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00:00.00SOGI see, thanks mdrobnak I am just wondering... maybe everything loaded from the flash to the ROM, and evreything still run from ROM and flash... because my friend wanted to install it, still wondering which way I will help him install, and for mine, I just flash teh whole thing
00:02.11mdrobnakWell, if you tried it that way, and you already have it...Try the SD card method, and compare them. That's what I'd do.
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00:09.34tmztmdrobnak: yeah, and use playwav first
00:09.51tmztecho 2 > /sys/class/vogue_hw/audio
00:10.07mdrobnaktmzt: yea  that...that doesnt seem necessary in android.
00:10.29mdrobnaktmzt: But I'm not sure if it's the ril is doing that, or if it would work otherwise.
00:11.07mdrobnakI'm trying to remove the smodem stuff. I think that makes it more difficult to diagnose what's going on. Shouldn't have 2 programs trying to control the same thing, I think.
00:12.21mdrobnakLike, is the RIL supposed to start up PPPD? That seems odd to me.
00:12.53mdrobnakI wish dzo was available. :-/
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00:22.55tmztSOG: yo mean initramfs or rootfs on sd card?
00:23.19tmztmdrobnak: dzo's ril does it
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00:23.26tmztor maybe the android audio code
00:23.30tmztI will be back
00:26.39mdrobnakme too.
00:33.08SOGYeah, I think it's rootfs on sd card, does it make it slower ?
00:34.00SOGthanks mdrobnak... maybe I will try to install both, the thing is I dont have his phone yet
00:34.32mdrobnakI mean, it sounds to me like the easier one is the SD card.
00:34.54mdrobnakThat's what we use, because NAND on the MSM phones is a little dangerous.
00:35.00mdrobnak(At least the RAPH ones)
00:35.29SOGyeah, mdrobnak I think it should be easier For him too, since he doesn't run any linux operation system on his PC, so he only use all "GUI" but I just wonder which one might go faster
00:35.48SOGthanks for the opinion, I will help him install on the sd then
00:35.56mdrobnakno prob
00:39.38SOGwonder why google has become a Barcode :o
00:41.28mdrobnak?
00:42.29SOGThe main page of google has become a barcode
00:43.34SOGI mean the picture of google
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00:45.36mdrobnakNot on my pc
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01:03.54mdrobnakOk, time to try a new RIL.
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01:13.31mdrobnakthinks I may have commented too much stuff out :)
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02:21.49rafyvittoguys im trying yet another squashfs build on my raph110 using the zimage i mention erlyer, this time im trying to boot this build http://vogue-hero.googlecode.com/files/system-tattoo-100309.sqsh , but its stays at the haret console saying "59.974884 SMD: cg 0 OPENING -> OPENED
02:22.09rafyvittoand the thing is a raph100 user said that it work;t for him ><
02:22.31rafyvittoany ideas though?
02:23.01mdrobnakyou should clear your data.img file
02:24.13rafyvittodone it 1000 times xD
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02:24.39rafyvittoi even tryed using the rootfs and init from the kaiser/vougue line, that was a real mess
02:24.45rafyvittoxD
02:25.09rafyvittoi think it must be something wrong in my default.txt
02:25.22rafyvittobut i failed to realize what it is
02:26.42mdrobnakWell, the last thing is probably not helpful...what's above it?
02:27.28rafyvittooh shit it went on to boot lol
02:27.44rafyvittoi left it there and it seems its going to boot up
02:28.51rafyvittoits in the magical black screen, let see what happens lol
02:29.08rafyvittoits a hero build so it shoudl take a lil wile to boot up
02:34.21tmztcan you see if it's the kernel somehow?
02:35.58rafyvittowell the black screen is still here, and the lower touch panel is not responding
02:36.16rafyvittothe leds arnt turning on when i swipe my finger over them
02:36.36tmztso kernel has crashed
02:37.32rafyvittois it because i have a devil fuze...did i say devil? -_____- i hate att making there variants SO DIFRENT from there european counter parts
02:38.19AstainHellbringrafyvitto they arent that different
02:38.34rafyvittoi mean if it works on a raph100, it should in theory work on raph110
02:38.35AstainHellbringjust front cam removed and keyboard layout adjusted added the ptt button thats it
02:38.51rafyvittoi know there very similar
02:38.58rafyvittoi just like flaming att when ever i can
02:39.03rafyvitto=]
02:39.35mdrobnaklol
02:39.45mdrobnaktmzt: So...yeah. ppp setup is a pain.
02:40.01mdrobnakBut, here's the thing: No crashes from the ril until the second I started pppd
02:40.17tmztright, ok
02:40.17mdrobnakMaybe something is wrong with /dev/smd1 ?
02:40.29tmztpossibly, did you fix the 1->7 mapping?
02:40.30rafyvittoil try one more time, rebooting to winmo
02:40.36mdrobnak1-7?
02:40.54mdrobnakwhat's that, and when was it fixed?
02:42.21tmztsomething dzo added
02:42.26tmztlook in smd_tty.c
02:42.38tmztare you on gsm or cdma?
02:42.41mdrobnakgsm
02:42.53tmztoh, that shouldn't affect your then
02:43.02dzohi, perhaps the setupmodem script crashes the ril.
02:43.11mdrobnakNot when you rename it. ;-)
02:43.19mdrobnakHow's it going, dzo?
02:43.19tmztdo we need that script if ril can do ppp?
02:43.30mdrobnakPersonally, I don't think we need it.
02:43.39mdrobnakHowever..
02:43.49tmztdzo: what channel is ppp on non-A cdma?
02:43.50rafyvittoi give up...il keep on using the xor 1.5 build -_-
02:43.51tmztvogue/titan
02:43.52mdrobnakYou do have to handle the data set up...
02:44.00mdrobnakunless you let the java do it..which has a bug.
02:44.13mdrobnakso, manual setup for the second.
02:44.20dzogood, the ril should do ppp itself, i wrote the original code but not the current stuff.
02:44.42dzoon non-a it is 1
02:45.08dzothats why i moved it from 7
02:45.20mdrobnakAs I said, so, I put in a bunch of "In ____ function" "Leaving ____ function" calls in the RIL..
02:45.27tmztdzo: I would like to move all ppp to 7
02:45.38tmztdzo: and leave your mapping in place with a config option
02:45.39mdrobnakNo problems, sitting idle, until I started pppd on the command line..then the RIL crashed.
02:46.03mdrobnaksaying that registration status changed
02:46.42dzomdrobnak: but it does work sometimes?
02:47.09mdrobnakI think my pppd settings are wrong for the second..not sure.
02:47.45dzotmzt: what's wrong with moving it to 1, you can put the debug channel on 7 but i don't think we can use it anyway.
02:48.01tmztI'm supposed to have a diag channel on smd1, but it's disabled
02:48.09mdrobnakdzo: http://pastebin.com/d49d26d9f
02:48.28mdrobnakSo 22:31:24 is shortly before I start pppd.
02:48.35mdrobnakThen you see what happens
02:48.36dzowhat uses the diag channel?
02:48.50tmztnothing now, but I think windows is using it for something
02:48.59tmztit also seems to be involved in gps
02:49.17tmztagps
02:50.27dzomdrobnak: looks like one of those OKs came from something else.
02:51.03mdrobnakyeah, I noticed that.
02:51.10dzois the script still running.
02:51.17mdrobnakno
02:51.20mdrobnakI renamed it
02:51.58mdrobnakWow
02:51.59mdrobnakOk
02:52.01mdrobnakI killed PPP
02:52.06mdrobnakand the phone just rebooted.
02:52.09mdrobnakThat's NOT a ril problem.
02:52.37mdrobnakI was calling it manually: /system/bin/pppd /dev/smd1 nodetach debug
02:52.47mdrobnakHence why I said I didn't have enough paramaters.
02:53.34dzolook in /etc/ppp/ip-up
02:54.13tmztyou might need noauth
02:54.28dzothat's the problem, try getting rid of the echos at the end.
02:54.44mdrobnakooh...a bunch of SMS messages just came in
02:54.51mdrobnak(in windows)
02:55.35mdrobnakshit. started booting linux by accident.
02:55.41mdrobnakhopefully I didn't write over too much of the ram console
02:57.28mdrobnakdumping now
02:58.26mdrobnakweird stuff happens to the console whenever it goes into suspend
02:59.55mdrobnak[ 1951.643371] kernel BUG at drivers/char/tty_ldisc.c:199!
02:59.56mdrobnak[ 1951.643432] Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000
03:00.03mdrobnak[ 1951.643890] Process pppd (pid: 830, stack limit = 0xc5cc0260)
03:00.36dzomdrobnak: yes, power collapse is not 100% just set a wake lock if you don't want it to go into PC.
03:01.03dzohmm, i've seen that before too.
03:01.21dzolooks like the smd code needs some work.
03:01.36mdrobnakI think that may be correct.
03:01.49mdrobnakSo but whats weird is it works fine most of the time
03:04.33mdrobnakOk, I'll try and put more code into the registration state change area too. That seems to be where weird stuff happens.
03:05.24dzoi think it's /etc/ppp/ip_up thats the problem.
03:05.27mdrobnakI'm also trying to remove as much of the smodem stuff as possible. I think it's possible to remove it completely. Just the PPP connection and tear-down would have to be handled manually in there, which is fine. Or we can let android handle it. (But that code is buggy apparently, so I'll try and do it myself)
03:06.00mdrobnakLet me mount the fs image
03:06.26mdrobnak(Need to get to sleep soon, too)
03:07.39mdrobnakif [ -e /sys/class/vogue_hw/gsmphone ] ; then
03:07.39mdrobnak/bin/echo -e "AT+CREG?\r" > /dev/smd0
03:07.39mdrobnakelse
03:07.39mdrobnak<PROTECTED>
03:07.39mdrobnakfi
03:07.41mdrobnakwtf?
03:07.43mdrobnaklol
03:08.21dzoi didn't put that in there!!
03:08.34mdrobnak:-)
03:09.57mdrobnakOk, let's give that a quick whirl.
03:11.51mdrobnakbooting..
03:13.18mdrobnakhmm
03:13.19mdrobnakdied
03:13.38mdrobnakWhat's CGEV?
03:15.16mdrobnakWow. Something's definitely weird. it powered off..like wont turn back on
03:15.44mdrobnak::phew:
03:15.58mdrobnakOk, enough for tonight I think :-)
03:16.39mdrobnakI need to retry with the Git HEAD kernel, with 1 bank, to make sure no funky memory addressing / pmem anything like that is playing into this.
03:17.07mdrobnakI'll do some more tomorrow.
03:17.31mdrobnakGood call on the ip_up script dzo, didn't even know that was there. Thanks.
03:17.37mdrobnakGood night.
03:17.47dzogood night.
03:21.52rafyvittodamn i want to see, a hero build running on my fuze nefore i sell it lol
03:21.58rafyvittobefore*
03:22.51tmztyou don't seem to be far away
03:22.58tmztwhat kernel are you using now?
03:23.17rafyvittoone sec linking it
03:23.36tmztare you on linux or windows?
03:24.03rafyvittoatm windows
03:24.19tmztit would be better if you would build a kernel
03:24.31rafyvittohttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4677702&postcount=4475
03:24.45rafyvittothe raph one that glemsom build as my request
03:27.12rafyvittoraph100 users are reporting that squashfs zimage works for them
03:27.22rafyvittothe*
03:27.41tmztfrom current git?
03:29.03rafyvittoyes i supposed
03:29.27rafyvittohe also attach  patch
03:29.44rafyvittohttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4677220&postcount=4472
03:30.44rafyvittoa*
03:31.13rafyvittodamn im going to miss android when i sell my fuze and manila 3d 2.5 ;(
03:31.27tmztwhat are you getting?
03:31.36rafyvittoan acer f1
03:31.40rafyvittohopefully next week
03:31.58tmztwhat is that?
03:32.13tmztwhat cpu?
03:32.22rafyvittosnapdragon
03:32.26rafyvitto=]
03:32.51rafyvittoits cheap considering it has a snapdragon
03:33.01rafyvittoits only 507$ including s/h
03:33.22rafyvittothe toshiba tgo1 and the htc leo both for 880$
03:33.28rafyvittogo*
03:35.23rafyvittowith this acer f1 the prices of the touch pro 2 and many other devices will drop drasticly
03:35.57tmztok
03:36.08tmztwe won't have linux working until haret works
03:36.13tmzton cortex-a8
03:36.37rafyvittois the snapdragon cortex-a8?
03:39.02tmztyeah
03:39.49rafyvittowell you guys could work around the xperia 3 rom
03:39.59rafyvittowhen ever it comes out
03:40.19rafyvittosince thats going to be the first device to run android using a snapdragon
03:40.53rafyvittoi guess android will update there git to support the snapdragon right?
03:41.04rafyvittoi mean for open source project like you guys
03:43.02tmztqualcomm already has support
03:43.12tmztwe just can't boot the kernel
03:43.23rafyvittoohhh wow i dint know
03:43.39tmztcodaurora.org
03:43.47tmztcodeaurora.org
03:44.11rafyvittoso will any of you guys be getting a snapdragon device in the near future?
03:44.58tmztI want to go to omap3
03:45.02tmztso at least the soc is open
03:45.35tmztno more depending on the radio for basic tasks
03:45.46rafyvittohmm ic
03:45.56tmztso Palm Pre or n900 probably
03:46.10tmztI'm trying to get the software from n900 to run on touch pro now
03:46.16tmztor at least something siilar
03:46.37rafyvittoyou mean running symbian o0?
03:46.45tmztno
03:46.47tmztlinux
03:46.55tmztmaemo 5
03:47.02tmztmaemo.nokia.com
03:48.36rafyvittoso the kernel is not executing on qsd hardware?
03:48.51tmztthe kernel should
03:49.04tmztwe just aren't able to boot it yet
03:49.47rafyvittoso  your working with the qsd dev team on codeaurora?
03:50.53rafyvittoomg maemo 5 looks freaking sexy
03:52.18rafyvittoi had enver seen that linux mobile distro lol, its amazing
03:52.22rafyvittonever*
03:53.50tmztwell, look at wiki.maemo.org/Mer
03:54.49rafyvittohow much will the n900 be like 800$?
03:55.00tmztI think 600
03:55.05tmztunlocked
03:55.17rafyvittooh wow thats really cheap
03:55.27tmztfor what it is
03:55.40rafyvittoexacly
03:56.27rafyvittothats the same reason im getting the acer f1, lots of features, power full cpu, and runs on windows mobile =]
03:56.55rafyvittoi love using emulators on my phones, so im a cpu junky
03:57.13rafyvittoand my fuze let me down horribly on that department
04:01.19tmztn900 has a gpu driver for the sgx chip, same chip used in iPhone 3gs
04:01.47rafyvittoyeh both are using the same cpu
04:01.51tmztno
04:01.55tmztwell, same arm core
04:01.58tmztdifferent soc
04:02.04tmztn900 is omap3430 I think
04:02.10rafyvittoxD
04:02.13tmzt3gs is s5c someting
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04:02.47rafyvittothe snapdragon has a amd chipset which also supports open Gl ES 2.0 out the box
04:06.53tmztright, but it's not sgx
04:07.04tmztit's an improvement over the on in the 7x0x
04:07.11rafyvittowhat the spec of the sgx?
04:07.13tmztif you have more details that would be great
04:08.26rafyvittowell it can decode full 720p and up to 22M triangles/sec and 133M 3D pixels/sec
04:12.06tmztwith what driver?
04:12.22tmztok, I'll wait for that device mentioned
04:12.34tmztactually, Pixi should have the driver if it's the same in 7627
04:13.27rafyvittowell the acer f1 should have it alrdy
04:13.48rafyvittosince it can alrdy decode 720p, but that video acceleration hmmmm
04:13.53rafyvittoyou got me thinking now
04:15.18rafyvittothe pixi should have the same gpu as the msm7201a
04:15.29tmztno
04:15.36tmztit's supposed to have a new gpu
04:15.55rafyvittoomg they finally updated the gpu
04:16.06rafyvittoanother thing i dint know about the pixi
04:16.23rafyvittoi though it was going to be the same story as the msm7xxxx
04:17.04AstainHellbringyah pixi has like 4 chipsets doesnt it?
04:17.12AstainHellbringtmzt any idea when pixi is due out?
04:17.49tmztnot really
04:17.52tmztfour chipsets?
04:18.00AstainHellbringsomething like that if I recall right
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04:18.39tmztMer just booted to calibration !!
04:18.51rafyvittoomg grats =D
04:19.06tmztand now login:
04:19.12tmztbut X is not installed, or anything else
04:19.12rafyvittoniceeee
04:19.20rafyvittoX?
04:19.44dan-htc-fancalibration?
04:20.15tmztyeah, touch screen
04:20.20tmztwithout patches, cool
04:20.22AstainHellbringslaps dan-htc-fan
04:20.28dan-htc-fanheh
04:20.30dan-htc-fanhowdy AstainHellbring
04:20.34AstainHellbringhiya dan-htc-fan
04:20.40dan-htc-fanhow goes it?
04:20.42tmzthttp://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Releases/0.16testing
04:20.49tmztsmartq5 non-firmware version
04:20.51AstainHellbringgoes well dan-htc-fan
04:20.58AstainHellbringdan you seen the shit for HD2?
04:21.01dan-htc-fangood
04:21.04dan-htc-fan\no
04:21.07AstainHellbringhttp://www.htc.com/europe/product/hd2/overview.html
04:21.09dan-htc-fanwhat shit?
04:21.24AstainHellbringspecial in car setup
04:22.16rafyvittothe htc leo its darn sexy
04:22.22dan-htc-fandamn son, looks cool
04:22.24rafyvittobut way to pricy for my liking
04:22.24AstainHellbringvery very
04:22.28AstainHellbringand the 1ghz mmmmmm
04:22.39rafyvittothats why im getting an acer f1 instead
04:23.10dan-htc-fanmaybee htc will send me one for free, just for the hell of it
04:23.24AstainHellbringkeep dreaming there dan-htc-fan
04:23.35AstainHellbringproblem with acer is it wont have flashing protection
04:24.19rafyvittobut its a 200$ less flashing protection xD
04:26.18dan-htc-fanhow's the kaiser android battle going these days?
04:27.06rafyvittowince is loosing its battle xD
04:27.10AstainHellbringrafyvitto yes but its also TONS easier to brick that 4200 les
04:27.17AstainHellbring*$200 less
04:27.28rafyvittofor a normal user yes
04:27.33rafyvittonot for me
04:27.36rafyvitto:P
04:27.50AstainHellbringno even for you it will be
04:27.59AstainHellbringsame reason omnia is easy to brick
04:28.01AstainHellbringor TG01
04:28.58rafyvittotrust me i;ve never brick a phone, not planing on doing it anytime soon
04:29.08rafyvittoi know enough to not do so
04:29.37dan-htc-fanhas never bricked a phone either
04:30.00dan-htc-fanbut I tried damn hard on my htc vogue, just to see how easy they were to brick
04:30.14dan-htc-fanhtc's are near impossible to brick
04:31.09rafyvittoyou said it your self "nearly" impossible, i can brick my htc tornado if i want it to, it my backup phone
04:31.17rafyvittoits*
04:31.33dan-htc-fanyeah, it's definitely possible
04:32.27dan-htc-fanjust have to work at it :)
04:32.43rafyvittothankfully theres jtag for some there is lol
04:33.04dan-htc-fanhmm, never heard of succesfull jtag on an htc phone
04:33.09dan-htc-fanyou've done it?
04:33.45rafyvittonah, i've never had to do a jtag
04:33.59rafyvittoi always play it save on my phones
04:34.19rafyvittobut yes jtags are picky
04:34.28dan-htc-fanthat they are
04:35.51rafyvittotmzt: will you be releasing that maemo test build anytime soon? for us to play around with it xD
04:36.25rafyvittoor will you make us compile it our selfs :P
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04:42.52rafyvittoim out guys cya
04:42.53rafyvittogn all
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08:36.55leobaillardphh: by any chance, are you there ?
08:37.29leobaillardif not, can someone give me the link to an android discussion about WiFi : I'm trying to implement my findings in it
08:37.51leobaillardphh gave it to me but it's stuck on my other pc which I don't have here
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10:30.03FR^2Hmm. Which HTC phones are most compatible with the latest linux variants?
10:40.01tmztwell, spent the last four hours chasing old bug
10:40.22tmztirqs only on 7500 in smd.c, left out my mach after merging origin
10:40.30tmztFR^2: like?
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10:43.51FR^2tmzt: Well, the one I have is "junk" (wings 220), but I bought it without the knowledge that there are smartphones where one can run linux on. Therefore I think about buying another one that works with linux..
10:44.14tmztthat's omap?
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10:44.30tmzttry #linwizard and linwizard.sf.net, it's pretty well supported now
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11:17.26FR^2tmzt: Thanks :)
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17:18.42phhleobaillard: bipbip.
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18:42.58phhdoes anyone know an android branch to clean it up ?
18:43.24phh(there are "some" things that would *really* need to get cleaned/fixed)
18:48.21Gnutoowhat do you mean to clean?
18:48.30Gnutoodeandroidify things?
18:48.34Gnutooor make things better?
18:48.47phhi mean things like do not hardcode wifi module path.
18:48.52Gnutoolol
18:48.52Gnutoook
18:49.25phhor using evdev for input devices (like for accelerometer)
18:51.47kri5without breaking stuff :P
18:54.14phhif it's clean, then it's easy to fix
18:55.07kri5and it's easy to review :)
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19:02.43Gnutooouch I do bt with gdb and the htcdream reboots
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19:03.06Gnutoogdbserver was compiled for armv4
19:03.12Gnutoobut it should have worked anyway
19:04.10Gnutooso I'll have to read the source for the ioctl
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19:21.15cr2hi
19:21.26Gnutoohi
19:21.33cr2Gnutoo: deandroidify things = make things better ?
19:21.57Gnutoofor instance if we get alsa in the kernel we could make android use alsa
19:21.58cr2phh: want to finish with bt clock analysis
19:22.12Gnutooand that would make mplayer-static possible under android
19:22.18dilingerwhat does android currently use instead of alsa?
19:22.23Gnutooioctls
19:22.28kvaster_android can use alsa
19:22.31Gnutoothat are not alsa and not oss
19:22.36cr2phh: can you run wifi with dma=-1 ?
19:22.37kvaster_there is separate project for alsa in android
19:22.48Gnutooyes it can....(openmoko uses alsa)
19:22.53dilingerlovely
19:23.02Gnutoobut we need an alsa kernel
19:23.03kvaster_Gnutoo, I mean there is also support in android.
19:23.05cr2kvaster_: lol. if android can use X11, it will be even better :)
19:23.08GnutooI'm working on it
19:23.12phhcr2: i'm trying to run wifi on android currently
19:23.13phhwait a bit.
19:23.13Gnutookvaster_, ah ok
19:23.22cr2phh: ok
19:23.30cr2dcordes: you here ?
19:24.18phhgrrrr, where the hell did they put the firmware thing
19:24.47phhoh /etc.
19:25.04dcordescr2, ye
19:25.24cr2dcordes: topaz needs AMSS 6120 in defconfig
19:25.43cr2dcordes: i'd like to write some more clock-wince.c patches
19:26.25cr2i've downloaded this moto cliq image
19:26.48cr2it has some weird java .so to access bt
19:28.56cr2why does everybody and his friend complain about pin entry in android ? i thought it was solved long ago ?
19:29.37phhhu ?
19:29.42phhnever heard it was solved
19:30.03phhcr2: maybe it needs a fresher ril that current android builds doesn't support
19:30.15cr2ok, maybe
19:31.00cr2i think ril had some wrong handler for the error code (or the wrong error number)
19:31.20dcordescr2, it's linear algebra time for me. I'll fix the defconfig when there are more patches
19:31.32cr2dcordes: ok
19:32.04phhok, now i do hate android.
19:32.08phhno error message anywhere
19:32.12phhjust "wifi won't enable"
19:32.49cr2hehe. wifi performed an illegal operation and will be closed ?
19:33.29phhno
19:33.57phhjust impossible to start wifi in the settings
19:33.59phhnothing in dmesg
19:34.03phhnothing in logcat.
19:34.17|Jason8||well that's your problem! :P
19:36.43cr2heh ?
19:36.57cr2kiozen: "Now that Garmin has released their own Android-based phone" ?
19:41.02cr2lol. now everything having a linux kernel is "Android-based" ;-)
19:42.10phherf
19:42.36luke-jr_Garmin makes phones?
19:44.39cr2luke-jr_: they mean nüviphone
19:51.12dcordescr2, can you attain the math examinations for me pls?
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19:52.25cr2lol
19:52.33rafyvittohi everyone
19:53.37cr2dcordes: linear algebra is easy :) unless you need to deal with the jordan's normal form and such things.
19:54.27cr2dcordes: but this is certainly not the 1st semester. and not the second. even for the maths majors
19:55.09dcordescr2, it's only part of the two week 'review' before real lectures start
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19:56.52cr2dcordes: it's just to show the students that they know nothing :)
19:57.25dcordeshaha seems like it
19:57.50cr2well, to be honest, linear algebra is the most complex and the maybe the most useful thing you study in the university
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19:58.24dcordesyea they told me it will be required in most engineering classes
19:59.19cr2it's used in a lot of things, even if you don't think/know about
20:00.36dcordesanother reason to get back to exercising it :) bbiab
20:01.00mickey|dinnerdcordes: hey
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20:02.34cr2mickey|dinner: what do you want to hack today ?
20:03.57mickey|dinnersounds like a microsoft commercial ;)
20:04.18cr2lol
20:04.28mickey|dinneri need to spend some time with my wife now, but later i'd like to give the current raph100 kernel a try. didn't build one since months
20:04.34cr2destroying microsoft is a way to the world domination
20:04.50cr2ok
20:05.36cr2Gnutoo: are there any linux fm radio apps ?
20:05.59Gnutoowhat do you mean exactly?
20:06.32cr2looking for a ncurses fm radio control
20:06.32|Jason8||Any programs that can play FM radio
20:06.39cr2before i'll write my own
20:08.47Gnutooah ok ncurses
20:09.05GnutooI don't know
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20:09.12Gnutoomplayer can do v4l
20:09.28luke-jr_wouldn't FM be ALSA?
20:09.36cr2it's too high-level
20:09.38Gnutooso maybe it does fm
20:10.04Gnutoowhat's the driver for fm?
20:10.10cr2there is probably some i2c fm radio api
20:10.25cr2nothing here
20:10.31cr2it's all userspace
20:10.40cr2like gpsd
20:10.47cr2or gsmd
20:11.09cr2you send some binary packets like AT commands
20:11.18cr2and get some responses
20:11.32cr2sending can be done with hcitool
20:11.39cr2don't know how to receive
20:12.33|Jason8||well fm radio keeps working even if the OS hangs.
20:12.35|Jason8||which is awesome.
20:13.00cr2charging sl5500
20:13.23cr2|Jason8||: on diam ?
20:14.10|Jason8||on my raph100
20:14.13|Jason8||110*
20:14.14cr2ok
20:14.52|Jason8||I found that out when I was playing with no2chem's overclocking program
20:15.54cr2hehe
20:16.05cr2opie1.2 on sl5500 :)
20:16.47cr2sa1110@206MHz 64MB ram
20:16.59cr2will probably fly on raph
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20:17.46phh:)
20:18.07cr2usb0: register 'zaurus' at usb-0000:00:1d.2-1, Sharp Zaurus SL-5x00
20:18.17cr2hmm. what was the ip ?
20:18.29cr2the same as the initramfs on raph i think
20:20.00cr2hm. no
20:22.02cr2strange
20:23.13cr2129.201
20:23.15cr2weird
20:24.10cr2Host 192.168.129.201 is up (0.00053s latency).
20:24.12cr2MAC Address: 40:00:01:00:00:01 (Unknown)
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20:25.11cr2hehe. forgot the root passowrd
20:27.00phhcr2: btw, does panel suspend works for you ?
20:27.11cr2phh: it's mnot yet implemented
20:27.27cr2but i need to recheck the mddi settings
20:27.37phhhow to disable it ?
20:27.50phhcurrent diamond configuration has it, so it suspends, but won't wake up ever ...
20:28.44cr2don't know
20:28.57phhok
20:29.00cr2phh: copy the panel id code
20:29.09cr2from raph, and check with panel do you have
20:29.17cr2s/with/which/
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20:32.38cr2AstainHellbring: you have a topa100 ?
20:34.02Gnutoommm
20:34.07Gnutooresult = snd_pcm_lib_write(substream, xferi.buf, xferi.frames);
20:34.23Gnutooresult = snd_pcm_lib_write(substream, xferi.buf, xferi.frames);
20:34.26Gnutoooops
20:34.31GnutooI'll pastebin easier
20:35.09Gnutoobasically here's the code: http://pastebin.com/m65875707
20:35.18Gnutooand here where dmesg stops:
20:35.25Gnutoo[  208.147277] REMOVE_THAT:before_result
20:35.30Gnutooit get called only once
20:35.34Gnutoowhich is strange
20:35.41Gnutooand here's where mplayer stops:
20:35.58Gnutooioctl(6, 0x400c4150
20:36.23cr2Gnutoo: you need to enable RPC debug
20:36.27Gnutoonote that with playwav2 the ioctl succeed
20:36.35cr2hmm. ok
20:36.38Gnutooit get called more than once
20:37.11Gnutoocr2, you told me that yesterday...but how do I enable it? I saw no options in xconfig...in the source?
20:37.24Gnutooor did it get commited to another branch?
20:37.30GnutooI use 2.6.29
20:37.41cr2Gnutoo: #defines in the smd_rpcrouter.c
20:37.46Gnutoook thanks
20:39.42Gnutoocr2, should I try a more recent mplayer?
20:49.35cr2should not be a mplayer problem
20:49.52cr2phh: hmm. still don't understand who is cheating here
20:50.54cr2these are wince settings
20:50.57cr2<PROTECTED>
20:50.58cr2<PROTECTED>
20:51.00cr2<PROTECTED>
20:51.01cr2<PROTECTED>
20:51.48cr2g1 code applies baud_divisor=4 to get the 115200 clock, so it needs a 4X base clock speed
20:51.56cr2<PROTECTED>
20:52.09cr2it works for us.
20:52.59cr2but for the other clocks, g1 code does not have baud_divisor=4, so you don't need to multiply the base clock
20:54.09Gnutoojust to verify: ioctl(6, 0x400c4150 means that there is no response to the ioctl
20:54.09cr2but then the base clock for "4MHz rate" is 16MHz, divided by 16 gives 1MHz rate
20:54.46cr2Gnutoo: yes, it should be in D stae
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20:58.17mblancomhi !
20:59.00dcordesmblancom, 'lo !
20:59.12dcordesmblancom, how's it going?
20:59.23dcordescr2, got the patch?
21:00.22mblancomcr2: qdsp5/audio_out.c calls htc_pwrsink_set, but now there is no code behind. And htc_pwrsink.c is not compiled. Do you think it could be related to the lack of sound in the blac speaker ?
21:00.31dcordescr2, radio app to replace wince userpace radio program?
21:00.36mblancomdcordes: hi !
21:02.43cr2mblancom: what is blac speaker ?
21:03.58kri5cr2: the speaker which is used when you want handfree, for example :)
21:04.41cr2kri5: where is it physically located ? i 'm not familar with blac
21:04.45mblancomcr2: or the one used for play ring tones, or music, etc...
21:04.53kri5cr2: on the rear of the phone
21:05.04cr2ok
21:05.41cr2mblancom: g1 code defines 4 SND devices: HANDSET, SPEAKER, HEADSET and BT
21:06.06cr2in the base config
21:06.47cr2there are many other weird options, also on other msm7201A phones, but i've seen only these 4 in the wince RPC logs
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21:07.31GnutooI've retriesd and it stops at:
21:07.35Gnutoos/at/before
21:07.43Gnutooresult = snd_pcm_lib_write(substream, xferi.buf, xferi.frames);
21:07.45cr2all of these 4 needs its own IIR, equalizer, mixer etc settings.
21:07.47GnutooI'll look
21:08.04cr2this is handled by vogue_hw hack code
21:08.35mblancomok, in board-htcblackstone.c we have all of them, but if you remember, audio sound (at least in android) only works when in-calls ... and you sugested to 'power the speaker'...
21:08.55cr2also the HANDSET mic needs to be enabled by big arm9 brother, so vogue_hw sends a separate dex call to do it
21:09.54cr2mblancom: yes, somebody told me about the external speakers
21:10.15cr2they need the power amplifier gpio to be enabled
21:10.40cr2but they are on the HEADSET connector ?
21:11.13cr2you have the device, so you can do some traces.
21:11.31cr2i'm a bit confused about the blac100 audio routing
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21:13.21kri5cr2: i think it it is a little bit specific on blac100, because they're is a real 3.5" jack
21:13.32mblancom986yes
21:13.44|Jason8||does the extUSB jack still have sound out?
21:13.51mblancom986no
21:14.17cr2kri5: do you have a headset ?
21:14.32kri5cr2: no :/
21:14.38|Jason8||hmm.
21:14.44cr2mblancom986: so you use the usual 3.5" headset ?
21:14.47kri5cr2: and for the moment i have no suitable testing environement :/
21:15.19kri5cr2: just fucked up my distib :)
21:15.34cr2;)
21:19.27kri5cr2: the blac100 headset plug into the 3.5" jack
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21:20.24mblancom986well, I use the phone directly without any earphones. The sound works if you put the phone close to your ear. But the ring tones, the hadsfree function, or your earphones plugged into the jack don't works...
21:20.52mblancom986(in android)
21:20.57dcordeskri5, happens. I recently extracted a nice arm rootfs into my desktop /
21:21.30|Jason8||ROFL
21:21.31|Jason8||ouch.
21:21.55cr2mblancom986: android does not have any black magic to control sound. it should be all implemented in the kernel and some glue library
21:22.18cr2mblancom986: the most extended implementation is done for kaiser
21:22.27cr2aka msm7200
21:22.28mblancom986cr2: that is what i think..
21:23.26cr2but your setup can be verified only by dumping and tracing
21:23.55mblancom986back to my question, do you know how htc_pwrsink works ? and if could be related to powering the speaker ?
21:24.19cr2for the headset/ext_speakers you need to enable gpio (and the amplifier has some i2c interface too)
21:25.00cr2htc_pwrsink is some trace code to estimate the power consumptions
21:25.16cr2it have nothign to do with sound. and can be completely disabled
21:25.35mblancom986cr2: ok, lets forget about this idea...
21:25.42cr2the only possible negative effect may be the accuracy of the battery change estimation
21:25.54cr2s/change/charge/
21:26.15mblancom986ok
21:26.47cr2right now the vogue_hw code has 2 audio paths (afair)
21:27.39cr2so you need to take kaiser as a reference, and check what is blac100 doing for the same audio paths
21:28.10cr2and not to forget about the power gpio for the speakers/headset (already in the wiki)
21:28.41mblancom986will look to kaiser & vogue, and gpio (57). Thanks.
21:28.50cr2vogue is different
21:28.57cr2kaiser is much closer
21:29.22mblancom986ok
21:40.38dcordes|Jason8|, yes
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23:10.41marcalhi all
23:12.04marcali have an ipaq hw6945 and i want run linux
23:12.38marcalmay anybody help me?
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