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| 09:12.54 | szsoftware | Abracadabra: good morning! |
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| 09:13.16 | Abracadabra | it's friday ! |
| 09:13.18 | Abracadabra | yay |
| 09:13.21 | Abracadabra | ^^ |
| 09:13.46 | slpr | so.... whats the status on the linux project for the raphael? is the wiki really up-to-date it seems like it was sooo long ago it was updated |
| 09:14.20 | Abracadabra | ah good point, that reminds me I need to flash my kayser rom and install linux on it |
| 09:18.53 | szsoftware | who writes stuff in htc-msm-2.6.27 ? |
| 09:19.38 | szsoftware | damn git.ltg.org hangs bloody |
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| 10:35.54 | slpr | so.... whats the status on the linux project for the raphael? is the wiki really up-to-date it seems like it was sooo long ago it was updated |
| 10:36.01 | slpr | sorry for the spam :-) |
| 10:37.15 | mickey|zzZZzz | rap100: fb works, SD works, GSM works, USB works. no audio, no gprs, no wifi, no bluetooth |
| 10:43.26 | slpr | so the wiki is updated correctly? :) |
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| 12:50.07 | szsoftware | hello silence! |
| 12:52.05 | szsoftware | is there any difference in /dev/block/loop*, mmcblk*, smd*, whatever in existance of special file or values of major/minor, depending on raphael/diamond/kaiser/polaris/etc.? |
| 12:52.29 | szsoftware | omg, what a confuse question.. |
| 12:54.46 | szsoftware | e.g. should be /dev/smd* or /dev/block/mmcblk* be equal (also in major/minor) on devices running htc-msm-2.6.27 OR htc-vogue? |
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| 12:57.04 | szsoftware | I want to create default device node list in init script, with devs that must be there, maybe device-specific for universal usage of the initrd on different devices |
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| 13:21.37 | AstainHellbring | morning marajin |
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| 14:15.00 | Balsat | I know is not the right place to ask, but does anyone know the LG KM900 Arena is is worth the money? |
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| 14:19.05 | AstainHellbring | Baardern looks kinda meh |
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| 18:51.31 | szsoftware | netripper: ping |
| 18:51.46 | szsoftware | marajin: evening brother! :-) |
| 19:16.37 | cr2 | MSM7225 ? |
| 19:17.35 | cr2 | dismantling the raph docking station now :) |
| 19:32.26 | AstainHellbring | hiya cr2 |
| 19:32.33 | AstainHellbring | dismanteling it huh? |
| 19:33.24 | cr2 | the quality is miserable, which i've expected. |
| 19:33.40 | cr2 | but it's perfect for hacking. exactly what i need. |
| 19:34.16 | cr2 | has usb io, mic in and sound out pins soldered. |
| 19:34.46 | cr2 | pin 7 is does not have a cable connected. |
| 19:35.06 | cr2 | hmm. need to find the pinout picture. |
| 19:35.19 | cr2 | i also got the tvout cable. |
| 19:35.27 | cr2 | hehe. but don't have a tv. |
| 19:40.10 | cr2 | no pin numbers. http://forum.revskills.de/download/file.php?id=78 |
| 19:41.24 | cr2 | 1 and 2 is mic in. |
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| 19:50.32 | cr2 | AstainHellbring: do you have the 3in1 adapter with raph800 ? |
| 19:52.27 | marajin | szsoftware: 'lo |
| 19:58.10 | szsoftware | yo |
| 19:59.20 | szsoftware | does anyone know, why the network setup for usb0 and telnet connection is ready after android starts and not just from init? |
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| 21:42.38 | szsoftware | j0b0: Hi. May I ask you something? |
| 21:43.15 | j0b0 | szsoftware hey you make my dock icon bounce |
| 21:43.30 | szsoftware | :-) |
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| 21:44.22 | j0b0 | howsit going |
| 21:44.48 | szsoftware | when I set "debug=1" in kernel cmdline in default.txt, I have no access to this var in my script,using ${debug}. Can you give me a hint? |
| 21:45.38 | j0b0 | does it work for other variables (like 'deebug') |
| 21:45.48 | j0b0 | if so, i would say 'debug' gets eaten by the kernel |
| 21:48.14 | szsoftware | wait.. |
| 21:49.00 | szsoftware | oh, yeah. I think it's a reserved word. |
| 21:49.30 | szsoftware | Hmm, trying dot separated vars in this short notation now.. |
| 21:56.59 | szsoftware | Damn: syntax error: bad substitution |
| 21:58.58 | szsoftware | j0b0: How do you fill ${imgdevname} with value[s]? |
| 21:59.30 | j0b0 | from the cmdline in default.txt |
| 22:01.19 | szsoftware | j0b0: yes I know. Like this "imgdevname=blah" ? |
| 22:01.43 | j0b0 | yes sir |
| 22:03.29 | szsoftware | j0b0: so unfortunately I just found out, that I can't have access to such a notation:"foo.bar=bla", it gives me bad substitution error in the script. Have to take the long way, grepping /proc/cmdline :-( |
| 22:04.24 | j0b0 | variables may not have dots in them |
| 22:07.00 | szsoftware | j0b0: yes, seems so. But if there is another way to hold this notation, it's ok. |
| 22:08.57 | j0b0 | im not sure what youre trying to do |
| 22:13.39 | szsoftware | j0b0: Ah, dont worry. It works so far. I have some vars, dot separated in cmdline. Like "net.ip=192.168.2.1 net.gw=192.168.2.100 net.service=telnet". You (indirectly) gave me the hint, to use ${foobar}, instead of grepping /proc/cmdline. I found out, that this doesn't work. |
| 22:14.27 | j0b0 | use underscores in stead of dots |
| 22:15.04 | szsoftware | j0b0: this is a logic conclusion .. |
| 22:18.44 | szsoftware | j0b0: now I know why I took this way. It was the ppp.apn, ppp.username, ppp.password.And I want to have a similar syntax for the vars. So I will have to grep further the /proc/cmdline :-( |
| 22:19.45 | j0b0 | ..just for the sake of having dots, but its your call of course |
| 22:21.13 | szsoftware | damn domain like hierarchy .. |
| 22:22.33 | j0b0 | oh.. and +1 on netripper ping |
| 22:22.48 | j0b0 | im trying to get size/pressure from the touch screen |
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| 22:23.08 | j0b0 | i can pretty reliably tell stylus or nail from finger or nose |
| 22:23.22 | j0b0 | but near the edges the math breaks a bit |
| 22:23.49 | AstainHellbring | hi j0b0 |
| 22:24.02 | j0b0 | evening AstainHellbring |
| 22:27.27 | AstainHellbring | whatcha working on? |
| 22:34.32 | j0b0 | im trying to get size/pressure from the touch screen |
| 22:37.32 | AstainHellbring | wow cool |
| 22:38.14 | netripper | szsoftware: pong |
| 22:38.40 | szsoftware | Hey netripper! |
| 22:38.47 | netripper | hi there |
| 22:38.49 | netripper | :) |
| 22:39.08 | szsoftware | Are you still developing htc-msm-2.6.27 |
| 22:39.10 | szsoftware | ? |
| 22:39.15 | netripper | no, not at the moment |
| 22:39.30 | szsoftware | when the last time? |
| 22:39.46 | netripper | i had to stop as i needed to put my efforts elsewhere unfortunately |
| 22:39.48 | netripper | emm |
| 22:39.49 | szsoftware | What is the status of the vkb there? |
| 22:39.52 | netripper | lets look at the commit time :) |
| 22:40.08 | netripper | februari |
| 22:40.30 | netripper | what status specifically? |
| 22:40.33 | j0b0 | evening netripper |
| 22:40.39 | j0b0 | good to see you |
| 22:40.39 | szsoftware | huh, long time ago |
| 22:40.45 | netripper | evening j0b0 :) |
| 22:40.49 | netripper | yes |
| 22:41.03 | netripper | Martijn Stolk, thats me |
| 22:41.08 | szsoftware | how is it realized? |
| 22:41.36 | netripper | the initial vkb was first written by druidu i believe |
| 22:41.44 | netripper | it's hooked in the msm_ts driver |
| 22:42.00 | szsoftware | ok so nothing new |
| 22:42.02 | j0b0 | i found that if you combine the data from +0x110 and +0x114 , |
| 22:42.11 | j0b0 | and do soe weird math on it, |
| 22:42.30 | j0b0 | you can tell a bit whether you touch with a stylus or a finger |
| 22:42.43 | netripper | when the msm_ts driver receives a 'touch' event, it calls the vkb to tell it there's been a touch, and it figures out if it was one of the vkb.. if it was.. the msm_ts driver will ignore the touch and not send it to the linux input system.. if it was outside the vkb, it sends it to the input system |
| 22:43.01 | netripper | j0b0: ah, nice.. i've seen that work in winmo indeed.. |
| 22:43.11 | netripper | sometimes i cant scroll with stylus, only with finger |
| 22:43.29 | netripper | i thought they used averaging to see how much of the area is pressed |
| 22:43.41 | szsoftware | netripper: thank you |
| 22:43.52 | netripper | thought it worked like, if it's a larger area, it's a finger.. if it's a small area it's the stylus |
| 22:43.54 | j0b0 | in winmo, in explorer and settings and things, you can scroll with your finger or multi-select with your nail |
| 22:44.17 | netripper | there are like 4 or 5 averaging registers |
| 22:44.23 | j0b0 | but i havent found any registers or addresses that report size/pressure nicely |
| 22:44.41 | netripper | afaik the touchscreen doesn't support pressure |
| 22:44.53 | j0b0 | ok, then its size |
| 22:45.19 | j0b0 | it does increase if i push harder with the stylus |
| 22:45.29 | j0b0 | but i can see how that would also kinf of increase area |
| 22:46.09 | netripper | hm.. but don't you accidently 'move' your stylus when you press it harder? i've been looking at the regs as well.. and i caught myself moving the stylus a little bit as i applied pressure |
| 22:46.45 | netripper | i think we're currently not using averaging regs in the msm_ts driver |
| 22:47.04 | j0b0 | no. only the absolute position |
| 22:47.14 | netripper | yes |
| 22:48.13 | j0b0 | so it seems that both 0x110 and 0x114 report position, but 0x114 is offset and scaled and skewed relative to 0x110 |
| 22:48.30 | netripper | heh it's funny also.. i was working quite a while on the msm_ts driver to properly detect a "pen up" event.. as the interrupts seem a bit out of sync.. sometimes the last interrupt fires while it was a pen down.. effectively never releasing the stylus |
| 22:48.37 | j0b0 | and the amount of offset and scale change as size / area changes |
| 22:49.19 | netripper | so i eventually used a timer to detect a release if there were no interrupts for a while... but then google released a msm_ts driver for the same thing.. and there they had a // TODO: comment that said they needed to add a timer as the last interrupt doesn't always fire |
| 22:49.27 | netripper | was quite satisfying |
| 22:49.27 | netripper | ;) |
| 22:49.34 | j0b0 | nice going |
| 22:49.52 | netripper | ah ok |
| 22:49.57 | netripper | thats a nice find |
| 22:50.16 | netripper | i think it's also dependent on the configuration we get from winmo |
| 22:50.32 | netripper | those regs can be configured to report things differently afaik |
| 22:52.00 | j0b0 | yes. so for every (x1,y1),(x2,y2) pair, there are a,b,c in x1 = ax2 + by2 +c that are pretty constant across the screen as long as you touch with the same pressure and size, ...etc... |
| 22:52.30 | j0b0 | so i solve for those, see what gets bigger/smaller when pushing harder/bigger |
| 22:52.55 | netripper | nice :) |
| 22:53.02 | netripper | maybe we can translate it to pressure as well |
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| 22:56.46 | j0b0 | http://tibook.jb.b4m.com/j0b0/zImage-pressure-jobo |
| 22:57.08 | j0b0 | this kernel logs some cooked values to the console |
| 22:57.15 | j0b0 | fromt he touch screen driver |
| 22:57.44 | netripper | ah |
| 22:58.06 | netripper | im reinstalling my server atm so i dont have time to take a look now |
| 22:58.06 | netripper | :) |
| 22:58.21 | j0b0 | you can see how values change more by how tou touch than by where you touch |
| 22:58.38 | j0b0 | except near the edges. its a bit unreliable there |
| 22:58.56 | netripper | probably because the surrounding area is different |
| 22:59.03 | netripper | you'd need to compensate for that |
| 22:59.30 | j0b0 | also when you let got, the last couple of samples are off the charts |
| 22:59.47 | netripper | lol |
| 23:00.05 | j0b0 | *let go |
| 23:10.30 | j0b0 | so i have 6 values that all vary with how you touch, so i have to normalize and combine them to get a reliable reading |
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