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01:59.06DarkKraiWhere would one go to learn about porting android to the samsung glyde?
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02:26.11tmztDarkKrai: hi, here is good :)
02:26.19tmztcan you tell me what cpu/soc it has?
02:26.32tmztif it's msm6k or runs amss there's really no way at this time
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02:30.54jbchow1hay nex
02:31.40tmzt?
02:31.58jbchow1I know nex form ppc geeks
02:32.25tmztoh, NexVision
02:32.26tmztok
02:32.29jbchow1was curious what work needed to be done on the raph500 since I have one and it works... its buggy as hell but it works
02:32.34mdrobnaktmzt: Just a quick line, about to go to bed - Seems outgoing SMS is broken with my RIL. Not sure if it always has been broken, or just with my patches.
02:33.10tmztjbchow1: ok, I'm working on that
02:33.14tmztandroid or something else?
02:33.18jbchow1android
02:33.28jbchow1im so fricken tired of windows mobile I could scream
02:34.44jbchow1tmzt do you know why it boots and then just shuts down reboots and nothing loads
02:34.51tmztit did that before
02:34.54tmztbut no, don't know
02:35.04tmztbut I use angstrom and now Mer so I can't really help much with android
02:35.08tmztjust working on kernel
02:35.12jbchow1last time I booted it was 6 something
02:35.14tmztit happens on raph800 too I think
02:36.00jbchow1I setup my raph500 as if it were a raph 800 not realising it wasn't a 800
02:36.16mdrobnakBattery level not being reported, perhaps?
02:36.18jbchow1I just think the calibration was off
02:36.27jbchow1well it does say the battery is low
02:36.44jbchow1(in extremely small icons at top)
02:36.47tmztah, ok
02:37.04jbchow1could be reporting 100% battery hard to say
02:37.10jbchow1but im pretty sure its empty
02:37.26mdrobnakmine fluctuates by 10% per reading..
02:37.34mdrobnakie 95%, 87, 94..
02:37.43jbchow1lol
02:37.47mdrobnak(RAPH 110 here)
02:37.47jbchow1its reading too often then
02:38.00mdrobnakQuite possibly.
02:38.04jbchow1<= electrical egineer
02:38.08jbchow1engineer*
02:38.13mdrobnakcomp e here
02:38.18jbchow1lol
02:38.22mdrobnakNot much on hw side though
02:38.27jbchow1I can tell you why the hardware is messing up
02:38.27mdrobnaksys admin by day
02:38.31jbchow1I can't do shit for software
02:38.34mdrobnakheh
02:38.54jbchow1if you want I can show you the battery curve
02:39.07jbchow1its simulating virtually to determine the power raiting
02:39.27jbchow1ie if the power reads a specific level then the battery is x amount dead
02:39.48mdrobnakLiOn batteries have pretty flat curves, up to a point, right?
02:39.57mdrobnak(except under heavy load)
02:40.01jbchow1it will however drop momentairly if the load is high for
02:40.02jbchow1lol
02:40.07jbchow1(see what I was typing lol)
02:40.17jbchow1it has a amp hours
02:40.23jbchow1so if its 3 amp hours
02:40.26mdrobnak<--- was going to do a electric car conversion
02:40.29jbchow1you can pull 3 amps for 1 hour
02:40.41jbchow1or 6 amps for 30 minutes
02:40.49jbchow1:-P
02:40.52mdrobnakmost Li is like 4C max..
02:41.12jbchow1good so I don't have to explain it too much :-)
02:41.23mdrobnakhehe yah
02:41.23jbchow1but lets say the modem calls out when you read the power
02:41.25jbchow1it would drop
02:41.32mdrobnakright, that makes sense.
02:41.41jbchow1you need to take into account a logimetric curve
02:41.42mdrobnakso you need to take like X readings and average them
02:41.52jbchow1log them
02:42.01jbchow1not so much average
02:42.24mdrobnakWell, I haven't taken a look at the driver at all...that's on the far to do list.
02:42.30jbchow1if you take the logimetric curve of the battery
02:42.34mdrobnakThe first problem is it still draws too much current :-)
02:42.35jbchow1lol
02:42.39jbchow1for now just average them
02:42.40jbchow1lol
02:42.49jbchow1lol the phone always did
02:43.01mdrobnakIt's definitely coming along, it's so much better then it was 6 or 3 months ago
02:43.04jbchow1if the modem/phone/bluetooth/wifi is on
02:43.09mdrobnakI'm using it daily, but keeping a charger handy
02:43.20jbchow1I would love to use it daily
02:43.24jbchow1but it doent stay up
02:43.30jbchow1does the modem work on the raph500
02:43.32mdrobnakI have to investigate outgoing SMS issues, but that's about it.
02:43.40jbchow1like can I receive calls/sms?
02:43.42mdrobnakno idea, sorry.
02:43.46jbchow1lol
02:43.48mdrobnakIt should be simliar to the 800
02:43.51jbchow1im more than willing to try
02:43.55tmztit works for me on angstrom/mer
02:43.57jbchow1different processor
02:43.59jbchow1that's about it
02:44.04mdrobnaknot exactly
02:44.04mdrobnakhehe
02:44.05tmztbut only can hear the other person, not talk to them
02:44.13mdrobnakthere's a LOT of changes for just GSM -> CDMA
02:44.14jbchow1different processor = different ram
02:44.28jbchow1gsm => cdma YES
02:44.29jbchow1lol
02:44.33tmztsome
02:44.44tmztbut what does ram have to do with radio working?
02:44.45jbchow1one of my frineds told me the new android build has cdma support
02:44.53mdrobnakwell, as I understood it from cr2, they changed more then one would have thought
02:44.56jbchow1ram has to do with different chip set
02:44.58tmztyes, but we don't have that source yet exactly
02:45.06tmztor we do but haven't integrated it
02:45.08jbchow1so if it talks to the modem differently
02:45.09jbchow1its relivant
02:45.22tmztnot in the way mdrobnak said
02:45.26mdrobnakRight.
02:45.28tmztor I misunderstood it
02:45.37mdrobnakThe modem issues are
02:45.41mdrobnakmostly command differences
02:45.49mdrobnakand some other issues with setting audio paths
02:45.57mdrobnakso the microphone works :-)
02:46.09tmztjbchow1: so apparently shuting down is due to battery
02:46.16tmztI will have to clean up my raph500 changes
02:46.23jbchow1YAY ...
02:46.33jbchow1well yay we know why now to break/fix it
02:46.52tmztI think I want to split the board headers into memory ranges and gpios
02:47.14tmztkeep RAPH100 for the ones that don't need changing, change the rest to per board naming (BLAK100, etc.)
02:47.45jbchow1so
02:47.54jbchow1as far as using too much current
02:47.58tmztthen I can either recombine the boards for raph500 or just have the memory devices in a single file
02:48.04mdrobnaktmzt: I wanted to see how we could integrate the Samsung stuff too
02:48.09jbchow1do you guys under clock the processor when its not in use?
02:48.12tmztwell, I think we aren't measureing it properly
02:48.16tmztmdrobnak: right
02:48.20tmztjbchow1: we can, it should work
02:48.25tmztjbchow1: don't think we currently do
02:48.32jbchow1that's where I would say 50% of your power loss is
02:48.47jbchow1the rest is radios
02:48.52jbchow1which there isn't much you can do about
02:48.53mdrobnakwe do some times underclock it
02:48.59mdrobnakat least for 100/110
02:49.12jbchow1that other than to shut off radios that are not in use
02:49.14jbchow1and poll them
02:49.19jbchow1or like with bluetooth
02:49.22jbchow1not search
02:49.26jbchow1just wait to be contacted
02:49.38jbchow1the data modem will kill my phone in 2 hours
02:49.42jbchow1and it never hangs up
02:49.54jbchow1and if you can't hang it up after you boot
02:50.00jbchow1that is where the other half of yoru power loss is
02:50.23mdrobnakI get about 4-5 hours of use out of it
02:50.26mdrobnakwith push email on
02:50.38jbchow1is the dataconnection
02:50.39jbchow1poling
02:50.43jbchow1or constantly on?
02:50.50jbchow1polling*
02:51.04mdrobnakit sends keep-alive messages every 10 minutes or so
02:51.04tmztthe radio should wake up the arm11
02:51.20mdrobnakwell, according to Android, it never goes to "sleep"
02:51.20jbchow1... lol
02:51.40jbchow1well its not that you want it to go to sleep
02:51.49jbchow1you just dotn want to broadcast anything
02:51.54mdrobnakNo, There's two procs
02:51.59jbchow1and you want to spin down the processor when its not running
02:52.00mdrobnakan ARM9...which is the radio
02:52.08mdrobnakand an ARM11, or application proc
02:52.12mdrobnakyou *can* shut down the ARM11.
02:52.19mdrobnakand I thought we did
02:52.20jbchow1lol not shut down
02:52.22jbchow1spin down
02:52.28jbchow1make it run at 50 mhz
02:52.29mdrobnaklike turn clock to 0 Mhz.
02:52.29mdrobnaklol
02:52.39jbchow1then when it needs to use it full throtle
02:53.12jbchow1lol don't want to do 0
02:53.21jbchow1then spinning up would be dificult
02:53.22jbchow1lol
02:53.30jbchow1just spin down to something low
02:54.00jbchow1hay for the boot loader
02:54.03mdrobnakanyway, I need to get to sleep...Just wanted to convey the SMS issues..
02:54.05jbchow1mem=76
02:54.12jbchow1how important is that?
02:54.16mdrobnakyou can change that to 89
02:54.20jbchow1like raph500 = less ram
02:54.36mdrobnakyeah, but trust me, we're not using it all (at least not with Android)
02:54.38mdrobnakthat's on the list
02:54.43jbchow1lol
02:54.47jbchow1windows mobile fail...
02:54.49mdrobnakI've got mine set up to use 107MBs.
02:55.00mdrobnakyes, it's a very odd number.
02:55.01mdrobnakanyway
02:55.03mdrobnaksee ay
02:55.04mdrobnak*ya
02:55.22tmztyou can change it to 101 with my board
02:59.07jbchow1is there a way to determine what the correct mtype is
02:59.14jbchow1for my phone like a test I should run?
02:59.24jbchow1and the calibration too
03:00.04tmzthtcraphael_cdma500      MACH_HTCRAPHAEL_CDMA500 HTCRAPHAEL_CDMA500      2182
03:00.17tmztbut without my patch it won't work very well
03:00.23tmztI think you can use it though
03:00.26jbchow1the site says ?2182?
03:00.28jbchow1lol
03:00.29tmztjust rpc/audio won't work
03:00.45jbchow1and the zmgdevname is like /dev/mmcblk0?
03:01.43jbchow1tmzt how hard would fixing that battery issue be?
03:01.44jbchow1lol
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03:06.10jbchow1HaRET: need larger fornt
03:06.10jbchow1font*
03:10.06jbchow1can I boot straight to linux?
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03:50.35rafyvittosup guys
03:50.49rafyvittoanyone else having issues with 1.6 donut builds
03:51.10rafyvittoon my raph110 the system freezes and then it restarts by it self ><
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04:14.48jbchow1so... the more I look into mtype
04:15.19jbchow1the more it says its relevant to the kernel... so where did the raph500 number come form?
04:16.44NexVisionsup tmzt
04:16.53jbchow1hey nex
04:16.56NexVisionhey
04:17.01jbchow1do you have any idea about the mtype
04:17.08jbchow1if anyone would know somehow I think it would be you
04:17.46NexVisionwhat u trying to find out
04:17.57jbchow1well the more I look into it
04:18.12jbchow1willever just said 2182 seems like the right number
04:18.15jbchow1I don't have a raph500
04:18.25NexVisioni dont either
04:18.35jbchow1I know you don't any more
04:18.46NexVisionnope i now have rhod100
04:18.51jbchow1I just didn't know if you had any idea about how the mtype is issued
04:18.56jbchow1dude I need a new phone
04:19.01jbchow1verizon screwed me
04:19.04NexVisionlol
04:19.08jbchow1they didn't tell me they were extending my contract
04:19.09NexVisionur not the first
04:19.17NexVisiondispute it
04:19.20jbchow1I plan to
04:19.26jbchow1when I have money to get a new phone
04:19.26jbchow1lol
04:19.27NexVisionif theres no recording or sig then your fine
04:19.46jbchow1I was one of the 3 messed up phones
04:19.50jbchow1get a new phone
04:20.00jbchow1they never said "your contract will get pushed out 1 year)
04:20.16jbchow1if they had I would say give me another referb
04:22.50jbchow1I am so sick of windows mobile
04:22.59jbchow1I am waiting for android / verizon
04:24.20NexVisionjbc wm 6.5.1 is awesome
04:24.35NexVisionandroid is nice but still has a ways to come
04:24.43NexVisionive got my g1 for when i want droid
04:24.48NexVisionand dont get me wrong i love it
04:24.50NexVisionbut
04:25.02jbchow1see 6.5.1 would be amazing
04:25.06NexVisionthe tp2 is alot more functional then my g1 is
04:25.09jbchow1but my phone is laggy as fuck and keeps on freezing up
04:25.15NexVisionthats what im running
04:25.24NexVision23064
04:25.28NexVisionand its awesome
04:25.31jbchow1ask deck
04:25.35jbchow1I've been working with him
04:25.41NexVisiondung
04:25.52jbchow1the version I have is awesome but laggy and locks up all the itme
04:25.59jbchow1I know it's the touch pro
04:27.21NexVisionstill shouldnt lock up on u
04:27.39jbchow1it freezes
04:27.44jbchow1and then responds like 20 seconds later
04:27.48jbchow1or just doesn't work at all
04:27.51jbchow1its infurating
04:28.15jbchow1and its almost 100% stock
04:28.19jbchow1(the rom)
04:34.52jbchow1I now understand what tmzt was point too for the mtype
04:35.23jbchow1http://tomoyo.sourceforge.jp/cgi-bin/lxr/source/arch/arm/tools/mach-types
04:39.27tmztNexVision: really?
04:39.34NexVision?
04:39.39tmzttp2 is more functional with wm
04:39.45tmzthow do you mean
04:39.46NexVisionthen g1 yeah
04:39.58NexVisionmultitasking
04:40.12jbchow1my bigger issue with windows mobile is shitty google voice support
04:40.18NexVisioni get a crapload of emails and txts while on the phone
04:40.22jbchow1onedialer isn't very good
04:40.29NexVisionworks great for me
04:40.49NexVisionit doesnt allow u to see call logs and voicemails which i agree is very lacking
04:40.50jbchow1so you like it when you send outgoing texts it says "message failed to send"
04:41.06tmztthought you had raph500
04:41.14NexVisionwell as far as that goes i only reply to incoming txts
04:41.19tmzt13:58 < jbchow1> I setup my raph500 as if it were a raph 800 not realising it wasn't a 800
04:41.20NexVisionno i have rhod100
04:41.28jbchow1I do have a raph500
04:41.36NexVisionused to have raph and switched to tmo and got g1
04:42.07NexVisionthen tp2 came out so i called tmo and bitched
04:42.10jbchow1messing with haret and telnet right now
04:42.12tmzt15:39 < jbchow1> I don't have a raph500
04:42.16NexVisiongot 2 tp2's for under 100
04:42.28tmztwow
04:42.35tmzthow?
04:43.04NexVisionwell i bitched about lack of exchange support on g1 and threatened to cancel
04:43.08tmztare there full dialer replacements for wm?
04:43.11NexVisionthey offered me tp2 for 200
04:43.13tmztah
04:43.21NexVisionups threw it over the fence
04:43.25NexVisionso i said i never got it
04:43.26jbchow1tmzt I was trying to say I know you don't have a raph500 any more
04:43.30jbchow1to nex
04:43.34NexVisionchanged my imei and started using it
04:43.38tmztoh, ok
04:43.55NexVisionand then went back and forth and they didnt wanna send out another
04:44.04NexVisioni called the office of the president and bitched
04:44.13NexVisionthey sent me another one for $50
04:45.10tmztthat's 150 each
04:45.17jbchow1lmao lack of exchange support that's pretty big mess up
04:45.23jbchow1then again I sync all my shit to google
04:45.31NexVisionnope
04:45.38tmztwhich uses exchange protocol on wm
04:45.44NexVisionthats 50 since they credited me for the first one fully
04:45.45jbchow1yes
04:45.50tmztah
04:46.03jbchow1I wanted the tp2
04:46.06jbchow1but then I saw the inigma
04:46.09NexVisionthen i paid 25 quid to change imei on the one i said i never got
04:46.17tmzttp2 not much better
04:46.20tmztthan tp
04:46.21jbchow1and then I heard about the google phone for verizon
04:46.24jbchow1and I got excicted
04:46.24tmztin hardware
04:46.28tmztSholes?
04:46.36jbchow1if I can boot android on tp2
04:46.37jbchow1im sold
04:46.41NexVisionactual hardware no its not
04:46.44NexVisionscreen yes
04:46.50tmztdon't like the extra buttons or iPhone front
04:46.52tmzttrue
04:46.53NexVisionkeybaord hell yes
04:46.59jbchow1idk
04:47.03jbchow1see I love the keyboard
04:47.06NexVisionkeyboard*
04:47.06tmztbut I really like sholes keyboard/dpad
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04:47.13jbchow1but I find my self using the new sip more
04:47.30tmztbut my raph500 will be my debian/Mer device
04:47.58tmzteven though it's vga
04:47.58jbchow1wait what did you do with your raph500?
04:48.20NexVisionfleabay
04:48.55NexVisionive got a couple iphone 3gs's here to i gotta ebay
04:55.50jbchow1um... why won't raphlinux boot on my raph500 with the usb cable attatched
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05:04.05AstainHellbringNexVision how much did you get for your raph500?
05:04.12NexVision350
05:04.20jbchow1really?
05:04.26AstainHellbringdamn!
05:04.39jbchow1what did you say "owned by nexvision"
05:04.42NexVisionthis was back in april remember
05:05.32AstainHellbringahh
05:06.04NexVisionmaybe may actually
05:06.12NexVisioni dumped vzw when i closed the store
05:07.05tmztjbchow1: what is raphlinux?
05:07.19tmztraph500 isn't enabled in anybody's kernel
05:07.24tmztconfig
05:07.32tmztso you have to build from git
05:21.58jbchow1um if I boot android with set mtype 2182
05:22.08jbchow1the screen doesn't change
05:22.09tmztyeah?
05:22.11jbchow1if I don't it does
05:22.22tmztyou need to compile the kernel from git
05:22.25jbchow1lmao
05:22.32jbchow1just read what you wrote
05:22.33jbchow1lol
05:22.35tmztand enable that machine in .config
05:22.40tmztwhy?
05:22.58jbchow1... I need to compile my own kernel
05:22.59tmztthere are some symbol conflicts with other devices
05:23.00jbchow1lol
05:23.02tmztyes
05:23.16jbchow1maybe I can start the raph500 wing of raph linux
05:23.25tmztunlike ce where you can't
05:23.33tmztwing is more for omap devices
05:24.01tmzthow would that be any different?
05:24.09jbchow1I have no idea
05:24.12jbchow1lol
05:24.20jbchow1I've never compiled a linux kernal before
05:24.30jbchow1primarly because I watched my room mate do it 2 years ago
05:24.41jbchow1and I was all... im not spending 2 hours compiling a kernal
05:25.05tmztdoesn't take that long
05:25.12tmztgit.linuxtogo.org
05:25.19jbchow1well when your reference is gentoo
05:25.21tmztfollow the clone instructions
05:25.22jbchow1it does lol
05:25.40tmztinstall codesourcery.com armel compiler
05:25.51tmztgit checkout htc-msm-2.6.27
05:25.54tmztvi .config
05:26.00jbchow1I love vi
05:26.11jbchow1lol I built several openwrt routers
05:26.19jbchow1form the ground up
05:26.24jbchow1then I switched over to ddwrt
05:26.25tmztenable CONFIG_MACH_HTCRAPHAEL_CDMA500
05:26.29tmztsame thing
05:26.40jbchow1not the same thing
05:26.41jbchow1lol
05:26.41tmztdisable the others
05:26.46tmztwhy not?
05:26.49jbchow1openwrt =
05:26.55jbchow1wait what are you talking about "same thing"
05:27.00tmztlinux on mipsel
05:27.05tmztis openwrt
05:27.10tmztfor bcm routers
05:27.21jbchow1see openwrt = almost 100% command line
05:27.24jbchow1ddwrt = gui
05:27.31tmztthis is only building kernel, a lot less work
05:27.32tmzt?
05:27.42jbchow1I didn't build the kernal
05:27.43jbchow1lol
05:27.59tmztbuilding a kernel for raph500 is almost the same as building for openwrt routers
05:28.00jbchow1I did however configure the router form the ground up
05:28.08jbchow1I would agree with you there
05:28.12Saltjbchow1, what is this raphlinux you keep mentioning?
05:28.16tmztusing scripts/nvram config?
05:28.19jbchow1lol
05:28.21jbchow1sorry
05:28.34tmztno prebult zImage supports raph500
05:28.36jbchow1http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelLinux
05:28.43tmztraph800 kernel should work though
05:28.51tmztthat's our old wiki page
05:28.55Saltah, how is that different than the android project and the umm, remind me of the name tmzt
05:29.02tmztwing?
05:29.07jbchow1what's the new page?
05:29.09Saltno, mer or something
05:29.16tmztwiki.htc-linux.org
05:29.22tmztwe build a kernel
05:29.50jbchow1I ran into this site
05:29.57jbchow1got really confused and ended up on xda
05:30.05tmztanybody can use android, angstrom, oe, openmoko, debian, gentoo (linwizard), ubuntu jaunty, Mer, arkmobile, etc..
05:30.18tmzton top of that kernel
05:30.35tmztnone of them provide a kernel for your device
05:31.00tmztconnect-utb and dzo's diam project both started with and use and contribute to the ltg kernel
05:31.06tmztgit.linuxtogo.org
05:31.11tmzt~ltg
05:31.12aptltg is probably 85.214.40.226
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08:34.20LucleonhartHey #all
08:34.43Lucleonhartjust tried new Kovsky version of Android... no luck.
08:35.05LucleonhartConsole Handover: boot  is last line, short vibration... that's it
08:42.17tmztkovs?
08:42.24tmztfrom where?
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10:11.16tuxhero_dzo r u there?
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11:22.50talatalawhat is this channel?
11:29.17tmzttat: for linux/android on htc devices
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11:32.17tmztmostly those those that didn't come with it
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14:55.45nozzenot much
14:55.54nozzeyou?
14:56.04VenumXnot too much
14:56.12VenumXgot my hero for sprint the other day
14:56.20nozzenice
14:56.30VenumXlookin into to rooting it and such, but i hear it hasnt been rooted yet
14:56.45nozzeI've no clue
14:56.57VenumXthat makes two of us
14:56.58VenumXhaha
14:57.09nozze:)
14:58.11nozzethe only I've the smalest clue 'bout is the android port to RAPH100
14:58.34VenumXooo i have RAPH800
14:58.39VenumXbut i already got it workin gon that
14:58.40VenumXhaha
15:02.40nozzenice :)
15:03.15nozzeI realy like the hardware of the raph but I can't put in words how much I hate WinMo
15:04.23VenumXhahha
15:04.29VenumXim a winmo dev but im lookin to skip over to android dev
15:04.38nozze:)
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16:42.09tavelramIve been googling for a while, but I cant find anything about the status on a linux for htc s730, (running the msm7200 at 400mhz)
16:44.20tavelramanyone that knows anything about that?
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16:45.02Captnoordisn't that part of the htc-vogue branch?
16:45.07Captnoordbrb shower
16:45.28tavelramCaptnoord, cheers, Ill have a look.
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16:53.31tavelramCaptnoord, htc-vogue seems to primarily be for msm7500.
16:54.15tavelramBut since you guys are mostly working on msm7201a (right?), plain 7200 would work somewhat as well, at least some basic hw support?
16:56.35tavelramnevermind, htc kaiser uses the 7200 and has it working somewhat
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17:04.32Captnoordthanks tavelram
17:08.17dcordestavelram, read the topic please. use codenames so people know what device you are talking about. s730 is wings. there are some splitters who made an own 'project' for it
17:10.02tavelramdcordes, sorry, I though s730 was the correct codename and that wings was an alias.
17:10.15phhdcordes: about diamond's defconfig, the only change to be made is for calibration, if you want to read it you have to add msm mtd, but if you already saved it somewhere (typically, my android releases save it to /sdcard/calibration), there is nothing else to add
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17:11.41dcordesphh, ok. and how to read the calibration file and pass it to the driver?
17:12.14phhto pass it to the driver, cp /calibration /lib/firmware/wl1251-nvs.bin
17:12.17phhor /etc/firmware on android
17:12.37dcordeshaha /etc/firmware.
17:12.45dcordeswhy?
17:13.37phhdcordes: i think udev is the one sending it to the driver
17:14.11phh<PROTECTED>
17:14.11phh<PROTECTED>
17:14.22phhand here is how to read it
17:14.36GlemSomI wonder if calibration might be different, of people are using different radio's under WM?  (hence wifi works for some, and not for others)
17:14.51dcordesphh, I looked at the start wifi script you gave me earlier
17:14.54dcordesphh, insmod /system/lib/modules/wlan.ko ?
17:15.08phhdcordes: i do this insmod in my script ? err my bad
17:15.30phhthe android wifi glue loads /system/lib/modules/wlan.ko by himself
17:15.35phhand won't start wifi if it doesn't work
17:15.44phhthat's why i had to make full android builds
17:15.50dcordesgay
17:15.55phhyup.
17:18.14dcordesphh, so I can use the 2 dd lines and just write it to /lib/firmware/wl1251-nvs.bin ?
17:18.26phhif you want to yes
17:19.04phhbut since nand driver isn't supposed to work really well, according to cr2, it's better to use sdcard i think
17:19.53dcordesI don't have any /lib/firmware/ in nand
17:20.53phhnand = /dev/mtd/mtd0ro
17:22.05dcordeswhy would I write there?
17:22.35phhi'm only speaking about reading
17:22.52dcordesbut my sdcard has now firmware file
17:22.56dcordescalibration
17:23.26phhthen you no longer needs to access to nand, so you can disable its support in kernel, so you won't destroy your SPL
17:23.45dcordesif I don't write, I won't destroy any spl
17:24.03phhif the driver works correctly
17:24.13dcordesthe trustworthy linux distribution I use does not
17:24.46dcordesso basically what you are saying is, grab a random calibration file instead of reading it
17:24.51dcordesfrom your own nand
17:24.59phhno that's not what i'm saying ...
17:25.08dcordesthen I do not understand sorry
17:25.10phhi'm saying that you'd better to read it only one time if you can
17:25.25phhbut, i had no problem with it, so i think cr2 is somehow paranoid
17:26.14dcordesoh ok. wouldn't make much sense reading it repeatedly would it
17:26.27dcordesI don't see why I it would
17:26.46GlemSomphh, I guess if you by accident mess if= and of= around in the dd commands, you might brick your device..
17:28.16dcordesphh, anyway thanks for the reply.
17:30.44phhfor the firmware, i successfully used android's default one and windows mobile's one
17:31.22phhbut the one i most tested is the android's one
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17:32.11phhto be put <firmware folder>/wl1251-fw.bin but i guess you already know that
17:32.19Captnoordcr2 is paranoid for a reason I guess....
17:32.25phhi guess so
17:32.59Captnoordmaybe.....
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17:37.11dcordestuxhero, any reason for moving ramconsole down in initdata in blackstone boardfile?
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17:37.52dcordesphh, is firmware = calibration ?
17:37.57phhno
17:38.07dcordesphh, what is the firmware filename?
17:38.14phhFw*.bin
17:38.40dcordesphh, the wl12xx driver will try any Fw*.bin ?
17:38.44tuxherodcordes, no special reason i was just trying few things
17:39.07dcordestuxhero, might be better to try locally
17:39.46tuxherodcordes, ok
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17:51.17dcordestuxhero, I have a question about 307478c2a0b6e5d1808319d57c2bd56565df947a
17:51.31dcordestuxhero, yet another one
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17:52.27tuxherodcordes, yes
17:52.37dcordestuxhero, does the wifi init work for you with it?
17:52.45dcordeson blac
17:54.48tuxherodcordes, i did't tested with wifi drivers loaded but gpios are correct
17:58.57dcordestuxhero, did you try if mmc still works after that patch?
18:00.06tuxherodcordes, every thing in blackstone is fine i am testing it after each and every commit in git
18:01.56tuxherodcordes, some one is building kernel hourly and writing comments about them http://glemsom.anapnea.net/android/blackstone/
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18:02.49dcordestuxhero, it does not detail on mmc
18:03.05dcordesGlemSom, this site is quite a useful thing btw.
18:03.57tuxherodcordes, mmc is just like before getting few command time out but still working
18:06.40tuxherodcordes, i am pushing another patch for blackstone virtual keypad. In android some time it generating fake virtual call key. msm_ts is sending x:0 y:799 as x is 0 it's thing it as call button press
18:07.43tuxheroso i added check on x != 0 as call button is located at x:30+
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18:19.45Gnutoodcordes, hi FB_MSM_DOUBLE_BUFFER is ok for a CONFIG name ?
18:21.09GlemSomdcordes, Thanks! :)   It was mainly just for myself - but a lot of people seems to be using it
18:22.03phhGlemSom: it's easier for everyone, both users and devs
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18:23.47GlemSomphh, That's really good to hear! :)   Please let me know if you have any suggestions (special kernel builds, layout or something)
18:24.14wiredddI have a hermes laying around and wanted to try getting linux running on it
18:24.19phhGlemSom: well, i think that we might need an external thing to do wifi-enabled initramfs
18:24.59phhi'll have to check how it can be bone
18:25.00phhdone*
18:25.50GlemSomphh, I actually though about that - since the wifi modules needs to be for the exact same kernel... But I haven't quite figured it out yeat...
18:25.55wiredddso what is the procedure like to get the kernel loaded
18:26.42phhGlemSom: i know how to do this, but i have to check if it actually works (and i have to fight against android's wifi glue, but that's another story)
18:26.45GlemSomphh, I though about building a kernel image, and then the wifi modules in a tar.gz or something... Then people could manually copy that to the phone... ?
18:27.30GlemSomphh, yeah, from what I've heard... Android and wifi can be a bit tricky?
18:27.56phhnow that i've understood how this works, i think i can handle it
18:28.37phhGlemSom: so for the modules, i've read that you can add one in kernel and one external, then both will be copied to memory, so you could set the modules into the kernel
18:28.58phhbut i have to check wether this actually works or not
18:29.30GlemSomphh, I haven't really played much with wifi... but do we really need it to be as a module?
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18:29.48phhGlemSom: to make it built-in we need to move to 2.6.31 afaik
18:30.19GlemSomphh, Ohh..? :(
18:30.24wiredddI guess not a lot of progress has really been made for this phone
18:30.30GlemSomphh, Due to another stack or something?
18:30.44phhGlemSom: yep
18:30.57phhthe driver i built use some "backport" thing
18:31.04GlemSomphh, bugger... I didn't know that :/
18:31.24phhwe can still make it builtin, but this makes it so dirty
18:31.43GlemSomphh, yeah, and it will never go upstream then!
18:31.45phh(and maybe hard to maintan)
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18:32.42phhGlemSom: and we need even no change against the current driver, so making it in our branch is almost pointless
18:33.14phhwell, cr2 want to do some, to add CRC checks
18:34.19GNUtoodcordes, ping
18:36.07wiredddis there a branch for the SC32442A somewhere?
18:39.59GNUtoowireddd, maybe : the openmoko kenrel has s3c2442 but I don't know what's the A
18:40.27phhbug fix revA ? :)
18:40.54wireddddunno, I want to see linux working on this thing, but I don't want to start from scratch
18:41.16GNUtoowireddd, starting from scratch is difficult or would need jtag...so
18:41.27dzoGlemSom: wifi module is actually quite easy to build, best is to disable module version checking and all you need to change in the driver is the wakeup gpio number.
18:41.35GNUtoowireddd, you could also ask in #openmoko-cdevel
18:41.45wiredddit was difficult the last time I did it with an arm chip ;/
18:41.46phhdzo: wakeup is not in the driver
18:42.02phh(i mean for wl12xx)
18:42.03dzoyes it is (in the android version anyway)
18:42.09GNUtoowireddd, there was no close arch ?
18:42.14GNUtoos/arch/mach
18:42.25phhdzo: you're speaking about TI WiLan thing then ?
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18:43.12phhanyway, afaik this one doesn't work on diam/raph
18:44.02dzooh, i wonder why, my diam doesn't have wifi so i cant test it.
18:44.17wiredddGNUtoo: not when I started working on the chip in the archo gmini400
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18:44.28wireddd*archos
18:44.39GNUtoowireddd, ah ok...I know archos's devices a bit
18:44.56GNUtooI've a pma430
18:45.07GNUtoomy brother has a 605 or something like this
18:45.08wiredddI used to contribute to archopen and medios before that
18:45.14GNUtoook
18:46.11GNUtoobtw I tried revive the development of pma430 but I abandoned because I didn't succeed at finding the serial cable pins
18:46.25GNUtoowireddd, there was a picture with serial for av400/pma430 but it didn't work
18:46.40GNUtoothe voltages were correct,my circuit was correct but it simply didn't work
18:46.42wiredddI never had any of the av series stuff
18:46.46GNUtoook
18:47.16GNUtoois the gmini400 worth?
18:47.33GNUtoohow far is the linux kernel port
18:47.44GNUtoois there a framebuffer?
18:48.02wiredddwe ended up not porting linux, and pretty much wrote a really basic os from scratch
18:48.29wiredddwe got doom and a few emulators and things working, but that was about it when I stopped
18:49.09GNUtoowireddd,ah ok I thought you did the basic OS and Linux...
18:49.19GNUtooI misunderstood you then...
18:50.01wiredddwe started to port linux, but decided that since it had a fairly limited processor, it was really overkill for our purposes
18:51.16wiredddI was hoping that someone already has linux loading and I would just need to add a few drivers
18:51.35wireddds/add/write/
18:51.47wiredddheh
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19:00.34wiredddyeah, it appears to be an earlier version of the proc in the freerunner
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20:45.09cr2NexVision: have you tried the latest kernel version ?
20:45.19NexVisiondont think so u upload a new one
20:46.12cr2ok, compiling
20:46.41NexVision:)
20:47.38NexVisioni love tmobile on a side note
20:47.53NexVisioni just checked there online map and they are now showing 3g in my area
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20:48.32NexVisionso i logged into web chat to ask if a rollout was in the works they said yes and gave me a 50 credit to make up for lack of 3g
20:48.39NexVisioni didnt even ask for a credit
20:49.07cr2dcordes: ping
20:49.11dcordespong
20:59.23cr2dcordes: https://privatepaste.com/achVcLa8j8
20:59.32cr2compilation warnings fixed
21:01.31cr2NexVision: uploaded
21:01.45cr2topa100-20091014-1.exe
21:02.27tids2ki hope this time it will not hang on his ppc
21:02.55cr2dzo: the dev=0xd for set_volume is hardcoded in wince
21:03.26cr2tids2k: we will see.
21:03.33tids2k:)
21:04.04cr2otherwise i need to fix the SMD channel allocations. will look right now
21:04.50tids2kcr2 any updates on maemo
21:05.03tids2kport
21:06.07cr2no. i want to finish the kernel first.
21:06.12cr2<PROTECTED>
21:06.13cr2<PROTECTED>
21:06.15cr2<PROTECTED>
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21:06.22tids2kok
21:06.25cr2this does not look good ;)
21:07.11tids2kping @ nexvision
21:07.58tids2ktime to sleep
21:07.58NexVisionfails at smae part cr2
21:08.04tids2knitez all
21:08.13tids2k!!
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21:10.23NexVisionconsole handover
21:11.06cr2NexVision: recompiling
21:11.10NexVisionkk
21:13.05cr2dcordes: calling gps still hangs arm9 ;)
21:13.34dcordesdamn arm9
21:13.59cr2i may fix the whole agps setup code.
21:14.09cr2so the agps is initialized too
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21:14.23cr2right now i commented them out
21:16.09cr2NexVision: uploaded
21:16.36cr2NexVision: if it will crash, can you connect to haret over telnet ?
21:16.47NexVisionnever tried
21:16.57NexVisionwhat do i need to do
21:17.19cr2do you have wifi ?
21:17.30NexVisionyes
21:17.32cr2well, try to boot first
21:18.04NexVisionk rebooting phone now just swapped my sim into my g1 for the time being
21:18.46cr2sim is not yet needed
21:19.51GNUtoodcordes, hi I've the 3 patches
21:20.00dcordesGNUtoo, ok
21:20.17GNUtoodcordes, if they are not perfect feel free to modify them
21:20.42NexVisionfailed at same spot again
21:20.55NexVisionthis time it double vibrated though
21:21.37cr2NexVision: can you start haret on topa ?
21:21.55NexVisionill try watever just send a me link for what u want
21:22.01cr2NexVision: do you know the topa ip address, so you can telnet over wifi ?
21:22.21NexVisionerrr
21:22.24NexVisionbeen to long
21:22.25dcordesGNUtoo, kk
21:22.30NexVisiondont remember anything
21:22.34GNUtoopatch 1: http://pastebin.com/m5274f188
21:22.48cr2NexVision: i've uploaded haret.exe
21:23.23cr2NexVision: connect to wifi ap, and look the ip address in the wifi settings
21:23.36GNUtoopatch 2 : http://pastebin.com/m6ed5528b
21:23.56NexVisionharet for device not pc right
21:24.41cr2NexVision: for topa
21:24.49GNUtoopatch 3: http://pastebin.com/m7cdccdd
21:25.04GNUtooI've put android as default
21:25.14GNUtooas it is an android kernel
21:25.22cr2+#ifdef CONFIG_FB_MSM_DOUBLE_BUFFER
21:25.24GNUtooand as the refresh patch had android as default
21:25.38cr2GNUtoo: isn't ANDROID_PMEM a better option ?
21:26.13GNUtoocr2, I don't know...I asked arround here and there was no-one maybe I was too early....
21:28.18cr2GNUtoo: i find it confusing. it's just an android-specific double buffer implementation
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21:28.26GNUtoocr2, what is ANDROID_PMEM exactly because there is no ---help--- available on that option
21:28.39GNUtooindeed it is confusing
21:28.41cr2which does not prevent you from using xserver double buffering et al.
21:29.10GNUtoobasically I wanted a better name
21:29.21GNUtoobut as I find no one I put that one
21:29.26GNUtooso it has to be changed
21:29.47NexVisionwont let me connect
21:29.57dcordesfantastic
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21:31.13cr2GNUtoo: it's a major part of android-specific graphics implementation
21:31.22NexVisioni seem to be having a issue on my machine
21:31.23GNUtooyes I know
21:31.24cr2GNUtoo: the rest is closed source
21:31.25NexVisionrebooting brb
21:31.49GNUtooclosed source??? android has closed-source graphics...did I miss something in my android builds?
21:32.18cr23D
21:32.22GNUtooit has proprietary 3d yes but framebuffer is not free?
21:32.26GNUtooah ok
21:32.35GNUtooI run it without 3d
21:32.37tuxheroGNUtoo, OpenGL implementation of MSM is closed source
21:32.38GNUtooso I'm safe
21:32.44cr2ok
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21:34.51GNUtooso what should I do? change the name and resend the patch or would dcordes fix it?
21:35.36cr2GNUtoo: leave it as is, but write the help entry
21:35.45GNUtoook thanks
21:36.38tuxherocr2 msm_ts on blackstone is raising X:0 Y:799 event when we swipe finger it's may be fine of other devices but on Blackstone it's msm_blackstone_pad is raising call button event
21:37.19GNUtooI've a question for my help,I've bad memory...can the *2 confuse kdrive or xorg(specially xorg)
21:37.28cr2tuxhero: msm_ts is such a hack, that it's not surprising
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21:37.56tuxherocr2 should i fix it in msm_ts which might require some more R&D or in msm_blackstone_pad easy one ?
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21:40.41cr2disconnected
21:41.04NexVisionwhenever i try to connect putty crashes
21:41.05GNUtooif I remember well it confuses xorg but not kdrive
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21:41.47cr2NexVision: ok. let's do it in a different way
21:42.08cr2NexVision: create the file default.txt (or startup.txt)
21:42.17cr2NexVision: and put
21:42.31tuxherocr2 should i fix it in msm_ts which might require some more R&D or in msm_blackstone_pad easy one ?
21:42.32cr2pwf crashlog 0xe0000 0x20000
21:42.34cr2there
21:42.57cr2tuxhero: fix blackstone, since nobody complained yet
21:43.11tuxherocr2 ok i will push patch
21:43.24cr2ok
21:43.26NexVisionu want me to launch it with haret?
21:43.33cr2NexVision: yes
21:43.37NexVisionkk
21:43.51cr2NexVision: the startup.txt will be launched if you start haret
21:44.04cr2without any action on your side
21:44.15GNUtoohttp://pastebin.com/m62e32a7b
21:44.19NexVisionalready named it default
21:44.23GNUtooI'll have to go to sleep soon
21:44.27NexVisionand loaded haret and hit run
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21:44.53cr2GNUtoo: ok
21:45.14cr2NexVision: pastebin the crashlog file now ?
21:45.34cr2at least the ascii part
21:46.14NexVisionhmm what to open it with
21:47.27cr2rename it to crashlog.txr
21:47.35cr2rename it to crashlog.txt
21:48.48NexVisionahh i didnt scroll down low enough
21:49.24NexVisionhttp://ppckitchen.pastebin.com/m34767874
21:52.34cr2NexVision: does not loook right
21:54.06cr2NexVision: you need to run topa100-*exe, hang, softreset, and start haret then
21:54.26NexVisionkk
21:57.56tuxheroGNUtoo, why synaptics_i2c_rmi i mean we don't have device with that hardware
21:58.10NexVisionlooks the exact same
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22:00.20cr2NexVision: ok, i'll think about it
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22:47.58mdrobnakHi all.
22:48.34dcordesmdrobnak, hi
22:50.16mdrobnakDoes anyone have working SMS *send* in Android?
22:53.15thedicemasteri seem to
22:53.33mdrobnakare you in the US?
22:53.39thedicemasteri smsed "Testing :-)" to myself.
22:53.41thedicemasterno
22:53.50mdrobnakHmm.
22:53.51mdrobnakOK.
22:53.55mdrobnakI'm in the US.
22:54.09mdrobnakI think the "00" for "+" patch might have something to do with it, but I'm not sure.
22:54.26mdrobnak(We use 011 for international access code)
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22:54.51thedicemasterbtw android ftw, smiley key! type :-) with just 1 virtual button press
22:55.59thedicemasteratleast something working for me.
22:56.25thedicemasterno wifi, no BT, no data.
22:57.57mdrobnakHmm.
22:58.03mdrobnakWhich phone?
22:58.23thedicemasterDIAM200
22:59.30thedicemastera rather uncommon version of the diamond.
22:59.34mdrobnakHmm. Yeah.
22:59.46mdrobnakWhat version of Android are you running on it?
22:59.58thedicemaster1.6 ion
23:00.36thedicemasterwith yesterday's latest kernel build from glemsom's site(one with squashFS)
23:01.07thedicemasterah wait, might be 2 days ago.
23:01.19thedicemasterdepends on where you're from.
23:01.36thedicemasterforgot it's 1AM already.
23:02.14mdrobnakhehe
23:02.19mdrobnakIt's 19:02 local.
23:02.42mdrobnakIf you're running 1.6, I can't help you..
23:02.47mdrobnakNot sure what RIL is in there.
23:02.47thedicemastermy phone did do some strange stuff when i tried to get data over phone network working.
23:03.07mdrobnakI'm using the 1.5 Ion build. Very happy with it :-)
23:03.13thedicemasterit would just reboot android at some point.
23:03.15mdrobnak(RAPH110)
23:03.22mdrobnakYou should dump the ramconsole at that point
23:03.31thedicemasteri'm not, can't enjoy the android market.
23:03.42mdrobnakMarket works on 1.5
23:03.44mdrobnak:-D
23:03.54thedicemasternot if you don't have data/wifi
23:04.00mdrobnaktrue.
23:04.38mdrobnakWell depending on how old your rootfs image was with your 1.5 install, you might have been on an older RIL, which doesn't help things.
23:04.41mdrobnakGotta run, dinner.
23:04.56thedicemasteri wonder, can those manufacturer modifications to android be disabled on original android phones?
23:05.25thedicemasterlike HTC's senseUI
23:13.12NexVisionyes sense can be diasbled
23:13.17NexVisiondisabled*
23:14.59thedicemasteri'm thinking of getting an android phone as next phone, but i'd rather have a clean android interface.
23:15.28thedicemasterwhile most good android phones get some kind of interface addon from the manufacturer.
23:22.03dcordesthedicemaster, roll your own. that's what's it about, isn't it ?
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