| 00:00.22 | makkonen | well, reverting to the Oct 13 version of those 2 files doesn't seem to break anything, so phh may commit that revert, and then the autobuild would work for cdma |
| 00:00.24 | tmzt | right, we know the kernel issues |
| 00:00.31 | tmzt | but the 'support' is user |
| 00:00.43 | tmzt | it will break topa/rhod |
| 00:01.13 | user_ | so the oct 13 version of smd and smd_rpcrouter boots, and the current one doesn't? |
| 00:02.28 | makkonen | user: yes. |
| 00:02.34 | makkonen | tmzt: what are ril changes? |
| 00:02.57 | tmzt | mdrobnak added cdma support to the ril |
| 00:03.07 | tmzt | it must be in the utb android images |
| 00:03.34 | makkonen | yeah, phh gave me a different libhtcgeneric-ril.so and I rolled it into the rootfs.img that's on cUTB |
| 00:05.10 | makkonen | I assume that's the mdrobnak one. I didn't get a clear understanding of where it came from. |
| 00:07.00 | makkonen | Do we know if the problem with the data-enabled kernel is also due to the ril, or somewhere else? I've been trying to document it, but I can't get any logging via adb working to test. |
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| 00:10.40 | MrPippy | for logging i've always used usbnet, and in /init have it set an ip and start a telnet server |
| 00:10.47 | MrPippy | then i can see dmesg or logcat |
| 00:10.59 | makkonen | on your diam500? |
| 00:11.20 | MrPippy | yeah |
| 00:11.28 | makkonen | I haven't been able to get any response off the usb on my raph800. maybe usbnet will work better than adb. |
| 00:12.43 | MrPippy | from the linuxtogo kernel tree i have, board-htcraphael doesn't have adb enabled anyway |
| 00:12.44 | tmzt | why is that? |
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| 00:13.15 | makkonen | mrpippy: yeah. I tried turning it on. didn't work. |
| 00:13.27 | tmzt | that's rfkill |
| 00:13.30 | tmzt | disable it |
| 00:13.34 | tmzt | and try |
| 00:13.36 | user_ | what is rfkill? |
| 00:13.40 | makkonen | ah. |
| 00:13.58 | MrPippy | yeah, i have to comment out raphael_rfkill in devices[] for it to work |
| 00:14.13 | MrPippy | and bring up usb0 in /init |
| 00:15.00 | tmzt | yes |
| 00:15.11 | tmzt | or disable it in in .config |
| 00:15.37 | makkonen | phh: newest from glemsom's still gives me nothing readable in ramconsole. I hope I'm not doing it wrong. |
| 00:15.40 | user_ | other HTC phones come with android but use similar hardware. Can't we take any useful files from them? |
| 00:16.00 | makkonen | mrpippy: can I get a copy of the lines from your init script? |
| 00:17.24 | MrPippy | makkonen: i have these near the top of my init script |
| 00:17.28 | MrPippy | mkdir /dev/pts |
| 00:17.29 | MrPippy | mknod -m a=rw /dev/ptmx c 5 2 |
| 00:17.29 | MrPippy | ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.206 netmask 255.255.255.0 up |
| 00:17.29 | MrPippy | busybox telnetd -l /bin/sh |
| 00:17.53 | makkonen | thanks |
| 00:17.55 | MrPippy | hmm not all the lines made it |
| 00:18.03 | MrPippy | these are the important ones: |
| 00:18.04 | MrPippy | ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.206 netmask 255.255.255.0 up |
| 00:18.04 | MrPippy | busybox telnetd -l /bin/sh |
| 00:18.31 | makkonen | those seem more obvious than the mknod one. |
| 00:18.36 | MrPippy | but i think i had to also make and mount /dev/pts before that |
| 00:18.37 | MrPippy | mkdir /dev/pts |
| 00:18.38 | MrPippy | mknod -m a=rw /dev/ptmx c 5 2 |
| 00:18.50 | MrPippy | hmm i keep missing a line |
| 00:18.51 | MrPippy | mkdir /dev/pts |
| 00:19.35 | MrPippy | bin/mount -t devpts none /dev/pts (put a / at the front of this line) |
| 00:19.43 | MrPippy | mknod -m a=rw /dev/ptmx c 5 2 |
| 00:20.16 | makkonen | alright. I think I've got it now. |
| 00:20.35 | makkonen | just have to hope enabling usb networking is not too much of a headache. |
| 00:21.17 | MrPippy | it can be a pain, but at least you have a keyboard to type commands if you need to |
| 00:22.45 | makkonen | I'm pretty sure something during loading android with cdma data enabled is causing a kernel panic. I'm further guessing it has to do with that same rpcrouter stuff. but I would like some hard evidence before I put all my time into that. |
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| 00:31.42 | makkonen | is mdrobnak's ril code available anywhere? Does anyone know? |
| 00:32.21 | tmzt | ril is more liekly |
| 00:32.39 | makkonen | except it's not hanging, it's rebooting. |
| 00:32.46 | tmzt | gitorious qualcomm |
| 00:33.01 | makkonen | whatever, I'm just looking for breadcrumbs at this point. hopefully soon I'll have something better to go on. |
| 00:57.02 | makkonen | thanks all. gotta go. Hopefully better things to come. |
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| 02:07.38 | JDShadowline | yarr i got my rom dump |
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| 02:39.38 | MrPippy | wow my first try booting a kernel built from gitorious on diam500 and it doesn' |
| 02:39.38 | MrPippy | t |
| 02:39.43 | MrPippy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:25.07 | makkonen | MrPippy: I've found the latest build from gitorious to be a little flaky. sometimes it boots ok, sometimes it hangs before it gets past haret. |
| 04:25.38 | makkonen | Hadn't noticed that on other recent builds, so I'm not sure what's going on. |
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| 05:18.32 | MatBee | odd |
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| 09:25.06 | NetRipper | oops:) |
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| 10:29.28 | dcordes | Brenton, not me. |
| 10:33.03 | Brenton | hey do you kno wmuch about HTC Kaisers? |
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| 10:33.54 | Brenton | because im having some problems with my HTC Kaiser, that perhaps someone can help me with? |
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| 10:38.29 | Brenton | please, anyone? |
| 10:38.42 | Brenton | dcordes, how about you? |
| 10:42.36 | dcordes | what's the problem? |
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| 10:43.49 | Brenton | well bassically i ran that harem program on my phone once |
| 10:43.54 | Brenton | after i booted back into WM 6.1 |
| 10:44.05 | Brenton | it seems to not run unsigned applications now |
| 10:44.14 | Brenton | so i cant flash to 6.5 or anything |
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| 10:44.59 | Brenton | btw all this happened like 6 months ago, couldnt fix it then but im trying again now |
| 10:48.59 | swc|666 | harem? |
| 10:49.34 | swc|666 | haret u mean right?? |
| 10:49.48 | Brenton | ahh yes that must be it |
| 10:50.43 | swc|666 | and what ROM do u have/did u have on the kaiser? |
| 10:51.32 | Brenton | not sure, would have been a default 6.1 presumably |
| 10:51.37 | Brenton | whatever it had when i bought it |
| 10:52.10 | Brenton | but i wasnt first owner, i think it was originally a work phone. But i could tell it had hardly been used |
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| 10:52.31 | Brenton | came with the box and the phone was still in all the plastic stuff |
| 10:52.49 | swc|666 | so a stock ROM then |
| 10:53.28 | Brenton | yeah i suppose |
| 10:53.40 | Brenton | but it ran unsigned applications and was unlocked originally |
| 10:53.40 | swc|666 | i dont really see how haret could have done that .. where did u get haret from? |
| 10:53.46 | Brenton | official site |
| 10:53.54 | swc|666 | link |
| 10:54.02 | Brenton | idk this was 6 months ago |
| 10:54.13 | Brenton | i got the link off xda-developers the main thread for it |
| 10:54.32 | Brenton | but what would be the main cause for the problem and how is it usually fixed? |
| 10:54.56 | swc|666 | i'd be careful of 6 month old ftp files on xda-devs |
| 10:55.52 | Brenton | nah i actually did it 6 months ago though |
| 10:56.04 | Brenton | i just lost interest in phone related things then |
| 10:56.20 | Brenton | but now i want to put 6.5 back on again |
| 10:56.47 | Brenton | it was never on, i mean i wanted to put it on before and couldnt and i want to put it on now again xD |
| 10:57.52 | Brenton | but is there any obvious cause for it? |
| 11:00.46 | swc|666 | i'd say a corrupt rom |
| 11:01.01 | swc|666 | 's $0.02 |
| 11:01.08 | Brenton | but how would it become corrupted? |
| 11:01.14 | Brenton | and anyway to fix it? |
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| 13:05.15 | leviathan | GNUtoo: did you test now? |
| 13:06.09 | leviathan | did you get rpc to run? |
| 13:06.22 | leviathan | oh, and hi |
| 13:06.24 | leviathan | ^^ |
| 13:08.40 | Squarc | hmm... |
| 13:09.06 | Squarc | I forgot the build commands :/.... used then a while ago (september) when I was making builds every 2 days... |
| 13:09.34 | Squarc | but I didn't note then anywhere... I want to compile with the htcdiamond_android_defconfig config.... but cant find howto on the wiki... anyone here can tell me howto? |
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| 13:10.05 | Squarc | (to build that zImage, that is..) |
| 13:10.12 | leviathan | dunno,,, -> android |
| 13:10.24 | leviathan | :P |
| 13:10.29 | leviathan | uhhm |
| 13:10.33 | leviathan | but kernel is easy |
| 13:10.37 | Squarc | yes |
| 13:10.43 | Squarc | I have those android packages in place allready |
| 13:10.45 | leviathan | you need a toolchain |
| 13:10.56 | Squarc | I should only build the kernel with the htcdiamond_android_defconfig config..... |
| 13:11.15 | Squarc | and my system is still the same (have everything installed..) but I just forgot the commands to execute to do the build.. :p |
| 13:11.20 | leviathan | cp htcdiamond_android_defconfig .config |
| 13:11.27 | leviathan | make CROSS_COMPILE=/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/bin/ ARCH=arm |
| 13:11.44 | leviathan | mkbootimg --cmdline "console=tty0 no_console_suspend=1 root=/dev/mtdblock5 rootfstype=yaffs2 rootdelay=2 fbcon=rotate:1 rw" --kernel arch/arm/boot/zImage --ramdisk /home/leviathan/Downloads/split_bootimg/newramdisk.cpio.gz -o openmoko-boot.img |
| 13:11.58 | leviathan | fastboot flash boot openmoko-boot.img |
| 13:12.10 | Squarc | ahh :) |
| 13:12.10 | leviathan | should everywhere work, where fastboot runs |
| 13:12.22 | leviathan | else you just ommit the last two lines |
| 13:12.33 | Squarc | uhu :) |
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| 13:25.32 | leviathan | GNUtoo: pleas inform me as soon as you got rpc running |
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| 13:46.21 | makkonen | anyone want a google wave invite? they tossed 25 my way overnight. /msg me your email address and I'll send one. |
| 14:14.21 | dcordes | makkonen, no |
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| 16:51.37 | AstainHellbring | NetRipper looks like the htc passion will be good news for you |
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| 19:33.17 | phh | 01:00makkonenwell, reverting to the Oct 13 version of those 2 files doesn't seem to break anything, so phh may commit that revert, and then the autobuild would work for cdma |
| 19:33.35 | phh | it's the last one i gave you, just reverting this single commit seems not to be enough |
| 19:34.03 | phh | I'll see about newer patches, if they are needed |
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| 19:43.56 | kupo | howdy phh I noticed you mentioned on xda-devel, how's the progress on android for the Sprint treo pro? |
| 19:44.25 | phh | some memory layout problems has to be fixed |
| 19:44.54 | phh | according to <i don't remember who told me that>, you can use old zImages with raphael's mtype |
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| 19:46.58 | phh | MatBeez: I don't remember, have you tried ramconsole with one of my last zImage ? |
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| 20:22.09 | phh_ | MatBeez: the 'fixed' ram_console kernel is actually the last one. I've read the logs I think you didn't reported anything about it |
| 20:23.43 | yoyey | hi all |
| 20:23.54 | phh_ | hi yoyey |
| 20:24.08 | phh_ | yoyey: any progress ? |
| 20:24.18 | yoyey | I just trying init panel |
| 20:24.35 | phh_ | you got some docs ? |
| 20:25.37 | yoyey | no but with epson utility perhaps we can try to find the good register |
| 20:25.51 | phh_ | epson utility ? |
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| 20:28.20 | yoyey | on the epson site there is some epson utility program |
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| 20:32.02 | phh_ | ok |
| 20:32.03 | yoyey | but I want to try with haret do you know the mddi physical addr ? |
| 20:32.13 | phh_ | check the source :p |
| 20:34.23 | phh_ | yoyey: grep MDH_PHYS -r arch/arm/mach-msm |
| 20:35.22 | yoyey | thanks |
| 20:51.33 | NetRipper | mmm |
| 20:51.41 | NetRipper | i had the kernel through the zImage decompression |
| 20:51.53 | phh | todo:understand how so many people can find my last commits "good progress", while it's a totally disaster imho. |
| 20:52.02 | phh | NetRipper: how ? |
| 20:52.09 | NetRipper | changed something in both haret and the decompression code.. so gotta pinpoint the problem |
| 20:52.37 | NetRipper | has to do with the cache flushing |
| 20:52.42 | NetRipper | it seems to sometimes hang the cpu |
| 20:53.01 | phh | oh |
| 20:54.49 | NetRipper | however the decompression took like 30 sec or so |
| 20:55.10 | phh | maybe windows changes the clock to an idle clock or something like that ? |
| 20:55.12 | NetRipper | a really long time... i was just about to pick up the phone when the flashlight went on.. it was scary |
| 20:55.28 | NetRipper | yea might be |
| 20:56.46 | phh | you can program any clock yet ? |
| 20:58.26 | NetRipper | not getting that far yet hehe |
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| 21:00.16 | NetRipper | c5 0 Invalidate all instruction caches to PoU. Also flushes branch target cache.[a]SBZ |
| 21:00.22 | NetRipper | thats the instruction that hangs the cpu somehow |
| 21:01.22 | NetRipper | oops, wrong |
| 21:02.01 | NetRipper | hmm! |
| 21:02.46 | NetRipper | according to cortex-a8 docs, the instruction that hangs the cpu doesn't even exist |
| 21:02.50 | NetRipper | although it's arm7 generic |
| 21:03.07 | NetRipper | http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.ddi0344j/Babhejba.html |
| 21:03.14 | NetRipper | c7, c14, 0 |
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| 21:06.49 | NetRipper | i feel like im jumping to conclusions |
| 21:10.54 | NetRipper | cr2, ping |
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| 21:16.34 | Brenton | hey quick question, whats the fastest way to back up my phone before doing a hard restart? |
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| 21:38.18 | tmzt | bret: google sync or ppcpimbackup |
| 21:38.45 | gehzumteufel | Depends on the version of Windows Mobile you have |
| 21:39.07 | tmzt | phh: gito is broken now on rhod500 |
| 21:39.25 | tmzt | cr2: ping I'll be available in a few |
| 21:39.36 | phh | tmzt: i'll fix htc_msm_fb if you want |
| 21:39.36 | tmzt | at the store right now looking at nokia booklet |
| 21:39.41 | tmzt | please :) |
| 21:40.08 | tmzt | I can't even confirm this thing has a cell modem |
| 21:40.15 | phh | lol |
| 21:40.54 | gehzumteufel | lol owned |
| 21:40.54 | tmzt | it could be an enum issue because it's a display or missing the sim |
| 21:41.14 | gehzumteufel | rhod500 is cdma though. Shouldn't need the sim to notice the cell modem |
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| 21:41.23 | tmzt | uh, the booklet |
| 21:41.50 | tmzt | I mean it's possible the modem won't appear on the bus without a sim |
| 21:42.46 | gehzumteufel | Why wouldn't it though? The cell modem is active with or without a sim |
| 21:42.46 | phh | (one day i'll have to understand how cdma works) |
| 21:42.46 | gehzumteufel | The sim is for global roaming |
| 21:42.56 | gehzumteufel | phh: 3G GSM uses CDMA |
| 21:42.56 | gehzumteufel | For the air interface |
| 21:42.56 | phh | oh ? |
| 21:42.57 | Brenton | i have wimo 6.1, so you reckon ppcimbackup? |
| 21:43.29 | phh | I thaught it was WCDMA which was far from CDMA |
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| 21:43.37 | tmzt | I would |
| 21:43.38 | gehzumteufel | Brenton: Then PPCPimBackup will work perfectly. |
| 21:43.38 | Brenton | allright thanks |
| 21:43.38 | tmzt | unless you want google sync |
| 21:43.38 | tmzt | which is also good |
| 21:43.39 | tmzt | just add activesync server |
| 21:43.41 | Brenton | if this fixes the issue with my phone, what 6.5 rom do you sugggest? |
| 21:43.42 | tmzt | m.google.com |
| 21:43.47 | tmzt | disable tasks |
| 21:43.49 | gehzumteufel | phh: WCDMA is also used in flat out CDMA networks like Verizon and Sprint. WCDMA is the 3g aspect of CDMA |
| 21:43.50 | tmzt | and syncs |
| 21:44.01 | Brenton | htc kaiser |
| 21:44.03 | tmzt | no |
| 21:44.08 | phh | gehzumteufel: ok |
| 21:44.08 | tmzt | revb is not wcdma |
| 21:44.22 | phh | tmzt: ah ? |
| 21:44.26 | phh | they want to kill my brain ? :p |
| 21:44.45 | phh | oh xda's dead again |
| 21:45.02 | gehzumteufel | WCDMA is still the air interface for rev b |
| 21:45.25 | gehzumteufel | You are thinking UWB? Ultra-wideband? |
| 21:45.43 | Brenton | hey actually with PIM backup/ppcimbackup will my phone need to be able to run unsigned applications? |
| 21:45.58 | gehzumteufel | Brenton it runs on a stock phone, so no issues. |
| 21:46.00 | Brenton | because thats the reason i need to hard reset, phone stopped running unsigned applications |
| 21:46.10 | Brenton | ok thanks |
| 21:46.13 | gehzumteufel | np |
| 21:50.20 | gehzumteufel | tmzt Can you show me stuff proving otherwise, that Rev. B is not W-CDMA? |
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| 21:50.50 | gehzumteufel | Rev B is just an improvement on Rev A and is backwards compatible with Rev A |
| 21:51.25 | leviathan | gnutoo_: here? |
| 21:51.38 | leviathan | gnutoo_: did you get my qdsp5-version running? |
| 21:51.38 | gnutoo_ | leviathan, yes I'll go to sleep |
| 21:51.45 | leviathan | ok |
| 21:51.50 | gnutoo_ | no I didn't have time to do any hacking today |
| 21:51.55 | leviathan | oh |
| 21:51.56 | leviathan | ok |
| 21:52.11 | phh | gehzumteufel: well, UMTS is based on WCDMA and needs a SIM card... is that enough ? :p |
| 21:52.41 | leviathan | gnutoo_: well, I'll try to hack around a little bit and go to sleep too then |
| 21:53.01 | gnutoo_ | ok |
| 21:53.54 | gehzumteufel | Because the UMTS standard ONLY uses W-CDMA as the air interface and nothing more. With a full CDMA network, you have the option of using or not using an RUIM (CDMA version of the SIM) card on your network. As a way to control the devices on the network, both Sprint and Verizon implemented no RUIM cards. |
| 21:54.31 | gehzumteufel | This will inevitably change with the swap on Verizon to LTE, but has yet to at this point |
| 21:55.13 | gehzumteufel | I am sure you are aweare of NTT Docomo? They use a USIM in their CDMA networks. |
| 21:56.04 | gehzumteufel | But all this is neither here nor there. The whole point is that you have a CDMA device, that the cell modem is present and should be enumerated on the device whether a SIM is present or not. |
| 21:56.13 | phh | that's such a big mess /o\ |
| 21:56.55 | phh | i've GSM/UMTS/HSDPA phone, that's more simple :D |
| 21:57.24 | gehzumteufel | phh haha yeah, but in Japan where NTT operates and is based, they implemented a pre-final spec of CDMA. As such, a lot of their phones are incompatible with other CDMA networks around the world. And yeah I have a GSM/UMTS/HSDPA one also. w00t for that |
| 21:57.42 | phh | -_- |
| 21:57.59 | catfishk | is there a way to have WiFi support with makkonen's CDMA supporting zImage and rootfs on a RAPH800? maybe by using a newer modules package? i have tried to no avail |
| 21:58.29 | phh | makkonen: oh btw, download http://husson.hd.free.fr/automated-modules.tar.gz (iirc) you'll be able to build modules :p |
| 21:58.40 | phh | err no, my server is down for the day |
| 21:59.28 | gehzumteufel | lol that sucks |
| 22:00.31 | phh | makkonen: clone compat-wireless-msm from my gitorious, there is a build.sh script you can use |
| 22:00.50 | phh | (but this one has no ramzswap) |
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| 22:31.27 | makkonen | phh: alright. I had already cloned it, but hadn't bothered trying to build them. |
| 22:31.43 | phh | makkonen: well if you want to provide wifi modules |
| 22:31.50 | phh | it seems some users are interested in it :p |
| 22:31.59 | makkonen | :-) |
| 22:32.04 | phh | makkonen: btw, have you tried data connexion with the removal of the if(i==1)i=7; thing ? |
| 22:32.37 | makkonen | didn't really expect that the changes I made to the kernel would've broken the wireless modules built off the main source. but I'll give it a try. |
| 22:32.51 | phh | it doesn't break anything |
| 22:33.06 | phh | it's just that modules have to be built for every kernel build |
| 22:33.28 | makkonen | I think it also required disabling USB_FUNCTION_DIAG to get data connection working. |
| 22:33.37 | phh | (we could do insmods -f but current busybox's doesn't have it anyway) |
| 22:33.42 | phh | makkonen: i'm pretty sure it's disabled |
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| 22:35.37 | makkonen | it's enabled in the htc_msm_android_defconfig |
| 22:35.48 | phh | yes but disabled in source code :p |
| 22:35.53 | catfishk | ;) |
| 22:35.59 | makkonen | ok. |
| 22:36.32 | makkonen | let me boot up to angstrom and test it. |
| 22:36.33 | phh | for a reason i don't understand, the functions has to be declared in the board, and current raphael board file doesn't have diag |
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| 22:45.58 | [1]makkonen | phh: data does not seem to work. |
| 22:46.04 | phh | éok |
| 22:46.17 | phh | an error maybe ? |
| 22:46.41 | makkonen | same as so many times, ENODEV on /dev/smd1 |
| 22:46.45 | phh | ok |
| 22:47.04 | phh | have you tried a big old grep ENODEV -r arch/arm/mach-msm ? :D |
| 22:47.19 | makkonen | let me try compiling with USB_FUNCTION_DIAG off and see what happens. I think that was the only other piece of the puzzle. at least at the kernel level. |
| 22:47.26 | phh | ok |
| 22:51.06 | makkonen | unrelated question -- I disabled RFKILL, and got USB to come up during boot... but it only stays up for about a minute, and then goes down and doesn't seem to respond to plugging/unplugging anymore. any idea? |
| 22:51.28 | phh | maybe because of idle/sleep |
| 22:51.40 | phh | try pm.idle_sleep_mode=6 |
| 22:52.02 | makkonen | that turns it off entirely? |
| 22:52.05 | pitbullthe1st | Hi can I ask support questions in here? |
| 22:52.09 | phh | yup |
| 22:52.14 | phh | pitbullthe1st: depends for what |
| 22:52.30 | pitbullthe1st | android on the blackstone |
| 22:53.00 | phh | I prefer you ask on xda's thread |
| 22:53.12 | pitbullthe1st | O ok |
| 22:54.07 | phh | (or on the bugtracker's forum) |
| 22:55.39 | makkonen | oh, btw, if anyone wants a google wave invite, I've got more than I know what to do with. just /msg me with an email address if you want one. Maybe it'd be a better place than a forum for putting persistent info. ...probably not, though. |
| 22:56.04 | phh | i've heard there is already some wave about android on msm wince |
| 22:56.10 | phh | do you know how to join it ? |
| 22:56.30 | makkonen | I think unless they've made it public, they have to manually add you to it. |
| 22:56.40 | makkonen | they = anyone already on it. |
| 22:56.56 | phh | well the "address" has been published somewhere in the android diamond thread :p |
| 22:57.23 | makkonen | if they have made it public, you just search for 'with:public android msm' or whatever. |
| 22:57.28 | phh | ok |
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| 22:58.46 | phh | google wave on a 3G connection on a 1Ghz P-M |
| 22:58.49 | phh | maybe not a good idea. |
| 22:59.04 | makkonen | and if there's a link to the wave's address... I have no idea what to do. :-p I'll go check it out; I'm curious. |
| 23:00.17 | Untouchab1e | Anyone need a Wave invite? |
| 23:00.28 | phh | lol |
| 23:00.32 | phh | everybody has thausends :p |
| 23:00.40 | makkonen | yeah. It's pretty flaky on my core 2 duo, can't imagine it on a 1ghz p-m |
| 23:01.01 | phh | it's readable. |
| 23:01.01 | ToAsTcfh | tmzt: u around? |
| 23:01.04 | Untouchab1e | lol, I know >.<... Got like 27 invites left and have noone to give htem to |
| 23:01.13 | phh | oh i've only 25 |
| 23:03.41 | phh | i wonder how to use google wave on android ... |
| 23:03.51 | phh | I can't see how this is even theorically possible :p |
| 23:04.02 | makkonen | haha |
| 23:04.13 | pitbullthe1st | Can I ask what this room is for please? |
| 23:04.24 | phh | speaking about the weather |
| 23:04.35 | phh | oh wait no |
| 23:04.36 | ToAsTcfh | its cloudy here |
| 23:04.38 | makkonen | I've heard it's pretty good on iphone. I bet they'll strip it down so it works eventually. |
| 23:04.53 | phh | pitbullthe1st: kernel development talks |
| 23:04.55 | phh | most of the time. |
| 23:05.10 | pitbullthe1st | O ok so well over my head lol |
| 23:05.27 | pitbullthe1st | I'm just an ubuntu junky lol |
| 23:05.36 | Untouchab1e | Google Wave on Android will probably be dependant on a dedicated app for it.. Im currently using the N900's exellent browser to do it, but even then, its a bit slow |
| 23:05.48 | phh | pitbullthe1st: you want ubuntu on your phone ? :p |
| 23:06.02 | phh | Untouchab1e: the major problem is the size of the screen. |
| 23:06.12 | phh | I can barely use it on my 22" screen -_- |
| 23:06.15 | pitbullthe1st | I would love it on there but it did not work when I tryed it |
| 23:06.16 | Untouchab1e | hah |
| 23:06.29 | makkonen | hell, it's cramped on my 1920x1200 screen. ...yeah. |
| 23:06.58 | phh | pitbullthe1st: if you know some interesting sources I can make an easy to install package |
| 23:07.06 | phh | the current package I got has nothing in it |
| 23:07.08 | phh | just firefox. |
| 23:07.17 | phh | (firefox starts on that few memory ! ) |
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| 23:08.28 | pitbullthe1st | hmmmm well I only tryed the one in the android xda forum as for packages I don't know any that would run on a phone |
| 23:08.55 | phh | pitbullthe1st: one for MID devices would be fine too |
| 23:09.06 | phh | with the thing that is on the forum, there is just nothing. |
| 23:09.11 | phh | no virtual keyboard |
| 23:09.42 | pitbullthe1st | I get a keybord but it will not mount the file system |
| 23:10.01 | phh | this keyboard doesn't count. |
| 23:10.33 | pitbullthe1st | o |
| 23:10.51 | phh | if you really want to try it, wait tomorrow i'll post a package |
| 23:11.22 | tmzt | cr2: still here? |
| 23:11.25 | pitbullthe1st | I have a question how will it work as a phone or will it just not? |
| 23:11.38 | tmzt | will what? |
| 23:11.42 | pitbullthe1st | O and yes I would like to try it |
| 23:11.45 | phh | pitbullthe1st: if you find a phone app, it will work as a phone :p |
| 23:12.16 | NetRipper | if the MMU is enabled in the kernel, but the io mapping has not been done yet... is the physical memory accessible somehow? |
| 23:12.22 | pitbullthe1st | ok well I can't say I have seen one of them |
| 23:12.26 | ToAsTcfh | phh: so u said that ppp isnt gonna work on cdma right? |
| 23:12.34 | tmzt | NetRipper: leo? |
| 23:12.41 | NetRipper | tmzt, any linux |
| 23:12.43 | phh | ToAsTcfh: no, not cdma related |
| 23:12.45 | phh | but board related |
| 23:12.49 | tmzt | it would be |
| 23:12.58 | tmzt | if the cpu works wkith mmu off |
| 23:13.03 | NetRipper | tmzt, do you know where it's remapped to? |
| 23:13.10 | tmzt | things like msm have issues with io |
| 23:13.11 | NetRipper | like is there a base virtual address? |
| 23:13.13 | makkonen | phh: ok. latest source from gitorious, with the reverted smd.c and smd_rpcrouter.c => no data. same thing with USB_FUNCTION_DIAG commented out in the defconfig => data works in angstrom. |
| 23:13.15 | tmzt | not remapped at all? |
| 23:13.21 | tmzt | you mean ram? |
| 23:13.26 | phh | makkonen: alright |
| 23:13.28 | NetRipper | tmzt, yes, i want to access gpio |
| 23:13.30 | phh | I don't get it, but alright. |
| 23:13.36 | ToAsTcfh | phh: so cdma is using what then? |
| 23:13.53 | NetRipper | tmzt, but before the msm_ioremap() is done |
| 23:14.01 | phh | ToAsTcfh: oh wait I thaught you said pppd |
| 23:14.01 | phh | not ppp |
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| 23:14.13 | phh | well I don't know what CDMA use as underlying protocol and i don't care |
| 23:14.27 | phh | I just know that on your board (and it's not because of the CDMA thing), you have rmnet |
| 23:14.28 | phh | not pppd |
| 23:15.11 | phh | (maybe qualcomm kept backward compatibility) |
| 23:16.11 | ToAsTcfh | and the ril decides which to use? |
| 23:16.18 | phh | no |
| 23:16.25 | phh | htc's official RIL uses rmnet |
| 23:16.32 | ToAsTcfh | oh |
| 23:16.32 | phh | "we" (wince msm) uses pppd |
| 23:17.22 | ToAsTcfh | oh... isee |
| 23:17.31 | ToAsTcfh | makes since now |
| 23:18.20 | ToAsTcfh | so what if it needs to call #777 to get data>? |
| 23:18.35 | phh | why "what if" ... ? |
| 23:18.40 | phh | both RIL has to do that afaik |
| 23:18.55 | ToAsTcfh | well thats what i believe it suppose to do |
| 23:19.20 | ToAsTcfh | and its no calling it |
| 23:19.31 | phh | how do you know ? |
| 23:19.34 | phh | logcat -b radio ? |
| 23:20.07 | makkonen | toastcfh: what device do you have? |
| 23:21.21 | ToAsTcfh | hero cdma |
| 23:21.41 | makkonen | ah, right. |
| 23:21.43 | ToAsTcfh | im gonna compair the logcats and get back about it |
| 23:26.43 | makkonen | phh: so... um... I just booted that kernel with USB_FUNCTION_DIAG turned off into android. and it loads. and works. Connects data, brings up a google page. |
| 23:27.09 | phh | alright |
| 23:27.27 | phh | makkonen: with my updated ril I guess ? |
| 23:27.32 | makkonen | yes |
| 23:27.46 | phh | ok |
| 23:28.18 | phh | I'll see if it's safe to revert that much changes in smd* |
| 23:28.24 | phh | if so i'll try to do a release soon |
| 23:30.16 | makkonen | I'll try to figure out where USB_FUNCTION_DIAG is getting called |
| 23:30.37 | makkonen | and see if wifi modules work. And then I'll probably throw a build of this up on ppcgeeks. |
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| 23:32.31 | makkonen | I'd feel better if I knew what had changed to make this work. But it is nice to see it working. |
| 23:33.55 | phh | the major problem is for tmzt since reverting breaks rhod. |
| 23:34.00 | phh | (ok rhod is already broken and ? :D) |
| 23:34.09 | makkonen | haha |
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| 23:35.25 | makkonen | that line in smd.c about // this crashes if you don't call it, but really that's what you want |
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| 23:35.54 | phh | you said you already tried removing it |
| 23:36.01 | makkonen | makes me thinking that wholesale reverting it is not a great choice. But I don't have any idea how to figure out where the crash is coming from. |
| 23:36.13 | phh | yeah ... |
| 23:36.14 | makkonen | I did. |
| 23:36.46 | phh | ok |
| 23:36.47 | makkonen | I just don't speak C. and don't really understand low level stuff like that. |
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| 23:37.08 | phh | I do speak C |
| 23:37.12 | phh | but I don't understand that either :p |
| 23:38.00 | makkonen | :-) |
| 23:38.25 | makkonen | running the build.sh for the modules... what are pushd and popd? |
| 23:39.08 | phh | pushd $1 ~= cd $1 |
| 23:39.10 | phh | popd ~= cd - |
| 23:39.33 | phh | but it's a stack |
| 23:39.38 | makkonen | right |
| 23:39.54 | makkonen | push and pop directory, got it. |
| 23:40.00 | phh | yes :) |
| 23:40.11 | phh | here it is exactly the same as cd $i and cd - |
| 23:40.18 | phh | i just prefer using it in scripts |
| 23:43.30 | makkonen | does disabling RFKILL cause any harm? |
| 23:43.43 | makkonen | I'm wondering if I should try any further to get usb working at this point. |
| 23:44.05 | phh | rfkill is needed for bluetooth |
| 23:44.08 | phh | you'd better fix it |
| 23:44.23 | phh | I can if(machine_is()) it until it is fixe |
| 23:44.23 | phh | d |
| 23:44.34 | makkonen | yeah |
| 23:45.35 | phh | (I love putting some if (machine_isblabla()) everywhere.) |
| 23:46.51 | makkonen | haha. as far as ugly hacks go, it's a little more elegant than my just changing the defconfig |
| 23:47.31 | phh | anyway I aim at supporting as many as possible systems with only one image |
| 23:47.52 | phh | (to unify a bit development) |
| 23:48.26 | MatBeez | hey phh |
| 23:48.34 | MatBeez | did you post something for me earlier? |
| 23:48.49 | phh | yes and no |
| 23:48.58 | phh | I pushed it |
| 23:49.11 | phh | http://zimages.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/autobuild_system/htc-msm-android/zImage-modules-20091208_001045.tar |
| 23:49.18 | phh | and I hope ramconsole works on this one. |
| 23:49.21 | phh | ~ramconsole |
| 23:49.21 | apt | methinks ramconsole is pwf dm 0x00800000 0x00100000 |
| 23:49.53 | makkonen | phh: yeah, it's smart. gets all the people staring at the same codebase, which means less replicated effort. |
| 23:50.41 | phh | current system is way to separate ... Until one week ago, every board had his own gpio management,, own memory management ... |
| 23:50.50 | phh | And there is still so much to get in common |