IRC log for #htc-linux on 20091223

00:00.53aavannice the motorola milestone is coming to europe
00:01.00MatBeestill copying over activesync
00:01.06MatBeemy microsd readeris busted
00:01.25aavanlol
00:02.00MatBeemaybe my gigs of free space will give me more usability than yours :P
00:02.11zychoMatBee: what device do u use
00:02.17MatBeetreo pro
00:02.25zychooh
00:02.44zychoi cant use it on my diamond because of the touchscreen :<
00:02.51zychodont know how to fix it
00:03.02MatBeeim one of the half-breed htc/palm kids
00:03.19MatBeeand im an orphan
00:03.30MatBeehalf-breed orphan....
00:03.57MatBeepalm (mom) abandoned me. and HTC just used palm for nookie.
00:06.13MatBeezycho, whatya mean because of the touch screen?
00:06.28MatBeeisnt the diamond 320x320 like mine?
00:06.36zychocant calibrate
00:06.37phhMatBee: no it's 640x480 :p
00:06.40MatBeeahh
00:07.08MatBeezzz
00:07.14MatBee16 minutes for ubuntu to be copied
00:07.27tmztwm-sef: hey, sorry offline
00:07.43zychoive used my diamond as usbdrive to copy image
00:08.26MatBeeprobably would hav ebeen faster to wifi it
00:08.36zycho:>
00:08.41MatBeeOH JOY
00:08.46MatBeeIT STOPPED COPYING
00:09.03MatBeecannot copy ubuntu
00:09.05phhit crashed
00:09.05MatBeedie die die
00:09.07phh:))))))
00:09.21aavanokay, now I'm scared, I'm going to go to sleep, before MatBee just kills everyone here
00:09.30aavan:)
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00:10.11ToAsTcfhphh: it looks like i cant do the famework hack. smali cant handle it yet
00:10.30phhToAsTcfh: I can confirm the API hasn't change since donut btw
00:10.41phhI successfully used my driver as-is on android 2.0.1
00:10.49zychoMatBee: try WM5torage
00:11.19ToAsTcfhthats strange. cuz another guy im workin with got everything but bt working in donut
00:11.32phhhu ? bt is really easy
00:11.44ToAsTcfhso what may be the issue
00:11.57ToAsTcfhhes working on bt
00:12.27phhdon't know
00:12.27ToAsTcfhbut whats prolly wrong with my sensors?
00:12.32ToAsTcfhoh
00:13.02phhyeah there are some things I don't know :p
00:13.30ToAsTcfhis there a way it take my sensors.heroc and maybe compare it to urs?
00:13.41phhuh ?
00:14.04ToAsTcfhwel that saeems to be my issue
00:14.37ToAsTcfhit sees it in logcat but it wont show in apps
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00:15.46ToAsTcfhi dont understand it. it works in 1.5 and 1.6. but not 2.0
00:15.50tmztphh: lev: get anywhere with those patches for 2.6.32?
00:15.54tmztphh I mean
00:16.14phhhaven't done anything on it but downloading it and applying your patches yet :D
00:16.32ToAsTcfhcould it just be the fact im on a .27 kernel?
00:16.47phhToAsTcfh: no
00:17.06tmztwhat does kernel have to do with it?
00:17.18phhnothing.
00:17.20ToAsTcfhidk
00:17.25tmztyou're welcome to try building a 2.6.32 for heroc if you want
00:17.32phh:)))
00:17.34ToAsTcfhim just lost as to what to do now
00:17.50phhwithout even 2.6.27 source code it would be hard :p
00:17.56tmztdoes xxd show data from the sensors?
00:17.58ToAsTcfhwith no board
00:18.06tmztsmi64 not that hard
00:18.11ToAsTcfhxxd?
00:18.19tmztor od, cat, etc.
00:18.33ToAsTcfhidk
00:18.44tmztany vogue people tonight?
00:19.04aavangn guys
00:19.35ToAsTcfhso im ah screwed.
00:20.03phhtmzt: their device won't respond to read() only to ioctl()
00:20.18phh(yes that's stupid)
00:20.35phhanyway, time to go to bed
00:20.41ToAsTcfhthe way that quiet was able fix it in aosp. was to revert sensors manager back to 1.5
00:21.05ToAsTcfhi cant do that because smali has issues
00:21.13WigglerAwayanyone know if the msm usually controls power to i2c chips?
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00:21.37ToAsTcfhso im left trying to figure out what to try next
00:22.09WigglerAwayI'm not seeing all the clients I expect to see
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00:26.48WigglerAwayI assume thats what the VREG stuff is for? controlling power to other chips?
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00:40.46tmztWigglerAway: yes
00:41.08tmztwhat chips?
00:41.12tmztwhat chip?
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00:46.49WigglerAwaylooking for the acclerometer
00:48.15WigglerAwaywhich I believe for topaz is a bosch bma150, the same as hero
00:52.11tmztokay, cool
00:52.27WigglerAwayhow are vreg idx/values dumped in wince?
00:52.31tmztyou working with jds on topaz/rhod?
00:52.43tmztnot sure how that was done
00:53.13herpezsorry the off-channel subject, but since we are talking about accelerometer, is possible to replace that part of the phone? because mine is broken and not working (diamond)
00:54.16WigglerAwaytmzt: never seen the board, yep
00:54.43tmztprobably not, such a small part
00:54.45WigglerAwaywoops, the board bit was for herpez
00:55.08MatBeephh, whats the next step for Android again? Or is it out of my hands still
00:55.22herpezthanks! i think i can live with it broken ;)
00:55.51WigglerAwayherpez: accelerometers are usually very small packages, you'll need to be an expert solderer to replace it
00:55.53tmztMatBee: I thought it was booting?
00:56.13MatBeeandroid? It isn't displaying anything but the scrolling text from the beginning
00:56.29herpezthanks Wiggler
00:57.04tmztstopping where?
00:57.29MatBeeit gets to----- cut here -----, does a few nonsense lines and does it all again
00:57.45MatBeejust loops endelessly
00:57.57tmztwhat kind of thing?
00:58.01tmztthat's usually ok
00:58.08tmztadd quiet to cmdline and try it
00:58.26tmztwhy isn't android stuff starting though?
00:58.37MatBeeno idea
00:58.38tmztcan you ssh and logcat?
00:58.55tmztthe resolution?
00:59.03tmztit needs to be 320x319
00:59.16MatBeeumm
00:59.47MatBeeill try as soon as this sd card repair finishes
01:03.43MatBeewhich isnt moving
01:03.45MatBeegod damnit
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01:04.03MatBeesd card is readable in the phone but not on my pc
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01:05.21MatBeetmzt, how do i set the resolution?
01:07.15MatBeemddi.width i guess
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01:13.16tmztyeah, if your kernel supports that
01:13.24tmztthat might be a non-A thing
01:13.37MatBeeim just grabbing whatever google pulls up
01:13.49tmztit only works if we added support
01:13.57MatBeei added "quiet" to the cmdline, but its still awfully verbose ;)
01:14.04tmztsince we aren't scaling it probably won't
01:14.05tmzthmm
01:27.27MatBeeso theres no way i can log whats happening? Does the boot process start ssh or something?
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01:28.24MatBeeusing haret console it stops responding, as it should, once it starts booting
01:33.06MatBeeit does rpcrouter_create_server stuff after -cut here-
01:34.46MatBeenow its doing bluetooth stuf
01:35.50MatBeenow its stuck at pc_clock_disable: FIXME!
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01:43.45WigglerAwayyou can create an initrd that contains ssh but it sounds like it's not getting that far
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04:21.50tmztignore that
04:22.14tmztssh should work
04:22.16tmztor telnet
04:39.06MatBeehmm
04:39.45tmztedit init.rc enable telnetd (swetland)
04:39.58MatBeei dont think my computer is detecting it as any communicable device though
04:41.53tmztthen function is missing
04:41.58tmztor phy doesn't work
04:49.46MatBeeshould i be booted in linux when trying this on my device?
04:49.54MatBeeor will it detect on windows just fine
04:51.18tmztin linux
04:51.39tmztuntil we switch to rndis or you use driver from wiki.wing-linux.sf.net
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08:22.24lilsnoopanyone alive?
08:23.39tmztsure
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10:46.10kam187does anyone know anything about MMGSDI?
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11:16.52tmztkqm: what is it?
11:17.07tmztkam187:
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11:24.11kam187its a task running on the baseband
11:24.40tmztno
11:25.10tmztwhy?
11:25.27kam187well i'm working with a usb dongle, so its a bit confusing what runs where :P
11:26.10tmztI think it has to do with power levels
11:26.17tmztcm is call manager
11:26.27kam187hmm i dont think so, because it has alot of references to sim stuff
11:26.28tmztmm is media management but that's a guess
11:26.45tmztthis is gsm?
11:26.49kam187i think it talks to the uim (usim) task over RPC
11:26.49kam187yeah
11:27.09tmztok
11:27.13tmztnot sure then
11:27.31tmztunless it's supersim related
11:27.36kam187supersim?
11:27.37tmztbut probably not
11:27.43tmztsd card in sim
11:28.23kam187basically i want to emulate a sim over the USB interface.. which means modifying uim or mmgsdi to relay data over that interface instead of the sim one
11:28.27tmztrpc in the amss mk?
11:28.35tmztoh
11:28.43tmztthen just add a mux for the rpc
11:29.03kam187i cant open a shell into this dongle tho, there's no 'linux' etc
11:29.10tmzteverything or just key stuff?
11:29.15kam187just key stuff
11:29.24tmztso replace it
11:29.30tmztand you can, over dm
11:29.43tmztread the original bqs/qmat threads
11:30.06kam187hmm
11:30.28tmztot a shell but debugger
11:30.35kam187really?
11:30.41tmztalso can manipulate processes
11:30.41kam187cool
11:30.43tmztseems so
11:30.47tmztthey found a lot
11:31.09kam187i spoke to viper over msn, maybe i can ask him some more
11:31.25kam187where are these threads? xda-dev?
11:32.25tmztmobile files or modoca or some german thing
11:32.59kam187ok
11:33.05tmzthandy mobile I forget
11:33.24kam187ahh
11:33.26tmztbqs is benq siemons
11:33.34kam187yeah its what they started with isnt it
11:33.40tmztyes
11:33.50tmztthe thread is informative
11:34.21kam187ok i'll try to find it
11:37.55kam187argh cant find it.. there's alot of threads about qmat
11:38.39tmztforget how to find it
11:40.15kam187hmm do these things run 'BREW"?  so maybe its a brew debugger?
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11:43.11tmztbrew is the c++ api that's run over it
11:43.44kam187ahh
11:43.44tmztsearch - benq siemens amss
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11:46.37kam187alot to read :)
11:47.25tmztread it all
11:57.01kam187yup i am :)
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13:39.03MatBeeelo
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14:11.36rupert88could someone direct me to an appropiate channel for mobile developers?
14:11.58rupert88im trying to make an app to find cinemas etc in your local vicinity
14:12.20rupert88but akm having trouble trying to understand how i pull the data off various websites
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15:32.03MxxConrupert88 you'll need to read manual of sdk you are working with.
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17:34.21ToAsTcfhphh: u there?
17:37.06ToAsTcfhi ran a string against sensors.hero.so and sensors.heroc.so found some differances and a lot of alikeness. was wondering if its possible to take them apart, edit and reasimble them without source.
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18:06.24ToAsTcfhMatBee_: do u know anything about decompiling .so editing and re assimbling them? can it be done?
18:06.54ToAsTcfhor does it take the hand of god
18:06.56MatBee_is it already open source?
18:07.02ToAsTcfhno
18:07.19ToAsTcfhwell the sensors.hero is
18:07.28ToAsTcfhbut not herc
18:07.40MatBee_umm if you CAN decompile it, but it probably won't make a lick of sense to any human
18:08.03ToAsTcfhahhh... i need god.lol
18:08.03MatBee_no labels, no comments, no structure, it'll be garbage C-assembly code
18:08.45ToAsTcfhso its of no use to run strings against an .so
18:09.03ToAsTcfhu could never use what uve found
18:09.05MatBee_your best bet is to contact the person who made it
18:09.05ToAsTcfh?
18:09.11ToAsTcfhhtc
18:09.15MatBee_oh lol
18:09.28ToAsTcfhyeah thet suck
18:09.31MatBee_you could get a disassembler, and it'll be in assembly
18:09.53ToAsTcfhthen reassembling it?
18:10.08MatBee_what would be the point in that
18:10.11MatBee_lol
18:10.29ToAsTcfhbut to make reasonable changes its no good
18:10.36MatBee_not unless you know assembly
18:10.50ToAsTcfhyeah im screwed
18:10.57ToAsTcfhlol
18:11.16ToAsTcfhback to the framework hacking
18:12.33ToAsTcfhi gotta build a script to change every instance of const-string to const-string/blah
18:12.47ToAsTcfhin over 4,000 files
18:12.56MatBee_source?
18:13.08ToAsTcfhi got as far as changing it in one
18:13.17MatBee_that's not so bad :P
18:13.29MatBee_visual studio is godly at refactoring ;P
18:13.30ToAsTcfhno the framework.jar baksmali ed
18:13.34MatBee_ah
18:13.54ToAsTcfhits over 4000 smali files with multible instances
18:14.18ToAsTcfhi no hardly anything about bash
18:14.21ToAsTcfhlol
18:14.21makkonenthis looks like a job for... sed!
18:14.32MatBee_the sloth?
18:14.33ToAsTcfhso one file is a mirical
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18:15.33ToAsTcfhi seen a few forums talking bout sed but i got no clue as to how to use it
18:16.16MatBee_isnt sed just a regex editor?
18:16.20ToAsTcfhmy bash skill are very suckish
18:16.28ToAsTcfhidk
18:16.32MatBee_not so much bash, but regex
18:16.50MatBee_im balls at regex, though i didn well on the final exam
18:17.01ToAsTcfhlol
18:17.09ToAsTcfhi know nothing bout it
18:17.11makkonenit's a stream editor, I believe. input -> regex changes, etc -> output.
18:17.32MatBee_ToAsTcfh: you can do it
18:17.48makkonenI'm sure there's a pretty simple script using find and sed that could change all the appearances of x to y in a directory tree.
18:17.49MatBee_regex isnt THAT hard, just dedicate yourself to the syntax
18:17.53ToAsTcfhill look into it
18:17.55makkonenI'm also sure I don't know what that simple script is.
18:18.12ToAsTcfhlol
18:18.58MatBee_echo Sunday | sed 's/day/night/' <old >new
18:19.01MatBee_This would output the word "Sunnight" bacause sed found the string "day" in the input.
18:19.08MatBee_thats the hello world of sed ;D
18:20.00ToAsTcfhsed 's|applicationx|applicationy|g' $i > $i.tmp && mv $i.tmp $i
18:20.00ToAsTcfh?
18:20.01ToAsTcfhfound it on a forum
18:20.04ToAsTcfhlol
18:20.05MatBee_ah
18:20.21MatBee_yeah it may be a little tricky, but im sure you can figure itout
18:20.28MatBee_test it on a couple useless text files
18:20.30makkonenthose pipes should be slashes, I think.
18:20.49MatBee_s/pipes/slashes
18:20.53MatBee_:P
18:21.19phhMatBee_: made what work ?
18:21.25phh( <MatBee_> finally made it to work )
18:21.29MatBee_eh?
18:21.37MatBee_oh
18:21.40MatBee_TO work
18:21.53MatBee_my ass is now at work
18:22.33ToAsTcfhyeah i guess i found the limit to smali. it messes things up when u switch and edit files
18:22.46ToAsTcfhcant smali it back
18:23.24ToAsTcfhbut changing that string is suppose to fix
18:23.56ToAsTcfhphh: i sent u an email
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18:25.50WM-Sefhello :)
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18:26.52phhMatBee_: baah
18:27.01phhMatBee_: ubuntu started btw ?
18:27.07WM-Sefme?
18:27.22WM-SefI've a problem
18:28.04phhWM-Sef: ?
18:29.06WM-SefI want to boot Mer on the Rhodium
18:29.14WM-Sef(HTC/WinMo)
18:29.17phhthat's a *big* problem
18:29.30WM-SefWinMo a big problem?
18:29.36WM-SefI totally agree :D
18:29.52phhno, wanting to boot mer :p
18:30.03WM-Sefyes :p
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18:30.25WM-SefCaptnoord, spreek jij nederlands? :P
18:30.38WM-Sefok
18:30.44WM-Sefnow on to my problem
18:31.08WM-SefI think the kernel is causing that it won't boot
18:33.38MatBee_phh, i cant get it copied over lol
18:33.46phhoh yeah forgot that
18:33.47MatBee_im gonna try here at work again
18:34.05phhWM-Sef: what's the problem ?
18:34.25MatBee_if i put my microsd card in the laptop, it reads it initially, but wont read the filetable, so i may have to format it and make it readable again
18:34.29MatBee_---but it works for my phone
18:35.21WM-Sefif I put mer on a Ext3 partition, it don't boot from the FAT partition with HaRET, it don't boot
18:35.37MatBee_hmm
18:35.41WM-Sefcan't mount unknown block device at (0,0)
18:35.49phhWM-Sef: ah you're not using one of my images
18:35.56phhyeah i didn't release any mer -_-'
18:35.57WM-Sefgreat idea
18:36.21WM-Sefwhere I cant find them lol :P
18:36.24phhwell it could still works without me doing naughty stuff
18:36.36WM-Sefwhat? :P
18:36.40phhWM-Sef: remove the initrd.gz thing from the startup.txt
18:36.43MatBee_you? not doing something naughty?
18:36.51phhadd root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootwait
18:37.00phhp2 or whatever else is your partition number
18:37.06WM-Seftried it allready
18:37.07phhI think it should be enough
18:37.13WM-Sefbut it stucks on
18:37.21phhand you did remove initrd.gz ?
18:37.28WM-Sefcan't mount block device
18:37.37WM-Sefehhh :$
18:37.47phh:-)
18:37.50WM-SefI have no initrd inside
18:38.01WM-SefROFL xD
18:38.25WM-SefHow can I make a initrd? :p
18:38.38phhyou don't need an initrd
18:38.47WM-Sefok...
18:38.52WM-Sefmore nice ;p
18:39.16WM-SefBut now I need to experimenting with partitions
18:39.23WM-Sefit's a lot of work
18:39.32WM-Sefon a other HTC device, the Kaiser
18:39.41WM-Sefthey've ported it in 1 day
18:39.42phhWM-Sef: if you don't want to play with partitions i've a trick for you.
18:39.48phhWM-Sef: I did it too :p
18:39.52phhwell
18:39.54phhthanks to tmzt.
18:40.02WM-SefSquashFS
18:40.09MatBee_lol
18:40.36WM-SefBut what's the trick? :p
18:40.59phhWM-Sef: not totally sure anymore, but use android's initrd.gz
18:41.04phhput Mer into a rootfs.img
18:41.09phhand well... that's it.
18:41.25WM-Sefok
18:41.30WM-Sefhow I do that?
18:41.30phhoh well, a link from sbin/init to init in the rootfs.img
18:41.57phhdd if=/dev/zero of=rootfs.img bs=1024 count=500k (change the 500 to any thing else, this command will create a 500MB file)
18:42.01phhmkfs.ext2 rootfs.img
18:42.08phhmount -oloop rootfs.img /mnt
18:42.10phhcd /mnt
18:42.15WM-SefI've playing around with the SquashFS of the kaiser
18:42.28WM-Sefand then it stucks with android...
18:42.32phhtar xf ~/where/is/mer.tar.gz
18:42.36phhcd -
18:42.37phhumount /mnt
18:42.42phhadb push rootfs.img /sdcard
18:42.49WM-SefDUDE!
18:42.56phhoops I forgot the link
18:43.03WM-SefYour´e freakin´ amazing ±D
18:43.03phhafter the tar, add ln -s /sbin/init init
18:43.39MatBee_I've got some people bitching on my forum thread about wanting gsm support phh ;P
18:43.57phhMatBee_: GSM support for what ?
18:44.03MatBee_my device
18:44.05WM-SefI´m gonna reboot in to linux now
18:44.09WM-Sefsee you in a while
18:44.13MatBee_in the zimage
18:44.28phhMatBee_: well, it should already work
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18:44.35MatBee_hmm
18:44.40phhMatBee_: but android starts ?
18:44.49MatBee_no i havent gotten android to start
18:44.54phhso GSM support for what ?
18:44.55MatBee_nothing gui-like anyway
18:45.16MatBee_ah they were complaining as if it wouldn't work
18:46.08MatBee_omg im an idiot... I could have used one of 1000000 of my 2gb microsd cards for ubuntu
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18:46.34MatBee_heck and i could use it for android as well
18:46.39phhlol
18:47.05MatBee_i was thinking 2gb would be too small
18:47.14MatBee_then i realized how little space these devices actually have
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18:47.58WM-SefBack again
18:48.02WM-SefUbuntu this time
18:48.27WM-Sefphh, your'e still there?
18:48.34phhyes
18:49.35MatBee_lol activesync keeps restarting the copy
18:49.40MatBee_bad idea to copy over 800mb
18:49.50phhMatBee_: set your phone as usb mass storage ...
18:50.21WM-SefI need to do
18:50.24WM-Sefmkfs.ext2 rootfs.img
18:50.34WM-Sefin a command prompt? (bash)?]
18:50.36phh<phh> dd if=/dev/zero of=rootfs.img bs=1024 count=500k (change the 500 to any thing else, this command will create a 500MB file)
18:50.36phh<phh> mkfs.ext2 rootfs.img
18:50.36phh<phh> mount -oloop rootfs.img /mnt
18:50.36phh<phh> cd /mnt
18:50.36phh<WM-Sef> I've playing around with the SquashFS of the kaiser
18:50.37phh<WM-Sef> and then it stucks with android...
18:50.39phh<phh> tar xf ~/where/is/mer.tar.gz
18:50.41phh<phh> cd -
18:50.43phh<phh> umount /mnt
18:50.45phh<phh> adb push rootfs.img /sdcard
18:50.50phhyeah
18:50.50MatBee_phh, wm5torage says my card isnt in the right format and freezes my phone
18:50.54phhas root
18:50.58phhMatBee_: cool.
18:51.01MatBee_lol
18:51.25MatBee_so in other words, i cant set it as mass storage
18:51.57WM-Sefmke2fs 1.41.9 (22-Aug-2009)
18:51.57WM-SefCould not stat rootfs.img --- No such file or directory
18:52.17WM-Sef*Zucht*
18:52.32phhwhat about the dd ? :p
18:53.27WM-SefThanks mate ;)
18:54.54MatBee_i remember having to do all this hard work back in like 98 when i first learned of linux
18:55.02MatBee_i swore i'd never do it again
18:55.54WM-Sefrootfs.img is not a block special device.Proceed anyway? (y,n)
18:55.59WM-Sefy or n?
18:56.07phhy
18:58.27WM-SefI created a 800 MB file
18:58.44WM-Sefshould be enough I think :p
19:00.12WM-SefWhen I have it on my storage card, what then :p
19:04.59WM-Sefadb: command not found
19:05.24WM-Sefcan I use the mv command?
19:06.24MatBee_android debug bridge
19:06.51MatBee_joo have to install the sdk and tool crap i think
19:08.40WM-Sefphh? you there?
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19:17.37phhWM-Sef: whatever to copy the file to your SD
19:17.56WM-Sefok ;)
19:18.01WM-Sefnow I have a problem
19:18.10WM-Sefbut I must fix this myself
19:18.39WM-Sefwhat cmdlines
19:18.44WM-SefI need?
19:19.27phhsame as android should be fine
19:19.41phhalso same initrd.gz
19:19.46WM-Sefok :p
19:20.11WM-Sefbut I need to delete Filesystem.sqhs?
19:20.26phhno
19:20.40phhyou can if you want, but it's not needed
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19:22.08tmztWM-Sef: what are you working on?
19:23.00WM-SefMer
19:23.17WM-SefI'm placing rootfs.img with mer in it now on my SD
19:24.02WM-Seftmzt, do you own msn?
19:24.41tmztwhat?
19:24.49MatBee_msn messenger
19:24.53MatBee_lol
19:24.53tmztrootfs.img is?
19:24.56tmztoh
19:25.02tmzthave one
19:25.05tmztyes hold on
19:25.31WM-SefI'm gonna try my own build now
19:25.32MatBee_WM-Sef, you should document your struggles
19:25.40MatBee_i'm sure it'll help out others
19:25.48tmztnot getting why you need a loop image
19:25.51tmztfor mer
19:26.06tmztit doesn't have a split between initrd or system like android
19:26.07WM-SefI add you on msn
19:26.12tmztI just run from a partition
19:26.17WM-Sefwhen I'm on windows again
19:26.27tmztpidgin :)
19:27.04tmzthow are you building the initrd to mount the loop image?
19:27.12tmztthe android one won't work
19:27.15WM-SefIT BOOTS!
19:27.21tmzthow?
19:27.27MatBee_lol
19:28.22WM-Seflocalhost.localdomain logon
19:28.36tmztwhat does the initrd look like?
19:28.45WM-SefI don't know
19:28.53WM-SefI'll send it to you
19:29.00WM-SefIt has a ubuntu font
19:29.19phhtmzt: the loopback is just easier to setup
19:30.44tmzthmm I see
19:31.04tmztwait for the wave
19:31.09tmztit has file storage
19:34.13tmztanyway, I'm happy to help where I can but I really need to work on 2.6.32
19:34.26tmztso we can have something to commit to mer's repos
19:34.45YellowGTO|NixI love you
19:35.17phhhum, android 2.0 or linux 2.6.32
19:35.19phhwhat to work on
19:35.25MatBee_treo pro
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19:36.02phhwithout no ramconsole, no usb, it's hard to do.
19:36.15phhyou're sure usb doesn't work ? :p
19:36.24MatBee_ill try again at home
19:36.39MatBee_i dont have the proper windows drivers
19:36.55MatBee_and i have no idea what to do in linux either
19:37.13phhdownload android toolkit
19:37.18phhdo sudo ./adb shell
19:37.20MatBee_does the android toolkit have to be installed in linux?
19:37.21phhand... that's it.
19:37.23MatBee_ah
19:37.35phhextracted only
19:37.39MatBee_oh
19:37.44WM-Sef/usr/bin/xinit Nk
19:37.47phhno real installation
19:37.53WM-Sef*No such process
19:39.13MatBee_so i have to get some christmas presents
19:39.16MatBee_....
19:39.24phhI already have them :p
19:39.30phhI just have to pack them :(
19:39.36MatBee_i only have my sisters
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19:39.55WM-Sefwho can help me with my present? mer on my phone? O-)
19:40.03phhlol
19:40.15MatBee_if you guys want to chip in and get me an HD2
19:40.19MatBee_you can
19:40.35phhone for me first
19:40.40phhI can help porting linux on it :p
19:40.58MatBee_ugh
19:41.02MatBee_little kids at work
19:42.19WM-SefFatal server error Addscreen/ScreenInit failed for driver o
19:42.24WM-Sef*0
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19:44.45MatBee_i wonder
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19:44.56MatBee_will the adb tools work on a virtual machine?
19:45.16MatBee_probably not since it has to be recognized by windows first right?
19:45.32phhit should works
19:45.47MatBee_hmm
19:46.07MatBee_cant hurt to try i guess
19:48.14kri5hello guys
19:48.21kri5what are the news?
19:48.51WM-SefMer is a little booting on the Rhodium
19:48.56WM-Sefx errors out :P
19:49.44MatBee_2 days left of work, useless for me to start any new projects, eh?
19:49.54MatBee_thennnn back to school
19:50.18kri5any progress on blackstone port?
19:50.26phhnop
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19:50.38phhthere is an eclair build for all boards
19:50.52WM-Sefyou can try making a rootfs
19:50.54phh(meaning rhod, raph, diam, blac, topa, maybe other)
19:51.07WM-Sefbut phh knows more
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19:52.34tmztwhat's wrong with ramconsole?
19:52.51WM-Sefme?
19:52.52phhtmzt: no known memory area working for non SMI64 devices :/
19:53.16tmztWM-Sef: X does with the cmdline trick?
19:53.32tmztand mtty method?
19:53.39phhdon't know this one
19:53.45tmztdid you look into it?
19:53.46phhWM-Sef: add msm_fb.fix_x=1 to your cmdline
19:53.56phhtmzt: no, I just don't know how to do such things
19:54.03tmztand refresh thread
19:54.21phhrefresh thread is in the msm_fb.fix_x=1 option :p
19:54.24tmztask cmonex I don't think it's documented anywhere
19:54.30tmztok, good
19:54.50phhboth the virtual_yres= yres and refresh thread are in this option
19:55.02WM-Seftrying now :D
19:56.10WM-Sefit works! :D
19:56.15WM-Sefworking mer!
19:56.40WM-Sefgenerating ssh dsa key
19:57.17tmztWM-Sef: you install pidgin?
19:57.39phhtmzt: Mer installs a ssh key at first start
19:57.39WM-Sefyes
19:57.43tmztit will do that every time until the script runs correctly
19:57.46WM-SefI'm online
19:57.47WM-Sefdude
19:57.56WM-SefI need to specify my name
19:58.04WM-Sefbut there is no working keyboard
19:58.07tmztyour in the list now but not online I think
19:58.15tmztthe keyboard doesn't work?
19:58.18WM-Sefno
19:58.26tmztyou have topaz kernel or rhod?
19:58.30phhWM-Sef: wait a bit.
19:58.32tmztwe should fix that
19:58.36phhit takes ages to start
19:58.51tmztwhat does?
19:58.58phhvirtual keyboard
19:59.21tmztin mer? must be new
19:59.57WM-Sefno virtual keyboard
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20:02.02WM-SefCan I pre define my Username
20:02.11WM-Sefand the required data?
20:02.25WM-Sefthen I don't need a keyboard
20:02.31phhWM-Sef: you can add the kernel-land virtual keyboard
20:02.48WM-Sefhow?
20:02.55WM-Sefonly the touchscreen works :p
20:03.05phhcheck your cmdline, you have blablavkeyb=off
20:03.08phhset it to on or hide
20:03.41WM-Sefthere's no option there
20:03.45WM-Sefwith keyb
20:03.51phhhu really ?
20:03.53phhwait
20:04.19tmztkernel vkey is bad
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20:04.39phhWM-Sef: msmvkeyb_toggle=on
20:04.41tmztanyway X will require no calib in kernel
20:04.59tmztuseradd should work for you
20:05.15WM-Sefwhat I need to do? :p
20:05.21tmztI don't know what the script does I just disable it and try to get on with work
20:05.23phhssh on your device
20:05.24WM-Sefediting my default.txt now
20:05.39phhbut i don't remember the default ip
20:06.22tmztphh: are you working with this too? what did you guys do this morning?
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20:06.53MatBee_so
20:06.55phhtmzt: I did almost nothing since yesterday
20:07.03MatBee_my virtual machine froze solid
20:07.04phhjust working data connection and phone calls in eclair
20:07.06MatBee_lol
20:07.18tmztcool
20:07.22tmztnew ril?
20:07.25phhno
20:07.27phhsame as before.
20:07.35phhthat's why i said "almost nothing" :p
20:07.41tmztyou think connecting it to ofono with a proxy would work?
20:08.09phhyou mean ofono using this RIL or the other side ?
20:08.21tmztforget legacy ril
20:08.25WM-Sefgonna trie the keyboard
20:08.33tmztproxy the binary wire protocol from android to dbus
20:08.34phhtmzt: it's no more legacy now
20:08.41phhOUCH
20:08.41tmztthere's only a few commands
20:08.46tmztwhat is it?
20:08.54phhfew commands ?
20:09.03phhI think i don't get what you mean
20:09.04tmztthe tokens, you see them?
20:09.35tmztthe way rild talks to rilj
20:09.49tmztthere's like dial, hangup, get a list of networks, etc.
20:09.59phhyes
20:09.59tmztall of those could map to dbus
20:10.04phhhum
20:10.23tmztthe we work together on ofono since I will need it for merphone anyway
20:10.51tmztwhat are you using instead of legacy?
20:10.53phhi've no idea how dbus works
20:11.03phhnot sure :p
20:11.08tmztdbus from c is not too difficult
20:11.09phhit's a fork of mbdronak's tree
20:11.16tmztbut easier with wrappers
20:11.19WM-Sefscreen calibration is bad
20:11.21tmztthat's legacy
20:11.30tmztyes, the resolution is wrong
20:11.36tmztjust disable the scripts
20:11.42tmztand create a user over ssh
20:11.48tmztwe will get it working
20:11.58tmztwhy doesn't microp keyboard work by the way?
20:12.09WM-Sefyes it works very wall
20:12.15phhtmzt: just to be sure, ofono is not one of these python prog that openmoko dev created ?
20:12.16tmztwhat does?
20:12.21tmztno
20:12.23WM-Sefbut the calibration is to bad
20:12.27WM-Sefworking
20:12.29tmztit's c from holtmann
20:12.32WM-Sefmeamo installtion
20:12.35WM-Sef*mer
20:12.37phhcool
20:12.49WM-Sefwooohooo
20:12.51WM-Sefmenu
20:12.54WM-Sefevrything works
20:12.59tmztcan't do vala and hate hate cross compilation
20:13.23MatBee_im gonna have to get mer, ubuntu, and android all their own seperate sd card arent i?
20:13.37MatBee_would it be easier for me to just format them all as ext3?
20:13.44tmzthmm?
20:13.57MatBee_i have a ton of 2gb micro cards
20:13.57tmztI thought so but wm seems to have loop working
20:14.02tmztah
20:14.05tmztthen maybe
20:14.28tmztI'm going to be working on this stuff in qemu
20:14.43tmztif you can give me the instructions for initrd that would be useful
20:14.47phhtmzt: maybe there is some other version values not supported in the code for your microp
20:14.55phhtmzt: it's just android's initrd :p
20:15.01tmztso we add them then it should work
20:15.01WM-SefIf I reboot
20:15.08tmztuh, so init is running?
20:15.09WM-Sefasks it for a username again?
20:15.10phhwhich loopback mounts /sdcard/rootfs.img
20:15.13tmztthat will break udev
20:15.19phhand then starts /sbin/init
20:15.23phhtmzt: uh ?
20:15.24tmztWM-Sef: yes, it's broken
20:15.25WM-Sefbut I'm doing it
20:15.28phhwhy would that break udev ?
20:15.38WM-Sefwhat is broken?
20:15.38tmztbecause android init is a udev
20:15.44phhno
20:15.46phhit's android's initrd
20:15.47phhnot init
20:15.49tmztWM-Sef: the startup0 scripts
20:15.58phhoh wait.
20:16.00tmztso busybox init or just sh?
20:16.08phhneither
20:16.13phhbut it do starts udev actually
20:16.16phhI forgot that
20:16.53tmztto use mer for now you have to remove some things from /etc/X11/xinit.d
20:16.57WM-SefI've got a working mer
20:17.03WM-SefI need now
20:17.08tmztas well as NetworkManager from /etc/init.d
20:17.15WM-Sefto disable kernel keyboard
20:17.15phhtmzt: why remove networkmanager ?
20:17.23WM-Sefbecause its over the menu
20:17.26tmztso that debian networking works
20:17.32phhhum ok
20:17.35tmztand kill vkey
20:17.41tmztmy kernel won't have it
20:17.43phhbut I got usb & wifi working with networkmanager
20:17.49tmztI'm switching to plain drm msmfb
20:17.59tmztwait, wifi?
20:18.12tmzton diam then?
20:18.19phhyes
20:18.25phhwifi it's just a matter of loading modules :p
20:18.33phhdrm msmfb ?
20:18.40phhso you'll also do xf86-video-msm ? :D
20:18.43tmztif nm supports staitic it's fine
20:18.52tmztbut it didn't in jaunty last time I tried
20:18.55tmztjaunty mer
20:19.01tmztyes :)
20:19.06tmztthat's the plan
20:19.24tmztmdp code from qsd should work, ati won't
20:19.28tmztbut Xv is fine
20:19.50tmztand no pmem in the way if I can help it
20:20.06MatBee_should i only work 4hrs today?
20:20.07tmztwhen I get somewhere hopefully Weiss can help me
20:20.09MatBee_lol
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20:22.13WM-Sefdisabled the kernel keyboard, now it aint booting anymore :p
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20:22.56MatBee_lol
20:24.57WM-Sefit will only boot with they kernel keyboard
20:25.12phhthat is weird.
20:26.55WM-SefIt could be my new calibration settingds
20:27.19WM-Sefcan you hide the kernel keyboard?
20:27.26WM-Sefor is it allways
20:27.28phhclick on the green box
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20:27.41phhat upper left of the keyboard
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20:31.17WM-SefIt won't boot anymore
20:31.18WM-Sefhow odd
20:31.44WM-SefIt starts up, and when it's started it returns to the console
20:34.15WM-SefI need to have better screen calibration
20:38.09phhtmzt: hum, the patch you sent me against lev's tree doesn't even build, is that normal ?
20:38.57WM-Sefare you working on a prt for the rhodium?
20:38.59phhit's no big deal to fix still
20:39.06phhWM-Sef: no, port of 2.6.32 to diam
20:39.17phhtmzt: oh never mind, it's my bad.
20:39.19WM-Sefdiam 2?
20:39.39WM-Sefwhen its ready? :p
20:39.52phhno diam.
20:40.19WM-Sefold device :p
20:40.33WM-Sefcan it work on the diam 2 to>?
20:40.34phhwhat's the point of new devices if they have no new feature ?
20:41.51WM-SefBecause I want Mer availeble for Rhodium too ;)
20:42.04phhWM-Sef: what are you doing right now ? :p
20:42.41WM-Seftrying to fix the broken installation
20:42.43WM-Sefthe touchscreen is dead
20:47.45WM-Sefwhen do you think the port is ready?
20:49.14Captnoordhmmm easy one... its ready when its ready
20:49.15Captnoord:P
20:49.41phhanother one
20:49.46phh"it depends on what you call ready"
20:50.01phhstill another
20:50.06WM-Sefok
20:50.10phh"It's already ready to be done"
20:50.26WM-Sefcan you build a rhodium version too?
20:50.28Captnoordand when phh think its ready you might have a different opinion about it
20:50.28Captnoord:P
20:50.34phh:)
20:50.46WM-Sefbut
20:51.00WM-Sefcan you develop it for the rhodium too?
20:51.21phhWM-Sef: which board do you run ?
20:51.29WM-Sefhow in Know?
20:51.47WM-Sef*How I Know?
20:51.51phhwhich phone ?
20:51.57WM-SefTouch Pro 2
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20:52.37phhisn't that rhod ?
20:52.40WM-Sefyes
20:52.44phhso what ?
20:52.49phhyou're already developing it for rhod no?
20:52.57phhor you don't mean the same "it"
20:53.27WM-Sefyes
20:53.41WM-Sefthis is a weak build
20:53.47WM-Sefand a 800MB file
20:53.54Captnoordweak build....
20:54.08WM-Sefbrakke build ;)
20:54.11MatBee_ha
20:54.22Captnoordlol dude dat heet niet zo
20:54.26Captnoordlolz
20:54.28WM-Sefhoe dan? :P
20:54.35MatBee_hoe gaarden
20:54.39WM-Sefinstabiel? ;P
20:54.52Captnoordbijvoorbeeld
20:54.53WM-Sef@ Captnoord, jij bent ook developer?
20:55.02Captnoordnu ff nie
20:55.05Captnoordnow i'm not
20:55.10CaptnoordI don't have the time
20:55.12MatBee_lol
20:55.13Captnoordenglish please
20:55.14phhpcchh
20:55.21WM-Sefok :p
20:55.21phhthat's an english channel.
20:55.22CaptnoordI know I started it
20:55.23MatBee_yes, please dont leave me and phh out ;)
20:55.31Captnoordi'm a dev
20:55.38Captnoorda dev who wishes he had more time
20:55.46MatBee_i want 40hrs in a day
20:55.46phhI don't want more time
20:55.48Captnoordfinishing school
20:55.49phhMatBee_: here :p
20:55.55WM-Sefbut I want a rhodium build, I have one, but it stopped working :P
20:55.56phhsame*
20:56.05CaptnoordWM-Sef: dude
20:56.13Captnoordthen get the history
20:56.13MatBee_ahaha
20:56.18Captnoordand check every ref
20:56.21Captnoordand when it works
20:56.23Captnoordboots
20:56.29Captnoordthen report which rev works
20:56.38Captnoordthen we know which one broke it
20:56.39WM-SefIt boots into X, then the screen is dead
20:56.55MatBee_sadly development is a slow tedius task ;D
20:57.12MatBee_which is why i need 40hrs a day
20:57.30Captnoordnah I need more time to sleep
20:57.45MatBee_nah, you just need to get drunk while coding
20:57.51Captnoordnope
20:57.52Captnoorddid that once
20:57.54MatBee_lol
20:58.02Captnoordstill regret it
20:59.08WM-SefI must go off
20:59.10WM-Sefttyl
20:59.13Captnoordk
20:59.31WM-Sefmaybe I'm coming on 2night :P
21:08.36phharch/arm/mach-msm/htc_fb_console.c:86:2: error: #error nottopa
21:08.40phhtmzt: that's discrimination ! :p
21:15.16MatBee_damnit
21:15.23MatBee_my paypal payments are declining
21:15.27MatBee_ha
21:15.31MatBee_$4!!!
21:16.00phh?
21:16.27MatBee_for my web hosting
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21:22.32MatBee_hieu
21:22.34MatBee_hiehu
21:22.37MatBee_jhieu
21:22.39MatBee_jhieu
21:22.40MatBee_hieu
21:22.42MatBee_hieu
21:22.44MatBee_hiueu
21:22.46MatBee_hieu
21:22.50MatBee_fuck
21:22.52MatBee_wrong window
21:23.35phhok.
21:23.52MatBee_this is why empathy is bad
21:28.45Battousairaph/diam eclair is coming together impressively quickly
21:29.04MatBee_and panth?
21:29.10MatBee_;P
21:31.00phhBattousai: sound/wifi/bt will be tough :/
21:31.44Battousaisound as in ext speaker right?
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21:32.08MatBee_Hmm, how do I find out if my device has the same chips as some of the other devices, it'll make my job easier with soem preliminary research
21:32.13MatBee_i have that manual for my device
21:32.19Battousaicrack it open ;)
21:32.26yoyeyhi all
21:32.36MatBee_i already have the manual for the refurbers
21:32.53phhtmzt: this tree seems really weird ...
21:33.00MatBee_but is there a nice list/table of per-device chips? so I could see if i can mix and match most of my components
21:33.02phhmac80211 seems broken, usb function too
21:33.14phhMatBee_: read kernel source !:p
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21:33.28MatBee_buh
21:33.32MatBee_i love organization ;)
21:33.41Battousaikernel source is very well organized
21:33.47Battousaigot directories and everything
21:33.54phh:-)
21:33.55MatBee_bah
21:34.15MatBee_Or, www.url.com/devicecomponents.htm
21:35.10phhtmzt: woot, htc_fb_console works ! :)
21:35.21phh*ouch*
21:35.23phhkernel panic in cpufreq
21:35.26MatBee_lol
21:36.13tmztporting?
21:36.16tmztphh: on?
21:36.27tmzt2.6.32 on diam?
21:36.29phhyes
21:37.04tmztphh: sorry, needed to check the ifdefs
21:37.05tmztha
21:37.22MatBee_#IFDEF Treo850e
21:37.27tmztwm: I can help wit ts but only remotely
21:37.28MatBee_win;
21:37.58MatBee_im getting tired ofmy laptop going to sleep on me and exiting irc
21:37.59tmzthmm, where?
21:38.09tmztuse irssi/screen
21:38.16Battousaiquassel :)
21:38.17MatBee_win7
21:38.26MatBee_i only use linux when i have to
21:38.43Battousaiif you have a server somewhere, quassel has a linux core and a windows client
21:38.45MatBee_aka i play counterstrike :P
21:38.50tmztthen why on treo pro?
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21:39.34tmztphh: awesome, how is stability? we must be getting crashes for rcu stuff
21:39.35MatBee_well in the spirit of the tinker-demon
21:39.43tmztbut we have to fix it
21:39.53phhtmzt: kernel panic before even starting userland in cpufreq
21:39.55tmztfor future kernels anyway
21:39.58phhI'll bypass that.
21:40.11tmztcheck for changes to device or sysfs name
21:40.38MatBee_I'd prefer linux on my phone, A) because of limited resources. B) from the tons of open source options.
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21:42.16MatBee_and i have a tinker-demo
21:42.19MatBee_n
21:42.45phhmsmfb doesn't work :/
21:42.56phhtime to check if ramconsole works I guess.
21:46.33phh[    0.000000] Linux version 2.6.27-00626-g3d95499 (phh@phh-desktop) (gcc version 4.2.3 (Sourcery G++ Lite 2008q1-126)) #21 PREEMPT Wed Dec 23 12:01:42 CET 2009
21:46.35phhsame player tries again.
21:49.31MatBee_home time
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21:52.12phhtmzt: where does this tree come from ? codeaurora ?
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21:53.54tmztyeah but from leviathan
21:54.01WM-Seftmzt
21:54.02tmzthe got it from there I think
21:54.04tmzthey
21:54.07WM-Sefanswer on msn
21:54.09tmztI see your msg
21:54.12tmztok
21:54.38WM-SefI can do my cam on
21:54.48WM-Sefso you can see the progress I made
21:55.01tmztnot sure if it works
21:55.06phhDBGC[|^@^@[|^@^@[    0.000000] Linux version 2.6.32-g347ce16-dirty (phh@phh-desktop) (gcc version 4.2.3 (Sourcery G++ Lite 2008q1-126)) #5 PREEMPT Wed Dec 23 22:50:06 CET 2009
21:55.08phh\o/
21:55.42tmzthmm
21:55.43tmztok
21:55.46phh(means: ramconsole works)
21:55.50tmztyes
21:56.02tmztwhat address?
21:56.02phhnext step is msm_fb
21:56.10tmztdid you change it or is that in the board?
21:56.18tmztgood
21:56.22tmztit should all be nop'd
21:56.30phh0x00800000 0x00100000
21:56.31tmztI can't see why it doesn't work
21:56.35phhso it works only for diamonds gsm :/
21:57.01tmztI just know you have to set_device_name now
21:57.11phhuh?
21:57.12tmztyou can't change it directly
21:57.24tmztlook at the codeaurora history to see some examples
21:57.43phhok
21:57.43tmztlook at the codeaurora history to see some examplementation for core stuff
21:57.55WM-Sefare you talking about Mer on the diam now?
21:57.59tmztso if you modify the read only version it oopses
21:58.02tmztyes
21:58.07tmztbut kernel in general
21:58.16WM-Sefok :p
21:58.21tmztby the way phh, please don't break g1 compilation
21:58.24tmztor sapp
21:58.30tmztexcept in Makefile
21:58.38phhouch
21:58.40WM-Sefis this only for the diam? or will it work on other devices to?
21:58.40phhwill be hard
21:58.42tmztI hope to get multidevice support
21:58.47phhWM-Sef: once step at at ime :p
21:58.48WM-Seflook :)
21:58.54tmzthmm?
21:59.01phhs/once/one/
21:59.14WM-Sefhopefully the topaz and rodium gets its step too P
21:59.16WM-Sef:p
21:59.17phhanyway, next step is to get usb net function.
21:59.24phhWM-Sef: they already have ...
21:59.30tmztmer is userspace should be the same on all
21:59.38tmztplease use rndis though
21:59.41tmztif you can
21:59.50phhok
21:59.51tmztbut ether was broken in eth.c for some reason
21:59.56phhyes i've seen
22:00.02tmztI want to support windows users
22:00.11phhi know
22:00.27phhcould help me debugging my phone with a true keyboard anywhere :p
22:01.40tmztso could x2x
22:01.44tmztI've used it before
22:01.47phhlol
22:01.51tmztwhen no kbd on motoq
22:02.06tmztwait, mouse
22:02.07phhI thaught about telnet, easier for windows computers.
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22:02.10tmztkeyboard worked
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22:11.44phhtmzt: cool... ether.c is already at its latest revision.
22:12.07tmztyes
22:12.16tmztlev had all this working on g1
22:12.21tmztit's his tree
22:12.53phhhe said he hadn't function
22:12.58phhI didn't get why, here is why.
22:13.31tmztfunction works?
22:13.41phhnot ether
22:13.51phhsource is broken
22:13.54tmztI have no usb, I switched to zero and still nothing
22:13.58phhand there is no rndis in it
22:14.06tmztok
22:14.07phhoh, usb is detected for me as function
22:14.13phhbut I have no function activated.
22:14.13tmztso it's not hero based?
22:14.18phhnot at all
22:14.19tmzthmm
22:14.23tmztlsusb sees it?
22:14.26phhyou want me to backport hero's usb "stack" ?
22:14.26phhyes
22:14.36tmztmaybe but might be hard
22:14.43phhanyway it's already broken
22:14.48phhso a bit less a bit more won't change anything.
22:14.56tmztI think we should combine the bitfield stuff with gadget composite
22:15.03tmztsimplifiy the pdata
22:15.07tmztand merge that
22:15.20tmztbut function is okay if you get it working
22:15.27tmztand please break out such a patch for me
22:15.51WM-SefX is again broken
22:15.52phhsure
22:15.55phhWM-Sef: wd
22:16.14WM-Sefwith the fix you provided
22:16.16WM-Sefhow odd
22:20.28WM-Sefhow far is the project?
22:20.28WM-Sef30% ?
22:20.52tmztI can list the components
22:21.02WM-Sefok
22:21.12tmztwhich project, merphone?
22:21.16WM-Sefyes ;)
22:21.18tmztit's in planning :)
22:21.25tmztbut other things are done
22:21.38WM-Sefhow many %?
22:21.42WM-Sefif you guess?
22:22.38tmztkernel? 70%+
22:22.44WM-Sefcool :)
22:22.47WM-Seffor 1 device?
22:22.50WM-Sefor multiple>
22:22.54tmztmer itself, ask sts
22:23.06tmztmer for htc , just some scripts
22:23.10WM-Sefkernel = zImage>
22:23.11WM-Sef?
22:23.11tmztmultiple
22:23.13tmztyes
22:23.27WM-SefRhodium too, included in the zImage?
22:23.44WM-Sefkeymappings are done?
22:23.47tmztrhod/topa are very similar to raph/diam
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22:23.56WM-Sefok :)
22:23.59tmztthey should be but microp is not detecting it
22:24.15WM-Sefcan you send the latest zImage?
22:24.23tmztcr2 layed out the differences
22:24.30tmztuse 2.0.1
22:24.34tmztkernel 3
22:24.36tmztfor now
22:24.40WM-Sefkernel 3?
22:24.44tmztI'm working on 2.6.32 stuff
22:24.49WM-Sefin the Topaz Android thread?
22:24.50tmztfrom rhod android thread
22:24.54tmztor that
22:25.20WM-Sefare the keymappings from the rhodium done?
22:25.38tmztI'm doing 2.6.32 stuff to move to pavel's/linus's upstream
22:25.56WM-Sefok :)
22:26.02tmztthen I won't have any android, 3d, or anything else
22:26.09tmztalsa will come when it comes
22:26.33tmztthen I can work on 2d video drivers
22:26.40tmztmake them as fast as possible
22:27.02WM-Sef3d video drivers too?
22:27.21WM-Sefif you made that, will it work on the Rhodium too?
22:28.00tmztI can't make that
22:28.09WM-Sefwhy no? :p
22:28.11tmztI can only try to make the android ones work with drm
22:28.19tmztand I don't want to do that
22:28.31tmztI only need 2d or 2.5d
22:28.49WM-Sefok :)
22:28.52tmztit's a process
22:28.55tmztX or android
22:29.01WM-SefX
22:29.17tmztdzo has stuff to work with and can make 3d work with components
22:29.24tmztthat I don't want to use
22:29.40WM-SefSo the ported Quake3 won't run on my phone like on Maemo 5?
22:29.45tmztI have a driver from qualcomm to do the best I can with 2d and offscreen pixmaps
22:30.04tmztwith hardware drivers? not initially
22:30.05phhtmzt: they'll maybe do a free 3D driver as well who knows ...
22:30.18WM-Sefok :p
22:30.19phhI think i've seen such stuff for hardware video decoding to be planed
22:30.21tmztyour rhod is not very fast for that
22:30.24phhs/to be//
22:30.34phhtmzt: well, it's quake3.
22:31.04WM-Sef;)
22:31.18tmztI think we can do everything manila or sense does with 2d accel
22:31.36tmztanyway, the rhod gpu only renders into the framebuffer
22:31.41phhsure we can
22:32.04tmztso mdp could actually be faster according to raster
22:32.13WM-Sefare you developing for the Topaz too?
22:32.20tmztthere's some cool stuff coming for gtk and there's always Qt as well
22:32.27tmzttopaz == rhodium
22:32.45WM-Sefdo you write for them too?
22:32.55tmzthuh?
22:33.19tmztmer stuff should work on raph,diam,rhod,topa,etc.
22:33.32tmztkernel will be per device until moving upstream
22:33.36WM-Sefbut my question whas: is the keymap for the Rhod created?
22:33.55tmztnot without kernel driver
22:34.01tmztare you on windows now?
22:34.15WM-Sefyes
22:34.19WM-Sefwhy?
22:34.41tmztyou need to be able to build a kernel
22:34.48tmztso we can add microp support
22:34.52tmztget colinux
22:34.56WM-Sefbuilding the source code?
22:34.59tmztyes
22:35.13WM-Sefwhere can I find the source code?
22:35.20tmztgitoriuos.org
22:35.25phhgitorious*
22:35.27tmztsearch for qualcomm msm
22:36.58WM-Seflinux-msm ?
22:37.04WM-Sefthat repository?
22:38.23WM-SefIS the code newer then the latest topaz kernel build>
22:38.24WM-Sef?
22:38.25tmztyeah
22:38.27tmztyes
22:38.31tmztalways :)
22:38.41WM-Sefbut my question
22:38.42tmztand you can use rhod patch fromr hod thread
22:38.53WM-Sefif I compile it
22:38.55tmztI don't  know if keyboard works
22:38.58WM-Sefok
22:39.04WM-Sefgonna try it now
22:39.05WM-Sefbrb
22:39.07tmztcheck the commit log
22:39.16WM-Sefcommit log?
22:39.18tmztget colinux.org
22:39.22tmzton gito
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22:42.53WM-Sefquestion
22:43.02WM-Sefwill the code work with Android, too?
22:44.06tmztwhat code?
22:44.09tmztthe kernel?
22:44.11tmztyes
22:45.02phhtmzt: do you think I can try to use dzo's bootloader as is and see what boots ?
22:45.12phh(with diam kernels i mean)
22:45.38phhI don't know much about flashing
22:46.04tmztit might work
22:46.06WM-Sefhow many objects you have there>
22:46.12tmztit's extremely simple
22:46.24phhtmzt: and safe ?
22:46.33tmztit can be recovered from spl
22:46.38phhand doable from linux ? :D
22:46.41tmztbut you lose wm while working with it
22:46.45phhyes sure
22:46.51tmztyes, he patched htc-flasher
22:46.57tmzthold on
22:47.09tmztthe cmlines he embeds include mtd layout
22:47.20tmztyou need to change those for your device
22:47.33phhwell, I'll first put only kernel
22:47.34tmztby dumping nbh and getting the offsets
22:47.40phhmtd partitioning will be for later.
22:47.45tmztok
22:47.48WM-Sefhow many gigabytes is it?
22:47.57tmztthen make sure to change the asciiz parts
22:47.59phhWM-Sef: it = ?
22:48.02tmztcolinux?
22:48.14tmztthe downloader is small, the image about 100mb
22:48.18phhtmzt: I'll just need to be able to dump ramconsole without reinstalling WM then
22:49.03phh(if i have to reinstall WM at every try, it will be *long*)
22:49.53tmztyeah
22:49.56tmztuse mtty
22:50.13tmztlet's get the thing from cmonex or maybe we can figure it out
22:50.15tmzthmm
22:50.28tmztpatch htc-flasher to read that with ruu commands :)
22:51.30phhI think i'll wait for cmonex :p
22:51.59tmztshould be eaasy
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22:52.29phhi've read that mtty can brick phone, so i'll wait.
22:52.52tmztonly people who can't use it
22:53.02tmzthspl protects writes to radio/spl
22:53.08tmzt(blame the tool)
22:57.51phhmakkonen: if you're around, there is a demand for an updated cdma kernel
22:57.56phh(android eclair needs it)
22:58.47phh(meaning there was a big bug in the kernel, that android eclair triggered at every boot.)
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23:06.24WM-SefHello :)
23:06.35WM-Sefback again :)
23:09.59marcydarcyHi There
23:11.24WM-Sefcan you
23:11.40WM-Sefdeliver me a pre compiled kernel with Topaz patches>
23:11.55WM-SefI tried to build it myself
23:12.09WM-Sefbut the GIT repository is too big :|
23:12.24ToAsTcfhphh: did u look at what i sent
23:12.30phhToAsTcfh: yes  and it's totally useless
23:12.38ToAsTcfhdern...
23:13.05WM-Sefcan you pre compile a zImage for me?
23:13.14ToAsTcfhidk... i guess the framework back porting is my only option
23:13.50phhToAsTcfh: the best way is to debug the sensors driver ...
23:14.23marcydarcyWM - just check Post Nr 805 its latest
23:14.27ToAsTcfhha i havent even manaaged to build the thing
23:14.33MrPippyphh: whats the big fix needed for eclair?
23:15.03phhMrPippy: http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/commit/3d9549969ec992f349999146b2bbd81861590d4f
23:15.21phhnot big at all
23:15.34MrPippyyeah
23:15.35ToAsTcfhi wanna get rhe sensors thing working
23:15.48ToAsTcfhits gonna be way easier
23:15.56phhToAsTcfh: it's already working for me :D
23:16.01WM-Sefwitch post?
23:16.01ToAsTcfhlol
23:16.36ToAsTcfhwhat do i need to do to build it then
23:17.04marcydarcyHere you are WM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5198557&postcount=805
23:17.32ToAsTcfhi tried puttin it in my build and m sensors.heroc but its always got some error
23:17.44ToAsTcfhabout the hero-open
23:20.16WM-Sefis it from your repositories?
23:21.30marcydarcyI'm not coding. Thats the latest from markinus
23:22.41WM-Sefbut does he use code
23:22.48WM-Seffrom this repo?
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23:23.01WM-Sefotherwise
23:23.12WM-Sefyou are working double
23:27.38marcydarcyactually  dont know but would makes sense someone makes a fork for this project to avoid the double work
23:28.27WM-Sefright ;)
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23:32.21WM-Sefwho has Fiber @ home?
23:33.35MatBeefiber optic?
23:33.37MatBeelol
23:34.07tmztfork what?
23:34.11phhWM-Sef: in my dreams ! :p
23:34.24MatBeei have 15mbit internet
23:34.27MatBeeis that close enough?
23:34.34phhMatBee: how much upload ?
23:34.48MatBee100kbytes/sec avg
23:34.57phhnot close at all.
23:35.03MatBeehaha
23:35.09MatBeeyeah its not exactly fast
23:35.30MatBeei wonder actually how fast i can upload
23:36.05phhI don't
23:36.09phhit's always too slow
23:36.46MatBeehttp://www.dslreports.com/speedtests/14866244;973933;680e73693b1b4560604f9d6da31c1c0c;3.0;speedtest.cogeco.net/83959731
23:36.57MatBeeerr
23:37.08MatBeehttp://www.dslreports.com/im/83959731/13005.png
23:37.27MatBeewhatever that means...
23:37.48MatBee973 kbits/sec upload
23:37.50MatBeeso not fast at all
23:38.06ali1234that's a good quality ADSL2+ connection
23:38.41WM-SefI have ADSL2+
23:38.49WM-Sefand 430KB/s down
23:38.53ali1234ouch
23:38.57WM-Sef60KB/s up
23:39.04ali1234wait bytes
23:39.15tmztwho is forking what?
23:39.20ali1234that's reasonable to poor
23:39.32WM-Sef3 KM away from the station
23:39.51MatBeeyeah i get excellent speeds
23:40.04MatBeefrom high quality sites, i get 1-2mb/s
23:40.30MatBeeand the crtc finally told the isps to stop throttling torrents in canada
23:40.47MatBeeonly 'as a last resort'
23:42.21WM-SefI'm getting fiber within 2 yeara
23:42.25WM-Sef*years
23:42.46BabelOhttp://www.speedtest.net/ excellent test, close to reality
23:46.24WM-SefI must go
23:46.26WM-Sefttyl
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23:52.57MatBeephh, i have to replace the zimage for ubuntu?
23:53.11phhMatBee: no
23:53.17MatBeei just get a blue line on the left
23:53.20MatBeeand froze ;D
23:53.53phhX over htc_fb_generic isn't expected to work
23:54.28MatBeeyeah it just freezes
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23:59.37MatBeetime to linux up that android image
23:59.41MatBeebrb

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