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00:02.09GentoonAstainHasPS3: any ideas man?
00:13.29Gentoontmzt: PING
00:27.40Gentoonali1234:  you there?
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00:47.45azennedhi
00:48.45GentoonHi
00:49.25azennedi need some help porting linux on htc pharos
00:49.56azennedif some one have any ideas to make touchscreen work
00:50.02Gentoonlol you make it sound like its installing an app or something
00:50.17azennedI know
00:50.23n8thegr87lol
00:50.23GentoonI am not ther person to ask but there are plenty brilliant minds that come in here
00:50.38lupine_85has a development environment for symbian now, woo
00:50.50azennedwhat ?
00:50.56lupine_85nokia
00:51.00lupine_85OT, I know
00:52.20azennedi can catch pendown event but there are wrongs values
00:53.30azennedif some one have any ideas ???
00:56.53azennedtmzt : ..??
01:17.15Gentoontmzt????
01:19.21GentoonCan anyone here help me with toga or ppp?
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01:48.09GentoonCan you update your radio to latest without using a whole new rom?
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01:52.39azennedwow ! finaly it works
01:53.53azennedtouchscreen works in htc pharos! it still have bad calibration ,but it work :-)
01:57.32Gentoontmzt: ....
02:04.21azennedtmzt is not here ,
02:04.50azennedor he dont want to respond :-)
02:10.38Gentoonshhh
02:25.38AstainHasPS3lupine_85 got the e70 eh?
02:30.18GentoonAstainHasPS3: werent you troubleshooting ppp stuff yesterday?
02:31.38Gentoonwhats a command to just resolve a hostname not ping it
02:34.04pologtijauneGentoon, host <hostname>
02:34.33GentoonYa I think dns is broke
02:34.38Gentoonor not configured
02:34.52GentoonI dunno if it is supposed to be dynamicly assigned or what
03:18.25GentoonI guess tmzt isnt gettin on tonight
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03:55.02nearstit is can install hacking tool into htc linux
03:59.25GentoonIs that a serious question?
03:59.36nearsthehehe
03:59.40nearstnope...
03:59.46nearstim just figure it out
04:00.08nearstim in raphael now.
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04:12.22Gentoontmzt :(  ?
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04:45.32maejrep<AstainHasPS3> hmm I wonder what would happen if I use'd dzo's android build for kaiser/vogue/whatever <-- it wouldn't work, the initrd expects things like /sys/class/vogue_hw/*
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04:53.17GentoonUmm dzo's build is for VOGUE lmao
04:53.25GentoonSo that doesnt make sense
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05:10.46AstainHasPS3hi Marajin
05:10.49AstainHasPS3hiya madCoder-
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05:17.03perkkamornin
05:17.22GentoonBlah
05:17.34GentoonI still havent gotten anywhere, i dunno if I ever will
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05:25.44perkkappp?
05:26.06Gentoonyup
05:26.09GentoonBroken ppp
05:26.26GentoonCant ping or dc the ptp gateway or anything
05:26.33GentoonBut toga thinks its connected :(
05:27.25Gentoonperkka: did you have an idea? I would try anything right now
05:27.58AstainHasPS3blames cricket
05:28.46GentoonAstainHasPS3: But it works in winmo :(
05:29.03GentoonIt has my username and password
05:30.00perkkasadly no
05:30.10perkkanever used ppp in linux
05:30.23perkkahaven't used that for about 10 years at all :P
05:30.28Gentoonlol
05:30.32GentoonStupid cdma
05:31.12GentoonI almost wanna get an elf and switch to tmobile
05:31.25GentoonI wonder if elf is as far as vogue in android development
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05:32.43GentoonOr if I can just use the vogue image
05:32.43AstainHasPS3Gentoon doesnt matter wimo and android are very different
05:32.58AstainHasPS3and I know that cricket can be a bitch for data evin in wimo
05:33.09GentoonYes but I am saying we cant plame it on cricket can we if it works in winmo and not android
05:33.18AstainHasPS3yes we can blame it on cricket
05:33.19GentoonWan't for me
05:33.28AstainHasPS3cricket is a nasty mess
05:33.28GentoonJust had to add the proxy and it worked lol
05:33.34AstainHasPS3proxys ftl
05:33.52GentoonIts got to be something simple I am missing
05:34.12GentoonI dont think the proxy is an issue yet I mean I cant even dc or ping to the proxy
05:34.19GentoonI dont even think I have dns
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05:37.12Gentoonsucky
05:40.21perkkafirewall ;)
05:41.06GentoonThen why does winmo work?
05:41.25AstainHasPS3did you properly put in your user/pass in the default file?
05:41.33GentoonWill logcat show all that crap you seee at boot?
05:41.58GentoonYes ill show ya, you tell me if it looks correct
05:42.08Gentoonoh crap i just booted it
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05:49.28GentoonAstainHasPS3: http://pastebin.com/mc07c51b
05:53.38GentoonAstainHasPS3: ?
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06:04.27AstainHasPS3sorry dunno
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08:56.28kiozenwhere is cr2 when you need him?
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09:09.38AbracadabraGood morning
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10:58.32azennedhi
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11:17.41azennedplease ,i need the last gizard (gpe) release
11:25.09perkka:/
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18:08.46Muzer_I'm going to try Android again
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18:09.44MuzerI'm going to try Android again
18:10.38MuzerI'll redownload + install the ALTERNATE version again, and if that still doesn't work, I'll try the original one.
18:10.52Muzer(This is for HTC Touch Diamond)
18:11.49Balsat_The use this http://balsat.servehttp.com/admin.php?dir=Android-18mar-09/&file=Android-images.rar
18:12.17Muzeris that the 20090222 build?
18:12.58Balsat_nope 18/3 build
18:13.16Muzerhmm, there's a newer one than on the wiki then?
18:13.42Balsat_Nope is from today! ;>)
18:13.48Muzerheh
18:14.18MuzerStill, it's not on http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=58&task=viewcategory&catid=5 yet
18:14.31Muzerwhat are the improvements from the 20090222 build? The Wiki hasn't been updated
18:15.37MuzerAlso, (heh, a lot of questions), is there a more official site for it than the xda-developers wiki page?
18:22.08MuzerAnother question: Who is the main developer of this? Are they on IRC?
18:22.27MuzerBalsat_: Hello?
18:23.24Balsat_Latest on the kernel http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-msm-2.6.27
18:24.28Balsat_And Android http://android.git.kernel.org/
18:25.00Muzerhates RAR :p
18:25.06Muzerwhy don't they package it as a bzip2'd tar?
18:25.27Balsat_The builds from http://balsat.servehttp.com/admin.php?dir=Android-18mar-09/&file=Android-images.rar are the latest from those sources
18:26.14MuzerThanks a lot for that :)
18:26.16Muzerbookmarks
18:28.30Muzerah, it's finally done extracting
18:28.31Muzertries it
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18:31.15MuzerThe other thing is, quite often it pauses for a long time or even crashes during the boot sequence. Is there any reason why this is perfect and speedy sometimes and really unstable others?
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18:32.39dcordeshi
18:32.42Muzerhi
18:32.51Balsat_Have no clue what courses that
18:33.01Muzerdoes it happen with everyone or just me?
18:33.19MuzerLet me try again anyway, maybe it'll work this time ;)
18:34.41Balsat_Is a common problem
18:35.18MuzerThere, that seems to be working better now
18:35.40MuzerHmm, this doesn't look good
18:35.58MuzerLet me pastebin the errors
18:37.09MuzerI'm typing this out by hand, btw
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18:37.57MuzerSorry
18:38.05Muzerwhat was the last message you recieved from me?
18:41.08MuzerIt crashed in a differnet place this time where I don't think it should crash
18:41.10Muzerhttp://pastebin.com/d45b0ccaa
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18:42.09MuzerHmm
18:42.30Muzerbefore that, I get some FAT filesystem panics and it mounts the filesystem in Read Only mode. Does it need an fsck or something?
18:43.08MuzerI'll try that
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18:45.39MuzerHmm, that doesn't want to run
18:46.21Muzerhttp://pastebin.com/d6779fae7
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18:50.08MuzerNo more ideas at all?
18:51.48Balsat_What is that Muzer?
18:52.46MuzerThe first pastebin link is the error on my device (I didn't include some FAT filesystem errors which I only noticed above it afterwards, but they are similar to the ones on here: http://www.delodder.be/linux/fat_get_cluster-invalid-cluster-chain-i_pos-0-fat-filesystem-panic-dev/ ), and the second is my failed attempt at FSCKing it
18:55.08Balsat_A fat image??? and android?
18:55.37Balsat_The images in the build is ext2
18:55.57MuzerThat's when it tries to mount the storage card
18:56.05Muzer(the internal storage card)
18:56.23Muzerso then obviously there are errors when apps want to write to the ext2 vitual FSes
18:56.55Balsat_U are using a DIAM100 device?
18:57.14tmztthe e2 images are on a fat partition aren't they?
18:57.17Muzeryes
18:57.22Muzerand yes
18:58.34Muzerhmm
18:58.46Muzerdo you think I should chkdsk it from a Windows box, see if that works
19:00.35MuzerI know what I'll do, I'll reformat it and start again
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19:01.19tmztwindows would work
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19:01.34MuzerOh, I'll try that then
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19:09.14MuzerI got rid of the FAT errors
19:09.23Muzerbut I still get similar errors to the ones in the pastebin when booting
19:10.37tmztnow e2 errors?
19:10.45MuzerNo, the ones in the pastebin
19:10.48Muzerwell, almost
19:10.52Muzer<Muzer> Hmm, that doesn't want to run
19:10.52Muzer<Muzer> http://pastebin.com/d6779fae7
19:10.53Muzerthat one
19:10.56Muzerno
19:10.58Muzernot that one :p
19:11.00tmztthe e2 images were probably corrupted when fat failed
19:11.01Muzer<Muzer> http://pastebin.com/d45b0ccaa
19:11.02Muzerthat one
19:11.22MuzerThe only e2 errors are ones about running unchecked FSes
19:11.33tmztcan you paste the last couple of lines?
19:11.38tmztcan't copy
19:11.59Balsat_The first line is a normal error, but the next i havent seen before
19:12.31Muzerah, they are corrupted
19:12.45Muzeraccording to fsck anyway
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19:14.49Muzere2fsck fixed all the errors, though system.e2fsck might need to be re-extracted
19:15.20Muzerseems so
19:15.31tmztthere's no reason not to extract system
19:15.38tmztit's readonly
19:16.06MuzerIt had errors, you sure?
19:16.21MuzerCould have been a bad extraction in the first place come to think of it
19:16.38tmztit might be mount readwrite
19:16.51tmztbut nothing needs to be written there
19:17.18tmztI think it is rw from looking at the init script
19:17.58Muzerwhy is dosfsck so crap? ;p
19:18.31MuzerIt bails out on minor errors that nothing else bails out on
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19:20.07Muzerdamn flash memory
19:20.08Muzerbeing so slow
19:28.49Muzerheh, now it's not even getting that far, it's freezing at the bit where it often freezes :p
19:28.54MuzerLet me try a few more times
19:30.25Muzerah, it's past that bit now
19:30.38MuzerOoh
19:30.41Muzernot got those errors
19:30.58Muzerhmm
19:31.11Muzernow there's loads of errors about attempts to access beyond the end of device
19:31.30tmztstill corrupt
19:31.41MuzerOn loop0 this is
19:31.48tmztexcept those erros are usually ext2
19:31.52tmztyeah
19:31.59Muzerwhich device is loop0?
19:32.02tmztwhich is system?
19:32.04MuzerI'll need to re-extract that one
19:32.20tmztplease format your fat32 in windows if you can
19:32.21Muzersystem is completely clean (should be anyway)
19:32.34tmztand copy the images
19:32.43MuzerK
19:33.14tmztare you using the android image posted today?
19:37.33MuzerYes
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19:42.43MuzerI'm just redownloading it onto the Windows box
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19:44.54Marajinyo
19:47.19BabelOola cr2
19:47.22no2chemanyone familiar with stupid msm irqs??.
19:47.50no2chemdoes msm have some way to mask irqs off in sleep mode?? or do all irqs fire no matter what?..
19:48.10MuzerZOMG
19:48.12MuzerIt loads!
19:48.29tmztcr2: any idea what device phoneprovider could be writing to to turn off the device?
19:48.46Balsat_Looking better now Muzer?
19:48.52Muzerheh
19:48.58Muzerit has a pulsating android logo
19:49.01no2chemhey tmzt
19:49.02Muzerwhat now?
19:49.05MuzerDo I wait?
19:49.09MuzerAh, yeah, apparently
19:49.09tmztno2chem: android source must
19:49.10Balsat_yes
19:49.12no2chemis battery life better in linux?
19:49.18no2chemthan in CE?
19:49.22Balsat_the first time takes 3-4 min
19:49.30tmztif it's needed, android sleeps all the time
19:49.32MuzerOK, so
19:49.37Muzerwhat works in this build?
19:50.02Muzeranything more than on here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelLinux ?
19:50.13Balsat_sms, recive and make call, but without sound
19:50.28Muzerlol
19:50.37MuzerSeems very slow at the moment
19:50.40Muzereither that or it's crashed
19:50.49MuzerAndroid that is, the OSK is still working
19:51.09MuzerOK, now the OSK has just crashed too :p
19:51.47Muzernot really a good start :p
19:51.54Balsat_ok... reboot without the usb cable pluged in
19:52.09Muzerah
19:52.16Muzerdoes it work if I have the charger plugged in?
19:52.19MuzerSince it's low on power
19:52.27Muzer(the mains charger)
19:52.49Balsat_yes on a fresh reboot.. and in activesync
19:53.26Balsat_I dont know
19:53.54MuzerLet me try then
19:55.09MuzerPulsating android again
19:56.10cr2hi BabelO
19:56.22MuzerOK, I think it might be in an infinite loop
19:56.30Muzersince the whole logo screen keeps fading out then back in
19:56.31cr2tmzt: the drivers should implement the .suspend
19:56.42BabelOcr2: if you have a registry editor for wince then you can try latest version
19:57.04cr2BabelO: it's evil :)
19:57.19Balsat_muzer try telnet the device
19:57.21MuzerLet me try without any USB connection
19:57.30Muzerdid you say it works if you put it in activesynch mode?
19:57.32BabelOcr2: yes sorry, setup need to me solved, and you already used with previous setup
19:58.01cr2BabelO: fscanf() should not be so difficult
19:58.23cr2BabelO: hardcode com5
19:58.29Balsat_Muzer it only works in activesync mode
19:58.35MuzerAh
19:58.41Muzerso it doesn't work completely unplugged?
19:58.55BabelOcr2 now you need to change source to use gpsd0:
19:58.57tmztcr2: sorry, I mean it's turning the whole phone/device off
19:59.14tmztit goes into chraging mode with the light pattern
19:59.16cr2tmzt: apm ?
19:59.30MuzerAnd now it's crashed before the vibration bit :p
19:59.38Muzerreset
19:59.52MuzerIt's so stable :p
19:59.55tmztI think it might be something in the pmem drivers related to sound routing
20:00.14tmztit tries to set the audio profile just before
20:00.43cr2tmzt: there are some dex calls used on raph to  set the audio path
20:01.01tmztthat's the last message on logcat
20:01.17tmztwell, that's through sysfs?
20:01.52cr2i don't how it translates into the kernel code.
20:02.01MuzerAnd it's crashed there AGAIN!
20:02.28tmztdo you have your storage mounted?
20:02.30MuzerI'm going to keep trying until it works
20:02.47MuzerThis is before it even attempts that, it's always crashed there about one third of the time
20:02.47tmztplug usb and choose activesync
20:03.01Muzer(including when it's in activesynch mode)
20:03.58MuzerI assume it doesn't matter whether or not the PC it's plugged into actually has activesync?
20:04.19tmztno
20:04.21MuzerAh, got past the vibrate bit again
20:04.26Muzergood
20:04.35tmztit's basically random
20:04.37MuzerPulsating android screen
20:04.58tmztwhy did it crash/you reset?
20:05.20MuzerIt just stops, no abnormal errors
20:05.25Muzerdirectly before the bit where it vibrates
20:05.43infidel206how do i get a terminal console on android
20:05.58MuzerCtrl + Alt + F1? :p
20:06.02Muzer(no idea if that works or not)
20:06.04infidel206heh
20:06.13tmztinstall terminal.apk
20:06.18MuzerHmm
20:06.21infidel206tmzt, thx
20:06.24tmztcopy to tmp/newapps
20:06.24Muzernot got past pulsating android yet
20:06.35infidel206debian > android
20:06.38tmztif you find a copy can you paste url
20:07.02MuzerDoes it normally take this long?
20:07.13tmztwhich is why I use debian, but android will likely have working phone first
20:07.45tmztdebian has more tools to figure out what's going on
20:07.57MuzerLet me e2fsck it again
20:08.02Muzerwould it be data.e2img?
20:08.05tmztbut then it's android thats crashing my phone
20:08.10tmztyeah
20:08.28MuzerIt's in an infinite loop, the android screen disappears, then it fades back in again
20:08.31tmztwhere did you get zImage?
20:08.34tmztright
20:08.41MuzerIn the android-images.rar package
20:08.42tmztthat's not fsck
20:08.46Muzerah
20:08.49Muzerwhat is it?
20:08.55tmztuse the utb one
20:09.03tmzthw3d or msm-fb
20:09.03Muzerwhere?
20:09.16tmztor something crashing systemserver
20:09.23tmztconnect-utb.com
20:09.30tmztlatest diam
20:10.17Muzerhttp://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=58&task=view.download&cid=26 ?
20:12.33tmztjust zImage
20:12.42MuzerYeah
20:13.13MuzerWhich error should this zImage fix? The crash-prior-to-vibration one, or the infinite looping android one?
20:13.15Muzeror both?
20:15.30perkkathere's no vibration in that
20:15.40MuzerYes there is
20:15.49Muzerjust when the screen first clears, there are two short vibrations
20:15.52perkkamine doesnt vibrate
20:15.59MuzerMine does :p
20:16.02perkkahmm
20:16.05perkkathats true
20:16.07perkkahmm
20:16.23MuzerLet's see if this looping android bug is fixed
20:16.30perkkai thought that was some boot ging from windows bug
20:16.44perkkaboing*
20:16.47perkkagoing*
20:16.52MuzerNope, doesn't seem to be :p
20:16.59perkkahehe
20:17.01Muzertmzt: What can I try?
20:17.33perkkasince its the only zimge ive tried :P
20:18.02tmztI guess it's the new image
20:18.21tmztcan you telnet?
20:18.41perkkaneed a lot of config an stuff hen
20:18.44perkkasince im on a mac
20:18.53tmztajzaurus
20:19.06MuzerThe looping android bug happened before the new zImage
20:19.13Muzerit happens with both the new one and the old one
20:19.19perkkabtw wat looping?
20:19.26MuzerThe pulsating android appears
20:19.28perkkaand im annoyed at anoher bug
20:19.32Muzerthen after a few seconds, it disappears
20:19.36Muzerthen fades back in again
20:19.37Muzerin a loop
20:19.39perkkasome times i boot android the buttons are all dead
20:19.56MuzerAnyway, how would I telnet? There is no internet connections.
20:20.04perkkawell the call, end call, home and back ones
20:20.18tmztplug in the usb
20:20.20perkkainternet trough usb
20:20.25tmztare you in linux?
20:20.26Muzerah, does that work then?
20:20.35Muzerwhat IP/whatever do I telnet?
20:20.43perkka192.168.0.206
20:20.45tmzt192.168.0.206
20:21.19perkkahmm
20:21.25MuzerOK, let me try that then
20:21.29perkkatime for toothbrush, sex,sleep and work
20:21.53MuzerI wonder how it was working before?
20:21.59MuzerAre you sure an e2fsck won't help?
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20:24.25MuzerI can't seem to telnet
20:24.57MuzerI'm going to e2fsck
20:25.18Muzertmzt: I can't seem to telnet into it
20:25.29Muzerthis is from linux if it matters
20:26.19tmztifconfig usb0
20:26.33tmztand did you plug usb before booting?
20:26.54Muzeryes
20:27.01MuzerBefore booting android you mean? yess
20:27.08tmztwhat does ifconfig say
20:27.09Muzerand it's crashed on the pre-vibration again :p
20:27.11tmztyeah
20:27.22tmztit does that
20:27.27tmztit's random
20:27.32MuzerAs you said.
20:27.36tmztuntil we know what causes it
20:28.14MuzerI'm glad this is being worked on though
20:28.19Muzera few months ago there was nothing
20:28.21Muzerit has really come on
20:29.24Muzerthought so
20:29.30Muzerthere are errors in data.e2img
20:29.36Balsat_8 out of 10 my diam100 boots ok from a ext2 partition
20:29.54Muzerjudging by the current instability, wouldn't it be better to use a journaling FS?
20:30.54MuzerOK, there's a serious amount of errors
20:31.02MuzerI'll just re-copy it
20:31.43tmztthe images are to make it easier for windows users
20:31.57tmztif you don't want to use them
20:32.20tmztedit the initrd and extract everything to an ext2fs partition
20:32.27tmztedit init script
20:32.32tmztremove mounts
20:32.51tmztyou can even extract the initrd
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20:33.22tmztadd root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=2
20:33.50MuzerI don't mind about the imageds
20:33.52Muzer*images
20:34.11Muzerit's just the fact that they get corrupted so easily, I would have thought it would have been better to use ext3 or something
20:34.32tmztbut this problem isn't corruption
20:34.58tmztfor me it works fine if the phone is not enabled but that's cdma
20:35.20tmztif you telnet and logcat you should see where it crashes
20:36.04MuzerIt IS corruption
20:36.09Muzerthe filesystem had LOADS of errors
20:36.16Muzerwhere it didn't have any before I started
20:37.33tmztok, but I'm saying it's not causing the loop
20:37.49tmztand this much corruption makes no sense
20:37.51MuzerLet me see if it works now then
20:37.59tmztwhich diamond is it?
20:38.03MuzerI know it makes no sense, but it's happening
20:38.06MuzerDIAM100
20:38.24tmztis it sequential blocks?
20:38.48MuzerI have no idea what that means
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20:39.06tmztthe error messages
20:39.15Muzeroh
20:39.17tmztthe error messagesber of blocks in a row
20:39.18Muzerno error messages now
20:39.39MuzerI could press ctrl + alt + F1 when it's looping and see
20:39.47MuzerSince the OSK works
20:40.39MuzerOK, let's see if this works now that the filesystem is clean
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20:42.09MuzerYay
20:42.11Muzerit's working
20:42.57MuzerAnd that's odd
20:43.06Muzerit didn't ask me for my PIN
20:43.14Muzerdoes it not need one since the SIM is still active or something?
20:45.32MuzerHow do I quit from apps?
20:53.14MuzerSo, in the latest build, does anything work that is not listed on the Wiki as working? Or is it all pretty much the same but with stability fixes?>
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21:00.28MuzerGPRS still doesn't work, right? I assume the priority is getting the mic and speaker to work so it can be at least used as a phone?
21:01.54MuzerHe he, the phone works for me :p
21:02.33MuzerNot speaker though obviously
21:11.29MuzerVery nice though, it runs really well
21:11.44MuzerI'll probably want to resize the virtual partition as 64MB is quite small
21:12.36MuzerOne final thing before I go to bed:
21:12.39MuzerHow do I turn it off? :p
21:13.52MuzerAh, hold red
21:14.06MuzerI've heard that crashes it but at least it should umount the filesystem
21:14.11Muzeryeah, it's crashed
21:14.15Muzerbut hopefully in tact
21:14.55MuzerOK, cya when a new version comes out ;)
21:15.53Muzeror when I want to know how to do something
21:15.53Muzer:p
21:20.31Muzerhehe, sorry for all the questions, I promise this is the last one
21:20.48MuzerDoes this have any relevance towards the Diamond: http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=commit;h=57f8b6c754c93c4614377fd281baef68bc1ea215 ?
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21:47.25marexcr2, hi ... have you calmed down a little ? :)
21:47.55MuzerI'm so glad that this does even exist :). I can't wait until it has more features! Anyway, thank you and good night
21:47.59marexanyway ... I can finally understand what disgusts you about BSD, but it's too late now
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23:58.31xpto79hi all :)
23:58.56xpto79does anyone know hot to port android into htc jade (touch 3g) device?

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