| 00:00.36 | TitanMKD | i do not know if it is the HW of the SW who are broken but the Wifi has strange issue sometime it work fine sometime it doesn't |
| 00:01.48 | leviathan | yeah |
| 00:01.50 | leviathan | I know |
| 00:02.06 | leviathan | im working on msm_wifi and wl1251 from compat-wireless |
| 00:02.06 | TitanMKD | maybe it is specific to Kaiser |
| 00:02.10 | leviathan | nope |
| 00:02.19 | leviathan | its general on all msm-boards |
| 00:02.23 | TitanMKD | hmm |
| 00:02.25 | leviathan | its a firmware matter |
| 00:02.27 | leviathan | -.- |
| 00:02.37 | leviathan | means, the proprietary part |
| 00:02.41 | TitanMKD | yes :( |
| 00:02.44 | leviathan | where we cant do anything |
| 00:03.14 | leviathan | unless we kidnap some of the employees and get the datasheets for the chip with weapon force |
| 00:03.18 | leviathan | but I fear |
| 00:03.22 | TitanMKD | just reverse it |
| 00:03.26 | TitanMKD | but good luck |
| 00:03.34 | leviathan | that we wont have anough time to code the driver then |
| 00:03.38 | leviathan | ^^ |
| 00:04.22 | leviathan | nope, atm I'm hacking around with the wl1251-driver from this kind nokia guy |
| 00:04.37 | leviathan | and it nearly works good |
| 00:04.51 | leviathan | only problem is: ipkg destroys the firmware... or so |
| 00:04.53 | gnutoo | leviathan, I'd like to have wifi....do you have patches? |
| 00:05.06 | leviathan | I've got the bitbake file |
| 00:05.17 | leviathan | known to have worked one time |
| 00:05.18 | leviathan | ... |
| 00:05.20 | leviathan | mom |
| 00:05.23 | gnutoo | ok could you pastebin it to me |
| 00:05.24 | gnutoo | ? |
| 00:05.35 | leviathan | I can mail it |
| 00:05.36 | leviathan | ... |
| 00:05.37 | gnutoo | btw why don't you submit wifi to oe |
| 00:05.39 | gnutoo | mail is slow |
| 00:05.45 | gnutoo | but if you want you can mail |
| 00:05.47 | gnutoo | I'll wait |
| 00:05.52 | gnutoo | (greylisting) |
| 00:06.52 | leviathan | :) |
| 00:06.53 | TitanMKD | in any case Android is very impresive with an optimized kernel |
| 00:07.05 | TitanMKD | i just removed the option Os to O2 |
| 00:07.09 | leviathan | and it stops to be a real linux |
| 00:07.13 | TitanMKD | and it react in realtime now ;) |
| 00:07.21 | leviathan | exactly because things like that |
| 00:07.23 | TitanMKD | and on a Kaiser |
| 00:07.35 | leviathan | its more windowsce without license costs for me |
| 00:07.39 | leviathan | then a linux |
| 00:07.58 | leviathan | windows is realtime too |
| 00:08.00 | leviathan | -.- |
| 00:08.18 | leviathan | there are reasons why I'm not using windows, mac or ubuntu |
| 00:08.28 | leviathan | I want that it runs |
| 00:08.49 | TitanMKD | leviathan and what are you using ? |
| 00:08.52 | leviathan | and thats very easy to fix problems fast and autonomous anytime, anywhere |
| 00:09.04 | leviathan | I'm using debian and gentoo |
| 00:09.12 | leviathan | and OpenMoko on my smartphone |
| 00:09.28 | leviathan | my workstation here has a gentoo on it |
| 00:09.30 | TitanMKD | I develop on windoz with a Vmware on Ubuntu 9.10 and all work fine |
| 00:09.46 | leviathan | as long, as you never touch the subsystem... |
| 00:09.58 | leviathan | and as long that the apps work as designed |
| 00:10.20 | leviathan | and your satisfied with the functionality that youve been given from the distributor |
| 00:10.28 | TitanMKD | do you know if there is sort of test suite for kernel module ? |
| 00:10.38 | leviathan | but as soon as something doesnr work, youve got the ass card |
| 00:10.41 | TitanMKD | because Linux lack of test |
| 00:10.56 | leviathan | linux doesnt lack of test |
| 00:11.06 | leviathan | you just dont know the tools ;-) |
| 00:11.10 | leviathan | theres ddd |
| 00:11.14 | TitanMKD | and for such sensitive things i will like to do automatic tests of code modified to do not have regression ... |
| 00:11.18 | leviathan | a graphical frontend for debuggers |
| 00:11.23 | leviathan | and kgdb |
| 00:11.27 | leviathan | a kernel debugger |
| 00:11.29 | TitanMKD | yes |
| 00:11.37 | TitanMKD | but i speak about automatic test ;) |
| 00:11.51 | leviathan | then you can activate all debug functions in the kernel config |
| 00:11.56 | TitanMKD | at least for code not too close to hw |
| 00:11.56 | leviathan | youre using ubuntu? |
| 00:12.07 | leviathan | then you can build a new debian/ubuntu package |
| 00:12.12 | leviathan | with all debug options enabled |
| 00:12.30 | leviathan | there you can set automatical dump of all registers in cases of oop |
| 00:12.35 | leviathan | (kernel segfault) |
| 00:12.37 | TitanMKD | yes |
| 00:12.48 | TitanMKD | and use gdbserver on Android |
| 00:12.49 | leviathan | you can also take another machine |
| 00:12.56 | leviathan | yes |
| 00:12.59 | TitanMKD | linked to Linux through usb |
| 00:12.59 | leviathan | for example |
| 00:13.04 | TitanMKD | all is working now |
| 00:13.04 | leviathan | yes |
| 00:13.12 | leviathan | then use ddd |
| 00:13.14 | TitanMKD | with the magic synce |
| 00:13.23 | TitanMKD | yes or better ;) |
| 00:13.55 | TitanMKD | I have found an other with a better GUI |
| 00:14.13 | TitanMKD | or even why not eclipse but i think it is too heavy for such task |
| 00:14.52 | leviathan | why not eclipse? |
| 00:14.55 | leviathan | good question |
| 00:14.58 | leviathan | in my opinion |
| 00:15.00 | TitanMKD | but first I must remove the bug of USB disconnected when battery is full |
| 00:15.30 | leviathan | eclipse is very usefull to develop java, or defining DSLs but not to develop/debug the linux kernel |
| 00:15.34 | TitanMKD | do you know why in the design they have merged battery charge with usb connection detection ? |
| 00:15.40 | leviathan | for such cases better use IDEs like kdevelope |
| 00:15.43 | leviathan | or just use vim |
| 00:15.44 | leviathan | :) |
| 00:16.18 | leviathan | TitanMKD: I never used android and I'll never will |
| 00:16.30 | TitanMKD | ok |
| 00:17.01 | leviathan | there are things I do, there are things I do for lot of money, and there are things I would even do, if you would put a gun in front of my head |
| 00:18.00 | TitanMKD | leviathan and about android you do not want to develop for it ? |
| 00:18.00 | leviathan | using android and sleeping with ennoying chicks, which make the impressions, that theire not even able to spell theire names are such like the last things |
| 00:18.09 | leviathan | *wouldnt |
| 00:18.18 | TitanMKD | ok |
| 00:18.24 | TitanMKD | I just like the concept |
| 00:18.38 | leviathan | I hate theyre concepts I saw |
| 00:18.43 | TitanMKD | and android let deploy linux on mobile |
| 00:18.56 | leviathan | but much more then the concept I dislike theire product |
| 00:19.20 | TitanMKD | I just like the fact there is lot of application and the OS is looking good and is faster than WinCe |
| 00:19.25 | leviathan | better a fat and ugly mobile phone, which was made under the idea of GNU too |
| 00:19.29 | leviathan | then using android |
| 00:19.50 | leviathan | thats the reason, why Im still using freerunner |
| 00:19.50 | TitanMKD | but in any case it is better than using WinCe ;) |
| 00:19.53 | leviathan | regardless I have a htcdream |
| 00:20.35 | leviathan | for me its the same thing... I've the same amound of freedom on both OSs |
| 00:20.45 | leviathan | so I'm investing time into OpenMoko |
| 00:21.03 | leviathan | because its the one and only smartphone OS/Distro I've ever had |
| 00:21.27 | leviathan | for me, theres the hope, that ill get it on a lot of smartphones |
| 00:21.39 | leviathan | and this image |
| 00:21.47 | leviathan | http://ftp.o2s.ch/pub/openmoko/images/shr-full-eglibc-ipk--20091128-htcdream.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
| 00:21.51 | leviathan | already runs |
| 00:21.55 | TitanMKD | in fact i do not know openmoko |
| 00:22.01 | leviathan | on kaiser, dream, and all never htcs |
| 00:22.10 | leviathan | nokia phones and samsung |
| 00:22.17 | leviathan | so... near to the goal |
| 00:22.37 | TitanMKD | woo good |
| 00:22.38 | leviathan | TitanMKD: Are you coming to the congress in berlin? |
| 00:22.50 | TitanMKD | maybe i will switch on OpenMoko |
| 00:22.58 | leviathan | http://events.ccc.de/congress/2009/wiki/index.php/Main_Page |
| 00:23.07 | TitanMKD | for the moment i'm just happy linux is running fast on my mobile phone |
| 00:23.23 | TitanMKD | no I could'nt come there |
| 00:23.35 | leviathan | I'll be there with some other people, and we could help you, to get OM running on your phone too |
| 00:23.54 | leviathan | TitanMKD: oh, ok |
| 00:23.59 | TitanMKD | good to know |
| 00:26.10 | leviathan | I think, I'll go to bed now |
| 00:26.30 | leviathan | because I'm tired and not entirely regeneratet from my cold |
| 00:26.38 | TitanMKD | ok OpenMoko GUI for Phone is FreeRunner |
| 00:26.48 | TitanMKD | and there is also a WikiReader |
| 00:27.11 | leviathan | Nope, NeoFreerunner ist an OpenMoko |
| 00:27.39 | TitanMKD | ha |
| 00:28.07 | leviathan | and one oft the OpenMoko-Linxs are SHR |
| 00:28.19 | leviathan | but you can also make an openbsd openmoko |
| 00:28.21 | TitanMKD | woo the dev board cost only 99$ |
| 00:28.25 | TitanMKD | very cheap |
| 00:28.33 | leviathan | when you make it boot on smartphones and make it totaly open |
| 00:28.55 | TitanMKD | ok very open |
| 00:29.14 | TitanMKD | and does it support latest kernel 2.6.29 or more ? |
| 00:29.32 | leviathan | yes |
| 00:29.35 | leviathan | 2.6.31 |
| 00:29.40 | TitanMKD | it is interesting for USB 3 ;) |
| 00:29.45 | leviathan | moko is indian and means lizard |
| 00:29.51 | TitanMKD | and wifi is better on latest kernel IIRC ... |
| 00:29.54 | leviathan | better: the lizard go |
| 00:30.00 | leviathan | *lizard-god |
| 00:30.11 | leviathan | means open - moko |
| 00:30.23 | leviathan | the opensource based little lizard |
| 00:30.42 | leviathan | =) |
| 00:30.44 | leviathan | yes |
| 00:30.52 | leviathan | with newest kernel, it will work |
| 00:30.57 | leviathan | atm Im working it out |
| 00:30.58 | TitanMKD | have you a dev board ? |
| 00:31.00 | leviathan | only problem |
| 00:31.04 | leviathan | sound will stay behind |
| 00:31.07 | leviathan | nope |
| 00:31.09 | leviathan | you? |
| 00:31.20 | TitanMKD | no only a Kaiser ;) |
| 00:32.01 | TitanMKD | also a dead Sony P800 ;) |
| 00:32.17 | TitanMKD | but too old and limited for such project |
| 00:32.34 | leviathan | hast 2 freerunners, 1 N810, 1 HTC-Dream G1 and some old palms |
| 00:33.00 | TitanMKD | have you photo of freerunners ? |
| 00:33.04 | TitanMKD | and specification |
| 00:33.04 | leviathan | enough ressources to work with... =) |
| 00:33.17 | leviathan | freerunner? |
| 00:33.31 | TitanMKD | yes |
| 00:33.35 | leviathan | you can download all specifications from the wiki.openmoko.org-page |
| 00:33.41 | leviathan | :) |
| 00:33.47 | leviathan | there are even the schematics online |
| 00:34.05 | leviathan | and all the drivers are in the linux-kernel main tree |
| 00:34.09 | leviathan | like it should be |
| 00:34.12 | TitanMKD | woo 480*640 |
| 00:34.16 | TitanMKD | it is big screen |
| 00:34.18 | leviathan | but like the android people didnt |
| 00:34.25 | leviathan | yes |
| 00:34.36 | leviathan | I love my phone... really |
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| 00:34.46 | leviathan | I survived in the amazonas, thanks to it |
| 00:34.47 | TitanMKD | does it support multi-touch ? |
| 00:34.54 | leviathan | yeahh |
| 00:34.55 | leviathan | :) |
| 00:35.06 | TitanMKD | hehe |
| 00:35.20 | leviathan | you have to hack around to make it available to the software |
| 00:35.27 | leviathan | but its possible to get it running |
| 00:35.39 | TitanMKD | and the Wifi is stable ? |
| 00:35.43 | leviathan | yes |
| 00:35.52 | TitanMKD | ok not like HTC ;) |
| 00:35.57 | leviathan | yes |
| 00:36.11 | leviathan | because the schematics are fully open to anyone |
| 00:36.21 | leviathan | and thanks to harald and mickey |
| 00:36.31 | TitanMKD | very good idea |
| 00:36.36 | TitanMKD | a fully open device |
| 00:36.45 | leviathan | my gods, concerning this project ^^ |
| 00:37.09 | TitanMKD | but such device will never survive in France with provider like Orange, SFR ... |
| 00:37.10 | leviathan | no matter that haralds presentations always have too much text on the beamer part |
| 00:37.13 | leviathan | xD |
| 00:37.16 | TitanMKD | they like only closed phone ... |
| 00:37.27 | leviathan | He'll learn it some day... I'm sure ^_^ |
| 00:37.52 | leviathan | the mostpart always buys closed things |
| 00:38.04 | leviathan | uses it as long as it works and draws it away |
| 00:38.16 | leviathan | but I also want to understand, why I can make phone calls |
| 00:38.25 | leviathan | and why I have such a desktop |
| 00:38.35 | leviathan | and how the images come on the display |
| 00:38.48 | leviathan | because if I dont understand how something works |
| 00:38.53 | TitanMKD | yes it is a very good device for hacker ;) |
| 00:38.56 | leviathan | I'll never able to really trust it |
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| 00:39.28 | leviathan | I'll never able to really trust it if I'm not allowed to look into it |
| 00:39.30 | TitanMKD | i will just like snapdragon @ 1Ghz with 256MB SDRAM ;) |
| 00:39.52 | leviathan | so, the only option for me is OpenMoko |
| 00:39.58 | leviathan | because there is everything free |
| 00:40.06 | leviathan | except the ti-calypso chip |
| 00:40.12 | leviathan | (gsm) |
| 00:40.28 | leviathan | and btw |
| 00:40.31 | TitanMKD | hmm it use USB 1.1 only ? |
| 00:40.53 | leviathan | show my another mobile phone which you can put directly into amazonas and it survives it ;-) |
| 00:41.03 | TitanMKD | hehe yes |
| 00:41.20 | leviathan | okee, my laptop survived it too, but its a toshiba |
| 00:41.31 | leviathan | I alway buy only stable hardware xD |
| 00:41.53 | leviathan | I know why |
| 00:41.55 | TitanMKD | good there's certification for Europe |
| 00:42.17 | TitanMKD | what's the price of such device ? |
| 00:42.37 | leviathan | lets see |
| 00:42.40 | leviathan | ... |
| 00:43.01 | leviathan | http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Neo%20Freerunner&gclid=COL9rvD8rp4CFUJE3godQwR-zg |
| 00:43.24 | TitanMKD | good 300 |
| 00:43.33 | TitanMKD | with debug board offered |
| 00:45.48 | TitanMKD | the good things on Android is application are written on Java |
| 00:46.20 | TitanMKD | and it is very popular language |
| 00:46.29 | TitanMKD | and very easy to develop application |
| 00:47.54 | leviathan | and very brown and closed source friendly apache-linux-userspace |
| 00:48.18 | leviathan | which none of the linux integrations guide lines regarded |
| 00:48.26 | leviathan | *with |
| 00:48.47 | leviathan | and its also very easy to write apps in visual basic |
| 00:48.55 | leviathan | that long no reason to do it... |
| 00:49.10 | leviathan | unless you have to... |
| 00:49.17 | leviathan | but as I said |
| 00:49.33 | leviathan | some things I wouldnt even do, if someone would put a gun in front of my head |
| 00:50.17 | TitanMKD | yes it is true ;) |
| 00:50.48 | leviathan | I prefer to avoid unneeded work |
| 00:50.49 | leviathan | means |
| 00:51.17 | leviathan | try to regard the integration guidlines of linux and the posix standart |
| 00:51.29 | leviathan | and you can avoid a lot of later development work |
| 00:51.40 | leviathan | because you can just make packages of existing desktop apps |
| 00:51.51 | leviathan | and just modify some default window propertis |
| 00:52.19 | leviathan | I mean, Ive got midori on htcdream and my gentoo ws with 4 cores and 8 GB RAM |
| 00:52.25 | leviathan | and its the same feeling of usage |
| 00:52.28 | leviathan | so |
| 00:52.37 | leviathan | I like it more then alway write new apps |
| 00:52.43 | leviathan | because of incompatible libc |
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| 01:03.21 | TitanMKD | hmm it is not the ideal device |
| 01:03.33 | TitanMKD | the Graphic chipset is under NDA :( |
| 01:03.44 | TitanMKD | about 3D acceleration ... |
| 01:07.06 | leviathan | anyway |
| 01:07.10 | leviathan | I need sleep now |
| 01:07.20 | TitanMKD | ok thanks for the informations |
| 01:07.25 | TitanMKD | good night |
| 01:07.31 | TitanMKD | it's late here too |
| 01:07.32 | TitanMKD | bye |
| 01:07.33 | leviathan | youre welcome and thx ^^ |
| 01:07.38 | leviathan | yeah |
| 01:07.40 | leviathan | bye |
| 01:07.43 | leviathan | gn8 |
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| 01:36.13 | kam187 | is there an easy way to run a script on boot in android without modifying the boot partition or /system |
| 01:36.55 | kam187 | i guess i would need to make a signed apk and put it on /data to do it? |
| 01:37.18 | gnutoo | leviathan, I'll go to sleep...btw I've wesnoth on openmoko running again |
| 01:37.43 | gnutoo | there is an iphone version with sources |
| 01:37.57 | gnutoo | it would be nice to take from that and have it on the htcdream |
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| 02:16.17 | tids2k | netripper pong |
| 02:17.44 | tids2k | all leo owners update your rom version to higher or with a different language, thanks to cmonex and vipebjk (jtag) .. look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591239 |
| 02:18.24 | tids2k | leo rom asia 1.48 (asia wwe) is up and ready to be download |
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| 07:06.18 | Pandemic187 | hey, is anybody able to use network location or GPS on a donut build on kaiser or vogue? |
| 07:06.46 | Pandemic187 | or know if that should work? |
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| 12:18.03 | NetRipper | hm |
| 12:18.20 | NetRipper | i should add search functionality to that irclog stuff :P |
| 12:18.37 | phh | would be nice yes :) |
| 12:19.04 | NetRipper | MatBee, you here? |
| 12:28.44 | makkonen | google seems to index it just fine. |
| 12:28.47 | NetRipper | MatBee, could you start the latest haret from www.netripper.com/leo/ on your device? create a file called "earlyharetlog.txt", then start haret, then close haret, and pastebin the haretlog.txt somewhere :) need to check something |
| 12:30.01 | NetRipper | makkonen, ah yes, but just to search for stuff in the last x days.. |
| 12:30.01 | NetRipper | :) |
| 12:30.10 | NetRipper | i mean |
| 12:30.11 | NetRipper | thats my goal :P |
| 12:31.04 | NetRipper | easier to search for a nick and stuff |
| 12:31.34 | makkonen | that'd be nice. pretty sure there's some advanced google-fu you can exercise and get those same results, though. |
| 12:31.49 | NetRipper | maybe |
| 12:39.20 | cr2 | NetRipper: what about enabling early logging without earlyharetlog. by default ? |
| 12:39.57 | cr2 | very nice weather today. need to go out before it's too late :) bbl |
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| 12:43.14 | phh | nice weather uh ? |
| 12:43.23 | phh | i'm not that far and it's not that nice. |
| 12:45.09 | NetRipper | phh, maybe cr2's definition of nice weather is when he can't get sunburned ;) |
| 12:45.19 | phh | oh well. |
| 12:45.41 | phh | for me it's not sunburned nor rain-wetted. |
| 12:45.57 | NetRipper | hehe well its not raining over here |
| 12:45.58 | NetRipper | yet. |
| 12:46.20 | phh | east france, and it's raining |
| 12:46.34 | NetRipper | moving north? |
| 12:46.59 | NetRipper | oh east, then we wont get it probably :p northwestern wind is uncommon |
| 12:47.00 | NetRipper | :) |
| 12:47.25 | NetRipper | we get all the UK crap weather usually |
| 12:47.25 | NetRipper | :) |
| 12:57.09 | leviathan | nice wheater is for me, no freezing |
| 12:57.18 | leviathan | ^^ |
| 12:58.03 | leobaillard | I'm in the south of france right now and it's raining like hell |
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| 13:24.52 | MatBee | NetRipper, will do. |
| 13:26.10 | NetRipper | thanks |
| 13:30.59 | MatBee | http://pastebin.com/m1d1238e3 |
| 13:31.53 | NetRipper | MSM7501A-528MHz |
| 13:31.54 | NetRipper | pff |
| 13:32.12 | NetRipper | why did they have to add the -528MHz to a cpu identifier |
| 13:32.13 | NetRipper | :P |
| 13:32.17 | MatBee | hah |
| 13:33.14 | NetRipper | ah ok you took the latest from my website |
| 13:33.20 | NetRipper | not the matbeez.exe version |
| 13:33.21 | NetRipper | :) |
| 13:33.24 | MatBee | ;D |
| 13:33.27 | MatBee | woops |
| 13:33.29 | NetRipper | oh lol |
| 13:33.29 | NetRipper | nvm |
| 13:33.32 | NetRipper | i asked for it |
| 13:33.35 | NetRipper | doesnt matter i got the info i need |
| 13:33.38 | MatBee | oh ok |
| 13:33.53 | NetRipper | i was just wondering why it didnt recognize the device |
| 13:34.02 | NetRipper | but thats cos im working on another patch for acer s200 now |
| 13:34.14 | NetRipper | reverted the treo changes for the moment |
| 13:34.15 | NetRipper | ) |
| 13:34.16 | NetRipper | :) |
| 13:34.33 | MatBee | oh ok |
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| 14:51.28 | leviathan | gnutoo: hi |
| 14:51.37 | gnutoo | hi |
| 14:51.39 | leviathan | Ive sent you a tarbzip2-file |
| 14:51.43 | gnutoo | ok |
| 14:51.44 | gnutoo | thanks |
| 14:51.50 | leviathan | look on page 64 of 80-VE* |
| 14:51.53 | gnutoo | I'll look |
| 14:51.57 | leviathan | np =) |
| 14:52.18 | leviathan | there you will find a block diagramm of the pcm-interface |
| 14:52.30 | leviathan | perhaps it will help you understand |
| 14:52.49 | gnutoo | I've only the msm-wifi mail |
| 14:53.05 | phh | leviathan: it's dense. |
| 14:53.10 | leviathan | yes |
| 14:53.20 | leviathan | wait a moment |
| 14:53.24 | leviathan | I've got an idea |
| 14:53.26 | leviathan | mom |
| 14:53.48 | phh | but nothing useful for programming an alsa driver i think |
| 14:55.03 | leviathan | http://ftp.o2s.ch/msm-stuff.tar.bz2 |
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| 14:55.12 | leviathan | tell me as soon as you have downloaded it |
| 14:55.17 | leviathan | :) |
| 14:55.21 | gnutoo | ok |
| 14:55.35 | gnutoo | done |
| 14:55.38 | gnutoo | downloaded |
| 14:56.30 | sxe | hey ho, can someone give me the link to the latest zimage and modules packages, cause the forum is down i annot remember the urls |
| 14:56.31 | sxe | thx |
| 14:56.41 | phh | leviathan: you've got something else than 80-VA736-2-MSM7200-SoftwareInterface.pdf and 80-VE263-25-MSM7200A-BasebandTopics.pdf ? |
| 14:57.44 | phh | sxe: no user support here, but as xda is down.. well... http://glemsom.anapnea.net/android/htc-msm-android/ |
| 14:58.04 | sxe | ah ok.. sry for that |
| 14:58.08 | sxe | thx |
| 14:59.48 | gnutoo | lol there is nothing inside |
| 15:00.06 | gnutoo | I mean that there are no values at all |
| 15:00.16 | gnutoo | like for instance the buffer size |
| 15:00.20 | gnutoo | or the buffer count |
| 15:00.27 | gnutoo | that you can get with playwav2 |
| 15:21.50 | leviathan | #define BUFSZ (960 * 5) |
| 15:21.57 | leviathan | is in qdsp5 |
| 15:22.14 | leviathan | hmm... |
| 15:22.25 | leviathan | totaly different device I know |
| 15:22.35 | leviathan | but what was first in the code aura driver? |
| 15:22.54 | leviathan | because theres something written of 2048 mono and 1024 stereo frames |
| 15:28.01 | gnutoo | leviathan, if I remmember well it's in msm7k-pcm.c |
| 15:28.06 | gnutoo | or the 7k version |
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| 15:35.34 | Spirits-Sight | any new development for the kasier? |
| 15:35.45 | |Epsy| | yes |
| 15:36.05 | |Epsy| | but not tested on kaiser |
| 15:36.18 | |Epsy| | the vogue kernel can now use nand |
| 15:36.27 | |Epsy| | working on vogue |
| 15:36.32 | |Epsy| | (its the same kernel) |
| 15:36.39 | Spirits-Sight | where can I find this stuff now? the last stuff I did was on 16, cool |
| 15:36.50 | |Epsy| | git.linuxtogo.org |
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| 15:37.15 | |Epsy| | http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=summary |
| 15:38.02 | |Epsy| | Lots of changes so that vogue can boot from nand and initialise all the hardware correctly. |
| 15:38.02 | |Epsy| | (this may break stuff) |
| 15:38.57 | Spirits-Sight | OK, so do I use the same kernel as vogue still because of all the changes? |
| 15:40.26 | |Epsy| | but i dont think that work on kaiser |
| 15:41.03 | |Epsy| | the new code use direct "dumped" configuration |
| 15:41.43 | |Epsy| | no constants, and i think vogue has not exactly same config as kaiser for nand (not sure) |
| 15:41.54 | Spirits-Sight | OK, where can I find latest for Kasier? also do you know the IRC room for kasier development? |
| 15:42.19 | |Epsy| | not really |
| 15:42.38 | |Epsy| | there is the sf.net mailing list |
| 15:45.03 | Spirits-Sight | thanks |
| 15:46.19 | leviathan | gnutoo: yes, its in msm7k-pcm.(c/h) |
| 15:46.56 | leviathan | what we need is the correct size to store the maximum amount of frames in the buffer |
| 15:47.01 | gnutoo | indeed |
| 15:47.13 | gnutoo | 4800 is the max |
| 15:47.15 | gnutoo | I think |
| 15:47.21 | gnutoo | but if you put 4800 to max |
| 15:47.27 | gnutoo | aplay doesn't work anymore |
| 15:47.35 | gnutoo | 4800 is because of the loop |
| 15:47.50 | gnutoo | anyway playwav2 get 4800 |
| 15:48.12 | gnutoo | but after you've got an issue with the frames consumed that it reports |
| 15:48.20 | gnutoo | and so you do >= instead of > |
| 15:48.22 | gnutoo | and it crash |
| 15:49.43 | leviathan | lets see... we have 1024 frames à |
| 15:49.43 | leviathan | #define FRAME_SIZE (2052 * 2) |
| 15:50.27 | leviathan | 4800 wont be it |
| 15:50.37 | leviathan | because its not a multiple of the framesize |
| 15:50.48 | leviathan | and we need space to save a frame in it |
| 15:50.55 | leviathan | +command |
| 15:52.52 | leviathan | look into sound/usb/caiaq/caiaq-audio.c |
| 15:53.02 | leviathan | there we have MAX_BUFFER_SIZE too |
| 15:53.19 | leviathan | there its the size of a frame multiplied with its max-count |
| 15:53.42 | leviathan | so in our case, the buffer will be much greater, then you've set it |
| 15:54.49 | leviathan | because aplay needs space for (2048 frames à (2052 * 2)) |
| 15:54.54 | leviathan | you can calc |
| 15:54.56 | leviathan | ^^ |
| 15:55.16 | leviathan | or just taking one frame into buffer at time |
| 15:55.20 | leviathan | but then |
| 15:55.27 | leviathan | you dont have 4800 |
| 15:55.44 | leviathan | but 4104 |
| 15:55.51 | leviathan | strange numbers... |
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| 15:56.28 | leviathan | basically we have to make not one static number there |
| 15:56.39 | leviathan | but a calculation of already defined statics |
| 15:57.08 | leviathan | I'll test around |
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| 16:17.54 | gnutoo | leviathan, ok I read |
| 16:18.32 | gnutoo | leviathan, ok I downgraded the perod size too btw |
| 16:18.37 | gnutoo | I'll try |
| 16:27.43 | leviathan | ok |
| 16:36.22 | gnutoo | wow!!! it doesn't work but... |
| 16:36.36 | gnutoo | it plays everything too fast |
| 16:36.41 | gnutoo | I'll try to remove the >= |
| 16:36.46 | gnutoo | if it's there |
| 16:37.28 | gnutoo | ah no it's > |
| 16:38.28 | gnutoo | leviathan, maybe I should do oe stuff and you should do alsa? what do you think? |
| 16:38.42 | gnutoo | leviathan, are you good at debugging? |
| 16:39.18 | leviathan | I worked in a bank and did three months nothing else then this -.- |
| 16:39.21 | leviathan | ... yes |
| 16:39.31 | gnutoo | ah no sorry |
| 16:39.37 | gnutoo | It was in /dev/mplayer |
| 16:39.38 | leviathan | I've even already solded |
| 16:39.39 | gnutoo | mode |
| 16:39.43 | leviathan | oh |
| 16:39.53 | gnutoo | so sorry |
| 16:40.00 | leviathan | you have a mplayer mode? |
| 16:40.05 | gnutoo | no |
| 16:40.15 | gnutoo | I'll explain with scripts |
| 16:40.38 | leviathan | oh, k |
| 16:40.39 | leviathan | ^^ |
| 16:40.54 | gnutoo | ao=pcm:file=/dev/mplayer is in /usr/etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf |
| 16:41.37 | gnutoo | mkfifo /dev/mplayer + aplay /dev/mplayer & |
| 16:41.46 | gnutoo | get the fifo out |
| 16:49.39 | gnutoo | leviathan, do you have an idea on what "if (prtd->pcm_irq_pos >= prtd->pcm_size){prtd->pcm_irq_pos = prtd->pcm_count;}" do exactly.... |
| 16:49.40 | gnutoo | ? |
| 16:49.49 | gnutoo | s/>=/> |
| 16:52.11 | gnutoo | I'm interested in pcm_irq_pos and pcm_size |
| 16:52.26 | gnutoo | I don't remember what is pcm_size |
| 16:52.30 | gnutoo | I should look |
| 16:52.36 | gnutoo | ah I remmber |
| 16:52.43 | gnutoo | it's the frame_to_bytes |
| 16:52.44 | leviathan | ok I found the answer on an assembler page |
| 16:52.52 | leviathan | for drawing sprites on a display |
| 16:53.00 | leviathan | http://codebase64.org/doku.php?id=base:sprite_multiplexer |
| 16:53.07 | leviathan | seems to be the same technique |
| 16:53.25 | leviathan | your splitting up your sound in multiple irqs |
| 16:53.46 | leviathan | and every prozess for getting dac working |
| 16:53.54 | leviathan | are working simultanously |
| 16:53.58 | gnutoo | ah ok |
| 16:54.00 | gnutoo | thanks a lot |
| 16:54.52 | leviathan | this makes it for me more difficult to trace ... >_< |
| 16:55.00 | leviathan | anyway... |
| 16:55.08 | leviathan | smoking... |
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| 17:16.19 | gnutoo | mmm my period size is wrong |
| 17:16.45 | MatBee | i hear birth control helps regulate it |
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| 17:40.05 | leviathan | re |
| 17:40.17 | leviathan | MatBee: lol |
| 17:40.33 | leviathan | or a mutated form of swin flu |
| 17:41.10 | leviathan | or a virus would be nice which stops the wish for copulating at all in the human population |
| 17:41.18 | leviathan | that would solve a lot of problems |
| 17:41.32 | leviathan | mainly the one of having not enough time |
| 17:41.33 | leviathan | xD |
| 17:42.02 | leviathan | which would lead to a much more relaxed working atmosphere in offices |
| 17:42.07 | leviathan | and business at all |
| 17:42.21 | leviathan | because anyone has more time to do his things |
| 17:42.51 | leviathan | and you can any gender in a team together without fearing that theyll loose theire productivity |
| 17:43.06 | leviathan | which would make human beeings to a much better working ressource |
| 17:43.08 | leviathan | ^^ |
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| 17:44.41 | Pandemic187 | can somebody tell me what causes the error "failed to mount /data" |
| 17:44.43 | Pandemic187 | ? |
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| 17:57.27 | Pandemic187 | ok then... |
| 18:00.28 | MatBee | hmm |
| 18:01.29 | MatBee | leviathan, i like copulation... so... lets just make 50% of the worlds population infertile |
| 18:01.45 | gnutoo | leviathan, did you read the pdf on writing an alsa driver? |
| 18:01.51 | leviathan | yes |
| 18:02.01 | gnutoo | ok did you read that part: |
| 18:02.12 | gnutoo | High frequency timer interrupts |
| 18:02.33 | MatBee | time to pick up smores and condoms for tonights late-night copulation |
| 18:02.43 | gnutoo | + that we're in a callback |
| 18:03.03 | gnutoo | + that the code is for noticing when the DSP finished to consume the frame |
| 18:03.08 | gnutoo | or the audio or whatever |
| 18:03.36 | tpruvot | is there a channel for wince rom cookers ? |
| 18:04.07 | gnutoo | makes me think that pcm_irq_pos is the position reported by the SDP |
| 18:04.12 | gnutoo | *DSP |
| 18:04.19 | gnutoo | so |
| 18:04.58 | gnutoo | if dsp_position > period_size{do_something} |
| 18:05.09 | gnutoo | mmm |
| 18:06.46 | gnutoo | moreover there is that comment: /* over the period boundary? */ |
| 18:06.51 | gnutoo | in the pdf |
| 18:07.33 | gnutoo | so...I think it reset it to something ok |
| 18:08.54 | leviathan | yes |
| 18:09.25 | leviathan | it jumps to another position |
| 18:09.34 | gnutoo | (sometime google is not usefull) |
| 18:09.46 | gnutoo | if (prtd->out[idx].used != BUF_INVALID_LEN)prtd->pcm_irq_pos += prtd->out[idx].used; is the code we should look at |
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| 18:12.40 | gnutoo | leviathan, what do you mean by jusp to another position? |
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| 18:17.00 | leviathan | gnutoo: means that it changes position to another dsp-working-peace, as soon as the other has finished |
| 18:17.20 | gnutoo | mmm |
| 18:18.23 | gnutoo | the if (prtd->out[idx].used != BUF_INVALID_LEN){prtd->pcm_irq_pos += prtd->out[idx].used;} does that |
| 18:18.48 | gnutoo | not the if (prtd->pcm_irq_pos > prtd->pcm_size){prtd->pcm_irq_pos = prtd->pcm_count;} |
| 18:18.57 | gnutoo | the second one is only a check |
| 18:20.24 | leviathan | yes |
| 18:20.29 | leviathan | i now |
| 18:20.34 | leviathan | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:20.46 | leviathan | as long as it is not invalid |
| 18:21.00 | leviathan | the loop will execute the iteration |
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| 18:27.20 | Pandemic187 | xda site is down... |
| 18:27.34 | phh | happens a lot nowadays |
| 18:27.41 | Pandemic187 | the forums anyway |
| 18:28.33 | phh | xda is nothing else than the forum :p |
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| 18:45.14 | Pandemic188 | true phh but you can actually get to the site index |
| 19:08.29 | Jos | still down :/ |
| 19:24.04 | Spirits-Sight | any one know of the IRC for kaiser android stuff? also does anyone know if there has been any development for the kasier? and if so where can I download the kernel / image / system? |
| 19:24.47 | phh | Jos: you really can't live without it ? :p |
| 19:25.07 | Jos | XDA-Developers complements my life |
| 19:30.30 | MatBee | xda's excessive downtime makes me angry ;D |
| 19:34.48 | MatBee | I cant find any damn smore kits |
| 19:34.51 | MatBee | brrhhahhh |
| 19:34.56 | MatBee | must. find. smores. |
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| 20:51.44 | tpruvot | what are the benefices of changing page pool in WM6.1 ? (for exemlpe from 0x80 0000 to 0x40 0000) |
| 20:52.11 | tpruvot | i ve read its automatic in wm6 compared to wm5 |
| 20:52.17 | tpruvot | on msdn |
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| 21:26.57 | NetRipper | there are some articles on page pool on xda-devs forums |
| 21:27.05 | NetRipper | tpruvot, you could check there |
| 21:27.21 | NetRipper | tpruvot, afaik page pool can be automatic in wm6, but most roms have a static page pool |
| 21:27.26 | NetRipper | roms by htc etc |
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| 21:29.45 | rafyvitto | netripper you there? |
| 21:32.48 | NetRipper | yes |
| 21:33.00 | NetRipper | does haret work? |
| 21:35.21 | cr2 | NetRipper: could you trace the DEX data ? |
| 21:36.19 | NetRipper | yes it worked |
| 21:36.36 | NetRipper | mmutrace worked i mean |
| 21:36.42 | NetRipper | i didnt trace anything specific |
| 21:36.52 | NetRipper | using the spl address |
| 21:36.59 | cr2 | spl ? |
| 21:37.19 | NetRipper | yes, the p2v() on thep hysical address didnt work |
| 21:37.32 | NetRipper | but using the virtual spl address the trace worked |
| 21:37.47 | cr2 | what does p2v() report ? |
| 21:37.55 | NetRipper | umm dunno cant check right now |
| 21:38.08 | NetRipper | you konw in the leo memory map you have physical and spl addresses |
| 21:38.26 | cr2 | ok |
| 21:38.38 | NetRipper | you put it there yourself lol |
| 21:41.52 | cr2 | did you find more gpios ? |
| 21:42.03 | NetRipper | yes i think one is wrong |
| 21:42.05 | NetRipper | and i found bright led |
| 21:42.21 | NetRipper | the normal led one is one off i think |
| 21:43.28 | NetRipper | 23:26 NetRipper cr2, you have flash_EN=1 on gpio 160, but i think it's 159 (out7-6) according to haret |
| 21:43.32 | NetRipper | 23:27 NetRipper cr2, and i found flash_bright_EN=1 on gpio 143 (out6-21), added that to wiki |
| 21:46.45 | cr2 | flash as in flashlight ? |
| 21:46.59 | cr2 | my flash_EN is for nand afair |
| 21:47.12 | NetRipper | uhhh |
| 21:47.16 | NetRipper | can you change the name in that case? :P |
| 21:47.25 | NetRipper | or add that to the description:) |
| 21:47.28 | cr2 | this gpio does something related to NAND |
| 21:47.49 | NetRipper | glad i didnt test that then |
| 21:47.50 | cr2 | rename to NAND_EN |
| 21:47.57 | cr2 | lol |
| 21:48.48 | cr2 | do you get the expected irqs ? |
| 21:48.52 | NetRipper | yes |
| 21:48.56 | NetRipper | at least the few i did get |
| 21:48.57 | cr2 | like uart2dm and adsp_a11 |
| 21:49.05 | cr2 | they were different on g1 |
| 21:49.12 | NetRipper | oh |
| 21:49.19 | cr2 | on playing sound, and enabling BT |
| 21:49.19 | NetRipper | at least i got USBHS |
| 21:49.34 | gnutoo | leviathan, there are 2 things to try: |
| 21:50.08 | gnutoo | *remove the bogus first frame like this: if (prtd->out[prtd->out_tail].used != BUF_INVALID_LEN ){ } |
| 21:50.19 | gnutoo | or something similar to this idea |
| 21:50.27 | gnutoo | *move that : |
| 21:50.45 | gnutoo | snd_pcm_period_elapsed( |
| 21:50.54 | gnutoo | what do you think? |
| 21:51.13 | leviathan | hmm |
| 21:51.22 | leviathan | yes, could work |
| 21:51.37 | leviathan | because that could be the reason, why mplayer hangs |
| 21:51.42 | leviathan | not the buffer size |
| 21:51.53 | leviathan | perhaps its just some wider range effect |
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| 21:52.10 | leviathan | and mplayer just sends a malformed frame |
| 21:52.33 | gnutoo | first it hangs because of what I explined in the first mail |
| 21:52.52 | gnutoo | then it hangs because it expects buffer to be consumed....that is not a hang but rather a loop |
| 21:53.23 | gnutoo | snd_pcm_period_elapsed can only fix the second issue |
| 21:54.50 | leviathan | yes |
| 21:54.57 | leviathan | I see |
| 21:55.09 | leviathan | but lets see, what happens, if it stops hanging |
| 21:55.16 | leviathan | either there comes a segfault |
| 21:55.22 | leviathan | or it gives sound |
| 21:55.25 | leviathan | =) |
| 21:55.29 | leviathan | no risk, no fun |
| 21:56.57 | NetRipper | cr2, lots of M2A_0 and ADSP_A11 interrupts while playing sound |
| 21:57.11 | NetRipper | bit of MDP as well, and ADM_AARM |
| 21:58.19 | NetRipper | when i touch the screen i get a GRAPHICS interrupt and quite a lot MDP |
| 22:01.34 | rafyvitto | yes it does |
| 22:01.37 | rafyvitto | i have the haret log |
| 22:01.42 | rafyvitto | want me to paste bin it? |
| 22:02.15 | cr2 | NetRipper: are the names the same for 8650 ? |
| 22:02.55 | rafyvitto | http://www.mediafire.com/?wmgmmhjmtnd |
| 22:03.02 | NetRipper | cr2, seems so |
| 22:03.04 | rafyvitto | heres the haret log from my acer neotouch |
| 22:03.20 | NetRipper | rafyvitto, thanks i'll look at it in a bit |
| 22:03.26 | NetRipper | playing a game as well :P war! |
| 22:03.26 | NetRipper | :) |
| 22:03.28 | rafyvitto | alright |
| 22:03.39 | rafyvitto | glad i could help |
| 22:03.40 | cr2 | NetRipper: check for uart2dm |
| 22:03.41 | rafyvitto | =] |
| 22:07.55 | rafyvitto | got your xda pm now |
| 22:08.03 | rafyvitto | will test it out tonight |
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| 22:10.32 | rafyvitto | yep it detects the machine correctly |
| 22:10.36 | rafyvitto | acer-s200 |
| 22:11.22 | NetRipper | good :) |
| 22:11.44 | NetRipper | ah yea i already had that haretlog |
| 22:11.44 | NetRipper | ) |
| 22:11.46 | NetRipper | :) |
| 22:12.21 | rafyvitto | if i want to telnet i ahve to use a linux box right |
| 22:12.44 | NetRipper | no you can use telnet |
| 22:12.47 | NetRipper | port 9999 |
| 22:12.52 | rafyvitto | alright |
| 22:19.07 | rafyvitto | alright? |
| 22:19.17 | rafyvitto | >< |
| 22:19.30 | NetRipper | :) |
| 22:19.36 | NetRipper | you have to click 'listen for connection' in haret |
| 22:19.45 | rafyvitto | could not connect to the host |
| 22:19.55 | rafyvitto | i specified "o 9999" |
| 22:20.05 | rafyvitto | using telnet from vista btw |
| 22:20.08 | NetRipper | yes |
| 22:20.16 | NetRipper | start haret -> click the 'listen for connection' button |
| 22:20.19 | leviathan | gnutoo: did it work out? |
| 22:20.28 | rafyvitto | its listening |
| 22:20.31 | NetRipper | then from vista, telnet 169.254.2.1 9999 (if connected via activesync) |
| 22:20.46 | rafyvitto | ok |
| 22:21.14 | NetRipper | http://www.netripper.com/raphael/HaretconsolePackageForWin.zip here's a haretconsole package for windows if you prefer |
| 22:21.25 | NetRipper | it's basically same as telnet, but has a few extra features |
| 22:21.35 | rafyvitto | ok gonna use that one then |
| 22:21.35 | NetRipper | such as automatically translating IRQ numbers to names |
| 22:22.03 | gnutoo | leviathan, my rootfs broke again (kernel pannic) |
| 22:22.13 | NetRipper | but this haretconsole is a little bit outdated, so you have to get this haretconsole as well (http://www.netripper.com/leo/haretconsole-pre-0.5.3-20091129_135434.tar.gz) and overwrite the proper contents |
| 22:22.18 | NetRipper | :) |
| 22:22.19 | gnutoo | leviathan, so I'm reinstalling my image |
| 22:22.35 | rafyvitto | hmm will it affect if im connected through a router? |
| 22:23.29 | NetRipper | activesync is a local connection |
| 22:23.40 | NetRipper | it doesnt matter how you connec tto your phone |
| 22:23.46 | NetRipper | if your phone ison wifi, then you can use the wifi ip |
| 22:24.01 | NetRipper | you'd have to find out which ip it got from your network though |
| 22:24.10 | rafyvitto | yeh im on active sync |
| 22:24.25 | NetRipper | then its 169.254.2.1 |
| 22:25.23 | rafyvitto | ok haretconsole says: socket error... |
| 22:25.45 | rafyvitto | host has fail to respond... |
| 22:26.46 | NetRipper | then either the ip is not correct, or haret is not listening |
| 22:26.56 | NetRipper | can't help you with that |
| 22:27.13 | rafyvitto | well haret says 'waiting for connection" |
| 22:27.36 | NetRipper | then i suppose the ip is incorrect? |
| 22:27.40 | NetRipper | try pinging it |
| 22:27.47 | rafyvitto | alright |
| 22:28.38 | rafyvitto | yeah wrong ip destination host unrechable |
| 22:29.02 | NetRipper | are you really sure you're connected with activesync? :P |
| 22:29.13 | rafyvitto | yeap =] |
| 22:29.17 | NetRipper | and not 'disk drive' mode or something |
| 22:29.21 | rafyvitto | well windows mobile device center vista variant |
| 22:29.23 | rafyvitto | xD |
| 22:29.31 | NetRipper | well then try and figure out another way to connect ;) |
| 22:29.34 | NetRipper | try ipconfig in vista |
| 22:29.44 | NetRipper | maybe it gets something else instead of 169.254.2.1 |
| 22:30.12 | rafyvitto | 192.168.1.101 |
| 22:30.42 | NetRipper | thats your own local ip probably |
| 22:30.48 | NetRipper | you should have another interface |
| 22:30.52 | leviathan | gnutoo: ok, let me know, as soon as you have got sound running with mplayer and aplay ^^ |
| 22:30.55 | leviathan | joke |
| 22:30.58 | rafyvitto | yeah the one that my router gives me |
| 22:31.00 | leviathan | inform me about anything |
| 22:31.17 | leviathan | I'll do a little homework for tomorrow in this time |
| 22:31.40 | gnutoo | ok |
| 22:32.49 | rafyvitto | hmm il try with wifi |
| 22:35.39 | rafyvitto | wait i know whats wrong |
| 22:36.03 | rafyvitto | i have network function turn off on my acer |
| 22:36.04 | rafyvitto | lol |
| 22:36.30 | rafyvitto | advanced network functionality.. |
| 22:38.47 | rafyvitto | got it |
| 22:38.49 | rafyvitto | =] |
| 22:39.08 | NetRipper | good |
| 22:39.08 | NetRipper | :) |
| 22:39.25 | rafyvitto | wirq 5 |
| 22:39.31 | rafyvitto | bunch of stuff going on |
| 22:39.32 | rafyvitto | xD |
| 22:39.34 | NetRipper | good |
| 22:39.40 | NetRipper | watch gpios 5? |
| 22:40.08 | rafyvitto | even more stuff going on |
| 22:40.12 | NetRipper | alright |
| 22:40.26 | NetRipper | same addresses then |
| 22:40.29 | rafyvitto | thats a good sing right |
| 22:40.30 | rafyvitto | xD |
| 22:40.33 | NetRipper | yes |
| 22:40.46 | NetRipper | means haret is working correctly |
| 22:40.50 | rafyvitto | =] |
| 22:40.54 | NetRipper | rest is up to you =) |
| 22:41.21 | Captnoord | re |
| 22:41.41 | NetRipper | hi captain |
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| 22:41.59 | rafyvitto | to someone else, my linux developments skills are the same as 1 year old speech skills=none xD |
| 22:42.24 | NetRipper | i konw 1 year old kids that can say words though |
| 22:42.25 | NetRipper | :P |
| 22:43.21 | rafyvitto | =] |
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| 22:44.04 | rafyvitto | il tell harshal about this, he has more knowledge regarding linux than me |
| 22:45.15 | gnutoo | mmm |
| 22:45.24 | Captnoord | rafyvitto: never begin and you won't have any.... :P |
| 22:45.35 | gnutoo | it reboots after playing for half a second |
| 22:46.01 | gnutoo | (kernel panick ) |
| 22:46.12 | gnutoo | s/panick/panic |
| 22:46.28 | AstainHellbring | hey there NetRipper |
| 22:46.34 | NetRipper | heya astain |
| 22:46.40 | AstainHellbring | how goes it? |
| 22:46.48 | NetRipper | rafyvitto, harshal? |
| 22:47.05 | NetRipper | AstainHellbring, qsd8xxx support is added to haret |
| 22:47.17 | AstainHellbring | qsd8xxx? |
| 22:47.22 | NetRipper | snapdragon |
| 22:47.31 | gnutoo | it has something to do with SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_STATUS |
| 22:47.58 | AstainHellbring | ahh ic NetRipper nice |
| 22:47.59 | MatBee | hmm |
| 22:48.15 | gnutoo | leviathan, ^^^ |
| 22:48.36 | AstainHellbring | NetRipper love your hd2? |
| 22:48.57 | rafyvitto | yeh me and him are working on custom rom for the acer s200 |
| 22:49.10 | rafyvitto | roms* |
| 22:50.02 | rafyvitto | we have manila 2.5 98% working |
| 22:50.49 | AstainHellbring | meh 2.5 isnt that great |
| 22:50.56 | rafyvitto | besides the hd2, the acer is the second device running manila 2.5 on another snapdragon cpu |
| 22:51.22 | AstainHellbring | ahh s200 is snapdragon |
| 22:51.30 | AstainHellbring | is it 1ghz as well? |
| 22:51.36 | rafyvitto | yepers |
| 22:51.38 | rafyvitto | =] |
| 22:52.12 | rafyvitto | the only thing we dont have currently working is the landscape modes of the musci and pictures tab, we need the gsensor apis from acer... |
| 22:52.14 | MatBee | sexcellent news, treo pro support added to the htc-msm-android kernel |
| 22:52.15 | MatBee | <3 |
| 22:52.18 | rafyvitto | which they havent release yet |
| 22:52.27 | AstainHellbring | nice MatBee |
| 22:52.39 | AstainHellbring | hey MatBee tried your roms out a bit |
| 22:52.45 | MatBee | oh? |
| 22:52.46 | AstainHellbring | not bad |
| 22:52.51 | MatBee | yeah, they work |
| 22:52.52 | AstainHellbring | my wife just got a treo pro |
| 22:53.18 | MatBee | I'm trying to get other people cookin, doesn't look like it's going to happen ;) |
| 22:53.38 | NetRipper | AstainHellbring, yes lovin it :) |
| 22:53.48 | AstainHellbring | I've been tempted to start it a bit |
| 22:53.56 | AstainHellbring | the rom I have currently has an odd bug |
| 22:54.21 | MatBee | Shit, im making it easy and still nobody is steppin up, lol. All they have to do is extract it to their kitchen. |
| 22:54.52 | AstainHellbring | yep true since nightraven released his kitchen |
| 22:54.57 | MatBee | and im bored of roms now, i need to do something more interesting like linux/droid |
| 22:55.05 | NetRipper | which treo AstainHellbring ? |
| 22:55.10 | AstainHellbring | ever had the bug where it will only charge via usb connected to pc |
| 22:55.18 | AstainHellbring | NetRipper treo pro aka 850 cdma version |
| 22:55.18 | MatBee | nope, never |
| 22:55.26 | MatBee | NetRipper, same as mine |
| 22:55.43 | NetRipper | MatBee, ah |
| 22:55.51 | NetRipper | AstainHellbring, then haret will soon support your device too |
| 22:55.51 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 22:55.58 | AstainHellbring | nice NetRipper |
| 22:56.08 | MatBee | gets a hardon |
| 22:56.25 | NetRipper | MatBee, wirq and watch gpios already worked didnt they? in that testversion i sent you |
| 22:56.30 | MatBee | yep |
| 22:56.32 | NetRipper | good |
| 22:57.20 | AstainHellbring | then the problem comes in when you have to start hacking in support for it ;) |
| 22:57.38 | MatBee | meh, a handful of devices already have this hardware |
| 22:57.55 | AstainHellbring | true but how many have the front keyboard and the 320x320 screen |
| 22:57.57 | MatBee | thanks to htc building this palm |
| 22:58.19 | MatBee | Yeah, we have to use 320x319 in droid ;P |
| 22:58.54 | AstainHellbring | 320x319? |
| 22:58.59 | MatBee | yep, landscape |
| 22:59.09 | MatBee | android doesnt support square |
| 22:59.20 | AstainHellbring | lol |
| 22:59.21 | AstainHellbring | nice |
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| 23:00.31 | AstainHellbring | so dropping one row of pixels will make it happy huh |
| 23:00.38 | MatBee | yeah |
| 23:02.37 | MatBee | oh geez, did you see the struggles with me and making gsm roms? |
| 23:02.39 | MatBee | lol |
| 23:02.55 | MatBee | i had to blindly build and hope for the best, just so gsm got a little lovin' |
| 23:02.56 | AstainHellbring | no didnt see that had some major issues? |
| 23:03.20 | MatBee | well what i thought was a big issue with my roms, turns out only a few select people had the issue |
| 23:03.29 | MatBee | it was a SIM card problem and 3G lockups |
| 23:03.40 | AstainHellbring | wierd |
| 23:03.59 | NetRipper | MatBee, do you know if that treo also comes as GSM variant next to CDMA? |
| 23:04.05 | MatBee | yeah it does |
| 23:04.15 | NetRipper | ok |
| 23:04.21 | NetRipper | same type number? |
| 23:04.24 | NetRipper | or does it differ |
| 23:04.31 | MatBee | im not sure if its 7501A, i think its 7201 like the touch |
| 23:04.32 | AstainHellbring | guessing its 7200 vs 7500 again? |
| 23:04.37 | NetRipper | yes but i mean type-like |
| 23:04.46 | NetRipper | is it also 850e CDMA and 850e GSM or another type? |
| 23:05.05 | MatBee | ohoh yeah its the same type, afaik |
| 23:05.10 | NetRipper | or will it be like 850d for GSM or whatever |
| 23:05.11 | NetRipper | :) |
| 23:05.16 | MatBee | no its 850e |
| 23:05.20 | NetRipper | ok |
| 23:05.22 | rafyvitto | oh wow i dint know the acer m900 was added to htc-linux |
| 23:05.25 | rafyvitto | amazing |
| 23:05.44 | rafyvitto | who bought that device? |
| 23:05.55 | NetRipper | dont ask me :) |
| 23:06.09 | NetRipper | MatBee, im asking because there'll need to be an mtype for GSM and for CDMA then ;) |
| 23:06.15 | MatBee | hmm |
| 23:06.31 | AstainHellbring | treo pro sure runs sbp mobile shell nicely though |
| 23:06.34 | NetRipper | for HTC we've been using like HTCRAPHAEL for gsm and HTCRAPHAEL_CDMA for the cdma |
| 23:07.22 | MatBee | ah so like, PALMPRO_CMDA |
| 23:07.30 | NetRipper | yes |
| 23:07.58 | NetRipper | i was thinking TREO850E_CDMA though |
| 23:07.59 | NetRipper | :P |
| 23:08.03 | NetRipper | but doesnt really matter |
| 23:08.03 | MatBee | same shit |
| 23:08.07 | NetRipper | as long as there's an mtype |
| 23:08.17 | NetRipper | anyway im off to bed now |
| 23:08.22 | NetRipper | nite lads |
| 23:08.27 | MatBee | see ya |
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| 23:28.02 | phh | <MatBee> sexcellent news, treo pro support added to the htc-msm-android kernel <--- you tried it ? I have no such phone so i did the patch blindly |
| 23:28.16 | MatBee | no, not yet |
| 23:28.24 | phh | ok |
| 23:28.31 | MatBee | still doing preliminary research |
| 23:28.48 | phh | i don't think i'm such a god, so report the issues |
| 23:28.58 | MatBee | Will do. |
| 23:41.33 | gnutoo | leviathan, I'll go but with 4800 it starts playing for a quarter of second then loop on the status |
| 23:42.00 | leviathan | uhh, ohh |
| 23:42.09 | leviathan | bad |
| 23:42.21 | leviathan | thats without the framecheck? |
| 23:42.32 | leviathan | but its the same for aplay and mplayer? |
| 23:42.58 | leviathan | because, thats the first step to a unified driver |
| 23:45.55 | gnutoo | leviathan, with mplayer and with the framecheck |
| 23:46.05 | leviathan | oh |
| 23:46.08 | leviathan | and with aplay? |
| 23:46.12 | gnutoo | didn't test |
| 23:46.17 | gnutoo | roughly: |
| 23:46.18 | leviathan | test it =) |
| 23:46.24 | leviathan | because |
| 23:46.25 | gnutoo | *4800 prevent the kenrel pannick |
| 23:46.42 | leviathan | first step is to get same reactions from aplay AND mplayer |
| 23:46.50 | gnutoo | *the check makes mplayer play for 1/2 sec and crash |
| 23:46.51 | leviathan | second step is to get it running for both |
| 23:46.59 | gnutoo | I'll sleep now |
| 23:47.04 | leviathan | ok |
| 23:47.12 | leviathan | ill try around tomorrow evening |
| 23:47.17 | leviathan | after lectures |
| 23:47.28 | leviathan | now I'll have to finish linear algebra -_- |
| 23:47.37 | gnutoo | ok do you want my patches? |
| 23:48.01 | gnutoo | because I realy have to go |
| 23:51.25 | gnutoo | I'll go bye |