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| 15:12.54 | UnknownArtists | miknix, hi... sorry that i've left so fast last time.... i could'nt thank you for your help |
| 15:13.20 | UnknownArtists | so i do now, thx!! |
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| 16:48.18 | *** topic/#htc-linux is Welcome to htc-linux | Logs: http://apt.rikers.org/%23htc-linux | Livelogs: http://irclog.netripper.com/?chan=htc-linux | Wiki: http://htc-linux.org/wiki | Original project page: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Xanadux | Please use device codenames. For aliases, see: http://wiki.xda-developers.com | Join #android for android centered discussion. |
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| 17:16.07 | dcordes-kais | lo |
| 17:27.16 | Marajin_ | 'lo dcordes-kais |
| 17:29.21 | dcordes-kais | how's it going? |
| 17:29.36 | Marajin_ | not bad really, yourself? |
| 17:29.47 | Marajin_ | Got my tablet PC working in quad touch mode now :) |
| 17:30.18 | dcordes-kais | I'm fine. only 2 months of community service left |
| 17:30.23 | dcordes-kais | quad mode?? |
| 17:30.41 | marajin | community service? Oh the thing that you have to do if you don't do military service? |
| 17:30.52 | dcordes-kais | yea |
| 17:31.01 | marajin | yeah it reads 4 discrete simultaenous points of contact |
| 17:31.19 | dcordes-kais | replacement service don't know the correct term |
| 17:31.32 | marajin | it's ok, i remember the stuff from german class like 10 years ago :p |
| 17:31.55 | dcordes-kais | does it work with xorg? |
| 17:32.04 | marajin | no |
| 17:32.08 | marajin | works under windows 7 tho' |
| 17:33.04 | dcordes-kais | oh my brother keeps telling me about how great that os is |
| 17:33.16 | marajin | Windows 7 is pretty nice for windows yeah |
| 17:34.04 | marajin | Stable and fast |
| 17:34.29 | dcordes-kais | I'm looking forward to the hyper fast new msm chipsets |
| 17:34.50 | marajin | screw the MSM chipsets, I'm getting one of the nvidia ones next time I upgrade |
| 17:34.56 | dcordes-kais | 'android netbooks' |
| 17:35.12 | marajin | android on a netbook is a dumb idea |
| 17:35.34 | dcordes-kais | not from the marketing pov |
| 17:35.47 | marajin | Maybe, maybe not but I wouldn't use it |
| 17:36.13 | dcordes-kais | install gentoo |
| 17:36.13 | marajin | windows 7 and full blown linux work great on atom chipsets on netbooks so I don't care to use android |
| 17:36.43 | marajin | I can't be bothered with the time it'd take to do gentoo on a netbook man :P |
| 17:36.56 | marajin | It's fine on my quad xeon but on a netbook? |
| 17:37.34 | dcordes-kais | shrugs |
| 17:37.45 | dcordes-kais | I never used gentoo |
| 17:37.54 | marajin | I've used it for about 8 years |
| 17:38.54 | marajin | I quite like just using my tablet, much more powerful than a netbook, still pretty portable and the battery is nearly as long lived as my netbook |
| 17:39.28 | dcordes-kais | does it have lithium polymer bat ? |
| 17:39.43 | marajin | dunno, never checked |
| 17:39.44 | dcordes-kais | brb |
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| 17:40.15 | marajin | anyway, I'd still quite like to get android going on my kovsky but just can't be bothered with it on anything bigger |
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| 18:36.49 | tmzt | marajin: how is kov kernel? |
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| 19:19.50 | flatline5 | hi there! i just went crazy over my windows mobile install and decided to look at installing linux instead on my htc herm100 |
| 19:20.14 | AstainHellbring | hi |
| 19:22.30 | flatline5 | is there any good linux distro that work for the herm100? |
| 19:22.59 | flatline5 | long ago, i heard about qtopia and openmoko, now i see there's more, but they dont support lots of phones... |
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| 22:14.43 | marajin | yo ALoGeNo |
| 22:15.19 | marajin | hey AstainHellbring |
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| 22:37.30 | cr2 | marajin: what's wrong with linux on netbook ? |
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| 22:40.40 | marajin | cr2: nothing's wrong with linux on netbook? I was saying android is pointless on netbook |
| 22:41.41 | miknix | marajin, well.. there are very few other linux stack alternatives |
| 22:42.10 | miknix | between all of them, maybe android is the most complete |
| 22:42.17 | miknix | IMHO |
| 22:42.48 | cr2 | i run debian on nc10 |
| 22:43.02 | cr2 | even gnash is working. |
| 22:44.28 | cr2 | miknix: ali1234 says docg3 driver works on wizard ? |
| 22:45.00 | miknix | never tested, but he has a g2 though |
| 22:45.12 | miknix | things might be slightly different for a g3 |
| 22:45.45 | cr2 | g2 works anyway |
| 22:45.51 | cr2 | he said g3 driver works |
| 22:46.37 | cr2 | if the zimage can be read out of mdoc, it'd be possible to flash it :) |
| 22:49.00 | miknix | :) |
| 22:49.54 | cr2 | miknix: what does work on wizard now ? |
| 22:50.09 | miknix | everything except |
| 22:50.33 | miknix | wifi, power button, suspend, irda, sound, camera |
| 22:50.43 | miknix | batteru |
| 22:51.07 | miknix | I'm building a armv5te e + fso right now |
| 22:51.12 | cr2 | hm. wifi is tiacx ? |
| 22:51.20 | miknix | lets see if I can get a gsm stack running |
| 22:51.37 | miknix | cr2, seems so. we have a pci driver on the repo |
| 22:51.58 | miknix | porting that stuff to sdio is no easy |
| 22:52.42 | miknix | there is a google project that is working on a new sdio linux stack |
| 22:52.50 | miknix | primarily for mips |
| 22:52.55 | cr2 | tiacx sdio works on g1 |
| 22:53.08 | miknix | have to look at that |
| 22:53.52 | cr2 | maejrep managed to load it, but the fw load code is missing. |
| 22:54.12 | cr2 | because they put it into androed for some reason. |
| 22:55.34 | miknix | do we know how the fw is loaded on wm5? |
| 22:58.19 | miknix | isn't the firmware inside the wifi driver? assuming there is a separate module for it |
| 22:59.59 | cr2 | no |
| 23:00.09 | cr2 | the g1 and wince firmware are different. |
| 23:00.17 | cr2 | for some unknown reason. |
| 23:00.21 | miknix | hum.. |
| 23:01.55 | cr2 | fw != eeprom |
| 23:02.03 | cr2 | i think it's the same on acx100 |
| 23:04.00 | miknix | yeah, volatile memory is cheaper |
| 23:06.04 | cr2 | hmm. assembled my s3c2443 pna back. |
| 23:07.04 | cr2 | and it even works. |
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| 23:07.26 | miknix | cr2, well.. if both drivers raw copy the firmware into the microcontroller, then the android guys must have reprogrammed the fw |
| 23:07.59 | cr2 | miknix: eeprom (may be) uploaded over sdio |
| 23:08.18 | cr2 | but it also supports eepromless operation, i think. |
| 23:08.44 | cr2 | the main firmware loader is probably very similar to the acx100 code. |
| 23:08.57 | cr2 | it's just missing from the tiacx driver. |
| 23:09.17 | cr2 | there is some mmap(/dev/mem) userspace code instead. |
| 23:09.30 | miknix | o.O |
| 23:10.14 | miknix | I thought only the fw was missing |
| 23:10.39 | miknix | lol, writting firmwares into /dev/mem seems crazy |
| 23:11.47 | cr2 | the fw is not missing, it is in \windows |
| 23:12.31 | miknix | http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/6/29/143 |
| 23:14.36 | miknix | they had problems pushing the driver to linux due to GPL and how they got and load the fw it seems |
| 23:14.52 | miknix | maybe that's the reason why they use a different fw |
| 23:15.33 | cr2 | it's a different driver |
| 23:16.00 | cr2 | the tiacx driver is written by ti, and adapted by androids |
| 23:16.26 | cr2 | so there are no gpl problems |
| 23:28.48 | cr2 | good night |
| 23:28.54 | miknix | night |
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