IRC log for #htc-linux on 20090907

00:01.23tmztreset?
00:01.27tmzt16:17 < cr2> after msleep()
00:01.28tmzt16:17 < cr2> dex+msleep+0x55aa00ff+gpio0x19
00:01.32tmzt???
00:14.12tmzt14:08 < cr2> i think we can get rid of the
00:14.24tmzt<PROTECTED>
00:14.24tmzt14:09 < cr2> it can be derived from the PLL frequency source (S) and the MNP numbers.
00:14.28tmzt14:09 < cr2> the PLL frequencies are hardcoded in acpuclock.c
00:14.30tmztyes
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00:45.14leviathanhi folks
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00:45.42leviathanis there some experimental alsa driver for the htc platform in the linux to go repo?
00:45.54tmztI don't think so
00:46.01tmztuse playwav2.c for now
00:46.12leviathanhm, ok
00:46.23tmzthello anyway
00:46.28leviathanhi tmzt
00:46.32tmztthat was your code wasn't it?
00:46.59leviathanplaywav2 ? nope my code is the modified wl12xx for my fork =)
00:47.03tmztsomebody said android 2.6.29 has one but only for camera?
00:47.16tmztoh, ok
00:47.18leviathanjup
00:47.25leviathancamera works just fine
00:47.38tmztI thought there was a post from you about sound
00:47.46tmzton Untouchable's site
00:48.01leviathanat the moment i am building an optimized rootfs for the htcdream
00:48.10tmztcool
00:48.17leviathanwith gui ;)
00:48.28tmztdid you see openmoko-msm?
00:48.42tmztthat was yours
00:48.43leviathanthe kernel fork?
00:48.47leviathanyes
00:48.50leviathanthat was mine =)
00:49.04tmztI was confusing you with somebody then
00:49.05tmztok
00:49.23tmztdid you get the mac80211 cleaned up?
00:49.39tmztyou mean X?
00:50.00leviathanno, the fork :) with X and wifi
00:50.20tmztwhat?
00:50.57tmztI mean when you merged to update ieee80211 you brought some changes to core kernel/core arm that made no sense
00:50.57marcin889anybody know, why git not working?
00:51.07tmztdns problem
00:51.11tmzt~ltg
00:51.23aptltg is probably 85.214.40.226
00:51.23tmztapt: ltg?
00:51.24aptwell, ltg is 85.214.40.226
00:51.31leviathanohh, ah, yes I see what you meen
00:51.33tmztuse that
00:51.39tmztadd it to hosts
00:51.58tmztleviathan: yeah
00:52.06leviathantmzt: at the moment I can only scan for accesspoints
00:52.13marcin889tmtz: "403 Forbidden - No such project
00:52.13marcin889"
00:52.18leviathanbut somehow the association times out
00:52.33leviathanIm working on it
00:52.38leviathanalso on the sound
00:52.55tmztsound is working somewhat
00:53.16leviathanbut not as driver
00:53.33leviathanId like to have mplayer in the bus :)
00:53.36tmztmarcin889: I don't think gitweb will work
00:53.45marcin889ok
00:53.54tmztwell, have fun with that
00:54.04tmztmight be easier to add it to libao
00:54.09tmzt(in mplayer)
00:54.17leviathanhmm, right
00:54.20leviathangood idea
00:54.22leviathan:)
00:54.52tmztwhen we get things working we can start on alsa driver
00:54.57tmzthow is X going?
00:55.03leviathanbut then is another problem, in this case phone calls would still make no sense
00:55.12tmztoh, someone else is working on 2.6.29
00:55.17tmztmaybe druidu
00:55.25leviathanhmm
00:55.30leviathanX is working
00:55.41tmztif mac80211 is new enough you might try wl12xx on there
00:55.49tmztXorg?
00:55.57tmztwith update thread?
00:56.00leviathannope, Xfbdev
00:56.06leviathanyes
00:56.17leviathanwith the update patch from linux-to-go
00:56.24tmztright, we need to get away from that
00:56.38tmztX people aren't supporting it, suggest using Xorg
00:56.51leviathanI also have wl12xx_sdio running, but association times out
00:57.00tmztand the update thread will never work right, dma will always be late
00:57.19tmztom-msm is .29?
00:57.31leviathanyeah
00:57.43leviathanhttp://gitorious.org/openmoko-msm/openmoko-msm/trees/master
00:57.51tmztand what wireless tree?
00:58.03leviathan2.6.32
00:58.10leviathanbut I hacked around
00:58.11tmztdruidi: still here?
00:58.22leviathana little bit and now it works (nearly)
00:58.27tmztdruidu: still here?
00:58.56tmztyes, but were you able to just import net/wireless and drivers/net/wireless?
00:59.04tmztand fix the core stuff?
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00:59.12leviathanyes
00:59.19tmztalso, did wireless-compat not work?
00:59.26leviathandidnt work
00:59.31tmztthere should be a 2.6.29 tree
00:59.33tmztoh
00:59.34tmztok
00:59.40leviathananyway
00:59.48leviathanit nearly totaly works now
00:59.59leviathanI cant only not connect to an accesspoint
01:00.04leviathanbut I can see them all
01:00.10leviathanwhen I make iwlist wlan0 sc
01:00.29leviathanassociation times out all the time
01:00.46leviathanperhaps I have to set the max tries variable higher
01:00.48leviathanor soo...
01:01.43leviathanor there is a maximal delay which from defferes from the nokia version and I have to increase it
01:01.54leviathan<PROTECTED>
01:02.24leviathansorry, here it is 3 a.m.
01:02.28leviathan^^"
01:03.58leviathando you have any idea, where I could upload the rootfs for htcdream-om?
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01:06.02leviathananyway
01:06.25leviathanI'll smoke a cigarete and got to bed, gn8
01:17.31tmztleviathan: google code seems to work, not sure of the limit
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06:34.55Untouchab1eSo, Power management is working on the raph now they tell me?
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06:37.27tmztyeah
06:37.43Untouchab1edetails?
06:37.54Untouchab1eScreen on\off and all?
06:39.21tmztnot sure
06:39.27tmztif unit works
06:39.33tmztinit
06:41.32Untouchab1eI see..
06:41.44Untouchab1ejust got back from a manouver and it seems alot has happened
06:42.03Untouchab1ealthough now Im really keen on seeing all the progress for the Raph get ported over to the Blackstone too
06:45.10tmztit should be able to
06:50.46Untouchab1eI know
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07:19.40druidutmzt: am now
07:20.17tmztah what was it about?
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07:28.41tmztoh, someone else is working on 2.6.29
07:28.49tmztthat's it
07:28.58tmztis that you?
07:36.36druiduI managed to boot it on my android, get the console working & stuff
07:36.49druidumaybe the lcd code there works better
07:45.15tmztwhere?
07:45.29tmztte lcd code is device specific
07:52.40druiduI know, but they seem to have the panel init sequences sorted out better
07:53.01druidualso, I'm considering switching to codeaurora 2.6.29b branch
07:53.20druiduframework for adding more hardware support is much more flexible
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07:56.52cr2hi
07:57.10cr2tmzt: do you have 6150 amss locally?
07:59.52druiducr2: where can I take a look at proc_comm code?
07:59.56druidueither client or server
08:00.11tmzta radio nb?
08:00.12druiduspl? nk.exe?
08:00.18druiduyeah, but which file :)
08:02.26cr2druidu: not the spl. wince nk.exe
08:02.38cr2or the oem_misc.dll
08:02.50druiduany pointers on how to find the relevant functions?
08:03.13cr2tmzt: yes. your adsp has 5 "images", and not 3 like on gsm adsp_*
08:03.48tmzthow do you extract them
08:03.55tmztprobabky for qcelp
08:05.00cr2druidu: search for the 0x*100, 0x*104, 0x*108 constants
08:05.19druidudumped the ram from haret, then used romdump
08:05.24cr2druidu: i think they start with 0xaa*
08:05.34druiduconstants for addresses right?
08:05.59cr2tmzt: dump the nand. at least the first part
08:06.15cr2tmzt: i can only guess about the "images" order
08:06.34tmztI have radio.nb
08:06.48tmztbut I have no idea how to split it
08:07.06cr2for gsm it's qtv,gaudio,combo (hhm, i think combo,gaudio,qtv)
08:07.28cr2split with dd
08:07.47cr2first look at it with mc
08:08.02cr2or just simply run 'strings' on  it
08:08.10tmztmc?
08:08.19cr2and look for combo/gaudio/qtv
08:08.31cr2midnight commander  ;)
08:08.50druiduyou can split radio.nb with http://revskills.de/
08:08.56cr2maybe you have some extra audio codecs. i don't know
08:09.02druidueven if you can only run it 10 minutes at a time, it's enough for the split
08:09.09cr2druidu: not .nb, but the raw dump
08:09.14druiduah, I see
08:09.31cr2and the .nb split can be done without it too.
08:09.43druiduof course it can, if you know the file format :)
08:10.10cr2it's known
08:12.18druiduwhat's at 0xa80d0000 ? memory map says it's dex related, and found it in a dex-related thing
08:12.29cr2ok. need to go now.
08:12.49cr2druidu: it's some working memory for dex.
08:13.30cr2queues or something like that. the proc_comm manages to work synchronously, without queue.
08:13.39tmztok, it's in xxd, what do I do with strings?
08:13.46cr2proc_comm_* linux implementation
08:14.06cr2tmzt: grep for qtv/gaudio/combo
08:14.15tmztthere,s a partition table
08:14.30tmztno QTV
08:14.35tmztqtv?
08:14.58tmztnone
08:15.11tmztcombo or gaudio
08:16.00cr2ok. ill think about it later
08:16.27cr2druidu: the 'linux on diam' is very popular on xda-dev :)
08:16.41cr2bye
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08:29.48druiducr2: no shit, we have 3,707 replies and 1,100,553 views :)
08:36.19tmztmsm7600
08:36.26tmztinteesting
08:40.08tmztrama, ramb, ramc, rami
08:55.12tmztwell, Xn seems to be used to identify boards, not just a memory location
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09:14.46leviathanwhere can I upload my htcdream rootfs-files?
09:25.42tmztcan we read radio console?
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09:36.47druiduradio console, what's that?
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09:39.42tmztsomething must go wrong id the audmgr client is not registered
09:39.56druidu*finally* my net is back
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09:40.31druiduas I understand it, the problem with the audio manager is that wince already registered one and you have to use same cid
09:42.16tmztyes
09:42.24tmztbut there might be more
09:42.34druiduthe best thing to do is to reset arm9
09:42.49tmztlooks like radio can tell us how much ram we have
09:42.51tmztright
09:43.01tmztbut console would be helpful
09:43.31tmztfor things like mdh speed being invalid
09:44.22druiduwhat exactly is this console?
09:44.25druidulike dmesg for arm9?
09:44.44tmztyeah
09:44.47druiduthere's something interesting in codeaurora 2.6.29 branch, a smd_log driver
09:45.02tmztit's running a very posix microkernel
09:45.09druiduSMEM_STATIC_LOG_EVENTS
09:45.11druiduit looks at this
09:45.35tmztinteresting
09:45.50tmztbut we've never found a log in smem
09:47.13tmztsec must be the limited access apps is allowed to clkrgm
09:47.39tmztwe might not have mmio access to the registers at all
09:50.05tmztany idea what tramp is? it's in the android kernel
09:51.01Captnoordt ramp?
09:51.06Captnoordtime
09:51.10Captnoordtemperture
09:51.16Captnoordtemperature*
09:51.22tmzton sbii?
09:51.28Captnoordi'm just spamming..
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09:52.42Captnoordmini-trampolines.c
09:52.48Captnoordtrampoline?
09:52.49Captnoordlol
09:54.22Captnoordor lady and the tramp
09:54.23Captnoord:P
09:56.07Captnoordwasn't tramp a method to remove edit a file with emacs?
09:56.13Captnoordremote*
10:01.44paranstill is
10:14.51Daemon_http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/09/05/htc-touch-hd2-to-be-an-android-set/
10:14.52Daemon_hm
10:15.33tmztrmnet might be in our radios
10:15.42tmztbut they are set for ppp
10:16.44druidutrampoline is the technique they use in haret to disable mmu and jump start the kernel
10:18.10tmztI know
10:18.21tmztnot haret
10:18.31tmztin the kernel
10:26.36druiduref tramp -- http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/kprobes.txt
10:26.59druiduThe trampoline is an arbitrary piece of code -- typically just a nop instruction. At boot time, Kprobes registers a kprobe at the trampoline.
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10:36.44tmztdruidu: this is something msm specific
10:36.51tmztor htc specific
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11:04.47tmztradio sands a hello to apps router
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11:09.47druidunope, the link I have you earlier is about kprobes, it's standard kernel stuff
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12:01.57croketasanyone knows how to boot linux from a image filesystem?
12:02.05croketaslike the old .cab files do
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12:02.14croketasfor the universal
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12:05.08druiducroketas: using haret?
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12:14.23croketasdruidu, haret or something else
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12:20.15god4sakenhi again (i am croketas..)
12:22.52god4sakendruidu, the problem is that i dont know where to find haret information for booting from a filesystem image
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12:23.55Captnoordlol
12:24.01Captnoordyou mean that you want to have dualboot?
12:24.08god4sakendualboot?
12:24.09god4sakenno
12:24.37Captnoordyou mean booting from a virtual file image?
12:24.37god4sakeni just want to boot from windows using haret
12:24.45Captnoordthen....
12:24.48Captnoordwhat device?
12:25.03god4sakenuniversal
12:25.27god4sakenand i have a linux filesystem imagen in a file, just like the old self installable .cab files do
12:25.50Captnoordhttp://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/index.html
12:25.56Captnoordk
12:26.22Captnoordhttp://www.sumou.com/index.php?cmd=%E7%9B%B8%E6%92%B2%E5%A4%96%EF%BC%9ARunning%20Debian%20GNU/Linux%20on%20HTC%20Universal
12:28.43god4sakenin that page, it explains how to boot linux from the SD card, the problem is that i dont have the system in a partition, but in a file
12:30.07Captnoordthen I don
12:30.09Captnoord't know
12:30.12CaptnoordI suggest you google
12:30.47god4saken:(
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12:30.49tmztpeople.openezx.org/tmzt/initfs.img
12:30.58tmztas initrd
12:31.24god4sakentmzt, you mean using haret?
12:31.28god4sakenany special opt?
12:32.06tmztroot=/dev/loop
12:32.30god4sakenreal_root=?
12:32.38druiduyou have to use a initrd
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12:33.16druiduin default.txt (for haret), put something like: set initrd initrd.gz
12:33.29god4sakenok
12:33.47druiduand prepare an appropriate initrd that will first mount the sdcard, then mount the image using the loopback device
12:34.09druiduyou can use something like this for the cmd line in default.txt: set cmdline "root=/dev/ram0 init=/init"
12:34.26druiduand you would have an executable script in the root of the initrd image, called "init"
12:34.51god4sakenamm ok ok
12:34.54god4sakenthaks a lot
12:35.00tmztlooproot=yourimg
12:35.06tmztno
12:35.18god4sakenno?
12:35.22tmztdruidu: not wittg that initrd
12:35.33tmztroot=/dev/loop
12:35.40tmztis special
12:36.03tmztalso rootdelay=5
12:36.13god4sakentmzt, for wich kernel is that initrd?
12:36.20god4sakenor it doesn't matter
12:36.40tmzt2.6.21
12:36.49tmztmostly
12:37.08tmztbut it should work with any
12:37.20god4sakenok
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12:39.37god4sakenthe kernel modifications for the universal, does them work with recent kernels??
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13:06.05Captnoordgod4saken: I guess not... mainly because they need to be ported to them....
13:21.05elliswaythere are some patches for the universal i think for 2.6.26 but you should be able to find more info on the patches in the linux on universal thread on the xda-devs forum
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13:51.16iseekalo
13:52.22iseekai get a connection timed out while initializing git repository from git://git.linuxtogo.org/home/groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git
13:53.34iseekais it just server error?
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14:06.58mickey|zzZZzzserver migration please have patience
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14:15.46mickeyluhm
14:16.13mickeyljudging at the commits, you folks really want to make one shared config between android/linux and gnu/linux?
14:16.25mickeyli do not think this is a good idea
14:16.33mickeylat least, it should've been discussed somewhere beforehand
14:16.46mickeylbut as you don't want to use mailing lists, this point is somewhat moot
14:16.48mickeyl*sigh*
14:18.28mickeyl"htcraphael_android_defconfig was outdated and caused confusion,
14:18.28mickeylso I removed it."
14:18.33mickeylwhere did it cause confusion?
14:18.51mickeylonly for those who don't want to accept that android/linux is a seperate system
14:48.05tmztmickeyl: well, a couple of things. I would like to see a hierarchial Kconfig though I have no idea how to do it (cascading like css I mean or similar), as well as per-device kernel keymaps
14:48.45tmztbut in 2.6.31+ android stuff will be in the new staging directory until the interfaces are more kernel-like
14:49.36tmztthey also won't break non android things and may actually be useful with non-android systems
14:50.29tmztthe concerns that remain for me are msmfb, which I would like to see replaced with drm like Weiss is doing for freerunner, or alternatively, able to compatibly choose whether to use double buffering the android/Pre way
14:50.35tmztwhich currently breaks X
14:50.47tmztwe also need to fix X anyway to get rid of the in kernel update thread
14:51.33tmztif we can get android stuff down to CONFIG_ANDROID_COMPATIBLE or something similar for now (until the CONFIG is stablized upstream)
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15:07.41druidumsm_fb uses a lot of hardware routines
15:07.50druiduit would be a shame to trash all that
15:08.11tmztwell, the drm driver would use the same things
15:08.33tmztbut with a standard ioctl/ddx approach that is becoming supported on the desktop
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16:25.11xperiahello !
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16:43.40tmztcr    Note to maintainers of other raphael-based boards: please updated your confi using this as a base. In particular, make sure SAPPHIRE, TROUT, HALIBUT boar are disabled (they need proc_comm.c, which is compiled only if AMSS version is not WinCE AMSS -- we use proc_comm_wince.c).
16:43.56tmztcan we make those depend on !WINCE then? at least for now
16:44.18tmztwe should end up with a real patchset against android kernel anyway
16:49.09xperiatmzt: i have in kconfig all builds by default disabled and that works for me. dont know why sapphire and raphael are by defaul enabled
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16:55.30xperiatmzt: need you help. does the raph kernel config has semaphores enabled ?
16:56.04tmztwhich?
16:57.22xperiadont know hich. does different semaphores exist ? i am getting this error message here.
16:57.24xperiaCannot create semaphore /tmp/....
16:57.26xperiaError 38 Function not implemented
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16:58.48tmztdo you have tmpfs mounted?
16:58.55xperiastudying some kernel docs about the kernel. do we have this here ?
16:58.57xperiaSemaphores <include/asm/semaphore.h> <SLEEPS>
16:59.00tmztI think you mean SYSVIPC
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17:00.08xperiadont know if tmpfs mounted is mounted. use a simple angstrom rootfs. how to veryfie if tmpfs is mounted ?
17:01.48god4sakentmzt, the initrd you send me gives an error: losetup not found, losetup must be in the initrd or in the filesystem image?
17:02.18tmztit might not be
17:02.21tmztI don't really use that feature
17:02.41tmztit should be enough to add a smlink from bin/busybox to sbin/losetup
17:02.48tmztand repack it
17:02.51god4sakenok
17:03.33god4sakenmmm it also failed mounting /dev/loop0
17:03.35god4sakenbio too big device loop0 (2 > 0)
17:03.59god4sakeni've never got that error before
17:04.00xperiatmzt: i can write and create folders inside /tmp so this is for sure not a permission problem
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17:04.38nozzewhere do I get the latest build for raphael (I'm really excited to se how it works)
17:04.42tmztis SYSVIPC enabled?
17:04.57xperiatmzt: one second
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17:07.13xperiatmzt: # CONFIG_SYSVIPC is not set
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17:07.25xperiashould i enabled it ?
17:07.45mdrobnakHey everyone. Great progress on the DIAM / RAPH port..
17:08.08tmztyes
17:08.09tmztandroid needs that
17:08.18tmztas well as other userlands
17:08.57xperiatmzt: great i will try that and report back if helped. thanks a lot once again for the hints
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17:09.54cr2tmzt: where does this message come from ? about amss
17:10.09mdrobnakI updated the xda-dev wiki yesterday with some of the progress on the latest builds... One thing I notice is that my data connection goes in and out..what's the easiest way to get logs with the dzo userland?
17:10.40tmztcr2: which?
17:10.53cr2mdrobnak: the easiest way is to do a proper AT init after ATZ
17:11.18cr2i didn't have any problems with umts data link on raph
17:12.10mdrobnakcr2: Well, what happens on mine is it will fluctuate beteween signal indicator with 3G or E, signal indicator alone, and signal indicator with an X..
17:12.28mdrobnakBut sometimes it is stable, others not.
17:13.04mdrobnakAnd what I meants about logs, was should I do adb, or is telnet enabled (didn't look like it)?
17:13.58mdrobnakI'm using MacOS here, so Android dev has never been simple...I have a VM for kernel building, but not sure what's the easiest way to get adb going.
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17:22.30tmztmdrobnak: follow android build sinstructions
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17:34.57mdrobnaktmzt: Thanks. On the developer.android.com site, right?
17:35.13tmztyeah
17:35.28tmztkernel won't build without a case sensitive fs though
17:35.32tmztbut the rest will
17:35.48tmzt#android should be able to help you, jbq, etc.
17:41.24miknixhttp://failblog.org/2009/08/25/samsung-ad-fail/
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17:44.14tmztthe tts one?
17:45.31rafyvittohello guys
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17:47.02xperiatmzt: you are great man ! thanks a lot for the help. it works great now.
17:48.21rafyvittohey guys any though of why on the latest zimage from dzo, the media player and gallery apps arnt reading my sd card, but when i use astro i can access it just fine ><
17:48.37rafyvittomy device raph110 =D
17:49.05tmztnot really, I haven't done anything with that
17:49.15tmztbut it could be because the mmc is mounted, though I'm not sure
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17:51.50rafyvittothe zimage before this new one , detected the sd card just fine
17:52.00rafyvittostrange right
17:52.40tmztdo you have commits?
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17:58.04Untouchab1ehi all
18:00.13tmztUntouchab1e: what are you current images based on?
18:01.02Untouchab1emy current images are really old
18:01.13tmztif you can bring them a little closer to dzo's that would make support much easier here
18:01.16Untouchab1ejust got back from a military manouver so havent caught up with the latest developments yet
18:01.26Untouchab1eim checking it out now
18:01.27tmztactually, I think dzo needs to consider a user irc channel for his stuff
18:01.54tmztmaybe #android-htc or #android-wince
18:02.23Untouchab1eyeh
18:03.18tmztbut people are doing the "try everything until it works"
18:03.30tmztso they switch from dzo's to yours and then wonder why the instructions don't match
18:03.36Untouchab1ehehe, yeah
18:03.46tmzteither approach needs troubleshooting but it's not being done by the users
18:03.54tmztso we have to aide a bit in that :)
18:04.12Untouchab1eI see.. I have to read through the last couple of 10 pages ro so
18:04.14Untouchab1eon XDA
18:04.18Untouchab1eor so*
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18:05.30tmztwell
18:05.46tmztdzo got a diamond, one with limited hardware for some reason
18:06.04tmztand pushed some changes to ltg that enabled some audio functions
18:06.21tmztwe've been working on getting those on raph as well
18:06.56Untouchab1ehmm, so Audio isnt working on the Raph?
18:07.01tmztI think it is
18:07.11Untouchab1eim testing it now
18:07.18tmztthe problem was some of his changes were made in raph files and not compatible
18:07.23tmztso those have been split
18:07.25tmztfor diam
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18:08.36Untouchab1eaha
18:10.01AstainHellbringnice commits for cdma raph too
18:11.06Untouchab1eI must admit, I am getting really eager on getting this working on the blackstone
18:11.10Untouchab1eeven though I dont have one :)
18:13.01Untouchab1ethe HTC Hero is broken
18:13.08Untouchab1ein that it is jus so fucking slow
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18:14.29tmztit's not Hero, Hero doesn't have enough ram for the software they run on it
18:14.52Untouchab1eI dont think its the RAM
18:15.03Untouchab1eand its not the Qualcomm CPU everyone is complaining about..
18:15.08AstainHellbringi hear if you add swap to a class 5 sd it helps a TON
18:15.17Untouchab1eyeah.. Ive heard it too
18:15.17tmztwhat is it?
18:15.23Untouchab1eIts the Sense software that is just poorly optimized
18:15.37AstainHellbringgood ole htc they suck ass at optimized code
18:15.39Untouchab1eHTC Is coming with an update very soon which supposedly fixes all the problem
18:15.39tmztyeah, I think because all the news stories say 525Mhz Qualcomm cpu
18:15.48tmztwhich doesn't exist, it's an arm cpu (core)
18:18.21Untouchab1eBut when all comes to all, I just cant use phones without qwerty keyboards anymore
18:18.51tmztI don't know, the auto complete 2char keyboard is fast
18:18.57tmztand somewhat accurate
18:19.21Untouchab1eyou talking about the hero now?
18:19.32tmztno
18:19.44tmztwm6.1 htc keyboards
18:19.47AstainHellbringtmzt you gonna get hero when its released to cdma?
18:19.56tmztnot planning on it
18:19.57Untouchab1eDont!
18:20.05tmztI think Pre/n900 not sure which yet
18:20.07tmztor when
18:20.07Untouchab1eOr... I guess I shoulndt be so harsh
18:20.13AstainHellbringpre huh
18:20.36tmztbut yeah, I agreed with you strongly, until my keyboard has been breaking and I've mean using sip
18:20.37Untouchab1eSense is awesome when t runs well, but again.. I dont like the lack of qwerty and to be honest, the phone is currently quite buggy
18:20.50tmztand it's fast for typing long statements with standard words
18:21.10tmztif I could write a wordlist (and delete mistakes) it would be even better
18:21.16tmztbut I still want hw keybaord
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18:28.10Untouchab1eSo, teh Android Diamond 090609 (TaC_Pack) still needs to be put in a "tmp" folder right?
18:28.23Untouchab1eget lots of "Warning bus was busy" messages when I try to boot
18:28.25tmztlook at default.txt
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18:29.10Untouchab1eyeah, ok.. but should the files go into "tmp" or "Android Diamond 090609 (TaC_Pack)"?
18:29.33tmztI would think not
18:29.36tmzteither root or tmp
18:29.39Untouchab1eok
18:29.46tmztbut look at default.txt, see what imgdir= says
18:29.48Untouchab1eil modify the startup.txt
18:29.56Untouchab1eyeah, I see it says /tmp
18:30.26rafyvittoomg guys
18:30.30rafyvittonue did it
18:30.39Untouchab1e?
18:30.41rafyvittotouch pro running at 800mhz
18:30.44rafyvittoOMG
18:30.49rafyvittohttp://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/post/2009/09/06/Touch-Pro-running-at-800MHZ.aspx
18:31.07phhhow useful is that ?
18:31.54tmztfor?
18:31.59mdrobnakBack...and that's kinda crazy.
18:32.05mdrobnakWonder how stable it would be at 768 MHz
18:33.28mdrobnakI think the rild might be dying, and causing the connection to go away on my RAPH110...I'm going to remove the MEM=76M statement and see if that goes away.
18:33.28AstainHellbringnue said it was pretty stable
18:33.32AstainHellbringbut that 1ghz wasnt
18:33.41Untouchab1edamn it.. i cant get the TaC Pack booting
18:33.45mdrobnakrafyvitto: How stable is data on your RAPH?
18:34.35rafyvittohe hasnt release it yet mdrobnak
18:34.37tmztmdrobnak: we need to fix the bank settings if they are not correct for raph
18:35.10Untouchab1eI get loads of errors.. I must be doing something wrong
18:36.04phhUntouchab1e: what are the errors like ?
18:36.33mdrobnaktmzt: I tried logcat, but only could get the last few lines (did it on the terminal) and couldn't get a > character hehe. Installing the SDK on my desktop now..
18:36.44mdrobnaktmzt: If I remove the MEM= it should either work, or freeze, right?
18:37.43Untouchab1ewell, it says it cant find rootfs.img on your SD Card
18:37.49tmztyeah
18:37.58tmztbut you can try increasing it a little
18:38.09phhUntouchab1e: the filese are in /tmp
18:38.10phh?
18:38.13Untouchab1eyeah
18:39.07phhany other errors other that this one ?
18:39.42Untouchab1elots of "Warning bus was busy" messages
18:39.45Untouchab1ethat just never stop
18:39.57Untouchab1emsm_i2c msm_i2c.0: Warning bus was busy
18:40.21Untouchab1e"there are differences between boot sector and its backup. Differences: (offset:original/backup)
18:40.42phherf
18:40.56Untouchab1ethat last error comes above the others
18:40.58Untouchab1eany ideas?
18:41.11tmztyeah, I've seen that from others
18:41.21tmztI think it's realted to vfat though
18:41.23mdrobnakIf you go back to like page 346 or so on xda, there was a .rar file posted..
18:41.26tmztnot sure
18:41.31mdrobnakI'm using that + a kernel from git
18:41.37mdrobnakand that works pretty well
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18:42.14Untouchab1eok, il check it out
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18:42.57rafyvittohey guys
18:43.02rafyvittoanyone here with a raph110?
18:43.15Untouchab1ewhat do you need?
18:44.02mdrobnakrafyvitto: Yes, 110 here.
18:44.12rafyvittothe media player and gallery apps arnt detecting my sd card xD, though i can access it with astro just fine, and play my media using that method, but sucks cause i cant set ringtones
18:44.36rafyvittoim using the latest dzo zimage, hes prevous one dint give me this behaviour
18:44.37rafyvitto><
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18:45.20mdrobnakrafyvitto: Well, I am just staring at a black screen now, lol. I was wondering, how stable is your data connection?
18:45.58mdrobnaktmzt: Going to try once more, but I think you're right in the memory layout isn't right on RAPH with the GIT kernel.
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18:54.49mdrobnakYep, once it goes to do the Android logo, it's done.
18:55.09mdrobnakInterestingly, I didn't notice before, that there are modules which are no longer getting loaded, because of my new kernel.
18:55.15tmztif it gets there that's probably not the problem
18:55.17mdrobnakNo ramzswap or something
18:55.21tmzttry disabling PMEM_GPU
18:55.25tmztI think they are incompatible
18:55.31tmztoh
18:55.37tmztwell that could be it too
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18:55.46mdrobnakYeah, I have to look at the initrd
18:56.00tmztcr2_: hey
18:56.09mdrobnakIt boots if I don't remove the ram= though.
18:56.15tmztright
18:56.41mdrobnakI'm going to put it back, then try to get adb working (got the sdk installed)
18:58.00mdrobnakAs an aside, Android eats battery, lol.
18:58.30rafyvittoyeh the power management is not fully done just yet
18:58.31rafyvittoxD
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18:58.51tmztok, I will be back
18:59.10mdrobnakttyl
19:00.18cr2_i'll parse rpc fifo by hand now :)
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19:06.56rafyvittoguys will there be any possibily to use the new clock speed found by nue2chem in the linux kernel?
19:07.53cr2tmzt: you will have to do some combinatorial work on cdma adsp. 2^5=32 combinations
19:09.25cr2rafyvitto: if you want to burn your phone, yes
19:09.40mdrobnaklol
19:09.57mdrobnakcr2: Is there anything special in the kernel needed to get ADB working?
19:10.02cr2rafyvitto: its 1 line patch for acpuclock.c
19:10.10mdrobnakI just did a make htcraphael_defconfig
19:10.48cr2mdrobnak: uncomment it in the usb service list ?
19:11.57mdrobnakcr2: This is on the dzo image.
19:12.08mdrobnakWhere would I look for that list?
19:12.19mdrobnakTrying to figure out why the data is flaky on the RAPH110.,
19:12.32cr2board-htcraphael.c
19:13.23mdrobnakOh. ok. One sec.
19:13.23cr2static char *halibut_usb_functions[] = {
19:13.23mdrobnakAt least shutdown works now. :-)
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19:13.23cr2//      "diag",
19:13.23cr2//      "adb",
19:13.24cr2};
19:13.32mdrobnakInteresting. What's the difference between diag and adb?
19:14.08cr2halibut was a devboard
19:15.09mdrobnakRight. Then came trout.
19:15.15mdrobnakI see what you mean though
19:16.51mdrobnakWill ADB find it, or should I modify any of the IDs?
19:17.11cr2diff with diamond
19:19.11rafyvittoso it wont work on the linux kernel xD
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19:21.13cr2rafyvitto: it's a simple patch
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19:24.42mdrobnakcr2: There are definitely some things out of sync between DIAM and RAPH code.
19:28.50cr2mdrobnak: maybe
19:29.05cr2tsdogs: trying to understand why gps does not work
19:29.52mdrobnakcr2: Well, there's an "adb=1" line in the diamond board file, and a "if (adb) use this pdata for usb instead of that" which I manually just changed the ID for the moment.
19:30.34cr2ok
19:32.23mdrobnaktmzt: For when you get back - I don't think those modules were ever working - they say 2.6.25, vs we've been on .27 for a while now..
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19:39.54mdrobnak:: sigh :: tried to email output from terminal, but it locked up.
19:40.06mdrobnakI take that back.
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19:47.38tsdogscr2: imho gps isn't so important, it takes ages to get a fix :)
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19:55.40mdrobnakcr2: Ok, so adb is still dead, but...but...I got at least 1 logcat emailed to me..trying to get another.
19:55.41mdrobnakGot them both.
19:55.41mdrobnakGreat.
19:55.42Vegitaleft all
19:55.42Vegitawtf?
19:55.42mdrobnakGreat.
19:55.42mdrobnakI'm still here, and I'm in the US :-)
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19:55.42Vegitaproxy blood?
19:55.42Vegita.)
19:55.42Vegitaim in Hungary (EU)
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20:07.27mdrobnakGot it. I got a RIL crash.
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20:10.30mdrobnakhttp://pastebin.com/m4fdd2efe  Looks like the RIL is crashing on my phone.
20:10.30mdrobnakerr RIL library.
20:10.30mdrobnakwonders if cell based location data is making it crash.
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20:10.32Echo31hi cr2
20:10.33cr2Echo31: got V05 working ?
20:10.33cr2tsdogs: yeah, it's not sirf3 for you.
20:10.49paranheh... I just found a "slight" issue with Gnutoo's free android audio driver
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