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| 00:47.13 | tmzt | leviathan: please don't call it gnu, the license or the userland has no affect there |
| 00:47.22 | tmzt | it's just notation we are using |
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| 12:56.27 | Untouchab1e | hi all |
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| 13:27.47 | leviathan | tmzt: ok |
| 13:28.03 | leviathan | but I dont like to call something in kernel space android-* |
| 13:28.12 | leviathan | so just removing android will do it |
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| 16:09.50 | MatBee_ | haiahi |
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| 16:53.46 | makkonen | I can haz kernel hackings? |
| 16:58.17 | MatBee_ | orly |
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| 19:35.31 | MatBee_ | ZZ |
| 19:35.40 | MatBee_ | beer and chicken wings |
| 19:35.44 | MatBee_ | me no wanna work |
| 19:49.35 | tmzt | leviathan: I would agree, but if upstream is using androidpmem there is probably a reason, in upstream these drivers are going into staging |
| 19:49.52 | tmzt | so they need to be differentiated in that namespace |
| 19:50.04 | leviathan | wtf? |
| 19:50.14 | leviathan | they let "android" into upstream? |
| 19:50.15 | tmzt | also, drm is preferred for the video stuff and alsa dma should be sufficient for audio |
| 19:50.25 | leviathan | uhhhm |
| 19:50.27 | leviathan | ok |
| 19:50.30 | tmzt | only android actually uses the pmem by itself |
| 19:51.02 | leviathan | ok, if linus wants to let it going, I do not question it |
| 19:51.06 | tmzt | if you have seen the new 2.6.31 you should have alsa seen the new drm driver, froget what it's called, which uses pmem behind the scenes |
| 19:51.17 | leviathan | but I dont like the feeling comit with a distro name in kernel |
| 19:51.20 | tmzt | that can be changed though in future if we get this stuff working |
| 19:51.37 | leviathan | uhm |
| 19:51.45 | leviathan | froget? |
| 19:51.47 | leviathan | ok |
| 19:51.51 | tmzt | and Weiss can probably help use write a new ddx (X driver) using drm and gem |
| 19:51.52 | leviathan | I will take a look |
| 19:52.02 | leviathan | wonderfull |
| 19:52.25 | leviathan | there have been some changes, since I've been running around for supra conducting, right? |
| 19:52.27 | leviathan | ;D |
| 19:52.46 | leviathan | anyway |
| 19:52.52 | tmzt | ? |
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| 19:53.08 | tmzt | how is your work going? |
| 19:53.13 | tmzt | supra? |
| 19:53.21 | leviathan | supra conductors |
| 19:53.26 | leviathan | cooper pairs? |
| 19:53.34 | leviathan | zero resistance? |
| 19:53.38 | tmzt | no clue then sorry |
| 19:53.45 | leviathan | 70°K |
| 19:53.47 | leviathan | :) |
| 19:53.47 | tmzt | yeah, but what do you do |
| 19:54.05 | leviathan | investigating something called gravito magnetism |
| 19:54.20 | leviathan | you can derivate it from the general relativity theory |
| 19:54.52 | leviathan | And I'm investigating if gravito magnetism can induce a gravitation field in a supra conductor |
| 19:54.53 | leviathan | :) |
| 19:55.13 | tmzt | okay, wow |
| 19:55.19 | tmzt | artificial gravity |
| 19:55.25 | leviathan | yes ^^ |
| 19:55.26 | tmzt | of some sort I guess |
| 19:55.33 | phh | oO |
| 19:55.35 | leviathan | yes |
| 19:55.39 | tmzt | that would be incredible |
| 19:56.06 | leviathan | Podkletnov |
| 19:56.10 | tmzt | hmm, so how is kernel work going, I'm curious as to what state and what tree you are working on now |
| 19:56.28 | leviathan | first found out, that material gets lighter, when he puts it over a rotating supra conductor |
| 19:56.37 | leviathan | uhhm |
| 19:56.58 | tmzt | oh |
| 19:57.00 | tmzt | oh |
| 19:57.00 | leviathan | I now got trout panel and the mainboard compiling in torvalds |
| 19:57.12 | tmzt | and booting? |
| 19:57.20 | phh | leviathan: any known reason why ? |
| 19:57.31 | tmzt | don't know the physicsb but this is interesting |
| 19:57.41 | leviathan | http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=summary |
| 19:57.47 | leviathan | uhhm |
| 19:57.50 | tmzt | supra not super? |
| 19:57.51 | leviathan | tmzt: tmzt |
| 19:58.01 | leviathan | tmzt: supra conductor |
| 19:58.13 | tmzt | ok |
| 19:58.22 | leviathan | its a quantum mechanic phenomenon |
| 19:58.43 | leviathan | phh: the reason you can see with magnetic fields |
| 19:59.00 | phh | dipole interactions ? |
| 19:59.07 | leviathan | I'm formulating a theory atm, thats the reason, why the kernel changes take so long |
| 19:59.09 | leviathan | ^^ |
| 19:59.16 | phh | :) |
| 19:59.47 | leviathan | I was 4yours at professor brechnas lab |
| 19:59.52 | leviathan | was totaly interesting |
| 20:00.05 | leviathan | we spinned theories about room temperature supra conductors |
| 20:00.19 | leviathan | and found out that my theory, if we have the finished formulas |
| 20:00.24 | leviathan | also would solve this problem |
| 20:00.38 | phh | you're going to be a millioner then :p |
| 20:00.42 | MatBee_ | or dead |
| 20:00.42 | leviathan | uhhm |
| 20:01.02 | leviathan | I just wanna enoug money to buy my cigarettes, coffee, whisky and food |
| 20:01.08 | MatBee_ | im making an abracadabra conductor |
| 20:01.20 | MatBee_ | out of C# |
| 20:01.27 | leviathan | uhm, ok |
| 20:01.34 | leviathan | I'm making a voodoo conductor |
| 20:01.38 | MatBee_ | ...doubters... |
| 20:01.42 | leviathan | ^^ |
| 20:02.13 | leviathan | so, the phenomenon is well known for magnetic fields |
| 20:02.13 | MatBee_ | ughhhhhh |
| 20:02.29 | leviathan | and its totaly consistent with the relativity theory that you can do it |
| 20:02.37 | leviathan | so it basically MUST happen |
| 20:02.45 | leviathan | not MUSTNT happen |
| 20:03.08 | MatBee_ | doesn't most quantam theory mechanics fuck up theory of relativity.... |
| 20:03.12 | leviathan | so I told him my ideas and he thought I should write down all this stuff |
| 20:03.32 | leviathan | if we get this fucking thing fly'n finally |
| 20:03.48 | leviathan | we have primary a anti gravity drive |
| 20:03.55 | MatBee_ | you should make a bus that's always on time |
| 20:04.05 | leviathan | and by the way also created a bridge between the two theories |
| 20:04.09 | leviathan | which makes them consistent |
| 20:04.22 | leviathan | MatBee_: oh, no problem |
| 20:04.25 | MatBee_ | Which school do you go to? |
| 20:04.37 | leviathan | I simply make a space ship which can travel trough time |
| 20:04.40 | leviathan | a TARDIS |
| 20:04.58 | leviathan | and will just fly backwards in time, if I oversleep |
| 20:04.59 | leviathan | anyway |
| 20:05.00 | leviathan | eating->afk |
| 20:05.04 | MatBee_ | which school? |
| 20:05.27 | MatBee_ | ... |
| 20:10.27 | tmzt | you're half way there lev |
| 20:15.09 | MatBee_ | to only affording whiskey and cigarettes? ;P |
| 20:16.57 | tmzt | time travel |
| 20:19.23 | MatBee_ | just a hunch, but, some of the greatest minds wouldn't have gotten a budget for attaining super-conductivity for the hydron collider if a 3rd year student would solve it |
| 20:19.26 | MatBee_ | just a hunch |
| 20:19.35 | MatBee_ | ;) |
| 20:20.39 | AstainHellbring | hey MatBee_ whats up |
| 20:21.05 | MatBee_ | workin away |
| 20:21.17 | MatBee_ | chippin away at an endless project |
| 20:22.15 | AstainHellbring | fun |
| 20:22.23 | MatBee_ | not at all |
| 20:23.52 | MatBee_ | pickin up my new laptop tomorrow |
| 20:23.57 | MatBee_ | gettin some rom's done up |
| 20:24.12 | AstainHellbring | nice MatBee_ new laptops are always fun |
| 20:24.30 | MatBee_ | i think this rom will simply have all the programs in the start menu all prettied up, and strip some of the provider apps |
| 20:24.47 | MatBee_ | and ill clean up the xip, maybe save us some ram |
| 20:31.15 | MatBee_ | while we wait for some androidian muscle to append itself to our handhelds |
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| 20:52.03 | tmzt | MatBee_: ? |
| 20:52.37 | MatBee_ | hi |
| 20:53.35 | leviathan | re |
| 20:53.43 | leviathan | MatBee_: yeah |
| 20:53.49 | leviathan | the most important thing in the world |
| 20:53.51 | leviathan | drugs |
| 20:53.52 | leviathan | ^^ |
| 20:53.56 | MatBee_ | lol |
| 20:54.31 | MatBee_ | very true |
| 20:54.40 | MatBee_ | constantly getting in the way of natural selection ;P |
| 20:54.49 | leviathan | it would solve a lot of problems if we would generaly legalize drugs |
| 20:55.02 | leviathan | over population would go back |
| 20:55.07 | leviathan | because of more overdozes |
| 20:55.14 | MatBee_ | hopefully |
| 20:55.17 | leviathan | less self murderer |
| 20:55.30 | leviathan | because they are too stoned to recognize that they are unhappy |
| 20:55.41 | leviathan | and: very important |
| 20:55.45 | MatBee_ | I imagine the stoned ones are happier than the sober |
| 20:55.49 | MatBee_ | for the most part |
| 20:56.18 | leviathan | but atm I'm so glad to be near a very hard problem |
| 20:56.25 | leviathan | I made a bridge in my head |
| 20:56.33 | leviathan | because relativity and string theory |
| 20:56.46 | MatBee_ | omg |
| 20:56.48 | leviathan | my professor is absolut interested because it sounds consistent |
| 20:56.50 | MatBee_ | its 4 |
| 20:56.52 | MatBee_ | home time!~ |
| 20:56.58 | leviathan | okee |
| 20:57.04 | leviathan | here it is 22.00h |
| 20:57.11 | MatBee_ | ahh |
| 20:57.20 | MatBee_ | one more day and it's friday <3 |
| 20:57.25 | YellowGTO|Nix_ | Hi |
| 20:57.33 | leviathan | YellowGTO|Nix_: hi |
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| 20:58.08 | YellowGTO|Nix_ | Hows everything going? |
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| 21:17.47 | leviathan | YellowGTO|Nix_: good thx |
| 21:17.50 | leviathan | uhhm |
| 21:17.51 | leviathan | btw |
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| 21:18.12 | leviathan | does someone have good documents about java acceleration on mobile devices? |
| 21:18.34 | leviathan | perhaps I could use it to optimize gnu linux on smart phones |
| 21:18.35 | tmzt | in what way? |
| 21:18.36 | leviathan | ^^ |
| 21:18.42 | tmzt | huh? |
| 21:18.47 | leviathan | yeah |
| 21:18.51 | leviathan | performance |
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| 21:19.05 | leviathan | theres a gcc flag for java isnt it? |
| 21:19.14 | leviathan | perhaps I could extend the gcc functions |
| 21:19.17 | leviathan | :D |
| 21:19.17 | tmzt | to do what |
| 21:19.30 | leviathan | to use the registers of this unit too |
| 21:19.41 | leviathan | or if its an additional unit |
| 21:19.49 | leviathan | using its power too |
| 21:19.55 | leviathan | like smp |
| 21:20.00 | leviathan | only with different core types |
| 21:20.07 | tmzt | the java jazelle stuff? |
| 21:20.11 | tmzt | it's not faster |
| 21:20.15 | tmzt | what unit then? |
| 21:20.36 | leviathan | http://pastebin.com/m63f4b357 |
| 21:20.47 | leviathan | there is edsp |
| 21:20.50 | leviathan | fastmult |
| 21:20.53 | leviathan | swp |
| 21:20.56 | leviathan | and java |
| 21:21.28 | leviathan | so java means java acceleration |
| 21:21.29 | leviathan | right? |
| 21:21.38 | leviathan | so we could use it to improve performance |
| 21:21.54 | GNUtoo | leviathan, no we do not have the doc for jazelle |
| 21:21.55 | GNUtoo | btw hi |
| 21:22.01 | leviathan | GNUtoo: hi |
| 21:22.17 | leviathan | okee, we do not have the doc |
| 21:22.22 | GNUtoo | jazelle is a CPU mode like for instance thumb |
| 21:22.26 | leviathan | othe question: can we steal a doc? |
| 21:22.28 | leviathan | ;D |
| 21:22.31 | GNUtoo | look at the implementation for avr32 |
| 21:22.35 | GNUtoo | if you want more details |
| 21:22.38 | GNUtoo | lol |
| 21:22.39 | leviathan | ok |
| 21:23.01 | GNUtoo | if there is no free implementation I bet it's because there is no doc... |
| 21:23.16 | tmzt | gcc will use the others if you tell it the cpu |
| 21:23.24 | tmzt | are you still doing oe? |
| 21:23.36 | tmzt | just build for armv7novfp |
| 21:23.55 | tmzt | msmfb works on upstream on g1? |
| 21:24.07 | leviathan | tmzt: yes |
| 21:24.09 | leviathan | uhhm |
| 21:24.13 | leviathan | you mean upstram |
| 21:24.14 | leviathan | dunno |
| 21:24.15 | leviathan | will try |
| 21:24.38 | leviathan | tmzt: can you give me please the exact link pointing to the branch with frog alsa? |
| 21:24.47 | leviathan | sounds interesting |
| 21:24.58 | tmzt | are you powering fown and reiniting the lcd then |
| 21:25.01 | tmzt | are you powering fown and reiniting the lcd then? |
| 21:25.06 | tmzt | frog? |
| 21:25.10 | tmzt | no idea |
| 21:26.35 | leviathan | uhm someone told me about an alsa driver for qdsp5 in upstream |
| 21:26.39 | leviathan | ohh |
| 21:26.49 | leviathan | phh: did you tell me about this driver? |
| 21:27.06 | phh | maybe |
| 21:27.10 | leviathan | <tmzt> if you have seen the new 2.6.31 you should have alsa seen the new drm driver, froget what it's called, which uses pmem behind the scenes |
| 21:27.16 | leviathan | nope |
| 21:27.23 | leviathan | it definitly was tmzt |
| 21:27.24 | leviathan | :) |
| 21:27.33 | tmzt | hah |
| 21:27.36 | tmzt | forget |
| 21:27.53 | tmzt | not an audio driver, video driver |
| 21:28.10 | leviathan | ok |
| 21:28.21 | leviathan | oh, you mean also, not alsa -.- |
| 21:28.30 | leviathan | now the phrase makes sense |
| 21:28.34 | leviathan | ok, well |
| 21:28.41 | tmzt | yeah |
| 21:29.02 | tmzt | haha |
| 21:29.10 | tmzt | too many alsa/also's |
| 21:29.16 | leviathan | xD |
| 21:29.22 | leviathan | ok, uhhm |
| 21:29.39 | leviathan | I'll look if alsa works on 2.6.32 |
| 21:29.45 | tmzt | too many alsa/also'mission thing, as well as gem/drm for buffer managment |
| 21:29.56 | tmzt | that one is from codeaurora |
| 21:30.12 | leviathan | uhhm |
| 21:30.13 | leviathan | ok |
| 21:30.25 | tmzt | it's a gl command submission thing, as well as gem/drm for buffer managment |
| 21:32.11 | phh | anyway alsa driver is in codeaurora |
| 21:34.17 | leviathan | uhhm |
| 21:34.18 | leviathan | ok |
| 21:34.26 | leviathan | I'll try to build it on 2.6.32 |
| 21:34.29 | leviathan | lets see if it works |
| 21:36.12 | leviathan | if it works |
| 21:36.17 | leviathan | we have working alsa |
| 21:36.26 | leviathan | that means, we have working stuff |
| 21:36.27 | leviathan | hmm |
| 21:36.43 | tmzt | we do? |
| 21:36.50 | tmzt | based on what |
| 21:37.00 | leviathan | fbdev works |
| 21:37.02 | leviathan | :) |
| 21:37.13 | leviathan | anyway... |
| 21:37.20 | leviathan | Im checking out codeaura 2.6.29 |
| 21:37.33 | leviathan | I've seen, they have alsa in there with this release too |
| 21:37.42 | leviathan | so I'll try to boot |
| 21:37.51 | leviathan | if it boots then I'll try if it works |
| 21:37.53 | leviathan | if it works |
| 21:38.02 | leviathan | I'll look why, and will modify the main kernel |
| 21:38.06 | leviathan | so that it does too |
| 21:38.25 | leviathan | the problem is, that vanilla refuses to boot without the android stuff |
| 21:38.35 | leviathan | why the cant do it like other distro |
| 21:38.47 | leviathan | separate this shit?? |
| 21:38.58 | tmzt | huh? |
| 21:39.06 | tmzt | without what android stuff? |
| 21:39.29 | leviathan | is android_pmem really needed to start a simple framebuffer console?? |
| 21:39.33 | leviathan | I dont think so |
| 21:39.34 | leviathan | -.- |
| 21:39.40 | leviathan | there are other ways |
| 21:39.58 | tmzt | with the drm stuff |
| 21:40.03 | leviathan | hmm |
| 21:40.08 | tmzt | yeah, because the fbdev becomes a drm client |
| 21:40.20 | leviathan | ... okee |
| 21:40.57 | leviathan | ok |
| 21:41.03 | leviathan | simple question |
| 21:41.09 | leviathan | in which branch is this drm driver |
| 21:41.14 | leviathan | and where can I download it? |
| 21:41.45 | leviathan | because its a little bit confusing |
| 21:42.16 | leviathan | android.git.kernel.org, git.codeaura.org, git.linux-to-go.org, git.kernel.org |
| 21:42.20 | leviathan | gitorious.org |
| 21:42.22 | leviathan | -.- |
| 21:42.28 | leviathan | should I continue |
| 21:42.29 | leviathan | ? |
| 21:42.38 | leviathan | just tell me please which repo, which server |
| 21:42.43 | leviathan | then I'll check out and try |
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| 21:47.12 | tmzt | hmm |
| 21:47.24 | tmzt | sorry I got a call |
| 21:47.34 | tmzt | ca I think |
| 21:47.36 | tmzt | wait |
| 21:47.42 | tmzt | android experimental.git |
| 21:48.03 | tmzt | can't remeber which one of those, check the commit log |
| 22:01.22 | leviathan | okee |
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| 22:11.43 | tmzt | leviathan: you should quickly see what I'm talking about if it's there, it will be in drivers/video/gpu I think |
| 22:12.05 | leviathan | uhhm |
| 22:12.07 | leviathan | ok |
| 22:12.41 | leviathan | drivers/gpu/drm/? |
| 22:15.40 | tmzt | yeah |
| 22:16.16 | leviathan | uhhm |
| 22:16.26 | leviathan | and how should the driver be called? |
| 22:16.36 | leviathan | because I dont see anything like msm |
| 22:17.54 | tmzt | hold on |
| 22:22.55 | tmzt | 32-test-1 |
| 22:22.58 | tmzt | is new |
| 22:23.01 | tmzt | try 30 |
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| 22:23.34 | phh | eh leviathan https://www.codeaurora.org/index.php?xwinp |
| 22:23.36 | phh | is that new ? |
| 22:23.41 | phh | (optimized X window server) |
| 22:24.00 | phh | using GEM driver :) |
| 22:24.39 | tmzt | how much is there? |
| 22:24.51 | tmzt | was nothing but xaa stuff and gtk stuff |
| 22:25.10 | leviathan | hmm |
| 22:25.12 | phh | that's nothing ... ? |
| 22:25.17 | leviathan | interesting |
| 22:25.25 | phh | comparing to fbdev, i don't call that nothing but well. |
| 22:26.02 | tmzt | phh: was nothing, if ddx is there awesome |
| 22:26.05 | tmzt | but it wasn't |
| 22:26.37 | leviathan | uhhm |
| 22:26.46 | leviathan | its based on the proprietary driver |
| 22:26.50 | leviathan | I want an open driver |
| 22:27.00 | phh | leviathan: uh ? which proprietary driver ? |
| 22:27.07 | leviathan | binary one? |
| 22:27.09 | phh | tmzt: what is ddx again ? |
| 22:27.14 | leviathan | *.so-file :) |
| 22:27.16 | leviathan | gem |
| 22:27.24 | phh | leviathan: gem is proprietary ? |
| 22:27.35 | leviathan | oops |
| 22:27.36 | leviathan | mom |
| 22:28.07 | leviathan | mixed something |
| 22:28.15 | phh | I'm not saying it doesn't rely on any binary thing, but I can't see where there is such a depend |
| 22:28.18 | leviathan | no I mean the thing in the background theire using for msm |
| 22:28.38 | leviathan | that file you can link in to get 3d-acceleration |
| 22:28.41 | leviathan | anyway... |
| 22:28.48 | phh | yes, i'm talking only about 2D |
| 22:28.53 | leviathan | I'm looking into the drm thing |
| 22:29.14 | tmzt | it's 2d mostly |
| 22:29.30 | tmzt | but they seem to be moving away from pmem for the user 3d driver |
| 22:29.37 | tmzt | ah, wait that's on qsd kernels |
| 22:29.45 | tmzt | with ati 2.0 |
| 22:29.53 | tmzt | but we can use it for 2d |
| 22:30.00 | tmzt | and offscreen pixmaps |
| 22:30.07 | tmzt | ddx - display dependent X |
| 22:30.50 | phh | that helps a lot. or not. |
| 22:31.34 | tmzt | vs, display independent X |
| 22:31.39 | tmzt | (dix) |
| 22:31.48 | tmzt | two many parts of Xorg |
| 22:31.51 | tmzt | main |
| 22:32.18 | phh | I still don't understand -_- |
| 22:33.56 | tmzt | the part of X that depends on the specific display or video card |
| 22:34.07 | tmzt | essentially it's the term for a video driver |
| 22:34.18 | leviathan | hmm |
| 22:34.21 | leviathan | ok |
| 22:34.22 | phh | hu there is no X driver in there ? |
| 22:34.45 | leviathan | I'm building SHR for my freerunner atm |
| 22:34.46 | leviathan | btw |
| 22:34.52 | leviathan | lets see if it finished |
| 22:34.57 | leviathan | means builds trough |
| 22:34.59 | leviathan | if yes |
| 22:35.09 | leviathan | would be cool |
| 22:35.12 | phh | tmzt: so the name "xf86-video-msm" is stupid ?!? |
| 22:35.28 | leviathan | uhm |
| 22:35.30 | leviathan | where? |
| 22:35.57 | leviathan | does something like that exist? |
| 22:35.59 | phh | bah the gitweb link on the page i gave |
| 22:36.03 | leviathan | would be glorious to try |
| 22:36.04 | phh | https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/xwin/?p=xf86-video-msm.git;a=summary |
| 22:37.01 | leviathan | well |
| 22:37.07 | leviathan | is there also a bitbake recipe? |
| 22:37.38 | phh | you're maybe asking a bit too much :p |
| 22:37.53 | leviathan | xD |
| 22:37.56 | leviathan | np |
| 22:38.01 | leviathan | I'll do one |
| 22:38.02 | leviathan | ^^ |
| 22:38.08 | leviathan | as soon as I got alsa working |
| 22:38.36 | phh | yeah... maybe don't wait that long |
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| 22:39.13 | leviathan | :) |
| 22:39.24 | leviathan | I'll fix it until congress I guess |
| 22:39.26 | leviathan | okee |
| 22:40.21 | phh | and it shouldn't be too hard to do, copy paste existing xorg-video-xxx :D |
| 22:40.22 | leviathan | I also wanted to make an initial formulation of my energy consuption theorie as extension of the stringtheorie for describing the gravitation effect with supraconductors |
| 22:40.34 | leviathan | but, theres time for everything |
| 22:40.47 | leviathan | especially because I've got hollidays sine tomorrow |
| 22:41.03 | leviathan | *since |
| 22:41.08 | leviathan | does that work? |
| 22:41.09 | leviathan | anyway |
| 22:41.22 | leviathan | phh: yes |
| 22:41.34 | leviathan | as soon as I build the next release for htcdream |
| 22:41.42 | leviathan | I'll use xorg with this driver |
| 22:42.00 | phh | I wonder if they implemented xrandr as well |
| 22:43.28 | phh | rotation is "to be done" |
| 22:43.48 | tmzt | rotation is hard in Xorg |
| 22:43.54 | tmzt | unfortunately |
| 22:44.05 | phh | using some EXA transforms no ? |
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| 22:44.34 | phh | I can see that MSMCheckTransform (is supposed to) checks for rotations |
| 22:44.38 | leviathan | wtf? |
| 22:44.53 | leviathan | rotation is one of the most important things on a smartphone with keyboard -.- |
| 22:44.54 | phh | leviathan: ? |
| 22:45.20 | phh | it fallbacks to software anyway |
| 22:45.56 | leviathan | there are no problems, only solutions ;) |
| 22:46.27 | leviathan | thats what a wise, old woman from cern told me once |
| 22:47.06 | phh | I wonder if codeaurora is open enough so that I can push some code for wince boards. |
| 22:48.02 | leviathan | hmm |
| 22:48.07 | leviathan | else we can make git.o2s.ch |
| 22:48.12 | leviathan | and a branch for you :) |
| 22:48.39 | phh | being pushed on codeaurora would be a lot more fun :D |
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| 22:51.47 | lamusic | hi all |
| 22:52.10 | leviathan | hi lamusic |
| 22:53.08 | lamusic | tmzt: forward me here, because apprently one people have a patch for build a wifi module for 2.6.32 kernel, is possible share to me this please ? :) |
| 22:53.26 | leviathan | -.- |
| 22:53.33 | lamusic | leviathan: ah , you are the people run on 2.6.32 ? :) |
| 22:53.39 | phh | a patch ?!? |
| 22:53.44 | phh | it should be included upstream |
| 22:53.55 | lamusic | oh, the wifi too |
| 22:54.06 | lamusic | for sapphire 32B too ? |
| 22:54.21 | tmzt | la wants the android compat stuff for wifi |
| 22:54.31 | tmzt | same chip |
| 22:54.31 | leviathan | http://www.orbit-lab.org/kernel/compat-wireless-2.6/2009/11/ |
| 22:54.48 | phh | why compat thing if he has 2.6.32 ? |
| 22:54.58 | lamusic | sorry, i |
| 22:55.25 | lamusic | what is the way for wifi work on 2.6.32 with sapphire 32B device please ? |
| 22:55.28 | leviathan | http://bobcopeland.com/android_wifi.html |
| 22:55.29 | lamusic | is simple config in kernel ? |
| 22:55.43 | leviathan | merge into kernel i guess |
| 22:55.45 | leviathan | :) |
| 22:56.05 | leviathan | nope |
| 22:56.08 | leviathan | just select |
| 22:56.10 | leviathan | its there |
| 22:56.11 | leviathan | ^^ |
| 22:56.15 | phh | well there is the msm_wifi thing |
| 22:56.20 | leviathan | genious |
| 22:56.23 | leviathan | yes |
| 22:56.41 | phh | but compat-wireless thing should be not needed |
| 22:56.51 | phh | (unless you want bleeding edge driver version) |
| 22:56.53 | phh | (but you don't) |
| 22:57.01 | tmzt | I mean the android compatible ioctls |
| 22:57.11 | tmzt | not wireless compat |
| 22:57.30 | phh | you mean the wpa_supplicant patch to be able to talk to android |
| 22:57.34 | phh | or to TI's wifi driver ? |
| 22:57.39 | lamusic | http://bobcopeland.com/srcs/android/msm_wifi.patch only one for me ? |
| 22:57.41 | lamusic | oh |
| 22:57.44 | lamusic | thanks boy |
| 22:57.47 | leviathan | android doesnt concern me :O |
| 23:01.28 | tmzt | phh: ioctls so that those wpa supplicant patches talk to |
| 23:01.38 | tmzt | phh: ioctls so that those wpa supplicant patches can be used |
| 23:01.53 | tmzt | like in the gito project |
| 23:02.03 | phh | I still don't get what you want ... |
| 23:02.17 | phh | first, android doesn't do any wifi-related ioctl by himself, only wpa_supplicant does |
| 23:04.01 | tmzt | yes |
| 23:04.15 | tmzt | what's the project called |
| 23:04.21 | tmzt | with these patches |
| 23:04.33 | tmzt | yes, but they patched wpa to work with tiwlan |
| 23:04.49 | phh | so you want the patches to get wpa_supplicant working with tiwlan driver ? |
| 23:04.49 | tmzt | instead of adding wireless extensions to tiwlan |
| 23:04.54 | tmzt | no |
| 23:04.59 | phh | bah /o\ |
| 23:05.05 | tmzt | to make wl12xx act like tiwlan |
| 23:05.08 | phh | ok |
| 23:05.36 | phh | so patches are on http://bobcopeland.com/android_wifi.html |
| 23:05.47 | leviathan | I'm not fan of it |
| 23:05.51 | leviathan | there are standarts |
| 23:05.56 | phh | leviathan: me neither. |
| 23:06.10 | phh | but APIs that google added doesn't seem idiot |
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| 23:25.45 | lamusic | # cat /proc/version |
| 23:25.45 | lamusic | Linux version 2.6.32-59387-gddfdcc2 (luo@rtfm) (gcc version 4.4.0 (GCC) ) #1 PREEMPT Fri Dec 18 00:48:21 CET 2009 |
| 23:25.54 | tmzt | thanks |
| 23:25.57 | tmzt | 32a? |
| 23:26.02 | lamusic | my htc magic is booting, but not wifi and not camera at time |
| 23:26.07 | lamusic | sapphire 32B |
| 23:26.12 | tmzt | ok |
| 23:26.13 | lamusic | but dream work i thinks |
| 23:26.23 | lamusic | i look at for the camera |
| 23:26.39 | tmzt | I think lev is integrating it with upstream and testing on dream |
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| 23:31.22 | leviathan | yes |
| 23:31.31 | leviathan | very near |
| 23:31.38 | leviathan | alsa produces oops on bootup |
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| 23:31.42 | leviathan | but I'll fix it |
| 23:31.43 | leviathan | ^^ |
| 23:32.00 | phh | leviathan: did you try freeing camera ? |
| 23:32.16 | phh | (there are so many things to free in htc dream) |
| 23:32.33 | tmzt | with v4l driver? |
| 23:32.43 | phh | yes |
| 23:33.04 | phh | there is some drivers in codeaurora iirc |
| 23:33.09 | phh | (or at least in samsung's code) |
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| 23:34.02 | leviathan | I'm testing atm |
| 23:34.36 | phh | btw, do you sleep sometime ? :D |
| 23:35.31 | tmzt | try mt driver in that exp |
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| 23:36.07 | lamusic | yes the camera is only config, i see this, i'm rebuilding |
| 23:36.26 | lamusic | oh but haha, the build crash |
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| 23:36.55 | lamusic | for me, good night : http://dpaste.com/134780/ |
| 23:37.20 | phh | lamusic: hum I don't think it's just rebuilding |
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| 23:37.37 | phh | "old" kernels use a propriatary qualcomm's libcamera |
| 23:37.51 | phh | oh well, this one is okk |
| 23:37.54 | phh | -k |
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| 23:38.22 | leviathan | hmm, ok |
| 23:38.44 | leviathan | phh: I'm a reptile, I dont need so much sleep :P |
| 23:38.46 | tmzt | neew libhardware for v4l camaera? |
| 23:38.47 | leviathan | joke |
| 23:38.51 | leviathan | sure |
| 23:38.53 | leviathan | I sleep |
| 23:38.53 | tmzt | is dma done with pmem? |
| 23:38.58 | phh | tmzt: i haven't heard of that :/ |
| 23:38.58 | leviathan | but not so much |
| 23:39.12 | leviathan | hmm |
| 23:39.13 | tmzt | libhardware patches |
| 23:39.13 | leviathan | ok |
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| 23:39.16 | leviathan | lets see |
| 23:39.26 | leviathan | hmm |
| 23:39.37 | leviathan | cam need reverse too? |
| 23:39.42 | phh | leviathan: no |
| 23:39.47 | phh | there are some free driver |
| 23:39.51 | phh | but not used in actual android release |
| 23:39.56 | leviathan | yes, I saw /dev/video20 |
| 23:39.57 | phh | i mean for g1 |
| 23:40.03 | phh | video20... ? |
| 23:40.04 | leviathan | so I thought its free |
| 23:40.08 | leviathan | yes |
| 23:40.11 | leviathan | /dev/video20 |
| 23:40.15 | leviathan | all the time |
| 23:40.15 | leviathan | dunno |
| 23:40.21 | leviathan | perhaps udev+SHR |
| 23:40.23 | leviathan | ... |
| 23:40.44 | tmzt | or mer |
| 23:40.56 | tmzt | unless you like bitbaking all the time |
| 23:41.03 | tmzt | in which case oe/shr |
| 23:41.43 | phh | leviathan: the android eclair sources I have relies on a non free libqcamera |
| 23:42.25 | phh | haha |
| 23:42.31 | phh | there is no libhardware thing for camera |
| 23:44.33 | leviathan | shit, they have changed something for alsa in 2.6.32 |
| 23:44.45 | leviathan | and the soc-driver always makes oops on bootup |
| 23:44.47 | leviathan | ... |
| 23:47.53 | leviathan | hm |
| 23:48.16 | leviathan | I will upload patches |
| 23:48.24 | leviathan | as soon as I have finished |
| 23:48.46 | tmzt | please do |
| 23:48.53 | tmzt | I would like to see them |
| 23:49.58 | leviathan | I now make module |
| 23:50.05 | leviathan | to see where the error happens |
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