| 00:02.09 | marajin | AstainHellbring: goodo |
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| 01:25.25 | rlameiro | hello |
| 01:25.36 | rlameiro | anyone has some nice distro for the Universal |
| 01:27.21 | rlameiro | anyone here uses the HTC-universal? |
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| 07:04.23 | Untouchab1e | Good morning |
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| 08:06.55 | Perkka | mornin |
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| 14:51.22 | Chlup | hi guys |
| 14:51.35 | tmzt | hello |
| 14:51.35 | Chlup | iam trying install Familiar linux to hp ipaq hx4700 |
| 14:52.07 | Chlup | i wrote bootldr.rom to SD card, but can't start refl;ash utility |
| 14:52.18 | Chlup | can anybody help me please ? |
| 14:52.44 | tmzt | not sure anyone here knows anything about booting like that |
| 14:53.03 | tmzt | if you have a zImage you can start it with haret from ce |
| 14:53.10 | AstainHellbring | Chlup I've not played with that in forever but I'll see what I can do to help you |
| 14:53.23 | AstainHellbring | tmzt on the old ipaqs you could reflash bootloader and reflash os |
| 14:53.52 | Chlup | yes |
| 14:53.52 | Chlup | iam using this tutorial http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqHx4700HowtoInstallLinux |
| 14:53.52 | tmzt | I know you can in theory, and if you know how, great |
| 14:54.37 | Chlup | i wrote bootlr.rom to SD cart, but can't start reflash utility |
| 14:54.41 | AstainHellbring | I did it with my old 3630 ipaq |
| 14:54.54 | AstainHellbring | Chlup you're using the CF card right? |
| 14:55.31 | Chlup | in that tutorial i have to put bootloader to SD card, flash to to device and than boot from CF card |
| 14:55.46 | AstainHellbring | right |
| 14:56.25 | AstainHellbring | does it show anything on your screen when you try to get to bootloader? |
| 14:56.47 | Chlup | standard device bootloader from HP and than windows start booting |
| 14:57.58 | AstainHellbring | try holding down the buttons a little longer |
| 14:58.33 | Chlup | you are god ! |
| 14:58.36 | Chlup | it works ! |
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| 14:58.58 | Chlup | :) |
| 14:59.01 | Chlup | ok iam continuing |
| 15:00.12 | AstainHellbring | cool Chlup |
| 15:00.27 | tmzt | what buttons do you hold down? |
| 15:00.46 | AstainHellbring | for his Contacts and iTask |
| 15:00.58 | Chlup | but i hold it only for a sec |
| 15:01.04 | Chlup | it works holding little longer |
| 15:04.20 | Chlup | ok a rebooted now iam flashing from CF card |
| 15:06.33 | Chlup | i see penguin on the left upper corner, it lokks like familiar is booting |
| 15:07.32 | marajin | hey people |
| 15:07.51 | exception13 | all: |
| 15:08.29 | Chlup | i still see only penguin, should i have to worry now ? |
| 15:08.45 | AstainHellbring | hi marajin |
| 15:09.55 | AstainHellbring | Chlup so it completely flashed the familiar img right? |
| 15:11.25 | exception13 | peoples, what do you think about this http://www.toshiba-europe.com/mobile/microsites/index.aspx?pg=UK/G900/Main ? |
| 15:11.44 | exception13 | this have very low cost and many features |
| 15:11.58 | Chlup | yes, i flashed kernel image than root image |
| 15:15.36 | Chlup | still tux only, and its 10 minutes |
| 15:35.17 | tmzt | no panic? |
| 15:36.03 | tmzt | exception13: some people were working on linux for it, some here |
| 15:36.18 | tmzt | but most in a forum in another language |
| 15:36.53 | tmzt | Chu: no panic? |
| 15:37.01 | tmzt | Chlup: no panic? |
| 15:38.02 | Chlup | i wait half an hour and nothng more than tux |
| 15:38.10 | Chlup | so a restart and try flash it once again |
| 15:38.16 | Chlup | now iam flashing it |
| 15:38.33 | tmzt | no text at all? |
| 15:38.37 | Chlup | no text |
| 15:38.56 | tmzt | didn't think that was possible |
| 15:40.40 | Chlup | i see text |
| 15:40.47 | Chlup | tux and please wait: booting |
| 15:40.54 | Chlup | and blinking curtsor |
| 15:41.20 | Chlup | and now GPE |
| 15:41.25 | Chlup | screen :) |
| 15:42.00 | Chlup | GPE screen and booting please wait label, i think its great |
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| 15:47.42 | Chlup | still looking on GPE booting screen, losing my optimism |
| 15:50.46 | Chlup | cabration of display ! its working |
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| 15:52.14 | Chlup | its' working, thank you guys a lot |
| 15:53.26 | marajin | heh |
| 15:53.36 | marajin | the joy of a working linux eh? |
| 15:53.45 | Chlup | yes ! |
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| 16:02.08 | Untouchab1e | Hi all |
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| 16:06.56 | AstainHellbring | hi Untouchab1e |
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| 16:33.42 | exception13 | tmzt, The how much reliably this device? |
| 16:38.03 | exception13 | hm... ok. found on hh.org project for this |
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| 18:40.30 | tmzt | ~[6~[6~/wi 9 |
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| 19:16.24 | Gentoon | Whats up everyone? |
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| 20:00.08 | Gentoon | tmzt I found the PRL it was on my sd card lol |
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| 20:34.56 | marajin | harro |
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| 20:55.23 | Gentoon | hi |
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| 21:49.25 | marajin | it's rather quiet tonight huh? |
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| 22:03.28 | captnoord | marajin: |
| 22:03.29 | captnoord | dude |
| 22:03.54 | captnoord | can you ping 217.149.192.91 for me.... |
| 22:04.05 | captnoord | i'm collecting some data to kill my isp |
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| 22:37.16 | Untouchab1e | hi all |
| 22:38.15 | captnoord | yo |
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| 23:40.11 | marajin | hey captnoord, sorry was IAW/AFK |
| 23:40.15 | marajin | still need that ping? |
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| 23:40.19 | Untouchab1e | good evening :) |
| 23:40.19 | marajin | hey Untouchab1e |
| 23:40.23 | Untouchab1e | hi marajin |
| 23:40.25 | Untouchab1e | how's it going? |
| 23:40.37 | marajin | not bad |
| 23:40.42 | Untouchab1e | good :) |
| 23:41.01 | marajin | captnoord: it's answering fine but at about 50ms which is a tad high for anything modern, a dialup modem kinda response that :P |
| 23:41.34 | Untouchab1e | so, what you been up to? :) |
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| 23:41.52 | marajin | Untouchab1e: Not much, just trying to arrange some stuff so I can play with linux/android on my kovsky |
| 23:42.20 | marajin | I think xmoo is planning to release some stuff for testing at weekend |
| 23:42.23 | Untouchab1e | he, cool |
| 23:42.28 | Untouchab1e | testing for what? |
| 23:42.32 | Untouchab1e | which device I mean |
| 23:42.39 | marajin | Kovsky (Xperia X1) |
| 23:42.43 | Untouchab1e | ah, cool |
| 23:42.58 | marajin | kovsky would be an awesome android device :P |
| 23:43.03 | Untouchab1e | always wanted to give the X1 a go, even though I hear its quite slow |
| 23:43.09 | Untouchab1e | but yeah, it would be amazing for Android |
| 23:43.10 | marajin | it's not slow at all |
| 23:43.20 | marajin | hell it flies IMO |
| 23:43.29 | Untouchab1e | we are discussing it here.. http://www.htc-android.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=60&sid=35b7be268423f347e5c4e240118146f4&start=10 |
| 23:43.31 | marajin | beats the snot out of something like the kaiser |
| 23:43.32 | Untouchab1e | and he is saying: |
| 23:43.41 | Untouchab1e | it blazes compared to a kaiser in many regards but Xpanels are a bit laggy and video playback is abysmal unless you do very carefully crafted things |
| 23:43.54 | Untouchab1e | is what I've heard :) |
| 23:44.12 | marajin | Untouchab1e: man.. /who/ is saying? ;) |
| 23:44.19 | Untouchab1e | a guy on my forums :) |
| 23:44.26 | marajin | what's his name |
| 23:44.41 | Untouchab1e | lol.. |
| 23:44.46 | marajin | exactly :p |
| 23:44.51 | Untouchab1e | its you.. *blushes* |
| 23:44.53 | Untouchab1e | my bad.. Im tired.. haha |
| 23:44.57 | marajin | no worries |
| 23:45.14 | Untouchab1e | been working on getting the country flags implemented on the forums.. haha |
| 23:45.27 | Untouchab1e | been looking through so many lines of html-code, im getting dizzy |
| 23:45.32 | marajin | and yes the xpanels have a background you can change but it's not live shots of the panel |
| 23:46.03 | Untouchab1e | yeah, but what I was curious is that if you change the background of one of the panels, will that change be reflected in the panel overview? |
| 23:46.12 | marajin | Oh I see |
| 23:46.14 | Untouchab1e | or does the overview just display static "icons" of the panels |
| 23:46.49 | marajin | um I'm not sure, I thought ti was but at the minute my kovsky shows a standard Win Mobile today screen (the green one) but my kovsky is running a black diamond type theme with TF3D2 |
| 23:47.03 | Untouchab1e | hm |
| 23:47.10 | Untouchab1e | oh well, not a big deal |
| 23:48.46 | marajin | it may depend on the panel |
| 23:48.53 | marajin | but I think they're just static images |
| 23:49.32 | marajin | they're a cool concept but just not done well enough |
| 23:49.51 | marajin | it's not like you can't live update them, SPB thing does |
| 23:51.08 | marajin | I wish my guy in WM division could tell me what was going on with WM7/the MSM issue cause he says he knows but the NDA won't let him talk about it |
| 23:51.29 | AstainHasPS3 | msm wm7 issue? |
| 23:51.40 | marajin | AstainHasPS3: MSM issue as in bad acceleration/missing drivers. |
| 23:51.54 | marajin | WM7, as in, he works on Windows Mobile and so knows what's going on with WM7 |
| 23:51.59 | AstainHasPS3 | no surprise there |
| 23:52.04 | marajin | but since it's not even officially announced he can't say anything |
| 23:52.05 | Untouchab1e | ah |
| 23:52.19 | Untouchab1e | WM7 has been sealed pretty tight in terms of details |
| 23:52.25 | marajin | yeah |
| 23:52.41 | Untouchab1e | all we know for sure is that they are working on it.. and that it will most likely use the phone's camera as some kind of movement sensor or whatever |
| 23:52.41 | marajin | technically he's no longer part of WM division, they got released and are just a 'partner' or something now |
| 23:53.07 | marajin | they can't admit it's being worked on |
| 23:53.07 | marajin | heh |
| 23:53.13 | marajin | it is, as is WMDC 7 |
| 23:53.42 | marajin | WMDC 7 is supposedly rewritten from ground up to get rid of half the issues activesync/WMDC has |
| 23:53.55 | AstainHasPS3 | cool |
| 23:54.02 | Untouchab1e | ah, WMDC 7.. didnt know about that |
| 23:54.13 | marajin | and the MSM issue is supposedly both QC being idiots about the drivers and the chip just doesn't do what it claims |
| 23:54.34 | marajin | now he told me that WM7 would potentially solve some of the MSM issue |
| 23:54.37 | marajin | but can't give details |
| 23:55.35 | marajin | so when WM7 comes out.. might get something nice for anyone using a kaiser and upward |
| 23:55.49 | marajin | he says if you have < 128MB of system RAM on your device just forget running WM7 tho' |
| 23:56.06 | marajin | you can get it to load on a 64MB device (he tested it on a hermes) |
| 23:56.09 | marajin | but it runs like a dog |
| 23:56.48 | marajin | xda-dev chefs may do something about that, who knows |
| 23:57.30 | marajin | of course that's all 'if' WM7 exists and gets released |
| 23:57.45 | *** join/#htc-linux AstainHellbring (n=AstainHe@unaffiliated/astainhellbring) |
| 23:57.49 | marajin | wb AstainHasPS3 |
| 23:57.52 | marajin | er AstainHellbring |
| 23:58.06 | Untouchab1e | I dont suspect you know anything about a release date? :) |
| 23:58.15 | Untouchab1e | like, will we see WM7 in 2010? |
| 23:58.22 | marajin | naw, officially WM7 doesn't exist ;) |
| 23:58.33 | AstainHellbring | thx |
| 23:58.37 | AstainHellbring | fucking wireless |
| 23:58.37 | Untouchab1e | haha |
| 23:58.40 | Untouchab1e | what do you think then? |
| 23:58.42 | marajin | but eh.. 6.5 is september so you can guess 7 is early/mid 2010 |
| 23:58.45 | AstainHellbring | but its not that hidden everyone knows its coming |
| 23:58.58 | marajin | AstainHasPS3: yah but legally MS employees can't say so |
| 23:59.07 | marajin | they can only admit to a product if there's official press release about it |
| 23:59.15 | AstainHellbring | true |
| 23:59.43 | marajin | 6.5 is just a waste of time IMO, he couldn't tell me why they did 6.5 either |
| 23:59.57 | AstainHellbring | yah 6.5 is kinda lame |
| 23:59.59 | marajin | it's probably just a stopgap till 7 is ready |