| 00:00.43 | the_sys0p | Does anyone know when the Touch Pro 2 will be out in North America? |
| 00:01.25 | the_sys0p | Or has the date not been announced yet? (That seems to be the only info I can find, but the articles seem old) |
| 00:02.13 | tmzt | I think all we know is there will be two versions of it, one with msm7225 and the other msm76xx something |
| 00:02.49 | tmzt | it would be good to get raphxxxx supported before that though so it doesn't become another vogue/kaiser (without dzo of course) |
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| 06:04.48 | superthebob | hey, all... I'm looking to install linux on my pda for the first time. any pointers and help would be appreciated |
| 06:06.29 | superthebob | I don't know what kind of info I need to provide, but I will get it... |
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| 06:33.48 | tsdogs | superthebob: it's a bit early for this channel (usually evenings in UTC time) |
| 06:34.15 | tsdogs | The best is to start at wiki.xda-developers.com if you have an HTC phone |
| 06:34.16 | superthebob | gotcha. maybe I'll hit it up later tonight |
| 06:34.25 | superthebob | yeah, I found that page.... |
| 06:34.40 | tsdogs | check the model and see if there is already a running kernel |
| 06:34.57 | tsdogs | if so then u can start playing with your phone. |
| 06:35.04 | tsdogs | superthebob: what model? |
| 06:35.25 | superthebob | htc harrier ... ppc6600 |
| 06:37.09 | tsdogs | hmm, well BA is supported pretty well, no idea about it's CDMA version. |
| 06:37.23 | superthebob | well, I actually found this page: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelKernel |
| 06:37.39 | superthebob | and I downloaded all the files there, put them on an SD card... |
| 06:37.53 | superthebob | and just now I clicked on the .exe file just to see what happened... |
| 06:38.19 | superthebob | and it seems to have booted up to the point that it said it would ... to the portmap part |
| 06:38.28 | superthebob | now I can't figure out what to do :) |
| 06:38.33 | superthebob | * :( |
| 06:39.16 | tsdogs | lol |
| 06:39.34 | tsdogs | imho you have a console image or even an initrd one. |
| 06:39.37 | tsdogs | http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/ |
| 06:39.47 | tsdogs | this is a bit old but it's a start |
| 06:40.17 | tsdogs | wait a sec. I had some more recent links somewhere, looking |
| 06:41.11 | superthebob | yeah, initrd |
| 06:41.11 | superthebob | I would really like to get opie on it... that would be cool... |
| 06:42.31 | tsdogs | well, opie should be supported, though I have no idea on how it's state is. |
| 06:42.50 | tsdogs | if you plan to build something for it, OE / Angstrom is the way to go |
| 06:43.08 | tsdogs | they do have opie-image (it takes a whole day to build though :) |
| 06:43.20 | superthebob | mostly just to play with at this point... eventually build ... |
| 06:43.37 | superthebob | how about familiar? I didn't see this phone supported, though |
| 06:44.36 | tsdogs | this might also be of some help http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngelHowtoInstallLinux |
| 06:44.45 | superthebob | well, actually, you know better than me... I just want something to play with that is functional, and maybe cool looking |
| 06:44.58 | tsdogs | well familiar is the base system, an imho is deprecated for BA |
| 06:45.06 | tsdogs | angstrom is the way to go here |
| 06:45.41 | tsdogs | qtopia / opieII / qt-extended (all the same) imho is the best you can get. |
| 06:45.53 | tsdogs | probably opie works better, but there is no phone app |
| 06:46.07 | tsdogs | no idea if qtopia supports CDMA |
| 06:46.49 | superthebob | yeah, that link you just sent looks awesome |
| 06:47.33 | superthebob | hm... I don't have phone service on the device anyway... just picked it up from an online auction. maybe someday, but probably not on this phone.... |
| 06:47.48 | tsdogs | can't find the link anymore, but BabelO is the guy to ask about BA (at least he was developing on it some time ago) |
| 06:47.53 | superthebob | but, I'll take your word on which way to go :) |
| 06:48.06 | superthebob | I'll keep an eye out for him |
| 06:48.21 | tsdogs | I gg now, cy |
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| 08:19.23 | Squarc | morging |
| 08:24.18 | par | gud am |
| 08:27.20 | Squarc | gud am ? |
| 08:27.52 | par | good a.m. |
| 08:28.07 | Squarc | ah ok, well thx |
| 08:28.11 | Squarc | you 2 |
| 08:28.46 | Squarc | tmzt: can I set the phone disabled (so I cant be called) using a param in de default.txt ? |
| 08:29.06 | Squarc | tmzt: so people will think my phone is offline |
| 08:31.55 | par | has anyone tried fso build on ba? |
| 08:52.58 | Squarc | tmzt: I now directly mounted the /mmc to /sdcard |
| 08:53.07 | Squarc | mount bind that is |
| 08:53.13 | Squarc | still doesnt work |
| 08:53.25 | Squarc | do you think changing the init script will do the trick ? |
| 08:53.45 | Squarc | (mounting the /sdcard BEFORE mounting the android images and starting android) ? |
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| 09:20.07 | Squarc | cew; |
| 09:20.10 | Squarc | cewl |
| 09:20.30 | Squarc | I just changed the root.cpiogz |
| 09:22.37 | Squarc | it doesnt work though :P |
| 09:22.50 | Squarc | hanging at console handover: boot |
| 09:23.03 | Squarc | probably my mount -o bind /mmc /sdcard line that stops the init |
| 09:24.43 | Squarc | why does init.rc say: mkdir /sdcard 0000 system system |
| 09:36.42 | Squarc | damn, it doesnt work |
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| 09:49.38 | Squarc | creating that root.cpiogz file should go like this right ? : |
| 09:50.51 | Squarc | (inside the folder which has the contes of root.cpiogz): find ./ | cpio -o | gzip > ../root.cpiogz |
| 09:56.36 | Squarc | apparently its not |
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| 10:46.21 | Squarc | can someone tell me how to make that .cpiogz file ? |
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| 18:31.47 | lucxxx | can i get some help with android for diamon? |
| 18:31.54 | lucxxx | diamond |
| 18:32.07 | lucxxx | ? |
| 18:33.31 | Echo31 | Hello pH5 |
| 18:34.13 | pH5 | hi |
| 18:34.57 | stefan_schmidt | hi all |
| 18:35.19 | stefan_schmidt | For pxa3xx best use the standard haret? |
| 18:36.23 | stefan_schmidt | hmm, or haret-pxa? |
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| 18:38.57 | Echo31 | pH5: Following your advise, fort the previous Week, i added the vsfb driver from the the last development 2.6.21 |
| 18:42.47 | pH5 | hi stefan_schmidt, the standard one |
| 18:43.03 | pH5 | I think haret-pxa had some pxa27x and asic3 specific goodies |
| 18:43.05 | stefan_schmidt | pH5: hi. Thanks |
| 18:43.24 | stefan_schmidt | ok, so nothing for my nifty omnia with pxa312 |
| 18:43.38 | pH5 | ooh, omnia :) |
| 18:43.47 | stefan_schmidt | pH5: Just arrived :) |
| 18:44.23 | stefan_schmidt | pH5: Harald has no time to hack on it right now, so he sent it over. :) |
| 18:45.00 | stefan_schmidt | pH5: I would be really interested how hard it is to get the msm6xxx over dual port ram setup working. |
| 18:45.14 | stefan_schmidt | There are a lot other phones out there that use this setup. |
| 18:50.12 | Echo31 | pH5: Today, the vsfb for athena is ok . In the second time, I will try to develop the W100fb driver based on the ati w228x. |
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| 19:20.20 | Squarc | lucxxx: you still in here? |
| 19:20.27 | Squarc | hi everyone btw |
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| 19:52.24 | par | hahah, the ba's are pretty fun |
| 19:52.41 | par | i'm running the qtopia 2008 angstrom build on them |
| 19:53.19 | par | and i have them ad-hoc networked together through wifi lol |
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| 20:02.58 | Squarc | nice |
| 20:10.13 | par | SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIENDS! |
| 20:10.14 | par | lol |
| 20:10.24 | Squarc | :p |
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| 20:16.35 | cr2 | stefan_schmidt: use haret CVS, and submit the patches, if necessary |
| 20:17.53 | cr2 | Echo31: i wanted to edit the DPRAM section, but forgot the xda-dev password. i'd like to move all athena pages to htc-linux.org anyway |
| 20:18.51 | stefan_schmidt | cr2: hmm, I hoped to avoid that. Seems not. :) |
| 20:19.14 | stefan_schmidt | cr2: For a first try I used the haret from oliver for the ipaq |
| 20:20.33 | cr2 | Echo31: the atiw-sd and atiw-fb need to demux the vsync and SD irq. it's not so easy to reuse the w100b driver cleanly, we need a atiw-core driver like for asic3 |
| 20:21.02 | tmzt | test |
| 20:21.29 | cr2 | stefan_schmidt: i have some local haret patches here too. waiting for Kevin2 to appear |
| 20:22.11 | stefan_schmidt | cr2: btw, device is here. Just booted a pre-compiled image. fb works, not much more. |
| 20:22.12 | Squarc | tmzt: received test |
| 20:22.31 | stefan_schmidt | cr2: One funny fact is that the 8GB flash are an sd card connected to mmc1 :) |
| 20:22.35 | Echo31 | cr2: for the k2.6.30 of athena, I use the vsfb driver from 2.6.21 |
| 20:22.37 | tmzt | logs are down |
| 20:22.39 | cr2 | stefan_schmidt: where is the sdram located on pxa3xx ? |
| 20:23.05 | stefan_schmidt | cr2: No idea yet |
| 20:23.37 | cr2 | Echo31: it is ok. i have some extensive lists on the ATI fb init. some parts are still too complex (PLL setup) |
| 20:23.59 | cr2 | Echo31: and there are many PLL bit differences vs w100fb |
| 20:24.13 | Echo31 | cr2: Do you want update the http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=AthenaDPRAM? |
| 20:24.19 | cr2 | stefan_schmidt: it must be in the datasheet |
| 20:24.42 | cr2 | Echo31: i want to move all AthenaResearch pages to htc-linux.org wiki |
| 20:24.55 | cr2 | because i've written 99% or them :) |
| 20:25.21 | onen|openBmap | crosses his fingers for stefan_schmidt to make a device work |
| 20:25.38 | cr2 | Echo31: have you finished the cpld code ? then the kernel can be booted i guess. |
| 20:26.16 | stefan_schmidt | cr2: need to check them. Give some time. You ask so we can make a memory dump for the windows kernel thing you talked about? |
| 20:26.22 | cr2 | stefan_schmidt: and there is some memory test command in haret, so you can see which physmem can be allocated |
| 20:26.25 | Squarc | tmzt: I was wondering, can the EXTERNAL_STORAGE param not be set to /mmc |
| 20:26.32 | stefan_schmidt | onen|openBmap: heh, will take time |
| 20:26.38 | cr2 | stefan_schmidt: "dump mmu" first |
| 20:27.54 | cr2 | Echo31: the CPLD bit docs need some revamping on my side. i can provide the proper BT and GPS setup data too. |
| 20:27.55 | stefan_schmidt | cr2: need to reboot |
| 20:29.22 | cr2 | Echo31: i may even add it to the hh.org kernel, so we may have something to check. |
| 20:29.41 | Echo31 | cr2: Yes, my athena can boot with the kernel 2.6.30.r4 modified. |
| 20:32.56 | Echo31 | cr2: I can download the code on http://projects.linuxtogo.org/projects/linuxathena/ |
| 20:33.04 | stefan_schmidt | tries to get a clue from the 4 developer manuals for pxa3xx |
| 20:36.47 | stefan_schmidt | cr2: ok, found the memory map. Need to get a clue of it now :) |
| 20:38.24 | cr2 | Echo31: maybe pH5 can merge it into his tree ? |
| 20:39.00 | cr2 | stefan_schmidt: i thing 0xc0000000 is the sdram begin. like on the sa1100. is it right ? |
| 20:40.09 | tmzt | not like pxa27x? |
| 20:41.06 | stefan_schmidt | cr2: hmm, not sure. I find 0x3000000 for the static memeory controller select 1 here. But that is the controller. |
| 20:42.22 | stefan_schmidt | cr2: ah, 0x0c000000 is static chip select 256mb here. |
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| 20:42.33 | cr2 | ok |
| 20:42.42 | stefan_schmidt | After this only ddr-ram |
| 20:43.14 | cr2 | stefan_schmidt: filter out the 1MB entries from dump mmu. the L1 table |
| 20:43.15 | stefan_schmidt | i would imagine the omnia has a multiple-chip-package with sd ram |
| 20:44.24 | stefan_schmidt | cr2: hm, how do I do this? |
| 20:44.41 | stefan_schmidt | normally I only watch irqs and gpios in haret :) |
| 20:45.01 | stefan_schmidt | ah, dump has a size option |
| 20:46.44 | stefan_schmidt | hmm, still no idea how to filter them out. |
| 20:46.52 | stefan_schmidt | goes and reads the haret docs |
| 20:47.22 | tmzt | filter what? |
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| 20:48.24 | Echo31 | cr2: i don't know. This code is an aggregation of some codes. |
| 20:48.49 | stefan_schmidt | tmzt: The 1MB entries out of the L1 table |
| 20:49.14 | tmzt | dumpmmu 2 <address> |
| 20:49.21 | tmzt | just ignore them/don't watch them |
| 20:50.49 | stefan_schmidt | tmzt: hmm, that's all? |
| 20:54.08 | stefan_schmidt | cr2: you want the complete mmu dump with the 1MB entries filtered out by hand? |
| 20:54.27 | stefan_schmidt | hmm, the haret docs say more or less nothing about dump mmu |
| 20:54.44 | tmzt | docs aren't up to date |
| 20:54.58 | kiozen | ~lart wdslbr |
| 20:54.58 | apt | hits wdslbr with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha |
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| 21:01.48 | cr2 | stefan_schmidt: look with 'pd' at 0x0 and at 0xc0000000 |
| 21:02.04 | cr2 | stefan_schmidt: and you can pastebin the output of 'dump mmu' |
| 21:04.17 | stefan_schmidt | cr2: ack |
| 21:05.32 | stefan_schmidt | cr2: http://pastebin.com/f4ef9fbad |
| 21:06.11 | stefan_schmidt | cr2: What would you expect at 0c0 or 0xc? |
| 21:10.12 | cr2 | stefan_schmidt: b 0x1000 |
| 21:10.17 | cr2 | and ECEC in between |
| 21:10.41 | stefan_schmidt | ok |
| 21:24.09 | stefan_schmidt | cr2: The device really does not like it to do a dump from certain mem parts. 3 freezes until now. :) |
| 21:24.27 | stefan_schmidt | cr2: Need to catch some sleep now. Will have another look tomorrow |
| 21:25.12 | stefan_schmidt | night all |
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| 21:26.09 | cr2_ | fff00000 | | UNMAPPED | |
| 21:26.11 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:26.12 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:26.15 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:26.15 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:26.17 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:26.18 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:26.20 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:26.21 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:26.23 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:26.24 | cr2_ | this is interesting |
| 21:27.14 | cr2_ | looks like SDRAM is at 0x80000000 |
| 21:29.46 | tmzt | stefan_schmidt just left |
| 21:36.33 | cr2_ | tmzt: i've lost the connection too. umts :) |
| 21:37.28 | cr2_ | tmzt: maybe he has tried 'pd 0xc0000000 0x1000' |
| 21:38.18 | cr2_ | tmzt: about rpc and nand |
| 21:38.49 | tmzt | setting up native gentoo to do some research on that |
| 21:39.09 | cr2_ | tmzt: rpc. there is a wince call to query the *ept for PROG,VERS,-1 |
| 21:39.23 | cr2_ | what is in g1 ? |
| 21:39.28 | tmzt | like a control endpoint? |
| 21:39.30 | tmzt | not sure |
| 21:39.47 | tmzt | what is the call? |
| 21:40.33 | cr2_ | wince rpcs are *lookup2(PROG,VERS,-1,... and then rpc_send(*ept,PROG,VERS,FUNC,*msg) |
| 21:43.16 | cr2_ | rpc_clnt_lookup2(PROG,VERS,-1,*reply_buf); |
| 21:43.44 | cr2_ | it picks some data from *msg and calls |
| 21:45.28 | cr2_ | xdr_call_msg_start(msg->var18,PROG,VERS,FUNC,*xxx_buf); |
| 21:46.04 | cr2_ | xdr_call_msg_start(reply_buf->var18,PROG,VERS,FUNC,*reply_buf); |
| 21:46.15 | cr2_ | to be more accurate |
| 21:47.15 | cr2_ | reply_buf->var14 is the send return value |
| 21:48.47 | cr2_ | tmzt: about nand. i think we must switch to 2k partition blocks, and enter the appropriate values in haret |
| 21:49.06 | tmzt | yeah, HTCp like you said? |
| 21:49.12 | cr2_ | the main problem is how to find te TFAT offset. |
| 21:49.41 | cr2_ | or do we export only the APP partition and blow wince away ? |
| 21:50.03 | cr2_ | does not look very good at the current development stage |
| 21:50.53 | tmzt | from APP mbr I think |
| 21:51.13 | tmzt | so we need a two level partition table, or we can just export the absolute blocks for FAT |
| 21:51.15 | cr2_ | unaligned access ? |
| 21:51.20 | tmzt | no |
| 21:51.25 | tmzt | everything is 2k aligned |
| 21:51.51 | cr2_ | then you must read full 2k into a ram buffer |
| 21:51.59 | tmzt | yes |
| 21:52.19 | cr2_ | and get these -73 error ;) |
| 21:52.24 | tmzt | why can't we abstract this at the mtdblock level? |
| 21:52.45 | tmzt | I still can't see how angstrom is scanning the partition table on mtd |
| 21:52.47 | cr2_ | we can. |
| 21:52.50 | tmzt | it doesn't make any sense |
| 21:53.09 | cr2_ | it scans it on a block device. why not ? |
| 21:53.41 | tmzt | so we take the mtd configuration code from yaffs2 |
| 21:53.41 | tmzt | not from msm_nand |
| 21:53.42 | tmzt | if that's the case it should be enough to disable dos partitions in the kernel |
| 21:53.51 | cr2_ | isn't yaffs just using msm_nand ? |
| 21:54.03 | tmzt | it is but it's setting up ops itself |
| 21:54.14 | cr2_ | ok |
| 21:54.26 | cr2_ | then yaffs will the the only filesystem |
| 21:54.34 | cr2_ | that will work on msm |
| 21:55.06 | cr2_ | maybe it's not that bad, i don't know. |
| 21:55.08 | tmzt | yeah, right now |
| 21:55.53 | cr2_ | removing wince is not very good for testing. |
| 21:56.07 | tmzt | right |
| 21:56.09 | cr2_ | then you need to reflash after each reset |
| 21:56.18 | tmzt | does it recover if you just change FAT? |
| 21:56.23 | tmzt | does it hard reset? |
| 21:56.26 | cr2_ | and linux does not even reboot for me without hw reset |
| 21:56.36 | cr2_ | i don't know |
| 21:56.51 | cr2_ | need a "write able" driver first |
| 21:57.22 | cr2_ | and the tfat offset depends on rom. |
| 21:57.26 | tmzt | cmonex: what will happen if the FAT partition is corrupt? will it hard reset? |
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| 22:31.21 | tuxhero | hi |
| 22:31.36 | tmzt | hello |
| 22:31.40 | tuxhero | any one found solution for rpc router? |
| 22:31.45 | tmzt | not yet |
| 22:31.47 | tmzt | working on it |
| 22:31.58 | tuxhero | :( ok |
| 22:39.20 | tmzt | 15:39 < cmonex> if the coruption is so bad it affects registry stored in the |
| 22:39.20 | tmzt | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.20 | tmzt | 15:39 < cmonex> then hardreset... |
| 22:39.21 | tmzt | 15:39 < tmzt> we want it to hard reset, so good |
| 22:39.21 | tmzt | 15:39 < cmonex> either it willbe smart enough to know to do so or you 'll have |
| 22:39.23 | tmzt | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:40.20 | tuxhero | i have disassembled some wince drivers to find out what PROG and VERSION it's sending |
| 22:40.39 | tmzt | please document anything you find in wiki |
| 22:41.51 | tuxhero | and i found some thing strange |
| 22:41.51 | tuxhero | all the PROG's are same as linux kernel but it's not sending any VERSION |
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| 23:13.11 | Kevin2 | cr2: Hrmm - I think I missed you again. |
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