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00:27.38 | maejrep[w] | AstainEEE: working so much lately, haven't had a chance to play :/ |
00:31.19 | AstainEEE | ahh ok |
00:31.28 | AstainEEE | on raph800 getting odd issue |
00:32.54 | AstainEEE | pc_clk_enable something about ena |
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01:22.07 | maejrep | AstainEEE: that's cause some of the clocks we don't know how to enable yet |
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01:52.28 | power_usr | AstainEEE you are testing out raph800? |
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02:27.27 | AstainEEE | yes power_usr |
02:27.37 | AstainEEE | ahh maejrep |
02:27.55 | AstainEEE | the big issue I have is it seems to no longer mount sd |
02:48.34 | power_usr | AstainEEE: are you looking primarily at Android or just Linux on the RAPH800? How are things progressing? I'm looking forward to a new build being released |
02:49.12 | AstainEEE | either |
02:49.22 | power_usr | you do dev work too? |
02:49.26 | AstainEEE | progress is good |
02:49.51 | AstainEEE | I do what I can to help but not much direct dev from me... just dont know howtodo it much yet |
02:50.12 | power_usr | ok cool thx |
02:50.28 | power_usr | There have been murmurs that data now works |
02:50.29 | AstainEEE | sure |
02:50.39 | power_usr | is it really the case? |
02:50.48 | AstainEEE | kinda tmzt tested it and it worked but had issues but he had raph500 |
02:51.05 | AstainEEE | I need to try this on a fresh sd |
02:51.06 | power_usr | oh ok. so you have seen it on raph800 |
02:51.37 | power_usr | haven't |
02:51.38 | AstainEEE | not yet either my sd is having issues or my kernel |
02:51.44 | AstainEEE | but colors look great |
02:51.49 | power_usr | cool cool |
02:52.06 | power_usr | I downloaded a random build link with fixed colors, but it would crash once the final android screen would load |
02:52.22 | power_usr | i.e. the flashing android logo was shown, but right before main screen, phone rebooted |
02:53.16 | AstainEEE | ah hmm one from forum? |
02:53.42 | power_usr | yeah |
02:53.49 | power_usr | from IRC |
02:53.53 | power_usr | maybe 4 days ago two links were posted |
02:53.58 | power_usr | maybe my maejrep |
02:54.03 | power_usr | once didn't work at all |
02:54.10 | power_usr | one worked but had that crashing problem |
02:54.40 | power_usr | so now i'm just waiting for a build to be released on connect-utb |
02:56.00 | AstainEEE | yah on the kernel I've got now I am getting mmc timeouts |
02:56.40 | power_usr | does any of them main devs own a raph800? |
02:57.53 | AstainEEE | maejrep, does |
02:58.18 | maejrep | AstainEEE: I don't think anything changed with mmc |
02:59.09 | AstainEEE | ok must be something with my card then |
02:59.21 | power_usr | i use my raph800 on SERO here in the US. it's great. too bad Sprint doesn't have an android phone |
02:59.23 | AstainEEE | will try a nice simple fresh formatted 1gb sd |
02:59.37 | AstainEEE | give it time power_usr they will soonish |
02:59.51 | power_usr | yup |
03:00.09 | maejrep | AstainEEE: whats in your default.txt |
03:00.15 | power_usr | but AstainEEE, there might be something with mcc, because the latest connect-utb build gives me some errors in mounting files |
03:00.33 | maejrep | power_usr: the latest on connect-utb doesn't have any of the recent changes |
03:00.37 | AstainEEE | power_usr, mines built right fresh off the git |
03:00.43 | power_usr | oh ok |
03:00.44 | maejrep | i think the latest on connect-utb is from mid-feb |
03:00.47 | AstainEEE | one sec maejrep |
03:00.47 | power_usr | yup |
03:00.49 | power_usr | feb 19th |
03:02.03 | maejrep | AstainEEE: and what initrd are you using? |
03:02.58 | AstainEEE | i believe its one from connect-utb |
03:03.57 | AstainEEE | set MTYPE 1910 |
03:03.57 | AstainEEE | set KERNEL zImage |
03:03.57 | AstainEEE | set INITRD root.cpiogz |
03:03.57 | AstainEEE | set RAMADDR 0x10000000 |
03:03.57 | AstainEEE | set cmdline "root=/dev/ram0 init=/init console=tty0 mem=76M msmsdcc_id=3 msmts_calib=0x6D.0x5D.0x340.0x375 msmvkeyb_toggle=hide" |
03:03.59 | AstainEEE | boot |
03:04.10 | AstainEEE | my default.txt.. |
03:04.40 | maejrep | ah ok, I didn't have any luck with that initrd |
03:04.44 | maejrep | I'm still using angstrom |
03:05.07 | maejrep | this is my default.txt: http://www.privatepaste.com/87kLOuUnAb |
03:05.10 | AstainEEE | you angstrom build have ppp |
03:05.28 | maejrep | it has pppd, but I don't know if it has all the dependencies for it |
03:05.45 | maejrep | and doesn't have the scripts to automatically set up the data connection |
03:06.29 | maejrep | that looks like raph100 |
03:06.57 | power_usr | i use same one as AstainEEEE |
03:07.01 | AstainEEE | yah it is just with msmsdcc_id=3 |
03:07.17 | power_usr | And it worked with me for the Feb 3rd build |
03:07.22 | power_usr | Those settings were from wiki or something |
03:07.38 | maejrep | the mtype is wrong though |
03:07.45 | maejrep | the mtype is for raph100, not raph800 |
03:07.51 | AstainEEE | hmmm |
03:07.52 | maejrep | mtype 2039 is for raph800 |
03:07.57 | power_usr | ok |
03:08.00 | power_usr | not sure why it booted |
03:08.02 | power_usr | we should update wiki |
03:08.03 | AstainEEE | maybe that part of issue |
03:08.04 | maejrep | that's probably why you're having mmc problems |
03:08.21 | maejrep | msmsdcc_id is no longer used or parsed |
03:08.28 | maejrep | it sets up the sdcc id based on mtype |
03:08.30 | power_usr | oh wiki is updated already |
03:08.32 | power_usr | hmm |
03:08.34 | AstainEEE | ahh ok |
03:08.50 | AstainEEE | hmm time to try again then |
03:08.54 | maejrep | :p |
03:09.33 | AstainEEE | that did it! |
03:09.50 | power_usr | damn |
03:09.52 | power_usr | wow |
03:09.55 | maejrep | heh good to know it wasn't me that broke it ;p |
03:10.08 | AstainEEE | lol yep |
03:10.50 | AstainEEE | but got same results as power_usr power off and reboot as android loads |
03:11.12 | power_usr | yup |
03:11.51 | power_usr | i guess linux works |
03:11.56 | power_usr | just not android :P |
03:13.29 | AstainEEE | hmm more interesting it shuts off for me not reboot |
03:13.39 | maejrep | the old android 0.8 initrd works |
03:13.59 | maejrep | i need to look back at what lavender first did to get android 1.0 to work, and see what needs to change for it |
03:14.08 | AstainEEE | maejrep, where your angstrom initrd from? |
03:14.09 | maejrep | I only tried android 1.0 once, and it didn't work |
03:14.13 | maejrep | from NetRipper |
03:14.20 | AstainEEE | ok |
03:15.04 | AstainEEE | hmm wonder would old initrd work with new data files |
03:15.26 | maejrep | no, android 0.8 doesn't work by mounting the img from sd |
03:15.45 | maejrep | it works by cramming the entire android fs into the initrd |
03:15.47 | AstainEEE | ohh right |
03:15.58 | maejrep | but 1.0 was too big, hence why it needed sd support first |
03:16.21 | maejrep | the initrd i use is: http://www.netripper.com/raphael/20081204-01_raph_diam_angstrom_usb/ |
03:16.27 | maejrep | initrd-angstrom-usb.cpio.gz |
03:17.09 | power_usr | AstainEEE: I just tried booting Android and you are right, it shuts down. Not reboot |
03:17.22 | maejrep | just turns off? |
03:17.32 | power_usr | Yeah |
03:17.45 | AstainEEE | yep shows the two green men for a while then off |
03:17.47 | maejrep | hmm, only way i could get it to turn off was writing AT+CFUN=0 to smd0 |
03:17.48 | power_usr | Exactly |
03:18.05 | maejrep | (which is how its supposed to power off ;) |
03:18.37 | maejrep | AstainEEE: know off hand what's needed for 1.0? |
03:18.44 | maejrep | aside from connect-utb's package |
03:19.14 | AstainEEE | not sure it used to work cept for the colors |
03:19.27 | AstainEEE | tmzt, said something about usb_diag maybe causing the shutoff |
03:19.30 | maejrep | the kernel shouldn't have changed anything about how the android init worked |
03:19.47 | maejrep | i thought diag was only the reason smd1 wasn't working |
03:20.05 | AstainEEE | yes |
03:20.35 | power_usr | That new MTYPE is good. Now both of those versions you posted online a few days ago, maejrep, get to the shutdown mode. Previously one had SD card issues. |
03:20.37 | maejrep | i'll see if i can boot to angstrom and get the android images mounted |
03:20.37 | AstainEEE | but I belive that tmzt was saying with diag gone that was cause of crash.. just vague recolection |
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03:20.53 | maejrep | oh |
03:21.44 | power_usr | Having two testers helps isolate problems :) |
03:21.48 | power_usr | i.e. we don't sound as isane |
03:21.52 | Venny | is there gonna be a new release to the raph800 adroid? |
03:21.59 | maejrep | heh |
03:22.50 | power_usr | Venny: right now it looks like Android 1.0 is having issues on RAPH800 |
03:23.00 | power_usr | although it probalby isn't something huge |
03:23.06 | power_usr | but I'm not a developer |
03:23.55 | power_usr | At least the color issue is fixed, but no build exists with color issue fixed and Android 1.0 working |
03:24.23 | Venny | D: ive been waiting forever |
03:25.28 | maejrep | hmm, well angstrom is able to mount the e2 images |
03:25.42 | maejrep | so i wonder why connect-utb's initrd is having problems with it |
03:26.32 | Venny | I wish i new how to porgram lol |
03:26.44 | power_usr | yup |
03:27.34 | AstainEEE | angstrom works well |
03:28.15 | power_usr | Is there a GUI with Anstrom? |
03:29.24 | AstainEEE | maejrep, can you start android from within the angstrom? |
03:30.05 | maejrep | AstainEEE: not sure |
03:32.57 | AstainEEE | w00t ssh works |
03:33.02 | power_usr | heh |
03:33.06 | power_usr | you mean data? |
03:33.49 | maejrep | gonna try angstrom again to see if it'll start up android |
03:34.09 | power_usr | I'm gonna try angstrom over here :) |
03:34.34 | AstainEEE | ssh over usb power_usr |
03:34.42 | power_usr | hmm |
03:34.47 | power_usr | usb to what? a linux machine? |
03:35.18 | AstainEEE | yes power_usr |
03:35.27 | AstainEEE | to my eee running easypeasy |
03:36.24 | AstainEEE | hmm |
03:36.43 | AstainEEE | mounting all the images caused it to lock up |
03:36.51 | AstainEEE | nope just hang |
03:37.15 | AstainEEE | nope lock up for me |
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03:38.45 | maejrep | images mount fine for me |
03:38.50 | maejrep | but angstrom doesn't have init.android :p |
03:39.05 | maejrep | guess i'll have to hack at the root.cpio |
03:39.57 | maejrep | /dev/loop0 on /system type ext2 (rw,errors=continue) |
03:39.57 | maejrep | /dev/loop1 on /data type ext2 (rw,errors=continue) |
03:39.57 | maejrep | /dev/loop2 on /cache type ext2 (rw,errors=continue) |
03:40.50 | AstainEEE | ahh maybe shoulda dne that way |
03:41.42 | power_usr | i'll have to test out angstrom tomorrow. having issues with activesync |
03:42.04 | AstainEEE | power_usr, set raph to usb drive mode |
03:42.18 | power_usr | when i copy files over |
03:42.18 | AstainEEE | in settings connecttion usb to pc |
03:42.20 | power_usr | they become all caps |
03:42.35 | power_usr | unless I do it in ActiveSync |
03:42.41 | power_usr | I copied the files over, but it couldn't boot properly |
03:42.50 | AstainEEE | wierd |
03:42.56 | power_usr | and color didn't look right |
03:43.36 | power_usr | i'll let you know where it crashes this time |
03:44.16 | power_usr | drivers/rtc/hctosys.c: unable to open rtc device (trc0) |
03:44.23 | power_usr | trout_pwrsink_set:STUB! |
03:44.38 | power_usr | that is where it hangs right now |
03:46.08 | power_usr | anyways, gotta run |
03:46.21 | power_usr | but it sounds like we were able to help maejrep out a little |
03:46.22 | power_usr | which is good |
03:47.17 | power_usr | laters |
03:47.27 | AstainEEE | ttfn power_usr |
03:48.17 | maejrep | heh oops |
03:48.22 | AstainEEE | oops? |
03:49.08 | maejrep | commented out the initrd's "exec /init.android" line |
03:49.13 | maejrep | and forgot to replace it with a shell ;x |
03:49.20 | AstainEEE | lol |
03:54.05 | maejrep | seems i'm still getting random hangs at console handover |
03:54.21 | pzztgotbagz | so mae u think when g1 gets update |
03:54.27 | pzztgotbagz | ull have a little better base to work with |
03:54.39 | AstainEEE | pzztgotbagz, no |
03:54.48 | pzztgotbagz | u shush stain |
03:54.49 | pzztgotbagz | hehe |
03:55.01 | AstainEEE | g1 is actually behind in the actual android code |
03:55.25 | pzztgotbagz | ya but code and having an actual base to work off of are sometimes different |
03:55.45 | maejrep | pzztgotbagz: i'll be honest, I'm not following g1 very closely, or even android for that matter |
03:55.45 | AstainEEE | pzztgotbagz, you're too used to wimo and not linux |
03:56.02 | maejrep | as I've said before, I've only booted android 0.8 2 or 3 times on my device |
03:56.10 | maejrep | and have yet to see android 1.0 on it |
03:56.36 | maejrep | I don't think many people realize that what i've been doing has been getting linux support for the hardware, not android support |
03:56.45 | maejrep | what most of us have been doing |
03:57.53 | pzztgotbagz | ahhh gto cha maejrep |
03:58.01 | pzztgotbagz | and ya i guess so astain |
03:58.23 | AstainEEE | pzztgotbagz, with linux if you have source you can generally build your full app |
03:58.27 | AstainEEE | and run it |
03:58.31 | pzztgotbagz | isnt there 2 diff linux platforms |
03:58.35 | pzztgotbagz | for devices |
03:58.36 | maejrep | ok, so within calling init.android, it boots up |
03:58.38 | pzztgotbagz | i know android is 1 |
03:58.41 | pzztgotbagz | and then there is another |
04:00.09 | maejrep | AstainEEE: when I run init.android, it prints something about not finding playmp3, then something about rild, then the screen goes blank and it appears to hang |
04:00.11 | maejrep | doesn't turn off though |
04:00.31 | AstainEEE | pzztgotbagz, there is lots of arm linux platforms |
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04:00.41 | AstainEEE | hmm my laptop just woke up |
04:00.53 | maejrep | oh that's not your PS3? :P |
04:00.58 | AstainEEE | hmm wonder why it hangs for you and not me |
04:01.03 | AstainEEE | lol nope not ps3 |
04:01.18 | maejrep | it doesn't hang for you? |
04:01.52 | AstainEEE | for me it shuts off not tried your method |
04:02.17 | maejrep | same thing happens if I just let the root.cpio boot normally |
04:02.25 | maejrep | I edited the cpio and removed init.android |
04:02.35 | maejrep | then I can telnet in, and it looks fine |
04:02.41 | maejrep | but running init.android causes this |
04:03.29 | AstainEEE | hmm |
04:03.37 | AstainEEE | I wonder what all init.android runs |
04:03.43 | maejrep | its binary |
04:04.18 | AstainEEE | wonder why it suddenly now is causing the issue |
04:04.37 | maejrep | hmm, i wonder if its related to an smd change |
04:04.48 | maejrep | maybe it runs some AT commands that raph800 can't deal with |
04:05.05 | AstainEEE | hmm possibly |
04:05.23 | maejrep | guess i could try it without the smd_7500 support |
04:09.13 | AstainEEE | if you want I can rebuild and try it for you |
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04:13.38 | maejrep | meh, same thing |
04:14.09 | maejrep | it's supposed to take a long time the first time, right? |
04:14.17 | maejrep | but it should be displaying the android logo? |
04:14.33 | AstainEEE | did it yet |
04:14.41 | AstainEEE | takes a long time before it displays logo |
04:22.11 | AstainEEE | hmm for me it started loading android but never displayed the little green men with building it straight off the htcraphael_defconfig |
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04:29.39 | tiger2wander | hi all |
04:29.52 | AstainEEE | hi |
04:30.10 | tiger2wander | Could anybody please tell me where to get guide for mtty tool? |
04:30.29 | tiger2wander | also it's command list :) |
04:30.45 | AstainEEE | maejrep, it loaded for me with some changes to default.txt and smd_7500 off |
04:33.45 | AstainEEE | if you make your default.txt the same as mine except for the right mtype and build kernel with the defconfig it works perfect |
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04:53.47 | maejrep | AstainEEE: i left it and went to watch tv for a bit .. when i came back it was in wince ;x |
04:54.13 | maejrep | will work on it some more tomorrow |
04:56.02 | AstainEEE | cool thx |
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09:01.06 | Marajin | morning peoples |
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09:10.41 | Marajin | morning BabelO_ |
09:11.01 | BabelO_ | morning Marajin |
09:13.17 | Marajin | how's it going? |
09:18.07 | BabelO_ | Marajin: good with sun :) and 22°C for the morning... good day |
09:18.15 | Marajin | heh |
09:18.21 | Marajin | it's distinctly colder than that here.. |
09:18.26 | Marajin | turns up the fanheater. |
09:18.48 | BabelO_ | :) |
09:19.14 | Marajin | however I get my new shiny today! |
09:19.22 | Marajin | I just checked the parcel tracking and it's out for delivery, yay |
09:25.42 | Abracadabra | good morning |
09:25.59 | Marajin | morning Abracadabra |
09:27.46 | Abracadabra | where's the latest info on Linux for HTC (Kaiser) ? |
09:28.03 | Abracadabra | or a neopwn equivalent :) |
09:28.14 | Marajin | what'd you want to know? |
09:28.48 | Abracadabra | well, I am still looking out for a Linux OS for my HTC |
09:28.57 | Marajin | the kaiser versions work ok frankly |
09:29.05 | Abracadabra | last I heard, there was some issues |
09:29.22 | Abracadabra | like MicroSD couldn't be read or something |
09:29.23 | Marajin | we have SD (mostly), PM, audio, calling/texts, Android loads, GPS I think (it used to work anyway) |
09:29.34 | Marajin | dzo fixed that a bit back |
09:29.41 | Abracadabra | oh cool |
09:30.03 | Marajin | some SDHC cards are still a bit fuzzy but mostly it works |
09:30.07 | Abracadabra | I'm still kinda new to all this |
09:30.18 | Marajin | well don't worry, we all were at some point |
09:30.28 | Abracadabra | I installed a WM Rom a few months back |
09:30.41 | Abracadabra | but I'd like to install something similar to neopwn |
09:30.52 | Marajin | I seem to be flashing my WM rom every week :p |
09:31.00 | Marajin | I dunno about getting neopwn on it though |
09:31.13 | Abracadabra | neopwn is hardware-dependent |
09:31.18 | Abracadabra | afaik |
09:31.51 | Abracadabra | but the idea is still ... Linux OS and specific apps installed |
09:32.19 | Abracadabra | where do you go to flash your ROM so often ? |
09:32.29 | Marajin | the xda-developer's forum |
09:32.34 | Abracadabra | ok |
09:32.42 | Abracadabra | and for Linux ROM ? |
09:33.06 | Marajin | http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=378 |
09:33.09 | Marajin | erm, here mostly :P |
09:33.15 | Abracadabra | lol |
09:33.47 | Abracadabra | the term flashing and ROM always scares me |
09:33.51 | Marajin | heh |
09:34.19 | Marajin | No worries, I've had two bad flashes in like the whole lifetime of my kaiser and both recovered fine |
09:34.20 | Abracadabra | I feel like the more you flash, the more you are likely to damage it |
09:34.26 | Marajin | as long as you have hardSPL you're usually ok |
09:34.39 | Abracadabra | SPL is to unlock, right ? |
09:34.57 | Marajin | the SPL is kinda the bios of a HTC |
09:35.25 | Marajin | putting on hardspl lets you do some debugging and flash any valid ROM you want |
09:35.42 | Marajin | ya know where it goes into that 3 colour screen? |
09:35.46 | Abracadabra | yes |
09:35.51 | Marajin | that's SPL |
09:35.55 | Abracadabra | ok |
09:35.58 | Abracadabra | :) |
09:36.14 | Abracadabra | noob language always works fine with me ;) |
09:36.17 | Marajin | can flash from a computer over USB or from the SD Card, whatever suits you |
09:36.30 | Marajin | I guess from SD is safer cause you can't knock the wire |
09:36.32 | Abracadabra | over USB is my prefered choice atm |
09:36.54 | Marajin | yeah I've done both and both worked fine |
09:37.05 | Abracadabra | which is fastest (if any) ? |
09:38.23 | Marajin | neither is noteably faster IME |
09:38.33 | Marajin | I guess possibly SD is but eh |
09:39.38 | Abracadabra | fair enough |
09:40.02 | Abracadabra | out of curiosity, what info are needed to get the correct roms for my device ? |
09:40.16 | Marajin | pretty much you just need to know what device you have |
09:40.19 | Abracadabra | there is so much info out there, I am lost |
09:40.28 | Marajin | kaiser's aren't very varied |
09:40.36 | Marajin | so all the kaiser roms should flash ok |
09:41.09 | Marajin | about the only thing worth noting is whether you have a tilt or not cause the keyboard is different |
09:41.16 | Abracadabra | well, I have been asked about radio rom version, which manufacturer (well telecoms company), etc... |
09:41.30 | Abracadabra | ok, yes I have |
09:41.34 | Marajin | well old radio roms won't work with new WM builds |
09:41.45 | Marajin | I think the kaiser has run everything from WM5 to WM6.5 |
09:41.52 | Abracadabra | 6.5 ? |
09:42.01 | Marajin | I think you need something in the 1.6x and newer for WM over 6 |
09:42.01 | Abracadabra | I thought 6.1 was the latest :/ |
09:42.11 | Marajin | 6.5 is in beta and releases in september this year |
09:42.17 | Abracadabra | ok |
09:42.20 | Marajin | but there are 6.5 roms already on the xda-developers forum I linked |
09:42.35 | Abracadabra | yes, I had a quick glance |
09:42.35 | Marajin | the core of 6.5 is faster but the new menus are a bit laggy IME |
09:42.58 | Abracadabra | is it possible to have some kind of dual boot ? |
09:43.21 | Marajin | No but you boot linux from the SD card rather than the internal flash so you can kinda dual boot linux and WM |
09:43.26 | Marajin | but can't dual boot WM versions |
09:43.36 | Abracadabra | that is fine |
09:43.46 | Abracadabra | I'd like to keep WM too |
09:44.00 | Abracadabra | I use tomtom as I drive fair distances |
09:44.11 | Marajin | oh well it's not possible to completely flash a kaiser to linux so you'd have to keep WM |
09:44.15 | Abracadabra | but I would also like to have linux and play with it |
09:44.30 | Marajin | what ya do is boot WM then run a program that will load linux into memory and then kick WM out of memory and jump into linux |
09:44.42 | Abracadabra | is the info also on the link you pasted ? |
09:44.47 | Abracadabra | nifty ;) |
09:44.51 | Marajin | then as soon as you reset your phone it'll boot back into WM |
09:45.11 | Marajin | it should be yeah, there's definitely a thread about booting android (which is linux based anyway and uses the same methods) |
09:45.54 | Abracadabra | what about WM and linux apps for HTC, where can I find them ? |
09:46.11 | Marajin | most WM apps are compatible with all WM devices |
09:46.28 | Marajin | linux apps kinda have to be custom built currently, don't think anyone really makes a package repo for modern HTC devices |
09:46.42 | Abracadabra | :( |
09:46.49 | Marajin | android apps you just copy to a folder on your SD card and it finds them automatically |
09:47.19 | Marajin | technically once linux is very happy on the HTC devices though existing repos would probably work for it cause it's all still just ARM |
09:47.45 | Marajin | I think people have extracted existing packages into their rootfs on kaiser and it worked |
09:48.19 | Marajin | I haven't been following the pure linux development much recently, dcordes might know when he's around |
09:48.57 | Abracadabra | which ROM did you like best ? |
09:49.03 | Abracadabra | out of the ones you have tried ? |
09:49.16 | Marajin | WM roms? it kinda becomes pretty much a personal choice |
09:49.31 | Marajin | I'm currently using the Athineos ones. I used to like the schaps roms but he hasn't made one in a while |
09:50.11 | Marajin | the L26 roms were neat when they were first stealing the diamond apps and putting them on the kaiser |
09:50.47 | Abracadabra | so if you don't mind me asking ... what is the correct procedure to flash a rom ? |
09:51.06 | Abracadabra | the only time I tried, it took me 3 days, and was hell on earth |
09:51.16 | Marajin | um, connect your kaiser via usb, run the .exe file that's in the rom archive you downloaded and it'll sort itself out mostly |
09:51.28 | Marajin | you probably already have hardspl if you already flashed a rom before |
09:51.29 | Abracadabra | luckily people form the xda-dev chan were extremely helpful and patient |
09:51.33 | Marajin | so it should take care of itself now |
09:51.51 | Abracadabra | so I just have to download a rom and install it ? |
09:52.11 | Marajin | or else take the .nbh file and rename it KAISIMG.nbh and stick it on your SD card and then hold down the right buttons (I forgot the sequence, it'll be on the forums) and it'll pretty much just flash itself |
09:52.24 | Marajin | yep |
09:52.48 | Marajin | download the rar, extract it somewhere, run the RRU exe and it'll go through a wizard that'll get it all set up |
09:53.00 | Marajin | oh, and make sure your phone has finished actually syncing with activesync before you do it |
09:53.07 | Abracadabra | ok |
09:53.10 | Marajin | it has to be connected and synced for safety |
09:53.29 | Marajin | I gotta head off for a bit now mate but I'll be around later if you still got questions |
09:53.30 | Abracadabra | right, time to see what rom I can try then :) |
09:53.51 | Marajin | don't forget you'll lose stuff like your call logs and SMS unless you use something like PIMbackup to back 'em up |
09:54.22 | Marajin | anything on the phones internal memory will wipe, anything on the SD card or SIM will be safe (or should be) |
09:55.26 | Abracadabra | I'll take the SD out before I flash ;) |
09:56.18 | Abracadabra | PIMbackup ? |
09:56.21 | Abracadabra | heard of that |
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11:22.13 | Marajin | ello ello |
11:22.22 | captnoord | yo |
11:22.35 | Marajin | how's it going? |
11:22.53 | captnoord | atm kinda good |
11:22.58 | Marajin | yeah? |
11:22.59 | Marajin | good to hear |
11:23.26 | captnoord | I may get a additional year of study finantial help |
11:23.32 | Marajin | nice! |
11:24.02 | captnoord | and the sister of my girl is taking care of my pressent for her |
11:24.19 | Marajin | cool |
11:25.55 | captnoord | damn lingerie is expensive |
11:26.04 | captnoord | 30% is the avarage take |
11:26.06 | captnoord | I mean |
11:26.14 | captnoord | I pay about 90 euro's for a very nice piece |
11:26.15 | captnoord | ok |
11:26.22 | captnoord | I mean.... I can digg that |
11:26.23 | captnoord | but |
11:26.24 | captnoord | 30% |
11:26.29 | captnoord | is 30 euro's |
11:26.57 | captnoord | meaning there cost is about 60 euro's all in, manufacturing, transport and all that shit |
11:26.59 | captnoord | and at the end |
11:27.04 | captnoord | they take 30 euro's |
11:27.04 | captnoord | damn |
11:27.18 | captnoord | if you ever think of making money |
11:30.07 | Marajin | hmm my new phone better hurry up arriving, or my kaiser is going to die first :P |
11:30.31 | Marajin | (I'm playing a mini game of 'will the kaiser battery die before the X1 arrives') |
11:30.48 | captnoord | suggests overcharging |
11:31.10 | Marajin | heh, nah I'm playing it based on 'the battery was already at 39% as of 9pm last night' |
11:31.24 | Marajin | 25% now |
11:31.28 | captnoord | lol |
11:31.44 | captnoord | the batt sensor sucks anyway |
11:31.45 | captnoord | so |
11:31.52 | captnoord | its quite possible its still ok |
11:31.56 | Marajin | yeah but I'm counting failure at the point where WM shits itself |
11:31.59 | captnoord | but the software is making it sick |
11:32.07 | captnoord | hmmmm |
11:32.10 | captnoord | thats better |
11:32.34 | Marajin | well the battery isn't really that bad battery life, it just was low charge so I'm seeing if it will completely discharge before the x1 arrives |
11:32.49 | captnoord | heheheheheheheheheheheeh |
11:32.50 | Marajin | it probably won't.. it's 11:30am already, I really expect the X1 to arrive inside a c oupla hours |
11:32.54 | captnoord | when the x1 will? |
11:32.57 | captnoord | aaahhhh |
11:32.58 | captnoord | nice |
11:33.02 | captnoord | crossses fingers |
11:33.15 | Marajin | according to the package tracking it's 'out for delivery' as of 7:30 this morning |
11:33.31 | Marajin | so my doorbell could ring any minute really |
11:33.42 | Marajin | I've had phones delivered as early as 8am before heh :P |
11:33.51 | captnoord | are you going to make linux run on the phone? |
11:33.52 | captnoord | :P |
11:33.57 | captnoord | hehe |
11:34.07 | Marajin | it already runs the raph dists |
11:34.25 | Marajin | they're pretty similar hardware |
11:34.33 | captnoord | nice |
11:35.34 | Marajin | I think there's some issue with the keyboard or something, I'll find out later |
11:39.08 | Marajin | and heh, yeah lingerie costs a lot but you get a lot of fun outta it ;) |
11:39.19 | Marajin | I tend to go jewellery though |
11:39.31 | captnoord | especialy if you know how my girl looks like |
11:39.31 | captnoord | hehe |
11:39.35 | Marajin | I've bought my girl a coupla necklaces and a silver heart shaped jewellery box |
11:39.50 | Marajin | I'm more than happy with mine ;) |
11:40.09 | captnoord | it took me a while to get her |
11:40.11 | captnoord | but now |
11:40.12 | captnoord | :D |
11:40.15 | captnoord | 3 year happy |
11:40.18 | captnoord | and she is my rock |
11:40.18 | captnoord | :D |
11:40.29 | Marajin | and a little monkey with a heart and a 'I heart my geek' message printed on it as a joke |
11:40.34 | Marajin | yeah I'm at 3 1/2 years |
11:40.54 | captnoord | me to more or less |
11:41.08 | Marajin | 9th september 2005 |
11:41.13 | captnoord | there is only 1 date important to remember |
11:41.19 | captnoord | and thats her birthday |
11:41.27 | captnoord | which is fairly easy to remember |
11:41.28 | captnoord | :P |
11:41.32 | captnoord | 1 april |
11:41.37 | Marajin | nah man you gotta remember birthday, valetines, anniversary and christmas |
11:41.42 | Marajin | it's expensive having a girl :p |
11:41.59 | captnoord | lol |
11:42.00 | captnoord | nope |
11:42.03 | captnoord | for me |
11:42.07 | Marajin | and if you have a kid then you gotta start remembering mother's day too |
11:42.07 | captnoord | its only birthdays |
11:42.13 | captnoord | yup |
11:42.22 | captnoord | adds it to his planning |
11:42.31 | captnoord | damn its usefull to have a phone with features like that |
11:42.35 | Marajin | haha |
11:42.41 | Marajin | yeah I love my HTCs for that |
11:42.49 | Marajin | a few days before the date I get poked to get gifts |
11:43.01 | captnoord | for me 1 month |
11:43.08 | captnoord | because I knew its gonne be a hard one |
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11:43.13 | Marajin | heh :P |
11:43.21 | captnoord | http://deja.jails.nl/Data/Shared/Pictures/14-02-07_1239.jpg |
11:43.30 | captnoord | valentines day |
11:43.40 | Marajin | heh |
11:43.41 | captnoord | the teddy is like 1.5 meters |
11:43.43 | Marajin | hurray for bears :P |
11:43.44 | captnoord | I mean |
11:43.52 | captnoord | I should have gone for something smaller |
11:43.58 | captnoord | but I raised the bar to fast |
11:44.25 | Marajin | that happens |
11:44.30 | captnoord | http://deja.jails.nl/Data/Shared/Pictures/DSC00206.JPG |
11:44.32 | captnoord | hmmmm |
11:44.33 | Marajin | ended up with 100 euro box of chocolates once |
11:44.36 | captnoord | damn i'm lucky |
11:44.55 | Marajin | that's your girl huh? |
11:44.56 | captnoord | or |
11:44.58 | Marajin | yep, lucky man |
11:44.58 | captnoord | http://deja.jails.nl/Data/Shared/Pictures/x-rays-2009/leg-under-right/been004_small_safe.jpg |
11:45.00 | captnoord | unlucky |
11:45.05 | captnoord | she's mine |
11:45.27 | Marajin | you have a steel rod in your leg? |
11:45.35 | captnoord | titanium |
11:45.36 | captnoord | yup |
11:45.44 | Marajin | heh, well ya see it's balance right |
11:45.50 | Marajin | you horribly break your leg but you get a great girl |
11:46.05 | captnoord | she's crazy |
11:46.09 | captnoord | really she is |
11:46.21 | captnoord | she is like.... "hey GET ME A BEER" |
11:46.30 | captnoord | and i'm like |
11:46.32 | captnoord | looooool |
11:46.57 | captnoord | just the girl a geek needs |
11:46.57 | captnoord | :P |
11:47.04 | Marajin | http://marajin.w-ww.org/randompics/adaglowy.jpg <-- Not exactly revealing clothing, I don't have any that are 'safe' that are at all revealing :P |
11:47.21 | Marajin | well mine's an Electrical Engineering and Comp Sci student so it works for me :p |
11:47.22 | captnoord | hmmmm |
11:47.24 | captnoord | nice |
11:47.35 | captnoord | O btw is her head always like that |
11:47.35 | captnoord | :P |
11:47.36 | captnoord | lol |
11:47.42 | Marajin | tilted? heh :P |
11:47.43 | Marajin | no |
11:47.49 | captnoord | meaning |
11:47.50 | captnoord | she can code |
11:47.51 | captnoord | :D |
11:47.53 | captnoord | whooooo |
11:48.02 | Marajin | yeah though she doesn't like coding really |
11:48.08 | Marajin | but she's keen on gadgets and stuff |
11:48.24 | captnoord | http://deja.jails.nl/Data/Shared/Pictures/Moodlight/IMGP0208.JPG |
11:48.28 | captnoord | my everlasting |
11:48.31 | captnoord | moodlight project |
11:48.44 | captnoord | 435 Mhz remote controlled |
11:48.49 | captnoord | with a usb dongle |
11:48.54 | captnoord | + software |
11:49.00 | Marajin | haha, that just looks /wrong/ till the whole image loads |
11:49.24 | captnoord | so I can do the entire "phillips embilight" thingy |
11:49.25 | captnoord | :D |
11:49.31 | Marajin | I was like '...dude, why are you showing me a pic of a lightup sex toy' at first :P |
11:49.37 | captnoord | lol |
11:49.38 | captnoord | nope |
11:49.54 | captnoord | you wish |
11:49.55 | captnoord | :P |
11:50.03 | Marajin | I don't have to wish :p |
11:50.14 | captnoord | you have one? |
11:50.15 | captnoord | lol |
11:50.16 | captnoord | hehehehehe |
11:50.24 | Marajin | nah, not glowing anyway |
11:50.31 | captnoord | hehe |
11:50.53 | Marajin | but she's pretty... open minded about things |
11:50.55 | Marajin | experimental |
11:51.05 | captnoord | mine isn't |
11:51.13 | captnoord | she is a "I play it always safe" person |
11:51.14 | captnoord | but |
11:51.23 | captnoord | when she is in her "zone" |
11:51.32 | Marajin | well ironically in all other aspects of life mine plays it safe |
11:51.35 | Marajin | pretty timid character |
11:51.43 | Marajin | but in that one area she'll try anything |
11:51.58 | captnoord | opposites attract |
11:52.07 | Marajin | heh |
11:52.13 | Marajin | yeah I'm not a timid character :P |
11:52.13 | captnoord | I love it the way she trusts me totaly |
11:52.16 | captnoord | :P |
11:52.26 | Marajin | yeah that's always a nice feeling |
11:52.28 | captnoord | she always gets lost when she is in a new city |
11:52.33 | captnoord | and i'm like |
11:52.38 | captnoord | hmmmm I think this direction |
11:52.46 | captnoord | 9 out of 10 correct |
11:52.57 | Marajin | heh, I'm like '..**whips out HTC and opens satnav app**' |
11:53.07 | captnoord | hehe |
11:53.32 | captnoord | nope I can do it entirely on feeling of direction |
11:53.50 | Marajin | I don't travel much really. I can usually navigate by signs if I have to though |
11:54.09 | captnoord | last year we went to portugal |
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11:54.14 | Synth3t1c | hey all |
11:54.18 | Synth3t1c | anyone home? |
11:54.23 | Marajin | nope |
11:54.26 | Synth3t1c | :( lol |
11:54.26 | captnoord | and I finaly got to meet a good friend of mine I know for a long time on the internet |
11:54.32 | captnoord | and at first |
11:54.34 | Marajin | we're all on mars having an astronaut geek party! |
11:54.35 | captnoord | she didn't liked it |
11:54.39 | Marajin | who knew, 3G reception on mars |
11:54.43 | Synth3t1c | lol |
11:54.45 | captnoord | and when she finaly got to meet him |
11:54.55 | captnoord | it was ok |
11:54.56 | captnoord | :P |
11:54.59 | Marajin | yeah |
11:55.12 | Marajin | mine's just like hiding behind me cause she's timid about stuff |
11:55.13 | Synth3t1c | if one had to guess, whats the ETA for android on mah sprint touch pro ?? |
11:55.17 | Marajin | but she loves meeting people from my life |
11:55.20 | captnoord | now she is like scared to go somewhere because there is a posibility that I know people which I want to meet |
11:55.31 | Marajin | Synth3t1c: how long is a piece of string |
11:55.31 | captnoord | Synth3t1c: you know how to code? |
11:55.36 | captnoord | lol |
11:55.40 | Marajin | as in, we don't really know it's not predictable |
11:55.41 | Synth3t1c | lol yes actually |
11:55.46 | Synth3t1c | okay |
11:55.55 | Synth3t1c | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelLinux - i check that like every day :( |
11:56.08 | Marajin | heh :p |
11:56.08 | captnoord | if you know how to code |
11:56.11 | captnoord | and have time |
11:56.15 | captnoord | you can do something about it |
11:56.21 | captnoord | and don't go waiting |
11:56.22 | Marajin | hang around the IRC room, you find out about things sooner |
11:56.24 | Synth3t1c | wont i have to give up my phone? |
11:56.30 | captnoord | nope |
11:56.31 | captnoord | you don't |
11:56.33 | Marajin | er why would you have to give up your phone? |
11:56.35 | Synth3t1c | how do you mean? |
11:56.38 | Marajin | it doesn't wipe out windows mobile or anything |
11:56.42 | Synth3t1c | like i thought id have to test things out and stuff |
11:56.51 | Marajin | you just soft reset and bang, back to WM |
11:56.53 | captnoord | and if you softreset it it will boot windows |
11:57.05 | captnoord | Marajin: seems great minds think alike lolz |
11:57.07 | Synth3t1c | can i switch between android and WM on the fly? |
11:57.13 | Marajin | Synth3t1c: pretty much |
11:57.24 | Synth3t1c | i.e., do i need to be at my computer to boot android? |
11:57.25 | Marajin | we boot android from within WM and then soft reset to get back to WM |
11:57.26 | captnoord | I do |
11:57.29 | Marajin | no |
11:57.30 | Synth3t1c | or is it like dual boot |
11:57.35 | captnoord | nope |
11:57.36 | captnoord | its like |
11:57.47 | captnoord | loading the linux in your mobile mem |
11:57.51 | captnoord | unloading WM |
11:57.52 | Marajin | what we do is load the initrd and linux kernel into memory and then kick the WM kernel out and linux/android boots |
11:57.57 | captnoord | and make it boot linux |
11:58.13 | Synth3t1c | is there a project tracker that i can choose one problem to tackle? |
11:58.20 | Marajin | er not that I know of |
11:58.21 | captnoord | wiki |
11:58.29 | Marajin | we tend to organize stuff through IRC or wiki yeah |
11:58.56 | captnoord | problem with trackers is that it takes up loads of time coders want to spend on coding |
11:58.57 | Synth3t1c | cool |
11:59.22 | Synth3t1c | i disagree |
11:59.25 | Marajin | anyway, you are at low risk of damaging your phone and you won't lose your WM data and stuff |
11:59.27 | Synth3t1c | but whatever ;) |
11:59.28 | Marajin | so |
11:59.40 | Synth3t1c | just follow the instructions on the page i linked/ |
11:59.41 | Synth3t1c | ? |
11:59.42 | captnoord | the worst what can happen |
11:59.44 | Marajin | you don't even need to partition your SD card |
11:59.53 | captnoord | is that you need to hardreset your phone |
12:00.00 | captnoord | so I make a PIM backup |
12:00.01 | Synth3t1c | like cooking a rom |
12:00.10 | captnoord | everytime I do some stuff |
12:00.14 | Synth3t1c | all my important stuff is on exchange server |
12:00.18 | Marajin | yeah |
12:00.22 | captnoord | then |
12:00.26 | captnoord | almost nothing can go wrong |
12:00.27 | Marajin | but you'd lose SMS and call logs and stuff |
12:00.31 | Synth3t1c | meh |
12:00.37 | Synth3t1c | big deal |
12:00.45 | Marajin | yeah exactly |
12:00.48 | Synth3t1c | once i send an sms im through with it 98% of the time |
12:01.02 | Marajin | but you can save them anyway by running pimbackup |
12:01.10 | Synth3t1c | if i cared lol |
12:01.12 | Marajin | yeah |
12:01.29 | Marajin | I don't bother deleting SMSes though |
12:01.29 | Marajin | ever |
12:01.30 | Marajin | heh |
12:01.51 | Marajin | my kaiser already has enough memory to keep them forever and the X1 will have far more I guess |
12:02.17 | Marajin | so the only time I lose SMSes is pretty much cause I hardreset/flashed a new WM rom |
12:02.38 | Synth3t1c | lol |
12:02.47 | lupine_85 | Marajin, I did that |
12:02.52 | lupine_85 | now someone has all my old texts :S |
12:03.16 | lupine_85 | I reckon for my next phone I'll pop them into a Maildir every week and delete the old ones |
12:04.34 | Marajin | haha lupine_85 |
12:04.41 | lupine_85 | not funny :p |
12:04.45 | Marajin | I still have my hermes and kaiser so I don't lose my texts |
12:04.52 | Marajin | if I was ever selling one I'd hardreset it |
12:04.54 | lupine_85 | bleedin' glaswegians ;) |
12:05.00 | Marajin | hah :P |
12:05.02 | lupine_85 | yeah, I lost mine on the train |
12:05.08 | Marajin | glaswegians are great! |
12:05.13 | Marajin | that's why I lived in perth -.- |
12:05.18 | captnoord | great phone to loose on a train |
12:05.18 | captnoord | :P |
12:05.24 | captnoord | you made someone very happy |
12:05.28 | lupine_85 | I doubt it |
12:05.34 | lupine_85 | IMEI blocked so now the radio on it is useless |
12:05.43 | captnoord | hehe |
12:05.53 | lupine_85 | makes an OK PDA, I guess |
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12:06.02 | lupine_85 | if only I'd had insurance :p |
12:06.05 | captnoord | my girl is like "why do you want to change your phone" |
12:06.08 | Marajin | which one'd you lose? |
12:06.26 | lupine_85 | raphael |
12:06.34 | Marajin | ouch |
12:06.43 | lupine_85 | I only paid £100 for it |
12:06.52 | lupine_85 | 'tis just.... annoying |
12:07.13 | Marajin | how'd you get a raph for 100 quid? |
12:07.23 | lupine_85 | 18 month contract with voda |
12:07.30 | captnoord | lol |
12:07.32 | Marajin | mate that means you didn't pay 100 for it ;) |
12:07.33 | captnoord | I didn't payed for it |
12:07.53 | Marajin | lupine_85: I made O2 give me 15/month off my entire 18 month contract before I got the X1 :P |
12:07.53 | lupine_85 | mm, I'm on a £25/mo contract as well |
12:08.08 | lupine_85 | mmm |
12:08.12 | lupine_85 | I don't really like the X1 |
12:08.16 | captnoord | 32 euro's p/m |
12:08.29 | Marajin | lupine_85: yeah but I couldn't get that deal on the raph |
12:08.40 | lupine_85 | I'm going to be a nokia fellow these days :/ |
12:08.40 | captnoord | hmmm designing a stupid board for my brother:( |
12:08.46 | captnoord | nightrider light |
12:08.46 | captnoord | :P |
12:08.55 | Marajin | captnoord: Knightrider |
12:09.02 | Marajin | besides, it's a cylon light |
12:09.08 | lupine_85 | has been very tempted to stick a cellular radio in his server so he can get all his texts in a central place |
12:09.27 | lupine_85 | not entirely certain what to do with calls if I do that, though |
12:09.39 | Marajin | forward/voicemail them all |
12:09.49 | lupine_85 | well, yeah |
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12:10.33 | captnoord | Marajin: yup cylon |
12:10.48 | Marajin | cylons came first, same guy made the knight rider light I think |
12:11.18 | Marajin | the X1 will be nice for media I guess, the kaiser's always been crap for that |
12:11.28 | captnoord | I just love eagle |
12:11.37 | captnoord | make designing it so much faster than those other prog's |
12:11.48 | Marajin | hmm damn I have to go to the bathroom, I bet the parcel guy comes just as I go in there >.< they always do |
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12:14.42 | captnoord | O damn |
12:14.50 | captnoord | the guy who designed this board sucked bigtime |
12:14.56 | captnoord | i'm rerouting one |
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12:24.40 | Synth3t1c | sorry about leaving |
12:24.49 | Synth3t1c | some dude was pissing out side of my apartment |
12:24.54 | Synth3t1c | then denied it |
12:24.59 | Synth3t1c | "its water" |
12:25.03 | Synth3t1c | wheres the water bottle? |
12:25.04 | Synth3t1c | "uhhh" |
12:25.13 | Synth3t1c | i watched him do it through the peephole |
12:25.17 | Synth3t1c | i looked after i heard |
12:25.33 | Synth3t1c | "dude, i needa pee too but i can wait dude..." |
12:25.42 | Synth3t1c | idiot neighbor and her idiot friends |
12:25.52 | Marajin | Synth3t1c: I'd have walked out with a screwdriver in my hand and gone 'WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!' just to see him run down the street with his dick out |
12:25.57 | Synth3t1c | lmao |
12:26.09 | Synth3t1c | i opened the door and he turned and zipped up |
12:26.15 | Synth3t1c | turned dark red |
12:26.28 | Marajin | well I'm 260lbs, I can get people to run :p |
12:27.45 | Synth3t1c | im ~190 |
12:28.00 | Synth3t1c | but i was hoping for it to escalate |
12:28.03 | captnoord | i'm 73 kg and have a titanium pin in my right leg |
12:28.04 | Synth3t1c | i was yelling at him |
12:28.16 | Synth3t1c | 73kg? whats that in american? LMAO jk |
12:28.26 | captnoord | i'm dutch |
12:28.27 | lupine_85 | 7,300g |
12:28.34 | lupine_85 | no |
12:28.36 | Synth3t1c | i was hoping he would punch me or something so i could tear him apart |
12:28.37 | lupine_85 | 73,000g :D |
12:28.40 | Marajin | 160 lbs |
12:28.42 | Synth3t1c | pwned |
12:28.44 | Marajin | 73kg is 160lbs |
12:28.58 | captnoord | I used to be 80 |
12:29.06 | captnoord | I lost 7 kg because of my leg |
12:29.07 | captnoord | :P |
12:29.08 | Marajin | I'm 118kg ;) |
12:29.10 | lupine_85 | 160.79 ;) |
12:29.14 | captnoord | damn |
12:29.16 | Synth3t1c | who needs legs anyway, rite? |
12:29.21 | captnoord | GET YOURSELFS in shape |
12:29.22 | captnoord | :P |
12:29.23 | captnoord | lol |
12:29.28 | captnoord | woeps |
12:29.28 | Marajin | I AM in shape, that's the problem ;) |
12:29.32 | captnoord | your already in shape |
12:29.33 | captnoord | lol |
12:29.36 | captnoord | you stole my joke |
12:29.38 | captnoord | ::P |
12:29.39 | captnoord | brb |
12:29.42 | Synth3t1c | kk |
12:29.45 | Marajin | that's why I can get people to run :p |
12:30.11 | Synth3t1c | i could take you |
12:30.30 | Synth3t1c | black belt + was a varsity wrestler in highschool :D |
12:30.31 | Marajin | of course my weight is a bit bizarre, cause I don't look like I'm 118kg/260lbs, People guess me at like 90kg |
12:30.45 | Marajin | yeah well I don't have a lot of martial training, but most people don't risk it ;) |
12:30.49 | Synth3t1c | lmao |
12:31.22 | Marajin | the average idiot has no training either, and they're usually a lot smaller so |
12:31.25 | Marajin | they just run |
12:31.49 | Synth3t1c | hah |
12:31.53 | Synth3t1c | true |
12:31.58 | Synth3t1c | well i live in new orleans |
12:32.04 | Synth3t1c | most people here are full of themselves |
12:32.07 | Marajin | yeah |
12:32.12 | Synth3t1c | so they stay |
12:32.16 | Synth3t1c | and i get to smash their face in |
12:32.22 | Marajin | hmm a coupla people have stayed |
12:32.32 | Marajin | right up to the point where I've turned them into organic surface to air missiles |
12:32.48 | Synth3t1c | dude i live on the 3rd floor, itd be awesome if i threw him down the stairs or straight off thebalcony lol |
12:32.54 | Synth3t1c | lmao |
12:32.56 | Marajin | yeah :p |
12:33.54 | Synth3t1c | dude, he was outside my neighbors apartment |
12:33.54 | Synth3t1c | how badly did he need to pee!? |
12:33.55 | Synth3t1c | thats just nuts |
12:33.55 | Marajin | well sometimes there are just fucking idiots |
12:34.00 | Marajin | A guy once started at me who was about 5'2 and built to his height :P |
12:34.12 | Marajin | He could have headbutted me! in the chest.. |
12:34.20 | Marajin | I picked him up and placed him in a trash can |
12:34.21 | Synth3t1c | hah |
12:34.24 | Synth3t1c | lmao! |
12:34.45 | Marajin | I wouldn't care but the idiot walked into me, it wasn't like it was my fault |
12:34.55 | Synth3t1c | he walked into you? |
12:35.00 | Synth3t1c | you have a short fuse |
12:35.04 | Marajin | yeah, busy sidewalk |
12:35.13 | Synth3t1c | he walked into you on a busy sidewalk |
12:35.17 | Marajin | no he had a short fuse, he walked into me and started screaming abuse and being agreesive |
12:35.20 | Marajin | *agressive |
12:35.29 | Synth3t1c | oh |
12:35.32 | Marajin | so after about 30 seconds I just got fed up and put him in the trash |
12:35.42 | Synth3t1c | bet he shut up after that |
12:35.55 | Marajin | kinda had to, there were like 50 people stood around to laugh at him |
12:36.35 | Marajin | I used to have a short fuse in like, highschool |
12:36.38 | Marajin | but I got over it |
12:36.45 | Synth3t1c | same here |
12:36.50 | Marajin | I'd rather not bother nowadays but some people just push the issue |
12:37.17 | Marajin | then again I was like 140lbs from being 11 to about 17 |
12:37.46 | Marajin | then genetics went 'ello!' and I went from 140lbs to 190 in a coupla months and a coupla years later hit 260 |
12:37.48 | Synth3t1c | i was a fatty, but still a blackbelt and stuff so whatever |
12:37.51 | Synth3t1c | hell, im still a fatty |
12:37.54 | Synth3t1c | lol |
12:38.15 | Marajin | I was always pretty strong. I carried a 60lbs bag my entire school life |
12:38.26 | Marajin | constantly lifting 60lbs will give you some decent arms and shoulders |
12:38.43 | Synth3t1c | holy crap - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445525 |
12:39.10 | Marajin | er dude, isn't it arm 11 |
12:40.05 | Marajin | the MSM 7xxxx chipsets are all arm11 so they're v6 |
12:40.22 | Marajin | oh I misread |
12:40.25 | Marajin | hmm |
12:40.45 | Marajin | wtf do ubuntu expect to run stuff on if they're aiming for arm v7 |
12:41.10 | Synth3t1c | touch pro dood |
12:41.17 | Marajin | the touch pro is v6 |
12:41.25 | Marajin | arm11 == ARMv6 |
12:41.38 | Marajin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture |
12:41.44 | Marajin | only the 'cortex' stuff is V7 |
12:41.47 | Synth3t1c | oh |
12:41.49 | Marajin | i.e. basically the beagle board |
12:41.49 | Synth3t1c | pwned |
12:42.07 | Synth3t1c | i just want android damnit |
12:42.12 | theCroc | new netbooks |
12:42.27 | theCroc | there has been some talk of ARMv7 netbooks coming soon |
12:42.29 | Synth3t1c | my friend has a G1 and touch pro is 999 times better than G1 but WM sucks :( |
12:42.49 | Marajin | yeah the g1 is ugly |
12:42.54 | Marajin | and lower screen res |
12:43.10 | Synth3t1c | thats what im saying |
12:43.16 | Synth3t1c | thats why this needs to be done STAT |
12:43.17 | Marajin | we'll get android working right on the TP soon enough |
12:43.22 | Marajin | it already boots |
12:43.38 | theCroc | It runs fine on my iamond |
12:43.48 | theCroc | just need that sound driver to work |
12:43.52 | theCroc | and 3g |
12:43.55 | theCroc | and wifi:P |
12:43.59 | Marajin | theCroc: meh, what's the point of going ARM on a netbook? I mean sure battery life would leap but compatability issues and stuff |
12:44.13 | Marajin | besides netbooks are already able to do 6+ hours |
12:44.34 | Synth3t1c | lol Croc |
12:44.36 | Synth3t1c | so no sound |
12:44.40 | Synth3t1c | no 3g |
12:44.41 | Synth3t1c | no wifi |
12:44.44 | theCroc | Marajin: I believe the power is one of the main things. Compatibility wont be an issue for open source stuff really |
12:44.50 | Synth3t1c | what good is it then? |
12:45.03 | Synth3t1c | everything works but phone functions and internet |
12:45.10 | theCroc | yeah I know |
12:45.34 | theCroc | but atleast it runs smoothly and is stable |
12:45.37 | Synth3t1c | i NEED android :( |
12:45.38 | Marajin | theCroc: It does tie you to linux OS and such though, that's... debateable on such things |
12:45.44 | theCroc | that means the hardest part is done |
12:45.54 | Marajin | on phones it's great |
12:45.57 | Marajin | on a netbook...eeehmaybe |
12:46.03 | theCroc | I hear you |
12:46.04 | Marajin | depends on the person |
12:46.07 | Synth3t1c | wait, linux? |
12:46.13 | Synth3t1c | linux on a desktop is greatg |
12:46.14 | theCroc | but then I'm a linux user on most of my platforms |
12:46.35 | theCroc | I never see compatibility as an issue |
12:46.42 | Marajin | I use it on my kaiser and on my server.. I got fed up of using it on the desktop for anything more than IMs and internet browsing and some office work |
12:46.45 | Marajin | see I'm a gamer |
12:46.48 | Synth3t1c | i cant get wifi to work on my laptop in ubuntu :( |
12:46.48 | theCroc | I have yet to encounter a common file format I couldn't open |
12:46.58 | Synth3t1c | marajin - dual boot then |
12:47.01 | Synth3t1c | OR |
12:47.05 | Synth3t1c | wine |
12:47.06 | Synth3t1c | OR |
12:47.08 | Synth3t1c | cedega |
12:47.09 | Marajin | waste of disk space, I don't NEED it on my desktop |
12:47.13 | theCroc | well I have win xp on my mediabox |
12:47.23 | theCroc | as it doubles as a gaming machine |
12:47.28 | Synth3t1c | http://www.transgaming.com/ |
12:47.32 | Marajin | and wine is like pissing in the sea heh |
12:47.44 | theCroc | well some things are nice in wine |
12:47.46 | Synth3t1c | err |
12:47.49 | Synth3t1c | http://www.cedega.com/ |
12:47.51 | theCroc | spotify runs without a hitc |
12:47.54 | Marajin | it fixes some stuff but not everything |
12:48.09 | theCroc | (They even officialy support wine) |
12:48.33 | Marajin | what? ooh, 40 games certified! Mate I had several hundred |
12:48.36 | Synth3t1c | spotify? |
12:48.41 | Synth3t1c | like what |
12:48.43 | Marajin | *have |
12:48.44 | Synth3t1c | bejewelled? |
12:48.48 | Synth3t1c | lemmings? |
12:48.55 | theCroc | I find that separating my computers int work (My laptop running linux) and Play (My media box running XP) |
12:49.00 | theCroc | simplifies things |
12:49.29 | theCroc | Spotify = Free musicstreaming |
12:49.31 | theCroc | legaly |
12:49.37 | Synth3t1c | thats oficial support Marajin |
12:49.40 | Synth3t1c | *official |
12:49.44 | Synth3t1c | there ARE other games |
12:49.51 | Marajin | I don't care, I know a bunch of my games plain won't run |
12:49.51 | theCroc | and its not like Last.fm or pandora where you cant choose the track |
12:50.01 | Marajin | it's not like it matters mate, I run linux where it's best |
12:50.03 | Synth3t1c | http://www.cedega.com/gamesdb/ |
12:50.04 | Marajin | I run windows where it's best |
12:50.07 | Marajin | and that's how things should be |
12:50.14 | theCroc | of course |
12:50.23 | theCroc | thats always best |
12:50.23 | Synth3t1c | i guess |
12:50.35 | Marajin | ya know my linux server does a lot more than just apache and postfix :p |
12:50.42 | theCroc | but if we return to the subject: You wont be running those games on your ARM netbook |
12:50.47 | Marajin | email, IMs, internet browsing, etc are all run via it too |
12:50.51 | theCroc | so compatibnility is again a non issue |
12:50.52 | Marajin | hah |
12:51.00 | Marajin | theCroc: My netbook can game! |
12:51.09 | Synth3t1c | what game Marajin |
12:51.22 | Marajin | um anything up to the sims 2 level of demand work ok on it |
12:51.40 | Synth3t1c | lol sims 2 |
12:51.40 | theCroc | I guess to each their own |
12:51.51 | theCroc | I like a little more monitor size when I game |
12:52.00 | theCroc | 7-9" don't seem that apealing |
12:52.06 | Marajin | I'm just picking an example of graphical horsepower that's commonly recognized |
12:52.07 | Synth3t1c | dude i could make so much fun of you right now :O |
12:52.16 | Marajin | you could try ;) |
12:52.22 | Synth3t1c | sims 2 is like virtual life |
12:52.31 | Synth3t1c | youre too geeky and nerdy to have a real fulfilling life |
12:52.38 | Synth3t1c | so you have to play virtual life instead |
12:52.43 | Synth3t1c | BAM |
12:52.49 | theCroc | It's like Second life only sadder |
12:52.51 | Marajin | says the man in the htc-linux irc room? :P |
12:53.28 | theCroc | point taken:P |
12:53.28 | Synth3t1c | i am up to study for a cell bio test |
12:53.31 | theCroc | but seriously |
12:53.44 | Synth3t1c | i just happened to check out the site today and notice this irc |
12:53.47 | Synth3t1c | so i joined |
12:53.47 | theCroc | sims is the kind of thing my sister used to ask me to help her install |
12:53.55 | Marajin | I never said I play it, I just said it CAN play it ;) |
12:53.59 | Synth3t1c | theCroc: same here |
12:54.05 | Synth3t1c | now hes back tracking |
12:54.07 | Marajin | mostly I play old DOS games and emulated roms on my netbook |
12:54.17 | Synth3t1c | DOTT anyone? |
12:54.20 | theCroc | and linux cant do that? |
12:54.24 | Synth3t1c | it can |
12:54.31 | Marajin | Synth3t1c: ever done scummvm on your HTC? :> |
12:54.32 | theCroc | either way |
12:54.33 | Synth3t1c | hes just trying to shit on loonix for home use |
12:54.37 | theCroc | your's is a special use case |
12:54.39 | Synth3t1c | wikki whaa? |
12:54.46 | Marajin | yeah linux CAN play older games |
12:54.51 | Synth3t1c | scummvm on my phone? |
12:54.58 | Marajin | Synth3t1c: ScummVM, it lets you play stuff like DOTT on your phone yeah |
12:55.08 | Synth3t1c | ive used scummvm on my pc before |
12:55.10 | Marajin | there's a windows mobile/embedded linux version |
12:55.17 | Synth3t1c | holy crap lmao |
12:55.21 | Synth3t1c | i HAVE TO HAVE THAT |
12:55.21 | Marajin | it's awesome |
12:55.26 | Marajin | it's really really awesome |
12:55.29 | Synth3t1c | what are some other good dos games? |
12:55.43 | theCroc | well there are the way old classics |
12:55.48 | theCroc | Commander Keen 4 |
12:55.50 | Marajin | it'll play the discworld and kyrandia games too.. monkey island? stuff like that. |
12:55.54 | Marajin | haha |
12:55.56 | Marajin | I remember commander keen |
12:56.06 | Marajin | I loved that game as a kid |
12:56.11 | theCroc | It was on my first PC computer |
12:56.11 | Synth3t1c | wolfenstein 3d was badass |
12:56.14 | theCroc | and old 386 |
12:56.19 | theCroc | yeah loved that game |
12:56.30 | Synth3t1c | im jewish so i could identify with it LMAO |
12:56.37 | Marajin | hah :p |
12:56.50 | Marajin | anyone can identify with shooting the shit outta nazis |
12:56.53 | Marajin | 'cept germans |
12:57.03 | Marajin | they get sulky and try to put you in jail |
12:57.08 | theCroc | hehe |
12:57.20 | einand | wolfenstein 3d, Doom2, Duke Nukem 3d och Quake1 är de revolutionernande spelen |
12:57.26 | theCroc | well the Nazis are the stereotypical movie enemy |
12:57.26 | Marajin | they do! they made Return to Castle Wolfenstein remove all nazi refences |
12:57.32 | theCroc | onedimensional and just plain evil |
12:57.37 | Marajin | it became a game about cultists instead |
12:57.40 | Marajin | and blood can't be red |
12:57.57 | Synth3t1c | i never played that |
12:58.02 | Synth3t1c | they removed the nazi stuff?! |
12:58.03 | Marajin | I love the germans but sometimes I'm like 'dudes, get over it, nobody else cares anymore' |
12:58.27 | theCroc | Some of them are still alive |
12:58.32 | Marajin | so? |
12:58.38 | Marajin | the pope was a hitler youth |
12:58.42 | theCroc | it's going to take atleast another generation before they start getting over it |
12:59.06 | theCroc | besides the world wont stop talking about it so it's a bit hard for them to forget |
12:59.22 | Marajin | I don't want them to forget, I want them to accept that it's not a big deal in modern culture |
12:59.39 | Marajin | you don't have to be mortally afraid of the hitler salute or a swastika |
12:59.51 | Marajin | I think most younger germans really don't care but it's the government/laws that do |
12:59.57 | theCroc | well then you have Israel going B-b-b-b-b-but Holocaust! Every time someone criticises them |
12:59.59 | Synth3t1c | einand: varför dont du tala engelsk? |
13:00.13 | Synth3t1c | theCroc: lol theyve never done that |
13:00.15 | Synth3t1c | and on top of that |
13:00.33 | Synth3t1c | they were one of the few countries who denied monetary settlement from germany post world war 2 |
13:00.48 | theCroc | well ok not Israel themselves |
13:00.53 | einand | Synth3t1c: sorry i dident see at first this was an english channe, (i was speaking about the same topic in another channel) |
13:00.59 | theCroc | but theis apologists have a tendency to do it |
13:01.01 | Marajin | na, warum nicht, englisch sind ein doof sprachen! :p or something, been years since I had to speak german |
13:01.25 | einand | was writing in swedish ;) |
13:01.28 | Synth3t1c | theCroc: evidence plz? |
13:01.34 | Marajin | I guessed it wasn't german yeah |
13:01.36 | Synth3t1c | einand: äsch den er göra sval |
13:01.36 | theCroc | either way germany will come around soon enough |
13:01.43 | theCroc | just give them another half century |
13:01.55 | Marajin | but I dunno swedish, English, French, German and Mandarin |
13:02.01 | theCroc | I don't want to get into an israel discussion here |
13:02.08 | Synth3t1c | okay lol |
13:02.09 | Marajin | er *dunno Swedish. English |
13:02.13 | Synth3t1c | you brought it up |
13:02.13 | Marajin | that . is important :P |
13:02.20 | einand | Marajin: så jo known about swahili ;) |
13:02.21 | theCroc | I shouldn't have mentioned it at all |
13:02.41 | einand | so ju do |
13:02.43 | einand | i menat |
13:02.47 | Marajin | more of an idea about gujarti to be honest ;) |
13:03.35 | Synth3t1c | einand: är din engelsk verkligen dålig eller er du rättvis leker? |
13:03.53 | theCroc | Så vem här inne pratar svenska på riktigt? |
13:04.44 | Marajin | it's pretty fun how much of other languages to you half read if you know a coupla european languages |
13:04.47 | Synth3t1c | theCroc: din moder |
13:05.02 | Marajin | if you know french and german you understand about half of the languages spoke throughout most of europe |
13:06.05 | theCroc | :P |
13:06.45 | Synth3t1c | anyone ready for SWGEmu to be finished? |
13:06.59 | Synth3t1c | another few weeks and its done |
13:07.01 | Synth3t1c | :D |
13:07.31 | captnoord | starwars emu? |
13:07.45 | Synth3t1c | remember star wars galaxies? |
13:07.47 | Synth3t1c | the MMO? |
13:07.47 | captnoord | I tought that mmo emu's are hard to actualy finish |
13:08.03 | Synth3t1c | they have a few things to finish |
13:08.07 | Synth3t1c | mission terminals |
13:08.12 | Synth3t1c | buildings |
13:08.20 | Synth3t1c | and auction system |
13:08.21 | captnoord | is it stable |
13:08.27 | captnoord | how many players can it handle? |
13:08.28 | Synth3t1c | yes |
13:08.33 | captnoord | how stable is it |
13:08.34 | captnoord | as in |
13:08.40 | captnoord | hours / player count |
13:08.54 | captnoord | I mean |
13:08.54 | Synth3t1c | no clue, they have been resetting the server a lot making various updates |
13:08.58 | captnoord | can it handle 1000 players |
13:09.03 | captnoord | 24 / 7 |
13:09.14 | captnoord | k |
13:09.16 | Synth3t1c | theres about 50-200 people on at any giventime right now |
13:09.26 | captnoord | k |
13:09.27 | Synth3t1c | but thats only because theres no real game as of yet |
13:09.38 | Synth3t1c | just an npc giving you any item you want |
13:09.40 | Synth3t1c | and dualing |
13:09.43 | captnoord | lol |
13:09.45 | captnoord | then |
13:09.45 | Synth3t1c | its a glorified chatroom as of now |
13:09.49 | captnoord | its far from finished |
13:10.06 | Synth3t1c | missions, auctions, and player buildings are all thats left |
13:10.13 | Synth3t1c | there are enemies you can go fight |
13:10.15 | Synth3t1c | but whats the point |
13:10.30 | captnoord | 14:06Synth3t1canyone ready for SWGEmu to be finished? 14:06Synth3t1canother few weeks and its done |
13:10.31 | captnoord | i'm like |
13:10.32 | captnoord | nope |
13:10.37 | captnoord | I give it like 5 months |
13:10.38 | captnoord | or so |
13:10.41 | Synth3t1c | nope |
13:10.42 | captnoord | maybe then |
13:10.46 | captnoord | we will see |
13:10.58 | Synth3t1c | dude buildings should be done already, or by the end of the week |
13:11.05 | Synth3t1c | by saturday id say |
13:11.18 | Synth3t1c | npcs are already walking around and shit |
13:11.34 | Synth3t1c | there are guards |
13:11.50 | Synth3t1c | etc... |
13:12.10 | Synth3t1c | what would take 5 mos? |
13:12.28 | captnoord | you will see dude |
13:14.22 | Synth3t1c | lol |
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13:23.27 | exco | what's the opposite command of "addlist" in haret? |
13:27.04 | Synth3t1c | someone learn me how to install android on my raphael |
13:27.09 | Synth3t1c | its sprint |
13:27.36 | Synth3t1c | edit: fuck i dont use linux :( |
13:29.23 | theCroc | on the android you just unpack it to the root of your internal memory and run haret.exe |
13:29.28 | captnoord | exco: clearlist? |
13:29.43 | theCroc | the raphael is pretty similar from what I understand |
13:29.54 | theCroc | on the diamond I mean:P |
13:30.04 | Marajin | except you use the SD card yeah |
13:30.10 | Synth3t1c | the instructions say i need osx or linux |
13:30.30 | Marajin | what for? partitioning? |
13:30.36 | Marajin | or usbnet maybe/ |
13:31.41 | Synth3t1c | dno |
13:33.53 | theCroc | Synth3t1c: http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=58&task=view.download&cid=24 |
13:34.01 | theCroc | just follow those instructions |
13:34.16 | Synth3t1c | oh snap |
13:34.18 | Synth3t1c | thanks |
13:34.19 | Synth3t1c | :D |
13:34.44 | theCroc | just remember to do the soft reset |
13:34.54 | theCroc | I don't know why it matters but it does |
13:35.05 | theCroc | otherwise android freezes mid bood |
13:35.12 | theCroc | mid-boot |
13:35.33 | Synth3t1c | weird |
13:35.53 | theCroc | you'll find it still pretty useless though |
13:35.55 | theCroc | as I said |
13:35.57 | theCroc | no sound |
13:36.02 | theCroc | no microphone |
13:36.08 | theCroc | and no dataconnection |
13:36.11 | exco | captnoord: clearlist |
13:36.12 | exco | Unknown keyword: `clearlist' |
13:36.19 | theCroc | basicaly only SMS works as it should |
13:38.21 | Synth3t1c | theCroc: im just gonna fuck around with it, no biggie |
13:38.32 | theCroc | thats what I do |
13:38.37 | theCroc | try to see what works |
13:38.48 | theCroc | hopefully I will be able to use it a s a dev phone soon |
13:39.08 | theCroc | to test apps I make |
13:40.47 | Synth3t1c | so how do i get started with helping to write code for it? |
13:41.46 | theCroc | http://developer.android.com/ |
13:41.58 | Synth3t1c | no i mean to port it to raphael |
13:41.59 | theCroc | get the sdk and eclipse |
13:42.01 | theCroc | oh |
13:42.08 | theCroc | that I have no ide:P |
13:42.19 | theCroc | I'm not involved in that at all |
13:42.47 | theCroc | Oh and one more important thing! |
13:42.53 | theCroc | Disable your pin! |
13:43.15 | theCroc | android will ask for it but wont accept the one you give |
13:43.33 | theCroc | so just disable it in winmo to avoid that problem |
13:43.49 | exco | Synth3t1c: setup a development environment and start porting |
13:44.05 | Synth3t1c | my pin? |
13:44.17 | theCroc | well if you have one |
13:44.25 | exco | Synth3t1c: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BuildTheRaphaelKernel |
13:44.26 | Synth3t1c | i dont know what that is :O |
13:44.57 | theCroc | some operators give you a 4 digit code to access the sim-card every time the phone boots |
13:45.12 | Synth3t1c | no sim card |
13:45.13 | Synth3t1c | im sprint |
13:45.15 | theCroc | oh |
13:45.20 | theCroc | you have one of those operators |
13:45.23 | theCroc | then I dont know |
13:45.29 | theCroc | try it |
13:45.50 | Synth3t1c | soft resetting now |
13:45.50 | theCroc | dont know if android will complain about the lack of a sim card |
13:45.55 | Synth3t1c | i forgot to d/c the usb cable |
13:46.11 | theCroc | that wont be a problem |
13:46.32 | theCroc | just as long as you dont boot it with the cable connected still |
13:46.34 | theCroc | or something |
13:48.08 | theCroc | Inot sure about thesignificance of that |
13:48.24 | theCroc | but if the linux-boot fails just soft reset and try again |
13:49.22 | Synth3t1c | booting now |
13:49.48 | Synth3t1c | it cannot find a whole bunch of shit |
13:49.50 | Synth3t1c | is that normal? |
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13:50.35 | theCroc | hm |
13:50.55 | Synth3t1c | the console curser is just sitting and blinking |
13:51.12 | Synth3t1c | and there is about 10 lines of cannot find /system/bin/blablabla |
13:51.18 | theCroc | does the tmp folder contain a tmp folder? |
13:51.25 | Synth3t1c | no? |
13:51.26 | theCroc | that happened to me the first time I tried it |
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13:51.31 | theCroc | ok |
13:51.32 | theCroc | hm |
13:51.35 | Synth3t1c | and |
13:52.00 | theCroc | well if it does then you need to move That tmp folder to the root of the mem card |
13:52.08 | Synth3t1c | it is in the root |
13:52.17 | theCroc | ok |
13:52.23 | Synth3t1c | i launched tmp/boot/haret18 |
13:52.25 | Synth3t1c | or something |
13:52.26 | theCroc | do a soft reset and try again |
13:52.35 | theCroc | yeah that sounds about right |
13:52.48 | Synth3t1c | soft resetting |
13:53.07 | theCroc | mine had finding stuff issues the first time I tried it as well |
13:53.08 | Marajin | aaand the kaiser survives with 11% battery remaining :P |
13:53.13 | Marajin | unboxes his new shiny shiny |
13:53.31 | theCroc | nice |
13:54.23 | Marajin | whoa the x1 is smaller than my kaiser |
13:54.44 | theCroc | it is a lot smaller than one expects |
13:54.56 | Marajin | no kidding |
13:56.06 | Synth3t1c | okay |
13:56.08 | Synth3t1c | so |
13:56.14 | Synth3t1c | i ran HaRET again |
13:56.27 | Synth3t1c | this time, is default.txt okay? |
13:56.37 | theCroc | it should be |
13:56.47 | theCroc | thats what I |
13:56.47 | theCroc | e |
13:56.49 | Synth3t1c | kk trying again |
13:57.01 | Synth3t1c | same shit dude |
13:57.11 | Marajin | whoa |
13:57.13 | Marajin | fucking nice |
13:57.13 | Synth3t1c | should i let it sit like that for a while? |
13:57.16 | Marajin | free 4GB SDHC card! |
13:57.24 | theCroc | maybe |
13:57.35 | theCroc | what does the screen look like? |
13:57.49 | theCroc | did it do a little buzz? |
13:58.29 | Marajin | um yes? |
13:59.01 | theCroc | and it got to the screen with the penguin? |
13:59.06 | Synth3t1c | yea it did a little buzz |
13:59.08 | Synth3t1c | yea |
13:59.20 | Synth3t1c | first error |
13:59.27 | Synth3t1c | init: cannot find /system/bin/sh |
13:59.32 | theCroc | hm |
13:59.38 | theCroc | try an earlier build |
13:59.45 | theCroc | http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=58&task=view.download&cid=19 |
13:59.46 | Synth3t1c | second /system/bin/servicemanager |
13:59.51 | theCroc | like this one I guess |
13:59.56 | theCroc | hm |
13:59.58 | theCroc | that is weird |
14:00.07 | Marajin | I love this screen.. it's amazingly sharp |
14:00.13 | Synth3t1c | whats the difference? |
14:00.30 | theCroc | http://www.htc-android.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=109&sid=8041eee12b6b3b7ad618a717cc165f28 |
14:00.40 | exco | btw anybody working on improving haret? |
14:00.42 | theCroc | the one you are trying has a newer build of the kernel |
14:01.09 | Synth3t1c | ok |
14:01.12 | Synth3t1c | so go one back? |
14:01.24 | Synth3t1c | ill do the whole process with the olde rone |
14:01.25 | theCroc | well check out the thread I sent you |
14:01.31 | theCroc | it might have something |
14:02.24 | theCroc | seems like more people have your issue |
14:02.25 | Synth3t1c | The trick is to throw everything in the folder 'tmp' on the storage card. |
14:02.57 | Synth3t1c | no thats just wrong |
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14:03.47 | theCroc | here is one |
14:03.57 | theCroc | do you have the RAPH100 or the RAPH800? |
14:04.12 | theCroc | apparently there are different packages for those |
14:04.17 | Synth3t1c | how do i know? |
14:04.20 | theCroc | http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=58&task=viewcategory&catid=4 |
14:04.24 | theCroc | I'm not sure |
14:04.37 | theCroc | check out the wiki at XDA-developers |
14:04.45 | theCroc | there is probably a guide there |
14:05.17 | theCroc | my guess is that sprint has one model and the rest have another since sprint doeanst use gsm (Or something like that) |
14:05.19 | Synth3t1c | i have 800 |
14:05.39 | theCroc | that would be your problem then it seems |
14:05.57 | theCroc | there is one in the list for the 800 |
14:05.59 | theCroc | try that one |
14:07.12 | Synth3t1c | downloading now |
14:08.29 | Synth3t1c | copying now |
14:10.01 | Synth3t1c | soft reset nowe |
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14:12.18 | Synth3t1c | waiting for touchflo to start so i can boot up harem |
14:12.27 | Synth3t1c | if it doesnt work can i eat your children? |
14:12.47 | Synth3t1c | running haret now |
14:13.09 | Synth3t1c | same shit dude |
14:13.11 | Synth3t1c | :\ |
14:13.20 | theCroc | then I dont know |
14:13.26 | theCroc | look through that tread |
14:13.34 | theCroc | maybe there is a solution there |
14:14.10 | Synth3t1c | maybe it isnt 800 |
14:14.15 | Synth3t1c | no it is |
14:14.27 | Synth3t1c | i quit for now :O |
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14:20.02 | Marajin | .. man after the kaiser this thingy is dreamy |
14:20.07 | Marajin | AstainHasPS3: got my X1 a few minutes ago |
14:23.13 | theCroc | Synth3t1c: You might want to have a look at this: http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=58&task=view.download&cid=18 |
14:35.47 | AstainHasPS3 | nice Marajin |
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14:39.55 | AstainHasPS3 | I hope to somehow make the athena 2 my next ppc |
14:42.47 | Marajin | I think I'm gonna be happy with my X1 for a while, it's working very nicely |
14:42.51 | Marajin | the screen is awesome |
14:44.18 | AstainHasPS3 | cool |
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14:46.02 | AstainHasPS3 | http://i.gizmodo.com/5169224/what-in-wired-hell-is-this |
14:47.05 | lupine_85 | 800x480 ? |
14:48.39 | Marajin | yeah |
14:48.45 | Marajin | but it's smaller than my kaiser |
14:48.54 | Marajin | so I've gone from QVGA to WVGA on the same size of screen |
14:50.39 | lupine_85 | my raph had 287dpi |
14:50.41 | lupine_85 | was insanely good |
14:51.04 | AstainHasPS3 | I love the raph its so beautiful screen |
14:51.53 | lupine_85 | ugh, I'm going down to QVGA myself, it seems |
14:53.31 | Marajin | heh |
14:53.40 | Marajin | well hte x1 only has a 3" screen too |
14:55.32 | Marajin | 310 dpi basically |
14:56.21 | lupine_85 | nice |
14:56.25 | lupine_85 | but squinty :) |
14:56.44 | Marajin | amazingly, not, I read it quite clearly in stuff like opera |
14:57.51 | AstainHasPS3 | http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/03/13/zer01-is-the-new-contract-less-mvno-that-will-bring-voip-to-the/ |
15:05.10 | AstainHasPS3 | Marajin how much did you play with android on your kaiser? |
15:16.28 | Marajin | AstainHasPS3: quite a bit why? |
15:16.37 | AstainHasPS3 | curious how well it worked for you? |
15:18.49 | Marajin | well, the google acounting syncing, wouldn't |
15:19.05 | Marajin | it constantly bombarded me with some thread crashing messages |
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15:19.17 | Marajin | the SD card had some buffer issues |
15:19.37 | Marajin | and things like the browser would crash for no forseeable reason |
15:19.50 | Marajin | but otherwise, it acutally worked well |
15:19.53 | Marajin | it was fast/responsive |
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15:22.21 | AstainHasPS3 | cool |
15:23.02 | power_usr | AstainHasPS3 - I got angstrom booting |
15:23.36 | power_usr | Wasn't sure what to do once I logged is as root, though. |
15:23.42 | power_usr | But still cool to see |
15:24.20 | AstainHasPS3 | lol |
15:24.42 | power_usr | Is there a way to load a gui, with "xstart" or something? |
15:25.14 | AstainHasPS3 | I dont know if anyones gotten x working on raph you can try running a startx |
15:26.47 | power_usr | OK thanks. |
15:27.24 | power_usr | Any other progress from last night with maejrep? |
15:27.32 | power_usr | after i left? |
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15:34.56 | sroecker | i built angstrom for the kaiser (actually htcvogue, but all kaiser code is now in vogue branch) |
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15:41.47 | AstainHasPS3 | nope power_usr maejrep said he would play with it a bit today |
15:41.57 | power_usr | ok |
15:42.17 | AstainHasPS3 | did I mention I did get it to launch though? |
15:42.35 | AstainHasPS3 | (android) |
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15:51.12 | sroecker | power_usr: did you build the angstrom image yourself? |
15:51.19 | power_usr | nope |
15:51.26 | power_usr | oh yeah? |
15:51.28 | power_usr | how? |
15:51.33 | power_usr | AstainHasPS3 |
15:51.47 | power_usr | sroecker: I got angstrom build from maejrep |
15:51.56 | AstainHasPS3 | yep power_usr if I didnt include the smd_7500 in the kernel and used my options I had for default with the right mtype it worked perfect |
15:52.08 | sroecker | mine doesn't boot :/ |
15:52.28 | power_usr | What build of Android are you using AstainHasPS3? |
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15:54.13 | AstainHasPS3 | power_usr one of the latest from http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=58&task=viewcategory&catid=4 |
15:54.42 | power_usr | OK. I got mine booting too with the Feb 3rd build |
15:54.56 | power_usr | But the color isn't good on that old build |
15:56.35 | AstainHasPS3 | yes I built my own zImage with the new color stuffs but without the smd_7500 stuffs |
15:56.43 | power_usr | yup ok |
15:56.56 | power_usr | Thanks for the clarification |
15:57.04 | power_usr | Is this zImage build available for download :) |
15:59.06 | AstainHasPS3 | I can place it somewhere for you |
15:59.12 | power_usr | That would be great |
15:59.15 | power_usr | maybe later though? |
15:59.22 | power_usr | i have something for the next 3 hrs |
15:59.33 | power_usr | will be out starting in 1 min |
16:02.00 | AstainHasPS3 | filedropper.com/zImage |
16:02.10 | AstainHasPS3 | when ever you wanna grab it feel free |
16:02.47 | power_usr | got it. thanks |
16:02.50 | power_usr | gotta run now |
16:03.16 | power_usr | I'll check in later and let you know how it works |
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16:39.41 | einand | Synth3t1c: ? |
16:40.04 | einand | Synth3t1c: i was totaly out of sync with my english |
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18:02.04 | Ben- | hi folk |
18:02.12 | AstainHasPS3 | hi |
18:02.30 | Ben- | anything new about linux/android on blackstone? |
18:02.41 | AstainHasPS3 | not that I've seen |
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18:07.09 | lupine_85 | wonders if something like haret would work on an e71 |
18:07.19 | lupine_85 | they're arm11 chips themselves by the looks of it |
18:07.24 | AstainHasPS3 | e71 huh? |
18:07.36 | lupine_85 | mmm |
18:07.44 | lupine_85 | kind of all I can get hold of right now |
18:07.59 | AstainHasPS3 | damn ouch but atleast its a decent phone |
18:08.02 | tmzt | nokia? |
18:08.07 | lupine_85 | but will likely be back to HTC after 12 months of that |
18:08.07 | lupine_85 | aye |
18:08.17 | tmzt | with ce |
18:08.29 | AstainHasPS3 | tmzt huh? |
18:08.34 | lupine_85 | symbian |
18:09.01 | tmzt | oh, haret would need ported then |
18:10.09 | lupine_85 | mmm, quite. I think the main question is whether it'd be able to do the disabling of interrupts and MMU |
18:10.13 | tmzt | ast, any idea on smd7500? |
18:10.45 | AstainHasPS3 | not sure... did you see what power_usr and I were talking about earlier? |
18:13.07 | tmzt | no |
18:14.16 | tmzt | lupine_85: you have e71 now? |
18:14.28 | tmzt | AstainHasPS3: will read logs |
18:14.55 | AstainHasPS3 | k |
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18:16.14 | kiozen | hi tsdogs |
18:16.22 | kiozen | no translation for waypoint? |
18:16.25 | tsdogs | hi kiozen |
18:16.27 | tsdogs | nope |
18:16.37 | tsdogs | waypoint stays waypoint :) |
18:16.42 | kiozen | ok :) |
18:17.13 | tsdogs | literal would be "punto di passaggio" but imho nobody would understand :) |
18:17.50 | kiozen | we had the same problem in german for track |
18:18.14 | kiozen | it's great to see GT with all these different languages |
18:18.20 | kiozen | real fun to compare |
18:18.44 | tsdogs | I now have my app translated to chinese which is lot's of fun :) |
18:19.02 | kiozen | yes that must look interesting |
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18:19.26 | kiozen | andrew told me that someone is working on russian translation |
18:19.51 | tsdogs | cool |
18:20.19 | tsdogs | ho I forgot to mention the few more errors ... |
18:20.24 | kiozen | have to show my wife later :) |
18:20.37 | tsdogs | lol |
18:20.41 | tsdogs | TrackStartTraineeWidget: heardrate [bpm], heart rate [bpm] |
18:20.41 | kiozen | you have a patch? |
18:20.42 | tsdogs | IMapSearchWidget: Gray Threshold -> Grey ... |
18:20.51 | tsdogs | only this 2 I found |
18:21.02 | kiozen | arg yes gray/grey |
18:21.11 | kiozen | I always get confused |
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18:22.16 | kiozen | is it ok to put you to the translation credits section? |
18:22.42 | tsdogs | sure |
18:23.03 | tsdogs | so there's someone to blame for a poor translation :) |
18:23.08 | tsdogs | brb |
18:23.20 | kiozen | ook |
18:24.57 | tsdogs | back |
18:25.48 | kiozen | locales is a good idea |
18:26.21 | kiozen | however it_IT seems to be the common desktop scheme |
18:26.27 | tsdogs | also translations would do |
18:26.28 | kiozen | don'r know why |
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18:26.43 | tsdogs | 'cause there is a Swiss italian |
18:27.01 | kiozen | yes that makes sense |
18:27.09 | tsdogs | but imho there is no much difference in the language, only the money and so on is different |
18:27.42 | kiozen | for german some words would be different |
18:28.00 | kiozen | and you could convert to slang :) |
18:28.05 | tsdogs | lol |
18:28.19 | tsdogs | I saw some strage locale on launchpad ... |
18:29.52 | tsdogs | https://translations.launchpad.net/+languages/pms |
18:30.06 | tsdogs | this is slang :) |
18:30.55 | kiozen | lol "Piemontese has no team or person registered as an expert. " |
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18:32.33 | kiozen | gray is correct |
18:37.37 | tmzt | ast I ttried disabling the diag, still reboot after android logo |
18:37.43 | tmzt | AstainHasPS3: |
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18:40.20 | power_usr | AstainEEE AstainHasPS3 - the zImage you sent me works on RAPH800 |
18:42.08 | kiozen | tsdogs: hehe wife is struggling, too much tech lingo :) |
18:42.44 | tsdogs | really? lol. |
18:43.08 | tsdogs | hmm, could be. |
18:43.16 | AstainHasPS3 | tmzt disable the smd_7500 then it will boot into android |
18:43.32 | AstainHasPS3 | something with the smd_7500 code reads an intercept for something and causes a reboot |
18:44.21 | kiozen | yes she never used a computer in school |
18:45.42 | tsdogs | ho, I thought I was too techie :) |
18:46.36 | tsdogs | now, I'll try to use it and see what really is badly translated... |
18:46.45 | kiozen | lol |
18:47.51 | kiozen | all translators told me they have found functions in GT the y never dreamed about :) |
18:48.15 | power_usr | AstainHasPS3: So now I can boot into Android on my RAPH800 and play with it. Perfect colors. |
18:48.48 | tmzt | power_usr: do you have smd7500 enabled? |
18:49.02 | power_usr | I have a build from AstainHasPS3 |
18:49.11 | power_usr | So I guess it is disabled |
18:49.20 | tmzt | AstainHasPS3: |
18:49.52 | AstainHasPS3 | yes? |
18:50.03 | tmzt | are you using a linux host, pow:? |
18:50.30 | tmzt | AstainHasPS3: is smd7500 enabled in powusr's buld? |
18:50.47 | tsdogs | kiozen: yep, that's the same for me, but I don't have all that experience with this kind of sw |
18:51.47 | kiozen | tsdogs: yes, all that map creation stuff has heavy geek factor |
18:52.35 | power_usr | Nope I'm on Windows |
18:52.43 | power_usr | I copied over files via ActiveSync |
18:53.18 | power_usr | to the tmp directory. Every file is the same as Feb 3rd build, except for ZImage from AstainHasPS3 and the config file from maejrep (mostly just MTYPE) |
18:53.44 | tmzt | ok |
18:54.51 | tsdogs | kiozen: either my translation is very buggy, or there is something strange in the osm->img process |
18:55.23 | AstainHasPS3 | tmzt the build I gave power_usr has smd_7500 off |
18:55.55 | tsdogs | the way I live in is a highway, but all the others are borders :( |
18:56.04 | power_usr | The keyboard didn't seem to work when I tried it |
18:56.15 | tmzt | which mtype? |
18:56.26 | kiozen | tsdogs: you use img from osm? |
18:56.47 | power_usr | set MTYPE 2039 |
18:56.55 | kiozen | sometimes these are very badly coded |
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18:56.56 | tsdogs | kiozen: don't remember anymore :) I think so |
18:57.19 | kiozen | tsdogs: after all , street types are just numbers |
18:57.23 | tsdogs | well, it must be the conversion though, as I draw thoose streets |
18:57.35 | kiozen | if these are wrong you live on a highway |
18:58.28 | tsdogs | kiozen: I think I got this one http://downloads.cloudmade.com/europe/italy#breadcrumbs |
18:58.47 | tsdogs | transforming the osm2img using java is impossible :) |
18:59.34 | kiozen | not impossible but a challenge ;) |
18:59.57 | tsdogs | lol |
19:00.17 | tsdogs | one I miserably failed! |
19:00.18 | kiozen | tsdogs: if you have DEM data the real fun starts: http://www.qlandkarte.org/shot13.png |
19:00.34 | kiozen | thinks java sucks |
19:00.53 | tsdogs | kiozen: yeah I think I need to get the data |
19:01.03 | tsdogs | opencyclemap should have it ... |
19:01.10 | tsdogs | agrees |
19:01.22 | kiozen | tsdogs: http://www.viewfinderpanoramas.org/dem3.html |
19:02.06 | kiozen | tsdogs: in source tree of GT is a script srtmconvert.py |
19:02.10 | tmzt | power_usr: what MTYPE are you using? |
19:02.19 | kiozen | that will show you how to convert data |
19:02.24 | tsdogs | lol "slight local terracing and pockets of inaccuracy, especially in Italy. " |
19:02.25 | power_usr | tmzt: 2039 |
19:02.38 | power_usr | tmzt: this is what maejrep told us to use, and the wiki says so too |
19:03.10 | tsdogs | kiozen: ok, my next exercise :) |
19:03.29 | tsdogs | How do I know which one I need ? |
19:04.26 | tsdogs | ok, it's lon/lat in the name :) |
19:04.30 | kiozen | yes :) |
19:05.34 | kiozen | tsdogs: another one, garmin map with typ file and dem shading as overlay: http://www.qlandkarte.org/shot14.png |
19:05.43 | kiozen | same are as 3D view |
19:05.59 | kiozen | it's a free map of south tirol |
19:06.28 | tsdogs | where the heck did you find it? |
19:06.59 | kiozen | tsdogs: http://www.maptk.dnsalias.com/Maps/ |
19:07.20 | tsdogs | thx |
19:07.23 | kiozen | and using DEM data for complete alps |
19:07.54 | kiozen | it's pretty good but has some errors with elevation lines |
19:07.57 | tmzt | power_usr: keyboard doesn't work with that MTYPE? |
19:08.03 | kiozen | gradient algo failes misserably |
19:08.19 | power_usr | tmzt: I'll check |
19:08.36 | kiozen | tsdogs: hope one day we get that quality on a mobile device :) |
19:09.01 | tmzt | the other mtypes are for diam which doesn't have a keyboard |
19:09.11 | power_usr | tmzt: what is best app to test keyboard in? |
19:09.32 | tmzt | in android? |
19:09.36 | power_usr | tmzt: yup |
19:09.46 | tmzt | I guess notes or browser |
19:10.09 | power_usr | tmzt: ok it does work |
19:10.10 | tsdogs | kiozen: not that far away imho |
19:10.11 | power_usr | tmzt: my bad |
19:10.26 | power_usr | tmzt: it wasn't working in a version of angstrom i guess. but i tihnk that must have been an old one |
19:10.47 | tmzt | it should work in angstrom |
19:10.48 | power_usr | tmzt: shift and caps key don't appear to work |
19:10.58 | kiozen | tsdogs: hm, still far away from rendering garmin maps fast enought |
19:11.00 | tmzt | leds don't |
19:11.06 | power_usr | tmzt: oh they do if I hold down shift |
19:11.17 | power_usr | tmzt: a bit different behavior than Windows Mobile |
19:11.36 | tsdogs | kiozen: outside the trunk? |
19:11.47 | tsdogs | for the srtm..? |
19:12.04 | power_usr | This android is damn cool |
19:12.05 | kiozen | tsdogs: ?? |
19:12.13 | power_usr | tmzt: clock even works now! |
19:12.29 | tmzt | now we need data |
19:12.51 | tsdogs | kiozen: "in source tree of GT is a script srtmconvert.py" i cannot find it in svn... |
19:12.58 | power_usr | that is true. I think maejrep has made some initial steps that way. Data works on Vogue CDMA, so it can't be too far off |
19:13.06 | kiozen | tsdogs: yes in ztrunk |
19:13.34 | tsdogs | hmm. |
19:13.51 | tmzt | vogue is a different device, I would like to know how dzo got that working though |
19:14.11 | tsdogs | ok found it, dunno why find couldn't locate it ... |
19:14.18 | tmzt | particularly how it works with DIAG |
19:14.52 | power_usr | yeah, but Qualcomm chipset is supposedly similar |
19:14.59 | power_usr | the MSM chipset |
19:15.14 | kiozen | tsdogs: you might need to tweak it a bit, i used it to convert all 1'' SRTM tiles of the alps |
19:15.38 | tsdogs | it just finished creating the tiff |
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19:16.03 | tsdogs | kiozen: is it the srtm.tif? |
19:16.28 | kiozen | tsdogs: yes |
19:16.42 | kiozen | for garmin maps any projection should do |
19:16.44 | tsdogs | hmm, it looks odd :) |
19:16.47 | AstainHasPS3 | tmzt I do know dzo is very good at responding to emails with any questions |
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19:17.03 | kiozen | tsdogs: in an image viewer? |
19:17.16 | kiozen | tsdogs: is 16bit per point |
19:17.24 | tsdogs | no in GT... |
19:17.38 | kiozen | yes if you open it as map |
19:17.54 | kiozen | tsdogs: activate the garmin map |
19:18.12 | kiozen | tsdogs: rightclick the the map in the map list |
19:18.17 | kiozen | "Add DEM..." |
19:18.59 | kiozen | now you should see elevation with coordinat |
19:19.08 | kiozen | in right bottom |
19:19.17 | power_usr | i couldn't send a text message. i had heard murmurs that text messages would work |
19:19.25 | power_usr | but I guess not |
19:19.59 | kiozen | tsdogs: if that works3D gadget and shading will work, too |
19:20.01 | AstainHasPS3 | power_usr sms won't work without the smd7500 |
19:20.13 | tsdogs | kiozen: http://195.32.70.240/tsdogs/screenshots/qlandkartegt1.png |
19:21.01 | power_usr | AstainHasPS3: Oh ok, thanks. Do ppl know why smd7500 is a problem on RAPH800? |
19:21.16 | kiozen | tsdogs: looks good but your status bar looks wrong |
19:21.30 | kiozen | and menu is funny too |
19:21.47 | AstainHasPS3 | power_usr: dunno maejrep said he would try to look at things today |
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19:21.58 | tsdogs | kiozen: yeah, same problem I showed you. I have the coordinates over the menu |
19:22.20 | tsdogs | why is everything white :) |
19:22.25 | kiozen | tsdogs: if you go to config... there is a tab "keys" |
19:22.47 | kiozen | tsdogs: zoom level is to far away |
19:23.08 | kiozen | tsdogs: the more you zoom out the less details (polylines, polygons) |
19:23.22 | kiozen | you can use the detail +- on the map to change that |
19:23.46 | tsdogs | ok, I navigated inside it, but it still looks funny with all that white :) |
19:24.09 | kiozen | tsdogs: right now 2d and 3D view are linked together |
19:24.23 | kiozen | you see in 3D what you see in 2D |
19:26.09 | tsdogs | kiozen: http://195.32.70.240/tsdogs/screenshots/qlandkartegt2.png |
19:26.12 | tsdogs | this looks better |
19:27.19 | tsdogs | I need a better base map. |
19:29.38 | tsdogs | kiozen: thx. gg now. I'll let u know about my tests :) |
19:29.52 | kiozen | ok, bbl |
19:32.16 | kiozen | tsdogs: you can do the same with ---osm--- |
19:32.48 | tsdogs | kiozen: u mean without the img? |
19:33.04 | kiozen | yes |
19:33.22 | kiozen | just add the srtm to --osm--- |
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19:34.16 | tsdogs | ok but I do not see anything if I activate the osm layer |
19:34.54 | kiozen | nothing to see at N0 E0 |
19:34.55 | tsdogs | lol key should be Tasti and not Chiavi :) |
19:35.24 | kiozen | use search to move map to your area |
19:38.05 | tsdogs | kiozen: no idea how to search :) |
19:38.41 | tsdogs | ok never mind :) |
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19:39.57 | tsdogs | kiozen: I should reproject the geotif? |
19:41.50 | tsdogs | ok gg |
19:46.17 | Marajin | wheeee, wvga broke something |
19:46.43 | Marajin | (it screws up scummvm's cursor positioning cause of the aspect ratio) |
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19:50.11 | captnoord | Marajin: ya got it? |
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19:57.06 | AstainHasPS3 | makes sense that it would breaks stuff Marajin |
20:05.29 | Marajin | um, how do you soft reset an x1 |
20:05.35 | Marajin | and yeah I got it captnoord |
20:05.37 | Marajin | the screen is awesome |
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20:06.06 | captnoord | and it boots? |
20:06.13 | AstainHasPS3 | Marajin you ever had a vga/wvga device before? |
20:06.18 | Marajin | no |
20:06.22 | Marajin | QVGA all the way |
20:06.22 | AstainHasPS3 | soft reset hmm pull battery? |
20:06.23 | captnoord | k |
20:06.30 | Marajin | well I had some palms that were HVGA |
20:06.39 | AstainHasPS3 | damn yah my first vga was axim x51v that was nice |
20:06.50 | AstainHasPS3 | then got raph100 then raph800 vga ftw |
20:06.57 | Marajin | heh |
20:07.05 | Marajin | the quality of the screen is ludicrously nice |
20:07.15 | AstainHasPS3 | its amazing the difference vga makes over qvga |
20:07.42 | Marajin | I've gone from QVGA to WVGA though :P |
20:07.45 | Marajin | it's even bigger |
20:07.56 | Marajin | I open opera now and go '....ye gods, I can SEE the website' |
20:08.12 | captnoord | hehe |
20:08.12 | AstainHasPS3 | eh I kinda wonder how big it is I've only seen wqvga qvga and vga so far... |
20:08.14 | Marajin | and fucking hell is the UI more responsive than the kaiser was.. |
20:08.30 | captnoord | yea better software I bet |
20:08.30 | captnoord | P |
20:08.43 | Marajin | AstainHasPS3: well 640x480 -> 800x480, it's a 160 pixels innit |
20:08.46 | Marajin | but at 3" ? |
20:08.51 | Marajin | the DPI is like 310 |
20:09.22 | AstainHasPS3 | yah didnt lupine_85 say raph is like 290ish dpi? |
20:09.41 | Marajin | also, I love the fact the X1 has a standard 3.5mm jack for headphones |
20:10.04 | AstainHasPS3 | that is nice if you use headphones much |
20:11.03 | AstainHasPS3 | would love to see a ppc with something like wxvga or better on it something like the athena2 with that type of screen |
20:11.10 | Marajin | well the nice thing is you can charge and use headphones/mic at the same time without buying a bit off ebay |
20:11.51 | AstainHasPS3 | my raph800 came with it can't recall if the 100 did |
20:12.06 | Marajin | ya know the x1 has a built in usb mass storage mode? |
20:12.46 | AstainHasPS3 | yah all the new gen of htc phones have that one |
20:13.04 | Marajin | ah I haven't really played with anything newer than the kaiser yet |
20:13.10 | Marajin | so it's all new to me |
20:13.21 | Marajin | heh, htc kovsky? |
20:13.21 | AstainHasPS3 | ahh yah true |
20:13.39 | AstainHasPS3 | actually there were ppl that backported the usb mass storage mode to kaiser gen |
20:16.49 | Marajin | woo for working tom tom I think |
20:17.14 | AstainHasPS3 | tomtom didn't work for you on kaiser? |
20:17.19 | Marajin | amazingly it doesn't wig out about WVGA |
20:17.23 | Marajin | erm sure but it's laggy on kaiser |
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20:17.49 | AstainHasPS3 | it wasn't laggy for me on kaiser hmm |
20:18.04 | Marajin | it was.. the hardware accel issue |
20:18.18 | Marajin | it was well known that it actually ran smoother on older devices than the kaiser |
20:18.36 | AstainHasPS3 | ahh ic |
20:18.42 | AstainHasPS3 | the actual graphics |
20:19.11 | Marajin | yeah |
20:19.29 | Marajin | actually the route finding and name searching is majorly faster on the x1 but I guess it would be |
20:20.04 | AstainHasPS3 | faster newer gen proc could do that |
20:36.44 | Marajin | yeah I know |
20:36.49 | Marajin | hmm I can't get any GPS signal at all |
20:36.52 | Marajin | worrisome that |
20:37.05 | Marajin | and the external gps settings panel keeps going back to '(none)' |
20:38.51 | AstainHasPS3 | on the hardware tab of it? |
20:40.04 | Marajin | yes |
20:40.17 | AstainHasPS3 | thats supposed to be none |
20:40.40 | Marajin | they say no device till I set it to com0 (it does go back to (none) again automatically though |
20:40.52 | Marajin | it does see the gps now but just no satellites |
20:40.53 | Marajin | whee |
20:41.04 | Marajin | my kaiser could sometimes get a fix even indoors, it certainly saw at least a sat or two |
20:55.08 | Marajin | oh.. it's found itself |
20:55.15 | Marajin | it must have wanted a cold start warm up period |
20:55.26 | Marajin | it's gone from having NFC to finding 7 satellites in the MIDDLE of the house now |
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20:55.49 | AstainEEE | not too shabby |
20:55.59 | AstainEEE | well time to go home yay! |
20:56.00 | Marajin | that's downright impressive |
20:56.04 | Marajin | enjoy |
20:56.06 | Marajin | see ya later AstainEEE |
20:57.35 | AstainEEE | see yah |
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21:11.11 | Marajin | ok google are starting to worry me now |
21:14.57 | captnoord | ? |
21:14.59 | captnoord | how come? |
21:15.05 | Marajin | ya seen 'google voice' ? |
21:15.14 | Marajin | keeping your voicemails and transcribing them |
21:15.17 | captnoord | nope |
21:15.22 | captnoord | lol |
21:15.40 | captnoord | goes paranoid |
21:21.18 | cr2 | Marajin: +aes256, and goggle will be happy transcribing ;) |
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21:25.16 | Marajin | cr2: hah :p |
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22:44.11 | tmzt | maejrep: Ast: I don't mean that diag not being there is the cause of crash, I THINK that it is because it is trying to talk qualcomm DM over smd1 which is ppp with your patches, and failing. If it fails to open smd1 at all it appears to ignore it |
22:45.35 | tmzt | it shuts off for me also, not reboot, if the usb is plugged in the usb charge light pattern appears but the phone is off |
22:47.36 | tmzt | maejrep: I also get a number of ena messages but it doesn't crash |
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22:54.57 | tmzt | * ARM:mx51 Add CONFIG_ARCH_MXC_CANONICAL to disable parts of Freescale's code |
23:07.43 | cr2 | tmzt: what does mxc have to do with msm ? |
23:08.09 | tmzt | nothing, but this is apparently a new "netbook" being developed for ubuntu mobile |
23:08.25 | tmzt | it will also be used in some phones, possibly the new Motorola android ones |
23:12.39 | cr2 | ok |
23:13.33 | tmzt | I just saw it in my ubuntu kernel changelog |
23:16.24 | captnoord | re |
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23:22.32 | no2chem | hey, anyone know how to turn on kb bkl on raph800/500? |
23:23.42 | no2chem | wiki says 0xCC, 0x40, 0x00, 0x40 but this only works on raph100? |
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