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| 00:02.23 | herpez | phh to compile the kernel i need toolchain? |
| 00:02.30 | phh | yes .... |
| 00:02.42 | herpez | thanks |
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| 00:03.07 | ICEMANno1_ | k, booting android |
| 00:05.00 | herpez | phh - do i need to change anything to this tut? http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BuildTheRaphaelKernel |
| 00:05.14 | phh | replace 25 to 27 |
| 00:05.18 | phh | and use htc_msm_android_defconfig |
| 00:05.22 | phh | and change git's url |
| 00:05.28 | herpez | ok, thnks |
| 00:08.02 | ICEMANno1 | vawx: how long does a boot of phh's 2.0.1 take on your topaz? |
| 00:08.18 | phh | really long. |
| 00:08.27 | vawx | quite long |
| 00:08.31 | ICEMANno1 | k, same here :D |
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| 00:15.49 | phh | I HATE HEISENBUGS |
| 00:15.59 | ICEMANno1 | HEISENBUGS? |
| 00:16.16 | phh | bugs that disappear when debugging |
| 00:16.37 | ICEMANno1 | ahh, great |
| 00:16.43 | ICEMANno1 | i know what u mean :) |
| 00:25.32 | vawx | lol... phh i turned OFF usb debug mode in android and the device tried to install : HTC Remote NDIS based device on my pc |
| 00:25.53 | phh | rndis isn't linked to ad |
| 00:25.55 | phh | adb* |
| 00:26.05 | vawx | ok, what is it? |
| 00:26.10 | phh | usbnet |
| 00:26.23 | vawx | that explains why it appears in network adapters... |
| 00:27.15 | FuZi0n | lol |
| 00:27.17 | FuZi0n | heisenbugs |
| 00:28.26 | phh | i'm the only one to use this word ? |
| 00:29.22 | FuZi0n | i heard of it, never seen it being used before |
| 00:29.22 | FuZi0n | :P |
| 00:29.27 | phh | ah. |
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| 00:55.38 | herpez | phh - can u make a zimae using the build log from 24th? |
| 00:56.01 | phh | sure but why ? |
| 00:56.58 | herpez | because my idea if |
| 00:57.10 | herpez | to do the same build with the files from now (updated ones) |
| 00:57.32 | phh | ?!? |
| 00:57.40 | herpez | if the screen (which in 24th was good) still good, then, there wasnt the edited files that caused the screen trouble |
| 00:58.22 | herpez | i say this because from 24th to now, some files may have been changed/edited |
| 00:59.16 | phh | i still don't get it. |
| 01:01.25 | herpez | phh - let me see if i'm right.when u release a new zimage, you change not only the builded files, but you also change files inside right? |
| 01:01.28 | Battousai | mmm, my phone has been running long enough to drain the battery |
| 01:01.37 | Battousai | fantastic |
| 01:02.04 | phh | herpez: I change the source files, then I build the zImage with it .... |
| 01:04.11 | herpez | so, SOME files were edited/changed since 24th to now, right? |
| 01:05.25 | ali1234 | herpez do you know what git does? |
| 01:05.42 | ali1234 | not only will it tell you extactly what |
| 01:05.46 | phh | herpez: how do you want the kernel to change without changing the source files ?!? |
| 01:06.01 | ali1234 | changed but it will also assist you in compiling a kernel corresponding to each individual change |
| 01:07.14 | herpez | guys, its hard for me to explain, and for sure i have NO knowledge in this matter, so my thoughts are just logical but without knowledge. SO, i will try to explain by basic words my idea and hoe you follow |
| 01:07.30 | herpez | while using the zimage from day 24, my screen was good |
| 01:07.40 | herpez | when i say 24, its 24 or before |
| 01:07.53 | herpez | when i use from 26 or after, the screen is "bad" |
| 01:08.11 | ali1234 | yes, in other words, a regression |
| 01:08.15 | herpez | so, i thinked of this: |
| 01:08.38 | herpez | i saw the build logs from 24th and 26th and highlighted the differences |
| 01:08.51 | phh | ah the *logs* |
| 01:08.57 | herpez | and it showed me that to build 24 it were used some files |
| 01:09.02 | phh | it has no sense .... |
| 01:09.10 | ali1234 | build log is not useful |
| 01:09.14 | herpez | and to build 26, were used 98% of the same files |
| 01:09.24 | herpez | so, the problem is: |
| 01:09.32 | ali1234 | to compile a specific zimage you need the .config and git revision hash |
| 01:09.38 | ali1234 | you are using git, right? |
| 01:09.50 | herpez | or the "new/added" files messed with the screen |
| 01:10.03 | herpez | or the SAME files messed, but they were edited/changed |
| 01:10.15 | phh | yes.... and ? |
| 01:10.23 | phh | how does that help ? |
| 01:10.40 | herpez | that way, i wanted to recreate the 24th image (the working one) with the files from now, which some of them may have been edited since them |
| 01:11.10 | phh | ...... |
| 01:11.10 | phh | it just won't build. |
| 01:11.10 | ali1234 | herpez like i said git will do that for you interactively |
| 01:11.14 | herpez | if the screen goes bad, it means the problem is on the file sthat may have been edited and not on the new files added to the 26th build |
| 01:11.19 | phh | herpez: google git bissect. |
| 01:11.22 | herpez | ok |
| 01:11.26 | ali1234 | *bisect |
| 01:11.31 | phh | ah ? |
| 01:11.31 | herpez | as i dont have neither knowledge or experience |
| 01:11.43 | herpez | i can only talk by logically and its hard for me to explain |
| 01:11.48 | herpez | i will read that |
| 01:11.55 | herpez | to try to learn more |
| 01:12.05 | ali1234 | herpez we understand what you are saying, what you talk about is called bisecting |
| 01:12.11 | herpez | because all i know for now is "words" and not knowledge/experience |
| 01:12.15 | herpez | ok, thanks!!! |
| 01:12.43 | ali1234 | herpez git tracks each change individually |
| 01:13.05 | herpez | yes, im seing it right now |
| 01:13.12 | ali1234 | you tell it "revision 24 works" "revision 26 doesn't work" and it guides you through compiling kernels until you find which exact change broke it |
| 01:13.15 | herpez | so i need to bisect the 24tha nd 26th image |
| 01:13.26 | herpez | oh, such an help |
| 01:13.33 | ali1234 | yes, you need to find the git commit hash used for each kernel though |
| 01:13.36 | herpez | and to bisect, i need to have the files on my pc right? |
| 01:13.49 | herpez | i may find the commit hash in glemson page i guess |
| 01:13.54 | ali1234 | you need a compiler, and a copy of the git repo, and git |
| 01:14.04 | ali1234 | and know how to use them :) |
| 01:15.28 | MrPippy | phh: i reduced gpu0 to 7MB and put ramconsole at SMI+8MB, didn't work |
| 01:15.37 | phh | MrPippy: still garbage ? |
| 01:15.57 | MrPippy | its just wince stuff, starts with HTC_BOOT V2 a few times |
| 01:16.54 | phh | MrPippy: anyway, the HSPL would be btter, that might help flashing |
| 01:17.13 | herpez | ali, i am downloading all the git master repo |
| 01:17.20 | herpez | which is running since 1h |
| 01:17.30 | MrPippy | you mean reading it from SPL? |
| 01:17.37 | phh | Radix_: yup |
| 01:17.55 | phh | MrPippy: * |
| 01:17.57 | herpez | then i will download some more repos used to compile thos images |
| 01:18.18 | ali1234 | herpez it is big because it contains every change ever made to linux (all architectures) since they started using git |
| 01:18.30 | herpez | about 2gb i guess |
| 01:18.39 | Captnoord | ali1234: I consider it small |
| 01:18.56 | Captnoord | compared to every other source control system |
| 01:18.57 | ali1234 | herpez normally you would clone the base from a fast mirror of kernel.org and then add whatever repo you actually want as a remote |
| 01:18.57 | Captnoord | :P |
| 01:19.11 | phh | ali1234: gitorious is fast iirc |
| 01:19.12 | herpez | then i will use git bisect and i guess if i miss something, he will warn me :) |
| 01:19.48 | ali1234 | phh: sure, the point is, you can clone *any* linux tree even if it has nothing to do with htc stuff, that's the way git is designed to work |
| 01:20.20 | phh | yes |
| 01:20.20 | ali1234 | then you add your htc repo as a remote |
| 01:20.20 | phh | gitorious is were the current kernel tree is :p |
| 01:20.20 | phh | that's what i meant. |
| 01:20.27 | ali1234 | i see |
| 01:20.28 | tmzt | phh: what's the progress? |
| 01:20.38 | phh | tmzt: none today |
| 01:20.53 | tmzt | ali1234: you can also reference a local tree |
| 01:21.05 | tmzt | or add a local remote if you want a fast copy |
| 01:21.13 | tmzt | (hard linked) |
| 01:21.20 | ali1234 | herpez: learn how to just compile a zimage first, bisect is advanced git stuff, plus you need to install cross compiler and all that jazz |
| 01:21.31 | herpez | ali1234 - next i will download htc-msm-2.6.27 and i think its all |
| 01:21.40 | herpez | yes, i started today to read |
| 01:21.47 | tmzt | no, linux-msm |
| 01:21.50 | herpez | and to put work in the hands, but just today |
| 01:22.19 | herpez | i thought it were htc-msm ... :s |
| 01:22.35 | phh | the branch s htc-msm-2.6.27 |
| 01:22.37 | phh | the tree is linux-msm |
| 01:25.39 | herpez | but i need to download just the branch to compile the zimage i gues.. |
| 01:26.12 | ali1234 | once you have cloned some repo, git only downloads the differences from remotes |
| 01:26.27 | ali1234 | so you can quickly get another branch/repo whatever |
| 01:29.20 | herpez | ok, i guess i need to worki with it to know it better |
| 01:29.25 | herpez | and then, make the questions |
| 01:29.32 | herpez | maybe now its too soon... |
| 01:33.34 | herpez | Just one question about gip bisect. Can it use more than 2 files? |
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| 01:33.56 | herpez | for example, can i say "him" that those 2 worked and those 2 didnt work? |
| 01:34.17 | herpez | because if so, it would restrict the problem possibilities... |
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| 01:48.35 | DarkMasterHalo | Can one of you guys explain to me or direct me to a website where it explains how the kernel knows what module to load, I still don't undertstand that part. I mean, when it boots, how does it know what driver to load. Or it loads every single driver (I don't think it is doing that though) |
| 01:49.37 | DarkMasterHalo | I'm kind of confused :) |
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| 02:16.57 | ToAsTcfh | is phh still around?! |
| 02:17.17 | DarkMasterHalo | I think he is busy right now. But he's still connected though |
| 02:17.51 | ToAsTcfh | phh: check u mail i sent some utility i found in a htc dump |
| 02:18.29 | ToAsTcfh | i think they are some utilities htc uses to test and debug |
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| 02:26.17 | randomblame | seen vladone |
| 02:27.23 | randomblame | slow git servers cramp my style |
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| 02:38.32 | herpez | guys, do u know if zimages config files are inside the zimages? |
| 02:40.54 | randomblame | ew herpies |
| 02:40.59 | randomblame | no I don't know |
| 02:41.24 | randomblame | don't even know what you're talking about :D |
| 02:42.29 | randomblame | all the configuring I've done is precompile |
| 02:42.31 | MrPippy | it is, theres a script to pull the config file out |
| 02:43.31 | randomblame | it must be nice to have a functional kernel ... |
| 02:45.56 | herpez | MrPippy, do u know what one? |
| 02:46.57 | MrPippy | scripts/extract-ikconfig |
| 02:47.08 | MrPippy | run it from the root of a kernel tree and give it the pathname to a zImage |
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| 02:48.58 | herpez | MrPippy i didnt undertsand well. I have an zimage on my pc |
| 02:49.07 | herpez | can i extract or i need to boot with in in android? |
| 02:49.47 | MrPippy | you don't have to boot it, but you need a linux pc and a kernel source tree (version doesn't matter) |
| 02:50.09 | MrPippy | if booting it is easier, i'm pretty sure you can get the config that way also |
| 02:50.22 | herpez | no, i prefer without boot |
| 02:50.26 | herpez | i have linux |
| 02:50.37 | ali1234 | you'll have to wait until the repo finishes cloning |
| 02:50.57 | herpez | ah, ok, i was wondering whats a kernel source tree |
| 02:50.59 | herpez | now i know |
| 02:51.17 | randomblame | what does that particular config file control? |
| 02:51.22 | herpez | i guess linux will compare the zimage with all the tree and make a reverse config file |
| 02:52.01 | MrPippy | nah the zImage has the config file in it, just in case you need it again |
| 02:52.53 | AstainHellbring | hi how goes it |
| 02:53.47 | randomblame | hihi |
| 02:54.13 | herpez | MrPippy, but to extract the zimage, i need to have the kernel source tree, i cant do without it... |
| 02:54.47 | randomblame | couldn't he just use that script without the source tree |
| 02:54.58 | herpez | i wish i could, can i? |
| 02:57.29 | MrPippy | well...the script comes with the source tree |
| 02:57.41 | randomblame | :D |
| 02:57.44 | MrPippy | do you have a slow internet connection? |
| 02:57.44 | randomblame | I have a copy |
| 02:57.58 | randomblame | I linked it to you herpez |
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| 02:58.24 | randomblame | git.linuxtogo is being freaking slow |
| 02:58.31 | randomblame | 39kib/s |
| 02:58.57 | DarkMasterHalo | I'm currently download their whole website :P (Joke inside) |
| 02:59.20 | randomblame | do you not have dcc enabled herpez |
| 03:00.35 | MrPippy | if all you want is the script you can just get a linux tree tgz from kernel.org or something |
| 03:00.55 | MrPippy | what device is this zimage for? |
| 03:02.16 | herpez | blackstone |
| 03:02.24 | herpez | is from glemson |
| 03:02.34 | herpez | i have now the kernel |
| 03:02.42 | herpez | so i think its easier |
| 03:02.58 | herpez | now i just need the htc-msm-2.6.27 |
| 03:03.05 | herpez | im trying to download it |
| 03:03.36 | Shadowline | hey herpez |
| 03:03.39 | Shadowline | :P |
| 03:04.39 | herpez | hey |
| 03:06.30 | herpez | randomblame pvt |
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| 03:48.14 | Battousai | wish gps were working |
| 03:48.30 | Battousai | i'm gonna be wandering aimlessly around manhattan tomorrow and could use gmaps nav |
| 03:48.44 | randomblame | gps is for girls |
| 03:49.06 | Battousai | then slap a wig on me and call me susan |
| 03:49.54 | randomblame | well susan it should still work on winmo :D |
| 03:50.11 | randomblame | painfull i know |
| 03:50.24 | Battousai | yes :( |
| 03:50.55 | Battousai | i wonder if att 3g will be working though |
| 03:51.02 | Battousai | nyc on new years eve |
| 03:51.13 | randomblame | in manhattan? doubtful |
| 03:51.31 | Battousai | i was there for the last iphone release and it was holding up pretty well for some reason |
| 03:51.41 | Battousai | of course i wasn't actually there for an iphone |
| 03:51.59 | randomblame | I'm stuck in win mo for a long long time I fear |
| 03:52.12 | randomblame | we finally have a working debug fb though thats something |
| 03:52.48 | Battousai | once the basics get going it's all momentum |
| 03:53.21 | randomblame | it's much easier to problem solve using an lcd rather than blinking the freakin led |
| 03:53.50 | Battousai | my tv remote begs to differ |
| 03:54.01 | randomblame | that frame buffer was all I wanted for christmas lol |
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| 04:34.48 | randomblame | woot |
| 04:37.01 | surgex | hey does anyone here speak italian? |
| 04:38.00 | randomblame | it's not personal, it's business |
| 04:38.21 | randomblame | that kind of italian? |
| 04:38.22 | randomblame | lol |
| 04:38.27 | surgex | lol |
| 04:38.29 | surgex | no no |
| 04:38.31 | Battousai | you coulda been a contender tony |
| 04:38.55 | randomblame | you may ask me one favor on this the day of my daughters wedding |
| 04:39.46 | randomblame | well I finally got a fresh kernel downloaded |
| 04:39.49 | randomblame | that took a year |
| 04:39.59 | randomblame | now I shall make a backup so I don't have to do that again |
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| 05:25.31 | herpez | hi. how can i download the htc-msm-2.6.27 branch? |
| 05:25.38 | herpez | i do git checkout -b htc-msm-2.6.27 origin/htc-msm-2.6.27 |
| 05:25.47 | herpez | but it says there isnt |
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| 05:54.26 | randomblame | herpez you have to cd into the kernel folder :D |
| 05:54.57 | randomblame | it's a subfolder within the kernel folder you just created to hold the source :D |
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| 10:26.26 | QAH | Hello! Anyone in here? I need some help. |
| 10:27.12 | QAH | I am trying to boot android on my HTC Diamond. Everything started up fine, but it is taking forever to load. |
| 10:27.35 | QAH | How long does it ususally take for the first boot? It has been like 7 minutes already. |
| 10:27.54 | QAH | I just see a blank screen with a little white dash in the upper left. |
| 10:28.41 | itchy8me | QAH.. reset it and try again |
| 10:28.46 | Captnoord | QAH: have patience |
| 10:28.52 | Captnoord | first time takes a bit long |
| 10:29.21 | Captnoord | you can find a complete package at |
| 10:29.22 | QAH | How can I tell if it is hung or not? |
| 10:29.22 | Captnoord | http://connect-utb.com/ |
| 10:29.26 | Captnoord | which works |
| 10:29.29 | Captnoord | there is a way |
| 10:29.33 | Captnoord | but very time consuming |
| 10:29.40 | Captnoord | best thing todo |
| 10:29.51 | Captnoord | is download the android 2.0 package from connect utb |
| 10:29.59 | QAH | That little white dash in the upper left goes of every once in a while and comes back on |
| 10:30.14 | QAH | Where can I get that package? |
| 10:30.20 | Captnoord | on that website |
| 10:30.24 | Captnoord | download |
| 10:30.26 | Captnoord | !!!!! |
| 10:30.28 | QAH | Can you give me a direct link? |
| 10:30.39 | Captnoord | damn you..... |
| 10:30.50 | Captnoord | CAN'T YA DO SOMETHING yourself |
| 10:30.51 | QAH | Well, I will get it myself |
| 10:30.54 | Captnoord | its on the freaking front page |
| 10:30.55 | Captnoord | damn |
| 10:31.14 | QAH | Didn't know. Sorry |
| 10:37.03 | QAH | Can you use the android app market with the htc android releases? |
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| 10:43.58 | QAH | Ok. I have some graphics. Is it loading when there are a buch of lines coming together to form a X? |
| 10:44.07 | QAH | It looks just like a screensaver or something. |
| 10:46.02 | QAH | Captnoord: Thanks for letting me know about the new 2.0. It is still taking a while to load for the first time, but at least I have some graphics. |
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| 10:47.21 | QAH | Yay! Android is running, but I have messed up colors. :P |
| 10:47.39 | greebear_ | did you copy the startup.txt? |
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| 10:48.04 | QAH | There was one already there |
| 10:48.14 | QAH | Did I need to change it? |
| 10:48.18 | greebear_ | well it might be for a wrong phone (dont know) |
| 10:48.22 | QAH | oh ok |
| 10:48.27 | QAH | you might be right |
| 10:48.46 | greebear_ | i copied the diam100 thing over it _renaming_ it to the apropriate file |
| 10:49.13 | QAH | Ok. Well behind my battery is diam500. |
| 10:49.17 | QAH | So would tha tmake a difference? |
| 10:49.33 | greebear_ | i don't know |
| 10:49.47 | greebear_ | i cpied the diam100 -> startup.txt, and it works (diam300 here) |
| 10:49.58 | QAH | ok |
| 10:50.01 | QAH | thx |
| 10:50.08 | QAH | I am using the Sprint HTC Diamond |
| 10:50.24 | greebear_ | well gues what: I'm not |
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| 10:50.50 | greebear_ | for testing purposes it's very good, but not for daily use |
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| 10:53.23 | greebear_ | as you have realised before the initial boot (for setup?) takes longer. couple of minuts. just like winmo first boot |
| 10:55.16 | greebear_ | but i guess your phone is cdma |
| 10:56.13 | greebear_ | Reading does help from time to time: "You will at least need a CDMA compatible kernel image, such as this one, along with the appropriate startup.txt (included in the package as mentioned above)" |
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| 11:02.19 | QAH | I tried using the diamond config file but when I do, haret freezes |
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| 11:04.37 | greebear_ | CDMA compatible kernel image? |
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| 11:40.48 | QAH | I finally found a build that works with my phone: http://www.connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_rokdownloads&view=file&Itemid=68&id=20:android-for-htc-touch-diamond-diam500 |
| 11:41.03 | QAH | It is made for the diam500. That is my phone. Since I am on Sprint, it is the CDMA version. |
| 11:41.26 | QAH | I still don't know what version of android it is though |
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| 12:20.49 | phh | [03:01:44] <Shadowline> hmm, what is a good place to look when attempting to fix force closes? <----- available memory |
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| 12:20.50 | phh | [02:49:34] <DarkMasterHalo> Can one of you guys explain to me or direct me to a website where it explains how the kernel knows what module to load, I still don't undertstand that part. I mean, when it boots, how does it know what driver to load. Or it loads every single driver (I don't think it is doing that though) <--------- you're speaking about a computer or a phone ? for a phone it loads all builtin driver (but the devs select |
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| 12:20.51 | phh | [03:39:31] <herpez> guys, do u know if zimages config files are inside the zimages?<------- it's not hidden anywhere it's just htc_msm_android_defconfig.... again THERE IS NO POINT IN REVERSING THE ZIMAGE, that's just stupid |
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| 12:54.40 | herpez | phh - here? |
| 12:54.53 | phh | yes |
| 12:58.14 | herpez | phh - is possible to know the config files you used to compile 24th kernel? |
| 12:58.22 | phh | ........ |
| 12:58.25 | phh | topic. logs. |
| 12:59.07 | herpez | didnt understand |
| 12:59.18 | phh | READ THE DAMN LOGS |
| 12:59.32 | herpez | ok |
| 13:01.44 | FuZi0n | phh take it easy man |
| 13:01.46 | FuZi0n | last day of the year |
| 13:01.47 | FuZi0n | :P |
| 13:01.54 | phh | end ? |
| 13:01.56 | phh | that's just a date. |
| 13:02.08 | greebear_ | so true |
| 13:02.09 | phh | it actually means nothing |
| 13:02.17 | ICEMANno1 | not true! |
| 13:02.17 | FuZi0n | yeah but a nasty way to end the year |
| 13:02.22 | ICEMANno1 | it means: PARTY!!! |
| 13:02.28 | greebear_ | everyday could be special if you start counting on the right day ;) |
| 13:02.29 | FuZi0n | oh hell yeah ICEMANno1 |
| 13:02.30 | FuZi0n | :P |
| 13:02.45 | greebear_ | PARTY = headache |
| 13:03.01 | FuZi0n | /care |
| 13:03.02 | FuZi0n | ? :P |
| 13:03.03 | ICEMANno1 | greebear_: a man gotta do, what a man gotta do |
| 13:03.31 | greebear_ | that would in most cases depend on the culture you've been brought up in |
| 13:04.09 | ICEMANno1 | ohh my godness, now the philosophical stuff starts |
| 13:04.32 | greebear | no, just trying to lift your consciousness ;) |
| 13:05.17 | ICEMANno1 | won't work |
| 13:05.20 | FuZi0n | i live in the country of weed and heineken so party kinda is a logical thing next to the other 2 |
| 13:05.20 | FuZi0n | :P |
| 13:05.33 | greebear | ah okay. dutch? |
| 13:05.37 | FuZi0n | hell yeah |
| 13:05.53 | vawx | bleh, heineken :p |
| 13:05.54 | ICEMANno1 | and I'm from the country of the best beer |
| 13:05.58 | greebear | well at least you're not limited to one language, like ppl here are |
| 13:06.03 | greebear | bitburger? |
| 13:06.11 | ICEMANno1 | for example |
| 13:06.23 | ICEMANno1 | but there are way better beers over here |
| 13:06.40 | ICEMANno1 | so...a man gotta do, what a man gotta do |
| 13:06.52 | ICEMANno1 | support the country economy |
| 13:06.59 | greebear | hehe |
| 13:07.22 | greebear | I'll just blow up the garden ;) |
| 13:07.31 | ICEMANno1 | sounds like fun, too |
| 13:07.54 | vawx | as if the 65 million euro's burning are not enough to support the economy :P |
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| 13:08.06 | FuZi0n | vawx whats wrong with heineken :P |
| 13:08.07 | greebear | yep |
| 13:08.16 | vawx | FuZi0n: slootwater |
| 13:08.23 | FuZi0n | gelul |
| 13:08.24 | FuZi0n | wat zuip jij dan |
| 13:08.25 | FuZi0n | :P |
| 13:08.36 | ICEMANno1 | berg bier is way better |
| 13:08.40 | ICEMANno1 | but its only local |
| 13:08.43 | greebear | neighbours are starting up already, think I'll have to answer quick |
| 13:08.56 | vawx | hertog jan XD |
| 13:09.06 | FuZi0n | oke dat gaat nog net |
| 13:09.18 | FuZi0n | anyways |
| 13:09.20 | FuZi0n | im off |
| 13:09.20 | FuZi0n | bye |
| 13:09.47 | greebear | why the hell have you got so many words with dobule aa, oo, etc? (erst betaalen, maandags, paarken, wtf?) .. i mean i know the french are scared of consonants, but the dutch ;) |
| 13:10.02 | vawx | haha |
| 13:10.07 | greebear | a bit quaky i think |
| 13:10.10 | vawx | it's a bit like a and á in french |
| 13:10.17 | vawx | short sound, long sound |
| 13:10.38 | greebear | here they sort that out with consonants;) |
| 13:11.03 | greebear | and some irregular oddities as usual |
| 13:11.27 | vawx | dutch is a weird and complex language, i know :P |
| 13:11.57 | greebear | german is weird too |
| 13:11.57 | vawx | you should try learning the grammar... |
| 13:11.57 | greebear | turkish is quite simple compared to that |
| 13:12.02 | vawx | i think i'm safe to say that 95% of the dutch population have no clue how the grammar actually works |
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| 13:12.20 | greebear | who would actually care? |
| 13:12.24 | vawx | nobody |
| 13:12.28 | greebear | see |
| 13:12.31 | vawx | except teachers :P |
| 13:12.35 | greebear | learning by doing |
| 13:12.38 | greebear | and shitting by pooing |
| 13:12.41 | greebear | thats how it works ;) |
| 13:14.39 | vawx | phh: still want to try bluetooth? |
| 13:15.23 | phh | vawx: too late :p |
| 13:15.27 | phh | Markinus got it working |
| 13:15.38 | vawx | oh nice |
| 13:15.44 | Markinus | yes, I chack this now in |
| 13:15.47 | Markinus | check |
| 13:15.53 | ICEMANno1 | great Markinus!!! |
| 13:16.08 | ICEMANno1 | Markinus, vawx, phh anything i can debug for u guys |
| 13:16.10 | phh | I check in in glemsom's kernel too |
| 13:16.20 | phh | glemsom's autobuild |
| 13:16.21 | phh | well. |
| 13:16.31 | vawx | weird idea maybe... but does sound work over bluetooth? |
| 13:16.39 | phh | A2DP only |
| 13:16.48 | phh | well Markinus can't test |
| 13:16.58 | phh | but unless something is broken in the android build it should work |
| 13:17.04 | Markinus | I can test it, I have only a headset without a2dp . . I make a kernel you can test it |
| 13:17.04 | phh | if it doesn't you may try one of my donut builds |
| 13:17.07 | vawx | even if speakers can't? |
| 13:17.13 | phh | vawx: yup |
| 13:17.17 | vawx | i see |
| 13:17.24 | vawx | well i have no a2dp headset either so that's no help |
| 13:17.39 | ICEMANno1 | same here |
| 13:17.46 | vawx | bu isn't there software that makes a pc act as a2dp ? |
| 13:17.48 | phh | -_-' |
| 13:18.04 | phh | maybe |
| 13:18.32 | vawx | at least i used to have someway of connecting, but never did hear anything |
| 13:18.32 | vawx | on wimo that is |
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| 13:19.03 | vawx | think it was with bluesoleil |
| 13:19.06 | fr911 | Hello |
| 13:19.17 | phh | fr911: YOU have topaz/rhod AND a2dp headset ! |
| 13:19.27 | phh | (it's worth a try no ? :D) |
| 13:19.31 | fr911 | phh |
| 13:19.36 | vawx | hehe |
| 13:19.42 | fr911 | I am using a blackstone |
| 13:19.47 | phh | baaahh |
| 13:19.52 | ICEMANno1 | nice try |
| 13:19.52 | fr911 | without headset |
| 13:20.14 | fr911 | and I am on Eclair |
| 13:20.32 | fr911 | despite the huge battery drain |
| 13:21.06 | ICEMANno1 | so we have the battery problem not only on the topaz/rhodium builkds |
| 13:21.19 | phh | ICEMANno1: yes, it's known. |
| 13:21.32 | ICEMANno1 | too bad, maybe somebody will find a solution |
| 13:21.35 | ICEMANno1 | fast! |
| 13:21.35 | ICEMANno1 | :) |
| 13:21.44 | vawx | untill you have complete power control like in wimo you will always keep battery drain |
| 13:21.47 | phh | use my donut build ! :p |
| 13:21.55 | ICEMANno1 | :P |
| 13:22.04 | fr911 | Is it related to power management managed bywinmo? |
| 13:22.11 | phh | on my donut build, I can last something like >16hours |
| 13:22.11 | ICEMANno1 | fr911: how long does your battery last? |
| 13:22.21 | fr911 | 3 hours |
| 13:22.28 | ICEMANno1 | k |
| 13:22.38 | phh | fr911: oh well you have no backlight off, that doesn't help. |
| 13:22.44 | fr911 | donut is androis 1.6 right? |
| 13:22.47 | phh | yes |
| 13:23.40 | fr911 | then i have to setup backlight to off on WinMO |
| 13:24.00 | fr911 | lets try this right now |
| 13:25.56 | fr911 | Auto adjust ws already to off :( |
| 13:25.58 | vawx | phh: i still didn't manage to get ADB running btw... i got one last option though... mac os x |
| 13:26.03 | ICEMANno1 | Markinus: into which repos are u comitting? |
| 13:26.43 | Markinus | I have to marge manualy, its tak a bit time, linux-msm-topaz |
| 13:26.49 | ICEMANno1 | k |
| 13:27.22 | fr911 | btw how do reboot android without hard reset? |
| 13:27.35 | vawx | i do hope you mean soft reset :p |
| 13:27.48 | fr911 | yes soft reset :) |
| 13:28.12 | fr911 | is there a reboot command |
| 13:28.17 | fr911 | or poweroff |
| 13:28.18 | fr911 | ? |
| 13:28.25 | vawx | poweroff doesn't work, at least on topaz |
| 13:28.59 | phh | fr911: noway for you |
| 13:29.01 | fr911 | i will install better terminal |
| 13:29.10 | phh | fr911: you have to do longpress ... which doesn't work for you |
| 13:29.10 | fr911 | phh ok |
| 13:29.29 | ICEMANno1 | yep, even on phh's initrd it stops at "arm9 hangs" |
| 13:29.30 | fr911 | i ve test the long press |
| 13:29.44 | phh | ICEMANno1: and no reboot ? |
| 13:29.46 | Markinus | okay, bt changes are checked in |
| 13:29.46 | phh | weird |
| 13:29.59 | ICEMANno1 | no reboot |
| 13:30.01 | ICEMANno1 | or no halt |
| 13:30.12 | ICEMANno1 | by the way, why do you have changed the top power botton and the stop call button? |
| 13:30.13 | phh | 58static int adb=1; |
| 13:30.13 | phh | 59module_param(adb, int, S_IRUGO | S_IWUSR | S_IWGRP); |
| 13:30.17 | phh | that was just useless Markinus |
| 13:31.00 | Markinus | ahh, okay .. ups . . |
| 13:32.03 | phh | Markinus: I don't remember, you do android builds as well, or you do only kernel stuff ? |
| 13:32.41 | Markinus | yes ,the first build ware from me, I would make now a new one with bluetooth |
| 13:33.36 | Markinus | I made this one small correction for topaz, maybe you can marge this too . .http://gitorious.org/~mweirauch/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm-topaz/commit/60e62f525675d651498683a856a9f2540d697f88 |
| 13:33.41 | phh | the wlan.ko module is in the module-xxxxx.tar.gz ? |
| 13:33.53 | phh | I already did it a while ago :p |
| 13:34.07 | Markinus | okay |
| 13:34.15 | Markinus | no, I put it in the root of sd |
| 13:34.16 | phh | http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/commit/f92d3b40f296b557c6b7bdecc198ab0697745ec6 |
| 13:34.42 | Markinus | I changed the wlan loading script to load this file not from android image |
| 13:35.16 | Markinus | its load now from root sdcard |
| 13:35.41 | phh | you should extract it from modules-xxxx.tar.gz imho |
| 13:35.42 | Markinus | so we can compile this every time new with a new kernel . without image editing ,, |
| 13:36.30 | Markinus | it isnt in the modules-tar.gz . . . |
| 13:36.58 | phh | put it in /o\ |
| 13:37.08 | Markinus | ahh, okay ;-) |
| 13:37.14 | Markinus | sorry my englisch ;-) |
| 13:37.17 | GlemSom | git ls-remote origin HEAD | awk '{print $1}' still returns c7b592c35a2b4cc7c994c6f6b03b076dd95b7243... Why cant I see the last commits? |
| 13:37.39 | phh | which last commit ? |
| 13:37.49 | GlemSom | phh, By markus |
| 13:37.55 | phh | GlemSom: he isn't on the same repo :p |
| 13:38.17 | phh | his patches aren't mergable as is, i need some time to merge it |
| 13:38.22 | GlemSom | ohh dooh... You're right :/ sorry |
| 13:38.23 | phh | but wait a bit :p |
| 13:39.50 | GlemSom | Are the plan to merge the personal close into one? (like linux-msm-topaz and linux-msm-diam500) ? |
| 13:39.58 | GlemSom | Or, shall we have seperate trees? |
| 13:40.01 | phh | I do merge them. |
| 13:40.08 | GlemSom | Ok |
| 13:40.09 | phh | well for diam500 it's really tough |
| 13:40.28 | phh | you might do a separate tree for them |
| 13:41.16 | GlemSom | Well, there's no point if you're gonna merge them anyway... :P |
| 13:41.47 | GlemSom | I just really like to have just ONE kernel... ONE tree... That's easier to maintain! |
| 13:42.03 | phh | no I can't merge diam500 |
| 13:42.08 | phh | I already tried, and still no luck |
| 13:42.32 | GlemSom | Ok |
| 13:42.55 | GlemSom | So, we'll have to supply a special kernel for diam500 users... :/ |
| 13:43.19 | phh | diam500/raph500/raph800 |
| 13:43.27 | phh | "old cdma devices" :p |
| 13:44.07 | GlemSom | Ohh, there's a linux-msm-cdma close as well... |
| 13:45.17 | phh | it's the same thing |
| 13:45.20 | phh | just not the same people |
| 13:45.41 | phh | you'll have to talk with mrpippy and makkonen to know which one to pick :p |
| 13:47.38 | GlemSom | Well, I would like to rewrite sompe parts of the autobuildsystem anyway - so... If I need to support more GIT tree's - this might be the right time to do it... I still have code floating around from the old "diamond with squashfs" and such builds... :P |
| 13:47.49 | phh | :) |
| 13:52.39 | phh | http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/commit/4ec481b450a2fc3fdeb08ed6f3101ce2c2318ebe |
| 13:52.41 | phh | happy ? :p |
| 13:55.25 | GlemSom | yeap! :D |
| 13:56.41 | GlemSom | Well, I might support the other personal close... It might be good for regression-testing anyway... But, I'll have to wait till next year! :P |
| 13:56.51 | GlemSom | s/close/clones/ |
| 13:57.35 | phh | I have to check if other clones changed anything now :( |
| 13:58.17 | GlemSom | Yeah, if possible - having ONE tree would be the best... |
| 13:58.42 | GlemSom | but, I guess they have a good reason for starting their own personal clones... |
| 13:59.12 | phh | because I don't accept commiters that easily ? :p |
| 13:59.27 | GlemSom | hahaha, that might be it! :D |
| 13:59.43 | phh | most devs don't do clean commits so i prefer merging it by myself |
| 14:00.04 | phh | but mrpippy seems to do it correctly, he might get some access. |
| 14:00.57 | Captnoord | votes for mrrippy |
| 14:01.04 | phh | uh ? |
| 14:01.07 | Captnoord | :P |
| 14:01.08 | phh | mr rip it ? |
| 14:01.23 | Captnoord | mrpippy |
| 14:01.24 | Captnoord | :P |
| 14:01.26 | Captnoord | -r + p |
| 14:01.39 | phh | ok |
| 14:03.18 | GlemSom | Gotta go... btw, happy newyear everyone! |
| 14:06.29 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 14:06.31 | Captnoord | lolz |
| 14:06.34 | Captnoord | not yet here |
| 14:06.41 | Captnoord | in about 9 hours or so |
| 14:06.50 | phh | a bit less |
| 14:07.14 | phh | Markinus: would you mind trying if bluetooth works with http://zimages.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/autobuild_system/htc-msm-android/zImage-modules-20091231_150020.tar ? |
| 14:09.14 | Markinus | OK, I do it! |
| 14:09.24 | phh | thanks |
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| 14:24.33 | FuZi0n | Captnoord got some fireworks for tonight? :p |
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| 15:19.23 | Markinus | phh with this image this isn't working on my device . . maybe a other defconfig? |
| 15:19.43 | phh | this=bluetooth ? |
| 15:19.52 | Markinus | yes |
| 15:20.02 | phh | strange |
| 15:20.13 | phh | the defconfig is right, bluetooth works on raph/diam |
| 15:20.23 | phh | it's my merge which is wrong most likely |
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| 15:29.17 | ICEMANno1 | phh: how's code merging proceeding? |
| 15:29.36 | phh | bah everything has been merged afaik |
| 15:29.37 | ICEMANno1 | (wow does sound like real bad english) |
| 15:29.48 | ICEMANno1 | afaik? |
| 15:29.55 | phh | as far as i know |
| 15:30.00 | ICEMANno1 | k :D |
| 15:30.27 | ICEMANno1 | did u merge the topaz branch into the main one? |
| 15:31.07 | phh | not exactly a merge, but theorically yes |
| 15:31.28 | phh | practically it seems I failed somehow. |
| 15:31.37 | ICEMANno1 | k |
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| 15:36.06 | ICEMANno1 | phh: mweirauch asked a good question in the forum |
| 15:36.13 | phh | I answered |
| 15:36.19 | phh | or the answer is to be posted don't remember |
| 15:36.26 | phh | it's to be posted |
| 15:36.40 | phh | (my multitasking isn't really good today) |
| 15:36.57 | ICEMANno1 | :D |
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| 16:21.54 | phh | now with this extra usable memory, i even more want a raphael. |
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| 16:37.23 | Captnoord | ? |
| 16:37.47 | parmaster | phh raph what vers |
| 16:50.59 | phh | Captnoord: ? |
| 16:51.09 | phh | parmaster: 100 |
| 16:51.18 | phh | well gsm. |
| 16:51.56 | Captnoord | why do you want a raph? |
| 16:52.14 | phh | because it has more memory, real keyboard, and microSD. |
| 16:52.35 | Captnoord | true true true |
| 16:52.56 | phh | :p |
| 16:53.08 | Captnoord | still it doesn't run as smooth as I would like |
| 16:54.01 | Captnoord | but maybe thats android |
| 16:54.05 | Captnoord | and not the hw itself |
| 16:54.15 | phh | Captnoord: maybe because android doesn't use the extra memory yet ? :p |
| 16:54.31 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 16:54.50 | Captnoord | hmmm I wonder how we could make it use it.... |
| 16:55.01 | phh | but according to vicbush with right settings it works |
| 16:55.26 | Captnoord | hmmmm |
| 16:55.36 | phh | Captnoord: want to try ? |
| 16:55.43 | Captnoord | nah.. not now.... |
| 16:55.47 | Captnoord | remind me tomorrow |
| 16:55.53 | phh | ok |
| 16:56.08 | phh | haha, I forgot a makefile update |
| 16:58.22 | makkonen | is there an easy way for my cloned repo to pull down all the changes from its upstream parent? |
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| 16:58.36 | fr911 | re-hi :) |
| 16:58.41 | phh | makkonen: git pull <url> :p |
| 16:58.51 | phh | then fix the merge problems |
| 16:58.54 | phh | git commit -m "merge" |
| 16:58.55 | phh | git push |
| 16:59.09 | makkonen | ok |
| 16:59.33 | makkonen | I'd say that's a no to 'easy way' :-) |
| 17:00.16 | phh | uh.... ok. |
| 17:02.00 | makkonen | well, I just need to bring it up to date with all the stuff you've done in the last couple days before I start pushing my patches... didn't want to have to pull and push them and get my hands dirty. I'm still rather scared by all the complications of git. |
| 17:02.07 | makkonen | (I'm just complaining. don't mind me.) |
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| 17:04.16 | phh | makkonen: it's really not that hard |
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| 17:04.54 | makkonen | I'm sure I'll agree once I learn what I need to do. |
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| 17:11.08 | makkonen | ok, that is pretty easy. :) |
| 17:11.15 | phh | :p |
| 17:11.36 | phh | don't forget to push maybe. |
| 17:19.37 | makkonen | looks like your board-htcraphael-rfkill.c references the function machine_is_htcraphael_cdma_500 when it should be machine_is_htcraphael_cdma500 |
| 17:20.19 | phh | really ? |
| 17:20.27 | phh | but it built |
| 17:20.45 | phh | but you're right |
| 17:20.51 | makkonen | didn't build for me. weird. |
| 17:21.22 | phh | I think it built. |
| 17:21.40 | phh | but it didn't. |
| 17:22.53 | phh | hopefully many people take a look at my commits :D |
| 17:23.28 | phh | pushed thanks |
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| 17:27.13 | Captnoord | phh I check them.... you know...... |
| 17:27.29 | Captnoord | talk to ya in the new year |
| 17:27.30 | Captnoord | :P |
| 17:27.36 | Captnoord | next year* |
| 17:27.37 | Captnoord | :P |
| 17:27.42 | phh | :) |
| 17:28.37 | makkonen | huh. new build... 3d initializes without doing anything in winmo now? |
| 17:28.56 | phh | makkonen: noway |
| 17:29.00 | phh | must be software rendering |
| 17:29.26 | phh | babijoee and me have tried to take back hardware rendering, no luck yet. |
| 17:29.48 | makkonen | could be. I get the shimmery boot animation, which I hadn't gotten in a long time. and I thought that came down to 3d being initialized. |
| 17:30.12 | phh | if you use my builds it's software |
| 17:30.18 | makkonen | got it |
| 17:30.54 | phh | but it's a closed-source part, really tough to understand/fix |
| 17:31.21 | phh | I also tried software video decoding, but copybit isn't my friend on that. |
| 17:33.24 | makkonen | huh. new build doesn't need usb_function_diag disabled for cdma data to work, it seems |
| 17:34.15 | phh | iirc I've updatedthe diag function with hero's one |
| 17:34.22 | phh | maybe they unbroke it themselves :p |
| 17:34.30 | phh | makkonen: you still need the smd*.c old stuff btw ? |
| 17:34.31 | makkonen | yeah. it definitely changed. |
| 17:34.38 | makkonen | yeah |
| 17:34.40 | phh | mrpippy didn't commit that so i was wondering |
| 17:34.49 | makkonen | that's really the only stumbling block. |
| 17:35.00 | makkonen | yeah. I'm not sure if he's committed all his changes. |
| 17:35.16 | makkonen | I haven't been able to get it to run with the new smd.c |
| 17:35.23 | makkonen | I don't know if he has. |
| 17:37.14 | Captnoord | phh maybe.... but just a tought |
| 17:37.22 | Captnoord | as htc likes to change defines |
| 17:37.22 | Captnoord | #define HW3D_REVOKE_GPU_IOW(PMEM_IOCTL_MAGIC, 8, unsigned int) |
| 17:37.22 | Captnoord | #define HW3D_GRANT_GPU_IOW(PMEM_IOCTL_MAGIC, 9, unsigned int) |
| 17:37.22 | Captnoord | #define HW3D_WAIT_FOR_INTERRUPT_IOW(PMEM_IOCTL_MAGIC, 10, unsigned int) |
| 17:37.30 | Captnoord | in pmem shit |
| 17:37.44 | makkonen | what would I need to do to get battery status reporting working correctly? It just says 5% all the time now. |
| 17:38.09 | phh | Captnoord: maybe they are wrong again ? |
| 17:38.09 | Captnoord | I don't know |
| 17:38.23 | Captnoord | all i'm saying that rpc stuff was also diff numbers |
| 17:38.33 | Captnoord | i'm not saying this is exactly the same |
| 17:38.34 | phh | uh ? which rpc ? |
| 17:38.42 | phh | anyway I think something's wrong with pmem too |
| 17:38.52 | phh | but hero's kernel has the same header as us |
| 17:38.58 | Captnoord | when cr2 fixed rpc stuff |
| 17:39.00 | Captnoord | it where the enums |
| 17:39.03 | Captnoord | another tought |
| 17:39.05 | Captnoord | maybe |
| 17:39.08 | Captnoord | hw3d_revoke_gpu is called |
| 17:39.13 | phh | uuuuuuuhhhhhhhh ? |
| 17:39.14 | Captnoord | but it needs to be reset |
| 17:39.16 | Captnoord | or |
| 17:39.17 | phh | cr2 fixed rpc stuff ? |
| 17:39.18 | Captnoord | it isn't called |
| 17:39.21 | Captnoord | long time ago |
| 17:39.30 | phh | ok |
| 17:39.33 | Captnoord | looooonnnnggggg time ago |
| 17:39.36 | Captnoord | checkt he git logs |
| 17:39.37 | Captnoord | :P |
| 17:39.50 | phh | makkonen: which board do you have again ? |
| 17:40.47 | phh | Captnoord: I can't see anything like that :/ |
| 17:41.23 | makkonen | phh: raph800 |
| 17:41.26 | Captnoord | i'm just throwing some toughts |
| 17:42.02 | phh | makkonen: in board-htcraphael.c line 419-422, try to use raphael gsm values |
| 17:42.15 | phh | Captnoord: anyway, the 3D is not broken |
| 17:42.19 | phh | in the kernel i mean |
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| 17:42.22 | phh | it's only the userland |
| 17:42.27 | makkonen | iirc when I used those it showed up as 100% all the time, but still didn't actually report status. I'll try it again, though. |
| 17:42.30 | phh | I tried again 3D on my donut build |
| 17:42.33 | phh | it just works |
| 17:42.56 | Captnoord | I know its not broken |
| 17:43.04 | Captnoord | you just need to enable it when your in wince |
| 17:43.06 | Captnoord | I know |
| 17:43.18 | phh | I can't see what you mean then :/ |
| 17:43.44 | Captnoord | the 'you need to enable it in wince' part |
| 17:44.00 | phh | aaaaahhhhhh |
| 17:44.07 | greebear | huh?? |
| 17:44.13 | phh | greebear: ? |
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| 17:44.32 | phh | Captnoord: it was working before ? |
| 17:44.40 | Captnoord | I don't know |
| 17:44.44 | phh | ok |
| 17:45.09 | Captnoord | I switched from rom to many times |
| 17:45.09 | Captnoord | I had roms with 3d enabled |
| 17:45.09 | Captnoord | and roms without |
| 17:45.09 | Captnoord | so I can't tell |
| 17:45.11 | phh | ok |
| 17:47.21 | The_Eccentric | any one have any luck with wirless on the ralph800?? |
| 17:49.58 | makkonen | raph800 |
| 17:50.10 | The_Eccentric | si |
| 17:50.18 | makkonen | and yes, some have, but not me. |
| 17:50.32 | The_Eccentric | makkonen: aye i rememeber you now :D |
| 17:50.32 | makkonen | audio does work as of 2 minutes ago, though. So that's cool. |
| 17:50.44 | The_Eccentric | you helped me last time |
| 17:50.52 | makkonen | mrpippy, phh: thanks |
| 17:51.00 | phh | makkonen: uh ? |
| 17:51.15 | phh | oh yeah mrpippy (re?)enabled adsp 6150 |
| 17:52.52 | phh | if some gsm raph/blac/rhod/topa could try http://zimages.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/autobuild_system/htc-msm-android/zImage-modules-20091231_184527.tar that would be nice. |
| 17:53.31 | The_Eccentric | phh whats that for? |
| 17:53.40 | phh | *gsm* raph I said. |
| 17:53.42 | phh | extra memory |
| 18:00.26 | phh | pff, people are slow for a 31st Dec to test this new kernel :p |
| 18:01.06 | The_Eccentric | phh: anything new to it, worth upgrading/ |
| 18:01.22 | phh | The_Eccentric: it won't work for you. |
| 18:01.33 | phh | but it gives 128-51MB extra available RAM |
| 18:01.44 | phh | (which makes 77) |
| 18:01.46 | The_Eccentric | not on raph 800 ? |
| 18:01.49 | The_Eccentric | :( |
| 18:01.54 | phh | bah it isn't supposed to start |
| 18:01.58 | phh | you can try if you want. |
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| 18:13.29 | greebear | trying in a minute |
| 18:13.45 | greebear | (aw, diam was not listed) |
| 18:13.52 | phh | greebear: no. |
| 18:13.56 | phh | diam has only one bank |
| 18:14.02 | phh | that's why i want a raph. |
| 18:14.05 | phh | (one reason why.) |
| 18:14.18 | greebear | you have a diam too? |
| 18:14.36 | phh | yes |
| 18:14.42 | greebear | ah ok |
| 18:15.02 | makkonen | is it going to not boot on my raph800 or just not do anything different? |
| 18:15.12 | phh | makkonen: don't know |
| 18:15.28 | makkonen | ok. stand by. |
| 18:15.57 | phh | so wifi prevented the system from sleeping. cool. |
| 18:16.05 | phh | or my goold old BT friend ? |
| 18:16.17 | phh | mmm |
| 18:17.26 | makkonen | bleh. still got something wrong in my compcache build. |
| 18:17.28 | greebear | how to test 3d? |
| 18:17.35 | phh | greebear: neocore |
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| 18:18.09 | greebear | if you 'lot' get this to work properly it's a free beer on me ;) |
| 18:18.11 | makkonen | phh: new build boots fine on raph800. if that matters at all to you. |
| 18:18.17 | phh | ?!? |
| 18:18.30 | phh | yes it matters |
| 18:18.41 | phh | makkonen: run as many apps as you can |
| 18:18.41 | The_Eccentric | makkonen: anything bad happens?> |
| 18:18.47 | phh | oh no |
| 18:18.52 | phh | I didn't activated extra memory for you |
| 18:18.58 | makkonen | :-) |
| 18:19.11 | Alex[sp3dev] | hello guys, anyone got a blackstone here? |
| 18:19.36 | makkonen | alright. well, I've gotta run. gotta get the modules build working right before I post this up, and I can't do that now. |
| 18:19.38 | phh | no but you might still ask. |
| 18:19.49 | phh | makkonen: can you check if everything works in this kernel ? |
| 18:20.01 | phh | that would be awesome and strange. |
| 18:20.38 | makkonen | what's everything? |
| 18:20.43 | phh | usb, data connection |
| 18:20.48 | phh | radio |
| 18:21.01 | phh | (well if data connection I guess radio works too :p |
| 18:21.33 | makkonen | usb seems to work (still haven't figured out my windows usb issues, but the device shows up, and 'usb connected' shows up in android notifications -- though not 'usb debugging...') |
| 18:21.56 | phh | (maybe you disabled it in settings ?) |
| 18:22.01 | makkonen | I didn't |
| 18:22.03 | makkonen | data works |
| 18:22.23 | phh | -_-' |
| 18:22.51 | phh | why when I tried to fix it, it didn't work and now it works ? :p |
| 18:23.06 | makkonen | seems to be best yet for raph800 |
| 18:23.12 | makkonen | what'd you try to fix? |
| 18:23.26 | phh | bah this kernel not starting on cdma devices |
| 18:23.31 | makkonen | oh. |
| 18:23.36 | makkonen | no. sorry. |
| 18:23.43 | makkonen | this has my smd stuff rolled in. |
| 18:23.54 | phh | ouf |
| 18:24.01 | makkonen | sorry for the miscommunication. |
| 18:24.06 | greebear | mine just reseted |
| 18:24.06 | phh | no problem |
| 18:24.20 | phh | greebear: when doing what ? |
| 18:24.28 | phh | this kernel ? |
| 18:24.28 | greebear | how : just in the menu, trying to get the info bar down |
| 18:24.31 | greebear | froze |
| 18:24.40 | phh | get ramconsole |
| 18:25.15 | greebear | i guess i'm not up to date with this |
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| 18:32.59 | FuZi0n | phh just got a freeze when turning off wifi for the first time |
| 18:34.05 | phh | only freeze ? |
| 18:34.07 | phh | sounds weird |
| 18:34.15 | phh | I usually get reboots |
| 18:35.04 | FuZi0n | it never reboots here |
| 18:35.06 | phh | huhu |
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| 18:42.36 | phh | makkonen: I pushed memory changes for your board too if you still have time to test |
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| 18:42.49 | FuZi0n | phh |
| 18:42.51 | FuZi0n | kernel panic yay |
| 18:43.25 | phh | FuZi0n: at start ? |
| 18:43.25 | FuZi0n | yep |
| 18:43.25 | phh | gimme ramconsole |
| 18:44.14 | FuZi0n | sorry what |
| 18:44.15 | FuZi0n | :P |
| 18:47.10 | FuZi0n | what do you want me to give ya phh |
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| 18:54.16 | FuZi0n | dinner |
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| 18:55.32 | makkonen | phh: new build boots. can't tell yet if it runs any better. |
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| 18:55.42 | phh | run free command |
| 18:56.45 | makkonen | mem: 182576 / 180104 / 2472 / 0 / 11092 |
| 18:56.55 | makkonen | swap : 0 / 0 / 0 |
| 18:57.39 | phh | cool then |
| 18:57.52 | phh | if it doesn't crash in the meanwhile :p |
| 18:58.26 | makkonen | is the accelerometer enabled/working? |
| 18:58.49 | makkonen | because everything I start seems to be rotated sideways. turning off the orientation by accelerometer setting... I think fixes it. |
| 18:59.45 | phh | axes might be wrong |
| 19:00.19 | makkonen | might've just been a transient thing. turned it back on and now they're not doing it. |
| 19:01.16 | makkonen | working right now. very cool. |
| 19:01.40 | phh | for you :'( |
| 19:02.18 | makkonen | oh. sorry. |
| 19:02.50 | makkonen | my screen still turns off if I touch it while data is downloading. so don't envy me. :-) |
| 19:02.53 | phh | FuZi0n: sounds weird it crashes for you then |
| 19:03.03 | phh | huhu |
| 19:03.19 | phh | backlight or panel ? |
| 19:03.25 | makkonen | which is an irq issue. I need to get dmesg and track that down. |
| 19:03.36 | makkonen | panel, I think. |
| 19:03.40 | phh | k |
| 19:24.09 | makkonen | orientation only seems to work for me if I go in and turn it off, then turn it back on. |
| 19:24.32 | phh | sounds weird |
| 19:26.27 | makkonen | sounds like something working adb might help debug. |
| 19:26.43 | makkonen | but that's a few steps down the list. |
| 19:32.48 | FuZi0n | phh yes it does |
| 19:32.59 | FuZi0n | but what do you mean by ramconsole |
| 19:33.11 | phh | create a new folder |
| 19:33.13 | phh | put haret.exe in it |
| 19:33.17 | phh | create a defaul.txt file |
| 19:33.22 | phh | ~ramconsole |
| 19:33.23 | apt | i heard ramconsole is pwf dm 0x8e0000 0x20000 |
| 19:33.28 | phh | which contains pwf dm 0x8e0000 0x20000 |
| 19:33.32 | phh | then start haret.exe |
| 19:33.41 | phh | and send the dm file at phhusson@free.fr |
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| 19:36.46 | FuZi0n | where do i put ~ramconsole phh |
| 19:37.00 | makkonen | phh: any idea how I would track down what's happening here: http://pastebin.com/m2a482d1d |
| 19:37.24 | makkonen | lines 894 and 957 and following |
| 19:37.47 | FuZi0n | oh you gotta be fucking me, berlusconi singing love songs :/ |
| 19:38.46 | phh | FuZi0n: nowhere. |
| 19:38.53 | phh | [20:34:27] <phh> create a defaul.txt file |
| 19:39.03 | phh | [20:34:38] <phh> which contains pwf dm 0x8e0000 0x20000 |
| 19:39.05 | phh | just take that. |
| 19:39.07 | FuZi0n | oh right. |
| 19:39.32 | phh | makkonen: don't care |
| 19:39.34 | phh | it's just slow pathes |
| 19:39.51 | phh | it's the same for other boards |
| 19:40.44 | makkonen | that's what happens when the panel shuts down when I touch the screen while it's downloading over data connection. |
| 19:40.51 | makkonen | I think both of those spots. |
| 19:41.14 | makkonen | I don't know if that's the actual shutdown, or the wakeup following, though. |
| 19:41.44 | FuZi0n | phh: sent |
| 19:43.58 | makkonen | unfortunately, I have to go now, so I can't follow this up. If you do happen to have any thoughts, I'll read scrollback when I return. |
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| 22:50.01 | phh | http://glemsom.anapnea.net/android/htc-msm-android/# |
| 22:50.03 | phh | one raph110 boots |
| 22:50.06 | phh | the other one doesn't. |
| 22:50.15 | phh | testing that is going to be easy |
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| 23:17.25 | makkonen | phh: I think your mistake there is trusting the comments to be a fair and accurate representation of reality. |
| 23:17.49 | phh | true. |
| 23:18.16 | phh | but I think that the difference between starting and not starting is doable by the users |
| 23:18.37 | phh | I hoped so. |
| 23:21.23 | makkonen | I have hoped so as well. Usually in vain. |
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| 23:25.13 | phh | so I should assume it doesn't work. |
| 23:25.13 | phh | it's easier to do false positive than false negative |
| 23:26.03 | phh | someone pmed a kernel which has pm.sleep_mode=1 which works really good (more than 5minutes of sleep, even with eclair.), *with* the patch |
| 23:26.10 | phh | but there is *nothing* in the patch related to sleep. |
| 23:26.23 | phh | and i trust this guy, he already did fine things |
| 23:26.34 | phh | I just don't get it |
| 23:28.20 | makkonen | really baffling. It's even worse when it's happening directly to you. you start to feel like you're going crazy. |
| 23:28.37 | phh | kind of. |
| 23:28.51 | phh | he is using an older tree, that might be linked |
| 23:28.55 | phh | but sleep_mode=1 *never* worked |
| 23:30.27 | makkonen | do you have any ideas about the dmesg I pasted earlier, with the irq errors? they correspond to touching the screen and causing the screen to shut off. |
| 23:30.44 | phh | ?!? |
| 23:30.54 | phh | it's these ones that shut the screen ?!? |
| 23:31.29 | makkonen | yeah. |
| 23:31.37 | phh | these messages are because android wanted to go to sleep |
| 23:31.44 | makkonen | yeah |
| 23:31.56 | phh | makkonen: does the phone vibrates when this happen ? |
| 23:31.59 | makkonen | yes |
| 23:32.11 | phh | ok, it's a bug in touchscreen |
| 23:32.29 | makkonen | ok |
| 23:32.37 | phh | a little workaround is to disactivate blackstone pad |
| 23:32.38 | phh | in zImage |
| 23:32.46 | phh | in menuconfig i mean |
| 23:33.06 | phh | devices/char/input |
| 23:33.10 | phh | /touchscreen |
| 23:33.29 | makkonen | alright. |
| 23:33.33 | makkonen | cool. |
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| 23:33.50 | phh | still, we need a correct touchscreen driver. |
| 23:34.00 | phh | I know two others. |
| 23:34.24 | phh | don't know which one will be the best of the three |
| 23:34.29 | phh | and i don't want to try. |
| 23:34.45 | makkonen | yeah. hassle to test that, not having the correct device in hand. |
| 23:36.47 | makkonen | so that also explains why the touchscreen is a little flaky reading position... sometimes it's really jumpy and thinks you pressed far over on the right side if you tap lightly. |
| 23:37.04 | phh | http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/commit/51ba947d253bb2c4bc1fee06bc1c8ad0371ad75a |
| 23:37.10 | phh | it's the other way :p |
| 23:37.21 | phh | the fact that touchscreen is flakky explains our bug |
| 23:37.59 | phh | your* |
| 23:38.26 | makkonen | hmm. that sounds like a semantic issue rather than a technical one. :-) |
| 23:38.29 | phh | makkonen: if you want to try, the other drivers are in hero's kernel, and the yet other one known is in i7500's source |
| 23:38.56 | makkonen | how much coding will they take to drop in? |
| 23:39.10 | makkonen | should it just be replacing the files and go? |
| 23:39.19 | phh | and modifing Makefile |
| 23:39.23 | phh | but I guess that's all yes |
| 23:39.31 | makkonen | ok. that'll go on the list. |
| 23:39.41 | makkonen | (where are hero and i7500 kernel sources?) |
| 23:39.48 | phh | developer.htc.com |
| 23:40.02 | phh | http://opensource.samsungmobile.com/download/OpenSource/GT-I7500_OpenSource.zip |
| 23:40.12 | makkonen | thanks. |
| 23:40.49 | phh | the files for hero's driver (which is not used by the hero since they use capacitive and not resistive touchscreen.), are tp_cal, tssc_manager and calibrate |
| 23:41.11 | phh | msm_touch.c for i7500 |
| 23:42.02 | phh | oh well, there is some little pdata to set up for hero's kernel |
| 23:42.54 | phh | hum I7500's too |
| 23:43.10 | makkonen | well, I'll try to give it a shot, but not tonight. I'll probably end up asking for help. :-p |
| 23:43.45 | phh | hum, don't use I7500's driver. |
| 23:43.51 | phh | no calibration. |
| 23:43.57 | phh | well, hardcoded |
| 23:43.59 | makkonen | now to figure out what I'm doing wrong in my compcache build that's making it build off the wrong kernel sources. |
| 23:44.19 | phh | it's maybe not the build ? :p |
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| 23:46.32 | makkonen | vmalloc: version magic '2.6.27-00672-g522e817-dirty preempt mod_unload ARMv6 ' should be '2.6.27-00697-gcdfe712 preempt mod_unload ARMv6 ' |
| 23:47.02 | phh | ooohhhhhh |
| 23:47.27 | makkonen | who knows. I'll clean up everything and try again. maybe I just had my build.sh script wrap up the wrong files. |
| 23:47.35 | phh | read ramzswap's Makefile, you have to make to do, one for xvmalloc, one for ramzswap |
| 23:47.44 | makkonen | ah |
| 23:47.54 | makkonen | oh, right! |
| 23:48.15 | makkonen | I changed the kernel build path in the directory, and didn't update it when I switched to my cloned repo. dumb. |
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| 23:49.00 | phh | DarkMasterHalo: read logs, I answered one of your question |
| 23:49.14 | phh | (I just don't remember which question it was nor the answer but eh) |
| 23:49.50 | DarkMasterHalo | phh: Ah ok, thanks :) |
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| 23:55.03 | DarkMasterHalo | phh: Hmm strange, it didn't record it !, Or I'm looking at the wrong place ... |
| 23:55.31 | phh | [13:15:41] <phh> [02:49:34] <DarkMasterHalo> Can one of you guys explain to me or direct me to a website where it explains how the kernel knows what module to load, I still don't undertstand that part. I mean, when it boots, how does it know what driver to load. Or it loads every single driver (I don't think it is doing that though) <--------- you're speaking about a computer or a phone ? for a phone it loads all builtin driver (but |
| 23:55.31 | phh | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:56.34 | DarkMasterHalo | phh: Ah ok, thank you :) |
| 23:57.37 | DarkMasterHalo | Where did you look, I've looked at the logs of the 30 December 2009 and they were not there... |
| 23:58.55 | tmzt | kernel is same on both |
| 23:59.11 | tmzt | kernel is modular but modules can be built in |
| 23:59.58 | tmzt | only if something is built as a module (.ko) does it need to be loaded |