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00:17.23AstainHellbringtmzt hmm I wonder if it will be any different on 800 instead of 500
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00:26.35dcordesAstainHellbring: you've got the titan?
00:28.40AstainHellbringsorry not anymore
00:29.03dcordesok
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00:29.14dcordesdan-vogue-titan: hi
00:29.21dan-vogue-titanhowdy
00:29.24dcordesyou
00:29.29dcordesdo you have the htc titan?
00:29.34dan-vogue-titanyessir
00:29.45dcordescan you try a kernel build?
00:29.50dan-vogue-titanyessir
00:30.10dcordesgood soldier
00:30.15dan-vogue-titanpretty sure I have an sd all set up with haret here somewhere
00:30.29dan-vogue-titanyup, there it is
00:30.46dcordesmake sure you have a known working setup
00:30.56dan-vogue-titanyup, booted it before
00:32.21dcordesdan-vogue-titan: http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/builds/kernel/titan/zImage-htctitan-20091103-00 ok use this as zImage and check if everything works well
00:37.48dan-vogue-titanbuttons seem to be messed up
00:39.46dan-vogue-titanonly ok button on slide out keyboard and Q do anything
00:39.55dan-vogue-titanand they only call the settings menu
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00:40.41Sanjuklo
00:41.03Sanjukhas anyone here got android 1,0 booting on the touch hd
00:41.06dcordesdan-vogue-titan: everything else? touchscreen phone network ..
00:41.28dan-vogue-titanwell, touchscreen works
00:41.34dan-vogue-titanoff calibration as usual
00:41.48Sanjuki get alot of cannot find: /system/bin/...
00:41.51Sanjukany ideas?
00:42.18dan-vogue-titanoutgoing call worked
00:44.24dcordesdan-vogue-titan: so only the keymapping changed and everything else is ok?
00:44.41dan-vogue-titanseems to be I guess
00:44.50dan-vogue-titanas ok as it always was
00:45.36dan-vogue-titanhard to get around to test everything with calibration so far off, and no buttons
00:46.48dcordesthat might be a problem with the touchscreen. with the older versions it worked?
00:47.02dan-vogue-titannah, mine has always been off
00:47.56dcordesok thanks for testing
00:48.12dan-vogue-titannot a problem
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00:55.44itsall_b0000n<< titan for testing
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01:24.08power_usrOh I see you multiply something by 4
01:41.45tmzt_AstainHellbring: yeah, I'm wondering
01:42.01tmzt_if the ppp is more stable something might be different
01:42.31AstainHellbringtmzt_ i'll give it a shot
01:42.52AstainHellbringwhat os you use for ppp tests?
01:43.04tmzt_debian
01:43.14tmzt_but the fso console dcordes has would work
01:43.40AstainHellbringok wheres that one avail at?
01:43.53tmztnot sure
01:44.02tmztdcordes: where are your fso images?
01:53.02dcordestmzt: Ich mag: Electro Music, informationstechnische Systeme, Düsseldorfs Clubs, Naturwissenschaften, Comedy, Bewegung, Flugmodellsport, Party, Elektrotechnik, Sprachen, Wodka, Leute.
01:53.06dcordesIch bin schon seit ner weile Single und würde mich freuen dich kennen zu lernen :)
01:53.21dcordeswrong button
01:53.25dcordeshttp://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/builds/OE/
01:57.42AstainHellbringI just want the console image?
01:58.36dcordesAstainHellbring: the kaiser folder has serveral fso-console-image builds
01:58.54AstainHellbringI saw this one:  http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/builds/OE/htcraphael/console-image-htcraphael.tar.gz
01:59.06dcordesthey allow for testing data connection because they have ppp. others might have it as well though
01:59.25AstainHellbringahh ok I'll grab the kaiser one to be sure it has ppp
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02:27.56AstainHellbringquick question tmzt how do I use this fso image?
02:37.02tmztI think you can extract it to a card and use root= and rootdelay=
02:37.07tmztpartition
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02:47.16ttolsis there tool for get gpio pin map?? without user manual. :)
02:48.24ttolsanyone have rw6100 user manual?
03:03.15AstainHellbringso tmzt if I did root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 that should do it?
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04:00.28tmztAstainHellbring: yeah, that's what I mean
04:00.45tmztttols: it won't be in there, you need a tech manual
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04:02.12TheSargeCan anyone help me to add a global http proxy for android on my vogue?
04:05.38tmztyou can't from settings or missingpart?
04:07.41TheSargeWell I could if I was using an APN, but I am not cause its cdma, So I have to use Toga
04:08.33TheSargeI even found a way of adding a line in the com.android.providers.settings db... still doesn't work :(
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04:52.10maejrepthe angstrom image also has pppd though, right?
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05:25.34TheSargeThis sucks
05:25.45TheSargeGuess I am getting rid of the vogue
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06:34.32cr2maejrep: hi
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08:52.49Marajinmorning people
08:52.51Marajinhey captnoord
08:52.55Marajinsolved your card bug yet
09:00.07captnoordyup
09:00.21captnoordcombination of me fucking up
09:00.24captnoordwith me fucking up
09:00.34captnoordnow its all acting nice
09:01.03Marajincaptnoord: goodo :)
09:01.17captnoordformatted the card
09:01.25captnoordand downloaded a fresh enviroment
09:01.26captnoordworked
09:01.29captnoordupdated the kernel
09:01.30captnoordworked
09:01.31captnoordso
09:01.34Marajingood stuff
09:01.36captnoordthe fault was all mine
09:02.02captnoordnow I only want to be able to create partitions on my disk to use that to for linux
09:02.03captnoordbut
09:02.08captnoordI know crap about it
09:02.16captnoordnow setting up the GNU toolchain on windows
09:02.18captnoord:S
09:02.26captnoordthey have a windows version
09:02.26captnoordso
09:02.29captnoordits give it a try
09:02.39captnoordlets*
09:02.44Marajinheh
09:03.00Marajinuse a flash drive/cd bootable linux if you need an easy way to do stuff like that?
09:04.02captnoordlol it seems that the Diamond2 is more like the raphael
09:04.06captnoordhehe
09:04.17captnoordno big improvements
09:05.11Marajinyeah
09:05.16MarajinI get to order my new phone tomorrow
09:05.25Marajinstill wavering between the raph and the X1
09:06.18captnoordhmm the diamond2 has a "windows" button
09:06.20captnoordhow UNCOOL
09:06.21captnoord:P
09:06.29captnoord./ugly
09:07.09Marajinwell they ARE making a G2
09:08.40captnoordregarding the shown progress on things
09:08.54captnoordI don't think HTC is a company of big development
09:09.16captnoordonly little baby steps at the time
09:09.19Marajinbut the Diamond2 and TP2 are so similar to the diamond/raph anyway
09:09.33Marajinwell mate, there's not MUCH to go to beyond what things like the Raph already are
09:09.35captnoordyup
09:09.43captnoordhmmmmm
09:09.51Marajinthere's the 1Ghz snapdragon thing but they're putting that in the athena 2
09:10.13captnoordthey are developing a phone
09:10.16captnoordnot  a PC
09:10.24captnoordso your right
09:10.32Marajinyeah I thought the athena is a bit close to a UMPC really
09:10.37Marajin*athena 2
09:10.38captnoordand its development for the sake of development
09:11.04Marajinyeah, so I'm not really sure what'll come after the Raph generation
09:11.18Marajinit seems to be more a race to have bigger screens and such now
09:11.34captnoordI dono
09:11.53MarajinI mean we never REALLY adopted VGA but now VGA appeared quite widely for one generation and then promptly skipped and went WVGA
09:11.57captnoordthe diamond2 seems to have a better touch screen
09:12.27MarajinWindows Mobile/PocketPC devices were using QVGA for so long, long after other people had started using HVGA even..
09:12.46captnoordas it seems.....
09:13.02Marajinso it kinda went Kaiser (QVGA) -> Raphael (VGA) -> TP2/etc. (WVGA)
09:13.17captnoordthe facts still remain that my opinion on windows mobile is that its a to limited framework os for these types of phones
09:13.23Marajincause there's what.. the blackstone, X1, TP2, Diamond 2, et al are all WVGA yeah?
09:13.37captnoordhehe
09:13.49Marajinwell we'll see what comes of W7, I know a guy who is working on W7 but he can't tell me much cause of the NDA
09:14.46captnoordhmmm the thing I would like is to have a tool that simplifies our search for constants.... regarding the linux development
09:14.56captnoordI mean.... the key research is mapping the shared memory
09:15.01captnoordand there is rpc
09:15.16captnoordwhich is as far as I read about it more of a hardware routing system
09:15.35captnoordso.... a decompyler would be interesting
09:15.36captnoordbut
09:15.41captnoordI don't have the time
09:16.01Marajinyeah :p
09:16.29captnoordI made for some other projects a ASM walker
09:16.33captnoordand auto patchers
09:16.36captnoordstuff like that
09:16.39captnoordso I know this shit
09:16.47captnoordI really really want to finish this school
09:16.54captnoordso I can do these fun things
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09:17.22Marajinhow long have you got left to run?
09:17.49captnoordI think if I keep going at this slow pace I think a year
09:17.49captnoordbut
09:17.58captnoord6 months of study
09:18.14Marajinmeh it's not that long really
09:18.54captnoordI have steep hills to climb
09:18.55captnoordso
09:19.00captnoordi'll be going hehe
09:19.01captnoord:P
09:19.21Marajinyou'll get there I'm sure
09:19.22captnoordhmmm
09:19.32captnoordthe arm toolchain is finished
09:19.35captnoordlets give it a try
09:19.57Marajinheh :p
09:20.01Marajingood luck
09:20.30captnoordhehe
09:20.50captnoordI will also try to build it ( under my ubuntu ) with a newer version of the toolchain
09:23.15captnoordMarajin: you know of a haret tutorial?
09:24.05MarajinNope, can't stay I do
09:24.31captnoordbecause while reading the wiki research page
09:24.44captnoordI am beginning to understand
09:24.49captnoordthe touchscreen section
09:24.50captnoordand stuff
09:24.52captnoordis very usefull
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12:37.27captnoordpom pie dom
12:37.31captnoordeasy crap antena
12:37.32captnoordhttp://deja.jails.nl/Data/Shared/Pictures/school/marcony%20antena%20-%20part%201%20-%20435%20MHz.jpg
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13:02.29AstainHellbringmorning
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14:04.50captnoordhmmm
14:05.01captnoordmaybe I have a disasmble job
14:05.02captnoordhehe
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14:27.07captnoordlol
14:27.22captnoordI knew my spectrum analysor had a FM demodulator
14:27.34captnoordbut that I could use it as a radio reciever I didn't knew
14:27.34captnoordhehe
14:28.31Pure4Real:o
14:28.32Pure4Realhaha
14:28.33Pure4Realnice
14:29.09captnoordhttp://deja.jails.nl/Data/Shared/Pictures/school/marcony%20antena%20-%20part%201%20-%20435%20MHz.jpg
14:29.13captnoordguess which one I made
14:29.14captnoord:P
14:29.35captnoordand still the ground plane isn't big anough
14:29.44captnoordit should be double the size
14:29.45captnoordor
14:29.47captnoord4x
14:29.55captnoordbut its already 16 cm
14:30.04captnoordthen I would get a plane of about hmmmmmmm
14:30.07captnoord64cm
14:30.08captnoordlol
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14:33.10captnoordnow it would get interesting to messure the spec's of the antena
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18:37.44tsdogskiozen: hi, what's the Heading in the GPS?
18:37.47tsdogsmeaning :)
18:38.17kiozendirection
18:38.35kiozenif you go south heading is T 180°
18:38.52tsdogsho, yeah
18:38.58kiozenT stands for true
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18:39.03kiozentrue north
18:39.38kiozentsdogs: gps lingo, not my idea :)
18:39.58tsdogsI'd have used "Direction" :)
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18:42.35kiozentsdogs: that's what german translation did
18:42.50tsdogsme too :)
18:43.09kiozenspeed would be velocity in gps lingo
18:43.24kiozenbut I refused to use it on the gui
18:46.01tsdogslol
18:46.28tsdogsitalian is Velocità :)
18:50.34tsdogskiozen: square pixels?
18:50.48tsdogsit's for reference, but ...
18:51.53kiozenhm...
18:52.20kiozenit's about the two corner points of a rect
18:52.39tsdogstop/left, bottom/right ?
18:52.43kiozenyes
18:52.47tsdogshmm, ok
18:52.52kiozencr2 came up with that word
18:52.59kiozenand the feature
18:53.24tsdogslol
18:53.41tsdogsok, now I think I only have the Overzoom :)
18:54.06tsdogshmm, no I miss all the road types
18:55.16kiozengerman translation choose to leave overzoom as is
18:56.03kiozenthe french say surzoom :)
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18:58.49tsdogshmm, I'll try finding a better wording, I know there is one :), only can't think of it
19:01.04tsdogskiozen: Minor deph contour ? would that be depth?
19:02.10kiozendifferent lines (thickness) for depth lines in the sea or  lakes
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19:04.08tsdogsho ok
19:10.05tsdogswhat's the "However ..." for?
19:10.26tsdogsnever mind, there's the explanation right after that :)
19:18.12tsdogsok only overzoom missing, then I'll send it to you. So your wife can review it :)
19:18.15tsdogsbbl
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19:41.12sroeckerhi
19:41.44sroeckerdo you know how to get a serial console over usb?
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20:02.28no2chemhey um, anyone here familiar with microP
20:02.40no2chemspecficically KLT1: at 0xCC?
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21:09.32lupine_no2chem, maejrep is really the master of that particular thing
21:09.47lupine_'though there's now a linux driver for it that probably tells you everything you need to know
21:10.16lupine_is sad, as he has lost his RAPH100
21:10.35lupine_it went to Glasgow on the train, whilst I got off and went to Whitby instad
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21:23.23no2chem[14:22] <no2chem> sigh, why is this i2c driver not working; im pretty sure i got the struct right from the microp and oem_misc dlls -
21:23.23no2chem[14:22] <no2chem> LDRNEB  R3, [R4]
21:23.23no2chem[14:22] <no2chem> LDRNE   R1, [R5]
21:23.23no2chem[14:22] <no2chem> LDRNE   R0, =aWritemultibyte
21:23.23no2chem[14:22] <no2chem> MOVNE   R2, R7
21:23.25no2chem[14:22] <no2chem> BLNE    NKDbgPrintfW
21:23.29no2chemuh
21:23.31no2chemman
21:23.34no2chemi keep pasting in to the wrong channel
21:23.36no2chemanyway
21:23.46no2chemlupine.. yeah ive looked at the driver
21:24.05no2chemi just wonder if he figured out this led table stuff
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21:33.48lupine_I'm assuming 'tis not on the wiki?
21:36.42no2chemits not very detailed
21:36.49no2chemlike, can i program a new led class? =/
21:37.12no2chemit just says
21:37.13no2chemcc,41,3c,x -> LED TBL (hardcoded) ; wr mul
21:39.47lupine_ah, AFAIK you can't
21:40.11lupine_the different LED patterns are coded into the microcontroller
21:44.40cr2imho, you can, but then you need to rewrite and reflash the atmel firmware :)
21:45.20lupine_heh, and work out its links with the LED hardware too ;)
21:45.33lupine_I guess that wouldn't be overly hard, but even so
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21:48.07no2chematmel firmware?
21:48.14no2chemseems like that wouldn't be so bad then
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22:07.20lupine_orders a non-htc phone
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