IRC log for #htc-linux on 20091229

00:00.00tmztsince the dev was here yesterday
00:00.04tmztwhich mtype?
00:00.06phhrhod
00:00.07tmztonly rhod?
00:00.09tmztok
00:00.09phhyes
00:00.18tmztvicbush
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00:02.26tmztI'll pull a little later I hope
00:02.36phhyou have still not pulled ?
00:02.39tmztts works in mer now for me
00:02.42tmztno
00:02.46tmztno internet
00:03.03tmztalso no nat on the kernel
00:03.12tmztguess I need modules.tar.gz
00:03.26tmztppp is stable though
00:03.37tmztdownloading packages and everything worked
00:03.42tmztdidn't on raph500
00:03.59phhhum nat isn't in modules either
00:05.17phhlet's activate it then.
00:05.42tmzthas to have iptables in zImage
00:05.45tmztto work
00:05.48tmztnf
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00:08.08phhI know, cdma raph/diam doesn't work :/
00:08.56phhI already tried to merge it back, but still no luck
00:09.20ToAsTcfhtmzt: how many htc devices do u own?
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00:11.16zychostill random reboot into winmo
00:11.19zychoon diam
00:13.07phhzycho: bah works fine for me :/
00:13.32zychohm.. whats wrong here than
00:14.32ToAsTcfhi wish Joe would hurry up and get back
00:16.33ToAsTcfhwonder how hard it would be to put winmo on my Hero! lol
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00:17.03phhToAsTcfh: really hard.
00:17.11ToAsTcfhi agree
00:17.42phhand useless
00:18.01ToAsTcfhwinmo sux
00:18.18ToAsTcfhalthough u guys have the best of both
00:18.43ToAsTcfhso if winmo 7 is the shit. u got an option
00:18.53phh:)
00:19.14phhI think wimo 7 needs multitouch
00:19.28ToAsTcfhits not gonna be there
00:19.42ToAsTcfhi thoiught 6.5 was gonna have it
00:19.44WM-Seftmzt?
00:20.21WM-SefIt's an image, where I thought first it was JFFS2
00:20.28ToAsTcfhphh: how do i deal with a rom that uses a different ramdisk
00:20.35phhdon't know.
00:20.41ToAsTcfhi just want the flan ui
00:20.43phhWM-Sef: where did you get that ?
00:20.49WM-SefMaemo ;)
00:20.49ToAsTcfhbut its not an apk
00:21.04WM-Seftablet-dev.nokia.com
00:21.05phhToAsTcfh: what is it then ?
00:21.34WM-Sefbut how do I extract it?
00:21.36ToAsTcfhits androids new ui
00:21.46ToAsTcfhidk what it is
00:21.52phhlol
00:22.19ToAsTcfhwhere does android keep the ui they have now
00:23.41ToAsTcfhits all in the frameworks and shit
00:24.03ToAsTcfhits straight built into it
00:24.24ToAsTcfhno apk worries i guess
00:26.05ToAsTcfhphh: while u aint doin anything hook up my sensors!!!
00:26.11phhI do.
00:26.19phhi mean i do something
00:26.40ToAsTcfhoh i thought we were getting married
00:27.15ToAsTcfhwell hurry up and hook up my sensors when ur dne
00:27.19ToAsTcfhdone
00:27.26ToAsTcfhplease
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00:32.18phhtmzt: http://zimages.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/autobuild_system/htc-msm-android/zImage-modules-20091229_012155.tar
00:32.22phhthis kernel has NAT
00:32.51phhand vbus=1
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01:01.03Spirits-Sightany new updates for kaiser phones? (images)
01:01.56ToAsTcfhahh this rom is killin me
01:02.22ToAsTcfhphh: u still doin stuff
01:19.40polyrhythmicSpirits-Sight: Android, sure :)
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01:39.43zychomeine haare riechen wie meine musik - GOA IM WALD um 10:00 am morgen
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01:42.38Spirits-Sightpolyrhythmic: whats new with the Android on Kaiser?  the last I have is back in Nov
01:43.58ToAsTcfhphh:where did u go
01:43.58herpez2why guis
01:44.02herpez2any fix from phh build?
01:44.37ToAsTcfhum he did some shit before he left
01:44.41polyrhythmicSpirits-Sight: Donut builds have everything working and stable except Bluetooth
01:45.17polyrhythmicSpirits-Sight: I'm working on porting Eclair build, we're having issues getting it to suspend and camera and BT don't work... but man it's fast and it looks great on QVGA
01:45.19Spirits-Sightwhat the latest and best Donut build?
01:45.24polyrhythmichmmmmmmm
01:46.01Spirits-SightI was going to try it then I read that it does not like sleep so decide will wait
01:46.03Spirits-Sight:-)
01:46.11Spirits-Sightneed the sleep
01:46.24polyrhythmicman some AD on XDA is pegging my CPU
01:46.28polyrhythmicI'm about to adblocker it
01:47.23Spirits-Sightthat not cool
01:47.26polyrhythmicSpirits-Sight: I was using Zenulator's Droid-Ion Donut http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582810
01:48.26Spirits-Sightdoes it include the good gmail for the kaiser display at is native res
01:48.55polyrhythmicgood question, I don't recall
01:49.22Spirits-Sightit says its built for that so I will try it
01:50.22polyrhythmicSpirits-Sight: you should probably use the latest rootfs I updated to be Eclair-compatible, it works with Donut and has WiFi settings for Kaiser: http://www.filesavr.com/rootfs
01:52.31Spirits-SightI just try download the rootfs and it did not let me it gave a oops screen after I enter the image
01:53.43Spirits-SightOK I just download the Droid / ION build
01:53.57ICEMANno1hey guys
01:54.05ICEMANno1any update on the topaz port?
01:54.11ICEMANno1phh: ?
01:54.32ToAsTcfhi think hes gone.
01:54.41ToAsTcfhits been a while
01:54.42Spirits-Sightpolyrhythmic: OK I have right now a system that is using fat32/ext2/ext2 what do I do so that its good?
01:55.01ICEMANno1ToAsTcfh: do you have any update, apart from the forum?
01:55.10ToAsTcfhhes like always here
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01:55.32ToAsTcfhupdate?
01:55.36ICEMANno1on the topaz port?
01:55.56ToAsTcfhoh no
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01:56.02ICEMANno1k, thx
01:56.03ToAsTcfhim a herc user
01:56.03ToAsTcfhnp
01:56.25ToAsTcfhheroc
01:57.43ICEMANno1ahh, k
01:57.59ICEMANno1so, it's time for little ICE to go to bed ;)
01:58.01ICEMANno1cya guys around
01:58.10ToAsTcfhyeah im just here to aggevate
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02:01.32polyrhythmicoops, I was not fast enough
02:02.10ToAsTcfhfor what
02:02.25ToAsTcfhoh he left
02:02.31ToAsTcfhhehe
02:03.09ToAsTcfhpolyrhythmic: nice name
02:03.20polyrhythmicthanks :)
02:03.31ToAsTcfhwhere did u get it from
02:05.31polyrhythmicI've been a percussionist since I was 11
02:05.39ToAsTcfhsweet
02:05.49ToAsTcfhi play guitar
02:05.52polyrhythmicI like many different rhythms that move to the same beat :)
02:06.01ToAsTcfhi tried  drums but i sucked
02:06.07polyrhythmicI know my chords on guitar, but that's about it
02:06.32ToAsTcfhi can ho;d a beat on drums thats about it
02:06.42ToAsTcfh4/4 and 3/4
02:06.48ToAsTcfhthats it
02:06.57ToAsTcfh1/2
02:07.07ToAsTcfhthe fast metal shit
02:08.42polyrhythmicI like fast drums, I listen to a ton of drum n bass
02:09.54ToAsTcfhwhat music u play
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02:16.41DarkMasterHaloDid anyone notice in the Eclair build that when trying to dial a number, it becomes very slow on any key push ?
02:17.09DarkMasterHaloBut when closing the dialer, it becomes very fast...
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02:21.21ToAsTcfhwhat device
02:21.43ToAsTcfhwhats logcat  say
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02:23.20ToAsTcfhmadCoder: ping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
02:28.11tmztphh: still here? just pulled
02:29.03ToAsTcfhtmzt: where u been
02:29.29tmztphh: is vbus=1 committed
02:29.38tmztToAsTcfh: offline
02:29.45ToAsTcfhtrue
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02:30.39ToAsTcfhi seen maDcoder just logged back in i hope it wasnt cuz of the booting that happened a minute ago
02:31.28ToAsTcfhi hope he back im tired of trying to figure out whats wrong with his source
02:32.06tmztwith what?
02:32.19tmztI think he just converted the symbol table into .c
02:32.35tmztnot sure how he can help you when the problem is binder stuff
02:32.41ToAsTcfhsensors.heroc.so
02:32.42polyrhythmicDarkMasterHalo: I haven't had problems dialing, I'll pay more attention next time
02:32.52ToAsTcfhno not binder
02:33.00tmztwhat do you think was crashing?
02:33.02tmztif not binder
02:33.02ToAsTcfhhe wrote the driver
02:33.10tmztwhat driver?
02:33.14tmztdoes evtest work ok?
02:33.20ToAsTcfhwell its prolly the sensorsd
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02:56.11herpez2hi. i need a working terminal in android eclair, anyone can say me one
02:56.13herpez2?
03:01.55zychoiam asking for terminal since few wifi-release
03:02.03zychodoesn's work :<
03:05.30herpez2i downloaded lots but any work
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03:08.48zychosame here
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03:08.59zychocant install or cant start
03:09.31zychoand buildin terminal in latest build force a reboot into winmob
03:10.36herpez2if u find one, let me know :)
03:14.55zychothats for sure.. but i thint, i have tested every terminal app :>
03:20.36ToAsTcfhadb shell?
03:21.13ToAsTcfhor haretconsole
03:21.19ToAsTcfhor telnet
03:22.03ToAsTcfhconnectbot too
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03:25.12polyrhythmicherpez2: I have one
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03:26.31polyrhythmicherpez2, zycho: I'm uploading my Term.apk for Eclair now
03:26.47zychooh thanks!
03:27.05polyrhythmic:)
03:27.16polyrhythmicnow if we could just solve the Eclair suspend issue....
03:27.31zychohehe
03:27.46zychoi have to sleep soon
03:28.33herpez2thanks poly
03:28.33herpez2poly, what suspend issue???
03:29.13herpez2poly: whats ur term.apk size?
03:29.27polyrhythmic44.5 Kb
03:29.50polyrhythmicherpez2: G1 and Vogue/Kaiser ports of Android don't sleep
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03:31.15polyrhythmicherpez2, zycho: http://www.sendspace.com/file/l0ybk6
03:31.44polyrhythmicit's from manup456's Dream Eclair build, AFAIK
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03:36.11zychothanks a los
03:36.15zycho*lot
03:36.26zychoi have to sleep now :>
03:36.27herpez2THANKS
03:36.32herpez2zycho, test it?
03:36.35herpez2lol
03:36.38herpez2THANKS!
03:37.35herpez2sorry poly but i dont know of that "sleep"
03:37.44herpez2in mine black, the lcd dont shut off :(
03:40.01herpez2well, really thanks poly
03:40.05herpez2going out to sleep
03:40.08herpez2here its 3:40 am
03:40.10herpez2hasta!!!
03:43.45polyrhythmicit's all good
03:43.54polyrhythmicwhoops got distracted optimizing apps
03:44.14polyrhythmicthese guys gotta start using my nick so the bell will sound
03:45.52AstanHellbringanyone know the mtype for rhod400?
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04:40.14PaperBoyso does linux go on top of windows  or instead of it?
04:42.12AstanHellbringharet unloads windows and loads linux kernel
04:54.17PaperBoyreally
04:55.10AstanHellbringyah
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10:28.27tmztanybody know how to get chargemode to work on rhod?
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11:50.30phh[03:29:56] <tmzt> phh: is vbus=1 committed <------ yes
11:52.02phh[04:30:15] <polyrhythmic> herpez2: G1 and Vogue/Kaiser ports of Android don't sleep <--- G1 don't sleep either ? I'll try to fix that before them then ! :p
11:52.38phh[04:46:20] <AstanHellbring> anyone know the mtype for rhod400? <------ 2232 iirc
11:53.09phh<tmzt> anybody know how to get chargemode to work on rhod? <----- what's that ?
11:56.04Captnoordphh gj...... not yet bored reading the irc logs I see
11:56.29phhthey are quite short when I sleep :p
11:56.50Captnoordthats a bliss
12:20.28phhGlemSom: your kernel autobuild seems to have some problems, all gits are marked as dirty
12:20.36phhgit version I mean
12:21.24GlemSomphh, Well yeah... I do a slight modification to scripts/mkcompile_h... Does it cause any problems?
12:21.34phhdon't know
12:21.54phhI was just wondering
12:22.05FuZi0ngoooooooood morning!
12:22.20GlemSomIt is true... it is dirty, as I patch the tree after git checkout.. so my tree does not 100% match the gir tree (which is why it's marked as dirty)
12:22.37phhGlemSom: post git diff, I'll integrate it
12:23.04phhGlemSom: it's just that I was used to see the "dirty" comment in zImage version as a way to know it was a kernel I built by myself :D
12:23.09GlemSomphh, naah, it's not a fix - it's a hack so you'll see where the kernel is from
12:23.17GlemSom--- linux-msm/scripts/mkcompile_h.orig2009-12-28 22:20:03.000000000 +0100
12:23.17GlemSom+++ linux-msm/scripts/mkcompile_h2009-12-28 22:21:51.000000000 +0100
12:23.17GlemSom@@ -60,8 +60,8 @@
12:23.17GlemSom<PROTECTED>
12:23.17GlemSom<PROTECTED>
12:23.18GlemSom<PROTECTED>
12:23.20GlemSom-  echo \#define LINUX_COMPILE_BY \"`whoami`\"
12:23.22GlemSom-  echo \#define LINUX_COMPILE_HOST \"`hostname | $UTS_TRUNCATE`\"
12:23.24GlemSom+  echo \#define LINUX_COMPILE_BY \"GlemSom\"
12:23.26GlemSom+  echo \#define LINUX_COMPILE_HOST \"autobuild-service\"
12:23.28GlemSom<PROTECTED>
12:23.29phhoh ok
12:23.30GlemSom<PROTECTED>
12:23.32GlemSom<PROTECTED>
12:23.34phhfine
12:23.39GlemSomso, shouldn't break anything?
12:24.31GlemSomIs it breaking the detection of the module package?
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12:25.30GlemSomphh, i COULD hack setlocalversion aswell, so it wont mark it as dirty?
12:26.42phhit doesn't break anything
12:26.54phhfor setlocalversion, mmm yes
12:26.58phhmaybe even add a -glemsom tag :p
12:29.27GlemSomheh :P
12:30.24GlemSomOr maybe I should just do: git diff-index --name-only HEAD | grep  -v "^scripts/package\|mkcompile_h"   (To ignore my own patch)?
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12:31.02phhas you want
12:31.36FuZi0ninstall abduction for gods sake!
12:31.46phhlol
12:33.51FuZi0nits doing this on purpose
12:33.52FuZi0nstupid thing
12:34.09phh:)
12:34.33phhok... so I have two commits, one is adding NAT in the kernel config, one is setting vbus to 1, and the result is ..... the initramfs can't be mounted
12:34.45phhextracted*
12:35.28FuZi0nyay
12:35.50GlemSomkernel: b568a4d5bbff47b107a3c670b075c9a4bb1af1f3 was working fine (fore usb vbus to 1)
12:35.56CaptnoordGlemSom: lol.... why... git is made for this stuff... keep track of stuff while updating your own branch
12:36.27phhCaptnoord: oh I forgot that.
12:36.33phhGlemSom: just commit your change and it will be fine
12:36.55Captnoordyou can simply commit your stuff to your own repo
12:36.55GlemSomCaptnoord, It's a rather personal thing... It's simply so when people see kernel details, it will show as "GlemSom@autobuild-service" instead of "mythtv@mediecenter"... which could be a bit confusing
12:37.25phhand it's also useful when some noobs used my developer builds.
12:37.55FuZi0nNOOOOO 5971 x_X
12:38.09phhwhich mode ?
12:39.13FuZi0neasy
12:39.20FuZi0n:D
12:39.35phhah.
12:39.49GlemSomI just though about something... I don't need to patch... I just set "whoami" and "hostname" using an alias... that'll be waaaay easier to maintain! :D
12:40.31phhdo as you want :p
12:41.41FuZi0ni guess abduction is one of the main reasons why i want android
12:41.42FuZi0n:')
12:42.10phhI NEED TOPA OR RHOD USER !
12:42.35vawxphh: reporting for duty
12:42.56FuZi0nomfg i just couldn't get from the left side to the right side, where were the platforms :(
12:42.56phhvawx: you used my build with which kernel ?
12:43.15phhFuZi0n: you can go even lefter to go to the right side :p
12:43.23FuZi0noh
12:43.29phhvawx: the one in it ?
12:43.29FuZi0nwhy are you telling me this now?
12:43.29FuZi0n:(
12:43.48vawxused multiple kernels, currently number 2 from the autobuilds
12:43.54phhok
12:43.58phhvawx: wifi works ?
12:44.02vawxno
12:44.11phhweird.
12:44.15vawxif i press activate is just immidiately says failed
12:44.21phh?!?
12:44.37phhyou did put the modules-xxxxxxx.tar.gz file in the root of the sdcard ?
12:44.44vawxyes
12:44.46phhwith the right name
12:44.52vawxdepends what the right name is
12:45.08vawxi removed all those numbers save for kernel version
12:45.13phh.....
12:45.16phhthey are needed :p
12:45.19vawxok
12:45.24phhit needs to be the exact original filename
12:45.25vawxsorry haha
12:45.28phheven with the -dirty at the end :p
12:45.46vawxalright, i'll try that
12:45.47phhvawx: if it works I'll announce it in topaz thread as it seems you have no eclair build with wifi yet :D
12:46.04vawxor 3g for that matter, so if that somehow works ... :P
12:46.13phh3G doesn't work ?
12:46.37phhIf you didn't, download the *b* version
12:46.38GlemSomphh, You just HAD to say that? :P hehe (About the -dirty)
12:46.51phhGlemSom: yup :p
12:47.05vawxah, i have the old versio
12:47.08vawxhave a link to b?
12:47.17phhhttp://htcandroid.xland.cz/Eclair-2009-12-28b.7z
12:47.25phhonly the system.sqsh changes
12:47.52vawxright
12:48.04vawxgive me 5 minutes and i'll have it running :P
12:48.40vawxi do rename the zImage right? else it won't start
12:48.53phhyes
12:49.12phhGlemSom: i wonder if this zImage.xxxxxxxxxxxx is a good idea btw
12:49.20GlemSomI personally edit startup.txt instead of renaming the zImage...  it's reasier to switch between versions then...
12:49.23phhthe modules doesn't have the same naming
12:49.24phhah.
12:49.26phhgood point.
12:49.39vawxtrue that
12:49.40phhI always replace zImage
12:49.55phhand one I have to go I have no working zImage -_-'
12:49.57GlemSomphh, yeah, but - you don't use my kernels... you use your own? ;)
12:50.05vawxdo i need to start with clean data.img if i change system.sqsh?
12:50.06Captnoordphh and forget which build it was
12:50.17phhCaptnoord: too :D
12:50.25phhvawx: bah, let's say no :p
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12:52.41vawxbooting now
12:52.52WM-Sefwhat? :p
12:54.40CaptnoordWM-Sef: had any success?
12:55.44WM-Sefwith?
12:55.56WM-SefOh, with Maemo
12:56.00WM-SefWell
12:56.08WM-SefI need an tarred rootfs first
12:56.29phhvawx: so ? already frozen ?
12:56.39vawxphh: frozen no, wifi no
12:56.44WM-Sefmy playing with Ubifs had not any luck
12:56.45vawx3g yes
12:56.48phhvawx: strange, which error message ?
12:56.54WM-SefAndroid?
12:56.55WM-SefMer>
12:57.00vawxUnable to start wifi
12:57.03phhWM-Sef: android eclair on topa/rhod :p
12:57.10phhvawx: you're sure you didn't screw up with the modules again ? :p
12:57.10vawxbut 3g data works now
12:57.36vawxoh, data not... was just the icon :P
12:57.40vawxcould be wrong apn
12:57.55phhwho want a good joke ?
12:58.05phhthe last kernel is broken because of activating iptables
12:58.09phhthe kernel can't be bigger than 3MB.
12:58.16phh(uncompressed)
12:58.31vawxheeey, new keyboard ^^
12:58.43phhI'll have to fix haret \o/
12:58.44vawxlooks pixelated though hehe
12:58.46GlemSomphh, due to haret?
12:58.54WM-SefGlemSom
12:58.55phhvawx: I know :(
12:58.58WM-Sefdo you know
12:59.04phhGlemSom: don't ask after I answer :p
12:59.05WM-Sefhow to extract Ubifs?
12:59.15GlemSomphh, Ohh sorry.. Gotta read before i post :P hehe
12:59.38GlemSomphh, can se use bzImage instead?
12:59.48phhGlemSom: the problem is the *un*compressed Image
13:00.08GlemSomBut won't bzImage be smaller then zImage?
13:00.10phhwell I'll read the code, it's maybe a kernel bug not haret bug
13:00.23GlemSomor am I remembering wrong here...
13:00.24phhdon't know
13:00.26vawxmeh.. it froze
13:00.50phhvawx: so you're sure about the modulesxxxx.tar.gz file this time ?
13:01.08vawxnow your making me doubt :P
13:01.20GlemSomJust download it again.... vawx
13:01.27vawxyeah i did
13:01.36phhand didn't move modulesxxx in it ? :p
13:01.39vawx2nd file from autobuild
13:01.48vawxjust put it in root, renamed zImage
13:01.54phhbaaaahhh
13:04.26phhhum, in the kernel the initramfs is 8MB after the kernel image
13:06.36phhvawx: you have a working console or adb now on eclair ?
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13:06.49vawxnot yet
13:07.02phhsomeone posted here something
13:07.07phhhttp://www.sendspace.com/file/l0ybk6
13:07.11vawxadb just doesn't seem to see any devices
13:07.19phhyou have to run adb as root
13:07.30phhbut first killall adb
13:11.50vawxhuh, i looked away from the screen and now android just rebooted
13:11.53vawxand not into wimo
13:12.02vawxbut into android again
13:12.11phhit happens
13:12.19phh(meaning only android rebooted not the kernel btw)
13:13.45phhvawx: so you got the terminal app now ?
13:14.01vawxi do have terminal on android, not that one
13:14.04vawxbut i can install it
13:14.11phhwell just get one that works?
13:14.13phh-?+.
13:14.28vawxpTerminal, Terminal Emulator
13:14.30vawxgot thsoe 2
13:14.34phhthey work ?
13:14.47vawxyes
13:14.53phhok
13:14.56phhdo su then lsmod
13:15.03phhwhat says lsmod ?
13:15.39vawxhmm... su is somehow freezing the terminals
13:15.43phhoO
13:15.51phhmaybe just type enter ?
13:16.14phhtmzt: sorry for NAT then, it won't work until this size problem is fixed :/
13:16.52vawxactually... no commands work
13:16.56vawxthey used to
13:17.04vawxbut pressing enter on the keyboard just doesn't do anything
13:17.09phhbah
13:17.10phhrestart the app
13:17.15phhand don't do su.
13:19.11vawxok, got lsmod running
13:19.16phhwhat does it say ?
13:19.28phhjust the first column
13:19.39vawxramzswap xvmalloc
13:20.52phhvawx: no wlan ?
13:20.52phhwth.
13:20.53phhoh well yes no wlan, android has to load it.
13:20.53phhdmesg |grep wlan
13:20.53phhwhat does that say ?
13:20.53vawxwlan now
13:20.53vawxstarted wlan
13:21.17vawxthe keyboard has no |
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13:21.27phhyes it has, search better :p
13:21.32phh(ok i don't know on that IME)
13:21.34vawxoh they have the -- one :P
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13:23.40vawxmeh... grep doesn't seem to work :/
13:23.55phhdmesg > /sdcard/dm.txt
13:23.57phhand read dm.txt
13:23.59phhwill be easier :p
13:25.06vawxrebooting into wimo then
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13:29.58vawxugh... it didn't save?
13:30.36vawxreboot to get haret dm.txt... (yes i choose a different name in terminal for saving)
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13:32.00phhvawx: try latest kernel on glemsom's, usb should work a bit better
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13:34.27phhwell if adb doesn't work it won't help much.
13:37.50vawxwifi works
13:38.14vawxso unless it was because i forgot to actually turn on wifi in wimo... (idiot)...
13:39.53vawxi need to hit myself for being stupid lol
13:42.01vawxturning wifi off and on again makes it stop working
13:42.21vawxbut my 3g data is working too now
13:42.58vawxok not... was cache :/
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13:46.37phhvawx: I know for turning off
13:46.59phhanyway I'll announce it if both work :)
13:47.10vawx3g data didn't
13:47.15vawxit was just cache from wifi
13:48.05phh3G data doesn't work ?
13:48.33vawxafraid not
13:49.05phhI can't believe it.
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13:50.11phhyou did used the new system.sqsh from 28b ?
13:50.17vawxyes
13:50.26vawxthe 3g icon appeared
13:50.46vawxbut not the actual data connection
13:51.11phhit might take a while like 30s once the 3G icon appeard btw
13:51.50WM-Sefthey nearly finished the 3D drivers in Mer
13:52.04WM-SefI can't wait seeing it on my rhodium :D
13:53.00phh?!?
13:53.30phhit won't work on rhodium
13:53.30WM-Sefwhy?
13:53.34phhbecause rhodium is no N900 ?
13:53.34WM-SefI'm in Mer right npw
13:53.49phhyes and ?
13:53.55phhyou can use windows with both nvidia & ati cards
13:54.02phhit doesn't mean both drivers work for both cards
13:54.10WM-Sefyes
13:54.35WM-Sefbut it's generic OpenGL for qualcomm
13:54.49phhN900 has no qualcomm
13:54.49WM-Sefnot N900 only
13:54.58WM-Sefhehe
13:55.06WM-Sefhet dubbeltje valt :p
13:55.26phh?
13:55.42vawxkwartje joh
13:55.52phh...
13:56.02vawxbut are they porting 3d drivers for qualcomm for mer?
13:56.11WM-Sefyes ;)
13:56.16phhwhy ?
13:56.29WM-SefI don't know
13:56.32vawxsame reason you did for android i guess ^^
13:57.01WM-Sefbut they say that the 3D drivers are loading correctly
13:57.01phhvawx: well, they run N900 which is omap based ...
13:57.13phhWM-Sef: that's really hard to do.
13:57.29phhI think they said something else that just loading
13:57.30WM-SefI need to get myself an N900
13:57.49WM-Sefbut I don't have money for it :p
13:57.50phhwhy if 3D comes to rhod ?
13:58.11WM-SefIf mer with 3D comes to rhod
13:58.18WM-SefI don't buy an N900
13:58.34WM-Sefbut jyou just said, it WONT come to the rhod :p
13:58.43phhbah you seem sure that it will come ...
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13:58.52WM-Sefok
13:58.56WM-Sefbut when?
13:58.59WM-SefA year?
13:59.02WM-Seftoo long
13:59.17phhyou said it's nearly finished ...
13:59.24WM-SefI'm just Sick of WinMo that's all
13:59.26WM-Sefyes
13:59.30WM-Sefbut you said
13:59.34WM-SefIts for OMAP
13:59.48phhbah you said it's generic for qualcomm so ...
13:59.54phhi don't know what your sources are
14:00.02WM-Sefthe mer channe;
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14:00.45GlemSomThis will be active from now.
14:00.46GlemSom(No more calling my modules dirty...!) ;)
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14:01.23phhok
14:01.48WM-SefIs tmzt online?
14:01.56WM-Sefhe don't answer on MSN
14:02.34phhhe might be sleeping
14:02.43Captnoordyea people do that from time to time
14:02.50Captnoordlolz
14:02.52WM-Sefwake him up
14:02.54phhhis timezone is almost the opposite of our
14:03.10WM-SefJochem Myer - Wakker worden always works :D
14:03.39Captnoordplease...........
14:03.56phhCaptnoord: ?
14:04.31phhvawx: for data, we need adb working.
14:04.44vawxi'll try
14:04.55phhso use latest GlemSom's kernel
14:04.59phhreboot your computer
14:05.14phhrun a root shell on your computer (sudo -s) and then run adb shell from here
14:05.18phhit should work.
14:06.02Captnoordphh dutch funny guy who shares the same condition as I
14:06.14phhah.
14:06.30Captnoords/as I/as me
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14:11.00herpezgood morning! any idea about the orign of freezes?
14:11.08phhworking on it.
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14:11.28phhbut no idea at all yet
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14:11.47phhI guess it's somewhere in the  dozens commit jungle I did the last few days
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14:12.10herpezsee all the files you changed :p
14:12.15phhbut don't forget to always use latest kernel, I changed something that might have helped
14:12.21herpezspeccially the core ones
14:12.31herpezbut my system is so stable now...
14:12.35phhhaha
14:12.43herpezit crashed a lot at beguinning, but now its perfect
14:12.54herpezmay it be sms related?
14:13.12phhI don't think so
14:13.26herpezyesterday, i opened images gallery and android.process.media keeped crashing
14:13.38herpezand didnt let me go back so i needed to reset the phone
14:14.24phhsounds weird
14:14.49phhvawx: you forgot me ? :(
14:14.55vawxno
14:16.28herpezphh shall i change the original zimage to the last one?
14:16.37phhmmmm
14:16.44phhwell if it works for you maybe not
14:18.41phhwhat's the hell
14:18.46phhlabyrinth lite 3D is so slow
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14:24.50phhGlemSom: I love the comments for the current 2nd kernel :D
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14:25.16GlemSomphh, and the votes... all negative :P
14:25.33phhI would laugh a bit seeing a positive one :p
14:25.45vawxbrb
14:26.15GlemSomYou were commiting last night... and working again this morning... do you ever sleep?!?!
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14:26.53vawxjust did an ubuntu install on my laptop so i can at least do stuff without having to redo it every time i reboot the live cd
14:29.42phhGlemSom: I slept from 2am to 12pm ....
14:29.58GlemSom:P
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15:00.13vawxphh: ok i got linux running now. What do i do again for adb?
15:00.21phhsudo adb shell
15:00.34vawxdevice not found
15:05.18tmztwhat size?
15:05.39tmztthat's ok, I built a kernel your defconfig no paranoid
15:05.54tmztdon't see wl12xx anywhere though
15:06.02tmzthow are you building it?
15:06.50phhtmzt: you can start the kernel with NAT activated ?!?
15:07.06phhoh you don't use any initramfs ?
15:07.29phhgit clone git://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/compat-wireless-msm.git
15:07.38phhrun build.sh after editing its kernel path
15:08.11tmztrhod400 has an mtype?
15:08.12herpezphh: is gprs fixed?
15:08.12tmztwhy?
15:08.13WM-Seftmz
15:08.22phhherpez: uh? for a long time now
15:08.26phhtmzt: same for all rhod
15:08.29phh2232 iirc
15:08.32tmztI load modules from rootfs
15:08.47tmztokay, thanks
15:08.50herpezphh - in your release testerday and in the fix, still not working here and in some people...
15:08.59phhherpez: sounds weird
15:09.03phhherpez: adb logcat/adb logcat -b radio ?
15:09.27herpezphh if you could imagine how much am i fighting to have a terminal...
15:09.31tmztWM-Sef: don't know look it up or ask in #openmoko-cdevel but just ask question
15:09.34herpezdi downloaded 3, i manually installed 3
15:09.40herpezand ALL crashes
15:09.48tmztmake sure you tell them what fs your using
15:09.51phhherpez: someone posted here some that should work
15:10.07phhhttp://www.sendspace.com/file/l0ybk6
15:10.08herpeza guy poly posted yesterday one but not working...
15:10.09WM-Sefwhich linux?
15:10.12herpezi will check taht
15:10.13WM-Sefandroid again?
15:10.18tmztbut why are you using ubi anyway, it doesn't work on msm nand that I know of
15:10.18phhherpez: baahhh
15:10.23phhherpez: anyway you'll need adb
15:10.29herpezthat terminal...
15:10.34herpezi downloaded yesterday
15:10.36herpezand nothing
15:10.36phhok
15:10.42WM-Seftmzt
15:10.47tmztWM-Sef: not for us
15:10.52tmztwrong drivers
15:10.57WM-Sefok :p
15:11.20WM-Sefwhen the drivers for OUR mer are in development?
15:11.20tmzttouchscreen was working but trying to fix keyboard I might have broke it
15:11.29tmztwhen we write them
15:11.37WM-Sefhow do you fix
15:11.42WM-Sefthe touchscreen
15:11.48tmztI'm only working on 2d until there's a real fix
15:11.57tmztsearch for 'xinput darkstar'
15:12.01WM-Sefyeah ok
15:12.06tmztyou see a log from here
15:12.09tmztget that script
15:12.32tmztopps now you'll see me telling you what to search for too
15:12.37herpezcan it be because of screen resolution? (the term not working?)
15:12.40WM-Sefon which forum?
15:12.45tmztgoogle
15:13.15WM-SefI see a log
15:13.18WM-Sefand now?
15:13.50tmztthe link
15:13.56tmztdownload that script
15:14.02WM-Sefbugs.archlinux.org/task/12179?getfile=2709
15:14.05tmztpointercal to xinput
15:14.07tmztno
15:14.18WM-Sefgive me link of the script?
15:14.19tmztpointercal_to_xinput.sh
15:14.24tmztI can't
15:14.32tmztsearch google
15:14.52WM-Sefcan't find it :p
15:15.25WM-Sefyeah
15:15.28WM-Sefgot it
15:15.33WM-Sefand now?
15:18.33tmzthttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=pointercal_to_xinput.sh&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
15:18.36tmztok
15:18.56tmztcopy that to your rootfs
15:19.03tmztyou can ssh to mer right?
15:19.10WM-Sefwait
15:19.28WM-SefI'm going to my big Tux brother :p
15:24.36vawxsigh... adb still says device not found >.<
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15:25.55WM-Sefback
15:26.08WM-Sefneed to have 2 lines in my interfaces
15:26.10WM-Sefauto lo
15:26.13WM-Sefand auto usb0
15:26.15WM-Sefright>?
15:26.40tmztno
15:26.44tmztmore than that
15:26.57tmztbut at least those two
15:27.36WM-Sefok
15:27.53WM-Sefwhat more?
15:28.41tmztthe file Sts gave you
15:28.48tmztexcept split the auto lines
15:29.47WM-SefI don't have that file no more
15:29.49WM-Sefit's expired
15:31.09tmztyou don't have it saved somewhere?
15:31.18tmztiface lo inet loopback
15:31.27tmztiface usb0 inet static
15:31.35WM-Sefyes
15:31.40tmzt(tab) address 192.168.2.15
15:31.50tmzt(tab) netmask 255.255.255.0
15:31.59tmztauto lo
15:32.01tmztauto usb0
15:32.28WM-Sefok
15:38.18WM-Sefphh told me this
15:38.27WM-Sef<PROTECTED>
15:38.39WM-Sefbut if I do it
15:38.41WM-Sefit says
15:38.46WM-Sefno route to host]
15:38.58phhuh ? not for mer
15:39.06tmztwe just changed the ip
15:39.09WM-Sefok
15:39.18tmzt192.168.2.14 on your pc
15:39.39WM-Sefand then?
15:39.48tmztyou'll also need to either set a password or add a key to .authorized_hosts
15:41.02tmzt.authorized_keys
15:41.04tmztI mean
15:41.16WM-SefIn which map?
15:41.29tmzthuh?
15:41.58tmztjust see if ssh will let you try to login
15:44.07WM-Sefwhat do I need to set in my /etc/network/interfaces in my rootfs?
15:44.32WM-Sefcopy paste pastebin.com
15:44.59tmztwhat
15:45.04tmztI gave it to you
15:45.07tmztabove
15:45.15WM-Sef<tmzt> iface lo inet loopback
15:45.15WM-Sef<tmzt> iface usb0 inet static
15:45.15WM-Sef<WM-Sef> yes
15:45.15WM-Sef<tmzt> (tab) address 192.168.2.15
15:45.15WM-Sef<tmzt> (tab) netmask 255.255.255.0
15:45.15WM-Sef<tmzt> auto lo
15:45.17WM-Sef<tmzt> auto usb0
15:45.26WM-Sefnow the computer is getting confused
15:45.30tmztyes
15:45.35tmztconfused?
15:45.40WM-Seffirst you told its static
15:45.49WM-Sefthen you told its auto
15:45.59tmztno
15:46.07tmztauto means bring it up at boot
15:46.31tmztif you just do auto it either fails or brings up with no ip
15:46.40tmztdon't remember which
15:47.36WM-Sefwhere do I need to place my ssh key
15:47.46WM-Sef(generated on my computer)
15:48.33tmztcat .ssh/id_rsa.pub >> $mer/root/.ssh/authorized_keys
15:48.43tmztmkdir $mer/root/.ssh
15:52.20WM-Sefso I need to copy
15:52.29WM-Sefid_rsa.pub
15:52.31WM-Sefto
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15:52.51WM-Sef<PROTECTED>
15:54.21tmztwhat?
15:54.38tmzt$mer is the top of the rootfs
15:54.46tmztjust copy the commands
15:56.12WM-Sefok
15:56.20WM-Sefbooting now
15:57.24phhI hate fighting with closed-source drivers.
15:58.02WM-Seffrom what>
15:58.10WM-Seftmzt
15:58.12WM-Sefand now?
15:58.21WM-Sefbooted mer with usb connected
15:58.46tmztphh: ?
15:58.54phhi'm trying to get 3D working again.
15:59.01tmztbring up your usb0
15:59.04WM-Sefsudo ifconfig 192.168.2.14?
15:59.12tmztadd usb0
15:59.17WM-Sefsudo ifconfig usb0 192.168.2.14
15:59.23WM-Seflike so?
16:00.01tmztyes
16:00.05tmztthe login
16:00.07tmztthen
16:00.31WM-Sefssh root@192.168.2.15
16:00.31WM-Sefssh: connect to host 192.168.2.15 port 22: No route to host
16:00.39WM-Sefwtf?
16:00.46phh<PROTECTED>
16:01.04tmztyes
16:01.11tmztor click the enable networking
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16:01.37WM-Sefsudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop
16:01.38WM-Sefsudo: /etc/init.d/NetworkManager: command not found
16:02.08phhkillall5 -9 might help... or not.
16:02.09tmztyeah
16:02.13tmztnot anymore
16:02.19tmztstop network-manager
16:02.29tmztsudo stop network-manager
16:02.38phhhu ? such a command exists ?
16:02.40tmztin karmic
16:02.42tmztyes
16:02.42phhok
16:02.47WM-Sefno luck
16:02.48tmztpart of upstart
16:03.01tmztthen uncheck enable networking
16:03.12tmztor
16:03.14WM-Sefwhere?
16:03.19tmztedit interfaces
16:03.23tmztadd auto usb0
16:03.30WM-Sefon computer?
16:03.33tmztyes
16:04.47WM-Sefssh: connect to host 192.168.2.15 port 22: No route to host
16:05.11WM-Sefthis is driving me nuts
16:05.28tmztbring it up again
16:05.37WM-Sefhow?
16:05.48tmztsame as before
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16:06.06WM-Sefsudo ifconfig usb0 192.168.2.14?
16:06.14tmztyes
16:06.17WM-Sefdone it
16:06.22WM-Sefstill no route to host
16:06.50tmztis it up on the phone yet?
16:06.56WM-Sefyes
16:07.02WM-Seftimezone screen
16:07.31WM-Sefssh 192.168.2.14 is conection refused
16:07.37tmztok
16:07.38tmztgood
16:07.43tmztwait
16:07.47phh*15*
16:07.48tmzt14 is you
16:07.50phhstop sshing 14
16:07.57WM-Sefyes
16:08.04WM-Sefif I ssh 15
16:08.10WM-Sefno route to host
16:08.23tmztthen bring it up
16:08.31tmztdid you add auto usb0?
16:08.36tmzton pc
16:08.38WM-Sefyes
16:08.44tmztor use the dialog in nm applet
16:08.50tmztedit interface...
16:09.55WM-Sefhow?
16:10.05WM-Sefoh so
16:11.09WM-SefIfupdown (usb0)
16:11.11WM-Seflast used
16:11.13WM-Sefnever
16:12.59WM-SefI don't get it
16:13.05WM-Sefwhatever I try
16:13.11WM-SefI can't connect
16:13.15WM-Sefwhile you can
16:13.50tmztare you on karmic
16:13.58tmztI can, hut it doesn't work well
16:14.48WM-Sefyes
16:14.53WM-SefI'm on karmic
16:16.40tmztdelete that ifupdown
16:16.56tmztalso remove from /etc/netowkr/interfaces
16:17.09tmztthen add in that list as auto under ipv4
16:17.40phhhum, are there some android eclair native devices running a msm7k ?
16:18.10WM-Sefcan't delete it
16:18.18tmztok
16:18.20WM-Sefdelete and edit grayed out
16:18.22tmztremove from the file
16:18.27tmztand it should go away
16:19.25tmztphh: what do y9u need? official/kernel/what?
16:19.31phhofficial rom
16:19.37phhthe GLES libs
16:19.52phhhum kernel too
16:19.57tmztwhat's changed?
16:20.06vawxisn't hero being update to 2.0?
16:20.08phhdriver API...
16:20.11tmztmd5 of libhgl enough to start?
16:20.16tmztoh
16:20.28tmztto drm or just some ioctl changes in pmem?
16:20.48phhthe API between the android's GLES glue and the libhgl
16:21.00tmztah
16:21.01phhand some ioctl changes with pmem and hw3d
16:21.05WM-Seftmzt
16:21.14WM-Sefcan I add the script in the rootfs
16:21.15tmztyou can fix the kernel stuff?
16:21.23WM-Sefso I don't need ssh
16:21.34tmztwhat?
16:21.38WM-SefI'm getting sick of it
16:21.50tmztyou can't do much of anything without it
16:21.54WM-Sefssh don't just work
16:21.58tmztthough you can disable X
16:22.10tmztand use console with keyboard
16:22.19tmztwith new enough kernel
16:22.25WM-Sefyes
16:22.35WM-Sefbut special keys don't work
16:22.52WM-Sefbut I need ssh
16:23.05WM-Sefwhy it just won't work
16:23.16WM-SefI did everything you said
16:23.19tmztare you on wifi?
16:23.19WM-Sefand it keeps
16:23.22WM-Sefyes
16:23.32tmztwell, it's not easy
16:23.38tmztdid you remove auto usb0?
16:23.39WM-Sefrepeating no route to host
16:23.47WM-Seffrom what?
16:23.48WM-Sefno
16:23.53tmztyou have to bring the interface up a few times
16:24.01tmztfrom /etc/network/interfaces
16:24.21WM-Sefauto usb removed
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16:26.24WM-Sefkeeps getting no route to host :/
16:27.55tmztdoes nm see usb0 now?
16:28.06tmztgo to edit interfaces ...
16:28.14tmzton the applet menu
16:28.30WM-Sefyes
16:28.35WM-Sefbut I cant edit it
16:28.45WM-Sefthe edit button is grayed out
16:28.52tmztis it auto usb0 now?
16:28.59tmztor still ifupdown
16:29.06WM-SefIfupdown
16:29.06tmztgo to terminal
16:29.10WM-Sefyes
16:29.15tmztsudo restart network-manager
16:29.23tmztnot yes
16:29.28tmztshould be auto usb0
16:29.31tmzt:wi 11
16:30.24WM-Sefauto usb0
16:30.24WM-Sefwoohooo
16:30.38WM-Sefwhat next?
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16:30.45tmztbring it up
16:30.47tmztagain
16:30.52WM-Sefhow?
16:31.02tmztYellowGTO|Nix: ubuntu questions?
16:31.08tmztsame as before
16:31.12WM-Sefsudo ifconfig usb0 ip?
16:31.16tmztyes
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16:31.43WM-Sefyes
16:31.43WM-Sefdone
16:31.50WM-Sefssh keeps no route to host
16:32.01tmzthmm
16:32.09tmztifconfig usb0 is right?
16:32.22WM-Sefyes
16:32.36tmztroute -n
16:32.50tmzthave you tried ping?
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16:32.58tmztguess that gives dhu?
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16:33.25WM-Sefdestination host unreachable
16:33.32tmztyes
16:33.38tmztand it's still up?
16:33.45tmztso the other side isn't
16:33.46WM-Sefyes
16:33.54tmztmeaning you interfaces is wrong
16:34.01tmztor the nm link needs removed
16:34.03tmztyeah
16:34.06tmztthat's it
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16:34.33tmztmv $mer/etc/init.d/NetworkManager $mer/root/
16:34.38YellowGTO|Nix_Fuck man
16:34.42YellowGTO|Nix_This wind is screwing everything up
16:34.55tmztyour cable?
16:34.57YellowGTO|Nix_Keeps knocking over trees
16:35.01tmztah
16:35.04YellowGTO|Nix_And my power keeps going out
16:35.08YellowGTO|Nix_And my cable is going in an out
16:35.25WM-SefI need to go
16:35.27WM-Sefttyl
16:35.29YellowGTO|Nix_What happened was the 24in of snow melted
16:35.35tmztyeah
16:35.46YellowGTO|Nix_Made the ground really soggy now the wind is blowing super hard and ripping out the trees
16:35.56tmztwow
16:36.05YellowGTO|Nix_Stupid nature
16:36.38YellowGTO|Nix_I think i'm buying a gen. next month
16:37.05tmztwith ats?
16:37.15tmztget diesel probably
16:37.28tmzthow big is the place?
16:37.40tmztor just go with ups for your cable modem and router
16:37.53tmztyou can't help that the cable goes out
16:38.01YellowGTO|Nix_Its like 1600 Sqft
16:40.23YellowGTO|Nix_They should make a plug on my car
16:40.26YellowGTO|Nix_So I can just idle it
16:40.27YellowGTO|Nix_LoL
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17:05.30ICEMANno1RE#
17:05.47ICEMANno1phh: any testing needed?
17:05.52tmztaudio stuff?
17:05.58tmztwere you working on
17:06.04phhstill no result
17:06.15ICEMANno1I would test anything on my topaz
17:06.21ICEMANno1to support the progress
17:06.21tmztwhat was adding the other amss's for?
17:06.34phhtmzt: sound :p
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17:08.30ICEMANno1phh:  does the sound work on the initrd so far?
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17:08.34phhno
17:08.34ICEMANno1too bad
17:08.34phhonce it works in initrd, it should work on android with my build :p
17:09.03ICEMANno1so how can we procceed to discover some problems with it?
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17:09.41phhreverse what wince does
17:10.26ICEMANno1k, first i'll try to connect with your initrd via ssh
17:10.37phhdon't, I have no idea how to do that
17:10.53ICEMANno1didn't you tell me last time?
17:11.31tmztuse gizard 0.2
17:11.34ICEMANno1?
17:11.34tmztmuch eaiser
17:11.42tmztlinwizard project
17:11.54tmztrepack as cpio.gz
17:12.18ICEMANno1do you have somewhere a easy tut?
17:12.37tmzteasy
17:12.48tmztmount it with ubuntu (it's an old squashfs)
17:12.53tmztcp -r
17:13.04phhwhy cp to make a cpio ?
17:13.12tmztoh
17:13.13tmztright
17:13.15tmztthanks
17:13.25tmztcd mnt
17:13.25phhcd /where/is/mounted/this/thing
17:13.25phhfind |sudo cpio -o -H newc |gzip -c > ../initrd.gz
17:13.30tmztyes
17:13.38tmztright thanks for typing
17:13.46phhI don't type I copy pasted :p
17:14.04phha 50klines long history isn't that useless.
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17:14.11phh(I mean s hell history)
17:14.20phhGlemSom: you have a type s/Andrid/Android/ on your page :p
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17:19.32phhICEMANno1: oh but you can try my android build
17:19.45ICEMANno1yeah, why not
17:19.46phhmobile data doesn't work for vawx, I'd like to know if it's for every topa/rhod or not
17:19.54ICEMANno1bad idea
17:19.54phhhttp://htcandroid.xland.cz/Eclair-2009-12-28b.7z
17:19.59tmztI have data on cdma part
17:20.05tmztsorry
17:20.08tmztnot android
17:20.13ICEMANno1i dont habe a mobile falt which will be already a heavy bill this month
17:20.34phhICEMANno1: ah.
17:20.45tmztfalt?
17:21.17tmzttry linwizard.wiki.sf.net
17:21.24tmztor wiki.linwizard.sf.net
17:21.33tmztgizard 0.2 is small
17:21.53phhICEMANno1: you can still try it :D
17:23.05ICEMANno1tmzt: didn't try gizard so far
17:23.11ICEMANno1phh: i could, true :D
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17:25.57vawxmaybe iceman CAN get adb working?
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17:27.45ICEMANno1i already uses adb logcat fine
17:27.55phhvawx: haha !
17:27.59ICEMANno1used
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17:28.03vawxouch
17:28.05ICEMANno1some time ago, i think
17:28.19vawxhow did you get that working? :P
17:28.23vawxi keep getting device not found
17:28.27ICEMANno1dunno
17:28.38ICEMANno1where can i get the current 1.6 build
17:28.52phhwhy don't you try my eclair ? :'(
17:29.02tmztis it looking for a certain vend/prod?
17:29.13phhtmzt: I use hero's one anyway
17:29.59tmztfor the adb function
17:30.04tmzthas it's own
17:30.06ICEMANno1phh: i'll try your eclair, but i will also try to disable radio asap
17:30.12vawxlsub gives 0bb4 and 0c02
17:30.12tmztlook at the kernel source
17:30.18tmztwrong
17:30.22tmztunplug and replug
17:30.40vawxalways gives that
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17:32.34phhICEMANno1: run adb wait-for-device shell rm /dev/smd7
17:32.37phhit should work quite well :p
17:32.46phhoh well do adb wait-for-device shell rm /dev/smd7 /dev/smd1
17:32.50phhi'm not sure who it is
17:32.56ICEMANno1:D
17:33.03vawx7 = umts data
17:33.05vawxi think
17:33.09vawxread that somewhere :p
17:33.17phhdon't know if 1 is cdma or if it's 7
17:33.24phhoh right 1 is named "diag" so it's cdma.
17:34.25ICEMANno1at which point do i type this comand
17:34.54phhbefore starting android
17:35.32ICEMANno1what did u do to android/kernel with your build?
17:36.38phhI think it's the first android build for topa/rhod that has wifi
17:37.02ICEMANno1k, but it doesnt look to tpoaz conform :D (the startup)
17:37.16vawxpfah, looks cooler :P
17:37.23ICEMANno1isn'T the mytpe different
17:37.29phhICEMANno1: yes you have to change it
17:37.35vawxoh startup.txt :p
17:37.44vawxshould be 2293
17:38.16phhyes
17:38.25ICEMANno1msmts_calib should be different
17:38.31phhyes also :/
17:38.36ICEMANno1same with lcd.density
17:38.37phhI'll have to make a set of startup files :/
17:38.47phhlcd.density is setted to your own will :p
17:39.05vawxset ramsize 0x6000000
17:39.07vawxset ramaddr 0x10000000
17:39.08vawxset mtype 2293
17:39.10vawxset KERNEL zImage
17:39.11ICEMANno1i dont even know what it does:D
17:39.11vawxset initrd initrd.gz
17:39.13vawxpwf dm.txt 0x8e0000 0x20000
17:39.14vawxset cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmts_calib=0x395.0x3c9.0x79.0x77 msmvkeyb_toggle=off"
17:39.16vawxboot
17:39.18vawxthat's what i use now
17:39.42ICEMANno1wifi is new...
17:39.49ICEMANno1how does the lcd.density?
17:39.54makkonenanyone on the GSM side having constant slowdowns under eclair?
17:40.15phhmakkonen: not just slowdowns, but total freezes.
17:41.46makkonenOn my first boot (well, second), it didn't freeze... but it would seemingly lockup for minutes at a time... screen would shut off... then I'd hit the top power button twice, and it'd come back on... I'd have a couple seconds to click buttons, and then it'd hang for another couple minutes.
17:42.07makkonenis the ramconsole back to 0x8e0000 for everything?
17:42.14phheverything but gsm diamond
17:42.22ICEMANno1vawx, phh: what does lcd.density do?
17:42.33phhICEMANno1: change the apparent size
17:42.35vawxsort of like DPI
17:42.44ICEMANno1ahh, k
17:42.46phhif you set it higher everything will look bigger
17:43.04ICEMANno1k
17:43.08vawxi personally like the look of 210, but some apps get scaled to only part of the screen so i use 240
17:43.44ICEMANno1phh: what does clock-7x00.a11=500 do?
17:43.45itchy8meanyone had any success with mer on the blackstone?
17:43.48phhICEMANno1: nothing
17:44.03phhitchy8me: I had working touchscreen & wifi
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17:44.16itchy8me:-D.. had..?
17:44.18ICEMANno1phh: so why is it in there?
17:44.20ICEMANno1:D
17:44.26phhICEMANno1: baaaaahhh
17:44.35phhitchy8me: I deleted it in the meantime :/
17:45.03vawxphh: wifi does work nice now btw, full signal, connects at boot/resume
17:45.24phhvawx: bah it works the same as the topaz' donut releases no ?
17:45.55itchy8mephh: how did you build it? or is there a build available somewhere?
17:46.00vawxsort of, didn't use that one much with wifi
17:46.06vawxas i already had data anyway :p
17:46.06phhitchy8me: i used 0.16 for smartq5
17:46.23phhvawx: get adb or data working ! :p
17:46.58vawxcan't i just adb over wifi? :p
17:47.06phhoh right
17:47.12phhI don't remeber the syntax though
17:47.27phhADBHOST=<ip of the phone>
17:47.28phhI'd guess
17:47.39ICEMANno1do i need rm /dev/smd7 or /dev/smd1
17:47.47itchy8mephh: the rootfs version?
17:47.57phhitchy8me: tar.gz iirc
17:48.03phhanyway it's the same thing
17:48.18ICEMANno1phh: ?
17:48.32phhICEMANno1: smd7
17:48.35ICEMANno1thc
17:48.37ICEMANno1thx
17:48.59phhbut it is regenerated for every boot, so install toggledata asap
17:49.17ICEMANno1toggledata? do you have it?
17:49.26phhyes
17:49.59phhhttp://husson.hd.free.fR/com.camurphy.toggledata.apk
17:50.02phhit's a widget
17:50.17ICEMANno1thx
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17:52.38WM-Sefmanaged to get a bit further :D
17:52.57WM-Sefwhen I ping 192.168.2.15
17:53.05WM-Sefit simply does nothing
17:53.09WM-Sefgood thing is
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18:03.55phhvawx: it works through wifi ?
18:04.03vawxnah
18:04.22phhwhat's happening ?
18:04.31vawxjust nothing
18:04.41phhuh ?
18:04.55WM-Sefawww
18:05.05WM-SefHost unreachable again
18:06.29GlemSomphh: GlemSom: you have a type s/Andrid/Android/ on your page :p  <--- Thanks - fixed. :)
18:07.43itchy8mephh: you use the msm virtual keyboard (on mer)
18:07.46itchy8me?
18:08.10phhitchy8me: mmmm don't remember
18:08.22phhI think so
18:08.54makkonencouple random questions: does tiwlan work with donut? I built wlan.ko and wrapped it up in a modules-2.6.27-blahblah.tar.gz, I could see it loading in dmesg, but it would fail to scan. (on RAPH800)
18:09.08phhmakkonen: no
18:09.13phhonly eclair
18:09.26WM-Sefhow to ssh to my phone, guys?
18:09.39phhWM-Sef: juust do what we tell you to do ! :p
18:09.51WM-Sefyeah
18:09.54WM-SefI did that
18:10.07phhit doesn't seem so from my point of view.
18:10.10WM-Sefnetwork/interfaces is good
18:10.18WM-Sefrsa key is in place
18:10.20makkonenand how do I build compcache (xvmalloc/ramzswap)... I modified the build.sh from compat-wireless (i.e. passing KLIB_BUILD=$KERNEL_PATH) and it built, but I'm pretty sure in the scroll at startup, it was failing to insert the modules.
18:10.34makkonenphh: cool. at least the problem with tiwlan's not something special on my end.
18:10.57makkonenthough the problem with eclair definitely IS something special on my end.
18:12.12phhmakkonen: the failing modules are maybe not this one
18:12.21WM-Sefcan you tell me how to ssh?
18:12.31WM-SefI've done
18:12.40WM-Sefeverything you said
18:12.46WM-Sefbut it keeps
18:12.51WM-Sefno route to host
18:13.59makkonen~ramconsole
18:14.00aptramconsole is probably pwf dm 0x8e0000 0x20000
18:14.09WM-Sefin my nm-applet
18:14.19phhI told you to kill nm.
18:14.35WM-Sefthen is my internet connection gone
18:14.52WM-Sefand I've allready tried that ;)
18:14.57makkonenthat ramconsole is still messed up on my phone.
18:14.57WM-Sefno luck
18:15.15phhmakkonen: MrPippy is facing the same problem
18:15.21makkonenok, cool.
18:15.28makkonenonce again... at least it's not just me. :-p
18:15.51MrPippyyeah i don't think i've tried that location but i haven't seen one that works
18:17.36MrPippycan linux dump a backtrace to a block device (like a partition on a SD card)?
18:19.29phhI'd say yes, but I can't see how :/
18:20.17phhhave you tried at the end of GPU0 ?
18:21.06phhsomething like 0x800000 size=0x100000
18:21.42MrPippyyeah i'll try that
18:21.50MrPippydon't know if wince uses the smi for anything
18:22.05phhthis place can't be anything else than GPU0
18:22.13phhwell, maybe SPL
18:24.10MrPippyand is gpu0 7MB or 8MB?
18:24.32makkonenI had it work once at 0x8e0000, but I don't know how and it wasn't consistent.
18:24.33phhI setted it to 8MB in pmem.c, so I guess it's 8MB
18:24.55phhiirc i've seen that 9MB is available from SMI, so it fits
18:25.28phhwell available ... not really.
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18:32.17herpezhi phh, i have a terminal now!
18:32.38ICEMANno1herpez: how?
18:33.27makkonenMrPippy: You bothered with eclair at all?
18:33.48MrPippynot yet, i'm bringing my kernel tree up to date and then i'm going to try it
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18:34.18herpezICEMANno1 - i installed ALL the apps i could, i downloaded them from google and manually added them to appsfolder and suddenly it appeaed on dev tools
18:34.27herpezICEMAN - need help on it?
18:34.45ICEMANno1dev tools
18:34.49ICEMANno1lemme check
18:45.56ICEMANno1herpez: no aah within dev tools
18:46.12ICEMANno1ssh: wifi doesnt work with your build
18:46.29ICEMANno1i mean phh wifi doesnt work with your build
18:47.15Captnoordlol
18:47.22Captnoordmaybe you should load the wifi module
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18:48.47vawxhaha nice wireless power. i pulled out the battery and the screen stayed on ^^
18:48.51herpezicemanno1, wanna help to put it working?
18:49.20herpezphh - how can i see if cpu is full sleep working using terminal?
18:49.35ICEMANno1herpez: yes!!!
18:49.40herpezu said me a command, something like xxx | grep "full sleep"
18:49.44herpezok, let me check
18:50.40ICEMANno1herpez: which apps do i need?
18:51.02Captnoordherpez: good question but maybe you can add printk's to the kernel to see
18:51.07Captnoordand dump the mem console afterwards
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18:51.23phhherpez: dmesg |grep "exit suspend"
18:51.25phhor exit sleep
18:51.41phhand double check your zImage/modules for wif
18:51.48phhdownload fresh onese on glemsom to be sure
18:51.55herpeziceman - go to market, download terminal emulator (helloandroid.com)
18:52.04herpezand i will sen u the apps
18:52.22ICEMANno11st problem, how to access market with no wifi
18:52.46herpezhum. i download for u
18:52.54ICEMANno1awsome, thx
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18:55.33vawxiceman, wifi should work on topaz
18:55.44vawxactivate it in wimo first though
18:56.01ICEMANno1vawx: could try that
18:58.00makkonenphh: it says something about invalid module format when it tries to load ramzswap. I'm building them with 'make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-eabi- KLIB_BUILD=/home/blahblahblah/linux-msm'
18:58.14ICEMANno1but first i have to wait for some apps from herpez
18:58.36makkonenI guess when I switch back to donut and can save dmesg output I can get a more accurate log.
18:59.50herpezice : wanna task manager???
19:00.04ICEMANno1want everything :)
19:00.27blast3rwould anyone be willing to help me out with a cdma phone and linux/android
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19:01.03herpezHi babijoee!!!
19:01.17babijoeehi, i was on before as joee_
19:01.23babijoeeguess no-one recognised me
19:01.45makkonenblast3r: what's your question? I'll help if I can.
19:02.26herpezbabijoee: you were undercover
19:02.57makkonenbabijoee: your name is your brand. no one cares about someone with only half your name. :-p #htc-linux is a cold, hard place.
19:03.10phhmakkonen: it means you didn't build the kernel and the module against the same commit
19:03.10ICEMANno1is still on hold ;)
19:03.10phhor you dirtied it somewhere
19:03.22phhhi babijoee
19:03.31makkonenhuh. I thought i was pretty careful. I'll run it again all in one go.
19:03.43blast3rat the moment im trying to run mrpippys zimage on android 1.6 loading from haret .5.2 aside from not having a mic, android.process seems to "end unexpectedly" quite often
19:03.44babijoeeokay i'll go to my corner
19:03.59babijoeeanyway i dl the latest zimage and it still doesnt wanna adb
19:04.02ICEMANno1sounds like babijoee is pretty important and famouse :)
19:04.02babijoee=/
19:04.27babijoeei'm like brad pitt
19:04.42ICEMANno1hes just famouse
19:04.43phhbabijoee: lsusb show the device ?
19:04.45ICEMANno1not important
19:04.48ICEMANno1:D
19:04.58babijoeeyes
19:05.25phhbabijoee: run adb as root
19:05.35phhkillall -9 adb ; sudo adb shell
19:07.04makkonenblast3r: tracking down bugs in cdma android is... difficult at this point. and I don't really know what to do with the information when I get it. That sounds like a pretty common occurence, though.
19:08.00phhmakkonen: MrPippy btw, you should do a proper branch somewhere, maybe clone my repo on gitorious
19:08.16blast3rok, not much of a problem just was wondering if there was a quick fix somewhere, has there been a build that allows the mic on a cdma phone to work?
19:09.33MrPippyi read that someone had luck on another phone by making a call in winmo, then running haret and booting into linux while still in the call
19:09.53phhMrPippy: yup, that works on rhod/topa
19:10.04makkonenMrPippy: to what purpose?
19:10.17MrPippyto make the mic work in-call in android
19:10.30makkonenah. neat.
19:10.46blast3rill try it right now, thank you
19:10.47babijoeephh: adb (3575) operation not permitted
19:11.08phhsudo killall -9 adb ?
19:11.12babijoeeyeah
19:11.27ICEMANno1herpez: could u try again plz
19:11.38phhbah xda's down
19:13.00babijoeephh: when you connect your usb to the phone does it pop up the process.android.media has stop working unexpectedly?
19:13.22phhno
19:13.34ICEMANno1vawx: wifi still doesnt work
19:13.35babijoeeit does that everytime for mine =/
19:13.37phh<PROTECTED>
19:13.41phhICEMANno1: it works for vawx :p
19:13.44babijoeeyeah
19:13.56phhbabijoee: I didn't try that
19:14.05phhbabijoee: maybe try a new data.img :D
19:14.11babijoeefor earlier builds i could do that and it works
19:14.15babijoeeah k
19:14.34phhsometimes I have such random bugs and removing data.img helps
19:14.39phhI don't know why
19:15.10ICEMANno1vawx: i was able to enable and discover the networks
19:15.20ICEMANno1but when i connect to my wpa2 network didn't work
19:15.34babijoeeoh ok
19:15.44phhICEMANno1: I can't see how this can happen ...
19:15.54ICEMANno1same here :(
19:16.04phhICEMANno1: no mac filtering I guess ?
19:16.13ICEMANno1nope, no mac filter
19:16.48ICEMANno1the network overview says, the wifi key is saved
19:16.57ICEMANno1and when i push on it and say connect
19:17.09ICEMANno1the window dissapears and nothing happens
19:17.22phhbabijoee: btw, opengl is actually totally broken in latest build
19:17.44babijoeeah ok
19:17.51phhit uses software rendering
19:17.51babijoeei'll update the first post
19:18.11phhI'll try your previous releases, but I think it was the same
19:18.23babijoeei was able to run API opengles demos
19:18.35phhyes, software rendering works :p
19:18.39herpezhi. im trying to make adb work in vmware, any clue?
19:18.40babijoeeohhh
19:18.41phhbut try a game, you'll see it's damn slow
19:18.47blast3rMrpippy: Making a call in wimo and switching to your build really does work
19:19.01ICEMANno1yep, tried it, too
19:19.10makkonenis adb working in eclair?
19:19.12babijoeethat sucks
19:19.17phhmakkonen: for me yes
19:19.19babijoeedid opengles ever really work?
19:19.19phhbabijoee: oh yes.
19:19.23babijoeein donut?
19:19.24phhbabijoee: worked fine on donut
19:19.27babijoeeoooh
19:19.37phhI tried to backport donut's lib, but they changed the API.
19:19.42blast3rany ideas on how to get the screen calibration to work on the touch diamond?
19:19.43babijoeethe api demos seemed the same to me =/
19:19.52phhblast3r: no way
19:19.53makkonenphh: thanks. it popped up with 'usb is connected', then I remembered after I went to bed that I'd taken adb=1 out of my command line.
19:20.05phhmakkonen: the .adb=1 is useless now
19:20.37makkonenis it? board-htcraphael.c still has adb=0 defined.
19:20.42phhmakkonen: it's not used :p
19:20.45makkonenok
19:20.49phhmakkonen: oh well you're maybe not using one of my latest build
19:20.55makkonenno, I am.
19:20.59phhok
19:21.06makkonenI pulled forward my changes to the latest.
19:21.27makkonenhad to bang around on smd.c some more. what an embarrassment. :)
19:21.34blast3rthank you all
19:22.18phhbabijoee: I can confirm demo apps work, but they don't move, so you can't see the awful performances :p
19:22.50MrPippyadb and ether at the same time doesn't work for me, if I do the "echo 6" only one or the other shows up
19:22.52phhrun labyrinth lite in 3D, which is quite light for the 3D engine, and bam.
19:23.05phhMrPippy: uh ? which os ?
19:23.39babijoeelol
19:23.47babijoeei was in driver development for winmo
19:24.15babijoeeluckily android has better performance
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19:24.50babijoeei believe you phh
19:25.28MrPippyubuntu in a VM, only ether works but lsusb shows the ether and ADB descriptors
19:26.04babijoeeoh
19:26.12phhand adb worked with the same configuration before ?
19:26.14babijoeehas the topic of android.media.process been talked about yet?
19:26.22babijoeeyeah with every other build
19:26.37babijoeejust this one because of android.media.process
19:26.47babijoeekeeps popping up like every 20 seconds
19:26.54babijoeeand whenever i plug in usb
19:26.59phhbabijoee: it's fine here :/
19:27.03babijoeeokay
19:27.11babijoeei delete data.img and trying now
19:27.18MrPippyphh: fixed it, after "echo 6" ether will take over if the usb0 interface is up, otherwise its adb
19:27.31babijoeenexus one boot animation so beautiful
19:27.39Battousaiyes
19:27.40phhyeah :)
19:27.46Battousaimesmerizing
19:28.23phhwould be even better with accelerated driver :D
19:28.27phh(or not ok.)
19:28.41babijoeeisnt it a gif animation?
19:28.45phhbabijoee: yes and ? :p
19:28.52phhit still uses the GLES driver
19:28.56babijoeeoooo
19:29.23babijoeenow i wonder how jaw dropping it would look then
19:29.45high-rezI'm assuming most of you are using android, as opposed to something like angstrom on your htc devices?  What version is most actively used? Still 1.5/1.6 or is 2.0 being worked on?
19:30.06phhI think everyone is working on 2.0 now :D
19:30.19ToAsTcfhphh: what up
19:30.25phhToAsTcfh: nothing for you as usual :p
19:30.33high-rezThat's pretty sweet.  With 2.0 do you get googles guided maps - or is that specific to the droid?
19:30.43ToAsTcfhi found a new kernel im testing it now
19:30.59phhhigh-rez: it's in 1.6 too now
19:31.05high-rezNo kiddin??
19:31.08phhbut without GPS it isn't really useful
19:31.12phhhigh-rez: just update google maps from the market
19:31.48high-rezHmm, my device is still 1.5 :(
19:31.52ToAsTcfhphh: why its gotta be like that
19:31.55high-rezAnd no udpates.  Lame
19:31.59babijoeeok adb still doesnt wanna work :(
19:32.03phhhigh-rez: 1.5 ?!?
19:32.15high-rezYeah.
19:32.18phhbabijoee: does usbether work ?
19:32.18high-rezWeakage
19:33.00babijoeehow do i use that?
19:33.18phhbabijoee: ifconfig usb0 192.168.20.2
19:33.24phhADBHOST=192.168.20.1 adb shell
19:34.33ICEMANno1didn't work for me
19:34.43phhICEMANno1: baaahhh
19:34.46phhit's worth the try.
19:36.11babijoeeit says error device not found ??
19:36.36babijoeereally weird
19:42.37babijoeephh: i guess i could just use my build for other tests
19:42.55babijoeephh: as i'm not experiencing any errors now
19:42.59babijoeeweird
19:43.18herpezit would be good to have a mix of builds
19:43.39phhmy build is just babijoee's one with sound /o\
19:46.59babijoeephh: are you working on getting opengles working?
19:47.18phhno i'm playing abduction :D
19:47.32high-rezIs it possible to load an android image from inside of android ? :)
19:47.51high-rezE.g. something similar to haret?
19:48.02phhgoogle fastboot
19:48.53high-rezHmm, i don't really want to flash the sucker
19:49.01phhfastboot doesn't flash
19:49.28high-rezHmm, ok i'm looking at the wrong thing then.
19:49.41phhmaybe not
19:49.47phhI think it can do both actually
19:50.00phhbut there is an option to load a zImage into memory and jump to it
19:50.15babijoeephh: ah k, so whats next on your list to get working?
19:50.18high-rezI should be ok using the devices original kernel/ril with an android 2.0 build right ?
19:50.26phhbabijoee: I have no precise order
19:50.30phhbut I think headset will be pretty easy
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19:50.37phhhigh-rez: I think so
19:50.59babijoeeah k
19:51.07phhit would be funny to use my build. it might even work :D
19:51.35high-rezYou mean to try your kernel on my device? :)
19:51.40phhno
19:51.42phhmy kernel won't work
19:51.48babijoeehow hard is getting bluetooth working? as i might try to get the files setup correctly
19:51.55high-rezI was thinking, for sure the panel is different.
19:52.08phhbabijoee: don't know, i've gave it a quick try and it sounds really weird
19:53.28phhno error, just doesn't work, android's gui don't recognize it
19:53.41phhanyway I'd like to switch to btips, for FM
19:53.42babijoeephh: also i'm assuming the whole android UI is slow due to no opengl working
19:54.00phhbabijoee: I don't think so
19:54.06phhandroid's gui doesn't use 3D
19:54.14babijoeereally?
19:54.18phhyes
19:54.21herpezguys, im with a doubt. Yesterda, phh released a build
19:54.22phhI don't know why it's so slow :/
19:54.34herpezthen, 2h later he released a fix to it
19:54.38phhherpez: yes
19:54.42herpezis there any other build after that?
19:54.44phhno
19:54.53phhunless babijoee did something ?
19:55.00herpezbecause a guy said "New Build by babijoee is released with COOL fixes. 29-12-2009"
19:55.13babijoeein donut, awhile back there was a zImage i had used and the interface was really smooth almost as if it was using hardware acceleration
19:55.34herpezdo u gays know if wifi.mac=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx is necessary or if it workis without it?
19:55.37babijoeebut could be placebo
19:55.44phhherpez: it just do nothing now
19:55.47ICEMANno1gays :D
19:55.55herpezSORRY!!!
19:55.57herpezlol
19:55.58high-rezman i wish i knew where i lost my htc touch pro at so i could play with this 2.0 stuff :(
19:56.05phhhaha
19:56.11herpezwell, people is ALWAYS doing the same mistakes...
19:56.16phhhigh-rez: being stuck with an android 1.5 device... such a shame :p
19:56.27high-rezphh: With a brand new 1.5 device even!
19:56.32herpezAlways WRONG startup, always PIN code...
19:56.32phh:))
19:56.33high-rezIts just friggin weak.
19:56.39babijoeelol 1.5
19:57.01babijoeethats where i fell in love with android
19:58.12CaptnoordI warn you guys..... if you continue with this... I will write a song about it.....
19:58.22phhjust do !:p
19:58.25high-rezOne thing i really like about android - decent free apps.
19:58.34phhhigh-rez: i'm missing 3D games now :D
19:58.43Captnoordphh i'm a bit sick :P so I won't record.....
19:58.50CaptnoordI sound like one of the muppets
19:58.54high-rezOn android, you can get an ssh client without having to dish out $8 - unlike the iphone.
19:59.16herpezin the next build, please add a startups folder with the right ones for each device, like connect.utb has
19:59.26phhhigh-rez: bah the iphone's sdk is costly.
19:59.34phhherpez: yes I've thaught of that
19:59.36herpezbecause if not, people will full our topics with things taht are 1000 times written, even in the faqs
19:59.44babijoeei'm deciding between xperia x10 or nexus
19:59.47babijoeewhat do u guys think
19:59.51phhbabijoee: nexus
19:59.56phhbut i don't know what x10 is :p
20:00.08herpezguys at black thread are using diam mtype and say that dont work!!! DUGH!
20:00.16babijoeesony ericsson first android phone
20:00.23babijoeeits almost got the same specs
20:00.50high-rezphh: Is it?  I've never even though to write for it.  I'm stuck using it cause my wife got it for me and would be mad if I didn't. :/
20:00.51phhbabijoee: I think you'd better get "google"'s phone, most people will have it, so you'll get the most developers
20:01.07phhhigh-rez: haha
20:01.56babijoeelol i'm a sony hardcore fan
20:02.18babijoeei was initially going to get the X1 but it wasnt released yet
20:02.52babijoeeso i was actually on thinking on getting the iphone
20:02.55babijoeethank god i didnt
20:03.04phh:)
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20:11.10babijoeei'm thinking on gathering useful apps to include in the next package
20:11.21phhsure
20:12.09babijoeei'm just thinking that the forums do not allow people to post programs and such because its labeled as warez
20:12.20phhreally ?
20:12.25babijoeeyes
20:12.57babijoeei was doing a search for an app and i saw a thread on xda asking for the same app. and he person was warned
20:13.00babijoeethe*
20:13.12phha free app ?
20:13.22babijoeei do believe so
20:13.31babijoeeor paid version
20:13.39babijoeei'm not sure :P
20:14.44phhthe thing we need the most is a good IME
20:15.21babijoeethe one used now is good imo
20:15.26babijoeeits just ugly due to scaling
20:15.46phhyes
20:15.53babijoeebut i'll have a look out for newer one
20:15.57phhthanks
20:16.40WM-Sefphh?
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20:16.54WM-SefI'm gonna buy your evil phone :P
20:16.57phhWM-Sef: nexus ?
20:17.04WM-Sefno
20:17.07WM-SefN900 (A)
20:17.15phhit's not my evil phone
20:17.33WM-Sef<phh> Don't buy N900!
20:17.42WM-Sef<phh> it's evil!
20:17.47phhah.
20:17.51WM-Sefyour own words ;)
20:18.23babijoeedont buy it XD
20:18.32WM-Sefwhy no?
20:18.39babijoeebuy nexus
20:19.09babijoeelol up to you what u want to buy
20:19.14babijoeei'm just kidding
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20:19.48Captnoordwow .... staff
20:20.01ali1234n900 is pretty good if you just want linux without the hassle of writing all the drivers yourself
20:20.02Captnoordand true I don't have a clue
20:22.37GlemSomLOL... When submitting a comment, this message (among others) are shown: "DO NOT submit android related bugs! (This website is for the kernel and kernel modules only!)"... And for some reason, I see this comment:"DIAM100 : Can't change ringtones.. only silent"... ringtones?!?! We are _NOT_ shipping ringtones in the kernel...ffs... :/
20:22.59Captnoordlolz
20:23.15CaptnoordGlemSom: its hard to teach those noobs
20:23.20babijoeerelax glemson :P
20:23.22Captnoordand when you think you got them
20:23.26Captnoorda new one comes
20:23.29Captnoordasking the same question
20:23.33Captnoordrepeating the process
20:23.35Captnoordrelax
20:23.37Captnoordignore them
20:23.45Captnoordits very hard I know...
20:23.45babijoeei post them to see how'd you react XD
20:23.52Captnoordlolz
20:24.04GlemSombabijoee, hehe.. very funny... :P
20:30.23GlemSomI'm under the impression some users are using a wrong startup.txt file... (wrong mtype and msmts_calib). Maybe we should delete the startup.txt from the root, and have a folder with correct configurationfiles for each device? (So the user will have to move the file in the right place... f.eks. move /conf/raphael/startup.txt to /startup.txt) ?
20:31.00babijoeeyeah
20:31.09babijoeei'll be doing that in some days
20:31.17babijoeealong with some very useful apps i'll collect
20:31.36CaptnoordGlemSom: when noobs using this stuff there is one thing I know for sure, they will fuckup.
20:31.54GlemSomheh :)
20:31.59Captnoordno really
20:32.07Captnoordusers who don't understand how to setup depedencies
20:32.20Captnoordusers who want stuff but are aparently to dumb todo so
20:32.34Captnoorduser who don't understand what a compiler is
20:32.47Captnoordusers who think they know but they will just fuckup
20:32.51Captnoordthose are the hardest
20:33.11Captnoordbecause you get the idea they understand what your telling them... but they just fuckup like all the others
20:34.19GlemSomCaptnoord, You're an IT supporter in your paying job? ;)   You might as well assume the users know nothing, and start from scratch :P
20:34.25babijoeeyeah thats why i pretty much removed the seperate files and just made an entire pack
20:34.26CaptnoordI don't consider myself smart or gifted.... just plain example of using your brain....
20:34.54CaptnoordGlemSom: nope... but did to many 'big' projects to know that users / leechers are crap
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20:35.02Captnoordand only 1% actualy know what they are doing
20:35.04dcordeshi
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20:35.21Captnoordyo
20:35.24dcordestrust me, I don't know what I'm doing.
20:35.27babijoeehelllo
20:35.40GlemSomheh nice timing...
20:35.58Captnoorddcordes: so am I... but I don't distract you guys here with it....
20:35.59Captnoordand
20:36.10CaptnoordI keep on going until somebody notices I don't have a clue what i'm doing
20:37.46dcordeshttp://tree.celinuxforum.org/CelfPubWiki/ELCEurope2009Presentations?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Mythbusters_Android.pdf a nice presentation about the differences between conventional gnu/linux distros and android
20:38.40dcordes"The presentation shows how Google has simply thrown 5-10 years of Linux userspace evolution into the trashcan and re-implemented it partially for no reason." ( http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/ )
20:40.14phhnot 10 years, but the whole userspace
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20:44.07dcordeshehe page 12
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20:45.38phhdcordes: I discovered that by myself ...
20:46.03phhand 640x480 is enough to get those out of memory
20:46.26phhjust run the market + an IME, and kill android.
20:46.51dcordesI was merely thinking about the tslib patch
20:47.23dcordeshi pH5
20:48.28pH5hi dcordes
20:49.05dcordesphh, we should put a link to all the new extra repositories at http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Kernel
20:54.59phhhum, which ones ? :p
21:01.38dcordestmzt, etc
21:01.45dcordes<PROTECTED>
21:05.36babijoeephh: you have a raph100 yea?
21:05.44phhbabijoee: diam100
21:05.49babijoeeoh
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21:06.23babijoeehow would i go by changing accelerometer/gsensor values
21:08.24phhbaah
21:08.42phhmake work my patch gsensor_axes patch :p
21:09.44babijoee:D
21:09.57babijoeeso are you're axis correct
21:10.12babijoeelol nvm
21:10.16babijoeei dont really need it
21:10.27babijoeei'm just trying to beat labrynth
21:10.28phhhttp://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/android-hardware/commit/f1f9969a27032bc0ff45439b459716fa646acbe0
21:10.29phhfix that.
21:10.58phhbabijoee: it's not because you don't actually care that you shouldn't fix it :p
21:11.09phhI had this bugreport many times
21:11.14babijoeeah k
21:11.45babijoeeoh ok
21:13.21phhif you find any error, I can rebuild and try it
21:13.31phhbut i've reread it two or three times and i've seen nothing
21:16.06dcordesphh, is markinus on irc?
21:16.19phhyes
21:16.22dcordes~seen markinus
21:16.24aptmarkinus <n=Miranda@gtng-4db041f0.pool.mediaWays.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 2d 1h 22m 14s ago, saying: 'I use the same config file ..'.
21:16.24phhsometimes
21:16.33dcordescool
21:24.36dcordes~seen Tpruvot
21:24.38apttpruvot <i=nobody@dedib.ath.cx> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 30d 32m 21s ago, saying: 'on msdn'.
21:26.55dcordesNetRipper, can you add the haret patches from tpruvot?
21:27.53dcordesNetRipper, http://tanguy.ath.cx/index.php?q=system/files/haret.s3c64xx.pre-0.5.3-20091123_085356.tar_.bz2 it's for the acer m900
21:31.21NetRipperumm ok will check
21:31.55dcordesdank je wel
21:33.34dcordesNetRipper, there are 7 diffs inside
21:33.37phhdoes someone know how the early startup works? I think I hit some limitation, if the kernel is too big, the initramfs is overwritten
21:34.19dcordesthere is some limit for zImage and initrd size sum hardcoded iirc
21:34.45phhI think that the limit is 3MB for uncompressed image, but i'm not totally  sure
21:35.22NetRipperdcordes, ok i wont apply patches without checking :)
21:35.43NetRipperphh, there's also a limit in the kernel itself for compressed and uncompressed images
21:36.46dcordesI think you can't pass 20M zImage+initrd
21:37.33dcordesNetRipper, that's even better to check it. the m900 patches were made before the qsd8* stuff was put
21:37.54phhdcordes: bah I have 3MB uncompressed image and 2MB initramfs
21:37.57dcordesNetRipper, m900 is samsung but you never know
21:38.17dcordesphh, no clue then. never had problems with too big kernel
21:38.22phhok
21:39.05dcordeswe put everything in the initrd when there was no SD or nand available for msm
21:39.38dcordesback in the day
21:41.40dcordesNetRipper, I also want a qsd8xxxx device. I feel left out :'(
21:42.14phhdcordes: don't you want to do a flashing version of linux for diam & friends ? :D
21:43.01NetRipperi thoought there were already m900 patches in haret
21:43.11NetRipperdcordes, buy one then :P
21:44.06dcordesNetRipper, for 150 they give me hd2
21:44.12NetRipperwtf
21:44.17NetRipperget 3 and sell with profit
21:44.31dcordes*cough leo
21:44.43NetRipperi paid 550 euros for my leo
21:45.10dcordesthey=vf.de for 2 more years of contract
21:46.26babijoeephh: ooo flashing
21:46.39phhbabijoee: flashing works, the kernel can just do nothing.
21:46.41phhwell it vibrates
21:47.02babijoeeah k
21:47.14phhI can get ramconsole even
21:47.23babijoeeyou'll probally have to rewrite alot of stuff and initiate it right?
21:47.28phh(http://husson.hd.free.fr/dm-flash )
21:47.57babijoeeis it safe?
21:48.04phhit's just the dmesg result
21:48.06phhnot the flash
21:48.11phhanyway with HSPL flashing is fine
21:48.20babijoeeah k
21:48.25babijoeei see its called dm
21:48.32babijoeeso its not compat with raph?
21:49.07phhbah it's easy to make it for raph
21:49.20Captnoordwasn't dm Death Match?
21:49.21Captnoord:P
21:49.24phhok.
21:49.29phhit's just for dmesg
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21:50.40babijoeeah k
21:51.34phhbut I miss a way to debug that ...
21:51.51phhcurrently i have to reinstall wimo at every try
21:51.53dcordesNetRipper, you like your leo a lot?
21:52.05NetRipperim missing hardware keyboard a bit
21:52.07NetRipperotherwise im loving it
21:52.22dcordesthat's the only thing..
21:52.27NetRipperthe big screen makes up for it, types reasonably.. but the big keyboard covers 75% of the screen
21:52.51dcordesI would totally get one if I wouldn't be addicted to hw keyboard
21:52.57phh(if anyone knows how to dump ramconsole from hspl)
21:53.12vawxphh, that abduction game looks rather smooth @ high settings ^^
21:53.24phhvawx: when it doesn't freeze :p
21:53.30vawxmeh, can't play it anyway
21:53.38vawxso i only see a bouncing cow
21:53.41phhhaha I forggot that :p
21:54.09dcordesNetRipper, yea I've seen screenshots with the kb
21:54.37babijoeephh: ask dzo?
21:54.51phhhe is never here when i'm :(
21:55.13dcordesNetRipper, bluetooth mini keyboard!!
21:55.30babijoeepm on xda XD
21:56.56vawxis there a 3d game that uses touchscreen?
21:57.09vawxand not gsensor
21:57.47phhvawx: 3D doesn't work anyway
21:57.51phhstill there is a game
21:57.54phhwait & second
21:58.05phhsnow rally
21:59.04dcordesNetRipper, attached with duct tape.. no really are there any qsd keyboarded devices on the horizon?
21:59.11NetRipperdcordes, yes! give me a brand/type if you know a good mini one
21:59.20NetRipperdcordes, only android ones afaik
22:03.17dcordesNetRipper, I'm looking out. the external keyboard thing makes wonder about usb host on msm
22:03.28dcordesa super good thing to have imho
22:03.29NetRipperyes there should be usb host
22:03.40NetRipperhardware supports it anyway
22:03.50dcordesyea
22:03.50phhand we have drivers for linux :p
22:04.15dcordescr2 somebody only needs to write a driver
22:04.19dcordessaid
22:04.56phhthere is already one afaik
22:05.16phhwe just have to code the part to switch from host to slave iirc
22:05.27phhbut i have no host-usb cable to try
22:05.35dcordeswhere would that be?
22:05.45dcordescodeaurora?
22:05.52dcordesa horrible word ^^
22:06.04phhdon't remember
22:06.39phhyes codeaurora has
22:06.46phh./host/ehci-msm.c
22:06.46phh./otg/msm72k_otg.c
22:06.49phhsounds weird though.
22:07.31makkonen1phh: what changed in the initrd between the donut release and the 12-28 eclair release?
22:07.43phhmakkonen1: absolutely nothing
22:07.44phhwhy ?
22:07.53phhafaik.
22:07.57makkonen1ok, I must have a corrupt copy somewhere.
22:08.13phhmakkonen1: you get a corrupt initramfs message when starting your kernel ?
22:08.24dcordesphh, what's weird about it?
22:08.31makkonen1no. but they're different sizes and one boots and one doesn't.
22:08.36phhdcordes: it seems to be two drivers
22:08.37makkonen1unless that was just a transient boot failure.
22:08.54phhmakkonen1: hum I didn't check, you can use the old one as well anyway
22:09.07makkonen1ok. good to know.
22:09.45dcordesphh, on the zaurus I used usbnet and ohci_hcd . the modules had to be replaced to use the other one
22:09.49makkonenand... device shows up in windows, but adb doesn't work. boo.
22:10.10phhmakkonen: bah use usbnet
22:10.12dcordesNetRipper, still got the raph?
22:10.56makkonenphh: probably the smart choice. but the one time I tried to hand over the connection to my VM... the VM crashed. so i gave up. :-/
22:11.08phhoO
22:11.13phhmakkonen: now it should be rndis
22:11.19phhso it should just work in windows
22:11.23vawxthat's what my vm's always do too... once i give them the phone they go bam
22:11.24makkonenoh. cool.
22:11.44makkonenshould I reenable advanced network functionality in winmo, then?
22:11.47vawxnot that i'm any nearer to getting adb running ^^
22:11.57phhmakkonen: no
22:12.04vawxoh... where is that feature?
22:13.04phhusb to pc setting
22:14.07makkonenok. how do I set up rndis, then? assuming it works? (we're not sure cdma has both of these functioning simultaneously, right?)
22:14.45phhit should just work by himself
22:14.59phhand there is no reason why usb on cdma doesn't work
22:15.10makkonenthere's no reason why a lot of things :-)
22:15.42dcordesgood night
22:15.50makkonenI'm just wondering since mrpippy said earlier today something about not being able to do simultaneous adb and ether
22:16.06makkonennot sure what he was using, though, so it's not a very useful data point
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22:21.47makkonenso I don't need any sort of driver for rndis?
22:22.01phhI don't think so but i'm not sure
22:22.09makkonenok
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22:22.24NetRipperdcordes, yes i still got the raph.. i was on the edge of selling it but the seller decided he didnt have money after all
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22:24.52emwehi
22:30.00makkonenseems to require a driver that it can't find. shows up as other devices -> smartphone, and complains about failed driver install. booo windows.
22:32.27phhjust stop using linux in a VM ...
22:32.27vawxdriver for that should be in sdk
22:32.41phhvawx: not for usbnet
22:32.43makkonenyeah, that's probably the real solution... ah. there is an rndis driver packaged with the other one for the vogue.
22:34.25makkonenhtc remote ndis based device...
22:34.30makkonenwhich fails to start.
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22:48.12phhI can confirm I can use both usbnet and adb at the same time ...
22:48.59phhWM-Sef: why pm ?
22:50.27phhok no reason.
22:55.36WM-Sefare you still there?
22:55.41phhyes.
22:55.44WM-Sefnice
22:55.59WM-Sefwhen is the next kernel beeing released
22:56.18WM-Sefcan't wait to see wifi/bt on my phone :)
22:56.22phh?!?
22:56.26phhyou should already get wifi
22:56.35phhif wifi doesn't work it's because you're noob. (most likely.)
22:56.37WM-Sefactually, I don't
22:56.40phhfor BT, it's another storry
22:56.53WM-SefI aint a noob?!?
22:57.29WM-SefA noob don't read the thread
22:57.32vawxjust name my errors :P might fix it ^^
22:57.54vawxmodules and init in wimo
22:57.58WM-Sefand I've read it, but I don't find anything about wifi with your kernek
22:58.01WM-Sef*kernel
22:59.11WM-Sefwhere can I find your latest kernel with wlan.ko, modules and zImage?
22:59.41phhhttp://glemsom.anapnea.net/android/htc-msm-android/#
22:59.49vawxwlan.ko is in modules
23:02.58phhWM-Sef: you're using my android build with it I hope ?
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23:03.08phhit isn't meant to work for "original topaz builds"é
23:03.40WM-Sefyes
23:03.47WM-SefIm gonna try again now
23:03.59WM-Seflittle question
23:04.03WM-Sefwhat means
23:04.11WM-Sefset FBDURINGBOOT 0
23:04.17phhdon't know :D
23:04.20jamenlangwhat's up husson?
23:04.30phhargh
23:04.36phhstop naming me with my last name
23:04.36jamenlangmatey
23:04.47phhit make me remind of my physic teacher
23:05.16jamenlangi could have been referring to anyone in the node really
23:05.56jamenlangso.... how's it going?
23:07.04WM-Sefdoes your lastest build
23:07.19phhWM-Sef: ?
23:07.24WM-Sefhave energy control for the rhod too?
23:07.30WM-Sefor power control
23:07.34phhit has none actually
23:07.38phhi'm working on it too
23:07.39WM-Sefok
23:07.51WM-Sefvicbush latest zImage
23:07.59WM-Sefturns of my screen to black
23:08.03WM-Sefbacklight on
23:08.10WM-Sefand I cant unlock it :/
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23:11.31MrPippyyeah false alarm, usbnet and adb work together fine
23:11.37phhok cool
23:11.42MrPippywhen usb works, which is pretty hit-or-miss
23:11.49makkonencool.
23:11.50phheven with the vbus=1 thing ?
23:14.32MrPippyhaven't tried that yet, i've had the fake_charger and a call to htc_cable_status_update commented out though
23:14.48WM-Sefphh, I can't start WiFi
23:14.56WM-Sefusing your latest zImage
23:15.01WM-Sefand eclair build
23:15.03phhWM-Sef: don't care.
23:15.04vawxdid you rename modules?
23:15.08phhyou need zImage+modules.
23:15.17WM-Sefyes
23:15.20phh-_-'
23:15.22vawxhihi
23:15.24WM-SefI have
23:15.39WM-Sefmodules-2.6.27
23:15.43WM-Sefor do I need
23:15.45phhDON'T RENAME IT
23:15.46WM-Sefmodules
23:15.55WM-SefOK!
23:16.05phhif they have a strange name, it isn't because of some funny bet.
23:16.11makkonenmrpippy: this is through linux in a virtual? and on donut?
23:16.27WM-SefI've tried it with the original name also
23:16.36WM-Sefbut that won't work too -_-
23:16.46MrPippyon donut, i've actually been using adb on mac
23:16.53phhMrPippy: makkonen you should really consider creating your own gito tree somewhere
23:16.59vawxalso turn wifi on in wimo
23:17.03phhWM-Sef: what about mobile data connection ?
23:17.22WM-Sefit works only on Donut, no?
23:17.28phhno.
23:17.34phhwell, it isn't supposed to :p
23:17.50phhbut vawx reported that it doesn't work for him
23:17.54phhwhich sounds weird to me
23:17.56MrPippybut if i put the phone through to ubuntu in vmware, ether works and adb sees the phone but complains about permissions
23:18.25phh(why people keep using vmware uh ?)
23:18.33phh(or any VM)
23:19.01makkonenphh: maybe I'll set up a clone of your repo when I feel up to learning how to deal with actual upstream commits and all that junk.
23:19.40makkonenmerging with the main branch usually is more work than just grabbing the newest head and reapplying my few changes.
23:20.08phhif you do it correctly, it shouldn't
23:20.31makkonenI was really hoping we'd get everything into the main branch... but smd.c just keeps getting farther from what works on cdma.
23:20.57phhthat's because of WM-Sef and vawx ! :p
23:21.15vawxyeah, yeah, blame me ^^
23:21.23phhand all topa and rhod users :p
23:21.27makkonenwho programmed the changes?
23:21.50makkonenthe new smd.c causes a kernel panic instead of hanging at mmcblk0: p1
23:21.50phh*not me*
23:21.53phhoh well just a bit
23:22.07phhmakkonen: huhu
23:22.11phhmakkonen: maybe I can debug that one ?
23:22.14phhif you can get ramconsole :D
23:22.20makkonen...yeah. :-)
23:22.27MrPippyyeah i'm working my way up to HEAD so that my patches won't be out of date
23:23.24makkonenMrPippy: I think you've got a better handle on the actual nuts and bolts, and a lot more changes. so you should probably be the one to clone the repo.
23:23.59ToAsTcfhwoot!!! im back like a vertebra :D
23:24.09makkonenbut I might give it a go this evening otherwise.
23:25.16makkonenbut for now I've gotta go.
23:25.20phhargh, who killed my adb
23:26.52herpez2hi. do u know if startup option pm.sleep_mode
23:26.52herpez2is working?
23:27.03phhwhich setting ?
23:27.22phheverything higher or equal to 1 should work
23:28.00herpez2im reading that we have the following options
23:28.06herpez20 - Power Collapse Suspend
23:28.06herpez21 - Power Collapse - Provides best power savings
23:28.06herpez22 - Apps Sleep
23:28.06herpez23 - Slow Clock and Wait for Interrupt (default)
23:28.06herpez24 - Wait for Interrupt
23:28.11phhherpez: yup
23:28.12phhbut 0 doesnt' work
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23:28.24herpez2so i wondering if i could use =1 in my device
23:28.38phhon eclair it will do nothing as the device can't go to sleep
23:28.39phhbut you can
23:33.53Shadowlinei like eclairs
23:34.10phhlol
23:34.15ShadowlineI also light dounuts but an eclair just makes you look cool
23:34.31phh-_-'
23:34.33Shadowlineloves Googles naming scheme
23:35.28Shadowlinephh do you know anything about theming or editing .apk files?
23:35.33phhnot at all.
23:35.37phhI hate developing for android.
23:35.38Shadowlinedamn :P
23:35.45Shadowlineyou hate it?
23:35.45phh(sounds funny uh ?)
23:36.00Shadowlinehow can you hate it if you are lurking here still :D
23:36.09phhi hate developing an app for android i mean
23:36.26phhI'd like to do some funny things, but java... blark
23:36.33Shadowlineahh
23:36.54Shadowlineyea I was just wondering what is involved in signing an apk file for building into a system image
23:37.22phhI'd say that no signing is needed at all
23:37.30phhandroid just trust everything in /system
23:37.36Shadowlinetrying to make a wvga capable (well theme wise) 1.6 system image...
23:38.29Shadowlineit is in the system/app folder is that still considered trusted?
23:38.51ShadowlineThen again I could always just try it and see what happens :P
23:40.12phhI want a 2.à one ! :p
23:40.18phhhum 2.0 theme is fine.
23:40.38jamenlangwhat did makkonen say was causing a kernel panic?
23:40.43Shadowlinewell it is based off 2.0.1
23:40.55Shadowlinemy reskin anyway since 2.0.1 works well in wvga :P
23:41.02phhjamenlang: he said he had no ramconsole :p
23:41.18phhShadowline: I want a (W)VGA IME !
23:41.30phhI want HTC IME fullscreen :p
23:41.33Shadowlineyea that would be nice
23:41.34phhfull widht*
23:43.59jamenlanginit=/ console=tty0, would that have changed?
23:44.19phhI can't see what this does ...
23:44.29phhinit=/ has no sense and console=tty0 is the default setting
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23:47.30jamenlangoh i see now that init=/ is apart from console
23:47.33jamenlangmakes sense
23:48.31phhinit= is the init program called when there is no initramfs
23:48.39phhwe can't boot without initramfs, and / is no program.
23:50.28jamenlangso if initramfs exists then init=/ would then be ignored correct?
23:50.35phhyes
23:51.07phhWM-Sef: stop naughty private stuff please.
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23:51.41ToAsTcfh?!?!?!
23:51.49phhToAsTcfh: jealous uh ? :p
23:52.00ToAsTcfhno curious
23:52.22ToAsTcfhdid u get my sensors fixed up?
23:52.33phhI won't.
23:52.42WM-Sefhere it is :p
23:53.09ToAsTcfhoh now that a winmo device wont gain from it im out in the cold
23:53.24ToAsTcfhno mor ren and stimpy
23:56.58WM-SefI still can't start WiFi
23:58.21ICEMANno1same here
23:58.25ICEMANno1i can start it
23:58.31ICEMANno1and input the key
23:58.35ICEMANno1but cant connect
23:58.41ICEMANno1or it doesnt connect
23:59.00WM-Sefme it says
23:59.08WM-Sefcan't start WiFi
23:59.09ICEMANno1me?
23:59.13ICEMANno1k
23:59.19vawxno mac or static ip filters?
23:59.29ICEMANno1?
23:59.50vawxrouter settings

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