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| 00:21.21 | GermanMafia | alright, i got it to work |
| 00:21.55 | GermanMafia | :x it wasn't in the right directory... for some reason my old mem card wasn't registering by the device. put my new 4.0 in and it's good! |
| 00:23.30 | GermanMafia | now i just can't figure out how to turn the on screen keyboard off... |
| 00:26.54 | tmzt | camera |
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| 00:30.30 | tmzt | I was gone for 10 hours??? |
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| 00:43.31 | TheSarge | AstainHasPS3: Ya here now lol? |
| 00:44.42 | TheSarge | I made a rom with pppc kitchen |
| 00:45.02 | tmzt | TheSarge: I was reading the log from last night, one of the pppd lines you suggested said defaultroot not route |
| 00:45.20 | TheSarge | Oh hey tmzt |
| 00:45.23 | tmzt | verizon rom? |
| 00:45.50 | TheSarge | No im gunna flash to verizon radio then flash to the one I made |
| 00:46.51 | tmzt | yes but is the one you made compatible with vzw radio? |
| 00:47.02 | tmzt | and ast said vzw radio is ok? |
| 00:48.53 | TheSarge | He said it cant hurt |
| 00:48.53 | TheSarge | and said any rom works with any radio |
| 00:48.53 | tmzt | ok |
| 00:48.53 | TheSarge | Well any cdma rom |
| 00:48.53 | tmzt | yes |
| 00:48.55 | tmzt | vogue is only cdma |
| 00:49.00 | TheSarge | But I still have no wmdc so I cant flash unless I do card flash |
| 00:49.08 | TheSarge | I know it is lol |
| 00:49.11 | tmzt | you would not want to use polaris |
| 00:49.15 | TheSarge | The elf is the gsm twin |
| 00:49.16 | tmzt | yeah |
| 00:49.30 | TheSarge | I used a vogue template |
| 00:49.44 | TheSarge | or whatever, I selected Vogue in ppc kitchen |
| 00:49.47 | tmzt | elf is omap they're just both called touch for some reason |
| 00:49.47 | TheSarge | and cricket |
| 00:49.53 | tmzt | ok |
| 00:50.00 | TheSarge | They are Identical is looks as well |
| 00:50.08 | TheSarge | in |
| 00:50.20 | tmzt | polaris is the msm version |
| 00:50.31 | TheSarge | oic |
| 00:50.33 | tmzt | gsm msm device |
| 00:51.00 | TheSarge | AstainHasPS3: was gunna show me howto do the radio but he is afk now |
| 00:51.30 | TheSarge | I have no clue howto flash w/o usb either |
| 00:52.46 | tmzt | somebody in #xda-devs might help |
| 00:52.51 | TheSarge | It is retarded that I have cant connect rdnis |
| 00:53.52 | tmzt | it's still beta |
| 00:53.55 | tmzt | w7 |
| 00:56.19 | TheSarge | Ya but AstainHasPS3 has w7 and it works for him |
| 00:58.09 | TheSarge | lol useful bunch they are in xda-devs |
| 00:58.20 | tmzt | will be back in a few minutes |
| 00:58.25 | TheSarge | k |
| 00:58.29 | tmzt | going to get some food |
| 01:04.06 | TheSarge | dzo: ? |
| 01:04.22 | dzo | yes |
| 01:04.38 | TheSarge | oh hi |
| 01:04.46 | TheSarge | <--- BruteSource |
| 01:05.07 | TheSarge | From The guy who has been buggin you on xda |
| 01:05.38 | dzo | ok, proxy stuff. |
| 01:05.50 | TheSarge | We are thinking it might be MIP related since cricket doesnt support MIP |
| 01:05.58 | TheSarge | Naw proxy isnt the issue yet |
| 01:06.09 | TheSarge | The ppp connection isnt even really there |
| 01:06.22 | TheSarge | Toga says it is |
| 01:06.25 | TheSarge | But its not |
| 01:06.43 | dzo | surely if it gets an ip it must be there. |
| 01:06.52 | TheSarge | Its not a real IP |
| 01:07.12 | TheSarge | the ptp and the wan ip are bogues IP's |
| 01:08.12 | dzo | what about tethering, people must have done that for wince, and you need ppp to work for that. |
| 01:08.37 | TheSarge | We cant get a good ppp connection |
| 01:08.55 | TheSarge | I think my winmo connection turns itself off, or I dunno |
| 01:09.14 | TheSarge | I wish tmzt was here he knows aot more about what we have tried than me |
| 01:10.16 | dzo | I don't know how to help really, you probably have to try to find out how it's handled by wince. |
| 01:10.18 | TheSarge | I think he just ran to the store though |
| 01:10.29 | TheSarge | I have |
| 01:10.42 | TheSarge | Its just a regular dial in data call |
| 01:10.52 | TheSarge | #777 user name pass and a proxy |
| 01:11.20 | TheSarge | Only other thing we have found is the that MIP is diabled in windows |
| 01:11.57 | dzo | that could make a difference, i don;t know what that does though. |
| 01:12.05 | TheSarge | I am not the only one with this problem I have found in numerous threads different cricket users trying to use your android and having same issue |
| 01:12.42 | TheSarge | Well the Verizon radio FW has no MIP support so we were thinking if we used that it might make a difference |
| 01:13.07 | tmzt | dzo: hey |
| 01:13.13 | TheSarge | But obviously plenty of sprint users have had no problem connecting and they have MIP enabled... So I don't know |
| 01:13.14 | dzo | can you find out what ip and ptp-ip you get in wince and also the dns address. |
| 01:13.30 | tmzt | we could also try at log? |
| 01:13.32 | dzo | see if they are the same |
| 01:13.37 | TheSarge | If I knew how I would do it and i just booted android lol |
| 01:13.46 | tmzt | and ther is a support tool from ms for dns at least |
| 01:14.04 | tmzt | sprint uses mip |
| 01:14.10 | TheSarge | I can get my wan ip from whatismyip.com I dunno about my ptp |
| 01:14.33 | TheSarge | tmzt: I know and sprint users have used dzo's android and connected easily... |
| 01:14.33 | dzo | if you are behind a proxy, that wont help. |
| 01:14.39 | TheSarge | So how can MIP be the issue? |
| 01:15.00 | tmzt | the ip he got in linux ipcp was 10.x |
| 01:15.28 | TheSarge | Oh I get it cause Cricket doesnt support MIP and if linux is trying to use it, it would break |
| 01:16.01 | TheSarge | So how can I find these addrresses? |
| 01:16.05 | dzo | how about dns, does android set up dns for you. do getprop in a term window and you shoudl see it. |
| 01:16.46 | TheSarge | But now Im booting winmo.... cause you said.../ |
| 01:17.22 | TheSarge | Half of the time Android just restarts itself |
| 01:17.35 | dzo | hey, i have to go, i'm at work, let me know if you figure anything out. |
| 01:17.48 | tmzt | dzo: I sais the ptp address wasn't real because we tried to ping it |
| 01:18.02 | dzo | probably a bad data img, lots of resets will kill it in the end. |
| 01:18.29 | tmzt | I think in cdma ppp connections only go as far as the amss but I've been trying to find out if that was true for a long time |
| 01:19.09 | dzo | no ping doesn't mean anything, it's probably just a lan ip. |
| 01:20.05 | dzo | no, i have a real ip and can telnet to the phone. |
| 01:20.24 | tmzt | if your in wm open settings connections |
| 01:20.37 | dzo | anyway got to go... bye. |
| 01:20.39 | tmzt | on mine it's called wifi/wlan for some reason |
| 01:20.41 | tmzt | ok |
| 01:20.55 | tmzt | but it has all the lan adapters |
| 01:21.29 | TheSarge | settings connections doesnt have any of that info... |
| 01:21.38 | TheSarge | Damn it |
| 01:21.55 | TheSarge | I was hoping he could help for more than 5 minutes |
| 01:23.57 | TheSarge | well I only have a few hours tonight what should we try tmzt, Id love to compare the ip information but I have no clue how to get those ips in wince |
| 01:23.58 | tmzt | what icons do you have in connections tab? |
| 01:24.43 | TheSarge | Beam Bluetooth Comm Manager Connections Domain Enroll External GPS Network cards Network Plugin USB to PC |
| 01:24.59 | TheSarge | In connections I have Tasks And Advanced |
| 01:25.14 | tmzt | not that |
| 01:25.25 | TheSarge | ? |
| 01:25.26 | tmzt | network cards |
| 01:25.34 | tmzt | wan adapter |
| 01:25.38 | tmzt | mac |
| 01:26.18 | TheSarge | NDISWAN ? |
| 01:26.29 | tmzt | yes |
| 01:28.02 | TheSarge | Name Servers is blank and ip address says automaticly assigned |
| 01:28.14 | TheSarge | it says not connected? |
| 01:28.32 | TheSarge | oh lol my data connection is off |
| 01:29.02 | tmzt | yeah |
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| 01:31.15 | TheSarge | There is a AsyncMac a PPTP one and a L2tp one? |
| 01:31.23 | tmzt | yes |
| 01:31.32 | tmzt | those are tuneels/vpn |
| 01:31.50 | tmzt | point to point tunneling protocol |
| 01:32.03 | tmzt | layer 2 tunneling protocol |
| 01:32.11 | TheSarge | Okay but what one do ya need? |
| 01:32.15 | tmzt | async mac is ppp/slip |
| 01:32.17 | TheSarge | They all say not connected |
| 01:32.20 | tmzt | asyncmac |
| 01:32.39 | tmzt | and you data is connected? |
| 01:32.47 | tmzt | open the browser |
| 01:33.03 | TheSarge | My data session is active |
| 01:34.09 | tmzt | ayncmac ndiswan miniport? |
| 01:34.19 | tmzt | that has to be ppp |
| 01:34.22 | TheSarge | Yes it says not conneected in the IP box |
| 01:35.30 | TheSarge | ? |
| 01:35.36 | tmzt | and browser works? |
| 01:36.26 | TheSarge | Yup |
| 01:36.33 | TheSarge | Been searching things |
| 01:36.39 | TheSarge | random words |
| 01:37.03 | TheSarge | It says not connected in every single one of those |
| 01:38.15 | TheSarge | I am talking about the box where the IP would go |
| 01:38.34 | tmzt | hey |
| 01:38.39 | tmzt | oh he left |
| 01:38.57 | TheSarge | who? |
| 01:39.03 | tmzt | this does not make sense |
| 01:39.06 | tmzt | dcordes |
| 01:39.31 | tmzt | I have part join turned on |
| 01:40.47 | TheSarge | me 2 |
| 01:41.00 | tmzt | lets try the atdbglog |
| 01:41.11 | tmzt | get a ppc2002 phm reg edit |
| 01:41.37 | TheSarge | I have phm reg editor already |
| 01:41.47 | tmzt | ok |
| 01:43.31 | TheSarge | so? |
| 01:43.53 | tmzt | hklm/software/htc/atdbglog/enable=1 |
| 01:44.09 | tmzt | I was looking |
| 01:45.44 | TheSarge | Done |
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| 01:46.10 | tmzt | ok |
| 01:46.18 | tmzt | disconnect and re connect |
| 01:46.26 | tmzt | disable that option |
| 01:46.32 | tmzt | reboot the phone |
| 01:46.41 | tmzt | well reboot the phone now |
| 01:46.56 | TheSarge | so reboot before i disable it? |
| 01:46.58 | tmzt | reboot again when you done |
| 01:47.06 | tmzt | enable it |
| 01:47.09 | tmzt | reboot |
| 01:47.11 | tmzt | connect |
| 01:47.15 | tmzt | disconnect |
| 01:47.17 | TheSarge | Wait what? |
| 01:47.17 | tmzt | disable |
| 01:47.20 | tmzt | reboot |
| 01:47.40 | TheSarge | Hold on Hold on I have to reboot 4 times? |
| 01:47.47 | tmzt | 2 times |
| 01:48.11 | TheSarge | I just enabled it and connected and reconnected... now what is the next step? |
| 01:48.15 | tmzt | it won't let me open the file unless I reboot |
| 01:48.23 | tmzt | disable and reboot |
| 01:49.23 | TheSarge | why Do I have to do it twice? |
| 01:50.00 | tmzt | you might not |
| 01:50.16 | TheSarge | Okay phone is booted up now what? |
| 01:50.21 | tmzt | I don't know if it starts logging before you reboot |
| 01:50.29 | tmzt | check \atlog |
| 01:50.43 | TheSarge | where is that at? |
| 01:50.53 | TheSarge | you mean look in that dir? |
| 01:50.59 | tmzt | file explorer |
| 01:51.03 | tmzt | my device |
| 01:51.29 | TheSarge | Not there |
| 01:51.44 | tmzt | then enable and reboot |
| 01:53.14 | tmzt | going home, five minutes |
| 01:53.44 | TheSarge | Can ya wait til this is done lol |
| 01:54.13 | TheSarge | Do I need to disconnect and reconnect? |
| 01:55.59 | madCoder- | what he's saying is, set it to enable=1, reboot, disconnect, reconnect, set it to enable=0, reboot, then you should see the file in \ATLog\ |
| 01:57.02 | TheSarge | My connection isnt enabled at boot... So do I need to connect dc then the reconnect? |
| 01:57.34 | madCoder- | no, if you just want to see what it does when connecting, then you can simply connect after the first enable+reboot |
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| 02:02.52 | AstainHasPS3 | hiya |
| 02:03.07 | TheSarge | wb |
| 02:03.12 | TheSarge | <--- Gentoon |
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| 02:03.34 | calamari | hi |
| 02:03.55 | AstainHasPS3 | ahh hiya |
| 02:04.01 | AstainHasPS3 | maejrep whats up? |
| 02:04.16 | maejrep | not much .. been kinda swamped at work lately |
| 02:04.17 | calamari | so I bought an apache, its charger was hosed, and so I returned it and got a refund |
| 02:04.40 | AstainHasPS3 | shame on work don't they know you are needed here ;) |
| 02:04.51 | calamari | that thing was fat.. I understand the newer phones are smaller. but then also the newer ones are slower |
| 02:04.53 | AstainHasPS3 | calamari apache huh? |
| 02:05.01 | AstainHasPS3 | you shoulda seen apache with extended battery |
| 02:05.46 | TheSarge | http://pastebin.com/m328a7df4 |
| 02:05.57 | TheSarge | fot tmzt when he gets back |
| 02:06.00 | calamari | wondering what xv model to the phones get "slow" |
| 02:06.13 | calamari | if I decide to do 6900 is it still good? |
| 02:06.21 | TheSarge | Hell y! |
| 02:06.23 | TheSarge | Ya |
| 02:06.29 | TheSarge | I love my Vogue |
| 02:06.32 | maejrep | 18:56:24 Tx:AT+HTC_DUN=0\r |
| 02:06.33 | maejrep | 18:56:24 Rx:+HTC_DUN: 0\r\n0\r |
| 02:06.33 | maejrep | 18:56:24 Tx:ATDT#777\r |
| 02:06.33 | maejrep | 18:56:26 Rx:$HTC_3GIND: 1\r\n |
| 02:06.44 | AstainHasPS3 | calamari the question is do you want/need a keyboard |
| 02:06.45 | maejrep | that's where the data connection is started |
| 02:06.57 | calamari | definitely want a keyboard |
| 02:07.08 | TheSarge | So where is the IP address? |
| 02:07.19 | maejrep | what IP are you looking for? |
| 02:07.22 | TheSarge | The wan and ptp addresses |
| 02:07.30 | maejrep | (sorry, wasn't following discussion above) |
| 02:07.40 | TheSarge | Is your name a pokemon? |
| 02:07.50 | maejrep | that is most likely not set by AT |
| 02:07.53 | maejrep | er, no |
| 02:08.06 | AstainHasPS3 | calamari go for 6800 or 6850 then |
| 02:08.15 | TheSarge | Thats the whole reason we did this cause dzo said we could get those IP addresses here... |
| 02:08.17 | maejrep | it's "madCoder", typed using qwerty positions in a dvorak layout, with punctuation removed ;x |
| 02:08.31 | calamari | AstainHasPS3: okay thanks |
| 02:08.58 | maejrep | TheSarge: do you know what IP you're looking for, and just want to know how to set it? |
| 02:09.30 | maejrep | you probably can get it by AT, but you won't see it in the debug log |
| 02:09.30 | TheSarge | I need the wan IP and the ptp IP |
| 02:09.32 | maejrep | have you tried pst? |
| 02:09.49 | TheSarge | It has to be in there or he wouldnt of had me do all of this |
| 02:10.20 | maejrep | it's probably not :) |
| 02:10.27 | AstainHasPS3 | calamari you looking to buy a new phone? |
| 02:10.39 | calamari | sweet.. 6850 has number keys |
| 02:10.43 | AstainHasPS3 | yep |
| 02:10.46 | calamari | new or used |
| 02:10.48 | AstainHasPS3 | 6850's nice |
| 02:10.50 | TheSarge | AstainHasPS3: What do I need to do to get Verizon Radia? |
| 02:10.51 | maejrep | the file really isn't that big heh |
| 02:11.04 | TheSarge | Radio |
| 02:11.17 | maejrep | TheSarge: does ##PST# work on vzw? |
| 02:11.23 | TheSarge | I was I not supposed to select cricket in the dropdown in ppc kitchen? |
| 02:11.30 | TheSarge | vzw? |
| 02:11.36 | TheSarge | I am not using Verizon |
| 02:11.41 | maejrep | oh |
| 02:11.45 | maejrep | cricket? :p |
| 02:11.52 | maejrep | pardon me while I play catchup |
| 02:12.02 | TheSarge | yes cricket |
| 02:12.12 | maejrep | ok, can you try ##PST# in the dialer |
| 02:12.24 | AstainHasPS3 | TheSarge I don;t knwo for sure if you need the vzw radio but if its MIP thats causing your issue then maybe |
| 02:12.28 | maejrep | I don't know if that's sprint-only, or if other cdma carriers do it too |
| 02:12.41 | maejrep | hmm, wait |
| 02:12.44 | maejrep | PST is wrong :| |
| 02:12.57 | maejrep | ##3282# |
| 02:13.09 | maejrep | then click View |
| 02:13.56 | TheSarge | AstainHasPS3: So whats the process to try the vzw radio |
| 02:14.05 | maejrep | if the ## code doesn't work, try running \Windows\epst.exe from file explorer |
| 02:14.19 | TheSarge | maejrep: thats not what I am trying to do thanks though |
| 02:14.35 | AstainHasPS3 | TheSarge easiest way is to flash the full vzw rom and then reflash your cricket rom |
| 02:14.46 | TheSarge | Okay |
| 02:14.51 | maejrep | well you're not going to find what you want in that AT log either ;) |
| 02:15.44 | TheSarge | PST doesnt have IP addresses |
| 02:16.08 | TheSarge | I am lookin at it right now |
| 02:16.15 | maejrep | it does for me :p |
| 02:16.21 | maejrep | might be a sprint thing |
| 02:16.22 | TheSarge | In what field? |
| 02:18.36 | maejrep | Primary Home Agent is one |
| 02:19.25 | maejrep | also in M.IP Customer Profile * |
| 02:20.22 | TheSarge | The only P's I have are PRI version and PRI Checksum |
| 02:20.37 | TheSarge | AstainHasPS3: How do ya do card flashing? |
| 02:21.05 | TheSarge | ooops what is RTN? |
| 02:21.07 | maejrep | was that from ##3282# or ##778# ? |
| 02:21.11 | TheSarge | I just ran it |
| 02:21.24 | AstainHasPS3 | ##778# is the best one for lots of info I believe |
| 02:21.26 | TheSarge | I just went into phone codes and went to PST |
| 02:21.43 | tmzt | sorry |
| 02:22.32 | tmzt | maejrep: not looking for ip in the at log |
| 02:22.36 | TheSarge | Ya ##778# brought me to the same thing |
| 02:22.44 | TheSarge | oh sorry my bad |
| 02:22.53 | TheSarge | But we still need to find the IP |
| 02:22.58 | TheSarge | tmzt http://pastebin.com/m328a7df4 |
| 02:24.23 | AstainHasPS3 | TheSarge sd flash: http://pastebin.com/m756ead56 |
| 02:24.56 | TheSarge | Oh I am not fotmatting my card lol |
| 02:25.09 | TheSarge | And it would take an hour to copy |
| 02:25.20 | TheSarge | I have a 512 I can use... will that work? |
| 02:26.12 | AstainHasPS3 | yep |
| 02:26.34 | TheSarge | Plus my main card is a 8GB and that says 2gb or less |
| 02:26.57 | TheSarge | How can I backup my contacts to the sd easily? |
| 02:27.46 | maejrep | can copy the pim file in the root of the device |
| 02:27.52 | TheSarge | Oh wait my card is already FAT32 I wonder if it really has to be smaller than 2GB and if it can be sdhc |
| 02:27.53 | maejrep | but I've had problems with restoring it in the past |
| 02:28.09 | TheSarge | Okay so is there a stablier way? |
| 02:28.14 | maejrep | 3rd party app |
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| 02:28.23 | maejrep | or activesync |
| 02:28.50 | maejrep | unfortunately MS doesn't give us any useful way to backup and restore pim data :/ |
| 02:29.07 | TheSarge | My activesynce/wmdc is broke |
| 02:29.08 | maejrep | other than pimping outlook, of course (since you cant even sync pim data without outlook) |
| 02:29.13 | ali1234 | http://www.dotfred.net/ has a free tool though |
| 02:29.28 | tmzt | ppcpimbackup works well |
| 02:29.41 | TheSarge | What about sprite backup and just selecting Personal Information? |
| 02:29.43 | ali1234 | i think that's the same thing |
| 02:29.55 | ali1234 | sprite backup isn't free |
| 02:30.12 | TheSarge | Well I have Sprite backup it was on my rom and I put it on my new rom |
| 02:30.26 | ali1234 | well it does almost exactly the same thing... |
| 02:30.33 | tmzt | yeah your right I think |
| 02:30.40 | TheSarge | Okay so it will work then? |
| 02:30.43 | tmzt | I always just search for it |
| 02:30.54 | tmzt | yes |
| 02:30.54 | AstainHasPS3 | it can't be sdhc TheSarge |
| 02:30.54 | ali1234 | yep, dotfred seems to be the original author of ppcpimbackup |
| 02:31.06 | TheSarge | Great and thats all I have |
| 02:31.18 | AstainHasPS3 | you said you have a 512 mb? |
| 02:31.23 | TheSarge | Gotta love my luck |
| 02:31.31 | tmzt | use non binary and you can even unzip it |
| 02:31.31 | TheSarge | My rom is bigger than 512 I think |
| 02:31.37 | AstainHasPS3 | nope |
| 02:31.42 | AstainHasPS3 | roms are much smaller |
| 02:31.43 | tmzt | why won't sdhc work? |
| 02:31.45 | TheSarge | I put alotta stuff on it |
| 02:31.53 | AstainHasPS3 | the bootloader doesn't support sdhc |
| 02:31.59 | tmzt | ok |
| 02:32.05 | ali1234 | i think spritebackup creates a full rom backup on a bootable sd card |
| 02:32.09 | AstainHasPS3 | TheSarge the ROM itself is very small |
| 02:32.12 | AstainHasPS3 | no ali1234 it doesnt |
| 02:32.23 | ali1234 | ppcpimbackup just backs up your contacts to a zipped xml file, as such, it will work fine with sdhc |
| 02:32.53 | TheSarge | ali1234 were talking about card flashing with the sdhc stuff not the contacts |
| 02:32.59 | ali1234 | oh ok |
| 02:33.23 | tmzt | TheSarge: was that your at log? |
| 02:33.39 | tmzt | just htcdun and #777 3gind? |
| 02:33.45 | TheSarge | I really dont wanna lose my contacts, we are sure just checking personal information in sprite will work? |
| 02:34.01 | TheSarge | Yes that was the log |
| 02:34.10 | TheSarge | And I have no clue what you are talking about |
| 02:34.19 | tmzt | I always use ppcpim, it puts the conatacts in cvs and zips it if you use non binary |
| 02:34.26 | maejrep | tmzt: DUN and #777 were just the lines I copied |
| 02:34.47 | tmzt | cvs is just text file and you can open it with notpad or excel or outlook |
| 02:34.52 | TheSarge | tmzt the whole log is at http://pastebin.com/m328a7df4 |
| 02:35.16 | TheSarge | I really dont want to have to install another app if I can just use sprite |
| 02:35.55 | AstainHasPS3 | sprint will work but I'd do a full backup with it just to be safe |
| 02:36.10 | TheSarge | a full rom backup? |
| 02:36.15 | TheSarge | Just for my contacts? |
| 02:36.41 | AstainHasPS3 | well lemme check something one sec |
| 02:37.32 | AstainHasPS3 | yah you can just chose the PIM and that will do contacts sms that stuff |
| 02:37.40 | TheSarge | k sweet |
| 02:37.51 | TheSarge | Wanna link me to the vzw rom? |
| 02:37.57 | TheSarge | Please |
| 02:38.51 | TheSarge | All I see is Personal Databases... is that right? |
| 02:39.21 | tmzt | you don't have to install ppcpim just copy the .exe to sd card |
| 02:39.33 | tmzt | I guess sprite will work |
| 02:39.47 | tmzt | I even thinkk it's on this ssk rom |
| 02:40.07 | AstainHasPS3 | http://download.ppchaven.com/CDMA%20Devices/HTC%20Vogue/Users/Bruce303lee/ROMS/RUU_Vogue_VZW_WWE_3.14.605.1_Radio_3.37.77_Ship.exe |
| 02:40.14 | AstainHasPS3 | the vzw rom with radio is there |
| 02:40.27 | AstainHasPS3 | DO NOT LET THE ROM BOOT ALL THE WAY AFTER FLASHING |
| 02:40.33 | AstainHasPS3 | sorry for the caps but its important |
| 02:40.48 | TheSarge | Umm? |
| 02:40.55 | TheSarge | Turn it off? |
| 02:41.00 | TheSarge | Or what? |
| 02:41.33 | TheSarge | BAttery pull? |
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| 02:42.00 | AstainHasPS3 | put it back into bootloader and flash your cricket rom |
| 02:42.31 | tmzt | is it hardspl? |
| 02:42.47 | TheSarge | huh? |
| 02:43.08 | AstainHasPS3 | tmzt he's running a custom cricket rom already |
| 02:43.54 | tmzt | can you tell me why not booting that rom is important? |
| 02:44.38 | AstainHasPS3 | well its ok to boot just not let customizations run so its easier say don't boot |
| 02:44.41 | TheSarge | Maybe it gunna write VZW spl stuff? |
| 02:45.10 | tmzt | they still use a customization partition? |
| 02:45.12 | AstainHasPS3 | no hardspl blocks the vzw spl |
| 02:45.25 | TheSarge | lol okay then |
| 02:45.30 | AstainHasPS3 | tmzt I linked him to a shipped rom |
| 02:47.15 | TheSarge | wont the radio in my rom overwrite the vzw one? |
| 02:47.25 | tmzt | and what are customizations? |
| 02:47.40 | TheSarge | just cabs |
| 02:48.42 | tmzt | if they just modify the fat partition wouldn't hard reset clear them? |
| 02:48.44 | TheSarge | Okay so are we good to go? |
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| 02:49.51 | power_usr | AstainHasPS3 - I noticed a RAPH800 build was posted on connect-utb! |
| 02:50.01 | power_usr | Do you know if this is the same one you sent me? |
| 02:50.02 | AstainHasPS3 | tmzt some of the customizations edit nam stuff |
| 02:50.13 | AstainHasPS3 | TheSarge there is no radio in your rom I bet |
| 02:50.26 | tmzt | ok |
| 02:51.08 | tmzt | AstainHasPS3: raph800 build of what, android? |
| 02:51.38 | AstainHasPS3 | thats my guess tmzt |
| 02:52.10 | tmzt | maejrep: still here? |
| 02:52.17 | maejrep | yeah |
| 02:52.25 | TheSarge | Well i hope there isnt one lol |
| 02:52.26 | tmzt | cool |
| 02:53.33 | tmzt | maejrep: I think the problems are caused by android PhoneProvider |
| 02:53.46 | tmzt | not by your smd-7500 directly |
| 02:54.09 | tmzt | dzo's ril succeeds only if /dev/smd0 is present |
| 02:54.19 | tmzt | allowing phoneprovider to start |
| 02:54.32 | maejrep | so we need his ril? or need to write something new? |
| 02:54.53 | tmzt | so it tries to setup the audio profile |
| 02:55.06 | tmzt | then my phone shuts down, no panic |
| 02:55.27 | tmzt | shuts down and charging pattern starts |
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| 02:55.58 | tmzt | I think we need to patch his ril but I haven't got that detailed yet |
| 02:56.02 | maejrep | it doesn't turn off, for me |
| 02:56.04 | maejrep | it just stops |
| 02:56.13 | TheSarge | So everyone switched projects on me lol |
| 02:56.44 | AstainHasPS3 | tmzt do we need to try to get dzo in here to talk with him? |
| 02:56.53 | tmzt | we're trying to get cdma touch pro working |
| 02:57.01 | tmzt | he's busy I think |
| 02:57.13 | AstainHasPS3 | I know he's very good at email |
| 02:57.27 | TheSarge | I had to beg him 4 3 days to come in here and help and he came in for like 10 mins today |
| 02:57.35 | TheSarge | 4 days |
| 02:57.59 | AstainHasPS3 | TheSarge just email him your questions he'll do what he can to help but yah he is a busy guy |
| 02:58.23 | TheSarge | AstainHasPS3: We were emailing but it was taking to long |
| 02:58.30 | TheSarge | So he said he would come in here lol |
| 02:58.33 | AstainHasPS3 | ahh ic TheSarge |
| 02:58.55 | TheSarge | I mean it was like run this command and give me out put... wait 2 days... okay run this command... etc.. |
| 02:59.07 | TheSarge | output |
| 02:59.28 | TheSarge | WTF is exFAT? |
| 02:59.37 | TheSarge | a new ms FAT fs? |
| 02:59.49 | tmzt | yes |
| 02:59.54 | maejrep | an overweight former spouse? |
| 03:00.07 | tmzt | supports up to 2tb I think |
| 03:00.16 | TheSarge | why when there is ntfs? |
| 03:00.44 | TheSarge | Thats like going back and making a better horse and buggy |
| 03:00.58 | maejrep | don't let the name fool you |
| 03:01.23 | maejrep | FAT just stands for file allocation table, and is not necessarily related to the vfat / fat16 / fat32 file systems that you're thinking of |
| 03:01.43 | TheSarge | So its a ntfs replacement? |
| 03:01.53 | Rooster9999 | no its a external media filesystem |
| 03:01.59 | TheSarge | is ext4 out? |
| 03:02.06 | tmzt | yes |
| 03:02.14 | TheSarge | Is it purty? |
| 03:02.17 | tmzt | not perfect yet though |
| 03:02.21 | maejrep | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT |
| 03:02.26 | tmzt | not much different |
| 03:02.36 | tmzt | btrfs will be cool though |
| 03:02.37 | TheSarge | I heard it was going to support like 5 whatever the hell comes after TB |
| 03:02.46 | maejrep | PB |
| 03:02.50 | maejrep | petabytes |
| 03:02.55 | tmzt | or right |
| 03:02.57 | TheSarge | Ya those |
| 03:03.43 | TheSarge | wow anyways better get to work I need sleep soon |
| 03:03.45 | TheSarge | work at 4 am |
| 03:03.51 | TheSarge | So am I good to flash? |
| 03:04.09 | tmzt | AstainHasPS3:? |
| 03:04.16 | AstainHasPS3 | tmzt huh? |
| 03:04.34 | TheSarge | Does winrar extract exe's ? |
| 03:04.39 | AstainHasPS3 | yes |
| 03:04.45 | TheSarge | okay good |
| 03:04.47 | AstainHasPS3 | right click and tell it extract |
| 03:05.38 | TheSarge | Out of all those files all I need is the .nbh huh? |
| 03:05.57 | AstainHasPS3 | yep |
| 03:07.26 | TheSarge | I am scared I will not have a phone for work tomorrow lol |
| 03:07.36 | TheSarge | Maybe I should do a full sprite backup? |
| 03:07.43 | tmzt | yeah |
| 03:08.18 | tmzt | maejrep: can we noop the audio stuff in dzo's ril? |
| 03:08.32 | maejrep | I don't know anything about dzo's ril |
| 03:08.45 | maejrep | it's a daemon, right? |
| 03:08.54 | tmzt | the source is on his site right? |
| 03:08.59 | tmzt | no, a .so |
| 03:09.06 | maejrep | oh, didn't know that |
| 03:09.09 | maejrep | never looked into it |
| 03:09.38 | maejrep | i don't see it on his site |
| 03:09.48 | TheSarge | oh wow this is going to takes hours huh? |
| 03:09.58 | tmzt | to flash? |
| 03:10.07 | TheSarge | The backup |
| 03:10.14 | AstainHasPS3 | nah sd flash is fast backup should be fast too |
| 03:10.15 | TheSarge | Oh its done |
| 03:10.47 | TheSarge | So we have the tools to do everything that guy who charged me 60 dollars to do did huh? |
| 03:10.53 | TheSarge | The cricket flasher guy |
| 03:11.00 | AstainHasPS3 | yep |
| 03:11.07 | AstainHasPS3 | cricket flasher guy raped you |
| 03:11.08 | TheSarge | I feel violated |
| 03:11.13 | maejrep | tmzt: ah its just a modification of the android ril? |
| 03:11.22 | TheSarge | Oh no its not done |
| 03:11.25 | maejrep | i only see: http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue/rildiff |
| 03:11.30 | maejrep | not sure if anything else has changed with it |
| 03:11.45 | TheSarge | Hmm I could start doing flashed for like 30 bucks and undercut him |
| 03:11.59 | TheSarge | I need all the data cables though and I dont want that liability |
| 03:12.07 | TheSarge | flashes |
| 03:12.37 | maejrep | tmzt: looks like it tries to write numbers to /sys/class/vogue_hw/audio, which doesn't exist for us |
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| 03:14.00 | tmzt | which should not crash |
| 03:14.05 | TheSarge | So aftter it flashes I am pulling the battery before it boots the vzw rom? |
| 03:14.12 | tmzt | yes |
| 03:14.25 | TheSarge | @ me tmzt? |
| 03:15.26 | tmzt | just usb for this device |
| 03:15.36 | tmzt | unless something goes wrong |
| 03:15.50 | TheSarge | So I could just stick this card into any vogue and it would automaticly flash it to vzw... wow that is cool |
| 03:15.53 | tmzt | yeah, pull the battery |
| 03:16.07 | tmzt | if it's hardspl I think |
| 03:16.20 | TheSarge | see what does that mean? |
| 03:16.28 | TheSarge | I should just pull the battery? |
| 03:16.40 | TheSarge | Then how will i get the phone back into bootloader? |
| 03:16.41 | tmzt | yes after it flashes |
| 03:16.52 | tmzt | on vogue not sure |
| 03:17.19 | tmzt | I know you hold something down |
| 03:17.24 | tmzt | and turn on |
| 03:17.28 | TheSarge | cause normally I hold power camera and hit reset but thats when i am booted |
| 03:17.28 | AstainHasPS3 | power camera |
| 03:18.09 | tmzt | does raph800 have camera button? |
| 03:19.26 | AstainHasPS3 | tmzt no |
| 03:19.29 | TheSarge | Okay it is flashing |
| 03:19.46 | TheSarge | umm |
| 03:20.02 | TheSarge | it just said loading for a second then went back to the bootloader screen? |
| 03:20.15 | AstainHasPS3 | did you name it right |
| 03:20.34 | TheSarge | It says my spl is SPL-2.31.CoKe |
| 03:20.46 | AstainHasPS3 | did you name the nbh properly |
| 03:20.49 | TheSarge | Ya, and my bootloader screen has never done that before |
| 03:20.59 | TheSarge | The loading... |
| 03:21.28 | TheSarge | Vogues bootloader must not support card flashing |
| 03:22.19 | TheSarge | Now my phone is bricked |
| 03:22.22 | TheSarge | great |
| 03:22.36 | maejrep | tmzt: can that ril be loaded without having all android libs? |
| 03:23.25 | TheSarge | Oh here it comes whew.... |
| 03:23.32 | tmzt | which ril? |
| 03:24.12 | maejrep | reference-ril.so |
| 03:24.13 | TheSarge | There is some log on the mem card now? |
| 03:24.25 | tmzt | it should just need clib bionic |
| 03:24.30 | tmzt | libc |
| 03:24.49 | TheSarge | Its empty |
| 03:25.17 | tmzt | here it comes? |
| 03:25.47 | tmzt | what did you name the .nbh? |
| 03:26.59 | TheSarge | VOGUIMG.NBH |
| 03:27.23 | TheSarge | Maybe cause when i formatted the card to FAT32 I did a quick format? |
| 03:27.34 | tmzt | possibly |
| 03:27.44 | tmzt | is it a superfloppy? |
| 03:27.52 | TheSarge | superfloppy? |
| 03:28.01 | tmzt | no partitons |
| 03:28.07 | tmzt | no partiton table |
| 03:28.12 | TheSarge | I dont know? |
| 03:28.31 | tmzt | diskmgmt.msc |
| 03:28.52 | TheSarge | You know the file was already named that in the exe |
| 03:29.27 | tmzt | yeah |
| 03:29.44 | TheSarge | Ya it is a single Partition |
| 03:29.51 | TheSarge | So I didnt have to rename it |
| 03:29.57 | tmzt | just try a full format of the card in windows as fat32 |
| 03:30.02 | TheSarge | I mean i did anyways to be sure but it was already named that |
| 03:30.25 | TheSarge | Allocation size matter? |
| 03:31.37 | tmzt | maybe |
| 03:31.41 | tmzt | 4kb |
| 03:31.47 | TheSarge | damn it |
| 03:31.53 | TheSarge | I already started it with default |
| 03:32.02 | einand | likes that tux going to be a barber :) |
| 03:32.05 | tmzt | how big is the partiton? |
| 03:32.15 | TheSarge | 512 its at 5% |
| 03:32.18 | tmzt | huh? |
| 03:32.25 | TheSarge | 512MB |
| 03:32.34 | TheSarge | I just cancelled it |
| 03:32.38 | tmzt | einand? |
| 03:32.40 | TheSarge | who knows how long that will take |
| 03:32.45 | TheSarge | WHAT? |
| 03:32.53 | TheSarge | I dont know what that means |
| 03:33.03 | einand | tmzt: did'ent you know, in next kernel Tux will be replaced with Tuz |
| 03:33.12 | tmzt | yeah |
| 03:33.34 | einand | so Tux will be a barber for 3 month ;) |
| 03:33.35 | tmzt | barber? |
| 03:33.38 | TheSarge | tmzt: 4kb doesnt appear in the list should I type it in? |
| 03:33.46 | einand | tmzt: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzE1MA |
| 03:33.46 | tmzt | what |
| 03:34.02 | TheSarge | For allocation size |
| 03:34.07 | TheSarge | You said 4kb |
| 03:34.21 | TheSarge | 64k is the lowest |
| 03:34.23 | tmzt | cluster size? |
| 03:34.34 | tmzt | for 512mb? |
| 03:34.35 | TheSarge | Allocation Unit Size.... |
| 03:34.50 | tmzt | 32 |
| 03:35.06 | TheSarge | So type in 32K cause it is not in the list |
| 03:35.09 | TheSarge | ? |
| 03:35.55 | TheSarge | Im just gunna use the default this isnt talked about in the readme |
| 03:35.58 | tmzt | this is not a windows format screen I've ever seen |
| 03:35.59 | TheSarge | I am running outta time |
| 03:36.18 | tmzt | type 32 |
| 03:36.21 | tmzt | try it |
| 03:36.43 | TheSarge | Okay its going |
| 03:37.01 | TheSarge | well it is wm7 |
| 03:37.05 | TheSarge | maybe its a beta bug |
| 03:38.42 | TheSarge | wow san disk has a 64gb sd card now |
| 03:39.02 | tmzt | sdxc? |
| 03:39.03 | TheSarge | Thats bigger than my lapttop hdd on a thumnail sized piece of plastic |
| 03:42.22 | TheSarge | nand is faster than plain old ata right? |
| 03:42.58 | tmzt | ata is just a connection |
| 03:43.09 | tmzt | well pata sata are |
| 03:43.18 | tmzt | ata is basically a command set |
| 03:43.36 | TheSarge | IDE |
| 03:43.47 | TheSarge | ? |
| 03:44.09 | tmzt | nand erase is slow but still faster than a disk drive |
| 03:44.15 | tmzt | and seek is instant |
| 03:44.37 | TheSarge | Thats why this format is taking forever cause of the erase then |
| 03:45.17 | tmzt | or usb |
| 03:47.00 | TheSarge | USB 2.0 |
| 03:49.25 | TheSarge | I dont even know where ppc kitched saved my rom |
| 03:50.47 | TheSarge | wow went through all that got to 99% and it said the cluster size was too big |
| 03:50.50 | TheSarge | tmzt |
| 03:51.39 | tmzt | ah |
| 03:51.43 | tmzt | ahh |
| 03:52.17 | TheSarge | ? |
| 03:52.40 | tmzt | like I said I've never used that |
| 03:52.47 | tmzt | wm7 format |
| 03:52.50 | TheSarge | Used what? |
| 03:52.58 | TheSarge | fat 32? |
| 03:53.11 | tmzt | format dialog in w7 |
| 03:53.15 | tmzt | or w7 |
| 03:53.16 | TheSarge | im goin with default lol |
| 03:53.29 | tmzt | I thought you tried that |
| 03:53.35 | TheSarge | nope |
| 03:53.44 | TheSarge | lol ya right it takes like 20 mins to format |
| 03:54.07 | tmzt | a 512mb partiton? |
| 03:54.33 | tmzt | should not take that long |
| 03:54.38 | TheSarge | Well it does lol |
| 03:54.43 | TheSarge | Maybe its the usb |
| 03:54.57 | tmzt | tried sansa? |
| 03:55.10 | TheSarge | It is a sansa |
| 03:56.03 | tmzt | in non-mtp mode? |
| 03:56.11 | TheSarge | I dont know? |
| 03:56.24 | TheSarge | alll the readme says is to format it to fat32 |
| 03:58.02 | tmzt | so what's going on |
| 03:58.48 | TheSarge | Its formatting at default cluster size |
| 03:58.53 | TheSarge | full format |
| 04:00.06 | tmzt | ok |
| 04:00.17 | tmzt | then copy the nbh |
| 04:00.20 | TheSarge | 50% |
| 04:01.23 | TheSarge | yup |
| 04:02.14 | TheSarge | 60% |
| 04:08.36 | TheSarge | wtf it started over after 99% |
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| 04:09.51 | tmzt | can you use cmd? |
| 04:10.04 | tmzt | what's the drive letter? |
| 04:10.19 | TheSarge | K |
| 04:11.43 | TheSarge | this is retarded |
| 04:12.37 | tmzt | format whatever: |
| 04:12.48 | TheSarge | huh? |
| 04:13.07 | tmzt | format /M should tell you how to format fat32 |
| 04:13.21 | tmzt | and you have to use an admin shell |
| 04:13.28 | tmzt | at least in vista |
| 04:13.38 | tmzt | format /? |
| 04:13.45 | TheSarge | well ima let it get to 100% again and see what happens |
| 04:14.03 | tmzt | they haven't fixed it apparently |
| 04:14.37 | TheSarge | fixed what? |
| 04:14.58 | tmzt | that formatter |
| 04:15.05 | tmzt | you were using |
| 04:15.54 | TheSarge | its broke? |
| 04:16.37 | tmzt | it looks like it |
| 04:16.58 | tmzt | it shouldn't restart |
| 04:20.32 | TheSarge | here comes 99% |
| 04:20.54 | TheSarge | Its done... |
| 04:22.01 | tmzt | good |
| 04:23.28 | TheSarge | copying... |
| 04:24.59 | TheSarge | Booting... |
| 04:26.03 | TheSarge | Nope |
| 04:26.06 | TheSarge | Same thing |
| 04:26.23 | tmzt | AstainHasPS3: is it fat32 or fat16? |
| 04:26.38 | tmzt | and all caps or lowercase |
| 04:27.21 | TheSarge | The readem says fat32 |
| 04:27.27 | TheSarge | and all uppercase |
| 04:27.42 | TheSarge | http://pastebin.com/m756ead56 |
| 04:28.05 | TheSarge | its flashing something for a second when i get into the bootloader |
| 04:28.39 | TheSarge | Something File! |
| 04:29.02 | TheSarge | No Image File |
| 04:29.08 | TheSarge | Thats what it is saying |
| 04:30.52 | tmzt | put the card in the sansa and tell me what the file browser says the name is case included |
| 04:31.33 | tmzt | I think it shows you what the asciiz in the fat says |
| 04:32.46 | TheSarge | VOGUIMG.NBH |
| 04:34.23 | TheSarge | Once in a while it says loading alot longer like 10 seconds |
| 04:34.49 | tmzt | so it could be corrupt |
| 04:34.59 | tmzt | it does find the file I think |
| 04:35.17 | TheSarge | Im formatting with the sansa this time insteada the phone that worked for someone on a titan forum |
| 04:36.00 | TheSarge | How do I run cmd as admin? |
| 04:36.40 | tmzt | right click on command prompt in the start menu |
| 04:37.30 | TheSarge | wtf it does this sometimes |
| 04:37.40 | TheSarge | Gives me a fucking login box |
| 04:38.10 | TheSarge | There we go |
| 04:38.41 | TheSarge | you said format /m |
| 04:38.42 | TheSarge | ? |
| 04:39.48 | tmzt | format /? |
| 04:40.05 | tmzt | I pressed fn instead of shift |
| 04:40.24 | tmzt | or shift instead of fn |
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| 04:43.35 | TheSarge | Ok its goin |
| 04:43.41 | TheSarge | wow its way faster on the sansa |
| 04:43.51 | TheSarge | well not way faster but its faster |
| 04:44.09 | tmzt | wow |
| 04:44.25 | tmzt | were you using rockbox before or OF? |
| 04:45.03 | TheSarge | I was using the phone |
| 04:45.19 | tmzt | oh |
| 04:45.27 | tmzt | and now? |
| 04:45.57 | TheSarge | Sansa |
| 04:46.00 | TheSarge | OF |
| 04:46.10 | tmzt | ok |
| 04:46.24 | TheSarge | Maybe it is corrupted if this doesnt work |
| 04:46.54 | tmzt | I mean the nbh might be corrupted |
| 04:47.14 | TheSarge | Ya thats what I meant lol |
| 04:47.23 | TheSarge | I dunno if its from extraction or download |
| 04:47.30 | TheSarge | so maybe I should redo both |
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| 04:48.12 | TheSarge | wow its done |
| 04:48.15 | tmzt | are you still flashing the verizon? |
| 04:48.20 | TheSarge | an 32 was the default lol |
| 04:49.07 | TheSarge | ya |
| 04:49.13 | tmzt | so now cricket? |
| 04:50.30 | TheSarge | I havent flshed cricket yet |
| 04:50.37 | TheSarge | vzw |
| 04:50.51 | TheSarge | I meant the format was done |
| 04:50.56 | TheSarge | Its copying nowe |
| 04:51.00 | TheSarge | Bout to try it |
| 04:52.39 | TheSarge | its fucking working |
| 04:52.41 | TheSarge | yes |
| 04:53.26 | TheSarge | so it was that formater |
| 04:55.25 | TheSarge | Damn I dunno wtf my rom is called |
| 04:56.11 | TheSarge | I found an nbh file that was in the ppckitchen ruu folder |
| 04:56.12 | TheSarge | hmmm |
| 04:56.20 | TheSarge | Well guess ill try it and hope its it |
| 04:56.29 | tmzt | should be |
| 04:56.36 | tmzt | ruu is the updater |
| 04:57.15 | TheSarge | I have never made a rom before this is fun |
| 04:57.46 | TheSarge | It says Update complete Update success |
| 04:58.10 | TheSarge | So I can just put the other nbh on the card and start the new flash now? |
| 04:58.46 | tmzt | yeah |
| 04:59.04 | TheSarge | weird it doesnt have my boot images I specified in the same folder |
| 04:59.17 | TheSarge | they should be seperate .nbh files shouldnt they? |
| 04:59.42 | tmzt | since you have the folder with the nbh, is there a radio.nb? |
| 04:59.54 | TheSarge | Nope |
| 05:00.03 | tmzt | ok |
| 05:00.17 | tmzt | boot images? |
| 05:00.38 | TheSarge | I only need the one nbh file right? |
| 05:00.45 | TheSarge | Ya splash images |
| 05:01.10 | tmzt | those would be in there |
| 05:01.23 | tmzt | nbh is like zip file |
| 05:01.32 | tmzt | it has multiple parts |
| 05:03.02 | TheSarge | okay its flashing |
| 05:03.05 | TheSarge | :) |
| 05:03.07 | TheSarge | brb smoke |
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| 05:04.02 | tmzt | I'm going to have you boot android and bring up ppp with togga |
| 05:04.50 | tmzt | then try nc wap.mycricket.com 8080 |
| 05:06.01 | TheSarge | I cant I need to goto bed after this is done I have work in 6 hours |
| 05:06.29 | tmzt | ok |
| 05:06.35 | TheSarge | Well that only takes a few seconds |
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| 05:07.54 | perkka_ | so whats the status |
| 05:08.14 | tmzt | it's flashed I hope |
| 05:08.30 | TheSarge | Still booting |
| 05:08.37 | TheSarge | think first time takes a while I guess |
| 05:08.46 | tmzt | yeah |
| 05:09.37 | TheSarge | Fuck I really need a Clonazipan |
| 05:09.40 | TheSarge | But I am out |
| 05:10.51 | TheSarge | uh oh |
| 05:11.03 | TheSarge | nm |
| 05:12.40 | TheSarge | wow maybe I put to much shit in this rom |
| 05:12.50 | TheSarge | The home screen is all messed up |
| 05:12.51 | Rooster9999 | TheSarge: do you mean clonazepam? |
| 05:12.58 | TheSarge | looks like to many things trying to run |
| 05:13.09 | TheSarge | Sure I dunno howto spell it |
| 05:13.22 | TheSarge | But I am having a pretty bap panic attack right now |
| 05:13.43 | Rooster9999 | yea those arnt fun, take a couple shots if u got them lol |
| 05:13.55 | TheSarge | Hah no I don't |
| 05:14.19 | TheSarge | Im just gunna keep workin on this and hope takin my mind off of it helps |
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| 05:15.24 | TheSarge | Ya its not usable the screen is just frozen there must be way to much shit open at boot |
| 05:15.43 | tmzt | it booted though? |
| 05:15.46 | TheSarge | Ya |
| 05:15.52 | TheSarge | but i cant use anything |
| 05:19.44 | TheSarge | Ill get it workin, but ya cant do android tonight its to late |
| 05:20.01 | TheSarge | But ill be back on around 7pm pst tomorrow night for a few hours |
| 05:20.44 | tmzt | ok |
| 05:20.51 | TheSarge | I need a spb mobile shell serial |
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| 05:22.35 | tmzt | huh |
| 05:22.41 | tmzt | oh |
| 05:22.56 | tmzt | so you built that in your rom? |
| 05:23.41 | TheSarge | Oh ya I built in tonsa shit lol |
| 05:23.48 | TheSarge | HTC Home with SPB shell |
| 05:23.52 | TheSarge | I got the serial |
| 05:24.02 | TheSarge | Nows its workin nice, I like it alot |
| 05:24.06 | TheSarge | Its quick |
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| 05:28.45 | TheSarge | wow I kinda like winmo now lol |
| 05:28.50 | TheSarge | Okay night man |
| 05:29.45 | TheSarge | Oh wait I need internet |
| 05:29.54 | TheSarge | Is it #777 |
| 05:30.02 | TheSarge | or ##777 |
| 05:31.10 | tmzt | #777 |
| 05:31.46 | tmzt | if you need mms you probably want to install that cab |
| 05:35.55 | TheSarge | Naw i did mms manually last time cab didnt work |
| 05:36.06 | TheSarge | I backed up those specific reg edits |
| 05:36.16 | TheSarge | Should be easy just have to run the .reg |
| 05:36.29 | tmzt | ok |
| 05:36.55 | tmzt | although it should work on vzw I think |
| 05:37.22 | tmzt | they don't use http like sprint does |
| 05:37.38 | TheSarge | Ya lets try you still have link? |
| 05:37.46 | TheSarge | I should still have the file actually |
| 05:39.40 | TheSarge | It was for titan but I guess it wont matter |
| 05:40.17 | tmzt | no |
| 05:44.11 | TheSarge | Weird it doesnt find my pim backup just the full one I did |
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| 12:18.14 | dcordes | yo |
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| 12:51.26 | Untouchab1e | Good afternoon! |
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| 13:46.04 | AstainHasPS3 | morning |
| 13:46.56 | tmzt | hey |
| 13:56.19 | AstainHasPS3 | ho? |
| 13:57.12 | AstainHasPS3 | whats up tmzt? |
| 13:57.19 | tmzt | not much |
| 13:57.50 | tmzt | still waiting to figure out how to compile dzo's libreference-ril |
| 13:58.00 | tmzt | without the audio stuff |
| 13:58.22 | tmzt | have you set PANIC to 0? |
| 13:58.46 | tmzt | and see what it does when booting android with smd-7500 |
| 14:00.26 | AstainHasPS3 | no not tried that yet |
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| 14:12.48 | Marajin | morning |
| 14:12.52 | Marajin | well, afternoon but sssh |
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| 14:13.27 | AstainHasPS3 | lol |
| 14:13.35 | AstainHasPS3 | and morning to you too |
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| 14:14.21 | Marajin | hey AstainHasPS3 , how goes? |
| 14:14.26 | AstainHasPS3 | goes well Marajin |
| 14:14.30 | AstainHasPS3 | morning power_usr |
| 14:14.30 | Marajin | goodo |
| 14:14.33 | power_usr | morning |
| 14:14.46 | power_usr | judging from the logs, it sounds like ppl are working on RAPH800 data |
| 14:14.49 | AstainHasPS3 | Marajin found new toy to get boss to buy for me |
| 14:14.55 | Marajin | AstainHasPS3: oh? |
| 14:15.09 | AstainHasPS3 | http://www.choung.net/Token2Shell/ |
| 14:15.40 | AstainHasPS3 | tmzt how would I sent panic to 0? |
| 14:15.54 | tmzt | in .config |
| 14:16.00 | tmzt | search panic |
| 14:16.22 | power_usr | What will setting panic to 0 ideally do when booting android? |
| 14:16.33 | tmzt | nothing |
| 14:16.37 | AstainHasPS3 | damn wish I would have brought my eee with me today then |
| 14:16.43 | tmzt | it just won't reset on panic |
| 14:16.49 | power_usr | ok |
| 14:16.49 | tmzt | like android does |
| 14:17.03 | power_usr | so we will be able to see details about panic? |
| 14:17.20 | Marajin | AstainHasPS3: you want an SSH program to be bought for you? O.o |
| 14:17.42 | Marajin | oooh, Win Mobile ready |
| 14:17.49 | Marajin | now that is something cause PocketPuTTY is just naff |
| 14:17.53 | AstainHasPS3 | yes because this one does tabbed ssh and replaces filezilla and has a wimo version that kicks ass |
| 14:18.19 | Marajin | nice |
| 14:19.04 | Marajin | 50 bucks for a WinMo SSH client is a bit rich though |
| 14:19.14 | Marajin | I'd pay 10-20 if it were good but 50? |
| 14:19.28 | AstainHasPS3 | yah its definately pricey |
| 14:19.35 | AstainHasPS3 | thats why only way I'd get it is if boss bought it |
| 14:19.52 | AstainHasPS3 | its only $10 savings for the combo pack of desktop and mobile |
| 14:20.33 | tmzt | for linux hotssh is getting nice |
| 14:20.47 | AstainHasPS3 | hotssh? |
| 14:20.55 | AstainHasPS3 | oh ssh client for linux box? |
| 14:21.05 | tmzt | gtk based |
| 14:21.15 | tmzt | tabbed, reconnect |
| 14:21.35 | AstainHasPS3 | very nice tmzt |
| 14:22.07 | tmzt | and shared ssh process so starts additional connections instantly |
| 14:22.16 | tmzt | but that's still buggy |
| 14:22.30 | AstainHasPS3 | cool looks nice |
| 14:24.40 | tmzt | I think mine is crashing amss/arm9 |
| 14:25.05 | tmzt | the only other way I see to get it to shut off instantly is at+cfun=0 |
| 14:25.56 | tmzt | power_usr: yes raph800 and 500 |
| 14:26.20 | power_usr | great! |
| 14:27.00 | power_usr | data in raph800 would be huge |
| 14:27.21 | power_usr | un-be-lieve-able |
| 14:28.07 | tmzt | it works for me in debian but not stable with high-traffic |
| 14:28.42 | power_usr | wow. hopefully mere mortals like me can try out data soon |
| 14:29.06 | power_usr | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOVRgVPrGlQ |
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| 14:35.08 | AstainHasPS3 | lol tmzt's not kidded either high traffic as if files bigger than like 70-80k kill it |
| 14:35.43 | Marajin | hmm ya know last night I was beginning to think my kovsky may have a buggy radio rom, it seems to pack up and get no signal in certain circumstances which I /think/ are high CPU load, I need to test |
| 14:35.56 | Marajin | it may just be to do with uptime/specific time of the day |
| 14:36.13 | tmzt | why would arm11 affect it? |
| 14:36.21 | Marajin | soft resetting it without moving it last night made the signal come back though went from hour+ of no signal to 50% signal strength/edge |
| 14:36.24 | tmzt | rpc watchdog or something |
| 14:36.59 | Marajin | and tapping on the screen a lot in quick succession freezes the phone for like 30 seconds |
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| 14:40.23 | AstainHasPS3 | anyone seen a list like this: http://conflipper.com/ppcgeekspics/KFIH3YH4D%5DE5_N2(5LSTE%7DX.jpg |
| 14:45.31 | tmzt | cdma devices also |
| 14:45.33 | tmzt | nice |
| 14:46.06 | AstainHasPS3 | aye |
| 14:46.31 | AstainHasPS3 | the rhodium #w and superstar look to be some of the coolest in the list |
| 14:47.07 | tmzt | tachi is vzw maybe |
| 14:47.24 | tmzt | no idea though, strange chip with the ti |
| 14:47.48 | AstainHasPS3 | interesting to see the 7600 chipsets on a few as well |
| 14:47.59 | tmzt | worldphones |
| 14:48.04 | AstainHasPS3 | aye |
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| 18:31.12 | tre9 | my OE build for h5000 is getting stuck on freetype do_compile with the error: |
| 18:31.26 | tre9 | tmp/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/freetype-2.3.5-r2/freetype-2.3.5/builds/unix/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-libtool: No such file or directory |
| 18:31.37 | tre9 | there is libtool in that directory but not arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-libtool |
| 18:31.53 | tre9 | any hints? |
| 18:35.57 | tmzt | dcordes_: you here? |
| 18:36.59 | tmzt | what are you building for? |
| 18:40.17 | tre9 | building for h5000 |
| 18:40.44 | tmzt | ipaq? |
| 18:41.02 | tre9 | yes |
| 18:41.08 | tmzt | not that it matters, wbat machine are you using in OE? |
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| 18:41.46 | tre9 | MACHINE = "h5000" |
| 18:42.15 | tmzt | that's probably old and not maintained |
| 18:42.37 | tmzt | are you building kernel and what task? |
| 18:42.50 | tre9 | bitbake x11-image |
| 18:43.00 | tre9 | I think that's why it needs freetype |
| 18:43.34 | tmzt | it shouldn't matter if it's h5000 or something else with same size ram |
| 18:44.17 | tmzt | as long as it's armv5 |
| 18:44.22 | tre9 | I wonder if there's a TARGET_PREFIX variable that isn't working since it's looking for arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-libtool |
| 18:44.56 | tmzt | if it's one folder you could symlink it |
| 18:45.18 | tmzt | I don't know enough about bitbake to fix it |
| 18:45.35 | tmzt | dcordes would |
| 18:45.44 | tre9 | I tried symlink, but then there were lot's of other errors |
| 18:46.29 | tre9 | ok I'll ask again later. |
| 18:47.05 | tre9 | Is there another place I should be asking questions like this? |
| 18:47.59 | tmzt | #oe |
| 18:49.19 | mickeyl | do I need to explicitly enable charging? |
| 18:49.30 | mickeyl | had my raphael100 booted in Linux |
| 18:49.34 | mickeyl | with usb connected |
| 18:49.46 | mickeyl | after 24 hours, battery is empty |
| 18:50.06 | tmzt | I don't think it charges yet |
| 18:50.15 | mickeyl | uh oh |
| 18:50.23 | mickeyl | ok :/ |
| 18:50.24 | tmzt | maejrep or cr2 might know |
| 18:50.50 | AstainHasPS3 | I bet we need to compile support into kernel to be able to get batt charging to work |
| 18:51.11 | tmzt | +s it amss or microp? |
| 18:51.22 | tmzt | s/+s/is/ |
| 18:52.15 | tmzt | mickeyl: what kernel are you using? |
| 18:52.29 | tmzt | htc-2.6.27 from git? |
| 18:52.46 | tmzt | htc-msm-2.6.27 from git? |
| 18:52.52 | mickeyl | yes |
| 18:52.58 | mickeyl | pretty current |
| 18:53.01 | mickeyl | just a couple of revs old |
| 18:53.06 | mickeyl | let me check exactly |
| 18:53.14 | mickeyl | 1e936f767872234a9b299e209a5e33212de473fa |
| 18:53.48 | mickeyl | before the clocks change |
| 18:53.51 | mickeyl | which renders it unbootable |
| 18:53.56 | mickeyl | so i went back to 1e93... |
| 18:54.12 | mickeyl | still though when it freezed with HEAD the sensor LED was glimming |
| 18:54.15 | tmzt | clcoks change? |
| 18:54.35 | tmzt | what pattern? |
| 18:54.43 | tmzt | was usb plugged in? |
| 18:54.46 | mickeyl | yes |
| 18:54.55 | mickeyl | the sensor led was moving in a circle |
| 18:54.58 | mickeyl | like when it charges |
| 18:55.01 | tmzt | so the 'fill up' pattern |
| 18:55.04 | mickeyl | but only with the kernel that crashed |
| 18:55.05 | mickeyl | yah |
| 18:55.13 | mickeyl | the kernel that booted didn't show that pattern |
| 18:55.24 | tmzt | so it turned off |
| 18:55.28 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 18:55.43 | mickeyl | the modem reported full charge |
| 18:55.45 | captnoord | re |
| 18:55.49 | mickeyl | but it seems it lost that |
| 18:55.51 | mickeyl | or didn't restart |
| 18:55.56 | mickeyl | perhaps the software needs to restart after a while |
| 18:56.00 | mickeyl | we need to do that on the GTA02 |
| 18:56.08 | mickeyl | since the battery is connected directly to the modem |
| 18:56.13 | mickeyl | thus USB can't power the modem |
| 18:56.16 | mickeyl | i bet it's the same with HTC |
| 18:56.39 | captnoord | mickeylthus USB can't power the modem |
| 18:56.46 | captnoord | theoreticly it can |
| 18:57.02 | mickeyl | i have yet to see a smartphone design where it can |
| 18:57.07 | mickeyl | practically :) |
| 18:57.08 | tmzt | I guess he means it drains too much |
| 18:57.19 | captnoord | yup |
| 18:57.38 | captnoord | even the usb standard is making it do the 500 mA thingy |
| 18:57.47 | tmzt | touch pro boots with "modem" off if the battery is too low |
| 18:57.47 | captnoord | it was never with practical stuff |
| 18:57.52 | captnoord | so its 100 mA always |
| 18:58.07 | tmzt | but the device won't boot without the modem processor |
| 18:58.58 | tmzt | so only rf can be powered off, maybe dsp |
| 18:59.03 | tmzt | modem dsp |
| 18:59.10 | mickeyl | back to my original question, what could we do to restart charging? |
| 18:59.46 | tmzt | can you read the battery charge? |
| 19:00.02 | tmzt | in /sys I think. never tried |
| 19:00.39 | tmzt | AstainHasPS3: any idea what config option could be missing/needed? |
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| 19:01.30 | mickeyl | well |
| 19:01.36 | mickeyl | unfortunately there is no power class device present |
| 19:01.41 | mickeyl | not that i would have expected it *cough* |
| 19:01.48 | mickeyl | any non-standard way to read charging? |
| 19:02.19 | tmzt | it's been written that I know of, but probably not in htcraphael-defconfig |
| 19:03.16 | mickeyl | i'm tweaking the defconfig now to enable more filesystems anyways |
| 19:03.22 | mickeyl | if you know what option i should enable, i'm all ears :) |
| 19:05.53 | tmzt | I only see trout (g1) driver |
| 19:07.06 | tmzt | which uses rpc and has the command RPC BATT MTOA SET CHARGING PROC |
| 19:07.21 | tmzt | but that could be trout specific |
| 19:07.28 | tmzt | probably is |
| 19:07.47 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 19:08.05 | mickeyl | ~lart dcordes for tricking me into believing there was more hardware support already done |
| 19:08.05 | apt | slaps a compatible dib on dcordes's head for tricking me into believing there was more hardware support already done |
| 19:11.41 | tmzt | I must be confusing this with rtc unfortunately, the mechanisms are similar but that's the driver that's written |
| 19:13.20 | mickeyl | ya, i was glad to see an RTC class driver |
| 19:14.42 | tmzt | and that's proc-comm not rpc |
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| 19:48.13 | mickey|tv | what's TROUT? |
| 19:48.22 | mickey|tv | is that a board or a custom chip or a family of boards? |
| 19:48.30 | mickey|tv | TROUT_BATTCHG is not set in the defconfig |
| 19:49.26 | tmzt | trout is the google codename for g1 (dream) |
| 19:49.48 | tmzt | that might actually work if the rpc server id is the same |
| 19:50.07 | mickey|tv | ok, so i guess i need to try and error |
| 19:50.12 | tmzt | but there is potential the commands could be different |
| 19:50.12 | mickey|tv | will do that later |
| 19:50.48 | mickey|tv | fun, could that damage the hardware or just not work? |
| 19:51.18 | tmzt | I don't know |
| 19:52.26 | AstainHasPS3 | mickey|tv Ill be willing to try it out on my raph800 for yah if you want, I have insruance on that thats basically almost instant replacement |
| 19:52.37 | tmzt | the wm devices have a different firmware than the g1 one command could mean something different or the server id could be different and it won't respond |
| 19:52.44 | mickey|tv | AstainHasPS3: that would rock |
| 19:53.57 | tmzt | at+cfun=0 turns off the whole device not just modem |
| 19:54.19 | tmzt | in case your using that somewhere |
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| 20:06.40 | Marajin | yo |
| 20:07.47 | captnoord | yo |
| 20:07.51 | Marajin | hey captnoord |
| 20:07.53 | Marajin | how goes? |
| 20:08.20 | captnoord | my side project goes well..... |
| 20:08.27 | Marajin | which one is that? |
| 20:08.29 | captnoord | my school project goes a bit good |
| 20:08.37 | captnoord | game server emu |
| 20:09.13 | captnoord | I upload a png of my school stuff |
| 20:09.18 | captnoord | I made 2 days ago |
| 20:09.35 | captnoord | http://deja.jails.nl/trashbin/FreqGraphDiffExample1.png |
| 20:10.00 | captnoord | now I stand for s choise |
| 20:10.15 | captnoord | they delivered a very very nice spectrum analyser |
| 20:10.23 | captnoord | so I think I have to rewrite everything to that one |
| 20:10.32 | captnoord | because the one I used for making these images |
| 20:10.35 | captnoord | is slow as hell |
| 20:10.54 | captnoord | but what I did.... was parsing the txt data files........ |
| 20:11.21 | captnoord | which was using double string stuff for storing its floating pointers ( doubles ) |
| 20:11.27 | captnoord | which matlab can't read |
| 20:11.34 | captnoord | so |
| 20:11.38 | captnoord | I made a c app |
| 20:11.41 | Marajin | heh |
| 20:11.42 | captnoord | to convert it for me |
| 20:11.46 | Marajin | they suck at integration |
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| 20:12.14 | captnoord | the image shows the FM spectrum and piece of the GSM spectrum |
| 20:12.23 | captnoord | 850 - 900 Mhz |
| 20:12.46 | captnoord | the last graph is a graph which is the diff of above |
| 20:13.04 | captnoord | and I transmitted a 435 Mhz FM signal on one of them |
| 20:13.10 | captnoord | you can tell which? |
| 20:13.35 | Marajin | I didn't look long enough to tell |
| 20:13.46 | captnoord | isn't important |
| 20:13.52 | Marajin | but probably not, I have NFC about signal/spectrum analysis? |
| 20:14.10 | captnoord | hmmm k |
| 20:14.19 | captnoord | its rahter obviouse |
| 20:14.20 | captnoord | the first one |
| 20:14.21 | captnoord | :P |
| 20:14.42 | Marajin | there's a spike at that frequency on all of them |
| 20:14.56 | captnoord | yea but the first has 2 spikes |
| 20:15.19 | captnoord | nah |
| 20:15.24 | captnoord | can't explain is good |
| 20:15.30 | captnoord | but I hate matlab |
| 20:15.35 | Marajin | heh |
| 20:15.38 | captnoord | fucked up scripting language |
| 20:15.40 | captnoord | I mean |
| 20:15.43 | captnoord | arg |
| 20:15.43 | Marajin | from some of the mutterances I've heard below, you're not the only one |
| 20:15.47 | captnoord | just arggg....... |
| 20:15.52 | Marajin | I think my girl's had to mess with it before |
| 20:16.11 | captnoord | hehe I think your girl is kinda forced to use it |
| 20:16.12 | captnoord | tell her |
| 20:16.18 | Marajin | she is yeah |
| 20:16.19 | captnoord | matlab is way better than scilab |
| 20:16.24 | Marajin | heh |
| 20:16.26 | captnoord | scilab is a free alternative |
| 20:16.32 | captnoord | BUT IT SUCKS BALLS BIGTIME |
| 20:16.38 | captnoord | its worse than matlab |
| 20:17.02 | Marajin | I kinda filter out anything I don't understand when she's ranting about her uni stuff |
| 20:19.47 | captnoord | I do the same with my girl |
| 20:20.11 | Marajin | wheee... ya know I want to find an iPhone user now so I can taunt them with my kovsky |
| 20:20.15 | Marajin | heh |
| 20:20.25 | captnoord | she teaches psychology |
| 20:20.30 | captnoord | woeps |
| 20:20.31 | captnoord | I mean |
| 20:20.33 | captnoord | studies |
| 20:21.09 | captnoord | her field -> ADHD to people who are recovering from beeing brain dead |
| 20:21.23 | captnoord | and guess who has adhd |
| 20:21.28 | captnoord | points at himself |
| 20:21.48 | Marajin | heh :p |
| 20:22.01 | Marajin | you don't seem very ADHD afflicated mate |
| 20:22.10 | captnoord | because of my med's |
| 20:22.17 | Marajin | fair enough |
| 20:22.26 | captnoord | and people who are smart know how to hide it |
| 20:22.32 | Marajin | ever been brain dead? ;) |
| 20:22.55 | captnoord | I got 230 V AC yesterday....... |
| 20:23.00 | captnoord | it "shocked" me |
| 20:23.01 | captnoord | :P |
| 20:23.12 | captnoord | hurray for trying to fix dishwashers |
| 20:23.12 | captnoord | :P |
| 20:23.26 | captnoord | nope |
| 20:23.30 | captnoord | I wish I was braindead |
| 20:23.31 | captnoord | :P |
| 20:25.02 | Marajin | yeah me too |
| 20:26.33 | captnoord | a known comedian here sayd once "don't get to smart because when your smart know why the world is a shit hole and you also know that you can't do anything about it" |
| 20:26.54 | Marajin | yeah there's actually scientific proof to that though |
| 20:27.19 | Marajin | IQ isn't too accurate but there's a distinct correlation between higher IQ and depression/suicidal tendency |
| 20:27.50 | Marajin | there's also a link between intelligence and misanthropy/social withdrawal/etc |
| 20:28.08 | captnoord | the thing I know is that is very complex |
| 20:28.39 | captnoord | and because of the science of that stuff is only about 80 years old...... |
| 20:28.51 | captnoord | i'm kinda not going there....... |
| 20:28.54 | captnoord | my girl does..... |
| 20:29.08 | captnoord | thank god she is seeing that I try my best |
| 20:29.29 | Marajin | I think most official psychiatric knowledge is rubbish but I think that the subject has merit once it matures enough to know wtf it's on about |
| 20:29.50 | captnoord | the thing is... they know a lot on what it is not...... |
| 20:29.56 | Marajin | heh |
| 20:29.59 | Marajin | they get over excited |
| 20:30.01 | captnoord | its like researching everything what is not |
| 20:30.06 | captnoord | and when you finished |
| 20:30.09 | captnoord | you got what it is |
| 20:30.11 | captnoord | or not |
| 20:30.14 | captnoord | nah |
| 20:30.16 | Marajin | a friend of mine, he went through almost identical stage in life as I did right, I never got any treatment I just got better. |
| 20:30.23 | Marajin | him, they tried to electrocute his brain to cure him |
| 20:30.33 | Marajin | and when he said no, they tried to remove his right to choose for himself |
| 20:30.35 | captnoord | lol |
| 20:30.49 | captnoord | electrocute his brain won't fix it |
| 20:30.52 | Marajin | frying someone's brain is soooo not the answer |
| 20:30.55 | Marajin | he was just depressed |
| 20:30.57 | captnoord | because you destroy neuro links |
| 20:31.02 | Marajin | his GF betrayed him and life was generally shit |
| 20:31.23 | Marajin | all it needs is to keep him for killing himself till he gets over it |
| 20:31.25 | captnoord | which is kinda "unknown" / "gray area" |
| 20:31.35 | Marajin | *from |
| 20:31.36 | captnoord | yea..... |
| 20:31.42 | Marajin | now he's just fine really |
| 20:32.06 | captnoord | a famouse doctor ( history man ) had a king work on the land....... |
| 20:32.23 | captnoord | and he kinda enslaved the king |
| 20:32.35 | captnoord | and eventualy 20 years ago |
| 20:32.38 | captnoord | they found out |
| 20:32.46 | captnoord | that if you have that problem |
| 20:32.52 | captnoord | you should do hard but simple labour |
| 20:32.59 | captnoord | because it takes time |
| 20:33.07 | Marajin | yeah it just keeps you going till you work it out on your own |
| 20:33.13 | captnoord | and you need to stimulant stuff for the brain |
| 20:33.13 | captnoord | :P |
| 20:33.16 | captnoord | yup |
| 20:33.29 | captnoord | but....... the thing is... what I think one of the most common problems is.... |
| 20:33.36 | captnoord | is that people don't sleep.... |
| 20:33.54 | captnoord | and sleep is a very very good cure for everything |
| 20:33.55 | Marajin | hehe, don't talk to me about not sleeping from being like 11 to 19 I was terrible for it |
| 20:33.56 | captnoord | we are so stressed out |
| 20:34.12 | captnoord | I don't talk about young people |
| 20:34.30 | Marajin | I slept avg 4 hours a day, often only slept once every 2 days and sometimes went 3+ days with no sleep |
| 20:34.30 | captnoord | even they need sleep for a totaly diff reason |
| 20:34.49 | captnoord | lol |
| 20:34.51 | Marajin | and that last one, don't do that it's not good |
| 20:35.04 | captnoord | coding is adicting isn't it |
| 20:35.05 | captnoord | :P |
| 20:35.08 | Marajin | the brain starts to basically do the human equivalent of BSODing |
| 20:35.20 | Marajin | wasn't necessarily coding, I don't think I've coded for more than 18 hour straight |
| 20:35.34 | Marajin | but I've been awake upwards of 74 hours straight |
| 20:35.58 | Marajin | by which point I couldn't really understand speech even in my native language (i.e. english) |
| 20:36.11 | captnoord | and you got a reason? |
| 20:36.12 | captnoord | :P |
| 20:36.26 | Marajin | ... might've been working on my server <.< >.> |
| 20:36.39 | captnoord | lol |
| 20:36.41 | captnoord | hahahahhaahaha |
| 20:36.52 | Marajin | linux hacking on a 70+ hour uptime bad, mm'kay? |
| 20:37.08 | Marajin | I can't do it anymore, my illness won't let me |
| 20:37.18 | Marajin | if I stay awake much longer than 24 hours I just crash |
| 20:37.35 | Marajin | then again I used to live on caffeine, can't do it anymore |
| 20:37.55 | captnoord | lol |
| 20:38.03 | captnoord | I did 24 hour days |
| 20:38.08 | captnoord | but I know from prev xp |
| 20:38.18 | captnoord | I best preform when sleeping 6 - 8 hours a day |
| 20:38.36 | Marajin | yeah but up to getting ill my /normal/ sleep pattern was a 48 hour day (40 awake, 8 sleep) |
| 20:38.52 | Marajin | I lived like that for months on end, years really |
| 20:39.15 | Marajin | I didn't really get tired till I'd been awake for 35 hours |
| 20:39.48 | Marajin | but maybe that's just why I got ill partially |
| 20:39.49 | captnoord | the thing is.... |
| 20:39.51 | Marajin | burnt myself out |
| 20:39.53 | captnoord | the brain needs it |
| 20:40.15 | Marajin | yeah but the 'healthy' sleep requirement varies depending on the person |
| 20:40.22 | Marajin | it's perfectly fine for some people to live like I did |
| 20:41.06 | captnoord | hmmm..... |
| 20:41.08 | captnoord | I don't know |
| 20:42.49 | captnoord | I think I am gonna take a bath |
| 20:42.50 | captnoord | :P |
| 20:42.56 | captnoord | nice relaxing bath |
| 20:43.01 | Marajin | heh |
| 20:43.08 | Marajin | ok mate |
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| 22:37.35 | power_usr | hi |
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| 22:53.29 | perkka_ | evening |
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| 23:39.49 | NetRipper | i should hack my modem and put a custom linux on that |
| 23:40.06 | NetRipper | stupid thing keeps giving me a headache |
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| 23:49.09 | maejrep | tmzt: theoretically, it should keep the state it was in before booting linux, which is most likely "charger enabled", and probably "slow charge (usb)" |
| 23:49.48 | maejrep | you should certainly not include the RPC battery driver though, since that a) won't work, and b) might disable the charger |
| 23:50.41 | maejrep | my smem battery driver did work as far as setting the charge state correctly, but it also seemed to create a problem with smem clock, which I haven't tried to narrow down yet |
| 23:51.11 | maejrep | maybe I'll get time this weekend to actually work on it some more |
