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08:12.34diz_Child.
08:13.04diz_Childis there a linux rom for any ppc?
08:14.51diz_Child......
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08:37.51xperiahello to all !
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09:34.12Gnutoohi tmzt,I cross-compiled xserver yesterday...I'll try it now
09:34.27Gnutoobtw do you know what driver I need to put in the config
09:35.33xperiadecordes how does the implementation of thw wlan driver goes ?
09:37.08Gnutoowlan for the G1?
09:37.20Gnutooare the patches in openmoko-msm-2.6.29?
09:37.39xperiammmh for the xperia but as i know it is the same as the g1
09:37.56Gnutoook
09:37.56xperiayeah they should be there
09:38.08Gnutooit didn't compile last time I tried
09:38.09Gnutooon:
09:38.13Gnutoo*master branch
09:38.18Gnutoo*2.6.30 branch
09:39.50xperiahmmm i am asking if all the patche were submitted then or if you are using a different kernel. the last time the levithian has said that he wanted to submit also other patches.
09:40.05Gnutoook
09:41.14xperianeed to talk with him but first i want to know if somebody is allready working on this or if he want to do this work in the future.
09:41.38xperiabefore i go to work on that
09:42.39Gnutoook
09:42.47Gnutoodo you need his mail?
09:44.21xperiai think i have it saved. he is a ccc member and studying on the highest electronic university in switzerland. it should be very easy to get in contact with him
09:44.56xperiaat the moment he is preparing for some tests
09:47.08xperiabecouse of that time could be for him a little free resource
09:48.56xperiagnutoo you have skipped tinyx now and are trying to get xorg working right. what was once again the reason for dropping tinyx
09:49.19Gnutoono upstream support
09:49.24Gnutooless features
09:49.33Gnutoobut bigger startup time
09:50.35xperiano upstream support ? does this mean not maintended
09:53.57Squarchey all
09:54.44xperiahello
09:55.16xperiai am away for 15 mins
09:56.46Gnutooyes
10:18.23Gnutooit didn't cross-compile xf86-video-fbdev automatically as a dep...so I cross compile it now
10:19.18Gnutooouch it doesn't cross-compile
10:19.25Gnutoomaybe xorg-server was not staged
10:20.12Gnutoommm it was staged
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10:25.04B1980hello
10:25.08Gnutooah ok there is #include ""
10:25.12Gnutooinstead of <>
10:25.17Gnutoobecause the files are staged
10:25.47B1980I was here yesterday, but no-one answered...I have a Niki (Touch Dual / P5500). I have android running on it. Now I want to know how the software works
10:26.01Gnutoohi
10:26.07B1980I followed the wiki and mounted the img file ... I have build an own kernel
10:26.32B1980But where would you say I could start to do some stuff that's fun to play around with to see how it works?
10:26.55B1980or is that a wrong question for here
10:27.22Gnutoowhat do you mean by "want to know how the software works" ?
10:27.58Gnutoobtw you could add your work at http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
10:28.04B1980I would like to do some developing, maybe even have something to contribute
10:28.06Gnutooto have a status page
10:28.14Gnutooah ok I understand
10:28.22Gnutooyou mean develop a program?
10:28.31Gnutoosuch as an userland program that is fun
10:29.11GnutooI don't know well htc's I've only a g1 and have SHR on it
10:29.12B1980well, actually I want to try too help making it work on my niki
10:29.21Gnutooah ok
10:29.38Gnutoothis irc channel is the best place to get in touch(lol) with people
10:29.46B1980lol
10:30.01B1980I know Dzo works in this stuff
10:30.07B1980what do you do?
10:30.20GnutooI am doing easy stuff for the g1
10:30.27Gnutoosuch as :
10:30.28B1980creating programs?
10:30.30Gnutoo*testing things
10:30.40Gnutoo*cross compiling things
10:30.44Gnutooetc...
10:30.47B1980ok
10:31.10B1980I don't know much about kernel programming and maybe it is just not smart for me to work on it :)
10:31.14Gnutoonow I must test/make xorg work
10:31.16B1980I'm just a C/C++ programmer
10:31.19Gnutoooik
10:31.22Gnutoos/i//
10:32.31Squarchuh :O
10:32.32Squarcoik
10:32.33B1980But you don't know where (in which directory or something) I should look when I mounted the system.img
10:32.34Squarcs/i//
10:32.43Squarccewl :P, nvm, Im quite
10:33.09B1980cruzy
10:33.15B1980s/u/a/
10:33.17B1980lol
10:33.25B1980vi stuff
10:34.40GnutooB1980, what do you mean by should look?
10:35.02GnutooB1980,first do you know what cross-compiling is?
10:35.47B1980yes...it's compiling for instance under Linux for other OS
10:36.03B1980Like I have compiled the kernel for android on my openSuSE linux system
10:38.53SquarcI thought is is more like: compiling under x86_64 for asm proc
10:39.06Squarcbut I can be wrong
10:39.32B1980ehm...ow, sorry, yes...compiling for a different arch
10:39.42Squarc:)
10:40.28xperiab1980 the best thing is if you first read ebooks like linux embedded. http://www.amazon.com/Building-Embedded-Linux-Systems-Yaghmour/dp/0596529686/ref=sr_1_2/187-7447599-9673103?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1250332718&sr=8-2
10:40.34B1980I've played around a bit with the android kernel...like make my led's light up a bit and stuf
10:40.48xperiathere will be answered all your questions
10:41.08B1980ok..cool
10:42.00Squarc*UCHE* http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3622904/Building_Embedded_Linux_Systems_by_Karim_Yaghmour
10:42.51SquarcI really hope Karim is not in here :o :$
10:43.23B1980lol
10:45.58xperiaclick in the amazon link on book in the uperleft corner to get the table of content. i still prefer buying a book as for researching and reading books are still more handy.
10:47.43B1980yes, I agree
10:48.01B1980but first I have to check if I should go on and buy this book
10:48.11B1980because I was doing this for a hobby, playing around, in my spare time
10:48.42B1980I'm affraid I don't have too much spare time for it :(
10:53.10B1980thanks a lot for your help everyone!
10:53.14B1980I have to go know...
10:53.26B1980see you around!
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11:01.34Gnutoommm I was told to buy embedded linux primer and it was a great book
11:05.08xperiaif i am not wrong there is also a book about open moko. i am not 100% if the book handle only how to write application for open moko or it handle the full range of the building and setting up the os.
11:06.01xperiaif the book nadle the whole how to build a emebeded pocket pc based os from scratch it is maybe the better book.
11:06.24xperiaas it handle also gsm/gprs wlan and such stuff
11:15.37xperiais here some i2c guy that can help me a litlle with debuging and testing i2c with the i2c-tools like i2cset
11:31.22Gnutoommm....(EE) FBDEV(0): FBIOPUT_VSCREENINFO: Invalid argument
11:31.43GnutooI must create a good xorg.conf
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11:32.09Gnutooxperia, wow...where's that book?
11:39.05dcordesGnutoo, I have an idea. let's build beagle demo image for htcraphael machine type.
11:39.25Gnutoodo you know narcisius
11:39.25Gnutoo?
11:39.38dcordesGnutoo, yea the koen image builder
11:39.43Gnutooyes
11:39.49dcordesnever used it
11:40.06dcordesbut I think we can't select armv6-novfp machine
11:40.14Gnutooah ok
11:40.21Gnutooso I should build something?
11:40.30Gnutoobut Xorg doesn't work yet
11:40.53Gnutoowhat are the screen parameters
11:40.56Gnutoo320x480
11:40.58Gnutoobut what dept?
11:41.10dcordesI'm thinking of the beagle demo images because it has well configured e17 desktop
11:41.20dcordeswith Xorg
11:42.00Gnutooah ok
11:42.04Gnutoobut it uses omapfb
11:42.16Gnutoothe driver is Driver "omapfb"
11:42.23GnutooI've its config to
11:42.25Gnutoos/to/too
11:43.02dcordeshm showstopper there
11:43.12dcordesright we can easily copy the config stuff from oe tree
11:43.20Gnutooyes that's what I did
11:43.33Gnutooand I changed omapfb in fbdev
11:43.43Gnutoobut it doesn't detect the screen
11:43.43dcordesand get the above error
11:43.56Gnutooso I'm trying to force the correct values
11:44.43dcordesbut device is there?
11:44.44Gnutooah ok 24bit
11:44.50Gnutooyes I've the device
11:44.56Gnutoo(htcdream)
11:45.04dcordesin xorg.conf
11:45.18dcordesdevice section. so it accepts the fbdev driver
11:46.51Gnutoommmm
11:46.53Gnutoo(==) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
11:48.43Gnutoohttp://pastebin.ca/1530405
11:51.46dcordesGnutoo, why does it want to load dri glx modules etc
11:51.53dcordesis that normal?
11:52.03GnutooI don't know but it doesn't find the screen
11:52.08Gnutooit's because I didn't install them
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11:56.40GnutooI'll go bye
11:56.50dcordesbye
11:57.25dcordesGnutoo, can you paste the xorg.conf ?
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13:48.45xperianeed to go bye.
13:48.50xperia.exit
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14:26.10Gnutoohi,btw yesterday I found a patch for tslib in oe
14:27.01Gnutoothere is:
14:27.01Gnutootslib-nopressure.patch
14:31.43dcordeshi again
14:32.11dcordesGnutoo, I'm in #angstrom discussing msm_fb a bit with XorA
14:32.22dcordesand Xorg
14:32.22Gnutoowow
14:32.25GnutooI join
14:37.22dcordestmzt, ping
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14:44.14dcordesGnutoo, http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2008-November/040502.html ?
14:44.32Gnutoothanks a lot I'll look
14:47.17Gnutoommm so what should I do?
14:48.23Gnutooit says it could be udev but udev is running,then it says that the omap stock kernel worksx
14:48.28Gnutoos/worksx/works
14:49.53dcordesGnutoo, I find the fbset thing interesting. what about that?
14:50.12GnutooI've pasted it in the xorg config
14:50.16dcordesyes it's omap specific but you won't find Xorg on msm_fb anywhere. but you could mail the Xorg list yourself.
14:50.21dcordesok
14:50.30dcordeshttp://www.pastebin.ca/1530520
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15:07.31Gnutoommm....I'll look in the kernel docs
15:07.36Gnutooit seems to be easy
15:07.43Gnutooin fb there is a file talking about modes
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15:45.19AstainHellbringhi!
15:46.14Gnutoohi
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15:46.45AstainHellbringhows it going?
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16:14.33GnutooI don't understand something
16:14.42GnutooI was told msmfb doesn't handle mode changing
16:14.44Gnutoobut...
16:14.46Gnutoothere is that
16:15.15Gnutoodefault: printk(KERN_INFO "msmfb unknown ioctl: %d\n", cmd);
16:15.28Gnutooso...changing the fb mode is an ioctl:
16:15.53Gnutooioctl(fh, FBIOPUT_VSCREENINFO, var)
16:18.43Gnutoohttp://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2008-November/040503.html
16:18.54Gnutoothat's for omapfb but I was pointed to that
16:19.04Gnutooso...it sent the ioctl to the device
16:19.11vilordhave you tried it?
16:20.14GnutooI've looked at the sources
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17:09.37tmztGnutoo: from X?
17:09.53tmztXorg?
17:10.05GnutooI've got X starting but I've a black screen and if I click on the screen I've
17:10.12Gnutoohttp://www.pastebin.ca/1530649
17:10.46Gnutooso not working yet
17:11.00Gnutoobtw sources were from framebuffer and fbset
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17:12.36tmztyeah
17:12.49tmztdo you have the update thread enabled?
17:14.16tmztas for Xorg, there's a patch to disable checking ixclock in fb modes equal
17:14.30tmztpixclock
17:15.47Gnutooyes I've the refresh thing
17:16.11GnutooCONFIG_FB_MSM_REFRESH=y
17:16.14tmztthen it should work
17:16.23tmztwhat's the error?
17:17.20Gnutoowhere should I look? in http://www.pastebin.ca/1530649 ?
17:23.48tmztit segfaulted
17:24.06tmztI've never used hal that way before
17:24.54tmztyou don't tslib
17:24.58tmztneed
17:25.08tmztlook at evtouch
17:25.25tmztand disable hal until we can get fdi made
17:27.14Gnutoook
17:27.34GnutooI'll disable hal
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17:32.21tmztcheck /var/log/Xorg.0.log
17:32.28tmztfor a backtrace
17:32.32Gnutoook
17:32.33tmztpaste that
17:33.03Gnutoo0: Xorg(xorg_backtrace+0x28) [0xe6f18]
17:33.07Gnutoothat's all
17:33.31GnutooI will need gdbserver+gdb
17:33.35Gnutooor a full image
17:33.40Gnutoobecause I've a mix of:
17:33.45Gnutoo*shr armv4
17:33.54Gnutoo*angstrom armv6-novfp
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17:36.21tmztmix, why?
17:36.53Gnutoobecause compiling takes time
17:36.54tmztoh, paste that url in #xorg-devel, it definately shouldn't segfault there
17:36.58Gnutooand it replaced the libc
17:37.02Gnutoook
17:37.11GnutooI'll bitbake a clean image and try that
17:37.20tmztipkg -S the libc
17:38.07GnutooI need a clean armv6-novfp image that's all
17:38.18Gnutoomaybe it won't segfault after that
17:38.20Gnutoono?
17:38.21tmztyou should be able to build shr for arm7 if you want
17:38.27tmztmaybe
17:38.33Gnutooyes it will only take time
17:38.41GnutooI do not use SHR because it's out of date
17:38.52Gnutoothey are importing things into .dev
17:39.05Gnutoobut not all is imported
17:56.03mickeylmorning folks
17:56.17mickeylany exciting news? ;)
17:56.50AstainHellbringthe sky is still there
17:57.36mickeyl*phew* glad to hear
17:57.45mickeylwas beginning to worry
18:11.18tmztgetting closer to oe on g1
18:12.27AstainHellbringoe on g1 huh
18:16.03Gnutoowe need a good kernel git repo
18:16.13Gnutoolinuxtogo need to host leviathan's kenrel
18:16.21Gnutoocause I can't checkout it
18:17.27GnutooI'm doing a fetchall and I'll go
18:18.18tmztwhy not?
18:18.38GnutooI don't know
18:18.46Gnutooor oe's git-native is broken
18:18.49Gnutooor is it something else
18:18.58Gnutoobut I won't commit something that doesn't work
18:19.00tmztdon't worry about kernel
18:19.07Gnutoook
18:19.17tmztswitch it to virtual
18:19.28GnutooI've it working into my tree
18:19.37Gnutoobut...I've done something hackish
18:19.48GnutooI've checked out with an external git program
18:19.59Gnutooand then it tarballed it
18:20.08Gnutooand It now passes kenrel build
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21:53.00darkstar62hi
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22:01.48Baconomaticis there a room for htc titan development?
22:03.27darkstar62this is probably as good as any, but I don't know of any in particular
22:04.01Baconomaticwell perfect then
22:04.38Baconomaticalso do you know where I could find the source for the titan android development?  Or is the wrong room for this
22:05.36darkstar62there's #android and #android-dev for android specific stuff, though they're geared more towards app development than porting
22:05.57Baconomaticokay hmm I will just keep looking for where to help out in the porting of it
22:21.58vilordvogue-android has titan working a little...
22:22.55vilordi hear that it comes up just fine with sdk 1.0, not well with 1.1, and not at all with 1.5
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