| 00:00.17 | marajin | there's some stuff in 6.5 that's nice but overall .. what's the point? |
| 00:00.23 | marajin | the new today screen replacement annoys me |
| 00:01.56 | Untouchab1e | just feels like a bridge between 6.1 and 7 |
| 00:02.17 | marajin | yeah all he could say was 6.5 'wasn't different enough to warrant a full version number change' |
| 00:02.29 | Untouchab1e | that says it all, really |
| 00:02.34 | marajin | but the fact it's not 6.2 tells you they expect it to be the next step to 7 |
| 00:03.07 | marajin | wasn't there a 5.5 release pretty close to the 6 release? |
| 00:03.17 | AstainHellbring | no marajin |
| 00:03.59 | marajin | heh.. apparently WM6.5 RTMs in april |
| 00:04.37 | AstainHellbring | ?} |
| 00:05.04 | marajin | RTM = Release to manufacturers |
| 00:05.20 | marajin | as in, 6.5 is going to be release version in april but no devices are meant to ship with it till september |
| 00:05.41 | marajin | heh, MS Marketplace for mobiles and zune software for Windows Mobile |
| 00:06.13 | marajin | WM7 beta in nov 09 heh.. |
| 00:06.20 | marajin | I suspect we'll have WM7 in early 2010 then |
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| 00:07.59 | Untouchab1e | your prediction is noted :) |
| 00:08.27 | Untouchab1e | oh well, I am dead tired :) |
| 00:08.36 | Untouchab1e | later all :) |
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| 00:09.16 | AstainHellbring | BTW marajin that ? was from my little 2 year old boy |
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| 00:14.57 | AstainHasPS3 | bloody hell |
| 00:15.38 | marajin | AstainHasPS3: having fun? :p |
| 00:16.11 | AstainHasPS3 | no something on my network is wigging |
| 00:16.22 | marajin | it happens |
| 00:17.46 | AstainHasPS3 | marajin yah I think I need to reboot my router |
| 00:20.15 | marajin | AstainHasPS3: go for it! |
| 00:21.38 | AstainHasPS3 | need to punch a hole in the wall to put cable into my office so I can cut out my wireless bridge |
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| 00:32.07 | marajin | AstainHasPS3: heh, yeah that'd help |
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| 00:53.08 | marajin | AstainHasPS3: no luck? |
| 00:56.00 | AstainHasPS3 | didnt reboot it yet |
| 00:56.08 | AstainHasPS3 | waiting till latery my time |
| 00:56.32 | marajin | heh fair enough |
| 00:57.33 | AstainHasPS3 | but if it keeps it up it gets the kick |
| 00:58.19 | marajin | heh :p |
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| 01:11.54 | Gentoon | tmzt |
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| 01:56.45 | marajin | heh :P in, out, in out, shake AstainHellbring all about? :P |
| 01:57.04 | AstainHellbring | lol |
| 02:05.08 | marajin | woo, got my old MUD to boot |
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| 02:54.46 | marajin | AstainHasPS3: damn man that router is really unhappy. |
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| 03:49.19 | icarus | whah? |
| 03:49.24 | icarus | i thought it was a myth |
| 03:49.41 | icarus | people are actually working on linux for the htc mogul (IE "Titan") |
| 03:50.21 | Perkka | morning |
| 03:52.04 | marajin | heh |
| 03:52.18 | marajin | people are working on linux for a bunch of devices but titan is certainly among them |
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| 03:53.25 | icarus | marajin: hows the progress? |
| 03:58.50 | marajin | for the titan, I dunno, I have Hermes/Kaiser/Kovsky |
| 03:59.03 | marajin | (i.e. HTC TyTn, TyTn II and SE Xperia X1) |
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| 04:07.46 | tmzt | icarus: titan and vogue are essentially the same |
| 04:08.47 | AstainZZZZZZ | yep main difference is the keyboard and wifi |
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| 04:18.10 | icarus | tmzt: ive read the titan has a slightly smaller screen |
| 04:18.18 | icarus | how function are the android builds? |
| 04:18.23 | icarus | like, usuable for day to day? |
| 04:18.46 | marajin | borderline usable probably |
| 04:18.58 | marajin | the kaiser is technically useable since it has GSM and PM |
| 04:19.57 | marajin | as does the vogue |
| 04:20.02 | marajin | so I assume the titan does too |
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| 04:20.18 | icarus | marajin: it does |
| 04:20.20 | icarus | interesting |
| 04:20.23 | icarus | where can i get a build |
| 04:20.28 | icarus | i say, as i ALSO google |
| 04:21.06 | marajin | does dzo's stuff support titan? |
| 04:21.39 | marajin | hmm, no but the right zImage would presumably see you around that |
| 04:21.53 | marajin | http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ <-- Vogue/kaiser/polaris/nike stuff here |
| 04:22.18 | marajin | there's other places too but there's a android 1.1 stuff there if you have the relevant zImage to make it go |
| 04:23.22 | tmzt | icarus: same reolution though |
| 04:23.48 | marajin | I'd guess if you trawl xda-dev forums someone will be talking about how to get it working on the titan |
| 04:23.55 | marajin | and possibly youtube videos too |
| 04:25.27 | tmzt | just build the vogue kernel I think |
| 04:28.09 | marajin | tmzt: no need, dzo site has vogue kernel? |
| 04:28.24 | tmzt | with titan suppoort? |
| 04:28.27 | marajin | NFC |
| 04:28.36 | tmzt | so just use titan mtype? |
| 04:28.39 | tmzt | oh, ok |
| 04:28.49 | marajin | worth a shot though? |
| 04:29.20 | tmzt | yeah |
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| 04:31.21 | AstainHasPS3 | http://magister.ipsys.net/projects/android-for-titan/ |
| 04:31.31 | AstainHasPS3 | http://magister.ipsys.net/projects/android-for-titan/ |
| 04:32.11 | marajin | cool |
| 04:32.18 | marajin | AstainHasPS3 saves the day |
| 04:32.30 | AstainHasPS3 | yay me |
| 04:32.56 | marajin | have a medal! |
| 04:33.10 | tmzt | magister's is old I think, at least since he's been here |
| 04:33.38 | AstainHasPS3 | its old but the best for titan |
| 04:33.51 | AstainHasPS3 | Last update - 23.03.2009 |
| 04:33.54 | tmzt | vogue userspace should work fine though |
| 04:34.00 | tmzt | oh, great |
| 04:35.08 | AstainHasPS3 | oh great? |
| 04:35.41 | tmzt | as in good |
| 04:35.45 | AstainHasPS3 | cool |
| 04:35.50 | AstainHasPS3 | brb gotta reboot router |
| 04:35.52 | tmzt | that it's that recent |
| 04:36.05 | marajin | AstainHasPS3: 'bout time |
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| 04:38.29 | AstainZZZZZZ | yah I know marajin |
| 04:38.31 | AstainZZZZZZ | was waiting to do updates on my exchange server and then as that was rebooting reboot router |
| 04:38.33 | AstainZZZZZZ | lets see if it did it |
| 04:43.06 | marajin | ahem |
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| 04:44.34 | marajin | coughs. |
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| 04:47.28 | marajin | passes AstainZZZZZZ the sledgehammer and nods knowingly. |
| 04:47.51 | AstainZZZZZZ | yep |
| 04:49.44 | marajin | I'm waiting for the disconnect and lack of reconnect now ;) |
| 04:49.50 | marajin | and the distant sound of screaming |
| 04:51.07 | AstainZZZZZZ | lol |
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| 07:15.51 | Untouchab1e | Good morning :D |
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| 07:27.52 | Perkka | awful |
| 07:28.08 | Perkka | but thats the way life is for the moment |
| 07:28.14 | Perkka | anyway, off for a while |
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| 12:22.21 | marajin | allo allo |
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| 12:35.30 | Untouchab1e | Hi all! |
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| 18:02.55 | marajin | yo |
| 18:03.52 | AstainHellbring | yo |
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| 19:06.30 | NetRipper | yoyo |
| 19:06.35 | NetRipper | ;) |
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| 19:23.14 | marajin | how's things? |
| 19:23.53 | AstainHellbring | things good |
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| 19:37.57 | marajin | goodo! |
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| 20:03.04 | Untouchab1e | Good evening |
| 20:05.58 | marajin | hey Untouchab1e |
| 20:06.13 | Untouchab1e | hi mate |
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| 20:07.12 | Untouchab1e | how are you? |
| 20:08.50 | marajin | not too bad really |
| 20:08.54 | marajin | I fixed my old MUD today |
| 20:09.01 | marajin | once more it boots! |
| 20:09.02 | AstainHellbring | wow mud's |
| 20:12.01 | marajin | muds! |
| 20:12.07 | marajin | remember muds AstainHellbring ? |
| 20:19.27 | AstainHellbring | oh yah |
| 20:19.34 | AstainHellbring | and the cult of bonk too :D |
| 20:19.45 | AstainHellbring | burned lots of hours on them |
| 20:20.39 | marajin | heh |
| 20:20.43 | marajin | they're still very much alive |
| 20:20.53 | AstainHellbring | wow |
| 20:20.58 | marajin | there's still at least 3 functioning intermud communication networks actually |
| 20:21.05 | marajin | with talk of designing a completely new one |
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| 20:57.14 | Untouchab1e | ok, tell me... whats a mud? |
| 20:57.25 | AstainHellbring | text based rpg |
| 20:57.55 | marajin | loosely speaking yeah |
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| 20:58.11 | marajin | Untouchab1e: ya know what a MMO is? like Ultima Online, World of Warcraft, stuff like that? |
| 20:58.41 | marajin | Untouchab1e: Well MUDs are the true progenitor of the idea, they're 100% text based but they're multi user, some cases up to several hundred simultaenous players.. very rarely in the 100s |
| 20:58.45 | marajin | er *1000s |
| 21:01.27 | marajin | just goes to show, World of Warcraft wasn't even remotely innovative beyond being full 3D ;) the whole concept of high player count RPGs existed in the 70s |
| 21:02.03 | marajin | actually, if they had graphics, they'd be notably MORE advanced than MMOs in some cases |
| 21:03.55 | marajin | can end up with 100s of subskills, full crafting systems, a lot of automated functions that are handy (auto follow for example), so on and so forth |
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| 22:04.55 | Untouchab1e | haha, cool |
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