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00:12.17tmztNetRipper: are you using cegcc?
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01:03.45Kevin2tmzt: What problem are you having?  I haven't made any recent changes to haret.
01:06.21Kevin2NetRipper: I make all changes to cvs and then clone to git.  I just resynched the git tree (it was not up to date).  The plan was to make the git tree the master and retire cvs.  At cr2's request, I created a haret project on linuxtogo, but no one joined it.  :-(
01:12.00ToAsTok... my be someone here can give me a link?! it seems to be black magic to build a android rom. i got a hero and wanna give it a shot. im all set up for it machine wise. but cant seem to find a resource or tutoria on this. ive built them for the diamond. but im not sure about the whole rom zip ordeal. can someone point me in the right dirrection?
01:13.41ToAsTor is it really black magic?!
01:23.11ToAsThmmm......
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03:42.34coldcoffecan any1 help me with setting up Android on HTC Touch Diamond2?
03:43.12coldcoffe!
03:43.15coldcoffe!msg
03:43.18coldcoffe?
03:44.51coldcoffeis ne1 talking abt nething in here?
03:45.51F22coldcoffe:  the Diamond2, aka Topaz, has a port in progress, but last i heard the lcd wasn't yet functional.
03:46.05coldcoffehmmm
03:46.15coldcoffethanks F22
03:46.23F22cr2 is the main developer working on it currently.
03:46.37coldcoffehmm....
03:47.00coldcoffethanks a lot for the info
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04:30.25Pandemic187hey, i have an off-topic question.
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08:50.40NetRippertmzt, yes, mingw32ce
08:51.04NetRipperbut i think not the most recent release, as i had trouble building
08:51.28NetRipperso i went back to a version i already had on disk
08:55.27NetRipperKevin2, im using the git atm.. i could sign up for my small contributions.. didn't so far as i like it when someone experience reviews it first ;)
08:55.56NetRipperim not too familiar in the asm or low level world
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09:24.34mickey|officewhat do you guys think about merging the replicant tree w/ mobile-linux?
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09:29.22tmztwhat tree?
09:30.40tmztmickey|office: haven't been able to test that modem thing
09:31.09mickey|officereplicant tree
09:31.18tmztwas getting gsm phone to free up my cdma phone
09:31.21mickey|officelet me dig out the uri
09:31.26tmztbut no im card yet
09:31.28tmztsim
09:31.39mickey|officehttp://gitorious.com/replicant?page=7
09:31.47mickey|officeseems there's some duplicated work ongoing
09:31.54mickey|officenow we have >= 3 trees
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09:32.04mickey|officefrom which shall i build our images? :/
09:32.28tmztah
09:32.45tmzthow divergent is it?
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09:45.14mickey|officei have no idea, someone w/ kernel experience needs to review that
09:45.18mickey|officeleviathan could probably help
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10:34.22YandzeeeДобрый день!
10:35.09YandzeeeЕсть порт андроида на кристал 2?
10:36.10mickey|officenah
10:36.21YandzeeeЧего?
10:36.38YandzeeeМои символы нормально отображаются
10:36.40Yandzeee?
10:36.53Yandzeeeayyyyyyyy
10:37.00Yandzeee?
10:37.15YandzeeeKakaya tyt kodirovka?
10:37.33Yandzeeeа
10:37.50Yandzeeenarod?mojete otvetit'?
10:39.05Yandzeeekakaya tyt kodirovka?
10:39.29YandzeeeДа еп вашу мать, вы че бля оглохли
10:39.45YandzeeeАУУУУУУУУУУУУУУУУУУУУУУУУУУ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10:42.16Yandzeeenarod
10:42.28Captnoordhmmm
10:42.30Captnoordnou dat vind ik ook
10:42.56Yandzeeewhere are you from?
10:43.15Yandzeeewhat is a channel?
10:44.40Captnoordi'm from the netherlands and what do you mean by that?
10:47.55Yandzeeeandroid os on htc diamond 2?
10:48.59Captnoordnope.....
10:49.03Captnoordnot for a long shot
10:49.12Captnoordwe'r porting linux
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10:49.13Captnoordnot android
10:53.55mickey|office:)
10:55.04Captnoordmickey|office: just giving him a run for his money....... I wonder using a translator he is ( yoda lolz )
10:55.41mickey|officehehe
11:05.52leviathantmzt: leviathan-branch has sound, wifi and all other patches included
11:06.56mickey|officehmm, i should try that on my raphael
11:07.55Yandzeeeandroid -  linux kernel
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12:09.11NetRipper:)
12:09.39NetRipperwhere's that cr2 dude :p
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14:56.34thomasvumhello
14:57.13thomasvumim not sure if im in the right place.... can I ask a end-user question for my htc hero?
15:03.55CaptnoordI don't think your in the right place... but it never hurts to ask...
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15:51.15thomasvumback again, surry
15:51.19thomasvumsorry
15:54.36thomasvumI have a file in my sd card. its an kml file in a subdirectory. now I like to attah this file to an email. but when edit a new email and try to attach that file, it only let me attach picture/video/audio/pdf/office doc/place/create new
15:54.51thomasvumI cant browse and select any of it....
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17:05.57Guest80564http://www.ppcpro.fr/files/ee6cac3e719951ba4fe4479344d1836d-60.html
17:06.08tpr_m900:)
17:06.10tpr_m900hello
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17:38.58RobRBHello all, I'm new here, so I'm going to lurk for a while and get to know the channel some before bugging the group. If any are curious, I'm RobRedbeard on xda-dev and I've been working on learning about Blackstone's display hardware.
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18:50.48gehzumteufelcmonex: you there?
18:59.55F22<PROTECTED>
19:07.41gehzumteufelYeah I just saw that too
19:14.31F22i'm debating whether or not to send my tp2 back. tmo has no 3g signal in my area, and the throughput i get via edge is horrid. i love the phone however and got a really good deal on it via wmdeals.com. so i'm not sure what i'm going to do.
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19:21.56gehzumteufelWhere are you at?
19:22.02gehzumteufelNJ
19:22.03gehzumteufellol
19:22.13F22lol, yup
19:22.15gehzumteufelI know it sounds horrible, but give it time
19:22.40gehzumteufelThey are the cheapest for the most part and they are launching so many phones as of late
19:23.03gehzumteufelAlso, they are lighting up 7.2Mbps in all their markets they have 3G in by end of year
19:23.26F22unfortunately i do not yet have 3g so that doesn't do me much good right now. :P
19:24.08gehzumteufelYeah I know
19:24.12F22i'm not all that far from philly however, so i suppose it all depends on when they decide to build out in my direction.
19:24.27GNUtoohi, from time to time there are some people coming in #replicant asking me what more recent phones(than htcdream) to buy to liberate them...what sources have been published for recent phones...only the kernel?
19:24.28gehzumteufelI almost left T-Mobile for AT&T, but I just couldn't justify the price
19:25.06gehzumteufelThe cost of AT&T vs T-Mobile, was $30 more per month on AT&T.
19:25.33gehzumteufelThe only advantage would be that I could use Euro phones on the network
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19:29.05F22all 3 of the other carriers have 3g in my area. although i could just go back to a dumb phone for another year until there is a better selection of decent android phones with both wvga and a keyboard.
19:30.07phhlike touchpro you mean ? :p
19:30.10gehzumteufelhaha
19:30.11phhoh *w*vga
19:30.21F22:D
19:30.40gehzumteufelF22: Have you called TMO to see if they have an idea of approximately when you will have 3g in your area?
19:30.46F22although i would consider a tp if i could get one cheap that's unlocked.
19:31.10F22i asked. customer service doesn't have that type of info.
19:33.19F22mostly my issue is paying for data that is currently too slow & painful to use.  so i'm not sure i want to be held to a 2 year contract. if i knew for a fact they'd have 3 g in my area within the next few months...
19:34.53F22unfortunately my window for cancellation is rapidly closing.
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19:40.20AstainHellbringtmzt_ you seen the letstalk.com pricing for pixi?
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20:12.13gehzumteufelF22, Yeah I understand your predicament. Who were you with before?
20:14.42F22AT&T. Although it was a grandfathered 2 line plan from the cingular for two lines for $50 and I paid half. So I actually had a pretty good deal with more minutes than i could possibly use due to all the rollover minutes that had built up for just $25/month.
20:18.02gehzumteufelAh
20:18.20gehzumteufelIf I had that, I would have stayed with it
20:18.22gehzumteufelHonestly
20:18.34gehzumteufelThere is no plan than can beat that
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20:19.27F22yup, exactly. the only downside is not text or data. but my data throughput is terrible right now anyway.
20:20.06F22i haven't dropped the AT&T plan yet. i've been kind of holding off while i tested out the tmo plan during its 20 day trial period.
20:20.52F22of course it took nearly a week for the phone to arrive, so it's been more like a 2 week trial period.
20:22.15F22i'll definitely miss the phone though.
20:23.44F22i was kind of afraid the tp2 would be too big initially, but now that i've handled it for 2 weeks i don't have the slightest problem with its size, if anything, i wouldn't mind if it were a little larger like the leo.
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20:27.07gehzumteufelThe size is not absurd because the whole thing is pretty thin and feature packed
20:27.18F22agreed
20:27.28gehzumteufelPeople always say size is a factor, and then they use the device and realise it is fantastic
20:27.43Link9228hello everyone
20:27.44F22i'll second that
20:28.10gehzumteufelCan you add to that grandfathered plan without changing it? Like add text?
20:28.41gehzumteufelHello Link9228
20:29.40F22dunno, haven't really tried. AT&T chages an arm and a leg for text.
20:30.38Link9228so, has one made their own linux build for their phones?
20:30.39NetRipperit's almost embarrassing walking around with the hd2
20:30.48NetRippernon-techies just see "a big phone" :)
20:30.49Link9228anyone*
20:32.06NetRipperLink9228, one probably has ;) any specifics?
20:32.56Link9228Just wondering.  I was planning on trying to compile my own kernel.
20:33.04NetRipperfor which phone?
20:33.11Link9228The Vogue/touch/xv6900
20:33.18NetRipperah
20:33.23NetRipperdzo's baby
20:33.31F22yup
20:33.59NetRipperi dont know any links but im sure there are a lot of guids on how to compile a kernel for the vogue
20:34.03NetRipperguides
20:34.25Link9228I'm currently looking at androidonhtc.com and the XDA wiki about it
20:34.55Link9228I don't even have a real reason to make my own... guess I just want to see if I can get a working one, haha.
20:35.11NetRipper;) it's not a 5 min thingy ;)
20:35.17Link9228I know, I know
20:35.27Link9228I'm just downloading everything right now.
20:35.43NetRipperi think this is a recent git for the vogue: http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-vogue
20:36.02NetRipperalso kaiser/polaris it seems
20:36.15Link9228thanks!
20:37.23F22Netripper: How have things with the haret edits for the leo?
20:37.37F22s/things/things gone
20:38.29NetRipperF22, seems to go alright, im able to WIRQ now without haret crashing
20:39.07NetRippermight even be able to boot a linux kernel now
20:39.14NetRipperhavent tried yet though
20:39.20NetRipperneed to compile one
20:39.27F22lol, answered my question before i could ask it.
20:39.31NetRipper:)
20:39.42Link9228will have to learn C better.
20:39.43NetRipperim a bit anxious about booting linux
20:39.51NetRipperwouldnt wanna fry my hd2 already
20:39.51NetRipper:P
20:39.54Link9228as of now... most of my experience is in c#
20:40.11NetRipperLink9228, same here.. i just know c/c++ from the old days at school
20:40.27Link9228I recently checked out a c++ book from my library
20:40.34Link9228but as I can see, it's still different than C
20:40.37NetRipperand a bit last year when i was working on haret and linux kernel for the raphael
20:40.50Link9228did you get that working?
20:40.53NetRipperyes
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20:40.59Link9228awesome.
20:41.08NetRippernot me alone, not by far ;) many people helped
20:41.19Link9228haha, yeah.  I wouldn't be able to do that
20:41.31Link9228luckily, there's this GIT repository which should be mostly updated
20:41.57NetRipperthe link above is only for vogue/kaiser/polaris i think
20:42.13NetRipperim going to use another one for leo to tr
20:42.13Link9228should work for me, thought
20:42.14NetRippery
20:42.15Link9228though*
20:42.16NetRipperah ok
20:42.17NetRipper:)
20:42.18NetRipperah yes
20:42.34NetRipperhad you confused already
20:42.49F22Netripper: Is there even a kernel available for you to use for Leo at this point?
20:42.57Link9228How much different would the code be for vogue vs leo?
20:42.58gehzumteufelI want Android on my damn TP2
20:43.04gehzumteufelBut it would be best on the Leo
20:43.13gehzumteufel1ghz and .5gb of ram is just awesome
20:43.13NetRipperhttps://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/le/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=shortlog;h=cd20a82a61fe69ea54d44f4bb919aa8821d4fdb9
20:43.16NetRipperthat one hopefully
20:43.26NetRipperit has snapdragon support
20:43.35Link9228I guess you would need different drivers and different resolutions, but what else?
20:43.41gehzumteufelLink9228: Lots. The Vogue uses a totally different SoC
20:43.56gehzumteufelIt has a whole cpu
20:43.57NetRipperLink9228, ummm a _lot_ of differences
20:44.01gehzumteufeldifferent*
20:44.07Link9228pardon my ignorance, gehzumteufel, but what does SoC stand for?
20:44.12NetRipperLink9228, as gehzumteufel says, other cpu
20:44.13gehzumteufelSystem on a Chip
20:44.18gehzumteufelThey aren
20:44.18Link9228oh
20:44.20Link9228okay
20:44.21gehzumteufelaren't just cpus
20:44.25Link9228yeah, mine is ARM
20:44.30gehzumteufelThey all are
20:44.33NetRipper:)
20:44.38Link9228ah, excuse me then
20:45.08Link9228I'll be back in a jiffy, have to get my brother off the bus
20:45.12gehzumteufelPretty much all phones use ARM based cpus, but they all vary. Each manufactuer has a different spec, etc
20:45.15NetRipperthe SoC includes cpu, mmu, touchscreen controller, gpu and more, dont even know exactly
20:45.34gehzumteufelAlso the BT module, WiFi module, 3g modem, and some others
20:45.44NetRipper:)
20:45.58NetRipperlet's just keep it at "pain in the ass" :)
20:46.00Link9228holy wow that's a lot.  I forgot about all that stuff
20:46.01Link9228haha
20:46.10Link9228brb
20:46.11gehzumteufelHAHA
20:46.19gehzumteufelYeah there is a lot to worry about
20:46.46gehzumteufelIt took a few weeks to get the TP2 to finally get past a specific crash point
20:47.25gehzumteufelThen again, cr2 doesn't have a Rhodium either. He is just getting feedback from some of us that are willing to help
20:47.52F22gehzumteufel: a lot less work to get TP2 running i think than leo given that TP2 is stil msm7XXX.
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20:51.39Link9228I'm back
20:52.48Link9228wow, this git repository has a ton of stuff in it.
20:55.13NetRipperLink9228, a pretty old post, but should get you started: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2269384#post2269384
20:55.22NetRipperjust replace "htc-msm" as branchname for "htc-vogue"
20:55.23NetRipper:)
20:55.33NetRipperthe git clone address is correct
20:55.34Link9228thanks, NetRipper
20:55.47NetRipperhope you're using linux btw ;)
20:55.55Link9228could you address a question about a message in the freenode status tab?
20:56.01Link9228and I'm running ubuntu 9.10
20:56.22NetRipperaddress a question in your status tab?
20:56.22NetRipper:P
20:56.48NetRipperi dont follow;)
20:56.50Link922815:25] == *** Your forward and reverse DNS don't match
20:56.55NetRipperah
20:57.11Link9228not sure what that means
20:57.16phhLink9228: it's explicit
20:57.24Link9228well, I assume to know what it's talking about
20:57.25phhdo you know what a reverse DNS is ?
20:57.27Link9228better question
20:57.32Link9228what's a reverse DNS
20:57.33Link9228haha
20:57.35phh.
20:57.50phhreverse DNS is a thing to get a name from an IP
20:58.02phhthis message means that the IP of this name, isn't the original IP
20:58.11Link9228ah.
20:58.17Link9228it's not really important, is it?
20:58.20NetRipperno
20:58.40Link9228okay, just wondering, thanks guys
20:58.41NetRipperin fact i think it's an error of the server as the ip in your whois is perfectly fine
20:58.45NetRipper:)
20:58.57Link9228that's good I suppose
20:59.47Link9228your whois is very interesting... ; )
20:59.58NetRipperwhile my linux is fetching the codeaurora git im gonna watch an anime
21:00.08Link9228okay, have fun.  Thanks for the help
21:00.20NetRipperta ;)
21:00.35NetRipperi can whois myself but im not sure if i see the same as you do
21:00.36NetRipper:)
21:00.59Link9228probably not.
21:01.16Link9228realname: Watch it!! I'll uNf!- ya all!!
21:01.20NetRipperhehe
21:01.23NetRipperyea true
21:01.23NetRipper:)
21:01.33Link9228sneaky
21:01.48NetRipperso be careful ;)
21:01.55Link9228I will
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21:47.22yoyeyphh, With a donut version and permission to the /sys/class/i2c-adapter I managed to get accelerometer working on HD.
21:47.31phhyoyey: cool
21:47.35yoyeyyep
21:48.16yoyeybut the screen is inverted (up-down)
21:48.50phhoh my bad
21:49.02phhyou had a bugged version :p
21:49.41yoyeyok do you have a tutorial do compile my own donut version ?
21:50.09phhi don't even know how to do that
21:51.44yoyeythe only modification on the sensors.c is the i2c bus Address.
21:52.11phhwell i'll make an autodetection thing
21:52.14phhiirc it's easy
21:52.28phhjust ioctl EVIOCGPHYS
21:54.07yoyeyI think it's a good idea to have the same driver.
21:55.36mdrobnakHi all.
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22:04.12gehzumteufelphh: What do you do for a living? You seem like you would do something similar
22:04.20gehzumteufelwith relation to all this programming
22:04.35phhnot really.
22:04.44phhi'm currently a student, studying mainly maths and physics
22:09.51gehzumteufelahh
22:10.35gehzumteufelHow old are you?
22:10.52phh2&
22:10.55phh21*
22:11.42gehzumteufeldamn youngins
22:11.51gehzumteufelis 26
22:11.56phhlol
22:12.08Battousaikids these days
22:12.16NetRipperthe kernel im building from aurora has an QSD8x50 "SURF" and "FFA" board... as the SURF sounds familiar somehow.. anyone know if these ring a bell?
22:12.41gehzumteufelhaha Battousai
22:15.28phhyoyey: will need a kernel patch.
22:15.43phhno big deal but you'll have to rebuild yours
22:17.38yoyeyyep I send you the patch or do you want I upate the git ?
22:18.11phhhu ? which patch ?
22:18.41yoyeykernel patch
22:19.05phhyou patched kionix ?
22:19.10phhanyway that's not what i meant :p
22:20.10phhyoyey: which kernel tree are you using btw ?
22:20.26yoyeyhtc-msm-2.6.27
22:20.46phhon linuxtogo ?
22:21.37yoyeyyes
22:21.55yoyeythe only modified file is the board-htcblackstone.c
22:22.11phhoh just added the i2c declaration ?
22:22.32yoyeyyep with 0X19 for i2c adr
22:22.42phhgrr, why not 0x18 ? :p
22:23.23yoyeyTo make  the reverse more difficult ;-)
22:35.48phhyoyey: build this kernel tree: http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm
22:36.06phhand i'm modifing sensors.c to use it
22:36.58yoyeyok
22:38.45NetRippercr2, haret doesn't crash anymore trying to boot a linux image.. but it doesn't work either.. will probably need to adjust druidu's "htc boot console" driver with new FB addresses and dma addresses
22:40.20NetRippercr2, can you find out the gpio addresses for the "addlist gpios p2v(..)" list?
22:40.48NetRippercr2, maybe i can find the gpio for the LED again and see if it actually goes through initialization
22:43.14phhyoyey: pushed http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/android-hardware
22:43.46phhyoyey: http://husson.hd.free.fr/sensors.default.so
22:43.51phhfor a prebuilt version
22:43.59phhtime to say hello to my bed now
22:44.42NetRippernight phh
22:44.42NetRipper:)
22:45.04phhyoyey: btw, do you know the differences between blackstone's android build and diam/raph ones ?
22:45.43phhi think we'd better work on only one build
22:46.01phhanyway, i said goto sleep
22:46.27yoyeyFor my test I try with this version => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572537
22:47.01phhi don't know what tuxhero actually did
22:47.10yoyeythe donut build, could you send me a link to download an android raphael/diam build
22:47.31phhhttp://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelDonut
22:48.29yoyeytomorrow i'll try this build and I report my test
22:48.33phhthanks
22:48.41phhwould be awesome if it worked :p
22:49.06phhespecially because wifi/BT is a real pain
22:49.16yoyeyyes
22:50.29phhoh your french.. didn't notice :D
22:51.00phhanyway. sleep i said.
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