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| 00:17.16 | *** join/#htc-linux dcordes (n=zsirc@ip-90-186-241-94.web.vodafone.de) |
| 00:18.55 | dcordes | maejrep ping |
| 00:19.02 | dcordes | hi all |
| 00:19.04 | maejrep | hi |
| 00:20.06 | dcordes | can you assist me with kovsky (xperia) microp keyboard? |
| 00:22.05 | dcordes | Idk where to start |
| 00:22.43 | dcordes | I need to trace microp base? |
| 00:24.02 | dcordes | maejrep ? |
| 00:24.24 | maejrep | is it i2c like raph? |
| 00:25.40 | dcordes | I don't have any evience I think |
| 00:25.49 | dcordes | it's jut an assumption |
| 00:25.58 | maejrep | have you traced i2c? |
| 00:26.16 | maejrep | and do you have the microp versions (displayed in SPL bootloader) |
| 00:26.27 | dcordes | yea I did something there with haret |
| 00:26.31 | maejrep | at least on raph ... probably on xperia too |
| 00:26.47 | maejrep | and did you see i2c chatter while pressing keys? |
| 00:26.51 | dcordes | I think we traced it |
| 00:27.04 | dcordes | and i was a different i2c base |
| 00:27.13 | dcordes | and it needs to be tried in driver |
| 00:27.24 | maejrep | you mean different phys or different virtual? |
| 00:27.25 | dcordes | never tried |
| 00:27.36 | maejrep | the physical address should be the same, just mapped differently in windows |
| 00:27.58 | dcordes | hmmmn |
| 00:28.09 | NetRipper | hi dcordes |
| 00:28.12 | maejrep | would need to see the haret trace to get anything out of it |
| 00:28.44 | NetRipper | dcordes, it seems you are able to change the topic of the channel, could you add http://irclog.netripper.com to it? |
| 00:29.01 | dcordes | gotta look it up in the log |
| 00:29.26 | NetRipper | its /msg chanserv topic #htc-linux <new topic> |
| 00:29.46 | NetRipper | (if you're authed) |
| 00:30.15 | NetRipper | oh i see you're on a mobile client |
| 00:30.19 | dcordes | NetRipper yeah |
| 00:30.25 | NetRipper | you can do it when you're comfy on a decent client :P |
| 00:30.37 | dcordes | I can |
| 00:30.53 | dcordes | I'm alo comfy with ti client |
| 00:31.05 | dcordes | nastrowje |
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| 00:34.23 | dcordes | NetRipper so what's up? enjoying the herb? |
| 00:34.33 | NetRipper | lol |
| 00:34.34 | NetRipper | herb? |
| 00:34.49 | dcordes | yes |
| 00:34.50 | NetRipper | im the last one to get high |
| 00:34.59 | maejrep | you should smoke faster |
| 00:35.02 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 00:35.03 | dcordes | who got high first?% |
| 00:35.24 | NetRipper | i dont smoke... it's a sin, i know |
| 00:36.01 | NetRipper | anyway im up to my ears in building a website for a relative of mine |
| 00:36.43 | NetRipper | when im done with that.. 1-2 months from now.. i hope to be able to continue hacking on the kernel |
| 00:37.00 | NetRipper | kinda missing it :) |
| 00:37.43 | *** join/#htc-linux xpto79 (n=afsrui@81.193.33.19) |
| 00:37.46 | NetRipper | so what've you been up to? havent seen you much on irc lately either |
| 00:38.14 | NetRipper | (many failed attempts to stalk you regarding the topic questions, but you werent here) |
| 00:38.26 | xpto79 | android on htc jade? help |
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| 00:38.46 | maejrep | dcordes: any luck with the trace? |
| 00:39.37 | dcordes | maejrepb can't trace it just yet |
| 00:40.59 | dcordes | NetRipper not much. community service, looking for uni.. |
| 00:41.23 | NetRipper | ah |
| 00:41.23 | dcordes | what's thepurpose of the website you making |
| 00:41.56 | NetRipper | it's a website for the youth of a community of villages over here |
| 00:42.35 | NetRipper | community as in a group of villages, instead of a group of persons |
| 00:42.50 | xpto79 | hi all... i'm trying to port android into an htc jade (htc touch 3g) with haret and got unandled exception while booting linux... anyone help :) ? |
| 00:43.32 | NetRipper | to inform the youth about activities and provide feedback to the city council |
| 00:43.53 | dcordes | that is a good thing |
| 00:44.08 | dcordes | is it fnanced by state? |
| 00:44.09 | NetRipper | it is, yes |
| 00:44.15 | NetRipper | yes |
| 00:44.17 | NetRipper | well |
| 00:44.19 | NetRipper | not the state |
| 00:44.30 | NetRipper | the villages together finance it |
| 00:45.39 | NetRipper | maejrep, what are you up to nowadays? havent seen many new commits, you busy with other things as well? :) |
| 00:45.57 | maejrep | yeah, work's working me to the bone ;o |
| 00:46.32 | NetRipper | aw |
| 00:46.33 | maejrep | by the time I get home, i'm so drained I just want to sleep, and don't get much of that as it is :p |
| 00:46.59 | NetRipper | heh thats too bad |
| 00:47.02 | dcordes | maejrep you doing software engineering? |
| 00:47.03 | NetRipper | work should give you energy tbh ;) |
| 00:47.15 | NetRipper | fun work at least |
| 00:47.35 | maejrep | oh I love my job, I just occasionally get projects with tight deadlines and have to work long hours to meet them |
| 00:47.39 | dcordes | maejrep you can do a refreshing week of janitor work |
| 00:47.41 | maejrep | dcordes: web development |
| 00:47.51 | dcordes | NetRipper I mean |
| 00:48.20 | NetRipper | dcordes, lol.. i'll stick to software engineering if you dont mind |
| 00:49.05 | dcordes | NetRipper you doing this frelance thing primarily now? |
| 00:49.56 | dcordes | +1e |
| 00:50.50 | NetRipper | dcordes, the website is freelance.. at work im a software engineer.. java/.net/web |
| 00:51.04 | dcordes | ah |
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| 00:51.25 | dcordes | .net whats it's microsoft language? |
| 00:51.38 | NetRipper | microsoft .net framework |
| 00:51.54 | NetRipper | its the framework in which you write c# etc |
| 00:52.15 | NetRipper | not limited to c# though |
| 00:53.04 | dcordes | somebody who knows a alot about programming told me c# is no much benefit over normal c |
| 00:53.12 | dcordes | is that correct? |
| 00:53.28 | *** join/#htc-linux cr2 (n=cr2@ip-90-187-110-253.web.vodafone.de) |
| 00:53.49 | maejrep | its drastically different from C, but probably closer to C++ and Java |
| 00:54.10 | dcordes | ohu |
| 00:54.12 | maejrep | switching between C and PHP is not hard for me, but what always gets me is switching between the coding styles :p |
| 00:54.31 | NetRipper | .net provides a lot of libraries to make stuff a lot easier |
| 00:54.42 | dcordes | isn't php somehting entirely diffenr and only for web dev |
| 00:54.47 | maejrep | at work we have a particular standard, and when I get into C, especially the kernel, it's an entirely different style :p |
| 00:54.51 | dcordes | oh yu j/k |
| 00:54.57 | maejrep | yes ;) |
| 00:55.14 | NetRipper | php is quite different, but can even be used for normal applications |
| 00:55.26 | maejrep | yeah |
| 00:55.27 | NetRipper | but its mainly geard towards web |
| 00:55.45 | NetRipper | it's a scripting language... c/c++/java/c# are languages that need compiling |
| 00:55.47 | maejrep | I have bots running on another irc network that have been up for months at a time |
| 00:55.49 | NetRipper | php doesn't |
| 00:56.06 | NetRipper | nrirclog is a php bot as well |
| 00:56.19 | dcordes | ah |
| 00:56.39 | maejrep | php does get compiled into opcode before execution, but you don't have to compile it - it does it automatically |
| 00:56.42 | dcordes | like python I like python |
| 00:56.45 | NetRipper | yes |
| 00:56.52 | maejrep | and then you can cache that opcode |
| 00:56.56 | NetRipper | python is an adversary |
| 00:56.57 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 00:57.04 | maejrep | to save the compile step |
| 00:57.36 | maejrep | we spend a lot of time optimizing our code :p |
| 00:57.45 | dcordes | somebody said it's not good to use python for modem server |
| 00:57.52 | maejrep | we hit the top 20 websites in the US a few months ago |
| 00:57.56 | dcordes | gsm ppp etc |
| 00:57.56 | NetRipper | maejrep do you use any particular frameworks for your webprojects? |
| 00:57.58 | maejrep | modem server? |
| 00:58.01 | dcordes | do you agree? |
| 00:58.22 | NetRipper | dcordes, i guess it doesn't matter what language you pick.. as long as you secure it properly |
| 00:58.24 | maejrep | NetRipper: yeah, my boss and I wrote a PHP5 framework (called Framewerk) several years ago, and when we both started working here, we started using it |
| 00:58.30 | dcordes | maejrep so you doing the big stuff hat's cool |
| 00:58.50 | NetRipper | maejrep, ah, is it public? |
| 00:58.58 | maejrep | yeah, but severely outdated |
| 00:59.05 | NetRipper | im looking into cakephp at the moment |
| 00:59.15 | NetRipper | seems lovely, but quite a learning curve |
| 00:59.16 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 00:59.17 | maejrep | we haven't backported our inhouse patches to the open repository yet |
| 00:59.25 | dcordes | cr2 said python is bad for modem stuff iirc |
| 00:59.55 | dcordes | maejrep what's tbe top 20 website url ? |
| 01:00.13 | maejrep | hmm, not sure, would have to search |
| 01:00.25 | cr2 | dcordes: i've said i will not use it for modem |
| 01:00.38 | NetRipper | heh |
| 01:00.44 | NetRipper | that's something different :) |
| 01:00.52 | maejrep | dcordes: from comscore |
| 01:00.56 | maejrep | http://www.myyearbook.com/press/release20/ |
| 01:01.27 | cr2 | NetRipper: i'll be at PDR in Brussels on mon/tue. hehe. no time for hacking recently ;) |
| 01:02.04 | NetRipper | cr2, what's pdr? |
| 01:02.16 | cr2 | preliminary design review |
| 01:02.36 | NetRipper | of what? |
| 01:02.53 | dcordes | nukesl |
| 01:02.57 | NetRipper | sounds more like a task than a meeting place |
| 01:02.58 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 01:03.15 | cr2 | there is a company that does software development for us, so i need to talk about our requirements and they will tell how they are going to implement it. |
| 01:03.22 | NetRipper | google agrees with me |
| 01:03.30 | NetRipper | ah |
| 01:03.54 | NetRipper | nice |
| 01:04.06 | dcordes | is it the company that sold th skype security comprimisng program to bka? |
| 01:04.15 | NetRipper | usually we're that company |
| 01:04.16 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 01:04.16 | dcordes | lol |
| 01:04.23 | cr2 | dcordes: not. nukes. at least not directly |
| 01:04.38 | NetRipper | cr2, just the subs that fire them? |
| 01:04.39 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 01:04.54 | cr2 | lol |
| 01:05.22 | cr2 | NetRipper: your company has all necesary security clearances ? :) |
| 01:05.40 | dcordes | cr2 I find it cool what you do |
| 01:06.08 | NetRipper | not sure.. we've done some stuff in defence and offence for the government, but not sure about what level |
| 01:06.10 | dcordes | you always seem important and have access to interesting stuffs |
| 01:06.43 | NetRipper | we have written the software for the scopes on some submarines |
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| 01:08.24 | dcordes | I wana do stuf like that |
| 01:08.48 | NetRipper | cr2, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCELHZqhsto&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ict.nl%2Fnl%2Fpromotie-films&feature=player_embedded that's the project.. partially spoken in dutch though |
| 01:08.57 | NetRipper | can't find the english version |
| 01:09.50 | NetRipper | have the english one on dvd locally :P |
| 01:10.47 | dcordes | wish I could see that |
| 01:11.08 | dcordes | what's in it |
| 01:11.36 | NetRipper | it's a promo video about the periscope project we did for the navy |
| 01:11.42 | maejrep | NetRipper: offense for the government? :p is that like treason? |
| 01:11.44 | maejrep | ;) |
| 01:11.59 | NetRipper | hehe |
| 01:12.18 | cr2 | dcordes: there are good and bad sides. as everywhere. |
| 01:12.27 | dcordes | pr0no vid of the gov |
| 01:12.29 | NetRipper | anything defense can be used as offsense |
| 01:12.33 | NetRipper | offence |
| 01:12.37 | NetRipper | werid typo |
| 01:12.50 | NetRipper | no it's a vid by our company ;) |
| 01:12.54 | jenkem_pusher | NetRipper.. harris corp? oo |
| 01:13.01 | NetRipper | to show our customers what we do |
| 01:13.16 | NetRipper | harris? |
| 01:13.22 | cr2 | HTTP Web Server: Lotus Notes Exception - Entry not found in index |
| 01:13.49 | maejrep | NetRipper: it's the american rubbing off on you ;p |
| 01:13.54 | dcordes | cr2 I think about biomedical engineering. but it's not easy in .de . only a few unis offer it |
| 01:14.58 | jenkem_pusher | dcordes.. btw - wie alt bist du? |
| 01:15.00 | NetRipper | cr2, we have establishments in germany as well btw ;) www.ict-se.de |
| 01:15.16 | NetRipper | [/sales] |
| 01:17.28 | dcordes | maejrep you rub on NetRipper? |
| 01:17.35 | maejrep | haha |
| 01:17.36 | NetRipper | yikes |
| 01:19.34 | cr2 | NetRipper: some interesting sequences in the film :) |
| 01:19.41 | NetRipper | :) |
| 01:20.29 | dcordes | cr2 you running flash on your machine?? |
| 01:20.40 | cr2 | need to compile a newer version of gnash |
| 01:20.54 | NetRipper | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39pxaJlLL_s this is a project i've been working on myself |
| 01:21.19 | dcordes | you guys should try gnash on raph. it's inOE |
| 01:21.23 | NetRipper | dutch as well unfortunately |
| 01:21.32 | cr2 | dcordes: gnash. and wit htt flashblocker anyway. |
| 01:22.07 | dcordes | does it work ell with youtube now? |
| 01:22.45 | cr2 | uuh. universal ? |
| 01:23.16 | NetRipper | anyway i got a mini lan party starting in the morning, time to get some sleep before i start the ownage |
| 01:23.26 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 01:23.28 | NetRipper | good night guys |
| 01:23.32 | dcordes | last time I tried gash had mad youtube glitches |
| 01:23.40 | dcordes | gn NetRipper |
| 01:23.56 | cr2 | it's interesting how widely the meris data are used |
| 01:24.09 | cr2 | good night |
| 01:24.10 | dcordes | NetRipper you invite htc-linux homies? |
| 01:24.30 | NetRipper | i havent, but if you're into gaming we could? ;) |
| 01:24.47 | dcordes | yea what games you play? |
| 01:24.55 | NetRipper | first person shooters mostly |
| 01:24.56 | cr2 | yeah, it 's the universal :) |
| 01:24.58 | dcordes | I like command &conquer |
| 01:25.11 | NetRipper | im a sore loser on rts games |
| 01:25.11 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 01:25.33 | dcordes | I'm good at fps |
| 01:26.01 | NetRipper | we'll be playing battlefield, unreal tournament, flatout (racing) and of course, bomberman |
| 01:26.12 | NetRipper | just a one day event |
| 01:26.23 | NetRipper | with 7 other guys |
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| 01:27.41 | azenned | hi |
| 01:27.48 | maejrep | NetRipper: GameSurge ? :p |
| 01:28.20 | NetRipper | maejrep, im not using that.. you can add me on steam though |
| 01:28.20 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 01:28.28 | maejrep | lol |
| 01:28.37 | maejrep | I'm an oper on GS, that's why I asked :p |
| 01:28.41 | NetRipper | ah |
| 01:28.51 | maejrep | I haven't played CS or any other steam game in over a year |
| 01:29.05 | NetRipper | hehe i just started playing cs1.6 again |
| 01:29.16 | NetRipper | every now and then |
| 01:29.26 | NetRipper | its fun, and keeps me sharp |
| 01:29.26 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 01:29.48 | cr2 | propaganda film for the htc universal :) |
| 01:30.11 | NetRipper | haha yes |
| 01:30.53 | dcordes | NetRipper which bf? |
| 01:31.10 | NetRipper | it's a pain as you can clearly see the fake video overlay on the app we made, while the real video stream was pretty impressive too |
| 01:31.45 | NetRipper | dcordes, well from the mailings i understood we're going to play bf vietnam tomorrow |
| 01:31.48 | NetRipper | never played that one before |
| 01:31.56 | dcordes | it sucks |
| 01:31.57 | NetRipper | i usually play desert combat or bf2 |
| 01:32.07 | dcordes | yea the real deal |
| 01:32.20 | dcordes | dc is best, bf2 is ok |
| 01:32.30 | dcordes | bf2 is dc knock off |
| 01:32.35 | NetRipper | hehe yes |
| 01:32.37 | NetRipper | upped gfs |
| 01:32.38 | NetRipper | gfx |
| 01:32.43 | dcordes | yeah |
| 01:37.03 | cr2 | good night |
| 01:38.05 | Marajin | hey dcordes |
| 01:38.21 | dcordes | Marajin yoj joining the lan party? |
| 01:38.25 | dcordes | free drinks |
| 01:38.26 | Marajin | what lan party? |
| 01:38.29 | NetRipper | lol |
| 01:38.31 | Marajin | I wasn't informed! |
| 01:38.35 | Marajin | why wasn't I informed? |
| 01:38.44 | dcordes | NetRipper you play at your place? |
| 01:38.54 | NetRipper | nope at a friends place |
| 01:39.00 | NetRipper | you whoised my domain? |
| 01:39.01 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 01:39.47 | dcordes | is it far from duesseldorf? |
| 01:39.57 | NetRipper | you know rotterdam? |
| 01:40.11 | dcordes | I have a good laptop I can run bf on |
| 01:40.14 | dcordes | b |
| 01:40.17 | dcordes | yes |
| 01:40.29 | NetRipper | 20km to the southeast of it |
| 01:40.29 | Marajin | drat, you would go and be foreign on me or I'd come whip you at UT/Flatout |
| 01:41.06 | Marajin | starts humming, 'This could be rotterdam.. or anywhere.. liverpoooool or rome.. cause rotterdam is anywhere.. anywhere but hooooome... anywhere but home' |
| 01:41.35 | Marajin | dcordes: one day we SHOULD have a htc-linux lanparty ;) |
| 01:41.52 | dcordes | yea |
| 01:42.03 | NetRipper | Marajin, that's kinda offensive :P |
| 01:42.09 | dcordes | you always welcome at my placd. |
| 01:42.09 | Marajin | NetRipper: I know :P |
| 01:42.28 | NetRipper | well its only a 2 hour drive dcordes |
| 01:42.35 | Marajin | NetRipper: but that is what the song says! and I can't help but think of it if someone says rotterdam |
| 01:42.39 | NetRipper | hehe |
| 01:42.45 | NetRipper | glad i dont live IN rotterdam |
| 01:42.57 | NetRipper | i'd be one of them idiots that bash other peoples heads in |
| 01:43.07 | Marajin | heh.. fallout for win mobile |
| 01:43.07 | Marajin | neat |
| 01:43.13 | NetRipper | !? |
| 01:43.17 | NetRipper | it exists? |
| 01:43.18 | Marajin | pity the russian devs can't speak english worth a damn |
| 01:43.22 | Marajin | NetRipper: certainly does |
| 01:43.30 | Marajin | http://www.pocketfallout.net |
| 01:43.39 | Marajin | even works on WVGA I hear |
| 01:43.41 | NetRipper | nice lol |
| 01:43.43 | dcordes | I play monkey island II on kovsky |
| 01:43.58 | Marajin | dcordes: scummvm's VGA mode bugs me :( |
| 01:44.00 | dcordes | how can I get the mardy gras costume on booty islnd? |
| 01:44.04 | NetRipper | oh lol i read flatout |
| 01:44.16 | Marajin | NetRipper: 'sok, fallout is clearly superior to flatout ;) |
| 01:44.19 | dcordes | Marajin check sucmmvm.org forum. |
| 01:44.31 | Marajin | dcordes: I know how to make it run man I just hate the blank pixels |
| 01:45.03 | Marajin | I really don't get why the forum people get so anti WVGA |
| 01:45.06 | NetRipper | the gfx remind me of ufo enemy unknown |
| 01:45.20 | Marajin | NetRipper: heh, UFO rocked... it was evil, but it rocked. |
| 01:45.29 | Marajin | NetRipper: my friend just bought me the x-com complete set on steam |
| 01:45.31 | dcordes | UFO? |
| 01:45.34 | NetRipper | lol |
| 01:45.46 | NetRipper | i had some good time in the old days |
| 01:45.57 | NetRipper | but i installed it recently, and it bored the beep outta me |
| 01:45.58 | dcordes | classic I missed |
| 01:46.04 | Marajin | dcordes: x-com started life as UFO: Enemy unknown, was changed to x-com: UFO defense after they tried to sell it in the US |
| 01:46.31 | Marajin | NetRipper: heh, I remember the evilness, I once died in a single turn. A rocket went INTO the landing craft |
| 01:46.51 | NetRipper | heh |
| 01:46.54 | NetRipper | bugs rock |
| 01:47.01 | Marajin | oh it wasn't a bug |
| 01:47.05 | Marajin | it was just the game being evil |
| 01:47.11 | NetRipper | hehe |
| 01:47.24 | Marajin | pocketufo won't run on the kovsky :( |
| 01:47.24 | NetRipper | you know atomic bomberman? |
| 01:47.30 | Marajin | well yeah, of course |
| 01:47.36 | dcordes | Marajin you do strategy games? |
| 01:47.39 | NetRipper | i really love that game.. it has random bugs that are always unexpected |
| 01:47.43 | Marajin | dcordes: I do any game |
| 01:47.43 | NetRipper | give this nice edge to the game |
| 01:48.04 | dcordes | Marajin got red alert 3? |
| 01:48.08 | Marajin | didn't someone try to bomb the office of the bomberman devs? |
| 01:48.13 | NetRipper | weird deceases that you can catch out of the blue |
| 01:48.16 | NetRipper | err |
| 01:48.18 | NetRipper | i didnt know that |
| 01:48.22 | Marajin | dcordes: umm, yes but only if I wear an eyepatch and speak funny |
| 01:48.41 | NetRipper | it's too bad starting from vista there's no more ipx/spx |
| 01:48.59 | dcordes | cpt Marajin |
| 01:49.14 | Marajin | heh |
| 01:49.28 | dcordes | you also c&c hater? |
| 01:49.40 | Marajin | I own every game up to and including C&C 3 |
| 01:49.45 | Marajin | legally bought |
| 01:49.48 | Marajin | some of them, twice |
| 01:49.51 | NetRipper | i played the first few levels of red alert 3 as well |
| 01:50.06 | NetRipper | it's fun, but i hate playing against other players |
| 01:50.11 | NetRipper | (i always lose) |
| 01:50.26 | Marajin | e.g. I bought RA1 at release, and then I bought the first decade box set so I own it twice |
| 01:50.30 | Marajin | same is true of tiberian sun |
| 01:50.34 | dcordes | I didn't like the ra3 campaign |
| 01:50.46 | Marajin | RA3 > C&C 3 though |
| 01:50.47 | Marajin | funnier |
| 01:50.48 | dcordes | slowly getting better in tournaments |
| 01:51.07 | Marajin | honestly more of a Dawn of War gamer though |
| 01:51.15 | dcordes | ughhh |
| 01:51.20 | dcordes | sucks |
| 01:51.21 | Marajin | pity Dawn of War 2 sucks more <bleep> than cheap thai whores |
| 01:51.27 | NetRipper | anyhows i really gtg to bed now |
| 01:51.29 | NetRipper | night guys |
| 01:51.31 | NetRipper | :) |
| 01:51.32 | Marajin | night NetRipper |
| 01:51.33 | dcordes | cya |
| 01:51.36 | Marajin | have fun at the party |
| 01:51.41 | Marajin | frag a noob for me |
| 01:51.44 | NetRipper | thx ;) laters! |
| 01:51.47 | NetRipper | that'll be easy |
| 01:51.49 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 01:51.53 | Marajin | it always is ;) |
| 01:52.05 | dcordes | ye hf |
| 01:52.06 | Marajin | I got sick of being accuse of aimbotting back in the days of UT99 |
| 01:52.39 | dcordes | ut is first unreal tournament? |
| 01:53.02 | Marajin | my friend once broke UT99 by redeemering the spawn spot in CTF-FacingWorlds |
| 01:53.18 | dcordes | s/ut/ut99/ |
| 01:53.19 | Marajin | dcordes: UT99 is first UT, then 2k3, 2k4, 3 (2007) |
| 01:53.44 | dcordes | ok I got ut99 us prerelease uncut copy |
| 01:53.52 | dcordes | loved it |
| 01:54.13 | Marajin | I bought UT99 at release, some bastard stole my disc ages ago |
| 01:54.20 | Marajin | I rebought it on steam |
| 01:54.31 | dcordes | redeemer spam was dangerous indeed |
| 01:55.09 | Marajin | was a common spawn spot and he redeemered during a busy spawning so they spawned went boom and respawned in the middle of a redeemer blast and went boom again ..rinse and repeat |
| 01:55.15 | dcordes | NetRipper company programmed the scope |
| 01:55.34 | Marajin | so the game started going 'h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho... ' you get the idea |
| 01:55.47 | dcordes | hehyea |
| 01:55.56 | Marajin | it was trying to say 'Holy shit!' about 50 times simultaenously |
| 01:56.13 | Marajin | and then the net server crashed |
| 01:56.57 | dcordes | lol the radio messaes wer funny |
| 01:57.12 | dcordes | mmmmulti kill |
| 01:57.22 | Marajin | yeah :p |
| 01:57.58 | Marajin | 'Double kill! Multi Kill! Mega kill! Ultra Kill! Holy Shit!' |
| 01:58.10 | Marajin | in later UTs it adds 'Wicked SICK!' to the end |
| 01:58.21 | Marajin | oh I missed 'monster kill' |
| 01:58.29 | Marajin | it was monster kill not holy shit wasn't it |
| 01:58.40 | Marajin | holy shit was when you got your kills-to-deaths ratio too high |
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| 01:59.22 | Marajin | dcordes: anyway man, so should we get cracking on the kovsky at some point? |
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| 02:00.54 | Marajin | (also UT2k3/4 always shout 'FLAK MONKEY!' at me... <.< >.> |
| 02:00.56 | Marajin | ) |
| 02:04.38 | Marajin | (And the repeated m was only on monster kill as I remember..) |
| 02:05.08 | dcordes | Marajin can't recall the kill order. yea we can try keyboard |
| 02:05.30 | dcordes | need to check logs for the tracing tomorrow |
| 02:05.45 | Marajin | I'm going to bed soon but where's the current working files for zImage/rootfs ? |
| 02:07.10 | dcordes | idk only have my kernel builds based on obsoletemodified raphael kern |
| 02:07.19 | Marajin | ah |
| 02:07.25 | Marajin | well we'll sort it out tomorrow |
| 02:07.36 | dcordes | with the panel reolution / touchscreen modification |
| 02:07.48 | dcordes | and naming |
| 02:07.51 | Marajin | what's with the upside down display anyway? |
| 02:08.00 | dcordes | lol no clue |
| 02:08.13 | dcordes | been wondering too |
| 02:08.22 | Marajin | maybe the kovsky has upside down panel ;) |
| 02:08.37 | dcordes | yea... but for what reason |
| 02:08.42 | Marajin | it is sony after all, maybe they insisted everything be backwards like the PS3 |
| 02:08.51 | dcordes | lol |
| 02:09.10 | Marajin | but what I don't get is why it's hard to fix |
| 02:09.14 | dcordes | ps3 also has housing cracks? |
| 02:09.24 | Marajin | haha, probably dunno |
| 02:09.28 | Marajin | besides mine has no sign of cracking yet |
| 02:10.15 | dcordes | I suppose they changed something about the plastic material used in newer revs |
| 02:10.25 | dcordes | wonder if theres an official statement |
| 02:10.35 | Marajin | it'd be stupid not to have |
| 02:10.39 | Marajin | but no statement AFAIK |
| 02:11.14 | dcordes | hmn I still didn't have mine repaired |
| 02:11.29 | Marajin | you bought a kovsky? thought you got a raph? |
| 02:11.35 | dcordes | think I should ask SE directly? |
| 02:11.47 | dcordes | naaah got the kovsky |
| 02:12.21 | dcordes | kracksky |
| 02:12.29 | dcordes | hrhrhrr |
| 02:13.22 | dcordes | anyway |
| 02:13.38 | dcordes | 3am |
| 02:13.58 | Marajin | meh |
| 02:14.05 | dcordes | Marajin let's see if we can get something working tomorrow |
| 02:14.13 | Marajin | dcordes: dunno, my carrier promised to replace mine themselves |
| 02:14.16 | Marajin | if it ever cracked |
| 02:14.37 | Marajin | they said nobody on their customers ever complained about cracks before though, though I'm not sure I believe 'em |
| 02:14.37 | dcordes | nice |
| 02:14.48 | dcordes | my carrier is t-mobleNL |
| 02:14.52 | Marajin | so I was like 'well google it' |
| 02:14.59 | Marajin | t-mobile are meh |
| 02:15.08 | dcordes | but I'm no contractor. just got the device/bill |
| 02:15.27 | Marajin | you bought the handset sim free? |
| 02:15.36 | dcordes | yea |
| 02:15.57 | Marajin | getting t-mobile to do anything would be tricky then |
| 02:16.10 | Marajin | presumeably you do need to shout at SE |
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| 02:16.18 | Marajin | 'lo ALoGeNo |
| 02:16.18 | dcordes | the guy who sol it told me I have normal warranty |
| 02:16.22 | ALoGeNo | hi all |
| 02:16.27 | dcordes | ALoGeNo hi there |
| 02:16.33 | Marajin | dcordes: yes but SE warranty not carrier warranty |
| 02:16.37 | ALoGeNo | hey Marajin & dcordes |
| 02:16.48 | ALoGeNo | wasup :) |
| 02:16.53 | dcordes | Marajin think there's a vital chance to get se warrant? |
| 02:16.55 | dcordes | y |
| 02:17.03 | Marajin | anyway man, go sleep, we'll chat tomorrow and take a look at keyboard |
| 02:17.09 | Marajin | um, you bought it from shop or? |
| 02:17.13 | Marajin | second hand ? |
| 02:17.15 | dcordes | ALoGeNo nothing new. you borrowing internet? |
| 02:17.37 | dcordes | Marajin 2nd |
| 02:17.39 | ALoGeNo | yep thats it |
| 02:17.39 | ALoGeNo | xd |
| 02:17.52 | dcordes | ALoGeNo uni still working well? |
| 02:17.55 | Marajin | in a world full of unsecured wifi, it's not even borrowing internet anymore, it's just using a commodity like breathing air |
| 02:18.10 | Marajin | dcordes: erk, how old is device? |
| 02:18.21 | Marajin | .. No kovsky could be out of warranty yet I think though |
| 02:18.28 | dcordes | Marajin like november 08 |
| 02:18.29 | ALoGeNo | yeah work like a devol, but axc still falling |
| 02:18.30 | Marajin | can't be more than 6 months old yet |
| 02:18.43 | dcordes | good |
| 02:18.45 | Marajin | dcordes: yours is an at-release model? |
| 02:19.04 | dcordes | at-release? sorywhatsthat |
| 02:19.18 | dcordes | warning Main BAttery Low |
| 02:19.23 | Marajin | dcordes: the kovsky you have was bought originally when the kovsky was only just released I mean? |
| 02:19.38 | dcordes | Marajin let me see bill |
| 02:19.45 | Marajin | ok |
| 02:19.56 | ALoGeNo | still with the same problem.., im thinking in recompile acx module with the hh patches or openembedded patches |
| 02:20.13 | ALoGeNo | maybe later |
| 02:20.28 | Marajin | ALoGeNo: so why must youborrow internet? |
| 02:20.41 | dcordes | yea november 2thousadandeight |
| 02:21.05 | Marajin | dcordes: explains cracks |
| 02:21.18 | Marajin | but is only 4 1/2 months old |
| 02:21.32 | Marajin | so warranty must be valid |
| 02:22.31 | ALoGeNo | Marajin becose im poor, and still without work.,.. |
| 02:22.37 | ALoGeNo | good reason.. no? |
| 02:22.40 | dcordes | no matter who bought it? |
| 02:22.45 | Marajin | ALoGeNo: heh, come here you can leech mine for free |
| 02:22.54 | ALoGeNo | :) |
| 02:23.01 | dcordes | Marajin you in spain, no? |
| 02:23.11 | dcordes | ALoGeNo sry |
| 02:23.14 | ALoGeNo | him is in uk i think |
| 02:23.20 | Marajin | dcordes: I've known sony replace vaio laptops like that, I figure they'd do it for the phone |
| 02:23.27 | ALoGeNo | yea im in sapin |
| 02:23.29 | ALoGeNo | spain* |
| 02:23.32 | Marajin | spain? naw mate, I can't even SPEAK spanish |
| 02:23.48 | ALoGeNo | puedo hablar español si lo preferis |
| 02:23.49 | dcordes | no te apures |
| 02:23.50 | ALoGeNo | ;D |
| 02:24.09 | dcordes | no I was just curious |
| 02:24.11 | Marajin | I said I can't speak it, not I can't read it :p |
| 02:24.11 | ALoGeNo | hey dcordes nice spanish.. D: |
| 02:24.23 | dcordes | you can work for network security lol |
| 02:24.29 | ALoGeNo | xD |
| 02:24.43 | ALoGeNo | i wanna do but ... you see.. |
| 02:25.32 | ALoGeNo | the ppl only say.. hey can you broke weps for me?? |
| 02:25.41 | Marajin | haha |
| 02:25.49 | ALoGeNo | and me... NO... search your self.. |
| 02:26.00 | Marajin | tell them 'break it? I read your daughter's cyber sex IM logs already yesterday' |
| 02:26.04 | ALoGeNo | by your self* |
| 02:26.06 | Marajin | heh |
| 02:26.45 | ALoGeNo | who wants broke weps.. must learn by his self.. |
| 02:26.50 | ALoGeNo | and dot.. |
| 02:26.53 | ALoGeNo | XD |
| 02:26.58 | Marajin | swap daughter with wife/girlfriend/etc as appropriate of course |
| 02:27.24 | ALoGeNo | hehe, that is another situation.. :) of course |
| 02:27.44 | Marajin | I feel sorry for some parents, I see many dodgy things when I fix computers |
| 02:27.52 | Marajin | but I shouldn't tell them their kids are being perverts online |
| 02:28.39 | ALoGeNo | hehe, the family have access granted, but the ppl.. only want all for free.. |
| 02:28.41 | AstainHasPS3 | lol Marajin |
| 02:29.08 | ALoGeNo | and if you have money you pay.. |
| 02:29.30 | ALoGeNo | you have a BMW and you want internet for free? |
| 02:29.33 | ALoGeNo | gratis?? |
| 02:29.35 | ALoGeNo | XD |
| 02:29.37 | ALoGeNo | NOPE! |
| 02:29.53 | Marajin | heh |
| 02:29.58 | Marajin | it could be a crap BMW |
| 02:30.17 | dcordes | :D |
| 02:30.19 | Marajin | but most BMW drivers are a special kinda people |
| 02:30.29 | Marajin | if you ask Jeremy clarkson he says they're all 'cocks' |
| 02:30.33 | ALoGeNo | you want support for free in your pc? hehe man... i need money.. you pay me and i repair your computer np ;) |
| 02:31.21 | Marajin | ALoGeNo: I charge everyone 20 euro/hour :P |
| 02:31.35 | ALoGeNo | thats the way.. |
| 02:31.38 | dcordes | I don't repair computers any longer |
| 02:31.49 | ALoGeNo | i here around 10 |
| 02:31.53 | dcordes | where is 'control panel' in vista |
| 02:32.00 | ALoGeNo | xd |
| 02:32.12 | Marajin | dcordes: yeah you need a lot of patience or the ability to just turn your brain off when doing it |
| 02:32.18 | Marajin | cause people do such stupid things |
| 02:32.19 | dcordes | haha |
| 02:32.26 | ALoGeNo | ahahah |
| 02:32.43 | ALoGeNo | your very funny guys lol |
| 02:32.44 | dcordes | I always recommend to get rid of xp because it's a downgrade |
| 02:32.45 | Marajin | 'I don't need ADSL Modem, I just hammer RJ45 plug into phone socket!' |
| 02:33.00 | ALoGeNo | xd |
| 02:33.07 | Marajin | no really, that happened |
| 02:33.12 | ALoGeNo | cable? |
| 02:33.19 | Marajin | he hammered an RJ45 plug into his phone socket |
| 02:33.27 | ALoGeNo | rdsi? |
| 02:33.31 | Marajin | no he had ADSL connection |
| 02:33.39 | Marajin | but he said modems are conspiracy |
| 02:33.40 | dcordes | from 56K pci modem? |
| 02:33.46 | ALoGeNo | xd |
| 02:34.05 | Marajin | dcordes: RJ45 man, 56k modems used RJ11. He hammered ethernet cable into wallsocket |
| 02:34.15 | Marajin | and UK phone socket != RJ11, they're a special plug |
| 02:34.19 | dcordes | ah into the wall |
| 02:34.23 | Marajin | so he shorted the wires out and his phone stopped working |
| 02:34.28 | dcordes | that's funny |
| 02:34.40 | dcordes | guten tag |
| 02:35.02 | Marajin | man.. flash back to school at the german exchange students |
| 02:35.16 | Marajin | I confused them so much, poor koelners.. |
| 02:35.49 | dcordes | they drink the wrong beer |
| 02:36.21 | Marajin | 'Guten tag!' 'Nein! Ist schlecten Tag! Oops, Wo ist mein Erdbehr (can't spell this word anymore..), Knussknacker! Knussknacker! Meep!' |
| 02:36.36 | Marajin | and they'd just stand there for 5 minutes looking confused |
| 02:36.45 | ALoGeNo | ah..., here rj45 in the wall is only for RDSI (i dont know how is that on english) that is 2 lines in parallel at 64kb |
| 02:36.54 | Marajin | ALoGeNo: ISDN |
| 02:36.58 | Marajin | probably |
| 02:37.02 | ALoGeNo | exacto :) |
| 02:37.18 | dcordes | dual line isdn |
| 02:37.24 | Marajin | yeah |
| 02:37.27 | ALoGeNo | exactly |
| 02:38.09 | ALoGeNo | tmzt hi over there ^^ |
| 02:38.43 | Marajin | ALoGeNo: he pretending to be asleep so nobody ask him questions ;) |
| 02:38.58 | ALoGeNo | haha :) |
| 02:39.07 | Marajin | dcordes: so are you going to bed or not man? :p |
| 02:39.37 | ALoGeNo | np i havent questions for him.., only for say hello :) |
| 02:39.55 | Marajin | ALoGeNo: yes but if he say hello back then everyone pounce on him cause they see he's awake! |
| 02:40.05 | ALoGeNo | xD |
| 02:40.21 | ALoGeNo | oki doki |
| 02:40.50 | Marajin | sssh.. be vewy vewy quiet.. I's hunting linux hackers mehehehehehe.. |
| 02:41.31 | Marajin | </Elmer Fudd> |
| 02:42.12 | ALoGeNo | haha |
| 02:42.48 | Marajin | anyway, dcordes wants to have htc-linux lan gaming party and he buy everyone free drinks ;) :p |
| 02:44.16 | ALoGeNo | give me a freeze beer.. (pleeeease) ^^ |
| 02:44.37 | Marajin | haha, I have a fridge full of budweiser you can have, I won't drink it, I only drink proper beer |
| 02:45.06 | Marajin | my dad messed up at store some months ago and so I have like 40 bottles of it |
| 02:45.21 | AstainHasPS3 | ouch |
| 02:45.55 | Marajin | AstainHasPS3: meh I don't care, he paid for it ;) |
| 02:46.08 | Marajin | besides, it's a cheap beer |
| 02:46.35 | ALoGeNo | budweisser croac! |
| 02:46.37 | ALoGeNo | xd |
| 02:46.57 | ALoGeNo | heineken for the masses ^^ |
| 02:47.03 | AstainHasPS3 | chug it fast enough you'll never know the difference? |
| 02:47.19 | Marajin | AstainHasPS3: I'd know, oh I'd /know/ |
| 02:47.31 | Marajin | see if it was 40 guinness I'd be much happier |
| 02:47.46 | AstainHasPS3 | lol |
| 02:47.48 | Marajin | 40 dark ales of some kind and I'd be ectatic |
| 02:48.23 | Marajin | well actually guinness or ales they'd already be gone :p |
| 02:49.18 | Marajin | I got scotch, ALoGeNo you drink scotch? :p |
| 02:49.49 | AstainHasPS3 | guess I wouldn't know... not a drinker here |
| 02:49.59 | ALoGeNo | here the popular beer is mahou |
| 02:50.16 | ALoGeNo | later san miguel, and el aguila |
| 02:50.33 | Rooster99991 | mentioning guinness makes me want to get a 12 pack of Schlaflys Irish-Style Extra Stout |
| 02:51.12 | ALoGeNo | and you can take two, carlsber and heineken in every place.. |
| 02:51.28 | ALoGeNo | too* |
| 02:51.44 | ALoGeNo | coronita |
| 02:52.00 | ALoGeNo | mmm and some cheap brands... |
| 02:52.25 | ALoGeNo | the importation beer is more spensive |
| 02:52.45 | Rooster99991 | mmmm pabst blue lol |
| 02:53.00 | Rooster99991 | or some Old English |
| 02:53.28 | Rooster99991 | Im pretty sure you can still get 4 16oz cans for $1.79 |
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| 02:53.45 | marajin | whoops |
| 02:54.09 | marajin | sorry if I spammed any garbled messages |
| 02:54.35 | marajin | I was gonna say, AstainHasPS3: Well I guess someone has to be, to donate their liver when mine dies ;) |
| 02:55.01 | AstainHasPS3 | lol |
| 02:55.30 | Rooster99991 | with this economy I know plenty of ppl that might be going right past the liver replacement step :/ |
| 02:55.33 | marajin | always look on the bright side and all |
| 02:57.18 | ALoGeNo | the people is back to make his own beer in theys alambiques (or watherver) laboratorys.. |
| 02:57.45 | ALoGeNo | and made very very good beer :) |
| 03:00.38 | marajin | cool |
| 03:00.43 | marajin | ALoGeNo: did they give free samples? |
| 03:01.25 | ALoGeNo | mmm nopes.. |
| 03:01.35 | marajin | drat, foiled again eh? |
| 03:01.48 | ALoGeNo | but do little productions.. |
| 03:02.02 | ALoGeNo | 500u |
| 03:02.20 | ALoGeNo | i see that in news in the TV the other week |
| 03:02.27 | marajin | bah, could drink that in 5 seconds |
| 03:02.34 | ALoGeNo | xDD |
| 03:03.27 | ALoGeNo | but you can build your own laboratory in the garage.., and you can take good bear.., and you have the beer ready in bottles.. xD |
| 03:06.23 | marajin | haha, you can buy home beer kits yep |
| 03:06.56 | ALoGeNo | yes.. that the way :) |
| 03:07.03 | ALoGeNo | thats* |
| 03:08.25 | marajin | viva the free beer! |
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| 07:17.33 | groove | hi, i've got a niki100 and i've managed to boot working android a few times but only randomly |
| 07:17.56 | groove | i haven't changed any configs but it only sometimes works, most times it gets stuck at the end of the bar graph in HaRET |
| 07:18.02 | groove | any suggestions? |
| 07:20.57 | tmzt | cool |
| 07:21.16 | tmzt | it could be similar to the titan problem |
| 07:21.38 | tmzt | the amount of heap available I think |
| 07:25.53 | groove | tmzt: is that in response to what i just said? |
| 07:26.09 | tmzt | yes |
| 07:26.37 | groove | can you point me in the direction of a forums thread or something? |
| 07:26.51 | tmzt | you might have to see if you can build a rom with larger pool or whatever it's called |
| 07:26.59 | tmzt | is there a niki forum? |
| 07:27.02 | groove | yes |
| 07:27.18 | groove | http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=404 |
| 07:27.58 | groove | bizarre that if the heap memory is smaller than necessary it still boots occasionally |
| 07:28.04 | groove | i never have any other applications open |
| 07:28.33 | tmzt | not sure |
| 07:28.38 | groove | maybe it would work if i recompiled the kernel without some features |
| 07:28.43 | tmzt | maybe lcd init is different |
| 07:29.04 | tmzt | do you have htc console enabled? |
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| 07:29.22 | groove | i have no idea |
| 07:29.33 | groove | i only bought this phone about a week ago so all this stuff is new to me |
| 07:29.41 | tmzt | normally these devices stop at handover randomly |
| 07:29.54 | tmzt | did you build the kernel? |
| 07:30.26 | groove | no, it is from the "latest" boot kit - Bootkit_03_20_2k9.rar |
| 07:31.00 | tmzt | from where? |
| 07:31.31 | groove | it is linked to from the nike/niki android thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441999 |
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| 08:15.03 | Perkka | the cat changed video on youtube :X |
| 08:22.25 | groove | tmzt: would it matter which radio rom version i'm using if i'm having problems like these so early in the boot process? |
| 08:22.54 | tmzt | probably not |
| 08:24.19 | tmzt | are you able to build a current vogue kernel? |
| 08:56.47 | groove | i haven't built a kernel for htc ever so i'll have to find a guide and give it a try |
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| 15:15.35 | _silencer | hi |
| 15:15.57 | tmzt | hello |
| 15:16.08 | tmzt | AstainHasPS3: hey |
| 15:16.22 | _silencer | you known if there has been any talk on a warper for wince drivers on linux? |
| 15:16.40 | tmzt | what? |
| 15:16.48 | _silencer | i guess the bigest problem porting linux is getting drivers |
| 15:17.07 | _silencer | something like wine(userspace) but for kernel space |
| 15:17.41 | tmzt | what are you asking |
| 15:18.14 | tmzt | are you talking about a specific device? |
| 15:18.27 | _silencer | no general |
| 15:19.32 | tmzt | drivers are a problem but that's not likely to be a solution |
| 15:20.12 | lupine_85 | works for wifi ot TWAIN on PCs, but unliklely to be much help on an embedded platform |
| 15:20.40 | _silencer | i known it has been done on x86 |
| 15:21.05 | lupine_85 | TWAIN and wifi are two specific exceptions where it's feasible to do so |
| 15:21.16 | lupine_85 | as long as the hardware access method is well-documented |
| 15:21.22 | lupine_85 | (i.e., PCI or USB) |
| 15:21.44 | _silencer | wince drivers directly access hardware? |
| 15:22.08 | lupine_85 | that's what drivers *do* |
| 15:23.54 | _silencer | yes, sorry my english isn't that good |
| 15:24.28 | _silencer | i wanted to known if wince has something like a driver hal model |
| 15:24.43 | _silencer | strict rules to implement drivers |
| 15:25.03 | _silencer | i guess most hardware is memory mapped? |
| 15:25.23 | lupine_85 | there's a given API that the driver has to expose, but yeah, most internal access is mmio AFAIK |
| 15:25.38 | _silencer | ok thank you :) |
| 15:26.21 | _silencer | the exposed api is well documented and is easy to get? |
| 15:26.30 | lupine_85 | mm, definitely |
| 15:26.42 | lupine_85 | it's documented on MSDN |
| 15:26.51 | _silencer | great just like normal windows |
| 15:27.13 | tmzt | #xda-devs or #hpcfactor might help more |
| 15:27.32 | tmzt | s/factor/dev/ |
| 15:28.07 | _silencer | ok |
| 15:33.06 | _silencer | so if one writes a tool that converts pe driver dlls to some raw format (something like a firmware) that can be loaded embedded in a linux driver it could be posible to warp wince driver framework to the linux kernel api |
| 15:38.38 | tmzt | why? |
| 15:39.00 | tmzt | the interesting thing is ce drivers are userspace |
| 15:39.18 | _silencer | no documentation and source code for implementing real drivers on linux |
| 15:39.24 | _silencer | realy? |
| 15:39.28 | _silencer | that is great |
| 15:39.55 | tmzt | no documentaion is true for most devices |
| 15:39.57 | _silencer | so wince drivers have to call some api to map the memory in their adress space? |
| 15:40.26 | tmzt | except the basic ones that are generic or common enough to have datasheets |
| 15:40.50 | _silencer | like the samsung chip in the hermes |
| 15:40.56 | tmzt | but tools like haret allow us to see what the driver is doing and right a replacement |
| 15:41.05 | tmzt | which chip? |
| 15:41.29 | _silencer | the chip with the arm core |
| 15:42.38 | _silencer | reverse engineering drivers should be hard to do |
| 15:43.02 | _silencer | take allot of time, but the result is great -> native open source drivers |
| 15:43.52 | marajin | yo |
| 15:43.56 | _silencer | hi |
| 15:44.01 | marajin | hi sietse_ |
| 15:44.05 | marajin | er _silencer |
| 15:44.55 | _silencer | yes? |
| 15:45.14 | marajin | hi |
| 15:45.17 | marajin | heh |
| 15:45.22 | marajin | I tab completed your name wrong that's all |
| 15:45.32 | _silencer | :P |
| 15:46.03 | marajin | when you say warper, I think you mean wrapper |
| 15:46.27 | _silencer | yes :p |
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| 15:46.44 | Untouchab1e | hi all |
| 15:47.07 | marajin | warping means something completely difference, it means er. twisting, distorting... changing something |
| 15:47.24 | _silencer | sorry my english isn't that great |
| 15:47.40 | _silencer | but thanks for correcting me :) |
| 15:47.54 | marajin | it's no problem |
| 15:47.57 | marajin | we're used to it here |
| 15:49.55 | marajin | very multilingual place this |
| 15:50.09 | marajin | I think we've got english, swedish, german and spanish at the very least |
| 15:50.18 | marajin | oh and dutch Possibly |
| 15:50.23 | _silencer | yep :p |
| 15:50.32 | _silencer | i am from belgium |
| 15:50.38 | _silencer | so dutch :) |
| 15:51.13 | einand | snacka om skillnad på ljudet på 190Kbs och 360Kbs mp3 när man kör på vettig utrustning |
| 15:51.56 | marajin | well I can't speak dutch but I vaguely understand it cause I can speak english, french and german. |
| 15:52.41 | _silencer | had to learn dutch french english and german at school and as result i now suck on all of them :( |
| 15:52.50 | marajin | haha |
| 15:53.06 | marajin | yeah that'll happen |
| 15:53.30 | marajin | ever notice schools teach you to speak 'correct' languages, which the real native speakers never use |
| 15:54.43 | _silencer | indeed |
| 15:55.05 | Untouchab1e | Anyone here have a DIAM100? |
| 15:56.09 | marajin | Untouchab1e: at the moment, I guess not. |
| 15:56.42 | marajin | we should make a list of who has what devices |
| 15:56.43 | marajin | heh |
| 15:56.57 | Untouchab1e | haha |
| 15:56.59 | Untouchab1e | oh well |
| 15:57.02 | marajin | we probably should |
| 15:57.05 | marajin | it'd make life easier |
| 15:57.10 | _silencer | guess its hard to find people to test and gather information on their expensive phones... |
| 15:57.22 | Untouchab1e | someone over at my forums got internet working on Android.. just thought I wound get someone to try it out |
| 15:57.34 | marajin | _silencer: not really, just the diamond was pretty unpopular cause it had no SDHC slot |
| 15:57.34 | Untouchab1e | _silencer, thats why I have set up a testing group |
| 15:57.51 | Untouchab1e | so I just distribute new test builds to all of them and they report back how it works for them |
| 15:58.01 | marajin | so all the people that would buy the diamond probably don't come to places like this |
| 15:58.04 | tmzt | I missed that warper thing was wrapper |
| 15:58.14 | tmzt | makes more sense now |
| 15:58.19 | marajin | tmzt: no worries. It took me a few minutes to grasp what was meant too |
| 15:58.21 | _silencer | sorry for the confusion |
| 15:58.39 | tmzt | Untouchab1e: internet on what? |
| 15:58.45 | Untouchab1e | on Android |
| 15:58.50 | marajin | android on diamond tmzt |
| 15:58.54 | marajin | I guess |
| 15:59.01 | Untouchab1e | http://htc-android.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=154&sid=8619613c1dc119db69420ac9bd0e0562 |
| 15:59.16 | _silencer | working wifi stack? or data connection? |
| 15:59.16 | tmzt | yeah, gsm or cdma |
| 15:59.36 | _silencer | ok |
| 15:59.40 | marajin | USB |
| 15:59.42 | marajin | heh |
| 15:59.45 | Untouchab1e | he's using the DIAM100, but we dont know if it works on the other devices too |
| 15:59.47 | marajin | the forum poster is using usbnet |
| 15:59.52 | tmzt | oh |
| 16:00.05 | tmzt | I thought that already worked, link? |
| 16:00.23 | marajin | so did I |
| 16:00.31 | marajin | pretty sure raph/diam had working usbnet |
| 16:00.49 | Untouchab1e | maybe.. |
| 16:00.57 | _silencer | could the wrapper idea be used to get wifi working? i guess these drivers are not so complex? |
| 16:01.05 | BHSPitLappy | Aww, htc-android.com doesn't have any posts about my phone. :'( |
| 16:01.22 | Untouchab1e | which phone? |
| 16:01.27 | tmzt | well, the android wifi driver is a ce driver |
| 16:01.29 | Untouchab1e | but at the link I posted, he has also set up a modified initrd.cpio.gz to make usbnet even easier |
| 16:01.47 | tmzt | but it's compiled from source with a wrapper for linux |
| 16:02.12 | tmzt | BHSPitLappy: still working on strtrk? |
| 16:02.17 | _silencer | so wrapper idea could work |
| 16:02.39 | BHSPitLappy | tmzt, I still use a strtrk, I wouldn't say I "work" on it :) |
| 16:02.47 | BHSPitLappy | I honestly haven't messed with it in months |
| 16:03.01 | marajin | what the heck is a strtrk? |
| 16:03.14 | BHSPitLappy | HTC Startrek. |
| 16:03.33 | tmzt | I should say the source is modified for linux it's a wrapper but it wouldn't allow using a binary driver |
| 16:03.42 | marajin | ah, clamshell one? |
| 16:03.42 | Untouchab1e | aah.. |
| 16:03.46 | _silencer | yes i known |
| 16:03.47 | Untouchab1e | I had that once.. |
| 16:03.56 | Untouchab1e | I loved iit.. |
| 16:04.05 | Untouchab1e | was the last non-touch-screen phone I had |
| 16:04.21 | marajin | the last non-touch-screen-phone I had was like.. a nokia 6600 :P |
| 16:04.31 | marajin | then I got a hermes, kaiser and now kovsky |
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| 16:04.41 | Untouchab1e | hah |
| 16:05.03 | _silencer | but i have some experience with pe files and known i write code the allows to the code sections to be stipped form pe stuff and be relocated any where in memory |
| 16:05.24 | _silencer | mistake in sentence *known i can |
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| 16:06.13 | tmzt | azenned: did you get your gizard build? |
| 16:06.50 | marajin | I've had many many nokias :( back when a phone only did phone and SMS and that was all |
| 16:06.58 | azenned | tmzt: yes |
| 16:07.31 | tmzt | the android wifi driver is for basically the common wifi chip on htc devices |
| 16:08.27 | azenned | tmzt: http://tuninux.tuxfamily.org/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=11&func=fileinfo&id=1 |
| 16:08.33 | _silencer | so it can be modified? |
| 16:08.40 | marajin | ya know I feel old sometimes even though I'm not cause I remember having the phones that were huge bricks that may not even have a screen and nowadays people are like 'no! it weighs more than 100 grams it's too big!' |
| 16:08.50 | marajin | and I'm like 'go. the hell. to a gym.' |
| 16:09.37 | _silencer | those phones didn't even fit your pocket :) |
| 16:09.45 | marajin | they fit my pocket |
| 16:10.02 | _silencer | i am talking about 92-94 phones |
| 16:10.10 | marajin | so am I |
| 16:10.18 | _silencer | ow :) |
| 16:10.52 | marajin | I don't really understand why people care if their phone causes a tiny bulge or not in a pocket |
| 16:11.21 | marajin | maybe for small women or something who're afraid to be mugged or don't even have pockets in their clothes really |
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| 16:11.49 | _silencer | :) |
| 16:12.08 | marajin | but.. what's that quote... 'A mobile phone should never be smaller and tastier than an after dinner mint' |
| 16:12.23 | _silencer | lol |
| 16:12.51 | _silencer | don't touch it its to fragile! :) |
| 16:13.03 | marajin | ya know I played with one of those ultra thin samsungs |
| 16:13.10 | marajin | the ones that are only like 6mm thick |
| 16:13.17 | marajin | it seemed pretty sturdy actually |
| 16:13.22 | marajin | but I didn't get the point of making it so thin |
| 16:13.49 | marajin | it's just like 'this phone is easier and more comfortable to hide up your bottom when you've just stolen it and the police are on to you' |
| 16:14.04 | _silencer | :) |
| 16:15.03 | marajin | 'No officer, I don't even have a phone' 'Oh yes, and why is your bottom playing flight of the bumblebee then?' |
| 16:15.18 | marajin | madness -.- |
| 16:15.23 | _silencer | :) |
| 16:15.48 | marajin | _silencer: Don't mind me, I'm british, I'm allowed to be insane ;) |
| 16:16.49 | _silencer | :) |
| 16:17.22 | _silencer | what would the world be without humor :( |
| 16:18.21 | marajin | probably a lot more efficient ;) |
| 16:18.37 | marajin | Just look at the germans! |
| 16:18.38 | marajin | ducks. |
| 16:19.27 | marajin | they've learnt sarcasm though so we're all doomed now |
| 16:19.52 | _silencer | do not make them mad, you known what happed before :p |
| 16:20.09 | marajin | they can invade poland if they want, I don't mind |
| 16:20.48 | _silencer | yeah but belgium is next to german :) |
| 16:21.10 | marajin | would belgium even notice if germany invaded? :p |
| 16:21.14 | _silencer | haha |
| 16:23.18 | _silencer | damn politicians in belgium |
| 16:23.21 | _silencer | :) |
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| 16:24.20 | marajin | politicians should be put in jail as soon as they're elected, it'd be easier |
| 16:25.40 | _silencer | in belgium you receive a get out jail free card if you are send theyr :) |
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| 16:27.00 | marajin | handy that |
| 16:38.47 | _silencer | found my old pe c++ code http://users.skynet.be/towp/scllibrary.zip if anyone needs it, i hope to get some time later to work on that wrapper idea (if it is posible) |
| 16:39.43 | tmzt | ask isotherm, cmonex or no2chem in one those channels |
| 16:40.32 | _silencer | ok i will do that, but at some later time |
| 16:41.32 | tmzt | well, they are not there now I think |
| 16:42.02 | _silencer | no problem, i do not have time first 2 months to work on it |
| 16:42.13 | _silencer | hopefully after that :) |
| 16:44.04 | tmzt | I mean about the code |
| 16:48.12 | _silencer | i will not remove it from to server |
| 16:48.16 | _silencer | the* |
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| 18:41.47 | marajin | back |
| 19:06.46 | captnoord | yo |
| 19:07.16 | captnoord | damn I am getting disapointed, isn't there some "compiler / coding problems" channel for noobs...... |
| 19:07.20 | captnoord | for the easy one's |
| 19:09.16 | marajin | No diea |
| 19:09.18 | marajin | probably |
| 19:09.55 | captnoord | I mean..... a guy ask me... why he can't compile a opensource side project |
| 19:10.01 | captnoord | I ask him his ide |
| 19:10.04 | captnoord | and its vc8 |
| 19:10.06 | captnoord | i'm ok |
| 19:10.11 | captnoord | you have to comment a line |
| 19:10.16 | captnoord | what does the moron |
| 19:10.18 | captnoord | he thinks that |
| 19:10.22 | captnoord | # is a comment line |
| 19:10.25 | captnoord | so he removes it |
| 19:10.30 | captnoord | tries to compile |
| 19:10.31 | captnoord | :S |
| 19:10.38 | captnoord | comes back |
| 19:10.41 | captnoord | arg |
| 19:20.20 | marajin | heh |
| 19:20.29 | marajin | it is but not in C :P |
| 19:25.50 | captnoord | arg |
| 19:26.00 | captnoord | the guy doesn't have visual studio 2008 sp1 |
| 19:26.00 | captnoord | :S |
| 19:26.08 | captnoord | I should add a pragma warning |
| 19:26.15 | captnoord | that people who don't have that are morons |
| 19:28.35 | marajin | captnoord: chill out man, it's not worth the blood pressure |
| 19:30.26 | captnoord | I know |
| 19:30.42 | captnoord | but it feels like this, I want to help the guy.... but doesn't know anough about coding |
| 19:30.46 | captnoord | and visual studio..... |
| 19:30.52 | captnoord | so I can't help him |
| 19:30.54 | captnoord | arg |
| 19:31.01 | captnoord | kills the guy ( virtualy ) |
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| 19:50.51 | azenned | hi |
| 19:53.11 | azenned | i dont have access to update htc pharos update status : http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Pharos |
| 19:53.36 | azenned | if some one do it |
| 19:54.24 | azenned | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494991 |
| 19:56.40 | marajin | not sure anyone really bothered with the handhelds.org wiki anymore |
| 20:04.16 | azenned | but it still updated |
| 20:05.53 | azenned | exemple :LastUpdate of SupportedHandheldSummary 2009.02.. |
| 20:06.08 | tmzt | if pdadb had linux stuff maybe |
| 20:06.59 | azenned | i dont think so |
| 20:07.34 | azenned | how can i get access ?? |
| 20:07.46 | tmzt | you can ask Kevin2 |
| 20:08.08 | azenned | ok |
| 20:10.07 | azenned | tmzt: what about e17. do you have any good result |
| 20:10.39 | tmzt | no, Xfbdev isn't working on msm |
| 20:11.06 | azenned | what about wizard (omap) |
| 20:11.30 | tmzt | I don't have wizard |
| 20:11.36 | azenned | ah ! |
| 20:11.43 | tmzt | is pharos omap? |
| 20:11.54 | azenned | yes omap850 |
| 20:13.31 | azenned | i tested the e17 root on phros , but it show " insufisant memeory" |
| 20:14.21 | azenned | when loading Xfbdev |
| 20:14.30 | tmzt | you tested it as initrd? |
| 20:14.35 | azenned | yes |
| 20:15.11 | tmzt | that probably won't work |
| 20:15.21 | tmzt | which image did you use? |
| 20:15.25 | azenned | do i have to create ext2 partition |
| 20:15.53 | azenned | this one : http://140.211.166.181/embedded/linwizard/gizard-e17-20081207.tar.bz2 |
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| 20:16.06 | calamari | hi |
| 20:16.46 | tmzt | hey |
| 20:17.00 | tmzt | what were you working on? |
| 20:18.48 | calamari | for the Apache? |
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| 20:18.56 | azenned | now ??? i just want to test every possible root |
| 20:20.01 | azenned | after that i will work on sound or gsm problem |
| 20:20.03 | tmzt | calamari: that was it |
| 20:20.35 | calamari | tmzt: I bought an Apache, and the charging port was defective.. so I returned it and decided to get a Mogul instead.. sorry! |
| 20:20.50 | tmzt | cool |
| 20:20.53 | tmzt | titan |
| 20:21.15 | calamari | yeah it looks like Android works decently on it |
| 20:21.36 | tmzt | no I was just tyring to remember what device you had because I recognized the nick |
| 20:22.17 | calamari | okay |
| 20:23.00 | calamari | I guess I should tell tekkdrone |
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| 20:28.43 | marajin | woo |
| 20:29.19 | tmzt | calamari: not sure tekk is working on apache either |
| 20:29.33 | calamari | he was.. maybe he stopped in feb? |
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| 20:59.06 | tre9 | my OE build for h5000 is getting stuck on freetype do_compile with the error: |
| 20:59.14 | tre9 | tmp/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/freetype-2.3.5-r2/freetype-2.3.5/builds/unix/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-libtool: No such file or directory |
| 20:59.31 | tre9 | there is libtool in that directory but not arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-libtool |
| 20:59.51 | tre9 | in the .bb file: |
| 20:59.51 | tre9 | LIBTOOL = "${S}/builds/unix/${HOST_SYS}-libtool" |
| 20:59.51 | tre9 | EXTRA_OEMAKE = "'LIBTOOL=${LIBTOOL}'" |
| 21:00.05 | tre9 | any ideas what I could try? |
| 21:00.21 | tmzt | set LIBTOOL as an env? |
| 21:00.46 | tre9 | ok, will try. |
| 21:04.16 | tre9 | same error. Is it hard to just do this step manually-- ./configure make make install? or are there too many variables to set? |
| 21:05.04 | tmzt | autotools don't do crosscompiling well |
| 21:05.27 | tmzt | cr2: would you know what oe is doing here? |
| 21:07.06 | tre9 | I have ASSUME_PROVIDED += " automake-native " and ASSUME_PROVIDED += "install-sh " in local.conf. Could that be a problem? |
| 21:11.31 | tmzt | maybe you can add one for libtool |
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| 21:13.44 | c4software | Hi everyone |
| 21:13.46 | tre9 | good idea. I wonder why freetype has libtool included? |
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| 21:16.45 | tre9 | I guess I may need a cross- libtool? It seems to be looking for arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-libtool. |
| 21:17.43 | cr2 | tmzt: i didn't use oe for some years :( |
| 21:17.57 | tre9 | you maybe better off :) |
| 21:18.04 | marajin | hi c4software |
| 21:18.52 | c4software | No new things on power driver for Diam/raph ? |
| 21:20.21 | tre9 | cr2: any idea how to get a recent rootfs for h5000 without building it myself? I found a 2007 version but it doesn't have wifi modules. |
| 21:21.25 | cr2 | tre9: compile the kernel , and install the modules |
| 21:22.33 | tre9 | ok, true. There were some wifi fixes in 2008. Let me see if they were in the kernel. |
| 21:29.46 | tre9 | looks like the wifi fixes were in the kernel. |
| 21:32.39 | tmzt | cr2: ok, mickeyl was asking about battery driver for raph100 |
| 21:33.01 | tmzt | any information on that or would trout-batt work |
| 21:33.21 | cr2 | battery monitor of the charging ? |
| 21:33.26 | cr2 | s/of/or/ |
| 21:33.30 | tmzt | both |
| 21:33.50 | tmzt | he was trying to charge for testing over time |
| 21:34.19 | cr2 | hm. i think the gpios are known, but the monitor data location is different from raph800 |
| 21:34.31 | tmzt | gpios? |
| 21:34.31 | cr2 | and the data is also short vs. int |
| 21:34.37 | cr2 | must be gpios |
| 21:34.38 | tmzt | to start charging? |
| 21:34.46 | cr2 | which code should enable the gpios ? |
| 21:34.47 | cr2 | yes |
| 21:35.36 | tmzt | we can use a sysfs entry for this? |
| 21:35.42 | tmzt | for charging |
| 21:36.31 | cr2 | yes |
| 21:36.47 | cr2 | but the kernel should detect the usb vs ac |
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| 22:15.56 | marajin | hey ALoGeNo |
| 22:21.01 | c4software | tmzt, cr2 or marajin battery driver is in development for raph and diam ? |
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| 22:43.47 | marajin | c4software: no idea, I have a kovs |
| 22:43.53 | marajin | wb ALoGeNo |
| 22:44.50 | ALoGeNo | wasup marajin |
| 22:44.56 | c4software | okay marajin |
| 22:45.00 | c4software | thanks |
| 22:45.05 | marajin | not much, wondering if this'd be a fun way to annoy iPhone users: http://marajin.w-ww.org/facephone.jpg |
| 22:48.48 | AstainHasPS3 | marajin rdp? |
| 22:49.40 | marajin | AstainHasPS3: heh, of course but I thought it looks hilarious |
| 22:49.46 | marajin | though with WVGA semi usable |
| 22:50.07 | marajin | the kovs wifi is fast enough that it's smooth at 800x480@16 |
| 22:51.51 | marajin | AstainHasPS3: RDP to a virtualized XP install on my server though heh |
| 22:52.18 | ALoGeNo | hey marajin that picture is usin VNC no? |
| 22:52.25 | ALoGeNo | using* |
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| 22:54.52 | marajin | ALoGeNo: no, MS Remote Desktop, I find it's faster/more reliable than VNC but same concept |
| 22:55.14 | ALoGeNo | oh..looks nice.. |
| 23:00.36 | marajin | ALoGeNo: it's funny to wind people up, a fully functional WinXP Pro on a phone :P |
| 23:00.54 | marajin | in full screen mode it's hard to tell that it's using a remote desktop |
| 23:01.07 | ALoGeNo | xD |
| 23:01.22 | ALoGeNo | hehe you are a bad boy marajin |
| 23:02.32 | marajin | I know |
| 23:02.37 | marajin | but iPhone users deserve it :P |
| 23:02.48 | ALoGeNo | ;) |
| 23:02.52 | marajin | you could jailbreak an iPhone and use VNC but it'd be laggy and HVGA |
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| 23:25.44 | Kevin2 | tmzt: I don't have any special access to hh.org site -- not sure if that is what you were asking. |
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