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01:03.23 | pzztgotbagz | so i wonder what well be able to pull from the new g1 update |
01:03.32 | pzztgotbagz | to help us with building for touch pro |
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03:31.12 | ttols | Im searching for zImage. ipaq 600/610/612/614 |
03:48.10 | tmzt | why? |
03:52.35 | ttols | more similar with rw6100 than magician. |
03:54.03 | tmzt | ok, then you need the source for those |
03:54.38 | ttols | what source? |
03:55.16 | tmzt | kernel source |
03:56.00 | tmzt | the reason I said magician is its a basic pxa27x device in mainstream linux |
03:56.40 | tmzt | you should be able to get the video working and maybe keyboard |
03:57.26 | ttols | Im searching... where is it? :) |
03:58.02 | ttols | anyone did? |
03:59.58 | AstainHasPS3 | hiya |
04:02.46 | pzztgotbagz | sup astain how ya doing |
04:03.35 | AstainHasPS3 | doing ok been cleaning house today |
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04:15.55 | tmzt | AstainHasPS3: does android work for you? |
04:22.05 | AstainHasPS3 | tmzt haven't tried in a bit will give it a shot tomorrow while at office |
04:26.06 | tmzt | ok, I think it might be the DIAG thing but I'm not sure |
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06:31.56 | Untouchab1e | Good morning all :D |
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08:52.06 | Marajin | hah |
08:52.10 | Marajin | morning people |
08:52.49 | Marajin | hey AstainHasPS3, So I spoke to the people at o2, they can't give me the handset free but they've taken 15/month off my tariff for the full length of the contract, which is ironically about 6 times more than just giving me the free handset |
08:53.49 | Marajin | (in dollars, they've taken a 66 dollar/month tariff and given it me for 45 dollar/month ) |
08:55.49 | Marajin | so I get it on a 1200 minutes/1000 sms/unlimited data for 45 dollars/month, whee |
08:56.42 | Marajin | I did get the X1 though, however in the face of a 270 pounds saving and they promised to replace it if the case cracks.... |
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10:08.28 | rakeem | Anyone care to brief me on anything Uni related developments in the last 6 months or so since I was around? Also, what's the preferred device these days? Kaiser? Long time respect: Kevin2 kiozen BabelO cr2 goxboxlive paulproteus etc. I've missed you. What should I be playing with? |
10:18.21 | Abracadabra | good morning |
10:18.24 | goxboxlive | rakeem: It seems like the htcuniversal project is stalled. And what device to run now i have no idea. |
10:18.34 | goxboxlive | i' not that active anymore. |
10:18.54 | rakeem | Hey man. You hung up your card-reader for a while huh? |
10:18.59 | rakeem | cr2 still around? |
10:23.42 | rakeem | Abracadabra: What device d'you have? |
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10:26.04 | Abracadabra | rakeem: HTC Kaiser |
10:31.07 | rakeem | What's the support like these days? Got a Wiki / Main site URL? |
10:34.55 | Abracadabra | I am new to all this |
10:34.56 | Abracadabra | http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=378 |
10:35.11 | Abracadabra | this is WM though, not Linux |
10:38.31 | DJWillis | rakeem: there are a few wiki's/sites etc. on the kernel work, there is also XDA devs and the androidonhtc wiki. |
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13:01.55 | rakeem | Abro: I see you're also kickin' it over on the aircrack channel.... Sounds like we have similar tastes... What's the best monitor mode device you know of? Any support injection? I've had quite a bit of success wifi hacking with ACX100 on the Uni. Even had AP working (stable @ 1M)... |
13:04.35 | Marajin | allo allo |
13:14.54 | rakeem | allo allo |
13:16.03 | captnoord | allo allo |
13:16.35 | rakeem | What toy(s) you into at the moment? |
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13:16.52 | captnoord | me |
13:16.59 | captnoord | atm marconi antena's |
13:17.17 | rakeem | You'll go blind..... ;-) |
13:17.17 | captnoord | some stuff how to calculate the gain and stuff |
13:17.50 | captnoord | nope |
13:18.04 | captnoord | and i'm trying to cross check the smd offsets |
13:18.08 | captnoord | but fail for the moment |
13:18.45 | rakeem | I'm starting an industrial project soon where I'll get my hands on a US$20k spectrum analyser. I'll be able to really see what's going on..... |
13:19.03 | captnoord | and disasmbled the software of a pmm 7000 spectrum analyser |
13:19.09 | captnoord | visual basic 3 |
13:19.12 | captnoord | you have to be kidding me |
13:19.35 | rakeem | Is Marconi a type (as in form) of antenna? |
13:19.47 | captnoord | the most simple form of a antena |
13:20.10 | captnoord | http://deja.jails.nl/Data/Shared/Pictures/school/marcony%20antena%20-%20part%201%20-%20435%20MHz.jpg |
13:20.14 | captnoord | the right one is mine |
13:21.10 | captnoord | even as its wrong |
13:21.19 | captnoord | because the base plate needs to be 4x bigger |
13:22.38 | captnoord | if we say that the right one has a gain of 0 db referenced as a zero point |
13:22.51 | captnoord | it has it kinda all around |
13:22.53 | captnoord | the right one |
13:22.58 | captnoord | because its smaller |
13:23.12 | captnoord | and I mean the left one |
13:23.14 | captnoord | because its smaller |
13:23.21 | rakeem | 'the most simple form of a antena' after a straight, measured length omni-pole you mean? I presume the plate is to screw with the polar pattern yeah? |
13:23.22 | captnoord | the antena itself isn't straight |
13:23.33 | captnoord | nah |
13:23.39 | captnoord | its the mirror effect |
13:23.52 | captnoord | the theoretic working is close to a di pole |
13:24.05 | captnoord | the plate mirrors the effect |
13:24.07 | captnoord | so |
13:24.09 | rakeem | OK..... Like a hook antenna? |
13:24.22 | captnoord | kinda |
13:24.24 | captnoord | nah |
13:24.33 | captnoord | I still have to create lets say 4 diff one's |
13:24.38 | captnoord | and work out the theory and stuff |
13:24.50 | captnoord | and while i'm doing that |
13:25.00 | captnoord | I also have a big test next weak about chip design |
13:25.29 | captnoord | which sucks |
13:25.55 | rakeem | Urgh. IC design? You kids do that? Jesus. Respect man. I got kicked outta school at 16... |
13:26.24 | captnoord | i'm no kid dude |
13:26.24 | captnoord | :P |
13:26.38 | captnoord | i'm a guy who has had some study delays |
13:26.41 | rakeem | I wouldn't wanna be force-fed loads of antenna theory either.... What's your course? |
13:26.44 | captnoord | and try's to catch up |
13:26.44 | captnoord | :P |
13:27.05 | captnoord | atm i'm teaching basic C |
13:27.08 | rakeem | I have no idea what you mean... |
13:27.09 | captnoord | and C++ |
13:27.14 | rakeem | \-{ |
13:27.16 | captnoord | and learning electronics |
13:27.43 | captnoord | thank god I don't have to test these guys |
13:27.52 | captnoord | in about 6 weeks I will |
13:27.54 | captnoord | :( |
13:27.58 | rakeem | Nice. Hanging out on the correct level for a thinking man... Somewhere between keyboard and solder.... |
13:28.07 | captnoord | 50% of the people could learn to code |
13:28.08 | captnoord | the rest |
13:28.11 | captnoord | hmmmmm |
13:28.17 | captnoord | just need to force the shit into there head |
13:29.05 | rakeem | I can dig that though man... I'm kinda the same when talking to my accountant... He's given up explaining. |
13:29.30 | rakeem | Does cr2 still hang out here? |
13:29.30 | captnoord | and while i'm trying to make sure my girl still likes me |
13:29.36 | captnoord | I battle my adhd |
13:29.39 | captnoord | yup |
13:29.45 | captnoord | and writing some software |
13:29.47 | captnoord | damn |
13:29.49 | captnoord | i'm bussy |
13:30.49 | captnoord | but something happend |
13:30.53 | captnoord | with cr2 |
13:30.57 | captnoord | I dono the exact facts |
13:31.00 | rakeem | Mine's watching TV beside me... Sounds like you're already a qualified nerd, good luck with getting the bit of paper though... ;-) Yeah, have you seen cr2 around?' |
13:31.04 | rakeem | ...................? |
13:31.13 | captnoord | yup |
13:31.15 | captnoord | I have |
13:31.17 | captnoord | not today |
13:31.18 | rakeem | Not Black fucking Helicopters? |
13:31.58 | captnoord | O btw does your girl sometimes rip the laptop out of your hand and goes writing strange stuff on the irc? |
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13:32.26 | rakeem | That guy is the top computer nerd I've met (IRC). My mate John is possibly among the world's best electronics dudes though... Serious. |
13:32.40 | rakeem | Whaddaya mean 'something happened" with cr2? |
13:33.08 | captnoord | I dono |
13:33.10 | captnoord | I can't tell |
13:33.17 | captnoord | because I don't know the facts |
13:33.23 | captnoord | you should read back the irc logs |
13:33.26 | captnoord | not |
13:33.30 | captnoord | "something" |
13:33.32 | rakeem | Ballpark! Explosion, Award, Religion? |
13:33.37 | captnoord | nope |
13:33.37 | captnoord | nope |
13:33.40 | captnoord | not that stuff |
13:33.42 | rakeem | I will. Does he need help? |
13:33.46 | captnoord | drame stuff |
13:33.49 | captnoord | I think |
13:33.55 | captnoord | but don't kill me..... |
13:33.57 | captnoord | as I don't know |
13:33.57 | rakeem | drame? |
13:34.06 | captnoord | drama |
13:35.05 | rakeem | Arguments? Geeky bitch-fighting-style? No Federal Authorities or stuff like that? |
13:35.23 | captnoord | I think arguments |
13:35.27 | captnoord | but I just don't know |
13:35.33 | captnoord | you really should read back the logs |
13:35.34 | captnoord | :P |
13:36.00 | captnoord | read the stuff yourself |
13:36.04 | captnoord | I just don't know |
13:36.55 | rakeem | Wow. I always found him to be really cool, with *everyone*. I'll read the logs. All here owe that guy a pint or two minimum. |
13:37.11 | rakeem | Sorry for interrogating you like that... |
13:37.16 | captnoord | nah |
13:37.19 | captnoord | its ok |
13:37.24 | captnoord | i'm used to much more |
13:37.25 | rakeem | I've just bin absent for ~6mths.... |
13:37.27 | captnoord | your just interested |
13:37.31 | rakeem | Hehe... |
13:38.17 | rakeem | I've recently discovered the Worms Armageddon online game rooms to be the rudest place I've ever encountered on the net.... |
13:38.31 | rakeem | What handheld do you have? |
13:38.41 | captnoord | a htc raphael |
13:39.00 | rakeem | Don't know that one.... What's the linux support like? |
13:39.36 | captnoord | basic |
13:39.41 | captnoord | not like the voque |
13:39.52 | captnoord | but I lack the time to actualy do something about it myself |
13:39.52 | captnoord | :( |
13:39.57 | captnoord | I have some hours |
13:40.09 | captnoord | and then I try to hunt some info |
13:40.13 | captnoord | by running IDA |
13:40.14 | tmzt | the GPL stuff? |
13:42.15 | rakeem | Jesus, I lack the skills to do anything about it myself... I can't seem to make the leap down to driver code... That's the thing with self-taught, you're not always aware of where the gaps are... |
13:42.44 | rakeem | Gonna check the Vogue... BRB. |
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15:25.54 | rakeem | Hey marex... How's the pocketBSD port going? |
15:26.26 | marex | what pocketbsd ? |
15:29.05 | rakeem | I got the impression you'd got a BSD kernel running on a PXA... My German mate would be very impressed. |
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15:30.57 | marex | rakeem, I can boot OpenBSD on my Palm PDA |
15:35.32 | rakeem | To answer your previous question: *THAT* PocketBSD. Unless you have more than one... Plan 9 on a Kindle perhaps? ;-) |
15:36.17 | rakeem | That's a hardcore endeavour for one man yeah? Porting a kernel to a partially documented h/w platform? |
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15:46.20 | tmzt | AstainHasPS3: what's a good img for raph500? I'm trying to find them but I can only find nue |
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15:54.35 | AstainHasPS3 | I've heard that this image is a good one for the 800: http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=58&task=view.download&cid=19 |
15:55.43 | tmzt | ok, I'm trying ssk now I really don't know what to expect |
15:55.48 | tmzt | and I meant ce rom, sorry |
15:56.51 | AstainHasPS3 | ohh ce rom |
15:56.57 | AstainHasPS3 | you have vzw as carrier right? |
15:57.23 | tmzt | yeah |
15:57.30 | tmzt | ssk vzw version |
15:58.40 | tmzt | I tried android with a clean pull yesterday which worked, but only with smd_7500 disabled |
15:59.30 | tmzt | I don't know why that is but I think it's related to the smd1 being ppp instead of diag and android trying qualcomm dm over that port |
15:59.47 | tmzt | I haven't looked at the ril source though |
15:59.49 | AstainHasPS3 | hmm |
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16:48.35 | paulproteus | rakeem_, Hey, I haven't been involved either. )-: |
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17:18.35 | rakeem_ | paulproteus! My fellow BA user for a while, if I recall... Happy New Year dude....! |
17:18.47 | paulproteus | Not BA, just Uni. (-: |
17:18.51 | paulproteus | but happy new hew to you too! |
17:18.53 | paulproteus | (also Magician) |
17:18.55 | rakeem_ | Hehe... |
17:20.07 | rakeem_ | Installing Titchy on my Uni right now... If I wanna continue living the dream should I be on the Kaiser? I saw one for HK$1800 (US$=HK$/7.78)... |
17:20.43 | rakeem_ | US$230 |
17:21.00 | rakeem_ | What device have you got & how is it? |
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17:57.42 | Dunedan | I've a problem with a self compiled kernel for Blackstone. It'll hang at boot with the following message: "pc_clk_enable: enabling a clock that doesn't have an ena bit or ns-only offset: 20" |
17:57.50 | Dunedan | Any suggestions? |
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18:25.05 | Marajin | yo |
18:25.08 | Marajin | hey people |
18:25.31 | rakeem_ | Alright dude.... |
18:25.42 | Marajin | hurray for new phone tomorrow |
18:25.55 | rakeem_ | What's the device to be playing with then? What you getting? |
18:26.00 | Marajin | the X1 |
18:26.08 | Marajin | they gave me 270 GBP back on the deal |
18:26.27 | rakeem_ | I had a quick play with one of them. Quite nice... |
18:26.50 | Marajin | mate for 270 pounds back on the deal they're excellent regardless ;) |
18:27.35 | rakeem_ | Hmmm... 'Please have this cash in exchange for taking a phone...'? |
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19:35.14 | Marajin | rakeem_: haha, well I asked for the handset free but they gave me more than I'd asked |
19:35.27 | Marajin | they discounted my bill for the entire contract length |
19:35.44 | theCroc | I like when they do stuff like that |
19:36.02 | Marajin | yeah I was pretty glad |
19:36.04 | theCroc | I got mobile 3g broadband free for six months and no startup fee |
19:36.28 | theCroc | I went in ready to pay the full price as well |
19:36.39 | Marajin | they gave me 3 months free broadband this year and didn't even tell me |
19:36.43 | Marajin | they just did it randomly |
19:36.52 | theCroc | yeah |
19:37.12 | theCroc | my provider dropped the monthly payment for my TouchDiamond :) |
19:37.24 | theCroc | a portion of the bill was always for the phone |
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19:37.26 | Marajin | yeah I didn't want a diamond though |
19:37.29 | theCroc | but suddenly they dropped it |
19:37.52 | theCroc | I don't know |
19:37.56 | theCroc | I really like the diamond |
19:38.06 | Marajin | yeah but no SDHC and no keyboard is a killer for me |
19:38.08 | theCroc | but I do wish they had shipped it with android instead |
19:38.22 | theCroc | the SDHC thing does suck |
19:38.28 | theCroc | the keaboard I'm ok with |
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19:38.33 | theCroc | it makes the phone slimmer |
19:39.29 | Marajin | I care not, I am big I do not get concerned about phone size and weight |
19:40.06 | theCroc | I just like being able to have it in my fron pocket without feeling it there |
19:40.15 | theCroc | previous phones were always so bulky |
19:41.06 | Marajin | my pockets tend to be large enough :P |
19:42.06 | theCroc | yeah |
19:42.15 | theCroc | I could see myself with a touchpro though |
19:42.25 | theCroc | they arent that much thicker compared to some |
19:42.38 | Marajin | I would have got the touch pro but I couldn't get the same ludicrous deal on it |
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20:13.45 | rakeem_ | cr2! |
20:13.50 | rakeem_ | Long time no see.... |
20:14.51 | rakeem_ | What should I be replacing my ancient Uni with? I was thinking of the Kaiser. I can get them cheap second hand. Is the build as compatible, worse or better than the Uni? |
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20:20.27 | cr2 | hi rakeem_ |
20:20.46 | cr2 | rakeem_: ask dcordes about the kaiser, i don't know the current status |
20:30.19 | sroecker | kaiser is missing wifi and bluetooth |
20:30.32 | sroecker | gprs etc should work |
20:30.53 | AstainHasPS3 | tmzt you still looking for a rom: http://nex.ppckitchen.org/ROM/Touch_PRO-Herman/VzW/ |
20:31.46 | rakeem_ | sroecker: Urgh. That's kind of primative. What's got the best support of everything? |
20:32.42 | AstainHasPS3 | tuser231 |
20:33.24 | sroecker | rakeem_: dunno, kaiser/polaris/vogue seem to be pretty close |
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20:50.29 | _Rocket | hi |
20:50.48 | cr2 | sroecker: all msm phones miss wifi and bt |
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20:51.00 | cr2 | AstainHasPS3: have you tried umts ? |
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20:54.30 | rakeem_ | sroecker: So the google phone hasn't bequeathed us a total playground platform either? No perfect, showcase open-source handset at all? How's the Neo getting on these days? If you had one chance to sell it, what's the most functional, completely open, linux phone (even non-htc)? |
20:54.39 | AstainHasPS3 | cr2 huh? |
20:57.02 | sroecker | rakeem_: it does not exist yet :/ |
20:57.25 | cr2 | AstainHasPS3: maejrep added the smd7 chaneel |
20:58.08 | sroecker | but i think dcordes and the other guys will fix wifi and bt in a few weeks, so i would stick with a htc msm |
20:58.20 | AstainHasPS3 | ahh yes that cr2 no I not tried it yet |
20:59.24 | rakeem_ | I kind of had that feeling. I've been outta things for a 6 months. Quick Googling shows X booting on all kinds of new things like the Diamond and X1, but it seems you're telling me there's the perpetual fucking secrecy issue plaguing each one in some way? |
21:02.08 | rakeem_ | sroecker: I am awed by the skills displayed by the community over the years. D'yreckon we're any closer to some kind of breakthrough in the attitudes of manufacturers with Google pushing a platform rather than a device? |
21:04.06 | rakeem_ | I suppose the recent handset cartel's agreement to use standard USB connectors is a tectonic step forward.... |
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21:11.09 | cr2 | rakeem_: hehe. htc already extended usb to "extusb" |
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21:11.26 | sroecker | it's so much easer now for the manufacturers. with android they just have to care about hardware and drivers and i hope that we can benefit from this |
21:11.32 | cr2 | which supports audio out, tv out and serial console ;) |
21:12.32 | BabelO | cr2: hi :) |
21:12.43 | BabelO | i ve a preversion of M for you |
21:13.00 | cr2 | BabelO: qtext ? |
21:14.04 | BabelO | cr2: what is comport on athena and raphael ? |
21:14.10 | BabelO | to see if my code works |
21:16.20 | cr2 | BabelO: it's virtual, you can assign it. |
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21:17.14 | cr2 | BabelO: that's why i think that scanning through the registry is a good thing |
21:17.20 | BabelO | so com4 is ok for you ? i send you .exe with dll in few minutes for big screen |
21:17.44 | Marajin | hmm, I wonder if my kaiser battery'll last till I get my new phone tomorrow.. 39% |
21:17.49 | Marajin | bets anyone? :p |
21:18.31 | cr2 | BabelO: ok |
21:18.48 | cr2 | Marajin: a raph ? |
21:20.57 | AstainHasPS3 | Marajin theres a chance in hell |
21:21.05 | AstainHasPS3 | bigger chance if you leave it in flight mode |
21:21.49 | rakeem_ | Marajin: Pop the battery out and keep it in the freezer. It may make it. 8=} |
21:22.09 | rakeem_ | Nighty, night all. Love and hugs... |
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21:34.05 | Marajin | AstainHasPS3: don't forget my kaiser has been around a while |
21:34.19 | Marajin | AstainHasPS3: ya see what I said about the deal o2 gave me this morning? |
21:34.36 | AstainHasPS3 | no I didnt see what is it? |
21:35.04 | Marajin | Ok so on the X1 they said I'd have to pay 50 quid for the handset but they'd reduce my montly bill by 15 pounds for the full 18 months (that's 270 pounds total) |
21:35.14 | AstainHasPS3 | wow |
21:35.16 | Marajin | and promised a replacement if the case cracks |
21:35.20 | AstainHasPS3 | damn |
21:35.41 | Marajin | but because of something they're going to credit me retrospectively for this month anyway so it's actually 35 for the handset too |
21:35.44 | Marajin | heh |
21:35.53 | AstainHasPS3 | lucky bastard |
21:36.24 | Marajin | I said to the guy '... you realise I only asked for 50 quid to be waived and you've offering me 270 pounds total' |
21:36.48 | Marajin | and he was like 'sure but the system won't let us discount handsets so I figure why not just give you the best it will give on the tariff, you're owed some loyalty bonus anyway' |
21:37.08 | AstainHasPS3 | thats freaking awesome |
21:37.09 | Marajin | I don't even have to pay upfront for the handset I get a month before they charge for it |
21:38.55 | Marajin | so yeah to put it into dollars, 50ish for the handset then 1200 minutes/1000 SMS/unlimited data for 45 dollars a month |
21:39.01 | Marajin | I was pretty impressed |
21:39.06 | AstainHasPS3 | damn very nice |
21:41.08 | AstainHasPS3 | anyone here willing to build me a zImage based off the latest raph git with the smd_7500 stuff all turned on but the smd_diag off? |
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21:49.31 | BabelO | cr2, still around, do you still have previous dll"s |
21:54.08 | cr2 | BabelO: was it a .cab ? |
21:54.57 | BabelO | cr2,nooo lol, not already, just try to click on menu on start and you will see gps fix |
21:59.29 | sroecker | i am trying to build an angstrom initramfs for kaiser, has anyone experience in that? |
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22:21.27 | Untouchab1e | Good evening! |
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22:36.49 | Untouchab1e | How is everyone? |
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22:39.04 | AstainEEE | hello |
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22:46.12 | Marajin | AstainEEE: heh, tagging EEE on the end makes me think you're going 'eeeek!' first rather than using an asus eee |
22:47.03 | AstainEEE | lol |
22:47.12 | Untouchab1e | lol |
22:47.43 | AstainEEE | hey Untouchab1e how goes it? |
22:49.55 | BabelO_ | still here |
22:50.30 | cr2 | BabelO_: BlSOD |
22:50.56 | BabelO_ | what s that ? |
22:53.19 | AstainEEE | tmzt, you around? |
23:04.12 | exco | BlueInternetScreenOfDeath :-P |
23:07.04 | Untouchab1e | hi cr2 |
23:29.17 | AstainEEE | maejrep[w], hows it going? |