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01:16.06drantinDoes anyone know if there are multiple versions of the Touch Pro hardware? I've noticed that some pictures of the keyboard seem to include a CTRL key, but mine doesn't... is that a feature of the GSM models or something?
01:16.22drantin(I have a CDMA version from Verizon)
01:17.00drantinit's getting quite annoying what with GNU Screen needing that button... perhaps I should just look in to changing the screen configuration...
01:18.07drantinthe casing for mine is also rather square, and others seem to have beveled edges...
01:22.12tmztI have the same one, the Sprint phone is more rounded
01:22.24tmztthe ones with ctrl I think are fuze (at&t)
01:22.47tmztif you change to the old landscape on screen keyboard there is a ctrl key!
01:36.34drantinsaw one of the sprint ones at best buy earlier, it indeed has a ctrol key
01:36.43drantinunless the price tag was wrong
01:36.53drantinphonescoop shows it too
01:38.13tmztwell, it might be possible to replace a dll and use the sprint one, we could ask someone in #xda-devs
01:39.19tmzthuh, that probably wouldn't work since the keymap is off by one on the vzw I think
01:40.02drantinthe keyboard on it is two keys wider as well :/
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06:11.35Untouchab1eGood morning
06:11.35Untouchab1e:)
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12:25.34Vegitamornin
12:27.32Marajin'lo
12:29.15Vegitaam thinkin bout buying a diamond, but only if linux works onit
12:36.34Marajindefine 'works' ;)
12:36.37Marajinit boots
12:37.40MarajinVegita: basically it's under active development and will work properly at some point, at the moment there's only partial hardware support
12:37.58Vegitai see
12:38.05Vegita10x
12:39.24Marajin10x?
12:41.31Vegitatenx
12:41.39MarajinVegita: looks like buttons/dpad/internal memory access/framebuffer/gsm/touchscreen are working for the diamond, but there's no LED/Audio/vibrate/wifi/bluetooth
12:42.00Vegitathx
12:43.06Marajinsooo erm.. if they get audio working, then it'd be usable as a phone under linux. It can already make/recieve calls and do SMS but with no sound support heh.
12:44.02MarajinVegita: why diamond and not blackstone/raphael ?
12:44.59Vegitaits cute.)
12:45.07Marajincute? :p
12:45.23Marajinthe lack of keyboard/SDHC is a nono for me with the diamond
12:45.26MarajinI actually got a kovsky
12:45.29Vegitaand cheapest 640x480
12:45.59Vegitamaybe touch pro wud be beter
12:46.35Marajinyep
12:46.41MarajinWVGA is so awesome though
12:48.10Vegitapro2
12:48.17Vegitathe wvga
12:48.46Vegitaand toukh hd
12:50.36Marajinand the kovsky yeah, that's wvga
12:50.41Marajinquite a few new devices will be WVGA
12:52.15Vegitayup waitin fi dem
12:52.50Vegitai have to irc from numpad on lessons
12:53.02Vegitatyring
12:53.27Vegitai
12:53.31Marajinno worries
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12:54.54Vegitayes but waitin a minimum touch one.)
12:55.51Vegitai could write much farter
12:55.52Vegitas
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13:00.11dcordes-kaisellis ping?
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13:06.50AstainHasPS3morning
13:07.03dcordes-kaisgood morning AstainHasPS3
13:08.35dcordes-kais~seen cr2
13:08.37aptcr2 <n=cr2@ip-90-186-72-234.web.vodafone.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 3d 13h 56m 48s ago, saying: 'good night'.
13:10.29dcordes-kaisellis I didn't see your question yesterday. was on the kaiser forgot I had irc on.
13:11.51dcordes-kaisellis I read the messages. did you have any luck with the dump?
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14:31.35DarkNetIs there a android cupcake build out there anywhere that was build for titan?  I used the vogue/kaiser one but the horizontal screen if rotated the wrong way?  I tried building myself but I am having difficulties.
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14:32.08Untouchab1eHi all :D
14:32.31AstainHasPS3DarkNet:  http://magister.ipsys.net/projects/android-for-titan/
14:32.36AstainHasPS3that is the best build for titan
14:33.24DarkNetAstainHasPS3: I have used that one but I like the screen sizes better on the vogue build better.  it fits the screen better.
14:33.58DarkNetif Magister had a cupcake build I'd probably use it but I can't find it.
14:34.31AstainHasPS3use his zimage and try that with the vogue img's
14:35.39Untouchab1eMight work
14:35.50DarkNetthats what I am doing.  I am using all Magisters configs and files except the system.img that I am using from the vogue build.  but the screen is flipped the wrong direction because of the way it slides.
14:36.10AstainHasPS3screen slides the same way for kaiser and titan
14:37.07DarkNetthat I know.   still baffled why the screen is upside down when the keyboard is open.  I know where to change it in the source but when I build myself it failes.
14:37.49DarkNetthe only one that the screen is correct is in Magisters build but the screen sizes are a little to big for my liking.
14:38.10AstainHasPS3magister musta done some crazy config in his setups
14:38.42dcordes-kaisbbl
14:40.07DarkNetI don't suppose there is a wiki or open thread anywhere on how they are building android.  When I do it I seem to get an opersized system.img and it doesn't mount.
14:40.48Untouchab1ehold
14:40.51Untouchab1eI think I have one..
14:41.37Untouchab1eYou mean how to build android in general?
14:41.41Untouchab1ehttp://source.android.com/download
14:42.05Untouchab1eOr more device specific kernel building? (example: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BuildTheRaphaelKernel)
14:42.59DarkNetthat I can do.  the kernel I can do.  But I can't seem to build the android part correctly.
14:43.53DarkNetI have been able to build android.  but when I do the system.img files are quite a bit larger then the ones that I am using from titan or vogue.
14:44.09DarkNetand they do not seem to mount during boot.
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15:39.42MarajinAstainHellbring: probably what's going on with the vogue is the image scaling in the kernel, no?
15:40.39AstainHellbringpossibly
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16:21.10DarkNethttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470649&page=5  <-- this page kinda expains my screen rotate issue.  I just can't get the compile to work.
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18:38.17dcordes_~seen rob_w
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18:38.45dcordes_somebody knows rob_w's email?
18:39.52InZaN3_CrIcKeTnope
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20:35.49Untouchab1eHow is everyone?
20:36.07Pandemic187awesome :D
20:36.16AstainHellbringgood going home
20:38.39Untouchab1ehehe
20:38.44Untouchab1egood, good
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20:57.24Marajinhey Untouchab1e
20:57.28MarajinI'm... tired
20:57.48Untouchab1ehah
20:57.49Untouchab1eme too
20:57.51Untouchab1egot finals tomorrow
20:58.00Marajinfeh, finals, they're overrated
20:58.04Untouchab1ehaha
20:58.07Untouchab1eso they say
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20:59.48Marajinscrew 'they', so /I/ say ;)
21:02.12Untouchab1eAnyone know if the DIAM110 is the hardware equivalent of the DIAM100?
21:04.14MarajinUntouchab1e: they're nearly identical apart from band support
21:04.47Untouchab1eso mtype is the same, or?
21:06.12Marajinthink so
21:06.24Untouchab1ethe default.txt should be identical then so to speak?
21:06.56Marajinyeah, it should be mtype 1805
21:07.04Marajinthe only diamond that is different is the 500
21:07.23Untouchab1eok! Thanks :)
21:07.35Marajinno worries
21:08.07MarajinDon't all the diamonds/raphs base off the same development effort?
21:08.45Untouchab1eto some extent, yeh
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21:11.58Untouchab1eSince they are very similar hardware wise..
21:12.25Marajinpretty damned identical for the most part yeah :p
21:14.47duncangExcuse the newbie.  I got a RAPH120 this afternoon (WinCE has crashed already). Google found some Germans having problems booting Linux on it, but no other mentions.  Anyone know what the state of play with this device is, or do I just need to go and buy a microSD card and find out?
21:18.22Marajinduncang: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelLinux#Hardwarex20.differencesx20.andx20.configurations
21:18.43Marajinduncang: your one stop shop for diamond/raph stuff
21:19.33Marajinto summarise, it boots, the keyboard, framebuffer, touchscreen, radio, SD card work
21:19.44captnoordsound not
21:19.48Marajinaudio, bluetooth, wifi, no work
21:21.10duncangMarajin: Presumably 120 is more like 100. In the Windows crash diagnostics the machine type was 0x01c2 == 450??
21:23.03Marajinall diamonds except the 800s should use the same mtype and run the same linux kernel/drivers
21:23.11Marajiner s/diamonds/raphaels
21:23.46duncangOK.  Will get a card, try other people's RAPH100 images and then sort out the SDK.  Cheers for the info.
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21:26.09Marajinno worries
21:26.13Marajincards are cheap anyway
21:26.27captnoord:D
21:26.29Marajincoupla gig card and you're laughing and it shouldn't cost you much
21:26.42captnoordI wish I could work on that arm thumb decompiler
21:26.57captnoordso I can work out those fucked up offset stuff
21:27.23duncangMarajin: I'm in Europe, where the shops are shut ;-) 8GB or 16GB card tomorrow...
21:27.38Marajinduncang: feh, excuses! which part of europe ?
21:27.44Marajineurope is a crazy place of many countries
21:28.17duncangStick-out bit top left.  Called UK.
21:28.40Marajinthat's not europe, that's the UK, we might technically be in europe but only because we had no choice!
21:29.19duncangNo politics, please.  This is a tech channel :-)
21:29.50Marajinso which segement of the UK do you prowl?
21:30.32duncangThis bit would be Surrey, I'm afraid.
21:30.57MarajinI understand your fear :p
21:31.05Marajinthen again I'm in Lancashire so
21:31.23duncangNot so much traffic up there ;-)
21:31.50Marajinoh no, no traffic, not like living near manchester causes any traffic ;)
21:32.25MarajinOk so you've got london to put up with but :p
21:32.30Marajinit's still pretty sucky
21:49.07Untouchab1eOh well guys.. I better get a good night sleep before that damn final.. See you soon :)
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