| 01:21.19 | tcccp | Anyone alive in here? |
| 01:35.22 | infidel206 | ... |
| 01:36.00 | tcccp | That's alive enough |
| 01:36.08 | tcccp | Do you have Xnest or Xephyr on some *x box? |
| 01:38.39 | infidel206 | nope |
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| 01:39.03 | infidel206 | i only run *nix servers, not desktops |
| 01:39.42 | tcccp | damn :) |
| 01:39.48 | infidel206 | sorry! |
| 01:39.52 | tcccp | Ok, then I'll have a look for really screwed people ;) |
| 01:39.58 | infidel206 | lol |
| 01:43.38 | tcccp | I have nothing but *x and VMS here |
| 03:09.08 | tmzt | tcccp: what do you need? |
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| 03:10.39 | tcccp | tmzt: I need someone from outside checking if xdmcp to one of my boxes works |
| 03:11.06 | tmzt | how outside? |
| 03:11.25 | tmzt | internet? |
| 03:12.13 | tcccp | yes |
| 03:12.52 | tcccp | `Xnest -ac -local-address ${your_wan_ip} -query 91.66.45.227 :1` |
| 03:13.13 | tcccp | X however seems not to be NAT-aware %) |
| 03:17.38 | tmzt | oh, cant really forward ports either |
| 03:17.52 | tmzt | so you need someone public ip |
| 03:18.05 | tmzt | maybe evdo will work |
| 03:34.40 | tmzt | well, nc worked on port 8000 didn't know that would work |
| 03:35.03 | tmzt | and 6000 |
| 03:36.16 | tcccp | tmzt: If I got '-local-address' right you can override the LAN address with it |
| 03:39.08 | tmzt | trying it |
| 03:39.31 | tmzt | -from? |
| 03:41.54 | tmzt | it won't bind to it locally |
| 03:49.59 | tmzt | what should it do? |
| 03:52.46 | tcccp | I suppose it to send requests to that xdmcp port throwing a login screen to the IP provided |
| 03:53.14 | tmzt | yeah it doesn't get that far |
| 03:53.29 | tcccp | narf |
| 03:53.41 | tcccp | xdmcp is like h.323, protocols worth dying |
| 03:54.09 | tmzt | it won't let me set the local ip as you said so I set up a pseudo address on one of the interfaces |
| 03:54.39 | tmzt | that works with -from but then Xephyr starts with a blank screen |
| 03:55.16 | tmzt | is it supposed to be -query or -indirect? |
| 03:58.12 | tcccp | -query ${remote_machine} |
| 03:59.19 | tmzt | well I just started an xterm over the internet :) from one ip to another |
| 03:59.54 | tmzt | I guess I need to get tcpdump to work with usb0, it should but it uses that to start dumping usb protocol which doesn't work (and I don't want) |
| 04:00.35 | tcccp | Well...we should cancel that...I'm getting tired (06:00am here) |
| 04:00.56 | tmzt | ok |
| 04:01.21 | tcccp | But as I said...there are protocols worth dying :) |
| 04:03.44 | tmzt | just happy to know evdo supports incoming ports |
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| 04:44.28 | l33tlinuxh4x0r | hey all |
| 04:44.36 | tcccp | o.O |
| 04:44.37 | tmzt | hello |
| 04:44.48 | tcccp | Noisy handle ;) |
| 04:45.00 | l33tlinuxh4x0r | I'm trying to get gentoo to boot on my Touch PRO |
| 04:45.06 | tmzt | ok |
| 04:45.23 | l33tlinuxh4x0r | i need help and a faster internet connection |
| 04:45.34 | tmzt | you have get the CHOST right or something like that |
| 04:45.40 | l33tlinuxh4x0r | i'm downloading the msm kernrel right now |
| 04:45.47 | tmzt | solar in #linwizard can probably help with that |
| 04:45.59 | tmzt | as for kernel, that's what we do here :) |
| 04:46.09 | tmzt | which msm kernel? |
| 04:46.14 | tmzt | from where? |
| 04:46.16 | l33tlinuxh4x0r | which one should i use |
| 04:46.24 | l33tlinuxh4x0r | linuxtogo |
| 04:46.25 | tmzt | git.linuxtogo.org kernel.git |
| 04:46.29 | tmzt | htc-linux-2.6.27 |
| 04:46.35 | tmzt | htc-msm-2.6.27 |
| 04:46.36 | l33tlinuxh4x0r | that is what i'm getting |
| 04:46.48 | tmzt | ok |
| 04:46.59 | l33tlinuxh4x0r | git clone git://git.linuxtogo.org/home/groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git? |
| 04:47.14 | tmzt | yes |
| 04:47.21 | tmzt | then git checkout htc-msm-2.6.27 |
| 04:47.31 | l33tlinuxh4x0r | ok |
| 04:47.54 | tmzt | this is a partitial patch to get X working |
| 04:47.56 | tmzt | http://people.openezx.org/tmzt/htcraphael-msmts-and-vres-1.patch |
| 04:48.15 | tmzt | unfortunately I just realized the rest of it is not there |
| 04:48.20 | tmzt | so X doesn't work for me |
| 04:48.50 | tmzt | it's as simple as returning 0 when setting the fb setings but I have to look up how to do that again |
| 04:50.33 | l33tlinuxh4x0r | what toolchain are you using? |
| 04:51.21 | tmzt | I use codesourcery.com, but you can use gentoo crosstool as well |
| 04:51.35 | l33tlinuxh4x0r | yeah i like codesourcery too |
| 04:55.28 | tmzt | it works fine then |
| 04:55.47 | tmzt | there is a gentoo image here for msm if you want it |
| 04:56.03 | tmzt | http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/embedded/images/ |
| 04:56.19 | l33tlinuxh4x0r | cool thanks |
| 04:58.47 | maejrep | anyone good with iPhone app development and might be interested in a development position near in eastern PA? |
| 05:01.21 | l33tlinuxh4x0r | what does the iphone use for a language? c? java? |
| 05:01.32 | tmzt | objective c |
| 05:01.39 | l33tlinuxh4x0r | oh not bad |
| 05:01.46 | l33tlinuxh4x0r | tobad I hate the iphone |
| 05:03.04 | tmzt | hey maejrep, been busy? |
| 05:03.24 | maejrep | yeah :s |
| 05:03.45 | tmzt | kernel is waiting, come back :) |
| 05:04.03 | tmzt | where are you anyway? |
| 05:04.14 | maejrep | eastern PA :p |
| 05:04.26 | tmzt | very near dc? |
| 05:04.32 | maejrep | about 3 hours |
| 05:04.45 | tcccp | I prefer having an iPaq :-P |
| 05:04.47 | tmzt | so maybe 4 hours from here |
| 05:05.04 | maejrep | about 5.5 hours from Norfolk, VA |
| 05:05.36 | tcccp | 20hrs from Germany |
| 05:05.52 | maejrep | I work for myyearbook.com, which has its hq in New Hope, PA |
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| 05:06.20 | idkfa | hi everyone. |
| 05:06.30 | tcccp | ehlo |
| 05:06.37 | tcccp | privet ;-) |
| 05:06.50 | idkfa | zdorovo :-) |
| 05:07.00 | idkfa | пÑÐ¸Ð²ÐµÑ |
| 05:07.13 | tcccp | Don't worry, I'm german ;-) |
| 05:07.37 | idkfa | i'm calm as a steel rail :-) |
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| 07:32.43 | par | hi babelO |
| 07:34.14 | BabelO_ | hi |
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| 08:08.35 | BabelO_ | hi par |
| 08:10.56 | par | whats up babelO |
| 08:11.48 | par | i have a stack of ten 512mb cards i'm going to make linux bootups on |
| 08:12.06 | par | your qtopia build should fit on one right? |
| 08:12.33 | par | i want a qtopia, and a gpe |
| 08:12.41 | BabelO_ | yes it is enough* |
| 08:12.48 | par | lenny i'm fooling around with on 2gb |
| 08:13.14 | par | and you use usb storage interface for klandkarte? |
| 08:13.21 | par | the data |
| 08:14.09 | par | in the kernel you have there with it. is all kernel hacking section turned off? or is there kernel debugging turned on in it. |
| 08:14.38 | par | thats mainly why i've been building new kernels to turn off all thats stuff |
| 08:14.42 | BabelO_ | i don t remember |
| 08:14.46 | par | ok |
| 08:15.17 | par | it makes everything crash and we're lying to ourselves if we think there are gonna be any major improvements anyway |
| 08:15.22 | par | so best just to turn it all off |
| 08:15.53 | BabelO_ | i think it is off then |
| 08:16.16 | par | ok thx |
| 08:16.45 | par | how did you work the klandkarte software? did you have an external bluetooth gps? |
| 08:17.55 | BabelO_ | yes i use my other phone artemis as gps |
| 08:18.20 | par | oh neat |
| 08:18.34 | par | how functional was klandecarte? |
| 08:19.15 | BabelO_ | now it is close to be usable as embedded and it is qlandkarte M |
| 08:19.40 | par | hehe yep sorry.. forgot the name ;) |
| 08:23.50 | par | cool i'll try it out with my vogue's bluetooth |
| 08:38.39 | par | i notice the vector source is from osm |
| 08:39.25 | par | have there been new commits to qlandkarte M since middle of 2008 |
| 08:42.49 | par | maybe we should build a newer version |
| 08:43.20 | par | apparently 0.7.2 is the latest version in debian unstable |
| 08:45.37 | par | oops meant - 0.7.3~dfsg |
| 08:46.03 | par | package is "qlandkarte_0.7.3~dfsg.1-1armel.deb |
| 08:47.31 | par | To mechanically convert a Debian deb file to an ipk file, simply execute |
| 08:47.32 | par | the following commands: |
| 08:47.32 | par | ar x <package>.deb |
| 08:47.33 | par | tar cvzf <package>.ipk ./debian-binary ./data.tar.gz ./control.tar.gz |
| 08:47.34 | par | nice. |
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| 08:56.41 | BabelO_ | par we are working on M every day ! so new commit each day.. and about debian qlandkarte, you are using bad one.... it is qlandkarte GT you need |
| 08:57.48 | par | oh, ok.. i thought Qlandkarte M was used for ppc phones |
| 08:58.23 | BabelO_ | M is on ppc phone yes, wince or linux |
| 08:58.37 | par | but you are using GT on your ba? |
| 08:58.50 | BabelO_ | but the version you speak for armel, is not M |
| 08:58.59 | BabelO_ | you need GT + M |
| 08:59.04 | BabelO_ | GT on computer desktop |
| 08:59.06 | par | ahhh ok so both |
| 08:59.07 | BabelO_ | and M on mobile |
| 08:59.39 | par | whats the most recent version you are running on your ba? |
| 09:00.05 | BabelO_ | i only work on current svn on wince |
| 09:00.11 | par | also, on the image you create when running it.. do you have a swap partition you use? |
| 09:00.14 | par | ahh ok ;) |
| 09:01.15 | par | so you use osm for vector... and then you put the layers together from the data that is gathered |
| 09:01.26 | par | osm fascinates me |
| 09:03.35 | BabelO_ | M is only for raster map |
| 09:03.41 | par | ahhh ok |
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| 09:11.49 | BabelO_ | par did you look at www.qlandkarte.org ? |
| 09:12.53 | sxe | hi |
| 09:13.36 | par | yep i've had a look |
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| 11:07.45 | stefan_schmidt | tmzt: Some more infos about the omnia: http://www.phonewreck.com/2009/05/18/samsung-omnia-i910-review-and-teardown/ |
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| 12:26.10 | xsacha | hey tmzt |
| 12:26.21 | stefan_schmidt | hi xsacha |
| 12:26.28 | xsacha | hi |
| 12:26.32 | stefan_schmidt | xsacha: You are working on omnia? |
| 12:26.38 | xsacha | no, i780 |
| 12:27.05 | xsacha | just need to patch pxafb and use a device system.img (instead of emulator) |
| 12:27.59 | xsacha | i780 is almost identical to a zylonite board |
| 12:28.03 | stefan_schmidt | xsacha: ah, ok |
| 12:29.06 | xsacha | i780 uses same touchscreen as omnia though (wm9713) |
| 12:29.18 | stefan_schmidt | xsacha: yup |
| 12:29.21 | xsacha | and a similar processor (pxa311 vs pxa312) |
| 12:29.23 | stefan_schmidt | for ts and audio |
| 12:29.28 | xsacha | yeah |
| 12:29.38 | xsacha | i have all that stuff working |
| 12:30.02 | stefan_schmidt | cool |
| 12:30.21 | stefan_schmidt | xsacha: also msm6281 on dual port ram? |
| 12:30.49 | xsacha | what's msm? |
| 12:31.07 | xsacha | 3g modem? |
| 12:31.17 | xsacha | omnia uses this? ive been trying to find out what i780 uses |
| 12:32.03 | stefan_schmidt | modem, yes |
| 12:32.22 | stefan_schmidt | xsacha: http://gnufiish.org/trac/wiki/Samsung_Omnia |
| 12:32.40 | stefan_schmidt | would be surprised if i780 would be much different here. |
| 12:32.52 | xsacha | i780 has a service manual but it doesnt specify what any part is.. it refers to them by SEC codes |
| 12:33.11 | stefan_schmidt | hmm |
| 12:33.17 | xsacha | is there an omnia manual which also has SEC codes? could compare the code, if it's the same -- same part |
| 12:34.19 | stefan_schmidt | xsacha: link to the manual is on the wiki site |
| 12:34.23 | xsacha | stefan_schmidt: does your omnia do: gsm 900/1800/1900 and umts 2.1GHz with 7.2Mbit/s HSDPA? |
| 12:34.34 | stefan_schmidt | yup |
| 12:34.46 | xsacha | probably the same then |
| 12:35.12 | xsacha | is there a linux driver for it? |
| 12:35.39 | stefan_schmidt | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:36.52 | stefan_schmidt | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:38.40 | xsacha | your wireless module is different |
| 12:39.06 | stefan_schmidt | xsacha: What does the i780 use? |
| 12:39.49 | xsacha | sec code is out by 2 |
| 12:39.55 | xsacha | i dont see anything on page 44 |
| 12:40.03 | xsacha | no msm anything, just some images |
| 12:41.17 | stefan_schmidt | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:41.47 | stefan_schmidt | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:41.53 | xsacha | thats i780 module |
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| 12:42.01 | xsacha | i780 manual |
| 12:42.33 | stefan_schmidt | ? |
| 12:42.39 | stefan_schmidt | What do you mean? |
| 12:42.46 | xsacha | i thought you were talking about omnia |
| 12:43.56 | stefan_schmidt | xsacha: well, you stated that you don't know which modem the i780 had. So I searched for hints on it. :) |
| 12:44.11 | xsacha | k |
| 12:44.28 | xsacha | any way im looking at SEC codes |
| 12:44.33 | stefan_schmidt | xsacha: For the omnia I was already sure. |
| 12:44.43 | stefan_schmidt | What does SEC stand for? |
| 12:45.07 | xsacha | samsung electronic component or something like that |
| 12:45.12 | xsacha | it's an internal code used only by samsung |
| 12:45.54 | stefan_schmidt | hmm, ok |
| 12:46.25 | stefan_schmidt | The baseband pmic has also a different number. Matching up for the different modem i guess. |
| 12:46.53 | xsacha | :( |
| 12:47.14 | stefan_schmidt | xsacha: The driver side from linux should be pretty similar anyway. |
| 12:47.42 | stefan_schmidt | It's just the question how hard it is to get the driver for the dual port ram communication working. |
| 12:47.56 | xsacha | touchscreen was similar to zylonite except different IRQ number (23 instead of 26) |
| 12:48.20 | xsacha | well one would think all drivers are already there if limo is working on it |
| 12:50.19 | stefan_schmidt | xsacha: There is a complete working linux system. But it is only for internal samsung research. |
| 12:50.20 | xsacha | any way what i mainly need is a device system.img |
| 12:50.23 | xsacha | do you know of one? |
| 12:50.31 | stefan_schmidt | They also have more linux phones there. But not public. |
| 12:50.42 | stefan_schmidt | no, idea. |
| 12:51.17 | xsacha | any omnia android projects with a non-emu system.img? |
| 12:51.30 | stefan_schmidt | Have to go now. The omnia should arrive on monday. Will give it some deepers looks next week then. cu |
| 12:51.40 | xsacha | k cya |
| 12:51.53 | stefan_schmidt | xsacha: No idea about android. Working with freesmartphone.org here. |
| 12:51.54 | stefan_schmidt | bye |
| 12:56.43 | xsacha | i780 GPS: Its based on the Qualcomm MSM6260 gpsOne chipset |
| 13:00.03 | xsacha | usb3319 on omnia |
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| 13:40.52 | xsacha | http://www.google.com/codesearch/p?hl=en#VYmJrYkviBw/trunk/MainProgram/odbm.c&q=usb3319 |
| 13:40.59 | xsacha | code that runs for usb3319 |
| 13:44.04 | xsacha | cya |
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| 15:10.09 | par | xsacha are you using that userland image i pointed you to? |
| 15:10.23 | par | you're still looking for a pxa system.img right? |
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| 17:30.08 | mickeyl | evening |
| 17:33.47 | tmzt | hello |
| 17:34.30 | tmzt | mickeyl: should I put together another patch for cdma with less duplication? |
| 17:34.37 | mickeyl | tmzt: yes, that'd be appreciated |
| 17:34.51 | tmzt | ok, I'll look into it |
| 17:34.54 | mickeyl | thanks |
| 17:35.03 | mickeyl | did i miss anything important this week? |
| 17:35.08 | mickeyl | (was completely offline) |
| 17:35.12 | tmzt | need to get X working again first |
| 17:35.26 | tmzt | cr2 has been working with mtd |
| 17:35.54 | tmzt | as well as finding rpcsvfor audio, gps, etc |
| 17:36.18 | tmzt | rpcs for |
| 17:37.37 | mickeyl | wow, good stuf |
| 17:37.38 | mickeyl | f |
| 17:38.19 | tmzt | hopefully this means we can replace ce if we can init the hardware in linux |
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| 17:38.46 | tmzt | we have a few options, |
| 17:39.21 | tmzt | we can replace xip - ce kernel blob - which is loaded by their bootloader and run |
| 17:39.59 | tmzt | this could be a blob containing a tiny bootloader - machtype, atags - and zImage |
| 17:40.40 | tmzt | then root would be on sd or one of the user mtd partitions for now |
| 17:41.52 | tmzt | or we can replace that bootloader, meaning no ce at all and only modem side would be closed, almost like fr |
| 17:42.40 | tmzt | the problem with replacing bootloader is recovery would have to be through serial port, not usb |
| 17:43.18 | tmzt | we would also have to initialize arm11 side, clocks, etc. |
| 17:44.36 | tmzt | a qualcomm project has released a u-boot patch for a dev board for a new version of the msm chip |
| 17:46.08 | tmzt | https://www.codeaurora.org/patches/quic/le/u-boot-2009.03_PATCH_2009_05_14.patch |
| 17:47.36 | tmzt | some one who has worked with nand registers on the 7xxx says it's the same |
| 17:47.55 | tmzt | nand is the same |
| 17:48.39 | mickeyl | interesting, being able to boot a bit faster would rock |
| 17:48.57 | mickeyl | i would not mind keeping CE, but not having to wait until it's loaded would be an achievement |
| 17:52.08 | tmzt | we have a couple of other possibilities allowing us to ram boot the bootloader blob, either from usb or sd card |
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| 18:38.08 | Gat0rsFD | anyone here use the Telus radio Rom? or just linux? |
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| 18:39.00 | tmzt | Gat0rsFD: on? |
| 18:40.40 | Gat0rsFD | HTC Touch Pro (alltel) |
| 18:40.57 | Gat0rsFD | I just wanted to see what it looks like... |
| 18:42.13 | tmzt | try #xda-devs not sure what your going to see from radio though |
| 18:42.39 | tmzt | raph800? |
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| 18:48.48 | Gat0rsFD | thnx |
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| 23:04.55 | high-rez | Can someone tell me what the status of android is on the raphael ? |
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| 23:50.41 | tmzt | high-rez: hello |
| 23:51.06 | tmzt | no phone calls with sound |
| 23:51.15 | tmzt | no wifi |