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00:11.50cr2_the  INT_UART2DM_RX is not used ?
00:14.53cr2_druidu: which dma channel are you using ?
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00:32.16parmasterwww.pyside.org <--- neat something new
00:32.44parmastermaemo got ported to the raphael by some folks in hamburg supposedly
00:36.20ali1234oh rly?
00:36.29parmasteryah leemme find the article
00:36.41parmasterhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=28018
00:36.44ali1234i had a go at running it on wizard a couple of days ago but it seems to need a newer ARM core
00:36.53parmasteroic
00:37.30ali1234but wizard is only ARM9 i think
00:37.37ali1234quite old
00:38.04parmasteryeah i think its BS too
00:38.21druiducr2_: I switched the two channels as you told me
00:38.25druidunow I'm back to standard
00:38.39druidubut I doubt it's because of the dma... no dma was started
00:38.46ali1234well, not really, it's quite possible. a lot of maemo is open source
00:38.56cr2_druidu: but the dma9 works for SD ?
00:38.57ali1234i was just playing around with a nokia rootfs
00:40.50druiduwell, I can boot android, I suppose it works :)
00:41.03druiduand I can boot after switching them, so again works
00:42.00cr2_ok
00:42.29cr2_good night
00:43.23tmztdruidu: have you tried aNthing other than android?
00:50.27druidulike what?
00:54.02druidu02:36:01 [D:BT] [BTT]Opening port=COM7: baudrate=115200
00:54.02druidu02:36:01 [D:BT] [BTU]+COM_Open():AccessCode=0xc0000000
00:54.02druidu02:36:01 [K] OEMInterruptEnable: SYSINTR_FIRMWARE+13
00:54.17druiduwhat exactly is SYSINTR_FIRMWARE and how are the IRQs numbered in dmesg?
01:01.08miknixali1234, indeed. ARM926
01:02.17miknixdo you think it is possible to emulate a SD card through a SDIO port?
01:03.16miknixmy wifi AP has a SDIO port. if I could emulate a SD card and connect it to my tablet divx player for playing remote files would be awsome
01:08.30druidu#define MSM_UART2DM_PHYS      0xA0300000
01:08.33druiduare we sure about this?
01:10.17parmasterali1234 i have the BlueAngel, would love to try something different on it.. I've been running Fabrice's binary distro of Qtopia on it forever.. (which is good , but anything newer would be better)
01:10.52parmasteractually, i have 6 blueangels to be honest (lol)
01:11.48miknixparmaster, which distro are you using (on the computer)?
01:12.26parmasternone, vaguely anything.  whatsit matter etc.
01:12.52miknixI added GPE to the Gentoo portage tree
01:13.01parmasterknoppix livebootcd with proper "cheatcodes" passed for my sd reader (for example) anything
01:13.16miknixif you are comfortable with crosscompiling with emerge..
01:13.41parmasteryeah but what about a working phone?
01:14.06parmasterwith gentoo on it and gpe.. how am i supporting phone calls?
01:14.21miknixGPE doesn't have a phone stack afaik
01:14.27parmasteralso qtopia is way faster
01:14.44parmasterwell it used to but it was kind of stuck to the ipaq
01:15.13parmasterthey apparently rewrote gomunicator so it is no longer even functional (yaay?)
01:15.54parmasterearlier versions of gomunicator worked fine tho
01:16.39parmasterhow does gentoo run on the BA btw?
01:16.54parmasteris it useable?
01:17.20parmasteras useable as debian lenny i spose..
01:17.55parmasterhave any BA users of your armel distro
01:18.44miknixparmaster, gentoo are only a set of utils for building your own system
01:19.33miknixs/are/is/
01:24.56parmasterah right
01:25.26parmasteri haven't even tried debian lenny
01:26.06parmasteri try to keep a smaller sized distro
01:27.18miknixplus the package manager, of course.
01:28.50parmasterqtopia/openmoko is just right it fits within 200mb and everythign is quick and works (all hardware is supported)
01:31.44parmasteralthough i do have some probs
01:32.32parmasterlike when i have the wifi up on them all and they are all communicating at 22mb/s even if i keep sneding ping packets to each of them from one the wifi eventually dies
01:48.48parmasterhow is the raphael coming along? is sound up yet?
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11:45.15Daemon_Hey. doe
11:45.37Daemon_does anyone have MSM7201A datasheet?
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12:59.12FireDevilany1 here having htc gene?
13:01.03druidu1Daemon_: it's not really public :)
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14:06.20druidu1FYI: updated htc-msm-2.6.27 branch with latest code from upstream (android git) http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=commit;h=8b67377dc4d81aa0bb75a55dbd231c87fd9fc22c
14:07.08FireDevilany one has the workaround for htc gene restart problem?
14:07.28druidu1dunno
14:08.31druidu1gotta go, later
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15:00.59marajin_Nifty, finally took a glance back at how the kaiser android port was going, the hero build is pretty nice
15:01.16Marajinyo dcordes_
15:08.58FR^2Hmm. I will go shopping today and get a cardreader for microSD cards so that I can try htc-linux :)
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15:11.24Marajinhey AstainHellbring
15:11.30MarajinFR^2: sounds like a plan!
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15:11.41MarajinFR^2: but can't you just use the phone itself to read/write teh card?
15:11.56Marajinor are you planning to use seperate partitions?
15:11.56FR^2Marajin: How do I partition using Windows Mobile?
15:12.12FR^2I thought it was advised to partition?
15:12.32Marajinas far as I know we mostly don't bother as it's fine using a single file over the fat32 partitions
15:13.05FR^2ah
15:13.11Marajinonce you've booted you can read the base fat32 partition anyway
15:13.35FR^2well, all in all, I don't think I'll get very far - it's a HTC Wings 220 (HTC S730)
15:13.51Marajinyou could in theory just use an initrd to boot and then partition right from that too
15:14.14Marajinah..
15:14.20Marajinthat could be interesting then yes :P
15:14.28MarajinI have a hermes, kaiser and kovsky
15:15.36MarajinI don't think they ever got the sd/mmc controller working on the hermes, the kaiser is finally progressing pretty nicely and the kovsky is looking promising
15:18.30FR^2If I had known that windows mobile still is "like beta version" or worse, I wouldn't have bought that thing ;)
15:18.51Marajinah it's not so bad if you tweak it a bit and have a nice custom rom
15:18.55FR^2And I know that it will be quite some time until I can replace mw with linux
15:19.03MarajinI, unfortunately, need something exchange compatible
15:19.21MarajinI may get the palm pre next to be honest, as I've got a little sick of HTCs tendency to fuck everything up with bad hardware
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15:21.50FR^2Hmm.
15:24.07FR^2modifying my wm installation? I thought of maybe using that other wm6.1 flash thing... I'm still a newbie concerning such mobiles.
15:24.33Marajinwell, there's always a risk but you get some nice bonuses to flashing new custom roms
15:24.37FR^2Long ago I used QPE on my PDA (16 greyscales, 16MByte rom, 16MByte ram...)
15:24.44FR^2That was nice.
15:24.45Marajinmore stability/featureset/etc.
15:24.48Marajinheh :p
15:25.27Marajinyeah, things came a long way when you look at stuff like the kovsky (800x480, 16bit colour, 512MB NAND, 256MB RAM)
15:25.40FR^2hehe
15:26.24FR^2The bad thing is that nowadays there's so many different models each with a different set of hardware that developers of drivers don't have enough time at all :/
15:27.04FR^2HTC is a good example ;)
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15:29.52druidu_ops, sorry, wrong paste :D
15:31.53Marajinheh :p
15:32.37druidu_anybody with diamond/raphael/kovsky/blackstone?
15:32.53druidu_I updated 2.6.27 branch with latest code from upstream
15:33.42druidu_only tested diamond gsm, maybe someone can test for other devices / update configs
15:34.34MarajinI have a kovsky
15:34.51Bally3hey newb
15:35.10Bally3followed your instuctions
15:35.54Bally3i thik you had to cd intothe stoclk-system directory before running genext2fs
15:36.10Bally3can you manully copy all the files into temp now?
15:50.02FR^2Marajin: can you point me on the howto on starting linux from the microSD card?
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16:11.30Daemon_Guys, I have a question about touch screens. It seems, that MSM7200 has embedded touch screen controller and HTC devices use it (Vogue, Raphael), but what about G1, G2, G3? All of them have capacitive screen, anybody knows what type of touch screen controller they have?
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16:54.08dcordes_Daemon_, http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Raphael
16:54.31Gnutoohi,is an android question out of topic
16:54.41GnutooI can't receive calls with the generic ril
16:55.00Gnutoocould it be in the ril itself
16:55.12Gnutooor could it be that I use an official build repo?
16:55.25dcordes_I thought you built generic ril yourself
16:55.36GnutooI build it
16:55.48GnutooI only added some lines in a file
16:56.00Gnutooto use it and to use -d /dev/smd0
16:57.45Gnutoorild.libpath=/system/lib/libreference-ril.sol ; rild.libargs=-d /dev/smd0 in system.prop
16:57.57Gnutoothe wifi caffe I am in is closing
16:58.39GnutooI'll try to go in another one
16:58.43dcordes_fraid I can't help there sir
16:59.08dcordes_Marajin, the kaiser android builds are worth trying? :)
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17:00.01dcordes_Marajin, I'd like to try the uptodate kernel and see what works with angstrom. especially wondering if we can get wifi to work and how to control power management
17:00.40Gnutoook I'll try to see what fso does
17:00.44GnutooI'll go thanks a lot
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17:39.22mickeyldcordes_: might fix the defconfig when you push something new
17:40.16dcordes_mickeyl, do you have a known working one?
17:41.41mickeyldidn't follow anything after a96a5b984f83a5d6b81764f68ce6abd90800ef05. my last known working one was the one from c3d95dfe60bb231c743585dabab5c5a8b1baf826
17:41.51mickeylare there any new developments in kernel worth testing?
17:41.59dcordes_yes see commit log
17:42.08dcordes_I need to go buy food bbl
17:43.08mickeylhmm
17:43.22mickeylcommit log doesn't exactly tell user visible improvements
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18:17.20FR^2Hiho
18:17.54FR^2Hiho
18:18.28mickeylyo
18:19.19FR^2Now where was that howto on installing htc linux on a storage card again? ;)
18:20.21mickeylwiki.htc-linux.org perhaps
18:20.38mickeylif not, then you're doomed to dive through the yankyard of the hh.org wiki
18:20.42mickeylyunkyard even
18:23.46FR^2handhelds.org?
18:23.54mickeylyep
18:24.07mickeyllast but not least, there's the forum/wiki @ xda linux
18:27.08FR^2Hmm. Damn... I think I went across it some days ago, but now I'm too dumb to find it.
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18:35.55GnutooI hope calls will work with this provisioning thing
18:36.04Gnutoos/calls/receiving calls/
18:37.45mickeylwhat are you working on?
18:40.06GnutooI've bought a g1
18:40.09Gnutooas you know
18:40.21Gnutooas I wasn't very sucessfull with GNU/Linux
18:40.26GnutooI tried to free the android stack
18:40.29Gnutooand I succedded
18:40.37Gnutoosound is working
18:40.44Gnutooril should work now
18:41.06Gnutooso now I've something that does phone and audio player
18:41.23Gnutoobut still not great because I can't run GNU/Linux apps
18:41.59Gnutoos/I tried/so I tried
18:42.33Gnutoobtw what's the status of the GNU/Linux port on G1?
18:42.45mickeylno idea. what needs to be ported?
18:42.56Gnutoowe need standard kernel drivers
18:43.05Gnutoofor instance sound,framebuffer
18:43.15Gnutookdrive works but not Xorg
18:43.32Gnutoowe think kdrive hack arround
18:43.42Gnutoobut kdrive is not maintained anymore
18:44.00Gnutoowe also have some issues with input
18:44.07Gnutoothat's why I was told to try xorg
18:44.25Gnutoofor instance the m key has a problem but works in android
18:44.45Gnutooone press = press second press = release instead of one press = press+release
18:44.46mickeylhmm i see. so not much better than the raphael status except in-call audio
18:44.54Gnutoook
18:44.59Gnutoolol
18:46.03Gnutooand issues with touchscreen too
18:46.29GnutooI heard that leviathan was able to make it work but I wasn't able to reproduce
18:46.57Gnutoothe good things is that we have the sources
18:47.10Gnutoothe bad thing is that we have few people working on it
18:48.16mickeyl*nod*
18:48.27mickeylwith so few kernel hackers i don't see much chance
18:48.40mickeylbut don't let yourself be demotivated... hang on :)
18:50.25Bally3Gnutoo: wait till spetember.. everyone will come back and it will all kick off again ... ppl are on hols right now :)
18:50.37Gnutoook
18:51.01GnutooI have even fewer time than before,because I'm studying for an exam
18:52.07Bally3raph is much newer than polaris.. and we're still going..I'm sure it'll pick up again
18:53.05Bally3runs around the room screaming "working wifi on polaris woo hoo!"
18:53.10Bally3;)
18:53.15Gnutoowow
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18:54.29Bally3yeah.. ace isnt it? thhats what I mean..a few monnths ago.. polaris was dead in the water.. today we're almost to a full rom.. camera and bluetooth to be ported yet
18:56.54Gnutoook
18:56.57Gnutoowow
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19:33.25c4softwarehi everyone
19:37.58FR^2hiho
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20:03.36Marajinhey c4software nitroxide
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20:04.43MarajinBally3: wifi? woot :)
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20:05.10tmztBally3: polaris is really close to kaiser though, and it's been supported mostly since dzo got one
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20:05.41Marajinyo tmzt
20:05.45nitroxidehey, is there some haret developer here ?
20:06.00Marajinnitroxide: Kevin2 from memory
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20:06.21nitroxidei'm searching the guy who started haret
20:06.28Marajinno idea
20:06.47Marajinwhy do you need the guy who started it?
20:07.29nitroxidecoz i was speaking with him long time ago
20:07.53Marajintry asking Kevin2, I seem to remember he's involved with haret
20:08.05nitroxideyep
20:08.38nitroxideMarajin: you know if new kernel changes has been done to support htc athena >
20:08.39nitroxide?
20:08.44tmzthe didn't start it, but he knows who did
20:09.01Marajinnitroxide: nope, I don't follow the athena, I have hermes/kaiser/kovsky
20:09.27Marajinjust recently tried the latest build for the kaiser, pretty impressive.. wifi/bluetooth/camera and it's a pretty feature complete pack then
20:10.20nitroxidewhich kernel is it ?
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20:10.20Marajinnitroxide: AstainHellbring might know, i think he has athena
20:10.36nitroxideMarajin: you don't know the kernel version ?
20:10.54Marajinfor the athena? no
20:11.02nitroxideno, the one you're running
20:11.07Marajinpeople are using anything from .25 to .29
20:11.12Marajinoh mine's on .27 afaik
20:11.15nitroxideok
20:11.30nitroxidei tested .29 and a many stuff is not yet supported
20:11.51nitroxidea guy told me few days ago he will commit patch and fix to make everything work
20:11.53Bally3tmzt: true indeed,, but I'm ust saying theres hope for all devides
20:11.54Marajinhttp://www.androidonhtc.com/ <-- bunch of android packs here and info on port status
20:11.55nitroxidecrc..
20:12.18nitroxidenice
20:12.20Bally3devices even
20:12.21nitroxidethx Marajin
20:12.30Bally3Marajin: great news isnt it :D
20:12.34Marajinhttp://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Athena <-- also try that
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20:12.57MarajinBally3: the wifi? yep :) Though I'd really love to see the kovsky port leap ahead, something like the android hero build would be gorgeous on the kovsky
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20:13.23Bally3true enough..
20:13.43tmztMarajin: there's been some effort on that, it needs cleaned up though
20:16.12Marajintmzt: yeah, it's quite nice on my kaiser, laggy as hell but then again, it's supposedly laggy on the htc hero itself, they've overdone the capabilities of MSM7xxx chipsets I guess
20:16.37MarajinI find the pattern lock screen really buggy because it keeps constantly deciding I let go of the TS sometimes
20:16.50rafyvittohey tmzt is the accelerometer also working for the raph110? i saw the latest commit, it says the diamond is supporting all the raph drivers and also the accelerometers
20:16.53Marajinbut I have 3G/EDGE working great and it's even syncing to my exchange server
20:17.11MarajinGPS seems to work great too
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20:37.13xperiahello to all
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21:07.58xperiahmm something with the irc logger from netripper is wrong ! http://irclog.netripper.com/?chan=htc-linux&month=8&day=31
21:16.14Squarc!seen tmzt
21:16.23Squarc~seen tmzt
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21:29.07dcordes~seen cr2
21:29.09aptcr2 <n=cr2@ip-77-25-251-112.web.vodafone.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 23h 39m 16s ago, saying: 'great.'.
21:34.22druiduhey dcordes
21:34.28druiduwhat device do you have? :)
21:34.37dcordeskaiser, kovsky
21:34.53druidudid you try the latest sources from git?
21:35.06dcordesno but I will sure try tomorrow. I have seen your work. pretty nice
21:35.17druiduI synced with the android rep, latest 2.6.27 branch now
21:35.47druiduI'm gonna write a quick vibrator driver, so that I can play with the morse code app :)
21:39.10dcordeswhich morse code app?
21:39.25xperiadcordes: do you know where the microp dll are located ?
21:39.33dcordesno
21:40.10xperiaand how about the kernel ?
21:46.39druiduthe one in android, api demos -> OS
21:46.49druiduit translates chars intro morse vibrations :)
21:47.24druiduvibration doesn't currently work in android (there's no compatible driver, although we have code to turn it on)
21:47.28druiduso I'm gonna write one :P
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21:49.10NetRipperxperia, thx :) working again now
21:49.33druiduhey NetRipper
21:49.39NetRipperheya
21:49.47xperiaNetRipper: whats going on with the logs. in the last days the logs were off for some time
21:50.14NetRipperi guess it had to do with my db issues
21:50.28NetRipperdb went down on friday due to a hostname change
21:50.48NetRipperforgot about the logger
21:50.52tmzthow long has it been out? you log directly to db?
21:51.02NetRipperyes
21:51.07NetRipperdirectly to db
21:51.20tmztI have timezone issues, but complete logs for the week in irssi's format
21:51.31xperiatoday i beleive the whole day
21:51.31NetRipperi dont have a parser
21:51.45NetRipperdoesn't matter.. it's unfortunate but shouldnt happen often ;)
21:51.47tmztyeah, haven't even tried parsing it before
21:51.55tmztthough rikers is probably up
21:52.04tmztit's just not real time
21:52.46xperiarikers is not real time as you said.you dont know what was speaked in the last hours.
21:53.32druidubtw, who's madcoder ?
21:53.48xperianice work still NetRipper. for me the logs are very helpfull.
21:54.30xperiadruidu: it is joe. the mail adress you can find in the microp linux drivers
21:54.55druiduI know, I was wondering what's his nickname
21:55.13druidudoes anyone know if the vibrator supports like multiple vibration modes?
21:55.19druidustatic void htcraphael_set_vibrate(uint32_t val)
21:55.26tmztpwm?
21:55.29druiduthis would suggest this, but I found that they all do the same
21:55.35tmztyou can try the hrt based stuff from google if not
21:55.36druidudunno, google driver just uses a hrtimer
21:55.44druiduI was going to do that anyway
21:55.48druiduso it's compatible with android
21:56.12druidubut was wondering if it can do more than on/off... I tried different values and couldn't sense any difference
21:56.48tmztthat's what the hrt should do, if you turn it on/off fast enough
21:57.50druiduI know that, but it would take less resources to do in hardware :)
21:59.11tmztif it's supported
21:59.14tmztwhat device? diam?
21:59.22tmzthow is it connected?
22:00.36NetRipperxperia, someone else built the script once.. i just took over hosting it
22:00.37NetRipper:)
22:02.34Marajinyo
22:02.47xperiaNetRipper: hosting is that what makes it to work ;-)
22:04.03NetRippertrue
22:04.03NetRipper:)
22:07.54druidutmzt: yes, diam. it's activated via proc_comm and it seems there's a certain memory address where you would write the pattern or smth
22:08.05tmztoh, ok
22:08.09druidutried with various values and couldn't feel a difference
22:08.12tmztbut physically, how is it connected?
22:08.41druidudunno...
22:09.48druiduhttp://www.phonewreck.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Touch_Pro
22:10.02druiducan't see where it would be on the board either
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22:26.26druidu+0xfc130   VREG_Level (for DEX 0x1a/set level)
22:26.29druiduanybody know what this is
22:26.55druiduin raphael memory map, in shared ram (01f00000)
22:28.56tmztvoltage regulator
22:29.05tmztwhat's it used for?
22:29.17druiduit's used in the vibrator code
22:29.25druidusets the voltage level, then activates vibrator
22:29.28tmztok
22:29.37druiduwould it have any effect?
22:29.58tmztlike?
22:30.07tmztit should feel like less vibration
22:30.12tmztbut not pulsed
22:30.17tmztyou would still have to pulse it
22:30.26tmztif ther gpio as well as vreg?
22:31.45druidunope, don't think so... vibra is set to on via proc comm
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22:32.31cr2hi
22:32.42druiduhello
22:33.00cr2dcordes: ping
22:33.24cr2druidu: something brand new happening ?
22:33.40druiduwell, I pushed my 2.6.27 patch on git
22:34.01druiduworking on a msm_vibrator.c-based vibrator driver
22:34.13druidu+0xfc130   VREG_Level (for DEX 0x1a/set level)
22:34.26druiduis this global or just applies to vibrator... or how exactly?
22:34.42cr2it's for 2 param DEX calls
22:34.53cr2~ping dcordes
22:34.54aptpong dcordes
22:35.30druiduso it has no effect for set_vibra_on ?
22:35.40druiduPCOM_VIBRA_OFF / PCOM_VIBRA_ON
22:35.45cr2maejrep has written VREG, because it's the only one known 2 parameter call
22:36.06druiduso vibrator doesn't use that at all right?
22:36.09cr2it's voltage level in mV
22:36.35druidu2850mV max
22:36.35cr2you can change vibrator voltage, so it'll probably get a different sound
22:36.41druidunope
22:36.49druiduyou need modulation / PWM for that
22:36.54druidumaybe different strength
22:37.00cr2i think it depends on the "channel"
22:37.09cr2but we don't have any PMIC docs
22:37.24cr2yeah, it's a hack
22:38.16cr2hehe. dcordes does not respond. and i've just stopped 50km away from Köln
22:38.19druiduso if I get this right... the general architecture
22:38.37druiduwe have the msm7201a chip
22:38.40druiduand the baseband processor
22:38.51druiduand the power management chip
22:39.10druiduwe have the AMSS that runs on the baseband processor, right?
22:39.18cr2baseband+gps
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22:39.34cr2look at the MSM7201A diagramm at qcom site
22:39.55cr27201A=arm9+arm11
22:40.09druiduthey have that?
22:40.12cr2arm9 aka modem, runs AMSS
22:40.13druidudiagrams
22:40.22cr2googling
22:40.35druiduok, so I get that, so we use RPCs to communicate with AMSS
22:40.41cr2yes
22:40.45druiduand proc_comm?
22:40.51druidujust for the power management chip?
22:41.02cr2it's non-RPC shmem communication
22:41.20cr2more or less yes
22:41.49druiduyeah, I see, you write the request, wait for the response
22:42.06druiduand the DEX part? that does that stand for?
22:42.45cr2DataEXchange
22:43.03druiduduh :)
22:43.25cr2more lowlevel protocol
22:43.28cr2than rpc
22:44.13cr2the arm9 then sends SBI (something like spi) commands to the PMIC and other chips
22:45.00druiduah, so proc_comm is more low level than rpc but still communicates with the AMSS, true
22:45.13cr2yes
22:45.15druiduok, things look much clearer now :)
22:45.18dcordescr2, pong
22:45.21druiduI was really coding blindly there
22:45.26cr2hi dcordes
22:45.37cr2dcordes: are you already sleeping
22:46.23cr2druidu: it's actually a mess. even though android people messed with AMSS, they still have all 3 options:
22:46.36dcordescr2, nope
22:46.42cr2direct hardware calls, DEX aka proc_comm and rpc
22:46.42dcordeswas afk sorry
22:47.04cr2dcordes: i'm 50 km away from Köln. at A3
22:47.12dcordeswanna stop by?
22:47.30cr2UMTS didn't want to work at A3 before.
22:47.50cr2can visit you if you are not sleeping :)
22:47.52druiducr2: LOL, you're like driving and IRC-ing?
22:48.04cr2druidu: no, just stoppe
22:48.18dcordesok you're welcome
22:48.37cr2druidu: umts is a great thing. as long as you are driving below 250km/h :)
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22:48.56cr2dcordes: hehe. police drove by
22:49.06druiduhaha, nice
22:49.58druiduok, so AMSS is the radio image (first part of the firmware, around ~20MB)
22:49.59druidu?
22:50.36cr2yes, it's the firmware operating the modem, gps and control chips
22:50.57cr2is based on the L4 microkernel, has a lot of thumb code
22:51.07cr2it's an ELF image
22:51.09druiduso which one is the wince kernel then?
22:51.21cr2dcordes: pm me the address.
22:51.29druiduSPL is for htc phones like what BIOS is for PCs right?
22:51.30cr2druidu: arm11
22:51.56cr2SPL is an arm11 boot console, like uboot or bios on pcs
22:53.44druiduok, so where is the actual kernel file? is it in OS.nb ?
22:54.47cr2wince kernel ?
22:55.26cr2druidu: ok, i'll drive fürther, or it'll be too late. bbl
22:57.11tmztdruidu: kernel is xip
22:57.55druiduaaaah, I get it
22:58.16druiduthere are some dlls that are extracted in special way, like a few sections and some file that maps them to memory
22:58.46druidulike ril.dll
22:59.08druidubtw, I made a tutorial on how to extract files from the firmware
22:59.09druiduhttp://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_Extract_an_OS_Image
22:59.30druidumaybe someone can link it on the homepage, might be useful
22:59.36druiduI know I had a hard time figuring this part out
22:59.53tmztwhat tools are you using?
23:00.39druiduI listed everything there, NBHextract and stuff from imgfsutils
23:00.57druiduImgsfsFromNb extracts the actual files
23:01.14tmztyeah, ok
23:01.19tmztso you do that with wine?
23:01.24druiduyep
23:01.26druiduworks like magic
23:01.32tmztyou can use some tools from htc-flasher as well
23:02.08druiduI know I tried a lot of stuff at some point (well, I was trying to extract the os image from a spl- or radio-only image... but nevermind that)
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23:35.13druiduweee, vibrator works in android :D
23:38.14dcordesbwwrrrrr
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23:46.08cr2hi again
23:47.40cr2dcordes: looking where to park
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23:51.23dcordescr2, you can park in my driveway
23:51.38dcordescr2, you in ratingen already?
23:51.55cr2yes.
23:52.08cr2stay near Kamps
23:52.37cr2druidu: search on google for 'msm7200A datasheet'
23:53.07dzohi
23:53.13cr2hi dzo
23:53.27dzojust playing with diamond.
23:53.48cr2ok
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23:54.38dzowhy aren't you guys using the ram console, makes things a whole lot easier, i just pushed a change to enable it on diamond.
23:55.01tmztwhat do you read it from spl/ce with?
23:56.05cr2dzo: it will need printks anyway.
23:56.06dzoput in smem and then pwf in haret, i have a script to do it automatically. 0xe0000 + 128K survives a reboot.
23:56.37dzocr2: how do you mean?
23:56.58druidutmzt: I used ImgsfsToDump which takes a imgs.bin and creates a `dump` directory with all the files
23:57.23tmztyeah
23:57.59druiduso cr2, yes, the wince kernel... what are the most important files there? ril.dll ?
23:58.02cr2dzo:
23:58.54druidudzo: whaaaaaat, you write stuff in ram and it survives a reboot with the little red button?
23:59.23dzoyes, otherwise it's really hard to debug a crash....
23:59.54tmztwould kdump help?

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