IRC log for #htc-linux on 20090429

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01:52.22nearsthave an idea how blackstone running for android ?
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03:19.07tmztnearst: it's being worked, somebody reported yesterday that it somewhat worked but I don't remember the details
03:19.18tmztworked on
03:19.42AstainHellbringsup tmzt
03:20.24tmztnot much
03:20.45tmztany idea about blak?
03:20.52AstainHellbringnope
03:21.16nearsthurm
03:21.28Marajinblackstone running android is not far from kovsky running android
03:21.35Marajinit boots, it shows a screen, the touchscreen works
03:21.41Marajinkinda end of story
03:21.52nearstnot full work
03:22.41MarajinI think it can technically deal with the GSM module but there's no audio so it's useless
03:23.19nearstkinda like not enough information for hd chipset
03:23.48Marajinwe don't have 'enough' information on any chipset
03:24.02Marajinit's like 99% reverse engineered for these devices I think
03:24.24nearsti dont know how to do that
03:24.28nearstteach me plez
03:24.33nearsti'll do it
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03:24.46Marajinmeh I don't know enough about it to teach you anything
03:25.08nearst:D
03:28.58tmztI thoight blak radio was used on other devices successfully
03:29.49Marajinsure the radio is workign but there's no audio
03:29.54Marajinso.. useless under android
03:30.20Marajinkovsky also works on radio I think, android sees signal/reacts to SMS/incoming calls I seem to recall
03:30.29tmztprobably rpc yhough
03:30.39Marajinusing blak imagines
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03:30.42Marajin*images
03:30.55tmztdon't know how that is going
03:31.12tmztgeneric rpc support
03:32.56Marajinwell last I checked they were concentrating entirely on getting audio on blak/raph/etc.
03:33.02Marajinand weren't progressing at all
03:33.09AstainHellbringaudio would rock on raph
03:33.21Marajinand I haven't yet found out why it was apparently so simple on kais but seems to be taking forever on everything else
03:33.56tmztdzo
03:34.00tmztreally
03:34.37tmztthe rpc support is in the ril nor audiomanager
03:35.22Marajinwell it was pre dzo having a kaiser/caring... plus from all I recall the kaiser just went 'oh you started a call **setups up audio automatically**' I don't know much detail about it, that's just how it was described at the time
03:35.33Marajinthat it immediately set up audio as soon as it entered calls
03:36.05AstainHellbringwierd
03:36.10tmztwell ok
03:36.32tmztbut that was using dzo ril and voguehw I thought
03:36.51Marajinyes
03:37.13Marajinbut that'd mean the vogue and kaiser were almost 100% identical which is vaguely mad because they're 7500 vs 7200 and so on
03:37.14dzohi, heard my name, anything you want to know?
03:37.45Marajindzo: what did it take to make audio work and can you explain why it seemed to occur so quickly for kaiser/vogue but is going virtually nowhere on raph/kovs/blak/etc. ?
03:38.02Marajinor in shorter terms, please explain why you're so godly? :p
03:38.49dzoIt wasn't easy, I had to trace the rpc calls and adsp messages, they are quite similar on vogue and kaiser so it wasn't hard to get kaiser working.
03:39.02dzodo you have working rpc
03:40.13dzodo you mean pcm audio or audio routing?
03:40.27AstainHellbringboth what is the pcm audio?
03:41.04dzoplaying audio.
03:41.35AstainHellbringand audio routing is the phone calling?
03:42.24dzoaudio routing is telling the hw where audio comes from, e.g. headset, speaker, handset.
03:42.54AstainHellbringahh ic
03:42.56AstainHellbringnice
03:43.13dzoaudio routing needs an rpc with 3 parameters plus some values in smem.
03:43.55AstainHellbringwhat values in smem did it need?
03:45.20dzolook at vogue_hw.c, prog is 30000002, func 1, then device, earmute, micmute
03:45.37dzodevice is 0 for handset, 1 for speaker, 2 for headset.
03:46.21dzobut you need working rpc first.
03:46.37AstainHellbringtmzt do you know if we have the rpc working?
03:47.27tmztno
03:47.51tmztjust that cr2 is working on it
03:47.51AstainHellbringdzo how can we check for rpc?
03:51.03dzoLook for the messages in smem and see if the vogue/kaiser driver can be made to work.
03:51.44dzoits in vogue_rpc.c
03:53.37dzorpc messages start with a header that is 0x80XXXXYY where XX and YY are lengths and ids followed by another id and length then some big endian numbers.
03:56.12dzoe.g. 80a9003c,3f000000,0,02000000,13000031,0,01000000... is an rpc message from the audio manager (prog 0x31000013)
03:57.36dzo3c is the length, 3f is a unique id for the message and so on..
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05:14.17AstainZZZZZZanyone know if there is a good ril driver for the pxa chipsets?
05:18.17tmztwhich modem?
05:18.30tmztAstainZZZZZZ:
05:19.06AstainZZZZZZtmzt not sure which modem the one in the athena
05:19.31tmztnot sure
05:20.01tmztpatvhing out the writesys calls in dzo's might work
05:20.26AstainZZZZZZhmm ok
05:20.39tmztor you might need mux or something else
05:23.15AstainZZZZZZdoes the uni have working ril?
05:24.16AstainZZZZZZwell anyway thanks for the info ttfn time for bed
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08:25.31Abracadabragood morning
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12:15.07Untouchab1eGood afternoon :)
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12:55.55AstainZZZZZZgood morning
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14:01.28Marajinmorning AstainZZZZZZ
14:04.19AstainZZZZZZsup Marajin
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14:18.19MarajinAstainHellbring: Not much really, still trying to wake up, yourself?
14:21.20AstainHellbringaaye
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16:28.28chatwhorehow can i numb my nerv forever so i wont ever feel pain again? does nerv causes pain? seriously man
16:28.49captnoordyup
16:28.54captnoordand it is possible
16:29.05mickey|bblwhere's the pain located?
16:29.15captnoordthe nerve of my feet is damaged
16:29.22mickey|bbloh bumemr
16:29.25mickey|bblsorry to hear
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16:29.49captnoordyou can try a pressure bandage....
16:29.53captnoordthat did the trick with mine
16:31.23AstainHellbringsup captnoord
16:31.36captnoordkinda going well
16:31.46captnoordnot good anough
16:31.56captnoordbut i'm almost on the jazz....
16:32.12captnoordbuild my 400Mhz 8Ghz antena 2 days ago
16:32.15captnoorddid some math today
16:32.21captnoordand some messurements
16:32.29captnoordand i'm still a bit dazzled about the math...
16:32.33captnoordbut... i'm getting there
16:32.54captnoordand i'm happy because the nerve in my foot isn't destroyed
16:32.57captnoordits just damaged
16:33.14captnoordso there is a possibility I will regain the feeling in my foot
16:33.40AstainHellbringthat is good
16:33.54captnoordyup
16:34.07captnoordits a matter of time.... and I may run again
16:34.09captnoordsmall time
16:34.17captnoordand on flat surfaces only....
16:36.09AstainHellbringcaptnoord you make mention of working on sound support a few days ago?
16:36.33captnoordI did......
16:36.42captnoordbut I am kinda in a rollar coaster
16:36.46captnoordand I didn't tested it
16:37.13captnoordas I didn't have time to setup the rpc stuff
16:37.32captnoordbut the value's that I posted I extracted from the adsp dll
16:38.37captnoordadsprtossvccore.dll
16:38.38captnoordthat one
16:39.05chatwhorehow dare you peopel live here and thinkabout not kiling yourselflikethe cops etc? do yo uknow bad pain canget? stupid morons
16:39.17captnoord.text:1000175C aAdsp_rtos      DCB "ADSP_RTOS",0       ; DATA XREF: .text:off_10002E84o
16:39.20captnoordfollowing this stuff
16:39.35captnoordgot this
16:39.35captnoord.text:10002E74 ; --------------------------------------------------------------------------- .text:10002E78 off_10002E78    DCD unk_1000DB18        ; DATA XREF: sub_10002D10+154r .text:10002E7C off_10002E7C    DCD unk_1000DB14        ; DATA XREF: sub_10002D10+130r .text:10002E80 dword_10002E80  DCD 0x1012EFC           ; DATA XREF: sub_10002D10+104r .text:1
16:39.38captnoordwoeps
16:39.48captnoord.text:10002E80 dword_10002E80  DCD 0x1012EFC           ; DATA XREF: sub_10002D10+104r
16:39.55captnoord0x1012EFC
16:40.48captnoordhttp://www.mibbit.com/pb/WIgQ4U
16:41.23captnoordand the function I got that from
16:41.27captnoordis part of the DSP init
16:41.37captnoordand yea I am noob in coding linux kernel drivers
16:41.49captnoordbut i'm not so noob in asm...
16:42.14AstainHellbringinteresting
16:42.53captnoordso following that code I think its registering that hex value I posted as the ADSP_RTOS
16:43.07captnoordwhich was missing..... if I read the post on htc-linux
16:43.17AstainHellbring<dzo> It wasn't easy, I had to trace the rpc calls and adsp messages, they are quite similar on vogue and kaiser so it wasn't hard to get kaiser working.
16:44.35captnoordhmmm
16:44.39captnoordI ment the post on htc-android
16:45.20AstainHellbringthere was a bit more dzo said as well
16:45.41captnoordI think that if I have time I am able todo it....
16:45.41AstainHellbring<dzo> Look for the messages in smem and see if the vogue/kaiser driver can be made to work.
16:45.41AstainHellbring<dzo> its in vogue_rpc.c
16:45.41AstainHellbring<dzo> rpc messages start with a header that is 0x80XXXXYY where XX and YY are lengths and ids followed by another id and length then some big endian numbers.
16:45.41AstainHellbring* ellisway (n=ellis@78-105-45-135.zone3.bethere.co.uk) Quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
16:45.42AstainHellbring<dzo> e.g. 80a9003c,3f000000,0,02000000,13000031,0,01000000... is an rpc message from the audio manager (prog 0x31000013)
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16:45.46AstainHellbring<dzo> 3c is the length, 3f is a unique id for the message and so on..
16:46.28captnoordi'm basing what I did on this post
16:46.29captnoordhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3454063&postcount=190
16:46.57captnoordso I think that hex value should be
16:46.58captnoordRPC_ADSP_RTOS_ATOM_VERS
16:50.22AstainHellbringhmm
16:51.00captnoordhmmm but besides the heavy experimental... I think I will seek my holy greal with the asm
16:51.02captnoordin the*
16:51.45AstainHellbringanything I can do to help?
16:51.56captnoordgive me time
16:52.05captnoordbut I have some free time tonight
16:52.18captnoordmaybe I will do something I have never done before
16:52.26AstainHellbringok
16:52.39captnoordtrying to develop / research a linux kernel sound driver
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16:53.13rafaweboramahi guys
16:53.58AstainHellbringhi rafaweborama
16:54.27rafaweboramaAstainHellbring, do u synchronice ur pda with linux?
16:54.37rafaweboramai think on evolution...
16:54.45AstainHellbringno
16:54.49AstainHellbringexchange
16:55.39rafaweboramaexchange for linux?
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16:55.56rafaweboramais a dektop app?
16:56.08AstainHellbringno server app
16:56.14rafaweboramaoh
16:56.17AstainHellbringexchange server is they way I sync my stuff
16:56.24rafaweboramaoh
16:56.33rafaweboramawell i need a desk app
16:56.36rafaweborama:(
16:57.04rafaweboramathere to use a desk app like thunderbird?
16:58.42rafaweboramaups, ¿there no way to use a desk app like thunderbird?
16:59.15rafaweboramato syncronize cause i dont know, i never use a exchange to sync, do u have a wiki for it?
16:59.23AstainHellbringsync ce supposed to do something
17:05.49rafaweboramaok
17:06.04rafaweboramaAstainHellbring, what pda do u have?
17:07.05AstainHellbringrafaweborama I have a raph100 raph800 a htc dream a dell axim x51v
17:08.50rafaweboramaAstainHellbring, i have envy on u ¬¬
17:09.11AstainHellbringwhat you have?
17:09.13rafaweboramaim only have my Treo 650 and my qtek 9100
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17:09.42AstainHellbringI has a treo 755p and 700wx that I loaned to my brother
17:10.08rafaweboramai was think on buy an iphone but i prefeer a pda
17:10.35AstainHellbringyou'd hate iphone
17:10.54AstainHellbringI had one and traded it for a g1
17:11.31rafaweboramawhy?
17:11.49AstainHellbringI HATED the iphone was so slow and buggy
17:11.51rafaweboramawell i touch one and play somethings on it but is like a nice toy
17:11.57rafaweboramanot a pda
17:12.00rafaweboramaoh
17:12.16AstainHellbringyep 100% toy was only really good for games
17:12.48rafaweboramaon my qtek i have installed the SQl Server CE
17:12.56rafaweboramaand other great programming stuff
17:13.05rafaweboramai think the iphone cant do it :D
17:16.58rafaweboramai buy a old imate jam :P
17:17.20rafaweboramaand the camera of this is a far better than the (horrible) iphone
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18:16.35MikHelAnyone running Android on a HTC Touch Cruise?
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18:34.46j0b0pc_clk_enable: FIXME! enabling a clock that doesn't have an ena bit or ns-only offset: 12
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19:20.34captnoordre
19:32.46captnoordhmmm
19:32.46captnoord0x1012EF4
19:32.52captnoord0x1012EF8
19:33.04captnoord0x1012EFC
19:33.20captnoordk
19:33.23captnoordC = 12
19:33.26captnoord8 + 4
19:33.43captnoord0x1012EF4 | 0x1012EF8 = 0x1012EFC
19:33.51captnoordinteresting.....
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20:53.10J4k3hey, any of you know offhand if an HTC apache will "just charge and not argue" if I feed the USB pins +5V?
20:53.34MarajinI think all HTCs do but don't quote me on it
20:53.46J4k3has managed to kill his second ciggy plug charger.
20:53.55J4k3awesome.  I'll give it a try
20:54.09J4k3has a 7-36V -> 5V DC-DC regulator, 1.5A rated onhand
20:55.16captnoordlol
20:55.35J4k3now all I need a piece of black plastic to cover up my double-DIN to single-DIN adapter cubby hole..  I'll end up with two power-only USB jacks and my CB mounted in the dash :)
20:55.38captnoordwhy not with a 7805?
20:56.04J4k3I could, but the losses would be high when charging
20:56.05captnoordI like to keep things simple
20:56.15J4k3I'm hoping to keep this always-on
20:56.32J4k3the no-load current on this switcher is about 8mA
20:56.48J4k3well, the 7505's would be about the same really
20:57.07captnoordkinda....
20:57.12J4k3but, when charging off a 12V source into a 5V load, about 65% of the load turns into heat
20:57.18J4k3using a 7505
20:57.22captnoordyup
20:57.23J4k3switcher is >90% efficient
20:57.27captnoordyea
20:57.28captnoordtrue
20:57.39captnoordfocussus on KIS
20:57.42captnoordkeep it simple
20:57.43captnoordbut
20:57.45J4k3and this is a hyundai - I don't wanna give it an excuse to not start ;)
20:57.52captnoordhahahahahahahahaha
20:57.52captnoordk
20:57.55captnoordya got me
20:58.09J4k3sadly, its the quietest car I have RF-wise.
20:58.18J4k3hyundai stuck 0.1uf caps everywhere.
20:58.53J4k3the only part that whines is the AC condensor cooling fan
20:58.57captnoordhmmm I don't think that the lack of mobile reception is related with that
20:59.11J4k3well, I meant the CB ;)
20:59.13captnoordcondensor's can't wine
20:59.20captnoordthe only thing capable of wining
20:59.25captnoordis a coil
20:59.32captnoordwhich is the fan
20:59.45captnoordslaps
20:59.46captnoorddamn
20:59.49captnoordI didn't read correct
20:59.51captnoordarg
20:59.53captnoordsorry
21:00.04captnoordwine
21:00.06captnoordlol
21:00.09captnoordI need a drink
21:03.27J4k3hehe
21:04.16cr2new googel patches
21:04.26J4k3the best signal-thing that has happened for me on my apache is installing 1.41 radio code...  apparently the previous owner never did any maintenance.
21:04.59cr2J4k3: does the phone work on apache ? last time i've looked at the rilphone.dll it was a PITA.
21:05.05J4k3but I can't complain.  I paid $69 on ebay... and got $82 for the worthless-shit Moto Q I had before :)
21:05.32J4k3cr2: ahh nah, stuck with wm6.5 for now.  :(
21:06.20J4k3I'd love it to run linux.  I really need an SSH2 application that doesn't suck
21:07.02J4k3I'd love an iphone or a G1 but the GSM coverage here is really sketchy.  its CDMA or nothing.
21:07.31J4k3hell, tmo just erected a tower 3 miles away from me, and didn't bother hanging any antennas pointing my direction :P
21:12.03J4k3(and people wonder why I still carry 2M and CB in the car)
21:14.00cr2msm_rpc_connect/msm_rpc_call pair
21:16.38cr2+ *  CHARGER_EN (CPLD MISC2 bit[0]) is move to PMIC (MPP_14).
21:16.58cr2PMIC has its own gpios ? may be used on raph800 too.
21:17.36cr2lol
21:17.41cr2+       /* The charing operations are move to A9 in Sapphire. */
21:21.10captnoordnice
21:23.17cr2drivers/video/msm/mddi_client_nt35399.c
21:23.24cr2hehe. not epson.
21:23.34cr2but still a progress
21:27.39cr2omg
21:27.43cr2[ARM] msm: mdp: Add ability to apply gaussian blur via scale tables
21:41.19cr2BabelO: are you here ?
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22:26.47AstainHellbringJ4k3 iphone is garbage dude
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23:36.25J4k3AstainHellbring: well, yeah, but it has a functional ssh client
23:36.44J4k3pocketputty is >2 years out of date, and I refuse to spend >50% of what I spent on the phone on a commercial application :P
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