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00:39.12tmztjummama: hey, you can use our update thread patch with the openmoko-msm kernel
00:49.20tmztjummama: yeah, that's one approach, X on top of surfaceflinger, but that only makes sense
00:49.36tmztif you want to use android applications
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01:08.25jummamatmzt: thanks for the info... I would be interested in running both,  I just hate vnc's slowness... got any links for X on surfaceflinger,  or is it just at "theoretically possible" stage?
01:11.34jummamaall I seem to find is people that don't realize that x11!=BBC
01:11.49jummamauhh vnc
01:12.18jummamaautocorrect ftl
01:31.44tmztjummama: theory :)
01:34.48jummamatmzt: thanks... you just saved me from hours of Google searches where I'd find the same old vnc instructions,  lol
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01:39.08jummamamaybe i should see if i can get Xegl to compile against the google ndk...
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03:17.52mdrobnakHey everyone...Quick question: Anyone got OpenMoko to compile these days?
03:18.35mdrobnakI get this error during bitbake: "/home/mdrobnak/OpenEmbedded/bitbake/tmp/work/i686-linux/guile-native-1.8.2-r1/guile-1.8.2/libguile/guile.c:72: undefined reference to `lt__PROGRAM__LTX_preloaded_symbols'"
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03:19.19mdrobnakAnd while the concept is cool, it would be nicer if bitbake used the native -dev stuff available..
03:42.28mdrobnakIf anyone knows of an OpenMoko build that'll run on the RAPH, please let me know...I'm interested in trying something non-Android to rule it out.
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07:38.28tmztmdrobnak: there was a a way to build for msm
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08:27.03leobaillardhi there
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08:42.21leobaillardhi phh, are you in there ?
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08:48.34leobaillarddoes anyone has an idea about the buggy rar archive I'm getting from connect-utb ? when I explore it, I can see all the files, but I'm unable to extract anything appart from the folder tree...
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09:14.23thedicemasterleobaillard which rar archive?
09:14.47leobaillardandroid-diam-090909.rar
09:15.10leobaillardbut I fetched it from another website, my problem is now that android doesn't recognise my pin code
09:15.21leobaillardso the screen won't unlock :/
09:15.51thedicemasterpin codes are broken in android on windows phones.
09:16.09thedicemasteryou need to disable pin codes in windows mobile.
09:16.33leobaillardokay, I thought it had been solved considering that the notice wasn't present
09:16.38leobaillardthx for the tip
09:17.20leobaillarddoes rebooting works ?
09:18.53thedicemasterdon't think so.
09:19.01thedicemasternormal shutdown should work though.
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11:10.57mdrobnakOpenEmbedded doesn't compile guile correctly on Ubuntu 9.04
11:12.03ali1234mdrobnak: just the person
11:12.33ali1234rmk just posted some message on the ML about debugging kernel virtual memory errors on arm
11:15.41ali1234did you try enabling DEBUG_VM btw?
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11:30.41mdrobnakNo, I don't think I did.
11:33.25mdrobnakI can't remember if 107MB + moving stuff to the other bank worked, or if it was a NULL pointer dereference.
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11:44.57mdrobnakMaking now: 107MB bank 0, no bank 1, All PMEM at top of bank 1 128, VM Debugging on.
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13:04.15leobaillarddoes someone knows where I can set the APN settings once android is up and running ? (like it is specified in the wiki - I've done the modifications in default.txt)
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15:04.48townkatsomeone please take a look at my dmesg pls ? ;)
15:05.02townkathttp://pastebin.com/mefa001d
15:05.16townkatthe screen output stops at   [   44.696868] ieee80211_crypt: registered algorithm 'NULL'
15:05.37townkatbut it seem to continue the loading in background
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16:31.43Captnoordmdrobnak how are things with freeing more memory?
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16:34.20c4softwarehi everyone
16:34.33Captnoordyo
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17:11.07pr0pgit is always so slow ? or its only on my comp ?
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17:24.43Weisspr0p: hmm.. it should be FAST.. except perhaps when working with large files (100MB+)
17:25.21Weisspr0p: don't forget that it's a distributed VCS, i.e. when you do "git clone" you're downloading the entire history of the project, not just the current state
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17:35.53pr0pWeiss: thanks , since i know the kernel is 120MB+ i know it might be slow , but i am waiting for 2 hours already and not even 1% :(
17:35.53pr0pReceiving objects:   0% (4200/1268710), 1.41 MiB
17:36.55Weisswhere are you downloading from? how fast is your connection usually?
17:37.28kvasterit's strange
17:37.41kvasteri've downloaded it in a 30 minutes approx.
17:38.02phhi think i did in even less time
17:38.32Weisspr0p: is the number 4200 increasing at all?
17:39.24pr0pwell i am from israel , but i have a fast connection and i can get to 300k
17:39.57pr0pReceiving objects:   0% (4694/1268710), 1.54 MiB
17:40.05pr0pits increasing , heh
17:40.15Weisswhere are you downloading from?
17:40.19phh300k fast ?
17:40.22phhhum hum.
17:40.45phhi'm currently downloading at 1.6MB(not b.)/s and i think it's slow :D
17:42.11pr0pwell how can i know where is it downloading from ?
17:43.02Weisswhat did you type to start it?
17:44.05pr0pgit clone git://git.linuxtogo.org/home/groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git
17:44.28pr0pcan i switch to some other mirror ?
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17:45.33Weisseven if there isn't an exact mirror, you can clone some other repository then add the linuxtogo one as a new remote and pull (it'll only download what it needs, which might be very small)
17:51.03pr0pwell since i am new to git , i dont have the understanding for doing such ... :(
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17:52.42Weissit goes like this: git clone git://somewhere/something.git; cd something; git remote add somename git://somewhereelse/somethingsimilar.git; git fetch; git checkout -b mynewbranch somename/branchname
17:55.34Weissthe key to remember is that a branch (in Git) is only like a post-it note attached to some point in history
17:58.11pr0pbut where can i locate the kernel.git ? if i want it from another mirror ...
17:58.35Weissgit.kernel.org is a good place :)
18:00.24Weissbut, all of this assumes that the problem is with git.linuxtogo.org. if it's at your end, that won't help
18:01.20pr0psudo git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/kernel.git   <-- this should do the trick , right ?
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18:02.35pr0pactually , i see no mobile linux kernel over there
18:03.24[1]Captnoordwiki boys
18:03.26[1]Captnoordread the wiki
18:04.56Weisspr0p: yep. it doesn't matter that it's not mobile linux, I'm just assuming that something like 95% of what's in the Mobile linux repository will be the same as what's in the kernel.org one. What I'm getting you to do is to tell Git it can get that 95% from somewhere else, possibly faster
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18:06.01pr0pok , i will try to get it first from some other place and complete with linuxtogo , thanks !
18:09.55Weisspr0p: I got 5855 KiB/s from git.linuxtogo.org though, so I suspect the problem may be at your end..
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18:11.28pr0pyeah, living in israel sucks :( i might just week
18:11.31pr0pwait*
18:11.34ridDELLboxanyone having any luck with android on the touch pro raphael?
18:11.55phhridDELLbox: it works for a lot of people
18:12.27ridDELLboxphh, not me though, it starts to boot, then just powers off
18:12.43Marajin_phh: ridDELLbox: Fairer to say, it boots for a lot of people, work is a bit subjective ;)
18:13.02ridDELLboxhehe, that I agree with
18:13.07phhMarajin_: data works, phone works, sms works, 3D works, panel works most of the time
18:13.09phhso i'd say it works
18:13.13phheven if some features are still missing
18:13.19ridDELLboxwell I just compiled a kernel for it, so we shall see if it will boot
18:13.19Marajin_does PM work?
18:13.26ridDELLboxphh, I have a cdma phone
18:13.29Weisspr0p: if all you want is a copy of the latest work (not interested in working with your own branches etc), then you could investigate Git's shallow clone
18:13.29phhMarajin: yes
18:13.33phhMarajin: only panel won't shut down
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18:13.36phh(or badly)
18:13.42phhso it still consumes a bit more than on windows
18:13.47phh(but backlight does shut off)
18:13.48c4softwarepanel works for hitachi based panel.
18:13.58Marajinwhen'd they fix audio?
18:13.58phhc4software: depends on how lucky you are.
18:14.05phhMarajin: audio is broken ?
18:14.09MarajinI know they were getting close recently but never remember them getting it working
18:14.23Captnoordre
18:14.29phhit works on my diamond, so that seems weird for it not to work on raph
18:14.31MarajinRaph/Blackstone/Diam/Kovs/etc all had nonworking audio
18:14.35Marajinyou could place calls but no sound
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18:14.37Captnoordhad yes
18:14.43Captnoordgot sound on my raph now
18:14.43Captnoord:P
18:14.50phhMarajin: it works for my diam.
18:14.54c4softwareon mine with dzo release, sound is working
18:15.04Marajinwell evidentally, question is _when_ did they do it :p
18:15.06pr0pWeiss: i am just starting , but i want to do it from the start and continue from there , my HTC HD need android or it might just be thrown away :)
18:15.18Marajinpr0p: poor blackstone :p
18:15.35Marajinmy kovsky is starting to tick me off too much though, I'm ordering a palm pre on the 16th
18:15.41pr0pwell my brother will be happy , cause i throw stuff at him
18:15.44phhc4software: you're here today for a long time ?
18:15.47pr0pand he wants it :)
18:15.59c4softwareyes, for a long time, why ?
18:16.01Marajinpr0p: haha, he will learn the errors of his ways in a few weeks ;)
18:16.28c4softwareright now i will eat. but after yes i will be here. :)
18:16.30phhc4software: i think i'll do a demo linux release for wifi and BT (meaning it will dump calibration, do iwlist scan and hcitool scan)
18:16.39phhand i will need testers :p
18:16.41c4software:p
18:16.59Captnoordfor what phone?
18:17.11Marajinc4software: eat? wossat? we should just hook the htc-linux room patrons up to caffeine + glucose IVs :p
18:17.25c4softwareu have made a script for all command phh ?
18:17.39phhc4software: won't be long for calibration
18:17.53phhonly 3 commands or something like
18:18.03c4softwareyep just chain all comand
18:18.13phhand maybe some error checks
18:18.49c4softwareu don't have the modify driver for android ?
18:19.08ridDELLboxhehe I just want to replace my windows mobile
18:19.23phhc4software: still not
18:19.29ridDELLboxdangit, my kernel did the same thing, started to boot, then just powered off
18:19.35c4softwareMrPippy don't have one ?
18:19.45MarajinridDELLbox: Well to be fair, having played with even a fairly full function android install, I don't like it much
18:19.58MarajinWebOS just looks slicker and there's no waits for people to get things working
18:20.14MarajinI really loved the screen on my kovsky but the OS is bugging the hell outta me
18:20.18ridDELLboxMarajin, will WebOs work on the touch pro?
18:20.35MarajinridDELLbox: Uh.. in theory it might but I doubt anyone has managed to even start porting it
18:20.47ridDELLboxyeah that sucks
18:21.07MarajinridDELLbox: don't forget it's primarily aimed at HVGA screen phones and prolly wouldn't cope well on VGA/WVGA
18:21.41ridDELLboxI wonder why the heck my touch pro just shuts down
18:21.43MarajinI actually dunno if I'll miss WVGA so much, I mean the WVGA screen I have is gorgeous for images/video but the damn thing lags so bad you can't really use it for video anyway
18:21.54pr0pphhh: want me to check it on the HD ? :P
18:21.59Marajinwhereas by all accounts the pre tends to be slick all the time
18:22.10Marajinat least until you end up with 16+ apps running simultaenously
18:22.21ridDELLboxso palm pre uses webos, hrmm I though it was using android lol
18:22.23Marajinand it's multitouch! woo
18:22.26phhpr0p: HD ?
18:22.35phhdon't know which one is that
18:22.40MarajinridDELLbox: Er no, WebOS is developed by palm exclusively for their new phones (pre, pixie, etc.)
18:22.41pr0pblackstone
18:22.50ridDELLboxMarajin, ahh hehe
18:23.16phhpr0p: i won't do it, but i guess someone will be make it really easily
18:23.17Marajindidn't you notice it's waaaay prettier than stock android phones? :p
18:24.52phhyeah i think raphael is the best phone in the world
18:24.56phhthe next one being diamond
18:25.03phh(such a shame i bought diamond.)
18:26.22c4softwareme i prefer the diam, the raph is too big
18:26.36pr0pif it had android , blackstone might win your diamond !
18:27.14phhpr0p: what's his spec ?
18:27.14ridDELLboxc4software, it is thick not big
18:27.28phhc4software: i prefer a real keyboard
18:27.43c4softwareyep on the g1 its cool :).
18:27.45phhand i already have a  double size battery :p
18:28.05c4softwarebut in the pocket a thiner phone its cool :)
18:28.13ridDELLboxdouble size battery, how long do you get then?
18:28.47phhi think it can do something like two days
18:28.57phh(meangin from 8am to 8pm the day after)
18:29.11phhwith push and 3G and so on
18:29.26phhconsidering that most of the time i have poor reception
18:30.18ridDELLboxphh, I dont even get 8 hours on my touch pro
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18:37.48MarajinridDELLbox: phh: to be honest my kovsky gets 2-3 days of push + 3G even with the standard battery so.. :p
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18:38.13Marajinyou use a lot of talk time?
18:38.26ridDELLboxhrmm getting an error before it finishes booting...unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference....
18:38.42phhlot of internet/webradio
18:38.54Marajinthat'd do it
18:40.08phhwell when i mean lot of
18:40.11phhit's an hour a day.
18:40.15Marajinheh
18:40.17Marajinyeah
18:40.31Marajineven on an extended battery I wouldn't expect it to last more than a few hours
18:41.25phhi can watch TV for something like 3 or 4 hours ! :)
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18:42.08ridDELLboxMarajin, boots after that dont show the error, but it just powers off...I wonder where the issue is
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19:01.39phhc4software: i'll need a beta tester in something like ten minutes :D
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19:35.47phhgroumpf, i'm getting "race" conditions to start wifi
19:35.59phhit seems i have to greatly raise the settling times ...
19:37.34leobaillardyou managed to get the wifi working ?
19:37.52phhyep
19:37.56phhwhen i do by hand it works
19:37.59phhnot when scripted ...
19:38.47cr2phh: i've extracted the both EE, and they are identical
19:38.54phhgreat
19:38.55leobaillardI'm happy, thanks to you I have an almost working android :)
19:38.57cr2the position is the same as in wiki
19:39.21phhWTF IS WRONG WITH THIS STUPID WIFI DRIVER
19:39.29cr2but wiki still needs some corrections. the MFG area has wince dmesg
19:39.40phhcalms down.
19:40.23leobaillardI just experienced some trouble with the data connection... It worked great at first, but then, after a reboot, the connection was "blinking" and I was forced to delete it... is there a work around for that ?
19:40.51phhleobaillard: wait several minutes to establish
19:41.03phhi can take from 30s to 10minutes
19:41.24townkatsomeone please take a look at my dmesg pls ? ;)
19:41.26leobaillardand btw, do you have any clue aout what could cause the non detection of the battery charger ?
19:41.46luke-jris it possible to blow WinCE away at all?
19:41.51leobaillardphh: even if the connection is established and then disconnects ? it is "normal" ?
19:41.55phhluke-jr: not yet
19:41.59cr2luke-jr: everything is possible
19:42.00luke-jr:/
19:42.01phhluke-jr: many initialisations are missing
19:42.11townkathttp://pastebin.com/mefa001d
19:42.16townkatthe screen output stops at   [   44.696868] ieee80211_crypt: registered algorithm 'NULL'
19:42.18townkatbut it seem to continue the loading in background
19:42.20phhleobaillard: if it is really established then it's not really normal
19:42.49leobaillardwell, by established, I mean that the little G or 3G symbol appears near the reception bars
19:43.13leobaillardbut I'm still unable to access the market or a web page
19:43.16phhyeah that doesn't mean anything
19:43.20phhcheck the "modem" application
19:43.24phhonce it gets an ip
19:43.27leobaillardokay, so I will give it another shot
19:43.28phhit won't stop for a long time :)
19:43.43leobaillardthx a lot, I'm gonna try
19:44.39leobaillardfirst, I have to find the wapsfr connection parameters again...I bookmarked it, but on an other pc :/
19:44.56cr2townkat: [   18.872924] <3>mddi_wait_interrupt 1, timeout waiting for 20000, INT = 23a000, STAT = 808061 gotint = 20000
19:45.16cr2townkat: there are some lcd setup problems
19:46.13phhtownkat: use yourboard.panel=0 until someone fixes it then
19:46.28phh(or just fix it :D)
19:47.58townkatohh, thank you
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19:48.39townkatshould it be something like blackstone_panel=0 in cmd line ?
19:48.46townkator in some .c ?
19:49.12c4softwaretownkat: dzo have had an specific option for sharp panel (board_htcdiamond-panel=2)
19:49.31phhboard-htcblackstone.panel=0
19:49.36phhgrr
19:49.42phhboard_htcblackstone.panel=0 then
19:50.04townkatwhere is this ? in cmd line ?
19:50.17phhyes
19:53.12leobaillardphh: for the modem application, should I click on "connect" ?
19:53.17phhleobaillard: no
19:53.25phhyou just have to wait
19:53.30leobaillardoops, too late :s
19:53.39phhit won't change anything don't worry
19:54.04leobaillardit's changing from "Done!" to "Starting pppd..."
19:54.10phhnormal
19:54.12phhjust wait
19:54.13leobaillardokay :)
19:54.35leobaillardonce it's established, it's for good ? until next reboot I guess...
19:54.44phhit seems so to me
19:55.03leobaillardok, does it matters if the phones goes to sleep mode during the connection ?
19:55.20phhdon't think
19:56.44leobaillardwaow ! You're from Nancy \o/
19:56.55leobaillardsorry... :-$
19:57.05phhwhy ?
19:57.29leobaillardI've juste seen it on the forum, it's where I was born and I live in Metz :)
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19:57.58phhyeah but metz just sucks.
19:58.02leobaillard^^
19:58.16leobaillardI'm in Paris for my studies, so...
19:58.33phhi will next year i guess
19:59.43leobaillardmaybe we'll meet, who knows :) I would be delighted to meet a kernel code guru :)
20:00.01phherr
20:00.09phhi'm really far from being a kernel code guru ...
20:00.19phhi've written mmm wait... something like 0 kernel code.
20:00.36leobaillardyeah, maybe, but you're so very ahead from me in coding...
20:02.59kvasterjust finished with compiling latest donut code... but it seems it will be not easy to launch it on current blackstone kernel...
20:03.27phhmany things got broken ?
20:03.46kvasterit seems.. initial boot is broken
20:03.58kvasterwill be rechecking all the stuff - maybe my scripts are wrong
20:04.29phh(i hate android not being linux.)
20:07.37leobaillardwhat do you meen by that phh ?
20:07.46phhby what ?
20:07.53phhandroid is not linux ?
20:08.01leobaillardyep
20:08.02phhjust that andoir uses way too many hacks.
20:08.06phhandroid*
20:08.12phhit just no more linux
20:08.15phhnot the same wifi stack
20:08.17phhaudio stack
20:08.24phhgraphic stack
20:08.41leobaillardpity...linux is so simple, well...the upper layer :-°
20:08.55phhnot even the same debugging interfaces
20:09.00leobaillarderf
20:09.18leobaillardwhat a mess for the developers !
20:09.34phh(even if android debugging things are great
20:09.56leobaillardbtw, isn't it possible to reuse the api code that had been doscivered under winmo for the accelerometers ?
20:10.05phhhu ?
20:10.33leobaillardyeah, I found, back in the time, an api exploiting the accelerometer under WinMo
20:10.41leobaillardthe code had been broken
20:10.42phhyeah but how useful would that API be ?
20:12.24cr2phh: an accelerometer interface for gpsd would be cool
20:12.25leobaillarddon't knwow...I've seen that the accelerometers are not yet working...I thought it may help ? but maybe I'm just talking nonsense, like usual...
20:12.40kvasterphh: +1 - android is NOT linux
20:12.59cr2but it's more or less gpsd programming. the kernel is already ok.
20:13.01phhcr2: like making a false north indicator ?
20:13.10phh(don't know how we say that in english /o\à
20:13.10phh)
20:13.14kvastercr2: do wee need to have /dev/dsp at all for sound ? seems android needs /dev/eac, but it is just a link to /dev/dsp
20:13.28kvaster?
20:13.34cr2kvaster: eac is some omap thing
20:13.36phhleobaillard: accelerometers *do* work
20:13.43phhleobaillard: just not recognized by android
20:13.47phhalways same thing
20:13.51phhworks for linux, not android.
20:13.55leobaillardoh...sorry, I didn't know
20:14.03kvastercr2: but is seems that android need it for sound...
20:14.04cr2leobaillard: many things work, but are not used by android
20:14.21c4softwareyep accelerometers its detect, return good data when you cat it. But android do not detect it
20:14.30cr2leobaillard: it was for a long time with the umts data channel
20:14.35kvasteri'm starting to hate android internals
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20:15.26leobaillard:/
20:15.59cr2kvaster: i'm not an android expert. i've looked at the source only to see what they do with theie nonstandard interfaces. like gps
20:16.04cr2and audio
20:16.05c4softwaremaybe when all drivers are good. mobline mobile can be great
20:16.17phhmoblin*
20:16.37kvasterme too - i'm just trying to launch sound in android
20:16.37kvaster;)
20:17.18cr2c4software: when all core libraries in g1 are replaced by free software, android may become usable. at least for me.
20:17.36phhcr2: i don't care about free software (well somehow i do.)
20:17.54phhi just care about using linux way of doing things
20:18.17cr2but i still doubt that this layered java stuff can perform better than the real hardware
20:18.38cr2phh: linux is what it is only because it's free software
20:18.52phh(troll \o/)
20:19.11cr2:)
20:19.13phhcr2: sure, i'm more in the torvalds' way of thinking
20:19.37phhfree software is just a way not a goal
20:19.43c4softwarecr2: you porting all G1 librairies by an equivalent in free softwre ?
20:19.56cr2c4software: more or less yes
20:19.58phhc4software: we will have to anyway
20:20.23cr2we need our own gps, phone AT and audio implementation
20:20.32cr2and camera. maybe,
20:21.07c4softwarehmm okay. i have a G1 too. but i don't really use. I wanna run Debian on it. (it will be fun) but i don't have time to try it
20:21.09phhhow is gps done currently ?
20:21.10cr2c4software: it's not porting, it's replacement
20:21.20phhisn't it just NMEA ?
20:21.37phhwould be way too simple ?
20:21.40cr2not on all msm phones
20:22.00cr2and to get nmea you need to kick the amss over rpc
20:22.29cr2if you don't want agps things should be easy.
20:22.55phhis agps really useful ?
20:23.02kvasterjust a bit
20:23.02cr2i will not waste my time with agps
20:23.11kvasterbut there is no agps in my country
20:23.24kvastertwo accelerometers would be much more usefull then agps
20:23.38phhwhy ?
20:23.44phhcan't see how useful would that be
20:24.00kvasteryou can track your movements with much more highe precision
20:24.09cr2there are different agps flavours
20:24.09phhhum ok
20:24.17kvastertwo accelerometers = you can track exactly how your phone is rotated / moved e.t.c.
20:24.30cr2ephemeris download may be useful, but it's just not worth the PITA to RE
20:25.11phhcr2: if "suspend" works, it's useless
20:25.48cr2and contacting the qualcomm servers directly, you are taking part in  the spyware & tracking network.
20:25.53leobaillarddoes the application download works ? I'm trying one but it's stuck on "starting download..."
20:26.06cr2which is evil.
20:26.07phhleobaillard: it is supposed to yes
20:26.14leobaillardmmh
20:26.51cr2even if we will RE it, qualcomm will answer wit h the laywers. so i'd say: keep away from this crap, it's really not worth it.
20:29.36cr2phh: the hitachi spi init is the same on raph100, like on diam. i've checked it
20:30.01cr2phh: now i need to implement the lcd power and vregs properly.
20:30.36phhok
20:30.53leobaillardI suppose taht the battery charging things also works in linux and not in android ?
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20:31.06c4softwarecr2: i don't understand who you can make an init for the panel.
20:31.09cr2have a look at the gps driver. i've copied the core from kaiser, and it's scary
20:31.27cr2c4software: ?
20:31.33phhcr2: s/who/how/ ...
20:31.45phhleobaillard: no, you have to have your phone connected when on WM
20:32.18c4softwaremine its a sharp i take a lot of trace for dzo. i have look some code on htcboarddiamond_panel. But its seems really complicated.
20:32.19cr2phh: why does the battery charger not work as expected ?
20:32.27leobaillardyeah, I know that, but I wanted to know (just to know), why it wasn't working properly :)
20:32.40cr2phh: the monitor may be not perfect, but the charging logic is well known. i think.
20:33.35phhcr2: not sure, the htc battery debug thing gives 4 differents percentages
20:33.35phhsome seems more realistic than other
20:33.35cr2phh: which program is that ?
20:33.36phhi guess one might me voltage, the other one current counter or maybe such things
20:33.36leobaillardoh, btw, is there a way to deactivate the security that *tries* to turn down the phone when reaching 15 supposed % of the battery ?
20:33.45cr2the monitor queries 5 values from pmic.
20:33.49phhcr2: it's in the archive in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416334
20:33.59phhleobaillard: android thing you know :p
20:34.37leobaillardhuhu, not customizable I presume ?
20:34.39phhcr2: if you need to reverse engineering anything, these tool might be useful actually
20:34.44phhleobaillard: ho it surely is
20:34.48phhjust no idea where and how.
20:34.51leobaillard^^
20:35.16cr2phh: ok
20:35.46cr2phh: fieldtest may be more fun. it relies only on AT commands
20:37.01phhfieldtest ? don't know that one
20:38.15cr2umts trace tool
20:39.09phhhum don't know that one
20:40.40phhcr2: interested in a zImage+initramfs which will try to activate wifi automagically ? :-)
20:41.02phh(and bt but that's an easy one.)
20:41.46phhhttp://husson.hd.free.fr/angstrom-bt+wifi.cpio.gz / http://husson.hd.free.fr/zImage-27-09-2009
20:41.55phh(timings are still *really* slow to settle wifi)
20:42.39cr2phh: how do you prevent wifi from cutting the BT power ?
20:42.48phhhu ?
20:42.51phhi had nothing to do
20:43.04cr2they share 1 gpio
20:43.17cr2so disabling wifi will disable bt
20:43.22phhoh
20:43.38phhyou just can't disable wifi anyway
20:43.44cr2rmmod ?
20:44.04phhit won't stop wifi power (maybe radio ?)
20:44.15phhand actually stoping wifi will crashes the system
20:44.23phh(with using trout_wifi_power(0);
20:45.13phhthat's maybe because bt collapse with wifi then
20:46.26phhmmm
20:46.33phhyou can stop wifi radio with the wifi driver
20:46.48phh(echo 0 > /sys/class/rfkill_backport/rfkillX/state );
20:47.08phhwithout proper battery reading i can't be sure if this actually does something still
20:47.32phhcr2: "
20:47.32phhThere are two EEPROM copies of 0x800 (2K) size
20:47.32phh<PROTECTED>
20:47.38phhi thaught it was 25 ?
20:48.21phhhttp://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=RaphaelNAND yup that it
20:48.22cr2editing
20:48.25phh:)
20:50.09cr2would like to compare eeproms
20:51.33phhemail address ?
20:52.35cr2cr2@htc-linux.org
20:54.11cr2btw, do you know how to send a raw BT cmd with hcitool ?
20:54.12phhsent
20:54.15cr2ok
20:54.57phhdon't think you do that with hcitool
20:56.04cr2i think you can
20:56.12cr2i've just forgot how
20:56.53cr2you can replace the bt addr on some chips
20:57.13cr2i remember  that on the universal the bt address was different in wince and linux :)
20:57.19cr2brf6150
20:57.22phherf
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20:58.30cr2cmd <ogf> <ocf> [parameters]
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20:58.38cr2trivial :)
20:58.47phhok
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20:59.44cr2but i forgot the speed change syntax
21:00.49cr2hm. forgot to look for bt gps again
21:01.59cr2phh: you don't have the 0x40 header
21:02.10phhcr2: i sent both files
21:02.18phhcalibration.1 has the header
21:02.29leobaillardoh cr**... my phone just turned itself down oO
21:02.30cr2it should start with 51 12 ee 00
21:02.40leobaillardor maybe it's crashed... :s
21:02.48cr2aka 0x00ee1251
21:04.17phhok, that dump was from c4software, that's why it sucks :p
21:04.44imfloflo_PolarispHH lol poor c4software :p
21:04.46c4software.. you said i'm suck bad :(
21:04.59c4softwareyou suck too imfloflo_Polaris
21:05.04phhc4software: still waiting your photo :p
21:05.06cr2lol
21:05.13cr2imfloflo_Polaris: seen your pm
21:05.56cr2imfloflo_Polaris: your bt is on uart1DM, and your cpu is different. so you may need to do some more debugging.
21:05.57phhcr2: sent
21:06.02phhand mine do have the header :)
21:07.08cr2phh: yes. f0 02 00 00
21:07.18phhhu ?
21:07.29phhod gives me
21:07.31phh0000000 1251 00ee 0002 0000 4127 0000 02f0 0000
21:07.47cr20000 02f0
21:08.08cr2i do bytes
21:08.37phhhttp://husson.hd.free.fr/TTT is better ?
21:08.47cr2phh: it's ok
21:09.25cr2you have different die
21:11.39cr2and more data in the header
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21:17.01cr2[So Sep 27 2009] [16:45:48] <cr2>       version is 45,49,4a
21:17.15phhand which one do i have ?
21:17.39cr26.3.7
21:18.17cr2i have the same
21:18.37cr2but there are some differences. in the header, and in the cal
21:19.41Captnoordhmmmmm
21:19.43Captnoordandroid q1
21:19.44Captnoordhttp://deja.jails.nl/trashbin/android_q1.jpg
21:21.42cr2phh: do you see your ethernet address in ee ?
21:23.34cr2crc is probably crc32
21:23.37cr2htc likes it
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21:25.41phhwlan2     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1F:DF:25:A9:EE
21:26.42phhcr2: by the way, what are rmnet{0,1,2} ?
21:27.00cr2different amss
21:27.13cr2we have ppp
21:29.16cr2phh: do you have windows ?
21:29.29phhnot easily
21:29.47cr2you should try to dump your nand using itsutils
21:29.59cr2some patterns are strange.
21:30.39cr2and i have some differences between msm_nand dump and wince
21:31.06phhcr2: weird thing about wifi's power management:
21:31.14cr2that's probably the main reason for not flashing linux. yet
21:31.26phhif i do ifconfig wlanX down (or echo 0 > /sys/rfkillblabla for wifi)
21:31.32phhradio will shut down
21:31.36phh(but not the chip)
21:31.41phhifconfig up won't make it up again
21:31.51phhbut trout_wifi_power(1) will
21:32.29cr2cho 0 > /sys/rfkillblabla
21:32.41cr2is trout_wifi_power(0) ?
21:32.45phhno
21:32.51phhit's something made by the wl12xx driver
21:32.53cr2why?
21:33.04cr2hmm. ok
21:33.32cr2i eed to look at wl12xx closer
21:33.49phhanyway you'll have to fix timings :p
21:33.50cr2i can remember only something about old acx100
21:33.56phhc4software has still troubles getting the driver up
21:34.22phhhe get even more timeouts than i do
21:34.23c4softwareyep with your script, its seems non working. But yesterday i works
21:34.33cr2is wl12xx visible over gitweb ?
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21:34.45phheven if sd frequency set to 150k
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21:35.42cr2phh: you may put msleep(100) before enabling vregs
21:35.49cr2it's what wince is doing
21:36.03phhwill do, first sleep
21:36.12cr2ok
21:36.14phhcr2: wl12xx is in linux-wireless
21:36.27phhmaybe even just recent linux
21:37.00townkati tested it in various ways: board-htcblackstone.panel=0, board_htcblackstone.panel=0, board_htcblackstone-panel
21:37.00townkatthe error is still there:
21:37.00townkat<3>mddi_wait_interrupt 1, timeout waiting for 20000, INT = 23a000, STAT = 808061 gotint = 20000
21:37.00townkatany other ideas ? :)
21:37.02cr2i can tell you something about recent linux: i don't have wifi working on both notebooks
21:37.21phh:)
21:37.37cr2b43 on amd64 and ath5k on atom
21:37.52phhcan't find any gitweb about it
21:37.54phhstrange.
21:38.28cr2so i use old pcmcia prism2 11mbit card ;)
21:38.47phhouch
21:39.00phhgroumpf, my SD card is damn slow
21:39.53phh("Internal Storagee" should i say)
21:40.56phhtownkat: oops
21:41.00phhit's panel_type not just panel
21:41.27phhhum not sure
21:41.33townkatboard_htcblackstone.panel_type=0 ?
21:42.00phhmaybe
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21:42.45phhor board_htcblackstone_panel.type=0....
21:42.49phhsourcecode is rather unexplicit
21:43.10townkatthnx, ill try
21:43.39tmztcr2: raph500 XC: 800000
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21:46.29cr2tmzt: it's raph100 only. i think
21:46.34cr2tmzt: you have epson ?
21:47.33cr2fglrx                2070540  20
21:47.43cr2it's some ati monster ?
21:48.17cr28866 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1773.018 FPS
21:48.55cr2direct rendering: Yes
21:48.56cr2server glx vendor string: SGI
21:48.58cr2server glx version string: 1.2
21:49.05cr2yeah
21:49.08cr2OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
21:49.09cr2OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon Xpress Series
21:49.11cr2OpenGL version string: 2.1.7873 Release
21:49.48tmztwhere's this from
21:50.09cr2my notebook
21:50.12tmztare the msm r200
21:50.16tmztoh
21:50.40tmztdidn't think so
21:50.41cr2phh: there are too many differences in calibration
21:50.52cr2tmzt: have you already dumped eeprom ?
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21:51.06tmztis XC same as raph800
21:51.16tmztdumped nand
21:51.21cr2raph800 is completely different
21:51.37tmztno header at place in wiki
21:51.40cr2full nand ?
21:51.56cr2does it start with spl ?
21:52.56tmzthaven't checkd
21:53.50tmzta loot of oob errors
21:54.29cr2tmzt: your lcd setup looks more like raph800
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21:54.41cr2cc,x20,x29,00
21:55.04x29ahihi
21:55.05townkattested with board-htcblackstone.panel_type=0 board_htcblackstone.panel_type=0 board_htcblackstone_panel.type=0, still the same  error .. :(
21:55.14imfloflo_Polariscr2: no pm on xda :s
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21:57.10tmztis lcd init still commented out?
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21:58.44townkat?
21:58.47cr2tmzt: i think you have epson. and therefore a complex raph800 setup
21:59.47cr2tmzt: is the epson lcd detection implemented ?
21:59.55cr2townkat: you need this epson init too.
22:00.07cr2x300=0
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22:00.19cr2read 0x300
22:00.28cr230c=3000
22:00.49cr2read 0x324 & 0xffff
22:01.11townkatbut why was the old march android booting on blackstone ? was epson init implemented at that time ?.?.
22:01.14cr2this is panel idx
22:01.24cr2i thinkk maejrep did something like that
22:02.13tmztcan we move clients to drivers/video/msm/clients and give them proper names?
22:02.52cr2i think they are already there
22:03.02cr2just epson is a bit dumb client
22:03.18cr2but we have the code from epson, and all register names
22:03.49tmzttcx s1d etc
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22:04.48tmzteach driver can probe its own chip?
22:05.28cr2should be. but check it first
22:07.26tmztcheckit how?
22:09.27cr2the code
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22:10.51cr2tmzt: the real options are hitachi or toppoly
22:11.00cr2tmzt: do you know your panel id ?
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22:21.43mdrobnakHey everyone.
22:22.41cr2hi mdrobnak
22:22.52cr2mdrobnak: dumped eeprom already ?
22:23.07mdrobnakI must have missed that
22:23.13mdrobnakwhat do you need?
22:23.47cr2you need it for wifi
22:24.05cr2does your bt work ?
22:25.15tmztcr2: not xc? I don't think it got far enough to get that
22:25.17mdrobnakI have no idea if bt works. Don't really use it. Wifi, however, would be useful.
22:25.28mdrobnakAre instructions in the log for today?
22:26.12tmztthe compat-wireless-2.6 includes the wl12xx driver?
22:26.59tmztthe tar
22:29.55mdrobnakcr2: How do I dump my eeprom to get Wifi to work?
22:33.04cr2mdrobnak: in wince or in linux ?
22:33.19mdrobnakWhatever is easier..
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22:42.57mdrobnakBtw: 107MB bank 0, nothing in bank 1, #define MSM_PMEM_MDP_BASE       0x23D00000, MSM_LINUX_SIZE 0x6B00000, seem to be OK so far.
22:42.59mdrobnakI enabled the VM Debugging to see if it helps with finding the NULL pointer referencing
22:42.59tmztthrees something in mdp_ppp.cabout ebi port
22:42.59tmztah mdp foray
22:42.59tmztah mdp doesn't requir pmemit just has to lock userspace access to its memory
22:42.59mdrobnakmdp?
22:43.00tmztvideo
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22:43.00tmztcr2:
22:43.00tmztah mdp doesn't requir pmemit just has to lock userspace access to its memory
22:43.00tmztomem
22:43.00tmztpmem
22:43.00mdrobnaklol
22:43.01mdrobnakback in 10 mins
22:44.45cr2tmzt: but how much does it need of "its own memory" ?
22:45.16tmztnot quite sure
22:45.22tmztwhat do you mean?
22:46.08tmztjust that gives userspace access to the vram and when mdp ppp needs to blit or something it has to lock it
22:46.28tmztso thats what pmem-get-file pmem-put-file are for
22:46.35tmztand why they are ifdefd
22:47.14tmztif that ebi2 port register thing works like agp aperature that's probably required to move the vram
22:47.29cr2vram ?
22:47.41tmztvram meaning video ram
22:47.56cr2framebuufer
22:48.09tmztgpu1 gpu0
22:48.29cr2what are these ?
22:48.43cr2there is also mdp ram
22:48.54cr2fb,gpu0,gpu1 and mdp
22:51.53tmzthow big is mdp?
22:52.07cr28MB i think
22:52.24tmztthat might be the command buffer
22:52.32cr2#define MSM_PMEM_GPU0_SIZE      0x00700000
22:52.45tmzthaven't looked at the driver in enough detail yet
22:52.46cr2#define SMI64_MSM_FB_SIZE               0x00100000
22:53.01cr2#define MSM_PMEM_GPU1_SIZE      0x800000
22:53.06tmztwhat header is that?
22:53.09tmztSMI64
22:53.16cr2#define SMI64_MSM_PMEM_MDP_SIZE 0x00800000
22:53.20cr2sapphire
22:53.23tmztok
22:53.32tmzt2.6.29?
22:53.37cr2i used it because it has 3MB for the cam
22:53.41cr2which we are missing
22:53.44cr2#define SMI64_MSM_PMEM_CAMERA_BASE      0x03000000
22:53.59cr2err
22:54.01cr2#define SMI64_MSM_PMEM_CAMERA_SIZE      0x01000000
22:54.11tmztright
22:54.16cr216MB for cam ??
22:54.29tmztit has thumbnail and picture
22:54.51cr2#define SMI32_MSM_FB_SIZE               0x9b000
22:55.16cr2#define MSM_PMEM_CAMERA_SIZE    0x00800000
22:55.17tmztwhat size is that?
22:55.19cr2g1 had 8
22:55.22tmztFB
22:55.35cr2640x480x2
22:55.41tmztok
22:55.46cr2ot whatever these hvga have
22:55.49tmztor 320x4
22:55.56cr2x4 ?
22:55.57cr2x2
22:56.01tmzt480x320x4
22:56.09cr2lame
22:56.28tmztthing is mdp can blit from any of those
22:56.30cr2stupid doublebuffering
22:56.35tmztno swapping required
22:56.44tmztwith the right driver
22:56.58tmztthey wrote it but used 3d chip instead
22:57.05cr2mdp does mem2mem ?
22:57.20tmztyeah
22:57.21tmztin mdp-blit
22:57.29cr2ok
22:57.40cr2so for tvout i need one more fbram ?
22:58.03cr2to feed the tv encoder
22:58.18tmztI don't think google ever intended the flipping to be used outside of the emulator
22:58.34mdrobnakAren't we setting aside 8MB for vram?
22:58.51tmzton released devices
22:58.57cr2tmzt: so why does mdp need 8MB ?
22:59.14tmztnot sure
22:59.35tmzthow much does gpu have?
22:59.55cr28+8
23:00.00cr2and 8 for adsp
23:00.04tmztif that's used for 3d vram also
23:00.26tmztthen I don't know
23:00.36cr2i guess for xfbdev only fbram is needed
23:00.54tmztyes
23:00.59tmztshould be
23:01.13tmztand no pmem
23:01.13cr2but adsp sound may need something too
23:01.42cr2yeah, pmem is an excuse to not do dri
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23:06.13ppman(EE) FBDEV(0): FBIOPUT_VSCREENINFO: Invalid argument
23:06.30ppman(EE) FBDEV(0): mode initialization failed
23:07.04tmztyeah
23:07.17ppmanwhat's that mean?
23:07.18tmztthe other patch didn't work either
23:07.44tmztso you have to return 1 for mode is equal in modedb
23:08.07ppmanthis is a kernel issue?
23:08.28mdrobnakhttp://pastebin.com/m2022ff62 : Bank 0 107 MB, Bank 1 61 MB, same movement of things as other boot... This one crashed 3/4 way through initialization of Android. I enabled DEBUG_VM, but I don't know if there's more in there then usual..
23:09.22cr2they are evil
23:10.28ppmanso what needs to be done to get X running on the framebuffer?
23:12.45mdrobnakcr2: lol, who's evil?
23:19.54ppmanso what do I do to get a working framebuffer?
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23:43.29ppmanwhat depth is the framebuffer?
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23:49.39rafyvittohey dzo any luck finding the power hugger on the diamond?
23:51.49mdrobnakrafyvitto, Same on raph :-) Only lasts about 4 hours with email
23:52.03ppmanNOOOOO!!!! what's wrong with my sd card???
23:53.38rafyvittoidk yoou havent told us your problem/issue yet

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