IRC log for #htc-linux on 20100124

00:00.06babijoeemakes it feel low res
00:00.11babijoeei prefer 210 atleast
00:00.13babijoeelike raph
00:00.48stinebdthey only do that so old people can read the text
00:00.58chamonixlol read this: http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/01/22/xda-developers-enable-multitouch-for-nexus-ones-native-browser/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheBoyGeniusReport+%28Boy+Genius+Report%29
00:00.59babijoeethere should be option to change it XD
00:01.11chamonixseem some devs try to do PR
00:01.42stinebdthey took a screenshot of the youtube player, haha
00:01.49stinebdat least cut out the controls
00:04.12babijoeelol
00:05.13chamonixgee, it's been 2 hours and android is still building
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00:11.42chamonixbabijoee: do u know if the keyboard layouts that were provided in the build were made from source or edited as binaries?
00:11.59babijoeesource
00:12.24chamonixsweet.... who did them?
00:12.29babijoeeme and stinebd made them accordingly and then used a prog to convert it
00:12.42chamonixcool
00:12.59babijoeeall keys working for you?
00:13.09chamonixI ask because I'd like a querz instead of query
00:13.20chamonixwell, I haven't found | yet :)
00:13.37chamonixthe key I use the most
00:15.18chamonixand also I was wondering if the overwriting in init is really required... I thought android looks for the keaboard leyout based on device name
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00:17.31babijoeenope
00:17.40babijoeeit uses default if no custom is found
00:17.52babijoeeto make things easier we let the user decide
00:17.59chamonixkk
00:18.05babijoeeand then it copies the kb accordingly
00:18.19babijoeei dont really know how to detect from fuze, to raph kb
00:18.25babijoeeso we decided to do it that way
00:18.57chamonixright decision as it works like a charm
00:20.31babijoeeplus there are some mysterious raph's out there with diff layout
00:20.49babijoeeone day if me or stinebd can be bothered, we may port their kb
00:20.51babijoee:)
00:20.52chamonixI guess I have one of those, with a german kb :)
00:21.09babijoeeits not too hard
00:21.20babijoeesend me a pic
00:21.26babijoeei'll make it for you i guess
00:22.08babijoeespecial request :p
00:22.27chamonixthe problem with the german kb is that there is one key missing... mormal kbs have a key left to y with <>| on it and that key 's not there
00:23.12chamonixbut that could be move to sms/mms or email key
00:24.24babijoeehmm i havent seen german kb layout
00:25.32chamonixhttp://www.netzwelt.de/gallery/htc-touch-pro/htc-touch-pro3.jpg.html
00:25.51chamonixexcept z <> y
00:28.12chamonixI'd suggest sms/mms as "<" normal, ">" as shift and "|" as fn
00:32.18babijoeechamonix: you have same layout as generic raph
00:32.31babijoeeyou just want custom layout?
00:32.32chamonixexcept z <> z
00:32.42chamonixz <> y
00:32.50makkonenbabijoee: does the ctrl key work on your keyboard? on my raph800 it just sends ^@
00:33.13babijoeei dont use ctrl key
00:33.16babijoeei'll check though
00:33.31chamonixbabijoee: yes, some fancy way to get <>|{[]}\ to the keyboard :)
00:33.33babijoeechamonix: z <> z?
00:33.43babijoeeoooo
00:33.49chamonixnah, z <-> y
00:33.51chamonix:)
00:33.58chamonixits qwertz
00:34.02babijoeeso when you press z it comes out as y
00:34.16chamonixexact
00:34.36chamonixweird ppl who did this
00:35.58babijoeeI'd suggest sms/mms as "<" normal, ">" as shift and "|" as fn? how will you use FN?
00:36.47chamonixI meant fn+sms -> |
00:36.52babijoeeooo
00:36.53babijoeeah k
00:38.13babijoeechamonix: you have adb?
00:38.21chamonixyes
00:38.24babijoeekool
00:38.41chamonixcan't run it now tho, I'm in the middle of a battery test :)
00:38.50chamonix12 hours and ticking
00:38.52babijoeeoh shiz
00:39.51chamonixlol, those test are getting harder and harder as the battery life increases
00:40.03babijoeeinteresting as i remember someone pushed a commit due to Y not working or not being correctly mapped
00:40.10babijoeei wonder if that has anything to do with it
00:40.15babijoeewas it ever working chamonix ?
00:40.48chamonixyou mean z at the right place? nah, has always been inverted with y
00:40.58babijoeehmmm
00:40.59babijoeeok
00:41.31babijoeedamn i need you to adb
00:41.33babijoeeXD
00:41.35chamonixat least as long as run donut/eclair on my phone
00:41.59babijoeeall it requires is one simple swap
00:42.04chamonixlol
00:42.21babijoeehow about capitals?
00:42.27babijoeedoes it go upper case too?
00:42.50chamonixnever tried, shift works but I'm afrai I never use caps
00:42.58babijoeei mean uppercase
00:43.19chamonixme too
00:43.24babijoeeah k
00:43.41babijoeeok
00:43.54chamonixshifting a does A, but I never tried set it to uppercase with the "caps" key
00:43.58babijoeeyou doing battery life testing for nand
00:43.59babijoee?
00:44.03chamonixyes
00:44.09babijoeehow long now?
00:44.13chamonix12
00:44.17babijoeeooo
00:44.24babijoeeand whats the % now
00:44.35chamonixabove 15%
00:44.39babijoeeokay
00:44.46babijoeedid you say adb works with nand
00:44.46babijoee?
00:44.53chamonixsure
00:44.58babijoeeooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
00:44.58chamonixI would be lost without
00:45.05babijoeei would think so XD
00:45.23chamonixI even updated system using adb and android running yesterday
00:45.33babijoeewoah
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00:47.00chamonixlooked weird for a second but after reboot it went fine, only refused to uverwrite su
00:47.06chamonixoverwrite*
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00:47.44Boydelljesus, that register thing was annoying
00:48.19makkonenthe spammers were more so.
00:48.20babijoeeBoydell: yeah the system was attacked with spam
00:56.12Boydellthat is true
00:57.03Boydellmakkonen: can I be a committer on your repo? I seem to be keeping up with the updates and stuff right now, as I am jobless and have no life :P
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01:00.20makkonenheh. sure, I guess so. I am finally getting down to working on it for the first time all week.
01:00.59BoydellWell, I have them all, once i figure out  how to push I can do that for you
01:01.50chamonixwow, I finally got a system.img :)
01:01.52makkonenoh, I've got 'em ready to push... I'm just hesitant to push stuff before I've tested it a bit, because I like it to look clean. and I'm always a little afraid of breaking something.
01:02.06makkonenchamonix: yeah. my method was to start it, then go to bed.
01:02.41chamonixmakkonen: I tried that but it kept aborting
01:02.52Boydellah ok, well, it seems right now wifi is broke?
01:02.54makkonenhuh.
01:03.04makkonenboydell: not on my end.
01:03.20chamonixI got segfaults en masse
01:03.32chamonixat least 3-4 times
01:03.36Boydellare you using the jan 22 package from XDANDROID?
01:03.45makkonenno, still on jan 16
01:03.49chamonixnite guys
01:03.53makkoneng'night
01:03.57Boydellnight
01:04.08makkonentrying not to change too many variables at the same time.
01:04.09Boydellit may be the ROOTFS than from the 22nd
01:05.03makkonenpushed all the new commits, plus a new attempt to get the battery a little closer to reality.
01:05.16Boydellok
01:05.43Boydellplus made me a commiter ;)
01:06.41makkonennow things get complicated. I like it... git is good. I'm learning. All positive stuff.
01:07.36BoydellWell I'm not goin commit unless I've tested myself too...I know the feeling, I just dont want to make my own repo when there is already one there..
01:08.07babijoeeBoydell: i removed the new rootfs.img due to thinking it was casuing problems.
01:08.18babijoeesomething in the kernel is breaking it
01:08.24makkonenyeah, that'd be silly. I feel like mine is silly at this point, too... all that's really different is the config and a few changes that should probably be pushed upstream. (keyboard, battery)
01:08.44Boydellbabijoee: you mean the jan 22 rootfs?
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01:08.51babijoeeall of them
01:09.02babijoeethey dont affect turning on / off wifi
01:09.11babijoeethe latest one applies wpa and vpn fixes
01:09.11Boydellmakkenon: yah its true, but, there are some differences, and we need to test them
01:09.29Boydellbabijoee: mine turns on and everything, it just wont ever connect..
01:09.38babijoeei'll put it back on with a fix to auto disable wifi on boot
01:09.57babijoeeBoydell: could be your router? try turning it on and off?
01:10.01babijoeesometimes that works for me
01:10.06Boydellhave
01:10.12babijoeenew data.img?
01:10.32Boydelltrying to connect to different router too...but yah thats my next step..
01:10.40Boydellwas there something wrong with wifi in the jam 22 rootfs?
01:10.53babijoeei'm thinking of completely making the build clean
01:10.56babijoeeremoving most apps
01:11.05babijoeeand putting them in the AndroidApps
01:11.17Boydellput in better terminal is my only request
01:11.21babijoeeand letting the user copy + paste from another folder rather putting them in androidapps
01:11.36babijoeei mean all debug programs will still be there
01:11.57babijoeethis should make things easier
01:12.13babijoeeand make things easier to pinpoint
01:12.29Boydelltrue i guess
01:13.37Boydellok makk, now if i want to push up a commit..?
01:18.03Boydellnvm, i think i figured it out....
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01:43.57Boydelllooks like the new data.img fixed wifi, also it rebooted when turning off..
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17:01.23lucxphh are you?
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17:20.34phhlucx: I am
17:21.35otminhi
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17:22.23otminCan someone help me?
17:22.35otminIs there a way to use linux with ipod nano?
17:22.47phhis trying to see the link with the channel
17:23.07otminYou need the site?
17:23.20phhthe channel is #*htc*-linux
17:23.22otminI'll paste it to u if you cant see it
17:23.25phhI just can't see any link with htc.
17:23.38otminTopic is 'Welcome to htc-linux | Project homepage and wiki http://htc-linux.org | Livelogs: http://irclog.netripper.com/?chan=htc-linux | Logs: http://apt.rikers.org/%23htc-linux | htc-linux is not android'
17:23.45otminIs it in there?
17:23.59phhwhat's the link between HTC and an iPod ?
17:24.04otmino.O
17:24.23otminI must be in wrong linux channel sry
17:24.41otminShould I try linux programming in searchirc?
17:25.01otminI have tried looking up linux newbie
17:25.34otminand it came up with this
17:25.46lucxphh i dont know how to build android with custom rild, can you help me?
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17:43.37babijoeehi guys
17:44.53mickeylmorning babijoee
17:46.32phhchamonix: you got dropbear working ?
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17:52.40babijoeethanks chamonix for the pm :)
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17:54.50phhchamonix: http://husson.hd.free.fr/Image + http://husson.hd.free.fr//modules-2.6.27-00791-gd52eb08.tar.gz
17:54.54phhfor an updated kernel + its modules
17:55.01phh(especially for the modules actually :p)
17:56.12phhcr2_: found anything for FM ?
17:57.06phhwell it's more about "written anything" than found
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18:22.04babijoeedamn noobs on xda
18:22.28babijoeei seriously thought some of them actually finally understood how Android works
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18:22.32babijoeei was sooooo wrong
18:22.36babijoee:'(
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18:53.13chamonixphh: yes ty :) I just have to figure out how/where to store my pubkeys and authorized_keys
18:53.41tmztfor dropbear?
18:53.47chamonixyes
18:54.02tmztI think it's /etc/dropbear and /car/lib/dropbear
18:54.08tmztoh for user
18:54.19tmzt~/.ssh I think
18:55.08chamonixlol, well the question would be where is ~/.ssh on the phone? :)
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19:09.52tmztchamonix: what's your user account? in android that might not work
19:10.07tmztso it would need $HOME set
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19:33.03chamonix:-/ Permission denied (publickey).
19:33.23makkonenphh: this calibration code... doesn't actually have any function to feed the coordinates that are read into the device? It's not using calibration_points... is it using something else? I don't even see how to get the coordinates in a readable state... it's pulling them from /dev/input/event3... and I know that's good data, cuz I can see it in getevent, but how does it get parsed by the program?
19:34.01makkonenI think I can get it working, if I can figure out how to turn the output from event3 into the x and y coordinates
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19:42.11chamonixphh: did u patch dropbear for fake-getpwnam?
19:50.17GNUtoohi leviathan,what's the rule for gnuconform? remove all android and ifdefs?
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20:34.34phh[20:49:48] <chamonix> phh: did u patch dropbear for fake-getpwnam? <---- ah. no
20:34.51phh[20:00:50] <chamonix> phh: yes ty :) I just have to figure out how/where to store my pubkeys and authorized_keys <----- /etc/dropbear iirc
20:35.19phhmakkonen: it seems you misunderstood the calibration stuff
20:35.20cr2_phh: didn't look at it
20:35.26phhmakkonen: it's 99% done in kernel
20:35.33phheverything but drawing actually
20:35.37makkonenphh: that seems likely.
20:36.00makkonen(my misunderstanding things)
20:36.01phhyou just have to display dots some explaining text, and say to kernel that you're using this point
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20:47.19makkonenok. well, as it stands, it's definitely not passing the data to the kernel driver correctly. I get the same effect no matter where I click, or if I even skip running the calibrate program entirely and just 'echo 1 > /sys/class/input/input3/calibration' -- it just makes the calibration go to one default state, where it's flipped along both axes.
20:48.09ToAsTcfhare u  guys still using squashfs?
20:49.39makkonenyes
20:50.39ToAsTcfhoh just wondering. seen something about it being discontenued on glemstorms site.
20:51.59makkonenhuh
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21:42.41Boydellworking on the Fn and CAPS leds :)
21:45.06makkonenworkin' on calibration and willing the colts to lose.
21:45.32Boydellahha
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22:16.10Boydellthere isnt any source code for a phone with a keyboard is there?
22:16.51GNUtoo|oeeeBoydell, what do you mean?
22:17.26makkonenboydell: looks like there's source for the moment. http://opensource.samsungmobile.com/index.jsp
22:17.34Boydellwell HTC releases their souce code for some android phones, but is there code for one with a physical qwert keyboard?
22:19.09makkonenbut no, I don't think there's an htc android phone with a keyboard that has source you can look at.
22:19.18Boydellbah
22:19.53GNUtoo|oeeeBoydell, htcdream has a physical keyboard
22:20.18GNUtoo|oeeeBoydell, and there is source for some but not all the parts
22:20.31Boydellthe canadian version yes, but thats the G! in US i think?
22:20.32makkonen...oh, right.
22:20.33GNUtoo|oeeesuch as kernel drivers,but not userspace drivers
22:20.58makkonenthe dream is the g1, yes.
22:21.41Boydelland im almost sure the source will match up to the w/e the US name is
22:23.13stinebdbabijoee: lol, your posts on the thread... especially the reply to the guy whose camera isn't working
22:24.02Boydelltake a look at the microp_keypad driver, and look at the microp_keypad_led_event, is it just me, or will it always return -1?
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22:27.10stinebdit's just you
22:27.17stinebdnote the breaks
22:27.39Boydelli thought breaks just breaks out of the case...
22:27.46stinebdit does
22:27.49Boydellnot the entire function..
22:27.54stinebdthen below the switch statement is the return
22:28.03stinebdreturn micropksc_set_led(led, value);
22:28.07Boydellyah
22:28.16Boydellthen below that is return -1
22:28.33stinebdthat return -1 is outside of the conditional anyway
22:28.43stinebdbut the first return in the function is also the end of the function's execution
22:29.37stinebdi should say the first return that it runs into as it's executing will end the function's execution
22:29.53Boydellyah what am i thinking
22:29.56Boydellyour right
22:29.58Boydellbrain fart
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