| 00:00.38 | cr2 | maejrep: i think you'd commit all the outstanding patches, so the poeple are not pleasantly surprised with HEAD :) |
| 00:02.40 | cr2 | duncang: btw, are you able to use vga cam ? |
| 00:02.54 | elf | allo maejrep. |
| 00:05.30 | duncang | cr2: not sure. The Android camera app probably only cares about the main cam. And it thinks I have no SD card. |
| 00:05.37 | duncang | cr2: where will the VGA be? |
| 00:05.48 | cr2 | duncang: in wince |
| 00:06.23 | duncang | No idea. Have used WinCE only to emulate usb mass storage and launch HaRET. |
| 00:06.39 | cr2 | hm. no SD card is strange. |
| 00:06.53 | cr2 | on universal there was a video phone button |
| 00:07.13 | cr2 | which enabled the pip vga cam, even if you have not used it |
| 00:07.31 | cr2 | to do a video call |
| 00:07.31 | duncang | Maybe having rootfs on an mmc partition confuses it re the SD card. |
| 00:07.42 | cr2 | but the raph wince gui is different. |
| 00:07.52 | cr2 | yes, probably |
| 00:08.13 | NetRipper | duncang, try creating an empty /sdcard directory in the root |
| 00:08.19 | NetRipper | then it should work |
| 00:08.20 | cr2 | to enable the nand driver we need to calculate the wince partition size first |
| 00:08.29 | duncang | NetRipper: there is one. |
| 00:08.45 | duncang | NetRipper: d--------- system system 2009-04-08 00:41 sdcard |
| 00:08.50 | NetRipper | ok |
| 00:09.06 | cr2 | strange permissions in android |
| 00:09.21 | dcordes_ | cr2: I think on non-A smd0 is silent when phone was off in wince |
| 00:09.22 | cr2 | hi NetRipper |
| 00:09.27 | NetRipper | hi :) |
| 00:09.51 | duncang | I have mounted /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /mmc type vfat and /dev/root on / type ext3 with root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 |
| 00:10.02 | cr2 | NetRipper: have you seen the msm_ts from android ? |
| 00:10.46 | NetRipper | cr2, no i haven't |
| 00:11.03 | cr2 | NetRipper: they even provide the register names now. |
| 00:11.05 | NetRipper | google made an implementation for our hardware? |
| 00:11.13 | NetRipper | do you have a link? |
| 00:11.16 | NetRipper | im curious |
| 00:11.17 | cr2 | for G2 |
| 00:11.31 | NetRipper | it's the same hardware then? |
| 00:11.36 | NetRipper | for ts |
| 00:13.31 | cr2 | yes |
| 00:13.36 | cr2 | can't find it now. |
| 00:13.42 | cr2 | looking deeper |
| 00:14.35 | NetRipper | is it the elan? |
| 00:16.00 | cr2 | no |
| 00:16.23 | cr2 | i've posted a like some days ago, but my logs ae on another hdd. |
| 00:17.44 | NetRipper | cant find it on android git |
| 00:17.55 | NetRipper | at least not by looking at summary's |
| 00:18.06 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:19.00 | cr2 | NetRipper: http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/experimental.git;a=commit;h=c07f398cbbcc8546d6d8ba529724f9459364645d |
| 00:19.36 | dcordes_ | I just looked at the histroy. seems like they hired more kernel hackers |
| 00:19.56 | NetRipper | thanks |
| 00:20.22 | NetRipper | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:20.23 | NetRipper | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:20.25 | NetRipper | lol |
| 00:20.44 | NetRipper | glad it wasnt something i missed :) |
| 00:20.58 | cr2 | :) |
| 00:21.26 | cr2 | dcordes_: they do some omap development too |
| 00:23.11 | dcordes_ | yea the experimental.git |
| 00:24.06 | dcordes_ | nicer hardware than msm |
| 00:24.37 | NetRipper | virtual key :o |
| 00:24.57 | NetRipper | and it even measure pressure |
| 00:25.00 | maejrep | ok, finally getting somewhere with smem batt driver |
| 00:25.12 | maejrep | been annoying me for months :/ |
| 00:30.22 | cr2 | maejrep: i'd like to fix the uart/bt . then move to sound. rpc sounds too scary. |
| 00:31.50 | NetRipper | so, for that msm_ts driver to work, android must be using some sort of calibration in the newer versions |
| 00:32.26 | cr2 | hehe |
| 00:34.52 | NetRipper | hm |
| 00:35.07 | NetRipper | ignore that |
| 00:35.15 | NetRipper | they have fixed values in the pdata |
| 00:35.40 | NetRipper | http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/experimental.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e8529f35aea38748426640088334b898616157e |
| 00:35.49 | NetRipper | the next commit is when they add it to swordfish |
| 00:37.13 | NetRipper | it's in the msm8k branch btw, so we dont know yet if the driver would work for our 7k series ;) |
| 00:37.22 | NetRipper | but looks good so far |
| 00:39.46 | cr2 | ok |
| 00:39.53 | cr2 | #ifdef CONFIG_SERIAL_MSM_RX_WAKEUP |
| 00:39.54 | NetRipper | what is the swordfish device? |
| 00:39.55 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:39.56 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:39.58 | cr2 | #endif |
| 00:40.10 | cr2 | eval baord from qcom ? |
| 00:40.19 | dcordes_ | msm8* evaluation board probably |
| 00:40.24 | NetRipper | ah |
| 00:40.37 | NetRipper | google has no hits for "htc swordfish".. which is fishy |
| 00:40.40 | NetRipper | :) |
| 00:41.10 | dcordes_ | for halibut there wasn't much info either |
| 00:41.28 | NetRipper | at least now they get directed to our logfiles |
| 00:41.28 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 00:41.55 | dcordes_ | true |
| 00:42.11 | NetRipper | thx for adding to topic btw |
| 00:42.11 | NetRipper | :) |
| 00:43.11 | NetRipper | im off to bed, night guys |
| 00:43.23 | cr2 | good night |
| 00:43.46 | cr2 | #ifdef CONFIG_SERIAL_MSM_RX_WAKEUP |
| 00:43.48 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:43.49 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:43.50 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:43.52 | cr2 | #endif |
| 00:43.58 | cr2 | this is g1 specific too |
| 00:44.02 | dcordes_ | good night NetRipper |
| 00:47.07 | maejrep | hmm, now it doesn't continue after finding the sd partitions |
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| 00:47.25 | maejrep | but it still detects when I unplug the charger cable, and plug it back in |
| 00:47.50 | cr2 | maejrep: raph800 usb init is not right. |
| 00:47.59 | maejrep | this used to work though :) |
| 00:48.12 | cr2 | just fyi |
| 00:48.20 | maejrep | i'm sure it's related to my battery driver, but I have no idea why |
| 00:48.38 | maejrep | what's wrong with the usb init? |
| 00:49.58 | cr2 | it's more complex than on raph100. which looks the same as g1 |
| 00:50.09 | cr2 | raph100=g1 |
| 00:51.03 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:51.05 | cr2 | uh |
| 00:51.12 | maejrep | lol |
| 00:51.45 | cr2 | we will set the only one know value anyway. |
| 00:52.27 | cr2 | well, does not look that bad to me. |
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| 00:52.59 | cr2 | we need to adjust the mdns logic for 115200 & 7372800 speed |
| 00:53.28 | cr2 | and the 115200 divisor values for uart seems to be hardcoded. |
| 00:54.08 | cr2 | only the uart_clk seems a bit uncertain, but we will see. |
| 00:54.58 | cr2 | the main task is to put the right pdata in the right place. |
| 00:55.06 | cr2 | i'm going to bed now too. |
| 00:55.08 | cr2 | good night |
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| 01:00.18 | elf | sees the fnords. |
| 01:07.44 | elf | woot, think im done with hignfy season 6. |
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| 01:44.28 | maejrep | ok, found the problem with the battery driver ;x |
| 01:44.58 | elf | woot. |
| 01:45.05 | elf | what was it? |
| 01:45.40 | maejrep | when I converted the existing rpc driver to get data from smem, I'd removed the mutex "rpc_lock", and replaced its use with the other standard lock |
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| 01:46.04 | maejrep | but hurried through one part of it, so it was trying to re-take the mutex lock in a function that was called while the lock was already taken |
| 01:46.11 | elf | ahhh. |
| 01:46.23 | elf | good catch, then. |
| 01:46.34 | maejrep | now to test it ;x |
| 01:46.35 | elf | hands maejrep a fork. |
| 01:46.42 | maejrep | lol |
| 01:46.46 | elf | grins. |
| 01:47.11 | elf | goes back to sorting approximately 400,000 sheets of paper. |
| 01:47.30 | elf | (all my remaining paper files) |
| 01:47.47 | maejrep | hmm, bubble sort with paper |
| 01:47.50 | elf | id really like a scanning+ocr camera driver. would make my life much easier. |
| 01:47.52 | elf | laughs. |
| 01:48.03 | elf | nah, more like 'does this pertain to ee? maths? bio? cs? |
| 01:48.11 | elf | or is it a personal item?' |
| 01:48.59 | elf | (or chem, physics, religion, history, english, psych, or philosophy (who are people who should not be dined with, cf fork)) |
| 01:49.10 | maejrep | cr2: still get random hangs :( there are like 3 key points during boot where it might hang |
| 01:49.13 | elf | has altogether too many papers. |
| 01:49.49 | elf | if the world werent so interesting, i wouldnt accumulate so many papers. |
| 01:49.52 | elf | blames the world. |
| 01:50.11 | maejrep | i don't bother with paper anymore |
| 01:50.17 | elf | well, im trying to convert it. |
| 01:50.40 | elf | once my directfb port works for the raph800, ill be using it as one of my primary filing systems, actually. |
| 01:50.59 | elf | many years ago, i wrote electronic-notebook software for the fujitsu stylistic 1000. |
| 01:51.05 | elf | including the touchscreen driver. |
| 01:52.02 | elf | its kinda sad, really, as the raph800 is a processor about 500kX more powerful with 80+X the storage and 100X the ram. |
| 01:52.22 | elf | and cost 1/8th as much. |
| 01:52.31 | elf | is old. |
| 01:52.42 | elf | anyway, back to work. happy hacking, all. |
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| 03:58.40 | tmzt | zinx in #android has successfully booted 2.6.29 on g1 |
| 04:04.31 | maejrep | [ 11.860358] [BATT] charger ON (SLOW) |
| 04:05.41 | maejrep | the irq isn't triggering a charger-cable change though |
| 04:06.04 | maejrep | would have to be polled and then it would detect the change |
| 04:06.36 | maejrep | would hope that this at least keeps the battery from running out while it's plugged in |
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| 05:13.03 | gundaz | hello-lo |
| 05:13.14 | tmzt | maejrep: still here? I got caught up on the logs |
| 05:15.28 | mickeyl | so is HEAD bootable on raph100 again? |
| 05:15.32 | mickeyl | good morning, btw. |
| 05:18.45 | tmzt | it looks like it but I'm having trouble following |
| 05:21.11 | mickeyl | looks like last night brought some clock fixes, an accelerometer driver, and charging |
| 05:21.32 | mickeyl | and perhaps the missing smd7 node |
| 05:21.42 | mickeyl | but i can't test that right now |
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| 06:12.42 | mickeyl | ok, HEAD still broken |
| 06:12.52 | mickeyl | same crash at wince clock 19 |
| 06:16.39 | mickeyl | at least for booting from SD |
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| 08:36.15 | tmzt | mickeyl: did you disable wifi in windows? |
| 08:36.31 | tmzt | not sure if it's necessary but was mentioned |
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| 09:18.26 | cr2 | good morning |
| 09:19.07 | cr2 | mickeyl: i don't see any fixes committed to git |
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| 09:59.24 | duncang | mickeyl: "HEAD still broken same crash at wince clock 19 at least for booting from SD" I'm booting my raph120 from SD with HEAD plus a couple of tiny changes. The critical one for the clock crash is cr2's: --- a/arch/arm/mach-msm/clock-wince.c +++ b/arch/arm/mach-msm/clock-wince.c @@ -159,7 +159,7 @@ static int set_mdns_host_clock(uint32_t id, unsigned long freq) found = 1; retval = 0; } else { - for (n = ARRAY_SIZE(msm_clock_freq_parameters); n > |
| 09:59.24 | duncang | lock_freq_parameters)-1; n >= 0; n--) { if (freq >= msm_clock_freq_parameters[n].freq) { // This clock requires MD and NS regs to set frequency: writel(msm_clock_freq_parameters[n].md, MSM_CLK_CTL_BASE + offset - 4); |
| 09:59.39 | duncang | sees mess where patch should have been. |
| 09:59.55 | duncang | --- a/arch/arm/mach-msm/clock-wince.c+++ b/arch/arm/mach-msm/clock-wince.c@@ -159,7 +159,7 @@ static int set_mdns_host_clock(uint32_t id, unsigned long freq) found = 1; retval = 0; } else {- for (n = ARRAY_SIZE(msm_clock_freq_parameters); n >= 0; n--) {+ for (n = ARRAY_SIZE(msm_clock_freq_parameters)-1; n >= 0; n--) { if (freq >= msm_clock_freq_parameters[n].fr |
| 09:59.55 | duncang | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:00.07 | duncang | That's better. |
| 10:00.50 | tmzt | patch for mickeyl? |
| 10:01.00 | tmzt | ok |
| 10:02.55 | duncang | Reposting cr2's from 23:09 yesterday. |
| 10:03.19 | duncang | It's obviously correct. |
| 10:03.45 | duncang | And better still, Works For Me ;-) |
| 10:04.41 | tmzt | does somebody have a zImage with raph800 but without smd7500? |
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| 10:18.36 | duncang | maejrep: is your battery charger driver available anywhere yet? |
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| 10:29.56 | elf | (when did google buy grandcentral?) |
| 10:36.50 | cr2 | duncang: i think it's more a battery monitor driver |
| 10:37.46 | cr2 | the generic PDA battery driver needs only AC and USB charge enable gpios |
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| 10:38.39 | cr2 | you only need to find out the pin combinations for all 4 states (not charging,USB,AC,charged) |
| 10:39.31 | cr2 | the battery monitor has a bit different function |
| 10:41.19 | elf | anyone here able to read chinese? |
| 10:41.39 | elf | .rar supposedly with msm6280 spec. |
| 10:41.45 | elf | but i cant grab it in lynx. |
| 10:47.47 | elf | buncha design pdfs on this site. |
| 10:47.52 | elf | cant register cause i cant read chinese. |
| 10:49.29 | elf | msm7501a software interface .pdf |
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| 10:49.44 | elf | someone who can read chinese, or knows someone who can read chinese, please contact. |
| 10:50.38 | elf | qsc6010 spec |
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| 11:30.11 | duncang | cr2: The GPIOs look reasonably documented: http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Raphael_GPIO |
| 11:30.31 | duncang | Does anyone have a GPIO-flipping utility for Linux? |
| 11:30.48 | cr2 | duncang: board-htcraphael.h from yesterday |
| 11:30.59 | cr2 | duncang: use haret |
| 11:31.22 | captnoord | and telnet client |
| 11:31.33 | cr2 | 'watch gpios' in haretconsole |
| 11:31.57 | duncang | cr2: Of course. HaRET over wifi will be able to see the USB connecting and disconnecting. |
| 11:32.33 | cr2 | yes. you may even mmutrace the ULPI stuff |
| 11:33.08 | cr2 | and usb. but it's a bit different story |
| 11:33.36 | cr2 | i need to setup the AP first. |
| 11:33.43 | cr2 | to be able to do such things |
| 11:34.32 | duncang | cr2: here's one I made earlier... |
| 11:35.17 | duncang | Hmmm Why is GPIO 9 so noisey? |
| 11:35.30 | cr2 | we need better usb operation traces |
| 11:36.01 | cr2 | 9 ? |
| 11:36.41 | duncang | Seem to be doing while(1){ |
| 11:36.41 | duncang | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:36.41 | duncang | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:36.41 | duncang | } |
| 11:37.28 | cr2 | mask the cam gpios |
| 11:37.30 | tmzt | are you using haretconsole? |
| 11:37.34 | cr2 | they are useless anyway |
| 11:37.35 | duncang | Telnet |
| 11:37.44 | cr2 | use 'console' |
| 11:37.50 | tmzt | that's just the bank I think |
| 11:38.07 | cr2 | python script in haretconsole/ |
| 11:38.42 | cr2 | tmzt: it'd strange that the MCLK is enabled |
| 11:39.15 | tmzt | sorry? |
| 11:39.46 | tmzt | what is MCLK? |
| 11:39.59 | cr2 | 15 0x0f 1c4,1c0 15 O CAM MCLK |
| 11:40.06 | cr2 | int bank0 |
| 11:40.15 | duncang | checks out haret cvs |
| 11:40.57 | tmzt | recent handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret |
| 11:41.02 | tmzt | has haretconsole |
| 11:41.21 | duncang | Got it from hh.org CVS. |
| 11:41.25 | tmzt | ok |
| 11:41.37 | tmzt | they should match though |
| 11:42.30 | duncang | 028.302 GPIOS in4: in4-2(290)=1 |
| 11:42.30 | duncang | 028.581 GPIOS in4: in4-2(290)=0 |
| 11:42.53 | duncang | Is that "LCD vsync?" |
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| 11:53.21 | cr2 | vertical sync signal |
| 11:53.24 | cr2 | mask it |
| 11:53.53 | duncang | cr2: Yeah done. Think I have sensible traces for connect/disconnect AC charger. |
| 11:54.02 | duncang | cr2: comparing with wiki now. |
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| 12:01.08 | duncang | For me, with battery full, 3-22 goes low when AC is connected. Then Windows sets 0-1 high (draw 900mA) and 2-1 low (enable charging). |
| 12:01.20 | duncang | Unplugging is the reverse of pluggin in ;-) |
| 12:01.28 | duncang | Now try USB charge... |
| 12:02.08 | cr2 | 900mA comes from maejrep, i don't know where does it come. |
| 12:04.07 | duncang | Taking USB charge from host looks similar, but 4-5 goes high on connect instead of 3-22 going low. |
| 12:04.26 | duncang | Comparing with WinCE configured not to charge from host USB. |
| 12:05.34 | tmzt | it can't get that from pc can it? |
| 12:05.50 | cr2 | tmzt: you can disable it |
| 12:05.54 | cr2 | on raph |
| 12:05.57 | tmzt | 900mA |
| 12:06.01 | duncang | Yep. 4-5 goes high when host USB connected. |
| 12:06.11 | tmzt | should overvoltage/current |
| 12:06.28 | cr2 | usb host spec is >500mA |
| 12:06.33 | duncang | tmzt: USB spec allows the device to draw 500mA. Hence Raph needs to regulate its draw depending what it's charging from. |
| 12:07.41 | tmzt | and the new 2.6.29 allows these values to be set for enumeration right? |
| 12:08.08 | cr2 | tmzt: even hh.org kernel respected them to some extent |
| 12:08.27 | tmzt | on pxa? |
| 12:08.36 | tmzt | I mean on msm-A |
| 12:09.03 | cr2 | tmzt: ok |
| 12:09.08 | tmzt | just something from the log, I guess the function driver did too |
| 12:09.16 | cr2 | tmzt: yes, on pxa |
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| 12:09.27 | Untouchab1e | Hi all :) |
| 12:09.37 | tmzt | hello |
| 12:11.15 | tmzt | Untouchab1e: how do extract system.img |
| 12:11.36 | tmzt | the one built by android is yaffs2 |
| 12:12.04 | tmzt | trying to see how to adapt zinx's master build to raph |
| 12:12.43 | cr2 | tmzt: the .29 kernel ? |
| 12:12.58 | tmzt | for which? |
| 12:13.13 | cr2 | dcordes_ and maejrep have disappeared, nobody can fix the .27 head ;) |
| 12:13.18 | cr2 | for raph |
| 12:13.18 | tmzt | it might have been experimental but I think they share some commits |
| 12:13.59 | tmzt | well, zinx was using it on g1 but switched back to.27 due to virtual memory issues |
| 12:14.26 | cr2 | ok |
| 12:14.27 | tmzt | I mean userland though |
| 12:15.23 | Untouchab1e | Ah, maejrep is back :D |
| 12:17.27 | tmzt | was last night |
| 12:17.36 | Untouchab1e | Cool! |
| 12:17.39 | Untouchab1e | Good to have him back |
| 12:19.00 | Untouchab1e | I have a guy here who is trying to build up the latest cupcake build for his Diamond.. he has managed to get the android init running and he has mounted the ext2 images from mmcblk directly, but.. |
| 12:19.21 | Untouchab1e | when android is booting and starts, it performs an automatic shutdown due to "empty battery".. |
| 12:19.34 | Untouchab1e | since the necessary kernel modules for acpi battery support are missing |
| 12:19.48 | Untouchab1e | how can he simulate a full battery or a connected charger? |
| 12:19.52 | tmzt | they use acpi? |
| 12:20.14 | Untouchab1e | Not sure myself, but that's what he's saying |
| 12:20.30 | tmzt | maybe apm but don't think so |
| 12:20.51 | tmzt | there's probably a service in ini.rc that could be commented out |
| 12:20.52 | Untouchab1e | hmm.. but the problem still remains |
| 12:21.10 | cr2 | they use some 'android power' whatever that is |
| 12:22.27 | Untouchab1e | ah |
| 12:22.38 | Untouchab1e | so, just have to look at the ini.rc then? |
| 12:22.44 | tmzt | init.rc |
| 12:22.53 | Untouchab1e | init.rc* |
| 12:22.57 | Untouchab1e | cool, thanks for the tip |
| 12:26.11 | Untouchab1e | cr2, how is the wiki-port to htc-linux.org going? |
| 12:27.26 | Untouchab1e | Btw, anyone have any insight on this? --> http://www.htc-android.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=173 |
| 12:27.31 | Untouchab1e | Have no clue myself |
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| 12:29.51 | duncang | untouchable: raph research wiki port is complete (I think). What do people most need next? |
| 12:32.55 | Untouchab1e | Well, I still think we could use the htc-android.com forums for development discussion ^^ |
| 12:34.09 | cr2 | duncang: if it's not too difficult http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=AthenaResearch |
| 12:34.42 | cr2 | Untouchab1e: try to match the rpc numbers with the MSM_RPC wiki page |
| 12:36.24 | Untouchab1e | cool |
| 12:36.30 | Untouchab1e | thanks, cr2 |
| 12:36.58 | Untouchab1e | got an url for the MSM_RPC wiki page? |
| 12:37.00 | Untouchab1e | new or old? |
| 12:37.05 | duncang | http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=MSM_RPC |
| 12:37.24 | Untouchab1e | thanks |
| 12:38.08 | cr2 | duncang: raph and athena are the two most technically advanced htc devices. |
| 12:39.17 | duncang | cr2: OK. |
| 12:39.38 | duncang | Untouchable: rpc matches look good. There is new info in the forum post. |
| 12:42.02 | Untouchab1e | huh? which post? |
| 12:42.07 | cr2 | 30000010 is missing |
| 12:42.16 | Untouchab1e | where? |
| 12:42.47 | cr2 | some function names are more or less clear, like snd_ ,nv_ or clk_ |
| 12:42.49 | duncang | http://www.htc-android.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=173 has 0x3000001F (SECUTILPROG, SECUTILVERS and 0x30000021 (PM_STROBE_FLASHPROG, PM_STROBE_FLASHVERS, etc |
| 12:42.56 | cr2 | but the others are more cryptic |
| 12:43.16 | Untouchab1e | so, the advice would be? |
| 12:43.22 | Untouchab1e | maybe you could reply to the post? |
| 12:44.16 | cr2 | 30000043 is missing |
| 12:44.30 | Untouchab1e | and 30000010? |
| 12:46.27 | cr2 | 0x30000010 (RDEVMAPPROG |
| 12:46.36 | cr2 | 0x30000043 (RFMPROG, RFMVERS, |
| 12:46.49 | cr2 | but they are not in rpc dll |
| 12:46.55 | duncang | lavender.t's experiment should be repeatable on my raph120. Don't have time now, but maybe later. |
| 12:46.56 | cr2 | maybe i missed them |
| 12:49.23 | Untouchab1e | Cool, thanks |
| 12:51.05 | cr2 | "Do you know what amss version have our devices? older than 6210, newer than 6225" |
| 12:51.16 | cr2 | our amss is 52XX |
| 12:51.46 | cr2 | which is, of course, not covered by the g1 kernel code |
| 12:53.26 | Untouchab1e | hah |
| 12:53.28 | Untouchab1e | off course |
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| 12:56.51 | cr2 | i'm editing MSM_RPC |
| 12:57.02 | cr2 | to add the missing lines |
| 12:57.13 | Untouchab1e | Cool |
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| 13:03.32 | cr2 | a lot of them are never used though |
| 13:05.08 | fnord_ | yoh....linux on dream, or linux on winphones? :P |
| 13:05.50 | cr2 | fnord_: linux on a better hardware than g1 ;) |
| 13:06.36 | fnord_ | yeah i've discovered the joys of the trackball sticking |
| 13:07.27 | fnord_ | what sortof window manager / gui does one use on a linux'ed winphone o.o |
| 13:07.43 | fnord_ | and you're able to access the radio etc etc? |
| 13:08.24 | fnord_ | , growing tired of java sluggishness |
| 13:08.33 | cr2 | fnord_: it depends on the phone |
| 13:09.09 | cr2 | blame googel for java ;) |
| 13:10.08 | fnord_ | eh, best case scenario |
| 13:10.10 | cr2 | heh, but this channel is about linux, not java |
| 13:11.13 | fnord_ | yeah. there's a voice in my head whispering of the possibilitys of turning the phone android mess into more of an application. not that i have the time or knowledge of dream's hardware mind you |
| 13:11.24 | cr2 | you may use gpe-phone,qtopia,android or whatever mickeyl is doing :) |
| 13:12.04 | ellisway | hi all |
| 13:12.14 | cr2 | hi ellisway |
| 13:12.17 | fnord_ | So, basically...best case scenario, what's used for dialing / sms / alerts / gui, if the entire os gets replaced? |
| 13:12.21 | cr2 | http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=MSM_RPC |
| 13:12.26 | cr2 | looks much better now |
| 13:12.40 | cr2 | but needs paramters |
| 13:14.14 | mickeyl | fnord_: FSO middleware, SHR or Openmoko UI |
| 13:14.18 | mickeyl | hi guys |
| 13:15.09 | fnord_ | googles |
| 13:15.29 | mickeyl | FSO: freesmartphone.org |
| 13:15.32 | mickeyl | SHR: shr-project.org |
| 13:15.37 | mickeyl | Openmoko: openmoko.org |
| 13:15.57 | mickeyl | with the added bonus of when you're using any FSO based UI, you can mix and match apps |
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| 13:16.18 | mickeyl | that is, if the kernel provides enough support for the middleware.... ;) |
| 13:17.38 | fnord_ | oh nice |
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| 13:21.22 | cr2 | mickeyl: can you patch clock-wince.c and boot hEAD ? |
| 13:22.01 | mickeyl | can you pastebin the patch, please? |
| 13:22.09 | cr2 | mickeyl: i have smd7 here. |
| 13:22.10 | cr2 | ok |
| 13:22.13 | cr2 | git diff |
| 13:22.20 | cr2 | of my local tree |
| 13:22.40 | mickeyl | ah well |
| 13:22.43 | mickeyl | if you have git diff |
| 13:22.45 | mickeyl | please mail it :) |
| 13:22.52 | mickeyl | mickey@vanille-media.de |
| 13:23.04 | mickeyl | i have some time now, can test right now |
| 13:23.36 | cr2 | pastebin, i don't have e-mail no |
| 13:24.48 | cr2 | https://privatepaste.com/2fmplsmyx6 |
| 13:25.51 | dcordes_ | hi |
| 13:25.52 | dcordes_ | cr2: what about htc-linux email? |
| 13:26.10 | cr2 | dcordes_: have not tried it yet |
| 13:26.31 | cr2 | dcordes_: you may commit this patch anyway |
| 13:27.05 | dcordes_ | ok what's the shortlog line? |
| 13:27.31 | cr2 | hmm |
| 13:28.21 | cr2 | it's an off-by-one bug leading to a kernel crash |
| 13:28.49 | cr2 | on trying to set the MD/NS clock registers |
| 13:29.04 | dcordes_ | it fixes raph100 booting? |
| 13:30.14 | cr2 | yes |
| 13:30.36 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 13:30.39 | mickeyl | this is against HEAD? |
| 13:30.42 | mickeyl | fails to apply here |
| 13:30.56 | mickeyl | let me handapply it |
| 13:31.10 | dcordes_ | Hunk #1 FAILED at 159. |
| 13:31.10 | dcordes_ | Hunk #2 FAILED at 183. |
| 13:31.21 | cr2 | weird |
| 13:31.28 | mickeyl | ya, same here |
| 13:31.49 | mickeyl | perhaps corrupted by pastebin tab/space? |
| 13:32.06 | cr2 | git pull |
| 13:32.08 | cr2 | Already up-to-date. |
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| 13:32.28 | cr2 | and i don't see any new patches at linuxtogo |
| 13:33.20 | cr2 | the raph-gsensor.c patch is obvious |
| 13:33.34 | cr2 | and there are 2 more one-line patches |
| 13:35.45 | dcordes_ | yes |
| 13:35.54 | dcordes_ | I applied it manually. somebody boot the zImage to confirm? |
| 13:36.14 | cr2 | mickeyl :) |
| 13:36.40 | cr2 | at least it worked for me and duncang |
| 13:37.01 | cr2 | the bug is acked by maejrep, and the code is obviously wrong. |
| 13:37.39 | mickeyl | *compilig* |
| 13:39.32 | dcordes_ | that's creepy. I did a git diff with the patch applied manually and comparing it to cr2 patch file they both look the same :O |
| 13:43.21 | cr2 | hehe |
| 13:43.25 | cr2 | MISC_MODEM_APIS_NONWINMOB |
| 13:43.56 | dcordes_ | cr2: may I push? |
| 13:44.27 | cr2 | i thin so |
| 13:45.14 | mickeyl | can't get worse, so go for it ;) |
| 13:45.20 | mickeyl | copying kernel over to SD |
| 13:45.45 | cr2 | lol |
| 13:46.10 | dcordes_ | linuxtogo is in warp9 mode |
| 13:46.33 | Marajin | notihng wrong with that |
| 13:46.39 | cr2 | i'll uuencode patches then |
| 13:46.44 | Marajin | dcordes_: any sign of your kovsky returning yet? |
| 13:47.39 | dcordes_ | it was only away one weekend. they replaced the housing |
| 13:47.50 | fnord_ | now that i've discovered they stubbed all of libdl's functions in android, i have something to do >< goodnight, and thanks for infos :P |
| 13:47.58 | Marajin | dcordes_: oh cool |
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| 13:51.15 | dcordes_ | Marajin: we could add it in the htc-msm-2.6.27 branch in order to have the sd and gpio configuration done correctly |
| 13:51.36 | Marajin | dcordes_: you could, I don't tihnk I know enough about what's going on there right now to do it |
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| 13:52.49 | mickeyl | "Booting... please wait" |
| 13:52.58 | dcordes_ | wtf |
| 13:52.59 | dcordes_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:53.00 | dcordes_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:53.06 | dcordes_ | where does that \r come from? |
| 13:53.37 | Marajin | beats me but being after the ; it seems kinda superfluous |
| 13:54.08 | cr2 | dcordes_: i'm using debian here. |
| 13:55.19 | mickeyl | i wonder why i still have no smd1 nor smd7 though |
| 13:55.25 | mickeyl | but i can log in the kernel |
| 13:55.38 | mickeyl | do i need to enable more in the defconfig for the additional device nodes? |
| 13:55.54 | mickeyl | dcordes_: are we using a private devtable? |
| 13:55.56 | cr2 | mickeyl: i've used the initrd made by dcordes_ |
| 13:55.56 | mickeyl | [for the msm] |
| 13:56.48 | mickeyl | lcd brightness control broken |
| 13:56.58 | mickeyl | could be moved to backlight class instead of fixing ;) |
| 13:57.21 | cr2 | now, or was always broken |
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| 13:57.25 | mickeyl | now |
| 13:57.30 | cr2 | hm. |
| 13:57.33 | mickeyl | worked in HEAD^5 |
| 13:57.36 | mickeyl | (or so) |
| 13:57.46 | cr2 | must be something else |
| 13:58.09 | cr2 | need to ask maejrep |
| 13:58.19 | mickeyl | k, no biggie |
| 13:58.29 | mickeyl | ok, i create smd7 manually |
| 13:58.33 | mickeyl | lets try gprs again |
| 13:58.37 | cr2 | :) |
| 13:59.07 | cr2 | battery charging seems to be not far away |
| 13:59.20 | mickeyl | great |
| 13:59.36 | mickeyl | dare i hope for some power class devices as well? ;) |
| 13:59.44 | dcordes_ | it seems we have the perfect android device in no time! |
| 13:59.56 | mickeyl | heh |
| 13:59.58 | mickeyl | optimist... |
| 14:00.23 | cr2 | dcordes_: no f* words please :) |
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| 14:00.37 | dcordes_ | glad they didn't keep tmzt |
| 14:00.41 | cr2 | mickeyl: the PDA power driver should work if the gpios are added. |
| 14:01.23 | dcordes_ | tmzt: did you look into framework CDMA patches yet? |
| 14:07.53 | mickeyl | ok, that doesn't look too shabby. after creating smd7 manually, there _is_ some kind of activity going on when i connect |
| 14:07.59 | mickeyl | need to spend some hours with wifey now |
| 14:08.08 | mickeyl | but later on, will check with frameworkd |
| 14:08.12 | mickeyl | great progress so far, thanks guys |
| 14:08.57 | cr2 | mickeyl became quiet. for a while :) |
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| 14:49.56 | dcordes_ | cr2: any further patches? |
| 14:51.07 | cr2 | no, i'd like to wait for maejrep |
| 14:52.13 | cr2 | dcordes_: we may enable the adsp and rpcservers in defconfig |
| 14:52.23 | cr2 | dcordes_: but it also needs some testing |
| 14:54.56 | cr2 | dcordes_: we may even enable nand. for non-android people of course :) |
| 14:57.05 | cr2 | time for htcraphael_defconfig and htcraphael_android__defconfig |
| 15:01.25 | Untouchab1e | bbl :) |
| 15:10.33 | dcordes_ | cr2: yes that will be better |
| 15:10.56 | dcordes_ | cr2: it's also good for autobuilding like with OE |
| 15:11.04 | dcordes_ | we don't need to hardcode the defconfigs any longer then |
| 15:35.43 | dcordes | bbl |
| 15:38.59 | cr2 | kiozen: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2009-April/042652.html |
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| 15:54.25 | brumbrum | How closely related are Raphael and Blackstone? Is the things you are working on now on the Raphael-device also going to work on the Blackstone? |
| 15:59.36 | cr2 | brumbrum: yes, with some modifications |
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| 16:02.23 | brumbrum | cool :-). On Wensday I am gonna get a secutiry unlocked X1 Prototype to start to work on a flashable image of android. :-) |
| 16:04.36 | brumbrum | Unfortinutly I can only work on it on wensdays on the sony ericsson office that I used to work on before... |
| 16:08.00 | brumbrum | The big diffrence between raphael, X1 and blackstone is the screen right? Other diffrences are small? Am I right? |
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| 16:11.25 | wirelessdreamer | anyone around with android on raphael? |
| 16:11.42 | wirelessdreamer | or angstrom |
| 16:11.59 | duncang | Android on raph120 here. |
| 16:12.35 | wirelessdreamer | would you considier it useable as a basic phone at this point?, sounds like I could get by with it as it currently stands |
| 16:13.08 | duncang | No. We need sound, and to be able to charge the battery. |
| 16:13.18 | wirelessdreamer | also if anyone knows, does clutter work on it under angstrom |
| 16:13.22 | duncang | It is quite a flash way to send SMS, though ;-) |
| 16:14.36 | wirelessdreamer | when its plugged in does it use wall power and leave the battery alone? |
| 16:15.05 | brumbrum | duncang: The radio-part of the code is working fine then? :-) GPRS/GSM and 3G? |
| 16:15.30 | duncang | Currently it uses the battery (only), even if AC or USB is connected. |
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| 16:16.26 | wirelessdreamer | no where in proc I can echo something to change the state? ;) |
| 16:16.37 | duncang | brumbrum: GSM works - calls can be placed and received (silently). SMS works. |
| 16:17.15 | duncang | brumbrum: general opinion seems to be that /dev/smd7 should be the GPRS modem, but I can get nothing from it on my device. |
| 16:17.45 | brumbrum | Okey, so some parts more needed. But isn't the radio in raph and dream the same? Shouldn't the code from google work already? Or is there some other things that is diffrent? |
| 16:17.48 | wirelessdreamer | do you know if the battery issue is not sure what to do, or just needs time to do xxx |
| 16:21.01 | duncang | wirelessdreamer: maejrep is working on a battery state monitor (native, I think). Mods to Google's RPC-based battery driver look fairly simple to me, so I might try when I have RPC going.. |
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| 16:22.23 | duncang | Just booted with the RPC patch enabled. Have lots of servers; not entirely sure what to mknod or how to see what works... |
| 16:23.52 | brumbrum | Amazing you get things to work without documentation! :-) You guys are really good at C-programming! I am more of a Java/C#-guy even if I code C right now at work |
| 16:25.45 | cr2 | duncang: good for sms spam |
| 16:26.28 | cr2 | brumbrum: the radio hardware is the same as on g1, but the radio software is different. |
| 16:27.26 | brumbrum | Ahh! Thats sad. I guess you will brick the phone if you change radio-software to the one that is used in dream? |
| 16:27.26 | cr2 | wirelessdreamer: battery charging involves just 3 gpios. but not to overchanrge the battery needs the battery monitor |
| 16:28.01 | cr2 | it's not so easy as you think |
| 16:28.31 | cr2 | even if you will not brick the radio with this reflash, which software are you going to use on the arm11 side ? |
| 16:29.52 | cr2 | g1 kernel will not work, because it's a different hardware. so you need to do heavy modifications to it anyway. |
| 16:29.53 | brumbrum | nothing is easy... sadly. I have never said it was easy. The arm11-cpu(s?) uses diffrent code also on the devices? (2 cores? right?) |
| 16:30.16 | cr2 | yes |
| 16:30.36 | cr2 | arm9+mdsp is radio |
| 16:31.00 | cr2 | and arm11+qdsp is for applications. |
| 16:31.47 | brumbrum | okey. Almost like the A2-platform we used at SEMC when I was developing there... |
| 16:32.25 | brumbrum | but this is much more complicated |
| 16:33.17 | brumbrum | So, the radio-part needs to be rewritten to work as it does in WinCE? I suppose there is no documentation about this? |
| 16:33.47 | brumbrum | GPRS-part... |
| 16:34.19 | duncang | Hmmm... [RR] o NEW_SERVER id=0:00000001 prog=3000006b:0 |
| 16:34.31 | duncang | That's new... |
| 16:34.48 | cr2 | 6b |
| 16:34.49 | brumbrum | Sounds like something to look into. Gonna ask some of my friends working over at SEMC to see if they can find any documentation about it to let me look at. |
| 16:34.56 | cr2 | duncang: add to wiki |
| 16:36.12 | cr2 | duncang: i don't have the id for MISC_MODEM_APIS_NONWINMOB |
| 16:36.24 | duncang | [RR] o NEW_SERVER id=0:00000001 prog=30000053:0 |
| 16:37.27 | duncang | [RR] o NEW_SERVER id=0:00000001 prog=3000001b:0 |
| 16:37.28 | cr2 | already added |
| 16:37.41 | cr2 | yeah, maybe this one |
| 16:37.43 | duncang | cr2: By me, just now ;-) |
| 16:37.53 | brumbrum | Sorry, but another stupid question: Is all code from google released in the kernel to the Dream? Or do they include any kernel-drivers as binary modules that is loaded during boot? |
| 16:37.58 | cr2 | ok |
| 16:38.58 | duncang | I also have 59 and 5a |
| 16:39.16 | cr2 | brumbrum: they may mmap some mmio space. but afaik there are no pure binary modules. |
| 16:40.05 | brumbrum | okey. Thanks for all answers! :D |
| 16:40.20 | cr2 | duncang: you are not obliged to use them though. |
| 16:40.34 | cr2 | duncang: gps uses pdsm_* |
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| 16:40.44 | Untouchab1e | Hi al |
| 16:41.09 | duncang | cr2: [RR] x NEW_SERVER id=1:c5468c20 prog=30000015:1931454247 |
| 16:41.25 | cr2 | duncang: and for sound we need to upload A and B tables into sram, and to some DEX audio call magic. |
| 16:41.25 | duncang | cr2: [RR] x NEW_SERVER id=1:c5468c20 prog=3000005d:-1845319452 |
| 16:41.39 | Untouchab1e | what are we working on? |
| 16:41.42 | cr2 | duncang: weird |
| 16:42.05 | cr2 | Untouchab1e: ask orux about MISC_MODEM_APIS_NONWINMOBPROG RPC |
| 16:42.13 | Untouchab1e | Will do.. |
| 16:42.19 | Untouchab1e | il send him a PM |
| 16:42.23 | cr2 | ok |
| 16:42.25 | Untouchab1e | anything more specific to ask him? |
| 16:42.34 | cr2 | no |
| 16:42.43 | Untouchab1e | hehe, ok |
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| 16:43.43 | duncang | cr2: [RR] x NEW_SERVER id=1:c5468b00 prog=3000000b:0 |
| 16:44.03 | duncang | Anyone else got this "id=1:..." stuff? |
| 16:44.47 | Untouchab1e | pm sent |
| 16:46.35 | cr2 | ok |
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| 16:48.12 | cr2 | hi BabelO |
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| 16:50.03 | [1]Untouchab1e | so, are we getting somewhere? |
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| 16:53.34 | BabelO | hi cr2 |
| 16:56.20 | [1]Untouchab1e | Anyone know how similar the Touch Pro and Touch Pro 2 is hardware wise? |
| 16:58.17 | cr2 | [1]Untouchab1e: somebody should run haret on it, and dump the SPL |
| 16:58.21 | brumbrum | I cant get it: Why do they release a new Touch Pro, instead of selling applications and upgrade/upgrades to the ones that is already produced? They could do like Apple with IPhone and still do profit :-( |
| 16:58.39 | cr2 | BabelO: any new qlm version ? do you have sample maps ? |
| 16:59.13 | BabelO | cr2: there is a new version i ve built on my ftp for you |
| 16:59.27 | BabelO | cr2: you can create sample maps from gt |
| 16:59.37 | BabelO | just use export |
| 16:59.55 | cr2 | BabelO: pm, i'll try |
| 17:00.02 | Untouchab1e | brumbrum, what kind of applications would HTC sell? Updated TF3D? |
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| 17:00.26 | Untouchab1e | If the Touch Pro 2 had a capacitive touch screen and maybe even bother to make an Android version, it would have been amazing.. but no.. |
| 17:00.27 | brumbrum | Untouchable: Third part applications |
| 17:00.45 | Untouchab1e | the HTC Fiesta will be interesting though |
| 17:01.29 | brumbrum | HTC Fiesta, what is that? Not read about that one yet |
| 17:02.00 | Untouchab1e | http://www.htc-android.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=192 |
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| 17:04.10 | brumbrum | no details yet... :-( |
| 17:04.24 | Untouchab1e | nope, but intersting that it exists.. or may exist |
| 17:04.40 | brumbrum | I hope they release an android-device that is so close related to Blackstone that it will be easy to port android to blackstone soon :-) |
| 17:05.07 | Untouchab1e | We have the G1, and now the Magic which is basically the G1 without a qwerty.. So now I am hoping for a new increment in the Android-series which will finally give Android a device that is worth getting |
| 17:05.13 | Untouchab1e | I doubt it will happen though |
| 17:05.41 | Untouchab1e | HTC has apparently decided that its high-end phones will be Windows Mobile devices, and the the phones running Android will be "low-end" phones |
| 17:05.49 | brumbrum | G1 is to plastic. They should made it like they made X1 |
| 17:05.54 | Untouchab1e | Exactly.. |
| 17:05.57 | Untouchab1e | but they didnt.. |
| 17:06.04 | brumbrum | sadly no |
| 17:06.18 | Untouchab1e | In fact, the G1 is almost horrible compared to any other recent HTC phone |
| 17:06.44 | Untouchab1e | I almost coulnd't belive it was HTC who made it, as it didnt feel like an HTC in any way.. Pure plastic, poor build quality... |
| 17:06.58 | Untouchab1e | at least it was the first HTC phone with a capacitive screen though |
| 17:07.02 | Untouchab1e | thats a milestone in itself |
| 17:07.16 | Untouchab1e | brb (tunnel) |
| 17:07.18 | Untouchab1e | lossing network coverage for a minute ^^ |
| 17:07.40 | Untouchab1e | <3 SIM card in laptop with unlimited data plan |
| 17:08.27 | brumbrum | Yeah, we have a HTC Dev1 on the office, and I have not used it much, but I dont like the keyboard. The keys dont feels right. The keys should be like Raphael or Xperia, and the phone less plastic. |
| 17:09.03 | Untouchab1e | Actually, I have fallen in love with the keys on the qwerty keyboard now.. Love the spacing between the keys |
| 17:09.14 | Untouchab1e | but the keys themselves could have been better |
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| 17:09.45 | Untouchab1e | And the sliding mechanism, although weird, is actually quite smart |
| 17:09.49 | cr2 | qvga is the lamest thing one can imagine ;) |
| 17:09.54 | Untouchab1e | but again, better build quality or the usage of something not plastic would have made it infinitely better |
| 17:09.59 | cr2 | s/qvga/hvga/ |
| 17:10.01 | brumbrum | Like the X1 keys better. The X1 phone by itself is quite good, but the screen is to small for the resolution |
| 17:10.16 | Untouchab1e | ah, yeah |
| 17:11.14 | cr2 | raph should have been g1, if the googel really want android to succeed. |
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| 17:11.41 | brumbrum | But it is really good for the camera-image application we are developing right now, so thats why we use it. (the screen) |
| 17:11.44 | Untouchab1e | Well, my theory is: |
| 17:12.19 | Untouchab1e | The G1 was seen way back when Android was first announced as a demo-device and didnt change much prior to release. I think HTC just put something together quickly n order to demo Android.. |
| 17:12.22 | Untouchab1e | in* |
| 17:12.43 | Untouchab1e | But again, HTC decided to make their Android devices cheaper and lower-end |
| 17:12.59 | Untouchab1e | I talked to HTC marketing manager for Scandinavia about it.. |
| 17:13.41 | cr2 | they sell diamond cheap enough |
| 17:13.52 | Untouchab1e | The Diamond is old now though |
| 17:13.58 | Untouchab1e | or, "old" |
| 17:14.01 | cr2 | wtf is hvga, it means only PITA for everybody |
| 17:14.13 | Untouchab1e | cr2: is anyone working on a battery module for the Diamond? |
| 17:14.22 | cr2 | diamond is a bastardized raph |
| 17:14.29 | Untouchab1e | lol |
| 17:14.52 | cr2 | and wtf is the new amss |
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| 17:15.17 | cr2 | if they are so gay about new cool technology, leave it for g2 ;) |
| 17:15.26 | Untouchab1e | heh |
| 17:16.12 | cr2 | Untouchab1e: battery=charging+monitor. yes, maejrep and duncang work on it |
| 17:16.39 | Untouchab1e | Anyways, a guy on my forums has started writing a battery kernel module and he finds it quite straight forward.. He thinks it should be pretty easy to extend the kernel module on to the diamond |
| 17:16.52 | Untouchab1e | is there any details on maejrep or duncang's work on it somewhere? |
| 17:17.17 | brumbrum | They still release to many "simular" phones. So do SEMC... They should focus on new techonlogy, produce 1 hell of a hardware at the time and release it with both andoid and wince. That would keep the hardware-development-costs down and the market would buy more since it would be easyer to choise |
| 17:17.18 | cr2 | no |
| 17:18.22 | cr2 | brumbrum: obviously some m$ people will be really pissed off if it will happen |
| 17:18.31 | duncang | I haven't done anything useful beyond find the right GPIOs for Raph120. Any hints on how to interrogate the RPC nonsense would be helpful, since Google's code talks to 0x30100001, which we don't have. |
| 17:18.38 | brumbrum | cr2, probably |
| 17:19.45 | cr2 | duncang: googel has different amss, so it's of no use for us. we may have much more in common with vogue |
| 17:19.56 | Untouchab1e | duncang: do you know if Maejrep has made any further progress though? |
| 17:21.10 | cr2 | brumbrum: and we are talking about really big bucks here. |
| 17:21.32 | Marajin | Untouchab1e: that explains a lot about the g1/g2 |
| 17:21.33 | duncang | untouchable: No. He was vague last night. I don't know where/if he's published any code. |
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| 17:21.52 | Untouchab1e | Ok |
| 17:22.03 | Untouchab1e | Marajin: yep.. |
| 17:22.25 | duncang | I need to read the Vogue code and see if it looks more promising. |
| 17:22.27 | Untouchab1e | She also told me that its out of the question for them to (at least for now) to release phones with both WinMo and Android |
| 17:22.33 | Marajin | Untouchab1e: Making it cheaper makes the carriers offer better deals with the contract though, so they get more customers |
| 17:22.51 | duncang | How do I get the amss version from the actual device? |
| 17:23.13 | dcordes | wirelessdreamer: regarding clutter. why not? |
| 17:23.14 | Marajin | Untouchab1e: Screw 'out of the question', just give us the info and we'll do it ourselves! they'd sell more of their higher end devices if they did that >.< |
| 17:23.24 | Untouchab1e | haha |
| 17:23.39 | Untouchab1e | The reason they wont do it is probably dealings they have with MS though |
| 17:23.50 | Marajin | Untouchab1e: Sure they'll be legally obligated but |
| 17:23.55 | Untouchab1e | Although she did say that the reason for it was mainly the technincal complications |
| 17:24.05 | Untouchab1e | but thats just bollox |
| 17:24.06 | cr2 | duncang: it's in the smem |
| 17:24.50 | dcordes | wirelessdreamer: there is one thing to take note when running non android gui. you must enable a kernel config (CONFIG_FB_MSM_REFRESH) |
| 17:25.40 | cr2 | Marajin: i think that the htc engineers do quite a bit for us :) |
| 17:26.06 | Untouchab1e | hehe |
| 17:27.31 | Untouchab1e | The marketing exective did tell me that they really appreciated the large community around the HTC devices which develops 3rd party applications and such. They coulnd't really accept Custom ROM's though, hah |
| 17:28.08 | dcordes | dream_kill: did you ever try booting linux kernel from raphael nand? |
| 17:28.08 | wirelessdreamer | dcordes: hardware accel, wasn't sure if the proper support for the hardware chip was there already |
| 17:28.22 | cr2 | of course they can't. because the ms master says that, and the telecoms fear the certifications. |
| 17:28.36 | dcordes | wirelessdreamer: I think hardware accel is not available. but those beasts are really fast |
| 17:29.07 | brumbrum | Untouchab1e, No, they cant "accept" the custom roms, but they wouldn't sell so much phones if it wasn't for them and that people know they could upgrade the phone them self if needed |
| 17:29.17 | wirelessdreamer | raphael seems like the perfect handset . . . but it runs wm 6.1 |
| 17:29.29 | Untouchab1e | off course, and my point is that HTC fully understands it |
| 17:29.32 | Untouchab1e | that's why they dont bother much |
| 17:29.46 | brumbrum | wireless: Hehe, I think the same about my blackstone: Perfect and holy in all ways, except the operating system :P |
| 17:29.55 | Untouchab1e | and secretly appreciate it ^^ |
| 17:30.21 | cr2 | brumbrum: blac100 is big, and does not have the keyboard |
| 17:30.35 | Untouchab1e | brumbum: hehe, that said, Windows Mobile is actually a great OS when you think of it though.. Except for the fact that it hasnt really changed much.. ever |
| 17:30.43 | brumbrum | hehe, probably they like it. Alot of phones they dont need to put service-people on since people fix them by themself at home ;). |
| 17:30.43 | Untouchab1e | I remember my first HTC device, the Qtek 7070 |
| 17:31.03 | Untouchab1e | While other phones barely had color displays, my Qtek had freaggin MSN, Media Player, Internet Explorer and more |
| 17:31.30 | cr2 | Untouchab1e: blueangel ? |
| 17:31.41 | wirelessdreamer | i'm going back and forth between getting a blackberry curve, or htc touch pro, now that i've seen i could do some dev work with the touch pro i'm strongly leaning to it, but having to reboot into wm daily to recharge would be a huge annoyance |
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| 17:31.59 | brumbrum | cr2: It's perfect as surfboard, game-device and music-player. Surfing the web with it is amazing because of the screen, also you can watch movies on it without getting anoyed over the size. As a phone it is big, but you can live with that :P |
| 17:32.03 | Untouchab1e | cr2: no |
| 17:32.15 | Untouchab1e | HTC Tanager |
| 17:32.35 | duncang | Back later, probably |
| 17:32.42 | Untouchab1e | hehe, later duncang |
| 17:33.33 | wirelessdreamer | if I was running an android image on raphael, how hard would it be for me to grab button input, and doing all the handling of what happens when they're pressed? what kind of interface would I have for tracking their state? |
| 17:33.59 | cr2 | brumbrum: i have athena for the big phone :) |
| 17:34.13 | wirelessdreamer | if i get that handset I really want to port my chorded keyboard driver to it http://joy2chord.sourceforge.net/ :) |
| 17:35.50 | cr2 | wirelessdreamer: it's a standard linux input device |
| 17:35.55 | brumbrum | hehe, "my" first HTC-device was Polaris, the company I work for bought it to me, that's when I found out that HTC was doing good phones :-) |
| 17:36.01 | Untouchab1e | hehe.. |
| 17:36.07 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:36.37 | Untouchab1e | I got the Qtek 7070, then three weeks later I sold it and got the Qtek 8080 |
| 17:36.37 | Untouchab1e | I think the first HTC Touch screen phone I got was the Touch Dual |
| 17:36.43 | cr2 | hehe. didn't hear for a long time from pigeon |
| 17:37.09 | cr2 | it would be nice to finish linux on wallaby :) |
| 17:37.50 | Untouchab1e | Its so sad just having my Touch Pro lying there after I have become too depenant on Android to stop using my ADP1 |
| 17:38.12 | Untouchab1e | It looks like a freaggin design masterpiece compared to the bulky ugly ADP1 |
| 17:38.29 | brumbrum | wallaby :P |
| 17:38.42 | brumbrum | Really old HTC-phone? Right? |
| 17:39.04 | dcordes | wirelessdreamer: it's the normal linux kernel |
| 17:39.24 | Untouchab1e | hi dcordes |
| 17:39.27 | dcordes | wirelessdreamer: for android centered userspace questions #android is better |
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| 17:39.49 | dcordes | hi Untouchab1e |
| 17:40.20 | Untouchab1e | brumbrum: the HTC Wallaby is pretty old, yeah |
| 17:41.11 | Untouchab1e | how's things? |
| 17:41.34 | wirelessdreamer | dcordes: thanks |
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| 17:42.44 | Untouchab1e | ~lastseen lavender.t |
| 17:42.51 | Untouchab1e | ah, what was that command again? |
| 17:43.04 | Untouchab1e | ~seen lavender.t |
| 17:43.09 | apt | Untouchab1e: i haven't seen 'lavender.t' |
| 17:43.09 | Untouchab1e | ugh |
| 17:43.17 | Untouchab1e | ~seen lavender |
| 17:43.18 | apt | Untouchab1e: i haven't seen 'lavender' |
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| 17:43.59 | cr2 | ~seen lavender-t |
| 17:44.00 | apt | lavender-t <n=lavender@c-24-17-204-47.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 13d 15h 22m 17s ago, saying: 'tmzt: i'm trying to see if i can make the audio work ...'. |
| 17:44.29 | Untouchab1e | haha |
| 17:44.39 | cr2 | two weeks :) |
| 17:44.58 | Untouchab1e | Oh well, he hasnt responded to my pm's either, so.. hah |
| 17:45.39 | Untouchab1e | At least we have this: http://www.htc-android.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=173 |
| 17:47.45 | Untouchab1e | But would be interesting to know if he has made some further progress |
| 17:48.21 | cr2 | i don't see any rpc in wavedev.dll |
| 17:49.30 | Untouchab1e | Shoulndt EDGE be available anywhere where regular GPRS is available? |
| 17:49.46 | cr2 | audiopara+dex_x54 |
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| 17:50.06 | cr2 | it depends on the provider |
| 17:50.48 | Untouchab1e | Yeah, but EDGE isnt a seperate system, its just an upgraded GPRS, unlike 3G/UMTS... |
| 17:51.32 | cr2 | AudioPara3.csv and AudioPara4.csv |
| 17:51.39 | Untouchab1e | so I thought EDGE would be available anywhere GPRS is.. For the most part, that's true, but in the area Im in now I changed over to GPRS.. |
| 17:53.01 | Untouchab1e | Whats those? |
| 17:53.01 | Untouchab1e | never seem 'em before |
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| 17:56.15 | brumbrum | you sounded like a kid on a rave-party getting stopped by the police: "Whats those pills?" Never seem 'em before!" ;-) |
| 17:57.24 | dcordes | problem officer? |
| 17:57.47 | Untouchab1e | hahaha |
| 17:58.03 | brumbrum | :P |
| 18:00.26 | Untouchab1e | Where would you say that developers are needed the most at the moment? |
| 18:00.35 | Untouchab1e | I have a few who might be interested |
| 18:00.43 | Untouchab1e | I know* |
| 18:01.28 | Untouchab1e | one of them said: "That would be an interesting task lol driver-level coding" |
| 18:04.33 | groton | is it possible to download a image of android to be run on an htc diamond touch? |
| 18:05.17 | Untouchab1e | groton, as in if its possible to run Android on te Diamond? |
| 18:05.20 | Untouchab1e | the* |
| 18:05.51 | groton | no, i would like to avoid to compile it all, just asking if there is a pre built image :) |
| 18:06.36 | Untouchab1e | If you just want to run it, go to connect-utb.com --> Download --> Other --> Diamond |
| 18:06.56 | Untouchab1e | if you want to build it yourself, http://www.htc-android.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=172 |
| 18:08.42 | groton | Untouchab1e, thanks :) |
| 18:08.52 | dcordes | bbl |
| 18:09.44 | Untouchab1e | no problem.. if you have any problems running it on your Diamond, check out http://www.htc-android.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=70 |
| 18:10.53 | groton | you guys are doing a great works :) |
| 18:11.34 | Untouchab1e | hehe, thank you.. still lot remaining though ^^ |
| 18:13.09 | __xfs | The day when all htc-devices is possible to flash with android, that day HTC will do big money, and you are doing this for free :-) Real heros for all HTC-device owners |
| 18:13.25 | Untouchab1e | hah |
| 18:13.27 | __xfs | or tweaking-geeks like me :P |
| 18:13.41 | Untouchab1e | unfortunately, all HTC devices are different |
| 18:13.50 | __xfs | yeh |
| 18:14.06 | Untouchab1e | so porting Android for one of them doesnt make porting it to others neccesarily easy |
| 18:14.10 | Untouchab1e | the Vogue is lucky.. |
| 18:15.00 | __xfs | weird they dont reuse more technice between devices |
| 18:15.04 | Untouchab1e | dcordes, did I ask you about the "empty battery" problem earlier? or was that cr2? |
| 18:15.16 | Untouchab1e | __xfs: who? Us or HTC? |
| 18:15.30 | __xfs | htc... hardware-technology... |
| 18:15.58 | Untouchab1e | well, HTC thankfully improve the Hardware in their devices.. |
| 18:16.10 | Untouchab1e | by adding better hardware |
| 18:16.15 | Untouchab1e | just a pain for us.. |
| 18:16.41 | __xfs | yeah... Not like SEMC that is reselling the same phone with diffrent shell and software when the first one doesn't sell amymore :P |
| 18:16.51 | Untouchab1e | hehe |
| 18:17.07 | Untouchab1e | Sony Ericsson loves to do that as well |
| 18:17.10 | groton | Untouchab1e, i am downloading the 20090222 version of Android for HTC Diamond, and i have a question: will Android replace WinMob on my device? i.e. will i need to reinstall WinMob from scratch again? |
| 18:17.21 | Untouchab1e | groton, it wont replace WinMo |
| 18:17.37 | Untouchab1e | it just shuts down winmo, boots into Linux and starts up Android.. When you restart your device, you are back to WinMo again |
| 18:17.49 | __xfs | groton: You will not flash your device with android, you will start it from RAM |
| 18:17.50 | groton | Untouchab1e, ok, but that is not mentioned anywhere, and before doing something stupid i think it is better asking :) thx |
| 18:18.09 | Untouchab1e | hehe, no worries mate |
| 18:18.28 | Untouchab1e | I will update the download page with that info |
| 18:18.41 | Untouchab1e | but there are so many FAQ's, that I cant fit them all there.. |
| 18:18.50 | Untouchab1e | remember to disable the PIN code protection |
| 18:18.58 | Untouchab1e | in Windows mobile before running Haret.. |
| 18:19.00 | Untouchab1e | ;) |
| 18:19.54 | groton | ok |
| 18:20.09 | Untouchab1e | And also, do you have a DIAM100, DIAM500 or DIAM800? |
| 18:20.22 | Untouchab1e | You can check this under the battery cover or in Device Information somewhere in the settings |
| 18:20.23 | cr2 | 54 0x1c update audio 1 |
| 18:21.31 | __xfs | whats the diffrence between the 100, 500 and 800? |
| 18:21.45 | groton | Untouchab1e, i believe i have diam100 |
| 18:21.47 | Untouchab1e | cr2, wasnt it you who suggested checking out the services in init.rc that can be commented out in order to prevent Android from automatically shutting down due to empty battery? |
| 18:22.12 | Untouchab1e | groton, then you dont have the mess with the default.txt ;) Enjoy |
| 18:22.43 | Untouchab1e | __xfs, the DIAM100 is GSM, the DIAM800 is the Sprint Diamond which (if I remember correctly) is CDMA |
| 18:22.52 | __xfs | ok |
| 18:23.37 | groton | Untouchab1e, i do not remember where to check if it is really a diam100, looking to the Device INformation havent helped me getting this info. Btw, i do not really know what the default.txt file is about :O |
| 18:23.58 | Untouchab1e | as I said, check under the battery on your device |
| 18:24.04 | Untouchab1e | should show there |
| 18:24.09 | Untouchab1e | ;) |
| 18:24.19 | groton | yeahm, but i am copying a big file now, waiting for it to finishing |
| 18:24.25 | Untouchab1e | ;) |
| 18:33.26 | ali1234 | groton: default.txt is a batch file for haret |
| 18:33.51 | ali1234 | it's basically like grub.conf or whatever |
| 18:35.04 | groton | ok |
| 18:35.38 | Untouchab1e | did you get it running groton? |
| 18:36.44 | groton | well, it is still downloading the image. And i read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383065&page=3, and it really scared me. I am gonna make a backup before running Android |
| 18:37.21 | Untouchab1e | haha |
| 18:38.02 | Untouchab1e | doing a backup is a good thing to do off course, but VERY few people have had any problems running Haret and Android |
| 18:38.32 | Untouchab1e | I had a guy on my forums who got the permissions problem though, so it is technically possible.. Better safe than sorry I guess |
| 18:41.55 | __xfs | I helped my wife's sister some weeks ago, she wanted to "reinstall her diamond" (flash new image). I found one that would be nice. Told her to backup everything, so she installed the mobile-sync-tools that works in Vista on her computer, connected the phone and tried to sync, BUT instead of copy the information to the computer she did sync at the other way: Empty contact-list was copyed to the phone. She was sad for da |
| 18:41.55 | __xfs | ys... :P |
| 18:42.05 | __xfs | So: Backup if you know how to do it :P |
| 18:42.58 | Untouchab1e | hehe |
| 18:43.12 | Untouchab1e | why didnt she just sync her contacts and calendar with Outlook? |
| 18:43.23 | Untouchab1e | why use a 3rd party solution for that when Vista's WMDC does it for you? |
| 18:44.19 | __xfs | I dont know what she did, I never used vista and only used ActiveSync. :P |
| 18:44.53 | Untouchab1e | hehe, well, you can sync contacts and calendar with ActiveSync too |
| 18:44.54 | Untouchab1e | same thing |
| 18:45.15 | Untouchab1e | dont understand why people use 3rd party solutions to "back up" contacts and such when that's the whole point of ActiveSync |
| 18:45.57 | __xfs | ActiveSync didn't work in vista she said (and I dont know, since I am a linux-person, only using XP at work and in virtualbox sometimes) |
| 18:46.27 | Untouchab1e | haha, that's because Vista has ActiveSync integrated, called Windows Mobile Device Center |
| 18:46.36 | Untouchab1e | which pops up the first time she connects her device.. |
| 18:47.23 | __xfs | hehe... lol! Well, to say it nice: She isn't the sharpes knife in the kitchen |
| 18:47.24 | Untouchab1e | WMDC is actually rather good.. |
| 18:47.29 | Untouchab1e | LOL |
| 18:47.30 | Untouchab1e | oh well |
| 18:49.29 | Untouchab1e | You can tell her about WMDC, so that she can save herself of any sync problems in the future |
| 18:50.28 | ali1234 | forget about that, ppcpimbackup -> sd card is the way to go, no need to even go anywhere near widnows |
| 18:50.38 | __xfs | No, I will not tell her, because she then will blame me if she cant get it right :P |
| 18:50.49 | Untouchab1e | haha |
| 18:51.31 | ali1234 | fair enough |
| 18:51.32 | Untouchab1e | ali1234, I am just saying that (if you are a Windows user off course), using ActiveSync\WMDC will ensure you have up-to-date backup of your contacts, calendar, email and notes without any worries |
| 18:51.54 | ali1234 | if you have outlook installed, and if you don't somehow mess it up :) |
| 18:52.01 | Untouchab1e | with Android it gets even better, as stuff is instantly synced with Gmail, Google calendar, contacts, etc.. wirelessly.. "Push" ftw! |
| 18:52.20 | Untouchab1e | My contacts are safely saved on the interwebs ^^ |
| 18:54.36 | __xfs | hehe... I really want that now on my blackstone! Hehe... Please, make it work now! Tonight! Right away! ;-) Damn the phone would be nice if HTC had released it with android instead ;) |
| 18:54.52 | Untouchab1e | haha |
| 18:55.56 | Untouchab1e | ah, train coming in at the station.. need to get in the car and drive home.. lol |
| 18:56.01 | Untouchab1e | "home" being base.. lol |
| 18:56.11 | Untouchab1e | be back later |
| 19:04.20 | cr2 | remote_apis_clnt |
| 19:04.38 | cr2 | snd_set_volume_modem_reset |
| 19:04.42 | cr2 | is the rpc call |
| 19:05.27 | cr2 | snd_voc_pb *(playback) and snd_voc_rec* too |
| 19:05.49 | cr2 | audmgr_ enable,disable and suspend |
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| 21:03.27 | groton | Untouchab1e, i started Android on my diam100 successfully. Also, WMob started properly after the test |
| 21:05.36 | dcordes | cr2: still fighting rpc ? |
| 21:05.56 | cr2 | groton: i can tell you what to do so wince does not start successfully :) |
| 21:06.02 | cr2 | dcordes: looking at the audio |
| 21:06.21 | groton | cr2, writing randomly on the NAND? :) |
| 21:06.28 | cr2 | dcordes: a defconfig with nand will be nice |
| 21:06.34 | cr2 | groton: yes :) |
| 21:06.59 | cr2 | groton: starting android with nand support in the kernel enabled, actually |
| 21:07.20 | dcordes | yea somebody almost fried his device that way |
| 21:07.23 | groton | ok, thanks for letting me know not what to do when hacking with this kernel :) |
| 21:07.44 | dcordes | it's better to use a trusty known working distribution |
| 21:08.28 | cr2 | dcordes: i think we can add the third ram bank on raph |
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| 21:09.03 | cr2 | i think NetRipper was too pseeimistic about the first sram mb. only 512K are protected. maybe even less |
| 21:09.14 | cr2 | because wince writes above 512K |
| 21:09.30 | cr2 | and we can reuse wince dmesg sdram too |
| 21:09.43 | dcordes | what about the 1M smem ram? |
| 21:11.44 | cr2 | need to revide the linux ram map |
| 21:11.54 | cr2 | s/vide/vise/ |
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| 21:13.53 | dcordes | cr2: do we know the nand partitions ? |
| 21:14.43 | cr2 | partially. |
| 21:14.51 | cr2 | with some unknown offset |
| 21:15.12 | cr2 | druidu said that the offset0 is wince partition. i'd like to check it. |
| 21:15.45 | cr2 | we may just define 1 32MB partition. |
| 21:16.04 | cr2 | and then mount it readonly from angstrom initrd. |
| 21:16.10 | cr2 | i.e. no android close. |
| 21:18.00 | pigeon | cr2: i'd love to, too. |
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| 21:22.01 | cr2 | pigeon: ok, let's do something about it :) can you run haret with earlyharetlog.txt and post the haretlog.txt ? |
| 21:22.31 | pigeon | cr2: sure, not at this very moment, but i shall keep you informed. |
| 21:22.36 | cr2 | ok |
| 21:23.04 | pigeon | cr2: btw, do you know if there's anyone who'd like to help the wallaby port? |
| 21:23.53 | pigeon | i've got an extra wallaby i'm willing to lend/donate. |
| 21:24.08 | cr2 | no. i think because it's very difficult to find the hardware |
| 21:25.04 | pigeon | heh |
| 21:25.39 | pigeon | so, that's one problem solved ;) |
| 21:35.27 | cr2 | i don't expect much tracing |
| 21:35.56 | cr2 | mostly code refactoring, and trying to write the SD driver based on the existing asic2 code. |
| 21:39.01 | pigeon | cr2: so, you know anyone then? :) |
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| 22:00.21 | cr2 | pigeon: i can help, but have a lot of other things to do. |
| 22:00.34 | cr2 | hi Balsat |
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| 22:06.11 | Balsat | Hi cr2 |
| 22:07.05 | cr2 | do you have some progreesss ? |
| 22:08.01 | Balsat | Nope... I have been away for a week, so i'm just starting reading the irc log |
| 22:08.48 | Balsat | I can see the the kernel have been updated, was is new to it, battery? |
| 22:09.23 | cr2 | no. |
| 22:09.33 | cr2 | i've fixed the clock bug |
| 22:10.03 | Balsat | clock bug? random hanging problem? |
| 22:10.23 | cr2 | we have added the gsensor driver by j0b0, but maejrep needs to commit a cleaned version |
| 22:10.56 | Balsat | Cool |
| 22:10.56 | cr2 | i'm optimistic about BT |
| 22:11.08 | cr2 | for sound we need to do something about rpc |
| 22:11.22 | cr2 | http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=MSM_RPC |
| 22:11.31 | marex | cr2, I found a way to hang the DoCG4 ;) |
| 22:11.38 | marex | it doesnt respond to anything ;) |
| 22:12.02 | cr2 | marex: ok, can you put some stub at 0xa01 ? |
| 22:12.15 | marex | yup, I already tested it that far |
| 22:12.21 | cr2 | marex: i think that hh.org kernel is loaded with +2MB offset now. |
| 22:12.28 | marex | but it doesnt wakeup (or at least I have no way to test it does) |
| 22:12.36 | cr2 | why ? |
| 22:12.44 | marex | because LCD doesnt kick in |
| 22:13.00 | cr2 | put the resume address there |
| 22:13.06 | cr2 | hmm. usb ? |
| 22:13.15 | marex | I'll test with initramfs and reboot |
| 22:13.17 | marex | that might work |
| 22:13.40 | marex | but not before this weekend, ok ? |
| 22:13.55 | cr2 | i don't rememebr if the lcd driver has .resume |
| 22:13.57 | cr2 | ok |
| 22:14.25 | cr2 | just rememebred that the lcd spi functions need cli/sti around. |
| 22:15.16 | cr2 | Balsat: we boot with 217MB ram now, but it blows android. |
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| 22:15.50 | cr2 | Balsat: but it should be possible to increase the ram above 217MB |
| 22:20.18 | kri5 | hi there |
| 22:21.07 | kri5 | any news on blackstone port devel? |
| 22:21.41 | dcordes_ | hi kri5 |
| 22:22.16 | dcordes_ | blackstone is in the htc-msm-2.6.27 branch |
| 22:22.47 | dcordes_ | apt: kernel? |
| 22:22.48 | apt | Kernel é o núcleo de um sistema. ele controla os dispositivos e demais periféricos do sistema (como memória, placas de som, vídeo, discos rígidos, disquetes, sistemas de arquivos, redes e outros recursos disponíveis). Muitos confundem e o chamam de sistema operacional! Existem vários kernels disponíveis, como Linux e Hurd. |
| 22:22.57 | dcordes_ | aye |
| 22:23.03 | dcordes_ | apt: htc kernel? |
| 22:23.04 | apt | [htc kernel] http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Kernel |
| 22:23.53 | dcordes_ | apt: who taught you portuguese? |
| 22:24.01 | kri5 | dcordes_: hi heard about porting android on htc blackstone, i tested it a few weeks ago, but lots of things wasn't implemented, such as audio driver |
| 22:24.22 | dcordes_ | cr2 worked on the audio driver today |
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| 22:24.36 | dcordes_ | we don't port android but linux |
| 22:25.01 | captnoord | and android in its turn uses linux |
| 22:25.30 | kri5 | dcordes_: ok, that's true, it's like everybody speak about linux distribs, but they'll have to say GNU/Linux :) |
| 22:25.43 | captnoord | lol |
| 22:26.40 | cr2 | kri5: android is just a gui environment on top on linux |
| 22:26.52 | kri5 | i just wanted to know if sound was now working, or if devel was going on, because i heard that blackstone hardware was kind of different than other |
| 22:26.58 | kri5 | cr2: yep, in java :/ |
| 22:26.59 | cr2 | kri5: which is portable enough *java* |
| 22:27.19 | cr2 | sound is not yet working. |
| 22:27.27 | kri5 | cr2: ok |
| 22:27.38 | kri5 | cr2: problem come from hardware driver? |
| 22:28.11 | cr2 | yes, it has nothing to do with android itself. |
| 22:28.48 | kri5 | yep |
| 22:29.14 | kri5 | is there any base of audio driver? or still don't have any hardware specs? |
| 22:29.46 | cr2 | we don't have any hardware specs. not only for sound. |
| 22:30.39 | kri5 | cr2: ok so every driver is reverse eng? |
| 22:33.57 | dcordes_ | kri5: in case of the msm7xxxA there is the google kernel as a base |
| 22:34.59 | kri5 | ok |
| 22:36.07 | cr2 | writel(0x2a79,MSM_CLK_CTL_BASE+0xc4); // clock on |
| 22:36.13 | cr2 | hmm. ob vogue |
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| 22:41.42 | Untouchab1e | A guy over at htc-android just wrote this: http://htc-android.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=193&start=0 |
| 22:43.59 | Untouchab1e | Not sure if there is anything there you didn't already know? |
| 22:55.25 | Untouchab1e | Oh well, just thought I would share it ;) |
| 22:55.28 | Untouchab1e | Got to get some sleep now |
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| 23:09.45 | dcordes_ | I'll be back |
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| 23:11.41 | captnoord | [1]Untouchab1e: we both know we should really be in bed |
| 23:12.49 | [1]Untouchab1e | haha |
| 23:12.50 | [1]Untouchab1e | I know |
| 23:12.57 | [1]Untouchab1e | just had to check up on something |
| 23:13.07 | [1]Untouchab1e | its 01:12 here and I got urban combat courses tomorrow.. lol |
| 23:13.22 | captnoord | same here |
| 23:13.23 | captnoord | :P |
| 23:13.44 | captnoord | nah |
| 23:13.48 | captnoord | no combat shit |
| 23:14.01 | [1]Untouchab1e | heh |
| 23:17.05 | [1]Untouchab1e | Anyone here know the details behind how we got battery info? |
| 23:17.46 | Marajin | captnoord: seriously dude, keep such things private ;) |
| 23:17.55 | captnoord | lol |
| 23:18.02 | captnoord | highfives Marajin |
| 23:19.20 | Marajin | heh |
| 23:30.40 | cr2 | good night |
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