason has no network :/
20:57.02leobaillardadamw: that's a step I was willing to pass
20:57.05IceBoneYou're honestly comparing a 500D to a D700? It's about 5 classes lower.
20:57.08adamwleobaillard: so i just got the best compact i could find, which is the s90 - it gets pretty close to slr quality with decent light
20:57.08leobaillards/pass/cross/
20:57.50leobaillardadamw: my 500D is quite light too, depending on the optical you put on
20:58.01adamwleobaillard: i meant, if you're taking pictures *in* decent light
20:58.14adamwleobaillard: obviously it's not as good with flash pictures as an slr
20:58.18IceBoneI have a D300 now, and am looking forward to switching to full frame.
20:58.33leobaillardIceBone: not comparing, merely stating that I had the "same" money issue
20:58.38IceBone:P
20:58.46leobaillardjust remember that I'm a student... :p
20:58.52IceBoneAnd I'm not? :P
20:59.03leobaillarddon't know
20:59.06IceBoneThe only way I can afford the D700 is if I pay for it in 12 installments.
20:59.21leobaillardbut if you are and without a job, you must have saved money for...years ?!
20:59.27leobaillardah
20:59.37adamwfor low-end slrs the olympus e600 looked nice to me - good specs low price.
20:59.59IceBoneI've had quite a lot of fun with the D300, should only get better with full frame.
21:00.02IceBonehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/icebone/4191520394/ <-- <3
21:00.04phhhum, noone noticed that the GPU0 and ram_console memory overlapsed ?
21:00.14adamwhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/adamwill/4286377387/ <-- me trying to figure out the 5d :P
21:00.21leobaillardmaybe you've got one that can interest phh : http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamwill/4314633878/in/photostream/
21:00.33phhouch
21:00.41phhI can see a raph.
21:00.43adamwyeah i posted that up here yesterday
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21:01.04phhadamw: you have a spare raph ?
21:01.06adamwphh: moto krzr, moto v360, cdma diamond, three titans
21:01.06leobaillardadamw: you look quite confused in front of it :p
21:01.10adamwleobaillard: yup :)
21:01.11phhit's a diamond ?
21:01.12phhhum
21:01.19phhit seems huge
21:01.23adamwyeah third one down's a cdma diamond
21:01.31adamwprobably just the perspective on the pic
21:01.35IceBonehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/icebone/3812835170/
21:01.48adamwi 'sold' it on ebay but the guy who won it said he didn't want it and i didn't get a reply out of the second bidder yet
21:01.49IceBoneSometimes I love being a photographer. Oh, wait, I ALWAYS love being a photographer.
21:01.55adamwso if anyone wants a cdma diamond i may be able to donate it
21:02.11adamwnice shots, icebone.
21:02.26phhadamw: cdma or cdma+gsm ?
21:02.37phhoh well, I already have gsm diam anyway.
21:02.40leobaillardphh if you look close enough, you can see that the usb port is in the middle of the device which leaves no room for the sliding keyboard
21:02.47adamwphh: cdma only.
21:02.54adamwphh: it's from telus in canada.
21:03.00IceBonehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/icebone/3556699208/
21:03.32BoydellIceBone: I like your pictures!
21:03.39IceBoneThanks. :)
21:04.31IceBonehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/icebone/sets/72157614980578730/detail/ <-- here's some of my Diamond when it was still scratch free. :D
21:05.07makkonenI always forget how thin and sleek the gsm diamond is.
21:05.16Boydellone thing i dont like about it
21:05.19adamwIceBone: http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamwill/4287124168/sizes/l/ <- you can get some nice shots out of the s90 like i said...check out the lack of noise on the full-size
21:05.21Boydellthe sharp looking edges
21:05.25BoydellI like them round
21:05.27IceBonehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/icebone/3111367078/ <-- D3x with 70-200
21:05.29leobaillardwaow you rock !
21:05.59IceBonehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/icebone/3235691438/sizes/o/ <-- And D300 with 50
21:06.12IceBoneMiss Austria 2008 is pretty.
21:06.23adamwIceBone: neat
21:07.18leobaillardIceBone: what opticals do you own ?
21:07.47phh[22:15:27] <makkonen> I always forget how thin and sleek the gsm diamond is. <---- without a battery is easy :p
21:07.54makkonenhah. true.
21:08.00IceBoneSigma 24/1.8, Nikkor 50/1.8, Sigma 17-70/2.8-4.5, Sigma 70-200/2.8
21:08.08phhmakkonen: how much capacity does yours have ?
21:08.09makkonenwhat is it, 850mAh?
21:08.12phh900
21:08.18makkonencdma is 1300 or 1350
21:08.21makkonen1340?
21:08.23IceBoneadamw: It's noise free cause there's a lot of noise reduction involved.
21:08.34IceBoneA LOT
21:08.49IceBoneAnd god damn it, get some chapstick.
21:09.14phhnoise reduction works ?
21:09.15adamwIceBone: haha :) yeah, I know, but it's still good for a compact.
21:09.23adamwphh: well, it depends what you mean by 'works'
21:09.26IceBoneYeah, it works.
21:09.26phhok :p
21:09.30IceBoneBut you lose a lot of detail.
21:09.32adamwphh: you lose detail corresponding to how much noise has to be reduced
21:09.35phh.
21:09.49phhI prefer noised photos then
21:10.10IceBoneWith noisy images, I prefer to leave the luminance noise and just remove the colour noise.
21:10.16adamwIceBone: that's just casual pictures in a cafe, too. no professional lighting involved :P
21:10.17IceBoneThat way it looks like film grain.
21:10.49makkonenI find (more with film that stills) that the more we move to digital stuff... the more nostalgic appeal i find in real, honest to goodness film grain
21:10.53adamwIceBone: i have a friend from college who does semi-pro photography, lemme find his flickr.
21:11.05makkonen(film/stills i.e. movies versus photos)
21:11.21adamwIceBone: http://www.flickr.com/photos/deblur/
21:11.50IceBoneQuite nice.
21:12.16IceBoneUses too much clarity in the outdoors photos.
21:12.26phhhep users, try ltest glemsom's kernel.
21:12.27IceBoneAlmost to the point of faux HDR.
21:12.42phhs/ltest/latest/
21:13.00IceBoneGood optic.s
21:13.02IceBoneoptics*
21:13.25IceBoneI see quite a few f/1.4 lenses.
21:13.30IceBoneAt least two.
21:13.41adamwIceBone: his pictures from japan use different color to the ones in glasgow.
21:15.15MarkinusI've a alpha300 and I'm very happy with this! :)
21:15.19IceBoneIt's different post processing techniques. You also can't get the same colours if you have night shots, flash, daylight, overcast, etc.
21:15.30IceBoneOne of my fave photographers is Razooma.
21:15.39adamwIceBone: yeah, I know. just saying he doesn't always use the same look.
21:15.45IceBonehttp://www.razooma.net/projects/
21:15.54GNUtooleviathan, hi
21:16.02adamwIceBone: i think he was just trying to set off the crowds of people against the background. glasgow isn't the prettiest town in the world either :P
21:16.12GNUtooleviathan, are you aware that the firmware of the wifi can't be redistributed ?
21:16.22IceBoneBest thing to do is use a wide open lens.
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21:16.27IceBoneBlurs it out completely.
21:16.34IceBoneI'm also buying a 85/1.4
21:16.37IceBoneThat lens fucking rocks.
21:16.45IceBoneOr hmm...
21:16.57IceBoneSince I'll be going to FF, I should look into 135/2.0
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21:17.50IceBonehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/safama/4035061360/
21:17.59IceBoneThat's what a 135/2.0 does on full frame.
21:18.01IceBoneIt's fucking epic.
21:19.03adamwoooh. pretty.
21:19.11makkonennice bokeh.
21:19.15IceBone1200 euro...
21:19.19IceBone*faceslap*
21:19.24IceBoneFor the lens.
21:19.27IceBone2100 for the body.
21:19.28makkonenouch
21:19.31makkonendouble ouch
21:19.32IceBoneMy wallet just had a heart attack.
21:19.34adamwthats, uh, three times what my camera cost :P
21:19.39adamw(just the lens)
21:19.49Boydelloh yah we all just have that lying around eh
21:21.11leobaillardI got mine as a package for 763€
21:22.21IceBoneOr maybe I should get the 85/1.4
21:22.25IceBoneWhich is only 1000 euro.
21:22.32IceBoneThey say it's the sharpest lens ever.
21:22.40makkonenand so cheap!
21:22.43phhor maybe (but that's just an idea.) stay rich.
21:22.48adamwyeah, it's a bargain!
21:22.48IceBoneI'm fucking poor.
21:22.50adamwor spend it on phones
21:22.57IceBonebut I need the tools for my trade.
21:22.57phhyes like a rhod for me.
21:22.59phhor even a N1.
21:23.01adamwi hear phones have cameras in them too
21:23.04adamwi'm sure that's just as good
21:23.07IceBoneDon't make me slap you.
21:23.08phh:)
21:23.10adamw=)
21:23.14IceBoneI will invent a device to slap you over the internet.
21:23.21adamwmany have tried
21:24.04IceBoneNow if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go back to drooling over this: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/NikonD700
21:24.32leobaillardit's pretty :)
21:24.53leobaillardwhat's the switch on the right bottom corner ?
21:25.08IceBoneNear where it says FX?
21:25.25leobaillardyep
21:25.44IceBoneSwitch between manual focus, single autofocus or continuous autofocus.
21:26.13IceBonehttp://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/nikond700/images/frontleft.jpg
21:26.17leobaillardk
21:26.35leobaillardthat's handy
21:26.42leobaillardI always have to go in the menu for that :/
21:26.48adamwMarkinus: oh, let me know if there's anything i can do to help investigate gps on the rhodium. uhh, anything that isn't actual coding. :)
21:27.15IceBoneMy D300 has exactly the same button arrangement.
21:27.26IceBoneWell, a few buttons shifted about, but they're all there.
21:27.32Markinusadamw: gps is hard stuff, I need time . . .. .
21:27.59adamwMarkinus: yeah, sure, just letting you know i'm here if you want me to check anything.
21:27.59IceBoneAll 29 of them...
21:28.34IceBonehttp://a.img-dpreview.com/gallery/nikond700_samples/originals/dsc_0681_capture.jpg <-- bwaaaah... check out THAT image quality... can't compete against full frame.
21:28.54IceBoneAnd of course the 85/1.4 lens.
21:29.40IceBoneNot very good lighting on that pic. No shadows.
21:30.42IceBoneFuck linux, this is photography channel from now on! :P
21:30.57phh:)
21:31.05chamonixlol
21:31.21phhI love wasting my time with forgeting to boot with the changed zImage.
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21:31.44playdoeveining guys
21:32.11Markinusthe Topaz camera is not bad . . ( if there is enogh light )
21:32.40adamwMarkinus: the rhodium camera stinks
21:32.45adamwunless it's something off on energyrom
21:32.50adamwit seems worse than the diamond camera even, heh
21:33.00phhdiam cam is bad ?
21:33.11adamwwell it's not terrible, but i mean, it's a 2megapixel phone camera
21:33.12IceBoneMine's broken.
21:33.17adamwyou can't expect much
21:33.22adamwoh, it's 3.2. still.
21:33.24IceBonehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/icebone/3745465771/sizes/o/in/set-72157621776537692/ <-- this was almost complete darkness.
21:33.28phhadamw: it's enough to read QR-code
21:33.32phhthat's all I care about :p
21:33.33playdou cant expect anythin from such a camera
21:33.43IceBoneDon't be fooled about the lights, it was DARK
21:33.50adamwphh: holy crap, 1/40?!
21:33.56adamwer, that was for icebone
21:34.06IceBoneYup.
21:34.09adamwthat's ridiculous
21:34.11IceBone24mm lens, you can afford it.
21:34.26IceBoneRule of thumb is, if you've got a reasonably steady hand, you can go down to 1/focal length.
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21:34.35IceBoneWithout suffering motion blur.
21:34.40adamwi mean, getting that much light at 1/40 is ridiculous
21:34.52adamwi was guessing 1/15 or so just looking at the pic
21:35.00IceBonef/1.8 lens. :D
21:35.04adamwyeah
21:35.10fleixiusbah i have to poop
21:35.19fleixiusi need a good app to visit while im there.
21:35.24fleixiusany suggestions
21:35.27IceBoneNow you've interrupted me... what was I gonna do?
21:35.33IceBoneOh yeah...
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21:35.44adamwfleixius: oh, i saw your stuff on scrollback about keymapping. did you get answers to everything?
21:35.59IceBonehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6bUjpKkYM0 <-- this is my diamond's cam.
21:36.05IceBoneAnyone know wtf is the problem with it?
21:36.14fleixiusadamw, Actually yes - I have it all figured out, have gotten a fuze?
21:36.19IceBoneIt's been like that since day one.
21:36.31adamwfleixius: no. but you know there's fuze keymaps already, right?
21:36.54fleixiusadamw, Yes there are - but who wants to use the END key to enter sleep.
21:37.03fleixiusAnd have the power button used as home.
21:37.06adamwfleixius: all you have to do is boot with physkeyboard=fuze parameter
21:37.06phhIceBone: coool
21:37.07fleixiusI had to fix all of that.
21:37.14IceBonephh: NOT REALLY!
21:37.21IceBoneWhen I actually want to make a short vid, I'm fuckt.
21:37.27adamwfleixius: um, that's fine by me. it's the usual setup on all phones. because you can't separate power and end call.
21:37.27phhIceBone: both cameras does that
21:37.28fleixiusadamw, Yeah I know - I made my custom maps for it.  SInce I have a PTT button.
21:37.33IceBonephh: yes.
21:37.35IceBoneFront and back.
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21:37.39adamwso if you remap 'power' to the power button, then the power button is also end call.
21:38.00fleixiusadamw, Oh really - mm.. I was wondering why they did that.  Perhaps I'll give it a shot next time im in a call.
21:38.03adamwhaving end call as endcall/power and power as home seems fine to me.
21:38.04IceBoneIt's not rom related as I've tried 3 different ones and they all do that.
21:38.09fleixiusBut that's fine - the power button is a standby more so then sleep.
21:38.18phhIceBone: radio ?
21:38.20adamwfleixius: because no real Android phones have separate power/end call buttons so Google didn't bother separating them, i believe.
21:38.21IceBoneI assume it's fucked up at the machine level.
21:38.27IceBonephh: how could radio fix the camera?
21:38.38phhIceBone: everything goes through radio.
21:38.41IceBoneOh, it fixes itself once in a while for 3 seconds.
21:38.55IceBoneI thought radio just handled calls and data.
21:39.02phhIceBone: no :p
21:39.02fleixiusadamw, I figured there was a good reasoning for it.  However; I wanted to restore the functions that I originally had so I n olonger get bent over backwards when switching between winmo and android
21:39.10IceBoneNow I'm confuzzled.
21:39.17adamwfleixius: fair enough, just wanted to explain there's a reason it's done this way :)
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21:39.38fleixiusadamw, I expected as much because it only seemed illogical to have the power button serve as something other then power.
21:39.42adamwfleixius: actually if you read waaaaay back through the xdandroid thread (somewhere around pages 60-70) there's a bunch of people saying 'why do I have to hit the power button to hang up a call?!' and so that's when it got changed
21:39.47IceBoneSo, how do I update the radio? Mine's quite old.
21:39.52fleixiusI'll see if I can much with a patch to perhaps seperate the power/end call.
21:40.03adamwIceBone: it's just a ROM flash, like flashing a new WM rom
21:40.10IceBoneAh, ok.
21:40.20adamwfleixius: that would be nice for sure. though then we'd have to find a home button on some phones, heh.
21:40.29fleixiusadamw, ahhh gotcha....well right now my end key / power key serve the same function
21:40.40fleixiusadamw, Except the holding duration is different.
21:40.47IceBoneK, booting into winmo and looking for new radio.
21:40.55fleixiusadamw, Ha - my home button is the actual home key
21:40.55IceBoneSo... what is radio then, if not just calls/data?
21:41.03fleixiusadamw, Then my settings button is the PTT button.
21:41.18adamwfleixius: there's no home key on some phones, my rhodium for e.g. well there is a key labelled home, but it's on the keyboard.
21:41.24adamwso you can't press it when the phone's closed.
21:41.34fleixiusadamw, Well of course - I'm speakin about the fuze layout.
21:41.37adamwyeah
21:41.50fleixiusadamw, I dont have the familiarity of all of the raph phnes yet.
21:42.01adamwsure, for phones with enough hardware keys, being able to split up the end call / power would be great
21:42.17fleixiusadamw, yes - I have more then enough keys with the att fuze.
21:43.28fleixiusOh wow fiber one has made me feel like a dump truck is backing out of me.
21:43.49IceBonephh: It's reported that 1.00.25.05 is the most stable one. I have that.
21:44.43adamwfleixius: TOO MUCH INFORMATION
21:44.57ReeferMattnessHAHAHAHA
21:44.57phhI tried to get as much RAM as possible from diamond, I bet it will crash as soon as I boot :)
21:45.13fleixiuslol - as I originally stated i need some good apps to look for while in the crap house
21:45.40IceBonephh: could reflashing the same radio rom fix it?
21:45.49phhIceBone: maybe
21:45.59IceBoneK, i'll go try that first.
21:45.59fleixiusAnyone have a fix for the battery notifications, I cant stand that it always thinks my batter is at 0-15%
21:46.09playdophh: can u tell somethin about ram in blackstone?
21:46.19phhfleixius: workaround is htc_battery_smem.fake=1
21:46.22playdois the same tweak working as diam/taph?
21:46.29phhplaydo: like last commit make it have 180MB ?
21:46.36playdoyep
21:46.41fleixiusphh, thats set in the startup right
21:46.54playdodoes the modification makkonen mentioned work?
21:47.00phhplaydo: try it :p
21:47.12playdowas too lazy ^^
21:47.21playdogot myself an asus eee pc today
21:47.28playdoso thats where my time went
21:47.52playdobut babijoee mentioned,that u could have more knowledge about that
21:48.05fleixiusplaydo ha dont put debian based distros on there - the NIC chipset isnt supported out of the box
21:48.57playdowhat distros support it?
21:49.04playdorunning xp arm
21:49.05playdoatm
21:49.26IceBonephh: android bypasses the radio rom, correct?
21:49.32phhnot at all.
21:50.01phhthere is no way to bypass radio rom
21:50.04IceBoneAh.
21:50.13IceBoneSo i'd get the same problems in Android if the cam worked.
21:50.17playdour phone relates on it or not?
21:50.22adamwfleixius: there's zillions of eee's, they have different hardware
21:50.34playdoits the 1001ha
21:50.35adamwunless you guys have the exact same model it may be different for him
21:51.06phha zillion ?
21:51.08phhhow much is that
21:51.12adamwyes. exactly a zillion
21:51.18adamwmore than a billion but less than a squillion
21:51.22makkonenit's a thousand jillion. gawd. didn't you go to school?
21:51.27adamwheh
21:51.33playdo^^
21:51.56playdogot atheros ar8132 nic
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21:52.11makkonenmm. I like atheros chipsets. so does linux, generally.
21:52.22adamwquestion - ifconfig shows a usb0 interface on my rhodium
21:52.26IceBoneOk, wish me luck.
21:52.31playdog
21:52.33playdol
21:52.39adamwdoes that mean i should be able to get usb connection working if i poke it a bit
21:52.40adamw?
21:52.54IceBoneGreat, battery's not over 50%... gotta wait.
21:53.51playdowas is always 0..15% before?
21:54.12playdoi got the prob that it jumps from under 15% to over 50% at times
21:54.23phhplaydo: he is speaking about wimo's indicator :p
21:54.24phhwell spl's one
21:54.24IceBoneYeah, same here, but I checked this in winmo.
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21:55.11playdophh: whoops my bad
21:55.57playdoah just a short off topic question: whats a good irc client on windows?
21:56.01playdoquassel?
21:56.05phhyes
21:56.13playdowhat about mirc?
21:56.35IceBonewindows or windows mobile?
21:56.39IceBoneIf latter, none.
21:56.43playdonormal windows
21:56.48IceBonemirc
21:56.52phhquassel.
21:56.58IceBoneWith text set to white on black and tile windows.
21:57.00playdoi know winmo sucks ^^ got andchat
21:57.06IceBoneYeah, andchat is nice.
21:57.18phhI want quassel on android ;'(
21:57.21phh:*
21:57.22IceBoneAlthough I've had a problem with android lately... am...
21:57.26playdotried it this morning. quite nice, but is crashed
21:57.41IceBoneAndroid fails to boot up properly and I lose all my messages and andchat network settings.
21:57.42playdook i'm getting quassel now
21:57.53phhIceBone: I win ! :p
21:57.59IceBoneWell, what's YOUR error? :P
21:58.16IceBoneAnyway, SGA on tv, bbi45.
21:58.21IceBoneBattery will be charged by then.
21:58.27phh:)
21:58.29phhtime to sleep here
21:58.34makkonendoes battery in android always report 5% on rhodium/topaz?
21:59.07adamwmakkonen: always reports 100%
21:59.13adamw(I think, I don't unplug it a lot)
21:59.16makkonenhuh
21:59.27adamwi'll unplug and watch it for a bit
21:59.31makkonendo you have it running at the moment?
21:59.42makkonencan you go to spare parts > battery information
21:59.43adamwyeah
21:59.56makkonenand tell me what the values are there? voltage, specifically?
22:00.05adamw3759mV
22:00.18phhoO
22:00.22makkonenhmm
22:00.26adamwnot charging, unplugged, 100, 100, good, 3755 mV, 39, li-ion, 39:10
22:00.29adamwhuh, it went down
22:00.32adamwmaybe it works, he
22:00.36adamwoh wait
22:00.40adamwjust went to 3767 :P
22:00.46adamwi'll watch it for a bit
22:00.52makkonen(yeah. it's... not reliable. Don't worry about it.)
22:01.50MrPippyhehe i'm doing the same thing in winmo, recording percentage and the fc148 voltage number
22:01.58adamwit seems to be sort of behaving sanely now
22:02.06adamwit's dropped smoothly from 3767 to 3762
22:02.14adamwoh wait, just went up again. haha.
22:02.41adamwit's definitely trending pretty much as it should though (down, 1 mV at a time)
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22:02.56Markinusdid someone know what the AUDHPEN GPIO do?
22:03.00makkonen3767 should not be 100%, though. not sure what that means.
22:03.09adamwit still says 100%
22:03.13adamwi don't recall ever seeing it say anything else
22:03.18makkonenalright.
22:03.26ReeferMattnessIve seen it change
22:03.36adamwmatt: how's yours act?
22:03.46makkonenlooks like it actually doesn't use the same values as raph800.
22:03.52ReeferMattnessit will go down like to like 90% but its VERY rare
22:04.01makkonendoes it (semi-)accurately report? so... no. always high?
22:04.03ReeferMattnessbut I have seen it change
22:04.10ReeferMattnessno, its always at the top
22:04.16ReeferMattnessit never changes when charging
22:04.29MrPippyeven nuebattery doesn't get the voltage measurement right in winmo, i have a 3.7V battery but the max it reports is 4.0
22:04.33ReeferMattnessbut like twice ive seen it go down to the next battery image, i think its 90%
22:04.57ReeferMattnessonce with one of the REALLY old builds i even got a message for a low batt
22:05.11ReeferMattnessthen went to WinMo and still had 40% batt
22:05.13ReeferMattnesslol
22:05.27makkonenmrpippy: ah. then I'm going on the wrong data. so 3767 = 100% is good.
22:05.32cr2_Markinus: AUDIO_HeadPhone_ENable
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22:06.02adamwwould be a confirmed fan of AUDHPEN
22:06.02cr2_phh: gps ideas ?
22:06.05adamw=)
22:06.24phhcr2_: do you know if topa/rhod also resets when activating gps ?
22:06.46cr2_phh: i have not tried
22:06.57phhMarkinus: can you try gps and dump wince dmesg ?
22:06.58cr2_phh: because i don't have either
22:07.06adamwphh: by 'activate' what do you mean? i have it turned 'on' in android and apps think it's on - it doesn't work, but doesn't cause problems
22:07.07Markinuscr2_: Is this needed to activate sound?
22:07.10Markinusphh: yes
22:07.32cr2_Markinus: on the headphone ? i think yes
22:07.40phhadamw: what I mean about what ?
22:07.48adamwphh: by 'activate' gps
22:07.48Markinuscr2_: What is HeadPhone? :) Sorry
22:07.59adamwphh: did you just mean 'turn it on in android'
22:08.11phhadamw: no in wince
22:08.15adamwoh right. i see.
22:08.19cr2_Markinus: kopfhörer
22:08.22phhadamw: on raph/diam, the radio resets when activating gps.
22:08.26adamwahh.
22:08.30Markinusahh. okay, thx! :)
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22:10.01playdois changing to quassel
22:10.03cr2_phh: i'm also curious how gps works on leo
22:10.11phhNetRipper: ?
22:10.24cr2_phh: clk,vreg,dex
22:10.29cr2_are missing
22:10.40phhdex ? for gps ?
22:10.56cr2_i think he did some traces for me, though
22:11.16cr2_phh: the kernel is so incomplete, that you can't test rpc
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22:11.39phhcr2_: you can dump from wince
22:11.48cr2_phh: and since it's different amss, it needs to be verified first
22:12.02cr2_phh: yes, but usually it is spammed by agps
22:12.19cr2_phh: btw, i got this quickgps miniicon now.
22:12.37cr2_if i get the ephemeris from 50bps stream, is it stored too ?
22:12.48cr2_in this quickgps format ?
22:13.01phhI always wondered about that, and I think no it doesn't save it
22:13.24cr2_it must save something
22:13.48cr2_time-dependent
22:13.55phhwhy would it do this ? the A11 can send him ephermis
22:14.00cr2_because after you get a fix, this stupid big brother popup goes away.
22:14.27phhah ?
22:14.29phhi'm wrong then.
22:15.05cr2_i'm not sure these are 100% correlated though
22:15.07noisyzenbe back shortly.
22:16.40Markinusphh: I see nothing . .
22:16.40Markinushttp://pastebin.com/m6ce4e58b
22:16.55adamwphh: voltage down to 3714, still showing 100%.
22:17.24phhMarkinus: uh ?!? you started gps ?!?
22:17.34Markinusyes
22:17.36playdoweird
22:17.44mickeylGNUtoo: is backlight fully working for you now?
22:17.47playdoquassel gives me some thinking
22:17.52mickeylGNUtoo: it still behaves somewhat bogus for me
22:17.53phhMarkinus: hum ok...
22:17.55Markinusahh now yes
22:17.59Markinusmoment
22:18.00GNUtoomickeyl, don't know...someone made it work?
22:18.02cr2_Markinus: what do you get if you do AT+Q3GNCELL in linux ?
22:18.06GNUtooleviathan, ping
22:18.06playdois going to sleep
22:18.32mickeylGNUtoo: the class device gets created, but max_brightness is missing and when you echo a brightness value it doesn't change anything
22:18.40mickeylit also no longer turns it off due to vblank
22:18.42Markinusphh: http://pastebin.com/m5ef6cc11
22:18.51GNUtoomickeyl, that's what I had when testing leviathan's backlight work
22:18.57GNUtoomickeyl, ah
22:19.12phhMarkinus: that's better.
22:19.30phhno arm9 reset then
22:19.37GNUtoowhat do you mean by vblank(I know it's an ioctl like FBIO_VBLANK or something like that)
22:19.53GNUtoowhat were the changes that made it not turn off?
22:20.08mickeylno idea
22:20.21mickeylthe framebuffer console has a builtin timeout
22:20.25phhMarkinus: for me it's time to go to sleep, but tomorrow I'll make you try android's libgps + some workaround
22:20.26GNUtoook
22:20.31cr2_phh: btw [DFVM] TCXO lock 7, 0x4d0400
22:20.33mickeylit talks to the backlight to turn if off after a while
22:20.42mickeylso one can see that the led is fully off
22:20.51mickeylwith the new backlight there's still some dim light shining
22:20.56mickeylso the power is not off
22:21.16mickeylsuspend/resume didn't work here either, btw.
22:21.20cr2_mickeyl: there is GP_CLK pwm, and some enable gpio ?
22:21.22mickeylit just booted into android
22:21.27Markinusphh: Okay, the good night!
22:21.30Markinusn
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22:21.35adamwnight phh
22:22.11mickeylcr2_: probably. http://gitorious.org/htc-msm-2-6-32/leviathan-incoming/commit/c724c8cb6204e3e451258ebbc23b0a8c15a54503 is not fully working
22:22.13GNUtoomickeyl, I thought you didn't want to boot under android
22:22.17GNUtoook
22:22.20mickeylGNUtoo: i didn't
22:22.23mickeylbut i wanted to suspend
22:22.27mickeyland instead of resuming
22:22.27GNUtoook
22:22.28mickeylit booted
22:23.13GNUtoook
22:24.50cr2_mickeyl: i guess that on brightness=0 it should lower the gpio too
22:25.00pitillohello, does someone know if the linwizard kernel works fine on elf and prophet? Seems to be supported but no tester
22:25.01cr2_mickeyl: not only the pwm
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22:25.32cr2_pitillo: it should, but there may be some small problems
22:25.55pitillocr2_: do you know wich kind of problems?
22:26.28cr2_pitillo: the core omap850 config is the same, but there are some gpio, keymap & such differences.
22:28.06pitillocr2_: thank you for the tips. I will read about gpio and others. Not sure about the keymap diferences if both are "keyboardless"
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22:30.50adamwpitillo: they still have buttons, right?
22:31.03GNUtooleviathan, piiiing
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22:33.48pitilloadamw: yes, thank you for clarify
22:34.00adamwpitillo: they'll probably be mapped as keys, for android.
22:34.15adamwer, linux in general, sorry.
22:34.30pitilloadamw: yes
22:35.36pitillobut I mean, that's at userland, not in kernel no?
22:35.59adamwi think it's in kernel too, but not sure. best not tell you something that may be wrong :)
22:36.54pitilloadamw: I really don't know either, I have taken a look to linwizard and seems to be the same kernel for both devices
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22:38.21pitillothe keys will generate codes that will be mapped to somethine (but I thought that at device level, will be the same for both, elf and prophet, both are opmap85)0
22:40.48adamwi guess you'd be write
22:40.50adamwer, right
22:41.04IceBoneOk, SGA over, let's DO THIS!
22:41.42IceBoneHmm... RUU is saying It'll update 2.11.Gen.Y (normal rom) to 1.00.25.05... is this right?
22:41.55IceBoneI want to update the radio.
22:41.58pitilloI will try to contact with linwizard people if I make any progress with tests, sorry if I disturbed here with a question related to another project
22:42.14adamwIceBone: it should have some tick marks to say what exactly will be updated
22:42.19pitilloadamw: thank you for your answers :)
22:42.29adamwIceBone: as long as the one next to the 'system' (or whatever it's called) isn't ticked it's ok
22:42.37adamwmight be on the next screen, i forget
22:43.00IceBoneIt says: From: Image Version: 2.11. Gen.Y
22:43.05IceBoneTo: Image Version: 1.00.25.05
22:43.22IceBoneAnd then: You are ready to update your ROM image.
22:43.25IceBoneNothing about system.
22:43.31adamwthat's all? erf. must be different on your device.
22:43.41adamwi think it should be fine, but if you're not sure, check on the thread or whatever.
22:43.47IceBonehttp://modmydiamond.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15&Itemid=26 <-- it's exactly like here
22:44.02tmztpitillo: it's the same kernel, different mtypes and some params
22:44.02IceBoneExcept it says it'll replace the winmo rom with the radio rom.
22:44.05BoydellIceBone: what are you trying to do?
22:44.11IceBoneUpdate the radio on my diamond.
22:44.26IceBonephh assumed that that's why the camera looked like it was on acid.
22:44.33pitillotmzt: thank you very much, I will look for the propper mtypes for both.
22:44.36IceBonehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6bUjpKkYM0
22:44.41adamwoh - I think the screen showing what's going to be updated shows up on the phone, not the windows system. and it's only if you're flashing on the phone, probably.
22:44.45Boydellcamera in android?
22:44.51tmztpitillo: it should work, you can also ask in #linwizard
22:44.52IceBoneNo, winmo.
22:44.56IceBoneDoesn't work in android yet.
22:44.56Boydellwtf
22:44.57tmztprophet is omap?
22:45.02Boydellyah thats what i thought
22:45.08adamwi usually do my rom flashes in the phone since i run linux so i forgot it'd be different doing it from windows.
22:45.19IceBoneWell, here goes nothing.
22:45.21Boydellbut radio version shouldnt have anything to do with camera..
22:45.33adamwBoydell: apparently it does. phh says everything goes through the radio.
22:45.38tmztif the gpio is a vreg why not use that api?
22:45.45pitillotmzt: thank you, I will ask there better. Sorry for the noise.
22:45.49IceBoneRadio: The radio stack is responsible for the phone functionality of the device. This includes GPRS, GSM, UMTS, and GPS operations as well as camera functionality. The version you use depends on who your carrier is as users have reported versions working better on one carrier than the other. The wiki pages contain the latest versions available to download and install.
22:46.12Boydellwow
22:46.24IceBoneI know, I was confused by that as well.
22:46.33IceBoneI thought radio only handled the wireless transmissions.
22:46.35BoydellI've been bugging makkonen to update his
22:46.42Boydellbut he is too lazy
22:46.51Boydellthats what i wouuld have thought too
22:47.03fleixiusthe htc_battery_smem.fake just forces the device into thinkin its charging all of the time right?
22:47.07IceBoneI'm updating to the same version as I have on right now. Maybe reloading it will fix it.
22:47.15IceBoneIf not, I'll change.
22:47.46IceBonedoodeedoo... stuck at 95%...
22:49.14adamwcongratulations on your new brick :P
22:49.18IceBoneOK, booted up.
22:49.21IceBoneSame error.
22:49.29Captnoordre
22:50.16IceBoneOk, downloading 1.00.25.06
22:50.39BoydellIceBone: what carrier are you?
22:50.59IceBoneMobitel Slovenia.
22:51.07Boydellwtf
22:51.14Boydellnever heard of that lol
22:51.22adamwyes other countries have cellphones too :P
22:51.23IceBoneWell, it's Slovenian, I'd be surprised if you had.
22:51.31tmztguessing it's in slovenia
22:51.37Boydelladamw: I know they do!
22:51.41Boydellusually better too
22:51.48IceBoneThe only multinational one is Vodafone.
22:51.54IceBoneBut that one sucks.
22:52.10IceBoneWth this one we get unlocked phones, even on plans.
22:52.12BoydellHa. You would think a multinational one would be better
22:52.13adamwnice.
22:52.19Boydellthat is nice
22:52.39IceBoneThey don't bother doing anything, they just sell them with another piece of paper.
22:52.55IceBoneCurrently the Diamond is 1 euro if you buy it with a 44 euro a month plan.
22:52.58IceBoneFor 2 yeras.
22:52.59IceBoneyears*
22:53.07Boydelljesus
22:53.16Boydellthat not bad
22:53.17IceBoneBut that covers unlimited everything.
22:53.24Boydellwow
22:53.43BoydellI pay 50 canadian a month
22:53.48Boydelland its a pretty shitty plan
22:54.12Boydelland i paid 300 for the phone when it came out on a 3 year plan
22:54.52ToAsTcfhphh: u ever look at camera?
22:55.00IceBonehttp://www.mobitel.si/telefoni-in-naprave/aparati.aspx?mo=0&te=0
22:55.29IceBoneHero's 209 euro with the 44 euro plan.
22:55.43chamonixBoydell: if you want to test there's a new version with a few improvements
22:55.44IceBoneBut my plan's got another year to go...
22:55.46IceBoneSo I wait.
22:55.49Boydell2 years again?
22:55.54IceBoneYes.
22:55.58Boydellchamonix: sure. is it APK?
22:55.58IceBoneI always take those plans anyway.
22:56.04chamonixyes
22:56.07IceBoneThat way I get a new phone every 2 years.
22:56.23Boydellk. so copy it to the application folder and create a new data.img?
22:56.49chamonixI'm still having a hard time detecting that an SMS was read tho, I tried to work it around by closing the effect when u open the notification
22:57.02IceBoneHmm... one question about aps (just caught a glimpse of a convo in xda-devs)... why are some apps cropped on the diamond?
22:57.22IceBoneBars on left and right in portrait mode.
22:57.31chamonixBoydell: no need, just load the APK with your browser and install it using the package manager or use adb install -r <apk>
22:57.33Boydell:S
22:57.51Boydellok
22:57.54Boydellsend it over
22:58.13IceBoneRadio 1.00.25.06 same error.
22:58.17Boydellby the way, its just something that "runs" in the backround right?
22:58.21chamonixBoydell: it's here: http://pjottrr.no-ip.org:81/redmine/boards/1/topics/show/136
22:58.36chamonixBoydell: yes it's a service
22:59.01chamonixit has a GUI but only for editing prefs
22:59.09Boydellah ok
22:59.10IceBoneI just try these until I find a working one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407956
22:59.53chamonixBoydell: it would be great if you could post your findings / requests / suggestions in the forum
23:00.19Boydellhrm which forum?
23:00.24Boydellthere are so many now
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23:00.43chamonixBoydell: where the APK is
23:01.27Boydellok
23:01.33chamonixcool
23:03.49BoydellHavent looked at it yet, but does the GUI have option to say, play with the LED's at will?
23:04.13IceBoneTrying 1.00.25.07
23:04.57chamonixBoydell: you mean for showing all available effects? no but I can add that
23:05.47adamwis the LED stuff expected to work on all phones or just specific ones?
23:06.01Boydellthat would be nice. That way, if an LED eveny DOES get stuck on, we can manually use the GUI to turn it off
23:06.18Boydells/eneny/event
23:08.44IceBoneAnd same old...
23:09.27IceBoneCould this may be not a radio issue?
23:09.34IceBonemay not be*
23:09.42adamwROM issue?
23:09.54IceBoneNo, tried 3 different ones already, they all do the same.
23:09.58adamwoh.
23:10.00IceBoneTried 3 radio roms, same.
23:10.02adamwcamera's bust? heh
23:10.06Boydellchamonix: it constantly breathes? is this because of the charging status?
23:10.09IceBoneIt's both cams.
23:10.12IceBoneFront and back.
23:10.19adamwyou're not making this easy!
23:10.35adamwas a professional QA person my considered opinion is that it's fuckin' broken
23:10.39IceBoneGonna try an older one.
23:10.51IceBoneIt also fixes itself for a few seconds once in a blue moon.
23:11.04IceBoneAnd then goes back on its acid trip.
23:11.08adamwuh. wasn't there a very odd issue like that for one of the official android phones once?
23:11.11adamwit's definitely ringing a bell
23:11.16Boydellhave you tried giving it a good kick?
23:11.17adamwgoes searching
23:11.25adamwoh yeah, percussive maintenance is always a good technique
23:11.26IceBoneDropped it on the floor a few times.
23:11.33IceBoneUnintentionally, of course, but shouldn't matter.
23:12.16adamwhttp://snapvoip.blogspot.com/2009/11/verizon-droid-camera-issue-it-is-date.html is what I was thinking of
23:12.23adamwwhich is crazy enough but not quite like yours.
23:13.17Markinusadamw: do you have time to do a small BT test with your Rhod?
23:13.27adamwMarkinus: sure
23:13.37adamwisn't BT handled through the same broadcom chip that should do wifi though?
23:13.47IceBoneTrying older version.
23:13.54Markinuswith my 1.6 build from today, I give you a new kernel . .  to replace
23:14.03tmztthat's HTCs code not Google's
23:14.23adamwMarkinus: so use that 1.6 you sent me to test the g-sensor but replace the kernel?
23:14.37Markinusyes
23:14.40adamwk
23:14.51IceBonehttp://www.americanapparel.net/storefront/UGCStyle/BestBottom2010/Browse.asp
23:14.54IceBone:O
23:15.25IceBoneI wish I could offer my services as a photographer to those buns... err... girls.
23:15.52Markinusadamw: http://www.multiupload.com/F7GBISF15F
23:16.22adamwMarkinus: why do you stick with 1.6 btw?
23:16.36Markinusyou can test such thinks much faster with 1.6
23:16.56Markinusand BT and 2.01 aren't frends  ..
23:17.00adamwah, ok.
23:17.14adamwlike I said, though, if wifi's different on topaz and rhodium, won't BT be different too?
23:17.37Markinusa bit yes, how much, I don't know
23:17.58IceBoneOlder rom still same.
23:18.06IceBoneI'm beginning to suspect this isn't a rom issue.
23:18.08adamwokay, i'll try it.
23:18.18IceBoneI'll just go back to 1.00.25.05.
23:18.23adamwi suspect the bcm4329 is supposed to do BT on rhodium as well, though, so it won't work until that driver's going
23:18.31tmztwhat's a rom issue?
23:18.42tmzt4329? is that bt3 capable?
23:18.42IceBoneradio rom
23:18.51tmztwhat's the issue?
23:18.58adamwtmzt: we're talking two different things here
23:19.03adamwtmzt: icebone's camera is nuts (in winmo)
23:19.07IceBonehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6bUjpKkYM0
23:19.10adamwand I'm testing some BT thing on rhodium for markinus
23:19.17IceBoneIt does that.
23:20.04IceBonePhh assumed it had to do with the radio rom. So far tried 1.00.25.03, 1.00.25.05, 1.00.25.06 and 1.00.25.07. All behave the same.
23:20.19adamwIceBone: have you tried taking a still and inverting the colors?
23:20.23BoydellIceBone: thats bad ass though
23:20.25IceBoneYeah, it's fucked up.
23:20.29IceBoneIt's not just inverted.
23:20.32adamwoh, so not just inverted. doh.
23:20.43tmztyou think camera is related to radio rom?
23:20.51adamwtmzt: phh says it is.
23:21.09tmztrather than camera dll or dsp modules
23:21.10Boydelladamw: haah blame it on phh
23:21.23tmztwe know how to split amss
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23:21.36IceBoneRadio: The radio stack is responsible for the phone functionality of the device. This includes GPRS, GSM, UMTS, and GPS operations as well as camera functionality. <-- from the thread about updating roms on the diamond
23:21.47tmztso that at least should be testable
23:22.03IceBoneWhat else can I try?
23:22.36Markinusadamw: hmm, the chip is good, Wlan n, BT 2.1, FM . .
23:23.02adamwMarkinus: yeah, the only downside of an all-in-one chip is that when it doesn't work, EVERYTHING doesn't work :P
23:23.07adamwMarkinus: i'm just lucky it doesn't do the cellular radio too, haha
23:23.28Markinusha
23:23.35Captnoordlol..... and of course I need a diff version of the android package... for the latest kernel...... as i'm still in leeching mode
23:24.00adamwMarkinus: oh, actually, it's a BCM4325 in the rhodium, not 4329
23:24.09adamwMarkinus: similar, though (I think the difference is just the FM function missing)
23:24.15adamwor wait, it says it has FM too. huh.
23:24.26adamwoh - no 802.11n.
23:24.42chamonixBoydell: yes
23:24.57Boydellyah
23:24.58Boydellok
23:25.02Boydellthats annoying lol
23:27.21BoydellIceBone: how long has your camera been like that?
23:28.02Markinuscan you pastebin your ramcolsole dump? dm.txt?
23:29.28IceBoneBoydell: day one
23:29.41adamwMarkinus: who, me?
23:29.53Markinusyeah :)
23:30.03adamwMarkinus: okay. oh damn I forgot to uncomment that in the startup.txt
23:30.04adamwjust a sec
23:30.08adamwhave to reboot it
23:31.28adamwis *so* glad he bought a microSD reader recently
23:34.29makkonenI've been meaning to order 10 of them from dealextreme
23:35.03adamwgot a 3.5" bay internal reader which does all sorts of memory cards plus eSATA for $11, nice deal
23:35.31Captnoordhehe you can stick all sorts of things in it then....
23:35.31Captnoordhehe
23:35.38adamwMarkinus: you need me to test anything within the booted system or just boot it up and then grab you dm.txt?
23:36.15Markinusdid you test BT? It's could be this is working ..
23:36.23adamwokay, i'll try turning it on and see what happens.
23:36.29Markinusthe dm.txt I need to to look
23:37.35Captnoordmakkonen: latest http://htcandroid.xland.cz stuff seems to spam my console with micropklt messages
23:37.42Captnoordcan you gimme some pointers
23:38.16CaptnoordI got some but they all result in 0xDEADBEEF
23:39.14adamwMarkinus: it just sits at 'turning on...'
23:39.34adamwsystem's still working (the clock ticks over and ringer volume buttons work) but nothing doing
23:39.59adamwi'll get the dm.txt
23:40.07makkonencaptnoord: what, the setting lcd-backlight brightness to 0x20 stuff?
23:40.22Markinusok, the start a second time to get the new dm.txt and then pastebin this please
23:40.42Captnoordsomething used micropklt_lcd_ctrl. This function shoulnd no longher be used
23:40.47Captnoordmessage
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23:41.01makkonenhuh.
23:41.34adamwMarkinus: http://fpaste.org/VSjb/ is the dmesg from the boot where i tried to turn on bt.
23:41.42Captnoorddefault XDANDROID.02.02.10.7z giving me this mess
23:41.45CaptnoordI can try again
23:41.54Captnoordto limit the errors from my side
23:42.07Captnoordformat sd
23:42.12Captnoordand give it another try
23:42.21adamwMarkinus: damn, it seems to jump from 212 to 6112
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23:43.19Captnoordrunning on a raph
23:44.12adamwMarkinus: btw, line 214 in that dmesg is the bcm4325 failing to start up
23:44.42Captnoordhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=601751&page=327
23:44.50Captnoordpeople who seems to have the same problem
23:44.55Markinusadamw: did you boot a second time? The dm.txt is every time drom the boot bevore . . can you boot one time more?
23:45.05adamwMarkinus: ooh. didn't know that. yup, i can boot once more.
23:45.39adamwoh i see - so when it boots up it grabs the remaining memory state where the dmesg dump from the LAST boot is and writes it out. cunning
23:49.57adamwMarkinus: http://fpaste.org/DQdC/
23:50.22adamwMarkinus: i would say that's it not working :P
23:51.11Captnoordmakkonen: yup.... out of the box I get uber spammed......
23:51.22Markinusyou had a crash . .
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23:52.03makkonencaptnoord: strange. I'm not sure where that's coming from. is this in your kernel log or just the console?
23:52.30Markinusdhd_module_init: sdio_register_driver failed
23:52.40Markinusadamw: this is the error message from driver
23:52.42Markinusisn't loaded
23:53.08Captnoordjust console
23:53.22adamwMarkinus: yes, that's the bcm4329 driver failing to start up
23:53.37adamwMarkinus: we haven't figured it out any further than that, though.
23:54.00Markinuswe need some thinks for the driver
23:54.08Markinusfirmware file ( I found it )
23:54.14Captnoordmakkonen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5533646&postcount=3264
23:54.15adamwMarkinus: i've tried building it as a module and loading it that way and you still just get the same error, no more details. that code is in ./drivers/net/wireless/bcm4329/dhd_linux.c if you want to look at it
23:54.17Markinusand the calibration file (don't have one )
23:54.18Captnoordthis post is related to that
23:54.21adamwMarkinus: I have the firmware file, in the correct place
23:54.35Markinusahh, ok
23:54.37adamwMarkinus: I ripped it out of the nexus one ROM IIRC
23:54.43adamwdon't think I put a calibration file in, though
23:55.05Markinusyou need both . .
23:55.25adamwlooks at the source again
23:55.29adamwcalibration file is /proc/calibration ?
23:55.40adamwlemme poke through the nexus one source and see if i can find something like that...
23:56.17Markinusyeah, we can change this . . .  is in the Nexus rom a nvram.txt file in /etc ?
23:57.00adamwno...
23:57.06adamwjust a sec, i'll fpaste the contents
23:57.26adamwMarkinus: http://fpaste.org/3Wa2/
23:57.31Markinuswhats under /lib/firmware/ ?
23:57.39adamwsee the paste
23:58.02adamwthere's no lib/firmware , the contents of etc/firmware are in the paste
23:58.08Markinusbcm4329.hcd
23:58.14Markinusthis could be
23:58.18Markinussize?
23:58.25adamw14172
23:58.28adamwi can send it to you if you like
23:58.58Markinussend both files please

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