| 00:00.19 | nullkuhl | high-rez, did u ever flash ur htc before ? |
| 00:04.27 | tmzt | try #xda-devs, nullkuhl |
| 00:06.53 | nullkuhl | but not body is there.. ;S i mean no body is replying |
| 00:06.56 | nullkuhl | its just that i have a kaiser phone and i want to flash my rom to solace v3.1 as i think its a very fine rom, however it my first time ever to flash a rom, my phone is an original htc and nots locked to a certain carrier like vodafone or so . do i have to unlock the phone from a cid lock or so before flashing ?? |
| 00:08.02 | tmzt | that's what hspl does |
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| 00:08.26 | tmzt | it's not really relevant to linux so we don't help people with that here usually |
| 00:08.50 | high-rez | tmzt: would there be anything wrong with my starting at 0x000000 ? |
| 00:08.58 | high-rez | e.g. would it crash the device ? |
| 00:10.04 | tmzt | maybe |
| 00:10.16 | tmzt | or at least haret |
| 00:11.04 | high-rez | hey dude |
| 00:11.08 | high-rez | 0x0000000 worked |
| 00:11.10 | high-rez | and I think I got the SPL |
| 00:11.52 | high-rez | CMD>mddiw [Address] [Data] |
| 00:11.54 | high-rez | blah blah blah |
| 00:12.00 | high-rez | Look about right ? |
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| 00:37.02 | high-rez | Found this in the rom dump: mddi_toshiba_lcd_init |
| 00:37.26 | high-rez | I would think that would point to it being a toshiba mddi right ? |
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| 00:59.48 | lama | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1UvARHkyO4 |
| 00:59.50 | lama | lol |
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| 01:37.58 | TheSarge | Hey |
| 01:38.06 | TheSarge | Long time |
| 01:38.13 | tmzt | hey |
| 01:38.34 | high-rez | hey |
| 01:38.37 | TheSarge | Hey tmzt how ya been man? |
| 01:39.02 | tmzt | fine |
| 01:39.19 | TheSarge | Im an apple fanboy now LOL well as far as portable devices go |
| 01:39.40 | tmzt | still touch? or iPhone now? |
| 01:39.47 | TheSarge | Can't beat a jailbroken touch |
| 01:39.54 | tmzt | and have you looked at Pre? |
| 01:39.56 | TheSarge | Still? |
| 01:40.01 | tmzt | ah |
| 01:40.12 | TheSarge | I just got the touch |
| 01:40.13 | tmzt | sorry, I think you were talking about it |
| 01:40.20 | tmzt | getting one |
| 01:40.25 | high-rez | bah, pre, evil cdma2000 :| |
| 01:40.28 | tmzt | now I can't remeber |
| 01:40.38 | TheSarge | What's pre? |
| 01:40.49 | high-rez | shakes his head |
| 01:41.01 | tmzt | evdo, and very open if haven't seen the news |
| 01:41.10 | tmzt | Palm Pre on Sprint |
| 01:41.12 | tmzt | evdo |
| 01:41.36 | TheSarge | I got a 2g touch can't believe how far they have came with apps |
| 01:41.56 | high-rez | I'll like sprint and verizon when they get their LTE network up so that we are shackled by their locked down firmware. |
| 01:42.12 | high-rez | Until then, GSM > CDMA2000 |
| 01:42.17 | tmzt | firmware? |
| 01:42.25 | tmzt | you mean the esn/meid? |
| 01:42.26 | TheSarge | The 3rd gen is supposed to have wimax |
| 01:42.34 | AstainHellbring | high-rez sprint is wimax |
| 01:42.36 | tmzt | from Apple? |
| 01:42.38 | AstainHellbring | verizon is lte |
| 01:42.54 | TheSarge | Ya LOL apple and clear |
| 01:42.55 | tmzt | Sprint is WiMAX on some devices |
| 01:43.10 | AstainHellbring | sprint's 4g network is wimax |
| 01:43.16 | tmzt | I don't see that |
| 01:43.29 | AstainHellbring | its annouced everywhere tmzt |
| 01:43.35 | AstainHellbring | sprint has 0 plans for lte |
| 01:43.36 | TheSarge | 4g is wimax LOL |
| 01:43.44 | tmzt | the chipsets aren't there for WiMAX (or LTE) phones yet |
| 01:43.56 | TheSarge | Yes they are |
| 01:43.57 | AstainHellbring | yes there is tmzt |
| 01:44.03 | AstainHellbring | the htc max is wimax |
| 01:44.10 | AstainHellbring | actively used in russia |
| 01:44.29 | TheSarge | Verizon has 2 womax phones |
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| 01:44.30 | high-rez | AstainHellbring: lets talk about sprint and wimax in a couple of years. :) Theres not a good solution for handoff as I understand it... |
| 01:44.34 | tmzt | I mean they aren't ready for a transition yet |
| 01:44.52 | tmzt | what chipset supports gsm/cdma and lte/wimax now |
| 01:45.10 | high-rez | tmzt: they're out there. i know for fact... |
| 01:45.20 | tmzt | remeber the tri-mode analog devices? |
| 01:45.30 | high-rez | You mean like the GAIT devices ? |
| 01:45.45 | high-rez | Analog, TMDA, GSM ? :) |
| 01:45.53 | tmzt | GAIT? |
| 01:45.59 | rzk_ | here by wimax |
| 01:46.12 | tmzt | with a connection card? |
| 01:46.29 | rzk_ | usb-modem |
| 01:46.47 | high-rez | Wimax is ok for hooking laptops etc up. But it doesn't do well for voice... |
| 01:47.04 | tmzt | that's what I'm saying |
| 01:47.09 | tmzt | exactly |
| 01:47.33 | tmzt | I think lte will do better for cellular but I could be wrong |
| 01:47.41 | high-rez | Sprint *WILL* be LTE eventually. Their WiMax stuff is all bout saying "we're 4G first" - but its like deploying a wifi hotspot networking and makign that claim.. |
| 01:47.49 | high-rez | WiMax is not a true 4G network. |
| 01:47.57 | tmzt | on 2.5G |
| 01:48.00 | tmzt | ? |
| 01:48.04 | high-rez | Its a differnent /king/ of technology. |
| 01:49.20 | AstainHellbring | I just want LTE to be the same freqs in US and europe |
| 01:49.28 | tmzt | sorry, I mean 2.5Ghz, the allocation Sprint got for trading 800 |
| 01:49.35 | tmzt | or was that 2100 |
| 01:49.40 | tmzt | yes |
| 01:49.45 | tmzt | I would like that |
| 01:50.07 | high-rez | The problem is that some of the freqs used in europe are used for ISM in the states. |
| 01:50.11 | AstainHellbring | sick and tired of seeing phones released in europe that US carriers dont pick up and I can't get 3g here |
| 01:50.21 | rzk_ | AstainHellbring: wimax freq's of XOHM in USA is same to wimax freq's in Russia, intel i5350 chipset in notebooks is working everywhere. :) |
| 01:50.24 | tmzt | I don't use gsma's names anyway, caring what generation it is rather than technology |
| 01:50.30 | AstainHellbring | high-rez lte is on new specs |
| 01:50.47 | high-rez | What is it in europe ? |
| 01:51.03 | AstainHellbring | not sure what the freqs for lte is for europe yet |
| 01:51.11 | AstainHellbring | only thing I could find is vzw on 700mhz |
| 01:51.27 | tmzt | is that being tested now? |
| 01:51.50 | AstainHellbring | dunno on that but they did annouce it |
| 01:51.59 | high-rez | Yes |
| 01:52.03 | high-rez | Zerizon is testing. |
| 01:52.06 | high-rez | verizon |
| 01:53.09 | high-rez | They actually gave a speech to investors about it the other day... |
| 01:53.43 | tmzt | cool |
| 01:53.48 | tmzt | actual plans? |
| 01:53.57 | high-rez | Yeah |
| 01:54.15 | rzk_ | high-rez: you'v said about voice above on wimax, my wimax network will test ip-telephony on their htc device(quartz) - it will be server like - on htc there will be some soft that connects like skype, and servers in DC that adressing, no other way. |
| 01:54.16 | tmzt | that's what I'm saying, if the msm chipset after next supports it I'll blieve it's coming |
| 01:54.18 | AstainHellbring | high-rez know anything about att's implementation plans? |
| 01:54.20 | high-rez | They'll be turning up LTE on 6 sites in two markets by the end of the year... |
| 01:54.37 | high-rez | AstainHellbring: I know everything about AT&T's plans, but I'm not allowed to say. |
| 01:54.46 | AstainHellbring | damn it |
| 01:54.57 | rzk_ | insider? :) |
| 01:55.05 | AstainHellbring | what good does that do me? |
| 01:55.06 | TheSarge | I have owned 7 htc devices and honestly iPhone is just better |
| 01:55.16 | high-rez | rzk: yes |
| 01:55.24 | TheSarge | Even though I hate apple |
| 01:55.30 | high-rez | i work for mah bell ;) |
| 01:55.48 | AstainHellbring | TheSarge you're crazy |
| 01:55.49 | TheSarge | And hate on screen keyboards |
| 01:55.51 | AstainHellbring | iPhone is shit |
| 01:56.05 | AstainHellbring | slow as hell for multi tasking |
| 01:56.09 | tmzt | TheSarge: personally, I pretty much agree with that, but you're talking about iPhone OS vs. Windows Mobile |
| 01:56.11 | TheSarge | That's what I thought |
| 01:56.30 | high-rez | AstainHellbring: That said, it's pretty easy to speculate on how att will deploy based on the FCC bids they won a couple of years ago. |
| 01:56.41 | tmzt | seriously, if you're okay with Sprint look at the Pre |
| 01:56.45 | AstainHellbring | what ones did they win? |
| 01:56.50 | AstainHellbring | the pre is freaking cool |
| 01:57.00 | tmzt | national block? |
| 01:57.04 | TheSarge | But the is is unix based and the availible software is unmatched |
| 01:57.27 | TheSarge | Is = os |
| 01:57.31 | rzk_ | what bandwith we will have on "true not-wimax 4G" in couple of years? |
| 01:57.46 | TheSarge | Available* |
| 01:58.07 | TheSarge | 4g is wimax LOL |
| 01:58.11 | rzk_ | real banwith, wimax now giving me 3mbits |
| 01:58.13 | TheSarge | Period |
| 01:58.26 | tmzt | Pre is linux-based, actually OE-based, has root access, uses the omap3 cpu with builtin sgx 3d chip (like iPhone 3G) and the same chip used in the OpenPandora handheld game console |
| 01:58.44 | TheSarge | I get 5 on my home modem 3 on my laptop |
| 01:59.05 | high-rez | rzk: Is that ? to me ? From the trials that the vendors have done it's possible to stream a 1080P over LTE. |
| 01:59.15 | tmzt | 4g is the fourth generation of wireless technology |
| 01:59.27 | tmzt | WiMAX is one competing standard |
| 01:59.29 | rzk_ | 1080p wow 8) |
| 01:59.33 | rzk_ | cool |
| 01:59.42 | tmzt | h.264? |
| 01:59.47 | high-rez | the 1,2,3,4g technologies are so poorly defined. |
| 01:59.54 | tmzt | yes |
| 02:00.02 | high-rez | Yeah, I think the test that was done by ericsson (this is all public knowledge) were h264 1080p |
| 02:00.05 | tmzt | 1g is tdma or analog? |
| 02:00.06 | TheSarge | There is no other standards competing though |
| 02:00.32 | tmzt | Long Term Evolution and whatever Qualcomm had |
| 02:00.33 | high-rez | 1g is like CSD, 2G is GPRS, 2.5G is EDGE, 3G is UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA |
| 02:00.39 | tmzt | ok |
| 02:01.13 | rzk_ | TheSarge: on what chipset your modem is built? |
| 02:01.21 | tmzt | UWB? |
| 02:01.21 | TheSarge | I concider edge 2g so does the wireless industry |
| 02:01.25 | rzk_ | samsung c7* ? |
| 02:01.36 | TheSarge | Consider |
| 02:01.50 | TheSarge | rzk_: On what? |
| 02:01.52 | high-rez | TheSarge: thats funny the wireless industry I work in considers it 2.5G |
| 02:02.06 | high-rez | let me just call up my vendors and let them know :) |
| 02:02.17 | tmzt | edge and gprs class 10 are minor improvements but I guess it's the multichannel thing that made it 2.5G |
| 02:02.33 | tmzt | not speed |
| 02:02.33 | TheSarge | The one I work for (AT&T) largest in us doesn't |
| 02:02.40 | high-rez | What's your CUID ? |
| 02:02.49 | high-rez | ... |
| 02:03.18 | TheSarge | Im not a rep lmao |
| 02:03.26 | high-rez | You must like work for the SBC/BellSouth/Labs side or something ;) |
| 02:03.30 | tmzt | maybe not in marketing, but their also the "fastsst 3g" based on theoretical 7.2mbps |
| 02:03.45 | TheSarge | I work for the blue side |
| 02:03.45 | tmzt | CUID? |
| 02:04.14 | high-rez | at&t employee id. Cingular User ID. |
| 02:04.28 | TheSarge | Only for reps |
| 02:04.34 | high-rez | *blink* |
| 02:04.39 | high-rez | thats wrong. |
| 02:04.43 | tmzt | they also want to talk down what T-Mobile maxed out at for years (edge) |
| 02:04.51 | tmzt | ok |
| 02:04.58 | tmzt | me? |
| 02:05.00 | TheSarge | I had one when I worked in collections cse inbound |
| 02:05.10 | tmzt | I'm happy to be corrected |
| 02:05.19 | high-rez | no i mean to sarge |
| 02:05.20 | TheSarge | Not when I moved to it |
| 02:05.46 | TheSarge | Then I got a plain old employee id |
| 02:05.56 | high-rez | What domain do you login to? |
| 02:06.06 | TheSarge | Same as any sallaried employee |
| 02:06.10 | high-rez | Which is...? |
| 02:06.20 | high-rez | You can /msg it to me. |
| 02:06.59 | TheSarge | LOL im not violating company policy to prove a point to some rep |
| 02:07.24 | high-rez | Ok how about this - what manual actually defines compancy policy ? |
| 02:07.56 | high-rez | (it has a very specific name : -) |
| 02:08.14 | TheSarge | LOL it is completely different than call center stuff dude |
| 02:08.24 | TheSarge | IT |
| 02:09.20 | high-rez | Just out of curiosity - where are the mobility labs located at ? |
| 02:09.25 | TheSarge | I'll tell you my office is on 4th and market downtown Portland Oregon |
| 02:09.58 | TheSarge | I don't work with anything called a mobility lab LOL |
| 02:10.07 | TheSarge | You have some ego |
| 02:10.17 | high-rez | I just some how don't believe you work at att ;) |
| 02:10.36 | TheSarge | LOL good for you |
| 02:11.19 | TheSarge | I worked for art before the merge |
| 02:11.26 | high-rez | Advanced Radio Telecom ? |
| 02:11.33 | high-rez | In Bellevue ? |
| 02:11.34 | TheSarge | I had 18 logins at one time |
| 02:11.44 | TheSarge | AT&T |
| 02:12.06 | high-rez | So you worked for AT&T Wireless? |
| 02:12.12 | TheSarge | Sorry remember im on an itouch here |
| 02:12.32 | TheSarge | Still getting used to the keyboard |
| 02:12.33 | high-rez | Before they merged with Cingular ? |
| 02:12.39 | TheSarge | Yes |
| 02:12.44 | high-rez | Aha. What type of SIM do you have in that thing, a COU or an ERP ? |
| 02:13.11 | TheSarge | I worked in the special migration department as well |
| 02:13.31 | TheSarge | Some reps called it the blue line |
| 02:14.07 | TheSarge | An I touch isn't a phone therfor it has no sim |
| 02:14.38 | high-rez | sorry, i misread that. Surely you have a SIM though - is it COU or ERP ? :) |
| 02:14.41 | tmzt | and what are those? |
| 02:14.50 | tmzt | I'll wait |
| 02:15.30 | TheSarge | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.52 | high-rez | You hated the employee plan??? |
| 02:16.09 | high-rez | What was so bad about it? |
| 02:16.20 | TheSarge | Yes not like it was unlimited or anything |
| 02:16.27 | TheSarge | My carrier is |
| 02:16.35 | TheSarge | Everything is |
| 02:17.16 | TheSarge | I had 2 employee sims erp for about a month LOL |
| 02:17.43 | high-rez | So do you /still/ work at AT&T? |
| 02:18.06 | TheSarge | My name is rye phillips look me up if you have the resources |
| 02:18.11 | high-rez | Ok |
| 02:18.16 | high-rez | webphone ? |
| 02:18.29 | AstainHellbring | high-rez how about this, can you tell me anything about TP2 date for ATT? |
| 02:18.44 | TheSarge | I contract for them now not a direct employee anymore |
| 02:18.59 | high-rez | First name is rye ? |
| 02:19.06 | TheSarge | Tye |
| 02:19.25 | TheSarge | Portland office |
| 02:20.08 | TheSarge | LOL ok done proving myself to you now LOL |
| 02:20.44 | TheSarge | I just LOL,d way too much |
| 02:21.02 | AstainHellbring | how about you TheSarge any info on TP2 for att? |
| 02:21.05 | high-rez | You're in neither webphone nor outlook. |
| 02:21.33 | high-rez | No I can't tell you about devices we haven't announced. |
| 02:22.00 | AstainHellbring | damn it come on you can give rough date or something? |
| 02:22.00 | TheSarge | Im in the exchange server LOL now I know your full of it kid |
| 02:22.20 | TheSarge | He doesn't know anything |
| 02:23.13 | TheSarge | Do you know your EAR high-red? |
| 02:23.29 | TheSarge | high-rez: |
| 02:23.50 | high-rez | huh? |
| 02:24.15 | high-rez | I know all sorts of things about my ear. I know about both of them. |
| 02:24.45 | TheSarge | It's an acronmyn all AT&T reps know |
| 02:24.54 | high-rez | I'm not an AT&T rep |
| 02:25.33 | TheSarge | All AT&T employees anywhere near customer service |
| 02:25.47 | high-rez | I've never worked near customer service. |
| 02:25.56 | TheSarge | Especially us old blue guys |
| 02:26.56 | high-rez | you old blue sales people ? |
| 02:27.07 | TheSarge | I'll see if my old cuid is in an old email to humor you brb |
| 02:27.16 | TheSarge | Sales? |
| 02:27.31 | TheSarge | LOL never worked sales |
| 02:28.01 | TheSarge | I was on cse collections like I said |
| 02:28.21 | TheSarge | It was an inbound collections department |
| 02:28.51 | TheSarge | On the 6th floor of the Portland office |
| 02:28.56 | TheSarge | Brb |
| 02:33.16 | TheSarge | Mp2520@AT&T.com |
| 02:33.25 | TheSarge | That's my old email |
| 02:33.41 | TheSarge | Can't find the cuid |
| 02:34.32 | high-rez | Is that from the old AT&T Wireless ? |
| 02:34.38 | high-rez | Days. |
| 02:34.53 | TheSarge | Post merger |
| 02:35.56 | TheSarge | There was also Phillips.the@att.com |
| 02:36.03 | TheSarge | Be |
| 02:36.07 | TheSarge | Gr |
| 02:36.24 | TheSarge | I hate auto complete |
| 02:36.49 | TheSarge | Phillips.tye@att.com |
| 02:38.43 | tmzt | & is not a valid character in non idn domain names, I thinko only A-Za-z0-9 and - |
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| 02:38.57 | tmzt | that must be internal only or not dns |
| 02:39.02 | high-rez | not even internal |
| 02:39.20 | TheSarge | It's internal LOL |
| 02:39.39 | TheSarge | This guy is full of it |
| 02:40.08 | TheSarge | Doesn't even know ear |
| 02:40.21 | high-rez | perhaps thats cause I'm not in customer service. |
| 02:40.30 | tmzt | what's EAR? |
| 02:40.32 | TheSarge | Every employee learns that in training |
| 02:40.50 | high-rez | Do you really think every employee goes through some form of training ? |
| 02:41.02 | TheSarge | Empathize acknowlage reassure |
| 02:41.27 | high-rez | That sounds like something that would be taught to people who interface with customers.. |
| 02:41.41 | TheSarge | Even managment knew it in my building |
| 02:41.48 | tmzt | you need to do that to keep the phones happy |
| 02:41.54 | TheSarge | Knew it |
| 02:41.56 | tmzt | stroke the casings gently |
| 02:42.02 | TheSarge | LOL |
| 02:42.12 | tmzt | speak kindly into the microphone |
| 02:42.39 | TheSarge | Anyways ima finish watching knowing on here |
| 02:42.48 | TheSarge | See ya guys |
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| 09:59.17 | tmzt | hello |
| 09:59.33 | tmzt | nothing about rpc |
| 09:59.39 | tmzt | what else was it? |
| 10:00.52 | wooj | rawwwwrgh |
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| 11:07.09 | wooj | tmzt, do you know if sound works on DIAM500 yet? |
| 11:07.15 | wooj | i.e. for the making of calls? |
| 11:07.21 | tmzt | no |
| 11:07.28 | tmzt | doesn't work |
| 11:07.43 | wooj | curses. |
| 11:07.45 | wooj | weeps |
| 11:08.12 | wooj | On the plus side, I unlocked my phone and have flashed a custom ROM for now. It will entertain me for a bit ;) |
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| 17:57.27 | melgurth | anyone know how to fix kernel error "mmc0: host doesn't support card's voltages" google is unusefull :( |
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| 19:32.37 | high-rez | *yawn* |
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| 23:19.54 | domi007-htcuni | hi |
| 23:20.32 | domi007-htcuni | i am trying to compile the 2.6.26 kernel for my uni |
| 23:20.53 | domi007-htcuni | but i have problems with the htcuniversal.c |
| 23:21.04 | domi007-htcuni | it says |
| 23:22.21 | domi007-htcuni | htcuniversal.c:236: error: 'GPIO_ALT_FN1_IN' undeclared here (not in a function) |
| 23:22.34 | domi007-htcuni | i have no idea how to solve this...has anyone an idea? |
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| 23:34.49 | domi007-htcuni | it's really frustrating with this error... |
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