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| 00:13.20 | ToAsTcfh | tmzt: quiet got data working |
| 00:18.55 | ToAsTcfh | echo -n 'config:auth 2' > /dev/qmi0 |
| 00:18.55 | ToAsTcfh | echo -n 'config:tech 2' > /dev/qmi0 |
| 00:18.55 | ToAsTcfh | echo -n 'up:0 ' > /dev/qmi0 |
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| 00:28.00 | tmzt | a cool |
| 00:28.11 | tmzt | please paste those in #ofono as well |
| 00:28.20 | tmzt | just the lasgt three |
| 00:28.29 | ToAsTcfh | yeah i guess now its how to get it to do it auto |
| 00:28.45 | tmzt | how is ip autoconfig handled? |
| 00:29.45 | ToAsTcfh | im not sure. he posted these on his thread |
| 00:29.53 | ToAsTcfh | dns |
| 00:30.15 | tmzt | okay, paste the thread there |
| 00:30.46 | ToAsTcfh | whats the best way to get these to happen automaticly? |
| 00:33.25 | ToAsTcfh | tmzt:? |
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| 00:35.45 | tmzt | get binary qmi in userspace |
| 00:36.07 | ToAsTcfh | java? |
| 00:37.26 | tmzt | no |
| 00:38.35 | ToAsTcfh | then what? |
| 00:39.29 | tmzt | add support to gatchat |
| 00:40.32 | ToAsTcfh | ew... ive never even hesard of it |
| 00:41.43 | tmzt | dummy is diasbaled |
| 00:41.46 | tmzt | phh: |
| 00:41.51 | tmzt | ToAsTcfh: part of ofono |
| 00:58.58 | ToAsTcfh | ok tmzt how are we gonna get these to happen without using adb everytime we boot |
| 01:03.49 | tmzt | so the init is nooped |
| 01:04.33 | tmzt | ToAsTcfh: I mean let's not discuss which android version works and which doesn't |
| 01:04.38 | tmzt | over there |
| 01:04.49 | tmzt | we need to be able to bring it up manaully |
| 01:04.57 | tmzt | so we can code a driver for ofono |
| 01:05.11 | tmzt | and the write a proxy to let the ril code in android talk to it |
| 01:09.16 | ali1234 | so there's a ril for ofono? |
| 01:09.31 | ali1234 | or that's what you're going to make? |
| 01:14.46 | tmzt | an interface from android ril to ofono |
| 01:14.59 | tmzt | once it/connman can bring up the network |
| 01:15.26 | tmzt | I don't like crosscompiling and fso is in too much of a state of flux at the low level |
| 01:15.37 | tmzt | not the api itself, but the code |
| 01:15.55 | tmzt | anyway, legacy ril is just broken |
| 01:17.54 | ali1234 | interesting anyway |
| 01:18.17 | ali1234 | i guess i will try to get wizard gsm working with ofono, but not until after xmas at the earliest |
| 01:22.27 | ToAsTcfh | tmzt i cant fine what service it is in the init.rc |
| 01:23.16 | tmzt | email it tot me |
| 01:23.30 | tmzt | ali1234: okay, cool |
| 01:26.53 | tmzt | ali1234: what do atmel interrupt vectors look like? |
| 01:27.04 | tmzt | do they have a hardware vector table? |
| 01:27.08 | ali1234 | atmel what? |
| 01:27.16 | tmzt | say atmega328 |
| 01:27.55 | tmzt | I'm watching a presentation on aduion dmn |
| 01:28.02 | tmzt | arduino |
| 01:28.34 | ToAsTcfh | did u get my email i sent? |
| 01:28.48 | tmzt | not yet |
| 01:29.06 | ali1234 | i'm pretty sure they just jump to a fixed memory address where you install whatever handler you want |
| 01:29.07 | tmzt | it has to push it |
| 01:29.17 | tmzt | okay, that's what he said |
| 01:29.24 | tmzt | of course arm, msm don't |
| 01:29.40 | tmzt | they have a demux routine |
| 01:29.57 | ali1234 | avr is 8 bit with a tiny amount of ram... |
| 01:30.20 | tmzt | is there a timer register to reset the scaler to a certain value? |
| 01:30.27 | tmzt | after it fires |
| 01:30.33 | tmzt | ah, ok |
| 01:30.46 | ali1234 | not sure. avr is not comparable to arm in any way |
| 01:30.52 | tmzt | right |
| 01:31.15 | ali1234 | avr-32 is totally different of course |
| 01:31.20 | ali1234 | don't know anything about those |
| 01:31.22 | tmzt | things things are incredibly simple |
| 01:31.37 | tmzt | clear int on read? |
| 01:32.08 | ali1234 | don't know these specifics off hand... you'll have to get the datasheet :) |
| 01:33.02 | tmzt | yeah that's okay |
| 01:33.08 | tmzt | I wasn't asking |
| 01:33.22 | tmzt | just can't believe how complex our chips are sometimes |
| 01:33.42 | ali1234 | horses for courses |
| 01:34.44 | ali1234 | somebody built a NES-like games console using atmega, and that's incredible hacking skills... they're not even meant for that kind of use |
| 01:36.02 | tmzt | how many of them? |
| 01:36.14 | tmzt | if the video stuff and everything is done that way |
| 01:36.25 | tmzt | not much worse than z80 though |
| 01:36.34 | tmzt | which projects do you work on? |
| 01:36.34 | ali1234 | there's a few different projects actually, i think one uses just a single atmega |
| 01:36.38 | tmzt | in hardware |
| 01:37.06 | tmzt | I guess a general purpose os would be quite hard |
| 01:37.12 | ali1234 | yeah |
| 01:37.12 | tmzt | on the 8 biit devices |
| 01:37.41 | ali1234 | i haven't really done much on avr, i know the openservo guy well |
| 01:37.43 | ali1234 | known as ginge here :) |
| 01:38.21 | tmzt | ah right |
| 01:39.45 | tmzt | that's asm or c? |
| 01:39.49 | ali1234 | i did some hacking on s1mp3, which means no-name chinese mp3 players with z80 cores |
| 01:40.00 | tmzt | yeah, those are cool |
| 01:40.03 | ali1234 | openservo is mostly C, possibly entirely C |
| 01:41.24 | ali1234 | openservo is a really cool project... the control it gives over the servo is basically better than what most hobby servos and robots can handle |
| 01:42.21 | ali1234 | it could easily drive a full size biped, if somebody could come up with a decent frame |
| 01:42.57 | tmzt | this arduino server stuff is pretty cool |
| 01:43.00 | tmzt | servo |
| 01:43.02 | tmzt | uh |
| 01:43.18 | tmzt | I don't know what library it uses internally though |
| 01:43.22 | ali1234 | not looked at it |
| 01:43.30 | tmzt | servo.attach(2) |
| 01:43.48 | tmzt | server.write(0) // full ccw |
| 01:43.51 | tmzt | that's it |
| 01:43.54 | ali1234 | lol |
| 01:43.55 | tmzt | 2 is the pin |
| 01:44.07 | ali1234 | and write(0) is the angle you want? |
| 01:44.08 | tmzt | no pwm support yet though |
| 01:44.15 | ali1234 | that's terrible :) |
| 01:44.16 | tmzt | hmm, not sure |
| 01:44.36 | tmzt | the bike sounds awesome, so a video on them |
| 01:45.01 | ali1234 | on openservo you upload a hermite curve describing what the servo is to do, then the avr interpolates and adjusts for load, while providing feedback |
| 01:45.15 | ali1234 | it's total overkill |
| 01:45.39 | tmzt | yeah, write is the angle |
| 01:45.40 | ali1234 | unless you're trying to build a real terminator |
| 01:47.22 | tmzt | terminator? |
| 01:47.56 | ali1234 | you know, like the movie? |
| 01:48.19 | tmzt | ah |
| 01:48.33 | tmzt | he uses a 6502 though |
| 01:48.57 | tmzt | which is far less capable from my memory for the interfacing stuff |
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| 01:49.07 | tmzt | but 6mhz tristate |
| 01:49.10 | tmzt | hmm |
| 01:49.21 | ali1234 | the beauty of openservo is it is really simple to interface |
| 01:49.27 | ali1234 | they are controlled over i2c |
| 01:49.32 | tmzt | no cam? |
| 01:49.48 | ali1234 | cam is too expensive for the project |
| 01:50.05 | ali1234 | avr has i2c, so they use i2c :) |
| 01:50.07 | tmzt | the new rerap design is using it or a similar multilevel bus |
| 01:50.10 | tmzt | too noisy |
| 01:50.17 | tmzt | they have cam versions now |
| 01:50.39 | ali1234 | wait cam? |
| 01:50.45 | ali1234 | do you mean can? |
| 01:51.27 | ali1234 | (canbus) |
| 01:53.42 | tmzt | yes |
| 01:53.44 | tmzt | sorry |
| 01:54.09 | tmzt | avr with can chip onboard |
| 01:54.20 | ali1234 | yeah, can was considered, but would have been to expensive for a hobby project |
| 01:55.58 | ali1234 | also openservo is designed to fit inside the servo casing, replacing the PWM controlled circuit... so it needs to be really small |
| 01:56.39 | ali1234 | so it turns a cheap generic servo into a high end digital controlled one, for very low cost |
| 01:56.52 | tmzt | yeah |
| 01:56.56 | tmzt | I see |
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| 02:05.10 | tmzt | ToAsTcfh: can you paste it in the email |
| 02:05.15 | tmzt | wm won't open .rc |
| 02:06.26 | MrPippy | where can i get the ramzswap and xvmalloc modules? are they helpful? |
| 02:07.11 | tmzt | the exact ones? no idea |
| 02:07.17 | tmzt | ask cyanogen in #android |
| 02:09.32 | MrPippy | ok, phh had posted a link a few days ago but it 404s |
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| 02:22.05 | mintishhippo | hello |
| 02:22.08 | mintishhippo | ? |
| 02:24.25 | tmzt | hello |
| 02:24.43 | ToAsTcfh | hello |
| 02:24.49 | ToAsTcfh | sent again |
| 02:25.30 | tmzt | thanks |
| 02:26.12 | tmzt | gmail is being slow |
| 02:31.40 | ToAsTcfh | tmzt: when i run wifi it says in logcat its starting then as soon as it starts it crashes the phone and will boot loop till u do a factory wipe. any ideas? |
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| 02:32.03 | tmzt | wifi? |
| 02:32.12 | tmzt | don't know |
| 02:32.27 | ToAsTcfh | yeah wifi. trying to figure it out |
| 02:32.43 | ToAsTcfh | oh well. |
| 02:33.45 | ToAsTcfh | i think im gonna use the rild and stuff from the aoosp rom and try to put it in my 2.1 |
| 02:34.46 | ToAsTcfh | thoase comands wont work for mme. the ips assign and all but it still has no data |
| 02:35.08 | tmzt | pretty sure that won't work |
| 02:35.11 | tmzt | hmm |
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| 02:35.20 | ToAsTcfh | i have everything but data working in my build |
| 02:35.22 | tmzt | why can't you bring it up? |
| 02:35.27 | ToAsTcfh | idk |
| 02:35.44 | tmzt | did you stop ril? |
| 02:36.11 | ToAsTcfh | in aosp? or my rom? |
| 02:36.41 | tmzt | either |
| 02:36.45 | ToAsTcfh | no |
| 02:38.03 | ToAsTcfh | i can still ping data after stop ril |
| 02:39.09 | ToAsTcfh | did u get my email yetr |
| 02:41.52 | tmzt | you can ping after stop ril |
| 02:42.02 | ToAsTcfh | yes\ |
| 02:42.07 | tmzt | but we need to start rmnet without ril |
| 02:42.22 | ToAsTcfh | idk |
| 02:43.48 | tmzt | ril-daemon |
| 02:43.53 | tmzt | stop ril-daemon |
| 02:45.06 | ToAsTcfh | hold up i started over did a reset |
| 02:46.34 | tmzt | good |
| 02:46.40 | tmzt | shutdown data |
| 02:46.45 | tmzt | then stop ril |
| 02:46.55 | tmzt | try to bring up qmi |
| 02:47.00 | ToAsTcfh | tmzt: i did a wipe. is there anything u want me to do before i start data up?! |
| 02:47.05 | tmzt | tell me if you have an ip on rmnet0 |
| 02:47.33 | tmzt | actually comment ril in init.rc |
| 02:47.36 | tmzt | is the best way |
| 02:47.54 | ToAsTcfh | ok no ip |
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| 02:50.32 | ToAsTcfh | tmzt: |
| 02:53.00 | tmzt | huh? |
| 03:07.18 | ToAsTcfh | woot. i got it working in my 2.1 build |
| 03:07.37 | ToAsTcfh | rmnet0 wasnt getting put up |
| 03:48.11 | ToAsTcfh | also had to put it in airplane mode and back out before data would start. so im thinking in order for it to work i have to restart the ril |
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| 13:39.20 | Captnoord | phh |
| 13:39.24 | Captnoord | or anyother one |
| 13:39.32 | Captnoord | the gllib.o |
| 13:39.43 | Captnoord | is there a way to get some |
| 13:39.44 | Captnoord | ? |
| 13:39.44 | Captnoord | :P |
| 13:40.26 | Captnoord | libgles.so |
| 13:40.28 | Captnoord | I mean |
| 13:54.47 | Captnoord | nvm |
| 14:20.18 | tids2k | netripper pong |
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| 14:20.34 | NetRipper | ping |
| 14:20.47 | MatBee_ | pong |
| 14:21.47 | tids2k | lol |
| 14:22.00 | tids2k | hows the dev. |
| 14:22.15 | NetRipper | errr |
| 14:22.21 | NetRipper | not much change |
| 14:22.24 | tids2k | thnx 4 d comment on the thread |
| 14:22.24 | NetRipper | i mean |
| 14:22.29 | NetRipper | np |
| 14:22.35 | NetRipper | that's basically what im doin |
| 14:22.35 | NetRipper | :P |
| 14:22.41 | NetRipper | debugging |
| 14:22.46 | tids2k | u had any success with lcd panel :) |
| 14:22.55 | AstanHellbring | morning NetRipper |
| 14:22.55 | NetRipper | i got passed the zImage decompression croutine |
| 14:22.56 | NetRipper | (omg gprs sucks) |
| 14:23.01 | AstanHellbring | how goes your hd2 progress? |
| 14:23.11 | NetRipper | read man read :P |
| 14:23.19 | tids2k | ha ha |
| 14:23.36 | NetRipper | just 10 lines up astan :p |
| 14:23.40 | tids2k | i thonk we only 2 have leo |
| 14:23.43 | AstanHellbring | not much change eh? |
| 14:23.44 | tids2k | lol |
| 14:23.53 | AstanHellbring | I will have snapdragon in a few days |
| 14:23.54 | NetRipper | im still stuck in the boot process |
| 14:23.57 | tids2k | no change eh ;) |
| 14:23.59 | AstanHellbring | (hopefully) |
| 14:24.03 | NetRipper | not even getting to the main |
| 14:24.09 | AstanHellbring | assuming ATT pulls head out of ass |
| 14:24.11 | NetRipper | hangs in asm code somewhere |
| 14:24.37 | tids2k | gwt it checked by cr2 |
| 14:24.37 | NetRipper | any o fyou have experience with early virtual memory mapping in linux? |
| 14:24.56 | NetRipper | like, when the mmu is turned on, how can i still access my physical addresses? |
| 14:25.04 | NetRipper | aret hey at an offset until the full iomap has been performed? |
| 14:25.13 | NetRipper | or what/ :) |
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| 14:25.29 | NetRipper | tids2k, i wish i could :) |
| 14:25.30 | NetRipper | ~seen cr2 |
| 14:25.33 | apt | cr2 <n=cr2@82.203.205.227> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 6d 14h 55m 55s ago, saying: 'different'. |
| 14:25.39 | NetRipper | ^^ |
| 14:25.39 | NetRipper | :) |
| 14:26.03 | NetRipper | im basically going through all linux kernel code in the bootup now |
| 14:27.01 | NetRipper | but im not sure if my flashlight test is still functional once mmu is up |
| 14:28.07 | NetRipper | anyway i'll be testing a bit more tonight again |
| 14:28.18 | NetRipper | any info is welcome |
| 14:28.18 | NetRipper | :) |
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| 14:30.21 | NetRipper | tids2k, AstanHellbring, you both went quiet... give me some inspiration! :) |
| 14:30.29 | AstanHellbring | lol |
| 14:30.55 | AstanHellbring | hmm |
| 14:31.16 | AstanHellbring | so how far do you get with this? |
| 14:31.24 | NetRipper | im at work now so i cant work at it now anyway, but will be home in like 6 hours |
| 14:31.34 | NetRipper | ok what i got is this |
| 14:31.40 | tids2k | man i thought u were my inspiration ;) |
| 14:32.02 | NetRipper | i know it enters th elinux kernel, so im good with memory and stuff |
| 14:32.18 | NetRipper | i added flashlight test code to th elinux kernel, before the mmu was enabled |
| 14:32.23 | NetRipper | but that's only like 10 lines of asm |
| 14:32.26 | NetRipper | before mmu is enabled |
| 14:32.46 | tids2k | so does the test work |
| 14:32.52 | AstanHellbring | so remind me whats the mmu? |
| 14:32.59 | tids2k | i mean ur code is it workin |
| 14:33.01 | NetRipper | memory mapping unit |
| 14:33.39 | tids2k | NetRipper |
| 14:33.58 | NetRipper | tids2k, once haret i sdone, it jumps to the linux kernel, i've verified that these instructions are actually called... however, when the mmu is enabled, my flashlight asm doesn't work anymore |
| 14:34.09 | NetRipper | also |
| 14:34.16 | AstanHellbring | interesting |
| 14:34.18 | NetRipper | the zImage de compression didn't work |
| 14:34.34 | NetRipper | the armv7 cache flush asm code is invalid in the linux kernel |
| 14:34.36 | NetRipper | it doesn't work for snapdragon |
| 14:35.01 | NetRipper | i dont know why |
| 14:35.10 | NetRipper | it should be backard compatible |
| 14:35.12 | NetRipper | but idsnt |
| 14:35.14 | NetRipper | -d |
| 14:36.12 | tids2k | the arm7 is not comaptible with arm11 branches |
| 14:36.25 | NetRipper | er |
| 14:36.40 | NetRipper | the snapdragon has a cortex-a8 |
| 14:36.44 | NetRipper | which is armv7 |
| 14:36.50 | NetRipper | which we still call the arm11 |
| 14:37.04 | NetRipper | dunno why exactly but thats how its named in the kernel |
| 14:37.06 | NetRipper | the radio is arm9 |
| 14:37.13 | tids2k | arm-cortex a8>arm9 |
| 14:37.18 | NetRipper | but that differs from armv9 which doesnt exist yet) |
| 14:37.19 | tids2k | yepp |
| 14:37.44 | tids2k | beta chips are available in china :;) |
| 14:37.55 | NetRipper | cortex a8 = the application core afaik, which is the arm11 |
| 14:38.00 | NetRipper | but the instruction set is armv7 |
| 14:38.05 | tids2k | for arm9 |
| 14:38.22 | NetRipper | you dont make sence |
| 14:38.29 | NetRipper | elaborate? :) |
| 14:38.34 | tids2k | did u show the code to phh or cr2 |
| 14:38.50 | tids2k | they might help |
| 14:38.54 | NetRipper | which code |
| 14:39.09 | tids2k | your code and the asm one |
| 14:39.43 | tids2k | my gf said this phone is too big for my hands |
| 14:40.04 | NetRipper | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=LeoFlashlightTest |
| 14:40.54 | NetRipper | ignore the last piece of asm about MMU, it's not a serious problem |
| 14:41.06 | MatBee_ | lol |
| 14:41.10 | MatBee_ | too big |
| 14:41.26 | NetRipper | the linux cod where the mmu cache is flashed, is at arch/arm/boot/compressed/head.S |
| 14:41.32 | NetRipper | flushed* |
| 14:43.57 | tids2k | NetRipper is the battery drain solved on blac with android |
| 14:44.08 | NetRipper | i wouldnt know |
| 14:44.14 | NetRipper | im not working on that, nor keeping an eye on it ;) |
| 14:44.42 | NetRipper | and i sold my raphael |
| 14:45.02 | tids2k | for how much |
| 14:45.11 | NetRipper | 150 eur |
| 14:45.27 | tids2k | i got a new nokia n97 for 580AUD |
| 14:45.38 | NetRipper | which is 10 cents? |
| 14:45.42 | MatBee_ | LOL |
| 14:45.57 | AstanHellbring | tids2k whose your carrier? |
| 14:46.08 | NetRipper | ~google 580 aud in euros |
| 14:46.19 | NetRipper | if that works |
| 14:46.29 | MatBee_ | aud in EUR |
| 14:46.32 | MatBee_ | would be best |
| 14:46.41 | tids2k | 359 euro |
| 14:46.43 | NetRipper | 580 Australian dollars = 359.920016 Euros |
| 14:46.48 | tids2k | lol |
| 14:46.57 | tids2k | im with optus |
| 14:47.03 | MatBee_ | AstanHellbring: |
| 14:47.14 | MatBee_ | AstanHellbring: is 100k/yr a lot for australia? |
| 14:47.25 | MatBee_ | fuck |
| 14:47.26 | AstanHellbring | huh MatBee_? |
| 14:47.29 | MatBee_ | tids2k: ... |
| 14:47.41 | NetRipper | aud and usd is pretty similar |
| 14:47.47 | AstanHellbring | tids2k damn not telstra huh |
| 14:47.48 | NetRipper | i thought aud was worthless |
| 14:47.48 | NetRipper | :P |
| 14:47.56 | NetRipper | (like halft) |
| 14:48.00 | NetRipper | half* |
| 14:48.07 | MatBee_ | aud and cad are much the same |
| 14:48.17 | MatBee_ | usd is worth just slightly more |
| 14:48.39 | NetRipper | 1 U.S. dollar = 1.05029991 Canadian dollars |
| 14:48.45 | NetRipper | usd and cad are similar |
| 14:48.54 | NetRipper | aud is 0.9 dollar |
| 14:49.25 | tids2k | lol |
| 14:49.32 | tids2k | is gettin better |
| 14:49.56 | MatBee_ | tids2k: is 100k/yr a lot for australia? sydney area? |
| 14:50.10 | tids2k | AstanHellbring u mean 100k aud or usd |
| 14:50.12 | MatBee_ | I'm not sure about cost of living, but I'm thinking of going over the next 3 years |
| 14:50.19 | MatBee_ | 100kAUD |
| 14:50.43 | AstanHellbring | well MatBee_ sounds like thats the equivelant of 90k USD |
| 14:50.50 | tids2k | enough |
| 14:50.53 | MatBee_ | AstanHellbring: yeah but what are the costs of living, etc |
| 14:51.15 | tids2k | i earn less than 5k a month ;) |
| 14:51.36 | tids2k | living costs depends |
| 14:51.40 | MatBee_ | yeah |
| 14:51.48 | MatBee_ | sydney will be a bit more expensive |
| 14:51.48 | tids2k | how u want to live |
| 14:52.05 | MatBee_ | well, an Audi R8 for starts |
| 14:52.09 | tids2k | like a party animal or like a saint |
| 14:52.16 | tids2k | hehehe |
| 14:52.22 | NetRipper | saint |
| 14:52.29 | MatBee_ | middle |
| 14:52.33 | MatBee_ | lol |
| 14:52.41 | tids2k | im getting a4 or toyota corolla in feb |
| 14:52.51 | NetRipper | once you're a saint you can always choose what ot waste your money on |
| 14:53.04 | NetRipper | (and i just love that movie) |
| 14:54.16 | tids2k | lol |
| 14:54.20 | tids2k | NetRipper lol |
| 14:56.41 | tids2k | netripper rds on leo will work soo. |
| 14:56.44 | tids2k | soon |
| 15:02.12 | NetRipper | who's working on it? |
| 15:02.17 | NetRipper | flywhc? |
| 15:02.37 | AstanHellbring | rds? |
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| 15:09.40 | tids2k | yes |
| 15:09.56 | tids2k | he needs some files from the leo |
| 15:10.01 | NetRipper | ah |
| 15:10.09 | NetRipper | the leo kitchen is available |
| 15:10.09 | tids2k | i will post them tomorrow |
| 15:10.13 | NetRipper | so he can have all files he needs |
| 15:10.32 | NetRipper | is flywhc a he or she? |
| 15:10.36 | NetRipper | :P |
| 15:10.47 | tids2k | heshe ;) |
| 15:11.24 | tids2k | netripper what is ur qualifications |
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| 15:14.55 | NetRipper | diploma? |
| 15:15.15 | NetRipper | bachelor of ict |
| 15:15.42 | NetRipper | i don't know international terms actually |
| 15:18.30 | tids2k | what is ict |
| 15:18.46 | NetRipper | IT |
| 15:18.50 | NetRipper | information and communication technologies |
| 15:19.00 | tids2k | nice |
| 15:19.41 | tids2k | im ann accountant by profession |
| 15:20.03 | NetRipper | and basically im just a programmer ;) .net /java / php/ c |
| 15:20.08 | NetRipper | ah |
| 15:20.14 | NetRipper | you do this for a hobby then |
| 15:20.25 | tids2k | ya |
| 15:20.50 | NetRipper | for me it all depends on the project at work, what my hobby will be ;) |
| 15:20.53 | tids2k | i always wanted ti be a computer engineer |
| 15:21.06 | NetRipper | if im doing a lot of c at work, im not going to bothrer working with the linux kernel at home |
| 15:21.10 | NetRipper | :P |
| 15:21.14 | tids2k | lol |
| 15:21.17 | MatBee_ | NetRipper: hense my position |
| 15:21.25 | MatBee_ | im working on Linux and C++ at work |
| 15:21.28 | NetRipper | which is MatBee_ ? |
| 15:21.29 | NetRipper | ah |
| 15:21.46 | NetRipper | i'd love microsoft in times like those |
| 15:21.55 | NetRipper | or just gaming. |
| 15:21.57 | MatBee_ | yeah |
| 15:22.01 | tids2k | ok |
| 15:22.04 | MatBee_ | i, in reality, hate my computer when iget home |
| 15:22.12 | NetRipper | lol |
| 15:22.13 | tids2k | lol |
| 15:22.32 | NetRipper | that's the toll of working in IT |
| 15:22.36 | NetRipper | it's sad |
| 15:22.39 | NetRipper | we have this hard time |
| 15:22.40 | NetRipper | :P |
| 15:22.41 | MatBee_ | yeah |
| 15:24.27 | NetRipper | anyway im doing .net and a lot of SQL at work now |
| 15:24.33 | NetRipper | which makes my head spin |
| 15:24.34 | NetRipper | the sql |
| 15:24.43 | NetRipper | so im glad when i get home and can do some real work |
| 15:24.45 | NetRipper | :p |
| 15:25.23 | MatBee_ | yeah |
| 15:25.28 | MatBee_ | well im actually doing all that too |
| 15:25.33 | MatBee_ | trying to get our app to run under wine |
| 15:25.51 | NetRipper | ah |
| 15:25.57 | NetRipper | so what's stopping it |
| 15:26.04 | NetRipper | most apps work on wine ootb |
| 15:26.05 | MatBee_ | so far, windows authentication |
| 15:26.12 | NetRipper | ohhh awesome |
| 15:26.19 | NetRipper | good luck with that |
| 15:26.26 | MatBee_ | yeah, using windows auth with MSSQL |
| 15:26.33 | MatBee_ | so im just trying to strip it, make it login/pass |
| 15:26.42 | NetRipper | yea |
| 15:33.16 | tids2k | good night everyone |
| 15:33.45 | tids2k | NetRipper i hope u will fix the boot errors today |
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| 15:56.57 | phh | [01:48:44] <tmzt> dummy is diasbaled <------ you meant dummy mddi ? if so, it's really weird |
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| 16:51.13 | phh | [ 86.804626] ARM9 has CRASHED |
| 16:51.18 | phh | I always love that |
| 16:53.02 | MatBee_ | lol |
| 16:53.22 | MatBee_ | anyone here know how to close connections on mssqlserver :P |
| 16:54.08 | phh | killall -9 |
| 16:54.49 | MatBee_ | bah |
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| 17:10.04 | AstainHellbring | MatBee_ use the enterprise manager |
| 17:10.24 | MatBee_ | ahhh |
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| 17:41.55 | MatBee_ | this program is messed up. This tab only works 1/10th of the time |
| 17:41.58 | MatBee_ | :P |
| 17:42.04 | MatBee_ | for no apparent reason |
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| 18:35.40 | leviathan | GNUtoo: hi |
| 18:36.07 | leviathan | I'm trying to port the whole samsung board specification to 2.6.29 |
| 18:36.10 | leviathan | hard work... |
| 18:36.23 | GNUtoo | leviathan, ok |
| 18:36.31 | GNUtoo | hi |
| 18:36.35 | leviathan | GNUtoo: hi |
| 18:36.37 | leviathan | :) |
| 18:36.58 | leviathan | so I found out, that the rpc and the adsp do not seem to harmonate |
| 18:37.12 | leviathan | so I'm trying to move all the msm stuff from 27 to 29 |
| 18:37.27 | leviathan | because the samsung drivers seem to be cleaner at all |
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| 19:19.42 | tmzt | phh: yeah, but somebody just if 0'd all the init instead |
| 19:20.16 | phh | tmzt: so it's dummy client made the dirty way ? |
| 19:21.01 | tmzt | yes |
| 19:21.03 | tmzt | hah |
| 19:21.19 | tmzt | but it's needed because the registers are still used |
| 19:21.34 | tmzt | just the init, power down and all that removed |
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| 19:21.46 | tmzt | and hey, it boots to msmfb |
| 19:21.50 | tmzt | so I'm happy |
| 19:21.57 | tmzt | we can put the init back slowly |
| 19:26.12 | phh | ~touchscreen-xfbdev |
| 19:26.15 | phh | not that one |
| 19:26.17 | phh | apt_: list |
| 19:26.27 | phh | apt_: you're dead ? :( |
| 19:30.25 | tmzt | ~tslib-xfbdev |
| 19:30.26 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, tslib-xfbdev is TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/input/eventX ts_calibrate ; Xfbdev -mouse tslib,,device=/dev/input/eventX -keybd keybd,,device=/dev/input/eventX |
| 19:30.44 | tmzt | beats typing that for the fiftieth time |
| 19:30.58 | phh | :) |
| 19:31.08 | phh | I have to put that in the init of the ubuntu mobile |
| 19:31.27 | tmzt | why? |
| 19:31.41 | tmzt | only if no /etc/pointercal ? |
| 19:31.58 | tmzt | all this work, you should do it with mer :) |
| 19:32.13 | tmzt | same base but all ready has scripts for this |
| 19:36.48 | phh | oh well I have some time to "waste" today, how to build it ? :) |
| 19:41.05 | phh | you have your own branch somewhere or standard branch should work without too many fixes ? |
| 19:43.30 | tmzt | what have you done on ubu mobile so far? |
| 19:43.47 | tmzt | start with arm generic 0.17x |
| 19:44.08 | tmzt | no, I worked on smartq5 based 0.16 |
| 19:44.24 | tmzt | it was easier for a couple reasons but those should be fixed |
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| 19:58.27 | phh | 415MB ... I'll have some problems to put that somewhere on my phone |
| 19:58.27 | NetRipper | memory card |
| 19:58.27 | NetRipper | :p |
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| 19:58.28 | phh | buy me a raph :p |
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| 19:58.28 | NetRipper | get a job |
| 19:58.28 | NetRipper | :P |
| 19:58.29 | NetRipper | i just sold mine :P |
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| 20:12.29 | YellowGT0|73in | Hi |
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| 20:32.22 | parmaster | interesting, so samsung never rebranded and htc phone |
| 20:32.30 | parmaster | i thought they had, at least once |
| 20:33.07 | MatBee_ | palm did ;P |
| 20:33.13 | MatBee_ | before their WM exit |
| 20:34.22 | tmzt | aren't some Palm OS palms HTC? |
| 20:34.27 | tmzt | not sure |
| 20:34.37 | tmzt | and they still have Treo Pro |
| 20:34.50 | MatBee_ | yeah thats htc |
| 20:35.07 | phh | tmzt: grr, I *really* need to boot through NFS, file exchange is way too slow |
| 20:35.27 | tmzt | extract to sd |
| 20:35.37 | tmzt | with card reader |
| 20:35.47 | phh | sure ... with internal storage :p |
| 20:35.52 | tmzt | ah |
| 20:35.55 | tmzt | right |
| 20:36.17 | tmzt | I forget you have diamond |
| 20:36.56 | phh | tmzt: mer has onscreen keyboard ? |
| 20:37.50 | tmzt | it does but in some environments |
| 20:38.01 | tmzt | you still in the channel? |
| 20:38.05 | tmzt | I would ask there |
| 20:38.36 | parmaster | hi tmzt |
| 20:38.44 | parmaster | i see you're still fighting the good fight ;) |
| 20:38.48 | phh | hu, strange i left |
| 20:48.46 | YellowGT0|73in | So is there anywhere I can learn about porting android or is so new there no real documentation? |
| 20:49.50 | tmzt | to? |
| 20:50.08 | tmzt | par, ha yeah and now on tp2 |
| 20:50.17 | YellowGT0|73in | I was kinda intrested in seeing how someone would go about porting Android |
| 20:50.19 | tmzt | encouraged to have framebiffer working |
| 20:50.24 | tmzt | to? |
| 20:50.32 | YellowGT0|73in | Tp2 |
| 20:51.31 | YellowGT0|73in | Everyone has to learn somewhere right heh |
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| 20:52.51 | AstainHellbring | sup YellowGT0|73in |
| 20:52.51 | phh | first get the kernel working, get an android release from a board which is similar |
| 20:52.52 | phh | and fix what doesn't work. |
| 20:52.59 | tmzt | which tp2? |
| 20:53.00 | tmzt | uh |
| 20:53.00 | Thetime | Sup |
| 20:53.03 | Thetime | Wow |
| 20:53.05 | Thetime | Everyones in this room |
| 20:53.06 | Thetime | LoL |
| 20:53.10 | Thetime | I have a Tilt2 |
| 20:53.15 | Thetime | Damnm it |
| 20:53.19 | tmzt | rhod? |
| 20:53.22 | Thetime | Why does my name keep getting switch |
| 20:53.24 | Thetime | Yeah |
| 20:53.26 | Thetime | Rhod |
| 20:53.45 | YellowGT0|73in | There we go |
| 20:56.58 | tmzt | there's two essential models, gsm and cdma/gsm |
| 20:56.58 | tmzt | that's the gsm one right? |
| 20:56.59 | YellowGT0|73in | GSM |
| 20:56.59 | MatBee_ | nope |
| 20:56.59 | MatBee_ | nobody is here |
| 20:56.59 | YellowGT0|73in | ATTs GSM model |
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| 20:56.59 | tmzt | are you GTO? |
| 20:56.59 | YellowGT0|73in | Yeag |
| 20:56.59 | YellowGT0|73in | Yeah |
| 20:57.00 | YellowGT0|73in | Thetime is just some weird name it switchs to sometimes |
| 20:57.00 | YellowGT0|73in | No idea |
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| 20:59.43 | MatBee_ | welcome |
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| 21:14.28 | tmzt | leviathan: gnu: |
| 21:15.21 | GNUtoo | tmzt, I am |
| 21:15.46 | tmzt | YellowGTO: anyway, linux kernel support is first |
| 21:15.55 | tmzt | adnroid should work at that point |
| 21:16.17 | tmzt | but sound, calls, wifi, bluetooth, and possibily 3d will be missing |
| 21:16.18 | leviathan | hmm |
| 21:16.41 | leviathan | 2.6.32 soon should work |
| 21:16.56 | leviathan | but only with openmoko, debian, etc. |
| 21:17.00 | tmzt | yeah, from google? or Pavel? |
| 21:17.02 | leviathan | not with android >_< |
| 21:17.22 | leviathan | http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/next/linux-next.git;a=tree;f=arch/arm/mach-msm;h=64433675f8e537590138e1bd6a8b9a31780f0193;hb=bf923ab0c44c38cfee9d9e4c106d3fd272ba9e5a |
| 21:17.23 | tmzt | anymore lkml threads? |
| 21:17.41 | leviathan | tmzt: official linux-next |
| 21:18.11 | leviathan | seems to compile |
| 21:18.17 | leviathan | lets see, if it boots |
| 21:18.22 | YellowGTO | Anyone have any information on htc Rohdium and android? |
| 21:18.22 | leviathan | f... |
| 21:18.26 | leviathan | doesnt compile |
| 21:18.43 | tmzt | missing header |
| 21:18.54 | tmzt | and one is in the worng place |
| 21:19.08 | tmzt | should be in include/linux |
| 21:19.12 | tmzt | msmsdcc I think |
| 21:21.44 | YellowGTO | tmzt TP2 doesn't even support linux kernel? |
| 21:26.41 | YellowGTO | Would learning C# for trying to help port Linux and/or android help at all? |
| 21:27.09 | tmzt | no |
| 21:27.18 | tmzt | if anything it would retard the effort |
| 21:27.21 | YellowGTO | What language? |
| 21:27.21 | tmzt | learn c |
| 21:27.34 | YellowGTO | Are they similar? |
| 21:27.36 | tmzt | leviathan: let's get htcfb on there |
| 21:27.47 | tmzt | in syntax, but don't start with c# |
| 21:28.02 | tmzt | you need to be able to get low level enough |
| 21:28.14 | YellowGTO | So just C |
| 21:28.19 | leviathan | YellowGTO: yes |
| 21:28.20 | tmzt | yes |
| 21:28.31 | YellowGTO | Would would I use for a compiler? |
| 21:28.33 | leviathan | and learn about the target architecture |
| 21:28.37 | leviathan | what hardware, adresses |
| 21:28.42 | YellowGTO | Visual studio work? |
| 21:28.47 | tmzt | no |
| 21:28.50 | leviathan | dito |
| 21:28.50 | YellowGTO | LoL |
| 21:28.53 | leviathan | :) |
| 21:29.01 | tmzt | leviathan: let's get htcfb on there |
| 21:29.05 | YellowGTO | Flipping my world upside down |
| 21:29.13 | tmzt | they left out mddi in the new board |
| 21:29.14 | leviathan | YellowGTO: take gcc, a linux, and kdevelop ;) |
| 21:29.34 | tmzt | but that's ok |
| 21:29.35 | leviathan | tmzt: yes lets do it |
| 21:29.35 | tmzt | kdevelop for editing only |
| 21:29.37 | phh | leviathan: you use kdevelop to develop in the kernel ? |
| 21:29.37 | tmzt | I don't have dream |
| 21:29.39 | YellowGTO | So I should install linux again for this |
| 21:29.41 | leviathan | hmm |
| 21:29.43 | leviathan | Ok |
| 21:29.45 | tmzt | I can help you with the fixup though |
| 21:29.56 | leviathan | will do it then :) |
| 21:30.00 | tmzt | YellowGTO: get very familar with linux command line |
| 21:30.02 | leviathan | ok |
| 21:30.07 | YellowGTO | I used linux a bit |
| 21:30.14 | leviathan | wow |
| 21:30.19 | tmzt | learn some psoix |
| 21:30.29 | tmzt | leviathan: you on my gito ~tmzt? |
| 21:30.30 | leviathan | posix |
| 21:30.35 | tmzt | start a next there |
| 21:30.47 | leviathan | hmm, ok |
| 21:31.01 | tmzt | read the first part of 'Art of Unix Programming' |
| 21:31.10 | leviathan | tmzt: first I'll make my changes and get a booting version |
| 21:31.14 | leviathan | then I'll upload |
| 21:31.23 | tmzt | fair |
| 21:31.34 | YellowGTO | I should start with the Art of Unix programming? |
| 21:31.52 | tmzt | don't import mach-msm |
| 21:31.55 | tmzt | just htcfb |
| 21:32.02 | tmzt | and fix the headers to use staging |
| 21:32.21 | tmzt | patch the linux sd header with the asm stuff it complains about |
| 21:32.25 | tmzt | much easuer |
| 21:32.33 | tmzt | check my gito log for details |
| 21:32.46 | tmzt | YellowGTO: it explains the philospohy |
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| 21:33.45 | phh | tmzt: may I say that unix's philosophy is really far with android ? :p |
| 21:33.45 | YellowGTO | Aight i'll install Ubuntu and start reading that book |
| 21:33.45 | tmzt | leviathan: if you can get this booting on dream I can try to figure out how NetRipper, cr2 etc. fixed the clocks |
| 21:33.45 | tmzt | and other stuff for ce |
| 21:33.53 | leviathan | tmzt: ok |
| 21:33.57 | tmzt | phh: but it's crucial to understanding the kernel |
| 21:34.25 | tmzt | YellowGTO: ubuntu is fine |
| 21:34.34 | leviathan | tmzt: its sufficient |
| 21:34.38 | leviathan | yes |
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| 21:35.15 | leviathan | I've got gentoo, and debian, and dont like ubuntu, but for n00bs, its sufficient xD |
| 21:35.26 | tmzt | I use ubuntu :) |
| 21:35.31 | leviathan | oops |
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| 21:35.38 | tmzt | it's fine with codesourcry compiler |
| 21:35.41 | leviathan | freezed after an oops |
| 21:35.45 | tmzt | I just like debian |
| 21:36.12 | leviathan | doesnt like the kernel freezes he sometimes gets with ubuntu |
| 21:36.21 | tmzt | what gpu? |
| 21:36.30 | leviathan | nvidia+atheros-chip |
| 21:36.36 | leviathan | leads to kernelfreeze |
| 21:36.39 | leviathan | every 10min |
| 21:36.41 | tmzt | hmm |
| 21:36.43 | tmzt | ah |
| 21:36.45 | tmzt | wow |
| 21:36.46 | leviathan | its totaly crap |
| 21:36.51 | tmzt | use upstream kernel |
| 21:36.55 | leviathan | additionaly I love tuning |
| 21:36.56 | leviathan | ^^ |
| 21:37.09 | leviathan | I tuned glibc and so on |
| 21:37.13 | tmzt | they switched back to madiwifi I think |
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| 21:37.19 | leviathan | and everything is alway bleeding edge |
| 21:37.27 | leviathan | oh |
| 21:37.28 | leviathan | okee |
| 21:37.36 | leviathan | I love gentoo xD |
| 21:37.44 | tmzt | yeah, I'm thinking of doing that new x thing |
| 21:38.00 | tmzt | builds from git every day or whatever |
| 21:38.12 | tmzt | but keeps my core system in apt |
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| 21:40.00 | leviathan | hmm, ok |
| 21:40.46 | leviathan | I'm using debian sid on my notebook, and gentoo on the workstation, and OpenMoko on my smartphone |
| 21:41.01 | leviathan | only thing I need now is additionally a linux coffee machine |
| 21:41.02 | leviathan | ^^ |
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| 21:42.18 | YellowGTO | LoL tmzt |
| 21:42.19 | YellowGTO | Art of Unix programming |
| 21:42.27 | YellowGTO | You should read this book if you are an experienced Unix programmer who is often in the position of either educating novice programmers or debating partisans of other operating systems, and you find it hard to articulate the benefits of the Unix approach. |
| 21:42.38 | YellowGTO | I am not an experienced unix programer |
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| 21:44.15 | leviathan | YellowGTO: then its impossible for you to articulate it and not only hard :P |
| 21:44.19 | leviathan | ...sry |
| 21:44.33 | leviathan | just read it |
| 21:44.37 | leviathan | then ask questions |
| 21:44.41 | YellowGTO | Ok |
| 21:44.42 | leviathan | then we answer |
| 21:44.48 | leviathan | then you write code |
| 21:44.55 | leviathan | then we review it |
| 21:45.03 | YellowGTO | Well I need to wait for ubuntu to finish downloading |
| 21:45.05 | leviathan | then we give patches, or reject it at all |
| 21:45.14 | leviathan | then you can correct the errors |
| 21:45.18 | leviathan | the you give it again |
| 21:45.23 | leviathan | <-loop on this point |
| 21:45.42 | leviathan | whil(!acceptable) {review();} |
| 21:45.55 | leviathan | while(!acceptable) {review();} |
| 21:45.57 | leviathan | sry |
| 21:46.08 | leviathan | smoking |
| 21:46.10 | leviathan | brb |
| 21:46.33 | phh | leviathan: he can do his own branch if he wants to |
| 21:47.29 | phh | MrPippy: I think my mistake with gpu0 pmem miss is a good thing :d |
| 21:47.52 | phh | I think it means that the whole GPU memory can be wherever you want, gpu gpu0 is in SMI and gpu1 in EBI |
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| 21:48.03 | phh | so we might free 7MB from RAM, and have quicker GPU :D |
| 21:48.13 | bsod666 | hows the blackstone dev going? |
| 21:48.56 | MrPippy | so...gpu0 just allocates its own memory somewhere, doesn't have to be fixed? |
| 21:49.18 | phh | MrPippy: no |
| 21:49.21 | phh | gpu0 just doesn't exist |
| 21:49.29 | phh | whenever android asks for gpu0 memory, there is just nothing |
| 21:49.41 | phh | it allocates all its memory in gpu1 |
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| 21:50.04 | phh | I haven't tried with only SMI yet, but I hope it works the same |
| 21:50.27 | bsod666 | can i ask why it takes so long to release a rom for blackstone that works? I looked at the htc hero specs and they look pretty much identical bar the screen |
| 21:50.30 | phh | MatBee: I failed again at calculating memory layout for treo .... |
| 21:54.04 | phh | bsod666: not the same modem software |
| 21:54.04 | phh | and nobody cares about doing a rom |
| 21:54.05 | phh | well, not exactly |
| 21:54.05 | phh | but very little work is done |
| 21:54.05 | bsod666 | but it runs so slowly? |
| 21:54.05 | bsod666 | they have like virtually the same cpu |
| 21:54.05 | phh | slowly ... ? |
| 21:54.15 | bsod666 | granted the blackstone runs 480x800 |
| 21:54.15 | bsod666 | as opposed to 320x480 |
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| 21:55.22 | MrPippy | ok interesting, so something else can go in smi? |
| 21:55.22 | pjottrr | phh, about testing, would you post a mesage on the bugtracker on all messages you need and where to find them when having bugs on various parts ? |
| 21:55.22 | phh | if you mean that on heavy MMC load it is almost unusable, well that's true |
| 21:55.22 | phh | but it's the same for windows mobile so ... |
| 21:55.22 | bsod666 | it just takes ages to boot |
| 21:55.26 | bsod666 | im downloading the latest release of the blackstone rom now |
| 21:55.26 | phh | bsod666: you reboot your phone hourly ... ? |
| 21:55.26 | phh | pjottrr: groumpf... ok |
| 21:55.27 | pjottrr | lol |
| 21:55.27 | bsod666 | well with windows |
| 21:55.27 | bsod666 | mobile maybe every couple of hours under intense use it crashes |
| 21:55.27 | phh | oh... so it's maybe not linux's fault |
| 21:55.27 | phh | (under really heavy MMC load, linux freezes...) |
| 21:55.28 | leviathan | re |
| 21:55.28 | bsod666 | surely haret limits android rom performance? |
| 21:55.30 | bsod666 | being compressed and what now |
| 21:55.30 | phh | no |
| 21:55.30 | phh | not at all |
| 21:55.31 | bsod666 | no? |
| 21:55.32 | bsod666 | oh just wondering why the phone itself seemed sluggish under android |
| 21:55.32 | phh | the only performance problem which could possibly arise is the speed of inner NAND VS MMC |
| 21:55.32 | pjottrr | phh; nice work btw this latest build, works very nice on blackstone, wifi problem i mentioned earluer is solved also |
| 21:55.32 | bsod666 | i mean a 528mhz processor sounds more than fast enough for a small os |
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| 21:55.33 | phh | bsod666: haha. |
| 21:55.33 | phh | 528MHz means nothing :p |
| 21:55.33 | phh | well it means the clock is set to 528MHz |
| 21:55.33 | phh | but that's it |
| 21:55.34 | bsod666 | maybe qualcomm != to pentium 3 528mhz? |
| 21:55.44 | Captnoord | and its arm not x86 |
| 21:55.44 | phh | from far. |
| 21:55.45 | phh | not speaking about true architectural changes |
| 21:55.47 | bsod666 | so qualcomm chips do way less caclulations per clock |
| 21:55.48 | bsod666 | ? |
| 21:55.51 | Captnoord | thats arm vs risc |
| 21:55.54 | phh | pentium3 has > 256kB of cache |
| 21:55.59 | phh | qualcomm has 64kB. |
| 21:56.02 | phh | (or 32 ?) |
| 21:56.16 | phh | bsod666: oh i don't know for the chip |
| 21:56.20 | phh | but for the ARM11 processor yes. |
| 21:56.29 | phh | (qualcomm chips runs several processors) |
| 21:56.54 | bsod666 | hmm thats no good! gonna have to swap out my 7 series chip for a pentium 3! |
| 21:57.02 | bsod666 | if it can be done |
| 21:57.06 | phh | ok. |
| 21:57.07 | bsod666 | it would be htc magic! |
| 21:57.15 | bsod666 | lol |
| 21:57.18 | phh | the battery life won't be exactly the same. |
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| 21:57.32 | bsod666 | will it even boot without a proper desktop psu? |
| 21:57.44 | bsod666 | lol forget it im crazy |
| 21:57.54 | phh | a bit. |
| 21:58.21 | phh | tmzt: mer's copy to my mmc is still not ended :p |
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| 21:58.36 | bsod666 | yeah if anyone here works on the blackstone rom i do a bit of programming so would be prepared to help out in order to push this project forward but i dont know anything about rom cooking |
| 21:58.52 | bsod666 | i can flash my phone thats abou it lol |
| 21:59.06 | bsod666 | and i use linux from time to time |
| 21:59.15 | phh | you haven't even panel support .... |
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| 22:00.31 | leviathan | ok, thats strange |
| 22:00.35 | leviathan | built trough |
| 22:00.43 | leviathan | after some minimal changes |
| 22:00.50 | bsod666 | maybe someone should try running make menuconfig on the blackstone remove all the irrelevant modules? |
| 22:00.52 | leviathan | imported msmfb from linux-to-go |
| 22:00.53 | bsod666 | lol |
| 22:00.59 | leviathan | no changes were needed |
| 22:01.08 | phh | bsod666: such as ... ? |
| 22:01.20 | leviathan | ok |
| 22:01.23 | leviathan | lets boot |
| 22:01.24 | leviathan | ^^ |
| 22:01.42 | MrPippy | hmm android does open pmem_gpu0 (and gpu1 and hw3d) but i'm not sure what happens when it fails |
| 22:01.55 | bsod666 | ive done it with gentoo...just go through removing modules that seem irrelvant and test out different configurations |
| 22:01.59 | bsod666 | theres got to be some in there |
| 22:02.16 | phh | MrPippy: well with my kernel it happens (since i forgot to add it), it says that smi memory available is 0MB and that's it |
| 22:02.37 | MrPippy | and hw3d works? |
| 22:02.40 | phh | yes |
| 22:02.58 | phh | so I'll do the opposite, everything in SMI |
| 22:03.08 | bsod666 | can anyone tell me why windows mobile is so shocking as well? |
| 22:03.17 | leviathan | I'd like to have a real opensource driver for Xorg |
| 22:03.21 | bsod666 | do microsoft not care about losing market share? |
| 22:03.41 | leviathan | so, tha I can use every function of the graphics-chip |
| 22:03.43 | leviathan | in X |
| 22:03.54 | leviathan | that will be the next |
| 22:04.00 | phh | leviathan: the android's source code for 2D acceleration is free |
| 22:04.07 | leviathan | and 3d? |
| 22:04.13 | phh | no |
| 22:04.22 | phh | only a closed libgles.so |
| 22:04.26 | leviathan | -.- |
| 22:04.42 | leviathan | is there a possibility to get the datasheet for the graphics chip? |
| 22:04.43 | phh | good 2D would already be quite good |
| 22:04.45 | MrPippy | only the gsm diamonds that have 64MB SMI, diam500 is like raph: 32MB SMI and 2*128 EBI |
| 22:04.48 | phh | haha. |
| 22:04.52 | phh | leviathan: it's qualcomm :p |
| 22:04.58 | phh | MrPippy: ah. |
| 22:05.11 | phh | MrPippy: and my kernel crashes on your phones I guess ? |
| 22:05.25 | leviathan | phh: wondeful, then can get me a guy from qualcomm into the line, to get the datasheets? |
| 22:05.27 | leviathan | :) |
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| 22:06.55 | MrPippy | yeah with patches it boots, but doesn't run as well as a 2 month old ltg kernel |
| 22:07.16 | phh | MrPippy: you patched pmem.c ? |
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| 22:07.36 | phh | framebuffer is in SMI2 |
| 22:07.48 | phh | there is no way it boots at all if you don't have 64MB SMI ... |
| 22:07.55 | MrPippy | right |
| 22:08.14 | phh | (or my calculations are wrong, again.) |
| 22:08.33 | MrPippy | yeah i have it set up like raph was before the pmem.c change, it works |
| 22:09.01 | phh | reporting such bugs is useless I guess ... ? |
| 22:09.11 | bsod666 | does anyone know how the iphone cpu compares to the cpus found in our htc devices qualcomm 72xx?Just wondering if the software is lacking or hardware |
| 22:09.13 | phh | tmzt: mer's booting ! crossing fingers |
| 22:09.29 | phh | bsod666: about the same |
| 22:09.38 | MrPippy | unfortunately the cdma diamonds are too different to share a machtype, so we need another one |
| 22:09.58 | phh | MrPippy: like diam500 and diam800 ? |
| 22:10.47 | MrPippy | yeah diam400 and diam500, 400 has SD slot, 500 has internal storage |
| 22:10.54 | bsod666 | well its the software then, just hopes the ms gives us an operating system with the traits of windows 7 |
| 22:10.58 | MrPippy | there's probably lots of other differences, but i don't think anyones tested on diam400 |
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| 22:11.17 | phh | diam400 is cdma ... ? |
| 22:11.29 | phh | i thaught it was gsm |
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| 22:12.47 | MrPippy | yeah its cdma, sold by verizon |
| 22:12.51 | bsod666 | i know its offtopic but did anyone ever manage to get wm6.5 working smoothly on blackstone? |
| 22:12.52 | leviathan | tmzt: I managed to compile it, but it didnt show me a splash |
| 22:12.53 | leviathan | -.- |
| 22:13.08 | leviathan | GNUtoo: some ideas? |
| 22:13.10 | MrPippy | i don't think they sold many of them, users are pretty hard to find |
| 22:13.26 | GNUtoo | leviathan, I'll look 5s |
| 22:13.36 | leviathan | ok |
| 22:13.42 | leviathan | I'll compile again |
| 22:13.46 | leviathan | then you can have it |
| 22:13.53 | GNUtoo | leviathan, ok |
| 22:13.56 | leviathan | I'll mail it |
| 22:13.59 | GNUtoo | leviathan, so you rebased? |
| 22:14.21 | leviathan | Nope, I just made linux-next compile for htcdream |
| 22:14.27 | leviathan | theres already a board file |
| 22:14.39 | leviathan | but somehow it doesnt load the msmfb-driver or so |
| 22:14.58 | leviathan | I'll look |
| 22:15.28 | leviathan | next I will rebase also qdsp5 |
| 22:15.36 | leviathan | but first we need a really booting linux-next |
| 22:15.59 | leviathan | if we get a really booting linux-next |
| 22:16.18 | leviathan | we can move on to making a standartized sound driver |
| 22:16.23 | leviathan | which can make it into main |
| 22:19.51 | MrPippy | yeah diam400 has the 7500a (like raph500), and a microSD slot (I think the only diamond with it) |
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| 22:24.09 | GNUtoo | leviathan, ok |
| 22:24.17 | GNUtoo | linux-next means .33? |
| 22:24.24 | GNUtoo | or is it an old -next |
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| 22:26.12 | leviathan | nope |
| 22:26.13 | leviathan | wait |
| 22:26.26 | leviathan | VERSION = 2 |
| 22:26.26 | leviathan | PATCHLEVEL = 6 |
| 22:26.26 | leviathan | SUBLEVEL = 32 |
| 22:26.26 | leviathan | EXTRAVERSION = |
| 22:26.26 | leviathan | NAME = Man-Eating Seals of Antiquity |
| 22:26.40 | leviathan | but... |
| 22:26.49 | leviathan | I dont get any vt |
| 22:27.00 | leviathan | it boots without fbconsole |
| 22:27.01 | leviathan | -.- |
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| 22:27.14 | leviathan | should I send you the patch? |
| 22:27.32 | leviathan | GNUtoo: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/next/linux-next.git;a=summary |
| 22:27.40 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 22:27.40 | leviathan | just checkout and git am |
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| 22:27.46 | leviathan | comes |
| 22:33.21 | leviathan | GNUtoo: sent it |
| 22:33.34 | GNUtoo | ok thanks |
| 22:33.49 | leviathan | now linux-next builds for htcdream |
| 22:33.56 | leviathan | but it doesnt load the fbcon |
| 22:34.03 | leviathan | theres something broken, I guess |
| 22:34.34 | leviathan | perhaps I didnt import everything, which is needed for it |
| 22:34.40 | leviathan | okee, well, it builds |
| 22:34.43 | leviathan | at all... |
| 22:36.20 | leviathan | okee |
| 22:36.22 | leviathan | found it |
| 22:36.23 | leviathan | -.- |
| 22:36.32 | leviathan | I did really forget to import something essential |
| 22:36.38 | leviathan | is dump, I fear |
| 22:37.07 | leviathan | but it seems to be already there |
| 22:37.10 | leviathan | hmmm |
| 22:37.12 | leviathan | grml |
| 22:37.21 | leviathan | GNUtoo: take a look please... |
| 22:37.39 | GNUtoo | ok I'll try it |
| 22:37.51 | leviathan | it looks clean |
| 22:37.53 | leviathan | basically |
| 22:38.00 | leviathan | but it doesnt work in exchange -_- |
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| 22:38.21 | GNUtoo | not arrived yet |
| 22:38.51 | phh | grrr |
| 22:39.00 | phh | mer finds all my wifi access points |
| 22:39.01 | phh | but mine. |
| 22:39.09 | phh | oops |
| 22:39.14 | phh | it's not powered /o\ |
| 22:39.49 | GNUtoo | leviathan, exchange? |
| 22:40.27 | leviathan | in exchange... means we trade clean code for functionality >_< |
| 22:40.38 | leviathan | hmm |
| 22:40.47 | leviathan | not arrived yet? |
| 22:41.00 | GNUtoo | not yet |
| 22:41.05 | leviathan | hmm |
| 22:41.07 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 22:41.27 | leviathan | resent |
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| 22:41.47 | mblancom | hi all, |
| 22:41.55 | leviathan | mblancom: hi |
| 22:41.56 | mblancom | phh: please read http://pjottrr.no-ip.org:81/redmine/issues/show/22 |
| 22:42.30 | mblancom | phh: blac g-sensor related |
| 22:42.37 | phh | yes I know |
| 22:42.43 | phh | i just don't know the proper way to fix that |
| 22:43.31 | mblancom | ok |
| 22:44.52 | phh | tmzt: wifi connection's working :) |
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| 22:53.15 | bsod666 | when i try to boot the latest android i get fsck running and it says truncating file to 0 bytes and stops |
| 22:53.24 | bsod666 | for blackstone at least |
| 22:53.51 | bsod666 | does anyone know whats causing this? |
| 22:54.02 | phh | remove your data.img |
| 22:54.13 | bsod666 | data.img? |
| 22:54.23 | phh | data.img |
| 22:54.54 | bsod666 | any reason for this problem? |
| 22:55.25 | phh | removed the battery when buffer not flushed ? |
| 22:55.57 | bsod666 | i did remove my sdcard it did say something then jumped out and left my at a rather useless command prompt |
| 22:56.17 | bsod666 | without a keyboard i mean its a bit hard to use |
| 22:57.35 | leviathan | GNUtoo: did you get it now? |
| 22:58.05 | GNUtoo | oh no...my mail client was offline |
| 22:58.08 | GNUtoo | I don't know why |
| 22:58.14 | leviathan | oh, okee |
| 22:58.18 | GNUtoo | yes I got it |
| 22:58.23 | leviathan | well |
| 22:58.24 | GNUtoo | maybe network manager's fault |
| 22:58.30 | leviathan | mhmm |
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| 22:58.54 | leviathan | and? did you see something? |
| 22:59.07 | GNUtoo | yes I've got the mails |
| 22:59.16 | leviathan | im mean in the code ;-) |
| 22:59.18 | GNUtoo | unfortunately I have to go to sleep |
| 22:59.23 | leviathan | oh |
| 22:59.24 | bsod666 | is there any way to connect a keyboard to the htcs with just a touchscreen? |
| 22:59.24 | leviathan | ok |
| 22:59.26 | leviathan | np |
| 22:59.29 | GNUtoo | I'll try to look tomorrow |
| 22:59.32 | leviathan | ok |
| 22:59.41 | leviathan | I'll hack around a little bit more |
| 22:59.44 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 22:59.46 | leviathan | then I'll go to sleep too |
| 22:59.50 | leviathan | cu |
| 22:59.53 | leviathan | and gn8 |
| 23:00.27 | GNUtoo | ok thanks |
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| 23:07.44 | bsod666 | is there a best allocation unit size to format my microsd 16gb card with? |
| 23:07.55 | bsod666 | or |
| 23:08.01 | bsod666 | or doesnt it matter? |
| 23:09.18 | phh | 32kB blocks |
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| 23:14.41 | phh | tmzt: getting mer working was really easy after all. |
| 23:15.07 | phh | loves linux's power |
| 23:15.15 | phh | get a kernel, get everything. |
| 23:15.57 | phh | anyway, time to sleep |
| 23:16.49 | bsod666 | erm just tried to boot |
| 23:16.51 | bsod666 | and i get |
| 23:17.44 | bsod666 | the superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext filesystem |
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| 23:18.03 | bsod666 | last line i get cant access job control |
| 23:18.04 | phh | remove the data.img. |
| 23:19.04 | bsod666 | where abouts is that? |
| 23:19.50 | phh | in the root of the sdcard |
| 23:19.52 | phh | time to sleep |
| 23:20.00 | bsod666 | you mean rootfs.img? |
| 23:28.25 | bsod666 | mmm obviously not |
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| 23:54.03 | bsod666 | hey can someone help cant get android to boot |