| 00:04.49 | mordy_ | what kind of target should i use? arm? armel? |
| 00:06.55 | dcordes | [2]BabelO: are you there? |
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| 00:11.21 | mordy_ | are the x11/gpe images broken? i can't see to make them into an initrd |
| 00:11.27 | mordy_ | (or at least they won't run on qemu) |
| 00:11.35 | cr2 | BabelO: [3]BabelO :) |
| 00:11.44 | mordy_ | lol |
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| 00:51.10 | maejrep | hmm, smd1 still reports ENODEV |
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| 01:22.21 | maejrep | hmm, looks like "AT+CFUN=0" turns the phone off :x |
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| 02:06.03 | AstainHasPS3 | hmm interesting maejrep |
| 02:06.13 | maejrep | AT$QCMIPGETP=1 |
| 02:06.27 | maejrep | gets cdma profile info, so you don't have to pass the info on the boot cmdline ;o |
| 02:06.32 | AstainHasPS3 | nice |
| 02:07.11 | maejrep | AT$QCMIPNAI?^Mmadcoder@sprintpcs.com,1 |
| 02:08.59 | AstainHasPS3 | cool |
| 02:10.35 | maejrep | root@htcraphael:~# echo -e -n "AT+CFUN=0\r" > /dev/smd0 && exit |
| 02:10.35 | maejrep | Connection to 192.168.0.206 closed. |
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| 02:21.21 | maejrep | AstainHasPS3: want to test AT+CFUN=0 on raph100? ;x |
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| 02:59.52 | Marajin | morning |
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| 04:23.38 | hector__ | hi? |
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| 05:10.15 | maejrep | took a cue from vogue-hw, and setup some sysfs class exports |
| 05:10.19 | maejrep | should be useful for debugging |
| 05:10.34 | maejrep | and: |
| 05:10.35 | maejrep | root@htcraphael:~# echo 1 > /sys/class/htc_hw/htc_hw_vibrate |
| 05:10.35 | maejrep | root@htcraphael:~# echo 0 > /sys/class/htc_hw/htc_hw_vibrate |
| 05:10.37 | maejrep | :p |
| 05:11.33 | maejrep | the vibrate function is registered by the board, so it can work with other devices as well (ie, polaris appears to have its own, non-pcom method for setting vibrate) |
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| 07:44.10 | Untouchab1e | Hi all |
| 07:45.53 | maejrep | Untouchab1e: did you write the android 1.0 initrd you use in your builds? |
| 07:49.48 | Untouchab1e | no.. I did not :) |
| 07:49.51 | Untouchab1e | how so? |
| 07:54.11 | Untouchab1e | Ive established a testing group consisitng of one user per device (RAPH/DIAM100/500/800, etc9 |
| 07:54.23 | Untouchab1e | so let me know, and il send out new stuff |
| 07:54.26 | Untouchab1e | consisting* |
| 07:55.20 | Untouchab1e | brb |
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| 09:13.14 | TheiPirate | how difficult would it be to make an app that logs GPS coords and saves them to excel? or sends them to a server? |
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| 09:31.00 | TheiPirate | nm i seem to have answered my question |
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| 11:06.13 | captnoord | good morning all |
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| 11:28.31 | dgmdan | morning |
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| 12:53.26 | Marajin | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:11.23 | dgmdan | hey |
| 13:12.03 | Marajin | how's it going? |
| 13:12.31 | dgmdan | eh pretty good, great weather today |
| 13:12.48 | Marajin | heh, not here it's not, too much wind is making it chilly |
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| 14:45.06 | Marajin | heh.. |
| 14:45.09 | Marajin | that was silly |
| 14:47.14 | Marajin | my carrier was willing to set my upgrade deal early but can't sell me the raphael cause you have to get that from the store or online |
| 14:47.17 | Marajin | heh |
| 14:47.26 | Marajin | they can only do the diamond over the phone |
| 14:48.13 | dcordes_ | asshats |
| 14:48.25 | dcordes_ | who wants diamond |
| 14:49.27 | dcordes_ | maejrep: I make the blackstone default=n |
| 14:51.20 | Marajin | hey dcordes_ , the x1... they get android on it at all? |
| 14:51.45 | dcordes_ | it works well with the raphael kernel |
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| 14:53.46 | Marajin | nice |
| 14:53.53 | Marajin | I might get one of them then |
| 14:53.56 | dcordes_ | but needs keypad driver updating |
| 14:54.01 | dcordes_ | and other things |
| 14:54.11 | Marajin | d'ya think the X1 or the raphael is a better idea? |
| 14:55.36 | dcordes_ | raphael |
| 14:55.47 | dcordes_ | x1 looks better tho |
| 14:56.47 | Marajin | why is the raphael better? (apart from having a flush screen and accelerometer) ? |
| 14:57.36 | dcordes_ | it's robust |
| 14:57.51 | dcordes_ | and what you said |
| 14:58.22 | dcordes_ | seems like x1 housing designer used too much coke or so |
| 14:58.24 | Marajin | how is it more robust than the X1? the build quality on the X1 is meant to be amazing and it has all the other features than the raph has |
| 14:58.34 | dcordes_ | it's nice but totally sucks |
| 14:59.51 | Marajin | you're not being very clear about why :P |
| 15:04.26 | dcordes_ | well if you keep it in your drawer at home x1 is good |
| 15:04.32 | dcordes_ | but if you plan using it regularly not |
| 15:04.37 | dcordes_ | because the entire material sucks |
| 15:04.55 | Marajin | it's brushed aluminimum |
| 15:04.57 | Marajin | so is the kaiser |
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| 15:08.00 | dcordes_ | lol 1% of the surface is |
| 15:08.19 | dcordes_ | the kaiser aluminum (display framing) has not one scratch |
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| 15:08.32 | dcordes_ | x1 after few weeks of usage look like * |
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| 15:10.00 | AstainHasPS3 | morning |
| 15:10.57 | Marajin | dcordes_: maybe you're too rough? |
| 15:11.00 | Marajin | morning AstainHasPS3 |
| 15:11.06 | Marajin | dcordes_: plus I can get a discount on the x1 |
| 15:11.37 | AstainHasPS3 | x1 will garenteed get cracks on you Marajin |
| 15:11.51 | Marajin | cracks? |
| 15:12.01 | AstainHasPS3 | yep casing cracks |
| 15:12.01 | Marajin | how do you crack a metal phone? |
| 15:12.28 | Marajin | meh annoying, I can't get discounts on the raphael though |
| 15:12.34 | dcordes_ | Marajin: I was more sensitive with x1 in the few weeks as with kaiser +1 year |
| 15:12.36 | AstainHasPS3 | every person I've seen review it said that after a few months they were getting cracks on it |
| 15:12.45 | Marajin | hmm |
| 15:12.46 | Marajin | pity |
| 15:12.59 | dcordes_ | go with the raphael is my advise g2g bye |
| 15:13.10 | Marajin | meh but that'll cost me more money |
| 15:13.16 | Marajin | but I guess fair enough |
| 15:14.31 | Marajin | I ended up chatting for quite a while with one of the women on the phone heh |
| 15:14.46 | Marajin | I was telling her about the laggy camera/graphics issues on the kaiser and stuff |
| 15:14.57 | Marajin | I always feel like a geek when I start talking such things to a woman |
| 15:16.06 | AstainHasPS3 | lol |
| 15:16.46 | Marajin | She didn't seem to mind though, maybe just good at dealing with people though I guess |
| 15:17.03 | Marajin | was telling me how to get discounts actually |
| 15:17.24 | AstainHasPS3 | nice |
| 15:17.45 | Marajin | but they can only deal on phones that you order via a phonecall |
| 15:18.05 | Marajin | online gives you a specific rate and if you go to the highstreet store they can't give you deals at all |
| 15:18.12 | Marajin | unless it's like, free headset or something |
| 15:19.30 | AstainHasPS3 | lame |
| 15:26.46 | Marajin | so I'd have to fork up 50 GBP for a raphael |
| 15:28.22 | AstainHasPS3 | shit thats it? |
| 15:28.36 | Marajin | well yeah |
| 15:28.55 | Marajin | I could probably get an X1 for free |
| 15:29.11 | AstainHasPS3 | sprint here in US charges 200 USD after MIR for a Touch Pro with a 2 year agreement |
| 15:29.17 | Marajin | rofl |
| 15:29.27 | Marajin | what monthly payment? |
| 15:29.40 | AstainHasPS3 | mine ends up about 40/line |
| 15:29.46 | AstainHasPS3 | and 5 lines so totals 200 |
| 15:29.59 | Marajin | oh you have that family deal thing? |
| 15:30.32 | Marajin | what would a single line cost and what are the contract details for it? |
| 15:30.33 | AstainHasPS3 | yah |
| 15:30.46 | AstainHasPS3 | single line varies based on minutes |
| 15:30.52 | AstainHasPS3 | and usage stuffs |
| 15:31.04 | AstainHasPS3 | if you want unlimited data/minutes its like 99/mo |
| 15:31.05 | Marajin | I pay about 60/month (in dollars) but I'd get the Raph for 75 USD and I'd get.. er 1200 minutes/1000 SMS/unlimited Data |
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| 15:31.53 | Marajin | same deal free handset (probably) for the X1 |
| 15:32.07 | Marajin | if I got any lower end HTC I'd automatically get a free handset on that deal |
| 15:33.08 | Marajin | I could probably get a lower monthly rate instead of a free handset too |
| 15:33.14 | Marajin | I'll phone 'em on the 12th and find out |
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| 15:38.27 | Marajin | Hmm I've been reading about the X1 cracks, it seems to be an issue with the silver one for a particular production time |
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| 15:51.34 | captnoord | hmm the bootloader seems to contain a device emulator |
| 15:51.35 | captnoord | :S |
| 15:51.51 | AstainHasPS3 | huh captnoord? |
| 15:52.01 | captnoord | i'm messing with my rom dump |
| 15:52.09 | captnoord | and doing "magical" stuff with it |
| 15:52.15 | captnoord | in short |
| 15:52.22 | captnoord | I made winhex dump all the dll |
| 15:52.23 | captnoord | s |
| 15:52.25 | captnoord | and exe |
| 15:52.27 | captnoord | from rom0 |
| 15:52.38 | captnoord | and I got text stuff related to device emulator stuff |
| 15:52.47 | captnoord | also the info regarding the debug stuff was pressent |
| 15:52.58 | captnoord | and now i'm feeding it to IDA |
| 15:53.24 | captnoord | I kinda would like to get some sort of cross reference with the current code |
| 15:53.29 | captnoord | but I fail for the moment |
| 15:53.49 | captnoord | http://rumsey.org/xgal.html |
| 15:53.53 | captnoord | one of the urls |
| 15:54.00 | captnoord | regarding a "explotion" |
| 15:54.01 | captnoord | :P |
| 15:54.05 | captnoord | I think its a game |
| 15:54.06 | captnoord | P |
| 15:54.08 | captnoord | hopeps |
| 15:54.33 | captnoord | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:56.35 | captnoord | I think |
| 15:56.52 | captnoord | i've only gathered what winhex could gather |
| 15:56.57 | captnoord | and I don't think it is what I want |
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| 15:57.34 | captnoord | Windows CE Kernel for ARM Thumb Enabled Built on Jun 25 2008 at 15:07:18 |
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| 19:01.29 | Untouchab1e | Good evening! |
| 19:02.49 | mordy_ | good morning |
| 19:02.57 | mordy_ | err.. afternoon |
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| 19:05.54 | AstainHasPS3 | evening Untouchab1e! |
| 19:06.09 | Untouchab1e | how is everyone? |
| 19:06.21 | AstainHasPS3 | good |
| 19:06.32 | AstainHasPS3 | chilling at work |
| 19:07.51 | mordy_ | i'm trying to become familiarized with bitbake |
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| 20:16.51 | marek__ | hi |
| 20:17.00 | marek__ | I have a SGH-I780 Samsung Pocket PC |
| 20:23.41 | marek__ | I have managed to boot linux via haret on this device, and the framebuffer seams to work. This was not thanks to my work but to the work found here http://netbsd.pl/~lama/i780/. The guy apparently got help from you guys here. I wanted to explore my pocketpc a little further and find out how the pxa interacts with the GSM chip. Therefore I will use Haret and try to watch IRQs /memory while receiving/placing calls. Is my approach |
| 20:23.41 | marek__ | correct? And the only information regarding the PXA-310 is this here http://www.marvell.com/products/cellular/application/pxa310.jsp. Could you give me some pointers where to start? |
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| 21:02.22 | wippeout | hello |
| 21:04.06 | wippeout | i got a zImage with kernel 2.6.27 |
| 21:04.35 | wippeout | i installed andtrom rootfs |
| 21:04.40 | wippeout | i got error |
| 21:06.03 | captnoord | lol |
| 21:06.05 | wippeout | could not open /lib/modules/2.6.27-00248-ga7bbc84 no such file or directory |
| 21:06.32 | wippeout | captnoord: lol ?. |
| 21:06.42 | captnoord | yo got error |
| 21:06.46 | captnoord | you( |
| 21:06.47 | captnoord | * |
| 21:06.55 | wippeout | ? |
| 21:07.02 | captnoord | its software in development what do you expect |
| 21:07.03 | AstainHasPS3 | wippeout rebuild your kernel |
| 21:07.22 | wippeout | dcornes gave me these files yesterday |
| 21:07.30 | wippeout | i never built kernel :) |
| 21:08.00 | captnoord | rebuild your kernel |
| 21:11.36 | wippeout | ok |
| 21:11.40 | wippeout | thanks |
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| 21:36.22 | wippeout | excuse me |
| 21:36.57 | wippeout | it seems that the angstrom rootfs doesn"t contain lib/modules for the kernel 2.6.27 |
| 21:37.48 | AstainHasPS3 | yes hence the rebuild kernel |
| 21:37.51 | AstainHasPS3 | don't use modules |
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| 21:40.16 | wippeout | in fact |
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| 21:40.50 | wippeout | the xda wiki present a way to build a kernel and get a initrd angstrom |
| 21:41.16 | wippeout | initrd vs rootfs |
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| 22:04.56 | Gentoon | Hello |
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| 22:18.39 | marex | damn ... how come OSSR doesnt have a bit asserted even though timer match happened (on pxa270 C0) |
| 22:19.02 | marex | BabelO, Kevin2 ... hi, any idea on this ? ^ |
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| 22:24.25 | marex | BabelO, ^ ;) |
| 22:25.36 | BabelO | marex, :) |
| 22:26.05 | BabelO | marex, still your clock issue ? |
| 22:27.24 | Gentoon | Any vogue users? |
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| 22:46.47 | BabelO | ola cworth |
| 22:46.52 | BabelO | oups |
| 22:47.01 | BabelO | cr2, hi |
| 22:47.23 | BabelO | cr2, do you have an opensource gps software ? |
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| 22:47.30 | cr2 | hi BabelO |
| 22:47.37 | cr2 | opensource gps ? |
| 22:47.49 | BabelO | no only software part |
| 22:47.57 | BabelO | i want the wince serial part |
| 22:48.27 | cr2 | hmm. only roadmap comes into my mind |
| 22:48.40 | cr2 | other osm-related programs maybe |
| 22:48.45 | marex | cr2, hi ;) |
| 22:48.50 | cr2 | navipowm, navit |
| 22:48.52 | marex | cr2, you're just the right person I need |
| 22:49.05 | cr2 | marex: n560 ? |
| 22:49.11 | marex | BabelO, yes |
| 22:49.31 | marex | cr2, well ... that too - how come OSSR doesnt have a bit asserted even though os timer match happened (on pxa270 C0) |
| 22:49.56 | marex | cr2, so you see it's related to n560 |
| 22:50.08 | cr2 | marex: no idea. pxa had many small bugs, so it does not surprise me. |
| 22:50.16 | power_usr | http://www.basic4ppc.com/gps4ppc.html |
| 22:50.31 | marex | cr2, well the CPU doesnt seem to throw ANY interrupts at all |
| 22:50.32 | cr2 | BabelO: check osm wiki |
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| 22:51.45 | cr2 | BabelO: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WinPDA |
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| 22:55.12 | cr2 | lol |
| 22:55.12 | cr2 | Changing the CommPort and BaudRate settings requires restarting the application. |
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| 22:58.11 | BabelO | power_usr, thanks, but .NET or other thing nooo, only C++ code i need |
| 22:58.18 | BabelO | hm i speak like yoda this evening |
| 22:58.24 | BabelO | cr2, ok i look |
| 23:02.59 | cr2 | BabelO: found high quality public domain software that endorces wince there 8) |
| 23:03.14 | BabelO | yes i see |
| 23:03.16 | cr2 | BabelO: "After building it, it will run fairly responsively on a 256 MB machine." |
| 23:03.19 | BabelO | i just want the comport part |
| 23:03.39 | BabelO | i ve done it and want o integrate it in Qserialport |
| 23:03.43 | BabelO | but ... |
| 23:03.54 | BabelO | i think i ve to ask lpotter |
| 23:06.30 | cr2 | BabelO: do you enumerate the serial ports ? |
| 23:06.30 | BabelO | cr2, no |
| 23:06.30 | BabelO | cr2, $PSRFTXTVersion GSW3.2.1PAT_3.1.00.12-SDK001P1.00c *3F |
| 23:06.31 | cr2 | imho, that's what a generic $wince_luser expects |
| 23:07.07 | cr2 | BabelO: do you have this firmware ? |
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| 23:07.52 | cr2 | BabelO: for athena i have an update with the raw firmware inside. i've disassembled it once, and know some registers, also by cross-comparison with other wosurces. |
| 23:08.16 | cr2 | but i've given up, because of more interesting and promising projects. |
| 23:09.19 | BabelO | cr2, yes it is the artemis firmware displayed after connection on wince |
| 23:09.25 | cr2 | looks like a typical sirf3 message |
| 23:09.48 | BabelO | typical maybe, but can't disable static nav |
| 23:11.14 | cr2 | it's the same as kiozen complains about |
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| 23:13.00 | BabelO | cr2,i dids not check more on forum to see if someone success |
| 23:13.45 | BabelO | but i have tried the sirf binary software, and it does not want to work in sirf mode |
| 23:15.11 | cr2 | at 57600 ? |
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| 23:16.56 | Kevin2 | marex: Hi |
| 23:18.25 | BabelO | cr2, yes |
| 23:18.28 | BabelO | hi Kevin2 |
| 23:18.34 | Kevin2 | marex: Not sure what you're seeing. Is it events not being caught by wirq but are being caught by watch? |
| 23:18.39 | Kevin2 | Hi BabelO. |
| 23:18.51 | marex | Kevin2, nah, I dont get any interrupts |
| 23:19.11 | marex | and when I poll the OSSR even if the match happens, I dont see the interrupt bit set |
| 23:19.52 | Kevin2 | I'm not sure what you mean by "I dont get any interrupts". |
| 23:20.08 | marex | Kevin2, well the interrupt handler doesnt get called at all ;) |
| 23:20.24 | Kevin2 | Which interrupt handler? How do you know it's not being called? |
| 23:20.42 | marex | I can print something to the screen if it does get called |
| 23:20.49 | marex | and it works in qemu ; |
| 23:21.31 | Kevin2 | I don't understand. |
| 23:21.55 | Kevin2 | Did you patch haret in some way? |
| 23:22.08 | marex | Kevin2, I dont use haret ... Im already in the kernel |
| 23:22.27 | marex | (if I explain what kernel, GPL-guy cr2 is gonna eat me alive) |
| 23:22.44 | Kevin2 | Ahh - sorry, thought you were talking about haret. So, your kernel isn't getting irqs. Sounds like something is masked. |
| 23:22.57 | marex | actually I can already feel his disgusted look |
| 23:24.25 | marex | Kevin2, well ... I masked all the interrupts in the bootloader |
| 23:24.35 | marex | I expected the kernel to unmask them ... oh well |
| 23:24.54 | marex | (no, Im not hacking on any proprietary kernel, dont worry) |
| 23:26.30 | Kevin2 | Well, I'm not sure which kernel you're working on so I couldn't say if it unmasks it or not. In general, there is a processor wide irq mask, an irq controller mask, and then each device can be masked. You need to make sure all of them are setup correctly. |
| 23:27.30 | marex | Kevin2, openbsd |
| 23:28.55 | Kevin2 | marex: I don't know much about openbsd. :-) |
| 23:29.14 | cr2 | marex: lol. i don't mind when other people work as wageless slaves for the "industry" ;) |
| 23:29.24 | Kevin2 | Hi cr2. |
| 23:29.29 | cr2 | hi Kevin2 |
| 23:29.48 | cr2 | Kevin2: have you laready picked a raphael ? :) |
| 23:30.00 | marex | cr2, why slaves ? |
| 23:30.32 | cr2 | marex: i guess you know the bsd vs gpl very well. |
| 23:31.05 | cr2 | marex: i never take part in the non-gpl projects as a matter of principle. |
| 23:31.29 | Kevin2 | cr2: Nope - is that better than the "vogue"? I was looking at the vogue on ebay, but I'm a bit hesitant. |
| 23:32.31 | cr2 | Kevin2: vogue is a more simple device. and the 7500 cpu is replaced by the 7500A now. |
| 23:32.50 | marex | cr2, you mean how BSD license is more "free" and stuff ? |
| 23:32.55 | cr2 | Kevin2: raphael uses 7500A. it also has a keyboard. |
| 23:33.24 | cr2 | marex: yes. |
| 23:33.47 | marex | cr2, so ? |
| 23:33.54 | cr2 | Kevin2: tv out and fm radio |
| 23:34.19 | Kevin2 | Hrmm. IIRC, 7500A was better supported too, right? After a couple of years using Apache, I'm not so impressed with the keyboard. It's nice to have on occassion, but it makes the phone bulky. |
| 23:34.24 | cr2 | marex: this channel is htc-linux, not #bsd.vs.gpl |
| 23:34.28 | Kevin2 | fm radio sounds cool. |
| 23:34.46 | marex | cr2, awww calm down ;-) |
| 23:34.48 | cr2 | Kevin2: and acceleromenter. |
| 23:36.21 | cr2 | Kevin2: and vga lcd |
| 23:36.46 | Kevin2 | Wow, so it's a lot nicer than vogue then. |
| 23:37.36 | cr2 | Kevin2: and the google code is actually for the 7x00A cpu. a good support for vogue is because dzo is a very good hacker. |
| 23:38.13 | marex | Kevin2, well now you see what I meant when I said cr2 would eat me alive |
| 23:39.18 | Kevin2 | cr2: Cool - I'll keep an eye out on ebay. :-) |
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