| 00:00.20 | tmzt | it might be helpful to respond to the thread talking about how similar/simple smd itself is, and how the soft irqs work |
| 00:00.35 | tmzt | similar to other msm devices |
| 00:00.46 | cr2 | is there an "accelerated" audio infrastructure in linux ? like DRI ? |
| 00:01.13 | tmzt | the higherlevel stuff might be an issue but the basics of smd and proc-comm should really be merged/updated |
| 00:01.19 | cr2 | smd depends on the smem layout |
| 00:01.26 | cr2 | which is done by oemsbl |
| 00:01.43 | cr2 | at least on g1 and raph100 the driver is generic enough. |
| 00:01.46 | tmzt | we also need to cleanup htc-fb or eliminate it if possible |
| 00:02.02 | tmzt | yeah, we should move the cdma stuff to pdata |
| 00:02.03 | cr2 | but on raph800 / vogue it is not so generic. |
| 00:02.44 | tmzt | again, something like .table-format could be used |
| 00:02.54 | cr2 | proc_comm is actually the PMIC "driver" |
| 00:03.00 | cr2 | so it's not msm-specific too. |
| 00:03.36 | tmzt | if it's NONE read the entries from smd-channel-data |
| 00:03.46 | tmzt | isn't pmic on sbi? |
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| 00:05.25 | tmzt | how is it not msm specific? or you mean the register structure is similar enough to other pmics that we should treat it like a hardware driver? |
| 00:05.36 | cr2 | disconnected ? |
| 00:05.42 | tmzt | yes |
| 00:05.52 | cr2 | [02:00] <cr2> is there an "accelerated" audio infrastructure in linux ? like DRI ? |
| 00:05.53 | cr2 | [02:01] <cr2> smd depends on the smem layout |
| 00:05.55 | cr2 | [02:01] <cr2> which is done by oemsbl |
| 00:05.56 | cr2 | [02:01] <cr2> at least on g1 and raph100 the driver is generic enough. |
| 00:05.58 | cr2 | [02:01] <cr2> but on raph800 / vogue it is not so generic. |
| 00:05.59 | cr2 | [02:02] <cr2> proc_comm is actually the PMIC "driver" |
| 00:06.01 | cr2 | [02:02] <cr2> so it's not msm-specific too. |
| 00:06.31 | cr2 | the only non-pmic part of proc_comm is gpio |
| 00:07.00 | tmzt | 5:38 < tmzt> we also need to cleanup htc-fb or |
| 00:07.00 | tmzt | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.00 | tmzt | 15:39 < tmzt> yeah, we should move the cdma stuff |
| 00:07.00 | tmzt | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.00 | tmzt | 15:39 < cr2> but on raph800 / vogue it is not so |
| 00:07.00 | cr2 | let's start pushing and bashing google with the gpio ALT patch :) |
| 00:07.02 | tmzt | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.05 | tmzt | 15:39 < tmzt> again, something like .table-format |
| 00:07.07 | tmzt | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.10 | tmzt | 15:40 < cr2> proc_comm is actually the PMIC |
| 00:07.12 | tmzt | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.15 | tmzt | 15:40 < cr2> so it's not msm-specific too. |
| 00:07.17 | tmzt | 15:40 < tmzt> if it's NONE read the entries from |
| 00:07.20 | tmzt | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.23 | tmzt | 15:42 < tmzt> how is it not msm specific? or you mean the register structure is similar enough to other pmics that we should treat it like a hardware |
| 00:07.26 | tmzt | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.28 | tmzt | 15:42 < cr2> disconnected ? |
| 00:07.31 | tmzt | 15:42 < tmzt> yes |
| 00:07.34 | cr2 | ok |
| 00:07.53 | cr2 | i see it throught the Lag value |
| 00:08.03 | cr2 | got 130 sec before ;) |
| 00:08.28 | cr2 | proc_comm mainly talks to pmic. |
| 00:08.41 | cr2 | and there are several msm pmic chips |
| 00:08.58 | cr2 | the DEX/proc_comm may be a good abstraction |
| 00:09.16 | tmzt | yeah |
| 00:09.21 | cr2 | why did they add gpio to proc_comm is unclear to me |
| 00:09.38 | cr2 | even htc has an rpc for gpio control |
| 00:09.40 | tmzt | based on what viperbjk said I think all of smem is just ram, no mmio at all |
| 00:09.59 | tmzt | the rtos picks up changes and makes the low-level change |
| 00:10.00 | cr2 | if they do not want to manipulate arm9 gpios directly. |
| 00:10.21 | cr2 | smem is ram. DPRAM if you'd lkike |
| 00:10.51 | tmzt | or csmi on omap |
| 00:10.58 | cr2 | but all out wince htc phones manipulate arm9 gpios directly. |
| 00:11.18 | tmzt | the thread also mentioned dsp stuff is a more traditional mailbox implementation |
| 00:11.29 | tmzt | and that smd is 8k queues |
| 00:11.40 | cr2 | yes |
| 00:12.00 | cr2 | but you need to adapt to the specific sram layout. |
| 00:12.24 | tmzt | how extacly? |
| 00:12.30 | cr2 | not alwaays 8k |
| 00:12.49 | cr2 | can be 512byte |
| 00:12.52 | tmzt | that was from swetland on the thread |
| 00:12.55 | cr2 | vogue/raph800 |
| 00:13.01 | tmzt | ah |
| 00:13.03 | tmzt | ok |
| 00:13.06 | cr2 | yes, on g1 and raph100 it's 8k |
| 00:13.27 | tmzt | what's 512 on cdma? |
| 00:13.27 | cr2 | and the sram layout is the same. |
| 00:13.37 | cr2 | so g1 smd works on raph100 as is |
| 00:13.50 | cr2 | AT and DATA |
| 00:13.51 | tmzt | the table is also not complete on there |
| 00:14.15 | tmzt | the multiple DATA channels? |
| 00:14.16 | cr2 | with the stream patch, though (g1=raph100+stream patch) |
| 00:14.35 | tmzt | stream patch? |
| 00:14.48 | cr2 | which channel is packet and which is stream |
| 00:15.06 | cr2 | it seems that the packet channel is a g1 innovation. |
| 00:15.11 | cr2 | maybe because of the qmi |
| 00:16.15 | cr2 | imho google should do a major cleanup of their code |
| 00:16.45 | cr2 | because they created a real PITA with it even for raph100 which is very similar to g1 |
| 00:17.46 | cr2 | whether they really want to do it, is another issue |
| 00:19.00 | tmzt | ah |
| 00:19.02 | cr2 | if i was an arm maintainer, i will not accept the current arch-msm for a lot of reasons. |
| 00:19.08 | tmzt | yeah qmi makes sense |
| 00:19.22 | tmzt | for them, I wish it did for us |
| 00:20.42 | cr2 | we know the most pitfalls now, but it is still not clear how to cleanup this mess |
| 00:21.51 | cr2 | i have applied the bt power+reset |
| 00:22.13 | cr2 | now the kernel freezes on stty -F /dev/ttyHS1 |
| 00:22.27 | cr2 | it must be DMOV-related |
| 00:22.31 | tmzt | hard to debug? |
| 00:22.46 | cr2 | i dont' see the oops on the LCD |
| 00:22.50 | cr2 | and usb is dead |
| 00:22.58 | cr2 | i can ping raph, though |
| 00:22.59 | tmzt | serial :) |
| 00:23.07 | cr2 | yeah, soldering |
| 00:23.16 | tmzt | don't you have a cable for one of the other projects? |
| 00:23.21 | cr2 | or redirecting thr console to tty0 |
| 00:23.39 | cr2 | no, i need to solder the docking station |
| 00:23.43 | cr2 | hmm. |
| 00:23.44 | tmzt | do you have the update thread enabled? |
| 00:23.59 | cr2 | we may try to resolve these fb problems too |
| 00:24.33 | cr2 | i have the standard kernel from git |
| 00:24.47 | tmzt | enable update |
| 00:25.00 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:25.05 | tmzt | when I disabled it I stopped getting oops |
| 00:25.17 | tmzt | do you have init code now? |
| 00:25.32 | cr2 | which init ? |
| 00:25.40 | tmzt | we don't need more feedback than vibra anyway |
| 00:25.40 | cr2 | add everything to git |
| 00:25.44 | tmzt | lcd init |
| 00:26.02 | cr2 | we have a separate setup for android, so we can do clean things for normal kernel |
| 00:26.21 | cr2 | no. lcd init needs power gpios |
| 00:26.50 | cr2 | and on epson* lcds it needs the SPI codes |
| 00:26.51 | tmzt | can we trace those on screen off/on? |
| 00:27.04 | cr2 | which ones ? |
| 00:27.13 | tmzt | gpios |
| 00:27.21 | cr2 | they are known. |
| 00:27.25 | tmzt | short press power button |
| 00:27.34 | tmzt | why don't they work then? |
| 00:27.43 | cr2 | 'setlcd 4' in haret |
| 00:27.48 | tmzt | and mddi writes? |
| 00:27.55 | cr2 | because we have not added them |
| 00:28.04 | cr2 | mddi is ok |
| 00:28.11 | cr2 | well. |
| 00:28.15 | tmzt | we need it for xip/mtd anyway |
| 00:28.30 | tmzt | mddi writes to init lcd from the client chip |
| 00:28.38 | cr2 | i have documented what wince does for mddi setup. g1 is a bit diufferent |
| 00:28.45 | cr2 | but it still works. |
| 00:29.12 | cr2 | not mddi itself, but the spi to the panel |
| 00:30.34 | tmzt | spi direct to panel? |
| 00:30.51 | cr2 | btw, i got another oops in the bt shutdown code, which i don't understand |
| 00:30.52 | cr2 | yes. |
| 00:31.03 | tmzt | if we had client drivers with correct register names |
| 00:31.19 | cr2 | no |
| 00:31.41 | tmzt | ok, so that's not client at all, that's traditional tft module |
| 00:31.44 | cr2 | you just need to query the LCD type over epson/toshiba gpios |
| 00:32.02 | cr2 | and send the right spi sequences |
| 00:32.15 | tmzt | I mean instead of magic handshake sequences like on trout |
| 00:32.17 | cr2 | instead of the g1 sequences |
| 00:32.57 | cr2 | they are not documented (afaik) but it's known where to pick them. |
| 00:33.36 | AstainHellbring | wow I walk away and miss a ton of stuff here |
| 00:34.21 | tmzt | logs are good |
| 00:34.26 | AstainHellbring | yep thats for sure |
| 00:34.49 | tmzt | do we know what lcm is used? |
| 00:35.01 | tmzt | we know cdma is different for some reason |
| 00:36.00 | tmzt | we could find out from viperbjk on diam100 |
| 00:37.01 | cr2 | yes , there are several lcdm used |
| 00:37.11 | cr2 | just need to be documented. |
| 00:38.22 | tmzt | there are usually datasheets for those, if we treat mddi client like any other lcdc we can ignore it I think |
| 00:38.55 | tmzt | but at least we would know what spi commands do |
| 00:39.09 | cr2 | hmm. i doubt that you'll get the lcm datasheet |
| 00:39.15 | tmzt | maybe find a secret 18bit mode on cdma |
| 00:39.19 | tmzt | why? |
| 00:39.28 | tmzt | you think mddi is part of it? |
| 00:39.30 | cr2 | even the moko phone does not have it |
| 00:39.36 | cr2 | no, the spi |
| 00:39.39 | tmzt | oh |
| 00:39.50 | cr2 | the same magic spi sequences only. |
| 00:40.15 | tmzt | ok |
| 00:40.17 | cr2 | i'd prefer a secret 565 mode on raph100 |
| 00:40.25 | tmzt | yeah |
| 00:40.31 | tmzt | at least for X |
| 00:40.42 | cr2 | yes |
| 00:40.57 | tmzt | oh, Pre uses a similar screen flipping system to android |
| 00:41.18 | tmzt | vyres*4 and "standard" ioctl |
| 00:41.20 | cr2 | Pre ? |
| 00:41.26 | tmzt | Palm Pre |
| 00:41.41 | cr2 | which cpu is that ? |
| 00:41.49 | tmzt | CDMA phone built on omap3410 |
| 00:41.58 | tmzt | with msm6800 baseband |
| 00:42.00 | cr2 | omap3. ok |
| 00:42.03 | tmzt | came with root |
| 00:42.23 | cr2 | msm is on dpram ? |
| 00:42.38 | tmzt | through a simple code and complex usb multiplexer process |
| 00:42.46 | cr2 | or usb like on universal and hermes ? |
| 00:42.51 | tmzt | don't know yet, I think usb host |
| 00:43.08 | tmzt | maybe with some handshaking or wakeup gpios |
| 00:43.08 | cr2 | ok, so it'S like uni/herm |
| 00:43.29 | tmzt | I've been asking for lsusb -v -v in #webos-internals for 3 days |
| 00:43.44 | tmzt | cat ~roc/interrupts would be useful as well |
| 00:43.46 | cr2 | hehe |
| 00:43.50 | cr2 | dmesg ? |
| 00:44.04 | tmzt | no, I have .config though |
| 00:44.42 | cr2 | i don't know omap3 internals |
| 00:44.45 | tmzt | they have a wiki now |
| 00:45.15 | tmzt | I guess it's webos-internals.org |
| 00:45.21 | tmzt | or webos-dev.org |
| 00:45.26 | cr2 | ok, but it's not something new. |
| 00:45.34 | tmzt | yeah |
| 00:45.43 | tmzt | and not msm for ap |
| 00:46.01 | tmzt | but we knew that a year ago |
| 00:46.03 | cr2 | the same on athena |
| 00:46.26 | cr2 | pxa270+msm6275 |
| 00:46.29 | cr2 | of hermes |
| 00:46.37 | cr2 | s3c2442+msm6275 |
| 00:47.10 | tmzt | anyway, brought that up because there is some work for dri on arm which would benefit us and omap3 |
| 00:47.21 | tmzt | even for the offscreen buffers support |
| 00:47.25 | cr2 | ok |
| 00:47.30 | tmzt | and 3d later |
| 00:47.49 | tmzt | drm |
| 00:47.50 | cr2 | well, we need to make sound work :) |
| 00:47.54 | tmzt | not dri |
| 00:47.56 | tmzt | yes |
| 00:48.15 | cr2 | i'm also thinking about gps |
| 00:48.19 | tmzt | do you think tracing ioctls on g1 will help? |
| 00:48.42 | cr2 | since rpc is working now, even for adsp, it should be possible |
| 00:49.09 | cr2 | yes, if you can trace the libgps.so calls |
| 00:49.09 | tmzt | haven't got rpc to really work |
| 00:49.15 | cr2 | it's thumb code there ;) |
| 00:49.33 | tmzt | the problem on android is everything is in a few processes |
| 00:49.39 | cr2 | but i'd like to see the smem dump first |
| 00:49.44 | tmzt | hard to strace |
| 00:49.56 | tmzt | can we fix /dev/mem? |
| 00:50.16 | cr2 | my battery comes close to its end ;) |
| 00:50.20 | tmzt | we should be able to open pmem by removing a few checks |
| 00:50.21 | cr2 | fix ? |
| 00:50.42 | tmzt | is it just disabled? |
| 00:50.50 | cr2 | just enable it in .config |
| 00:50.58 | tmzt | AstainHellbring: did you get /dev/mem working? |
| 00:51.02 | cr2 | yes, even on raph in the current git |
| 00:51.08 | AstainHellbring | not yet tmzt |
| 00:51.29 | cr2 | AstainHellbring: does gps work for you on g1 ? |
| 00:51.33 | tmzt | we can add printks's to ioctls as well |
| 00:52.02 | cr2 | tmzt: where do you see gps ioctls ith source code ? |
| 00:52.18 | tmzt | I don't? |
| 00:52.36 | cr2 | the function names are more or less the same as on wince. |
| 00:52.52 | cr2 | somehow i think that it's easier to do it on wince |
| 00:52.55 | tmzt | L mean generally for tracing closed libraries on android |
| 00:53.34 | cr2 | wince driver is more readable than this thumb mess on g1 |
| 00:54.05 | cr2 | the rpcs are already in wiki |
| 00:54.28 | cr2 | init+register some clients+pdsm_get_position |
| 00:54.38 | tmzt | I don't see anything related to msm in git grep gps |
| 00:54.39 | cr2 | with 28 params ;) |
| 00:54.51 | cr2 | libgps.so is closed source. |
| 00:55.01 | cr2 | which program uses libgps.so ? |
| 00:55.20 | tmzt | g1 uses nmea doesn't it? |
| 00:55.29 | cr2 | +rpc |
| 00:55.36 | cr2 | the same as raph100 |
| 00:55.38 | tmzt | I think thatqs for updating/saving ephemeris for fast start |
| 00:55.59 | cr2 | not only i think |
| 00:56.50 | tmzt | target/product/sdk gpstest |
| 00:56.54 | cr2 | raph100 has nmea in smd27 and sends several rpcs |
| 00:57.04 | cr2 | i think the same is true for g1 |
| 00:57.29 | cr2 | raph800 is more complex., because it does not have nmea smd27 |
| 00:57.51 | cr2 | sdk gpstest ? |
| 00:57.59 | cr2 | can you like the source ? |
| 00:58.06 | tmzt | interesting, GPS-STATUS |
| 00:58.10 | tmzt | NONE |
| 00:58.17 | tmzt | SESSION BEGIN |
| 00:58.18 | cr2 | debian says i have 30min left. |
| 00:58.23 | tmzt | SESSION END |
| 00:58.26 | cr2 | but it guess less |
| 00:58.29 | tmzt | ENGINE ON |
| 00:58.34 | tmzt | ENGINE OFF |
| 00:59.20 | cr2 | link ? |
| 00:59.22 | tmzt | .. |
| 00:59.35 | tmzt | in repo, libhardware-legacy |
| 00:59.37 | AstainHellbring | cr2 yes gps works on g1 |
| 00:59.46 | cr2 | ok |
| 01:00.12 | cr2 | tmzt: we may grab the libgps.so, but it's not my method ;) |
| 01:00.17 | tmzt | cat /dev/smd27? |
| 01:00.45 | tmzt | GPS STATUS |
| 01:00.52 | tmzt | sorry |
| 01:00.53 | cr2 | hangs without any updates |
| 01:01.00 | tmzt | GPS POSITION |
| 01:01.16 | tmzt | MODE STANDALONE |
| 01:01.37 | tmzt | MODE MS BASED (SUPL MS-Based Mode) |
| 01:01.52 | cr2 | yes, you send the pdsm_get_position() rpc, and (probably) get a nmea sentence(s) in smd27 |
| 01:02.18 | tmzt | MODE MS ASSISTED (SUPL MS-Assisted mode) |
| 01:02.56 | cr2 | tmzt: PA and PD ? |
| 01:03.42 | tmzt | how many fields from rpc? |
| 01:03.48 | tmzt | flags |
| 01:03.52 | tmzt | double lat |
| 01:03.57 | tmzt | double long |
| 01:04.02 | tmzt | double alt |
| 01:04.04 | cr2 | tmzt: check the MSM_RPC wiki page |
| 01:04.13 | tmzt | float speed |
| 01:04.14 | cr2 | 28 |
| 01:04.20 | tmzt | float bearing |
| 01:04.25 | tmzt | float accuracy |
| 01:04.30 | tmzt | timestamp |
| 01:04.33 | tmzt | ah |
| 01:04.37 | tmzt | more then |
| 01:04.54 | cr2 | double/float need some encoding |
| 01:05.07 | cr2 | we don't have cpu fp support |
| 01:05.07 | tmzt | requested frequency of fixes in seconds |
| 01:05.27 | cr2 | =2 in wince |
| 01:05.44 | tmzt | right |
| 01:05.57 | tmzt | this is c code from android |
| 01:05.57 | cr2 | 1 per 2 seconds |
| 01:06.09 | cr2 | link ? |
| 01:06.16 | tmzt | it says you can set frquency, 0 to get a single fix |
| 01:06.16 | cr2 | i have 5 min left :) |
| 01:06.19 | tmzt | repo |
| 01:06.26 | tmzt | I have it offline |
| 01:06.33 | cr2 | direkt link please :) |
| 01:07.22 | tmzt | libhardware-legacy.git |
| 01:07.36 | tmzt | hardware/libhardwanre-legacy.git |
| 01:08.52 | tmzt | http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/hardware/libhardware_legacy.git;a=summary |
| 01:08.52 | cr2 | found |
| 01:09.09 | tmzt | there's a 7k hardware git also, didn't know that |
| 01:09.13 | tmzt | or forgot |
| 01:09.34 | cr2 | gps_qemu.c ? |
| 01:10.11 | cr2 | gpsd reimplementation |
| 01:11.04 | tmzt | http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/hardware/msm7k.git;a=blob;f=libaudio/AudioHardware.cpp;h=b8b8566aacabacd0230739cb342db5e8a6ffc47e;hb=donut |
| 01:11.15 | tmzt | yeah |
| 01:12.00 | tmzt | that's all there is, the rest is in libgps.so |
| 01:12.08 | cr2 | hehe |
| 01:12.19 | cr2 | where did you get these strings ? |
| 01:12.55 | tmzt | include/gps.h |
| 01:13.10 | tmzt | include/hardware-legacy |
| 01:13.37 | cr2 | do we have /dev/msm_snd ? |
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| 10:59.10 | tmzt | http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/851842 |
| 10:59.23 | tmzt | gpio-alt-func in gpiolib |
| 11:01.40 | kri5 | hello there |
| 11:02.25 | kri5 | does anyone is working on "android revival project" for htc blackstone support? |
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| 11:05.25 | tmzt | revival? |
| 11:06.27 | tmzt | we are working on rpc for sound, audio routing, gps, replacing the initial console with proper lcd init, integrating upstream work, etc. |
| 11:06.41 | tmzt | not sure how that applies to blak at the moment |
| 11:07.04 | tmzt | but without it supporting all A devices including new ones will be much harder |
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| 11:24.15 | kri5 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524898 |
| 11:24.35 | kri5 | developement for blackstone seemed to be stopped |
| 11:24.43 | kri5 | so tuxhero initiated this |
| 11:25.03 | kri5 | i'd like to know if there were people working on this :) |
| 11:25.23 | tmzt | > + clk_enable(msm_port->clk); |
| 11:25.23 | tmzt | > + |
| 11:25.23 | tmzt | > + msm_write(port, 0xC0, UART_MREG); |
| 11:25.23 | tmzt | > + msm_write(port, 0xB2, UART_NREG); |
| 11:25.24 | tmzt | > + msm_write(port, 0x7D, UART_DREG); |
| 11:25.27 | tmzt | > + msm_write(port, 0x1C, UART_MNDREG); |
| 11:25.42 | tmzt | cr2: this is in proposed upstream patch |
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| 11:27.47 | kri5 | tmzt: otherwise, can you indicate me where i can found some resources/tutorials/docs on how does the linux kernel works for embedded devices |
| 11:27.52 | kri5 | i'd like to participate |
| 11:28.02 | kri5 | i have skills on many languages |
| 11:28.30 | kri5 | but i just don't know anything on kernel drivers devel |
| 11:28.43 | kri5 | and less on embedded |
| 11:33.22 | tmzt | I would suggest reading code |
| 11:33.45 | tmzt | what driver are you looking to implement |
| 11:36.26 | Elleo | is HaRET's CRC reliable when performing a ramboot as well as a boot? |
| 11:37.14 | Elleo | as it fail's when I use boot, but the kernel passes when doing a ramboot (tags still fail though) |
| 11:38.39 | kri5 | tmzt: i don't care, where do you need help :) |
| 11:38.41 | kri5 | ? |
| 11:39.28 | tmzt | Elleo: ramboot is for build a .exe wit kernel/initrd built in |
| 11:39.46 | tmzt | kri5: well, mostly research right now |
| 11:39.59 | Elleo | ah, so ramboot doesn't use the supplied zImage at all |
| 11:40.22 | tmzt | there aren't too many actual drivers that need written |
| 11:40.47 | tmzt | look at the tree, the files in arch/arm/mach-msm |
| 11:40.54 | tmzt | Elleo: no |
| 11:41.15 | Elleo | okay, thanks |
| 11:41.17 | tmzt | Elleo: what device/what are you trying to do? |
| 11:41.36 | Elleo | tmzt: Acer m900, trying to add support for it |
| 11:42.13 | kri5 | tmzt: ok i'll take a look |
| 11:42.15 | tmzt | ok |
| 11:42.22 | tmzt | acer? |
| 11:42.29 | tmzt | not eten |
| 11:42.31 | Elleo | tmzt: well, e-ten really |
| 11:42.37 | Elleo | but e-ten were bought by acer a while back |
| 11:42.41 | Elleo | so it's branded as being acer now |
| 11:42.49 | tmzt | same as glofiish? |
| 11:42.55 | Elleo | yeah |
| 11:43.08 | Elleo | it's the next model on from the m800 |
| 11:43.23 | tmzt | talk to stefen_schmidt when he's here |
| 11:43.43 | tmzt | how far have you got? |
| 11:44.15 | Elleo | well I can get to the point where HaRET should hand off to the kernel |
| 11:44.20 | Elleo | but the kernel seems to be getting corrupted |
| 11:44.37 | Elleo | however I'm having trouble a bit before that shutting down all the DMA controllers |
| 11:44.56 | tmzt | you can't boot at all? |
| 11:45.19 | Elleo | if I try and shutdown the last 2 controllers (out of 4) the system just hangs; but it sounds like I need to do something extra with those as they're secure DMA controllers |
| 11:45.24 | Elleo | nope |
| 11:45.29 | tmzt | is fbduringboot enabled? |
| 11:45.42 | tmzt | how do you know it hangs? |
| 11:45.48 | tmzt | after go go go? |
| 11:46.02 | Elleo | yeah I get output from HaRET in the frame buffer |
| 11:46.33 | tmzt | how do you know it's crc though, it could be something kernel |
| 11:46.44 | tmzt | what display driver does it use? |
| 11:46.54 | Elleo | it never really starts the kernel |
| 11:47.05 | Elleo | at least I never get any output from earlyprintk or anything |
| 11:47.09 | tmzt | how do you know that? |
| 11:47.11 | Elleo | and it fails HaRET's CRC check |
| 11:47.18 | tmzt | you have serial? |
| 11:47.23 | Elleo | which would seem to suggest it's getting corrupted |
| 11:47.38 | tmzt | what message do you get about crc? |
| 11:47.39 | kri5 | tmzt: for now, you're mostly trying to find out how the hardware works? |
| 11:47.52 | tmzt | yes |
| 11:48.20 | Elleo | tmzt: "Checking tags CRC...FAIL FAIL FAIL" "Checking kernel CRC...FAIL FAIL FAIL" |
| 11:48.26 | tmzt | but like I've said, I don't really know much about blak, it's state, etc. |
| 11:48.34 | tmzt | huh |
| 11:48.48 | tmzt | talk to Kevin2 is all I can really say |
| 11:48.52 | Elleo | but I'm wondering if it's down to a couple of the DMA controllers still being active and possible doing nasty things to the memory |
| 11:49.05 | tmzt | does it get to go go go without that enabled? |
| 11:49.20 | Elleo | tmzt: it gets beyond Go go go, this is after that |
| 11:49.33 | Elleo | it creates the checksum before go go go, then tests it after |
| 11:49.35 | tmzt | there is nothing after that |
| 11:49.53 | Elleo | tmzt: on the framebuffer there is |
| 11:49.54 | tmzt | look at haret code |
| 11:50.03 | tmzt | there is what? |
| 11:50.09 | Elleo | haret does Go Go Go, then it does the machine specific shutdown stuff |
| 11:50.17 | Elleo | then it does the mmu trampoline |
| 11:50.22 | Elleo | and crc check |
| 11:50.28 | Elleo | and then tries to hand off to the kernel |
| 11:50.28 | tmzt | sorry, it says "at this point we are no longer running" in the code |
| 11:50.46 | tmzt | ok, what cpu and video? |
| 11:51.06 | Elleo | it's a samsung s3c6410 |
| 11:51.23 | tmzt | buitl in video? |
| 11:51.28 | Elleo | yeah |
| 11:51.34 | tmzt | ok |
| 11:51.49 | tmzt | Kevin2: ping |
| 11:54.43 | tmzt | see if he can help you when he gets here |
| 11:54.48 | Elleo | thanks :) |
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| 13:55.33 | xsacha | hey guys |
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| 18:09.34 | high-rez | Anyone here tried to boot up the linux kernel on a rhodium? Anything I should be aware of when trying? :) |
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| 18:38.50 | dcordes-kais | high-rez you can try the latest raphael zImage |
| 18:39.05 | dcordes-kais | high-rez do you have cdma or gsm unit? |
| 18:40.23 | AstainHellbring | hiya dcordes-kais |
| 18:40.35 | dcordes-kais | hiya |
| 18:40.55 | AstainHellbring | whats new in the latest raph zimage? |
| 18:41.09 | dcordes-kais | somebody know how much current a typical 5400rpm 2,5" hdd pulls? |
| 18:41.55 | dcordes-kais | AstainHellbring dunno, check htc-msm-2.6.27 git log. high-rez wants to boot linux on rhodijum |
| 18:43.07 | AstainHellbring | ahh ic |
| 18:57.43 | dcordes-kais | AstainHellbring do you have the rhodium too? |
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| 19:01.36 | pH5 | dcordes-kais: my old pata 5400rpm travelstar says 5V 1A on its top, I guess current models don't need as much |
| 19:05.56 | AstainHellbring | dcordes-kais no not yet |
| 19:06.09 | AstainHellbring | waiting for one with US 3g |
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| 19:23.44 | BabelO | ~x de fr verstecken, unterdrücken |
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| 19:50.25 | dcordes | BabelO: if you need translation help just ping |
| 19:51.03 | BabelO | dcordes : thanks, it is just a bot testing, have to ask Timriker :) |
| 19:51.15 | dcordes | heh ok |
| 19:51.28 | dcordes | how are the planes/helis ? |
| 19:53.05 | dcordes | pH5: thanks. my new samsung says 0,85A . I was just wondering if I bought the wrong voltage regulator |
| 19:56.39 | dcordes | it's amazing, I thought they were pulling like 2A minimum |
| 19:58.25 | pH5 | dcordes: still, too much to power them from the phone usb port directly :) |
| 19:59.40 | dcordes | it's for a DVR |
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| 20:01.35 | pH5 | I'd want my phone to be the DVR. |
| 20:01.50 | BabelO | dcordes i broke heli :) but i already built it again :) |
| 20:02.03 | pH5 | wonders how long until phones with micro hdmi or displaylink outputs appear |
| 20:02.31 | BabelO | pH5: for you -> http://www.wowwee.com/en/products/tech/projection/cinemin/swivel |
| 20:03.17 | BabelO | i like rovio too :) |
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| 20:03.49 | high-rez | Hey guys, on my Raphael - the kernel stops booting at "handover: boot [htc_fb-1] -> real [tty0]" - any idea what I'm doing wrong here ? |
| 20:04.48 | Squarc | high-rez: I have that also sometimes |
| 20:04.59 | Squarc | high-rez: but not always.. |
| 20:05.03 | pH5 | is susceptible to rainbow effect. do pico dlps suffer from that? |
| 20:05.58 | high-rez | Squarc: One the kernel I built recently it always happens. On an older kenel it only happens some times... It appears there have been a number of advancements in the newer kernel. |
| 20:06.32 | Squarc | could it be some kind of interrupt/timing problem ? |
| 20:06.54 | high-rez | I got into a really weird menu while playing with this thing yesterday. I think it was an engineering menu. I had rgb gradients and said "device unlocked" and at the bottom "serial port enabled". |
| 20:07.15 | high-rez | Squarc: Mind if I msg you ? |
| 20:07.21 | Squarc | nope, not at all |
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| 20:11.58 | dcordes | pH5: nvidia makes new arm platform which is powerful enough for 1080p hd support |
| 20:12.12 | miknix | is someone using htc-flasher? |
| 20:12.28 | dcordes | but I don't know if the market likes handset with hdmi output yet |
| 20:14.33 | pH5 | dcordes: maybe not, but it's a pity. with hdmi a reasonably fast phone would become a complete desktop computer replacement. |
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| 20:26.46 | dcordes | miknix: I used it few times |
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| 20:27.07 | dcordes | pH5: true, you can use raphael tv out though :) |
| 20:27.10 | miknix | dcordes, it doesnt seem to work with the wizard |
| 20:27.23 | miknix | wizard uses old nbh roms |
| 20:27.30 | miknix | s/nbh/nbf/ |
| 20:28.11 | dcordes | miknix: do you use latest version? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2301259&postcount=25 |
| 20:28.36 | miknix | yes, right from svn |
| 20:28.47 | dcordes | then it seems like he didn't |
| 20:29.25 | miknix | I'm going to copy the rom into the SD |
| 20:29.42 | miknix | and mess with the bootloader commands to see if I can flash it |
| 20:31.33 | dcordes | ok |
| 20:31.53 | dcordes | miknix: does frameworkd work on wiz? |
| 20:32.05 | tmzt | it's on giz-e17 |
| 20:32.30 | dcordes | so I assume it works well? |
| 20:32.34 | miknix | it does |
| 20:32.42 | dcordes | cool |
| 20:32.50 | dcordes | did you have to patch heavily? |
| 20:33.18 | miknix | the ebuild is from a gentoo overlay |
| 20:33.34 | tmzt | is it working on wizard then, ogsmd? |
| 20:33.57 | dcordes | I mean did you have to patch the frameworkd in order to operate on wizard? or does single line modem type work? |
| 20:34.05 | miknix | wait a sec |
| 20:34.11 | miknix | e17 does work on wiz |
| 20:34.18 | high-rez | tmzt: I'm here as well... I've got a raphael, rhodium, several others. |
| 20:34.57 | miknix | the phone framwork is in the image but I never tried it |
| 20:38.28 | miknix | Cmd>? |
| 20:38.28 | miknix | Please see XDA-Developers wiki for the list of available commands |
| 20:38.28 | miknix | http://wiki.xda-developers.com |
| 20:38.30 | miknix | great |
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| 21:07.05 | WigglerAway_ | Can someone help me understand the ram organisation on the raphael. Haret states wince reports 208MB. Device is advertised with 288MB I believe 32MB is a SMI with the ARM9. device-htcraphael.h states 89MB RAM, Kernel is parsed with mem=76MB. What's going on here? |
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