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10:17.44MattJ100attempts to sneak past the topic
10:17.52MattJ100Anyone here developing or using Android on HTC/Kaiser?
10:18.11MattJ100I asked in #android too, but there doesn't seem much channel overlap :)
10:21.31swc|666MattJ100, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=android+on+kaiser
10:21.52MattJ100smacks forehead
10:22.07MattJ100Been there, done that :)
10:22.07swc|666lol
10:25.33swc|666MattJ100, you want to buy my domain?
10:25.36swc|666android-linux.com :p
10:26.24MattJ100That's the second time I've been offered a domain in a week :)
10:26.59swc|666orly
10:27.11swc|666third time is the charm
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10:27.26swc|666#3 - i'll sell you ubuntu.cx :p
10:27.53MattJ100I have no idea what I'd do with either of them :)
10:28.17swc|666lol
10:31.46FR^2MattJ100: Isn't that clear? Having a really neat email address! ;)
10:32.40MattJ100I have too many email addresses already :)
10:32.51FR^2hehe, ack ;)
10:33.14FR^2Or "having too many email addresses" itself isn't that bad - but having no overview is bad ;)
10:33.20MattJ100:)
10:33.45MattJ100At the moment I'm pondering dropping Gmail, which I've used almost exclusively for several years
10:34.32FR^2MattJ100: Why change now? Why bother? Google nows what you did last summer...
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10:36.35swc|666yea no shit
10:42.24MattJ100FR^2, ah well, I just decided I can do a better job of hosting it myself :)
10:43.29phhMattJ100: at home ?
10:43.45phhthat seems really optimistic.
10:43.55MattJ100On my VPS
10:44.06phhwell maybe then
10:44.10MattJ100I'm an optimistic kind of guy ;)
10:44.57FR^2MattJ100: Hehe, for about two years I didn't find the time and concentration to set up my mail system...
10:45.46MattJ100It's taken me about 2 years to perfect mine :)
10:46.41MattJ100and it works... right down to every email address being a Jabber/GTalk address :)
10:50.12swc|666i've been hosting from home forever, its ftw
10:50.15swc|666and i run my own jabber server ;)
10:50.28swc|666i.e., fsck google
10:50.34MattJ100Excellent :)
10:50.43swc|666all my infos are belong to me
10:51.27swc|666business internet with static ip's is like ~$12 more/mo for me than residential anyhow
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14:47.19xperiacan somebody tell me how to disable these irqs here in haret.
14:47.21xperia013133: mem IRQS(0) 95300080=00010000 (00010000)
14:47.23xperia013133: mem IRQS(0) 95300080=00080000 (00080000)
14:47.24xperia013133: mem IRQS(0) 95300080=00010000 (00010000)
14:47.26xperiaibit irqs 33 dont work.
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16:20.54xperiatmzt are you here
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16:45.42xperiawhat is a alt gpio ?
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17:32.57Aiv-hello
17:32.59Aiv-xperia hello
17:33.32Aiv-xperia i saw your changes at htc-linux wiki. What does mean cfg=XXX?
17:42.00xperiahey aiv great to hear you :-)
17:43.16xperiawell i have speaked one day with cr2 and he told me this are alt gpios. becouse of that i have put the info in this colon based on the conversation. i have changed also the vregs that he told me for wlan and so on.
17:43.57Aiv-gr8
17:44.02xperiaP.S. i have just asked a question on the xda forum. maybe you are the ideal candidate for testing something.
17:44.15Aiv-did u have some success with wifi ?
17:45.07xperiado you have winmo 6.5 flashed on your xperia. i need a guy with winmo 6.5 on xperia that can access haret from the haret console.
17:45.32Aiv-i ahve clear rom ATM
17:46.00xperiado you mean winmo 6.1 as it was delivered.
17:46.34Aiv-yap
17:46.43Aiv-i need some time to flash new rom
17:46.53xperia:-(
17:48.43Aiv-maybe u remember, some time ago someone lunch wifi on htc phone
17:48.51Aiv-this htc phone was based on wifi kovsky chip
17:48.58Aiv-WL1251B
17:49.02Aiv-do u remember phone name?
17:49.28Aiv-this system was delivered with openmoko or something link this
17:49.38xperiafor the wifi. first i am working on mircop-klt and had some success with the help of cr2 and madcoder. i am closing to get the leds working but need some info how to implement a hardcoded LED Table.
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18:00.02xperiasecond based on the conversation with leviathan that has has wifi working on his g1 phone with the same wifi chip you need this driver here. http://bobcopeland.com/android_wifi.html there are some msm patches.
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18:12.03elliswayhi all
18:15.51xperiahello
18:17.50elliswaysry to all who have been having issues using the wiki
18:17.58elliswayover the last couple of days
18:19.26xperiayou mean the htc-linux.org wiki. if yes it was spam yes that blocked the wiki right ?
18:19.37elliswayno
18:19.49elliswayi`ve clean a load of the spam off the talk page
18:20.10elliswaybut the issues were due to me migrating the site to a different server
18:21.50elliswayi`ve also locked the talk page to try and stop the spam that was hitting it
18:23.07xperiait works allready full. i have registered for abaou two hours and added edited new stuff for htc-kovsky.
18:23.40elliswayyeh i`ve seen you editing stuff :)
18:24.08elliswayi was more concerned about the spamming than anything else
18:26.31xperiathe spam is bad. it looks like advertising. dont know if the rules are too easy. i was able to registry and edited the pages without confirmation. dont know if for the talk page this is also possible but maybe a email notification before editing something would prevent this.
18:27.22elliswayyeh i was thinking of locking the site so that only users from here can edit stuff
18:27.35elliswaybut not sure if that would be 2 restrictive
18:27.59elliswayand the last thing i want is to make the site unfriendly
18:28.24elliswaysaying that though it would be nice to get more content on their
18:28.30elliswayfor other devices
18:28.46xperiaother possibility is captchas . this would 100% prevent robots to spam the site
18:29.00ellisway$true
18:29.12elliswayneed to look into that for media wiki
18:32.19xperiafor me the handling of the page is very easy and good. Exactly how i like it. No big barriers. Just registering and starting with editing the wiki content. On the otherside such a userfriendly handling can be a invaiting for spambots.
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18:40.16elliswaygonna setup the recaptcha extension on the wiki
18:40.23elliswayshould be done in a few mins
18:40.50xperiaokay when you are done i will test it :-)
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18:52.48elliswayshould be done now
18:53.28xperiaokay thanks for the feedback. i will go now to test it and write back
18:54.30elliswayk seems like its ok from here
18:54.46elliswaybut the feedback will be appreciated
18:56.02dcordeshey ellisway, xperia, others
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18:56.48elliswayhi dcordes
18:57.01elliswaybeen doing stuff on the server as you know
18:57.16xperiahelo dcordes. ellisway could it be that the captcha dont work. i had to type two words. i have typed only the first word right the other word was wrong "test" and i was able to edit the content
18:57.21elliswaycurrently i`ve added the recaptcha extension on the wiki
18:57.34elliswayto try and kerb the spamming
18:57.37dcordesyea read the log
18:57.49xperiathe captcha itself is great by the way.
18:58.05dcordesyea great thing! it's better than excluding those who don't wanna be club member
18:58.19elliswayaparently the recaptcha plugin is ok with only a single word being correct
18:58.49xperiaahhh okay
18:59.05xperiathen it works great
18:59.32elliswayhave you checked it via the audio captcha aswell as the text 1
18:59.41dcordesellisway, regarding the attactivity of the site I think it's even more important to add a nice frontpage
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19:01.10xperiano audio i didnt have tested
19:01.39xperiabut having this feature it makes the captcha very advanced
19:03.12xperiai am very happy with tne new feature now. great work ellisway !
19:03.48dcordesfinally the spam is gone
19:03.56dcordeswe should port the non-A wiki pages
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19:06.50elliswaynext thing is to create a new frontpage for the site
19:07.25elliswaythe current frontpage can be moved to a subdir called htcpxa
19:08.08elliswayas that was the username of it on the linuxtogo site
19:09.58dcordesthat will be best
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19:30.13dcordesmarajin, ping?
19:31.13dcordesanybody interested in making a new frontpage for htc-linux.org ?
19:37.09tehblahopefully
19:37.10tehbla;)
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19:38.04tehblahttp://drupal.org - not too complicated and massive community with thousands of contributions
19:38.51Bally3tehbla: drupal had massive security flaws up till 4.2
19:39.19tehblawe're at 6.13
19:39.25tehblashortly before 7
19:39.37tehblaso.. linux had them also with kernel 1.5
19:39.41Bally3yeah.. just pointing this out.. dont know whether its been fixed
19:39.47tehbla;)
19:40.17tehblashould be.. even mtv or newyorktimes is using it
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19:40.25Bally3ut why drupal for a frontpage? its like using a power saw to cut cake
19:40.28FR^2http://cmsmadesimple.org/
19:41.03tehblawell.. y a frontpage only?
19:41.11elliswayjust need a frontpage people not a cms
19:42.20Bally3meh..create a static page... if you're really bad at that.. use the simpler cms's like the one above
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19:42.30Bally3drupal is a framework
19:42.56gnutoohi, are the free android port on-topic ?
19:43.00dcordeshello Zoolooc, gnutoo
19:43.00Bally3it'll take you a week to figure out what a taxnomy is :P
19:43.10gnutoohi
19:43.17gnutoobecause I've got ril working
19:43.29gnutooso I started looking at sound
19:43.35Zooloochi there
19:43.36tehblabally3, thats for sure! :)
19:43.42dcordesgnutoo, nice. good to have a free alternative for the android users. do you have sound too?
19:43.47Bally3lol
19:43.47dcordesok
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19:44.05gnutoocombining /home/android/freedroid/hardware/msm7k/libaudio/AudioHardware.cpp and playwav2.c could make sound work
19:44.07elliswaywe could all go and setup 1 of the many hundreds of cms systems that exsit
19:44.11gnutoobut I'm not good at c++
19:44.21gnutooand mediaplayer segfault with my modifications
19:44.35elliswaybut what a waste of time when all thats needed is a static fronpage with the links to where the current content is
19:45.06gnutoobtw what does the libhtc_acoustic does beside routing?
19:45.11elliswayalso a cms would be a waste of another sql db
19:46.14elliswayohwell back to using vi
19:46.30Bally3ellisway: whats vi?
19:46.58Bally3you could always <choke> use <choke> front page
19:47.10Bally3chokes
19:48.00elliswayhonestly if i was that bored i`d reinstall a old cobalt raq3 and run chillisoft then build a new frontpage in asp
19:48.49Bally3lol @ ellisway  what do you need this front page for anyway? we've got loads of pages ... google code..etc
19:49.48elliswayfor the htc-linux.org website
19:50.28elliswaynicde frontpage with things like links to the htc-linux.org/wiki xda-devs hh.org linuxtogo etc etc etc
19:52.00dcordesetc could be nice news section
19:53.19Bally3whats wrong with the wiki page on xda with a shorturl to it?
19:54.21dcordesBally3, I don't know what's wrong with such approach. if you wanna realize it, don't hesitate :)
19:54.39elliswaythe idea of htc-linux is to consoladate the data in 1 place and to mirror whats on the other sites
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19:55.42Bally3well this is the other issue.. websites are cool.. but its not the setting up.,. its the maintenance.. no-one wants to look after them afterwards...we got a Polaris wiki gathering dust and no-one to look after it.. everyone looks to me to do it :S
19:55.42elliswaydcordes i`m just gonna add a few more html tags to the current frontpage i`ve done to make it a tad more tidy
19:55.44dcordesBally3, somebody once put it like that: the SNR on xda is a bit annoying sometimes. I second that
19:55.54elliswaymake the url`s links and leave it at that for the mo
19:57.15dcordesBally3, well I don't think the single device approach is a good thing. you know how much the machines have in common
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19:57.47wirelessdreameranyone around that is running linux on apache?
19:58.10Bally3I agree.. especially since no-one  wants to look after individual pages
19:58.12wirelessdreameri'm wondering if any progress has been made on charging/3g/wifi
20:00.42dcordesBally3, in case of linwizard it seems to work well though
20:01.34Bally3it does indeed
20:02.46tehblawirelessdreamer.. well, i run apache on linux, if this counts :p
20:03.00dcordesbut the omap850 is something else than the msm which is very young and has way more actively used machines
20:12.45Bally3what does the hermes have?
20:13.25Bally3I got a spare one and was thinking about jigging up that project if anyones interested
20:13.56elliswaylast i remember it was the sd controller and keyboard that needed doing for the hermes
20:14.07dcordesright the ATI chip
20:14.18elliswayati sd
20:14.24dcordesBally3, you should talk to cr2. he will be happy somebody picks up his work
20:14.31dcordeswell I know he's done a lot a bout it
20:14.38elliswayshould also help with regards to the athena devices aswell
20:14.46Bally3its a nice little device.. bit bulky thats all.. but nice.. doesnt have the 2d or 3d isssues of the msm either
20:15.24elliswaywe should copy all of that info for hermes blueangel magician universal etc etc to the wiki
20:15.36Bally3would make a nice android device for sure
20:18.21elliswayhmm
20:18.23Bally3bleeangel.. aah yes.. my first foray on xdevs :P
20:19.31elliswaywhat else himalayas
20:19.55elliswaybasicly the same as the blueangel but without the keyboard
20:21.08elliswayanyway all will catch up l8r
20:21.26elliswaygotta go and have a look at a server for 1 of my clients
20:21.36elliswaytry and get it fixed for them before the morning
20:21.40Bally3laters ellisway
20:21.42Bally3:)
20:21.52Bally3hmm.. Samsung SC32442  for the hermes?
20:22.16elliswayyeh
20:22.36elliswayl8r Bally3
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22:01.41Echo31pH5: Hi. I preprared 9 patchs
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22:02.27Echo31cr2: Hi
22:02.32pH5hej Echo31, cr2
22:02.33cr2hi Echo31
22:02.39cr2hi pH5
22:03.00cr2Echo31: found the right alt values for i2c and spi ?
22:03.38Echo31cr2: yes. I found all values
22:05.17Echo31cr2: I set two unknown values GPIO51_GPIO,/* DPR-AT  */
22:05.17Echo31+GPIO52_GPIO,/* DPR-P2  */
22:06.00Echo31cr2: I made 9 patch files
22:08.01pH5Echo31: could you mail the patches to me?
22:08.07dcordeshi
22:08.17pH5hi dcordes
22:08.24cr2hi dcordes
22:08.42cr2Echo31: i'll check with the wiki
22:09.02Echo31cr2: yes. What is your mail address?
22:09.32dcordescr2, pH5 you guys have any thoughts on the http://htc-linux.org frontpage? what does it need?
22:10.14tmztauto builder?
22:10.30dcordestmzt, for kernel.git ?
22:11.02cr2tmzt: hh.org too ?
22:11.40cr2Echo31: it's an irq. =normal gpio
22:12.11cr2GPIO 50   00040000   DPR reset5   O
22:12.23cr2this looks strange. probably i missed something
22:13.34cr2+0x3fca   DPR-AT RX .start / gpio50_fe
22:14.43cr2GPIO 51   00080000   DPR-AT   I   FE   1
22:15.00cr250 should be DPR-AT FE then
22:15.13pH5dcordes: is it going to be a static page? I'd like clear links to the wiki, source code repos and communication channels (IRC, ML).
22:15.20cr2the whole table layout is broken, unfortunately
22:16.14cr2dcordes: maybe pictures too.if we get then (c)-free
22:16.56pH5and a sleek design. but who has time for that :)
22:17.09dcordespH5, I don't know. what do you want it to be? we can also update it. the source code repos links are already in the wiki
22:17.16dcordesbut we can of course add them on the front page too
22:17.26dcordesor the corresponding wiki link
22:19.40cr2Echo31: fixed the wiki
22:20.49pH5dcordes: no idea, don't trust my sense of style.
22:21.18pH5I think there are two kinds of people who'd go to htc-linux.org - those who just want to try installing it, and those who want to get their hands dirty.
22:21.51pH5The first ones only need per-device image downloads and installation manuals, the second ones need the repositories.
22:21.57dcordesthe hacker wants the minimalistic design and easy access to sources, the installer wants the files with instructions (htcpxa style)
22:21.59pH5Communication is important for everyone.
22:22.10dcordes:)
22:24.46cr2dcordes: it'll take some time to copy the relevant info from the xda-dev wiki
22:27.01cr2Echo31: i have my atiw analysis only in hardcopy. i'll try to find the sheets and type the code
22:27.07dcordescr2, do you have the working table phpwiki>mediawiki script?
22:27.12cr2Echo31: but it's not complete
22:27.23cr2dcordes: no, somebody else has done it
22:27.33cr2i don't remember who
22:28.06cr2the athena wiki doesn't look so nice as the raph wiki, because of that
22:28.13dcordesI've found the person in the logs but didn't manage to contact them
22:28.53cr2ok
22:29.29cr2dcordes: i'm looking for my g1 wifi fw copy
22:30.29cr2ebf5c2036d37bc56b4d41ddcbda4311e  ./RAPH/dump/Fw1251r1c.bin
22:30.30cr2ebf5c2036d37bc56b4d41ddcbda4311e  ./DIAM/dump/Fw1251r1c.bin
22:31.26cr27be50ef3cafa7f948b1065e3b2dc0e7c  ./system/etc/wifi/Fw1251r1c.bin
22:31.35cr2this is a g1
22:31.41tmztoh
22:31.46tmztsizes?
22:31.54cr2d7a214bdb9b4fbc2b4e2dd7e3ab95df0  ./system/etc/firmware/brf6300.bin
22:32.04tmztbluetooth?
22:32.11cr2need to parse this one (.bts dumper)
22:32.21cr2yes, it needs a fw too
22:33.06cr2./RAPH/dump/FM_on_2_1.bts
22:33.07cr2./RAPH/dump/TIInit_5_3_53.bts
22:33.09cr2./RAPH/dump/TIInit_5_2_34.bts
22:33.10cr2./RAPH/dump/FMInit_2.bts
22:33.12cr2./RAPH/dump/FM_on_2_0.bts
22:34.53cr2hm.. must be on the backup raid
22:34.59Echo31cr2: for the patch files, your address is   at crista.uni-wuppertal.de ?
22:35.31cr2185388 RAPH/dump/Fw1251r1c.bin
22:35.44cr2Echo31: no, use cr2@htc-linux.org
22:36.18Echo31cr2: ok. do you want the .config file ?
22:36.32cr2yes
22:36.40Echo31cr2: ok
22:44.38cr2Bally3: you want to work on hermes ?
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22:53.56Bally3cr2: are there any devs aroind for it?
22:54.19Bally3Ive got time to get the project started for a few weeks now
22:54.37Bally3do you gave one?
22:55.41Bally3have*
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23:20.32Echo31cr2: I send the files.
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23:24.12sakarthaGood Morning from Berlin Germany.
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23:30.11Echo31cr2: You checks the files and after you send to pH5 ?
23:30.54Echo31cr2: now, the atiw information have to be gathered from Qualcomm.
23:33.58Echo31cr2: see you soon
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